WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:04.000 Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:09.199 Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fIF day. 3 00:00:10.359 --> 00:00:12.560 Hey, welcome back to I'm the ball around Fox Sports 4 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:15.839 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today's Blake Eager. 5 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.079 I love the discussion. I know it's not about sports, 6 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:21.320 but let me see if I can get some callers 7 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.120 who have been around for a while and maybe I've 8 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:26.879 had some experiences with some of the sports events that 9 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:32.960 we've had here forever. The old Toros, the sidewinders, the 10 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.119 pro volleyball people from back in the day, right, the 11 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:40.000 pro softball people that was at High Corbitt Right. I 12 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.000 don't know it's before my time, but you know the 13 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:46.600 Suaro's now, there's a lot of things on this plate 14 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.640 that could be you know, talked about. You know, the 15 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:53.759 sugar skulls, those roadrunners, all these your group now with 16 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:58.119 the WBC so much potential. So it's not a it's 17 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:00.640 not a hey, I got to get mind, Thane. This 18 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:03.759 is everybody's in the same plate, that's the same boat. 19 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.599 That's some one thing that I think Tucson does better 20 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:10.359 than almost anywhere else to the most degree. When you're 21 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:14.640 talking about this is it's they're pretty everybody's pretty selfless, right, Yeah. 22 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.640 I mean Bob Bob Hoffman with the Roadrunners literally will 23 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:19.519 bend over backwards, give you a shirt off, and be like, 24 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:21.280 don't worry about it, we'll figure it out. I mean, 25 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.400 we were going through it with the WBC kickoff event 26 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:24.879 and he's just like, I don't know what your budget is. 27 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:26.599 But this is what we'll do. We'll do this for you, 28 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:28.439 and he takes care of you, right, So let me 29 00:01:28.760 --> 00:01:31.319 I'll throw maybe a loophole in this whole thing. Don't 30 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:34.599 you think let's say, twelve twelve entities here at the table, 31 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:39.040 do you think that they're so busy worrying about themselves, Yeah, 32 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:44.560 that they'll help solve or help pull the rope together. 33 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:45.640 Yeah, you actually. 34 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.599 I mean that's why you need you need community leaders 35 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:51.680 at the table, and then you need a separate entity altogether. 36 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:53.920 That says, Okay, I'm going to compile all this data 37 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.079 and all this information you just threw out there and 38 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:58.840 let me get back to you with maybe where you're doing. 39 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:02.159 Things not the best way right or could do better? Right? 40 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:04.959 Yeah, that makes sense. That makes total sense because you're, 41 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.000 like you said, the what's the first order of business, 42 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:08.759 the goods and the bad souff. 43 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.560 Yeah, absolutely, I mean think about it. We've had I 44 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:15.159 mean we've had some Look at Pima Community Colleges last year, 45 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:16.199 how great did their outside? 46 00:02:16.759 --> 00:02:19.879 In fact, I was with someone from Pima yesterday saying 47 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:20.919 what a great, great. 48 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:21.240 Year it was. 49 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.199 I talked to Ken hackmy all last night. You know, 50 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:27.000 it's just it's blown away. How do we get them, 51 00:02:27.159 --> 00:02:28.439 how do we get people more involved? 52 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:30.759 Let me tell you something. That's a group that wants 53 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.000 to be at the table. Yeah, because they've always been 54 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.280 not always most up until the last few years, they've 55 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.240 been kind of like the step child because they're under 56 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.039 the shadow of Arizona. But the success hasn't been like 57 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:43.599 it is now. 58 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:44.120 Yeah. 59 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:46.120 I mean it's one of the premier junior colleges in 60 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:46.639 the country. 61 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:49.439 Yeah, I mean you're looking across the board. I can't 62 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:52.159 name a team that did poorly over there. It's just 63 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.439 it's wild. So yeah, I think it's a perfect time 64 00:02:55.599 --> 00:02:58.199 to kind of to do that, to start it and 65 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.280 see where it goes. And I'll be brutally honest with you, Steve, 66 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.240 I'll do some research on it, but I don't really 67 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:04.719 want to go in there saying this is how we 68 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:05.960 have to do it. You really want to just go 69 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.199 in there asking questions and learning and saying, Okay, maybe 70 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:09.719 we try this. 71 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:11.439 You know who else is doing this? 72 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:12.479 Has it worked? 73 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:12.800 Yeah? 74 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.680 I mean it's like you know, I John Schmieder is 75 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:18.240 a guy in Phoenix that runs Huddle Up. He used 76 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.360 to run the Tulsa Sports Commission. He's a Tucson guy. 77 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.159 Went to Sabino, but I call him, you know, not 78 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.759 all the time, but a lot, just to talk to 79 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:26.520 him and pick his brain about a sports commission, what 80 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.639 that would look like, what could we do better? I mean, 81 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.599 he's so well connected. It's asking those people want to 82 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.240 be part of this community. Sarah de with Garman, who 83 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.360 was part of the Kansas City Sports Commission. She's like, 84 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.280 you have no idea what you guys have in Tucson. 85 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.919 You literally have this, this diamond in the rough that 86 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.960 could compete against everybody because the facilities, you have, the weather, 87 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:48.120 you have all the location, and you just need somebody 88 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:50.159 that's kind of leading the job. 89 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:54.199 How did it get to this point? What do you mean, Well, 90 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:56.719 hasn't happened yet, so how did it get here. 91 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:00.680 Yeah, I don't know you for another show. No, the 92 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:03.560 only thing you know, I don't know. I don't know that. 93 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:05.120 I think that's a deeper dive conversation. 94 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.919 It is that we could offend some people just and yeah, 95 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.719 and I so say that could offend some people and 96 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:11.199 be wrong. 97 00:04:11.599 --> 00:04:14.319 Yeah, I will say this. I think there's a there's 98 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.360 somewhat of a perfect storm right now. You have some 99 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.839 really really great people that are all trying to do 100 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.680 the same thing or that are having these open conversations. 101 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.120 I mean the counties, I mean Jen Lesher and Carmine 102 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:28.160 Damonas are phenomenal with all these things bringing new opportunities. 103 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.839 You have Sarah Horvat's a Kino sports complex and her 104 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:34.199 whole team and I said it today and I'm being honest, 105 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.959 they literally are the gold stander for stadium districts. 106 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:38.639 It's just it's unbelievable. 107 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:40.639 And then you have other people in the surrounding communities 108 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.240 that are all like, okay, let's do it, Yeah, let's 109 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:43.839 figure it out. 110 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:44.160 You know. 111 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:46.160 I mean, you've got so many great partners in our 112 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:48.480 area that are that want to be at that table. 113 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:51.920 Yeah, no, no, okay, we'll probably talk about this more 114 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:54.199 as all he comes in and because you know he's 115 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:58.360 full of ideas and good ideas, you know, sometimes out 116 00:04:58.360 --> 00:04:59.839 of the box. It doesn't make sense that you look 117 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:01.720 at against his you know what, that's a pretty good 118 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:03.160 idea and he wanted to bring I. 119 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:04.360 Don't was that the Raiders? 120 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.800 Oh yeah, oakand Raiders like a yeah, they or. 121 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:10.360 Something I can't remember. It's not crazy. 122 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.800 No, No, you're thinking, damn, how come I couldn't I 123 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:13.160 think of that? 124 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:14.839 Yeah, I couldn't have thought of that. Yeah, and he 125 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:17.480 I mean with all E you're getting, you're getting all E. 126 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.959 It's not this, it's not it's not. What you see 127 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.000 is what you get. And that's why he's so successful, 128 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.920 right can I So last week, I know I wasn't 129 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.519 able to make it in, but you did have my 130 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:30.959 buddy Robbie mohan On, right, Yeah he was great. Yeah, 131 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.959 he is great. So it's it's wild Robbie's Robbie is great. 132 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.360 And if you look at his kind of body of work, 133 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.720 you kind of forget, I mean, how how great he 134 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:41.959 was at the University of Arizona. Right, I think he's 135 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.759 third all time and hits some all those things. But 136 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.199 I just wanted to share the story and it so 137 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.480 off topic, but I wanted to say it before I forgot. 138 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.600 Uh So he the ninety three U of A baseball 139 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:53.240 team had a they had a little reunion, right, So 140 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.839 they came in they played golf, and I was fortunate 141 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.199 enough that George Arias and William Morales and and Rob 142 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.839 and h Robert Lemon and those guys are kind of 143 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.920 my friends. So I got invited to go out and play. 144 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:08.120 And so, you know, we play our round. It was great. 145 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.079 There was I think four four sim's were playing, you know, 146 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:11.879 all the scratch and all this stuff. And then so 147 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:15.560 afterwards we're having lunch, and uh so I have to leave, right, 148 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:17.040 and so I want to be very kind. There's a 149 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:18.199 lot of people in there that I looked up to, 150 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:19.879 Todd Brown, who's the head coach of the New Mexico, 151 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:22.319 like guys that I've had these conversations in touch with 152 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.600 from Afar and or have watched growing up. And so 153 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:27.399 I'm leaving right and I give this like little speech like, hey, 154 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.040 I just want to let you guys know that when 155 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.040 I was growing up, I watched you because ninety three 156 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.839 was the best offense, maybe your best offensive team everde 157 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:36.120 So I was like, yeah, it's great, thank you so 158 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.439 much for including me, Like this is amazing. And in 159 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.639 the background I hear somebody go, he just wants to 160 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:41.600 get invited next year. 161 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.120 Again, that's why I say this. And I was like, 162 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.319 you're not wrong. I'd probably be your yeah somewhere around there. 163 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.839 Yeah. Yeah, well but I mean my dad took me 164 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:50.319 those games all the time at Frank's. That's sure. 165 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:52.079 You know. We talked about that all last week because 166 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.720 of the baseball team. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't seem that 167 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.839 long ago, but it's thirty two years ago. 168 00:06:59.000 --> 00:06:59.240 Yeah. 169 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:00.439 I don't want to. I mean, and you we don't 170 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.720 have to put numbers to it. Steve, So what do 171 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.199 you think? What do you think about the baseball? Have 172 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:05.959 you been watching the College World Series? 173 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:06.720 Probably too? 174 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:09.639 Like in and out? I stopped, well, I kind of stopped. 175 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.040 I'm not a big college baseball fan. Yeah you said that, 176 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:12.959 which is kind of wild. 177 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.560 But after U of A was done, I just, yeah, 178 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.680 you I don't have all of tucsons. Yeah, but now 179 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:23.199 we have what Arkansas and LSU and the two teams at. 180 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.240 Coastal Carolina and in Louisville. But I think Coastal Carolina 181 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:27.480 was up six nothing today when I. 182 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:29.959 Go, yeah, just and if you could do it at 183 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.319 Coastal Carolina and baseball, you can do it anywhere. 184 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.519 But it's not Listen, that's not People are like, oh, 185 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:36.759 they're underrated. I'm like, no, they're a number thirteen team 186 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:38.399 in the country. They've won a World Series in the 187 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:40.399 last ten year. You know, they beat us for a 188 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:41.959 World Series, which I mean. 189 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:43.959 And baseball is different because you played the game, and 190 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:45.199 you know how different it is. 191 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.600 You could have just a rag tag dudes that can play. Listen, 192 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.920 I've some of the best teams I had and ever 193 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:54.120 played on were guys that had no business probably played baseball. 194 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.279 But it was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do whatever 195 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.639 it takes to win this game for my timemate. And 196 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.519 that was amazing, right, Yeah. I mean I was fortunate 197 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:03.120 enough to win a couple of championships. We won a 198 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.000 championship and winter ball in Hawaii, and it was all 199 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:07.800 I mean, all those guys went on to be All 200 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.680 Stars in the big leagues and I mean you've got 201 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.000 tenures and all those things, but we just were having 202 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:13.519 fun together. 203 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:14.600 Yeah, you know, no, no. 204 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:16.160 It brings to me to as you say this, that 205 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:17.920 brings me to the point that I bring this whole time, 206 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.920 even though he can't defend himself. It's Jay because he 207 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:22.720 tells me, you look good, play good, blah blah blah. 208 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.680 And I'm thinking, give me a glove, give me some cleats, 209 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.600 put some shorts on me. I'm gonna run right through you, 210 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.879 because yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you've got 211 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.240 you've probably done both ways where you have these dudes 212 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:36.799 that are just dogs and will do anything to win, 213 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:38.639 and you have the dudes who dress up and you 214 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:40.519 put the stirrups and blah blah blah. You know what 215 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:41.000 I'm saying. 216 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.200 I listen, I played with this guy from Coaches College 217 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:45.519 and and this is summer ball in Northwoods, which you've 218 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.639 got you know the cape CODs number one Northwoods and 219 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:49.879 number two. So we were both very fortunate because I 220 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:51.320 was at Eastern and he was at Coach. He's very 221 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.240 fortunate because their pitching coach was the head coach out there, 222 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.600 brought us over. If he didn't get hit by a 223 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.320 pitch at least twice a game, he was pissed off 224 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.519 like that's he was like I'm getting on. I'm gonna 225 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:02.679 steal second. If there's a ground ball, I'm taking the 226 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.759 short stop. I'm going cleats up like just I wanted to. 227 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:11.279 So I've had this conversation with uh, this high school 228 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.559 senior the other day that plays baseball and football. I said, 229 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.240 it's so great from a baseball standpoint to have a 230 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.759 football mentality, right, like if you can have that dual sport, 231 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.360 but football mentality is like I'm gonna run through you. 232 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:25.080 If you have that mentality in baseball, you are going 233 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.879 to be really successful, no question now, because they're just dogs. 234 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:29.039 They're just dogs. 235 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:30.480 Yeah. And then if you're pissed at the end of 236 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.519 the game, so you got beat like that, yeah, yeah, 237 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:34.600 yeah because you didn't do it. Yeah, Tomor are gonna 238 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:38.159 come back. I'm gonna keep Yeah we used to. Maybe 239 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:39.200 I shouldn't tell this on there. 240 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.039 So, So when we were in so I uh for 241 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:46.600 summer ball in Northwoods. We I played in Waterloo, which 242 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:48.960 is great. They drew fifty five hundred fans a game 243 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:53.039 in college. Coming from Eastern Arizona Community College to that 244 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.679 was this like you're in pro baseball, right, It was amazing. 245 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:59.480 But there was a group of us like minded individuals 246 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.480 that would like to hang out after the games, right, 247 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:04.799 And we got to know the clubby there really well, 248 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:06.559 and we got to know the ownership of the group, 249 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:07.679 and they liked us, so. 250 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:09.519 We would. 251 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:11.240 They would end up giving us the key to the 252 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.720 bar after saying so we would go out after the 253 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.960 games and then go back to the stadium and hang 254 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.320 out and drink. And but it was a whole team effort, right, 255 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.200 So it wasn't What I'm getting at is that you 256 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:25.039 don't bond because you're on the field together. You bond 257 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.679 because you go through these things and you have honest conversations, 258 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.399 you have real talk and you and it's outside the game. 259 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.399 So those things matter. And it doesn't have to mean 260 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.159 you have to drink. You're just a part of it, 261 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:38.320 no question. In fact, that's a secret weapon. That's what 262 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:40.159 people don't talk about. Oh, you guys are all good 263 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.600 at I can't tell you how many good teams I've 264 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:45.519 covered they didn't have that. And you could tell they 265 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:46.120 don't have that. 266 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.759 They don't talk to each other, they're not sticking around 267 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:50.440 playing cards right after the game. 268 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:51.559 I mean, that was the greatest. 269 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.360 That was the funnest part people ask me, do you 270 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:54.919 miss professional baseball? 271 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:55.960 I don't. 272 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:58.679 I mean, I love you and I and I was 273 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:00.799 really good at it. I love on the mount, but 274 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:03.120 I love the camaraderie because you have people from all 275 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.639 over the world. You know, English is the second lane, 276 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.039 with religious beliefs, political beliefs, all different, all sitting at 277 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:12.600 the same table playing cards, having an honest conversation and 278 00:11:12.639 --> 00:11:15.600 then not always agreeing, right, but coming to some kind 279 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:17.639 of a solution, not always agreeing. But the thing is, 280 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.840 if somebody attacked your brother, dude, you're the first game over. Yeah, 281 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:22.360 you're the bullpen. 282 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.679 There's a there's a reason why when you go to 283 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:27.720 bars with baseball teams, you're like, I'm not just fighting you. 284 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:29.639 I'm gonna fight twelve for you. And you're probably not 285 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:31.519 good fighters, but it's gonna be tough to be twelve 286 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:32.480 with you up. Right? 287 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:35.759 Are the guys behind me are helping me? 288 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:38.759 No? No, I mean that's part of part of sport, right. 289 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:41.240 You just kind of you're one, one for all, all 290 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.320 for one. Yeah, and you can tell who's not in 291 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.559 because they're either trying to do their own thing, yeah, 292 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.360 and that person usually gets a pretty strong conversation or 293 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.399 talking to right, you don't have to collapse and do it, 294 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:54.960 but you can't be the outside the having covered thousands 295 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.240 of thousands of games, the one thing I hate the most, 296 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.159 And what does it matter to me or to anybody 297 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.080 what I like or don't like. But when you have 298 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.799 the athlete at the podium looking up their stats, yeah, 299 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:06.879 looking up their stats, looking up down and go, okay, 300 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.240 nobody cares. Nobody cares because you either won or you lost. Right, 301 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:13.799 tell me how you feel about to win, tell me 302 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:14.960 how they lost, whatever. 303 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:16.919 But but you know, it's not about you. 304 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.360 One of the things that I had now during the draft, 305 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.960 and I say this every now and again, Richard Jefferson. Okay, 306 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.200 so he's a junior. They're playing the two thousand and 307 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:29.879 one NBA file National Championship with Gilbert and Luke and 308 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:33.159 then Laura and all these guys and one of my colleagues, 309 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:35.720 national colleagues. Because he's gonna go the NBA. Look at 310 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.320 his stats. He's twelve, twelve points a game, seven rebounds, whatever, 311 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.080 he's not ready. The numbers don't show that. It's not 312 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.759 about the numbers. Now, look, I'll give you a perfect utter. 313 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:48.000 Bryan Carter Bryant exactly. You rid in my mind numbers 314 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.200 he wasn't even a starter. He's gonna be in the 315 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:50.879 top twelve. 316 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.480 Yeah, I mean the combine changes everything, right, sure, NFL, 317 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:56.360 especially NBA, NBA. 318 00:12:56.679 --> 00:12:58.240 How far did you go? Double double A? 319 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.720 If you like, if you are good enough to be 320 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:02.320 in the major leagues, would you have played in the 321 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:04.080 major leagues? I was good enough to play in the 322 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.639 big leagues. So if someone screwed on my labor, I 323 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:08.919 mean that was onto my courage. You know, people, if 324 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:12.960 you're good enough, guess what they do. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, 325 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.799 So if not for bad luck or whatever. 326 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:18.840 It wasn't bad. I mean it was you know, it's life. 327 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.639 But yeah, I mean yeah, people asked me that they 328 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:23.000 used to have I used to coach with the guy 329 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:24.919 he pointed out out all the time, and I was like, 330 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.000 you haven't you think you should know the situation before 331 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:29.840 you say that to the people. But yeah, I mean, 332 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:32.440 people will find you. I mean, I listen. I played 333 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.279 at Eastern Arizona, right, I didn't have a scholarship out 334 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:35.879 of high school. 335 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.240 Nobody was recruiting me. 336 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:39.440 I had a family friend and Jeff Stanley that gave 337 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:42.080 me an opportunity that knew coach back now at Eastern. 338 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:43.879 He came out and watched me pitch in the summer 339 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.000 league game. And then after that game, I think I've 340 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.919 told the story. You know, our players are in a 341 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.919 fistfight with Amti High School's parents and I'm having this 342 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.399 conversation I have to walk on. I mean, I was 343 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.919 I had Western, I mean coaches College's coach gave me 344 00:13:57.960 --> 00:13:59.440 a chance to play in the Northwoods League. 345 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.200 You know, it's so like, if you're good enough and 346 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:03.240 you have the drive and you. 347 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:06.480 Listen, I tell this to everybody, you have to love it, Like, yeah, 348 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.720 it's gonna be some crappy living at times. It's going 349 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:11.519 to be crappy ups and downs. But if you truly 350 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:13.559 love it and you find a way, there's opportunities. 351 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.039 Let me ask you, so, how many in fact to 352 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.399 somebody over the weekend, and we're talking about in the 353 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:20.559 NBA A lo, let's say there's five hundred people in 354 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.559 the rostaurant that a lot of them don't love it. 355 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:23.879 They're just good at what they do. 356 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.960 It's a business. Yeah yeah, in your world you've seen that. 357 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.399 Oh yeah, absolutely, they don't love it, but they get 358 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.279 that they play because it's a good living. 359 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.440 Yeah, there's I mean, there's players I played with. I 360 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:36.159 played with the second rounder who hated baseball and couldn't 361 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.879 two years afterwards, quit and gave away half his bonus, 362 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.360 like you're talking at that point, I think it was 363 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.279 six hundred thousand he had to give back to New 364 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.240 York Mets because he hated it. He didn't want to play. 365 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.799 He was just better than everybody else at it, which 366 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.080 is wild to me. Could you ever imagine, like there's 367 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.519 nothing in life that I'm much better than everybody else at. 368 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:57.320 I could never imagine hating something so much and still 369 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:59.960 be better than ninety nine point percent or ninety nine 370 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:00.679 point nine percent. 371 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:02.639 Well, here's what I is. When I go out to 372 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:04.919 dinner or whatever, especially when I was married, people come, 373 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:07.799 can we talk about excuse me? I hate to bother you, 374 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:09.799 but yeah, and then they bother you like my wife 375 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:12.279 at the time hated it because no, I don't really 376 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:13.159 want to talk about sports. 377 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:14.960 I talk about it too much. It's all the time. 378 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:17.759 Yeah, So that's why when you when we talk about 379 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:21.799 this outside, then people talk about like I don't. The 380 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.159 best is like when you have people in their professional community, 381 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:27.320 when people come up to you and they're like, oh, yeah, 382 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.720 I you know I. Then there are there's authentic people, 383 00:15:30.759 --> 00:15:32.600 and there's people that are trying to tell you and 384 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:33.919 how to do your job, and you're. 385 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:35.159 Like what happens all the time. 386 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:36.519 And then but you have other people that are like 387 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.000 I only played baseball or whatever in the little league 388 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:40.600 and you're like, yeah, that doesn't matter, and they just 389 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:41.879 want to have a conversation, right. 390 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:42.799 I love those people. 391 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:44.720 The other side of it, when people are like, you know, 392 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:46.519 you should do this or this, you should this is 393 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:47.279 why he's failing. 394 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:48.919 I'm like, where did you? 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