Speaker 1: Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
Speaker 1: Tucson Sports Station yet Fox Sports fourteen fIF day.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I'm the ball around Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and with me today's Blake Eager.
Speaker 2: I love the discussion. I know it's not about sports,
Speaker 2: but let me see if I can get some callers
Speaker 2: who have been around for a while and maybe I've
Speaker 2: had some experiences with some of the sports events that
Speaker 2: we've had here forever. The old Toros, the sidewinders, the
Speaker 2: pro volleyball people from back in the day, right, the
Speaker 2: pro softball people that was at High Corbitt Right. I
Speaker 2: don't know it's before my time, but you know the
Speaker 2: Suaro's now, there's a lot of things on this plate
Speaker 2: that could be you know, talked about. You know, the
Speaker 2: sugar skulls, those roadrunners, all these your group now with
Speaker 2: the WBC so much potential. So it's not a it's
Speaker 2: not a hey, I got to get mind, Thane. This
Speaker 2: is everybody's in the same plate, that's the same boat.
Speaker 3: That's some one thing that I think Tucson does better
Speaker 3: than almost anywhere else to the most degree. When you're
Speaker 3: talking about this is it's they're pretty everybody's pretty selfless, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean Bob Bob Hoffman with the Roadrunners literally will
Speaker 3: bend over backwards, give you a shirt off, and be like,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it, we'll figure it out. I mean,
Speaker 3: we were going through it with the WBC kickoff event
Speaker 3: and he's just like, I don't know what your budget is.
Speaker 2: But this is what we'll do. We'll do this for you,
Speaker 2: and he takes care of you, right, So let me
Speaker 2: I'll throw maybe a loophole in this whole thing. Don't
Speaker 2: you think let's say, twelve twelve entities here at the table,
Speaker 2: do you think that they're so busy worrying about themselves, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that they'll help solve or help pull the rope together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you actually.
Speaker 3: I mean that's why you need you need community leaders
Speaker 3: at the table, and then you need a separate entity altogether.
Speaker 3: That says, Okay, I'm going to compile all this data
Speaker 3: and all this information you just threw out there and
Speaker 3: let me get back to you with maybe where you're doing.
Speaker 4: Things not the best way right or could do better? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes total sense because you're,
Speaker 2: like you said, the what's the first order of business,
Speaker 2: the goods and the bad souff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I mean think about it. We've had I
Speaker 3: mean we've had some Look at Pima Community Colleges last year,
Speaker 3: how great did their outside?
Speaker 2: In fact, I was with someone from Pima yesterday saying
Speaker 2: what a great, great.
Speaker 5: Year it was.
Speaker 3: I talked to Ken hackmy all last night. You know,
Speaker 3: it's just it's blown away. How do we get them,
Speaker 3: how do we get people more involved?
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. That's a group that wants
Speaker 2: to be at the table. Yeah, because they've always been
Speaker 2: not always most up until the last few years, they've
Speaker 2: been kind of like the step child because they're under
Speaker 2: the shadow of Arizona. But the success hasn't been like
Speaker 2: it is now.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it's one of the premier junior colleges in
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're looking across the board. I can't
Speaker 3: name a team that did poorly over there. It's just
Speaker 3: it's wild. So yeah, I think it's a perfect time
Speaker 3: to kind of to do that, to start it and
Speaker 3: see where it goes. And I'll be brutally honest with you, Steve,
Speaker 3: I'll do some research on it, but I don't really
Speaker 3: want to go in there saying this is how we
Speaker 3: have to do it. You really want to just go
Speaker 3: in there asking questions and learning and saying, Okay, maybe
Speaker 3: we try this.
Speaker 4: You know who else is doing this?
Speaker 2: Has it worked?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean it's like you know, I John Schmieder is
Speaker 3: a guy in Phoenix that runs Huddle Up. He used
Speaker 3: to run the Tulsa Sports Commission. He's a Tucson guy.
Speaker 3: Went to Sabino, but I call him, you know, not
Speaker 3: all the time, but a lot, just to talk to
Speaker 3: him and pick his brain about a sports commission, what
Speaker 3: that would look like, what could we do better? I mean,
Speaker 3: he's so well connected. It's asking those people want to
Speaker 3: be part of this community. Sarah de with Garman, who
Speaker 3: was part of the Kansas City Sports Commission. She's like,
Speaker 3: you have no idea what you guys have in Tucson.
Speaker 3: You literally have this, this diamond in the rough that
Speaker 3: could compete against everybody because the facilities, you have, the weather,
Speaker 3: you have all the location, and you just need somebody
Speaker 3: that's kind of leading the job.
Speaker 2: How did it get to this point? What do you mean, Well,
Speaker 2: hasn't happened yet, so how did it get here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know you for another show. No, the
Speaker 3: only thing you know, I don't know. I don't know that.
Speaker 3: I think that's a deeper dive conversation.
Speaker 2: It is that we could offend some people just and yeah,
Speaker 2: and I so say that could offend some people and
Speaker 2: be wrong.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this. I think there's a there's
Speaker 3: somewhat of a perfect storm right now. You have some
Speaker 3: really really great people that are all trying to do
Speaker 3: the same thing or that are having these open conversations.
Speaker 3: I mean the counties, I mean Jen Lesher and Carmine
Speaker 3: Damonas are phenomenal with all these things bringing new opportunities.
Speaker 3: You have Sarah Horvat's a Kino sports complex and her
Speaker 3: whole team and I said it today and I'm being honest,
Speaker 3: they literally are the gold stander for stadium districts.
Speaker 4: It's just it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And then you have other people in the surrounding communities
Speaker 3: that are all like, okay, let's do it, Yeah, let's
Speaker 3: figure it out.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got so many great partners in our
Speaker 3: area that are that want to be at that table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, okay, we'll probably talk about this more
Speaker 2: as all he comes in and because you know he's
Speaker 2: full of ideas and good ideas, you know, sometimes out
Speaker 2: of the box. It doesn't make sense that you look
Speaker 2: at against his you know what, that's a pretty good
Speaker 2: idea and he wanted to bring I.
Speaker 4: Don't was that the Raiders?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oakand Raiders like a yeah, they or.
Speaker 4: Something I can't remember. It's not crazy.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're thinking, damn, how come I couldn't I
Speaker 2: think of that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't have thought of that. Yeah, and he
Speaker 3: I mean with all E you're getting, you're getting all E.
Speaker 3: It's not this, it's not it's not. What you see
Speaker 3: is what you get. And that's why he's so successful,
Speaker 3: right can I So last week, I know I wasn't
Speaker 3: able to make it in, but you did have my
Speaker 3: buddy Robbie mohan On, right, Yeah he was great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he is great. So it's it's wild Robbie's Robbie is great.
Speaker 3: And if you look at his kind of body of work,
Speaker 3: you kind of forget, I mean, how how great he
Speaker 3: was at the University of Arizona. Right, I think he's
Speaker 3: third all time and hits some all those things. But
Speaker 3: I just wanted to share the story and it so
Speaker 3: off topic, but I wanted to say it before I forgot.
Speaker 3: Uh So he the ninety three U of A baseball
Speaker 3: team had a they had a little reunion, right, So
Speaker 3: they came in they played golf, and I was fortunate
Speaker 3: enough that George Arias and William Morales and and Rob
Speaker 3: and h Robert Lemon and those guys are kind of
Speaker 3: my friends. So I got invited to go out and play.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, we play our round. It was great.
Speaker 3: There was I think four four sim's were playing, you know,
Speaker 3: all the scratch and all this stuff. And then so
Speaker 3: afterwards we're having lunch, and uh so I have to leave, right,
Speaker 3: and so I want to be very kind. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of people in there that I looked up to,
Speaker 3: Todd Brown, who's the head coach of the New Mexico,
Speaker 3: like guys that I've had these conversations in touch with
Speaker 3: from Afar and or have watched growing up. And so
Speaker 3: I'm leaving right and I give this like little speech like, hey,
Speaker 3: I just want to let you guys know that when
Speaker 3: I was growing up, I watched you because ninety three
Speaker 3: was the best offense, maybe your best offensive team everde
Speaker 3: So I was like, yeah, it's great, thank you so
Speaker 3: much for including me, Like this is amazing. And in
Speaker 3: the background I hear somebody go, he just wants to
Speaker 3: get invited next year.
Speaker 2: Again, that's why I say this. And I was like,
Speaker 2: you're not wrong. I'd probably be your yeah somewhere around there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, well but I mean my dad took me
Speaker 4: those games all the time at Frank's. That's sure.
Speaker 2: You know. We talked about that all last week because
Speaker 2: of the baseball team. Yeah, it doesn't doesn't seem that
Speaker 2: long ago, but it's thirty two years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I mean, and you we don't
Speaker 3: have to put numbers to it. Steve, So what do
Speaker 3: you think? What do you think about the baseball? Have
Speaker 3: you been watching the College World Series?
Speaker 4: Probably too?
Speaker 3: Like in and out? I stopped, well, I kind of stopped.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big college baseball fan. Yeah you said that,
Speaker 3: which is kind of wild.
Speaker 2: But after U of A was done, I just, yeah,
Speaker 2: you I don't have all of tucsons. Yeah, but now
Speaker 2: we have what Arkansas and LSU and the two teams at.
Speaker 3: Coastal Carolina and in Louisville. But I think Coastal Carolina
Speaker 3: was up six nothing today when I.
Speaker 2: Go, yeah, just and if you could do it at
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina and baseball, you can do it anywhere.
Speaker 3: But it's not Listen, that's not People are like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're underrated. I'm like, no, they're a number thirteen team
Speaker 3: in the country. They've won a World Series in the
Speaker 3: last ten year. You know, they beat us for a
Speaker 3: World Series, which I mean.
Speaker 2: And baseball is different because you played the game, and
Speaker 2: you know how different it is.
Speaker 3: You could have just a rag tag dudes that can play. Listen,
Speaker 3: I've some of the best teams I had and ever
Speaker 3: played on were guys that had no business probably played baseball.
Speaker 3: But it was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna do whatever
Speaker 3: it takes to win this game for my timemate. And
Speaker 3: that was amazing, right, Yeah. I mean I was fortunate
Speaker 3: enough to win a couple of championships. We won a
Speaker 3: championship and winter ball in Hawaii, and it was all
Speaker 3: I mean, all those guys went on to be All
Speaker 3: Stars in the big leagues and I mean you've got
Speaker 3: tenures and all those things, but we just were having
Speaker 3: fun together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, no, no.
Speaker 2: It brings to me to as you say this, that
Speaker 2: brings me to the point that I bring this whole time,
Speaker 2: even though he can't defend himself. It's Jay because he
Speaker 2: tells me, you look good, play good, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, give me a glove, give me some cleats,
Speaker 2: put some shorts on me. I'm gonna run right through you,
Speaker 2: because yeah, you know what I'm saying. And you've got
Speaker 2: you've probably done both ways where you have these dudes
Speaker 2: that are just dogs and will do anything to win,
Speaker 2: and you have the dudes who dress up and you
Speaker 2: put the stirrups and blah blah blah. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I listen, I played with this guy from Coaches College
Speaker 3: and and this is summer ball in Northwoods, which you've
Speaker 3: got you know the cape CODs number one Northwoods and
Speaker 3: number two. So we were both very fortunate because I
Speaker 3: was at Eastern and he was at Coach. He's very
Speaker 3: fortunate because their pitching coach was the head coach out there,
Speaker 3: brought us over. If he didn't get hit by a
Speaker 3: pitch at least twice a game, he was pissed off
Speaker 3: like that's he was like I'm getting on. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: steal second. If there's a ground ball, I'm taking the
Speaker 3: short stop. I'm going cleats up like just I wanted to.
Speaker 3: So I've had this conversation with uh, this high school
Speaker 3: senior the other day that plays baseball and football. I said,
Speaker 3: it's so great from a baseball standpoint to have a
Speaker 3: football mentality, right, like if you can have that dual sport,
Speaker 3: but football mentality is like I'm gonna run through you.
Speaker 3: If you have that mentality in baseball, you are going
Speaker 3: to be really successful, no question now, because they're just dogs.
Speaker 3: They're just dogs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then if you're pissed at the end of
Speaker 2: the game, so you got beat like that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah because you didn't do it. Yeah, Tomor are gonna
Speaker 2: come back. I'm gonna keep Yeah we used to. Maybe
Speaker 2: I shouldn't tell this on there.
Speaker 3: So, So when we were in so I uh for
Speaker 3: summer ball in Northwoods. We I played in Waterloo, which
Speaker 3: is great. They drew fifty five hundred fans a game
Speaker 3: in college. Coming from Eastern Arizona Community College to that
Speaker 3: was this like you're in pro baseball, right, It was amazing.
Speaker 3: But there was a group of us like minded individuals
Speaker 3: that would like to hang out after the games, right,
Speaker 3: And we got to know the clubby there really well,
Speaker 3: and we got to know the ownership of the group,
Speaker 3: and they liked us, so.
Speaker 4: We would.
Speaker 3: They would end up giving us the key to the
Speaker 3: bar after saying so we would go out after the
Speaker 3: games and then go back to the stadium and hang
Speaker 3: out and drink. And but it was a whole team effort, right,
Speaker 3: So it wasn't What I'm getting at is that you
Speaker 3: don't bond because you're on the field together. You bond
Speaker 3: because you go through these things and you have honest conversations,
Speaker 3: you have real talk and you and it's outside the game.
Speaker 2: So those things matter. And it doesn't have to mean
Speaker 2: you have to drink. You're just a part of it,
Speaker 2: no question. In fact, that's a secret weapon. That's what
Speaker 2: people don't talk about. Oh, you guys are all good
Speaker 2: at I can't tell you how many good teams I've
Speaker 2: covered they didn't have that. And you could tell they
Speaker 2: don't have that.
Speaker 3: They don't talk to each other, they're not sticking around
Speaker 3: playing cards right after the game.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the greatest.
Speaker 3: That was the funnest part people ask me, do you
Speaker 3: miss professional baseball?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love you and I and I was
Speaker 2: really good at it. I love on the mount, but
Speaker 2: I love the camaraderie because you have people from all
Speaker 2: over the world. You know, English is the second lane,
Speaker 2: with religious beliefs, political beliefs, all different, all sitting at
Speaker 2: the same table playing cards, having an honest conversation and
Speaker 2: then not always agreeing, right, but coming to some kind
Speaker 2: of a solution, not always agreeing. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: if somebody attacked your brother, dude, you're the first game over. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're the bullpen.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a reason why when you go to
Speaker 3: bars with baseball teams, you're like, I'm not just fighting you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fight twelve for you. And you're probably not
Speaker 2: good fighters, but it's gonna be tough to be twelve
Speaker 2: with you up. Right?
Speaker 4: Are the guys behind me are helping me?
Speaker 2: No? No, I mean that's part of part of sport, right.
Speaker 2: You just kind of you're one, one for all, all
Speaker 2: for one. Yeah, and you can tell who's not in
Speaker 2: because they're either trying to do their own thing, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that person usually gets a pretty strong conversation or
Speaker 2: talking to right, you don't have to collapse and do it,
Speaker 2: but you can't be the outside the having covered thousands
Speaker 2: of thousands of games, the one thing I hate the most,
Speaker 2: And what does it matter to me or to anybody
Speaker 2: what I like or don't like. But when you have
Speaker 2: the athlete at the podium looking up their stats, yeah,
Speaker 2: looking up their stats, looking up down and go, okay,
Speaker 2: nobody cares. Nobody cares because you either won or you lost. Right,
Speaker 2: tell me how you feel about to win, tell me
Speaker 2: how they lost, whatever.
Speaker 4: But but you know, it's not about you.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I had now during the draft,
Speaker 2: and I say this every now and again, Richard Jefferson. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he's a junior. They're playing the two thousand and
Speaker 2: one NBA file National Championship with Gilbert and Luke and
Speaker 2: then Laura and all these guys and one of my colleagues,
Speaker 2: national colleagues. Because he's gonna go the NBA. Look at
Speaker 2: his stats. He's twelve, twelve points a game, seven rebounds, whatever,
Speaker 2: he's not ready. The numbers don't show that. It's not
Speaker 2: about the numbers. Now, look, I'll give you a perfect utter.
Speaker 2: Bryan Carter Bryant exactly. You rid in my mind numbers
Speaker 2: he wasn't even a starter. He's gonna be in the
Speaker 2: top twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the combine changes everything, right, sure, NFL,
Speaker 3: especially NBA, NBA.
Speaker 4: How far did you go? Double double A?
Speaker 2: If you like, if you are good enough to be
Speaker 2: in the major leagues, would you have played in the
Speaker 2: major leagues? I was good enough to play in the
Speaker 2: big leagues. So if someone screwed on my labor, I
Speaker 2: mean that was onto my courage. You know, people, if
Speaker 2: you're good enough, guess what they do. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So if not for bad luck or whatever.
Speaker 4: It wasn't bad. I mean it was you know, it's life.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean yeah, people asked me that they
Speaker 3: used to have I used to coach with the guy
Speaker 3: he pointed out out all the time, and I was like,
Speaker 3: you haven't you think you should know the situation before
Speaker 3: you say that to the people. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: people will find you. I mean, I listen. I played
Speaker 3: at Eastern Arizona, right, I didn't have a scholarship out
Speaker 3: of high school.
Speaker 4: Nobody was recruiting me.
Speaker 3: I had a family friend and Jeff Stanley that gave
Speaker 3: me an opportunity that knew coach back now at Eastern.
Speaker 3: He came out and watched me pitch in the summer
Speaker 3: league game. And then after that game, I think I've
Speaker 3: told the story. You know, our players are in a
Speaker 3: fistfight with Amti High School's parents and I'm having this
Speaker 3: conversation I have to walk on. I mean, I was
Speaker 3: I had Western, I mean coaches College's coach gave me
Speaker 3: a chance to play in the Northwoods League.
Speaker 4: You know, it's so like, if you're good enough and
Speaker 4: you have the drive and you.
Speaker 3: Listen, I tell this to everybody, you have to love it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be some crappy living at times. It's going
Speaker 3: to be crappy ups and downs. But if you truly
Speaker 3: love it and you find a way, there's opportunities.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, so, how many in fact to
Speaker 2: somebody over the weekend, and we're talking about in the
Speaker 2: NBA A lo, let's say there's five hundred people in
Speaker 2: the rostaurant that a lot of them don't love it.
Speaker 2: They're just good at what they do.
Speaker 4: It's a business. Yeah yeah, in your world you've seen that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, they don't love it, but they get
Speaker 2: that they play because it's a good living.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's I mean, there's players I played with. I
Speaker 3: played with the second rounder who hated baseball and couldn't
Speaker 3: two years afterwards, quit and gave away half his bonus,
Speaker 3: like you're talking at that point, I think it was
Speaker 3: six hundred thousand he had to give back to New
Speaker 3: York Mets because he hated it. He didn't want to play.
Speaker 3: He was just better than everybody else at it, which
Speaker 3: is wild to me. Could you ever imagine, like there's
Speaker 3: nothing in life that I'm much better than everybody else at.
Speaker 3: I could never imagine hating something so much and still
Speaker 3: be better than ninety nine point percent or ninety nine
Speaker 3: point nine percent.
Speaker 2: Well, here's what I is. When I go out to
Speaker 2: dinner or whatever, especially when I was married, people come,
Speaker 2: can we talk about excuse me? I hate to bother you,
Speaker 2: but yeah, and then they bother you like my wife
Speaker 2: at the time hated it because no, I don't really
Speaker 2: want to talk about sports.
Speaker 4: I talk about it too much. It's all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why when you when we talk about
Speaker 3: this outside, then people talk about like I don't. The
Speaker 3: best is like when you have people in their professional community,
Speaker 3: when people come up to you and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I you know I. Then there are there's authentic people,
Speaker 3: and there's people that are trying to tell you and
Speaker 3: how to do your job, and you're.
Speaker 4: Like what happens all the time.
Speaker 3: And then but you have other people that are like
Speaker 3: I only played baseball or whatever in the little league
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, that doesn't matter, and they just
Speaker 3: want to have a conversation, right.
Speaker 4: I love those people.
Speaker 2: The other side of it, when people are like, you know,
Speaker 2: you should do this or this, you should this is
Speaker 2: why he's failing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, where did you? Like you have?
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball. He know,
Speaker 2: Foxports fourteen fifty Steve Rivera your blake eager. We're waiting
Speaker 2: for all of I hope he got his message to call.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe taking a nap. Maybe he's taking a nap. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's staying a nap. He's probably doing
Speaker 2: something more important. Yeah, like taking a nap. That's more
Speaker 2: important to me. Let's let's talk about that. How often
Speaker 2: in your life do you get to take a naps?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't, But I love that. There's the best. Love him,
Speaker 2: even if it's a twenty minute nap, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It's a power. Now. I used to do the when
Speaker 2: I worked at the paper. I did it, you know,
Speaker 2: to get my energy back, you know, I because you know,
Speaker 2: when you're in the sports writing business, you're going to
Speaker 2: sleep at two in the morning, and you're waking.
Speaker 3: Up late, and you gotta be ready to go at
Speaker 3: any time if a story pops up. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and especially nowadays. I'll tell you, man, I don't care
Speaker 3: what people say. The Europeans have figured out they get
Speaker 3: a little css, they get a two hour they get
Speaker 3: a two hour lunch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, right, find me out it is. You're right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I missed those impact. In fact, Kevin covering Dick told
Speaker 2: me he used to do that in his office. Shut
Speaker 2: the door at the couch there, boom, and he was
Speaker 2: ready to go to practice.
Speaker 4: How great was Dick tomy are?
Speaker 2: We talked about that yesterday because we had rich Tony
Speaker 2: on yesterday. Yeah, no, fantastic, you had rich On great
Speaker 2: baseball player. Yeah. Now he's got that the coaching founder
Speaker 2: Coaching Alliance. Yeah yeah, it's really good, done, really well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's ups. I'm trying to get a move back to Tucson. No,
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of stuff going on. He's very successful.
Speaker 2: But that's another thing. I mean you just like I said,
Speaker 2: you have a lot of people who are involved in
Speaker 2: these things. They just need more people more. How can
Speaker 2: I say this more brighton minds?
Speaker 4: We you and I have talked about it.
Speaker 3: Think about think about the people that were successful here
Speaker 3: that went on to become multi multi multi millionaires or billionaires. Right,
Speaker 3: there's been a few, Yeah, like a few, Sam Fox.
Speaker 3: It's funny because there was a list just on.
Speaker 2: The internet Time five top five ARTI Marine and he
Speaker 2: was like the guy that owned he was number two.
Speaker 4: The guy that owns Carvana, who's number one.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know who the heck he was two.
Speaker 2: Zoning the guy that started airs on ice K did
Speaker 2: have the New York Giants, New York Jets guy, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and then they had the Phoenix.
Speaker 3: I mean, but the problem is who's reaching out to
Speaker 3: them saying like, this is a community that you left,
Speaker 3: but you could be back down.
Speaker 2: So funny because there's a lot of money there. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you have a if they're connected to you, a
Speaker 2: ay has.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of success and I'm you know,
Speaker 3: we're obviously having a conversation about bringing something back or
Speaker 3: coming back into the community, but just leadership, right, like
Speaker 3: these were two zon ins, they were two zonings. Look
Speaker 3: at them, now, how did they get from point A
Speaker 3: to point B. You know, well, I'm telling you I
Speaker 3: have two cousins as a teacher. What's a door if
Speaker 3: you go and you try to do and you hey,
Speaker 3: I kind of use my women analogies. If you don't
Speaker 3: go ask them to dance, Now, how do they know
Speaker 3: you're a good dancer?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 2: And you got to go and fail, you gotta go fail.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid of failure, but I've been there, done that,
Speaker 2: and it's it's tough, but it's also helped me do
Speaker 2: other things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to be afraid of failure
Speaker 3: after being a baseball player, where you all you ever
Speaker 3: do is just fail, right, and people are like, I failed,
Speaker 3: I'm damn okay. Well to pitch, yeah, I've given up
Speaker 3: some home runs that haven't landed yet, like so yeah.
Speaker 2: No, and situational stuff no, no, you have to kind
Speaker 2: of just forget about it, Broda Belding, and forget about
Speaker 2: your successes too, because those are fleeting.
Speaker 4: My wife reminds me of that. So we're good there.
Speaker 4: Because you're married.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean she's never taken care less.
Speaker 4: I mean that's a good thing for me.
Speaker 2: So you and her do you guys go with former
Speaker 2: friends the pitched or played.
Speaker 3: I've got a pretty I've got a little group that
Speaker 3: are all ex guys.
Speaker 2: So so let me ask you. Do they get into
Speaker 2: those oh back in the day, you know, remember that
Speaker 2: time and the wife are saying, oh, shut.
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: My wife would say that with my high school friends
Speaker 3: when we because we only see each other maybe like
Speaker 3: once a year when we get together, it's kind of
Speaker 3: that way. And my wife's like, I'm going to go
Speaker 3: ahead and skip this one. I don't I don't need
Speaker 3: to hear any of this stuff. And I'm like yeah,
Speaker 3: and she's like, I could probably recite it orbat him
Speaker 3: for what you've said already.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Like Anthony Vega, who's my best friend, played for the Orioles.
Speaker 3: He's a Long Island guy from New York. We we
Speaker 3: rarely like. He doesn't watch baseball anymore, so we talk
Speaker 3: a lot. And we're in like three fantasy football leagues,
Speaker 3: so we'll talk about that, or we talk about kind
Speaker 3: of just what's going on in the world. My other buddy,
Speaker 3: Jared McDonald, who's now the heading coach at Utah State
Speaker 3: for the women's softball team. He just got that job.
Speaker 3: I talked to him yesterday and we just talked about
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, softball. Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's a
Speaker 3: great job. Yeah, it's a great job. So what about
Speaker 3: you about like when you get with your friends, is
Speaker 3: it the romancing of the I.
Speaker 2: Don't have a friends. No, I don't talk about anything.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't talk to anybody.
Speaker 4: I know it's wild.
Speaker 3: I know you don't strike me as an introvert, but
Speaker 3: I get I get it.
Speaker 2: I just kind of you know, yeah, it's okay. I
Speaker 2: invited George Arias.
Speaker 3: I was like, hey man, you need to come to
Speaker 3: this last night, right, And then Edgar shows me a
Speaker 3: picture and they were facetiming.
Speaker 4: He's laying on his couch.
Speaker 3: I was like, thanks, thanks George for getting off your
Speaker 3: butt and coming here.
Speaker 4: Too busy.
Speaker 2: So I've had him on the show and he's difficult
Speaker 2: to have a conversation with.
Speaker 4: Georgie.
Speaker 3: He's very soft spoken and yeah, and he but he
Speaker 3: is he is. But you can get him riled up
Speaker 3: talking about golf. You know how good he is a
Speaker 3: golf plus free.
Speaker 2: You could tell he's a good Yeah, good athletes you
Speaker 2: can play golf, yeah, because they hit the crap out
Speaker 2: of it, and they're smart and they know stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to get on the champions to where
Speaker 4: if he can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, good athletes, they're not afraid to fail into.
Speaker 4: He can't be a good athlete if you're afraid to fail.
Speaker 2: No, I mean they just beat the crap out of
Speaker 2: the ball and said, guess what I'll do another one.
Speaker 3: You might break some clubs going along the way. So yeah,
Speaker 3: and they're good at everything. Yeah, it takes time. You've
Speaker 3: got to fail to get better at things. So let
Speaker 3: me ask you this, Steve, and we're talking about something,
Speaker 3: we're talking about all these things. You've been here long enough.
Speaker 3: Does it feel different right now to you from a
Speaker 3: community standpoint, Tucson as a whole, as a sports community
Speaker 3: than it has in the past.
Speaker 2: No question. If back then was a three, this is
Speaker 2: at least a seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm not a politics I hate politics. I hate politics,
Speaker 2: but it's unavoidable now. But back then there was it
Speaker 2: was political. You could tell right downtown stadium over here, stadium,
Speaker 2: YadA YadA. And maybe that was a big fail. Not
Speaker 2: maybe it was a big fail because we know the
Speaker 2: results here, we know the actual results We don't know
Speaker 2: if it would have failed Downtown. Maybe it would have.
Speaker 2: We don't know that, right, Yeah, you know, so here
Speaker 2: we are with no question, very much potential for success. Now.
Speaker 2: I think you have the principals who really want to
Speaker 2: push it and make it happen. But to your point
Speaker 2: with Austin or maybe Boulder or whatever, this place can
Speaker 2: be that I didn't leave. I went to USA today
Speaker 2: and DC came back because I loved this place only
Speaker 2: because now it's home and I don't want to leave.
Speaker 2: But this place has so much and I have, you know,
Speaker 2: twenty more years life maybe, But you can see the
Speaker 2: potential here. But you need people like you, guys who
Speaker 2: can think out of the box and say let's try this.
Speaker 2: Let's try this, and we have some money coming in,
Speaker 2: or we can get some money, we can generate some
Speaker 2: money to make this happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Edgar Soto said this really early on.
Speaker 3: He's like, well, why don't we try to go after
Speaker 3: an NBA team? I go, it's never gonna happen. No,
Speaker 3: And it won't happen no.
Speaker 2: But you know what.
Speaker 3: Happens when you have that conversation is things come to
Speaker 3: the table. You bring people to the table having those conversations.
Speaker 3: Well yeah this NBA, No, but why not this?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not an exhibition game? Why not having the
Speaker 2: suns come back down here? Was good at that And
Speaker 2: you probably knew him sitting. Yeah, nbelief, you've sitten all
Speaker 2: the the new Dave sitting. Dave came out and said, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go do it, let's get it. Yeah, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Dave used to come into U. I used to run
Speaker 2: an indoor facility called the Yard East. He used to
Speaker 2: come in and hit uh oh really yeah, batting practice?
Speaker 2: Is that the indoor place? Where is it at?
Speaker 4: Used to be on golf links and like past Ponta talk.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's funny because as little as I know, when
Speaker 2: you you almost less than a year now, you do
Speaker 2: think that way. You think out of the box, and
Speaker 2: you know it takes your swings. You're gonna take your hacks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and if you hit the ball, you hit the ball.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's there's different ways to get to
Speaker 3: your destination, right, and I think our destination is a
Speaker 3: better community.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because you talk about that guy that
Speaker 2: wants to get hit by the ball or whatever. His
Speaker 2: job is to get on base. That's steal second.
Speaker 3: Get score on a base hit, steal second steal signs
Speaker 3: from the catcher, give it to the hitter, right people.
Speaker 3: People hated on the field, but after the off the field? Yeah,
Speaker 3: smart base. Yeah, why isn't he on my You want
Speaker 3: that guy on your tea. You only hate him because
Speaker 3: you want him on your team. That's why I want
Speaker 3: two soon to be I want the rest of the
Speaker 3: United States to be like I hate two song, but
Speaker 3: not because they're doing things wrong.
Speaker 2: Soon Yeah, find a way, find a way and make
Speaker 2: it work.
Speaker 3: I mean, think about Steve, you think about all the
Speaker 3: things weaken off because we're just talking about sports. But
Speaker 3: I mean, how many cities as side have a national
Speaker 3: park Inspacker.
Speaker 2: I don't know, if any, I don't know. Right, so
Speaker 2: you've got some national part. Then we got a call,
Speaker 2: got a call. Hello, you're on the air and line
Speaker 2: on the ball.
Speaker 4: Who's this?
Speaker 14: That's Richard?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: Hey, he talking about that.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City is my hometown. And they have done a
Speaker 5: remarkable job there. They had a lot of extra land.
Speaker 14: That they could do things on.
Speaker 5: They're very fortunate. Uh. And they also had ten years
Speaker 5: of an oil depression that they used to do their planning.
Speaker 14: But one of the things I think we could use
Speaker 14: downtown and.
Speaker 5: Here there are some more tactile events.
Speaker 14: For example, Okahoma City has.
Speaker 5: These giant climbing structures. You strap a harness on, you
Speaker 5: climb this thing up and you take a zip line
Speaker 5: down several hundred yards, or you go have these giant
Speaker 5: slides that go down three or four stories. Then they
Speaker 5: also have a ferris wheel down on down by downtown
Speaker 5: now by the park. Uh, the old Santa Monica ferris wheel.
Speaker 14: That's pretty fun. It's all lit up at night and so.
Speaker 5: Or you know, we could have a wave machine or something.
Speaker 5: There's things could be doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. When was the last time you lived
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City?
Speaker 14: Oh, it's it's been forty years.
Speaker 2: See Okay.
Speaker 5: Roan Arizona. Now, you know, I've watched what they've done.
Speaker 5: I'm familiar with the people who did it. And the
Speaker 5: biggest dan is they also have. And you guys were
Speaker 5: talking about all these billionaires there who you may in
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City. The people donate back to the city, the
Speaker 5: oil company people, they've given tens and tens of millions
Speaker 5: of dollars to build boat houses at downtown o Coome
Speaker 5: City on the o Canadian River. Donate tons of money.
Speaker 5: That's what we don't have here. So let me ask
Speaker 5: you now we're missing.
Speaker 2: That, Richard. So how long have you been in Tucson?
Speaker 12: That long?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: So let me ask you what what do you like
Speaker 2: the most about Tucson?
Speaker 14: Well, uh, just it feels good.
Speaker 5: I like, I don't mind going downtown and and enjoying
Speaker 5: that They've done a lot of great things, and but
Speaker 5: I love the outdoors here.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I'm an old landscapeer Steve Landscape Homes.
Speaker 14: For thirty five years and Tucson, Okay, So I've.
Speaker 5: Been out there every day, you know, and I've been
Speaker 5: helping to try to build p mccounty and Tucson, Arizona
Speaker 5: the best I can. Okay, So what do you make
Speaker 5: life better for my clients? So?
Speaker 2: Know, what do you think would be your first work
Speaker 2: of order to improve?
Speaker 14: Well, I think what I just started talking about downtown.
Speaker 5: We need a plan. I'm more of a tack file
Speaker 5: plan with some kind of physical things to do if
Speaker 5: we can find.
Speaker 14: A space for it, and just a sort.
Speaker 5: Of a revamping a rebranding maybe where we have an
Speaker 5: overall design and plan and maybe there is one.
Speaker 14: I just don't know about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, right, Okay, thanks Richard, ok thank you,
Speaker 5: thank you guys.
Speaker 4: Thank you. Good ideas, no great ideas. I mean Richard's right.
Speaker 3: I mean I think there's a story that we were talking,
Speaker 3: we were reading about with Oklahoma City that I think
Speaker 3: when they were looking at maybe expansion early on in
Speaker 3: the NBA or something else somebody maybe it was baseball,
Speaker 3: they went there and they looked at Oklahoma City and
Speaker 3: they left and they said, sorry, we're not gonna pick it.
Speaker 4: There's nothing to do here. It's a boring city.
Speaker 3: And the city said, okay, here we go and they
Speaker 3: completely over did, like redid the city. I mean it
Speaker 3: is for me saying that it takes a lot, right,
Speaker 3: because I do. I enjoy Oklahoma City. It's a great
Speaker 3: little it's a great city. It's a great place to be.
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, softball, yeah right, yeah, NBA file like at Omah
Speaker 2: Yeah right. I mean those worst place I've ever had
Speaker 2: from a food standpoint. I mean just awful food, terrible food.
Speaker 3: But I mean, if you ever get a chance, have
Speaker 3: you been there during the cultural he is crazy, there's
Speaker 3: so much going on the whole city. Was like, and
Speaker 3: that's what we do for the gym show, right, if
Speaker 3: we did that for other things, like we were just
Speaker 3: bought into it and said this is gonna be crazy
Speaker 3: touson Meet Yourself is it's an unbelievable event. Everybody buys
Speaker 3: into it. Four thousand New Street Fair. Let's buy into
Speaker 3: these things. But Richards Wright, I think you've got You've
Speaker 3: got some leaders down downtown, especially like Rio Nuevo, that
Speaker 3: are looking to do new things and different things that
Speaker 3: I think they need. They need to have somebody that
Speaker 3: tells the story of why they're doing things, because I
Speaker 3: know you probably read the article about the border Lands
Speaker 3: Brewery and what happened, but you nobody knew the whole truth.
Speaker 3: If the truth would have come out first, you would
Speaker 3: have been like, Oh, this makes all the sense in
Speaker 3: the world. They're here to give us different things, give
Speaker 3: us different operations. But I was going to say this
Speaker 3: to Richard, and he's right about that, because there's a
Speaker 3: time during the year is when the ice rink and
Speaker 3: the TCC and Kate Calloun's probably gonna hate me saying
Speaker 3: this because it's a painted a butt for but the ice,
Speaker 3: the outdoor ice rink is up right, you've got the
Speaker 3: road Runners playing. If you walk downtown during that time,
Speaker 3: it's do you have all walks of life going just
Speaker 3: absolutely nuts downtown because you can do the ice rink,
Speaker 3: you can go to these games. There's it's like December
Speaker 3: during Christmas, yeah, the holiday season. But if you had
Speaker 3: more of those things throughout the year, I do think
Speaker 3: you would attract a lot of different walks of life
Speaker 3: going downtown. The only thing, the only complaint that I have,
Speaker 3: and it's a very small complaint, is that we have
Speaker 3: a lot of entertainment downtown, right you have, you have revenue,
Speaker 3: you have you have concert venues, you've got eateries, bars,
Speaker 3: all this.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: I think we're missing out on things to do like
Speaker 3: Corbett's right has you've got yeah, what you might call it,
Speaker 3: thank you?
Speaker 4: You have pickaball. If we had more places like that, I.
Speaker 2: Think you do. I think you do. We don't know
Speaker 2: about it. A Touson Record Club has a downtown oh
Speaker 2: down yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Rec Club's amazing right now? What they did? You've got
Speaker 3: the Paddel plays on paid way. You've got all those things. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean downtown though, right, you're in Congrete downtown. There's
Speaker 3: got to be stuff to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think too, it has this reputation, and
Speaker 2: reputations are hard to beat up upon. But it's what
Speaker 2: that was dangerous that No, that it's just uh not
Speaker 2: that it's dangerous, dangerous, not the worry word that there's
Speaker 2: nothing to do.
Speaker 3: And maybe because there's people to people that haven't traveled
Speaker 3: downtown have no idea.
Speaker 2: What let me tell you something too, because people mentioned
Speaker 2: complaining about the bark Keno the ballpark there, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's the difference now than twenty five years? What the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You can't if I if I if there you're ting
Speaker 3: you MA had ten many rays. I can get anything
Speaker 3: I possibly want exactly. Yeah, I know, David Busters. I
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Speaker 3: that venture that has literally every restaurant, you could possibly everything.
Speaker 4: Here's my issue.
Speaker 2: I know people who are afraid of going south that way.
Speaker 2: Come on, you haven't heard that? Yeah, but I listen.
Speaker 2: But to me, that's stupid. To me, it's yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean I think it is really stupid, and it's
Speaker 3: dangerous anywhere you go. Right, I missed dangerous downtown where
Speaker 3: it was sketchy in the district, and I miss my
Speaker 3: dive bars. But I'm happy for the community. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know better. Now I'm older, I don't want to
Speaker 3: go I mean, listen, I don't want to be in
Speaker 3: that crowd anymore in my life.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the I says and ohs. This is
Speaker 1: I on the ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my the ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're a break eager,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure we're getting here. Told me with
Speaker 2: your guy, that's okay.
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be on spears and Allie tomorrow, I
Speaker 3: just will all know, show them, I'll show you.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that to Justin No, you know all
Speaker 3: he's a very busy person, so I confirmed this morning.
Speaker 3: But we'll get him on okay, Yeah, we'll get some
Speaker 3: wed some time. Unfortunately, people just have to listen to
Speaker 3: me ramble for long.
Speaker 2: Well we got ten minutes if you guys want to
Speaker 2: call we We've kind of gotten off topic after baseball
Speaker 2: with Victor. But I think he's a good topic because
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about this in the summer, right
Speaker 2: that they're going to have a lot of downtime, a
Speaker 2: lot of idle time to talk about different things like
Speaker 2: music and things like that. But this is a this
Speaker 2: is a topic that hits home. I've been here, it'll
Speaker 2: be thirty eight years in August, thinking that when I
Speaker 2: first got year in eighty seven, coming from Dallas working there,
Speaker 2: I'll be here three years and go to my next
Speaker 2: stop probably blah blah blah, and then you stay forever.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 4: Two sounds like a parasite. It gets any the your
Speaker 4: lives and this is home for you.
Speaker 3: And I have lived in some great places around the world,
Speaker 3: and I still I mean, I just it's different. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's different. We were just talking about Denver, right.
Speaker 3: I love Denver, Denver. I lived in Denver, but it
Speaker 3: was it's pretty segregated, like people didn't walks of life,
Speaker 3: didn't really hang out with each other.
Speaker 2: It was confusing to me. I never felt like I
Speaker 2: never felt like I was part of the community, right
Speaker 2: because it didn't welcome you. Yeah, it wasn't just a
Speaker 2: very It wasn't. The people are just different. But they're
Speaker 2: not from there either.
Speaker 4: I mean, what place's talking about people?
Speaker 3: I'm Denver, right, Like my closest friends from Denver were
Speaker 3: from Vegas to so On and Phoenix. So I was like, well,
Speaker 3: why am I? This doesn't make anything. If you didn't
Speaker 3: live here, where would you live? Where would you want
Speaker 3: to live? At all the places I lived?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 2: Oh for obvious reasons. But you also the way in
Speaker 2: life and then everything else. Yeah, what about money because
Speaker 2: it's figured out? Okay, okay, see somebody that's yeah, I've
Speaker 2: been poor. It's fine, it's no, no, I get it.
Speaker 2: I totally so fine. It's funny all your life. I
Speaker 2: wanted to cover Triple A baseball, cover baseball, right, I
Speaker 2: covered the Rangers helped in the summer of eighty seven,
Speaker 2: and I realized, what the hell I hate this? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because the guys aren't always great. It's long days at
Speaker 2: the ballpark, and then you come here and do spring
Speaker 2: training and then you realize not all the guys are great. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of silly. Uh So, to my point is,
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to live in Vegas and then you
Speaker 2: go there and you think I'm good. Seventy two hours
Speaker 2: in Vegas is plenty for me, And you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: I mostly recently went last month, and I'm thinking, I
Speaker 2: don't know sure when I want to go back.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I love I love living in New
Speaker 3: York in my twenties. I don't want to live in
Speaker 3: New York, and I don't want to live in the
Speaker 3: city in my forties, right, you know. I mean I'd
Speaker 3: live in Sweden again, heartbeat. That was the best place
Speaker 3: I ever lived, probably, But yeah, you know, you it's
Speaker 3: the same thing. You get this, you change, You've all right, sure,
Speaker 3: so no, it's get off my lawn and just don't
Speaker 3: be you are Actually you were definitely a get off
Speaker 3: my lawn again again. The funny thing about is I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not, but I don't know even now. You know
Speaker 3: it's last last year, last summer. For the first time
Speaker 3: in my life, I'm thinking, I'm not sure I can
Speaker 3: deal with this heat because it was one hundred.
Speaker 4: And twelve or better for forever.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm so glad you brought that up. I just
Speaker 3: had this conversation. I said, the older you you asked
Speaker 3: me ten years ago. I'd been like, it's fine, you
Speaker 3: figured out. At this point, I'm like, I gotta get it.
Speaker 4: I can't do this.
Speaker 2: It's one hundred and thirteen tomorrow. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be here. I'm not leaving the house like I don't
Speaker 2: want to be outside exactly. And it's like it makes
Speaker 2: me angry. I get angry about it. I'm like, why
Speaker 2: is it so freaking hot? And why is it so hot?
Speaker 2: I'm like, you lived here, your whole life is what happened?
Speaker 2: Nothing changed, right, No, exactly exactly. We talked about Phoenix,
Speaker 2: right because you were up there and I was up
Speaker 2: there and it's one hundred fourteen and you could just
Speaker 2: feel it. And I'm thinking, why why? Maybe because I'm
Speaker 2: just older and I'm crankier, and there's an age there
Speaker 2: where something just flipped for me. And then and then
Speaker 2: I cause I know a lot of old people. I
Speaker 2: played poker with a lot of old people. Yeah, why
Speaker 2: are you so cranky? Yeah, I guess what you have
Speaker 2: to look at the mirror, say why am I so cranky? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I listened.
Speaker 3: I if I'm notching about something, I'm not living. I like,
Speaker 3: I complain about everything. I lived in in a fifty
Speaker 3: five and older community, and this this is best place
Speaker 3: I really actually Yeah, in South Florida, in Port Santee,
Speaker 3: right outside of Port Saint Lucie.
Speaker 2: But you were what thirty eight?
Speaker 3: No, this is like when I was twenty three, I
Speaker 3: was living in Port Saint Lucie. I was playing with
Speaker 3: the Mats, so I stayed there a nafseason. So the
Speaker 3: girl I was dating at the time, day, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she had just had hip surgery.
Speaker 4: It was perfect.
Speaker 3: Uh. Now our dad had a place there, so we
Speaker 3: would go. We would live there when I was staying there,
Speaker 3: and my best friends was my best My two best
Speaker 3: friends was a seventy eight year old and eighty two
Speaker 3: year old. We'd wake up at five in the morning
Speaker 3: and play a round of golf. We'd go have lunch,
Speaker 3: go take a nap, come back and play cards and
Speaker 3: have drinks and then go to somebody's house. It was
Speaker 3: the greatest joy in my life. And all we did
Speaker 3: all day long was in complaints. Yeah, it was the
Speaker 3: greatest thing.
Speaker 4: That's how it was.
Speaker 2: I joined a new group, my my son and my
Speaker 2: son and his girlfriend. I met her parents and the
Speaker 2: family on that side recently, and it was a bunch
Speaker 2: of dudes like that old dude. It was like Walter
Speaker 2: Matthallen and some of those other people. And I'm thinking, I.
Speaker 4: Even joke with them.
Speaker 2: It feels like I'm in the cocoon and I'm in
Speaker 2: a cocoon movie, like Cocoon eight. And it was like yeah,
Speaker 2: And they were smoking cigars and we're playing and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: how did I end up here? And I was texting
Speaker 2: my study says, yeah, there are a bunch of you
Speaker 2: know whatever, And I'm thinking, God, good luck you're married
Speaker 2: into this thing.
Speaker 3: It's so funny that I have no interest in being crowds.
Speaker 3: So we go to concerts all the tunch. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: go to concerts all the time. And somebody touches my
Speaker 3: elbow and I'm already been standing there. I'm just lose
Speaker 3: my I lose my mind. I'm like, I've been I've
Speaker 3: been here for forty five minutes. Why are you touching me?
Speaker 2: Now You're trying to get closer, like no boundaries, And
Speaker 2: people were like wait till they still asking you questions.
Speaker 2: You know, what did you do for a living?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, I'm just a dude works a circ Okay,
Speaker 2: bus driver. I've always that was my alter ego every time,
Speaker 2: because it's a great job. Great first thing. The first
Speaker 2: thing you said, tell me you're a bus driver. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm a bus ride. I'm sure you could tell some story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you got one. Oh, I can go
Speaker 4: into it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: See that's a great thing. At a young age, when
Speaker 3: you take on an alter ego, you have to create
Speaker 3: a hole.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I was all in on it, stabbing people on
Speaker 3: the bus. I was good driving in Houston. I never
Speaker 3: lived in Houston. You're talking about worst cities. Oh god, hoon,
Speaker 3: can't stand Houston. I went to the Woodlands once. Yeah, great,
Speaker 3: gots your great poopa.
Speaker 2: Yeah. A little to uppity, yeah, a little yeah, but
Speaker 2: it was nice. It was nice listen. Although it was
Speaker 2: it was in the summer and it's holy crap. I
Speaker 2: don't want to live that vice.
Speaker 3: But the first the first guy's flight, it's pretty nice
Speaker 3: when you get it, you ever get upgraded, it's it's
Speaker 3: pretty nice.
Speaker 2: It's it's your seventy two hour thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, give me one.
Speaker 3: And then I got to get back to listen. I'm
Speaker 3: not this person could be cranky anyway. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: could keep up this facade for a little while. But
Speaker 3: it's not a it's not a life it's not a
Speaker 3: life changing side.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you feel comfortable in this radio gig of
Speaker 2: yours that you got who you well, it's pretty easy
Speaker 2: to do. This is your former dream job. I think
Speaker 2: I always wanted to just be a producer. Oh that's
Speaker 2: what I did at KX. I would set up with
Speaker 2: bands and play play music. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: I never envisioned myself being on there. Who'd you go
Speaker 2: see Monday? The Pixies, The Pixies, I've heard of them? Okay,
Speaker 2: so who is your going mind? Who your favorite band's
Speaker 2: growing up? Who are they?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're gonna get into it. Just give
Speaker 3: me three, uh favorite bands growing up? N w A,
Speaker 3: Rolling Stones, the clash. But you're saying and my favorite
Speaker 3: like three, I would definitely include Marvin Gayano's reading and
Speaker 3: or Howling Wolf, Hellanwolf our Muddy Waters.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, yeah, you're an old schoolish guy. But
Speaker 2: Rolling Stones to me back in the early eighties were
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if I would say the
Speaker 3: early eighties, No, that's sixties, seventies yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: because I listened to that music. But me, that's how old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was.
Speaker 3: You were a big Rod Stewart hot legs fan, right,
Speaker 3: probably faces.
Speaker 4: Good God, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's old now he's any Jewish? Yeah, I mean people
Speaker 2: grow old. Briannon and sly Stone died back to back days.
Speaker 3: My heart was crushed. Yeah, using sly Stone arguably is
Speaker 3: the greatest musician of all time. You think about the
Speaker 3: people that I mean, Brian Wilson's insane category, but sly
Speaker 3: could play every instrument and the people that came after
Speaker 3: him that he, you know, essentially created because what he did.
Speaker 4: So what about you? Growing up?
Speaker 2: It was the foreign the foreigners, I just saw them.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I just did a lot
Speaker 2: of I'm a seventies guy. Seventy. That's what I listened
Speaker 2: to now, rock rock, kind of easy. Yeah, you're yachtli
Speaker 2: rock guy, right, Yeah, you know any money back in
Speaker 2: the day, Yeah, rolling stones, stones, not the Beatles your stones, guy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: not the Beatles stones guy. Uh god, wango tango, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, no, no, that was nus. Yeah, just you know,
Speaker 2: back when you think you know it all you had.
Speaker 2: I had the you know, the the the bullet, you had,
Speaker 2: the jeans shorts cut off. No, it's just a cigarette
Speaker 2: in the corner. I've never spoke. You had a mullet,
Speaker 2: mullet girls for the girls, baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I envision you. At some point in your life.
Speaker 3: You owned a like a rock z camaro. It's a
Speaker 3: Berlin cam What did you own it?
Speaker 1: Did I?
Speaker 2: It pretty just car champagne. Yeah, it was nice, nice, nice.
Speaker 2: I drove it here when I first got here. That's
Speaker 2: a great get you. Hey, I uh, I love that car.
Speaker 2: That was my first car in college.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: So I can kind of build the structure of who
Speaker 3: you are depending on what kind of music like. That's
Speaker 3: that's my superpower that my dad and my uncle, both
Speaker 3: my uncles gave me and my family gave me so yeah,
Speaker 3: I can. I can say, Okay, you're probably into this
Speaker 3: because you like this, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, wait till I show you pictures when
Speaker 2: I first was, you know, doing media stuff. That's the
Speaker 2: radio shows I did when I first got here. The hair,
Speaker 2: oh man, the jeans in the car. Yeah, I had
Speaker 2: a convertible vo five. No, not a convertible. And that
Speaker 2: was a lot of the waving there. Who the hell
Speaker 2: did I think it was stupid? You look back the
Speaker 2: one where I'm grompy because I'm stupid. Hey, thanks for
Speaker 2: joining me today. Yeah, this was This was actually a
Speaker 2: lot of fun.
Speaker 3: I mean, for as much crap as you gave me
Speaker 3: for me wearing a suit today, you better go to
Speaker 3: dinner for this or something. No, uh, visit to songs.
Speaker 3: Actually hosting a sports conference and so I've got to
Speaker 3: go general benns Yeah Lopez put it all together.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, nice kick him, but over tell her thanks
Speaker 2: for the invite.
Speaker 4: I don't know you're not gonna go.
Speaker 2: I don't need to go. I mean, you don't go
Speaker 2: to anything I was telling I was telling Anthon, Jimmy
Speaker 2: know that today you because if we were talking about
Speaker 2: you going to Evince and We were laughing about it,
Speaker 2: and I said, listen, I had to force him to
Speaker 2: go to the World Baseball Classic. And then he calls
Speaker 2: me when he gets there, like where are my ticket?
Speaker 2: And then he will he refuses to wait in line
Speaker 2: and makes me go back and get tickets for we'll
Speaker 2: walk him back in.
Speaker 4: Guess what it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like the first thing he says, you
Speaker 2: get your wallet, your keys, your classes, because this one
Speaker 2: most of the time I don't.
Speaker 4: Thanks for coming in, Yeah, thanks for having me me