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Speaker 4: Springball kicking off today NFL combined news, Jack Kelly and
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Speaker 3: Ronald free Man Weaver, what's up, Ronnie?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 5: Made sure the right buttons were pressing this, so now
you guys can hear me. But Ben, in the words
of I'm an anime guy, in the words of the
great and Arvizo, if you watched it, it's here, It's here.
Speaker 2: It's finally here.
Speaker 5: My moments before you FaceTime the tuning exams, Ben's springball
is finally here.
Speaker 4: What are you more excited about springball or March madness?
Speaker 3: Right now? For or by bassa boa football? Boi bas
where you more where you're casting your gays? For?
Speaker 5: Well, you you asked, you added another clause in there.
You had said March madness and then you said bau basketball.
Speaker 3: This is okay, this bou basketball? Where who are you boasted?
Speaker 2: It's probably lists.
Speaker 5: This is probably going to throw people for a loop
because people know I'm the basketball guy, but it actually
is springball.
Speaker 2: I need to see who's behind LJ.
Speaker 3: Martin.
Speaker 5: I don't want to see LJ get beat up for
fifty times a game and Bear. I need to see
who's QB two. I need to see who's RB two.
H Parker Kinkson is no longer with the school and
on this team, Who's going to be the wide receiver?
And there's a lot of questions to be answered. I
want to see the young talent. I want to see
the freshman. Last year, people raved about Tommy Prast's that
was a name obviously, other individuals, Carson Ryan, so uh,
you would like to see what those names this year
are been.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: Let's also welcome into the show, Brett always bringing the
hammer hammer time show?
Speaker 3: Was that?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Ben, I have an answer.
I'd be willing to guess.
Speaker 4: You could tell me the city in which every Big
twelve school is located.
Speaker 3: I hope, So can I can? I? Right? Can we
can we go through? I have a reason for this.
Speaker 4: Give me yeah, Azona State, Yeah, Tippe, Okay Universe see Arizona,
uh To Tucson, Tucson, Baylor, Waco, Central Florida, Orlando, Cincinnati, Ohio, Cincinnati,
correct uh Colorado, Colorado, Boulder, Houston is in Houston, Iowa
State Ames Kansas, Oh gosh.
Speaker 3: Why am I? Yeah? I mean you know this one?
Why did I just like what? I just forget this one? Lawrence? Yes,
Kansas State, Kansas State, Manhattan.
Speaker 4: That one's a little bit tougher, like if some people
forget about Manhattan. Because yeah, so Oklahoma State still still
water tcu U it is uh. The df W, It's yeah,
the DFW. Fort Worth, Yes, Texas Sex love It, University
of Utah, Salt Lake City, Baby and West Virginia Morgantown.
Speaker 3: So I delayed on the Lords, I'm a little bit.
But you went perfect. You were perfect.
Speaker 6: So I know we're talking about Joel Clyte later on
the show today, and I hate to start the show
off with a shot at Joel Clyde because apparently in
his recent video he did with the top ten quarterbacks,
he claims, he says, I know bou fans won't believe this,
but I'm actually a bau fan However, it upset me
because in the video he goes, you know, they almost
had him over at Penn State. They really wanted him
there at college station. I said, college station. Excuse me,
hold on, you you know where Penn State is located?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 6: You know? Do you know the name of the city, then,
without looking at Happy Valley, baby, correct, But what's the
city called.
Speaker 4: It's not college station. It's not in the college station
A correct. Yeah, it's close, but that is not Penn State.
Penn State is state college, state college. That's right, state College, Pennsylvania.
And that's that's where I'm from.
Speaker 6: And so I was very upset with Joel because the look,
you're the college guy, you're the college football guy.
Speaker 3: You're a big ten guy. You don't know.
Speaker 6: Look, I'm not expecting you to know the act, the
Ohio Mountain Valley Western Dental College Conference. I'm not expecting
you to know all that, but you don't know that
Penn State, one of the most historic college towns in
the history of America, is located in state college and
not college station.
Speaker 3: We love Joel, We're big Joel Clat fans.
Speaker 6: I don't know Joe clot would believe us, but we're
big Joels on this show. I mean, I don't know
if the YU fans believe me, but I'm a big
BOYU fan, so I'm just giving him the same the
same symbiosis.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, well like Joel, I mean, it is hard.
It is very hard not to make mistakes when the
cameras rolling, when the radio lie. We've all fallen short
of the grace of perfection unless we're saved. But you
have to wonder, like, you know, was it a misapp
or does he just not know? I'm sure he missed seven.
Speaker 6: It just it made me upset because that's where I'm
from and it's not college station.
Speaker 3: And I my father in law.
Speaker 4: I will say time I don't like it, I will say, like,
you know, like when you're you do hear the term
happy valley more than you hear the terms and would right,
I will say that, like when you're when you're discussing
Penn State, you hear more often than not on on
all of the platforms, all of the television stations. You know,
they say state college, there's no doubt correct, but but
they say happy valley. We're a happy valley, you know,
so I don't, but they do.
Speaker 3: Not say college station.
Speaker 6: You got at least a happy Valley, because that's like,
if you said Happy Valley, then we're not even having
this conversation.
Speaker 3: You knew it enough to call it by the wrong name.
Speaker 4: And that's where I You know, what's really interesting about
this Happy Valley conversation is, look like Provo Utah has
been dubbed Happy Valley as well. That really confused me
when I'm moving right, Yeah, yeah, it's just not happy Valley.
So it's why is it happy value? Well, it's you
know a lot of happy Mormons, right. My buddy always
gives me a hard time. He grew up in Arizona
with me and not LDS, and he'll come up here
to you tys like, hey, this is so nice.
Speaker 3: You go to the four way stuff.
Speaker 4: No, no, you go, no, you go and you try
to out nice people, right and and anyway. You know,
so there is definitely that happy Valley. People feel it, right.
They come to Provo and they always say, hey, we
got ice cream. We were we were down twenty one
points in the fourth courter. We got ice cream. You know,
they're loving us up or we're beating their team, and
then they give us ice cream whatever.
Speaker 3: They don't curse at us.
Speaker 4: They're kind, they're they're loving, they're they're they're not talking
trash to you, like thanks for coming. They're always saying
they're always gracious. So there's that element. But Happy Valley
almost took Kilani. They took Kalani from Happy Valley, Provo
to Happy Valley. I almost took them to that Happy
Valley State College the og Happy Valley right, because I
don't know when that term was actually given to pro
vote Utah, and I know you're gonna do a little
due diligence now to figure it out what the timeline was,
the date, the official dates of these monikers, these nicknames
of these great cities that are kind of similar.
Speaker 3: Like you look at State College.
Speaker 4: That's a small town in Provo in many regards, I
mean Utah County.
Speaker 3: I mean it's got Oorum has got Linden, you know,
it's got Alpak College in the middle of nowhere. It's
in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4: And look, Utah and in this metropolitan area is also
kind of in the middle of nowa. It's beyond Sale
County and Utah County. We're kind of kind of you know,
in the middle of nowhere. I mean, we got the
I fifteen corridor, but like, there's not much east and
west going on. We had three and a half million
people in a in a in a fairly large geographical area,
you know what I mean per capita per square mile.
A lot of people, not a lot of people live
in here is what I'm getting now. But yeah, State College,
what forty thousand or so people live there? Provo has more,
I believe, how many more, I'm not sure. But anyway,
what do you have any notes on when Happy Valley
was was was placed on Provo and when Happy Valley
was placed on State College.
Speaker 6: It is weird that both the towns that are famous
for using this are both college downs.
Speaker 3: Very interesting. Oh yeah, so Provo started using it.
Speaker 6: We don't have official dates, but generally they attribute the
Happy Value nickname to Provo somewhere between the.
Speaker 3: Fifties to the seventies.
Speaker 6: And for State College in Pennsylvania, the nickname bates back
to the Great Depression, which is so it was more
for Stay College, it was more of like a Depression
era revival economic resilient story, which is why they got
the nickname. And then for your point, it's it was
like a regional lifestyle branding for Provo and family and
all that good stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's been plenty of like recent data about
like happiest.
Speaker 3: Stay in the USA, and Utah is very high, right,
I mean Hawaii is very high.
Speaker 4: I think Utah most recent studies, you know, in the
top ten, top five per many so they typically, you know,
you see job satisfaction, life, work life satisfaction, family life,
religious life satisfaction. So it's happy. We're happy. We're happier
than those Pennsylvanians. We're happier than you guys.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 6: Growing up, we had to drive an hour and a
half to state conference and three and a half hours
in every direction if you wanted to get to a temple.
And we didn't have a beat ups in town, like
even in State College. State College is a college town.
We didn't have a beat up.
Speaker 3: So yeah, not a lot.
Speaker 4: Where do you think Pennsylvania is ranked per Wallethub. This
was a recent study done. This was published in twenty
twenty five. I remember chatting about happiest states in America.
This was Adam McCann Wallethub, financial writer and so happy
to shape by a mix of internal and external factors
is to give you and qualifiers. We can boost it
by approaching situation positively or choosing to spend time with
people we love doing activities we enjoy. However, other things
are out of our control, like the cost of living crisis,
record high economic and uncertainty, and they have taken a call.
Only forty four percent of Americans say they are very
satisfied with their lives, even though people across the US
are facing difficult times. In state in which you live
may have an impact on how happy you are. In
this study, wallet Hub drew upon findings of happiness research
to determine which environmental factors are leaking to a person's
overall well being.
Speaker 3: And satisfaction with life. Previous studies have found.
Speaker 4: That good economic, emotional, physical, and social health are all
key to a well balanced, fulfilled life. To determine where
Americans exhibit the best combination of these factors, we examined
the fifty states across the thirty key metrics ranging from
depression rate and share of adults feeling productive to income
growth and unemployment rate. So those are some of the
factors of thirty factors that they took into account. Hawaise
number one, Okay, is number six, I know it's actually
number ten. California at number seven. Where do you think
Pennsylvania is the thing I'll say about Pennsylvania. It wasn't
It's not for me. But the thing I will say
about it is like.
Speaker 6: Those people live in the middle of nowhere, like it's
there's one stoplight between, like there's just there's one stoplight
and everybody knows where it is, and that's where all
the gas stations are. Those people love living in the
middle of nowhere, all of them. They don't want to
be close to it. They love driving thirty minutes to
get to target. I actually would guess. My guess is
somewhere between ten to twenty five.
Speaker 3: They're number eighteen. Yeah, all right, so there you go.
They're happy. They're happy people, so they are. They're happy.
Speaker 4: They're above Georgia and Wisconsin in North Dakota, North Dakota,
North Dkota right there, Yeah, in front of them is Iowa,
New York, and Virginia Soda.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have guessed in New York, Florida. Florida's fourteenth.
So that's my mission.
Speaker 4: South Dakota's thirteenth. By the way that the code is,
there's a lot of land and not a lot of
stop stoplights. Oh man, all right, Big Kram on the
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Speaker 3: Utah dot Com. I want to ask you guys this
question in this segment.
Speaker 4: Okay, many of you, many of Cougarnation, they're intrigued by
the wide Receiver one competition this year.
Speaker 3: These are your candidates to become the guy, the dude,
the targeted.
Speaker 4: Jojo Phillips six five he's good, redshirt junior, Cody Hagen
going into his junior year six foot one, one eighty five.
Tanakua sophomore, red shirt sophomore six two one eight five.
Tiger Bachmeyer senior six foot one one ninety, Reggie Frishcinnet
red shirt sophomore six four two o seven Legend Glasgar
true freshman sixty one one seventy five, Kyler Casper, redshirt junior,
six foot six two twelve. Jared Hula freshman six foot three,
two hundred, Terrence Sarian freshman five foot eleven, one seventy
who's your favorite right now to be Bear Bachmeyer's favorite target?
Speaker 3: And why start us off?
Speaker 4: Hammer time show Britt always bringing the hammer and then Ronnie, uh,
you go second, I'll bring.
Speaker 3: Up the Caboos.
Speaker 4: It is such an interesting conversation, man, because none of
these guys really have.
Speaker 3: Background as a wide receiver one.
Speaker 6: Like, at least with Darius or Kielan, you knew that
they had that because they did it at a smaller school,
mind you but it, but at least they had been
the guy somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: None of these guys have been the guy at the
power for level at the college level, so it's really interesting.
The name that jumps off the page obviously, is like,
what if Tiger Bachmeyer was number one wide receiver.
Speaker 3: I don't think that'll be the case. I think I
told this around this morning.
Speaker 6: I think Tiger Bachmeyer, of a lot of these guys,
I think he has the lowest ceiling, but I think
he has the highest floor. Like I think he's the
most guaranteed consistent receiver, but I also think he's the
least likely to pop off for like one hundred and
fifty yards and two touchdowns. So as far as the
wide receiver one conversation goes, I think your wide receiver
one will be Jared Poula. I think I think after
practice today and over the next couple of weeks. It
is going to be a conversation akin to the conversation
surrounding Bear Bachmeier week one to fall camp, and we're like, well,
it can't be him because he's a true freshman.
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll do it. Yeah, I think Jaren
Puola is going to turn some heads at camp today.
Speaker 3: I like it. I like it a lot, very hot,
fiery take Ronald the three man Weaver. Who's your favorite and.
Speaker 2: Why none on this list? Whoa you talk about?
Speaker 3: By the way, this take that ron has is hotter
than mine.
Speaker 2: It is very hot.
Speaker 5: Let's go hotter, right, but it's not hyperble. I know
it can be prone to be that, but this is not.
It's realistic safety blanket. Was hoofer Bear last year? Been
wasn't Chase? It was who number twenty in blue? Yeah,
number eighty four in blue. Let's go tight end, Let's
go the one walker Lions. Look, Brad just broke it
down for you. There's no guy on this list that
is proven it and liked it at that level. Yeah, people,
you like what you saw against Jojo Phillips, But has
it been yet? Okay, he got dinged, he got hurt,
but you haven't seen it. Walker, I feel like has
the potential. He did it in high school. You saw
he can line up in the slot, he can line
up on the outside. Carson Ryan, you know, started to
get integrated to the offense the later part of the
season and he looked phenomenal. I think Walker has that
ability when you have a flex tight end that has
the catching ability of Isaac Rex and Dallan Hulker mixed
in the one and he's nice by himself without that.
I just think Ben, that look for the list that
you named for me, it's Legend Glaskar on that list
because of his route running ability and his speed. I
think Cody Hagen needs to look out for his kickoff
spot because Legend's coming for him. If Cody can't stay healthy,
that's if Cody can't stay healthy. When he's healthy, it's
Cody Hagen. But to me, Ben, I think Walker Lions,
a rod likes to throw to the tight end, has
been and I just think that Walker Lions has a
chance to be up there as a top three receiver
this year. I don't think that's a I don't think
that's why. Probably I think that's a legit take you
can make.
Speaker 6: I don't want to put out the fire of Ron's take,
but I just want to contextualize with some numbers. Do
you guys know who the last tight end was in
college football to lead a college football program in yards
or catches?
Speaker 3: Give you a hint.
Speaker 4: It hasn't been done since twenty eighteen, so it's been
a while. This guy is an elite NFL tight end
and I'm trying to remember where he plays, but spoiler alert,
you could probably guess what college he went to tight
end you those Iowa how high?
Speaker 3: The last time a.
Speaker 6: Tight end led a college ball program in yards and
catches or either one was TJ. Hockinson at the University
of Iowa with forty nine catches and seven hundred and
sixty yards. Which if our best receiver has seven hundred
and sixty yards, then I hope that every single one
of those running backs is pushing near one thousand, because that.
Speaker 3: To me is he won the Mackie Award.
Speaker 6: That he did win, they did that he had it.
There was another tight end on that team you might
have heard of, the man named Noah Fant. He also
had five hundred nineteen yards. So look if Walker Lions
can do it awesome. My guess is if he if
he wasn't number one tight end at USC. I don't
know that he's doing it to BYU, but I'd love
to be proven wrong. Ron I would love for Walker
Lions to win the Mackie Award this year.
Speaker 5: Well, and that's why I said top three right, because
he's look, I believe that. I believe he's gonna be
a top three receiver on this team. I just I
believe there's too much in the wide receiver room for
all those guys to get time, and Walker's a day
one started immediately.
Speaker 4: I think it's very intriguing. We made this comment probably
last week. You look at the tenure, you look at
the seasoned vets Jujo Phillips sixty five two five, you
could say Reggie, I mean, with a year under his bell,
I wouldn't say he's a he's a season vet, but
he's got at least college football productivity. Six foot four
two o seven, big body, big body Kyler Casper six
six to twelve. And then your guy Jaren's actually six
three two hundred tay, you know, pretty thick, six two
eighty five, and any of your smaller guy sixty one
to one ninety, Tiger Cody Hagen sixty one one eighty five,
Terrence Seri on five foot eleven, one seventy is a
pretty big wide receiving cores. Walker's you know, sixty three
six four two forty, and I wouldn't be surprised to
your point, Ronnie, if Walker Lions, I've heard reports, is
just as fast as Jojo Phillips, just as fast as
somebody these big bodied wide receivers. So he's essentially a
wide receiver in somewhat of a tight ends body at
two forty five to forty, which is impressive to say
the least. Like when you're taking you got thirty more
pounds in a guy and you run as fast as
he can, and you run rounds as good as he can.
I mean, you combine that with Roger sali Apaga if he's.
Speaker 3: In in the mix.
Speaker 4: Two those are that's five eligible and you could go
I mean, you could go empty with those guys. And
there's probably some bodying matchups there not you know, maybe
some vertical threat, but like your intermediate passing game and
those fifty fifties may turn into seventy thirties eighty twenties
because of the big.
Speaker 3: Body matchups that you have, and that would be intriguing.
Speaker 4: Now the case the curious case of wide receiver one,
I think if I'm just taking the wide receiver one list,
I think you lean probably towards Jojo Phillips. Why why
do you lean towards Jojo Phillips Because if you look
at you know, he's actually been game.
Speaker 3: Planned before, like a rod has has it.
Speaker 4: But prior to that Stanford game, I believe it was
that every like the game plan was get him touches
high let him, Yeah, highlight Jojo. You can't do that
unless like there's a certain amount of trust. Now, did
Jojo always catching the ball?
Speaker 3: Now? But he was open, He's right there, and and
when he does have a.
Speaker 4: Catch high pointing, you know, one handed, I mean, it's
a it's a beautiful thing. So you saw a front
end before his injury. Three reception thirty yards and he
got multiple more targets in that game. He got injured,
and he finally made it back in the Texas Tech
game at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: The two final games.
Speaker 4: Okay, and Parker was involved, right, you had you're you're
you had all your guys available. He had seven receptions
in almost one hundred yards in those in those two games,
so combined, I believe if you're gonna bet on anybody
right now to take a jump forward and be a
wide receiver one.
Speaker 3: I think it's Jojo.
Speaker 4: I think it's Jojo, and I think he's had a
pretty good offseason all things considered. I think he's had
a pretty good offseason. Now, would I like more.
Speaker 3: Dog in him? Yes, He's a good blocker. Though.
Speaker 4: One of the reasons why he's going to get game
planned is because you can keep him on the field
the entire freaking game. He's got good length, he locks
up defenders, and he drives his feet. He's not too
good to block. And when you're not too good to block,
you stay on the field and if you can get open,
you're gonna get opportunities. Now, if he drops a ton
of balls, then yeah, you're you're gonna have a limited
You're gonna have a limited number of targets and Bear's
gonna stop throwing to you.
Speaker 3: But remember Bear was targeting him and a Rod was
game planning him.
Speaker 4: So I'm leaning right now Jojoe Phillips that's my guy
because out of all the guys listed, he's the guy
with the most targets, he's the guy with the most
catches in the system that is being employed right now,
and he's a red shirt junior. Tenure does matter in
the A Rod offense, I believe, And I don't know
how many guys like how good of a blocker is Legend,
how good of a block Jared?
Speaker 3: Some of the young bucks.
Speaker 4: You know, Tiger is a pretty good blocker, Like you know,
he could end up being I mean, look, if Bear
wants to target his brother a little bit more, I
mean he did, like you saw Tiger get looks it
very well.
Speaker 3: Could be Tiger uppercut.
Speaker 4: Street fighter, street fighter, Tiger Baby could be Tiger. But
like right now, I'm leaning towards Jojo. If you're you're
a big fan of of brotherly love and cohesion, chemistry
and repetitions. I mean, look, Tiger and Bear I think
live together. They could throw at any time. You'd expect
the chemistry to be off the charts with Bear and
Tiger right especially going into year two. But game planning
also is a part of that too. I wouldn't be
surprised if Reggie really takes a big step forward as well.
I think Reggie could take a really big step forward.
Speaker 3: Once again.
Speaker 4: Big body, he can run, he's got great routes. He's
kind of a Chase Roberts type, and he's coachable.
Speaker 3: Best. We went out and got this kid from Web.
Speaker 4: You know, he entered the portal and and Reggie came
to Brigham was fantastic at SNOW. We've had Zach Erickson
on the on the line many times talking Reggie FRISHCNNET.
So right now, I would say my two leaders are
actually Jojo and Reggie. I'm gonna go either Jojo and Reggie,
but I really like to take on on Walker as
being kind of a flex tight end wide receiver, and
I think that I think actually the hottest tak is
you saying, Jaron Puola, I think it's like in Fuego,
like my The only and the only reason I think
that is because like there's not a clear cut good
answer on this team.
Speaker 3: I agree with you about Jojo.
Speaker 6: I think Jojo has the highest ceiling of anybody in
this wide receiver room. But to the same point it
made about Tiger, I think he has the lowest floor
because you just never know what you're gonna get. Like
he has the easiest path to get like one hundred
and fifty yards in two touchdowns, but it's just a
matter of like will he do that. He's the most talented,
but he's not necessarily the most developed. I certainly think
it could be Jojo Phillips, and if I was a
betting man in Vegas, I think that's the safest bet.
But I also think last year Bear Bachmeyer approved that,
like not everything is a guarantee. Maybe, and wide receiver
I think is an easier place to get reps at
as a freshman than quarterback is. I think Jared Pool
is a freak athlete. He's a four star for a reason.
I think he could do it.
Speaker 4: The guy that should be on this BAU football roster
goes by the name of Gatlin Bear. He's got off
the mission. He's at Oregon LDS kid in his high school.
You know, his high school senior season in Bertley, Idaho,
he has seventy three receptions over a thousand yards and
eighteen touchdowns.
Speaker 3: That's the guy.
Speaker 4: If he that was his junior year, I think I
don't even know if I have his updated senior stats
that was his junior year. I think he surpassed that
his senior year significantly. So that's who I would love
to see on this roster. That you don't have a
guy like Gatlin Barr. I mean he was running a
uh like a ten to time.
Speaker 6: Correct me if I'm wrong, But I'm pretty sure there's
already two organ transfers on this team.
Speaker 3: Don't worry, we'll get him, We'll get just not here yet.
From the data I'm looking at, it says we just
got to I'm sure we'll get enough. Let's get another one.
Let's get in and another one.
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, isn't a big twelve tournament right around
the corner, DJ Khaled, I know, and another and and
we're trying another one. We've been discussing Ronald and I
whether or not we're sending him out.
Speaker 3: And after the last game just keeps just keeps.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to send you out there,
but just going for the party in the big No.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, ron works, I work hard.
Speaker 3: Party with DJ call, I would.
Speaker 2: Play hard after I get up my work done. This
is true. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm as I've gotten older now and once it gets
to like ten o'clock, I'm like a sweet treat in
some milk and go to bed.
Speaker 3: Ron. You're doing it for that, You're doing it for
the boots on the ground journalism to hang out.
Speaker 2: This is true job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but here's the thing when I when I when
you get sent out with Ben, you know there's certain
you have to you have to make sure that you
hit the s ops.
Speaker 2: And me, I'm from Chicago. I like the party. If
I get too much party, I don't work and I
lose my job.
Speaker 6: So that party is a part of the work. Ron,
it's a Big twelve event going to something.
Speaker 2: But see, but that's the thing, like you see Brett,
you know me, but you don't know me.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: We talked about this, remember when I invited you and
your wife to the club.
Speaker 6: Choice is at a Big twelve sponsored event. Ron, this
is just asking you to go ask DJ. I know,
but I might be YU is his favorite team in
the Big twel You're right, I.
Speaker 2: Can do that. I can do the Capitol J. Ben
just might not like that.
Speaker 5: If he looks at ESPN he sees me next to
DJ Khaled dancing, like, wait a second, he's don't think
you get.
Speaker 3: DJ Khaled at the Big Twelve Tournament. I don't think
Ben's gonna have any problem with it. I'll be fine
with it. Okay, good quote from DJ.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'll get a good quote. I'll corner him like
a corner the commission of your mark.
Speaker 3: That is what I do do.
Speaker 5: He avoids me now when he sees me, he makes
But I don't know if I told the story at
the pop Tarts Bowl. You know, Ben, I like the
press because they the pop Tarts bout. I don't let
you on the field, So I'll talk to the lady
in charge, talk to the men got access you know,
to the field for like, you know, a good like
seven to eight minutes. And I stopped commissioning your mark
and I shook his hand. I said a few words,
and he said I walked off. He knows not to
talk to me because I'm looking for answers.
Speaker 2: But that's what you do. You you don't know until
he asked the question. That's all I'll say on that.
Speaker 5: But I need boy, you to win the last three
games because otherwise I'll be doing more spring ball covering
than uh the Big twelve Tournament cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta I gotta have to. I gotta have
a belief that this team can actually win.
Speaker 2: They win the last two games, I think Ben will believe.
But if they lose, it's over.
Speaker 3: Let's go to break. Guys.
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Speaker 5: I just have to say that because I know the
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Speaker 3: Ron. This is all rot. Man.
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Speaker 4: But anyway, all right, let's get into some cougar sports contents,
shall we. Lots of news and notes coming out of
Brigham Young University. I do want to give big cougar
war to Jack Kelly if I may. Jack Kelly balled
out at the NFL Combine ran a four five seven forty.
Speaker 3: He had a ten to five broad jump. Uh.
Speaker 4: He had a seven point one two three cone and
a four point one nine pro agility.
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know really if he could.
Speaker 4: Have done any better in any one of these these
uh these individual events. Uh.
Speaker 3: His raw score off the charts.
Speaker 4: He's top sixty all time in raw athletics score per
Matt or Matt Platty.
Speaker 3: Uh the math bomb who created.
Speaker 4: Relative of Athletics where he's got data going all back
to nineteen eighty seven, at all the NFL combines from
all the NFL combines and Pro Day, so pretty impressive work.
Speaker 3: Did you did we think that he was this athletic?
Speaker 4: Did we think the Juggernaut was this athletic that he
would be a top sixty all time.
Speaker 3: Linebacker edge in the NFL combine? We call him the Juggernaut,
don't we.
Speaker 4: What I'm getting at is like I thought he was athletic,
and I thought he would like you guys heard me.
I'm like, he's gonna improve his draft stock. I was
pretty consistent that I didn't know he'd be top sixty
all time. It does feel like over three thy two
hundred names of.
Speaker 2: H that's crazy. I didn't think that.
Speaker 3: You know, you guys who go to the combine like
they just do well.
Speaker 6: Like remember when Blake Freeland like basically shattered records for
offensive life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Blake did good.
Speaker 4: He had like a I want to say, he had
like a thirty six thirty seven eight vertical at six eight,
three hundred and twenty pounds or something like that.
Speaker 3: That's absurd stuff. Freak man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like the I think BYU players get
a bad rap for not being athletic.
Speaker 3: I wonder why that is.
Speaker 4: I don't know, what do you think they're like they're
just lunch pale guys, the lunch pail guys, Christine type
of guys, hardest worker on the field, those type of guys.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's why they don't they but they have
old man's strength. Yeah, and they have kids and the strollers.
The competitive advantage with the with the strollers in their car.
Bill self, oh man, just crazy crazy anyway. So I
thought he'd do well.
Speaker 4: I didn't think he'd do this well, like I thought
he'd do well, but top sixty, I didn't know he
was that fast, that quick side to side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that may be the most surprising.
Speaker 4: I thought he would do well in the forty as
I mentioned, I thought he could go. I think he could,
you know, get sub for six, which he did, and
that correlates with his top end speeding.
Speaker 3: His get off.
Speaker 4: Like I thought he'd do well in the vert like
I honestly, the vert, I thought he would be like
thirty three, thirty four, not thirty seven.
Speaker 3: That's tremendous.
Speaker 4: And then ten five broad that's really good. I would
have said, probably in the low tens or right at ten.
So Philicie, that is mister Jack Juggernaut Kelly really good performance,
and I think he improved his draft stock by a
day uh in maybe a few rounds. So I can't
wait to see what happens with Jack Kelly having improved
his draft stock. I mean, what's crazy is I think
that the insane thing is that I don't even know
if he was top ten in the forty from the
edge and linebackers.
Speaker 3: I mean he was. He was good. He was. He
was he top ten in the in the in the forty, Yes,
he was, he was. He was top ten.
Speaker 4: I was like, looking at it, Okay, so sunny styles.
R Vel Reese both ran a four four six, Caleb
alarms Or ran a four four seven, Anthony Hill Junior
ran a four five one. Kyle Lewis and nomdi Obea
Zor ran a four to five to three. Carson Sharrar
ran a four to five to six, Justin Jefferson, Jack
Kelly and Jacob Rodriguez ran a four five seven, So
he was like tied for like seven to eighth, right,
so he's in the top ten.
Speaker 3: He was, like, you know, right in there. So that's awesome.
Top ten linebacker edge.
Speaker 4: Jacob Rodriguez also, U, I mean, obviously a great player
now Jacob was a little bit better than the three cone.
He had the best three cone, uh and and he
had a thirty eight and a half inch vertical Jacob
Rodriguez had.
Speaker 3: How insane? Is that insane?
Speaker 4: The member shout out to uh yeah in the six
nine three cone, which is tremendous between the pro agility
four one nine six nine zero thirty eight and a
half inch vertical.
Speaker 3: These are good numbers for safeties, guys. These are good numbers.
Speaker 4: Like that's a good it's a solid number for like
a long at like long corner, you know, not necessarily
like a bump and run you know, ten five, you
know four four four four three corner, but like a
playmaking corner, like a big bodied corner. Anyway, I want
to talk to you guys about this with springball. Now,
let me transition here.
Speaker 3: If there was a.
Speaker 4: Former BYU football safety that you could choose from that
played in the NFL to come back and coach at
BYU this year, who would it be and why?
Speaker 3: The reason why I'm bringing this up is my concern.
Speaker 4: Yesterday we talked about our concerns heading into springball, right,
I said, okay, if I have any concerns I'm like, Okay,
I don't I don't know Damrio Warren, I have trusted him.
I don't know Lewis Clark, I don't know. I don't
know what the secondary is going to look like. J Hill,
Gavin Fowler, and uh Gennar Guildford. Your entire secondary coaches,
they're gone. He's at Michigan, Gennor's at Michigan, and Gavin's
at Weaver State.
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you're talking about drop off, even though.
Speaker 4: You didn't lose guys, you didn't lose the personnel, you
lost coaches. How good will the secondary be and how
can you maybe backfill some of those positions and make
sure guys are happy, feel like they're getting developed, they're
getting they're getting better technique wise. Who would it be
and why that you could bring in from the NFL
or formerly of the NFL and uh maybe mentor these
these young bucks in the secondary. Because you got Raider,
you got Fola, Tile, you got Tommy, you got Cannon Debrees.
I think moving back to safety, you got a lot
of you got a lot of guys back there that
need some mentorship.
Speaker 3: I put out a poll.
Speaker 4: These are the four options that I gave you Aaron
Francisco Dog played in the league for a while Indianapolis Colts,
Arizona Cardinals. Andrew Rich played for the Arizona Cardinals. Danny
Sorenson played for most recently the Northern Saints, also with
Kansas City. Undrafted free agent played in the league for
a bit really good player. Kai Nakua has played in
the NFL. Eventually moved to linebacker, but was one of
the best safeties in BLEA football history. Who do you
got out of those four?
Speaker 3: And why? Ah? This is not what I have thought
a lot about. To be quite honest with you, I'd
probably go Sorenson just because.
Speaker 4: That guy feels like he extended his career a lot
longer than he should have. But he played pretty deep
into his age, Yeah, which tells you like he he
didn't rely on his athleticism to be successful, like he
relied on technique and reading the game and reading the field.
So would probably be Sorenson for me. Danny Sowrenson coming
in on my Poll of the Day at seventy point
six percent.
Speaker 3: As a favorite. Ronnie, is that where you stand too?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That guy?
Speaker 5: Look it's tough, right because the answer is gonna be
Danny Swarnson, But I wish you could have a mixture
been because if you're taking the two type of safeties,
that b what you has in the free in the
strong safety room, it's Danny Swarrenson and kind of Kua
Kai just wasn't a ball hawk. You got guys in
their safety room who are ball hawks, right, volatile ballhawk.
But he also can light you up like Kai Nakool
Like he can lower his shoulder if he wants and
blow yo, you know what up. But you got guys
like you know, Dirty dam who are very technical, right,
watch a lot of tape, watch a lot of film,
don't get beat like Tommy tommikin lit would don't want
to say that he can, but you're not gonna beat him.
His technique is forwark, his hips place, you know, his
speed is iq ability.
Speaker 2: You got a mixture between those two. So it's those
two for me.
Speaker 5: I know people probably gonna go with Danie Swarnsaw, which
is not a bad answer but at all. But I
think kind of Koa in the college game. I think
just the type of football he player was that was
a great football player, and I think those two could
coach up because I see their skill sets the most
in this BYU safety room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, there's no wrong answer here.
Speaker 4: I think there'd be a lot of people that would
love to see kind of Kua with his experience in
the Dakua family. You got Tay there, Puka, you know,
bring back into Kua, keep keep them connected to BYU,
et cetera.
Speaker 3: But the favorite right now is Danny Sorenson.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can go wrong in any of
these any of these fronts, but Danny would.
Speaker 3: Be a boon.
Speaker 4: And now, like the reason why I bring this up
because I've been here in rumblings that there could be
a former BYU safety that has played in the NFL
that's coming back to coach at b YU.
Speaker 3: I don't know what role.
Speaker 4: I don't know what a fashion. I don't know if
it's just kind of being around the program. But could
be a mentor, could be a developer, could be a
boon for BYU this twenty twenty six season.
Speaker 3: So it would be fantastic to have that.
Speaker 4: Just from a credibility standpoint, Like some some players like
to really focus on their individual deve development outside of
the scheme. You got your scheme obviously, and then you
have your your individual development and how you execute that scheme,
how you execute your technique. You need both as well
as great strengthening conditioning, mobility pliability to maximize your athleticism
as a defensive back being a multidirectional backwards runner, that's
what you are. You're moving side to side of backwards
more than you're running forward typically, So you got to
have it dialed. You got to have it pristine. Guys,
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Congrats to Wes Johnson. Wesley Johnson he has been named
the assistant cornerbacks coach next to Lewis Clark, so that
was a nice retention to remember. Evan Johnson is the
younger brother of Wes Johnson. Wes Johnson has been i
think a graduate assistant maybe analysts the last couple of
years at BYU, and so Wes Johnson I'm sure played
his expanded role and being there at BYU maybe he
had played has played a role in retaining Evan Johnson.
So big news for BYU and congrats to Wes Johnson
I'm being named cornerbacks coach.
Speaker 3: Obviously, today is the first day of spring bals.
Speaker 4: We'll probably find out a little bit more about this
BA Cougar football team and the coaching staff here in
the next couple of hours.
Speaker 3: And another thing I thought was interesting.
Speaker 4: BA Football posted about two days ago that they are
executing a walk on virtual tryout for punters and long snappers.
You send your film to BAU Football Specialist at gmail
dot com and these are the details here. Okay, so
you gotta be a current BA student enrolled in twelve
plus credits for the winter semester. You email your film
to BA Football Specialists at gmail dot com include in
your email, name, phone number, and proof of full time enrollment.
Punters must submit submit ten pocket punts and ten roll
out punts. Long Snappers must submit ten punt snaps and
ten field goal snaps. Film must be recent. If you
do not have film from the last few weeks, please
record and submit new footage this week.
Speaker 3: Submit film asaptop.
Speaker 4: Punter and long snapper will have the opportunity to join
the team for springball beginning Friday, February twenty seven.
Speaker 3: They get to be there today. Man, the best punch everything.
It's like a dream come true.
Speaker 4: Like some like high school long snapper, high school punter.
That thought is his football career was done. He got
into BYU and he's like.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, there's tryouts, that's go. Let's go.
Speaker 4: Oh could you imagine, Like let me say you were
you were a really really good basketball player. You're like,
you know, you try out, maybe you make the team.
Maybe you're Jared McGregor just getting buckets on the on
Aja Bonsa and rob Ryde and Richie. You're like, I'm
the fourteenth leading scorer on this bou basketball team, You
son of a motherless go fourteenth. I'm actually I'm ranked.
Speaker 3: Baby. Did you see the Jared McGregor highlight film. By
the way, it's pretty good. He's got a really quick release.
Good shoar. We want McGregor. We want McGregor anyway.
Speaker 4: And then also from a scheduling standpoint, this is something
that we put out just a little bit ago.
Speaker 3: I think ESPN has.
Speaker 4: Prognosticated the biggest games on BYU football schedule, all team schedules, right,
he's been doing every powerful team's most of fighting game
for twenty twenty six. BYUS is Notre Dame, the fighting
Iris is what they had to say October versus Notre Dame.
If BOA wants to prove it belongs with the big boys,
this is as close to a must win game as
it will play. It would have been an appetizing consolation
Bowl game last season after both teams narrowly missed the playoff,
but here it could serve as a potential springboard to
the playoff in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: That's Kyle Bondagura. Any other thoughts there.
Speaker 4: If BYU wants to prove it belongs with the big boys, Okay,
well that just that.
Speaker 3: Just tell me what your bias is. Go look at
Klawne's record over the last five years. Go look at
the fact.
Speaker 4: To BO, he has been the first team to not
make the playoffs last couple of years. Just just tell
me what your bias is, brother, Kyle. I'm offended. I
am offended. How dare you?
Speaker 3: He is right though? If you o he wins that game,
it's like a springboard in the playoffs. It's a big one. Yeah,
it's a big one. You know, it's a big one.
It would actually only count as a quality loss for
Notre Dame, and Bo you would be left out, sorry, exactly.
Speaker 4: Quality loss for Notre Dame, though fire riers would be
you know, quality loss, very quality loss, the most quality loss.
Speaker 3: Alright, guys, that's our