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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by Fan Tracks. Here's

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Jim Kings, your source of information and analysis to help

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you win your fantasy hockey league. Block off hot a

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step hit on, Stay lock.

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Speaker 2: Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier and Victor Nuno.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Life. Jesse Severe with you, Victor Nuno with you,

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Victor of the Many Places, the Dabber, the mckeans. How

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you doing today, buddy.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I see I'm today. I'm a mckeens man.

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And why are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, man, that's right. You're more McKean than Michael. Yeah,

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I'm doing great. I'm doing great, talking a little bit

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of fantasy hockey. I'm by the time people listen to

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this night, we always record a couple of days earlier.

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By the time you listen to this will be in

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the Olympics break. I think Olympic Games will be going.

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We don't know how that's going to go yet. I

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always gripe about this every year that I don't like

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not having my fantasy hockey matchups for the next month.

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But I'll probably also come and be watching the Olympics

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and be into all that. But come on, Victor. We

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got our own Olympic pool though, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Olympic pools going. We actually had so

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much interest. I think we opened we had I think

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A through D or E initially, and then we had

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to open all the way up through G because a

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lot of people wanted to do it. And yeah, we

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got a fun format. We decided to make sure that

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you had someone from at least ten different countries, which

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kind of makes it a little bit more interesting because

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there's definitely like Italy, France, Latvia who aren't going to

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be as interesting, but it should be good and it

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gives you a little something extra to root for. I

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in one of my pools, I ended up taking the

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Team USA goalies, so I will be of course a

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little bit more on edge on those games.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you got to take ten countries out of the

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twelve picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you didn't know that, then we might

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be in trouble.

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Speaker 3: It's okay. I actually took Mero Hayskin into the second round,

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which that's probably gonna work out then because I got

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my thin and I got one of the power play types.

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Hopefully that will be helpful. But yeah, now I'm gonna

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have to be careful taking Canadians and Americans and Swedes.

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But yeah, so I see somebody took Romaniosi in the

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second round. How often are you going to see a

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Swiss player taken in the second round? But it makes

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perfect sense, all right, Victor.

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Speaker 2: That's part of what makes it interesting. And I think

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and we ended up opening another pool I needed to

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jump in. So I ended up taking dry Sidle in

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the first round, which maybe not that surprising, but taking

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a German first really opens up your options after that

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because they have some decent players, but they're certainly, like

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you said, if we didn't limit this, it would be

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all Canada, US and probably some Sweden sprinkle in, with

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maybe a few other individual players, but not that many

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from each country. So this made it a little bit

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more challenging and a little bit more interesting because you

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might end up taking some French player that you're cheering

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card for, which could.

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Speaker 3: Be end up being one yeah la Fronce. Okay, Victor,

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let's get into this episode. We've got a lot to

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talk about, so right after this we're going to be

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back to talk proscos. Victor, this is another edition of

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Dynasty Stockwatch. I need a theme song for that, I

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don't know. I don't have one yet, but I'll come

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up with one someday. Today is going to be all

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about Colorado and Nashville, two systems that I don't know it.

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They've got a lot of interesting guys to talk about,

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although neither one of these systems I think is regularly

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accused of being at the top of the NHL. Were

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you happy writing up these teams?

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Speaker 2: It was definitely challenging for the Avalanche, I will say

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they didn't have as many interesting guys, but the Nashville ones,

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there's some. They have some, a couple of high end

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guys and then a couple of just really guys that

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are in interesting places like don't know which way they're

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going to go, which I think makes perfect for discussion,

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like we're going to do.

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Speaker 3: Here absolutely, So let's start with Colorado, and it has

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to start with Ily and a back off. He was

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the first goalie selected in the twenty twenty four draft.

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His third year in the KHL. This year hasn't been

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quite as good as his first two full seasons. He

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had a cameo the year before that, so it's actually

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his fourth year, but his same percentage is down a

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little bit. It was nine to twenties, nine to thirty before.

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Now it's down to around nine hundred. But his team

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is running away with it, and he is the overwhelming

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goalie for that team. He was forty six, thirty and

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nine the previous two years in his starts, the team

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was that is and this year they're twenty and four

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at last count. When not Nabakov is on the ice,

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Magneta Gords is running away with the regular season. He's

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actually been signed to an ELC. He's over in the

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KHL on a loan. He's not still under a KHL

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full on contract. So Colorado's got a good goalie situation

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going on right now with Blackwood and Wedgwood, but they're

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gonna have to make a decision on this guy. No

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need to rush, but the ELC is ticking here and

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he's already going on twenty three victor. We have the

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NHL Rankking poll, as we always do, in Bakoff versus

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Simeon Froloff, who is a Carolina Hurricanes prospect and was

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actually the first goalie taken. I believe he was the

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first goalie taken last year. Now, maybe not the first goalie,

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but he was taken in a similar place early second

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round in the draft, and Bahkoff wins this one significantly

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sixty five to thirty five percent. Is this the deal?

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Speaker 2: Is the back Off the real deal between these two?

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I would definitely taken bok Off. I think that, and

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not just because he has a name of And by

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the way, in case you're wondering, he's not related to

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if getting to back Off, who shared the same last

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name sim spelling the last name, but they are not related.

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It is he has been really good for a few

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seasons now, and you mentioned that his numbers slipping a

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little bit. His row numbers are slipping, He's still his

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like goal save above expact, and his underlying metrics still

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look the stellar and his team is really good, as

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you mentioned. And I think his contract situation also makes

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him more appealing because he can come over at any time.

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Simeon Froloff, on the other hand, has a contract that

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runs through the twenty six twenty seven seasons, so at

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the earliest, Froloff could come over in the twenty seven

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to twenty eight season, which frankly probably still wouldn't even

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happen because he is still playing in the NHL and

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actually he got he's injured right now, but he hasn't

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played any KHL games, which is an interesting situation that

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they took him. And by the way, you were asking

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where he was in the goalie rank, I pulled it up.

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He or not the rank, but the order. He was

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the third goalie taken in twenty twenty five. It was Andreanoff, Ravensbergen, Frollof,

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Medvedev Ivankovich, so there was a few us. It was

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the third one early in the first early in the

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second round. But Frolloff is far away from being relevant.

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I definitely would want to see him at least get

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some HL or VHL KHL starts, and probably a season

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or two of that before he even entertained coming over,

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but I think that Frolloff still has decent upside, got

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good size and mobility. But I think it's just there's

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no way I would take him over in a Bakoff

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who is able to come over at any moment. And

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I think if the Avalanche hadn't had such great success

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with their goalies this year, between Blackwood and Wedgwood. I

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think that they might have entertained trying to bring him

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over a little bit earlier, but at this point there's

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absolutely no rush and he couldn't come over any time.

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I'm looking at the hockey prospecting between these two, and

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the Bokoff has a ninety two percent chance of being

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an NHLer, which has steadily climbed from twenty nine to

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fifty six to seventy nine to ninety two in the

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past three seasons four seasons, and froll Off is stagnant

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at twenty three percent, and part of that is just

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because he's just played in the MHL and hasn't had

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a big sample size and hasn't played any more difficult league.

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So I would definitely taken the block off here, and

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I think he's someone you should be excited about because

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he does profile as a future starter. And how much

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longer are they going to have Blackwood in Wedgwood, I

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don't know. Right now, it seems fine, and it seems

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for the near future they probably will be interested in

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continuing that, but I don't know that it's gonna that

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either of those is the for sure guy years and

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years down the road. Blackwood is signed for four more

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seasons after this, and Wedgwood just won, but neither one

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of them seem like an insurmountable hill to climb.

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Speaker 3: I would say, let's move on to a guy who

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I feel like we've been talking about for a few years.

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I want to say Sean Bearns might have been in

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one of our earliest years that we covered the draft together,

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Victor and feels like somebody who's drafted all the way

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back in twenty twenty one should have passed their twenty

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third birthday by right by now, but Barns has not. Instead,

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he's got reasons for not making the NHL scene too hard.

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Speaker 2: Yet.

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Speaker 3: He had a great run at NCAAA Powerhouse Denver, and

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after being ready for a full season in twenty four

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to twenty five in the AHL, he tore in ACL

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missed the whole year. Now he's in Colorado the Eagles

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for the AHL, but his production is not necessarily elite

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new but at least we can say something could still

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break as he rounds into an HL groove for the

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first time before he gets his shot to the NHL

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ABS remained a very tough place to break in, as

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if you're going to try to be an offensive defenseman

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at that place anyway, for reasons that almost can go unmentioned.

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And so in the NHL ranking poll he goes up

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against Blake Fiddler of the Seattle Kraken, and that oil's

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king prospect. Fiddler, who was just drafted last year early

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in the second round, has produced very well in his

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D plus one. He comes out ahead in this poll

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sixty five to thirty five percent.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Victor, I think that it makes sense.

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you're a little bit more open to the possibilities what

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he could be. I'm just not sure that he's all

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that exciting or interesting. He does seem more likely to

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have a clear path to the NHL. Has got good

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size and mobility, He's got good blood lines there, and

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I think that he should thrive in that. I just

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don't know that he's going to put up a lot

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of points or be that exciting if he does make it.

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I don't know about you, Jesse, but one of the

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things that I dislike the most is getting really excited

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about a player holding them forever and ever, and then

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they finally arrive and they're just a dud. Would just

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rather not have even held them at all. It's like,

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why did I even do that? And I just feel

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like Big Fiddler might end up being that guy that

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is a little bit disappointing once he does arrive, because

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I think there's no doubt he is going to play Baron's.

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On the other hand, he is you chronicle some of

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his issues. He's had injuries, and since turning pro, we

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finally have seen him though the AHL We've been waiting

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for a long time because he was great in college,

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fantastic in college, but what was he going to do

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once he turned pro? And it turns out that some

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of the data is mixed, Like he some of his

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play driving has been okay, some of it has struggled,

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and he is generating some decent amount of expected goals

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and scoring chances. I think some of his defending has

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been a challenge, and he is still slightly undersized at

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five to ten and that's always going to be his challenge.

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So I want to pick him, but I do think

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that maybe just picking Fiddler and kicking the can down

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the road a little bit and saying maybe he'll develop

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more offense or some of these guys that just skate

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so well and have all the physical tools end up

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just putting it together later anyways, or at least being

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serviceable enough that they're interesting. So I guess I would

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a league where I really wanted someone to jump in

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and contribute as quickly as possible, then I probably would

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lean Barons because he could get called up at any moment.

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He's in the AHL, and all it would take is

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a few injuries and then they might dip down into

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their HL poll. And he's got twelve points in twenty

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nine games so far this season, so it's not terrible.

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He's close to that half point per game mark. It's

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not nothing. The hockey prospecting between the two, Barons graduated

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eighteen percent chance of being a star and Fiddler is

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at ten, and so there's definitely more star potential when

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he graduated for Baron's. We'll see what Fiddler does. He's

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definitely made a great jump from the US. He was

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at the NTDP and then he went to THEA did

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the WHL for the Oil Kings last season, but he

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was around half point per game this season, he's jumped

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up above that, and so he's getting close to that

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point seventy five points per game mark, which is pretty good.

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He's getting a little bit more power play time. I

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have his Fantasy Hockey Life skater card here, and the

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thing that Fiddler is always going to be great at

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his transition. His transition data is just impeccable, Like he

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is all green looking fantastic. He's pretty good at loose

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puck recovery and play driving. His bash is actually pretty

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decent too, eighty first percentile, So even if he doesn't

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end up scoring a lot, he should have pretty decent

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floor In terms of someone who's somewhat serviceable and in

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a deeper league, if you're talking like thirty two team leagues,

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Blake Fitler is definitely someone I would prefer because he's

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just so likely to make it and give you something back,

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some return on that investment. But in a more shallow league,

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I'd be I'd have a little bit more discretion.

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Speaker 3: Jesse, Yes, sir, Moving on Max Million Curran of the

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Colorado Avalanche O, what's current? Is it Kuran? Victor? Is

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it Curran?

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Speaker 2: It's I think it's Koran.

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Speaker 3: Okay Kuran, and that means more Edmonton Oil Kings. Baby

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Max is looking great at the ninety at the nineteen

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year old D plus two season, averaging a point and

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a quarter, not bad for a fifth round pick. He

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had a goal and two assists in Chechia's semi final

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upset of Team Canada at the U twenties, so he's

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performed at a big stage. And he wasn't a late

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round pick because he was small, so because he's a

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strapping six three poet eighty seven listed on Elite Prospects.

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He's up in the poll this week against Cole McKinney,

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who we've talked about a little bit recently, and Cole

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McKinney gets the better of Kuran seventy to thirty percent.

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We just got done talking about McKinney Victor, and apparently

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people are still psyched about him. Is this the right result?

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Does Koran deserve more respect than this?

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Speaker 2: I think he deserves more of respect than thirty percent

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of the vote. Yeah, And we did see him at

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the World Juniors. He was actually pretty good five point

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seven games. He was noticeable at times. Everyone on that

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Chechia team I think a punch a bit above their weight,

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and he was definitely one who was who had some

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flashes of brilliance. I think part of the reason people

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are maybe a little unsure about him is he was

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he did come over, played in check Yeah, then came

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to the WHL, had a really good first season there

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and was actually he played for Tri City, which is

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maybe one of the less noticeable places to play. But

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this season for the Oil Kings, as you mentioned, he's

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been great and he's off to the NAA for UMass

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next season. His trajectory has been pretty nice and he's

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definitely someone who in terms of the offense, I think

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that he has a lot to give there and I

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think he just maybe needs a little bit more maturity.

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He's literally like two weeks away from being eligible for

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the twenty five draft, and that was That's part of

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the reason why he might be part of the reason

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why he went so late, because he went in the

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fifth round. His first WHL season was pretty ambivalent, but

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if you regress everything back a year, he looks a

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lot more exciting. And so that's important to think about

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when you look at these metrics, because they can't really

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correct for the birth year. But when you're in the middle,

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it's not a big difference, but when you're only two

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weeks away, that's pretty close to being a flip of

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the calendar and everything being completely different. Because right now

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the hockey prospect in between these too. You got Karan

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at ten percent, McKinney at six percent, even with his

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strong NCAA season, So he's even higher now. But if

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you regress that a year, he would be probably in

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the thirties or so percent. I would imagine pretty high.

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And we talked about McKinney previously. I still think that

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he's a fine probably bottom six forward, penalty killer, maybe

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a center. And if he's a center, that's good for

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the team, not so good for you. In fantasy. You

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prefer those wingers so they can rise up to the

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top of the depth chart. And the thing that Karan

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has going in his favor, which I don't always like

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to consider this, but the depth chart for the Avalanche

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and the prospect pool is bleak. There are not a

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lot of good options, and so he's definitely one of

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the better ones. And if he was on a completely

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different team you would be you probably wouldn't be interested

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at all, but because of that, you're a little bit

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more interested. And I think he could find his way

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to some relevance, so I definitely have a little bit

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more interested in But even if he went to another team,

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I still think you should maintain some interest in Max Kuran.

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I think that he has super relevance there, and just

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looking at his WA, his transition data, and his other

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aspects from the Fantasy Hockey Life player card, he's looking

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pretty good. Transition data, good play, driving, really good on

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puck battles loose puck. His bash is also pretty solid,

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better than mckinny's. Actually, so these two I actually have

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ranked really close to each other in my Fantasy Hockey

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Life buck Stud rating, but I had a slight edge

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to Karan, And that's how I would actually vote here,

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because I think as a fantasy asset, I'm a little

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bit more interested in Kuran. If I was building an

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NHL team, I could see why McKenny wins so much earlier.

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Speaker 3: Jesse makes sense to me, Victor. Let's move on to

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our next comparison, and for this one, Mikhail Guyayev, he's

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the defenseman still plugging along in the KHL, isn't scoring

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much this year and never really has scored a ton.

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I note, as of my last check at ten games

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scoreless streak going for gu Yayev. He's also playing depth

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minutes over in the KHL, eight to thirty minutes a game.

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We've proven lately that which we've proven lately that doesn't

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mean a death sentence if you're over there and people

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are thinking you might go over to the NHL eventually.

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But certainly Goliaev is for whatever reason, getting only death minutes.

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He is up in the NHL ranking poll, up against

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Owen Pickering, another longtime frequent flyer on our poles. Of course,

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the Penguins defenseman prospect drafted in twenty twenty two, who

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we've speculated might have more cups of coffee. He's had

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a couple of cups of coffee, but not enough to

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get jittery, and he's back down in the AHL right now,

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Goliai have wins the poll here sixty to forty percent.

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Feels like expectations are dropping for Pickering, who's not scored

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a whole lot when he has been in the NHL.

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But which one of these two do you like better,

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Victor Gliae or Pickering?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is definitely one of those where I would

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want neither, frankly, But if I had to pick one,

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I would pick Pickering, not just because the illiteration and

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it's fun to say, but I, as you outlined, or

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as you mentioned briefly, Mikil Guiev has just never scored.

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He just that's not his thing. He never really I

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guess he did was a bit of a score in

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the NHL, but that didn't really translate. And he has

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thirty one total points, which would be great if it

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were in one season, but he has thirty one points

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in one hundred and eighty three games over four seasons

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in the KHL. That is not good and does not

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really project for him being a scorer when he comes

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over to the NHL. So I don't think Guliav is

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going to score. So then you have to ask yourself,

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what else is he going to do? Is he bashed? Yeah,

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he's a decent basher. Actually he's bashing at eighty six

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percentile for the KHL. He shoots a fair amount, he

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blocks a ton, and his hits are a little bit

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below average. So he will be someone who you're decent,

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you can hold somewhat in a peripherals format. If you

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were in a really deep league, I probably would prefer

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Guli have just because he seems pretty likely to play.

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He's been playing the KHL for years and doing and

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at least getting decent minutes. But I'm very skeptical that's

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going to continue. Pickering has been in the AHL, and

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he actually was. He actually made the team the past

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two seasons, played some NHL time and that was looking

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pretty good. And more recently he's been in the AHL

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with these surprising Penguins who are actually seem like they

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might even be good this year. I don't know, it's weird,

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but he didn't stick around in the NHL. He's been

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close to half point per game in the AHL, which

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is certainly better than with Kel Glee, I can say

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in the KHL, and those two leagues are roughly pretty

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similar actually in terms of their difficulty AHL and KHL.

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So I would give the nod here to Pickering and

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just look the other way and hopefully find a better option.

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But if I had to choose between these two, I

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would pick Pickering.

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Speaker 3: Jesse picking Pickering. I get it, Victor. It's something has

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to be done sometimes. Danielle Gushin is the next guy

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up here. After great numbers for HL San Jose last

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year and even had twelve games in the show with

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the Sharks. He was on my radar, man, I thought

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this guy was all over it, But he has been

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traded to Colorado. He seems to be adjusting to the

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elevation because he's got twelve goals four assists for sixteen

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points in twenty seven games. That did twelve goals and

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only four assists. That's that's a ratio right there.

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Speaker 2: Kids.

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Speaker 3: I see a right winger who scored three times as

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many goals versus assists, and I think, oh, I forget,

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it's Gushin, a big power forward. Nope, he's five eight.

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But that's what he does, is he scores goals. And

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so we're gonna put him up against Sasha pasta yofv

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Pasta Jov of the Anaheim Ducks here, and Gushin has

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fallen from great heights and is down to a sixty.

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It's a sixty seven to thirty three split for Pastadyaofv

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over Gushchin. So the other guy's taller and more productive.

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Is he really the bet for future fantasy production? And

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what's your opinion of Gushin these days?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think this is another one of those where

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frankly I don't think you want either of these guys.

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I think gushen Stock has fallen tremendously. He seemed like

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he was on the verge. He got some games there,

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but it's one of those things where they all around

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compete level and the trust in all situations and are

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you hard to play against and all those kinds of

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things just weren't really there for him at the NHL

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level with the sample that he got, and I frankly

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think that he's probably on his last legs here in

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terms of his ability to make an impact in the NHL.

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He certainly seems good enough to be in the AHL

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or maybe he'll get at KHL or go over to Europe.

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He's just good enough at that level. But one of

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those tweener guys quad a guys who's not quite good

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enough to be impactful at the NHL level, And so

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as good as he's scored in the AHL, it does

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not seem like it's ever going to translate, so I

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would be less excited about him. Passajov is another guy

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who has been a little frustrating, although the big difference

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here is that he has not had repeated tryouts in

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the NHL that haven't gone well, so he's still waiting

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for that opportunity. He has been pretty decent for the

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goals the last couple of seasons. All the last season

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he was really good and this season a little less good.

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And I actually got to see him live when I

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went to a goals game and he was very invisible

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for large parts of the game, and then every once

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in a while he would do something fun and that's

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his mo and that's what might limit his translatability to

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the NHL is that he just he doesn't do a

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lot for large chunks of time and then he shows

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up and does something, but coaches off and don't like

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the part where you're invisible for that long. So that's

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going to make it a little bit hard for him.

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And looking at some of his Fantasy Caacular Life player card,

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you can see some issues with his game, like the

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fact that some of his defensive metrics and play driving

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aren't ideal. But some of it has been pretty decent

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and he does actually shoot and block a decent amount,

475
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,680
so there's some bash there which is nice. But yeah,

476
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,359
I think both of these guys are dead. The guys

477
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,079
that aren't that exciting.

478
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: Jesse, Well, let's see if we can peak your interest

479
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:10,880
with one more prospect from Colorado. They didn't develop him,

480
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,640
but they got him now. Gavin Brindley. He came to

481
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,640
Colorado from Columbus as part of the return for Charlie

482
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,799
Coyle and Miles Wood when Colorado was shuffling things around

483
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,319
last year. He only played in one game when he

484
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,599
was a Blue Jacket, but he's already drawn in at

485
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,960
last count forty times this year for the Abs. Evolving

486
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:32,119
Hockey suggests that he's been the team's worst even strength

487
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,799
defensive player, but he's only playing fourth line minutes. I

488
00:24:34,839 --> 00:24:36,799
don't know what's going on there in the gar Sometimes

489
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:40,359
it's a little weird. And considering he's a fourth line player,

490
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:44,599
he's actually scoring well for that nine points, and he's

491
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:47,240
got a few points in what he's doing. He's up

492
00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:50,920
in the NHL Rankking poll against David Edstrom, the traveled

493
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,559
prospect who was drafted by the Golden Knights and now

494
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,640
is playing for AHL Milwaukee and Victor. You will note

495
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,680
I am wear in my Milwaukee Admiral sweatshirt today. Apparently

496
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:07,680
I could just do that every week. So David Edstrom

497
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,440
versus Gavin Bridley. Gavin Brindley wins this complete whitewash eighty

498
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,720
three to seventeen percent. People have more confidence there. David

499
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:19,079
Edstrom's already been traded for Tomash Hurtle and euroslav Askarov

500
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240
in his young career, so he's got the he can

501
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,480
always tell his kids that, but he seems to be

502
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:25,680
no match for a guy who's already putting up results

503
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,680
in the NHL. Is Brindley over Edstrom at a considerable

504
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,279
distance going to be the way this looks in retrospect? Victor?

505
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so that Edstrom trade Tree is bonkers

506
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,240
man that just looking back on that, the fact that

507
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,400
he that the Sharks were able to send David Edstrom,

508
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,440
who I'm talking about in a second here, but basically

509
00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:50,759
I don't think he's anybody, and Magnus Crona, who is

510
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,960
also doesn't seem like he's going to be an impactful

511
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,079
NHL or and a first round pick who ended up

512
00:25:55,079 --> 00:25:58,799
being Riker Lee, who's a decent prospect, but that's what

513
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,559
they sent for what seems to be their future star

514
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:06,640
starting goalie. Crazy craziness. Anyways. Yeah, so within this pole,

515
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,400
I think it's definitely Gavin Brindley, just because he's already

516
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,519
in the NHL and he's playing and David Edstrom, I'm

517
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:16,640
not sure will so that seems pretty straightforward. He has

518
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,160
been Edstrom has been playing in the AHL, so he's

519
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:22,799
close proximity wise in that sense. But I don't think

520
00:26:22,839 --> 00:26:25,039
he's doing particularly well. He's one of these guys though

521
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:28,680
that's attractive. He's a center, he's big, he's physical, can

522
00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:30,559
be a little bit hard to play against. But also

523
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,119
I just don't think he's anything If he does make

524
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,599
it all the way, I don't think he's anything more

525
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,000
than like a fourth line center. Those are pretty replaceable generally.

526
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,480
There's usually guys that are close enough to being that

527
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:47,200
type of player. Britanley, Yeah, he's tiny, but he has

528
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:51,240
been playing in the NHL, which you know, certainly something

529
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,039
we said. He's played this whole season in the NHL,

530
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,079
which is surprising. As good as the Avalanche have been,

531
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,359
he only has eleven points in forty one games. He

532
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,200
hasn't gotten in on a lot of it. And look

533
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,079
at his evolving hockey metrics, they're pretty awful. His defensive

534
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,960
game is thirteen percentile, offense is twenty eighth percentile, So

535
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,119
he hasn't been able to be due to do that.

536
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:12,640
And if you look at the Fantasy Hockey Life skater

537
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,119
card for David Edstrom, there's some really mixed data on

538
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,920
his transition game, his play driving. He's as I mentioned,

539
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,839
he's physical, so he wins a lot of puck battles.

540
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,359
He doesn't really hit a lot, So if you're thinking

541
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,000
David Edstrom at least is going to hit a lot,

542
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:29,119
he does not. He only hits about thirty fifth percentile

543
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,279
for the AHL. He does block a lot, so that's

544
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,480
pretty much the only thing he does bash wise. He

545
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,559
doesn't shoot, he doesn't hit, but he blocks a lot,

546
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,319
So again, not something that's going to be super exciting.

547
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,319
So between these two, easily take Brindley. But also I

548
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,279
would really scale back your expectations for him because even

549
00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:48,759
though he's playing in the NHL, his underlying metrics are

550
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,440
not good, and those eleven points and forty games, he

551
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,319
seems like he just might end up being a twenty

552
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,920
point guy if he ends up sticking in the NHL.

553
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,720
That long twenty to thirty, which isn't that exciting.

554
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,559
Speaker 3: Very good, We're going to move on to Nashville in

555
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,200
the second half. Spoiler alert David eds From has already

556
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200
been covered, so he will not be again. Right back

557
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:21,640
after this break to talk more prospects on to the Predators,

558
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,079
Victor matthew Wood is the first one to discuss the

559
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,519
mid first rounder from just twenty twenty three jump from

560
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:32,359
Yukon to the Minnesota Golden Gropers all the way to

561
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,920
the Nashville Predators full time NHLer this year, and as

562
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,799
in dvanced stats, look really good. He's playing a depth

563
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,599
role on the team, but his points per minute are

564
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,279
in a dead heat with Roman Yosi. His goals above

565
00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:50,160
replacement are fourth on the team in terms of advanced stats,

566
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:53,960
right ahead of Steven stampcos so old Maddy Wood. He's

567
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,480
doing well for himself for a rookie, and he's going

568
00:28:57,519 --> 00:29:00,680
to go up in the NHL ranking poll against Daniel Boot,

569
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,200
who is doing real well with Ahl Tucson but is

570
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,200
not necessarily blown up in the NHL yet for the

571
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Mammoth they were drafted just three picks apart, and despite

572
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,240
Wood's nice showing so far this year in a depth role,

573
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,359
Boot wins the NHL ranking pool fifty four to forty

574
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,000
six percent. Victor, I feel like disrespect persists but Boot

575
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,079
has also played part of the year just as Wood

576
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,759
has played happier. Now, what do you think of this

577
00:29:28,119 --> 00:29:30,200
result Victor and these prospects.

578
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Well, I definitely would take Wood here. It's interesting that

579
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:39,440
Boot is that high, and sometimes I think people just

580
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,319
look at the PNHL, which clearly looks higher for Boot

581
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,279
right now this season, his PNHL is quite a bit higher.

582
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,759
But I think all in all, the upside for Matthew

583
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,400
Wood is much higher. He's definitely has been more of

584
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,039
a score. He's got an incredible shot, He's big, long

585
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:56,039
and lank, he can use his body well. He's still

586
00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,119
figuring how to use his body pretty well, which is nice.

587
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,440
In the hockey prospecting, they're pretty similar. I haven't mentioned

588
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,279
this yet, but I do look at the Advanced Hockey Stats,

589
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:11,400
which is the j Fresh model, and they have much

590
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,759
more love for Dinnal Boot here. He's at forty two

591
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:15,920
percent chance of being a star and Wood is only

592
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960
at nine percent. So that's interesting. So that kind of

593
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,759
maybe supports that a little bit more. But I think,

594
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:23,079
just to your point, if you look at the what

595
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,200
they've done in the NHL this season, and they both

596
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,160
had a decent number of games, impact wise, I could

597
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400
look at the time on ice, so Wood has almost

598
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,519
eight hundred minutes of total time on ice and Boot

599
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:36,880
has just over five Hundred's a little bit less for Boot,

600
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,200
but Matthew Wood is sixty six percentile for the entire

601
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:43,119
league and offense, so that's really good, and he's even

602
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:46,079
performing a little bit above expected, which is nice. His

603
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,759
defensive game not so good at sixteen percentile. That's what's

604
00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:51,559
limited a lot of his ice time, which makes sense.

605
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:53,480
And I have him in a couple of leagues where

606
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:56,200
I'm flexing him up and down, and he has had

607
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,119
some out purson goals and so that's always nice that

608
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,799
you can at least hope for a goal on his behalf.

609
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,880
Nine goals so far in forty five games is pretty nice.

610
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,519
He's just playing under twelve minutes. Boot, on the other hand,

611
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,119
is more of a defensive specialist. He has eighty six

612
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,039
percentile for defense and just twenty six percentle for offense,

613
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:14,759
so he's the inverse. To put these two together, you

614
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,680
got a pretty solid n Ehler there between the offense

615
00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:22,480
and defensive metrics. But obviously we're here to celebrate offense

616
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:25,160
a little bit more, and that's definitely what Boot has, sorry,

617
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,960
what would has. Boot is definitely more of a defensive guy,

618
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,720
and he's huge, And one of the things we always

619
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,240
said about Boot is, oh, he's he's this big guy

620
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:35,559
and hopefully he'll hit and use his body, but he

621
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920
doesn't really do that. He has sixteen hits in twenty

622
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,319
eight games. He's someone who uses his body well, but

623
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:43,440
he doesn't necessarily impose it physically. It doesn't hit a lot,

624
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640
a little bit like Alexai protests. I think that might

625
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,640
be the ideal outcome, or the best case outcome for

626
00:31:50,119 --> 00:31:52,319
what Boot could be someone like that, but I don't

627
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:54,200
know that he has the scoring upside to hit that.

628
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:57,000
Matthew Wood definitely can be a scorer. He's someone who

629
00:31:57,279 --> 00:31:59,519
should be able to hit thirty, maybe even forty goals

630
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:01,240
in this league if it all works out for him.

631
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,720
So I'm definitely taking Wood. It's nice to see Boot

632
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:07,519
get a little farther along, but I think he's someone

633
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,200
who's just a guy. I think he'll fit into that

634
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,119
middle six, whereas would could be an important piece on

635
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,960
a successful power play. So I'm taking him Jesse pretty easily.

636
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: Actually, Okay, very good. Let's move on to our next

637
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,079
prospect that's going to be Igor Sewerin. I can't wait

638
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,119
for this. I've been fired up about Sworing for years.

639
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,759
Remember there was that brief period where I was writing

640
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,240
Nashville prospects for Dobber and Cern was one of my

641
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,079
main squeezes in those times. Kid is just a burner.

642
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,759
His progress transitioning from the MHL to KHL seems great.

643
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,079
He's really stepped up in the KHL. He's still just

644
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:48,160
a teenager. He has another year under contract with the KHL,

645
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,079
so he's going to be there for the rest of

646
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:51,960
this year and next year. So it's going to be

647
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,559
a bit before he's in Nashville. But I'd say he's

648
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,759
in the top two of most promising forwards in this

649
00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,200
team system. We'll obviously get to the other one a

650
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,319
little bit later in this discussion. He goes in the

651
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,119
NHL ranking poll up against Liam green Tree of the

652
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,240
Los Angeles Kings, who's just a touch older and was

653
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,839
drafted just a touch later in the same draft round

654
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960
draft year you are. Serin wins in a narrow victory

655
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,599
in the NHL Ranking Poll fifty three forty seven, drafted

656
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:25,759
four picks later. Yeah, he's winning the drafted four picks earlier.

657
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,839
Surin wins this vote pearly prospects. Green Tree, by the way,

658
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,599
was the oldest player at the World Juniors. I looked

659
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:34,680
that up in terms of the guys of the World

660
00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:36,880
Junior Liam green Tree was there. He was the oldest

661
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
player in the tournament. Anyway, what do you think of

662
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,279
this comparison and these prospects.

663
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I definitely want sur In here. And

664
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,119
you mentioned his great KHL time. He's also really young

665
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:55,920
for this draft. He's in August first birthday, so as

666
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,440
you mentioned, he's a teenager. He won't turn twenty until August,

667
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:03,599
and he will have played already two seasons in the

668
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,640
KHL as an eighteen and nineteen year old. That's super impressive.

669
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,039
And the fact that he has thirty two points and

670
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:11,239
forty five games really good. He's got good size, he's

671
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,719
really fast, he's got really good hands, he's got elite handles,

672
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,440
so all that looks really positive. Green Tree is no

673
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:25,480
slouch here, but I definitely would easily prefer sur unto him.

674
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:28,039
Green Tree is still in the OHL, which is not

675
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,360
his fault, but it is a little less exciting or

676
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,599
a little more difficult to make that comparison in terms

677
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,960
of what the what the difficult level of difficulty is.

678
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:42,480
So he's twenty, as you mentioned, you just turned he

679
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,800
was still eligible for that tournament because he was nineteen

680
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,360
before it started. And yeah, he's been fine for the

681
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,039
windsor Spitfires. Last year, he was almost two points per game.

682
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:54,280
This year he's just barely over point per game. So

683
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,039
a little bit of regression here. I think part of

684
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:59,239
that is team effect, but I just think that Surin

685
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,519
with his upside and playing against professionals already, he's at

686
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,559
forty six percent chance of being a star in the

687
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:08,880
Hockey Prospecting Model, green Tree at sixteen percent. Because he

688
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,840
regressed a little bit this year. Looking at the top

689
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,360
down Hockey model Advanced Hockey Stats, it's a little bit different.

690
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,760
But I think I don't think he's updated his the

691
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,920
next draft year's potential yet, but he has Surin at

692
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,719
twenty two percent and green Tree at thirty six percents

693
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,679
a little bit higher for green Tree, I don't think

694
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:27,719
it's factored in that regression from this year. But you

695
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760
look at Currin and his Fantasy Hockey Life skater card,

696
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,679
and I mean there's just green all over this thing.

697
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960
The only thing that is not ideal is he doesn't

698
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,000
block a lot, and his power play time and shorthanded

699
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,119
time is a little bit limited, but that's because he's

700
00:35:41,159 --> 00:35:43,239
a teenager in the KJL, so he's not getting as

701
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,639
much opportunity. But he's making the most of it. And

702
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,599
he's his expected goals, his puck battles, his transition game,

703
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:53,320
his loose puck recovery is Fenwick. All of that is outstanding.

704
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,920
And even his bash, because of his hits and his

705
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,079
shots are elite. He's almost at ninetieth percentile for bash,

706
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:02,239
so you love to see that. And green Tree's numbers

707
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,039
look pretty good in the OHL, but not as good

708
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:08,119
for puck battles wand for some of the transition data

709
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,480
and a little bit on the lower end. I actually

710
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:15,840
updated my numbers recently and I actually flipped Surah and

711
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,639
green Tree. I had green Tree a little bit higher,

712
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:19,199
but I bumped him down a little bit and I

713
00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:21,519
bumped Surin up. So this is definitely stock up for

714
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,159
Surin in my opinion.

715
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: Jesse very good. I love it. I love it. Everybody

716
00:36:28,519 --> 00:36:31,079
in my four sport league come talk to me about

717
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:32,880
Sor and I have him all love, Victor, I'll trade

718
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,800
him to you for some massive return here at the

719
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,400
trade deadline.

720
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: What do you think of that? Sure? If by massive

721
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:40,079
you mean little, then I'm down.

722
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 3: Come on, guys, got a dream. I Next up, we

723
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,920
got Riker Lee. Lee hit the ground running at Michigan State,

724
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,800
which is pretty good considering he was coming from the USHL.

725
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,880
He even scored a goal for the US in the

726
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,480
infamous overtime loss versus Finland at the World Junior Championships.

727
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,239
So he has already shown that jump from that jump

728
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,480
from the lower levels. He's doing very good at He

729
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,760
was a late first round pick this last year. He's

730
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,840
an Illinois boy. In our draft coverage right now. In

731
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,840
our draft coverage, when you went out there and recorded stuff, Victory,

732
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,360
I think you got audio of Breker Lee and Cole McKinney,

733
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,119
and I remember one part I was able to isolate

734
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,719
where Cole McKinney was talking about how good buddies he

735
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,599
is with Biker Lee, how they trained together. Anyway, Lee's

736
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:28,239
looking real good right now, and we're going to put

737
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,519
him up against Jager Fercus in the NHL ranking poll.

738
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:33,599
We just talked about him on one of these episodes.

739
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:37,519
Fercus a one of our most talked about prospects, but

740
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,559
Lee outdoes him in this poll, despite Fercus's recent offensive

741
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,840
fireworks in the AHL, fifty six four percent. Fascinating pole

742
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:50,519
as Lee is younger and bigger and on a completely

743
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:54,159
different development path. He's not on the WHL AHL train,

744
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,400
He's on the USHL NCAA train. So it's a little

745
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,559
bit of apples and oranges. He's got six seven inches

746
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,840
on Furcus. What do you think of this poll and

747
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,559
Lee coming out ahead of Fercus.

748
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really interesting. I think this really depends on

749
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:14,119
where you are, where your team is at, because I

750
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:17,519
would for sure take Fercus if I was a competitive

751
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:19,239
team waiting for that call up right now, which I

752
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,079
think is what we talked about on the last episode.

753
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:23,920
Having forty points in forty two games in the AHL

754
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:28,199
is pretty outstanding. And I look at Fergus's underlying data

755
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:30,639
with the fantas Tackle Life Skater card, and a lot

756
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,519
of it looks really poor, like some of his transition data,

757
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,840
his play driving, his puck battles. I'm not quite exactly

758
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,000
sure how he's doing it, and haven't watched enough games to know,

759
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:44,679
but he the underlying numbers don't suggest that he's doing great,

760
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,280
which is maybe why he hasn't been called up. I

761
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,360
don't know, maybe Seattle is waiting for something. But if

762
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,559
I were a competitive team looking to get some reinforcement soon,

763
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:56,719
I would lean toward that. But if I could be

764
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,480
a little bit more patient, I would take Lee. I

765
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,119
do think Lee has a lot more upside. I don't

766
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:03,639
think he is just a product of his environment, and

767
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,519
Michigan State is a pretty good team. Last I looked

768
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,719
at the NCAA polls, it was Michigan and Michigan State

769
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,960
one and two. So there's a lot of good hockey

770
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,360
going on in Michigan in these days. And I don't

771
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,440
think that's just the team around him. I think Rikerley

772
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,119
has been one of the driving forces there, and he's

773
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:22,800
certainly a super creative and high end skill guy, and

774
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,320
so I would definitely take him if I had a

775
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,639
little bit more leeway to let these prospects marinate. But yeah,

776
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,679
and it's interesting though too, because the hockey prospect in

777
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,519
between the two, they're really got the bottom five and

778
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:41,280
six percentile, respectively, so neither one has tremendous upside there.

779
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,480
Part of the reason why Lee's looks so bad is

780
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,719
that he is his first. The first equivalency that came

781
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,599
out for him was based out of his shot at

782
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,679
Saint Mary Prep School numbers, which were good. I mean,

783
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:56,400
he was almost at two points per game, but to

784
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,719
really move the needle in high school you need to

785
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,920
be at like three points per game, and he wasn't

786
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,840
quite there, so that makes some of his numbers look

787
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,000
a little bit less. But even in the top down

788
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,119
hockey model, both of these guys are under five percent

789
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:09,400
chance of being a star, so some of the models

790
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,960
don't believe in them. But I still think that Riker

791
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:15,599
Lee has upside above an average roster player, and he

792
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,519
could continue to develop and push that ceiling even higher. Jesse,

793
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:21,239
so I would take him.

794
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 3: Tremendous. Let's move on to our next prospect. It is

795
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:30,880
going to be Zachary LaRue. Victor. You and I have

796
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,639
both been doing dual lingo French for a little while,

797
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:36,320
and I got to tell you the greatest thing that

798
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,679
I've learned in French is luo. However you want to see,

799
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:44,320
it means happy in French. So this guy's name is

800
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480
literally Zach the Happy because look, of course this is

801
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,239
the so Zach the Happy played most of the year

802
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,400
in the NHL last year. I'm going to make this stick.

803
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:54,159
He's a mean guy. He might hurt me for this,

804
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,480
but yeah, I'm gonna make it stick. He played most

805
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:57,960
of the year in the NHL last year, but he's

806
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,400
not been back this season at all. Instead, he's over

807
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,920
a point per game at HL Milwaukee, and in his

808
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:07,039
most recent appearance that I looked at on his game log,

809
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000
he did achieve a Gordy Hall hat trick, a goal

810
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:14,800
and assist, and a twenty seven minute misconduct after fisticuffs

811
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,320
in the second period. So the guy hasn't changed. His

812
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,639
reputation is is a guy who's willing to get into

813
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,079
under the skin of others and be a little bit

814
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,039
of an instigator. But he's also got some offensive props,

815
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,719
offensive chops, i should say, And we're gonna put him

816
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:35,320
out with Joshua Waw in this NHL ranking poll the pick.

817
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,199
He's actually drafted four rounds later in the same draft

818
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,599
by the Montreal Canadians. We've talked about him several times

819
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:43,760
on this show because he had a moment where it

820
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,079
looked like he was gonna make maybe an impact with Montreal,

821
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,480
and he faded into the background again and not been

822
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:55,000
a major factor for the team. So LaRue, even though

823
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,280
he hasn't been back up this year, is winning the

824
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,440
NHL Ranking poll sixty one to thirty nine percent. Who

825
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,239
you got in this one?

826
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I would take laru here. And that's

827
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,039
funny maybe because his name means the happy. He's trying

828
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:13,360
to do everything he can to convince people otherwise because.

829
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,079
Speaker 3: It's so against type Vicker. That's what I love is

830
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:19,280
if like some lady bing winger was named the Happy,

831
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,559
that would be one thing. But for this guy, come on, I.

832
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:25,519
Speaker 2: He's doing it on purpose. I'll show you. I'm not

833
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:29,599
the happy guy. I'm the mean, tough guy. That's what

834
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:31,840
he is. We've always talked about, even in his draft year,

835
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,360
we talked about him being really physical, and he is.

836
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,079
That's definitely part of what he offers and what he brings.

837
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,159
Looking you can see that on his Fantasy Hockey Life

838
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:44,639
skater card. He's hitting at seventieth percentile, seventy first percentile.

839
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,960
His bash is really low though, because all he does

840
00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:49,400
is hit. Actually he doesn't really do anything else. He

841
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,000
doesn't really shoot, it doesn't really block, but he'll hit everything.

842
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:54,280
And apparently he'll pit him as well, so if you're

843
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,320
into that kind of thing, he'll give you some penalty minutes.

844
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,159
But I think that the confusing thing about Joshua, as

845
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,239
you mentioned, is that, yeah, he's played in the NHL.

846
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:07,519
He played three games this season, he played twelve last season,

847
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,159
and twenty three two seasons ago, so he's had some

848
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,239
NHL time, but mostly he's been in LaVall and I

849
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,639
think a lot of people have moved on and just

850
00:43:13,639 --> 00:43:15,480
think it's not going to happen for him, which it

851
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:19,079
might not, but also it just takes a really quick run.

852
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,840
It takes a little bit of a call up and

853
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,280
for him to prove himself and then he could be

854
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,239
off for the races. So I think people are still

855
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,039
holding out hope for that, and I think that it

856
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:29,440
is possible that he's still. In fact, I have him

857
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,480
in our common league that we're in the playoffs right now,

858
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,159
and I'm trying to maximize my flex spots, and I've

859
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:37,760
been tempted to drop him because he's just sitting there,

860
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,559
he's not doing anything, he's not getting called up. But

861
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,599
also the fact that he might get called up makes

862
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,280
me want to hold on to him, and you never know,

863
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,800
he could have some relevance. But I think that I

864
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,920
would take LaRue. I don't think he's ever going to score.

865
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,320
That's something that we've talked about. He's not really a scorer,

866
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,480
but he can provide those hits and he has had

867
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,960
some decent at least he has got minutes in the

868
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,599
past and had some production seasons ago when he was

869
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:03,519
in the NHL, he was pretty good defensively, So I

870
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,159
think that there is a player there who can be

871
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:09,400
in the NHL, who can find a role. Maybe it's

872
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,599
a little bit of teaching him when and where to

873
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:15,159
be so physical and to get a little bit of

874
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:18,840
more of that physicality to translate to offense. He's at

875
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,119
thirty seven percentile to offense, so he wasn't that's not

876
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,320
horrible for your first forty games in the NHL, And

877
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,719
I think that if he could get closer to average,

878
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,880
then you know he could and in the right situation,

879
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,639
he could be a little bit more of a player.

880
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,119
So I like the floor for Laru. I like the

881
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:36,920
fact that he hasn't had too many options or too

882
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,119
many opportunities to go by the wayside quite yet, and

883
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,519
he has been really good at Milwaukee, so he looks

884
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:44,880
like he might be due for a call up any

885
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,400
minute now, Jesse. So I would definitely be a little

886
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,199
bit more interested in LaRue right now, because both these

887
00:44:50,199 --> 00:44:53,480
guys are close, and one of the guys, Joshua, has

888
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:56,840
had several opportunities that haven't really gone super well, and

889
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,480
then LaRue has had not as many opportunit. He's just

890
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:04,400
one long stint and I could see another one very soon.

891
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: Here, yes, sir. Now, Brady Martin, Prospectum's favorite farm kid,

892
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:14,079
is back on a role in the suit in the

893
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:18,320
Ohl played a lot of points in the World Junior

894
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,559
Championships as well, eight in six games. He messed up

895
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,559
his arm near the end of the tourney and hasn't

896
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,960
played for the last month, so it's a little bit

897
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,800
of a delay for him. He's not going to make

898
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,840
it up to Nashville in time to play under Barry Trotz, probably,

899
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440
but he might end up a good part of that legacy,

900
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,760
having been the number five overall pick last year and

901
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,000
looking pretty good for what he's doing. Brady Martin is

902
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,719
let's make it a early let's make it a lottery

903
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,440
time comparison here between Martin and Deoier Caleb Danoier of

904
00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:53,599
the Utah Mammoth, who's taken one pick before him. They

905
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:58,159
were taken four and five respectively, and Denyer is not

906
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,960
going to prevail over Martin. Martin fifty seven to forty

907
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,239
three percent in the NHL Ranking poll. Dyno Ye the

908
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,239
host for Hockey Day in Canada, which was hosted in Moncton.

909
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:10,800
He is a monkedin wildcat, the start of that team.

910
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,320
Who do you have in the battle of Martin versus Deoier?

911
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough one. I'm definitely taking de

912
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:23,480
Noyer here. I do still believe in him, and actually

913
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:27,639
this is probably a good opportunity to buy a little

914
00:46:27,639 --> 00:46:29,239
bit low on him. I think I wrote this in

915
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,119
my write up for de Noyer for The Mammoth, which

916
00:46:33,159 --> 00:46:35,480
is not what we're highlighting here on this episode because

917
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,840
it's Nashville and Colorado. But I'm pretty sure that is

918
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,760
what I talked about, and he's been good for Mouncton.

919
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,800
But I think people might forget that Deane had a

920
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,480
wrist injury. He couldn't really do anything for a while.

921
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:51,000
He had surgery in August, he missed the first twelve weeks,

922
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,199
and then when he came back, he really wasn't himself

923
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,320
at first. And so you might be looking at the

924
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,039
forty points in twenty seven games, which is good, but

925
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,079
you might wonder, oh he's made he's not that good,

926
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:04,480
or maybe he's lost a step or whatever. But I

927
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:06,880
still think that daon A has a lot more upside.

928
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,719
I think he has one c upside potentially maybe more

929
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,079
likely a two. See, but he's got a ton of

930
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:17,119
upside there, and I think that there's more offense there

931
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:20,079
for sure. Brady Martin, you're getting. The reason you're getting

932
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:23,360
Martin is because he's got a strong Perferle floor. But actually,

933
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,320
if you look at the Ohl versus the Q, Danaa

934
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,320
has more hits per sixty relatives the rest of the

935
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,239
league than does Brady Martin and the Ohl. So that

936
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,840
is interesting and we'll see. Maybe that'll change. As Martin

937
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,400
had well, he was he made the team at a camp,

938
00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:42,760
the NHL team, and then he went back and then

939
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,000
he went to the World Juniors. They both did, so

940
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,800
maybe Martin is getting back on track, but traditionally he

941
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,840
has hit more. But either way I think that Dayona

942
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,039
has more of a perferle floor that people may think,

943
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and he's got more scoring upside. And I think Martin

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is probably going to settle into just be more of

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a middle six banger kind of guy. Everyone said Sam Bennett,

946
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and I think you have to really think about in

947
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those lean years of Sam Bennett, was he someone that

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you really wanted? Was he someone that you rostered in

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those first several years, because there were many years that

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I can remember he was just not appealing at all,

951
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and even now he's a depth guy in a lot

952
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of leagues that I'm in. I think that's a question

953
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you have to answer yourself with that prototype is something

954
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that you like, because for me, I don't. I wouldn't.

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Looking at the hockey prospecting between the two, Dione has

956
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thirty eight percent chance of being a star and Brady

957
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:29,960
Martin twenty five percent. So definitely leans daon a there

958
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in the top down hockey model, they're closer to ten

959
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percent each. But yeah, I'm leading daone.

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Speaker 3: Jesse, all right, very good. My French is getting workout today, Victor.

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Next up we're going to have Aiden Fink. He's doing

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well for himself, but He's in Penn State in the

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Happy Valley with Gavin McKenna and others there. The last

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round selection from twenty twenty three. Fink is in his

965
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third straight year of point per game or above production

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at Penn State. That's some teams wish they had known

967
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he'd do that when they drafted during that draft when

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twenty twenty three, at the time, he was picked out

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of the AJHL, where he was legendary. He was a

970
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huge scorer in the AHL, but he jumped right up

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and is doing things at much higher levels. He is

972
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up against Jacob Pelatier in the NHL ranking pole, and

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Fink wins this one sixty to forty percent. Pelotier is

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three years older, much more of a known commodity. Is

975
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think the better choice in this matchup.

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Speaker 2: As you were saying that, a question came to mind.

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The trajectory for Idenfink is bananas. As you mentioned, he

978
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was in the AHL, then went to the NC DOUBLEA,

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which there have been a few players who have done that,

980
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,159
but I don't know that anyone went from the AJHL

981
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,719
to the NCAA and became a point per game player

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00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,480
in their first season in the NC DOUBLEA. Thirty four

983
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,599
points in thirty four games is just bananas. There have

984
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been plenty of guys who have dominated the A AJHL,

985
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,960
and when they transition out usually they have a bit

986
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,400
of an adjustment period because there's a big step up

987
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in difficulty there, and that's a big, huge step. AJHL

988
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to USHL would have been tough. AJHL to WHL would

989
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have been tough. Going all the way to the NCAA

990
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is really hard. So that was impressive. And remember he

991
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did all that before Gavin McKenna and before Penn State

992
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,320
was even really that good. Frankly, he was one of

993
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,719
the better players on that team, so it's not like

994
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he was just benefiting from passing the puck to a

995
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generational talent. And this year his point totals are actually

996
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:34,320
muted compared to last season. So anyways, all that to say,

997
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it is interesting to see his trajectory and being such

998
00:50:39,519 --> 00:50:43,199
a late pick, a seventh rounder, there's definitely a little

999
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,199
bit of skepticism on how high he could go. But

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I think in this comparison, I think it's pretty easy

1001
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,920
to want him over Peltier. Palotier. It seems a bit

1002
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,880
of a tweeter. He's in the Tampa system now after

1003
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coming up in the Calgary Flame system and then he

1004
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,280
went to the Flyers for a bit, and he's played

1005
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,840
some NHL games, but they haven't he hasn't been able

1006
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,599
to stick. And so now he's in he's dominating the

1007
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:08,559
AHL in the Tampa system. Maybe he'll get another view,

1008
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:12,440
another opportunity, but the reality is that he seems like

1009
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a bit of a tweener. So I'm not sure that

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00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,360
if I had a choice between someone who could be

1011
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,960
pretty decent and someone who is pretty proven that he's

1012
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,599
a tweener and not really able to take that step,

1013
00:51:25,639 --> 00:51:27,079
I think I'm going to go with Aden Fink and

1014
00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,840
I would take him. Looking at the hockey prospecting between

1015
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,840
the two, they both graduated already and Fink was at

1016
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,440
nine percent, Palatier had four percent. In the top down

1017
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,199
Hockey model, there's a Fink is the only one in

1018
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,639
there now and he graduated two percent, so not that exciting.

1019
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:45,760
And you look at some of the Fantasy Hockey Life

1020
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skater card and Fink has a lot more green on

1021
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,880
his card for transition data and play driving. So definitely

1022
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,800
seems more optimistic for Fink than Pelotier. Because even though

1023
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,719
He's got some decent scoring in the AHL. Pelatier is

1024
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,840
struggling with transition game and played, so that may be

1025
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,880
why he hasn't been called up. But you never know.

1026
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:06,280
With Tampa, they could call him up and he could

1027
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,760
instantly gain some relevance. The Darren Radish story is legendary

1028
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,360
from this season, so maybe he could be the forward

1029
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,880
version of that, although I extremely doubt it.

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Speaker 3: Jesse, very good, Victor. That takes us through all of

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the prospects we have today. People probably can get the

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to McKean's. That's some paywall action. But what else do

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you have to say before we get out of here today?

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Speaker 2: Nothing much, Just yeah, keep listening along and feel free

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to reach out with any suggestions for any content you

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want us to cover. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, Victor, we didn't mention the patreon.

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