Speaker 1: A lot of people wonder what does your spouse think
Speaker 1: about you doing all of these crazy things with business.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out firsthand. Stay tuned. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Transformation Station Podcast. I'm Christina, owner, operator, and founder
Speaker 1: of the Transformation Station, and this is where we talk
Speaker 1: about getting stronger while navigating real life. If you're trying
Speaker 1: to stay consistent through the ups and the downs and
Speaker 1: everywhere else in between, this is for you, all right.
Speaker 1: So we got Chris on the show with me today.
Speaker 1: Welcome back listeners. Hello Chris. Hello, all right, So we
Speaker 1: are flying off the handle of this because we have
Speaker 1: no script. Are you scared?
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm always afraid of what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: I'm always afraid of what you're gonna say, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: we should do this right now, and I was like
Speaker 1: a little nervous. All right. So you've been around the
Speaker 1: Transformation Station since the location still in Cedar Point, but
Speaker 1: in Unit one and two instead of where we are now.
Speaker 1: What would you say is your biggest takeaway then versus today?
Speaker 1: As into what as in like what's different? What's different the.
Speaker 3: Gym, the community, the people that are in.
Speaker 1: It, the ViBe's what's changed about the vibe. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: It's more than just a place to go and work out.
Speaker 3: It's there's connections. There's like friendships that are being made,
Speaker 3: like lifelong friendships. Now we have members that are their
Speaker 3: grandkids are intertwined, and the families are going out. So
Speaker 3: it's like it's truly like a home base for many
Speaker 3: of the people that come to work out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's actually a really good point. It's interesting
Speaker 1: because when you're so far in it, like how much
Speaker 1: I am, Like I'm right in the middle of it,
Speaker 1: sometimes I forget to step back and really appreciate what
Speaker 1: essentially what I've built without twooting my own horn. But
Speaker 1: it's easy to be in and be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: going to change this and this is going to be great,
Speaker 1: and let's do this. But you're right like taking a
Speaker 1: step back and being like, oh, look at the friendships
Speaker 1: that have been built, look at out all the life
Speaker 1: changes that have happened. Like it, not just like with
Speaker 1: us or with myself, but amongst everybody else. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Definitely is a ripple effect, that's for sure. M hm.
Speaker 1: So what's it like, Let's say, what's it like? Living
Speaker 1: with an entrepreneur right now in this day crazy.
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of has its peaks and super fast peaks,
Speaker 3: kind of like being on a train.
Speaker 2: I think a train, you never know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Like when you looked at the new location, So the
Speaker 3: location that you're currently in, I think you just went
Speaker 3: to go look at it at like my lunch break,
Speaker 3: and then next thing, you know, before I even talk
Speaker 3: to you sign the papers and we have a moveing date.
Speaker 3: So I'm more of a slow down methodical let's draw
Speaker 3: pictures and count numbers, and I think about things from
Speaker 3: every angle. And you definitely work at a speed that
Speaker 3: is beyond superhuman.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. So when you say, like, okay, you work
Speaker 1: at a superhuman speed, did you really understand what you
Speaker 1: were signing up for when we entered our relationship.
Speaker 3: No, No, I think the crazy got crazier.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I think too is the gym grew right,
Speaker 1: like my vision grew and I was able to in
Speaker 1: a healthy headspace, being happy, being able to adjust the
Speaker 1: transformation station to what I actually wanted it to be.
Speaker 1: So I think, like how I changed, the whole business
Speaker 1: changed at the same time. So it's pretty interesting in
Speaker 1: that way. What did you imagine it was? Like, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: what did you imagine like you knew that I ran
Speaker 1: a business? Did you truly know what it takes?
Speaker 2: No? No, I don't think you really know what it
Speaker 2: takes unless you're.
Speaker 3: In in it basically or like living it because you
Speaker 3: think that it's I don't know, just like a Monday
Speaker 3: to Friday, nine to five job. But it never ends,
Speaker 3: so it's constant.
Speaker 2: So even though people might see you only on the.
Speaker 3: Gym floor for a couple of hours coaching, but that's
Speaker 3: right twelve fifteen hours, or things behind the back that
Speaker 3: you'll see in computers and different aspects.
Speaker 1: So saying in like how much it actually takes in
Speaker 1: all the all the the attention, in all the hours,
Speaker 1: What is something that happens like behind the scenes that
Speaker 1: you wish other people knew about me as a business owner?
Speaker 1: That's kind of a loaded question.
Speaker 3: I just don't think people realize what it takes and
Speaker 3: how much time and effort it takes and brain power.
Speaker 3: Like even if we're going on a road trip, your
Speaker 3: typically answering emails and sages, or we're kind of brainstorming
Speaker 3: and doing different things discussing different visions and things like that,
Speaker 3: or different plans or implementing them. Also kind of some
Speaker 3: of the ideas that you have, like in between classes
Speaker 3: wanting to switch or take down TVs or switch TVs
Speaker 3: where I kind of have to say it takes a
Speaker 3: little bit more than fifteen minutes to install a giant
Speaker 3: TV on a wall. Or maybe if you're going to
Speaker 3: take a sledgehammer to a wall, maybe take it on
Speaker 3: an internal wall, not an external wall in.
Speaker 2: The middle of class.
Speaker 3: So those are kind of things that I don't think
Speaker 3: really people see and know that like business owners do.
Speaker 3: Like if you look at most people that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of behind the scenes of things that it's more
Speaker 3: hands on, like you're involved in every aspect of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Literally, that's why. So those two things actually are the
Speaker 1: truth because that happened. I'm like, I'm going to hang
Speaker 1: this TV right now. I'm like, let's go to the gym.
Speaker 1: It's like fifteen minutes of our day. It's fine. And
Speaker 1: Chris is like, well, you have to make the TV
Speaker 1: has to be hung properly and needs to stay on
Speaker 1: the wall. She's like, you're looking at at least three
Speaker 1: four hours I'm like, yeah, right, okay, maybe twenty minutes, Max,
Speaker 1: let's just do it. Turns out we needed to go
Speaker 1: to the store to get the right parts to make
Speaker 1: sure it hangs on the wall. It ended up taking
Speaker 1: five hours. I was shocked. Do you remember, Yeah, five
Speaker 1: whole hours to hang a TV? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: But hanging a TV in a business is a little
Speaker 1: bit different, I think than hanging a TV in your home.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like our building walls, like the shells are commercial.
Speaker 1: It's not residential. We don't have wood studs, we have
Speaker 1: metal studs, and we don't want this thing that's like
Speaker 1: seventy inches or however big it is. I can't even
Speaker 1: tell you. They're all the same. Anyway, we don't want
Speaker 1: it to crash and burn in the middle of an operation.
Speaker 1: On top of that, so I mean, like, in the
Speaker 1: same sense, I'm like, who cares, it's a commercial space,
Speaker 1: it's not our home. Just get it frigging hung up.
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit if it falls. It falls,
Speaker 1: But let's not take five hours. But Chris's queen of like,
Speaker 1: let's do it the right way so it only has
Speaker 1: to be done once and you won't have to buy
Speaker 1: a TV at the end of the day. Because one
Speaker 1: time in the old location, I've shared this story quite often.
Speaker 1: I went in to teach a six am class and
Speaker 1: in our equipment room because the equipment was in one room,
Speaker 1: not on the gym floor, because the gym floor was
Speaker 1: a lot smaller than what we have now. I walked
Speaker 1: in there was a TV face down, just shattered. It
Speaker 1: was my advertising TV. It was just shattered everywhere, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, my gosh, someone came in here
Speaker 1: and vandalized the gym. What else is all messed up?
Speaker 1: And I'm looking around. I'm like, they didn't touch anything else.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they literally vandalized my space. So I'm like
Speaker 1: looking around and then someone's like, uh, Cristita. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they found something, and they were like, it looks like
Speaker 1: the TV fell because the entire TV hangar or whatever
Speaker 1: it's called is still attached to it and it looks
Speaker 1: like it got ripped out of the wall. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, nothing else here has been touched. Just
Speaker 1: the TV's completely shattered all over the floor and they
Speaker 1: were like, who hung it? It was like me, So
Speaker 1: that's a true story. And then the sledgehammer thing definitely happened.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm gonna take down this whole wall. And
Speaker 1: I started sledgehammering and Chris walked in. She's like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, it was this was between classes.
Speaker 2: It was it was it was like the morning in
Speaker 2: between classes.
Speaker 1: It was probably after the sixth Dame class. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: up the seven I'm not too sure, but I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is in the old location. Hammer hammer
Speaker 1: hammer with a big metal sledge. The sledgehammers that we're
Speaker 1: using circuit on that tire. Yeah, And Chris was like, well,
Speaker 1: just instead of going all the way through, because I
Speaker 1: was already starting to swing, She's like, just do this
Speaker 1: one side of the wall and see if you like it.
Speaker 1: I got done halfway through the room. I was like,
Speaker 1: I hate it. I'm done. I put it back. Chris
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, we've got to clean up
Speaker 1: this mess. Now we clean up the mess. And then
Speaker 1: I stopped. And then when I was moving, I had
Speaker 1: to do the final walk through with the landlord to
Speaker 1: make sure everything was good and the property or off
Speaker 1: Atlanta were the property management team, and she's like, what
Speaker 1: happened this wall? Like, ah shit, I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: was gonna take the wall down and I wanted to
Speaker 1: open up the room, and then I changed my mind.
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, okay, so they've gotten to know
Speaker 1: me now over the years and nothing really surprises them.
Speaker 1: But okay, so what's your favorite what's your favorite part
Speaker 1: about watching me build something from the ground up.
Speaker 3: It's just amazing to see the change, like if you're
Speaker 3: looking at from even like your very first location, your
Speaker 3: second location now, like just the evolution, and like when
Speaker 3: I look around sometimes it'll be like, oh, this is amazing,
Speaker 3: and then you'll come up with some crazy idea you'll
Speaker 3: implement it. I'm like, wow, I didn't think you can
Speaker 3: make something better, but you did. There is sometimes some
Speaker 3: resistance along the way, but it's always better. So it's
Speaker 3: definitely your vision. Like the way that you make things
Speaker 3: to come to life is definitely.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because there's some times when I want to
Speaker 1: do something and Chris is like nope, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean no, Like it's such a good idea,
Speaker 1: and then she's like, ah no, I'm like wait, like
Speaker 1: one hundred percent no, or like eighty percent You're unsure
Speaker 1: and'll be like no, like one hundred and twenty percent no,
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, okay, that's a hard no. But there's
Speaker 1: sometimes when I'm like, I know without a shadow of
Speaker 1: a doubt, and you're like, no, take your time or
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm like, Nope, absolutely yes, this
Speaker 1: is one hundred and twenty percent yes on my end
Speaker 1: and I'm going full steam and then in ten minutes
Speaker 1: I've implemented it or I've changed it and it's actually
Speaker 1: worked out to be really well. That's true. And I
Speaker 1: actually studied this recently because I'm like, why is it
Speaker 1: that I operate like this? Like is this something that
Speaker 1: a lot of entrepreneurial people do? And the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: So they say a lot of people who are highly
Speaker 1: successful are people that implement things because they trust themselves
Speaker 1: and it's not their first rodeo. If I was someone
Speaker 1: who's brand new in business and I didn't know my
Speaker 1: mouth for my asshole, then maybe it's just going to
Speaker 1: crash and burn and you don't know. But when you
Speaker 1: actually know what it is you're building, and you have
Speaker 1: your your your you know your audience, you know exactly
Speaker 1: where it is that you want to go, you're on
Speaker 1: that right path. Without a shadow of a doubt. I
Speaker 1: know what is going to be great, And there's sometimes
Speaker 1: I put feelers out to be like is anybody gonna bite?
Speaker 1: Does anybody want this in their life? Is this actually
Speaker 1: going to be?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Uh, what's the word? Is this gonna be useful to you?
Speaker 1: That's not the right word that I was. Are you
Speaker 1: gonna are you gonna benefit from this? Like that's like
Speaker 1: me talking to members right like is this why do
Speaker 1: you like this? And like people would tell me and okay, cool.
Speaker 1: So I don't often ask for a lot of ideas
Speaker 1: because I have so many ideas that I know are
Speaker 1: for the greater picture of the whole community because I
Speaker 1: pretty much know every person that walks through the gym doors,
Speaker 1: whereas one person might only know the people that are
Speaker 1: in their time slot if they always go to the
Speaker 1: same time space. Right, So it's like, oh, is this
Speaker 1: a good idea? But I want to know are you
Speaker 1: interested in this? And I'm always in the gym morning,
Speaker 1: noon to night. Are you interested? Or are the coaches interested?
Speaker 1: Let's see what's up? So that to me, is it's
Speaker 1: really interesting that fast, fast moving pace. You've got used
Speaker 1: to that? Yeah, yeah, it's almost at first. It's almost
Speaker 1: like a whiplash, right, like you don't know, like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you're doing this today, Oh my gosh, you're
Speaker 1: doing that tomorrow. But it's not like it's I'm changing.
Speaker 1: I'm very consistent in my drive forward. That's true.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Not moving backwards. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Speaker 2: Getting used to the crazy?
Speaker 1: So what is something? What is something that you think
Speaker 1: benefits us as a couple with building the business. That's
Speaker 1: a really long pause, that is so let me rephrase that.
Speaker 1: What do you think entrepreneurial ship? Entrepreneurship? There's no l
Speaker 1: in that entrepreneurial ship. I'll say it like that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: What do you think that has brought into our life
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't have experienced otherwise? Why are you looking
Speaker 1: at me like that?
Speaker 2: Because you're like lifting for your eyeball.
Speaker 1: Oh, stretching my eye. It feels nice.
Speaker 3: She's like opening up her eyeballs with her fingers and
Speaker 3: staring at me, helping me think.
Speaker 2: Entrepreneurship. How does it benefit us or how do we
Speaker 2: benefit from it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: It keeps us exciting, keeps us always something to do,
Speaker 3: like let it be we're driving across Ontario picking up
Speaker 3: punching bags or kickboxing bags, or building whatever contraption or
Speaker 3: doing different things. It also like it's just it's it's
Speaker 3: something that we kind of do together as well.
Speaker 2: So either like lugging crap or picking up stuff.
Speaker 1: Or lugging crap. Do you think my stuff is crap?
Speaker 2: That last minute, like you need whatever, and.
Speaker 3: We're driving across the country to pick it up, making
Speaker 3: trips down to Toronto or wherever that we need to go.
Speaker 3: So it's those adventures as well. So normally, like if
Speaker 3: it's a long trip, we load up the dogs and
Speaker 3: it's a whole family affair. So it's definitely interesting, that's
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: What do you think that we have learned as a
Speaker 1: couple from building a life around a business? Communication adaptation understanding?
Speaker 1: We've communication? What I mean, we learned that we're always
Speaker 1: good at communication?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, yes, one percent. Yeah, you've always been good at communication.
Speaker 1: It's true, it's true.
Speaker 3: But like our scheduling, like knowing like what's going on,
Speaker 3: So typically like every day it'll be like, Okay, what
Speaker 3: do you got on to go tomorrow? Because it's like
Speaker 3: my schedule as well. I do shift work. I have
Speaker 3: other jobs I do, like I work for charities. I
Speaker 3: do a bunch of stuff. So typically we do the
Speaker 3: run around as to, Okay, so what's what do you
Speaker 3: have going on this week? And then unfortunately my memory
Speaker 3: is very very short, so I typically revisit that every
Speaker 3: night and possibly in the morning.
Speaker 2: Again we have one to go.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of like always like we're we kind
Speaker 3: of strive through it together and let it be like
Speaker 3: if we have appointments and things like that, we kind
Speaker 3: of really do tackle them together in that aspect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really not me being in sense would have
Speaker 1: been our communication. We have great communication. Today we're driving
Speaker 1: or rubber She's like, what was that you said to me? Like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you can drive? Oh, because she asked, we're going to
Speaker 1: my uncle's birthday, uh in the like the first or
Speaker 1: second weekend of September. And I'm like, oh no, she says,
Speaker 1: are we are we taking the car or the vehicle
Speaker 1: down to Vaughan And I'm like, for what zo Enzo's birthday?
Speaker 1: And You're like yeah. I'm like, well, doesn't matter, Like
Speaker 1: we can take the car, but I'm more comfortable in
Speaker 1: the passenger side in the past say and she's like,
Speaker 1: what you said I was driving. I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean you're not driving? Like what, I'm passenger princess
Speaker 1: like this is like what? And then she's like, well,
Speaker 1: what if you're driving? I'm like, are you mad at me?
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're mad at me? Tell me you're mad
Speaker 1: at me? You want me to drive down to Vaughan.
Speaker 1: I don't. So I drive every single day like my
Speaker 1: oh whatever.
Speaker 2: Then we live like a kilometer from the gym. I
Speaker 2: don't consider that driving.
Speaker 1: I drive tune from the single day. You watch your mouth.
Speaker 1: It's so three minutes, three minutes back. Sometimes in the
Speaker 1: evening it's been like five minutes with traffic. People stop
Speaker 1: at the light and I need to instead of turning
Speaker 1: that they're turning. Signalana, this will stop at the light.
Speaker 1: I'm like, kidding me, just turn You're making me out
Speaker 1: my five minute commute. So our communication is fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: funny because yesterday I was texting Chris and I actually
Speaker 1: I've been looking at another location. I'm not leaving Barry,
Speaker 1: don't worry. Very is awesome and I'm still here. But
Speaker 1: there's i'd like to open a second location south and
Speaker 1: I know I him and Haw about opening another location,
Speaker 1: not opening it. I got the brand for it, I
Speaker 1: have the resources. I may as well and bring a
Speaker 1: different type of fitness to other people. So I was
Speaker 1: on the phone with this possible thing. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: a person. I was on the whole the person, not
Speaker 1: a robot, not a couch on, like a live person.
Speaker 1: And I was also going back and forth with my mom,
Speaker 1: and I was going back and forth with Chris. And
Speaker 1: I like to bounce ideas, not just with Chris but
Speaker 1: also with my mom because she's owned businesses as well
Speaker 1: my entire life. So I'm like, let's just see, because
Speaker 1: she's gonna tell me how we all know. My mom's
Speaker 1: going to tell me exactly how it is, if it's
Speaker 1: a stupid idea, if it's great, and my mom is
Speaker 1: like three feet in like already. And I was also
Speaker 1: talking with Chris about it, and then I forgot to
Speaker 1: mention while she was at work that I was looking
Speaker 1: at this other space to create another version of the
Speaker 1: Transformation Station. And she's showing me the text and she
Speaker 1: circled it and read with an exclamation mark, because all
Speaker 1: I wrote was okay, see see Jim tomorrow. It's it's
Speaker 1: I'm not buying a gym, but it's already a it's
Speaker 1: a gym and they're closing. So I texted her. I
Speaker 1: said see Jim tomorrow ten thirty am or Saturday, and
Speaker 1: then I said Saturday. Next message, I said, Saturday at noon,
Speaker 1: I gotta go. And Chris was like what and she
Speaker 1: circled it and read and put an exclamation mark and
Speaker 1: sent it back to me. I'm like, do you understand
Speaker 1: the words that are coming out of my mouth? But
Speaker 1: then I realized that I gave her exactly zero context.
Speaker 2: Our communication is fabulous.
Speaker 1: Oh shoot, we recorded this one the same. Some people
Speaker 1: are gonna know. But I thought that I already told you.
Speaker 1: I was like, but you were at work. But that's
Speaker 1: just how my brain operates, right, Like I just go fast, fast, fast,
Speaker 1: fast fast, And like this space like it's it's four
Speaker 1: times the size of where I'm now, right, but it's
Speaker 1: it's good. And like I said, it's easy. I'm already incorporated.
Speaker 1: Things are already there. I am literally it's so easy
Speaker 1: for me to franchise, not franchise, but open a second
Speaker 1: location and seamlessly open. It's super easy, So like, why
Speaker 1: would I not look for another location to bring joy
Speaker 1: to people in the same area and have there actually
Speaker 1: be another space that if we do a field trip
Speaker 1: instead of going to other people's gyms in Burlington or
Speaker 1: in Newmarket or Mississauga, we can field trip to another
Speaker 1: version of the transformation station less than an hour away,
Speaker 1: in a space that's four times as big, that has
Speaker 1: a little bit of different equipment but same equipment to
Speaker 1: have like an in house competition like we had Agnite,
Speaker 1: or maybe I might sign up to host a decad
Speaker 1: for the people at the gym, so like we have
Speaker 1: more exciting stuff to branch the community between two different
Speaker 1: lotions and then say, hey, Okay, it's Saturday, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do TTS Barry. So people from Markham come and work
Speaker 1: out with the people in Barry. And hey, people in Barrie,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do TTS and Markham, let's all carpool. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have food over there. Let's grab a workout together.
Speaker 1: You guys can all meet each other. Like it makes
Speaker 1: the networking and the support so much bigger. So when
Speaker 1: I say, hey, I'm going to book a movie theater
Speaker 1: for us we can all go to one space and
Speaker 1: meet other people. And when people connect with other people,
Speaker 1: they get stronger and stronger, right, so why would I
Speaker 1: not do that? But that, to me, I'm not scared.
Speaker 1: Someone's like, whooh, that's like four times the amount of
Speaker 1: overhead that you already have. Are you afraid? I'm like, no, man,
Speaker 1: you could buy a house in two months with the
Speaker 1: amount of overhead that you have. Yeah, I know. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: And people are like no, no, no. So in saying that,
Speaker 1: are you scared of the risk?
Speaker 2: No, I.
Speaker 1: Would you have been.
Speaker 3: If it was me taking it one hundred percent? Like
Speaker 3: for me to buy the chairs that we just put together,
Speaker 3: like I researched those for I think a week before
Speaker 3: for kitchen chair, two kitchen chairs. So that's me as
Speaker 3: a human being. But with you and your judgment and
Speaker 3: the way that you execute your plans, I have faith
Speaker 3: in you.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. So I used to be afraid at
Speaker 1: one time, right, But I think I think like there's
Speaker 1: different like quotes right, like faithful with little, you'll be
Speaker 1: faithful with much like I Actually I think that's a
Speaker 1: Bible scripture, to be honest with you. I was talking
Speaker 1: to another business owner in the gym this morning. She
Speaker 1: came in. I met her, and, uh, we're talking about that,
Speaker 1: like people that hide their their things, hide their gifts,
Speaker 1: or hide their their finances, stuff like that. I know
Speaker 1: not everyone likes to talk about money or finances. I'm
Speaker 1: not throwing numbers at you, but I think that's a
Speaker 1: big part of being a business owner as getting used
Speaker 1: to normalizing moving large, large sums of money, right, And
Speaker 1: I think we all deal with money and bill payments
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and people tend to shy away
Speaker 1: from talking about those things. Like it's crazy because they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, you don't want to tell people that
Speaker 1: you spent twenty dollars on this parasox or whatever. But
Speaker 1: it's funny because people will always say when they got
Speaker 1: a deal, they'll be like, oh my gosh, thanks, I
Speaker 1: got my dress for five bucks and it has pockets.
Speaker 1: So people are so used to that, but they're not
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, this is actually how you become a
Speaker 1: responsible adult. Why didn't we learn about finances in school?
Speaker 3: And I don't remember. I think I was taught how
Speaker 3: to write a check at school. We also might have
Speaker 3: used a typewriter.
Speaker 1: I don't hate yourself before your time. Fair? Noiside?
Speaker 2: Okay, no typewriter.
Speaker 1: I love my typewriter. If my grandmother was like a
Speaker 1: green color, it matched the same color as my mom's
Speaker 1: bathtub at the time. Who were that green color that
Speaker 1: were in the bathrooms? Yeah, it was either like a
Speaker 1: dusty green color or some of the houses that were
Speaker 1: the same builder had like a dusty pink you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking. Yeah, exactly, that was a color more typewriter.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think like as you get used to
Speaker 1: moving larger sums of money, it becomes normal. So like
Speaker 1: for one person to pay let's say, two thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for a mortgage a month, they get nervous, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: would you say that's normal, Well.
Speaker 3: It depends, like everybody's mortgages are all over the place.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think like paying anything, any bills or anything,
Speaker 3: people tend to be nervous.
Speaker 1: About to be nervous. Yeah. So someone let's say, has
Speaker 1: eight thousand dollars a month in bills, does that sound scary.
Speaker 2: To you if I had to pay it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, if you had to pay eight thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a month in bills, you're nervous about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1: So what if you had eighty thousand dollars a month
Speaker 1: in bills? Does that scary because I'm glad I'm not
Speaker 1: paying them. Yeah. So for me, when I see eighty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month in bills, I'm like freaking Simba
Speaker 1: from the Lion King. I'm like I left in the
Speaker 1: face of danger. I just got a really really big
Speaker 1: eye roll. Just so you know. But that's the kind
Speaker 1: of brain that it takes to run successful business, right Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, No, you're definitely jumping into the risks.
Speaker 3: You understand kind of the outcome, and you're comfortable making
Speaker 3: those decisions totally.
Speaker 1: And you know, something that keeps me going and making
Speaker 1: different challenges for myself is I know and I love
Speaker 1: to see other people be successful. Doesn't matter if it's
Speaker 1: in their fitness, it doesn't matter if it's in their
Speaker 1: profession or their careers or in their family life. So
Speaker 1: when I know that I have thirteen employees and I
Speaker 1: got to pay them, and half of them are depending
Speaker 1: to pay their mortgage, not all half of them, but
Speaker 1: some of them. Some of them are part time jobs,
Speaker 1: it's cool. They love being part of the community and
Speaker 1: they love people and that's why they do it, not
Speaker 1: because they are depending on it to pay their mortgage.
Speaker 1: But some people in the gym work enough hours that
Speaker 1: they're paying their home bills and they're sustaining a family.
Speaker 1: So I know that for me, that makes me so
Speaker 1: happy to make sure that they're paid properly, they're paid
Speaker 1: on time. And I'm like, someone's dinner is depending on me.
Speaker 1: Someone's roof over their head is depending on me. Not
Speaker 1: just my roof over my head. I made a face,
Speaker 1: but like someone else's roof over their head is depending
Speaker 1: on me making sure that I'm making enough money in
Speaker 1: the business to pay them. So not only do I
Speaker 1: need to make eighty thousand dollars a month or forty
Speaker 1: thousand depending on how many locations you want to talk
Speaker 1: about it, we're talking about one. It's a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna tell you, but we're okay, I'll tell you. Oh.
Speaker 1: Chris is like, no, don't tell you. Okay, So it's
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: So two locations is going to put me at over
Speaker 1: eighty k for overhead. Chris is like, why why don't
Speaker 1: we talk about that? Why don't we talk about that?
Speaker 1: People are like, oh, I'm going to open a business.
Speaker 1: I want to start a business. Oh, you make it
Speaker 1: look easy. This is easy, like Christino, Oh, who cares?
Speaker 1: All you do is coach. I got to come up
Speaker 1: with forty K a month currently every month. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Some people are gonna listen to this and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: why would you say that. You're talking about money. Okay.
Speaker 1: Some people are going to listen to that and be like,
Speaker 1: holy crap. I have more respect for you as a
Speaker 1: business owner. You're right, you can't be coaching every class
Speaker 1: day and night because you got a hustle. Right, let's
Speaker 1: be transparent about that. Well, people are like, oh, I
Speaker 1: got to work overtime because I got to pay my bills.
Speaker 1: I hear that in the gym all the time. I
Speaker 1: hear people talk about that, or kid's soccer or kids soccer.
Speaker 1: I gotta pay for kids dance. Let's talk about moms
Speaker 1: paying for mom's families. Whoever, I hear moms because I
Speaker 1: see moms in the gym all the time. They're talking
Speaker 1: about dropping twenty k a year on kids dance.
Speaker 3: We'd probably pay that invent bills and dog food.
Speaker 2: That's easy. We go beyond that, so we can't judge.
Speaker 1: No, what I'm saying is that people talk about it
Speaker 1: like I can't quit my job because I have to
Speaker 1: pay for my kids dance. I can't do this, or like, oh,
Speaker 1: I need to go to work because I need to
Speaker 1: make extra money, or oh, Christina, I need to change
Speaker 1: my membership because I need to work more because I'm
Speaker 1: moving and my mortgage is a lot because my brown
Speaker 1: kids are moving back home. I've heard that, So how
Speaker 1: can people can talk about that and tell me that?
Speaker 1: But I can't talk about the realities of mine because
Speaker 1: it's going to make people feel bad or it's gonna
Speaker 1: make people feel uncomfortable. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: And the listeners. This has gotten to a domestic.
Speaker 1: Well you're very private, right, I'm private, but sometimes I
Speaker 1: like people to know what it takes. Yeah, and there's
Speaker 1: some business owners out there that they're overhead is one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a month. And you know the only
Speaker 1: reason why they've gotting more successful in changing people's lives.
Speaker 1: Hopefully for that amount of money they're changing people's lives. Well,
Speaker 1: it gets more and more.
Speaker 3: You look at like some of the franchises, like if
Speaker 3: you own a Tim Hortons franchising fees alone are insane. Yes,
Speaker 3: you think like, yeah, you might own a Tim Horton,
Speaker 3: so we're own like a Boston Pizza one of these
Speaker 3: big franchises that those fees alone, not including your rent.
Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, this is not your two thousand
Speaker 3: dollars or three thousand dollars house rent. You're now talking
Speaker 3: twenty forty.
Speaker 1: For franchise fees, But can thirty.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars and just rent on top of your franchise
Speaker 3: fees on top of everything else.
Speaker 1: But do you want me to say something? Ship? When you're franchise,
Speaker 1: you already have all your SOP, standards of procedures whatever
Speaker 1: written for you. You have the branding. You you're piggybacking
Speaker 1: off of an internationally known brand. So your fees are
Speaker 1: going to be high because you didn't have to build it.
Speaker 1: So look at someone who opens in the same spot,
Speaker 1: let's say two let's say the exact same location. Someone
Speaker 1: puts a Tim Horton's. They're already going to be successful
Speaker 1: because Tim Hortons has created a name for themselves. You
Speaker 1: have someone in that same spot open up Christina's Coffee shop.
Speaker 1: They have to advertise, create their own brand, to make
Speaker 1: sure that they have success. Most businesses fail with the
Speaker 1: first year. If you celebrate year I think they say
Speaker 1: year four or year five. Oh, now you're spending at
Speaker 1: my statistics. Now I'm speaking by systems. Oh you think
Speaker 1: I haven't studied this When I got over four forty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month in overhead, you think I don't
Speaker 1: know my stats. And I'm laughing because I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is how I also run the Transformation Station is by stats.
Speaker 1: A lot of people see me in class like doing
Speaker 1: dance moves and being funny. I can be myself there.
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about stats there. But when
Speaker 1: I'm at home on my computer, I am so in it.
Speaker 1: I know my stats. Businesses after the first year, if
Speaker 1: they succeed, they're all right. If they pass year four
Speaker 1: and year five, you're gonna celebrate. I'm going into year
Speaker 1: eight with the Transformation Station on itself. I'm in year
Speaker 1: twenty two of business ownership and I've built something from scratch.
Speaker 1: So Christina's coffee shop. They need to hustle. You don't
Speaker 1: get no break in the in the business world. Man.
Speaker 1: You got overhead as soon as you open your doors,
Speaker 1: you got overhead. So that person chris A's coffee shop,
Speaker 1: let's say it's not me. Let's say it's my cousin.
Speaker 1: She needs to make enough. Let's say her rent and
Speaker 1: her bills and everything is forty K a month. And
Speaker 1: now she's opening and she knows nobody, and she knows nothing. All.
Speaker 1: She has a social media account and maybe two or
Speaker 1: three of people she's met on the street or customers,
Speaker 1: because you know, when you open a business, all your
Speaker 1: friends run the other way. They're across the street holding
Speaker 1: a Starbucks saying, hey, Christina's Coffee Shop, I've known you
Speaker 1: your whole life. You're my best friend. How's it going?
Speaker 1: As they're holding a Starbucks coffee in their hand, so
Speaker 1: we know that her friends are not there. Truthful, true, true.
Speaker 1: When a tim Horns opens, they naturally have people in there.
Speaker 1: They naturally the name drives itself, just like any I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, fitness franchise. The name if they're known, that
Speaker 1: person pays for not having to do all the footwork themselves.
Speaker 1: There's still footwork they need to do. They need to
Speaker 1: show up to work. They need to make sure employees
Speaker 1: are paid they need to do all their But when
Speaker 1: you're a franchise, everything, your entire book is written for you,
Speaker 1: so you best believe you got to pay royalties for that.
Speaker 1: Building a brand and being an entrepreneur is different. Someone
Speaker 1: who owns a Starbucks is not an entrepreneurial person. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, No, no, it's not. No, literally, like that's
Speaker 1: a textbook. That's a business owner. That's a business owner.
Speaker 1: You need a special brain to be an entrepreneurial because
Speaker 1: you need to be able to build something from scratch,
Speaker 1: especially if you're branding yourself, your story, your own location.
Speaker 1: A brick and mortar business is crazy. So like, can
Speaker 1: you Tom in business mode?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I apologize listeners.
Speaker 3: I know that franchises are in franchise ownership versus business
Speaker 3: ownership for franchises is a very heated spot for Christina,
Speaker 3: So I do apologize for starting out a little bit
Speaker 3: of fire.
Speaker 2: I am tired. I just got off of nights.
Speaker 1: So you're like, okay, something good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said six minutes, I'm like, I think
Speaker 2: we're beyond Zick.
Speaker 1: I know, like we're both so tired. I'm like I
Speaker 1: need to record a podcast. You're it. It's like really
Speaker 1: like right now, six minutes. But it's true though, right like,
Speaker 1: there is such a difference and a lot of people
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying this because a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't realize the difference between Barry Berger and McDonald's. We
Speaker 1: know the difference Barry Burger. They like the dazeke and
Speaker 1: the Greek salad and the chicken seers. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if I've ben there. Oh it's a delicious I
Speaker 1: think they had two locations, but I think there are
Speaker 1: two different owners. I don't know if I would classify
Speaker 1: that as a franch I don't know if they're legally
Speaker 1: a franchise or not. But I'm just saying that that's the
Speaker 1: only Burger place I know that. It says Barry Berger.
Speaker 1: And we live in Barry, so don't quote me on that.
Speaker 1: But it's, oh, like the Greekery. There's a coffee shop
Speaker 1: the Greekery.
Speaker 2: It's this is like.
Speaker 1: Thinking about, well, they might be listening to this on
Speaker 1: the way to work. So but like I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like the Greek Rey. I follow them on Instagram. They're fantastic.
Speaker 1: Check them out. They have some sugar free stuff too.
Speaker 1: If that's your jam. They're gonna be different than than Starbucks,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, or Second Cup right, Like, power to them. Man,
Speaker 1: they're building their own brand. That's hard. So anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll wrap this up. I hope this didn't freak anybody
Speaker 1: else out about talking about money. I do believe that
Speaker 1: that is normal. I know people like taboo taboo and
Speaker 1: I'm like smacking my hand as I'm saying taboo taboo.
Speaker 1: It makes the world go round. I am very well
Speaker 1: versed in business, not just tambourine banging on my hand. Actually,
Speaker 1: there was someone today I was talking to, and Chris
Speaker 1: was there too, someone that we know and love and trust. Actually,
Speaker 1: Sarah So who was on the podcast last week. She's
Speaker 1: been a member for over five years now. She just
Speaker 1: hit five years and so she's seen some of the
Speaker 1: ups and downs and the moves and everything else. And
Speaker 1: she looked at me and she's like, I know sometimes
Speaker 1: when you go get talking because I'm like we're talking
Speaker 1: about like, oh Christ, you must be like overwhelmed. And
Speaker 1: then Sarah's like, even just listening to you for three
Speaker 1: minutes talk about business, She's like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you do it. Like even I'm overwhelmed. I'm like, I know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. So yeah, So that is the consensus
Speaker 1: of living with an entrepreneurial person. Do you ever tired
Speaker 1: of it? I don't mean like right now.
Speaker 3: Like mentally, it's sometimes it is draining, like I can't
Speaker 3: operate at the level and speed that you do because
Speaker 3: it's like I'm more of a slow methodical, like a
Speaker 3: different pace.
Speaker 1: Like hmm, that's why you've worked at the same job
Speaker 1: for sixteen years.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: And you're fantastic and you have great benefits, which means
Speaker 1: we have great.
Speaker 2: That dogs have great benfits.
Speaker 1: Dogs have great but hey, they have great benefits because
Speaker 1: we pay their insurance for them. That's fully all right,
Speaker 1: So let's wrap this up. Then. I guess I can
Speaker 1: talk to you about this for a long time. I
Speaker 1: still want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: Though, You'll be talking to me about it for hours
Speaker 3: after this podcast.
Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be recorded.
Speaker 2: It's just not re corded and people aren't listening.
Speaker 1: No one to hears yell in the kitchen as we're
Speaker 1: going to prepare dinner.
Speaker 2: I don't have to tell you to tone it down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the other day, Okay, last story before we
Speaker 1: go the other day Christmas in the house and uh,
Speaker 1: my mom was on the phone. Actually, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I don't know if I said this on the
Speaker 1: podcast yesterday or the day before, but I pulled into
Speaker 1: the driveway and I had my mom on Bluetooth, like
Speaker 1: it goes like connected through my car, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, Chris is text messaging me and she's like,
Speaker 1: who are you? Who am I on the phone with?
Speaker 1: Let me they're talking to her or my mom sometimes
Speaker 1: her mom. But she's very, very very quiet, So it
Speaker 1: doesn't we don't. We're not loud. You can't even hear
Speaker 1: us having a You can hear me having the conversation,
Speaker 1: you can't hear her. So Chris wants me in text message,
Speaker 1: who are you yelling at and talking to you on
Speaker 1: the phone in your car? The neighbors are going to
Speaker 1: call the police, thinking that there's a domestic I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm just talking. I'm having a normal conversation with my mom.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Because when we get going,
Speaker 1: we get louder and louder and louder. It's a gift.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, all.
Speaker 1: Right, let's wrap it up. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: agreeing to be on this podcast.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh you're welcome.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: If this resonated with you, hit me up, let's talk
Speaker 1: about it. If you didn't love it and this made
Speaker 1: you uncomfortable and everybody hates this, I'm never going to
Speaker 1: talk about money ever, ever again. But if this resonated
Speaker 1: with you, high five. Feel free to send me any questions, comments, concerns.
Speaker 1: If you know someone who is a little bit south
Speaker 1: and they're looking for a job, send over my resume.
Speaker 1: Christina with a ch at the Transformation Station dot CA.
Speaker 1: Send this to another entrepreneurial person, maybe not a franchise owner.
Speaker 1: Didn't mean to shit on it, Just want to say
Speaker 1: they pay fees for a reason, and I'm sure they know,
Speaker 1: and if they wanted to get out they could. All right,
Speaker 1: until next time,