WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:06.519 And I just turned around and I call ass out 2 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:06.799 of there. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:13.400 I was done. I wasn't deal with them. The hypocrisy 4 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:16.359 of the cult is one of the things that turned 5 00:00:16.359 --> 00:00:22.719 me away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on, 6 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:24.600 it turned and looked at us. 7 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.559 And one of the things I remember the most, where 8 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:33.399 the eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light. 9 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:37.560 It is just circling these steps like it is waiting 10 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:43.960 for me. And he begins to tell them that he 11 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:45.159 saw a UFO. 12 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:47.359 They're basically like, what are you talking about. 13 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.920 That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it, 14 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:56.159 and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, 15 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.359 noose and the eyes. As soon as I made eye 16 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:06.680 contact with this thing, it don't like death. Welcome back 17 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.400 to tenfoil Teals. I'm your host Brandon Wright. Tonight's episode. 18 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.200 We're gonna be joined by my guest, Carissa. Chris is 19 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:14.840 a comic book writer that dives into a lot of 20 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.439 cryptids in one of the series that she's been writing. 21 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.879 It's a little different than what we normally talk about here, 22 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.599 but it is cryptid related. Chris also had a experience 23 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:25.760 once with a shadow person, so we talk a little 24 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.239 bit about that. But before we bring her on, you've 25 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:29.680 ever had an experience and you'd like to be on 26 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.280 an episode of ten foil Tells, there's a couple of 27 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:33.560 things you can do. You can go to tenfoiltales dot 28 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.359 com and go to the contact section, or you can 29 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:38.400 send an email to tenfoil Tales podcast to gmail dot com. 30 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:40.120 Either way it works for me. 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You can send anything weird or 53 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.800 strange or whatever it is you think it might pick 54 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:35.599 my interest. You can find that information in the show notes. Also, 55 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.400 make sure to follow me around on social media. We're 56 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.439 going to go ahead now and dive into the conversation 57 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:43.080 with Carissa, so sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. 58 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.879 I'd like to take this time and welcome my guest tonight, Carissa. 59 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:49.360 Thanks for coming on here and talking to me. 60 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:52.000 Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. 61 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.919 Before we dive into anything, I usually ask the guest 62 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.199 a little bit about themselves. But before I do that, 63 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.840 I have to point out one thing. Your name is 64 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:05.199 the exact name of my daughter's, same spelling, and that's 65 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.159 what really caught my attention. The first time that I've 66 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.879 never seen anyone else have their name of Carissa spelled 67 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:12.240 the same way. I've seen it with a C, ch 68 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.879 and A, but I'm never just a co r. So 69 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.360 you're the first besides my daughter. 70 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.479 Yeah. Well, apparently I was supposed to be a Jennifer 71 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.639 and my mom heard the name on a commercial and 72 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.080 here we are, so she probably didn't even know how 73 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.400 to spell it. But yeah, I always see the C 74 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:34.439 A or the cl or kal. Yeah. No, I haven't 75 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.800 seen another Chris. So, yeah, that's that's pretty cool. 76 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:42.120 I saw your name. It's just like, oh boy. 77 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:44.800 Apparently it used to me. I don't know if it's 78 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:51.439 it used to me mean a maidenly lady and in Greek, 79 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.800 which I am not. I am not Greek, so as. 80 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:55.879 Far as I know, I'm not either. 81 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.360 I'm an Italian. 82 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:03.840 Apparently I've I've got apparently royalty blood lines from I 83 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.719 think my dad told me from Dutch and part of England, 84 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:09.800 and I've also got some Native American I don't know. 85 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.120 I think it was Cherokee, but i'moune hundred percent sure. 86 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.360 I don't do any of that blood stuff because I 87 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.720 think you're still in my DNA. 88 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:24.480 I my dad swears that we have royalty in hungry, 89 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.120 I think, which is weird because as far as I know, 90 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:29.759 we have no interesting but he's set on that, so 91 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:32.399 it could be like twenty thousand years ago, I have anything. 92 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:38.000 But my parents argue because technically I've always been told 93 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.240 I was Italian or one hundred percent Italian. However, my 94 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:44.600 mom is one hundred percent Sicilian and my father is 95 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:48.800 one hundred percent Northern Italian. So Sicilians, for some reason 96 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:52.360 or some of them, call themselves Italian, which again technically 97 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.279 doesn't make sense because they're in Sicily. But Italians will 98 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.959 never call a Sicilian Italian, so they thought about that, 99 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:02.319 so apparently I'm half in him a Sicilian halftime, This 100 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.040 depends who you ask. And out of all things they 101 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:05.560 argued about this into Oliveyard, of. 102 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.040 All places, at. 103 00:05:07.319 --> 00:05:08.759 Least Italian Italian place. 104 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:11.879 Ever, So to be one hundred percent honest, I thought 105 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:14.079 Sicily and Italy were right beside each other. 106 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:18.399 Anyways, they are they are, and like I said, Sicilians 107 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:24.040 generally call themselves part of Italy, but apparently Italians do 108 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.439 not call. I don't know why I always consider them 109 00:05:26.480 --> 00:05:28.480 the same thing, but I guess when you wind up 110 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:31.240 saying Sicily Sicilian I guess you could see their tw 111 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:33.879 different places, but I always thought it was the same thing. 112 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:37.000 So it wasn't until like literally like two years ago, 113 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:38.959 they were like, well, would that make you half Sicilian? 114 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:42.480 I was like, I just consider myself a time. So, 115 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.120 but I know this is the difference because my when 116 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.399 my mother would go date my father, she's really young. 117 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:56.160 My dad's mother would invite other girls over to succeed 118 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.439 before my mom, so she did not want him dating 119 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:02.480 a Sicilian. So apparently there is controversy there. But anyway, 120 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:05.839 that wasn't why I'm on the show talk about my heritage. 121 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:08.839 Yeah, ten foil tales. We talk about a lot of 122 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.839 weird stuff that isn't always the weird stuff that we. 123 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:13.759 Talk about Weird's good, man. 124 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:16.600 Well, would you like to let the audience know a 125 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.759 little bit more about yourself of why you're here and 126 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:19.680 what we're going to talk about. 127 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:24.800 Sure. My name is Cursa Grant. I am the writer 128 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:30.319 and creator of Worthy Chaos Comics. I started writing with 129 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.160 a co writer four years ago and now we have 130 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:40.040 over I think it's sixteen novels finished and which equals 131 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.079 out to be about one hundred and twenty two issues. 132 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:50.240 About that much. It was not intentional, but after writing 133 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:52.839 about five novels, I was like, huh, I should probably 134 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:58.120 do something with this. Now. I am an amazing storyteller, 135 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.720 but I am a horrible writer, so is the best 136 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:07.959 thing for me? Fortunately it's a visual, a visual storytelling, 137 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.279 which wound up being perfect for me. 138 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:13.360 Yeah. 139 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:18.040 So, I am dyslexic and I never ever in a 140 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.879 million years ever thought of writing in my entire life, 141 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.879 but apparently I'm pretty good at it. So here we 142 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:35.079 are and I am Generally our story is pretty much 143 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:39.879 a supernatural horror adventure. We have two series out now. 144 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:46.439 Redemption is up to issue thirteen, coming out February seventeenth, 145 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:51.720 But what I'm mostly promoting on this show is January sixth, 146 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.399 which I think you're going to if anyone's watches is 147 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:59.199 probably already January seventh, so it's probably live, hopefully on Kickstarter, 148 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:05.480 but it's going live, and it's a supernatural western set 149 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:11.079 in eighteen eighty seven. And my two main characters, uh 150 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.319 Sarafina is an angel descendant and Draven is a demon descendant, 151 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.600 and I like to they are have to track down 152 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:25.040 Kryptids Bigfoot when Diego chipocabres, pretty much any you can 153 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:25.319 think of. 154 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.160 We have. 155 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:31.279 Ones that are very well known and ones that aren't 156 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.080 known pretty much at all, like the squank, which is 157 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:38.039 one of my favorite. For anyone has another squawk, it's 158 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.000 just the stupidest creature it to me, it looks like 159 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:45.919 a Sharpei dog with mange, which is saying something. But 160 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.559 it's known to cry in the forest because it's so ugly. 161 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.159 So that is a squank. That is all it does, 162 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.120 and if you upset it too much, it'll literally cry 163 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:00.519 into a puddle. So we have a Squawk and it 164 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.960 actually becomes the main character in issue four I think 165 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:04.600 four or five. 166 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.279 I know they have a Squanka Palooza. 167 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.000 Well we have a plushy four. So I am known 168 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:16.519 online and on Kickstarter. By the way, if anyone wants 169 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.440 to find any of my stuff, just search a Worthy 170 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.279 Chaos on Kickstarter or you can actually such it in Google, 171 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.840 but Kickstart is the best thing. We're always pre launcher 172 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:29.120 live on there. Anyway. I am known as the Queen 173 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:32.720 of merch. I love merch. You can't see it, but 174 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:37.799 I have like when Daego plushies and a giant when 175 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.960 dega Bigfoot plushies that you can see because you get 176 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.080 my camera. But this thing is like three feet tall, 177 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.120 looks like alf really, But I have tons of plushies, 178 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:51.759 So I'm starting. Uh, I have the line of comics, 179 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.200 but I'm also starting now a line of cryptids because 180 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.559 I got so obsessed with it. So I have like 181 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:04.799 three D printed statues, homemade statues, stickers, magnets, pins, shirts 182 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:09.840 of course, the plus she's and pretty much trading cards, 183 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.919 metal bookmarks, anything you can pretty much think of, I have, 184 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:17.559 and I've gotten quite obsessed with it. It brought me 185 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:20.480 down this huge rabbit hole. I'm still doing a lot 186 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.879 of research. But we were talking about before about the 187 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.200 research I've done. Generally, once I add a creature to 188 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.399 it the storyline, I do the research on it to 189 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.720 make sure I'm accurate about it. Now with the story, 190 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:38.639 there's thirty plus cryptids. She needs to track down twenty 191 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:43.840 of them for ingredients for a spell, but she's not 192 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:45.960 allowed to kill them to get the ingredients, so she 193 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.559 has to get like a piece of a Wendego antler 194 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.399 without killing it. So good luck with that. But like 195 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:57.279 she needs the claw of the cheap of Calbre, she 196 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.399 needs the tears of a squawk, of course, because what 197 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.879 else would you mean. But I started a line of 198 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:07.320 these jars that you can collect, and it'll be the 199 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:10.720 jars of the ingredients of whatever it is. So we're 200 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:13.720 gonna have a jar of ground up when Daego horn 201 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:19.080 fangs from a werewolf. We do have a dog man 202 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:20.600 in there, but he doesn't have an ingredient, and he's 203 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:21.720 just there to piss off. 204 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:22.639 The werewolves. 205 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:28.360 And like, well, so I did research on dog Man, 206 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.320 and depending on who you ask, we've talked about this 207 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:33.039 off camera. He's either seen in the sevens or not 208 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.799 seen in the Sevens. It depends. So we're set in 209 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:38.000 eighteen eighty seven, just in case someone wants to follow that. 210 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.879 But from my understanding, dog Man is not technically evil 211 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:47.759 or anything. He's just very territorial, and some sources say 212 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:52.399 he does not like unnatural things. So in the story, 213 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:55.879 I myself isn't gonna probably get me a little bit 214 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.480 of hate from some muel. I don't find werewolves to 215 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:02.360 be a natural, you know, depending skinwalkers would be. But 216 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:05.480 to me, a werewolf is a curse. It's not natural 217 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:10.000 to me. But so in my story, the dog Man 218 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:14.279 is against the werewolves because they're unnatural. Obviously depends. I'm 219 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:19.600 not a fan of the humanoid type cryptids personally, so 220 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.320 I don't have many in there. Like my windego is 221 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.559 a one with antlers, which I know some me some 222 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:29.840 hate for saying that they don't have antlers, and I said, well, 223 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.600 it depends which culture you look at. Some cultures have them, 224 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.039 some cultures don't. My understanding of my research that I've done, 225 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.919 and yes, they're you know, I'm possessed by, you know, 226 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.200 a spirit after becoming a cannibal generally stuck in the 227 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:47.159 winter or whatever. But you know what, I like the antlers. 228 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.159 They make them less humanoid and it makes it a 229 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:54.039 whole unique creature. So to me, they have antlers. So yeah, anyway, 230 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:55.399 there's a whole tire in there. 231 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.879 You're actually going to bring up something and you are 232 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:01.960 just covered up. I was gonna say, anyone, since you 233 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:06.639 hate because when dagoes don't necessarily have horns or ambers. 234 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:07.000 I've gotten it. 235 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.639 I've gotten a lot of shit from people about that. 236 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:14.360 Yeah, I've gotten hate from two different things. One somebody 237 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:18.240 yelled at me that they are not cryptid's period. I said, yeah, 238 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:21.399 they're cryptids. They're they're considered cryptids, they're actually one of. 239 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.919 You know, they're more of a spiritual. 240 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.120 That's what they're argued was, which I don't agree. I 241 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:27.639 think they are. They're they're a creature. 242 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:28.360 Uh. 243 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.480 Even if they're created through some means, they're still Tommy 244 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:34.639 Knockers are said to be the spirit of people of 245 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:38.000 men that were killed in the minds. Uh so what's 246 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.320 the difference. Uh? To me, they are acryptied. Someone yelled 247 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.879 at me that the Jersey Devil, which in my story 248 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.440 is the Leads Devil because they weren't named Jersey until 249 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.519 the nineteen hundreds. But they were like, that's not a supernatural. 250 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.679 That's not a cryptid. It's a supernatural creature. And I 251 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.159 was like, it is a cryptid. That's it's so whatever. 252 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.279 The only thing that I don't consider a cryptid is 253 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:04.279 a ghost, a pure ghoss. But everything else to me 254 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:07.559 is a cryptied. I was on the fence about the zombies. 255 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.240 Some say the cryptid, some doesn't. Google says they are. 256 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:14.159 I don't know. I don't have regular zombies in the 257 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.879 Western I have them in the Redemption line, which is 258 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:21.440 the one that's on issue thirteen. I might have them 259 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.879 later in the Western, but they will be from a necromancer, 260 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:27.120 which would make them more of a cryptid. So yeah, yeah, 261 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.519 I've gotten I've gotten some heat from it. I really don't. 262 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:30.519 I don't really care. 263 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:35.440 They will have In any form of media that you 264 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.120 do or anything out in public, you'll always have someone 265 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.759 to get complaints from. I get it all the time. 266 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:45.720 I get I got one yesterday because apparently I took 267 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:53.960 too long introducing a guest. Why it's boring, it's boring, 268 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:56.559 get right to it, okay. 269 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:01.600 Okay, thanks, Yeah, I I mean I try to remind 270 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.120 them too that it is also a fictional story. This 271 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.600 is not I'm not writing a you know, a field 272 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.039 guide here. I might, but they will be the cryptid 273 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:13.919 creatures of worthy cast anyway, so even if I did, 274 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.480 it wouldn't matter. We did make up a few cryptids 275 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:22.720 that I thought were cool. I have a a phoenix 276 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:29.679 crow demon. I have a dragon plant. I have an 277 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:33.559 aunt bat. I have so I have a few. I 278 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:35.919 think there was like nine that I made up just 279 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.840 to have a little bit difference. My favorite I have 280 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:43.320 is the chameleon vampire bat, which I nicknamed Chatty, which 281 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:48.159 is you know, part chameleon part bat. But yeah, so 282 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.159 I don't know. Everyone's gonna hate something, but I try 283 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:56.840 to be as accurate as I can. Again, my research 284 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:01.440 quotes that wendegos have two and I can't think off 285 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:03.679 the top of head. I think one's European, one's Native American, 286 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:07.279 one has antlers, one doesn't. I believe the Native American 287 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.559 does not have antlers, But for I, I could be 288 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.879 the other way around because I have the worst memory, 289 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:14.320 So I. 290 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:18.080 Believe with the American they don't because they are more. 291 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.639 They have the bigger mouthse with no lips, and they're more. 292 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:25.120 I have my own opinions on a lot of the 293 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:29.360 actual sightings of like the pill crawlers and this, and 294 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.039 I think a lot of that stuff that people are 295 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:33.279 describing and they're seeing the same things, but they've got 296 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.039 different names from different cultures, from different areas. 297 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.200 Yeah, pretty much. If you look up by state, you 298 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:41.000 could see that a lot of them look familiar, but 299 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.200 they have different names. So it really depends. Now, my 300 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.919 story is accurate in the fact that I use the 301 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:53.559 research that I find and the events and the inventions. However, 302 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.799 my creatures are not accurate to locations because yeah, no, 303 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:06.319 but I do have like there's a tunnel a cave 304 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:11.920 system that has a dimensional portal that a lot of 305 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.279 the creatures come from, so they are from different locations. 306 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:16.680 But I do not have like state. You know, I 307 00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:20.200 don't go by state. They're just the fun. So don't 308 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.559 don't come at me and say I did do the environment, 309 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:28.559 like the borough, the bureau, the b you are you. 310 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.960 I'm just lexic. So however, it's probably wrong. The one 311 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:32.519 that looks like an alligator supposed to be like in 312 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.000 the Amazon. Mine's in the swamp, which is where it 313 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.720 would be in the Amazon. So the environment's correct, the 314 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:44.000 location is not. So just enjoy the damn story. But yeah, 315 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.599 it was just to have fun time, including different cryptids 316 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:48.039 and stuff. 317 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:48.279 You know. 318 00:17:50.680 --> 00:17:52.519 I know we kind of talked a little off air 319 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:55.400 about some of your actual experiences. But is there something 320 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.640 that kind of led you to go the cryptid route? 321 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:00.480 You know? 322 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:01.759 It? 323 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.759 No, like it was. I don't even remember how it started. 324 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.559 I was drawn I was doing the Western for some reason. 325 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.440 I just really wanted to do a Western, and my 326 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:17.119 co writer who writes Straven, I write Saraphina and the story. 327 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.400 I leave the story, but my co writer writes Draven, 328 00:18:20.519 --> 00:18:22.799 So I had said I really want to do a 329 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:25.640 Western and my co write is like, yeah, me too, 330 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:28.839 And that's how it started. We literally started writing with 331 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:33.720 no thought process what we never do, but no thought 332 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.119 process whatsoever. And we were like, I think I was 333 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.200 on the first page, if even, and I was just like, 334 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:41.920 we should have cryptids. And I don't even know where 335 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.640 it came from. And my card is like, okay, whatever, 336 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:47.880 and I was like, they should hunt down cryptids. Now 337 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.880 I do love cryptids from a Supernatural show, but the 338 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:53.039 more I thought about it, they really don't do that 339 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:57.559 many supernatural creatures, considering it supernatural. I remember the wendego 340 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:02.359 they did, which is a more accurate, you know, elongated 341 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:06.480 creature living in the cave, you know, with no antlers. 342 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.960 But for whatever reason, I just was like, hey, I 343 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.079 should do cryptis. And then it went to where I 344 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:14.720 was like, oh, we should have to hunt them down, 345 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:16.640 but we can't kill them because I'd be too easy. 346 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:19.119 Plus people. I was like, people might not like us 347 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:23.559 if we killed all their favorite cryptis. So yeah, I 348 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.200 don't know, it just it kind of happened sporadically. I 349 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:27.720 feel like it was meant to be now because now 350 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:32.519 I'm obsessed with it. I have never personally seen a cryptid. 351 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:36.799 The only paranormal thing I've ever seen is the shadow man, 352 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:40.119 which I heard is quite common or more common than 353 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:45.319 most things, and I didn't really know it at the time. 354 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.279 I had convinced myself that had fallen asleep. I was 355 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.079 fortunately not at home. I was pet sitting or cat sitting, 356 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:54.000 I guess, and I was a teenager and I'd never 357 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:59.920 been there before. And I normally sleep with pitch dark 358 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.720 miss and the door shut. But for whatever reason, there 359 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:05.559 was a light somewhere in the house and the door 360 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:07.000 was open, so I don't know if I was already 361 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.000 on edge because I don't normally sleep at that. In fact, 362 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:14.240 I have like double blackout curtains in my room, so 363 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:15.960 I don't know, or maybe because of this now that 364 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.039 I think about it, maybe you never know. But anyway, 365 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.240 I was laying in bed. There's literally nothing in the 366 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.400 bedroom at all. It was just the twin bed and 367 00:20:25.480 --> 00:20:28.960 that was it. And it was really small, and I 368 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.440 am on one side of the door, on one side 369 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.880 of the wall. The door was to the left upwards, 370 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:38.960 so the left corner, and I was staring at the 371 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.319 wall in front of me, and all I saw was 372 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:48.200 this black person shadow that reached from the floor to 373 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:51.200 the ceiling, and I just kind of like casually, like 374 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.480 could you not casually just watched it walk across the 375 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:59.400 wall in front of me, and I'm watching it being 376 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:02.640 scared at all, but I'm watching it like there was 377 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.680 nothing to it. And then it disappeared under the bed, 378 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:08.799 and without thinking about it, considering I was a kid 379 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:10.759 and was scared of what's under the bed, I jumped 380 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:13.160 up to go look under the bed, like I'm moron, 381 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.119 and then right when I got to the edge, I 382 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.440 was like, WHOA what am I doing? So I did 383 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:21.240 not look under the bed and I laid back down, 384 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:24.680 and I was like, I must have fallen asleep and 385 00:21:24.839 --> 00:21:27.640 thought I saw it. So I convinced myself that that's 386 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:31.400 what it was. And then like ten years later, I 387 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:35.839 was watching some paranormal show and the chick was like, 388 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.480 she described it perfectly. She's like, I was lying in 389 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:41.480 bed and I watched this shadow creature walk across the 390 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:43.319 wall in front of me and then disappeared under the bed. 391 00:21:43.359 --> 00:21:45.119 I was like, that happened to me, and that's where 392 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.119 I was like, holy shit, maybe I did see something, 393 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.039 but yeah, i'd convinced my But I don't remember being scared. 394 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:53.960 I don't remember being like, you know, paralyzed from fear anything. 395 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:56.079 I don't remember any of that. I just remember watching 396 00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.599 it and jumping up out of bed when it went 397 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.440 under the bed. That's all I remember. And while I 398 00:22:01.559 --> 00:22:03.720 was like leaning over the bed, I was like, oh, 399 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.039 why am I doing this? So I don't know what 400 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.799 was in in the bed, but all I now picture 401 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:10.119