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Speaker 2: O Pace Sunny Sun.

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Speaker 3: I had vision.

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Speaker 1: Nat Hey, everybody, what's up? It's for crying out loud.

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That's Stephanie Wilder tailor in the studio, in.

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Speaker 3: The Nette Corolla.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, missus Corolla, missus, missus Paradise.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, I was just doing it the way that. Yeah,

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Cammy did it.

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Speaker 1: I know, little Cammy, this is Paradise betterty say, oh

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my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so are we just going with Paradise? That's it's

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I'd like to change your ship, I think so. Yeah,

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I love it. Yeah, it's a great name. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My my kid, Natalia is like, what the hell go

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back to Parrot. If I were you, I'd go to Paradise. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Plus, if you want to get back into stripping.

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Speaker 1: Right, you could use that as a first name. That's

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true only fans.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: Kaylen got a giggle out of that. It was Stephanie's reaction.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just so excited for you. I should do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm always like, what a great idea, excellent thinking. Yeah,

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it's our hustler mentality.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're scrappy onto the next.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, read it we'll have a field day

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with that one. Oh my god, when that's starting only

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yea headline page six gm Z.

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Speaker 1: Next to me and my collection of burken bags, Oh

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my god, and burn bags? Yes, yes, doesn't she have

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enough burken bags now she has to do porn.

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Speaker 3: You're like, come on, I don't have them in every

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color I.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm missing, like the olive drab color. By

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the way, I'm going to be out of town for

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the next two weeks. M going to Florida see Wendy,

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my sister in law. She just got her divorces finalized.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, mm hmm. You guys gonna do some celebrating.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then well my nephew and the baby

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are there too, so and I want to see them.

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So they're there, and then so that's the first week,

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and then at the end of the second week, we're

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supposed to go to Scottsdale, Arizona for her. A bunch

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of her girlfriends have like some airbnb thing. So I

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think we're gonna do that. I don't know for sure yet, but.

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Speaker 3: That'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So you mean that's the second.

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Speaker 1: Week, Yeah, a second week. I haven't gone anywhere for

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two solid weeks. I don't think like before I was married. Wow,

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it's but I mean I've gone on trips here and there,

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but like not like this. But you know, the kids

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are in school and stuff. And Phil he's got he's

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he goes to his like doggy daycare place, so he's

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taken care of and yeah, and I leave at six

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am tomorrow morning. Tomorrow tomorrow morning. Oh so you're gonna

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be gone a while three weeks.

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Speaker 3: No, No, because you're getting week next week and then

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you're missing the following week.

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Speaker 1: I'm missing, So I go the rest of this week,

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I miss next week's podcast, and then I'm back for

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Speaker 3: Oh you're no.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm off that Monday. Yeah, just because I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're having a little break. Yeah, I'm going

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to have Meredith Lynch. I love loved.

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Speaker 1: Listening to you guys on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: It was fun. She's great, and she's gonna co host

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she can come back.

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Speaker 3: She can come back, but she's always so full of

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the following week after that, I'm bringing in my friend

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Tamra Mello who was on the show. Some people recognize

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she's the one who has the jewelry line, Oh yes, yeah,

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the show? So I asked her come on? And so

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's a natural, that's perfect.

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Speaker 3: And she's also a speech and debate bomb. Oh so

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Speaker 1: That'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you guys for holding the fork down. Yeah, Stephanie,

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you want to go anywhere, take a trip. I mean,

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we've been doing our show for fifteen years. We never

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really I mean we take off the holidays or just

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or Labor Day or Fourth of July or we're always here.

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Speaker 3: Always here. Well, because how hard is podcast exactly? I

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you know sometimes we have to recharge, but it's not

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Speaker 2: Amy will always go like, oh, it's a holiday, are

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we all have this Monday off. I go all right,

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well we'll go have fun.

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sort of helped her get started in her career. So

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she was like, all right, I'll do that podcast with you.

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the you have to watch the Bachelor every week and

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our episode. She was like, I have to do it

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at night because she has like a lot of kids

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and you know whatever. So one night she just never

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and we're I'm editing it over this, recording it, then

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where are you where? What's hey? Hello? What happened? Did

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you fall asleep? Never text me back. Then late that

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and she's like, well, I didn't think the show was airing,

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or that we were doing a show was president because

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it's President's Day.

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Speaker 3: I was like, bitch, are you high bank think first

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and like we don't take off President's Day and like

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I mean, of all, the holidays too, like you could see, right,

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Speaker 1: But like like a fourth of July or something.

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Speaker 3: Now, right, I didn't think they were airing because it

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check its President's Day, Like ABC is just not having

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Speaker 1: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really funny.

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Speaker 1: It's not like when you forgot to show up when

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was early days. I just wasn't

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used to it yet. Yeah, I just I don't know

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how that happened. I'll never forget that. I was coming

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hadn't checked my phone. And then I was like and

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then Gary was like, well if you left right now,

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and she was a handful. Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 3: We're hard workers.

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Speaker 1: We are come home with that dust on our face.

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Calas hands.

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Speaker 3: So all right, let me tell Let me go back

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to my speech in debate. Yes, I got a whole

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Speaker 1: Get I've been waiting for days to get back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Saturday morning I have to go pick up

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in last place, like or like somebody that gets first

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they feel in that moment. They don't there's no really

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just bizarre to mean that they just, especially

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for state, to rely on no offense. But just like

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parents that have never done it.

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Speaker 3: Before or whatever got and there were so many parents

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that raise their hands as brand new judges, never judged before.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's see that.

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Speaker 3: That makes when they're like okay, but you guys got

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to take it really seriously because this is going to

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a big deal. They've worked hard all year and now

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this is going to determine their future.

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Speaker 1: So and what about those kids that go to state.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Can only if you're a judge. You have to have experience,

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no matter what. If you're a brand new judge, you

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you can still only judge preliminary rounds.

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Speaker 3: You have to have done a ton of judging, like

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking right now, Stephanie, for your future,

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your career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I told our coach, I was like, I wish

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judging was a job. Yeah, because I'm so good at judging,

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just in judge, just being judged. B Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then think about it, You're gonna be an empty nester.

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You're gonna you know, you're gonna want to have something

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to do you look forward to go into state every year?

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sent up to the podcast texting with the coach and

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I said, like, god, I just love judging. It's so fun.

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I wish I could do it for a living. I

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wish it was a job. And she wrote back, well,

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would you want to be my assistant coach? And she goes,

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it doesn't pay, but it would be really fun. And

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I literally was like, there's nothing I would rather not do.

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right now. So I just wrote back. I was like,

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oh my gosh, thank you so much. I was like,

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I have like fourteen jobs right now. And I said,

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so I can't really commit to that I go, but

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I'm at your service anytime judges are needed. Yeah, And

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then she was like, okay, well, yeah, kind of different, right.

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judge them all done being helped, Well, I want to

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step in and do the hero work. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you kept volunteering at your kid's school even after

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your kids.

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Speaker 3: Are gone, Oh god no, no, I'm already getting burnt out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, volunteer at my kids school.

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Speaker 3: No, but I do the judging because you get hero

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points for it. Because like, so few people show up

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to do it. Why they're kind of intimidated. Yeah, it

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seems hard, and a lot of people have enough sense

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that they're like, I don't think i'd be good at this.

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did it. I was like, wait, wait, I'm the only

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judge in the room. I pictured it as a panel. Yeah.

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I thought it was going to be like America's Got Talent,

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and I'd be able to chat with the other judges.

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I could be the Howie Howie's like giving them like

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good feedback and I'm like, I can do better, right,

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But no, it's you're the only one. They cannot talk

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to them. You can't. You don't talk to the kids,

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or you don't give them any feedback. In the moment,

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you just thank you, you know. But a lot of

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these judges too, they think that they need to be

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like really stonefaced so that they don't show any bias,

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so they don't tip whether they liked it or not.

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I think that's such bullshit. I'm like, if if I'm

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liking a speech and I'm into it, I'm gonna like

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tell my face, yes, show the kids that I'm enjoying it,

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like why why should you? Right? It just makes people

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more nervous. It's like I agree, stand up now, or

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like I'll tell you afterwards if I thought you were funny.

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Speaker 1: Right not gonna laugh right, Yeah, I agree one thousand

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percent with that. I would kid, yes, yes, yes, I

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mean even when you and I are talking or we

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have a guest on the show, I'm always like nodding

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and smiling and nodding my head and smile like I

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just that's how I and I can't help myself. That's

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just yes, you know you're the same way, like you

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want to make people feel comfortable. If you're enjoying them,

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then let them.

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Speaker 3: And if I like something like I really like it,

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I'm definitely a little bit hard to please. But once

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i'm in, like I'll know if I like somebody from

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like the beginning of their speech all right down, like okay,

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like number one right, because you can just tell right

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away if you're gonna be engaged. Sometimes they're funny right away.

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Sometimes they're just charming right away, like they have a

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great opening line. It's like it's like stand up, yes,

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you feel comfortable right away, or you're nervous for them

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a little bit because you're like or especially with some

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of the rounds, like the impromptu where they have to

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write the speech on the spot, some of them are

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really good at it and some of them are really

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not great, and right away you feel like, oh, this

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person struggling. But I always smile at them and kind

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of not and like I'm encouraging and I've seen how

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some of these judges are and like Xander will tell me,

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some of them just really well, I'll tell Okay, the

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story is going to get good in a minute, because

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this is I get mad at a coach.

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Speaker 1: It's all good, I know.

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Speaker 3: So okay, you get mad at a coach. Yes, okay.

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So here's what happens Saturday morning. First two rounds single,

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you're just a judge by yourself. Then you find out

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and in Xander's category, in three of the biggest categories,

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they had a semi finals round. So not all the

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kids are going to make it from so twenty seven

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kids in this original oratory, eighteen of them made it

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to the Semifinalsky So Xander was like tense about it

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because he's like, oh, what if I don't make it

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to semifinals. So last one he didn't make it to

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the he didn't. It's called breaking, break away from the

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rest of them. If you break. If you don't break,

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it means you don't advance. So if you break, you're

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going to the next round and you have something to do.

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If you don't break, it's like hard for these kids,

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they're done right, you know. So if you don't make

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it to the semifinals and you're going to be one

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of like nine kids, you know, and.

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Speaker 1: What do they do the rest of the day.

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Speaker 3: They either wait around or their parents could come get them,

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they could leave. It's not like normally done anyway. So

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I find out kind of early that Xander made it

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to the semi finals, and of course I was really relieved.

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He broke to the semi finals, and I was so

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relieved because in the last I was just nervous from

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the last one where he didn't get to the finals.

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But this time he got to the semi finals, which

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was a big deal, so he was excited. So then

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he does his semi okay, So I judged a semifinal round.

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Three judges in the semi finals in their own rooms,

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or well, there were three judges in the semi finals

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and three judges in a bunch of the finals for

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smaller categories. Okay, Xander had three judges in the semi finals,

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and then, as you know, because you know what happened,

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he went to the finals. Five judges in that room.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you ever have to judge him?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not allowed to.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I can't judge anybody from our school. Oh okay, So

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I can only judge I can't have any conflict. So like,

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I can't judge my friend Julie's kid because I know her,

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and if somebody saw that I was like hanging out

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with her and they knew I knew her kid, it

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would be they could report it, you know. So they're

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very they take it really seriously, except that they have

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judges who have no fuckingout what they're doing. Okay, so

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with via Okay, Okay, So I'm assigned this category called

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humorous interpretation. Hi, and there's three judges in the room.

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So it's me, a woman, a guy, kind of older guy.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, was that guy back, the one

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that was like, I'm gonna give him a rating of

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seventy six or something and you were like, oh the

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one well shadowy yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I didn't

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see him, remember back? Okay? Okay. Uh, So there's three

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of you in the room, three of.

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Speaker 3: Us in the room. Guy right away, this woman is

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annoying me. I mean, so Julie and I have done

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finals together before, We've been assigned the same room, and

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we always have the best. It's the best because like

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you watch all the kids, then you put in your ranking,

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so you watch all this is how you judge. You

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watch all the kids, you take little you take notes

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about what it was about, and then you decide who's first, second, third, fourth, fifth,

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and SIXTHKA for seventh. So Julie and I put in

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do our rankings? You don't, you don't. We don't confer.

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You have to do it yourself. Put in our rankings.

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But then we like to talk amongst ourselves after the

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kids are gone and go like, okay, were we on

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the same page with that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and go like, oh my god, we both

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have the same number one, but we have such different

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number twos. You know it's fun?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. Why would you not want to

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write fun for yourself? Of course, So first.

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Speaker 3: Right away, this woman is like, have you uh, have

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you judged HI before? And I said, no, I haven't

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actually judged HI, but I judged d I, which is

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dramatic interpretation, and I've I've watched HI. And she's like, okay,

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and she starts giving me instructions on how to judge it.

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She's she's like and she's very serious, and she's like, well,

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you have to judge based on like articulation and the

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blah blah blah and whether the characters are defined. And

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I was like, oh, yeah, I've judged a lot. She's like, oh,

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you have experienced judging and I said yeah, I've been

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doing this. This is like my second year judging. And

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she's like oh and then okay, and then the guy

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is kind of like really friendly and like so I said, yeah,

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so hey, you know, it's fun afterward. This is before

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the kids came in. Okay, before the kids walk in

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the room, I was like, you know, if you want,

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if you guys want afterwards, after we do our rankings,

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like we could talk and like compare notes, and the

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guy goes, ah, that's fun, like after we and she

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was like dead silence, and I was like or not,

470
00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:22,480
you know, She's like hmmm. So then the kids come in.

471
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,519
The kids come in, and then she's okay, and this

472
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:28,680
is going to sound like you're not going to really

473
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:32,279
understand what I'm talking about. But these kids have a piece.

474
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,680
It's planned. It's ten minutes. Can't it's not supposed to

475
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,319
go over ten minutes. On some types of events, you

476
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,599
have to tell them what time it is. It's the

477
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,200
events where they're just talking off the top of their head.

478
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,720
They don't they can't time themselves. Yeah, you're at like,

479
00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:51,079
if they're doing impromptu, they have five minutes to give

480
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:53,599
a speech, so you're supposed to show them you have

481
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,559
four minutes left, you have three minutes left, you have

482
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:59,079
two minutes left, you have one. They just puts so

483
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,400
the kid can see it. They just don't, but the

484
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,200
kids are. The kids are Also you're in another school's classroom,

485
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,519
so you'd have to bring clocks for every room. But

486
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,200
sometimes if the kids will be like, can you give

487
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,279
me a time signal at like nine minutes? So you're like,

488
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,720
of course. So the kids walk in and right away

489
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,279
this woman is like, okay, how would you all like

490
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:28,440
your time signals? Which, and the kids look confused because

491
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,240
that's not a thing. But she's acting like she's this

492
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,680
super experienced judge. She's like, I've been doing this a

493
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,160
long time.

494
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah how long? Did anybody ask how long she's been

495
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,200
doing it?

496
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,319
Speaker 3: No? So then she was arguing kind of with the kids.

497
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:47,880
She made everybody feel uncomfortable because she's like, so the

498
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,160
one kid, She's like, okay, well, who's double. She was

499
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,240
good getting in the weeds about stuff that the kids

500
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,519
already know how to handle themselves. Who's double entered. Here,

501
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,799
is somebody going to go first? Is this person in

502
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:01,599
the room?

503
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,279
Speaker 1: It's making it.

504
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: All the kids are in the fucking room. There's seven

505
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,160
kids on our thing. There's seven kids in the room.

506
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,079
It's not that hard. It's not like a full classroom. Right,

507
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,839
there's seven kids. They're all there. Right, She's like, is

508
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:17,000
everybody in the room. She starts going, okay, everybody, what's

509
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,240
your code? What's your code? The kids are looking at

510
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,599
her like she's high, you know, let's share. She's so

511
00:27:23,599 --> 00:27:26,759
serious because these kids are all they all are assigned

512
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,079
a code. We don't know their names because it's very

513
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,720
serious state qualifiers. They don't want any bias. They don't

514
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:34,720
want you to recognize the name of a kid. So

515
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:38,240
it's all codes. But it's you can ask them that.

516
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,720
Right before they start, She's asking all the kids like,

517
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,599
what where do you want your time signals? The kids

518
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,359
are like, oh, we don't really need them. One of

519
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,359
the kids is like, well, I'll take one at like

520
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,599
nine minutes. In my mind, I'm like, you're going to

521
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,039
have to do this all over again for each kid. Yeah,

522
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:59,119
you're going to write down every kid, right, So the

523
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,039
first kid, so now it's time. You're supposed to start

524
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,279
exactly on time, right, because some of these kids do

525
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920
have to get to a different room. Okay. So it's

526
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,880
like I'm like, okay, we're ready to go. Who's you know? First?

527
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,119
Up is so and so and she's like I need

528
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,039
a minute. Ah.

529
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: She's one of these people like you give them a

530
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,160
little bit of juice. It's just like it just a

531
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:27,000
little bit of juice. And it's like, ah, they gotta

532
00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:30,079
have their tiny time and I need to wozu and

533
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,680
give me your codes and da da dah. I've been

534
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,000
doing this for a long time.

535
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,279
Speaker 3: And that it's like, and you have her, n you

536
00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:42,720
have her code, got her coman? What the fuck I know?

537
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,799
Is exactly. I had your voice in my head when

538
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,119
I went to go tell my friend afterwards, I was like,

539
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440
oh my god, this judge. I almost like had to

540
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,240
say something. It was so awful that I literally had

541
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,319
to make eye contact with some of the kids to

542
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,000
be like, oh, don't group me in with this.

543
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,319
Speaker 1: Right right, I'm not with her. That was stupid.

544
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,279
Speaker 3: That was stupid. Nope, I literally looked at what I

545
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:09,839
love that totally made eye contact and gave him like

546
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,119
a like raise my eyebrows, like I'm not, like, I

547
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,759
don't know what she's what is she doing? Because the

548
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:19,279
kids were like, you need a minute? What what do

549
00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:21,960
you need a minute to day? You gather your meditate,

550
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,440
what what are you doing? So then so then the

551
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,680
first person goes and she makes this really big deal

552
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,640
and Xander makes fun of this too because they like

553
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,599
to go, okay, are you are you ready on your

554
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,559
first word? A lot of that you start the clock

555
00:29:38,119 --> 00:29:41,599
at their first word, but we all know that, like

556
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920
the kids know that they've been practicing this fucking thing

557
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:49,079
for months. This isn't their first rodeo. You have to

558
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,799
tell them that you're going to start timing them on

559
00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:54,160
their first word. It's so extra. It was very extra.

560
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it.

561
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,039
Speaker 3: Was very I've got some juice. She she basically elected

562
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:03,599
herself jury four persons. Yes, it's like, we don't need.

563
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: A four person's exactly right, we're all equal here.

564
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:10,319
Speaker 3: You're not in charge. So then she continued to be

565
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,119
annoying through the whole thing. Every single person that came up,

566
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,440
she was like, please, what's your code? Like to double

567
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,440
check it? And then she did the on your first

568
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,559
word and also would ask them, every single person, do

569
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,079
you need a time signal? And most of them are like, no,

570
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,359
thank you, it's timed. It's gonna be what, it's gonna

571
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
be right. You're not going to rush through it because

572
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,960
you've told them they have one minute left, they're gonna

573
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,839
do their piece. Oh my god God. And then when

574
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,839
one kid was like, okay, sure you can. Can you

575
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,319
let me know when I have a minute left, she

576
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,519
was like okay, I'll do it. You're like, of course

577
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,000
you will. Oh my god.

578
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: I love that you ran into somebody like this. Yes,

579
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,880
this is perfect, totally pictured the whole thing, the look

580
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,920
on your face, I look, the look between you, and

581
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,119
the eye contact with the kids.

582
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: The best part was that. So after the round, after

583
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160
it was done and the kids were done, I literally

584
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,759
i'd been doing notes during it, did my rankings, closed

585
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:13,559
my computer, put it in my bag, and I was like,

586
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,519
see you guys in the judge room. Like, no, I

587
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,599
was not going to have any conversation. Yeah, I was

588
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,839
like bye. Then later, okay, that night, I knew there

589
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,839
was something about this judge's name because you can see

590
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,680
who's your judges are, and I was like, I recognize

591
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,720
that name, and I have a bad connotation with it.

592
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,200
Sure enough, I went back and looked at a previous

593
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,599
event and she'd given Xander like a really low score.

594
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: No she did not hunt, Wow, Well, of course she did.

595
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: Of course she did. She has no sense of humor, right,

596
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:55,359
super super serious. She probably thought Xander's piece just wasn't serious, right,

597
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,200
you know she's one of those, didn't you know. Yeah,

598
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:01,119
I don't resonate with this. This is the not well

599
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,920
researched enough whatever. I was like, oh my god, I

600
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,920
just don't like this type neither. Yeah, so okay, so

601
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,079
go back in the room. Okay, so Xander had his

602
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,400
That was when Xander was having his semifinal round. So

603
00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:18,119
then I was so nervous. I was asking the coach like,

604
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,000
do we know anything? Do we know anything? She's like,

605
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:22,640
I don't know. I don't know what his scores are.

606
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:27,039
Then I found out. Then Xander texted me and he's

607
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,720
like time for finals with like an emoji with sunglasses

608
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:31,039
on it.

609
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god.

610
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: Yes. So then so my friend's daughter had already had

611
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:43,759
her finals. Xander's category was so big that they had

612
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:46,559
a semi finals. Some of the other categories already had

613
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:51,759
their finals, so my friend already found out. Okay, so

614
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:56,640
out of the there's a top seven finalists. Then the

615
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,519
top five of the type seven are the ones that

616
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,559
qualify to go to state. So you can get to

617
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:06,319
the finals in your category and still not get to state,

618
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,240
which would be just so brutal. If you're in seventh

619
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:12,319
place or sixth place of the finalists, you're not going

620
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:12,680
to state.

621
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: So did he have to just do his his just

622
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,319
his one category.

623
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: Yes, so there's one category. So then he did the

624
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,160
semi finals and had three judges. So what they're doing

625
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,799
is they're tabulating all the scores, so from the one judge,

626
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,680
from the next judge, from the next judge, then from

627
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:32,400
the three judges, each judge is giving him a ranking. Okay,

628
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:35,599
so I knew that he had was in first place

629
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,319
from the first judge, but now he's had a second

630
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,039
judge and a third judge, and then three more judges

631
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:41,960
in the semi finals.

632
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's going either way. Yeah. Wow.

633
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,759
Speaker 3: So then when he's in the finals, he has five judges,

634
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,799
so that's going to wait heavily. So I did find

635
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:54,160
out later that he was in third place going into

636
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,640
the finals, which is great, but if you don't do

637
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880
well in the finals, and I've I've seen people have

638
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,079
first place, first place, second place, second place, go into

639
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:08,119
the finals and get last place and not be in

640
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,599
the top not getting award, right, so there's no sure thing. Yeah,

641
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,599
so yeah, So he did his finals. He told me

642
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:19,199
he felt like pretty good, but he was really worried

643
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,079
that he went over time. For the best reason. He's like, mom,

644
00:34:23,599 --> 00:34:28,159
So in the finals, normally there are only the kids

645
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,920
that are the entry, you know, the seven kids or

646
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,199
six or five kids, and the judge. But in the

647
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000
big finals, most of the kids were already done with

648
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,960
their finals. Tons of kids went to go watch the

649
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,599
finals of his round. So he said a packed room,

650
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,079
wow room, other parents, tons of kids.

651
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: Holy sister.

652
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, were you nervous

653
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440
And he goes, no, it made it better because I

654
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,239
feed off the.

655
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: Energy, like I had a crowd.

656
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: He's basical kind of doing stand up because his piece

657
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,440
is really funny. So he told me that he thought

658
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,400
he might have gone over time because he had to

659
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,920
pause for laughing after no way all his jokes, and

660
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,199
I was like, I love that. He's like I was

661
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,280
getting like really big laughs. I had to wait and.

662
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's good. You know, I'm excited for him,

663
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,559
and he's like, yeah, but you just like you don't know.

664
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,639
Speaker 3: But kids were laughing. But like some of the judges,

665
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:27,480
I wasn't sure.

666
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: But like I would think, if you're a judge and

667
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,559
you get that reaction from me, I don't know, like.

668
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but okay, So this is what happens. Afterward. It

669
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,079
was him and this other girl who was from his

670
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:41,000
category but didn't make it to the finals, and she

671
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,920
was like, she's like, Xander did really well. She goes,

672
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:48,400
but every single kid in this in this final round

673
00:35:48,599 --> 00:35:53,280
was amazing, and Xander goes, mom, these kids were so good.

674
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,760
He was like they were they were like phenomenal. He's like,

675
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,559
I don't know, it could go either way. He's like,

676
00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:02,840
I don't feel like I did way better than other people.

677
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,559
He's like, they were so so good. It was really

678
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:10,199
scary competition. So I didn't know. So we went into

679
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:13,280
the awaran ceremony. He wasn't nervous that during this or

680
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,599
was he He said he wasn't that nervous for the finals.

681
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:18,159
Speaker 1: Like waiting around him, he felt good.

682
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 3: Because he said, Well, he said it's because sometimes he's

683
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,800
more nervous when there's one judge and just the kids

684
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,800
because there's tension in the room. Yeah, and the judge

685
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,320
will sit there stone faced. Yeah, he's like it felt

686
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,199
better to have five judges plus all these kids because

687
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,480
he's like, everybody was joking with each other and yeah,

688
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:39,079
you know, you're in the finals and everybody's supporting each

689
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:41,280
other and you've got friends in the room who are

690
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,920
like supporting you. Now, the fact that he has no

691
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,079
like he can get up in front, I mean, that's

692
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,079
one of the scariest things for people is to get

693
00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:51,400
up and speak in front of a crowd and stuff

694
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,159
like that. I know, And the fact that he has

695
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,199
he doesn't, it doesn't bother him is a huge I

696
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,519
guess he gets nervous ahead of time and he gets

697
00:36:59,639 --> 00:37:03,000
nervous like I think, right, well, he does get nervous

698
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:04,920
in the rounds, but he said he wasn't nervous in

699
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,559
the finals. He said it was partially because he was

700
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:10,280
in the finals, right, So he's.

701
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,159
Speaker 1: Like he's made it in his mind. Yeah, I don't.

702
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: I can't control the outcome, but like I made it

703
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,719
this far and that's good, didn't embarrass I didn't embarrass myself,

704
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,639
Like right, yeah, I think he already felt good when

705
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:24,840
he made semi finals, but then making it like I know,

706
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it was like yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because then anything else is creamy.

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Speaker 3: And he even said because before this, leading up to it,

709
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I really want it, and I was like, but there's

711
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no way to know, like it's so arbitrary, and he's like,

712
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,960
I know, I just really want it. But then right

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before the thing, he's like, you know what if I

714
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don't make it, if I don't go to State, it's okay.

715
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
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716
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:54,159
so fun. It's like the time of my life. And

717
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:56,719
he's like, so whatever happens.

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00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:58,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, such a great kid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So the award ceremony happens. All the different

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Speaker 1: Now, how long have you been there at this point?

781
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Speaker 3: Like, but well, this is a twelve hour day, so

782
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at this point I don't even know nine hours right then,

783
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So the award ceremony happens at like whatever time of

784
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night it is. This is where some parents do show

785
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up for this. You got all the judges are in

786
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the room, all the kids are in the room, and

787
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then they bring you up category by category and they

788
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:01,679
they go in play the final. All the finalists go

789
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,079
to the stage. Seventh finalists that seventh place and sixth

790
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,440
place are not going to state. So that you don't

791
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,039
want to be seventh or six. So I was so nervous.

792
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:16,840
And at this point we already knew that Julie's daughter

793
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:19,239
was going to State, so we were relaxed about her,

794
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,199
but we didn't know what place she was going to take. Okay, okay,

795
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,280
So her category went up first, and then they she

796
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,880
made she was second. Well was her category was declamation,

797
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,199
which is where you deliver a speech. Yeah, and she

798
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:40,440
does really well, so she got second place. Smaller category though,

799
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,679
I think there were only fourteen kids in hers, So

800
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,480
it was going to be more difficult for Xander to

801
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:51,360
qualify because a lot more competition. Seven kids thing, so

802
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,960
top seven are on stage when they get to Xander

803
00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:58,239
seventh place, not Xander. They always call out by the

804
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,360
high school, so it'll be like, uh, from Valencia High School,

805
00:43:03,519 --> 00:43:05,519
and then it's the name, so I'm just hoping they

806
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,800
don't say the name of my kids' school, so they

807
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,400
go for Valencia High School. Seventh place. This person in

808
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,280
the sixth place from shamana U huh, so we knew

809
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,719
at that point. You can hear me on the video

810
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,199
going qualify.

811
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the video is awesome.

812
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,159
Speaker 3: Fifth place from such and such a high school at

813
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:30,000
this time, like Stephanie's high school and this place not Stephanie's.

814
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,000
Then there were three kids on stage and I'm like,

815
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:37,519
there's no way he's over third place, third place not Xander.

816
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:41,440
And then second place was Xander. Wow, he almost was first.

817
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,079
He almost won the whole thing. Insane. I know he was.

818
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,599
Speaker 1: We probably did win the whole I mean he was

819
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,840
up there the final two. Like that's huge, I know,

820
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,480
I fucking Hugh.

821
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:56,079
Speaker 3: It was really cute because it's crowd. They're also supportive

822
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:59,000
of each other. Yeah, kids make friends all these different

823
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,280
high schools. They're all rooting for each other. It's the

824
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,480
they're all very competitive kids. They're all just nice kids,

825
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,039
you know.

826
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, they're so not like basketball.

827
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,519
Speaker 3: They're all hugging each other and saying good job. And

828
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,360
even the kids like from our school that didn't make

829
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,280
it to the finals are so happy for the kids

830
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:20,599
that do.

831
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: It's like a really nice I love that.

832
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so that happens. We're all happy. So what happens? Nick? Like?

833
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,679
Where is is the So the state competition this year

834
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,480
is local. It's in Culver City, Okay, and it's in

835
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:41,960
May May second through whoa I know.

836
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: You guys, are you going to stay down there? Are

837
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,840
you just going to drive down there?

838
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: Maybe we might maybe stay over Friday night because he

839
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,679
has to be on stage doing it. We have to

840
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,400
be checked in at like eight am. Yeah. On the

841
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,199
other hand, I don't know if it's you.

842
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: Know, when I when I and when she was doing

843
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,639
Natalia had a volleyball and it was like in culvers

844
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,639
or whatever. But it's like kind of there was one

845
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,440
time that I was glad. I usually just drove her,

846
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
but there was one time I got her and I

847
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,920
got a room for the night, like from before the

848
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,920
game and all the parents and this was the year

849
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,480
that I loved all the parents. And then there was

850
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,679
parents from other schools that came and joined us. It

851
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,880
was really nice. There was like a fire pit outside.

852
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,119
It was like a you know, a mass what do

853
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:32,159
you call Marriott or whatever, but it was like the back,

854
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,719
you know, they had like this like fire deck and

855
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,320
everybody was just talking and it was just really nice

856
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,800
to have that bonding. That was the one time where

857
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,760
I felt like, oh, this was nice to spend the

858
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,079
night before a game.

859
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: Well, the only thing I'm wondering, m I mean, I

860
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,880
could maybe talk the other my mom friends yea to

861
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,199
it and doing it too, because that would that might

862
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,800
make it fun if we all got oh yeah yeah,

863
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,239
or if we both got rit whatever. But the only

864
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,920
thing is, like the other kids from our school, it's

865
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,320
a small group that qualified for state. There's like four

866
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,559
or five maybe five kids. Yeah, and I don't know

867
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:14,000
any of their parents. These are just random kids in school, right,

868
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:15,639
so i'd have to.

869
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure Tina's mom's not going to be there.

870
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:21,079
Speaker 3: Oh god, no, well no, yeah, well Tina didn't.

871
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Qualify for state, and yeah I get that.

872
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,639
Speaker 3: Mollie didn't qualify for state. Yeah, so I maybe, but yeah,

873
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,880
just for the convenience of being really well, that's nice case, yeah,

874
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,639
in case we could just walk over there like mm,

875
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:40,519
because are you want to go take a rest or

876
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:44,440
something during down to I don't know, I never I

877
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,599
just I just never really did it when with Natalia.

878
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,199
But I when you're bringing this, I just remember the

879
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,000
one or two times we did do it.

880
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: It was so convenient. It was nice, you know, like

881
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,360
going back and forth across the street. We had a

882
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,639
place that like, you know, our stuff was I don't know, it.

883
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: Would have been more fun. I think if it was

884
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,480
out of state, I mean not but out of LA

885
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,760
because last year it was in Fresno, I guess the

886
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,920
year before it was in like Carlsbad. Yeah, and then

887
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,840
you have a reason. Then you can just get a

888
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,199
hotel right by where it is. But this is like

889
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,760
it's it's a weird because Culver City.

890
00:47:20,119 --> 00:47:24,079
Speaker 1: Yeah that right, Yeah, yeah, it's like on a Saturday morning,

891
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:25,519
it's like a thirty five minute drive.

892
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I don't know anyway, Yeah, but that was

893
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,199
so that was really exciting. So then so then it's

894
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,880
time to leave. Now I've got Molly with us again.

895
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:42,440
I picked her up in the morning, I got Xander.

896
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,960
I start hearing rumblings when we're in the auditor before

897
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:51,679
before the ceremony really starts. I'm hearing these kids rumbling about,

898
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,199
like Tina doesn't have a ride at home. So I

899
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,599
tried to ignore it. I just like I pretended I

900
00:47:58,639 --> 00:48:00,719
didn't hear anybody. I wasn't going to be like, oh

901
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,519
I got yeah. So I'm like, oh no, I'm not

902
00:48:03,519 --> 00:48:06,559
not doing it. So I like kind of make myself scarce.

903
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,000
But but Xander's sitting in this row with them. So

904
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:13,039
at one point I was talking to Xander again, and

905
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:19,639
then I hear Xander's mom and it's the it's not

906
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,679
even it's not even Tina, it's Molly again, Like, Tina

907
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,960
doesn't have a ride, Is there any way you could

908
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,079
take her again? And she this girl doesn't look at me. Why,

909
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,519
it's just like looking off into space, Like what is.

910
00:48:35,519 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: Molly her agent? Why is she speaking up for?

911
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,039
Speaker 3: I guess I get that Tina's maybe embarrassed that she

912
00:48:43,079 --> 00:48:45,239
doesn't have a ride, but like, and it's not again,

913
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,239
it's not Tina's stick, Like, right, you don't have anybody

914
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,679
that's even communicating with you that's even like.

915
00:48:53,039 --> 00:48:53,639
Speaker 1: How you doing?

916
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: I guess not.

917
00:48:56,159 --> 00:49:00,519
Speaker 1: I mean she's gone her all day, like twelve excuse me,

918
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:03,280
twelve hours and nobody's like checking in with her and

919
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,000
going like, hey, how you doing?

920
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,079
Speaker 3: Do you have a ride?

921
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: Right?

922
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,559
Speaker 3: I guess they expected her to take the bus again.

923
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Something's up there.

924
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:17,159
Speaker 3: It's so weird that even later I was I was like, Okay,

925
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,239
I mean, what am I gonna do? What am I

926
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,480
gonna do? I say, no, I'm not going to drive

927
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:25,280
you home? So I drove her home way out of

928
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,119
the way. You're so tired, she had her keys this time.

929
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

930
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: And then I dropped the other girl off and then

931
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,559
I was like, let's go get some dinner and I

932
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,519
took Xander to sushi. Ooh, and then we got to

933
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:41,119
have a little fun debrief time.

934
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,119
Speaker 1: Oh that's so nice.

935
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 3: It was great.

936
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,519
Speaker 1: It was he he was just happy about it, like

937
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he must have been.

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Speaker 3: He was so happy. But he was so tired because

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imagine too, he's in ap classes, He's got a lot

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of homework every night. He had a full week. Then

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Friday went straight from school and had to compete and

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got home late. Then Saturday twelve hours and then he

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had a rehearsal the next day too for the play

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for Greece.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the Grease. Watch it. I just thinking about I

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don't want you to watch it. Don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you should watch.

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Speaker 1: Don't watch it. Don't watch it.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch it.

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Speaker 1: Don't you don't don't psychology, don't watch it?

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Speaker 3: So funny. Yeah, So anyway, he's just really tired. It

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was a lot of build up for all these kids. Dude,

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what if he wins state that he's not going to

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This is all from all over the state, the best

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of the best, and I gotta be honest. Xander's speech

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is good, but mostly because it's funny and it's like personable.

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He doesn't quite deliver his speeches the way the other kids.

958
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It's not like Chris blocking. He's like, I just go

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with what I feel in the moment. It's genuine, and

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he's like, I like to be conversational. I don't like

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to be super performative, but like he does what he does,

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and he's freaking funny. What if he's gonna be a

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stand up wants to I.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't totally see that, So I have a frog in

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my throat. He could have, like he could have his

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Netflix special. I'm serious.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I do not wish You're gonna be anybody though, I know,

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but you.

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Speaker 1: Can be his little you know, his stage mom, his mamager.

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Speaker 3: He's just he's a really funny kid. I'm just very

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I'm very very proud of him. I am too. I'm

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proud of how much, how how much work he puts

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into like what he does. You know, it's he's so different.

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Speaker 1: He's disciplined.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, who are you? He's it's he's got

977
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a good mix of me and John because John is

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a more disciplined than I am, and but I think

979
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he gets like some of his some humor. But John's

980
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also super smart and yeah, you know, he's just he

981
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got like some good yeah, some good quality. That's great.

982
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He's just gonna go far, this kid. And he's also

983
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I just want to say, he's also really caring, Like

984
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he's very empathetic and he's always supportive and like if

985
00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,119
for some of his friends where things didn't go that well,

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he was.

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Speaker 1: Super like, oh no, I could see.

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Speaker 3: This kid's such a great kid, Like, oh, I'm so

989
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upset that they didn't like hit the finals in their

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category or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's just like, I haven't come on the

992
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show soon. Yeah, I love to hear his like side

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of things.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't been on in a while, I know, maybe

995
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,960
like on his spring break. Yeah yeah, I'll have him

996
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come in anyway. Okay, this was has and lows, But

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before we go, let's talk about the Chase Hayley Project.

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That's Christas. Stroup is doing this for her friend Sarah,

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who lost her son Chase to suicide and he was

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only twenty one, and she's trying to break the stigma

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surrounding suicide and help fill the gaps in her community

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check that out and get a better score on there.

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Speaker 1: Just talking to him out last night at dinner with

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Natali and her friend. Oh their friend needs a car. Okay,

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use Adam, I don't. I gave him. I gave him

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Speaker 3: Oh good, okay. And then also Ferncandle, Oh no, we

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already did that one before. And oh yes, our friend

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Oscar has the Queer Youth Resource in Vancouver, Washington. Let

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me give you the thing. Q y r C, Vancouver,

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w a dot org q y R see Queer Youth

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Resource Center, Vancouver, Washington. Okay, that's our that's our friend,

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Laura Wingfield's friend from college. They need our help. Get

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on it nice, Thanks everybody. Thanks Kaylen's prepare it now,

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don't have it up. It's good. Letting go,