WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:06.879 Big Food and Beyond. 2 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:10.960 With Cliff and Bobo. These guys are your favorites, so 3 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:20.760 like say subscribe and rade it live Stock and met. 4 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:24.879 On yesterday and listening watching limb always keep its watching. 5 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.120 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James. 6 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:31.640 Boobo Fay Bobo? 7 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:32.560 Are you doing? Man? 8 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:33.799 All right? What's up? Cliff? 9 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:35.880 I been real busy. I haven't talked to you a 10 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:38.479 little while. I mean, we got so many recordings done 11 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:39.920 that we've taken like a week and a half off 12 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:42.439 because people are out of town and stuff. Seems like 13 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.840 it's been forever since I've heard you. My how you've grown. 14 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:46.840 Thanks? 15 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:50.960 Yeah, intellectually, Yeah, your voice must be three or four 16 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:52.079 inches taller. It's amazing. 17 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.920 Yeah. I can't believe we lost another we lost another one. 18 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.000 I know, we might as well just get that that 19 00:00:58.119 --> 00:00:59.759 bum out over with like at the top of the 20 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:02.640 show here. Yeah, of course, Jane Goodall has passed away. 21 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.519 That's a total bum out. Just an amazing woman in 22 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.799 so many ways. I mean, I don't think I need 23 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:09.920 to go over too much what she's done. But as 24 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:12.200 far as primatology goes, and of course everybody knows that 25 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:14.680 she was interested in the Sasquatch subject, and she thought 26 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.760 thought that these things were out there. You know, I 27 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.719 have her autograph. A good friend of mine kind of 28 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.280 ran across her at an airport at one point and 29 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.760 she signed us a thing for me and this is 30 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:29.920 cliff something that something the effective. Maybe we discover the 31 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.079 mystery still out there, I think is what she wrote, 32 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.319 something that efect. I don't have it in front of me, unfortunately, 33 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.799 but yeah, just just what a heartache. Just another another 34 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.599 figure in the Bigfoot community dropping. I mean, because she's 35 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.000 tangentially Bigfoot community, right, yeah, I mean. 36 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:47.719 We claim her. She didn't known us claiming her. I 37 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:50.200 don't think, because actually I told the story about when 38 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:52.879 we were talking about doctor Meldren passing. Just I used 39 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.400 the story of the Jane get All story with him, 40 00:01:55.400 --> 00:01:57.640 but I actually got to speak her kind of like well, 41 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.000 I was on a speakerphone with Rimber rip life. 42 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:02.799 I do remember Riplin'll never met him, but I remember him. 43 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.840 He was in contact with her for years, like over 44 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:08.120 the big Foot stuff, and then she also followed it. 45 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.199 He also looked for the Ivory build woodpecker for like 46 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.719 three years down to the swamps, and he had a 47 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:16.240 couple of big Foot action things there. But yeah, she 48 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:17.800 liked him, like because he was a He's a pretty 49 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:20.520 classic character. I mean, he could little nuts have had 50 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.000 a he was. He was funny, and he was funny, 51 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.800 he was smart and and he said, yeah, he goes, 52 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:27.599 I'm gonna you know, he said he knewer and I 53 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:29.400 was like no, And he had like signed stuff or 54 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.960 he had pictures with her and stuff, and then said yeah. Yeah. 55 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:33.319 We talked, you know, a couple of times a year. 56 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:35.479 And then he said, I'm gonna call her. You know. 57 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.479 I said, dude, I got to hear this. And I said, 58 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:38.840 I want to hear this, you know, big foot. So 59 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.800 he goes, okay, and he called her and he talked 60 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:44.360 to her for about like fifteen minutes something like that, 61 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:47.000 and I got to chime in a little bit, you know, 62 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:48.960 like I said, well, I said, you know, I just 63 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.400 told her what I knew about some things, and she 64 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.319 wanted She was she's always really interested in like the 65 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:56.159 native perspective with the old like that, like what the 66 00:02:56.840 --> 00:02:58.599 what like you like their diet and that sort of 67 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:02.719 things and any kind of breeding patterns, and she was 68 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:06.000 interested in that. She wasn't you know, in like scary 69 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.560 stories and stuff she wanted to know, like biological aspects 70 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:08.840 of it. 71 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:11.360 Very cool and a huge loss, you know, because she 72 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:15.159 was such a great person that we could, as you said, 73 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:17.919 claim it's like well good all things, that these things 74 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.680 are probably real, Like why don't you you know that? 75 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.560 That's basically I guess her use I guess in the 76 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.919 communities like that. She was open minded enough, So why 77 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:28.680 can't you, mister and missus skeptic? 78 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:32.479 You know? Yeah, she called jeffa she called She told 79 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.319 Jeff she really admired him. 80 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.479 Yeah, and bind and Ogle as well, I believe. Yeah, 81 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:39.919 I've seen pictures of both those gentlemen with her. 82 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:42.199 I'm pretty sure I took that picture of Meldrene with it, 83 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:44.919 almost like should I take that picture? 84 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:48.120 Listeners should go back and listen to the Doctor Meldren 85 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:50.680 Tribute if they want to hear Bobo's awesome story about 86 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:54.199 heckling Jane Goodall fans in line for a book signing 87 00:03:54.919 --> 00:03:56.479 or I guess it's speaking of him, right. 88 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:59.080 Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a book signing fall. 89 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:00.639 I mean it was a speaking event followed by a 90 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.039 book signing, and every person there got in line just 91 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.000 to get to get something signed. 92 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:08.879 It was amazing that she was still on tour and 93 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.080 you know, going out and delivering lectures to the public. 94 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.759 It sounds like that's she passed away in the midst 95 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.439 of a series of scheduled dates to go do that. 96 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:20.959 I heard her last interview. She was yeah, she was 97 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.720 still She hadn't taken a day off. She worked right 98 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:24.920 up till like the day she died. Wow. 99 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:29.639 Meldrum too, actually yeah, And I mean he's obviously taken 100 00:04:29.720 --> 00:04:31.279 days off, he got weekends and stuff, but he was 101 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:32.439 hoping to retire the next year. 102 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.079 Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. 103 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.040 It's been a tragic couple of weeks a month or so, 104 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.600 you know, with doctor Meldrum dropping and then of course 105 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.480 Scott Violette dropping and now Jane Goodall checked out and 106 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.519 U and actually you don't know, Bobs, but you remember 107 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.120 my buddy Jeff from Santa Cruz. 108 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:50.199 Yeah, yeah, he died. 109 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:55.120 He died over this past weekend. He was younger than me. Dang. Yeah, 110 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.079 that's the fourth person. And you know, I can't really 111 00:04:57.120 --> 00:04:59.279 say Jane Goodall's exactly in my sphere, you know, but 112 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.160 kinda is, you know. That's and of course jeffa is 113 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.199 very close so he just passed away. I gotta go 114 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:07.879 down to Santa Cruz next weekend for the funeral. He 115 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:12.040 lived on that wacky ranch down there outside of Sokel, 116 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.360 and I think they had sasquatches. But Jeff is such 117 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.000 a weird guy, you know. He like he said no, no, no, 118 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:21.040 there was something there. He thought that he had sadys, sadyrs. 119 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:26.160 He was just such a weird, weird guy. He told 120 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:29.160 me some crazy stories about that ranch. And he lived 121 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:33.560 right on Sokel Creek on this weird Junkyard property is 122 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.040 like five long, skinny acres and he lived at the 123 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:40.879 very very bottom in this ranshackle converted garage that was 124 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.920 certainly not permitted for, you know, any life to be 125 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.639 in there, you know, like maybe chickens or something. But 126 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.600 like he was living in there with his buddy Dan 127 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.519 and Ben and some other people, and they had crazy 128 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:54.720 I had crazy stuff happened down there. Like I remember 129 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:57.240 one night I was down there, and it is a 130 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.240 long time ago. This is probably early nineties or something 131 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:02.480 where hang it out in the I think it's probably 132 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:04.480 summer because I think the window or door was opened 133 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:08.680 or something and we heard goats and like coming from 134 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.079 the creek and there's no way goats where I mean, 135 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.600 I guess goats could have gotten loose, but like there 136 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.439 was a goat down townd like, which is why he 137 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.839 thought that there were satyrs around, because he'd hear it often. 138 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:23.480 One time they were coming. Like there was like an 139 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.839 upper property, and I'm the guy who owned this place. 140 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.079 He's long passed away. He was old when I when 141 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.839 I was going down there in the nineties, his name 142 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:34.920 was Jerry, and there were probably three or four, I 143 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.360 guess buildings for lack of a better term on the 144 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.600 upper property, although some of them were probably trailers. But 145 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.399 you couldn't see him anymore because the guy was a 146 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:48.120 junk collector, like this insane hoarder. Anything that may have 147 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:51.079 a use in the future he would take and then 148 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.120 like he had just put it on the property somewhere. 149 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:54.920 And you do that for a few decades and you 150 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.920 don't you don't see your house anymore. And Jeff lived 151 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:00.399 Jeff and Dan and those guys are Ben Whoever's roommate 152 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:02.920 at the time. They lived at the very bottom of 153 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.199 the property. So we had to drive through this like 154 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:12.240 really tight one lane road with a wall of debris. 155 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:12.680 I can't. 156 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:14.199 It was not refuse. I don't want to give the 157 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.720 idea that it was like you know, flies buzzing around 158 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.480 in piles of you know, crap and food waste. It 159 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:23.000 wasn't like that. It was like like scrap metal and 160 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.920 buckets and old cars and tires and things that might 161 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.120 have a use someday. And there was a legit fifteen 162 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.959 foot wall on either side of this road all the 163 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:36.759 way down to the bottom. But they were driving down 164 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.600 one night, and of course Jeff, being a wacky guy, 165 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:44.319 he describes I think he saw a sasquatch because whatever 166 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:47.240 this was, it moved. It didn't bob its head at all. 167 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.800 It was a dark shadow seven to eight feet tall. 168 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:55.360 It just basically stepped over the barbed wire fence on 169 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.639 the right hand side of the road from the Persimmon 170 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:02.399 orchard and then floated across the road and then down 171 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:06.600 into Sokel Creek. And I go, yeap, that's a sasquatches. Now, now, 172 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:09.519 the way it moved, it had to be a spirit. Well, 173 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:14.160 you know, what about a compliant gate And I described 174 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:17.000 how sasquatch. No, No, not the way this move, man, No, 175 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.680 it was just so smooth, like there's no head bob. 176 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:25.040 It just like practically floated across the road. And it's like, dude, 177 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:28.399 you probably saw a sasquatch. And like another dude named 178 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.320 Dan used to live there. And again this weird ramshackle, 179 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:36.639 you know, garage that they lived in. It had a 180 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.240 triangular sort of roof on it, you know, as many 181 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.279 places do, but that that top triangle part was a window, 182 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.679 and he remembers being in his room and they would 183 00:08:45.679 --> 00:08:48.799 have quote unquote the tall man would come by every 184 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:51.440 once in a while and then look in their windows, 185 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:53.440 like that tall, tall window. The thing had to be 186 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:56.399 like eight or ten feet off the ground, and the 187 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.879 tall man would come and look in the windows sometimes. 188 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:03.039 And then another time he heard somebody or something like 189 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:06.679 climb up the broken tractor that was leaning against the 190 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.399 building that they lived in and went on the roof 191 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.600 and ran around for a while and then jumped off 192 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:14.840 and ran away. Just crazy crazy stuff would happen there. 193 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.000 And of course they knew Mike Rugg. They told Mike 194 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.559 about all that stuff. But you know, Jeff's version of 195 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.639 it was always very very weird, like you know, like, well, 196 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:24.759 the UFO landed in the field over there, and then 197 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.600 this happened, and just like crazy wacky, wacky stories all 198 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:30.039 the time. But I think they'd probably just had a 199 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:30.919 local sasquatch. 200 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.399 I've already had that one about like the giant orb, 201 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.120 like the UFO then coming over the shed. 202 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.000 Yeah yeah, then they had the crossroads down there where 203 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.159 that they came face to face with with Pan, you know, 204 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:45.759 the satyr Pan at one time. There's Yeah, he was 205 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.600 a really really weird guy and one of my best friends. 206 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.600 I just love him tremendously and he'll be missed deeply too. 207 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.919 So got I got to go to a funeral next week, 208 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:57.360 But Jeff himself told me that, you know, we're at 209 00:09:57.399 --> 00:09:59.080 the age where we go to a lot more funerals 210 00:09:59.120 --> 00:09:59.600 and weddings. 211 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:02.120 Yeah, So I was just thinking that day. 212 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:04.879 Would it be insensitive to say that I hope your 213 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:06.799 trip down their pans out. 214 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:10.000 That's the kind of thing he would appreciate. 215 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.519 You just don't get too many Pan references on this podcast. 216 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.279 Not enough. No, Yeah, I was out in New York 217 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:19.679 this past weekend as well. 218 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:21.000 Oh yeah, how'd that go? 219 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:23.360 It was all right? It was right first year event, 220 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:26.519 inaugural event for the New York big Foot Conference. It 221 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:28.799 was a lot of fun because I flew out two 222 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.919 days early and hung out with John Wilke from Squatshachusetts 223 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:32.960 for a couple of days. 224 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:35.480 I blamed you for the Red Sox loss. I said, due, 225 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:37.720 they lost to the Yankees because Clif didn't cheer hard enough. 226 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.320 It's all his fault. Go sports. 227 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:42.320 We watched it, though, we watched it. 228 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:44.960 Not bad, right, they lost, so he gets he takes 229 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:46.240 it so harder they lose. 230 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:49.039 He was pretty mad. He was pretty mad, especially I 231 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:52.399 guess Boston and Yankees apparently have a rivalry. Oh dude, 232 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:53.480 you knew about this. 233 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.559 Yeah, dude, I'm a Red Talx fan. Uh go sports. 234 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.799 Speaking of sports, I had the worst day to day 235 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.799 last night. I freaking listened. I asked a couple of 236 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.679 my buddies that are fantasy football, like you know, they 237 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:10.000 played like multiple tons of leagues and teams and they 238 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.120 studied like hours a day, and I was like, God, 239 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:17.759 I just think I should start Cam Scattaboo over Ashton Jenty. 240 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:19.679 He was like the Raiders first round pick and Scottobo 241 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:21.879 was like a third third round pick or fifth round 242 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:24.360 pick something like that. Anyways, Jenty was like the number 243 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.320 one back coming out of college. And he's like getting 244 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:29.759 all the high he won the Heisman Trophy, and I 245 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:31.600 was like, I think Scout was gonna do it then, 246 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:34.320 So the last minute I benched him and put in 247 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:38.480 genty and he played sunny. But last night freaking Scotty 248 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:42.279 rand for like ninety eight yards, three touchdowns, scored thirty points, 249 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:44.200 and I just was so mad. 250 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.440 I was like, Ah, I'm still mesmerized by his name. 251 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:48.600 Scataboo Is that right? 252 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:49.919 Yeah, it's his real name. 253 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:53.159 That's an awesome name. Well, it's just an awesome sounding word. 254 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.080 I like awesome sounding words, like, you know, gazebo and 255 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.399 things like that, you know, but Skataboo is definitely in there. 256 00:11:58.440 --> 00:11:58.879 That's cool. 257 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.120 But I think that is like I think it's it's 258 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.120 gonna be like Scotch or Welsh or something. Oh okay, yes, 259 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.759 I'm guessing Scottay sounds like it's Scottish to me. It's 260 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:10.279 just a neat sounding sound. I like that. 261 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.320 That's cool. I'd root for him for that reason. 262 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.639 Anyway, people that want to hear about that, let's talk 263 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:16.799 bigfoot stuff. What do we got? 264 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.320 Oh wait, well, before we go too much further, John 265 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.360 and I we had a whole data kill. So we 266 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:26.159 went to University of Massachusetts and visited with Todd disstel Oh, 267 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.200 got to go to his lab and hang out with 268 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.039 him and all that sort of stuff. I made a 269 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.120 bet with him. I made a bet that I'm probably 270 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:33.440 gonna lose, but I think it would be a good 271 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.759 bet anyway. I said, dude, five years, bigfoots are no 272 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:36.840 longer mystery animals. 273 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.279 I've lost that met so many times over the last 274 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:39.840 twenty years. 275 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:45.080 Well, now it's my turn. That's my turn, I said. Well, 276 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.600 but actually I said, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. 277 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:49.399 Before we do this, how long does it take to 278 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:52.279 get published in Nature? You know, because when this thing's done, 279 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.039 it's not going to be a small sort of you know, 280 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:57.279 like journal. It's going to be something big, right obviously. 281 00:12:57.600 --> 00:12:59.919 And he goes, oh, I've been published like four months. 282 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.000 Five months. They go okay, cool, yeah, five years. So 283 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.200 five years I've got a steak dinner and some bourbon 284 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:07.960 writing on it. So he did. He he did say 285 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:10.360 he's more than happy to test any vible sample I 286 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:12.519 send him. And he showed me around his lab and 287 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:15.120 showed me some of the It was funny we're in 288 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:16.720 his lab. He goes, yeah, this will do this, and 289 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.559 this this is the centrifugion does blah blah blah, and 290 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.080 this this machine here, and they all look like microwaves 291 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.879 to me, you know, like these big microwaves. Yeah, this 292 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.720 costs like forty fifty thousand dollars. And what this one 293 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:30.200 does is blah blah blah blah blah. And and he goes, yeah, 294 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.159 this one over here, and you put any sample in there, 295 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:36.200 it actually extracts the DNA material somehow. By he didn't 296 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:37.840 say somehow because he knows how. 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And I've got a 351 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.720 steak dinner on less than five years. It could be you. 352 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:33.600 It could be you trying to encourage a little bit 353 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:37.320 of a you know, rivalry or you know competition. You know, 354 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:39.879 it's like, why don't you do it instead? I don't 355 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.159 care who discovers that. I'm an equal opportunity to discover. 356 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.240 Yeah, well, you know what, I think it's gonna give 357 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.840 a big shot. There's that new thoas scene video came 358 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:52.759 out yesterday May not Australia, Victoria. Like I guess, it's 359 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:55.960 like forty to fifty miles from Melbourne, up on the 360 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.519 Yarra Mountain range. The guy got real compelling thermal. It 361 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.600 looks like a thalacy going down and around some kangaroos. 362 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.240 He's got pretty good. Uh, he's got a pulsar like 363 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.200 you got mat. I think it's I think he's got 364 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.319 the fifty So it's pretty clear. I mean it's look, 365 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.319 it looks good to me. I mean it's I mean 366 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:15.960 he's had some videos out there that are kind of 367 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.839 it's that ambiguous world on YouTube. I think he's had 368 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.680 foxes up there and other things that have been proven 369 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:24.599 not to be thallacing. But he's got a couple of 370 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.519 clips that look like a thallacing to me, and this 371 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:28.839 new one really looks like one, and I think I 372 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:29.519 think he's got it. 373 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:31.400 Oh yeah, I'm looking at that right now. It does 374 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:33.000 look kind of does look interesting. 375 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.400 Yeah, I mean if that, if that turns out, dude, like, 376 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.799 I mean, that's going to just throw gas on the 377 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.400 fire for cryptis. I mean, that's a Lazarus species, you know, 378 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:44.559 of course it's a it's it's not there's no question 379 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:46.799 that was around. We got you know, bodies of them 380 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:50.039 and footage of them. But they've been extinct supposedly for 381 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.440 one hundred years, almost like ninety years. So if those 382 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.000 things turn out, they have been hidden, you know, down 383 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.319 there the whole time is still living and breeding. I mean, 384 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:00.759 it's gonna give so much hope to like, like people 385 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.079 are like, well, maybe sasquatches or Yawey's down there, you know, 386 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:04.720 maybe that is a possibility. 387 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.920 Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know enough about him and stuff, but. 388 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:10.359 He's got other videos where he breaks it down, where 389 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:13.759 he breaks down like the I Am the intermembal index, 390 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:16.880 like the the legs and this thing don't match anything 391 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.880 but a Tholos scene he's got. He's got some really 392 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:22.079 interesting videos on there. He's a smart dude. 393 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:24.240 Maybe we grab him for the podcast too. 394 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:26.400 Then I've written to him. I used to be in 395 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.680 touch with them, like several years ago. I just wrot 396 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:30.319 to him again last night, saying, I know you're getting 397 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:34.839 flooded now, but we'd love to have you on. Well cool, So, uh, 398 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.240 should I derailed the conversation? 399 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.240 My train of thought was derailed. That's a topical news item. 400 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:44.960 Yeah, yeah, which is kind of what we're doing today. 401 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:47.160