Speaker 1: And what is up, cult members, it's your boy Catalyst.
Speaker 1: And normally right now you would be hearing TMC with
Speaker 1: me and you boy Sean Chris from Kill the mocking Birds,
Speaker 1: but instead I thought it was really important that I
Speaker 1: bring this episode that I recorded with Heidi Love to
Speaker 1: the cult members before the JFK files are released, because
Speaker 1: we're talking about you guessed it, the JFK files. And
Speaker 1: so with Jonathan and Jacob giving me this great opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk to you beautiful cult members, and I say
Speaker 1: you're beautiful and biased because I'm a cult member too.
Speaker 2: I listen to these guys, I love them.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to give this opportunity, or get
Speaker 1: take this opportunity to be able to bring to you
Speaker 1: one of the coolest episodes that I did in recent
Speaker 1: for my season five. However, it's not going to hit
Speaker 1: season five exclusively here only on the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 1: So thank you guys for listening, and thank you Jonathan
Speaker 1: and Jacob for giving me this amazing opportunity.
Speaker 2: To speak to the COLT members. I hope you guys
Speaker 2: enjoy this.
Speaker 3: Let's go and open up that third eye.
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Speaker 6: Welcome fellow truders in conspiracy Junkies to another episode White Rabbit.
Speaker 6: I am your host, Catterlyst Jones, and I'm bringing the
Speaker 6: fucking heat in season five.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm gonna hit you and hit
Speaker 1: you and hit you and hit you, and you're not
Speaker 1: even gonna be able to breathe.
Speaker 2: And when you come up for air, you're like, no,
Speaker 2: I can't breathe. I can't breathe. I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you breathe.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, no, Biddy, Love is in the
Speaker 1: motherfucking building.
Speaker 2: Bitch, can't breathe again?
Speaker 1: What is up?
Speaker 2: Friend? I am doing good and you're doing great.
Speaker 1: That was awesome, man, there has been so much going
Speaker 1: on since I've had you on the show, and fucking
Speaker 1: Donald Trumps your president. Whether you like it or not,
Speaker 1: you have a rock what no, I will say that
Speaker 1: got him a little today. Yeah, we are right because
Speaker 1: JFK is what we're going to be diving into.
Speaker 2: And this is Zionist.
Speaker 1: I mean Donald Trump said that he is he is
Speaker 1: going to release the JFK file, So why don't we
Speaker 1: talk about this a little bit before he does? And
Speaker 1: I will say I did have Corey Hughes on the.
Speaker 2: Show talking about JFK.
Speaker 1: And man, that was some eye opening shit that he
Speaker 1: had to say.
Speaker 2: Well, and mine is kind of all around it. It's
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good because I knew you had Corey
Speaker 2: on and this is a little bit different. This is
Speaker 2: all the nuance and weirdol stuff that's around the circle
Speaker 2: of It's not the Grassy Knoll. You'll be surprised. It's yeah,
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm gonna bring you. I was the
Speaker 2: second gunman on the Grassy Hole. Yeah, it's not that today,
Speaker 2: but definitely it is very interesting. And when I ran
Speaker 2: into it, I was like, what the hell? I mean?
Speaker 2: Of course, right, because you're just like, uh, okay, strange
Speaker 2: And as I researched it more and more and I
Speaker 2: have some pictures, I'll pop up here in a minute.
Speaker 2: But I was like, what, how did we end up here?
Speaker 2: And we're even not going to talk about Trump in
Speaker 2: the way you think we might be. Yes, he's releasing
Speaker 2: those papers. He has to, because I'm going to tell
Speaker 2: you why at the end. But I'm shocked he's going
Speaker 2: to because he comes up in all this business and
Speaker 2: not in the way you might think. So, yeah, I
Speaker 2: love it. I love it. Yeah, you know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to bring it conspiracy because.
Speaker 1: That's what you do, because you know what, I was
Speaker 1: honestly thinking, cash Battel was supposed to be. Oh, he
Speaker 1: might be verified tomorrow, right, Was he verified today? I
Speaker 1: am not sure, Hey, sirih was cash Battel verified today?
Speaker 2: Okay? So maybe tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Okay, But apparently on day one, on day one, the
Speaker 3: Epstein client list and the Jiselane Maxwell list.
Speaker 2: Is being released. Oh boy, well, then they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to burn America down because not the regular people, of course.
Speaker 2: But if it's anything like what I have been looking into,
Speaker 2: everything is connected to everything, first of all, and that
Speaker 2: includes religion, all your boys, all your girls that are
Speaker 2: your top, top people that you're like, praise praise to
Speaker 2: the man. Stop praising men, Praise to God, because the
Speaker 2: rest of them are just it's it's not good. We'll
Speaker 2: just say that. So I'm gonna do a little presentation
Speaker 2: here and show you some things. Let's go, and yes,
Speaker 2: I will send a share screen. And I was literally shocked,
Speaker 2: Like you know me, I usually come across things on accident,
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened with this one. I was
Speaker 2: researching something else and then boom, next thing, I know,
Speaker 2: I'm in a weird space. So all right, tell me
Speaker 2: when you can see cabins in the woods. Okay, let's go,
Speaker 2: you can see it. All right, We're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: some weird stuff today because before anything happened to JFK
Speaker 2: in this little cabin. Not really, but I couldn't find
Speaker 2: the real one. But this is like an example. In
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty two, there was a seance organized here, okay,
Speaker 2: in this fake here, not exactly, and it was actually
Speaker 2: organized by andre Ha Puharovich. Do you know who he is?
Speaker 2: If you don't, nobody, he doesn't sound American, right, And
Speaker 2: and this gets weird. And when I say weird, I
Speaker 2: mean so weird. So these people that I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell you, these participants that were there, okay, are Arthur
Speaker 2: Young of Hell Bell Helicopter. That's important. Put that in
Speaker 2: your back pocket. Ruth Forbes pain Young. Now she isn't
Speaker 2: Ruth Young, So remember the Forbes part. Notice these names too, Forbes,
Speaker 2: right name, So we Gotbes, Ruth Forbes, Ruth is Arthur
Speaker 2: Young of Bell Helicopter. And then we also have Henry
Speaker 2: and Georgia Jackson, Alice Bouvier born Alice Astor. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: heard me, Marcella DuPont, Yes, of the DuPonts, Carl Yes,
Speaker 2: Sorr ye yes, so.
Speaker 1: Responsible for so many forever poisons that are in every
Speaker 1: single one of us.
Speaker 2: Oh, and they're a huge name. Like when you're looking
Speaker 2: at these names, and then Pooharovich himself was there. So
Speaker 2: when you see these names, like, you're like, what we've
Speaker 2: got like Bouvier, DuPont, We've got Forbes, We've got all
Speaker 2: these people that are super important, right, and so let's
Speaker 2: go to one of these people and talk about him,
Speaker 2: like Andre Poujarovich. This is his book he wrote later,
Speaker 2: but Originally when he started all of this stuff, he
Speaker 2: served as a captain at Edgewood Arsenal working on hallucinogenic drugs.
Speaker 2: He was huge into the hallucinogenic movement and that whole
Speaker 2: operation with like getting hallucinogenics out to the public. He
Speaker 2: was specifically trying.
Speaker 1: To Laurel, was involved in the Laurel Canyon. Yep, Okay,
Speaker 1: he was specifically those people. Just for those people just listening,
Speaker 1: you're doing yourself as a disservice. So go ahead and
Speaker 1: go over to Rockfin right now and check the shit out.
Speaker 1: Because on the cover here there is there's a pyramid,
Speaker 1: and in the pyramid it's almost like a key hole
Speaker 1: in the shape of phallis or a mushroom.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he's specifically looking to stimulate psychic abilities and people. Okay,
Speaker 2: so he is. He's all over the CIA, he's worked
Speaker 2: for them in the nineteen fifties. And if you remember
Speaker 2: somebody name Uri Geller, do you remember this guy that
Speaker 2: can bendspoons with his mind? Oh? Yeah, yeah, there is
Speaker 2: no spoons, okay, So Uri Geller is yeah, no, that's him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And he would say that, and this guy is the
Speaker 2: one that found Uri Geller. So he also is the
Speaker 2: real life protege I guess for stranger things. He worked
Speaker 2: with kids and doing like mind experiments for kids. He
Speaker 2: called them like like his kids, and it was like
Speaker 2: this whole weird Yeah he was. It was weird. And
Speaker 2: he was behind the LSD movement, like you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 2: getting it out to people, trying to get it out.
Speaker 1: Like like was it a DNA type of a thing,
Speaker 1: like a John of God type of feel too.
Speaker 2: It was like space kids just like think stranger things
Speaker 2: and like mental abilities, all these mental abilities and kids,
Speaker 2: and he was trying to see like what exactly they
Speaker 2: could do two kids to a get them to be
Speaker 2: more psychic, I guess is a good way to say it,
Speaker 2: and how to use this psychic knowledge for mass psychosis
Speaker 2: experimentation on you know, like a warfare type situation. So
Speaker 2: I mean he's not When was he relevant? So this
Speaker 2: is in the nineteen fifties is when he worked for
Speaker 2: the CIA, and then he started with all of his brothers.
Speaker 1: This was right before the San Francisco projects that were created,
Speaker 1: So this is right before all that. So this is
Speaker 1: the precursor to what we saw with MK Ultra.
Speaker 2: Yes and he's also involved in that, and so Harvich
Speaker 2: is super interesting, like he I need to do a
Speaker 2: deeper dive on just him himself. But like as it
Speaker 2: pertains to this, I was so often left filled. I
Speaker 2: was like I got to come back. But he is
Speaker 2: definitely even Uri Geller quit working for him because he's like,
Speaker 2: I just don't like his vibe, Like I think he's
Speaker 2: trying to kill everyone. Basically he didn't say that, but
Speaker 2: he was like, I don't trust this guy. So and
Speaker 2: I get it because from reading the things he was
Speaker 2: putting out there, I wouldn't trust him either. But he's
Speaker 2: the one that organized this seance. This is one of
Speaker 2: his like parapsychology testing esp stuff for young people. This
Speaker 2: was his deal here. This is an actual photo from
Speaker 2: his experiments, and yes, do you remember that was funny?
Speaker 2: You just show the picture.
Speaker 1: It was like obviously a student, right, like maybe a
Speaker 1: high school student. Yeah, definitely a high school student. May
Speaker 1: or could be a college student, right, But do you
Speaker 1: remember in elementary school we would go and they would
Speaker 1: have the hearing tests. That was well they did, but
Speaker 1: buy the CIA because they were looking for people that
Speaker 1: could hear frequencies that most people can't.
Speaker 2: Well, they also had the gifted program and I was
Speaker 2: in that and I did a test as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's weird. It's very weird, I think that they were.
Speaker 2: And people always say, well.
Speaker 1: Gifted program, we can't just skip over that, like you
Speaker 1: just say that.
Speaker 2: No, no, And I was actually in it for a
Speaker 2: long time because I needed a psychiatrist to come to
Speaker 2: the school and talk to me twice or three times
Speaker 2: sometimes a week, constantly for like two years until my
Speaker 2: parents yanked me out of public school because.
Speaker 1: It was just the school was providing a handler that
Speaker 1: they aka called a fucking.
Speaker 2: A psychologist. Well, and my mom was getting very concerned because,
Speaker 2: i mean, number one, there was some things in the home.
Speaker 2: I'm sure she didn't want out, but I was like
Speaker 2: the perfect for like not good things because I had
Speaker 2: had trauma in the home and trauma you know in general,
Speaker 2: and I have a high IQ, so that's not good
Speaker 2: when you're talking about these things. They tried to take
Speaker 2: me to a summer camp. I've lost my memory from
Speaker 2: the years that I mean, like from fourth grade to
Speaker 2: sixth grade. There's not much there. And I've had some
Speaker 2: really traumatic things and I've gone in and talked with
Speaker 2: therapists about this, and I'm like, how come I can't
Speaker 2: remember this stuff? But I remember horrible things like if
Speaker 2: it's blocking out Traumah, why do I remember this trauma
Speaker 2: but not this time in my life that I'm with
Speaker 2: this psychiatrist. So I'm pretty sure they were doing some
Speaker 2: weird like hypnotism. Probably I don't know. Yeah, thank God,
Speaker 2: I yeah, yeah, so, yes, I drank the weird bubblegum drink,
Speaker 2: all kinds of weird stuff that I vaguely remember certain things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I yeah. My mom said they wanted to take
Speaker 2: me to the summer camp and she got pretty spookeed
Speaker 2: and I ended up going to Catholic school as a
Speaker 2: Mormon in the middle of Idaho.
Speaker 1: Hey, there was this girl that I went to school
Speaker 1: with and she was in the gifted program. I believe
Speaker 1: her name was Tiffany, but I remember her talking about
Speaker 1: a bubblegum drink.
Speaker 2: What is that? They said it was fluoride, but I do.
Speaker 2: I've done a show with Begi Cast shout out beg Cast,
Speaker 2: and his was Banana I think or something, and he
Speaker 2: said the same thing. He remembers this. Yeah, and we've
Speaker 2: talked about this, and honestly, if they're looking for bloodlines,
Speaker 2: I've recently found out some really weird stuff which I'm
Speaker 2: probably gonna do some shows on. But my lineage goes
Speaker 2: to the House of Bourbon, and my lineage goes to
Speaker 2: Marie Antoinette and so and a whole bunch of people
Speaker 2: the Orleans. Yeah, it's just not for Smear the Queer.
Speaker 1: Because I will tell you this right now. I remember
Speaker 1: exactly when this fucking happened at my school. I was
Speaker 1: in fifth grade and they pulled me right before recess
Speaker 1: and we were going to play Smear the Queer and
Speaker 1: I was really fucking good at that game, and I
Speaker 1: was pissed off that I was missing my recess. So
Speaker 1: I just fucking like went like this and was like,
Speaker 1: get me the fuck out of here. Whatever you guys need,
Speaker 1: just get me out of here. And I was done
Speaker 1: with their stupid little test as soon as I could be,
Speaker 1: so I could get out there and fucking hit people.
Speaker 2: That's funny, You probably saved yourself a lot of not
Speaker 2: knowledge because I don't remember hardly anything. So and this
Speaker 2: the same thing has happened to my cousin, who also
Speaker 2: does not have memory, and so it's a little scary.
Speaker 2: And I do think they target bloodlines and families, and
Speaker 2: if your family's in possibly in the system, like my
Speaker 2: dad was in the system at this point. He was
Speaker 2: in prison, and I do think possibly his IQ score
Speaker 2: probably came through pretty high. I know it was high.
Speaker 2: You think he was so smart? What's that?
Speaker 1: Why do you think that it? Why do you think
Speaker 1: it is that they memory suppress You.
Speaker 2: Think, I think they're probably trying to see how much
Speaker 2: they can program you, and they don't want anybody else
Speaker 2: to be able to do it. So if they're trying
Speaker 2: to start a handling.
Speaker 1: The memory suppression is actually part of the and the initiation.
Speaker 2: I guess you would say. I think I think they're
Speaker 2: trying to see how far they can get in your brain.
Speaker 2: And I also think that might be some of my
Speaker 2: issues with like any substances, I completely freak out. Well,
Speaker 2: it's possible that you know that's I probably would never
Speaker 2: do a hallucinogenic because I would be afraid to remember,
Speaker 2: and I don't know that I could handle that, Like
Speaker 2: I I've got enough that I've got on my plate,
Speaker 2: and so I've always just felt like that's not a
Speaker 2: good thing for me because of this situation, not just
Speaker 2: this situation but trauma in general, Whereas some people are like, no,
Speaker 2: I want to work through that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so at some point, yeah, possibility, I'm terrified as fuck,
Speaker 1: but I do want to do the iber gain treatment
Speaker 1: because you face your worst fears and you're able to
Speaker 1: overcome basically anything, And it's like, what better way to
Speaker 1: deal with something than head it face on? Like, right,
Speaker 1: if you're at work and you get in trouble and
Speaker 1: they're like, uh, Heidi, we need to see you up upstairs,
Speaker 1: You're like, ah, fuck, Well, you can't just go sit
Speaker 1: in your car for a while and think about it.
Speaker 2: You gotta go fucking face that shit, right, Yep, yep,
Speaker 2: that's true. And I think for some people that is
Speaker 2: really good and for others that it depends. It depends
Speaker 2: on your threshold. And when I went to Tons of therapy,
Speaker 2: he was like, do you like your life right now?
Speaker 2: Or are you depressed? Do you have problems? Do you
Speaker 2: you know? Blah blah blah, And I don't. And I'm
Speaker 2: one of the lucky Yes, Well I think so, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I talked to lots of people at work that definitely
Speaker 2: admit they're depressed often all the time.
Speaker 1: But I genuinely yes, is anybody gonna say yes that
Speaker 1: they're happy with their life? Like you could ask any
Speaker 1: ask well, let's not use eminem.
Speaker 2: He's alive. Yeah, let's uh.
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan, He probably is happy with his life,
Speaker 1: isn't he? That motherfucker is probably happy as motherfucker living.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: are happy. And that's the thing. He was like, you
Speaker 2: seem very well adjusted and happy in your life. I
Speaker 2: can't guarantee that this won't harm you, but if you
Speaker 2: feel like you need to do it, that's fine. And
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, I think I'm going to pray
Speaker 2: about this, and I just don't feel like it for
Speaker 2: me it's necessary because I've already gone through so much
Speaker 2: with facing so many things that I'm pretty much at
Speaker 2: a point where I don't think it would change it
Speaker 2: for me, because even if it did happen, even if
Speaker 2: the worst thing happened, I would be like, well, that happened,
Speaker 2: because I've already been through all of that, and I've
Speaker 2: already been through so much trauma that I'm like, you
Speaker 2: either get over it or you don't. And this is
Speaker 2: the thing you sometimes don't, but you have to live
Speaker 2: and find the joy in your life. And that's what
Speaker 2: I do. It doesn't ever get to me because I'm like,
Speaker 2: look at this beautiful family I have. Look at this
Speaker 2: beautiful Even in the worst of the situations, I'm like,
Speaker 2: look at these kids, look at this life, look at
Speaker 2: my husband. I love my job. Like very few people
Speaker 2: can see that.
Speaker 1: You're sitting behind the microphone right now talking to thousands
Speaker 1: of people about the craziest shit and they actually want
Speaker 1: to listen to it.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. And I'm a nurse and I
Speaker 2: get to help people. Yeah, and I think there's a lot,
Speaker 2: you know, with that, And I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's good. So, yeah, this was a weird situation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I canpartmentalize a lot myself, you know, And I feel
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of traumas.
Speaker 2: That I've had. I know for a fact, because like
Speaker 2: I'll remember some.
Speaker 1: Things and I'm like, oh, I'm not ready to I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to think about that, not ready, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: not ready for that, you know. So I think that
Speaker 1: compartmentalizing things until you're ready to deal with it is
Speaker 1: not an unhealthy thing, yeah.
Speaker 2: Or if you've dealt with it, like I basically dealt
Speaker 2: with it in the fact, like I was like, this
Speaker 2: probably happened to you, Like do I know that for sure?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But I know what the things that have and the
Speaker 2: things that possibly may have. And I just throw that
Speaker 2: in the basket too, because, like you said, you got
Speaker 2: to face it, so may as well face it. It
Speaker 2: doesn't have to have a face. Literally, it can just
Speaker 2: be the thing that happened against me, right, Like I
Speaker 2: assume that something bad sexually happened to me. I'm guessing
Speaker 2: probably you know, Do I remember that?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 2: Thank god? You know so? And you just deal with
Speaker 2: it a little bit at a time and then you
Speaker 2: give it a back. Yes, and yes, am I jumping
Speaker 2: ahead here?
Speaker 1: Do you think that Lee Harvey Oswald was one of
Speaker 1: these so called gifted children?
Speaker 2: He was very smart. We will be talking about Lee
Speaker 2: Harvey Oswald, but his IQ was off the charts. So
Speaker 2: and I feel bad that, you know, I used to
Speaker 2: tell this about my dad because he was super high IQ.
Speaker 2: But he was so smart, he was dumb, you know.
Speaker 2: I hate to say that. I think he had a
Speaker 2: trust issue. I think he trusted the wrong people and
Speaker 2: you're going to see this in these people today. And
Speaker 2: it was it was a shame because he was basically
Speaker 2: a lamb to the slaughter and that's sad okay. But
Speaker 2: not only was he a lamb to the slaughter. These
Speaker 2: people came together far before there was even a thought
Speaker 2: about Lee Harvey Oswald or any of the problems or
Speaker 2: a JFK any of this. These people came together in
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty two. So and then it finally took place
Speaker 2: the actual seance itself on June in June nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 2: So what happened when they did this? And we'll get
Speaker 2: back to these people. You're going to love this. They
Speaker 2: contact and I'm going to read this to you. This
Speaker 2: is where I was like, what the hell just happened?
Speaker 2: I was researching JFK. They connected with a UFO that
Speaker 2: was hovering over there cabin in the woods, and they
Speaker 2: were talking to Egyptian gods, to the nine principal gods
Speaker 2: of the need. And these gods are Adam, the sun god,
Speaker 2: like at U m Shee the god of air, tef
Speaker 2: Nut goddess. Then there's CL's god of Earth, nut, goddess
Speaker 2: of the sky, Osiris, it's pronounced Osyrus, member of the
Speaker 2: you need isis member of the on needs set, member
Speaker 2: of the need, and these member the need. So all
Speaker 2: of these they came together and hovered over this cabin
Speaker 2: and they said, there are nine of you, and there
Speaker 2: are nine of us, and we're going to talk to
Speaker 2: you today. And they did, and they connected on some
Speaker 2: level with these entities. And they'd never say exactly what
Speaker 2: they spoke about, Okay, they just say they connected about
Speaker 2: the future. Well, now we're going to rewind it backwards
Speaker 2: because now we know that this was weird. Number one
Speaker 2: Kuharavich is very interested in psychic ability and can nections
Speaker 2: and all of that. He's there, he's working for the CIA.
Speaker 2: I'm getting Joseph Smith vibes all over this look like
Speaker 2: I'm like, did he have a stone? Did he have
Speaker 2: a stone and a hat? I want to know? But
Speaker 2: you know he obviously did it correctly, as did Crowley,
Speaker 2: as did a few other people. Right, we know this
Speaker 2: like with d John Dean. So now we need to
Speaker 2: look at the players once again. Like I told you
Speaker 2: about so this Ruth Forbes Payne Young, she has quite
Speaker 2: the name. She is the mother of somebody named Michael Payne,
Speaker 2: and he works for Belle Helicopter. But not only did
Speaker 2: he work for Bell Helicopter, he had the utmost security
Speaker 2: clearance level because his stepfather, Arthur Young invented the Bell helicopter.
Speaker 2: Ka invented it. So when we start talking about inventions
Speaker 2: of this type, you always have to put in the
Speaker 2: back of your mind like where did they get that
Speaker 2: information from? Right? Like for me anyway. So this is
Speaker 2: Michael Payne who worked at Bell Helicopter and he's These
Speaker 2: are all going to be very important people soon because
Speaker 2: this woman you may have heard of her, and she
Speaker 2: is also Ruth Paine. So remember Ruth Forbes Pain is
Speaker 2: his mother. He marries a lady with the same exact
Speaker 2: Ruth Paine, and gives her the last name Young, So
Speaker 2: Ruth Paine Young and Ruth Forbes Pain Young. So this
Speaker 2: is why it gets confusing, and you have to remember
Speaker 2: this lady, but you're going to remember her very quickly
Speaker 2: in a moment. Remember do you remember this picture at
Speaker 2: all or do you remember Marina's lady? She was staying
Speaker 2: with Marina Oswald stayed with Ruth Payne, the wife not
Speaker 2: the mother, and these people acted like they were just
Speaker 2: normal people. Okay, so these people are in the CIA,
Speaker 2: I can't prove it. But also remember you remember how
Speaker 2: I told you about the Forbes part. Yes, okay, so
Speaker 2: how much money do you think the Forbes have?
Speaker 1: Well, we're assuming, like I mean, from a kid, it's
Speaker 1: like this week on Forbes, the Lifestyles of the Rich
Speaker 1: and Famous, you know, like you would assume that they're
Speaker 1: wealthy as.
Speaker 2: Fuck, right, and they are because he invents a helicopter.
Speaker 2: Plus he has this magnificent you know, family, and he
Speaker 2: has all this money. But this is how they're living
Speaker 2: like normal middle class America and they're just normal people.
Speaker 2: And she's a Quaker, and it just looks so ridiculous. Right,
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I wanted to know her because I
Speaker 2: wanted to learn Russian. Oh okay, that's weird. I don't
Speaker 2: think so. So this is going to get interesting here soon.
Speaker 2: Then this lady that was there, Okay, this just happens
Speaker 2: to be another one of the participants. And she is
Speaker 2: not only Bruce's friend. Okay, she just happens to be
Speaker 2: Alan Doles. This is permanent girlfriend. Oh weird, yeah right, Okay,
Speaker 2: so she's there. Alan Doles's mistress period she is at
Speaker 2: this as well. So now we've got like first version
Speaker 2: of a dyke pretty much, I mean, you know. And
Speaker 2: then this is Arthur Young, the inventor of the helicopter.
Speaker 2: So we've got all these big players. Alan Dolas just
Speaker 2: because he wasn't there but his girlfriend was. And so
Speaker 2: when we talk about all these people, it makes you wonder, like,
Speaker 2: what the hell is happening? Right like that, this just
Speaker 2: seems a little too connected because eventually they're going to
Speaker 2: hook up Lee Harvey Oswald in this whole mess and
Speaker 2: it gets strange. And so Lee Harvey Oswald ends up
Speaker 2: meeting somebody called George de Moornshield through these people. Do
Speaker 2: you know who he is? I don't, okay, So he's extremely.
Speaker 1: I'm curious where you're going to take this because in
Speaker 1: the back of my mind, I want you to know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that there was multiple Lee Harvey Oswald's right,
Speaker 1: and that he was curated for a patsy. So that's
Speaker 1: in the back of my head while you're talking about this.
Speaker 2: Right, but this is he definitely was and part of
Speaker 2: this will be through demorn Shield. Oh and I forgot
Speaker 2: to mention Dols's girlfriend was named Mary Bancroft. I forgot
Speaker 2: to tell you guys that, and it was her best friend,
Speaker 2: the mom's best friend. So George de Moornshield is really
Speaker 2: important when it comes to Lee Harvey Oswald. He was
Speaker 2: a Russian. He came here in nineteen thirty eight because
Speaker 2: he was basically brought here with war circumstances, and he's
Speaker 2: here from a young age. He becomes a petroleum geologist.
Speaker 2: Isn't that fun? Oh? So was he friends with the Rockefellers. Well,
Speaker 2: he's an anti communism political refugee, yet he's friends with
Speaker 2: a communist right. He's going to be friends with Lee
Speaker 2: Harvey Oswald and he ran this white affluent Russian group
Speaker 2: who the wife pain Ruth Pain. It gets confusing because
Speaker 2: there's the mom and the wife. The wife sets them
Speaker 2: all up together to like have this brunch. Well, okay,
Speaker 2: we're talking about Lee Harvey Oswald, who has a shit
Speaker 2: job and he's a typical normal guy and whatever. They're normal,
Speaker 2: not high class people, and we're talking about this guy,
Speaker 2: I mean his last name alone Morenshield Like it's it's fancy.
Speaker 2: These are fancy people, but they're going to hook them
Speaker 2: up because they both speak Russian. I guess I don't know,
Speaker 2: and so it makes yeah, it makes no sense. And
Speaker 2: so before he came here, just so you guys know,
Speaker 2: he is a KGB first Chief, and not only is
Speaker 2: he a KGB first Chief, but he as a political refugee,
Speaker 2: came here and is very close to Papa Bush. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm talking their buddies. And actually George Bush had to
Speaker 2: come clean and say he knew him. And I'll show
Speaker 2: you the document, because you know me, I like to
Speaker 2: prove my points.
Speaker 1: But he did go to Yale by any chance.
Speaker 2: So his uncle he did know him through Yelle. He
Speaker 2: knew Bush stated that he knew that the roommate, his roommate,
Speaker 2: that was his uncle. The moorn Shield is his roommate's uncle.
Speaker 2: And this is the paper he wants to remember.
Speaker 1: He was most likely a member of the Skull and Bones.
Speaker 1: Then and we got the we got the yeah it's
Speaker 1: it's it's stamped.
Speaker 2: Probably most likely, Yeah, it's stamped. Yes, this is real.
Speaker 2: I try to really research as best as I can
Speaker 2: so that people can understand that when I bring things
Speaker 2: to the table, they are highly researched. So because I
Speaker 2: know this already sounds crazy I've ever seen on this show. Actually, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: very We're going to leave it up for a minute.
Speaker 2: And so anyways, George Bush, this causes a huge problem
Speaker 2: for him because Demorn Shield gets in some hot water
Speaker 2: later and I'll explain that soon, but he knows Bush well,
Speaker 2: and he's bothering Bush because these people will just tell
Speaker 2: you know, Lee, Harvey Oswald, he kind of I think
Speaker 2: he feels bad a little bit when he once he
Speaker 2: gets arrested and he's like, well, he wasn't that bad,
Speaker 2: and it almost seemed like he was kind of trying
Speaker 2: to protect him, I guess in some way, and I
Speaker 2: think it was his content. Honestly, well, George de Morinshield's
Speaker 2: trying to protect at this point a deadly Harvey Olswald,
Speaker 2: and I think he felt bad about it, and he
Speaker 2: was trying to basically not say yeah, he was the
Speaker 2: worst ever and yeah he hated everybody, and you know,
Speaker 2: he's definitely the killer. And people started to notice, like
Speaker 2: are you standing up for him? What's happening? So he
Speaker 2: gets in some hot water and basically all the three
Speaker 2: letter agencies are chasing him down and on top of it.
Speaker 2: At this point, they're trying to get him to come
Speaker 2: in to testify on his own before they subpoena him
Speaker 2: and for the congressional hearings on JFK. So he writes
Speaker 2: a handwritten letter to Papa Bush and it says, you
Speaker 2: will excuse this handwritten letter. This is a matter of
Speaker 2: presidential This is noted. I'm going to find a copy
Speaker 2: of it. But this is like actually filed, because every
Speaker 2: communication to the president has to be like noted unless
Speaker 2: it's like secret. But this wasn't secret. He just like
Speaker 2: delivered it regular and it said I am sorry to
Speaker 2: bring this to you, but maybe you can bring a
Speaker 2: solution to this hopeless situation I find myself in. Okay,
Speaker 2: So Papa Bush doesn't do anything about this, And so.
Speaker 1: What was Papa Bush's what was his role when JFK
Speaker 1: was assassinated, because that's important and a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't realize that he actually.
Speaker 2: Was doesn't remember. He doesn't remember where he was that day.
Speaker 2: Everybody in the whole wide world that was alive on
Speaker 2: that day remembers exactly where they were, but he doesn't
Speaker 2: remember where he was that day. What was there? There
Speaker 2: was actually a doctor oh, he was in the CIA. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he was in the CIA.
Speaker 1: See where he was He was in the Pentagon actually right,
Speaker 1: he was in the building of the Pentagon.
Speaker 2: Well, their speculation and that he was in Texas. So
Speaker 2: I don't know. But the next picture I'm going to
Speaker 2: show you is what happened to poor George de Mornshield.
Speaker 2: And if you have a queasy stomach, just this is
Speaker 2: like your warning, don't don't look at those if you
Speaker 2: don't like bloody stuff. So this is what they found.
Speaker 2: Right as he got his subpoena delivered, so killed himself apparently,
Speaker 2: so they say he shot he shot himself so and
Speaker 2: it was directly yeah, directly after apparently. Yep, you bet you.
Speaker 2: I took it down because it's you know, actually, can
Speaker 2: you make it a little actually sure, let's see one
Speaker 2: second there.
Speaker 1: You go, Okay, Well, me being me, I'm not sold
Speaker 1: that this is legit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, well, and I mean, you know, THEA
Speaker 2: is involved. He gets a subpoena and boom dice right
Speaker 2: like okay, And so he was super important and Bush
Speaker 2: was very tied to this whole thing. And you have
Speaker 2: to understand it makes sense that they knew each other
Speaker 2: he's a what a petroleum geologist? What was Daddy Bush?
Speaker 2: He was very into oil. He was in was Zapota oil,
Speaker 2: which goes back to my Howard Hughes stuff and the
Speaker 2: Bay of Pigs. So I'm sure they didn't want him
Speaker 2: chatting about that. Okay, that was a messy situation. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure that was part of the reason why they
Speaker 2: didn't let him be chitty chatty with everybody. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure he felt like, honestly, what are you going to
Speaker 2: say at that point?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, right, and let me let me
Speaker 1: backtrack for a second. I just have to say that,
Speaker 1: like I always played Devil's Advocate, and when I looked
Speaker 1: at that picture, I'm like, that could easily fucking be staged.
Speaker 2: But oh no, it came from the FBI files. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and could still easily. I mean yeah, sure in ci
Speaker 2: file cio.
Speaker 1: You know, it was like, all right, lay down, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: we move to the left a little bit right right
Speaker 1: right over the blood. Okay, stay stay, stay all right,
Speaker 1: we yet it. Okay, that's just how my mind works.
Speaker 1: That's and it always does. However, everything that you're saying
Speaker 1: would give clear reason for them to not want him
Speaker 1: alive anymore.
Speaker 2: And everybody starts dying. Everybody that's involved in this whole
Speaker 2: situation starts dying. Not the nine, the nine don't, but
Speaker 2: all the key players that were in the in the
Speaker 2: no start dying very randomly, very quickly. And so also,
Speaker 2: you know, when we look at things, remember Michael Pain
Speaker 2: and I'll put his picture back up. This is the
Speaker 2: one Pain's son and the other pains husband. Okay, he
Speaker 2: also works for Bell Helicopter like his stepdad who invented it.
Speaker 2: But he has that top security clearance. And here's something
Speaker 2: else that happened right as the assassination happened. This is
Speaker 2: actually in CIA docs. It is recorded because they bugged everything.
Speaker 2: It said. We both know who is responsible for this,
Speaker 2: and it isn't Lee Harvey Oswald. So there was that.
Speaker 2: He also has ties to the United Fruit Company and
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know about that. And that's
Speaker 2: a whole show in itself. Bananas, yes, okay, you guys
Speaker 2: literally Banana Republic bananas, ties to the Bay of Pigs.
Speaker 2: But my favorite part is who his boss is at
Speaker 2: Bell Helicopter. Wait till you hear this. His boss is
Speaker 2: dorn Berger what the Nazi? The Nazi?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, okay, but let's look at this guy right
Speaker 1: here that you're showing. Also, like, look at his head,
Speaker 1: the size of his head compared to body.
Speaker 2: Well I've known people like that, but yeah.
Speaker 1: So people that aren't human like this guy is obviously
Speaker 1: of Cain descent.
Speaker 2: He's enough one probably. Yeah. And then on top of it,
Speaker 2: do you know that it was Ruth Payne, the wife
Speaker 2: of this man, that helped get Lee Harvey Oswald his
Speaker 2: job at the Dallas school Book depositor depository. And do
Speaker 2: you know who happens to own the Dallas school book Depository. No,
Speaker 2: this is a funny one. You remember Admiral Bird No, No,
Speaker 2: who's that right? Well, his cousin owned that book depository. Okay,
Speaker 2: what a fucking kinky dink? Are you kidding? Right, It's
Speaker 2: just like this guy can't get a break, and he's
Speaker 2: just rounded by all these wild people, and you know.
Speaker 1: Like, God damn it, he don't like this. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean to say the GD out loud. I apologize.
Speaker 1: I apologize. I'm not apologizing to anybody listening. I'm apologizing
Speaker 1: to the one that it matters to. I apologize for
Speaker 1: saying that you're good.
Speaker 2: It is wild.
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like that we in the
Speaker 1: flat earth community like to use General Admiral Bird as
Speaker 1: some sort of credibility when this guy has so many
Speaker 1: conspiracies surrounding him and his family.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what happened to his son, right, I
Speaker 2: wasn't even going to talk about this right now, but
Speaker 2: it came up. So he was finally going to talk,
Speaker 2: and his dad told him, don't ever fly. Okay, he's
Speaker 2: an he's a flight admiral. And his son actually went
Speaker 2: with him on the mission, the last mission to Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, Arctica and so yes, and so he was
Speaker 2: there too because he was grown by then. And so
Speaker 2: his dad had told him, you know, like I basically
Speaker 2: have hidden all these things, and he did. Admiral Bird
Speaker 2: like hid basically little calling cards everywhere all over the place,
Speaker 2: Like people were still finding things that he left, like
Speaker 2: little cachets all over the place, like twenty thirty fifty
Speaker 2: years after he died, because he made sure that he
Speaker 2: was like, no, I'm not going to hide all my
Speaker 2: dirt in one place, which it was really smart. But
Speaker 2: you have an asset, which is your kid, and they
Speaker 2: came for his kid. He was going to go meet
Speaker 2: with people to do like a documentary series on it.
Speaker 2: He was found weeks later in a different pair of
Speaker 2: clothes and he was starved to death, like starved and everything.
Speaker 2: And I guess he committed suicide, all emaciated in a
Speaker 2: friggin warehouse, in a whole new set of clothes that
Speaker 2: were like shabby and crappy. You know, so they they
Speaker 2: starved him to death.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably shot him. Committed suicide, yes, And so
Speaker 1: who his dad was in the information that his dad
Speaker 1: had and you know, I have it on good terms
Speaker 1: that his dad was also a member of the OTO.
Speaker 2: Oh well, it wouldn't surprise me, I mean if you know,
Speaker 2: knowing what they do. And during this whole time, so
Speaker 2: that's the nine and Andrea Puharovitch and during this time
Speaker 2: for the CIA, they're also doing something that's kind of funny,
Speaker 2: and literally I mean funny. They started a church, a
Speaker 2: church with no people, and they started this church. Basically
Speaker 2: they never came clean as to why they started this church.
Speaker 2: But this is all of them as priests with no parishioners,
Speaker 2: and it was very strange, to say the least. We'll
Speaker 2: say that and.
Speaker 1: For money purposes, right, because for sure, as a church
Speaker 1: you have monetary gains that most people don't.
Speaker 2: But no one knew about that. And so actually they're like,
Speaker 2: it's weird because I think it was probably their undercover
Speaker 2: shell for this actual people that knew the most about
Speaker 2: the JFK stuff. Okay, And this is one, so Walter
Speaker 2: Myron Profeta, and then this is the other one, Jack
Speaker 2: S Martin, and then this Christopher Maria Stanley, and he
Speaker 2: was known as Carl Stanley to the FBI, close associate
Speaker 2: to Profeta, Ferry and Martin. And they were summoned like
Speaker 2: right after everything happens with JFK, and they were all
Speaker 2: told to come to the church meeting. And he's the
Speaker 2: only one that showed up. He died two weeks later.
Speaker 2: Then another one drops dead like right after that. They
Speaker 2: all just start dropping dead really mysterious circumstances. So basically,
Speaker 2: I mean they were after them, really, And this is
Speaker 2: a picture in case people didn't believe me about dorn
Speaker 2: Berger my compaign stall.
Speaker 1: So they were all summoned to go before some sort
Speaker 1: of a hearing or a court, I'm assuming, and.
Speaker 2: It's just a it was a meeting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a meeting, and before any sort of cordial
Speaker 1: thing could take place, they died of the.
Speaker 2: Flu right, No, they just mysteriously died, like literally, it
Speaker 2: was like crazy. And so this all started happening, and
Speaker 2: like I said, I.
Speaker 1: Was fucking around with their heart attack gun.
Speaker 2: Yes, and not only that, but one guy grabbed his car.
Speaker 2: I can't remember which one it was, but he went
Speaker 2: to go get in his car and there was like
Speaker 2: goo on his fingers that could definitely be nitro jell,
Speaker 2: which is an effective way to get nitroglycerin into somebody,
Speaker 2: and he dies, Like all of them just start dropping dead.
Speaker 2: Anybody that knew anything about it, They just start and
Speaker 2: they're even though they're the people they're they're they're made guys,
Speaker 2: you know, And so it didn't matter. Basically they started
Speaker 2: taking them out and is a loose end. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter how loose end yep, exactly, and especially when you're
Speaker 2: close with guy Banister, like come on, and so you
Speaker 2: have to know that like Jack Martin, who was a
Speaker 2: bishop in that weird church, he was one of the
Speaker 2: first agents in the nineteen forty nine UFO First UFO Crush.
Speaker 2: So all these guys Their bottom line is they all
Speaker 2: kind of know a little bit about UFOs or have
Speaker 2: been involved in UFO type operations. And then I'm telling
Speaker 2: you about now I'm bringing this together. You're probably like,
Speaker 2: why is she telling me about this? Nine? And then
Speaker 2: this because it kind of coincides. Their bottom line is
Speaker 2: all these people have somehow either channeled things or know
Speaker 2: about things or secret you know, X clearance weird stuff, right,
Speaker 2: and so you know, I think they're trying to clean
Speaker 2: that up. Now I'm going to skip over this one. Now.
Speaker 2: At the same time, you have to understand what most
Speaker 2: likely got JFK killed. And I'm going to show it
Speaker 2: to you right here. Do you know who is with
Speaker 2: JFK here? By chance? No, who is it? So it's
Speaker 2: Vernon b von Braun, Verner von Bonn and JFK. And
Speaker 2: this is when they decided that they're going right, But
Speaker 2: he wanted to do it with Russia. Now you have
Speaker 2: to understand, actually more Russians died in World War Two.
Speaker 2: They are the reason why there was an end to
Speaker 2: World War Two. Okay, so Germans credit Russians, yes, at
Speaker 2: that time, but us the Russians.
Speaker 1: Like basically think about it as a football game. You
Speaker 1: have the running back that fucking took all the hits,
Speaker 1: all the brunts, got the ball all the way down
Speaker 1: the field, and then they fucking threw a touchdown pass,
Speaker 1: and the fucking receiver is the one that got all
Speaker 1: the credit for it.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right. And so when we're talking about Russians
Speaker 2: and Germans at this point, okay, and we've got JFK
Speaker 2: here who already kind of in other people's eyes, fouled
Speaker 2: the Bay of Pigs. Okay, so they're looking at this like,
Speaker 2: what is he doing. You're going to sell out our
Speaker 2: biggest secret, the biggest secret we have the X file,
Speaker 2: right the Aliens stuff to the Russians. And his whole
Speaker 2: reasoning was was, what if there's a nuclear episode because
Speaker 2: we haven't shared what we know that sometimes there are
Speaker 2: UFOs flying over and it's not us, it's not you,
Speaker 2: it's something else, and we don't I mean, obviously we
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. That's why it's a UFO.
Speaker 2: But he wanted to come clean and work together, so
Speaker 2: neither one of them blew each other up, basically, and
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: From a place that has nothing to do with the
Speaker 1: Antarctic peace treaty.
Speaker 2: No, not right here, but I mean it all like
Speaker 2: how I told you before, it all goes into everything,
Speaker 2: including the Mormons.
Speaker 1: So I mean, because you and I were on the
Speaker 1: same page about what UFOs and aliens and all that
Speaker 1: shit really is, right, you don't You're not a person
Speaker 1: that thinks it comes from fucking outer space, right.
Speaker 2: I think they're demons, and I think it's in intra
Speaker 2: like another realm, like interdimensional means. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm on the page where it's interdimensional means.
Speaker 1: But I also believe that is extra terrestrials, meaning from
Speaker 1: the extra land that Admiral Burr was talking about.
Speaker 2: Could be that too, for sure. Admiral Bird's story playing
Speaker 2: into it. And I mean, like some of them, probably
Speaker 2: the nepheline, like we're getting into Great White Brotherhood and
Speaker 2: the real society all that stuff. Like when you go
Speaker 2: down that rabbit hole, there's a lot there. What everything is,
Speaker 2: I don't exactly know, but I know like biblically you
Speaker 2: can connect even a lot of it, which is weird,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, shouldn't really be that way. So
Speaker 2: when we're talking about all of this stuff, and we're
Speaker 2: talking about you know, all of these people at play.
Speaker 2: It makes a difference. He died two weeks after this
Speaker 2: photo was taken. So not only did the CIA already
Speaker 2: have an for him, right because he said he was
Speaker 2: going to shatter it into a million pieces. Do you
Speaker 2: know why he said that.
Speaker 1: Well, because it was a stranglehold over what the United
Speaker 1: States was trying to become.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: I mean, do we really want to go into my
Speaker 1: ranting about how Judaisium should be fucking eradicated and we
Speaker 1: well to knew what Hitler started.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I think that he not only was
Speaker 2: after the CIA because of the extraterrestrial stuff and the
Speaker 2: X files and all that. He knew that stuff because
Speaker 2: he was in the Navy, in the in like top
Speaker 2: clearance of the Navy before he got in as president,
Speaker 2: or he wouldn't have known that because the CIA took
Speaker 2: that over and he threatened the CIA and told them,
Speaker 2: if you don't let me have that file and let
Speaker 2: me know what's really going on, I'm going to take
Speaker 2: it back and I'm going to be over it, which
Speaker 2: is exactly what Donald Trump did. And he made SpaceX
Speaker 2: instead of having it go through what government, right, it's private.
Speaker 2: So he's got it over here under a whole privatized thing,
Speaker 2: but the president isn't over that. And so they were like,
Speaker 2: here's the finger, I'm not giving you the file. You
Speaker 2: don't own us. And he's like, if I don't own you,
Speaker 2: then here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to
Speaker 2: just take it back and give it to the Army
Speaker 2: or the Navy or whoever, and then I'm going to
Speaker 2: own that file. And they were like bet And then
Speaker 2: he fired Alan Dolas. That didn't work out for him.
Speaker 2: So that was a lot of things. And not only that,
Speaker 2: but RFK was never going to let that go. The dad,
Speaker 2: not the current, and he got himself killed as well
Speaker 2: because of this whole thing. So I'm talking about a
Speaker 2: secret space program. I'm not talking about NASA. I'm talking
Speaker 2: about a secret space program like inside of NASA, like
Speaker 2: basically top clearance secret, all the UFO we're stuff, which
Speaker 2: I have never been that into aliens or anything. I
Speaker 2: was always just like, yeah, probably, you know whatever. But
Speaker 2: this this whole top security clearance like secret space program,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. This goes to Tesla and it goes
Speaker 2: to Van over Bush, which not related to the other bushes.
Speaker 2: But it gets very interesting and it would take me
Speaker 2: like three shows to tell you guys all about it.
Speaker 2: Super look it up. The Dark Journalist does an awesome
Speaker 2: job on a lot of this. He does like two
Speaker 2: to four breakdown.
Speaker 1: You got to touch on it a little bit because
Speaker 1: I've let over it. Okay, I've never given credit because
Speaker 1: anything that has I'm like, oh, yeah, all these fucking
Speaker 1: confederate people from these different planets that don't fucking exist.
Speaker 2: Have this confederation and we have no no, not that not.
Speaker 2: We do have a secret space program, but it is
Speaker 2: the top think of it as like and well, we
Speaker 2: don't know what they're but I'm talking about the things
Speaker 2: that they are looking at. They're not going to tell
Speaker 2: us Okay, we flew up into you know, they're going
Speaker 2: to tell us, Yeah they went to Mars or whatever
Speaker 2: they did. But we know that there has been accidents
Speaker 2: and recovered items and recovered things that are unexplainable, and
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about. We're basically talking about the
Speaker 2: X files. And so when we're talking about the X files,
Speaker 2: they have to have a board over it where they
Speaker 2: can't just give this information to anyone or even presidents
Speaker 2: because presidents come and go, so presidents are on a
Speaker 2: need to know basis. They don't get to know the
Speaker 2: top clearance stuff at all. And so most of the
Speaker 2: presidents were cool with that. But where he was already
Speaker 2: in the Navy, he had some like info on it
Speaker 2: because he was top clearance in the Navy, so he
Speaker 2: knew some like he did, he knew some shit, and
Speaker 2: so on top of it, his dad knew Howard Hughes.
Speaker 2: Pretty I'm good, and I'm sorry that Howard Hughes is
Speaker 2: a big player in all this. But I'm telling you, guys,
Speaker 2: there is like a definite committee space program over these
Speaker 2: things that they're holding all this information. And this is
Speaker 2: why Trump is going to let it go now, and
Speaker 2: it's going to kind of screw him because of Roy Cone.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you he has to let it go
Speaker 2: if they're going to do Bluebeam, because if he doesn't
Speaker 2: let it open, then it's never going to work with
Speaker 2: the alien agenda. It's not. But if he opens it up,
Speaker 2: and right now, that's the way you tied all this in.
Speaker 2: Holy shit.
Speaker 1: So you think they're going to go forward with Bluebeam?
Speaker 1: Because I was thinking, yeah, I think they might abandon
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Nope. I think they're what they're going to do because
Speaker 2: of this secrets, whole alien thing, because of this seance,
Speaker 2: because of them saying they talk to the Nine, because
Speaker 2: of all this weird stuff and all of this agenda
Speaker 2: around JFK's death. If they release those files, that's what's
Speaker 2: going to be in there. That's going to be in there, period.
Speaker 2: Because you know these people, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Trump and RFK or JFK Junior were best friends,
Speaker 1: or they probably are because there's that whole conspiracy that
Speaker 1: JFK Junior is still alive.
Speaker 2: So here's the problem with Trump. There is, okay at
Speaker 2: the top of all this crap, there is, and these
Speaker 2: guys look like they're telling more than secrets here. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm just reading the body language and I don't give
Speaker 2: a shit. You guys can say whatever you want, but
Speaker 2: this guy here, and if you haven't watched this, you
Speaker 2: have to go watch it, you guys. It's called Where's
Speaker 2: My Roy Cone spelled ceo hen and you've probably never
Speaker 2: heard of Roy Cone. And it's for a good reason
Speaker 2: because this was Trump's fixer. He was a lawyer, he
Speaker 2: was his dad was a top appellate judge. He was
Speaker 2: known as some of and I'll quote like one of
Speaker 2: the worst people I've ever met, one of the worst
Speaker 2: human beings that ever lived. He was sparred for ethical
Speaker 2: violations eventually, but he was on the board of something
Speaker 2: called perman Dex. And we're going to get to permandex
Speaker 2: and I've been promising my audience about permadex and there's
Speaker 2: going to be a whole thing on it. But permandex
Speaker 2: like permanent index of people to kill. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the people on this board is Roy Khone and I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, guys, he was a close friend and really
Speaker 2: close to the Bromfman's Okay, he's literally in bed with Hoover.
Speaker 2: He's gay and so is Hoover and they hang out
Speaker 2: in the same places. There's multiple scandals, all kinds of
Speaker 2: stuff with him. Like I'm telling you this is like
Speaker 2: what I wrote down.
Speaker 1: About this because Heidi, when I first started the show,
Speaker 1: I did a whole deep dive and this was into Pizzagate,
Speaker 1: and Pizzagate led me into Jaeger Hoover and his ties into.
Speaker 2: Uh fuck Maxwell. Jis Lane's dad, what's his name?
Speaker 1: Well, funny, yeah, range that they had going on they
Speaker 1: basically had the whole Epstein thing started. Well I don't
Speaker 1: even know if that's when it started, but it was
Speaker 1: going on during Edgar Hoover. And it's funny like Hoover
Speaker 1: and you think of a vacuum. Yeah, that guy sucks yep.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: And this guy, he was the only literally and he's
Speaker 2: the only reason why Trump is who he is today.
Speaker 2: So this is a picture of him when he's very young.
Speaker 2: Whenever he had a problem, he just called Roy and
Speaker 2: Roy fixed it. Roy was in knee deep with the mob,
Speaker 2: probably way more than knee deep, but he This is
Speaker 2: them dressed up together at Studio fifty four. You tell
Speaker 2: me what the hell's happening here? Wait, who's then? That
Speaker 2: is Trump and Roy Cone. That's Trump rest like a
Speaker 2: fucking renaissance guy. Mm hmm at Studio fifty four. You
Speaker 2: can find this on Google. It's not hard. That's Trump,
Speaker 2: that's studio. Look at me. He looks just like Baron.
Speaker 1: You guys have to you guys have to go to
Speaker 1: Rock Finn and look at this video.
Speaker 2: Look at the body language. Look at the body language here.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: That that's sound saying I can't say no Diddy, right, there.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, this is a picture of him as well.
Speaker 2: And at the end of his life Jewish, and at
Speaker 2: the end of his life, Trump completely abandoned him. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't know, but I think
Speaker 2: he probably maybe is. No, I think he was. He was,
Speaker 2: he was, he was, Yeah, he was because they were
Speaker 2: in with banking and his mom said that the people
Speaker 2: didn't bank with them because they were Jewish, So you're right.
Speaker 2: And on top of that, he was pulled away from
Speaker 2: Trump like Trump dropped him like a hot potato. Because
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know this, but he's
Speaker 2: a germaphobe. Do you know that about Trump? He's like
Speaker 2: a weirdo germophobe. Well, he got aids this guy and
Speaker 2: so he dumps him, doesn't have nothing to do with him.
Speaker 2: And in fact, his parting gift to him was a
Speaker 2: pair of really fancy gold cuff links. Trump's this big
Speaker 2: time money guy. They're fake. The boyfriend tried to hawk
Speaker 2: them later and they're fake and so shit, Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: you think was a You think maybe Trump got had
Speaker 2: though I don't. I don't cannot.
Speaker 1: Oh, dude, Trump wants to buy these like fucking gets.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing I don't know about it because
Speaker 2: let me tell you, guys. With Trump, you guys, he's
Speaker 2: like obsessed with the World's Fairs for twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: that's happening again.
Speaker 8: He had a big tell another world, Oh yes we are.
Speaker 8: Oh that's been released with the dates and he technology
Speaker 8: with the dates.
Speaker 2: They haven't said. They said it's gonna be the celebration
Speaker 2: for the birthday of America and all this stuff. And
Speaker 2: then we've got Elon Musk, who's crazy. Mom. I don't
Speaker 2: care what anybody says. Look at his mom if you
Speaker 2: want to know where he hails from. Crazy people. But
Speaker 2: there's also information on his background that's very whoa. But
Speaker 2: I will tell you with Trump, he started a gambling
Speaker 2: hotel back in the day and he named it Atlantis.
Speaker 2: Don't you find that super interesting, especially if you.
Speaker 1: Know there's Atlantis twenty minutes away from me in Reno.
Speaker 2: But like knowing what we know, just like the Mormons
Speaker 2: have a hotel called Kona Blue. Okay. Interesting? So yeah,
Speaker 2: and all of this, you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: We can't prove it, and it's gonna probably come out
Speaker 2: soon whatever they want us to know that is. But
Speaker 2: also on this board of permandex you have to understand
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of people on here. Now listen, listen
Speaker 2: to this board. Okay, Lewis Mortimer Bloomfield, I promise you
Speaker 2: this is going to come out in these JFK papers
Speaker 2: uh for for neck NAUSEI okay, former Prime Minister of Hungary.
Speaker 2: Now these are supposed to be upstanding businessmen. We're going
Speaker 2: to get there. Giorgio Mantello, Roy Cohne, Joseph Bonano, recognize
Speaker 2: that one. The mobster, Jean Demonil French, right, the French president.
Speaker 2: I think it was.
Speaker 1: Mobsters because in New York you had to deal with
Speaker 1: mobsters if you wanted to be a businessman.
Speaker 2: True. Also we have a count. We have Count Guitara's
Speaker 2: dispadofa spadafora But anyways, Mussolini's guy. Okay, So we're doing
Speaker 2: we're basically in bed with like all kinds of interesting things.
Speaker 2: We've got a mobster, We've got a Mussolini guy. We've
Speaker 2: got Roy Cohne. Like it, kid's interesting. Okay. So we've
Speaker 2: also got Hans sell Seligman, which is a banker from Basil. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then we also have Carlo. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 2: wish their names weren't so hard. M I'm gonna spell
Speaker 2: it A N A L V O attorney and guess
Speaker 2: who he's the attorney for the House of Savoy. So
Speaker 2: Max Hageman, Miner Shibogi, Giuseppe Zagatti, another Italian fascist.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And this one's my favorite one. Clay Shaw. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: Clay Shaw from the CIA. He's on the board. Yeah
Speaker 2: for next h simmer fay so c I A right,
Speaker 2: but all of them, all of this stuff right now,
Speaker 2: his uncle is. That's why he talks a lot about
Speaker 2: his uncle is because he's doing a flex when he
Speaker 2: does that, because he was you know, he was in
Speaker 2: good with Tesla, because Van over Bush was Tesla's like protege.
Speaker 2: And then he's best friends with him. So that's how
Speaker 2: that connects. But we're talking about on Permanex. It's funded
Speaker 2: by Halliburton, It's funded by all of these big people. Okay, Senators,
Speaker 2: we're talking roy Cone, New York City, industry, all these
Speaker 2: Dornburgers on there. Don't forget about that. Aerospace once again,
Speaker 2: Aerospace coming up, and Pan American, all these like different
Speaker 2: companies that are behind Permandex including Heineken Brew which is Bronfman.
Speaker 2: The Bronfman family is if you don't know, it's like huge,
Speaker 2: and then it's headed by Bloomfield.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and tied with pan Am by any chance, because
Speaker 1: PanAm was one of the biggest companies back.
Speaker 2: In the day. Yes, yes, it's the it is PanAm
Speaker 2: because they just called it that, like PanAm instead of
Speaker 2: Pan American PanAm. For sure, I never said that and
Speaker 2: then now and then, so you have to know though.
Speaker 2: This is basically this is how this Permandex is described.
Speaker 2: It's a holding company, but it's an assassination cabal and
Speaker 2: they have like all these little drawings on it, okay,
Speaker 2: like of how to trace it down, and it comes
Speaker 2: down from the Crown. So it goes from the Crown
Speaker 2: to something called the World Wildlife one thousand and one Club.
Speaker 2: Do you know about this? No, So the one thousand
Speaker 2: and one Club is interesting. It's basically like, let's save
Speaker 2: the world and all the animals and all the things
Speaker 2: in Da da da and they hide under that, okay.
Speaker 2: So basically an old timey carbon footprint bullshit basically. And
Speaker 2: then we've got Permandex, which is a division five FBI
Speaker 2: right above it, and then Hollinger on the side. So
Speaker 2: this is the little graph I'm telling you guys about.
Speaker 2: And they literally went around just like all the coups,
Speaker 2: all all the assassinations, like the assassination on Charles de Gaul,
Speaker 2: the French president, was all done by this company. Okay.
Speaker 2: So Permandex was literally formed just to do coups and
Speaker 2: kill people, period. So when we talk about that obvious, well,
Speaker 2: it's interesting it's been split down and split down and
Speaker 2: split down into other companies, but I believe so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so when you're talking about the Brompman connection and
Speaker 2: the Bloomfield connection, that goes back to credit sueee, like
Speaker 2: I said. And then we get into Israel Continental company,
Speaker 2: so permadex connects with Israel and global intelligence work. Bloomfield
Speaker 2: was Britain's special ops executive and the Bromfman's front man
Speaker 2: is Bloomfield. So Tibor Rosenbaum a BCI was also in
Speaker 2: with Permandex, which connects to Masade. And like I told
Speaker 2: you before, it was a permanent index of people to assassinate,
Speaker 2: even though they lie and say it's for permanent industry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so Layne Maxwell's was Massad too. Yes, yep, it connect.
Speaker 2: Believe me, if I kept going, it would connect all
Speaker 2: day long. Like I literally went down the whole thing
Speaker 2: and I was like, is everything connected? Even the Mormons?
Speaker 2: Because I'll show you another picture. I was like, this
Speaker 2: isn't even what. I was like, what am I reading?
Speaker 2: This is so weird? So why was von Braun in
Speaker 2: a Mormon theological film that no other people were allowed
Speaker 2: in except Mormons? Oh fucking weird. Yeah, And it just
Speaker 2: happens to be that he's got the globe behind him.
Speaker 2: He's got fucking rocket next time. Oh yeah, yeah. And
Speaker 2: when you talk this is the logo for permandex. I
Speaker 2: forgot to show it. Well, well, and then we get
Speaker 2: back here, okay, And whenever you get to this word
Speaker 2: right here, I promise you Mormons come up like it
Speaker 2: happens every dayn time. And don't forget that they had
Speaker 2: the one drop rule until nineteen seventy eight, that you
Speaker 2: could not have one drop of any kind of Jewish
Speaker 2: blood or black blood or any of this stuff in
Speaker 2: your bloodline. And so they were very sympathetic to the Nazis.
Speaker 2: They were sending aid over to them after the war
Speaker 2: one of the few people that aided actual Nazis. So
Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting. We can't one hundred percent say
Speaker 2: for sure that all of this is like, uh yeah,
Speaker 2: this happened, but we've got all this stuff obviously, like
Speaker 2: this is proof. And so I mean, I mean even
Speaker 2: Garrison's investigation, like it says right here, according to various
Speaker 2: intelligent sources, the money came through a swissation named Permondex.
Speaker 2: So I promise you guys, when JFK drops, you're going
Speaker 2: to hear this word a whole lot more. You're going
Speaker 2: to hear all about Permandex. And literally they are the
Speaker 2: ones calling the shots. They they were the ones that
Speaker 2: got to call the shots on who won the war
Speaker 2: in the first place. So it's very interesting because of
Speaker 2: the funding behind it period.
Speaker 1: And like it I also think is in all of
Speaker 1: these syops or false flags whatever, always look at who
Speaker 1: has the most to gain, And in this instance, I
Speaker 1: would say it would be Lyndon B.
Speaker 2: Johnson had the most to gain out of all of it.
Speaker 2: He was very drunk all the time though, but I
Speaker 2: think the CIA in general had the most to gain.
Speaker 2: And then also just the tops of all the Permandex itself.
Speaker 2: Think of it like the nWo of all the countries,
Speaker 2: like take out just it wasn't just against one person, right,
Speaker 2: like it was all of it. It was all the
Speaker 2: countries deciding like, hey, he's not you know, going to
Speaker 2: play ball. He's not going to do what we say.
Speaker 2: He's not listening, he's not gonna you know, he fired
Speaker 2: Alan Dolas. You don't do that, Like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: Alan Dolas has some connections that are massive, Like Alan
Speaker 2: Dolas was, i mean an attorney for Hitler. The seventy
Speaker 2: percent of the funding for Hitler came from the company
Speaker 2: that Alan Dolas worked for.
Speaker 1: So on the surface, though it looks like Trump is
Speaker 1: taking out all these right, it.
Speaker 2: Does look that way. However, it makes me wonder what
Speaker 2: exactly he's doing because everything that he's doing, yes, it
Speaker 2: looks good on the surface. But then if you dig deep, right,
Speaker 2: like my husband was really into, like oh, look he's
Speaker 2: going to do tariffs and that's going to help everything,
Speaker 2: and then you know it'll bring like all the end
Speaker 2: of stry back to America. I'm like, it's not ready
Speaker 2: if they try and bring it back. We have so
Speaker 2: many stipulations, plus we have laws, we have to pay
Speaker 2: people a certain amount of money. Everything's going to cost
Speaker 2: a bajillion dollars and we're just going to have shortages.
Speaker 2: And he just looked at me and he was like what.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, that's how it's going to go.
Speaker 2: And the tariffs are not going to be paid by
Speaker 2: those companies. They're going to be paid by consumers. I promise, yes,
Speaker 2: because all they're going to do is they're going to
Speaker 2: jack up their prices. Yes, because the companies never take
Speaker 2: the hit for this shit. They just they absolutely not.
Speaker 1: They mark up their their product so that the consumer
Speaker 1: pays for anything that they would take a hit on.
Speaker 1: Their their goal is profit and every year their goal
Speaker 1: is to make more profit than they made the prior year.
Speaker 2: And so they're not going to take a hit on
Speaker 2: these tariffs.
Speaker 1: We are absolutely and I do have to mention before
Speaker 1: I go into the United States is not to bring
Speaker 1: back all this manufacturing.
Speaker 2: It's just not It would be amazing, but it's not ready.
Speaker 2: And to what about I live in I live in Utah.
Speaker 2: It's cold here. I can't burn my own fireplace on
Speaker 2: some days. Because they say, so, how are we going
Speaker 2: to have big cor corporations, you know, putting fumes into
Speaker 2: the air and blah blah blah. No, it's not gonna
Speaker 2: work that way. It's not. And if you think your
Speaker 2: hairspray or whatever is going to be two bucks at
Speaker 2: that point, dream on like it's not. But I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not against it. I'm just saying we don't have
Speaker 2: the infrastructure yet. He's doing these things prematurely, which makes
Speaker 2: me wonder where's all the money gonna go that he
Speaker 2: is taking away from all these people, like the park
Speaker 2: rangers that are all losing their job. You know why
Speaker 2: they set it up?
Speaker 1: He has, he has there's a plan for after the plant, right,
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna stand back on
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2: To get my qubox dusted off and stand back on it.
Speaker 2: But in Q, it was always trust the plan.
Speaker 1: And I will say that like, there is more Delta's
Speaker 1: coming true and Q than there ever has been ever before.
Speaker 1: And if there was ever a time to believe in Q,
Speaker 1: it would be right fucking now because everything he said
Speaker 1: is coming true.
Speaker 2: However, well, gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, however, like every syop has to have
Speaker 1: truth within it. In order for it to be a
Speaker 1: legit syop right right exactly, and and and you know,
Speaker 1: there's just too many things going on. Is like everything
Speaker 1: that you're bringing up about Donald Trump. And and just
Speaker 1: I said this recently, just the fact that everything that
Speaker 1: Amy says, what the fuck came out with that she
Speaker 1: came out with on Black pil Radio, I would say
Speaker 1: three years ago now, was just fucking insane. And it
Speaker 1: pissed me off because I was still a cute tart
Speaker 1: at that point, and I'm like, dude, you can't talk
Speaker 1: bad about Donald Trump. Like, who the fuck do you
Speaker 1: think you are? You can't say bad things about Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So I was totally there. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: bring that bitch on im, like, fuck that shit, Like, Janet,
Speaker 1: you're friends with her, Tell that bitch. I want to
Speaker 1: fucking I want to debate her right now. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I got to prepare for
Speaker 1: this debate, like she said this, all right, let's look
Speaker 1: this up. Holy shit, that's true. Yeah, let's look this.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, his kids really did go to Jesuit schools. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me look into this. Okay, yeah, global leaders, Hey,
Speaker 1: Janet tell Amy says, what the fuck that I retract
Speaker 1: everything that I said. I do not want to debate
Speaker 1: her because she will destroy me. Let me go ahead
Speaker 1: and take my cue hat off. Because if the face
Speaker 1: of Q is Donald Trump, and all this shit I'm
Speaker 1: looking into about Donald Trump is true, and I can't
Speaker 1: debunk it.
Speaker 2: Fuck And I'm I'm not saying he's not gonna do
Speaker 2: good things, but I'm just saying this because you know me,
Speaker 2: I'm I have no skin in the game because I
Speaker 2: don't I don't like any of them. I pledge my
Speaker 2: allegiance to God and that's it, and I wait for
Speaker 2: the fruit of the labors on the rest. So I
Speaker 2: am waiting to see before I throw him under the bus. However,
Speaker 2: we cannot dispute his background, and it worries me some
Speaker 2: of the things that I've seen, and so you know,
Speaker 2: it also worries me that Baron's six foot nine. I
Speaker 2: don't know anyway. He'm fucking Heidi.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna lie like if there was ever
Speaker 1: it takes me out a little. That's him, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, And you know what, you are the perfect
Speaker 1: person to talk to this about, because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I don't think Donald Trump is the anti Christ, but
Speaker 1: him and Heylon, him and Elon together could be curating
Speaker 1: the perfect stage to introduce him.
Speaker 2: Have you seen when I said about Elon's mom? Have
Speaker 2: you seen her? She's very dark and she purposely is dark,
Speaker 2: and she looks like a witch, and she's very into
Speaker 2: some weird stuff. And Elon is very secretive. His whole family, yea,
Speaker 2: is very He just had another baby, like and he
Speaker 2: hit it, and I you know, he only has one
Speaker 2: kid with him everywhere he goes, but he has twelve kids.
Speaker 2: But I think that kid's a clone. Honestly, I just
Speaker 2: think it's weird. I just think it's weird that he
Speaker 2: has one child that he pays attention to and all
Speaker 2: the rest can go to hell. First of all. Second
Speaker 2: of all, Elon's got some skeletons in his closet and
Speaker 2: his family line does also, so I don't trust him
Speaker 2: at all whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So it's probably trying to impregnate, Like they're like, is
Speaker 1: this the one? No, but they know that the Elon
Speaker 1: seed is going to bring it about, so they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get this one.
Speaker 2: Nope, not the one, Nope, not the one. This is
Speaker 2: the one. That's why it's scary. Yeah, it is scary
Speaker 2: because I mean, if you even do not a deep
Speaker 2: dive on his mom, just a surface level, she is,
Speaker 2: she's something. She's into some weird stuff. I'm serious. I
Speaker 2: mean it's yeah, she's got really dark views. She's she's
Speaker 2: very strange.
Speaker 1: And these people don't have center stage for no reason.
Speaker 1: It's not by chance, it's not just we don't believe coincidence.
Speaker 2: Blood Lines matters, absolutely, bloodlines matter. And I'm telling you guys,
Speaker 2: like I don't know what's happening there because I try
Speaker 2: to back and just say look it up for yourself.
Speaker 2: But it has me concerned. The only thing about Trump
Speaker 2: that concerns me is he's a really big wild card
Speaker 2: now because he doesn't care about your reelection vote anymore.
Speaker 2: And also he told all of us Christians we'd never
Speaker 2: have to vote again. So are they going to move
Speaker 2: this into like a king queen thing? Like, are they
Speaker 2: going to move this into like they're going to take over?
Speaker 2: I don't know what he meant by that statement, but
Speaker 2: I didn't like it. But I am very critical.
Speaker 1: I also think that he's going to retire the United
Speaker 1: States of America as a corporation, and therefore the forty
Speaker 1: seventh president will be the last president of the United States.
Speaker 2: But he's also going to be whatever number it is before.
Speaker 1: We became a corporation, and he's going to be like, up, now,
Speaker 1: we are the original United States of America and whatever
Speaker 1: voting that was, because it was like it was, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a structure on it back then, so he
Speaker 1: could be like.
Speaker 2: All right, we're ready.
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm ready to step down, So
Speaker 1: let's have an election.
Speaker 2: Well I know this, you know his number or sorry
Speaker 2: or no, you're he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna he's going to give it to Donnie Junior. Donny
Speaker 1: is going to take They're going.
Speaker 2: To hold out. They're going to hold out for Baron
Speaker 2: for sure. For sure. I think Bear has been programmed.
Speaker 1: You keep it in the family, right, because Donnie Junior
Speaker 1: is a great person for the mag of people to
Speaker 1: vote for coming up.
Speaker 2: And then but did you see him doing the feminine
Speaker 2: energy sigil at the presidential thing and he's like and
Speaker 2: his wife had to like knock it off. I don't know,
Speaker 2: he's not smart enough to keep it under wraps, like
Speaker 2: you gotta keep it under wraps a little there No,
Speaker 2: that was That wasn't donn j that was That was
Speaker 2: another son. I can't his name maybe me right now, okay,
Speaker 2: but another one, Yes, that was Eric. That was Eric Trump.
Speaker 1: And I think I think that Don Junior is going
Speaker 1: to take the reins next and he's just going to
Speaker 1: continue what Trump is doing, and that is curating the
Speaker 1: stage for Baron.
Speaker 2: I mean, we can't definitely.
Speaker 1: We can't overlook these Lockwood angershod lockwooll books.
Speaker 2: Uh be mom heritage, Yeah, his mom's heritage.
Speaker 1: In the same thing, we can talk about how how
Speaker 1: Elon is like, oh, that's not the kid, Op, that's
Speaker 1: not the kid.
Speaker 2: Same time with Trump, same thing with I will say
Speaker 2: this for Baron, he is the moon child. I truly
Speaker 2: believe that they never had another. And she is quoted
Speaker 2: as saying, I do not need another one. I just
Speaker 2: need Baron. I think they planned a lot about him,
Speaker 2: and I I will go on record stating that I
Speaker 2: think he was a moonchild and planned that way. One
Speaker 2: there is they have big plans for Baron.
Speaker 1: He is absolutely whatever their plans for us, Baron is
Speaker 1: huge in what those plans are.
Speaker 2: And also, if you've noticed, and this goes back to
Speaker 2: what we're talking about space is extremely important. Right now.
Speaker 2: They are blowing up the whole space thing like crazy
Speaker 2: right now. And as I've showed you here, when it
Speaker 2: goes to this secret space program, like I've said, dark
Speaker 2: journalist doesn't nobody can hold a candle to his research
Speaker 2: on this. It's like hours and hours and hours. I'm
Speaker 2: talking like at least forty shows three hours each. It's
Speaker 2: a lot. And I'm telling you he is going down
Speaker 2: some rabbit holes. I love his stuff because he'll show
Speaker 2: you docs and I'm like, Okay, now I'm a listening
Speaker 2: because I'm all about proof because i want to go
Speaker 2: see it for myself. Just like that weird church I
Speaker 2: told you about. This is a little tie in that
Speaker 2: weird church that the CIA started. This church came out
Speaker 2: of that church. And have you heard of this church
Speaker 2: before the processed Church of the Final Judgment with the
Speaker 2: swastika and he had it right here Manson Yep. This
Speaker 2: comes out of that. This church comes out of that
Speaker 2: and becomes the Manson Church. It's weird. And we haven't
Speaker 2: even got to the star.
Speaker 1: Laurel Canyon, fucking Baron Trump fucking yep.
Speaker 2: All and one more thing we haven't gotten to our
Speaker 2: star of our show yet. Wee Harvey Oswald, who worked
Speaker 2: at the William Riley Coffee Company. Now, he was known
Speaker 2: to basically not keep a job very well. He was
Speaker 2: known to quit his job all the time. They're constantly moving,
Speaker 2: don't have very much money. That's why his wife was
Speaker 2: staying with that other lady and all of this. Well,
Speaker 2: so she says, we'll talk about that anyway. He works
Speaker 2: at this company and it still exists to this day,
Speaker 2: the William Riley Coffee Company. And all of the people,
Speaker 2: all of them, not just one. All of the people
Speaker 2: that worked at the William Riley Coffee Company making coffee,
Speaker 2: not bombs or you know, spaceships, all got jobs at
Speaker 2: NASA right after jebk happened. Okay, And not only did
Speaker 2: they all get jobs there. And this is real me, No,
Speaker 2: I had to bring the weirdest stuff for you because
Speaker 2: I knew you would understand. Not only that, but Lee
Speaker 2: Harvey Oswald was quoted as saying he was going to
Speaker 2: go work at NASA and he was super excited about it. Now,
Speaker 2: why on earth would this coffee guy the sweeping floors
Speaker 2: be going to work at now if he's not a
Speaker 2: made guy like that just doesn't make any sense. And
Speaker 2: so when you're talking about Lee Harvey Oswald, you have
Speaker 2: to understand a couple of things about him. Number One,
Speaker 2: he isn't what he seems. And I can show you, guys,
Speaker 2: I hope I put it in here. He was here.
Speaker 2: It is friends of David Ferry, that's right, from the
Speaker 2: CIA church from the CIA friends with him and he
Speaker 2: said he didn't know him, but he did, and this
Speaker 2: picture proves it. During the CAP days. So they were
Speaker 2: in this program together when Lee Harvey Oswald was like seventeen,
Speaker 2: so he had not only been groomed, he was already
Speaker 2: in the military then and working underneath David Ferry. And
Speaker 2: so it has come out now that he was in
Speaker 2: the YouTube program as a marine. And then they took
Speaker 2: him and discharged him immediately within twelve hours, which doesn't happen,
Speaker 2: and they put him into the CIA, and literally Lieutenant
Speaker 2: Colonel Dan Marvin, he was a Green Beret, said that
Speaker 2: I was in the Special Forces, and they literally briefed
Speaker 2: us that Lee Harvey Oswald was how to make a
Speaker 2: patsy and that he also knew that he Lee Harvey
Speaker 2: Oswald had been given the operation to kill Castro and
Speaker 2: from an upper window building, and so all of this
Speaker 2: stuff comes out later that Lee Harvey Oswald was definitely
Speaker 2: a CIA agent, and that's why he was so cool
Speaker 2: under pressure when everything popped off and everything was happening
Speaker 2: and they arrested him. That's why he wasn't even breaking
Speaker 2: a sweat. He was just look at his face. He
Speaker 2: doesn't get a shit. Okay, he doesn't because he's thinking,
Speaker 2: they're going to come get me out of this. Who
Speaker 2: shows up for Lee Harvey Oswald is interesting. It's a
Speaker 2: mobster lawyer and he didn't even call him. He just
Speaker 2: showed up but ties back to perm Index. So it's
Speaker 2: really he was screwed from the beginning. And that's why
Speaker 2: one of the saddest things you'll hear from him is,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm the patsy. And it was that moment
Speaker 2: that he understood it that was like utterly sad, utterly sad.
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for him because not only did
Speaker 2: all of his buddies like betray him. Marina's dad was
Speaker 2: a Russian Army intel officer and she has been said
Speaker 2: that she's in the FBI. And the reason why we
Speaker 2: know that is because Ruth Payne was in the CIA,
Speaker 2: the lady she was staying with, and they didn't ever
Speaker 2: let her go back to that lady's house after everything happened,
Speaker 2: because they were like, she's in the CIA and Marina's
Speaker 2: in the FBI, and so they split them up. And
Speaker 2: all of the interviews with his wife were done through
Speaker 2: Ruth Payne because they didn't have anybody that spoke Russian.
Speaker 2: So god only knows what she really said. She came
Speaker 2: out later and tried to really stand up for him
Speaker 2: and say, no, it wasn't about that, blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: but they've literally shut her up. Do you think she's
Speaker 2: a relationship? Was a fucking h She was a prostitute.
Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the cartoon no Utopia, the it was John
Speaker 1: Cusack is in it and it came I don't think
Speaker 1: I've seen it. It came out right before COVID hit
Speaker 1: and it was about a comic book that revealed a
Speaker 1: comic book that had conspiracies in it and it sounds
Speaker 1: like I should have Yes, you definitely should have it.
Speaker 1: And it revealed that there was a virus being released
Speaker 1: on the public and played this character where he released
Speaker 1: the virus and then he had twins.
Speaker 2: I have to watch this, this sounds good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had twins where he infected one of the
Speaker 1: twins and then I had this virologist who created a virus,
Speaker 1: or who created a virus and a vaccine. He was like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is just like your virus and then killed or
Speaker 1: infected one of the twins with it and then said,
Speaker 1: injector with your your your vaccine and then like replaced
Speaker 1: the twins with the healthy one. It is like it worked,
Speaker 1: And so they showed the whole public. Hey, it worked,
Speaker 1: so everybody injected themself with the virus well and just
Speaker 1: happened to come out like right during Covidyo creepy.
Speaker 2: No, I did not watch this, what the hell? Yes?
Speaker 1: But anyways, anyways, so do you think how how fucking
Speaker 1: ironic is it though that he was basically, uh, the
Speaker 1: poster child for teaching patsies and ended up becoming one himself.
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean it's I just feel bad for him
Speaker 2: because he literally thought that he was going to be saved,
Speaker 2: right and also when we get into who killed him,
Speaker 2: this is a picture and even people that know a
Speaker 2: whole bunch about the Kennedy case. Have not seen this often.
Speaker 2: And one guy asked me, is this real? And I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: I vetted it. It's from the CIA government like website.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless they staged it. This is Richard Nixon
Speaker 2: with jack Ruby and Prescott Bush. They're at a conference.
Speaker 2: It's like some sales conference thing. But I'm sorry, this
Speaker 2: little thing right here together it speaks volumes, like what
Speaker 2: what do these men like the bartender like prostitute guy
Speaker 2: owner like strip club owner, not prostitute, sorry, strip club owner,
Speaker 2: And then with the president and Prescott Busch, like it
Speaker 2: just doesn't make any sense. So when you're looking at
Speaker 2: things all around on this case, it's like that everywhere,
Speaker 2: like I could have gone on and on and on,
Speaker 2: even even back to George de Moronshield he knew Jackie
Speaker 2: Kennedy's dad. Yeah, and and one of the other ones
Speaker 2: was like his divorce lawyer or something like Alan Dolis.
Speaker 2: I mean, back to Hitler. Like weird stuff, just weird
Speaker 2: stuff all over the place, And you're just like, is
Speaker 2: this real life?
Speaker 1: Yes, because these are the key players, and these are
Speaker 1: the main actors, and these main actors have kids, and
Speaker 1: their kids become the main actors, and they just keep
Speaker 1: the family going and bloodlines.
Speaker 2: It's blood lines.
Speaker 1: These people are center stage for a fucking reason.
Speaker 2: And why why are all the Kennedy males dead, like
Speaker 2: almost all of them? If I were RFK, I'd be terrified,
Speaker 2: freaking terrified. But don't forget his first wife died under
Speaker 2: curious circumstances.
Speaker 7: Also so and you know when you look at the
Speaker 7: final role like he his his uncle played the key
Speaker 7: figure in this, in the Turning of America, right, the
Speaker 7: key figure, and now he it's to play a key
Speaker 7: figure in bringing it all home.
Speaker 2: Well, but don't forget all the other guys, all the
Speaker 2: other guys that were there and involved in this. Okay,
Speaker 2: all of the other Kennedy guys fought against the system,
Speaker 2: whereas RFK Junior is kind of on board. And you know,
Speaker 2: I find it strange because his wife died very weird circumstances,
Speaker 2: his first wife, Like maybe they own his ass, and
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about that, but I can't prove it. I
Speaker 2: will say this as a little throw into the part
Speaker 2: two or whatever of this. The Mormons go heavy on this,
Speaker 2: and there is very little that I brought here because
Speaker 2: it goes back further to Howard Hughes and the CIA,
Speaker 2: and it ties into this. But for Bobby's dad, for
Speaker 2: rfk's dad, Junior's dad, they are all over it. In fact,
Speaker 2: the person that I believe killed Bobby Kennedy Senior was
Speaker 2: working for the Mormon Church. So and that's on record.
Speaker 2: So I'm just telling you guys, yeah, it's all connected
Speaker 2: into that part of it.
Speaker 1: Is there anything, oh yeah, that you want out here
Speaker 1: tonight on this episode?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 2: One thing, if you guys want to check out some
Speaker 2: of my research, This book Age of Secrets is really good.
Speaker 2: This was written by a key player to a lot
Speaker 2: of the precursors to all of this permandex This has
Speaker 2: a lot to do with the Mormons and their infiltration
Speaker 2: of Howard Hughes and I do have a whole presentation
Speaker 2: on that. It's on my channel if you guys want
Speaker 2: to check it out by Age of Secrets. It is
Speaker 2: really good. And so Gerald Bellett is the one that
Speaker 2: has got it published here, but it was from or
Speaker 2: I mean wrote it for Meyer Publishing, and that was
Speaker 2: Meyer who John Meyer. He was actually there and includes
Speaker 2: excerpts from his diary about the RFK assassination so very
Speaker 2: interesting stuff. We'll go ahead and live that link down there.
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, we can't leave it like that.
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