Speaker 1: Get up the bait, Get up bait times, Get up
the fitch. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the
geek First Podcast, six hundred and thirty sixth episode of
the Staying Podcast on the Clown Prince of Halloween. Trust Now,
I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By I'm Big Crash, Kirk Patzer, I'm.
Speaker 3: The Ballerina Dylan Muss, I'm the.
Speaker 4: Spooky Spooks Taylor Field Spooky Spooks.
Speaker 1: Is that your song in Music League? Is that the
one you put there? Say that's okay? And you got
like one point for me? Someone putting some what was it?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Sorry, Mike, you're probably listening. I know you probably put
in the beal Juice song. I gave you the most
down votes because I don't like musical.
Speaker 4: You got my most down votes too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't a good pick. And then whoever put
in a monster if I just and Biever also got
my most down votes and they're there the bottom two.
So yeah, but uh yeah, it is that time of year, Halloween.
You know, lots of good stuff happening, lots of scary
movie scary topics. We're gonna talk about day like the
Joker box Office. That's scary. We got a couple horror
movies and fuck the most scariest one of them all.
Our main topic, Vantom three is out next week, and
oh boy, that's gonna be something. But uh, before we
get in that, we haven't done this in a little bit,
Taylor took my one of my questions, So, dyln't you
give a brief and option everybody. I was gonna ask everybody,
of course, what they've been watching since our last newscast.
Then also a big shout to all our Canadian listeners
that I hope you had happy Thanksgiving this past week,
and hope you ate some food or just enjoyed a
couple of days off, or even then if you had
to work the money, you just think you got to
get that nice, glorious double time. So whatever it is,
I hope you had a good holidays for all our
fellow knuckers out there. But Dylan, what did you do
over the weekend?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: What have you been watching lately? Before we getting some
news and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a nice chill Thanksgiving weekend time with
family time, sitting on the couch, just chilling. And I've
been watching a lot lately because we haven't done newscast,
or at least I haven't been on one in like
two weeks, and I was sick for a bit, so
I was just big sitting on the couch watching things endlessly.
So I have a lot. I'll blast through some of it.
One is a nice Travis as per your recommendation, I
watched Blink twice. Oh and I enjoyed it. I liked it.
I think it was a good time. It was just
cool to see Zoe's victorial debut in that way, I
think I'm overall I have like similar thoughts too, but
just a more muted version where I didn't mind the
third act as much as you did, except for like
the last scene I just kind of hate so much.
Speaker 1: But then you see where I'm coming from though, Like.
Speaker 3: It's off the wall. It's like a Tarantino, just like
crazy like ending sort of situation in that way.
Speaker 1: So it's how Lenny likes him though, right, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, singing in the singing in the shower there so,
but then I feel like Act one and two I
also wasn't quite as hot on though I did enjoy
the movie. But yeah, I really like the cast. Very fun.
Surprise couple of people in there, So it was a
good time. I enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: Tatum's great. Hey, I think Tatum's really good.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I know a little more muted,
like I don't know, if I'm there, we're like, wow,
performance of her career. Like I guess it might be
because I just haven't seen him in many non comedic things.
But yeah, he's he's good. He's good, but you know,
he's uh, he's not.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be making in like
the top contenders for Golden Geeks for example.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, we'll see in January.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And then I also watched hit Man recently and.
Speaker 1: I like or the movie on the video game.
Speaker 3: Okay, Glenn Powell, I just should go back and watch
this hit my movies because I.
Speaker 1: Was wondering because randomly it came to Netflix recently. It
was number one movie on Netflix in Canada. Very random.
But I don't think people like that, like every.
Speaker 2: Time it's on Netflix, it's in like number one, it's
like top ten in Canada. For some reason, US Canadians
just love that movie.
Speaker 1: I think that's a classic movie that was just like
on Spike a bunch.
Speaker 3: And I like the old hit Man you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like the one with two with the olphont
the very first one. They did make a second one
that I think no one saw. I love the game series.
Still have never seen that second movie, and I don't
think I've met anyone that has.
Speaker 3: All the movies were kind of just known to be
very bad.
Speaker 1: I I wouldn't say that that first one's bad. It's
just very generic. But it was number one in Canada
Netflix for like oh nine days or something that I
was wild.
Speaker 3: And I see that, so another algorithm thing where they
like they just show you like they should know that
I would care about that. But yeah, anyway, I watched
The New hit Man with Glenn Powell, and yeah, I
loved it. I thought it was such a great time.
I mean, I haven't seen Glenn Powell act a whole lot,
but I thought he did a really great job here,
like in some of the more emotional stuff, even though
it is a mostly kind of comedic movie, but he's
you know, doing all wearing all sorts of different hats,
so that was really enjoyable. The second lead I don't
know her name because.
Speaker 1: She's just fantastic because she was nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I didn't know she was and watched like
two movies back to back with her, and I think
she's really good in both of them. And it's just
such a fun movie. I I just had such a
good time. I feel like it's such a it's you know,
there is some dark subject matter, but it is very
light and I just feel like it's gonna be one
of those ones that I just want to put on
every once in a while. It's like a comfort movie
in that kind of way. So yeah, I was really
I was really pleased with that one. That was a
good time.
Speaker 1: Who wants to take a shot of that? Now? I
will say that last a is not supposed to be there.
Speaker 3: That was an era on a R Joan nine. Sorry,
is there supposed to be the accent on the No?
Speaker 1: I just said that was a mistake. That's by side
the enter bar and I did that accidentally. But yeah,
So Adria A Drona, Yeah, she's a big popular fan
cast right now. For Wonder Woman. I don't think that's
gonna happen, but that's who a lot of people are
throwing their way behind. But I think I think one
way or another. I don't know. No, I don't think
anyone's going to scuper up. Of course, no one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write her name. And then the last new
movie I watched is Drive Away Dolls, which was just
a wicked, wicked movie that I definitely had on my
radar just because of margaret quality pretty much. But yeah,
what have just insane movie. I mean she's doing like
the weirdest accent of all time. It is it is
and then like so many weird trippy sequences like kaleidoscope,
like LSD trips, some wild cameos in it.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a fun time, but I don't think I
could recommend it to anyone like it's it's not good.
It was just I mean, it was at least entertaining,
but I feel like it was not you.
Speaker 1: Don't think it was good. See, I think I have
the hottest take in our discord. I gave that maybe
like a four out of five. I really enjoy it.
I really enjoyed that movie, had a great time. I
liked all the calmedy. I thought the two leads head chemistry.
I like the zaniness. I I really liked it. But
I'm definitely think the highest and discord, like, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think I've ever watched it again. I was not
it's do you think you'll put it on in the future?
Speaker 1: I think so. I like and those actors, but I
like quality a lot.
Speaker 3: So I just shock factor, like the second time it could.
Speaker 1: Be and that's what I have to test it. But
I think it's one of those just because like I
like quality. So I just feel like if I'm in
a quality mood and that's a movie that's on Prime
or on Netflix, it's like, oh yeah, I like that enough.
Like so I don't think it's an immediate Oh I
gotta watch that again, but I think I will fall
down the rabbit hole, especially because soon I'll be in there.
I wanted to see Substance so bad, but that's out
of our theaters now.
Speaker 3: So that's that's quick. Uh TV show that me and
MUD's didn't binge through, but it's just been once again
a couple of weeks and we watched The Whole Thing
is Shrinking with Jason Siegel and Here's and Forward, which
was a really good time. I really enjoyed that show
as well. And apparently season two is coming out this week,
so that was convenient timing because we didn't even know
a second season's happening. We just decided to check it
out one day, So that was fun.
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of that show. To a
Marvel Alliance who was there, Chris Baal, guy, he's a
big fan of that show on Marvel.
Speaker 3: To hit him up and share some takes drinking.
Speaker 1: Start the Shrinking Alliance podcast, you know.
Speaker 3: But the thing I most wanted to shout out and
talk to you guys a little bit about here, uh
is I finally, for the first time watched Ocean's eleven.
Oh so, I mean, heist movies just a good time.
This movie is fantastic, Like the heist part of it
is fantastic, but just all the characters, the introductions, the
cast is outstanding. You get some wacko like don Cheatle's
accent in that movie is so stupid speaking of silly
accents like Margaret quality there. But man, I love that movie, Like,
I mean, I've always heard about it, but I didn't
really know anything about it, and uh yeah, it's just
it's outstanding. So that's probably the most you know, lukewarm
take of all time. But I yeah, I really enjoyed
Oceans eleven. You guys the fans big time.
Speaker 2: Oh I love oh yeah, I love the Oceans movies.
Speaker 1: You love all the Oceans movies, Kirk.
Speaker 2: I feel like like like the bottom ones are still
like like they're still really good, like like yeah, I
would say, yeah, I do like Oceans.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any movie like lower than a
seven out of ten for me, all four of them.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, because next me and MUDs then watched Oceans
twelve and I was like, this is maybe the worst
sequel I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's worse an Avatar? There's no way, it's.
Speaker 3: Well the first movie. I don't think the first Avatar
is great.
Speaker 1: So okay, if it's pretty.
Speaker 3: It's a drop drop off. But the first one is
also like, you know, a six whatever. Yeah, man, that
movie it's going for some stuff. There's some crazy things there,
but I feel like it just jumped the shark and
I could not understand anything that was going on. So
maybe on a rewatch when I actually.
Speaker 1: It's better on rewatch. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 3: I just I just think that they're trying to be
too cute and cool or interesting or funny and like
the Fourth Wall stuff was kind of interesting, but then
also didn't work a lot. So I don't know. I
was very very disappointed in and I'll say that after
watching the first one and being surprised at how much
I loved it.
Speaker 1: Three does make a recovery, so I don't I don't
think you should abandon it completely. I think three they
take all the criticisms and they go, Okay, let's that's
real back. And I feel like eight, which is like this,
it's a sequel. Even though it's eight, it's a sequel
because it's Danny's sister. I think it's much more like
the first as well. And uh yeah, who knows we're
supposed to be We're supposed to getting two more Oceans movies.
We're getting that, right Ocean?
Speaker 3: Would it be that same director coming back? Do you think?
Speaker 1: I think that's a maybe. He's like retired and unretired
a couple of times.
Speaker 3: So I think it's I don't really know much about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know they got Oceans one in production
right now or in pre production with Margot Robbie and
Ryan Gosling. It's supposed to be Danny Ocean's parents, which
I don't know how I feel about. And then they
supposedly are making Ocean's four team with with a mix
because like obviously Bernie Max passed away so he can't
bring him back. And the guy who plays I can't
remember his name in the Oceans movie, he's kind of
the oldest one there. He's also in Friends. He's Monica's dad. Yes, yeah,
he's passed away now. So there's a couple of them.
So I feel like you'd get that. Maybe you'd get
like a couple of young up and comers, get a
Miles Teller in there, or Glenn Pale or something. I
don't know, like it like that. That's the thing, like
we don't have. We don't have like who's our Brad
Pint George Clooney, who are like big stars but notoriously friends.
I don't know if we have that, that has to
be like Timmy Shalomy and somebody I don't know, Austin Butler.
But even then I don't look at those good friends.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's kind of random.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should pull what I really want is I
want and I think he should be the villain. They
should get Ben Affleck in there, so you get that
ben Affleck Matt Damon connection with the George Clooney Brad
Pitt connection. You know, that's what I'm pitching as a villain.
I like it absolutely, Matt. You can see him own
a casino being a shit like fucking asshole, right, like
you get Ben Affleck could do that real well, I.
Speaker 3: Don't even have to act, he would just be himself.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's a hard actor for me to
like put into the villain role. If I didn't see
The Departed like like before that, it's just like that demon.
Speaker 1: Oh I think he's like okay, I was very confused. Yeah,
he's great. And like Interstellar, he's great too. Is his
Vinning villain, which it's not in the news. Yeah, it's
not on the news because it's not a big topic.
But they announced that he's he's the star of Nolan's
next movie. So that's exciting. It's it's kind of funny
how like you got uh Murphy who's multiple times been
like a like a minor lead or like a minor
supporting actor and then gets the lead. And same thing
with Damon, right like Interstellar you have and I think
he's like a voice and Dunkirk and then he's an
Oppenheimer and they're all like good roles with their small role.
So I'm curious to see what they're gonna do together.
Speaker 3: You know, is that is it announced that he's the
lead of the next one.
Speaker 1: It's pretty like a it's like s Tier Scooper saying
he's the lead and stuff, and it comes out and
he doesn't. Twenty six, which is stacked a year because
we've got like Spielberg movie, Jordan Peel movie, we got
a Nolan movie, we got The Batman. There's tons of stuff,
so that year's getting really.
Speaker 3: Tarantino will be done whatever he's working on by then.
Speaker 1: Probably maybe yeah, it'll start to script over again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, that's me. I I don't normally share
a lot in what we've been watching because I don't
usually watch a ton. So I was been blasting through
a lot of things last couple week, just gotta.
Speaker 1: Get sick more, you know, more sick and then more
movies for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been microdos and fun various diseases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you, taor how's your Thanksgiving? What you've
been watching?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving was pretty good, pretty good.
Speaker 1: I just got full of shit faste that's full of trip.
Speaker 4: To fan, just all over me, and it was just
so good.
Speaker 1: What would you say all over me? No? What you.
Speaker 3: I'm as lost as Travis.
Speaker 2: I'm ap to fin. It's the chemical and food that
makes it lest That's what I said again from your
little pop up.
Speaker 4: You never heard a trip to fan.
Speaker 1: No, I don't drug people, so I don't know what
that is.
Speaker 3: You can say turkey. You can just say you ate
a bunch of turkeys.
Speaker 4: I like saying tripp to fan. It just feels like
it's got some.
Speaker 2: Girl breaking it. It's it's chemical proper to get.
Speaker 3: Enemy or something.
Speaker 4: It hits me hard, like even if I had a
whole turkey and I had a Monster Energy drink like
you might, it's it's it's just chaoic.
Speaker 3: You could have a monster bounce out and then you're
just like regular tailor.
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I wouldn't.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't try it.
Speaker 1: Though they don't bounce out. You have a Monster Energy
drink for cast, you're you're like falling asleep at ten
ten and you're like, oh my god, and this thing,
yeah you got me there.
Speaker 4: But no, it was a good Thanksgiving. It was a
lot of fun and.
Speaker 3: No Tripp de Fan on the twenty four Hours Dream tailor.
Speaker 4: Okay, no turkey, there's me no turkey. Uh it was.
It was a good good time. But what else was
popping off? Finished? Almost finished Halloween costumes? Madisons came u,
which is great, and then mine is done and I'm
just putting the finishing touches on the like the back component,
because I built this whole rig from scratch. I'm not
saying what it is yet because it's a surprise, but
I'm so fucking happy with how it's turned out. It looks,
it looks nice.
Speaker 2: I'm picturing one of the mechs from Avatar where the
kernel's in.
Speaker 4: I'm the mech.
Speaker 2: Teen's the colonel, Madison's the colonel. But it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 3: Keep it that way.
Speaker 4: What have I been watching? I did Salem's Lot not
too long ago. That was a lot of fun. I
had no pre existing insight into what that story was.
I never watched the old TV like straight to TV
show that they did I think a while ago for
that movie.
Speaker 1: There's a movie they made like in the eighties. Is
that what you're talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard that. It was like a straight to
TV kind of like thing or something. I don't know
much about it, but I like the movie. I think
this Same a Lot film did a good job at
kind of creating a claustrophobic atmosphere. It's pretty good. I
haven't read the book, so I can't make that comparison
if it's shit or not in regards to that. What
else have I been watching?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 4: Look at this list here, going through the conjuring movies,
going through my select not all Friday thirteenths, but my
select few that I tend to enjoy over the other ones.
Speaker 2: Terrifier.
Speaker 4: I am still only halfway through that, and I'm working
my way to finishing it because I want to watch
the second end Terrifier three. But I got confused because
I was looking to uh like, I was looking at
all the terrifying films, and I think that there were
there were two. There was one in like the early
two thousands, the called Terrifier, and then another one.
Speaker 1: Oh well there might have been when they were I.
Speaker 4: Thought two that were called Terrifier, but they had different
release years.
Speaker 1: Well, that's usually how it works with sequels. Are you saying,
are you saying two Terrifiers?
Speaker 4: Yeah, both called just Terrifier and both a different is
the one unrelated to the actual this new Terrifier series
that was had the same name, maybe.
Speaker 1: I think so. I just think that, like, you just
gotta look for Art the Clown and that's gonna distinguish
the too. He's on each poster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is on each poster. That's what kind of
confused me. Oh, maybe the first one was a short
film from twenty eleven, and then the movie was twenty sixteen.
That makes sense. And then there is Sorry, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, Preete, you were gonna say, talking about some about Halloween.
Speaker 4: There was something called All Hallows Eve or whatever that
has Art the Clown on there too. But I'll defer
to you because you know what that is.
Speaker 1: I just watched that for the first time like last
week because I'm gonna kind of in the Terrifying movie,
I'm gonna try and give him another shot. So I've
never seen the short film, but that's how I went.
Short film and All Hallowey All Hellos Eve is like
it's a bunch, it's an anthology movie, but Art the
Clown is sprinkled throughout it, so he's like, you know,
they use him for promotion and then also got Terrifire
and then Terrified too, and then you got Terrifier three,
which we'll talk about the Joker box Office by h.
Speaker 4: Is that the same actor?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like David Howarden. I can never remember. I
suppose always knows it all the top of this tongue,
but I will because I want to show them up
because he's I've said before, I think half or maybe
over half of the success of that movie and that
franchise is won the look and it's him the actor.
Because I don't I mean this in a nice way,
because like, man, he's got David Howard Thornton. These guys
are killing it. I'm so happy for him. Like independent movies,
even Terrifier three, Terrifier two did well, and even studios
they still don't want to pick up Terrifier three. They
don't want it, Like you're not seeing any previous for
Terrifier three on TV. But it's the number one movie
it made in one weekend, as much as Terrifier two
beat fucking joke Ertoon Sewing. So they're killing it. But
I can say that by saying I don't think they're
good movies. I think they are, Like I think that's
what I want to give them another shot. But I
think they're what people say Saw is, and maybe some
people thinking about Saw and maybe some the later sequels
are for sure, but I think it's a lot of
just splatter pull and like it's well made, it's fun.
I still think like I can, I can enjoy it.
They're all passes for me, but I don't think they're
anything the right home about. But it's uh, you know,
asked Claig. You get the hacks on scene, but yeah,
there Art the Clown's fucking phenomenal. David is such a
great job. Also, we watched him last year when we
watched The Mean One because he played that too. But
he's just such a good physical actor. He's just like
he he like, other than Sam from the Trick or
Treat stuff, We've not had like a horror icon in decades,
but he is. He's like a mime of horror. Like
Art the Clown doesn't speak, and it's so interesting what
he does and all his choices. But yeah, I watched
all hell he's too, and that's the same thing I'm not.
I wasn't. I wouldn't be recommending it or anything. Nless
you want to just complete the Terrifier saga.
Speaker 4: You know, yes, there you go. Sorry, I thought you
were just I thought you were just taking over and
just going for I'll go if you don't know anymore,
I mean, what else were we watching. I've been slowly
going through the Hobbit movies because after Ring Power, like
it just put me into the time. So how how
how it started? I Rings of Power just was feeling
the feel in the Middle Earth after that, so I
went to look up where I could stream Lord of
the Rings and Amazon Prime only as a Return of
the King. They don't have the other two available, which
is very harassed. I'm like, I'm not starting on Return
of the King and I have it on DVD, but
I was like, I just don't want to pop the
DVD in there right now because it's not the Extended Editions.
So there's another thing.
Speaker 1: You don't have the Extended Editions.
Speaker 4: No, I've been waiting to get a four K Extend
Edition bundle?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4: Like, curarly what I'm waiting for. It's been on my
wish list for a while. Uh are they on Max Dalton?
Speaker 1: We don't have Max even know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they're on Crave.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think they are on Max Dalton in
your country. But in Canada we get like most the
HBO stuff, but there's still some stuff that's not the
exact same. So but the only extent, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Prime has all the Hobbits, which has been satisfying
my urge.
Speaker 3: And I got those nice and cheap.
Speaker 4: They got those nice. They're all free, well not free,
but they're all available, and.
Speaker 2: They got abundant.
Speaker 4: After going through Forrings of Power and going through like
so many discussions with you guys. It's actually been a
while since I watched The Hobbit, but I'm excited to
get to Lord of the Rings because I feel like
it's nice to actually be able to understand certain things
that they say, just certain like character names or just
different like like pie events that happen in the in
the story. And I know Rings of Power is not
connected to this universe, but still it just it pulls
from that same source material. So it's it's neat that
you can kind of like connect to different different things
and kind of form that up. Like Angolian, I had
no idea how Gooliant was actually mentioned and in the hobbit.
They're talking about it, like Ratagas is talking about it,
and it's like, oh, that's really cool because now I
know what Angoliant is. After we've had so many discussions
about like the spiders and all that jazz and trying
to tell Madison and she's just like this is stupid,
not impressed, like look at this big spider. Well I
didn't sell it right. I was like, Madas, what's the
biggest mountain you've climbed. She's like, ye, like that's on.
Golian wasn't really me selling it in the best sort
of ways.
Speaker 3: But uh, it's kind of a riddle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of a riddle. Yeah, but that aside.
I mean, I'm just I'm just you know, coasting and
coaxing and having a good time and costing.
Speaker 1: What does coaxing mean?
Speaker 2: Coxing?
Speaker 3: Who are you coaxing?
Speaker 1: Another day?
Speaker 2: There you go, Yeah, what have I been watching?
Speaker 1: Uh? Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving was great? Thanks for asking. Yeah, we used our
oven for the turkey because my parents oven was down,
so we used their home but our oven for the turkey.
So basically I cooked the turkeys. So that was a
that was a nice big deal and it was tasty.
Lots of trip to fan in there. Everybody was was
passed out. We got the same batch that Taylor got
and uh, it's it was.
Speaker 1: It was really cool for it this already we.
Speaker 2: Ate at like I don't even know what time, like
maybe like five o'clock or something, which is pretty early,
and I swear I was like ready for bed at
like seven thirty. It was. It was a nice early night.
But uh, yeah, it was nice and relaxing, and uh,
the weekend overall was was pleasant. We went over to
have any of you guys been out to the boulder
Fields in Cologna.
Speaker 3: No, should give me a rough.
Speaker 2: It's uh like Upper Mission Crawford area sorta No, okay, anyways, Yeah,
there's like rock climbing, just outdoor bouldering, which is crazy
to me. I thought it was like a hike when
we got there, and it's really just like a cliff
side drop off. It's like, man, this is dangerous. Like
I feel like I'm just gonna fall down a hole
and then be on like one of those nutty putty
uh YouTube videos the people we watched about me. But no,
it was pleasant and for it's funny. I feel like
we haven't really been in like the Halloween move. This
month's just going like so fast, and I don't know,
I'm falling behind on Agatha two. So I just haven't
been watching like a lot of Halloween stuff lately. And
Shane and I finally threw on Halloween Town. That was
our first Halloween thing to watch, and man, I love
that movie. I love that movie so much. That was
definitely one of my favorite Disney Channel seasonal viewings. We're
gonna watch them all, I think, and I really don't
remember much, like about two or three. The first one
was really the one that I watched the most of
and it's four. Well there you go. I'm curious how
much of a like a dip in quality they get because.
Speaker 1: They recast Marnie in the fourth one.
Speaker 4: Right, Oh?
Speaker 2: Is that Halloween Town returns? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They don't even why they didn't even contact me.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, that's it.
Speaker 1: They in the at Man's Daughter Marno or Karen's Hour.
Who else they gonna do it? Norton?
Speaker 2: So yeah, poor Norton.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And other than that, uh, we've been watching Over the
Garden Wall, which I don't know if anyone's heard it.
It's a cute little animated show that only has one
season unfortunately, but Elijah Wood is the main voice actor
in it, and it's got like a really cool, creepy
aesthetic to it. It's it's kind of like almost like
a Goosebumps type like like scare level for for kids,
but it's it's it's definitely in the vein of Halloween
seasonal type viewing because it's just like set in the fall,
a lot of like pumpkins and jack Lancers and stuff
like that, and it's it's really really cute. The humor
is really just wild and wacky, and it's like something
ridiculous will happen, but it will be like a really
serious situation. They won't really like draw attention to it.
And it's just I don't know, it's got a certain
charm to it and uh, really really liking it. Elijah
Wood's just fantastic. That's the main character. Wort that's a
name or where.
Speaker 3: Do you watch? Where are you watching? That one?
Speaker 2: That one we have it's like a Teletoon Plus subscription
through Prime, so we got like a free month through
that and there's some like fantastic things on Teletoon Plus.
A lot of nostalgia shows of just stuff that I
remember watching as a kid, but like the DC Universe
tab on it like they got like Teen Titans and
Teen Titans Go. And it's funny because she watched Teen
Titans Go and I watched Teen Titans as a kid,
So we're gonna watch them both and like compare to
the quality. I always thought Teen Titans was way cool.
It was a lot more realistic for an animated show.
But the Teen Titans goes just I don't know, it's
pretty wilds of defenders.
Speaker 1: It's very fourth wall breaking, and.
Speaker 2: It feels a lot more like an anime versus like
a cartoon. Yeah, whereas Teen Titans seems like more serious.
Speaker 1: So they did an anime movie. They fight each other too,
Teen Titans.
Speaker 2: Oh that's is that Teen Titans goes to the movies
or is that a different.
Speaker 1: I think it's a separate one. Yeah, Okay, it's a
separate one where they have a scene where they like
go into the alley and kill Bruce Wayn his parents
just to make sure becomes Batman likes some some fucking
robin you know whatether way you want to think about it.
But uh, yeah, there there's I've never watched that whole series.
Satan ten times. I don't think I've ever watched the
whole series. I need to go back and do that
because I was always we've over this before, She's ampteen times.
I was not a fan of kid characters. As a kid,
I did not want to watch children. So it's like
teen Titans, like like I want to be Batman, I
want I want to be a man. I don't want
to be the teen titand like I don't probably side
quick sidekicks too right, So it's like like I don't know.
And I think I appreciate Robin, you know, more so
as I got older and stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's fair. What else? What else? We watched
Ellen Chanted, which I think I liked that movie a
lot less the more I watch it. I used to
think that I loved it, But you watch two? No,
I don't even know there was a two.
Speaker 1: Don't Want, don't bother? It was a Disney plus.
Speaker 2: The humor just doesn't really work for me. And Hathaways great,
it's fun. We have what's the chat from Hannibal and Hathaway?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the same movie, Taylor, are you
backing me up.
Speaker 3: There on Google right now. And an Athaway is the
lead of Ella.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's in there for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck never what it looks like she's like fifteen
in it, though it looks like she's very young.
Speaker 1: What's Amy Adams movieh just enchanted?
Speaker 4: Enchanted or enchanted?
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a sequel frill.
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 4: I think there is a sel enchanted?
Speaker 1: Oh ship is sorry Amy Adams in this movie?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well okay, oh doctor Gordon.
Speaker 2: It's got some big nings for sure, but like the
humor just is not really I don't know, it doesn't
get me. But he's sweating. What's you got him good
that time?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, Unfortunately I'm looking that movie less and less
the more I watch it.
Speaker 1: How mean you watch that? You say it like it's
like a yearly watched.
Speaker 2: Like Shae really loves that movie, so I feel like
every every three years or maybe like she'll just get that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much time to end it now, you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I like a Hathaway a lot, so
I'm I'm a sucker for that. What else do we got?
What else we got? Shae? Watch Fall Guy for the
first time?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I liked it? A lot more the second time around.
I'll say that I think I just had a lot
of hype going into the second one, Like I was
expecting the same level of a ride that we got
from I'm excited to watch that one.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 2: I liked it a lot more. And just the chemistry
between Emily Blunt and Ryan is just they're really good together.
And yeah, I thought it was a fun time. And
then Shane and I also rewatched The Boy and the
Heron because that got added to Netflix and still a masterpiece.
I like it if watch it with the English, Yeah,
oh man, you got you got freaking Robert Pattinson just
going off on the hair and he's he's so good. Yeah, really,
And like, I forget how many big names are in that,
like by de sta oh everyone, Like we like Florence,
Like I forgot that she's in there. She's fantastic. I
really like her, Adams, Amy Adams, I picked Matt Demons
in it, leam Neeson, so like, yeah, just a lot
of a lot of nice Taylor Draft sort of names.
Be surprised kier Knightley's not in there or not Kieran Knightley,
My gosh, Kate beckon sales.
Speaker 4: Kieren Knightley too, though.
Speaker 1: She's almost forty. She goes right under. Apparently she's a
spy show coming on January Taylor, so you can get
it on Netflix. Yeah, it's like a spy throw at
her and Ben Winshaw. Remember he was in that Cloud Atlas.
He's a guy that writes the Cloud.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he saw Double seven.
Speaker 1: It is like just said Ben Winshaw, I just heard
lost me at Cloud at Yeah, it's him and ker
Knightley apparently the spies. Yeah, Cloud atlass artist, career composer.
Speaker 3: We don't need to talk about cloud out lists.
Speaker 1: I don't think we did enough of it. I know
somebody we didn't reatch it. So anybody can become a
patron producer. We can do that movie not wrong.
Speaker 3: I mean I'll watch it again for fifteen bucks, let's do.
Speaker 2: Are you done there, Kirkling, I'm all done? Thank you?
Speaker 1: All right? I think I don't think I talked about
in last because I'm gonna see roll through these movies
like today, I watched all his Halloweves. I'm gonna get
to the Terrifiers just to do another run through and
see go. I want to say three, but very odd.
They don't even have it in the Colonna Theater. It's
only West Side, so it's like I'm not seeing the theaters.
I'm night make a trip to West Side for that.
But I saw Wild Robot. Very tough situation because I'll
see two different movies, but that in strange Darling, I
don't know which is gonna be my goal and Gee's pick.
I finished Wild Robot because the anime like, well, this
would be a good one to pick up, because you
know there's always sometimes fall with the wayside. Fantastic movie.
I'd give that a ten to ten. Just multiple moments
where you're gonna become emotional to school war is so
damn good. But yeah, that movie just blew me away.
It's already fucking gonna be on VOD this week. Don't
know why, but uh yeah, everyone watched that. That's just
just because it's like an anime movie. No, it's a
it's great. It just has such a good, like artistic vibe.
The first act it's not like a silent film, but
there's not much dialogue for a while and it's just
music and the art style is fantastic, So love that.
And then Strange Darling, that movie I was worried about
because everybody in the discord was hyping that one up,
and I just thought it's funny because I thought, well,
I the first I don't know if we ever talked
on the trail on the cast. I don't think we did.
And I saw a trade that I'm like, well, this
gave everything away. That was kind of lame, so I
kind of wrote it off, and that's so I was like,
I'll get to it. And I didn't even see in
theaters because it just that was another one too where
we were. I think it came out when we were
I can't remember. I think we were camping and then
we just it's the same thing. If I don't get
to see it on like the Thursday Friday. Sometimes it's
tough because other movies take its place in Da da Da.
But that movie, man, that is such a good fucking movie.
If anyone likes anything like just a semblance of nonlinear storytelling,
this is like up there to me with like pulp fiction.
And I'm trying to think of another one that I
had a couple of my for nonlinear storytelling, but I
have them both as a ten and a ten for me,
this is very different. This is much more of like
a romantic thriller, I will say, but I don't want
to say anything more because anything will kind of tip
the hat. And they just do such a good job,
and so I think I'm leaning towards that one because
Willi Fitzgerald's just she's fucking That is for me, my
best female performance in the year so far, Like with
a Bullet, she just it's like a star making performance. Unfortunately,
I don't think the movie like did amazingly well, so
it's it's a hidden star. But no, those two movies
absolutely recommend. I saw Trap finally. I liked that enough.
I think I was like prepared, but I had more fun,
I think honestly than you did Dylan and other people too,
because I think I was just like kind of went
with the insanity of it. But Harnett was just so
much fun in that. I want to see him do
a bunch more comedies. I was like, hey, I watched
the Conjuring that was on Netflix. I had to watch that.
That's you know, ten ten, one of the great horror
movies all time. Saw Sam's Lot, That's it was fine.
It was a fine watch, you know. That's all right.
And then we got to see Scream at Bernie's, which
was really good. I got to see that in a
theatrical setting, so that was tons of fun because either
it's people that like hadn't seen the movie or don't
know the movie as well enough, so you could see
people getting like jump scares, or just like Arcad and
Lillard were still killing it like in the theater, just
like the laughs. But no, that was great to see
that way, great kind of throwback movie. And then finally,
oh my last two is. I watched it. It's What's
Inside on Netflix. Highly recommend for people in the Halloween season.
But if you like bodies, bodies bodies or type of
I don't want to say murder mystery because it's not
like Knives Out or it's not in that sense. But
it's like even then, like the setup is they play
this game and Dylan, you have to watch it. The
setup is like, oh yeah, it's just like ma or
a werewolf, like their name dropping these things, but it
is the same thing as Strange Darling. I don't even
want to say what happens even try if you watch it,
don't even look at the synopsis because I think that
gives it away, and I had heard and that's what
got me in there.
Speaker 3: I saw the trailer, okay between that and Oceans eleven,
and we went Oceans on that given night. But I
definitely want to check it out.
Speaker 1: It's worth it. It's definitely any movie I know. Manny had
the same thing, where like, yeah, not all the acting
is like the best, like you know, maybe some GV
studios quality, like hey they're they're trying their best here,
but like.
Speaker 3: Good one, and yeah, I wanted to see her in
something else, so I'm.
Speaker 1: Okay see that. It surprised me big time. I think
the third actually a little like it's like all right,
like I didn't like I don't think it ended as
strongly as it could have, but uh no, this is movie.
I think I'll definitely I give it like a four
point five to five. I'll definitely rewatch this many times
in like maybe Halloween season stuff. It was really really
good time. It's like boys, Bobbies, Bodies with kind of
like a a sci fi edge, So highly recommend in
Halloween season. Then finally today I watched The Purge. I'm
gonna watch all the Purges because I've never seen all
them except for the first one, because I remember watching
the first one and being like, this was all right, yeah,
Ethan Ak yeah, and Leanie Hadley for or Heati from
Game of Thrones. Yeah, and I liked it, like I think,
like a tad bit more than when I watched it
the first time. But I just remember watching it and
like that concept's really cool concept no m and then
I just was like, yeah, that was fine, and then
I never returned them. But then they made three movies
and the TV show. I'm not getting the TV show.
I don't. I don't need a Purge TV show, but
the movies I'm on because Crossbones, I guess it's the sequel.
He's in the sequel, and I hear they get better.
Speaker 4: So the sequel definitely, I think it's praise as being
a better one than the first one. I don't know
about the other ones.
Speaker 1: Election year and the first purchase four of them just
for in a TV show.
Speaker 3: I feel like there was more, and I feel like
they're just coming out every year. But I guess not.
Speaker 1: They were for a pretty decent they were for a bit,
but uh yeah, so we'll see all that go. I'm
just looking for a new series and whatnot. So you
know it's folloween season. They're on Netflix, so yeah, let's see.
Oh yes, thank you all. That's another one Memento. If
you like Memento, that's another thing to compare Strange Darling
too as well, that type of vibe in the non
linear storytelling. But yeah, well we're gonna take our first
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Speaker 4: Remember, he's coming back to hold his title.
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Speaker 2: In honor of Sonic too. We'll have to pop out
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Speaker 3: Just a fucking assault rifle in the car.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, God, there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: That's crazy crazy. Yeah yeah. I mean Kirklamen playing some
college football which I've never touched. So if I lose,
then you know whatever, Kirkland you it's really like.
Speaker 3: The best of three or we're not doing that a
regular Madden game and then some weird thing.
Speaker 1: I don't want to subject you to that, Dylan, that
that's a Madden that's like that's a five hours stream, right.
Speaker 3: Five hours? No, you cannot change it? Can you not
change the settings to get like a nice thirty minute
what I'm down twenty four hours to phill to do?
Speaker 1: We'll see, the man is a lot what you.
Speaker 3: Can do after eating some trip defense at three am
like that you don't need you don't need full alertness
to do that battle.
Speaker 1: Like if you two are out that that that sure.
I think what has to happen is you've got to
see how this match goes, because I think Kirkland has
everything to lose and I got everything true.
Speaker 3: If Kirkland loses that, you don't even need to do
best of three.
Speaker 1: So that's I'm gonna reveal.
Speaker 2: I'm going to them Travis in the football game.
Speaker 1: No no one has in like over decades of Kyle
one time on a fluke in gauntlet because my player
got down injured. If Kirkland does beat me, this is
before thinking too. Yeah, not the player I've never forget,
but don't bring up. But what I'm gonna say this
is forward thinking. If Kirkland does beat me, what I
want to do is for the ten year, I want
to bring back the Geek for his Ganlet tournament and
Kirkland defend that title and then that's when we can
do that best of three of man. So do like
the original Gek for his Gallant Tournament where that title
just on the line. We do the one night round
robin and just see who holds that trophy. And that's
all I want to do for ten year.
Speaker 3: Four football specifically or or.
Speaker 1: No, just the whole thing, like all of us, the
whole thing. But that's why I mean me Kirkland could
face off and that'd be the time. Let's do best
of three, win title and trophies on the line, you know,
and because kirkla like you know, he won the galet title.
He never had a defendant though, like me, tear dilln
we all have to defend it. We won it, we
lost it. Kirkland just won and then the league ended.
You know, it's like he got a he got all
Scotch free. That was the finale, but.
Speaker 4: The end of the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why three years later you'll defend it in
a big tourney. But yeah, Extra Life lots of fun things.
We also all the games we're gonna be playing Strikers
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the virtual monster energies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So let's see Venom three van in
the Last Dance that's coming out next Thursday, So of
course we will be here reviewing it, and I'll just
go around the room. Kirkle, I'll start with you, the
Vanom Boy, spidy boy, where's your excitement for the last Dance?
You're ready to get those red shoes on and go
to happen.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna leave the red shoes at home
for this one. Actually, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty low,
like like, yeah, it is really low. Honestly, I I
just I don't I don't remember having like a good
theater experience with you with these movies, even though I
thought I remember really enjoying the first one at least
because we all went and saw it together. It was
kind of time with it.
Speaker 1: I think we just had a good time with it,
though I don't know if it was enjoyable, but we
had we had some fun.
Speaker 2: That second movie just did me in though that that
was a horrible movie and it was a horrible theater
experience as well, like the speakers were just so cranked
and like, I think it's the last time I was
actually like pissed off in a theater, which is it's
always nice to be going into the next movie. Uh,
you know that caused that result. But yeah, I'm really
not expecting much. I'm really hoping that they don't just
do a horrible job with Noel and but that could happen, so,
I mean it happened with Cletus Cassidy in the last
film with They're.
Speaker 1: Very capable of doing a terrible job.
Speaker 2: So it's like, hopefully they can minimize the damage and
not bring in other characters that I find interesting and
I just do a horrible casting or maybe just tweak
the writing on the character make them really bad. But yeah,
I hate to be super negative on anyone that is
looking forward to this movie, but I really am not.
I just seeing this like in the in the news
for today's topics, it's just like, oh, my gosh, that
movie that's coming up already, like, oh my gosh, here
we go. But I mean that being said, could be surprised.
We'll see. Maybe I'll get told jeary eyed by seeing
the end of this relationship between Eddie and Venom. But
I'm sure this movie will make pretty damn close to
a billion dollars, so I'm we'll probably just keep getting
more of them. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: We'll see. I got some tracking numbers for you, so
I'm excited, Dylan.
Speaker 2: You so I'm seen.
Speaker 3: Venom two, right, I still have not seen.
Speaker 1: You're getting ready You're gonna.
Speaker 3: I don't want to, but I think I will. You
know this happened a couple of weeks ago where I
just I wasn't feeling Joker, and then I decided, you
know what, I'm not gonna see Joker. And it turns
out everyone else in the world made that the same
decision apparently. But I think I am gonna buckle down
and sometime the next week watch watch that goddamn second movie.
Do you guys know where it is? It's streaming somewhere
convenient to the ars.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is. I think it's been
on Netflix a couple of times, but.
Speaker 3: They tried to get rid of the evidence and just
burnt the tapes of it. But yeah, I'll probably I'll
probably jump into that one and then. But you can
tell my excitement is very very low on this. However,
my where my excitement more is aligned with is the
Madame web review more vious review. Those are good times, man.
I enjoy those even with the movies are just train wrecks.
So I think I'm gonna in joy it for that
experience of it. But yeah, the hype is incredibly low
for sure.
Speaker 1: Stars. Oh yeah, maybe on Stars. I currently have Stars
right now because I Stars.
Speaker 3: It's an extensional Apple or something Amazon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's only five bucks, but if you've never
used your seventday trials, so I had to use it
because nowhere in the world had Superman three last week,
so I had to do that, and then I went
to cancel it today and then they gave me three
dollars for the next three months. So I'm like, all right,
I'll take that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how they get you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll be sure and Janey drop a honey,
who you suck. I'll be sure in January to get
rid of because I want to rewatch I saw Maddie
was rewatched them saw ten. I haven't watched that since
the release. I'm like, oh, I should give that rewatch
Old John Kramer, you know, the good guy this time.
But so maybe it's if you want to pay like
three five bucks.
Speaker 3: I think we got I think once again. Oceans keeps
coming up. I think we upgraded the free trial of
Stars to watch Oceans twelve. I think I have it
for like a week. So yeah, I try and sneak
in there and watch it.
Speaker 4: Perfect timing, crazy Taylor, Oh Stars are venom both, I
mean Stars. Yeah, I've already used my free trial, but
I renew it every once in a while.
Speaker 3: Because you do the three dollars three dollars three months,
you get that deal.
Speaker 4: No, no, I didn't do the deal. It prompted it.
I was like, you know what I'm done. I put
my five bucks in nothing else signed.
Speaker 1: Why five bucks I got it for I got for
free and then three dollars. What are you doing wrong?
Speaker 4: Because you did you did the trial? Yeah, I already
used my trial, so I was canceling and they're like, oh,
you know, stick around for three bucks, Like no, I've
been around this this road before I'm out.
Speaker 3: It's kind of sad. It's like, what are you guys
gonna do with three dollars? You know, you really got
to beg and plead and when I'm trying to cancel.
Speaker 1: This, we'll do a lot of three dollars.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you can work in your favor, like Adobe Illustrated,
for example. I was like, okay, seven day free trial,
I'm gonna use it, and then I went to cancel
it before they charged me and like, oh, you know what,
here's another fourteen days on us if you want to
keep it going. I'm like, okay, so we'll see what
they offer me when I can't.
Speaker 3: I was about to say Adobe will get you because
they like they contracted so that if you cancel after
a month, then it's like, oh, well, you've legally signed
on for like at least six months, so if you
want to cancel, it's like, I'll be careful.
Speaker 4: They'll get your soul, get your first born.
Speaker 1: After I miss all the DOUGHI where you just bought
Final like whatever Premiere and you had it for like whatever.
The next version is. Don't do you currently have Netflix
or not?
Speaker 3: Currently Netflix. Yeah, okay, Disney Plus got canceled right after
we finished the van for Stick Retro, but I got
Netflix right now. Venom two is on there, my man,
yeah there, So am I gonna spend the time we
watched the first one? Definitely not.
Speaker 2: I don't think I watch for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll watch a YouTube video like what happened on
ve Yeah, just.
Speaker 3: Like just watch something I remember to watch anything on YouTube,
Venom just doing Venom stuff. There's a fish tank scene,
you know, all the goods.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember I watch it or she Venom.
They gave her the very volumptuous body said and makes
out Tom Hardy.
Speaker 3: Maybe I should rewatch that Riot, you know, I'm riot
that guy. I don't remember this movie at all, right,
I think he does say I swear I reviewed it,
but I don't know anything about it.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I was gonna say something else, but it's
it's right hand off Venom that again. Oh the YouTube
video that because we're reviewing Superman four later and I
was trying to find it and I found on YouTube.
But someone has like get in like thirty five parts,
but it's like they've recorded it on their phone, like
they record the TV on their phone and for a
seconds like do I watch this because I can't find anywhere? No,
I'll find a way. And I just bought it.
Speaker 2: But maybe he's missing like one part in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all very vital for Superman four. Well there you go.
Spub's a resident Fortnite and guy in the chair she Venom,
the design from that first film is coming to Fortnite
this month. Why it's been so long, twenty eighteen? Why six?
But why not? Characters from Last Dance. It's not the
first Venom movie.
Speaker 2: It's about remembering the first where we all started from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the Venom boys came for the first one,
and that's what they're they.
Speaker 1: Got to stop coming as what they need to do.
But uh, yeah, no, I got nothing to add here.
You guys know my excitements at an all time low here, Sony, like,
what are we talking about your morbus, Madam Webb. This
time we got the writer and the person that wrote
this movie who had also read the fifty Shades of
Greatest Movies. They're directing this movie, so and If and
Andy Serkis and like Ruben Fleischer, I couldn't do anything
other like I don't know, We're just kind of fucked.
So like I'm I'm hoping to have a good time.
I think at least Tayara and I will be seeing
the same showing, so at least I don't see alone together.
Seeing of Sony Marvel movie alone is a really tough experience,
like like it it's like a It's yeah, it's like
going to prison. And then right under is seeing a
son Sony Marble Venom movie. But uh yeah again it's
like and said it is the uh ins review. I
think we'll have a lot of fun time. And again,
I you know, for the people that like it, I
hope you're having a good time with it, because that
means somebody's enjoying it, right, So that's where I'm happy
for you. I'm trying to find the box office for
this thing, but I was trying to find but anyway,
so Kurtle and you're talking about the track and everything
like that. So a couple of weeks ago, it was
tracking at like one hundred million plus it's gonna be
its biggest opening, you know, out of the three. And
then it went down from like I think like eighty
to like a seventy and then right now tracking at
like seventy, which would be its lowest. And I bring
this up because this is the same thing that happened
with Joker, where I was tracking to be bigger than
the first one and then it was like gone par
and then offsee was like much lower than that. I
don't know if that's gonna happen here. But even though
this sounds very bad, as you know, I said, oh,
people enjoy it, I am so so hoping that what
happened to Joker too happens the Venom and not because
someone might be like, well, Travis, you love kombic movies,
why would you want but those making them? Because I
don't want them to make these ones. I want them
to finally wake up and go okay more. Be it
like that one strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out,
like to go from Morbius to Madame Web to Venom.
And let's say it just does what Joker does right,
and I think it'll still do better. I think it
has a broader appeal. I think, you know, it's not
a musical and everything like that, but I think that
it still is a broader pier. I don't but at
the same time, I talk about a little bit. As
Travis told you, like weeks agoing into predictions, none of
us thought that was gonna have a joker like, oh,
won't be an Alcaman Marvel's thing, right, so like maybe
that will have more with Venom. Maybe Venom will come out.
And because like I was looking at this, I was
showing this to Emily today and like and I showed
this to Tanan Kirkle on Facebook. Well, like this is
the Colonna screen right now, first screening coming out for Vanom.
Not a single seat sold, and then Westside with the
big theater looks like, you know, almost ten around there
like this, we're like a week away from the Kirkland
somewhere in there. We're a week away from this big
Marvel release, and the theaters are empty or practically empty.
So I'm gonna try to find the opening weekends for him.
I can't for the life of me, right, I don't
know why, but yeah, the first movie, I'll start with
the overall. So the first movie bucked in at about
eight hundred and fifty six million dollars, and then the
second movie came in at five hundred and six. Now,
remember it had come out like end of twenty twenty one,
so that kind of like theaters are half full, you know,
you can do stuff and everything like that. But obviously
did have a three hundred million dollar drop, So this
is it back in COVID. But yeah, Dan, what do
you think you think it's gonna Where's it gonna fit
with those ones? I'm gonna get the opening weekends also
for you to measure against once I have that for you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the second one is actually a lot lower
than I thought it was in my mind.
Speaker 1: Because it open. The big thing that you might be
thinking is that the opening weekend for the second one
was bigger than the first one, So I think it
had a bigger rush. Yeah, it had a bigger rush
for people go see it. But then I think the
word of mouth was not And again.
Speaker 3: Eighty thousand opening for the first one, or sorry, eighty million,
eighty thousand movies versus ninety million for the second one. Okay,
so ten million jump there for the opening and.
Speaker 1: Right now it's projected around seventy so about twenty million
lower than last one. Yeah, so where's your opening weekend?
Where's your your final tally?
Speaker 3: I think, man, this is this is so tricky. These days. Obviously,
vent or jokers a topic for for us in a
little bit here, but man, it's it's so hard to
protect with these movies. They go all over the place
using my barrama, which is wrong about half the time,
but it's also right about half the time. I feel
like this one is going to I think it's gonna
split the difference between the first two now the second one.
It is maybe the time it released is what did
it in a little bit, but it's still like even
if that, let's say it was a bad time to release,
it's still made five hundred million, so that's still pretty
damn good. I don't know what the budget is of it,
but they show, you know, made a but of some
sort there. But I think it's definitely between the first two. However,
I feel like the opening is gonna be close close
to the first one. So I'm gonna go with uh,
maybe go seventy five million opening, okay, seventy five million opening,
and then overall I'm gonna go with U six hundred
and seventy.
Speaker 1: Two million, seventy two okay, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of I didn't mat that out, but like
roughly in between the first two in terms of overall performance.
Speaker 1: I get what you're putting out there.
Speaker 3: But I would not be shocked if this is another
one of the combook sequels that just eats it. So
I think it's certainly possible.
Speaker 1: I'm sure to see. Okay, So Madam Webb's opening weekend
was fifteen million, man, so like again put a perspective.
Terrifier three, an indie movie that costs him about three
million to make, made eighteen million this past weeknd. I
went with like very little promotion and then Morbius did
forty because that's what's trying to engage. I'm gonna say
part of this is hoping, and Sam says that he
hopes it's a musical. Who knows there's that part where
he dances with miss Chow, so given the name.
Speaker 3: It really could be.
Speaker 1: He never Yeah, I'm gonna go fifty five as a prediction,
and a hope. I hope is like it's like like
like it's twelve, like it's under Madam Web and they're
just like, fuck, we have nothing. Now we actually gotta
go hire some good writers and creatives. But so I'm
thinking fifty five. Oh, and it's just tough of like
what do we got coming out in the next little bit.
I need to just see what's in the week after
and everything like that, because again, also I guess that
doesn't matter, right because Joker just was like, oh, well
we have is Terrifier three and that came out and
fucking beat it, so it doesn't even matter. But let's
see October, okay, So after Venom we get oh not Godzilla,
So there's like a there's not much until there's really
not much at all in November until Glad until the
twenty second Glarion. I can said at some time, I'm
gonna say five, No, I'm gonna say four to seventy
five lower than second. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go lower.
I don't think the word of mouth is gonna be
good here. And I think in a time where there's
so many people making choices and streaming and all this stuff,
and holidays are coming up like and especially like again,
cous Mike, we haven't talked about this since the cast
Wicked second best pre sales of the year, wouldn't have
called that. So that's why I also think we might
be in that stage where people like Wicked Gladiators supposedly
doing good pre sales. They might be like, eah, I'm
gonna save my money for some of these November Christmas
movies coming up like a nos Raw too. You know
they're all saving it for that. But so I'm saying
fifty five opening, four seventy five overall, four.
Speaker 2: Seventy five overall. Hmmmmmm. For the opening, what was the
Venom two opening? It was bigger than the first, don't
say it was.
Speaker 1: Like eighties, the right.
Speaker 3: Ninety opening versus the first one had eighty million.
Speaker 1: Yeah, until No My Home came out. It was the
biggest opening of that year, beat Black Widow and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I will say eighty million. I'll say it'll tie
the first movie. I think it'll be. We're gonna be
pretty high, just judging. I don't know. By the spike
of seats on the West Side theater. I just gonna
take that as my little little case study and try
and multiply that across the globe or domestically. But but
for total A Dylan, what was your number? Six?
Speaker 3: Oh? God? Remember six?
Speaker 2: That sounds right. I'm terrified it to say it, but
I feel like it'll still do really well. So I'm
gonna say eight hundred flat for this one. I'm gonna
I'm gonna be shooting high for this one, even though
I might be hoping for it.
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's gonna do like three hundred
more than the last one?
Speaker 2: I think just the last dance as fact. I also
think that just the name of Nol in the trailer
is enough to like really pull people into wanting to
see it on the Unlive.
Speaker 3: After your parents know who knows?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents big Noll fans.
Speaker 3: They're like Marna knows who know is, but no one else.
Speaker 2: No one knows who knowl Is Kirkland at a lot
of destroyed decks out there. I feel like.
Speaker 1: People Lady Gaga is hardly quitting pulling people in. Fucking
Nol sitting in his chair for two minutes and pulling
people in, I promise, you know.
Speaker 2: How though dancing with venomite, So I don't know. We'll
see what we'll see. Hopefully it's not the case. Maybe
it's one of those things that I'm just hoping for.
I'm saying the guest number and hopefully goes in the
opposite direction. But yeah, I'm shooting big here. Flat though
it's gonna it's gonna be a very flat number other
eight hundred flat?
Speaker 1: All right, Taylor, how many people are Noel will bringing in?
Speaker 4: I think box office, I'd feel comfortable saying it's probably
gonna be opening weekend. I think seventy million. I think
that's a very realistic approach. I'm not as high where
you are, Dying, but I think the seventy is just
low enough t here. But in terms of what it's
going to do overall, Kirklan, I just I can't believe that.
I think it's going to be.
Speaker 1: Wow, I can't believe, Kirk, Fuck you.
Speaker 4: Assholes, because you have Venom two.
Speaker 1: The two is five hundred on a budget that was
one hundred and ten, so they definitely made a profit.
And I'm sure in there, like.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say four hundred thousand four city over here?
Speaker 3: What I said, Oh you said, yeah, because you know
Nol cost them at least two hundred million to get
that character. Yeah, they'd license it from the other Marvel.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what happens with mister Nol here here's a
good question. Do Venom and Nol even interact in this movie?
Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, just interacting?
Speaker 1: Mean, like scene in his head, same scene, I'll say
they there they're within inches of each other.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be within inches. I don't think
they'll be rubbing bodies or anything.
Speaker 1: But they're within a football field of each other.
Speaker 4: You think, so, yeah, maybe you're getting the Madam Web
treatment where they put the college football field or like
a Madden.
Speaker 1: Both football fields. I'm a Taylor where it's like it's
like mad Webb, he's in the trailers. They're going to
talk about him again. Hell, remember when Michael Keaton, Like
some of the stuff we saw, it's mostly an end
credit like that. I could see some Spider Man. I
hope Nol says that. Why in my hair, some do
a Spider Man. But like I think he's you'll get
a little bit in the movie and it'll be like
a fanos thing, like he looks at Earth and he's like,
but I I don't think they're going to interact at all.
I could see that the Noole thing is like a
complete add on, like they.
Speaker 2: Talk butts and seats. That's why that's why they.
Speaker 1: I think it's to gain some internet traction, sure, and
to unfortunately get Tom Hardy into the MCU again. But no,
I think Nol, I don't even think Noel speaks in
this fucking thing. That's my prediction.
Speaker 2: Don't you think he speaks? Crazy, I'll counter that, I'll
say he speaks.
Speaker 3: The NOL fans are gonna be very disappointed with this film.
Speaker 1: The dozens of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think just because on the trailer
they keeps showing his hair from his face. I know
there's all these rumors, but oh there's this actor. That actor.
I bet they don't even fucking cast an actor. It's
just some fucking CGI guy. It's a stunt man with
CGI stuff around him. That's why I think he's not
gonna speak either. That's it's like Fanals in the first Avenders, right,
he didn't speak. He was just some stunt guy that
they hired.
Speaker 3: I don't think they do that much teasing in the
last dance, you know, like that's the kind of from
you throw out in the first one. Potentially what they're playing.
If that's what the long term plan is.
Speaker 1: For him, well so I guess I'll help you this.
At the producer they did some interviews this week and
they said that, oh, this is not like Noll's not
a one and done. You'll see him many projects so
like this is just the beginning of Noll.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't they say that all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the movie bombs.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they're not gonna say, like, oh, Jake
Jon Hall dies in Spider Man, so so get excited
for the movie. But he still dies in the end
of the movie. Like they're never gonna say that.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna say, Venom him don't interact a single bit,
not once.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go football field level interaction for sure. They
throw the pigskin around a little bit, tackles a couple
of sacks, Yeah, a couple of sacks, Kirk.
Speaker 1: When you think they're interacting, I think they'll interact.
Speaker 2: I I maybe beyond a football field length, whether it's
European or American, even cricket field length, whatever the hell
that is football field, I would think. I think like,
I think he'll be like talking in like Venom's head
or something like. I think they'll doesn't count though, how
is that not count?
Speaker 3: That's interest they gotta be.
Speaker 1: They gotta be in person, not just because you.
Speaker 2: Can get that you said interacting, and.
Speaker 1: You can get fucking Troy Baker in a phone booth
for a week like, oh, do some no lines? Like
oh yeah, I got this. Like there, it's like like,
I don't know how you guys are falling for They
just do this amount of web. They're doing it again.
They're remember Spider Man on the Wall wanted and when
we got to the movie Morbus, they just took that
scene out like they're doing.
Speaker 2: It learning, They're getting better. This is why it's gonna
make it eight hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, We're gonna do their review and they're, oh, no,
that was stupid, right, Like I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's honestly best case scenario for me, because
I didn't even want them to do the character to
begin with.
Speaker 3: But I think we're basing our enjoyment of the movie
on whether or not it just happens enjoyment.
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised by the I'm surprised by the predictions here.
I'll say this. That's here's another fun one. What is
the actual screen time of all in this movie?
Speaker 3: It's kind of like gooey and stuff, right, So it's
like it's like if you get a bit of his goo,
is that count?
Speaker 1: Okay? I'm saying purely the white like the body meant form.
Speaker 2: That's now we're actually seeing him.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna say, yeah, well we've seen him in
the trailer, so.
Speaker 2: On screen time is what you're saying. I'm gonna say
under to thirty seconds on.
Speaker 6: Thirty seconds football, and you think he's gonna interact with
Venom midals thirty seconds just to be speaking to Venom
is supply laughing.
Speaker 1: Didn't speak to him. You know he's gonna w Peter.
Speaker 2: He's not even in the movie, just had him in
the trailer.
Speaker 3: They could Yeah, I'll go in the between four to
five minutes, and Taylor looks like he agrees with me
on that, I would say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there, yeah, he says, what do you think, Taylor,
I'm all it over a bit, say that again.
Speaker 2: Speaking for him over here.
Speaker 1: Thirty seconds okay, So Kirkleing and Tailor thirty seconds. Dan's
forty five minutes and I'm under two minutes forty.
Speaker 3: Five four to two five okay, between four and five
forty five minutes forty five minutes right time would be
insane for a villain in a movie that's probably an
hour and a half long.
Speaker 2: The chant BT end credit length.
Speaker 1: I think it is like an hour forty without credits.
Speaker 4: They've said, So I love that.
Speaker 3: You know, more more complic movies need to do that.
We don't need two hours of.
Speaker 1: This crowd Secret Wars hour and a half.
Speaker 3: I want a short film.
Speaker 1: I want like a Disney's special teacher special presentation. Secret
Wars don't put in theaters, just put on my TV screen,
all right. I'm trying to think, like I'm gonna ask
for returning characters because we like Michelle Williams isn't back.
I don't think cards just coming back. What do we
think happens to Eddie Brock here? What's the story? Does
he die? Do him the Symbio separate? Does it just end?
Same old, same old? Like what do you guys think?
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be like heavily set up for
him to die and then he won't, and then it'll
be a big moment that they separate, and then they'll
be like a little thing at the end that they're
like actually separated, and it's just like what are we
doing here?
Speaker 3: That's maybe Eddie dies and then the like they said opraded,
Eddie dies and then Symbiote saves him.
Speaker 2: It's like a natural way to end, like but then
they're like, no, these movies already, I think they've become
close probably in every movie.
Speaker 4: And they have that.
Speaker 3: Have they done that exact scene because I feel like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did Eddie and the first
one they did Venom because he likes sacrificed himself and
then he was secretly there. I think Venom two got
fucking like Men in Black, like like like flash in mind.
I can't remember other than what he Harrelson and his choices.
I can't remember anything. I can't even remember how that ends.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be garnage.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I like that prediction. I think that was
a good one. I'm gonna go with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Kirkham nailed it on the head the call.
I think they're just saying last dance for the ship
of It and just it's a it's a fun title
because it's tied to Michael Jordan and it's good for
CEO and I think it's just like it gets it
is it is like and it's one of those things
where it's like, okay it maybe if you're should I
see Venom that Oh it's the last one. I don't
care if fucking Eddie, if Tom Hardy says it's the
last go around in a Venom movie, like I we've
heard that before. If you Jackman can say that and
come back a decade later or nearly decades, Okay, I
believe Tom Hardy could you could easily get him back
to throw a couple bones his way. So yeah, they
will leave it that he can be And again they
said the last Venom movie, right, so they could be
doing their sinats or six or as heavily rumored that
he could be inspirement for or something like that. So
just because the last Venom movie doesn't mean that's the
last time we see Tom Hardy as Venom, which I
would prefer. I would like, just to clear, I would
love it. That's what I hope happens. There's a weapon
of mass destruction. They sacrifice themselves and both Eddie and
Venom die so this can't and the whole plant Nol dies,
the whole plan of Simulos dies, like everything dies, so
we can just start anew but accept.
Speaker 4: The little thing that stays behind in Tom Hollands universe.
Speaker 1: I can die too, That's fine. I don't need it,
like sure, cool, give Tom a black suit, but I
don't need it. If if he said to me, like, hey,
we're gonna do a black suit, but we got to
bring on the baggage of party everything. Nah, I got
totally Spiderman three. I'm good. I got the animated series,
I got the calm books. I don't need Tom Holmes
black suit. You know, he's fine, buy a Bureau, you know,
go buy a beer. No bureau Bureau. That's his non
alcoholic brand. So just now him and senday. I just
launched this week. Everyone was mad because he's like, I
got announcement tomorrow and I was like, oh, fucking spider
Man and I knew it was a Spider Man and
then it wasn't it was Bureau, and there was like,
what a fucking loser right now? So he's just making
a non alcoholic beer thing. But you know guys had
alcoholic Yeah, yeah, because he's had. He's a he's a
self claim, Like he admitted that he was dipping into alcoholism.
So this is his Like is it called bureau or
bureau b e r O bureau b e r oh.
Speaker 4: I want to say Barrow Bureau because beer shoies.
Speaker 2: I guess so, But I'm gonna say the idea is
supposed to be like zero beer.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought, so that's why. But if it's
barrow bear, that just sounds like it's like a fucking
gambling virus or something, you know.
Speaker 3: Gambling virus.
Speaker 2: Something bank on this Indian.
Speaker 6: Name spider Man's booze and Tom you can't secrets.
Speaker 1: And it's actually straight liquor.
Speaker 2: It's like all the kids want to ye, what's.
Speaker 1: That liquor that's really powerful that it's not really shy? No, no,
it's no, thank you, that's the one correct. Yeah, it's
just oh that's not all coholic, I swear, but oh
maybe he could be that. Yeah, But then there's that b.
Speaker 2: Row barrow you want to b row? You want to he.
Speaker 1: Should just call it b e r O. But I'm
so hard anyways, Good for good for him, you know,
that's just.
Speaker 2: Critique, no terrible idea, good good.
Speaker 1: Good for him. You know everyone, if you got problems
out there, go get some help. But uh, yeah, I
either way don't want venom to survive this. So I
don't know where we're.
Speaker 2: Let's get my barrel. I gotta get barrows now for
the stream.
Speaker 1: We should for the stream, I doubt can have Why not?
Speaker 4: It's not a zoa?
Speaker 1: Do both?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with a barrel?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's wrong bear?
Speaker 4: I mean it depends how it tastes, because I've had
those other only one way to find out, like lead
free Coronas or whatever, and like they're okay, gotta have
lead and lead free.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's Superman. Fuck. Oh there's another question kind of asked,
but okay, do we see any other Sony characters, so
not the presidented ones, but any connection to a Madam
web Web more bs? Do we see Michael Kean flying around? Like?
Speaker 2: What do you hepe? The Keaton's in the end credit scene?
Speaker 1: I want a bureau.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go for a crazy prediction here. I'll say
that Craven shows up in this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I think about crazy.
Speaker 3: Promo moment, you know, set up the last Venom, which
is maybe gonna be their biggest one that they're hoping for,
kind of set up their next.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I forgot Craven that. I think you're right,
but I'm gonna go with it's a a a mentioned
or illusion. I don't think Craven himself will be in there.
But it'll be like in the news bag, something's happening
in Africa.
Speaker 3: He's looking for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I think you're right that there will
be an illusion to Craven. And like I said, I
I I do wonder what happens in a world of
Venom bombs and then because Craven's bombing everybody, like that's
that's happening, prepare, prepare for it. So like that's but yeah,
I think you're right. An illusion to Craven. Anybody else
I don't think so. I don't. I don't think Jared
Level is bopping around.
Speaker 3: Here web absolutely not.
Speaker 2: That's no.
Speaker 3: Even if they was, they would have scrubbed the tape
on that.
Speaker 1: And no Garfield, No Garfield, So no Garfield.
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree, I don't think anyone else is
is popping in here. I think it's gonna be pretty uh,
I mean, aside from obviously Lizard, which doesn't make any sense.
Doctor Connors.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you reminded me of the next thing I
was gonna ask.
Speaker 4: Right, there you go it.
Speaker 1: No, Kirkland has to go first.
Speaker 2: No, you can have it.
Speaker 1: Alright, So Kurkle, I'm gonna hit your both one well,
Spiderman uh or Sony Marvel Spider Verse character appear in
this and then two. We had talked about this about
a year ago. Remember that plot leak where Venom was
pound around with a young Peter Parker. And then remember
that first trailer had that young kid and he's predicting
that something asked, is that young Peter Parker?
Speaker 2: Is that young Peter Parker?
Speaker 1: Remember there's also rumors if you forget the plot that
Madam Webb was, the plot was more about protecting young
Peter Parker. But then because Venom three had young Peter Parker,
they scrapped that and it's only like a small portion
of the movie.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I think it's a terrible idea, but I think it might.
They might just go there. I trust Sony to do that. So, yeah,
that's Peter Parker right there. That's gonna be a little
pete with his barrow, and then.
Speaker 1: You can drink it. It's an alcoholic.
Speaker 2: Your previous question, I thought I kind of answered already,
I said Keaton. I said Keaton in the end credit
that credit. That was a little meme in But I
kind of want it to happen, just just for the
the fun of it. I hope it's like the exact
same like literally the exact same clip that it was
like splicing Hardy in there. Yeah, that was that made
this movie eight out of ten minimum. I would I
would have.
Speaker 1: I praise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they want my what's it called the little
the little quote on the poster of me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first known for those little quotes on posters.
Speaker 2: Great end credit. That's what I would say.
Speaker 1: The only way we're getting our quotes on posters if
we put them on our own. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Someone's got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't see a little Pete here?
Speaker 3: No little pets zero p.
Speaker 4: I think there's a chance you could see a little
Peter in here.
Speaker 2: Uh I rated.
Speaker 1: H.
Speaker 4: It depends though, because actually we've seen we know that
Morbius is in the same universe as this, but Madam
web is not right, do we know what?
Speaker 1: No? Oh right, they did say they they did say
that before Madim came out, that it was a solo film,
but that that was definitely not the plan. They definitely
changed that, but they said, yeah, that's nothing to do
with the other ones. So so it is.
Speaker 4: Like technically you could head Canada is being in the
same universe. I mean, you can you want, well, I
like to think of, but it's not. Yeah, So that
that's that being said. Then I feel like with Morbius
being attached to this universe, then we can see that
Morvius had Spider Man wanted posters or whatever in the background.
So that just makes you think that we already have
a Peter Parker in here.
Speaker 1: But well we didn't remember they edited those other movies.
Those are just some trailers. Fuck, yeah, there's been no.
Speaker 4: Spec Throw little Peter in here, then, God damn it, Sony.
Speaker 1: I think what they're gonna do is one of my
funniest moments I had in watching Madam Webb when uh,
whatever her name is, Madame Webb sitting down with Uncle Ben. He's, oh,
seeing this girl's pretty special, and they'll never they don't
ever say his aunt may right, And even then when
his mother, Peter's mother has little Peter Parker, they say, oh,
what are you gonna name them? And they cut away
and they're gonna do the same shit again, where like
they don't say it's Peter Parker, but they give you
enough that you know what's Peter Parker, to the point
where you're just like, just say it's fucking Peter Parker.
But they're like, oh it could be. It's like Todd
Phillips that like, oh he could have been the Joker,
could have been the guy inspired the Joe. It's that
type of shit where it's like, nah, pick a fucking lane.
And that's where I think they're gonna do the same
because they did that Madame Webb, where it's like, well, yeah,
I think that's I don't know, it's uncle Ben and
his sister in law is having a kid. I'm gonna
say this is fucking Peter Parker. Just say his name,
what like is it just for the dummies have to
be like, oh, I know it's Peter Parker. So I
think they're gonna do the same thing again where he
meets a kid. Maybe what's I don't know what the
long form name for may is, but it's gonna be
something like that, where he'll meet aunt may Well may
Day is his daughter. That's what Peter names his daughter.
Don't laugh to laugh, but I think it's gonna happen.
It'll be alluded to but not spoken.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 1: All right, Finally, I'm gonna put these two together because
the kind of work. What is the end credit? There's
two of them?
Speaker 3: There is two.
Speaker 1: That just confirmed there's two.
Speaker 4: You're right, I'm just loving so what you said. I'm
gonna put these two together and just thinking Tom holl
in a room where it takes zero and beer and
put these tugether.
Speaker 1: What do you think end credit? What happens in one
or two? And do we get any connection to the MCU.
So we talked about a couple of weeks ago, lots
of rumors going around heavy hot. Is there something official
like the last movie where he licks the TV like
all this guy and that's tasty, Like is it something
very specific?
Speaker 3: One is absolutely null related. I think maybe Noel appears
to be defeated in the movie in the football field. Yeah,
and then and then and then the post credit we're like,
you know, in a swimming pool and Noel is still
around or something like that. Why is his voice like
his cash? So I think one is definitely Noel related
in the way that we're maybe gonna insinuate that character
is still around or still alive, uh, or maybe an
impending attack or something like that. If if you guys,
Love and Elle is not really actually a big part
of the main thing. Yeah, something like that self, Pete.
I do think. I do think they're gonna try and
crack that door open to the MCU in some way.
Now I don't I feel like they are probably not
allowed by Figging Crew to do a lot that is.
I don't know where the rights would be on that
kind of thing. It's such a gray area, right, But
I think they're gonna try and crack that door open
in some way, like he discovers some sort of portal
or dimensional thing or some pathway back through that portal
he once had before. I think that's what it will be,
and that will be like the last stinger one, whereas
the null one will be like the first, like mid
credit one.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't mean I'll describe for the audio listeners.
I just forgot. We had this photo for the Ofutmen
two listeners. This I always think this is vandom. Three
is Randall Park creeping in on Yaya team the second
and that's Kevin Faggy. That's just the way to all
and the scribe and like, oh he's cracking that door open,
and uh yeah, I think we got I think Dyale's
round both it's no I think it's gonna be a
fan I was like, fine, I'll do it myself and
credit and then the second one will be Yeah, Tom
Hardy or the symbio teleport of the MCU. I don't think.
I don't think it's Holland. I don't think he's gonna
be in here. That would be a huge get for them,
because I guarantee you they just throw that over the
movie start to bomb, and they'd throw his scene all
over those fucking TV spots like you won't believe what
happened at the end of Venom, and it's like, well,
just fucking going tickt Vierau.
Speaker 2: Hold this Bireau sponsored.
Speaker 1: I do not like this narrative. The guy he's gonna
ship all week for it. I support the guy. He
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but you know what I gain, I will act.
Speaker 3: As if like it was. It's as if he invented
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Speaker 3: He just get in the marketplace.
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But yeah, I'll kirk Well, let's buy some. Let's crack
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Speaker 3: Him and see if he'll send us some and we'll
sponsor it on the on the live train.
Speaker 1: After this stream. Absolutely not, he's gonna He's gonna see
this episode now, you kid me, mate, But uh kirkling
MC you and credits. What's happening in Venom three?
Speaker 2: Michael Keaton, Like I already said he's gonna be there
bro recruiting Nuller or Venom Venom because because Eddie and
Venom will not be separating and they'll be together and
and I I do think it'll be something related, and
I do think it'll be something cracking into the MCU,
And I feel like Keaton could be like still that
in there. He's been in the MCU. You know, he
knows where that door is to get back in.
Speaker 1: I don't think he does know where that is. They
didn't establish how.
Speaker 3: But since Morebause he's been just flying around inventing portals
and ship I'm sure he's been trying to find his
way back. He was a great inventor, right.
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There's not even like links at the bottoms going on here.
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it's not quite green energy though. He's trying to get us.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I just got hit him with that. I
don't drink. Maybe I'll be the end. I'm like, don't
remember the podcast. Guys, I'm with your brother.
Speaker 3: You know you're meming on it just as much as
anyone else.
Speaker 2: Become the very keep bringing it back destroy you know.
Speaker 1: You're hanging me on. I'm fully supportive.
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about this guy's personal life, but I,
you know, support him on his journey. All I created
these bureaus.
Speaker 1: There is no day, no schlum, you know. So that's
why I trust That's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I trust her more than anyone else.
Speaker 4: Taylor, I think that we could probably get at least
just one post credits. I don't think we're getting too.
Speaker 1: No, it's confirmed too. It is confirmed to you missed
the part we're don't ask me.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about.
Speaker 2: Burros drink too many barrows?
Speaker 1: Yeah, before we why were you so offended about drinking
non alcoholic drink? Is like, oh, I'm too manly to
be drinking that.
Speaker 4: It's not manly or anything like that. I just it's
not manly when they when they have when they have
alternative beverages like that, I get curious, like what are
all the ingredients? I wonder like what is all in there?
What substitutions are in there?
Speaker 3: What's then in there?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I just get.
Speaker 1: Just sucking down like Monster energy drinks and you're worried
about Tom Malins.
Speaker 2: Not on outing.
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an energy drinking like I don't.
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go on, which is like literally, it takes just that's
why it tastes like ship, but it takes the healthy
stuff out of those drinks Androws.
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Tom tastes like ship.
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but there's no other information.
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that website. So you're just going in blind.
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for investors. They don't even have product.
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of the company.
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the license to sell.
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at home.
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Speaker 1: Like with Tom the Best. Damn all right, Taylor, I
get us that chat GPD going. Is it ready?
Speaker 4: Oh it's ready, all right?
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Speaker 4: Uh, I'm just adding this writing the ad break down.
It broke the four wall, broke the fourth wall. So
this is called Venom three into the Venom verse.
Speaker 3: Oh, always the goddamn versus. There you go.
Speaker 4: H that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all. There you go.
Speaker 4: So Eddie Brock is jolted awake by a familiar voice
in his head. Venom is grumbling about their recent return
to their universe. Eddie has flashes of Tom Hollan and
Spider Man swirling in his memory, and both Eddie and
Venom feel something is a miss. Their brief stay and another
dimension has changed things. And as much as Eddie wants
to return to normal life, at him crazee more excitement
we missed the fun that there are other weirdos out
there to fight Eddie. Venamin systs before Eddie can argue, yeah,
before Eddie can argue, with strange terr rips across the
sky from it swings Miles Morales, dazed and confused. Miles
explains that he's been pulled into Eddie's world by a
multiversal collapse caused by venoms crossing into another reality. Worse,
this disturbance has awakened Noulverene, who savage fusion of Wolverine
and Null.
Speaker 1: Ell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a real thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it is. I never read the
King of Black arc. I just love that they're gonna
jump Null to get to Neulverene.
Speaker 4: But Malverene, the dark god of symbiotes. Uh Nelverene is
hunting down symbiot Say Symbio, it's not symbio. It's like
they do in the movie. Uh noverre gonna send down
Simbilits across the multiverse, absorbing their power to become unstoppable.
Venom is his next target. Miles and Eddie reluctantly team up.
The banter between Eddie and Venam, providing moments of comic
relief as they make fun of miles youth and experience.
Speaker 1: Virgin only drink bureaus.
Speaker 2: You're doing it more than us.
Speaker 4: Things turn deadly serious when Olveren arrives. The brutal towering
Villain is a site to behold, covered in symbio tendrils
and sporting retractable adamantium claws. In the first battle, Venom
and Eddie are torn apart literally, with Venom barely able
to reform and shield Eddie from a killing blow. The
team retreats, but up before Venom manages to attach a
small part of himself onto Miles, creating a brief Venom
Miles hybrid, the result of stunning miles agility and Venom's
raw power merged with a sleek, terrifying version of Spider Man,
the Narrowlyest Cape Nolverene with the threat is far from over.
Act two is called Multiverse Versal Collision, as Eddie, Venom,
and Mauser group two more Spider Men crashing into Eddie's universe.
Toby Maguire's experienced whether Peter Parker and Andrew Garfield's sharp
witty version, the multiverse is continuing to unravel, and they
know it's only a matter of time before more chaos arrives.
The group forms an uneasy alliance and prepares for Noverene's
inevitable return, but their universe is another surprise in store.
A multiverse ripple draws in familiar faces from the MCU.
Doctor Strange arrives, drawn by the multiversal imbalance, warning that
Nolverene's destruction is just the tip of the iceberg. Strange
confirms that Gnull, the God of all Symbields, is stirring
and the multiverses in great danger. During a chaotic skirmish
with Nolvarene, things take a while turn. Novareen goes after
Doctors Strange, knowing the sorcer Supreme could seal the terrors
in reality, and in the midst of battle, Venom attaches
to Strange, creating Venoms Strange.
Speaker 1: This sounds great for Taylor.
Speaker 4: I like that a dark, menacing version of the sources
of Supreme with Venom's monstrous physique, Strange mystic arts, now
boosted by Venom strength, created dazzling combination of symbil powered magic,
black tendrils extending through the mystical portals. Venom Strange briefly
holds no Verina bay with conjured symbial weapons and spells,
but the fusion proves unstable and Strange manages to force
Venom off of him before it consumes his mind.
Speaker 1: So we aren't the Wolverine in this as well too.
When he separates from nol it sounds.
Speaker 4: Like yes, but we don't. Well it does, No actor?
Speaker 3: No actor?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Another desperate battle ensues when Andrew Garfields Spiderman jumps into
try and finish Nolverine, but he is tragically outmatched. Noel
Verene drives as I mention him clause deep into Garfield's chest,
leaving him mortally wounded.
Speaker 1: Who if they kill all Andrew Garfield's spire Man in
Venom three, that's the bigges? Like what check? Did he
get ridden to do that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man?
Speaker 4: His words final words are bittersweet, urging the others to
stick together before succumbing to his injuries. Garfield Spider Man dies,
leaving Miles devastating and the others shaken. That definitely strengthens
Nulverine as he absorbs garfield symbiote infused blood, growing even
more powerful. But in a surprise twist, Venom briefly bonds
with Toby Maguire's Spider Man next, creating an imposing, older,
grizzled Venom Spider Man hybrid. Toby's strength and experience are
amplified by Venom turning into a battle hard monster, dealing
devastating blow Snolverene, but the strain of the symbiod overwhelms
him and Venom detaches from just before Toby collapses, exhausted
but still standing. Act three, the final fight. As they regroup,
Doctor Strange locates a multiversal weapon hidden within Madame webb
sanctuary that can stalt Maulverine for good.
Speaker 1: There you go, Madam Webb making an appearance.
Speaker 2: It's in.
Speaker 4: The team heads to the heart of the Multiverse, a
fractured landscape where realities overlap and collide. Along the way,
they encounter our host of familiar faces, including Spider Gwen
and Spider Ham, who provide comedic relief amidst the growing tension.
Gwen briefly bonds.
Speaker 3: To a third act needs let's get some new characters
introduced who are just here to make jokes.
Speaker 4: Gwen briefly bonds with Venom herself. Oh yeah, slicking four
seconds ago.
Speaker 1: Bye, I'm Gwen.
Speaker 4: At the core of the multiverse. The final battle begins. Alverina,
fully transformed into a monster symbiote weapon hybrid, faces up
against the team. The fight is vicious. Toby Spider Man
sacrifices himself, using the last of his strengths to weaken Nolveren,
allowing the others toll in crucial blows. Miles Morales, who
has formed a strong bond with Eddie, makes the ultimate move.
Ven emerges with Miles again, this time for good, creating
the Venom Miles Hybrid. This new form is sleek, agile, terrifying,
blending Miles and visibility powers and Venom blast with Venom's
brute strength. An epic showdown, Venom Miles strikes no Verene
down using the multiversal weapons, destroying him once.
Speaker 3: And for all.
Speaker 4: And we have a post credits scene.
Speaker 1: So Miles gets the big win there in this movie.
They don't even talk about how he goes gets back
home either too.
Speaker 4: Oh, he still seems.
Speaker 2: Like he's stuck.
Speaker 4: There's his universe now, So for reference here for I
just wrote, write me a post credits scene with some
Marble MCU characters that are cameoing. Ah, get super crazy
with it. So it's titled Multiverse Madness is, with the
post credits scenes titled but the screen face black. Yeah.
Screen fades from black into swirling vortex of colors and
distorted realities. We see the Watcher observing the remains of
the collapse Multiverse battle from afar. His eyes col the
fuck this is long. His eyes glow deep with contemplation
as he whispers the multiverse has only just begun to unravel. Suddenly,
a tern reality crackles open behind him, and we're sucked
into a new reality, one that is bright and colorful,
but an eerie, cartoonish edge. The camera pans across a
futuristic city, where we see Howard the Duck, now dressed
to the full superhero cop. Remember this is a Venom movie,
leading a squad of misfit heroes through a Kadok battlefield.
He raises a tiny plasma rifle and shoots an unseen enemy, grumbling,
I told you we should have gone with the big guns.
Alongside Howard is Beta ray Bill, wielding his cosmic hammer.
Speaker 1: Fighting the lot to work with this movie. You know,
he's really taking that partnership seriously.
Speaker 3: He threw the more than a bone. He threw like
a whole skeale.
Speaker 4: You give us Vena will give you everything and under umbrella.
Uh leah, yeah, so throg. We shift again, this time
into universe, where Zombie Captain America is still in full
fighting form, bashing through the walls with his decayed bibranium shield.
He's locked in combat with a dark Supreme Iron Man
version of Tony Stark who merged with the I of Agamoto.
His armor is glowing with unstable mystic energy.
Speaker 3: His post credits are always just like another movie. This
is like what you've just described is like at least
fifteen minutes long. This is exactly it.
Speaker 4: Their fight is brutal, with Stark flinging cosmic spells and
zombies zombie caps, John nearly falling off as he bites
into the glowing energy from the conlet. In another reality,
Tear Captain Carter slams through a portal, her union Jack
shield glowing in the dim light of an apocalyptic wasteland.
She exchanges a knowing nod with a zombie cap, her
voice sharp. It's not over yet, But just as we
think we've seen enough, a series of wild crossovers begin.
This is your you said, make it crazy, make it crazy,
But I don't know what we going like this crazy?
A zombie covered groot, his tendrils writhing like venoms, crashing
through another rally. Wait, sorry, a zombie covered groot, zimbio
covered grout. Sorry, okay, okay, sorry all these words. Symbio
zombies battling with what seems to be a monstrous version
of Scarlet Witch, her face half shifted into a demonic
form with ketech maagic pulsating through a veins. Growed symbio
form towers over her. It's haunting growl and now with
deep guttural scream as he fights to maintaining control. In
the middle of the chaos, Deadpool person from yet another portal.
This time he's got two catanas made of pure vibranium,
wearing a symbio covered multiverse mashup suit that lends pieces
of his different hero costumes. Well, this is awkward, equip
surveying the madness around him. I thought my movie was insane,
but this is next level nuts.
Speaker 1: I think we said this before by hate when Chad
g t writ steadfour, it's just awful.
Speaker 4: But continue As the chaos unfolds to figure no.
Speaker 3: More characters Okay, we've been a limit here.
Speaker 4: I figure we've vainly seen, vaguely seen, yet steps through
the last portal, the.
Speaker 7: Conqueror, by who you can go to the sony We
have the tail end of this three hour long post.
Speaker 4: See his eyes glow with the eerie satisfaction as he
gazes the destruction and clashing time.
Speaker 3: Kind Of like an eerie satisfaction they never learn, he
muses darkly as he steps forward, planting us a part
of the swirling, broken multiverse.
Speaker 4: The camera pulls back as a shadow realities merge into
a bizarre, fragmented world, with Howard the Dark firing his gun,
battery Bill calling down cosmic storms Onbecap battling Supreme arm
Man and Simul Group grappling with dark demonic Scarlet Witch,
all while Deadpool chats with an oblivious Kang. Then suddenly
I swear I did not do this. This is just
fucking great. Though. A hand reaches out from the void.
One we recognize, but we haven't seen a long time
ghost Rider, his fiery skull burning. I told you what
I wrote, and I did not say put ghost Rider
in here, his fiery skull burning with hellish fury, emerges
from the shadows and his flaming motorcycle. He looks around
the madness, flicks his chain, and simply says, looks like.
Speaker 2: It's time for a real reckon.
Speaker 4: The Watcher's voice echoes as the camera zooms out. Infinite realities,
endless possibilities, but not all of them are meant to survive.
Title Card will return?
Speaker 1: What if? This is? It's an episode of what if?
Speaker 2: And then he woke up up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy?
Speaker 2: That was Would that be better?
Speaker 4: Would you guys prefer that over what we're getting the movie?
Speaker 1: That might make some people go see it with that
success there, but uh yeah no, I don't. I don't
want that. So speaking of don't want that, that was
the what happened this past couple of weekends, joker, you
guys thoughts on before we get some trailers we did,
their predictions were alluded to. We're like, oh, yeah, and
that's it's not gonna be as bad as Marbles or
aw Command Wall were. We were right. It was wasn't
as bad. It was worse. Yeah, So yeah, it had
a camera with the opening, we can end up being
like thirty seven million the original's close. It's I can't
remember where it is. I got all my facts off
right now, but it's it's I think it's like, oh crap,
I'll find it after. But either way, it was like
thirty I think it's like seventy seventy five somewhere in there.
So thirty seven not a good start. And then it
beat the Marvels this past weekend for the worst drop
in comic book history with eighty one percent, making an
a measly seven million dollars this weekend. And it's second weekend,
which is kind of crazy. You got Lady Gaga Oscar
in a movie success, you know, the first one, big
time success was the biggest bread our movie until dead
Pool Wolverene came out, and this kind of happened. So
I got two things to ask for you guys, because
I tell us a bit on trust. So I got like,
cause I don't have too much more to say other
than what I go to say based on your opinions. One,
just your thoughts on this. And then two I pulled
up in trust told you And since twenty nineteen, DC's
had seven movies that have like disappointed, underwhelmer, just bombed.
There's three I didn't count I didn't count The Man
because I just damn's on his own thing. And I
didn't count too Side Squad in One Room in two
because those came out den in the middle of COVID.
They're also in Warner so it's like, yeah, we don't
know what those would have done, right, But like these
other movies were like in a like since Joker. The
Last Joker was like their last like big, big hit,
and it's just it. I find it very curious, Like
what's gonna happen next July with Superman because you know
the confirmed day Crypto's gonna be in Superman. So if
you like dogs, hey, you know Superman's dog's gonna be
in there. So hopefully that I'll get some people, you know,
just like NOL, right, Kirkland, But.
Speaker 2: My parents love NOL and they love dogs, so they'll
be there.
Speaker 1: Good. I can't wait to see them rocking those Nool
shirts next time I see. Oh yeah, get them out
for Christmas.
Speaker 2: Oh you know you know they already have it. Yeah,
it's too late.
Speaker 1: What do you make this mess, Kirkland?
Speaker 2: What do I make of this mess? I'm I'm curious.
I wish I could peer into the little magic mirror
and just see what this would have done comparatively to
if it wasn't a musical. Like I know, reviews weren't
great going into it, and some people that I was
talking to, just like at work for example, that I
feel like they like comic book movies, but they're not
like super into the like they're not following all of them.
They were like telling me they're like, oh, man, Joker too,
It's gonna bomb, Like it's gonna be it's gonna be
doing terrible and like that was just the vibe I
was getting from some more you know, non podcast people,
some people that are a little bit more general general audience.
And uh I was still kind of, I guess optimistic
because of just the numbers of what the first one
did and because Lady Gaga and just how shocking that
first film was. So this is like really surprising to
me actually, like the numbers, I maybe didn't think it
was gonna do the first like the same numbers as
the first, but to be at the drastic drop off
level that it is, that that's very surprising to me.
And uh, yeah, I wish I could just see the
multiverse of of like even if it's the same quality
of a film, but just it's not a musical, like
if that shifts a lot of people's interest in actually
seeing the movie. I know a lot of people choose
to avoid a movie if it's a musical, like they
just really don't like them. And I don't think the
musical aspect is like what broke this movie. It's not
my favorite part or like, you know, maybe I wish,
maybe I wish it wasn't. I I love seeing Lady
Gaga perform, but just for the overall story, I don't
think it really make make or breaked the maketh the movie,
make it or breakth the movie? So yeah, surprising, and uh,
I don't know, was there part.
Speaker 1: B of that kind the future of just you know BC. Yeah,
that's like now it's like I feel like even in
the years we talk about BVS and Suicide Squad, like
all those movies, it's like the venom thing, right, those
are making tons of money, like close to billions of dollars.
Right now is the case where it's like it's not
even though they arguably might have had some like better
like quality ones and some of those movies back.
Speaker 2: Then, but I I I don't think it's like real,
like alarm bells are going off right now, at least
for like my perception of DC. Maybe maybe I don't know,
maybe that's the common talk of the town right now,
but I think people should just settle down. It is
early still in like the gun rain of and uh
and what's Buddy's name that I forget the partner there
you go, Peter Big Pete.
Speaker 1: Their project has their first project comes out in December,
Creature Commandos, which I don't know if will be a
newscast next week, but there is a New York Comic
Con this weekend, so they James is gonna be there,
So people are kind of hoping there's gonna be a
Superman teaser. I don't think so. But because they did
release a photo of him and Crypto and they already
got the assembly cut like there were that thing's like
gonna hit its state like it's going good.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that maybe this just is putting
more like focus on on DC and their upcoming film.
So that being said, I think there's a lot of
pressure on the Superman release. I think that's the big,
big one that although I don't think alarm bell should
be going off right now, if that bombs is like
I don't know, six out of ten, like sixty percent
of on Tomatoes, Like, I think that's a big concern
because that this is like the first this is their
poster boy, right Superman. It's like it's like their biggest
ip next to Batman. So I really think that one
needs to hit out the gate.
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, because
I'm sure some people may argue I have some arguments,
but like, do you think this is the most important
release for combook movie? Not like quality, but just for
like the direction of a studio, even just in our.
Speaker 2: Podcast now, like not considering like retrospective, like thinking like yeah,
like in the timeline of movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know someone might be like, oh, it
might be like Infinity War or Angy, But I think
even if those movies sucked, they were gonna make money,
maybe not the money they made. The only one I
really feel like is and yeah, not retrospect, because you
can't look at Dark Knight and they like, oh, look
at what it did. Like I don't think people are like, fuck,
if Dark Knight bombs, it's over for bad, Like I
don't think it was that the only one I think
maybe was like Avengers at the time, like if that
didn't work, maybe that was, oh shit, then all our
plans are gone. But like, I don't think the studio.
I can't remember last of my directors had this much
pressure on because I guarantee you that whole company is
breathing down that guy's fucking neck to like this has
to this has to be a hit. It's like there's
no way of center. But it's like that's what sucks.
It's like, oh, you can't make a good movie and
try to make a Profit's like, no, this has to
be like a fucking winner. And as we've seen, like
you can't guarantee that he had stuff like Indiana Jones
last year losing three hundred dollars. That's a good not
too bad, like three hundred million. Like there's massive ips
like Mission Impossible that just don't do well just randomly.
You know. It's like, now you're gonna tell us that
Superman suppos to come out and be a big hit.
Speaker 2: It's like, I think I would agree with that statement
then that this is like the most kind of important
release I guess someone's yeah, especially like you bringing up,
the Confitio War Endgame. It's interesting just thinking back to
that era because it like no one really believed that
those could fail because it was just like everything was
the banger, it was ramping up, everything was just going
so well, and we're in like the golden there, Like
you couldn't see it going wrong, even on the DC side, right,
Like that was around when Wonder Woman, uh, Aquaman, like
those were like billion dollar films, maybe not ten out
of ten movies, but like across the board, I think
a lot of people still really enjoyed those, so it
just you couldn't really see it as a failure. Whereas
now we're in like this rougher patch whereas uh like
of course the Phase four stuff that happened with the MCU,
but on the DC side, like we've already talked about
some of these these titles that are underperforming, then definitely,
I think with all that being said, I would agree
with that statement that.
Speaker 1: This is the most pressure the definition of too big
to fail, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's that's interesting. Thinking about the importance of it makes
me maybe we're like I in the fact that going
into this, I feel like James Gunn in the team
James Gunn Saffron of the team. Have they announced so
much before they did anything, before they even broke ground,
They announced like ten projects and then like added five
or six more. I feel like over the over the years,
and it's like, I don't know, maybe that is a
good strategy in terms of getting people hyped and getting
people invested in those first projects because you want to
invest in it because there's gonna be this future to it.
But I also feel like, man, there's so much potential
there for like a huge disappointment for a ton of
people if this movie does bomb, and we like if
if a couple of Marvel movies bomb. We're in a
position where Disney has so much money that it doesn't
really matter, and it will matter at some point, but
it doesn't matter yet. But DC and Warner Bros. Are
like constantly on the ropes. Like it feels like any
time they finally like get back in the fight a
little bit, they just get knocked out again. So it
just feels like the margin is so much lower. And
then so as you mentioned, that's where the pressure comes in.
So that's that's something that I've I've been thinking about.
It's just like Man, if they announced all these things
and none of it happens, and you know, even Marvel
has announced things that maybe won't happen or to be canceled.
It's hard to remember all that kind of stuff. It
happens all the time. But to the extent that they
announced things and got people hyped and doing all these
slates and whatnot, We'll see what happens there. But yeah,
I mean I think that with Superman, like they're probably
gonna go pretty hard on the marketing. But you know,
if you increase your marketing budget, buy an insane amount,
and then that makes it the movie has to do
that much better. I do think it is an uphill
battle in the sense that the cast for it are
not known people. And you know, look at Joker, that
is known people. It's Oscar winners, it's people who have
played this role before in a very successful way. So
that doesn't necessarily sell a movie either, but I think
for something like Superman it could, especially if people are
still reeling off wanting Henry cavill. I don't know if
that's the case for the general audience or if that's
just the hardcore DC fanboys, But yeah, I mean I
don't know what else there's there's to say about the
Joker bomb. It's insane, like totally unprecedented the amount that
it is bombing. We'll see if it picks up, but
like these things don't typically pick up later on. You know,
there was a Morbius meme. They put it back in theaters,
but still no one give a shit, and.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be streaming in fourteen days, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly right, So it's like they've almost it's like they're
already like planning the funeral, you know, at this way.
So it's crazy. But like, at the same time, I
don't think the marketing was good for the movie. I
don't think it's a movie that needed to happen at
all based on what the first movie was, and you know,
maybe they had a bit of an angle for it,
but like I feel like I'm a perfect example of
this where I am like exactly the kind of person
who should have been extremely excited for that movie, and
I do a podcast where you review movies and I
still just didn't even want to see it And I
just bought my ticke for Venoms And what does that
say for the state of like where DC's at and
what they did a joker here. So yeah, it's it's there.
It's a very precarious situation. I hope for their sake
that Superman does very well, or at least well enough.
It doesn't. I hope it doesn't bother I guess at
this point, I hope that makes like a profit, even
if that profit's only like one hundred million or something,
because yeah, I do want all the DC fans to
get to be able to see out this vision that
Gun and the team have been planning. Uh So hopefully
we can get there. I mean, I don't know if
Creature commandos. Hopefully it's one of those things where it's okay,
low investment, low risk, low situation, and it's more of
like a soft launch for the brand than anything. So yeah,
Superman's obviously the main testing ground there.
Speaker 1: I look at that as like a like a prelog
or a prelude, not a prelog. I put epilogue, I put,
I put the words together. Yeah, like kind of like
a oh, here's what the world's kind of like and
a Dalton ass. I thought Gun said he wasn't announcing
anything without script. No, nothing's going into production without a script.
So he's announced these things. He didn't even say this
thing announced a million things.
Speaker 3: I don't want. I don't know what that stent is.
Speaker 1: Now he's only announced that first light. All that other
stuff that's come out is nothing. They they've confirmed.
Speaker 3: But that's like it was like, what ten twelve things.
Speaker 1: I think it was eight. I think it was eight.
I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: Round up to ten.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it could be ten twelve, could be ten twelve.
But no, no, no, it's fair enough. Still, there's still enough.
But yeah, you got Command was out December, Superman's on July,
and then both Supergirl and Green Lantern or just Lantern. Sorry,
they're shooting in January. So those first those first four
things that they talked about, those things are they're happening.
But yeah, they said they're not gonna go on a production.
Speaker 3: Even the Bolt is further down the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for that one, I think is gonna shuffle a little.
I think they're still figuring out all that.
Speaker 3: Just feels like one you kind of expedite, but I
mean I know they all they obviously Batman two is
happening so.
Speaker 1: Well, sough, and when Penguin's doing well, I think I
think there just might be a feeling of like, well,
do we even fuck with the Batman stuff and just
let them do their bat like and then you can
always put the Batman in a cinemic universe. And it's
like my feeling with Wolverine and X Men, right, like
you don't want to lead with them at any point
you can bring them in. It's like a shaw of
adrenaline and be like, oh manx Wolverine's in the X Men.
Now this is hype, Like I think I don't think
they would, but I think it'd be really bold and
who knows that. Maybe what would help is if a
Superman is just a mega hit, you could go like, okay,
maybe we do a Justic movie without Batman. We don't
need him right now. We can just keep passing doing
his thing. Don't mess with that. Penguin's doing like great numbers,
Like that's I think it's tricky with all this stuff.
And Ree He's like, yeah, we got into the show
happening and then we got the trilogy. It's like that's
a long, Like that's that's a that's a good amount
of time. And I guess you could have a Batman
at the same time. We've never done that, right, I
do want to see that experiment, but maybe they also
feel after Joker they want to be less risky. I
don't know, so mm yeah, Tey, what about you run
us off here?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: I I think that you already highlighted this, uh, the
fact that this is gonna be the superms, gonna be
the first movie that's kind of under the gun umbrella.
So I think that that's. Yeah, that's nice because that
means yet Joker Too has no real implication or effect
on that. It does affect the brand in the company,
but it does affect James Gunn and what he's going
to be moving forward with because for him, it's like,
well that movie was that was greenlit before he came
into the picture, and it's just that's its own entity.
It's whatever. So I I I'd be inclined to see
like what the GA thinks, Like do they know, like, oh,
these movies are not all connected and the same thing,
like the same universe, Like when they see the Penguin Show,
do they think like, oh, well, this is this like
Joker or fully Jovid, Lady Gaga, same world or whatever.
It's all Batman, right, Like, I just wonder what the
limit is and the line that's drawn when it comes
to the GA looking at this kind of stuff because
when Superman comes out and I think it's been it's
it's good that they're leading with Superman because it's been
it's been a good minute. I mean, we've seen, obviously
Henry Cavill appear in other projects, but yeah, twenty thirteen
being his movie, but Henry cavi appears.
Speaker 1: Last time I led with a DC to start the
or Superman to start the universe.
Speaker 4: You know, so yeah, like over well over a decade,
and the last time he appeared obviously is Black Adam,
which is recent but not everyone's gonna make that, not
gonna click with that. When they think Superman, they're thinking
Reeve and they're thinking of the Man of Steel movie.
I would put Man of Steel before Batman versus Superman
because that one, like it's it's a fun movie. But
I think people still the gay would gravitate, Oh yeah,
the Man of Steel movie, Kevin Costner and YadA, yaha, YadA.
So when you look at this being kind of like
a leading film for them to kind of introduce while
we've got so much other stuff going on, you guys,
highlighted already, we got Penguin and Batman's they can kind
of like just step off of that for a little
bit and they can just focus on a character we've
not had for a while, especially with Supergirl too. Like
when I saw that photo of like Crypto and Crypto,
right is his name the dog? Okay Crypto, and then
seeing Superman, like it just maybe it's because we're going
through our Superman retro, but I got big Reeve vibes
looking at that, and I just thought, like, Okay, there's
definitely an energy here that he's gonna be the gun
is gonna be pursuing. And so I think this movie
is gonna do really, really well. I think it's gonna
like a hair of my mouth, good lord, got it?
Uh yeah, I I it's unfortunate that Joker has perform poorly,
especially for my draft pick, but at the.
Speaker 3: End of the day, on your list, it was his
number one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's costed me.
Speaker 1: It was this number one top draft pick, top seed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, three Timer done, two timer my borderlands down here,
I'm with you down there with Joker.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna when we have U when we have to
do our next draft and Gon look I think that
has I'm not trying to clown on any too, but
I think that has.
Speaker 4: Been lowest done.
Speaker 1: No, like it would be like the lowest number one
draft pick. Ever, I don't think like I feel like
we're no for like the number one.
Speaker 2: Pick, your number one Kirkland definitely.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like all the movies we take in
the past, usually one and two, like they usually do
relatively well, even if they under performance, not like, oh
it's a bomb, so I'll have to look, but I
see what the closest was. But I saw that, I
was like, oh, I knew somebody had it, but at
the number one Spottom, Hey, that could have been me
if it if it changed order, because I think we
all thought, okay, it's maybe not gonna do it, but
it could. It's the I think you were a second
so I think you had had My first.
Speaker 4: Pick was Deadpoolverine and then you snaked it, you lucky
son of a gun. But yeah, no, it's at the
end of the day, like I was optimistic for Joker
Too to be a little bit a little bit better,
but I was going in a little bit excited too
because it was a musical. But yeah, it's just the
sheer drop off that it's had just blew my mind.
When you guys are dropping like the articles of just
like yeah, oh it's going to digital now and stuff.
I'm thinking like, man, that is crazy. And I just
feel like, Okay, it's the faster, it's on digital, faster,
it's out of theaters the faster. It's not going to
be in the limelight anymore, and we can just move
on to the next project like we already have, Like
gun dropped the the Superman photo and you said Travis
Comic Con. So I feel like their publicity is just
gonna be growing hard for James Gunn's umbrella.
Speaker 1: Well, and I don't think it's an accident that the
Monday after the first Joker Weekend, the Monday after is
when they confirmed the Green Lantern castings. I don't think
that's a mistake at all. I think they just want
that good press, like what do we have that we
can confirm and get people knock to talk about this,
because that then yeah, sure it's not James Gun's movie,
but still technically, if it's DC Studios and you and
Peter are the president, you adopted those you know those projects, right,
So it's like because at the same time, even if
let's say Todd philis fucked off said hey, I'm not
gonna do another Joker and this made a billion rate,
like then it's like, oh, well that's money, more money
we can play with. That's a more success. But now
it's coming from another thing. Maybe the I guess maybe
I could see the the The Devil's Advocate way that
maybe James Gunn looks at this and he's like, hey,
the bar is super low, and it's like, even if
you can just hit like a five hundred million every movie,
it's like, yeah, well we'll take that, you know, because
like The Batman almost eight hundred million, so like it
did very well. But again, I says in trastally, I
put there's millions of people around the world when you
talking about the GA and what they know, like millions
of people don't know where Batman is. Batman is just
a character. They don't know he's in DC was just
like probably a little more now because that movie happened,
but still like they they don't know. The Batman is
above all. I don't care what peop want to say
about Superman. He's above those characters and Spidey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Frans end everything.
Speaker 1: Spidy's the exact same way.
Speaker 3: Random question, how much how much do you think Walking
Phoenix made for Joker too? Like, oh, his individual paycheck.
Speaker 1: I think it's out there. I think it's at least
fifteen million. I think something close. I think I think
it's something like I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: I think it's like Marlon Brando numbers.
Speaker 3: It is because I was looking at the budgets, Like
the first Joker budget fifty million, the second one is
two hundred million, so they spent four times as much
money to make it, which makes sense. Just I would
have thought Walking and Todd would have made a lot
more money just for those two alone.
Speaker 1: He got twenty million, and then I'm pretty sure that
I got twelve, and then oh no, sorry, so him
and Todd both got twenty and then Gaga got twelve.
So right there, that's not fifty two million.
Speaker 3: Seen the movie. But man, how come the budget is
that much higher? Then?
Speaker 1: But you gotta think about that. The first Joker costs
fifty five million. The budget for Todd, Phillips and Gaga's
that's the budget of the first movie already, like just
their salaries, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, so then you spend one hundred thousand, they still
spent four times as much. Like it's insane, Like I
I haven't seen it, but like is it is? It
is the scale, like there's some.
Speaker 1: Big sets, there's like there's some big musical pieces and everything.
Speaker 3: I feel like that alone is a big issue, even
if they expected it to be a huge movie. Yeah,
that seems like they got way too much money to
make that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And the ending has some like bigger stuff. But yeah,
I again, even if this movie does what it does
now where.
Speaker 3: It's lock at him in the movie with the rock
and that's of course, yeah he jokers fifty million just
for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like that's is the funny thing though, Like
if you were to keep this one at fifty five million,
even if this like under reforms and there's like two
hundred million, it's like, well you probably still make a
little bit back, you know. But at then they do
they care the three that got those pay days, It's like,
well you're gonna pay no matter what. Right, It's like
they're not take like they're not taking Walking Phoenix is
twenty million.
Speaker 3: Imagine they're out now like they they I don't think they'd.
Speaker 1: Yeah anything, No, they wouldn't. I don't think one wants that.
The rumors were that the Todd Phillips didn't really want
to work with them, and I don't think I don't
want to work with them either. I just feel like.
Speaker 3: Vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I said this untrist told you, like
what what what? What notes is right now? You granted
could say like, yeah, Philip should listen to some notes
that James gunna game. But it's like Todd Phillis directed
a billion dollar movie, biggest rad army meal time in
one multiple oscars. It's like, and he's gonna come listen
to like the Guardians guy, which no disrespect that, but
I'm just saying like that's probably they look at great movie. Yeah,
well that's it. I guess that that's probably official. The
end for the Joker talk. Maybe maybe there might be
some talk come Golden Geeks for a few.
Speaker 3: It's done, dude, Do I need to see it for
Golden Geeks?
Speaker 1: The performance is still good, that's the thing. So I
do you.
Speaker 3: Guys even cares?
Speaker 4: Are you?
Speaker 3: Are you so fired up about those performances that you're like,
I gotta have them.
Speaker 1: I have to attend you to see the top fives,
but for both male and female as right now, I say, yes,
they're in there, but I'm not saying it's like they're
the winner picks. So I got to see a list.
So but you might not have to watch if it's
not someone's recommend in others three of us, so you
get worst case if it does get nominated, watch it
after the factor.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be an irresponsible podcast or you know, so.
Speaker 1: We'll know, but you can watch it after the vote, right,
So yeah, all right, let's take our final break and
then we'll talk about some trailers. We'll beat it right
back and we are back. So uh sorry, Clay, No,
he asked us to watch The Order about half an
hour and we did not watch the The Order trailer.
So maybe on the next the next doc get there.
But I will put this in because of to the beginning.
Don't and ask for a Patreon question, which you can't
do at any year, sending question for newscasts if we're
still planning on renting a theater and watching Lord of
the Rings for our tenure, which he says he's currently
rewatching Lord of the Rings and then listening to our retro,
so I forgot that we planned that. I would say,
I'm not opposed, but at the same time, it's more
of a lesser because me and Kirklam just did that
last year, because I think that was the idea before.
It's like, oh, i'd like because you know, i'd only
seen them in the original runs, but then they did
extended But yeah, me and Kirklam just did this in
the summer. So I'm not saying oppose to Lord of
the Rings. But it's also very hard to schedule all
our lives.
Speaker 4: So it's also very expensive to rent a theater. Here
is it?
Speaker 1: He's like dirt Sheep right after COVID. That's when they're
just like giving them away. What's the ballpark nowadays? Yeah?
What's the ballpark today?
Speaker 4: That I could be totally wrong what I was looking
at it last year it was a few hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: What's a few hundred bucks? Like, well, that's not that
much if you rented and get like a fear of friends, Like.
Speaker 4: I don't know what time like time constraint that falls
under either if it's like okay, that's just for one.
Speaker 1: Movie, two movies, so let me see here.
Speaker 3: That's not too bad. If you get a squad of people,
charge everyone charger, you get a squad.
Speaker 4: To get Yes, definitely, but I was thinking, like it
was just us four, and then we have like three
hundred box.
Speaker 1: Four we bring our friends four. Yeah, like even if
it was just us, there's.
Speaker 3: Like the patrons, you know, fly out to Klona, come
join us. Yeah, bring your money though a thousand dollars
to fly out to Klona, stay for the theater.
Speaker 1: US four and our significant others. That cost three hundred dollars.
It would cost thirty seven dollars, so not that much.
Speaker 3: Well, try, you have many kids, you have to charge
every one of those.
Speaker 1: They can't pay. That's that's just that just puts up
my bill. This doesn't help me out, help you guys out,
you know. Yeah, but uh no, I don't think it's
on the dock. I think we got lots of stuff
for the ten year, but uh you know, maybe maybe
I think one thing.
Speaker 3: To spend our funds wisely here geek, I don't know
if we can do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one day I would be down for
I don't having the ten year, but I think it'd
be down for us to put a day aside and
watch the whole like, do a contract of the whole
trilogy together. Pick a day we started like eight am,
watch the whole thing together.
Speaker 2: I think maybe the October day. So then you started
like seven, I don't know, seven twenty seven in the morning,
and then exactly like I think it's I don't know,
nine thirty in the morning. Gandal says, it's not like
you got a time.
Speaker 1: Like exactly sure, Why is that have to be October?
Speaker 2: That's what he says.
Speaker 1: October the third, Yeah, nine third.
Speaker 3: Of October and Middle Earth. I don't even know that.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2: They got Wednesdays, they got Sundays, they got all the days.
Speaker 1: I think lots of memes would be born out of
a twelve or Lord of the Rings watch long stream
and that would be.
Speaker 2: It's a battle. I've done it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: It's stay to fight it. I'm right to five. Yeah,
that's a yearly thing. Here is how Christmas. Once it
gets cold, out close the doors, throwing the shire. You know,
so your door is normally open all time, and the
way it's fucking freezing. So yeah, maybe they will do
that and then you guys can watch along with us,
you know, that's the thing. You can be in the chat.
We can all start up together. So but I'm glad
you're enjoying those. Those are some good episodes, the Lord
of the Rings.
Speaker 2: One, so no hobbits on that marathon, though.
Speaker 4: I do exist you.
Speaker 3: We did all the animated ones too. We did everything.
Speaker 1: So we got some trailers, a mix of a couple
of weeks old this week, et cetera, not for aw too,
from the world of John Wick, Ballerina Companion the Monkey,
and dur number two. Who wants to start us off
with their thoughts on all these trailers.
Speaker 3: I will kick it off by saying that Ballerina looks awesome.
I I am very excited for that. I feel like
I should have been, but I I'm not a huge
John Wicky guy. Of course, really enjoyed the most recent one,
but I am an an Arms fan, and I don't know,
I just I just thought just this trailer was really fun.
I it was funny. I felt like the first half
of the trailer she didn't say a single word. I'm like, okay,
they go on, John Wick wrote here she doesn't really
speak a whole lot, and it's more of just like
you know that that visible like face acting going on,
but not a lot of words, and then she's talking
a lot in the second half. I think I was
also surprised at how much Keanu appears to be in
this trailer. Now, I don't how much he'll be in
the full on movie and screen time wise, but I
don't know everything about this. Like, the vibes looked really good,
so I'm I'm into it. I'm officially sold.
Speaker 1: Who do you thinks is more screen time? K is
in this or K I feel like kill?
Speaker 3: So even if I'm my four to five minutes for
Nola's correct, I think I think Keanu could be in
here for a good good sequencer three. So that's pretty exciting.
Excited for that one. Nos Forraut too. I think this
was another great trailer. This is a good different trailers overall.
I really enjoyed all these. I think, uh nos frau
to I. I just think the vibes of it. The
visuals look really great. This ininematography, uh you know, down
to like the color, the colored palettes and things like this.
I think it looks really interesting. Who is the main
actress in.
Speaker 1: This Lily Rose Depp, Giant Dep's daughter.
Speaker 3: Right, because I saw on IMDb like she's in it,
and then Emma Corn who from Deadpool Wolverine played but like,
I don't know if I saw Emma Corn in this trailer.
Speaker 1: I think they're at the door at one point. I
think there's a knock on the door.
Speaker 3: They were like the first billion on IMDb, So I'm like,
is that the main person? But I just don't recognize
their face super well yet.
Speaker 1: I think they're rocking some old timy hair, but I
think or no, I think they might be run crazy air.
But I did see them in the trailer actually pause,
freeze frame them.
Speaker 3: But okay, but yeah, I mean this this cast in
general is you know, really good at Aaron Taylor Johnson's
in there, Bill Scars guard, Nicholas Holt his second vampire
movie in a year, right, Ryan Field came out earlier
this year, I think, Right, So that's ye, did it?
Was it last year?
Speaker 2: Mike Go?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think tried to make some coln
geek stuff happen.
Speaker 3: And I believe the guy who plays the girl Night
is in this as well, So you're just you just
got like and defoe of course, so like the cast
is insane so I'm very excited for that. I mean,
once again, the release date is absolutely savage. I mean,
there is some snow going on in this, so maybe
that's the vibe they're going for, is the more cozy
winter energy. But I feel like maybe you could have
released it earlier in December rather than Christmas Day. I
don't think a lot of people are gonna be ditching
their family to go get their vampire on, so we'll
see how that goes for them. But I will check
it out at some point. Companion, my god, I already
forget what's going on in Companion. You got you got
a couple of people in there, and she's in a
chair with handcuffs, so it's pretty mysterious. This is definitely
a wait and see in terms of see the discord
impressions of this one when people have watched it. But
there's interesting elements to it. Okay, cool, So.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking they're probably Deadpool Wolverine aesthetic. Yeah, they're probably
playing a former victim of nos raw to I okaymash
and and I did love when I pulled Like oh yeah, look,
so you see YouTube videos they have this like most
you know, the most replayed moments everything like that. Of course,
the most replayed moment is when Lily rose depth somehow
she's getting railed by nos Ratu like like literally, of
course it's all like this sex stuff, but she's on
her knees like that's that's the most replaying.
Speaker 2: When you just contributed to it.
Speaker 1: You just contributed when I pulled up, when I pulled
it up and I saw him like, oh, I bet
that's the her moon and everything slope.
Speaker 3: As soon as that line climbs a little bit, then
everyone else starts clicking on them because they want to
see what other people are clicking on. And then it's
a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speaker 4: If I did not know that was the most replayed option,
I thought, it's only what you need a certain amount
of views.
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, it's a trigger.
Speaker 4: Interesting.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna see that on a geek for a
YouTube video. Sorry maybe one day, well never video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll never know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Banging yeah, day after tomorrow it and then yes you
replaced mom uh and then and then monkey. This is
a crazy, crazy movie. It had final destination energy less
well it is pretty cheesy still, it's it's final destination
with like a little bit of a different tone, and
I'm into it, just like crazy, strange deaths occurring, not
taking itself too seriously. So I think it looked like
a lot of fun. I'm I, I don't know if
I'm gonna get my uh tushy in the theater for it,
but I'll definitely watch it at some point in the future.
So overall, this is a This is a great slated trailers.
I think my ranking for the great Mattie SAgs, I'm
gonna give it Valleria number one, as Fratu number two,
Monkey number three, Companion number four. But I I really
liked all these trailers.
Speaker 1: He didn't watch the jur number two?
Speaker 3: Did you juror number two? Yeah, that in the list
of things, wasn't not the list initially?
Speaker 1: Never mind, don't need to rank it.
Speaker 3: So my fault, your fault will never know.
Speaker 1: I guess fa he edited the document.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, yeah, I liked all these trailers except for
maybe one, which that one might have been Companion.
Speaker 2: It just felt like a lot for a teaser trailer.
I don't know, I felt like I got a lot
of the whole movie. I'm used to these teaser trailers
being like a really quick something and then we have
no idea what it is, and then it's just like.
Speaker 3: These Days is just the first full trailer.
Speaker 1: It's like two. And I also want to think. I
want to ponder somebody currently he said, you got the
whole movie? What is the movie?
Speaker 2: Then the whole movie the beat? Maybe you don't get
the whole movie, but I feel like I got. I
got shots of like like the beginning, the middle, the end,
the for like just every like every little slice in there.
I feel like, if I really wanted to, I could
just sit there and like piece together what's gonna happen.
I feel like there's shots in there that they might
be big moments, and like I don't know that there's
a scene where a lady is kicking down a window,
and then later on there's a scene that would be
the scene before that because a gentleman breaks the window,
because when she's kicking the window, it's already broken. Like,
it just seems like there's a lot in there. I
don't know. I don't even remember Strange Darling, but yeah,
I don't know. It looks like an interesting flick, but uh,
I gotta turned off a little bit from the from
the teaser there, Ballerina, I'm extremely hyped on here. I'm
just Yaga's in there, my gosh, Andada Armas is in there,
My gosh. This is gonna be It's gonna be a
fun flick. Did anybody watch the The Continental that was
called absolutely Yeah, you tried.
Speaker 4: I didn't even play it. I tried to like get
to it and said, I'm not going there.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even navigate to it.
Speaker 2: On That's very fair. But Ballerina, I will be there.
Unlike the sentence it's Continental. I don't know why I
try and say centennial. I got Gentani in my mind,
we got no SPERAATEI man, Robert Eggers, I feel like
I feel like I don't love all of his movies,
but I certainly appreciate them, and it's a certain vibe
and this is just this is the Robert Eggers vibe
going on. Especially you get some snow in there, willem
to foe looking crazy. I love the cast. I'm very
much looking forward to this film. My family doesn't go
out to the movies unfortunately for Christmas, but I'm very
much looking forward to watching this with my my pot
it's gonna be a good one. We watched The Witch
together for the first time. We watched Northman together for
the first time, so I feel like we're kind of
on this. Robert Eggers the World. She came with us
to Northman and she probably could have stayed home for
that when she did not enjoy that one.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, talking about the Witch, people, if
you want to vote for a Halloween retrospective, go and
vote now, because the Witch is one of those options
on the Halloween retrospective. So lots of good options on there.
Speaker 3: What are the options? I didn't even know this was
a thing.
Speaker 2: It's just the Witch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Witches, the Witch and Companion, the Witch,
Ella Enchanted the Witch to afflicted bloodfests, Galaxy of Tear,
Green Room Spree in Visile Man from nineteen thirty three,
the last horror movie, The Witch and Watcher. And I'm
not gonna say which one's winning to sway the votes
or whatnot.
Speaker 4: But where is going to be on there?
Speaker 3: Where did these movies come from?
Speaker 1: We do this over you're here till it's on the calendar.
It's a the Halloween. We do an annual Halloween retrospective
and the patrons they threw, they throw a movie and
then the producers get to vote.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, that makes sense. I just didn't. I didn't
even know that had started. So I'm surprised by all.
Speaker 1: This because it's we're close.
Speaker 3: Have we mentioned this live on a podcast for Never
the polt.
Speaker 1: Swin Live this week? So I think I've mentioned that
the Halloween retro movie. I think I mentioned on Agatha
Tay might build back in, but I think I.
Speaker 3: Mentioned there you go, There you go.
Speaker 1: I I just do plugs just on Agatha now specifically, So, Kirk,
did you rank those two?
Speaker 2: I don't think I finished the mall.
Speaker 1: Actually one more.
Speaker 2: Oh the Monkeys. This was This was really intriguing. It
It looks like it's gonna be gory and pretty gross,
but I was very intrigued with just the mystery of
what was going on it. It reminded me of I
feel like a movie that I'd seen before, but I
can't really remember the station. So I never saw a
final destination. Maybe the first one, but no, a different.
Speaker 3: Different that retrospective. One day when we were really dwindling, Taylor.
Speaker 1: Coming out too. Taylor will be all on board on
that one.
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, I've not seen all of them.
Speaker 2: I remember Tanning bad one. Is that the first?
Speaker 4: That's what the later ones?
Speaker 2: Oh? Interesting, okay, so maybe I didn't that.
Speaker 3: Number three, that's the Vancouver filmed on Vancouver.
Speaker 2: Maybe I was in that one. Who knows.
Speaker 3: There was a scene in that It was filmed like
a block from my house.
Speaker 2: Oh crazy? Is it scary you watching that scene now?
Speaker 3: It scares me a little bit when I drive up
that street and I think about the fact that there
was a huge van that barreled down and smashed into
someone's car.
Speaker 2: It's gonna come back there before Kirkland get on, I
know on the list that'll be uh, I mean, I
gotta watch it, right, it's gonna be before Halloween. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's like the Halloween movie.
Speaker 1: It's so you just know what I'm dressing up ass, So.
Speaker 2: You're dressing up his long legs?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I am?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Are you serious?
Speaker 1: I am?
Speaker 2: That's exciting. I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 1: Not exciting even watch it.
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm I'm excited to see the movie now,
and I'm excited to see you. In order of hype,
starting at my least hyped, I'll say Companion and then
it's just bangers, so I guess Monkey, and then Alert
and Farado probably in that in that order, Ado would
be the big number one. That's Christmas gift that I
won't be opening on Christmas Day, but I think it
will be a good one. So yeah, nice, I'll go.
Speaker 1: We'll leave tear lasks. He never know what takes he's
gonna have. Yeah, Ballerita looks good enough. I'm interested because
that movie got reshot to shit and luckily I think
they said the test scores are like doing better. But yeah,
they just said the guys that trek did the original
genre come in and did like two to three months
of shooting. So yeah, I'm just wondering how much that
movie costs now, But obviously I don't care about that costs.
I'd like more and it armist though, That's what I
mean though, right, I'd like this to continue. And because
Bobby Aga is dead, you know, spoils but whatever or
is he I don't know, So yeah, no, I'm looking
forward enough to this, I I don't. I think what's
holding me back from my excitement is we saw her
do this in No Time to Die, and she had
a much more excitable character there where I feel like
they're just giving her the stone. I worry they're gonna
strip a lot of her charisma away from the character
just to be will be like john Wick, but a
female version of Ballerina, because I don't see much personality
from her in this. And what sucks is I know
she can do that. I don't think it's like, oh,
she's bad here. I think it's just that the way
they've ritten the character john Wick and Keana that works
because it's like, that's just like a vibe Keana has
right you're watching, because it's Keanu on an armist. I
watched for performances, so with No Time to Die she
did all the gunplay, the gun fu, everything like that.
But then she had like this very cool, bubbly character,
very good comedic beat. But this just looks like she's
kind of a stonewall killer. So that that's my worry
is just it's it's gonna feel like john Wick light
and I don't want it to. I'm finally being in
the john Wick world. That's cool to call. Now all
you got Lance Riddikins, last role you got Ian McShane,
like they're they're This trailer is definitely hidden the geo overhead. Also,
this is the worst title ever, the fact that it's
not even after the fact technically the movie is called
from the World of John Wick Ballerina, like when you
pull it up on Adam and everywhere you go it
is from the world. It's not even like Rogue one,
a Star Wars story. It's not even Ballerina a John
Wick story from the It's that's what's first. It's fucking
mind boggling. Me already ranted about this one after nine.
But so yeah, I'm excited, but I'm still this one
won't be one that I'm fully in until I see
it because I still think, yeah, okay, maybe the test
scores are doing better, but I don't know. We'll see
a companion. Yeah, I'm excited. I like I saw did
you ever see the Boogeyman that came out? Yeah, So
she's the leader Sophie that. She's also in that Hairtic
movie that's coming up, She's in a couple other things.
She's got a good agent and she's in a bunch
of stuff. I really like Jack Quad as well. I
think he's gonna be like a big deal in the
next couple of years. I just think keeps making a
lot of good choices. And I think, as you can
see if you watch him and scream, he has like
lots of layers. He's not just the nice guy that
he plays like Huey and the boys. He can do
a lot of things. So there's something about this where
I just feel I got like heightened ex makin a
sort of vibe going on. And I guess, I mean,
I see what Kirka and You're going for, Like there's
a lot of big scenes, but I think that the
layout is gonna be quite a bit different. I feel
like I still have no idea what's going on other
than like, I don't know, there's there's ideas of you know,
sci fi stuff. You can see there's some robot stuff
going on, but there's other actors in here. I joy,
So I don't know. I feel like it could be
a sleeper, or could be when we never talk about again,
who knows the monkey. It's funny because Clay put this
in the discord where he said it looks completely different
than long legs. For me, that was not a pro.
And I'm curious because so After Long Legs, I started
to watch all of Osgod Perkins work, and I've watched
all his films with one. He has a Handsol and
Gretel movie which I can't find anywhere in any streaming service,
so I have to wait or find a way at
some point. But all, even like Long Legs, there's like
some humor in it, But all his movies are very
very dry and very dark and very serious. Like it's
one of those movies where you don't, especially some of
his early work, you don't catch a fucking breath. So
it was odd to me that this one was kind
of like evoking like dark comedy vibes. And I'm not
saying he can't do that, but it's also the thing
of like I wonder if that's what people are gonna want.
I don't think it's the same as like Joker right,
billion dollar movie. But when you're preaving Osgood Perkins after
Long Legs, I don't think of like, oh, a dark
comedic director. I thought of like, oh, we're gonna get
another very scary trying to be scary whatever you think
of the movie, like something very dire and serious. So
I'm hoping it's oi pivots and does something good and not. Oh,
A lot of people are disappointed because they saw the
Long Legs director, and now this is like a you know.
Speaker 3: Because you must have filmed this before Long Legs came out, right,
you know.
Speaker 1: I think that I actually don't know. They were very
close together, that's all I know. They were very and
I think he has one more picture with Neon as
well after this, so see, and good for him, he's working,
he's got like the movie like and smart for them
to get this movie out as soon as possible in
a sense, like get that hype. But also I just
think like for me, I enjoyed the trailer enough, but
like Long Legs had like that huge marketing campaign where
this just kind of felt like a this could be
like a streaming movie to me. I don't know. I
just didn't feel the same hootspa like I did with
nos Ratu, which, oh man, this is the movie I'm
most bitter about that. I'll be like miss there, like
I said, I'll have to some point sneak away late
at night and see it once the twins are here
he's asleep. But uh yeah, I can't fucking wait. I
love everything. I love the scale of this movie. I
love that they're still not showing offs Fratu, They're still
not showing off phil Scar's guard and we know, like
penny Wise and other stuff, this guy's gonna fucking kill it,
like when that guy's on screen. I actually not just
because the YouTube video the sex stuff is one predictable
because like that was me, yeah, that was yeah, just
because like in all of Robert Egger's work other than
really The Witch, the Witch is pretty light on it.
But like Northman, obviously Lighthouse sex is a big thing.
And even stuff like Brahmschroker's Dracula, like there's some very vampire,
beastly type of sex stuff, Like vampires are always, whether
it's Twilight or old School, always have some sort of
like sexual vibes, right if you see it. And just
even though what's interesting is like you look at Osparatu,
they're clearly making him like a beastly like character, right,
not like a swave like you know, passing or even
Gary Oldman from Bromstrokers track, Like it's it's like the
fact that I had this woman on her knees talking
to her, I'm assuming her husband being like you can't
make love to me like he did. And this is
a fucking vampire guy. I'm very curious to see what
they do with that, and it all willlmed to fall
looks good. I can't wait. This is easily I think
my most anticipated movie, probably next to an Aura right now.
Like the rest of the year going on, I have
a high bar for an o Faratu here. It could
easily disappoint because I'm with Kirkhla where like I appreciate
The light House, I don't even know if I love
the Lighthouse, especially with our group. Of course we've me
did to death, but I feel like that's not a movie.
I'm like, oh, I got you rewatched it not fully.
I think one time I tried and then I fell asleep, so.
Speaker 2: I joyed it a lot less on a second viewing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think that's just the movie or because
you were in theaters.
Speaker 2: Or I think I appreciate it, but it's just like
the subject matter, it's just Yeah, I'm not really in
a mood for this, you know. It's it's it's a
rare mood to be in.
Speaker 1: Where North I rewatched and I was good on that.
That's still late at the time.
Speaker 2: I feel like the whole idea. What that movie is, though,
is more intriguing for rewatch. Like The Witch, I feel
like it's not really a feel good movie by any means,
but it's still halloweeny, so like it, it makes more
sense to rewatch that. Whereas I'm not really at sea,
you know, so I'm not really seeking out a big
lighthouse viewing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I would go Ballerina, Monkey, Companion, and
nots Raw to the floors.
Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, I watched the Battleina trailer and thought,
holy fuck, this is great. I'm there for it. I
can't wait. It's gonna be an absolute banger of a
time just to be back in that world. I'm still
riding up john Wick four hype. I cannot wait seeing
the Bad Rider too. I'm still riding that hype. I'm
going up the stairs still uh Notsprat is looking pretty
damn awesome. I love you know, vampires. I'm still riding
that high with Salem's Lot and Abigail. Oh man, It's
it's the time for vampires right now. So I'm there
for it. Uh Companion. Now, I'm trying to remember what
the title said, like, uh Companion, it said from the
creator's notebook or like something like the notebook it's from
the studio of the Studio, which was funny because it
starts off very romantic and kind of setting up this tone,
and then it drops that notebook and I thought, oh.
Speaker 1: To his said before that though from the producers of
the Barbarian.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes, I thought you're gonna catch I did
see that that I caught my eye. So that's a.
Speaker 3: Very fun back to back like that does set the scene.
Speaker 4: Well, both of those really made me think, Okay, like
maybe this is one that I I won't watch the
trailer for. I'll leave it as is and I won't
even mention it to Madison. Then we'll just go like
do a day and I go to the theater and
just see what we're in for, because that's kind of
what Barbarian ended up being. And but after like watching
through the trailer, like I'm I don't know, like it
didn't captivate me a lot. It just seems like it's
it's it's it seems random. But I know there's a
story in there, and I gotta watch to figure out
what that story is. But I'm just not sure what
to expect, especially how it ended on that final scene
of like Quaid's character just sitting up her hand and
it's just like burning and she's just crying, like, well,
what is going on in this? Like I'm trying to
really figure it out, But the trailer maybe that just
means it's a good trailer because you don't fully know
what's going on. So that's It's something I'm gonna keep
my eyes open on and just try and just yeah,
we'll just keep my eyes on it. The Monkey. I
love long Legs. I think that's a great movie. And
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I did
not get Found of Destination vibes, but it's interesting how
you guys see that. You guys in retrospect, I can
see where that kind of fits. Uh, But I'm just
I thought this was gonna be more of like a
supernatural thing. When I saw the run veiling for this,
I thought, Oh, this toy monkey is just gonna have
some spirit attached to it that kills you. And I'm
probably I'm assuming that's still gonna be kind of in
line with that. But when you guys stay Found with Destination,
you're making.
Speaker 3: Those nations pretty supernatural.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I would is that not realistic?
Speaker 4: Like I I we were phrased that when I saw
this with like the monkey, I wouldn't go full on
like a chucky kind of snare an Annabelle. Maybe more
like in a ligne with like an Annabelle, where like
you have like a demon attached to this where it's
found this detination is just like you're fighting. I don't
know fate. I would say it's supernatural, but I.
Speaker 1: Would think a demon is also a sushi nat supernatural
you guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I'd say, like it's different context between
the Found Deestination and an Annabelle where it's like.
Speaker 3: I think for me, the Found Destination vibes are more
than just people dying crazy ways.
Speaker 1: My real world activities were like, oh, a toaster fell
on this guy's head.
Speaker 4: It's not like and that's what this the Monkey is
supposed to be like people just dying.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's what it looks like a trailer
To me, it looked like.
Speaker 3: You have to ask mister Osgooe himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or Stephen King. It looked like a not that
I've seen anything other than the North American version, but
similar to like a death note. We write something down
some bad happs. That person seems like that monkey is
you know, the definitely yeah supernatural found destination conduit.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I can see that. Then I'm not sure
if I'll be rushing to theaters right away to see
this one like I did with Long Legs, but it's
something I will put in my back pocket for another
another day. Uh during number two, I mean I did.
When I was looking at the the notes on the
episode title, I saw that you slid that in there.
I was like, oh, I miss this. I'm not godding
I'm not gonna get caught red handed here unprepared. So
I did watch it.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Interesting though, I'll just quickly say that it's it's got
a cool concept and it's just it's it feels like
it's gonna, Yeah, it's gonna be an uncomfortable movie, but
hopefully he has like a good ending to it. But
it just seems like it's gonna have a really wholesome
storyline with Holt's character.
Speaker 3: Kind of like think of, like, man, what the heck
is this guy doing?
Speaker 1: He's got a big six months you think about this
he got uh he goes not fraught to the winter
Jury number two I think comes out November, which is
directed by Clint Eastwood, so it could be Academy Award
movie for him. And then he says Superman July with
Lex Luthor, so he's he's he's got.
Speaker 2: A good stringer just coming for him next year.
Speaker 1: Lex Luthor wins, Yeah, no, yeah. During number two. I
love that tray. I can't fucking wait, Clint. He's not
like hit or Miss, but there's some movies like I
don't absolutely love, but when he's on fire. He can
be on fire for even an eighty nine year old director.
And I love that concept of drunk driver hit something
thinks it's just an animal. Years later it gets called
to a jury to court case that's about the person
he hit, and he's like putting it all together and
hole like trailer.
Speaker 2: Actually, damn, it's a good trailer. Yeah, yeah, it's intriguing.
Speaker 4: As far as my ranking goes, I would go Ballerina
a Sprat to Jury number two Companion then monkey.
Speaker 1: There we go. Well, LeJean, we have done it. Thank
you very much. We'll be back. Who knows. I don't know.
We don't have another newscast on the books, but if
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