WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.839 It's night Side with Dan Ray from. 2 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:08.839 Radio. Okay, those of us who have worked in the 3 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:14.199 news media come across bizarre stories, uh and the pairly 4 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.800 normal bizarre stories. Some of them are easy to understand. 5 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:23.199 I remember, you know, one of the oftentimes bizarre stories 6 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:26.600 of tragic stories. Obviously, I remember covering the UH station 7 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:31.800 nightclub fire down in Rhode Island. One hundred people burned 8 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:35.560 to death. This small nightclub went up in flames, and 9 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:39.479 people stampeded for the doors, and with the crush of people, 10 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.280 people couldn't get out, and one hundred people died. Plane 11 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:48.159 crashes all sorts of you know, stories that that just 12 00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:53.719 make no sense. I mean, clearly, the crash in earlier 13 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:57.840 this year over the Potomac, the plane coming into Washington, 14 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:02.079 d C. Colliding with the military's a helicopter. We won't 15 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.600 know for sure, but it looks to me like the 16 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:06.640 military helicopter was about one hundred or so feet higher 17 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.799 than they should have been. But the story that I'm 18 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.040 about to tell you, if you haven't heard it, is 19 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:21.640 extremely bizarre, extremely bizarre. So let me try to keep 20 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:25.079 it straight because there's a lot of details that frankly 21 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:33.400 had not been filled in However, in Waterbury, Connecticut, there's 22 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.640 a street. I guess it's called Blake Street. Side Street. 23 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:39.599 I guess. I'm not sure if it's a main thoroughfare. 24 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.280 The only thing I know about Waterbury, Connecticut was it 25 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.040 was the home of the birthplace of Jimmy Pierce All 26 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:47.760 Great Red Sox center Field, a number thirty seven in 27 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.879 the nineteen fifties, played alongside played between Ted Williams and 28 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.879 Jackie Jensen. So Waterbury, Connecticut, nice city in Connecticut, Connecticut, 29 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:00.799 lovely state. I think it's called the makes Steak if 30 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.680 I'm not mistake in the insurance state or whatever I miss. 31 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.879 I get my state nicknames mixed up every once in 32 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.599 a while. But it's a it's a it's a lovely area. 33 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.879 It's it's a Northeastern state. It is it's considered probably 34 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.840 one of the states with the highest educational levels of people. 35 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:26.120 The home of Yale. Other great schools, Trinity College outside 36 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:30.719 of Hartford, as well as Yale. US Coast Guard Academy 37 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:35.879 is down down in Groton. Wesleyan is great schools. It's 38 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.439 just it's a. It's a it's a wonderful, wonderful state. 39 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:48.960 So the story goes that on February seventeenth, which obviously 40 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:54.120 three days after Valentine's Day. It's a Monday, it's a holiday, 41 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:58.800 and at that night, fire alarm comes in on a 42 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:02.759 house on Blake Street. Get there. There's a woman fifty 43 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.560 two years of age. She is out on the street. 44 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.840 Her name is Kimberly Sullivan. She looks a lot older 45 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.120 than fifty two years of age, but she's fifty two. 46 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.080 And the fire apparatus is there trying to save the house, 47 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.599 and she's holding looks like a pet dog, and she's 48 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:23.400 telling the firefighters that her step son is inside the house. 49 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.560 And I think she was concerned about some cats as well. 50 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:31.840 But they were asking is there anyone any any adults? Yes, 51 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:37.319 my step son. Well, the firefighters somehow, some way, we're 52 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.840 able to rescue the steps on. He's thirty two years 53 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:47.680 he's currently thirty two years old. But upon closer review 54 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:53.120 they find out because the thirty two year old admits 55 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:56.479 he set the fire, he'd been held captive in a 56 00:03:56.520 --> 00:04:01.400 single room for twenty years by his and his stepmother. 57 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:07.319 According to a police warrant, the man had told police 58 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:13.479 that he's been confined since he was eleven years old. Now, 59 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.040 it would appear to me that he must have been 60 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:21.360 born sometime, and I'm going to guess nineteen ninety three, 61 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.560 I guess would be the way to kind of do 62 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.199 the math. It depends upon what month. But let's say 63 00:04:26.279 --> 00:04:31.600 nineteen thirty, nineteen ninety three. So when he's eleven, it 64 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.519 would have been two thousand and four, George Bush still 65 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:38.720 would have been president, George Bush forty three in his 66 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.759 first term. In his first term. And the story that 67 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:47.240 this young man told who when he was saved from 68 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:53.240 the fire, that he admitted he started, it's five point nine, 69 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:58.160 but he weighs sixty eight pounds. That means that I 70 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:03.160 guess his body fat content or his BMI. Yeah, his 71 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:08.040 body mass index. You know, a healthy body mass index 72 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.600 is probably really you know, an athlete is probably eighteen. 73 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:18.199 If you're really an excellent shape, body mass index of 74 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:23.720 twenty is good. This guy's body mass index was about eleven. 75 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.000 I guess if your body mass index is thirteen, and 76 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:31.399 you get your body mass index by dividing your height 77 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:37.839 by your weist. This he was he looked, they said, 78 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:41.920 like someone coming out of a concentration camp. The story 79 00:05:41.959 --> 00:05:44.839 that he told is bizarre, It's bizarre for a number 80 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:48.240 of reasons. It's bizarre. It's bizarre that his neighbors. He 81 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:50.800 lived in this one room, which was eight feet by 82 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:55.000 nine feet, locked in the room by his stepmother. According 83 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.120 to the media reports that I have read, she's now 84 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.240 been arraigned on a number of char charges kid including 85 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:07.199 kidnapping and child abuse. Now he's thirty two, so he's 86 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.639 older than a child. Obviously, she was held on three 87 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:15.800 hundred thousand dollars bail. She made bail. She made bail 88 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:24.279 on Thursday the thirteenth. So now no one on the well, 89 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:26.600 no one on the street knew that this guy was 90 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.079 still living in the house. People who were longtime residents 91 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.240 remember seeing him working in the yard with his father, 92 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:37.680 like maybe ten years ago or fifteen years ago. The 93 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:45.360 father just passed away. His biological mother apparently. And I 94 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:48.560 do not know anything about this, whether or not she 95 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:54.160 was a surrogate mother, or whether she was a woman 96 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:56.879 who gave up a child for adoption, or a teenager 97 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:02.360 who gave up a child for adoption. She was quoted 98 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.079 and rob, I get some soundbites here. I want you 99 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.360 to begin to play. She was quoted as saying that 100 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:14.000 somehow her sister heard about this news story which has 101 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:18.800 been percolating in Connecticut now for days, for weeks actually, 102 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.360 and that was the first she had heard. She'd been 103 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:26.519 looking for her son. I don't know the circumstances which 104 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:29.959 caused her to lose contact with her son cut twenty. 105 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.680 Please Rob, this is the mother, the biological mother of 106 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:33.480 this young man. 107 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:38.680 She could written, Hell, my sister actually called me while 108 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:44.879 I was at work and she had stated that we found. 109 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:49.040 We found them. 110 00:07:49.319 --> 00:07:50.519 So just St'm battlement. 111 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:56.839 How can anybody treat somebody like that? So apparently when 112 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.800 she refers to that this young man was held in 113 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.000 activity for his entire life, but certainly for the last 114 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.120 twenty years, living in a room, I guess he would 115 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:11.360 come downstairs every morning and get two sandwiches, which was 116 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:14.040 his food for the day, and two small cups of 117 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:17.480 water and go back to the room. Now why he 118 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.600 didn't try to make a run for it. The mother 119 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.639 who was the stepmother who has been arrested and now 120 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:28.560 is being held on bail. She doesn't look very well either. 121 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:31.519 She looks like a tough fifty two, if you get 122 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.360 what I'm saying, And she doesn't seem to be someone 123 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:36.159 who would have been able to physically restrain him if 124 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:41.200 he tried to make a run for it. This is 125 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.519 such a bizarre story. I mean, that's the only way 126 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:51.080 to describe this. Now. The Waterbury, Connecticut Police Chief Fernando Spagnola, 127 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:57.360 talked about his condition at at a press conference a 128 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.919 few days ago. This is cut number twenty six. Please 129 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:01.039 rob twenty six. 130 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.240 There's an adult that was five foot nine and sixty 131 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:09.840 eight pounds. You know, there's some apparent orthopedic issues. You know, 132 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:12.960 the room was very small. That room did have exterior 133 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.000 locks on it, in a number of different styles of 134 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:19.200 exterior locks, as was explained during an interview with the victim. 135 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:23.559 Throughout the years, it appeared that the locks increased in 136 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:29.240 security levels as time progressed. Information was very guarded on 137 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:32.480 what was released. And you know, when he was able 138 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.320 to see other members of the family and other members 139 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:35.960 of the community. 140 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.480 Yeah, and one of the TV stations down there was 141 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:47.679 the NBC affiliate spoke with the former principle of his 142 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:52.799 elementary school. This young man who was held in captivity 143 00:09:53.759 --> 00:10:00.080 apparently did begin a public school, but he would have 144 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:07.279 been in the first grade, I guess, and somehow, some way. 145 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:11.720 The parents at one point had made some complaint to 146 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:16.639 the school. Some children in the school had talked to 147 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:21.679 the principal down there and said, there's something wrong with 148 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:26.200 this kid. Somehow, some way, there was a guess, a 149 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:33.399 couple of home visits made to his home in the nineties. 150 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:38.840 When people they have I guess they're called the Department 151 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.840 of Children in Families. An article that will be in 152 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.200 The Globe tomorrow morning, written by Travis Anderson and Claire 153 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:48.519 Thornton of the Globe, staffs that are representative of the 154 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:51.399 Department of Children and Families in Connecticut told The Globe 155 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.840 Wednesday that the agency has been unable to locate any 156 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.080 records pertending to the family, but that a search for 157 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:01.039 any information is ongoing. The severe in duration of the 158 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.120 alleged abuse and how it remained hidden has stunned the region, 159 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:08.639 and recent court records provided Harrying new details of the 160 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:13.559 man's alleged captivity. Authorities have not released his name to 161 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:18.519 protect his privacy, but guess what. The school principle was 162 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:23.840 found by the local television affiliate down there, the local 163 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:28.840 NBC television affiliate, and I have misplaced the paper here 164 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.360 for a second, Rob, But the teacher, the school principal 165 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.559 did speak with local newspaper. I will find that sound 166 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.120 bite his the SoundBite that he gave. Didn't you have 167 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:44.840 that one there? Please play that one? 168 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:45.080 Rob? 169 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:47.279 His name is, his name is Thomas Panone. 170 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:51.639 We knew it, we reported it. Not a damn thing 171 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:55.679 was done. That's that's the tragedy of the whole thing. 172 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.000 Everyone really was concerned with this child since he was 173 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.639 five year so you knew something was wrong. 174 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:02.960 It was grossly wrong. 175 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:06.399 You don't disappear off the face of the earth at 176 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:11.600 ten years old. Sorry, we couldn't do more, because you 177 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:13.600 went through more than any of us ever will go 178 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.120 thward our lives. 179 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:19.360 Well, that's great. Sorry, we couldn't do more. Sorry, we 180 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:23.600 couldn't do more. There's so many lessons to be learned here. 181 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:25.320 I just want to open up the phone lines. If 182 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:27.559 you know about the story and you want to add something, 183 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.559 that's fine. If you have questions, I'll try to answer them. 184 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:34.039 What does this say about our relationship with our neighbors? 185 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.080 There were news stories I've seen with the neighbors said 186 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.679 we had no idea this kid lived there. I mean, 187 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:47.559 was there any interaction in that community. Fourth of July, Christmas, Halloween, whatever, Thanksgiving. 188 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:50.240 Did anybody ever go over to the house? I don't know. 189 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:53.399 I've seen pictures of the house. Obviously it had a fire, 190 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:57.480 it wasn't destroyed. It looked like a particularly great neighborhood, 191 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:01.080 but it looked like a fairly normal house. Two five, four, 192 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:04.120 ten thirty six, one seven nine three, one ten thirty. 193 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:07.039 If you know about the story, feel free to add 194 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:11.360 anything that I've omitted. But how can this happen in America? 195 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:14.519 How can it happen in the state of Connecticut, the 196 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:20.600 state of Yale, and you know education and wow, this 197 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.200 this boggles my mind. I know that this bad stuff 198 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.639 that goes on, but for bad stuff to go on 199 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:29.840 like this to a kid who just has the mistake 200 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:33.799 of being born into a bad set of circumstances. All 201 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.759 the money we paid for social services, where are his 202 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:40.879 social services? Back on Night's Side right after the break. 203 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:44.440 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 204 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.639 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 205 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.559 Now, I'm sure some of you think, well, Dan's telling 206 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.639 a story and they don't believe this, But this is 207 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.639 a true story out of Connecticut, and it is out 208 00:13:55.639 --> 00:14:01.799 of Connecticut in the last the last few days. So 209 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:07.960 again the victim discovered. On February seventeenth, Waterbury Police officers, 210 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:11.799 along with the Waterbury Fire Department, responded to a report 211 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:14.720 of an active fire at eight forty two in the evening. 212 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:19.759 By the way, I miss aged his step mom. She's 213 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:22.720 fifty six. She still looks like there'll be a tough 214 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.000 fifty six, let me put it like that. So she's evacuated. 215 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.759 The male occupant, who was in the house longer. This 216 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:32.799 thirty two year old son, suffered smoking elation and exposure 217 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:36.480 to the fire, had to be assisted from the house. 218 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:40.759 As his understandable he'd been locked in a room. He 219 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:43.759 further alleged he had been held captive by Sullivan since 220 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:49.200 he was approximately eleven years old. Now, apparently his father, 221 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:55.039 his biological father, died in twenty twenty four January, about 222 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:59.799 a year ago. That's according to the Waterbury Police chief. 223 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:02.159 You know there was a biological father. The father was 224 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:07.000 wheelchair bound from some sort of medical condition. The victim's 225 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.159 biological mother, who you heard from earlier in this half hour, 226 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.080 apparently has not been involved in his life since he 227 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.919 was about two years old. Now I'm gonna make a 228 00:15:17.039 --> 00:15:21.320 huge leap here that the biological mother and the father 229 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.519 at some point had this child. Whether they were married 230 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:31.600 or not doesn't really matter at this point, because whether 231 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.039 the father took the child away or the mother didn't 232 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:38.200 particularly care, it doesn't matter. The father ends up with 233 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.720 the child when he's two, which again we're guestimating a 234 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:47.039 sometime around nineteen ninety five. He then marries. I assume 235 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:51.559 he marries the fifty six year old Kimberly Sullivan at 236 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:58.799 this point, and that's how she becomes the step mother. Okay. Now, 237 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:06.279 the the lawyer for Sullivan, the woman here who's the 238 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:10.639 one who is charged with this abuse, has said, oh, no, 239 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:17.080 she did. She did great, she took care of him 240 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:22.960 and all of this. The police chief was quoted as saying, 241 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:25.000 thirty three years in law enforcement, this is the worst 242 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:29.159 treatment of humanity that I've ever witnessed. She's arraigned in court, 243 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.600 had a bond of three hundred thousand dollars. She's now 244 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:33.480 expected to be placed in the custom of the Connecicut 245 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.360 Department of Correction while she awaits trial. Kimberly Sullivan refused 246 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.279 to talk to police almost immediately, but does not have 247 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:42.879 any prior criminal history. Yeah, she just stayed in the 248 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:48.039 house with this kid for twenty years. Look, there's got 249 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.799 to be some mental health issues involved here, maybe all around. 250 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:56.799 But my question is, how is it that in a 251 00:16:56.840 --> 00:17:01.120 neighborhood and I don't know Waterbury, Connecticut, as I say, 252 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.160 other than the birthplace of Red Sox in the field 253 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:12.400 did Jimmy piersoll many years ago? But this me and child. 254 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:19.000 I'm looking at the mugshot of the mother. She's fifty six. 255 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:24.640 She looks presentable. She looks a rough fifty six, but 256 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:29.319 she's presentable. How did she survive? What did she do 257 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.079 for a living? I mean this, I just can't wait 258 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.119 till we get some of the details. Did she have 259 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:39.920 a job? Who? I assume that she inherited the house 260 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:43.640 from her husband when he died a year ago. Did 261 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:48.440 he leave her instructions? Apparently this kid for twenty years, 262 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.720 not only for the year in which the stepmother was 263 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:57.680 the only adult in the house. The father, the biological father, 264 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:01.400 had been there for this kids the entirety of this 265 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:05.960 kid's life. Look, this kid apparently had seen hadn't seen 266 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:13.680 a dentist, hadn't seen a doctor. Uh, how does this happen. 267 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:19.000 How does this happen in a place like Connecticut, one 268 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:24.079 of the you know, one of the more adviced states 269 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:30.160 in America. Uh. Again, it's just unbelievable. Look, what I 270 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:31.440 want to do is I want to give you a 271 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:34.559 chance to if you, if if you've heard about this case, 272 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:38.119 h feel free to offer your opinion. 273 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:38.920 Uh. 274 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:42.720 I think it's an It's an indictment obviously of this family, 275 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.160 which was dysfunctional, but it's also an indictment of government. Okay, 276 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:49.839 it's an indictment of government, and it's also I think 277 00:18:49.880 --> 00:18:52.720 an indictment of the people that live in that community. 278 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:57.720 How could they not know that something was amiss. They 279 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:01.440 probably did not know what was going on inside the 280 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:05.079 home because this kid apparently hadn't been out in twenty years. 281 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:09.839 So I get it. We don't care about our neighbors 282 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.640 as much as we used to in this country, and 283 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:16.920 even in a place like Connecticut. But what does it 284 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:23.039 say about us as a society within no charitable organizations 285 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:29.920 in that community, no churches, no temples, no synagogues, no 286 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:38.319 outreach from anyone. I'm assuming that the house probably has 287 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:41.880 it looks okay now, but I'm sure it's fallen into 288 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:46.839 disrepair over the years. What does this say that this 289 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:51.720 can happen and this young man now thirty two years old, 290 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:56.039 he will never be right? Okay, I mean this kid 291 00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:58.759 will be This guy will be taking care of for 292 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:01.559 the rest of his life by so society. But the 293 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:06.240 time when society had the greatest obligation to him was 294 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.119 as a child, as a student in a in an 295 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.759 elementary school. That just stopped. Don't they have truant officers? 296 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:17.880 Aren't these social workers? This is Connecticut. If you're in Connecticut, 297 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:19.880 you know about the story, feel free. You wanted to 298 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.519 defend your state. I'm not attacking the state. I'm just 299 00:20:22.519 --> 00:20:25.680 saying I think it's it. It says a lot about 300 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:30.920 our society. If you lived on that street, how would 301 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.240 you feel at this point? How would you feel knowing 302 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:37.480 that this went on under your nose? You lived your life, 303 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.400 You walked and drove past that house a thousand times, 304 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.119 maybe five thousand times, and you never seem to notice 305 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.400 and say what's going on there? Six seven, two, five, 306 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:51.720 four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. 307 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.920 Have we lost what we once had in this country 308 00:20:55.240 --> 00:20:59.279 as a society where we actually at least knew our neighbors, 309 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.079 maybe even cared for our neighbors. We're coming back on 310 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:05.279 Nightside right after the news. I hope to hear from 311 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:07.519 as many of you as possible. And if you think 312 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.559 that I am being overly critical, or if you think 313 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.839 I'm being naive, feel free. This one hit me hard. 314 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.559 I mean, this kid did nothing. The only mistake this 315 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.559 kid made was being born into this situation. Coming back 316 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.960 on night Side, It's. 317 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:31.799 Night Side, Boston's news Radio, or. 318 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:36.880 Let's go to the phones. I am I'm just this 319 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:42.160 this story blows me away, and that this is this 320 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:46.319 kid was born in Connecticut, who was born in a 321 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:50.519 state that should have provided him with lots of opportunities, 322 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.119 and I just I kind of understand it. I just 323 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:56.119 can't understand. Let me go to Joe and Boston. Joe, 324 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:59.119 appreciate you calling in. Had you heard about this story 325 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.720 before tonight, Joe or is this your first exposure to her? 326 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.359 No? No, I heard about it then a few days 327 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:08.359 ago when it first actually happened. I was, I mean, 328 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:11.559 I was stron I'd say, how can things like this 329 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.880 happened in America today? And I mean, and there's two 330 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:16.839 things to it. 331 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:21.880 I was in what a very Connecticut about twenty years 332 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.880 ago with a client from Boston. She went to a 333 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:28.839 concert of shed over her to a concert down there. Yeah, 334 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.200 and I look at the town and it looks very 335 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:35.839 run down and everything. Since I'm not going to spend 336 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:38.839 the three or four hours, I asked a police officer. 337 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:41.240 You know, I tried to find a bathroom. There was 338 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.160 only one hotel in town a holiday holiday in that's 339 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.519 where the uh the group was staying. It was actually 340 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.279 the Beach Boys. 341 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.480 Okay, and this lady was a huge fan. I took 342 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.559 her the night before to the performance center in Providence, 343 00:22:57.920 --> 00:22:59.720 and then she took me for the next night to 344 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:01.160 go to what a Better Connecticut. 345 00:23:01.160 --> 00:23:04.200 My first time downe there, I asked a police you know, 346 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.160 I'm going to take a nap. I'm want to snooze. 347 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.680 Where should I you suggest? He goes, oh, you park 348 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.400 of me. Here in the middle of town is like 349 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:17.720 north west, south and east Main Street. He goes, you 350 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.039 stay within the two blocks over here. That way is 351 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:24.160 not saying because of this and that way you have 352 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:29.079 that is like the city is like a rundown city. 353 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:31.920 I mean that part of it. 354 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.240 You know, I can probably understand because I drove a 355 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:35.039 little bit around. 356 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:36.400 Yeah, and. 357 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.640 Another thing that I saw last night, actually on inside 358 00:23:40.799 --> 00:23:45.319 edition was a sister or the kid or the gentleman. 359 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:49.799 He's a gentleman now a lost sister that he has. 360 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:55.279 She's they had, They shared the same biological mother. The 361 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:56.359 sister grew up. 362 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.240 She's fine, she's perfectly find she's older than him, and 363 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.039 she knew about him and she's been looking for him, 364 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:05.079 trying to reach out to him, and she didn't know, 365 00:24:05.680 --> 00:24:09.240 and she looked and looked and looked. And they share 366 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:14.759 the same mother. But the mother gave her for adoption. Okay, 367 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.240 so so so so did she. 368 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.359 Also give the boy up for adoption? Because the woman. 369 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:24.839 I was talking to my wife and I was talking 370 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.319 to my wife, I guess she was one of those 371 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:29.960 probably on a stable person. And then she had it 372 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:35.160 with this guy, the kid, you know. And then because 373 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.839 they don't share the same father, the guy is not 374 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.400 a father or the girl, the girl is older, and 375 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:45.039 she gave her for adoption. But she knew about her brother, 376 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.759 and she saw him, you know, as a boy, and 377 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:50.920 then she never saw it, never saw him again. 378 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:54.960 So so she so so so so the the biological 379 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:59.920 mother who who we heard from earlier, had at least 380 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.559 two kids that she had and that she gave up 381 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:04.079 for adoption. 382 00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:07.480 Yeah, the first one gave up for aduction, and I 383 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.079 guess the second one, which you will be the kid 384 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:14.039 left them for you know, left them with the father, 385 00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.519 you know, and the father at some point I was 386 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.640 to marry somebody else. You know. The this is insane, Dan, 387 00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:29.039 And like you were saying earlier, I mean, what about neighborhoods, neighborly, 388 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:31.799 I know my neighbors, I know the kids of my neighbors. 389 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.200 If I gets for the kids of my neighbors for Christmas, 390 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.759 if you don't see them, you know I have you know, 391 00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:43.000 how is uh, how is the little one doing how 392 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:49.240 you know insanity in these day and age, Dan, I mean, 393 00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.480 I don't know. I just don't know. 394 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.640 They probably, I mean it's probably some mental health issues 395 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.559 they're involved or things like that. 396 00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.880 I'm sure. Well, I like the soundbod we had from 397 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.240 the school principal who said, yeah, we knew about it, 398 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:10.119 we reported it, but nothing was done. Everybody like said, 399 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:11.160 what we did the best? 400 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.920 Yeah, I mean we had in Massachusetts, as you know, 401 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:19.440