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Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually

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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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to bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you

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walk in the woods, you walk in their front door,

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thinking that you were going to surprise them, You're only

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kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads

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that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in

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my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures

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right now is by listening to and talking to those

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that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and

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experienced them in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away

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in us to this topic to be an open door

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for somebody to walk through, to be able to share

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their story, a listening ear, a support hold for those

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who have held their own encounters with that which is

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not supposed to exist.

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Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes, people, there is something

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out there. All of these thousands of people that have

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seen something. They're not all aligned, they're not all crazy.

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There are some very reputable, good people out there that

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have seen something.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, hey, thank you so much for coming.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So just to start off, if you would,

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could you like briefly go over again who you are,

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where you're from. For the people who are new here in.

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Speaker 3: This chat, I'm your star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah who.

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Speaker 3: My name is Jim Peters and I live in southern

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Illinois and the Shawnee National Forest. I've been down here

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about six years, but Joe's been my best friend most

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of my life. I used to come down from central

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Illinois down here to visit all the time, and so

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I really enjoyed it down here. I retired, I moved

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down here and we could do our squatch and more

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on a full time basis, on a part time basis,

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and so yeah, we've been at this now for at

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least twelve years. So I let him tell you who

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he is.

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Speaker 4: My name is Joe Jenkins, and I'm from southern Illinois.

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I moved down here in nineteen seventy four and I

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lived right right on the Ohio River in Hardin County.

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And yeah, Jim started coming down. We both are retired

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now are semi retired, and we got the hiking and

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and we were just out hiking and camping. We've got

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two hundred and eighty nine thousand acres of Shawnee National

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Forest and so in our backyard, so we was taking

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advantage of it. And then one night everything changed and

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we've not been doing much hiking except and out of

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suspicious places.

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Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, because you guys were telling us the last

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show that you had one area or one side that

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was primarily Bigfoot and then the other side was a

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little on the weird side.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we've had some some weird for sure.

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There's no doubt about that. Most of it it's been

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on the big Foot side of stuff, with a little

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bit of weird kind of in there, just enough to

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make you a question, you know, your your thoughts on things,

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because I know when we first started, we were both

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adamant that this was flesh and blood creature, and you know,

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it was just no doubt about it for us. We

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weren't even into the anything else, into the wu side

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of stuff. And you know, as you get going, uh

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after a few years, and you're all of a sudden

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you're you got stuff that you know you can't explain anymore.

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I think, the way we believe. But there's just some

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there's some odd stuff going on that doesn't it doesn't

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add up with with that.

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Speaker 4: We've had things happen that you just can't we just

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can't explain it, not in the natural sense.

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Speaker 2: Well, touch on some of that, touch on some of

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the weird things that you've been experience, insane.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah, sure, we don't normally tell this story

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too much, but I'll venture into it.

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Speaker 2: We were.

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Speaker 3: Camping one night and there was three of us. We

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had an older gentleman he's an ex VFRO guy with us,

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and all three of us were sitting there. We had

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a little fire going, and it was probably about I

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sitting around the fire talking and all of a sudden

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we hear and this is let me set this up

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a little bit. This was in the fall. There was

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a lot of leaf cover on the ground, okay, And

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as we were sitting there, no more than probably ten

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or eleven feet in front of us, you hear something

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walking and it's in the leaf clutternesses and you can

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hear the footfalls. You know they're thumping along, but it's

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also crunching in those leaves really really loud. As ten

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minute was with us, and uh so they're there, it's

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going by us. And as it's going by us, I

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mean it's startling because you're expecting to see this person

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or whatever just walk right into you, because that's how

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close it was. And uh, we immediately since we're all

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sitting there and we had all our gear, so we

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immediately start getting some gear out to see what it is.

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more of a shotgun mic mic on it, and we

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had flear and we had night vision and everything plus

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front of us and there's nothing there and we had it.

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it and then it turned around started walking back. We've

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got that all captured on audio. But the there was

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nothing when we There's nothing on the heat signature, there

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was not a nothing on night vision or or the spotlight.

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where you're hearing it. Step back. They get us right

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in front of you, I mean right in front of you,

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and I mean that's that's enough for me to I

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mean it was kind of raising the hair on the

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back of my neck because you're truly expecting some body

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just to show up. That's how it was and how

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close it was. But yet you don't see nothing and

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Speaker 2: Moving well, especially with the fleer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nothing. It was nothing.

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Speaker 4: Now, we've had some coon hunters down in this area

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tell us of a place where that happens to them

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almost every time they go. They called the lost coon hunter.

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Speaker 3: Go up there this area that is going to start

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following and walking beside them, which is weird. And it

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just yeah, and this was just kind of walk walked

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right by us. It's almost like it was just I

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don't know, just like I said, it was just kind

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of walking straight straight past us and then turned around

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and walked straight back and there there was nothing there.

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Speaker 3: It is creepy. It was. It was very creepy.

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Speaker 4: When you get into the I'm I'm a Christian when

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anything evil and honestly, and I mean, we're just we

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have all the sensation of some something heavy walking right

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in front of us, but just nothing there and turn

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around and come back down. And it was we had

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a fence where we were at one side of the

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fence and it was on the other side of the fence,

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just just walking down and then turned around, walked back

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and we kept the shotgun mic on it and followed

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and listened to it until it just they couldn't hear

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it anymore, went off and was gone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was very spooky. That was probably

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the weirdest thing we ever had happen, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and for that to happen to other people

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some kind of residual you know, paranormal type thing going on,

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or is it heavy enough to be you know, something

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you would consider the big thing weird. It's weird.

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Speaker 3: It was one of the weird things we ever met.

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so you know, and we were already you know, into

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doing researching into bigfoot and everything, and that's what we

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were there prepared for. And I would have I would

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have thought one was walking right up on that's how

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heavy the footfalls were. And uh, I was thinking, boy,

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this is coming right in on us. And you turn

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on everything and there's nothing there and it felt like

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it was coming right in on us. Wow. Yeah, it

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was really really Uh it was weird. Yeah, very weird.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those you just you know, pray for

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the daylight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. That was different, but it never came back,

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five or six minutes of it that was just really weird.

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Speaker 2: That is so bizarre.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the weirdest thing. I mean, I don't we

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don't talk about that very much because I can't explain it.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a whole lot in this field that cannot

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be explained. So it's really okay, and I'm here for

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all that possibility of paranormal stuff. So let's get into

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something that we all know and we all love and

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I want to share this picture. I have eleven photos

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and seven pieces of audio. Let's go through the photos first.

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Let's talk about that foot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's we come up on that footprint. That's where

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we call site one mm hmm, and so we're looking

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in that area. Anyways, I think last time we showed

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a picture of net Well that came from the same area,

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and that was so fresh. It still had moisture inside

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the footprint. It was really really fresh.

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Speaker 4: That is that was when we were new, new at this,

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so we didn't know how to We didn't measure it anything.

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Speaker 3: I just took my foot there and stuck it there.

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Speaker 2: And what size are you? What sashoe do you wear?

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an inch and a quarter into the ground. It was

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deeper at the at the toe end where he kind

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of pushed off than the heel for some reason. But uh,

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is weird because there was not another print anywhere, not

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in front of it, not on the other side of it.

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another print. Now, why would you find such a really

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good print? And you can see the toes in that

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on that one, there's every toe is in there and

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you're and yet there's nothing else And honestly, there's nobody

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that would have been in that area or anything else

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besides us, and definitely not barefooted, not in r very

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our area. Not to mention turkey mice. You just around feet. Yeah,

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so yeah, it was really odd. So that's that's what

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no other print, and that's always baffled me a little

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bit on why you could just find one print instead

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of a whole you know, trackway.

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Speaker 2: Right, and the substrate is the same. Yeah, look, there's

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no you know, one area doesn't appear that it would

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be harder than the other, you know, no.

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Speaker 3: And it's really weird because that whatever it was was

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really pretty heavy because it's smashed down there and tore

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that leaf litter off of there, and it's just it

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was just really odd ground that wasn't cleaning it out.

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kind of see where you kind of lifted his foot

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up and just pulled up the substrate with it. It

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was really really odd that we only found the one.

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Speaker 2: It's it's so bizarre because you see these all the time.

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It's just one, but it's like it's like it's just

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walking and then it's just vanishes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there's a lot of people have trackways

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even you know, they'll see four or five prints in

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a row and then it just stops, no reason for

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it to just stop. So this is one of those

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that's I would consider odd, Yes, very odd.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna show you another picture that you sent

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that caught me off guard, and it's one of those

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it just makes you scratch your head and go, huh,

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how would this have happened? And that is this picture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that's uh.

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Speaker 4: That was said to me by a friend of mine

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that knowledge that on that uh were ender the bigfoot thing,

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and uh he happened to find that in Polk County,

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down in that area, and he sent me the picture.

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He took a picture of it and sent it to me. Well,

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we went down there and looked for it, and matter

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of fact, I think we spent a couple of days

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trying to find it, and then come back, got better

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directions from him, spent a little bit more time talking

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to him, and we went looking forward again. The second

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time that we found it was actually a year later, Yeah,

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it was. It was a long time later. It's definitely remote.

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And that rock is a piece of sandstone. There's probably

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two hundred and fifty to three hundred pounds, and that

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stump that's on is seven foot tall. And so when

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we did find it the next time, the rock had

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been honestly had been picked up and set down in

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front of.

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Speaker 3: It and right at the base of the tree. Yeah,

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right there. Yeah, And we have more photos we didn't send.

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Speaker 4: But the way the tree is made is it kind

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of set like this or that rock down here and

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and that one picture, and it was just picked up

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and set down that way. If you notice the rock

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was setting at an angle. And then there's the front

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of the tree from where that picture was took before,

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and the rock had been turned and set down beside

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the tree.

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Speaker 3: And another thing you can't tell from the picture is

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how drastic the fall of the land is around it.

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It goes down flat. There's nothing flat there, and right

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there in front of the tree. It's going downhill, so

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it's just kind of set there. If it would have

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fallen off, it rolled you know a ways. But it's

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just set there and leaned up against that base of

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that tree till something picked it up and set it

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down there.

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Speaker 4: Some someone, I don't know, something maybe maybe the same

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thing that picked it up and put it up there.

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Speaker 2: That forwark, I mean, yeah, if you look at the

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rock from this angle, you have that that curvature, and

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if you see that here it is up here, you

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can see it on that one side. So again, like

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you said, if it would have just fallen, it would

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have not ended up like this.

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Speaker 3: No. No, And this is I have to add to you.

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This is a really really remote area. That's what took

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us so long to even find it is it was

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so far back in the middle of nowhere. We couldn't

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even find it. And we know quite a bit of

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the area around here. We were like, where in the

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heck is this place? So we did finally find it

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and the following year and it was already down on

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the ground, but it was definitely odd to find that.

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The road way from black Top to Gravel Road to

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Creek Rock.

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Speaker 2: And then to nothing, but yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then you walk in to get to it and

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uh yeah, that was that was an oddity to see

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the rock that heavy on top of his own foot

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stump in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, that's that's odd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why what would you know? Because, like you said,

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it's very remote, So what purpose would a person have

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and with it that heavy, lifting it that high, you

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would imagine how tall you'd have to be to even

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get it to your chest to put it up.

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Speaker 3: There, right, Yeah, I mean, honestly, the only way I

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thought about this many many nights, The only way I

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think a person could have done it and has they

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had a bucket on a tractor, right, and then they

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would have had to get the tractor in there, which

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would have been a real chore, And then they would

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have had to lift the bucket up and somehow get

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it out of the bucket onto the stump and in

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a balanced way. And you couldn't do that, I mean

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you could. You'd have to have you'd have to have

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men out there getting it out of the bucket, balancing in.

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Speaker 4: Or whatever to put it on there. And you know,

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somebody don't get hurt doing something that stupid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it doesn't. It doesn't even make sense. And

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that tractor was would have been off balance the whole time.

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It was so you know, slanted.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Pounds rock dead weight is a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Weight, right, and y'all are retired law enforcement. You know

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how many stupid people are out there. However, there's none

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you know what I mean. You would have so much

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evidence in that little forest area that there was something

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that big back there moving rocks because no doubt it

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would take down more trees.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was in a it was very remote area.

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I just can't imagine anybody getting back in there to

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do something like that.

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Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more. But that they quit were board,

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We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: But it was. It was definitely interesting find.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's just it's just those weird odd things there.

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I think it's this one, might be this one. This

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is another weird odd thing because if you guys look

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at this, it is woven in between these trees here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that picture doesn't really do a whole lot

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of justice to it. But let me explain that. So

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we had got called we could do a whole show

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on this on this site, and I'll give you the

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cliff notes version, I mean not here for it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk.

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Speaker 3: We We were called to this guy's house who he

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had been having activity, and he had he had talked

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to a friend of ours and that friend says, hey, wy,

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don't you call Jim and Joe and they would probably

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come up and, you know, help you out. So he

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called us and he told us the whole thing. He

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had been in a deer stand a hunting and it

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was still dark out and he heard something thumping behind

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him walking behind him. There's a pathway back there, and

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it was walking along this path and he has a

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little night scope that he has when he's up in

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the tree standing, you know, if he's spot in deer

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early for light. And so he kind of turned around

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in a stand and was watching this bigfoot walk along

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the path right behind where his stand was. I mean

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I say right behind, but it was probably what twenty

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five thirty feet behind it, and he's watching it and

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he watched it for ten minutes, and he had another

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buddy in the tree stand about one hundred and fifty

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yards away, and this thing let out a holler and

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a loud holler, and his buddy that's in the other

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tree stand that hadn't seen it. He was texting the

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other the guy that called us. He's texting. He says,

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are you messing with me right now? You know? Because

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he scared the cred out of that kid. And he said, no,

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there's this bigfoot walking around behind me. And so this

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kid make a long story short, the kid. They got

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down out of there, and the kid said, I'm never

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hunting there again, and he called us. We went up there.

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He told us another story about how he had been

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having trouble in this area. It's his property. They had

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been having trouble since gosh, early on. It's been a

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long long time. I don't know exactly how many years,

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but it's been a long time. And one of the

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stories he had was he was once again getting ready

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to hunt, and he didn't live on the property at

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the time, so he drove the night before up to it.

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He got there, like say, around eleven o'clock at night,

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and he thought, well, I'll just sleep in my truck

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until right before dawn, and then walked to my tree stand.

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So he's on the property, sleeping in his truck, and

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all of a sudden, something slams into the back side

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of his truck. And it moves it like four feet

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to the side. Okay, he said. He kind of woke

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up and wasn't sure, disoriented what was going on, started

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his truck and left and it had crushed in the

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backside of his truck, pickup truck. This was a nice

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truck that was lifted and nice big tires on it

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and all that and got it in and I said, wow,

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how do you explain that to the insurance company. He goes,

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it wasn't the insurance company I was worried about. He goes, well,

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till my dad, I think a bigfoot crust. He says,

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are you going drugs?

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Speaker 2: Are you drinking sone?

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Speaker 3: Are you on drugs?

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Speaker 4: I mean, So, anyway, this property and that's spot that

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you're talking about there, this man owns sick owned six

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hundred acres. It's been his family for eighty years, I think,

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he said. And there's one section of woods down there

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that's called the sapling area, is what we call it.

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And so he had told us some of these stories.

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So we went down there that night, and to make

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make it short, we put a recorder right there in

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the sapling area where we found that tree weave. That

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tree is actually through five trees wo freeze in a row,

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and it was bent back and forth between all of them.

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Speaker 3: And if you ever, if.

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Speaker 4: You get a chance, you on zoom in on that picture,

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you'll see where the bark has been rubbed off trying

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to shove it in there and get it in place.

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Speaker 2: And that's makes thumbs.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, that took some strength. Yeah, that thing probably

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about two and a half or three inches in diameter

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going through there, and you could see how much it's

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bent going through that. That can't happen naturally. There's just

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no way it would have fallen that way. And these

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little saplings that are are sticking up there that it's

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woven through, they're probably what twenty five feet tall, yeah,

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or more. And I.

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Speaker 4: Would say myself the base of that was actually more

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like three and a half four inches.

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Speaker 3: It was thick, and it was just probably that's one

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of the craziest things we've ever seen. Yeah, as far

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as three structures are concerned, that definitely is. Because when

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you're standing there looking at it and you're thinking, man,

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he bent that around that whole thing, and I mean

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it's just constantly bent like this. I took a video

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of it where you could kind of you could kind

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of see each bend in it where you know, for

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each tree it went through, and it went through five

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different trees. And then also in this area there was

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the goda's you know, limb bent over and stuck in

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the ground all over the place.

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Speaker 2: And that would be that's like this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that's that's in the that same area. Okay,

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So because of this, we set up a recorder right

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across from that area, known as the sapling area.

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Speaker 4: We left it there that night. The next morning, me

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and Jim went in as soon as the sun come up,

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we started walking down there. We walked down and got

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the recorder or walked down there. We never even got

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the recorder, and we saw this structure that had been

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made right there in the same area of the tree

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weaf overnight overnight. Yeah, and it was a pyramid shape

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teepee shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't there the night before.

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Speaker 4: I think you got a picture, Jim, Yeah, standing side.

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That was made overnight. Luckily we caught it on audio.

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You can hear dragging stuff through the woods, you can

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hear things breaking and that being put together.

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Speaker 3: We put that out right at dust the recorder right

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before we walked back out of the woods. We spent

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the night right up there. The next morning, like I said,

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it was daybreak, the sun come up and up we

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could see the trailer walk back in. We got back

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in there, and that was built and this was built

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right next to the tree, so that tree weave would

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be right to my left and that picture just a

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foot so it was right next to it, which and

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it wasn't there the day before, and that was fast fall.

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We went here a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Ago, back up there again and all that's going, well,

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that's still there, the TV is still there. The tree

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weave was taken apart, pulled out of there.

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Speaker 2: So when your opinion and it's all speculation, it's completely speculation.

477
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Why do you think, in your opinion, do they do that.

478
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 3: I think that was to let us know.

479
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 4: That it knew we were there, because when we walked

480
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,079
in that night, when the guy told us all of

481
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200
his stories, and we walked down in there, which was

482
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,599
probably what eighth of a mile or a quarter of

483
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:49,480
a mile back there to the sapling area. As soon

484
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:52,400
as we got into where the sapling area was, we

485
00:28:52,480 --> 00:29:03,440
heard three just super distinct knocks, and I got I

486
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,759
looked at him, I said, you guys, realize there's three

487
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:09,720
of us standing here and we just heard these three knocks.

488
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,759
And I think it was just that teepee was put

489
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:15,480
up there and it's lasted a year. It was still there.

490
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,759
We went a few weeks ago, I said something. Most

491
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,240
of the other structures were gone and some of the

492
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:24,839
pagodas were gone, and.

493
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:28,839
Speaker 3: It was it was a complete you know, to me,

494
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,839
outside of that tepe was a completely different looking area.

495
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,039
I mean everything was changed. There was other structures, but

496
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,720
they weren't They weren't the same as we had taken

497
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:44,359
pictures of before. And we were hoping to get some

498
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,519
activity on that particular time, but we didn't get anything,

499
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:48,640
believed or not nothing.

500
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Now was this in the same area.

501
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: This wasn't in that area that was in Harden County.

502
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:59,039
And they call these star trees. And the cool thing

503
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:04,720
about that you can't see it except for a certain

504
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,799
time of the day when the sun's coming down. I

505
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,000
have no idea why it is. I don't know if

506
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:16,240
it's just at the right angle, but you're going through

507
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,319
there at a certain time. And the reason I say

508
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,279
going through there is because it's back in the woods

509
00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:27,039
from highway, right, and we drive that highway all the

510
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:31,119
time and I can drive through there twenty times in

511
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,559
a day never see it. But there's a certain time

512
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,119
when the light shines and you're looking, it's the right

513
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,839
spot back in there in the woods. That thing just

514
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,440
is the sun shine right on it. And then which

515
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,519
I don't know if that has anything to do with it,

516
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:48,119
but I just thought that was really cool about it.

517
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: That's cool. Now, this looks like it could be a

518
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:50,920
lean to.

519
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it actually it is the tree that's kind of

520
00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:01,319
the backbone of the thing is wide like this right, work, yeah, working,

521
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:03,920
and it's on the tree like that, the tree that standing,

522
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,480
and then all all these other ones are leaned up

523
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,359
against it kind of like that, you know, some on

524
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,319
this side and some on that side. And yeah, they

525
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,480
were all all the sticks were about the same length.

526
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,920
It's just that was about that that comes from.

527
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: Site to We have three sites that we really we

528
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:29,680
really spent most of our time on, but that was

529
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,839
on site too. And you know, you'll see a photo

530
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,240
that Jim took of of encrypted on on that side

531
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,720
as well. But really one of the reasons why he

532
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,920
had the cameras out that he has.

533
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: Is that that one?

534
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: No, No, he can tell you a sorry about that one.

535
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,519
Speaker 4: This one where you showed the footprints off site one.

536
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,160
Then that footprint is what really got us to recording

537
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:05,160
in that area and looking around that area later on.

538
00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:08,480
I think you had it on your last show. There

539
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,240
was a nest. We found a big nest.

540
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:10,599
Speaker 3: On the ground.

541
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I remember that.

542
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,799
Speaker 4: Nest was in the same place that the same area,

543
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,000
but this was the same section of woods, and so

544
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,440
we're kind of looking in that area. Anyways. So I'm

545
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,000
running out one evening, I'm going on a golf cart

546
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,960
just going through there. And of course anytime i'm out,

547
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:36,279
anytime i'm out, just away from the house whatever, I

548
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:40,160
have a flirt with me and a headland and I

549
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,839
was just riding along with the golf cart and just

550
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,240
to kind.

551
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: Of enjoy the evening.

552
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: Looking for eye shine, you know, and not necessarily for bigfoot,

553
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:52,759
but see.

554
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:53,839
Speaker 3: Any kind of eye shine at all.

555
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,519
Speaker 4: You know what night you just kind of look around

556
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,559
and see what's in our in our area. And I'm

557
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:03,519
on a golf cart driving through there and I see

558
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:08,880
I see light off to my side, two eyes. I

559
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,240
had my headlamp on it was shining this way. I

560
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,240
turned my only headlamp that way, and it was like

561
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:15,960
somebody turned on two big flashlights.

562
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,279
Speaker 2: Huh.

563
00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: I turned it away again and I could see those

564
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:24,839
those big eyes. I mean they were that big around, yeah,

565
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,960
And it was across the field in the back, in

566
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:35,599
the edge of the woods, and it was probably four

567
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,799
and a half feet off the ground. The eyes were

568
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,960
all I could see was the eyes. I took my

569
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:46,359
headlamp and I had literally got off my golf cart,

570
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,000
and I'm it's watching me, and I'm watching it.

571
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

572
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,559
Speaker 4: I turned my headlamp towards it, you know, and if

573
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:56,880
I moved over little ways, you could tell that the

574
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,720
eyes was moving and watching me.

575
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: These eyes were self illuminating, you know, kind of an

576
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,200
orange red or orange yellow color.

577
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: Even when I turned my head lamp off of it,

578
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,280
I could still see them. They still had a glow

579
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,719
to them even though you know, but man, when you

580
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,320
turn the light on.

581
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,559
Speaker 3: I turned light on. That was it.

582
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: I grabbed my fleer. Actually, I grabbed my camera first

583
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,280
and tried to take a picture and it wouldn't it

584
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,960
wouldn't take anything. Took my flear and I got a

585
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,920
all I could get was. I got a leopold clear.

586
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,039
The stream is like one by one and a half inches,

587
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,159
like a small screen. I could tell that I had

588
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,840
the eyes. I seen the eyes, and I took a

589
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,880
picture of it, and I just keep thinking. At the time,

590
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,920
I thought it's cougar because it's four feet off the

591
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,639
ground the eyes.

592
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,679
Speaker 3: So I thought, well, it's a cougar setting up right,

593
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,039
you know. And I wasn't gonna get any closer than

594
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:04,719
that exactly, and I reached around. I got a spotlight.

595
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: Let me grab a spotlight, and I grabbed a spotlight,

596
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:10,800
thinking I can light this thing up and maybe get

597
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,679
a picture with my camera. I turned back around and

598
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,159
shine the spotlight down through there.

599
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:20,599
Speaker 3: There was nothing. It was gone. Still thought I had

600
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:24,199
a cougar until I took a inside and put it

601
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,480
on the computer. Is the second I put it on

602
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:30,880
the computer, I realized that that wasn't a It wasn't

603
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,960
the cougar. It was still graining. The picture that I had.

604
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 4: It was in kind of a black and white the

605
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,360
filter that I was using on it. And so we

606
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,519
sent this off to Jesus Payan of Breaking big Foot,

607
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:51,960
and he looked at it and he enhanced it and

608
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:54,960
that's where we You can see the limbs. You can

609
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,199
see the limbs in front of him where he's behind it.

610
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,639
You can see the knuckles on its knees, uh huh.

611
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:03,400
And what it was doing is it was squatting down.

612
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,639
That's my opinion now that I looked at that picture.

613
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,039
You can see the conical head, shoulders, you can see

614
00:36:10,039 --> 00:36:12,800
where the hits go out, and those fingers are on

615
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,519
its knees where it was squatted down.

616
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

617
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: That's the fascinating thing for me is you could see

618
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,679
every one of his fingers there on his knees as

619
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,159
he's as he's got his hands up like that.

620
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

621
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was interesting.

622
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

623
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,079
Speaker 3: This is all site one.

624
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Well, let's get into some audio and we're talking about

625
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:41,280
let's see because some of these are so fascinating. The

626
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,880
one that I was talking to you guys about before

627
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,039
the show, and so for you at home who were watching,

628
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:50,920
I'm gonna I'm gonna play it twice. So I'll play

629
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:54,599
the first time, then you'll come back to our pretty faces,

630
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,440
and then I'll hit it again because y'all are gonna

631
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,719
be like, uh uh, play that again. I gotta hear

632
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:05,199
it again. So we'll start with the Illinois howel.

633
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 6: M m m.

634
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: M. What was that?

635
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 3: I think about that? How we caught that?

636
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 4: We were in the side beside Uh, in the middle

637
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,440
of the night. We were out in a field actually

638
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440
in the property where that you just showed the I

639
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,440
thought it was squatting. We was in that field before

640
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,119
we got into the woods. Well, that's in a valley,

641
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,679
and we were down on the in the field part

642
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,280
of it, and it was off across the highway.

643
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,599
Speaker 3: There's a big old mountain on the other side.

644
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 4: And I mean it's probably about a half mile off

645
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:29,119
from where were easy. The dogs you hear at the

646
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,320
end of that was just right across the creek and

647
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,719
up the hill in a in a family's yard, I guess.

648
00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:45,280
I mean, they weren't one hundred yards from us, Yeah, said,

649
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,679
they were just across the creek, up in the woods.

650
00:38:48,559 --> 00:38:50,719
And you can hear how loud that thing was that

651
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,760
was coming from on top of that mountain.

652
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: I mean, we can tell exactly where it's coming from. Uh,

653
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,559
and it was, it was. It was very very loud.

654
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:01,920
It doesn't do just as he's trying to make comparison

655
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,159
to the sound of the howl to the dogs. The

656
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,519
dogs were third yards away and this thing was probably

657
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,960
half a mile away, and you know it was just

658
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,039
as loud, and I mean it really had to be

659
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,840
allowed to carry that far. It was pretty awesome. It

660
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,679
took us completely by surprise because it had been totally

661
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,119
quiet that evening. We were just sitting there with we

662
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,159
had the cybe the side turned off, and we had

663
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:29,960
some fleers going looking. There's a creek running in the

664
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,199
bottoms there running around. There was timber all around those.

665
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,960
So we're kind of using our flare looking around down

666
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,760
there and at a recorder take to a lamb up

667
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,199
in the tree. Yeah, you know, we were just kind

668
00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:44,639
of and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere,

669
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,360
this thing just starts blaring and we're like, wow, pretty good.

670
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: Glad we got that on the record.

671
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:58,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly. That was a good one. Yeah, that is.

672
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more. But the big flip report, We'll

673
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,079
be right back.

674
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,079
Speaker 2: That is Alex said that audio hasn't had dog spooked. Well,

675
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:15,639
prepare your dog, Alex, because there's more, Babe. I'm just

676
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,239
trying to go through the chat and where I've missed.

677
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,599
Let's let's do another audio here, I'm just trying to

678
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:28,639
catch questions at the same time. Forgive me, let's listen

679
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:32,000
to this one. So this one and then the following

680
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:35,920
I will do. I'll run through them twice. If you

681
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,679
want me to go through the other ones twice as well,

682
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:58,280
we can, but these, for sure I do. That is

683
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,119
a Louisville slugger up against the tree.

684
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 3: Well, I got a story for that. One's like too

685
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:06,079
not story for that one.

686
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

687
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,119
Speaker 3: So I mean, if you if you go back and

688
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:15,639
you listen to that, there is some stick clutter on

689
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:19,320
the ground and you can actually hear it. Take a step,

690
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:24,239
and it breaks some branches right before it knocks the tree.

691
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,079
You can almost hear the crunch, crunch, crust, and then bam,

692
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:32,039
it hits the tree. And uh. I had been putting

693
00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:38,159
recorders out in this area for several years, and as

694
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:44,079
of late I put them out and it it to me,

695
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,920
I always get this knock. That's like it's right next

696
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,239
to my recorder on the tree, right next to where

697
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,840
I put my recorder. And uh, it didn't happen for

698
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,440
the first several years, but as of late, it's almost like,

699
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,159
you know, I see your recorder. I'm gonna knock this

700
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,239
tree right here, right next to it. And they're always

701
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,559
super loud, just like that, just unbelievably loud. And it

702
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:13,719
has to be right next to the tree where my

703
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,800
recorder's at. And I mean it's it's really one of

704
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,400
the better knocks, you know, yeah, that you get when

705
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,960
they're that close. And it's been doing that now over

706
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,159
the last several years. I'll put a recorder out, never fails,

707
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:29,679
I get a I get a loud knock right next

708
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:30,039
to it.

709
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:33,599
Speaker 4: So and this area of sight too, is it's on

710
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:38,119
private property, but it's also adjoining shown in a national forest.

711
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,559
And a lot of times he'll get a knock on

712
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:46,559
his recorder and then you'll hear one far away here,

713
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,760
just you know, faintly, and then you'll hear one halfway between.

714
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: And it looked like three of them answering.

715
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: One another on the knox. They're multiple ones. So we've

716
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,559
gotten in steaveral like that in the same area. And

717
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,920
that's the same area that knock is where you've just

718
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,079
seen the fork with the sides on it.

719
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: You know, let's listen to this one. This one is

720
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,159
this one, you guys, I have no idea, what the

721
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,960
hell this is? Okay, I have no idea. I am

722
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,480
like so excited to see what what everyone in the

723
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:43,039
chat thinks. And this one I will play twice.

724
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 3: What is that? We wish we could tell you.

725
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: I mean, that's taken from the same site site too,

726
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,800
and it has the mechanical sound to it.

727
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,559
Speaker 3: And that's not the first time we've heard of mechanical sound.

728
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,880
I think we discussed that on the previous show.

729
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: About kind of being led around trying to find that

730
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:11,239
sound and mechanical. It wasn't exactly that, but you know,

731
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,159
something simple like that, Yeah, you know, very similar to that.

732
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: It just it's just some kind It just sounds so

733
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:21,159
mechanical to us, but yet there's no there's nothing out

734
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:27,280
there to make that sound. Your guess is as good

735
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,639
as mine, and if anybody in your audience knows, let

736
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,760
us know, because we haven't been able to figure it

737
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,280
out either.

738
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, so you had mentioned to me that someone had

739
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,079
said it sounded like an elk, right, So Troy and

740
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:44,280
here said it almost sounds like an elk bugle cut

741
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:51,480
short native trackers that a historic animal, and then Chris asked,

742
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:53,400
is there an elk insight too?

743
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,639
Speaker 3: No, there's not. There's no elk around where, you know,

744
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960
somether knowingly, we got a lot of white tailed deer,

745
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,360
but noelk.

746
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 2: So and it's like you said, I mean, we hear

747
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,800
encounters all the time. There's this metallic sound. We don't

748
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
know where it's coming from. And Wayne's heard it too.

749
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:19,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you hear the original sound, like kind

750
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,840
of with headphones on where it's really clear, it's it

751
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719
just sounds. It just really sounds mechanical.

752
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:26,679
Speaker 3: They just did.

753
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 4: In the middle of the night, in the middle of

754
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,400
the woods. I mean there's not roads going by there,

755
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,400
there's not even trails going through there.

756
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: That's not the first time we've somebody said, yeah, it

757
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:43,639
could be an elk because we'd heard that before. Somebody said, well,

758
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:46,920
I think that sounds like an elk, and uh, you know,

759
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,239
that's that's fine. Maybe maybe we had a stray out

760
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,400
coming through and just decided to do kind of a

761
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,000
call there or something. I I don't know, but it

762
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:56,960
sure does sound mechanical to us.

763
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,679
Speaker 2: And then you know it does it almost sounds like

764
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,239
something starting up.

765
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 3: You know, Yes, it's an odd sound. And then shuts off.

766
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's listen to it again. I love this down.

767
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:20,679
Let's listen to one more time. Yeah, someone's like you

768
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,440
just pull a pull string.

769
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: It sounds like, yeah, we have no idea.

770
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,559
Speaker 2: It's bizarre. Now, on the last show you had, we're

771
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,679
talking about chatter, and you had sent me an audio

772
00:46:34,679 --> 00:47:01,119
clip for chatter. Let's play that. Where is that at?

773
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:06,679
Speaker 3: That's just that's again on site too. Where where where

774
00:47:06,679 --> 00:47:08,840
you heard the big loud knock and where you heard

775
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,760
the mechanical sound and where the the uh thing was?

776
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:18,079
It's all on that same side. And it's it's like

777
00:47:18,159 --> 00:47:22,199
I said, it is this is just nothing but for us,

778
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,039
for miles. Okay, So it's out there in the middle

779
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:29,119
of nowhere, and I can guarantee you there's no one

780
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,280
else around.

781
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,119
Speaker 2: Because it sounds like a room full of men.

782
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,559
Speaker 3: Just yeah, real deep, yeah, real deep sounding. And yeah,

783
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,880
that was so bizarre. When you pull something like that,

784
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,280
it's like the disembodied voices or or something, or you

785
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:53,760
can't make out what it's saying, but you know somebody's talking. Yeah,

786
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,360
it's it's it's spooky to hear something like that, especially

787
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,480
when you know there's no one back there. And we've

788
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:03,639
we've caught several times on recorders, we've caught chatter and

789
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:07,280
it's always you can hear it. You can hear it

790
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,239
on the recorder. You just can't make it out. But

791
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,920
it sounds it sounds like vocalizations. And I mean that's

792
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,920
like you said, it's whatever was making that that was

793
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,639
coming from a very large, deep vocal. Yeah, I mean

794
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,440
it's it's something.

795
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Richard Sturbin talken.

796
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:34,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had We've even had singing chatter where it

797
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:35,679
sounds like somebody's singing.

798
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:41,599
Speaker 2: We just had Mike on Mike Miller and if I'm

799
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,000
he had an audio clip because it was my favorite

800
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,320
out of his and it was going ooh oh, and

801
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,480
it was just kind of like its melodic tone, So

802
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,880
that correlates with with you, this does not sound like singing.

803
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,960
This does, however, sound like a very angry man. Let's listen,

804
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:19,199
somebody pissed it off.

805
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: That sounds to me like just a huge roar, just

806
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:25,519
like a lion roar, and way back there in the background,

807
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:25,960
just like.

808
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: And again that was taken that was recorded from sight too.

809
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,679
Again yeah, got lines.

810
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 3: Up and I have no idea what that was, but

811
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,480
it just was so sounded so much like like a lion. Yeah,

812
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:44,559
like a lion, or you know, something's bad at something.

813
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, let's listen to it one one more time,

814
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:49,719
because I really want the audience to listen, especially if

815
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,719
you have one of like hippons or AirPods. Listen to

816
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,920
the guttural.

817
00:49:54,079 --> 00:49:55,519
Speaker 3: It's at the beginning of it.

818
00:49:55,599 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 6: Guess yeah, I mean it's a whole box and no,

819
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,400
thank you for me.

820
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

821
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: It's insane. You have a lot of a lot of

822
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,840
activity on that site.

823
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: Too, huh, yeah, we have, and it's been that way

824
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,639
for years. Yeah. So I said, we've narrowed it down

825
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,400
the three sites, and we seem to be consistently getting

826
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,320
stuff off of those sites.

827
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,119
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So speaking of sight too, let's go to

828
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:55,840
this one.

829
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say too as well.

830
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:06,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that how and it almost sounds and it must

831
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,320
sound sad.

832
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does sound sad, doesn't It sounds like or

833
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:15,599
it's in pain or or or just alone or something

834
00:51:15,639 --> 00:51:17,000
like it's calling for something.

835
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:18,079
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

836
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. That sounds very sad to me.

837
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 2: Say threehow sounds similar, just sounds so sad. You just

838
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,239
want to hug it and say it's okay. Tomorrow's another day.

839
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: When I heard that, I didn't want to run up

840
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,719
and hug anything that comes from sight three.

841
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,119
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, when we talk about in the woods,

842
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480
sight three is we don't even go there very often.

843
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,280
But yeah, that's a deputy friend of mine. Of course,

844
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,639
I'm always talking to the deputy. Say, hey, listen to this.

845
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 3: I heard this. I heard this. Well.

846
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 4: He was telling me about where he was hunting deer

847
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,880
hunting at and I put me up a tree stand. Man,

848
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,679
I got this good spot and he's explaining to me

849
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,800
where it's at. And I said, oh, have you ever

850
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,079
heard anything like this? And I played him that on

851
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:49,119
my phone. He said yeah, I said, I said, that's

852
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,159
from out in that area where you're talking about. Not

853
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,559
the same place, but close.

854
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said. I said, have you heard heard anything

855
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,639
like this? And I played him a couple of knocks

856
00:52:58,639 --> 00:53:04,360
and stick brakes up. He's like yeah, he said, like

857
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,920
sound like trees falling over back there. Stuff. He said,

858
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:10,000
I said, well, but you got to make the back

859
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:14,199
in that area. He said, I've heard that. How I

860
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:15,519
don't even know if I'm gonna go back and get

861
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:16,440
my tree stead.

862
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 2: Friends.

863
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that area is one of those areas that just

864
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:34,519
it's it's just spooky that those woods are really really odd.

865
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,719
You never feel comfortable when you're in them. Matter of fact,

866
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,000
I don't know that I've ever really felt super comfortable

867
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:44,519
in that area, and we haven't went there that often

868
00:53:44,679 --> 00:53:51,679
because of that. You there, Yes, it's either watched or

869
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:58,079
this feeling of dread or doom, and you know that

870
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:01,000
you get normally you're in the woods and it's very

871
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,280
relaxing for us, we enjoy it, but boy, you going

872
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,519
there every time, for me, it's just this feeling of dread.

873
00:54:08,679 --> 00:54:10,199
It's like you just want to get out of there.

874
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just makes you feel gross and you're like,

875
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:13,280
we gotta leave.

876
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a real weird area. I don't even feel

877
00:54:18,039 --> 00:54:19,920
good going in that area, to be honest with you.

878
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody in our audience and especially those who

879
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:27,159
have hunted, I'm sure can understand what you're saying about

880
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:30,079
that and even going into you know, you have paranormal

881
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,480
investigators who go into a room and it's just heavy

882
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,960
and it's just that we shouldn't be here, we should leave.

883
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's kind of the feeling I got.

884
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,559
I don't know, what Joe gets when he goes through there.

885
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,480
And I mean I've driven around the area before and

886
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:47,159
I don't get that, but if you're out in it, yeah,

887
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,159
that area is just you know, years and years and

888
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:57,039
years ago, this was like almost like a camp area,

889
00:54:57,159 --> 00:55:00,519
wasn't It was almost like a camping area where they

890
00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:05,119
had you'll you'll see really old, uh like placards where

891
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:07,400
you know this it was numbered like this is campsite

892
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,280
number thirty five, and then you know, down the road

893
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,480
you might see another one. It's completely abandoned and I

894
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:19,159
know exactly why. It's because it's too eerie to even

895
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:21,760
stay in. Nobody goes there.

896
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: You're definitely not spending the night, is what you're saying.

897
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,599
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we might again, yes, but it's you don't.

898
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,440
It's not somebody you don't do it very often, you

899
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,280
would look forward to do it. That's a that's a

900
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,639
bad to me. It's a bad area. Yeah, it's I

901
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:40,480
think it's pretty pretty active.

902
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it sounds like everywhere you are is very active.

903
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: The sites that we've picked out over the last twelve years,

904
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:51,480
and I mean we it took us a long time

905
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,679
to figure out what's where, you know, what what what

906
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,880
parts of the Shawnee National Forest that is around us

907
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:02,920
is active. We've got three sites that we've found, and

908
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,800
I will add to that, we've been called by other

909
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,920
people here in the area that have activity on or

910
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,440
close to them, which we haven't been to. We've been

911
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,960
through it a couple of times, but it wasn't one

912
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,519
of our original three areas. And now we've branched out.

913
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:26,079
We have another area because they're called and they've had

914
00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:31,320
activities since nineteen eighty nine. And we have people now

915
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,679
telling us after doing what we've been doing, telling us stories,

916
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,400
and I mean, it's just not our three spots down

917
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,800
here southern Illinois. Like I said, Shawney National Courses two

918
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:47,800
hundred and ninety eight thousand acres or acres, and I'm

919
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,239
sure there's things happening all over I gets me right.

920
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: Well, And that's that's what I was gonna ask. And

921
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,760
you guys, hear my dog. It's not big, but I swear,

922
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:02,719
and he ain't dying. He's twelve, and he's dramatic because

923
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,800
Carrie's not home. That's what I was gonna ask you,

924
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:10,719
is if there had ever been any anybody else to

925
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,519
reach out to you to say, hey, we're having some

926
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:15,239
stuff go on, are you.

927
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:21,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. We just had a lady call us about three

928
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:27,880
or four months ago, and she had one sitting out

929
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,199
on She's in the middle of Shawnee National Force as

930
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:32,280
well too, I mean literally right on the other side

931
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,880
of her drive as Shawnee Unsel Forest. And as you're

932
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:40,079
going up her drive there, she was on her deck

933
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,719
sitting there looking down the lane and she saw something

934
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,440
moving and at first it was coming up the hill

935
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,119
and at first she could just see the top of it,

936
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,519
maybe air or something like that. Yeah, And as it

937
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:58,519
got closer closer to her, she realized it was a

938
00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:01,440
big foot coming and she kind of said, I didn't

939
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:02,920
want to look at in the eye, so I kind

940
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,079
of turned my head and kind of, you know, side

941
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:09,440
eyed it. And she said, this thing was walking on

942
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,360
its palms and its feet, so it had its hands

943
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,000
down like this flat right, and it's walking like a

944
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:22,000
down low, you know, creeping up like this, red eyes,

945
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,840
red eyes, and it's creeping up using its palms on

946
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,920
the ground and kind of creeping up. And she said

947
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,000
when it saw her, it stopped and she kind of

948
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,119
sit there and it stood up and she said things

949
00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:38,559
over nine foot tall. And the reason she could tell

950
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:40,719
is because it was taller than the light. She had

951
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,119
an out light on a tree and it was standing

952
00:58:44,199 --> 00:58:45,960
right there and it was taller than that light on

953
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,440
the tree, and they had it nine foot and she

954
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,320
said it stood up, it took two steps and was

955
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,119
going into the woods. So, yeah, there's other people that

956
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:57,320
are having stuff in our area. And that's about twenty

957
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,039
minutes from here.

958
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,039
Speaker 2: That's crazy because it's kind of like that spider crawl, you.

959
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, very much like what we thought too, very

960
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:08,320
low to the ground and on its palms and just

961
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,519
kind of creeping up very low to the ground.

962
00:59:11,719 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: That I don't know how I feel about that.

963
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,639
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that i'd be very comfortable about

964
00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:20,559
it either. She wasn't either. She went inside and pulled

965
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:24,079
all her curtains, she said, and shut the door, and

966
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:27,599
and but she was she was kind of frozen. She said,

967
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,000
I didn't want to look at the eye, and you know,

968
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:32,119
and then when it stood up, that's when she said.

969
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:35,119
I went inside and it was this guy within twenty

970
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:35,639
feet of her.

971
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,239
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, feet.

972
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,119
Speaker 3: That's crawling up there, sneaking up on you.

973
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:46,199
Speaker 2: Just in the dark too.

974
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, go away. Yeah, that's bad. I wouldn't want to

975
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,159
go away. That's just out there last week checking the

976
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:59,880
area out again. We're going to keep an eye on that.

977
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 5: Stay tuned for more but the bigfoot report. We'll be

978
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:05,199
right back.

979
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: In a night or two. Out there. Sometimes.

980
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: Well, if you catch a spider crawling big foot, please

981
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:13,800
let me know, because I'm snatching you and you were

982
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,760
coming on here. We're gonna look at it together.

983
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,559
Speaker 3: Actually, we did catch audio from that same area, and

984
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:23,360
this is uh yeah, I had put an audio recorder

985
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,239
out one night we couldn't stay, but I'd put a

986
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:29,800
recorder out. I caught some audio and uh we even

987
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:35,599
went on a a BFRO expedition and uh we did

988
01:00:35,639 --> 01:00:39,079
a presentation for him, and we ask everybody if they

989
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:43,800
ever heard this sound. Before nobody'd ever heard it. They

990
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,119
ran it through an app that is supposed to be

991
01:00:47,159 --> 01:00:50,920
able to tell you what animal sounds are what, and yeah,

992
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,920
it just came back unknown until nobody's been able to

993
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,639
tell us what that is. And we should probably sent

994
01:00:57,719 --> 01:00:59,519
that to her, so maybe your audience could have heard it.

995
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:05,239
But it was really really an odd, odd sound, and

996
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:08,880
we didn't know what to make of it, but it

997
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,920
came from that same area where she had had the

998
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,320
same creeping up on her. And you know, we're talking

999
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,599
just months ago, but this thing came creeping up on her.

1000
01:01:18,599 --> 01:01:19,840
So it's very very recent.

1001
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:24,519
Speaker 2: That is creepy. So she doesn't go outside after dark anymore.

1002
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know, honestly, you could be you know,

1003
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:32,440
five feet ten feet from one of these things. I

1004
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,639
never know they're there.

1005
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,559
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's what we talked about in we'rever an hour.

1006
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:40,159
But it's okay, that's what we talk about. They had

1007
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:43,719
been in the woods, they did. The woods is their home.

1008
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,920
We can go in there and they can watch us

1009
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,360
the whole time we're there. We're never going to know

1010
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,599
that they're there. No, we did not surprise them when

1011
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:53,880
we walked in the woods. Being quiet doesn't.

1012
01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: Matter, no, believe me. They know you're there. And that's

1013
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,599
kind of the way we do our research is we

1014
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:04,519
don't necessarily go out and holler and all that kind

1015
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,599
of stuff. We have more success if we just go

1016
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,199
and mind our own business and sit around and let

1017
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:15,800
them kind of come into us. And we've had way

1018
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,519
more success doing that than if we're making a lot

1019
01:02:18,519 --> 01:02:21,000
of noise racket through the woods or hollering or knocking

1020
01:02:21,079 --> 01:02:25,199
on trees or whatever. That's our experience. That doesn't mean

1021
01:02:25,239 --> 01:02:28,239
it's the only way to do it. It's just where

1022
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,280
we're at that seems to work the best.

1023
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: But they're curious to animals. If you want to look

1024
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,719
at them as an animal, don't come for me, whoever

1025
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,400
watches this, If you want to look at them in

1026
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,719
that light, it's curiosity. So if you go out there

1027
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,559
and you're just hooting and hollering, you know, sitting around

1028
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:50,639
a campfire talking, having a good time, I think they're

1029
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:53,599
naturally going to be drawn, you know, because you don't

1030
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:57,360
know what you're saying when you're cob blasting, you know.

1031
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:00,320
I think there's an apt fun around here. I think

1032
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,760
in some places it has its time. But a lot

1033
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,719
of times I think if you just go and you

1034
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,679
know you can't you be human, you be yourself. You know,

1035
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:11,239
it's going to draw them in their national curiosity more

1036
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,199
so than anything else.

1037
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:16,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, even to the point, like I said,

1038
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,559
Jim's been putting those recorders out in that same spot

1039
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:24,440
almost almost nightly, and they're so used to him to

1040
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,840
the point that you know, I think they mess with

1041
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,119
him sometimes just just you know, he's not out there

1042
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:34,599
trying to mess with them. He's not. In fact, he's

1043
01:03:34,639 --> 01:03:38,639
got a video that he just got that's pretty crazy.

1044
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,400
In this in in that area, it's getting the point where,

1045
01:03:44,679 --> 01:03:48,159
matter of fact, you got a picture of one that

1046
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,039
in that sight too. It might be the one doing

1047
01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:54,800
the knocking. It's kind of cloaking there by the tree.

1048
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, hold on, I think I know which one

1049
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,320
you're talking about.

1050
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:01,119
Speaker 3: Us one.

1051
01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's right here, because I see it. It's

1052
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,400
right for everybody looking at this photo. It's right underneath

1053
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,519
this branch here, right.

1054
01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see his conical head on top of

1055
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,679
the branch, right above the branch. The branch is going

1056
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,199
right across his forehead, and underneath the branch you can

1057
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,719
see his right eye socket, his nose and his mouth

1058
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:32,159
owns math and then the rest of his body going down. Uh,

1059
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,320
he's standing in a ditch right there, about a five

1060
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:41,199
foot deep ditch. And uh, that branch down to the

1061
01:04:41,239 --> 01:04:44,599
bottom of the ditch is eight foot so and he's

1062
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:48,079
standing behind it, so he's at least eight foot And

1063
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,599
like I said, you see the conical head right there

1064
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:53,960
on top of the branch and he was he was.

1065
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,599
This was taken in March, and it was had been

1066
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:01,400
raining all morning and it was just really really gray out.

1067
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:04,280
And believe it or not, this is a color picture

1068
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:10,039
taken with an iPhone twelve Pro Max. It's a color picture,

1069
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,480
but that's how great it was out. Everything just looked gray, misty.

1070
01:05:14,519 --> 01:05:19,440
And he was about sixty yards from where I was

1071
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:24,440
at and he froze. I walked out and he froze

1072
01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:28,079
right there, and I just get my phone out. I

1073
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,039
didn't even zoom in. I just took the picture because

1074
01:05:30,039 --> 01:05:31,360
I wanted to get it before he left.

1075
01:05:32,079 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: Huh.

1076
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: And he froze. I mean, he wasn't moving at all,

1077
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:38,599
just to kind of stand there, just blending in. And

1078
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:40,599
I don't know if you've got any hunters on here,

1079
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:43,960
but sometimes if a deer is out in the woods,

1080
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,079
you know, if it ain't moving, sometimes it's just perfectly

1081
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:50,760
blended into the background. You can't see it exactly. It's

1082
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,800
tail flips or you know, it moves, and then you go, oh, yeah, well,

1083
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,400
that's what this was doing. It was standing there blending

1084
01:05:57,599 --> 01:06:01,920
so well with the background. But I should have been

1085
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,800
able to see through that area he's blocking that he's

1086
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,960
blocking that rest that ditch. You should have been able

1087
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,119
to see right through there. And uh yeah, that thing

1088
01:06:11,239 --> 01:06:14,440
was that was big. I was about eight foot about

1089
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,559
four feet wide.

1090
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:19,599
Speaker 2: That I mean, that's that's a mess. Yeah.

1091
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if he was exactly

1092
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:25,760
cloaking or blending somehow, but he was blending in perfectly

1093
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,400
to the background, but it was still I could still

1094
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,639
see him. So and I sent it to Joe. Then

1095
01:06:32,199 --> 01:06:35,519
I said, Joe, what do you see here? And he's

1096
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,880
the one that made the black circle above it. He

1097
01:06:38,039 --> 01:06:41,480
was saying, right there in the circle. I go, yeah, yeah,

1098
01:06:41,559 --> 01:06:44,440
right there. Yeah, And I've colorized it a couple of

1099
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,079
times to see you know, sometimes in the color versions

1100
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:50,199
you can see it better because it just makes the

1101
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,920
contrast a little different.

1102
01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 2: Right right. So yeah, And we've talked. We had went

1103
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,480
on with da and Robbie Rains and we had talked

1104
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,320
about the cloaking versus the just blending in like when

1105
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,960
when you look at the animal kingdom, most every single

1106
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,360
animal in the forest has the ability to camouflage, you know.

1107
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,159
And when Robbie was on our show, he was talking

1108
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:17,920
about how the polar bears blending so well, because they're white.

1109
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,920
You know, their hair follicle is clear, so it's reflecting

1110
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,280
the snow. So when they lay down or if they're hunting,

1111
01:07:25,719 --> 01:07:29,599
they'll purposely cover up their nose because they know their

1112
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:32,800
nose is going to give them away. So it may

1113
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,639
be something you know, you hear people say cloaking, and

1114
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:39,000
it could be. But if you you know, speaking to

1115
01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:43,599
the strictly flush and blood portion of the community, they

1116
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:47,079
would say it's just naturally, you know, camouflaging itself into

1117
01:07:47,199 --> 01:07:47,920
the background.

1118
01:07:49,159 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about that one is it was didn't

1119
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,000
seem to be any hair on his face at all.

1120
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:56,960
The body, the body had all kinds of hair, but

1121
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:03,760
his face was just skin a lighter color than the

1122
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,400
rest of him and didn't seem to have any hair

1123
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,599
on his face. On his head, yes, but on its

1124
01:08:09,679 --> 01:08:12,199
face seemed to be hairless well.

1125
01:08:12,199 --> 01:08:16,039
Speaker 2: And we just had Donna on this past week and

1126
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:18,760
she was talking about that. She was talking about how

1127
01:08:20,119 --> 01:08:22,119
the one that she had seen it was, you know,

1128
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,039
just a little hair on the face but not much

1129
01:08:25,079 --> 01:08:27,720
to speak of as compared to the rest of the body.

1130
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,479
So it's it's.

1131
01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:34,279
Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, that's the way that one appeared. And if.

1132
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,399
Speaker 4: If your listeners will, if they'll go to our page,

1133
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,439
the Squatcher's page, if you got a link, they'll see

1134
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,600
a video that Jim just shot two or three weeks ago.

1135
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:52,079
He stepped out and his truck was back there in

1136
01:08:52,119 --> 01:08:56,359
that wooded area and he saw something moving around behind it.

1137
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,319
So he got a little bit of a video which

1138
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:04,680
we've got on our side, and you can might possibly

1139
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:05,800
be that thing again.

1140
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,119
Speaker 2: So you never know.

1141
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,279
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1142
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, you never know.

1143
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 3: I was letting my dog out to go to the

1144
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,520
bathroom and my dog was like trained on it. I mean,

1145
01:09:18,119 --> 01:09:20,439
I'm yelling at it. So come on, go party, you know,

1146
01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:24,319
so I can get back inside. And the dogs right

1147
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,199
on it, I mean not moving. So I looked at

1148
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:29,520
what what's it looking at? And then there's this thing

1149
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,479
moving around behind my truck. I thought maybe it was

1150
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,600
sure what it was, and then I started moving to

1151
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,640
try to catch it because it kept ducking in between

1152
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,319
the trees. We have that video up on our Squatcher's

1153
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:43,319
Facebook page.

1154
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, you guys go check that out. I'm gonna

1155
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,560
be yeah, you guys check that out. They have I'm

1156
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,279
going to give you the opportunity. I'm going to get

1157
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:55,119
into the questions and sure, and then I'm going to

1158
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:59,119
give you the opportunity to promote the hell out of yourselves.

1159
01:09:59,279 --> 01:10:01,359
Speaker 3: So okay, all right.

1160
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: Let's see Chris Bullaylock. What type of recorders do you use?

1161
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:09,800
Is there any particular brand?

1162
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: We use the Olympus recorders, and they're the basically the

1163
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,800
digital recorders that Kim's gonna grab once you can see it,

1164
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,079
I think, I think maybe it's seventy ten. But we

1165
01:10:25,279 --> 01:10:27,680
started out with them and we put them to the tree.

1166
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:34,680
Now we shut up all the all the filters that

1167
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,159
wants to try and cut sound to us, so we

1168
01:10:37,159 --> 01:10:38,079
we shut all that off.

1169
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,039
Speaker 3: It's just recording everything. This is what they look like.

1170
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:44,520
I don't know what's best.

1171
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: Oh. So it's just a slim little.

1172
01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, just very small, and it's basically just a voice recorder,

1173
01:10:55,159 --> 01:10:59,239
you know, run you about seventy bucks, sixty five like that,

1174
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,760
and these things believe it or not, the record like

1175
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:05,399
sixty hours. So you could leave them out for a

1176
01:11:05,399 --> 01:11:08,840
couple of days if you, if you wanted to. I

1177
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:14,239
usually I usually pick mine up every day. Yeah, these

1178
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:17,439
are just Olympus brands and we use a lot of these.

1179
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,640
And the reason we use these is They're easy to mark.

1180
01:11:20,319 --> 01:11:24,479
So if I'm listening and you hear a sound, you

1181
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,079
can just hit the mark button and then later on

1182
01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:30,760
you can just keep hitting that mark button. It'll go

1183
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,840
cycle through every one of them you've marked, so it's

1184
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:39,760
easy to retrieve your your marked audio. And that way

1185
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,760
we put them in and save O our sounds. We

1186
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,199
have hundreds of sounds. Yeah, if I'm listening and I

1187
01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:48,039
hear how I hit the mark button and then I

1188
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:50,760
know that later when I go back and hit that button,

1189
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,960
it'll bring that howl up.

1190
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's cool because it keeps you from having to

1191
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:55,680
listen to hours and hours.

1192
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 4: Yes, if you decide to order one, if anybody wants

1193
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,199
to the company now calls themselves o M. And also

1194
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:07,640
make sure you get one that has index on it.

1195
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 3: On a button. Index is the one that lets you

1196
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,560
mark every spot. It's so much easier. That's it. They're

1197
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,039
pretty pretty cheap awesome.

1198
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,119
Speaker 2: Alex wants to know do you talk did you talk

1199
01:12:21,159 --> 01:12:23,880
to the phantom footsteps? Say hi? Who are you anything?

1200
01:12:25,399 --> 01:12:28,119
Speaker 3: No, but the recording you can hear us talking to

1201
01:12:28,159 --> 01:12:32,359
one another going what is that? What do you have?

1202
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: You know?

1203
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 4: I think you can hear me saying, uh, you know,

1204
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,399
I got the fleer on. There's nothing there, there's nothing there.

1205
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,920
The third guy we were talking about was there was

1206
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,079
in a hammock of sleep and that putstead woke him up.

1207
01:12:45,319 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 3: He said, you hear him. And they're mowing around, going

1208
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,039
what are you guys doing? And we're going work, we're

1209
01:12:51,079 --> 01:12:54,319
following this thing, you know, But no, it's just talking

1210
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:57,920
to one another. We were trying. I'm sure heard us

1211
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,079
because I'm probably yelling I can't see I can't see it.

1212
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. M Chris wants to know if you

1213
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,279
guys have heard the footsteps again.

1214
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: No, No, one time, And you know, I'll make a

1215
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,119
little quick story out of this. One time we were

1216
01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:23,880
in the same spot and we had a one and

1217
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,800
we had a guy with us. He was putting out

1218
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,039
bacon and he had put bacon out on trees.

1219
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: Guy.

1220
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he took a bunch of bacon threw it out

1221
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,720
on tree branches and as we were sitting there that night,

1222
01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:42,079
the big whiff of stink came in And this is

1223
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:44,319
really the first time I'd ever smelt any kind of

1224
01:13:45,079 --> 01:13:51,039
horror bigfoot, and it was horrible, and uh, this is

1225
01:13:51,079 --> 01:13:53,680
in the same spot we heard the footprints. Now, we

1226
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,319
didn't see anything that night, but the stench would have

1227
01:13:56,399 --> 01:13:59,880
just and it would just come in and it'd go away, Yeah,

1228
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:01,760
come in and going. No wind.

1229
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 4: We even lit a lantern trying to see if there

1230
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,640
was any wind at all.

1231
01:14:07,079 --> 01:14:09,359
Speaker 3: There was nothing. We went out the next day thinking

1232
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,680
something that died. You know, there's nothing in there. So

1233
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,600
we were getting a good whiff of him, but he

1234
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,399
didn't make it sound. We didn't hear any footprints that night,

1235
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,039
but yet it was close enough that the odor was

1236
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:26,680
just they just knock you down. But no footprints, no

1237
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:30,399
sounds like that at all. So yeah, I know, I

1238
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,439
wish we wouldn't hear him again, but we didn't.

1239
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:37,520
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Erica wants to know what kind of cameras

1240
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,159
do you use?

1241
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,359
Speaker 4: Every picture you got, we've taken with our cell phones

1242
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:48,560
because we always had that.

1243
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: With them, and you know, everybody, I want to make

1244
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,439
a little point here. Everybody says, you know, you know,

1245
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:59,000
why can't you get a good picture, you know with

1246
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:03,039
all the technology we got. Well, my picture was sixty

1247
01:15:03,119 --> 01:15:05,760
yards away, it was a gray day, and this is

1248
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,720
a color iPhone, right, take a color picture? But the

1249
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,439
picture doesn't look color, doesn't looks black and white, and

1250
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,359
it's just odd that, you know, I know, I understand.

1251
01:15:17,359 --> 01:15:19,840
Picture evidence can be kind of iffy because if it's

1252
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,520
too good, everybody goes, that's faked. It's too good, right,

1253
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,279
And if it's too bad, they go, well, why can't

1254
01:15:25,319 --> 01:15:27,880
you get a good one with the technology we got? So,

1255
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,840
I mean, you're you're kind of damned if you do,

1256
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,720
and damned if you don't. With the picture evident, but

1257
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,439
I'm still going to snap the shot. And we basically

1258
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,239
use our phones.

1259
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 4: We had people all the time comment why don't why

1260
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,920
didn't you get closer? You know, and I always say, well,

1261
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,520
I'm sixty eight years old for a reason. I've got

1262
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,319
common sense.

1263
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm if you ever see these things in real life,

1264
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:57,279
they're big, don't I don't care anything about getting to

1265
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:02,600
know them personally. No, you know, right when you see

1266
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,720
it and it's in front of you and it's you know,

1267
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,199
it looks like a you know, four by eight sheet

1268
01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:12,000
of plywood, that's big.

1269
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, thank you. NW Native Tracker wants to know.

1270
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,880
And this is in regards to the next picture from

1271
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,800
the last video, which you guys can go watch their

1272
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,159
first video and you'll see the nest. What shape was

1273
01:16:26,199 --> 01:16:29,680
the nest and what type of tree limbs.

1274
01:16:30,279 --> 01:16:32,239
Speaker 4: I couldn't even tell you what type of tree limbs

1275
01:16:32,279 --> 01:16:34,760
they were. We were so excited about finding it because

1276
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,960
again this was one thing that took us a year

1277
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,279
to find. We actually had to wait till winter time

1278
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,079
by a drone over the area while there wasn't any

1279
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:47,039
foliage in the trees are on the ground, and we

1280
01:16:47,119 --> 01:16:50,239
found the spots that were dark, it were round, and

1281
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,640
then the spring we went in and we finally found

1282
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,119
the nest. The nest was four foot tall probably on me.

1283
01:16:56,199 --> 01:16:58,920
It was chest high on me, and it was probably

1284
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:03,680
about fourteen feet acrossed and in diameter, probably four king

1285
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:04,479
feet across it.

1286
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 3: When we found it, it was it was just sticks

1287
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,279
all woven together, but in that circle, some of.

1288
01:17:13,239 --> 01:17:17,399
Speaker 4: Them was two to three inches in diameter and long.

1289
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,479
And you can zoom in on the picture and see

1290
01:17:21,319 --> 01:17:23,720
just how how windy they are.

1291
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really wound together big sticks, little sticks

1292
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,880
long like parts of trees even through there. And originally

1293
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:35,359
when it was originally found, it was all green and everything.

1294
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,399
We found it a year later and in the fall,

1295
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,359
everything had died and it was just sticks woven together

1296
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,239
and in the circle. Now all the greenery had died

1297
01:17:44,279 --> 01:17:47,279
off of it, so we gonna be really hard to tell.

1298
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,840
I guess the trees in that area were basically all

1299
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,680
of them are hardwoods. But yeah, it's kind of kind of

1300
01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:01,039
broke off. So yeah, it was a big, big a nest.

1301
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I can actually put the link to your

1302
01:18:04,319 --> 01:18:07,319
per show in the comment section of this of this

1303
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,079
once that people can check that out. And Chris, go.

1304
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:14,199
Speaker 3: Ahead, and that nest the next year, we had a

1305
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:17,520
VFR lady from Missouri and wanted to come and see it.

1306
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:24,039
We took her down there the next spring, and that

1307
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:31,239
nest was totally destroyed, torn apart and slung everywhere you could.

1308
01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:33,119
You could still see the pieces of it, but it

1309
01:18:33,159 --> 01:18:35,000
had been just ripped apart.

1310
01:18:35,279 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 4: And that's the same spot where you showed that picture

1311
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,319
that we had to flear, that's the nest is in

1312
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:44,279
the same woods that took that picture of that creature

1313
01:18:45,279 --> 01:18:46,359
that was squatted down.

1314
01:18:47,239 --> 01:18:49,119
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like it might have fit in that nest.

1315
01:18:49,399 --> 01:18:55,279
It was bib. Chris wants to know do you research

1316
01:18:55,319 --> 01:18:57,960
what type of animals that may be in your area.

1317
01:18:59,399 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we do. I mean occasionally we have a

1318
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,720
bear that will pass through our area. We don't have

1319
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,960
bears that live in southern Illinois, mostly in Missouri, but

1320
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,720
they kind of venture in every once in a while.

1321
01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:20,720
But for the most part, it's just cougar's and there dorodcasts, yeah,

1322
01:19:21,039 --> 01:19:23,920
that type of thing. We really don't have any any

1323
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,640
kind of other big predator outside of a cougar in

1324
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,520
our area that I can that I'm thinking of. We

1325
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,760
had some wild boards, uh now that the board services

1326
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,439
like or somebody's I'll say, somebody is let go. We haven't.

1327
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 4: We have a little bit of that, But I've lived

1328
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,840
in most of my life, so I kind of have

1329
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,880
an idea what you know, everybody down here all my

1330
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:50,640
buddy's hunt.

1331
01:19:51,279 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, stay tuned for more, but that they put for it,

1332
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:56,399
we'll be right back.

1333
01:19:58,119 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 2: Kind of have an idea of what's here right well,

1334
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,800
And that's that's kind of the common theme when it's

1335
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,159
when it's your home area. You know what lives there,

1336
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:07,000
what doesn't live there, what's supposed to be there, what

1337
01:20:07,119 --> 01:20:11,960
is supposed to not be there. So Chris wants to

1338
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,079
know what you run your audio through, if you run

1339
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:17,319
your audio through any type of program.

1340
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 4: Yes, run through pro Tools. And I have a recording studio,

1341
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:27,880
the rock recording studio had today, and I'm and Jim

1342
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,239
have played music together for years, and so since we

1343
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:34,880
already had that, you know, when we started doing the audio.

1344
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,560
When we started we started capturing stuff, we put it

1345
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:41,000
into pro Tools and clean it up best that we can.

1346
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,439
Ye know, uh, cut out some of the stuff so

1347
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,279
you're not having to listen to five minutes to hear

1348
01:20:46,319 --> 01:20:46,800
one knock.

1349
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 3: We'll cut that out. Just get the knock.

1350
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 4: Do that kind of editing and try to get it all.

1351
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,239
The crickets may be dropped down some you know, without

1352
01:20:56,319 --> 01:20:58,880
signal loss. So I do use pro Tools for that

1353
01:20:59,119 --> 01:21:03,239
and and re Le I've kind of switched over to.

1354
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,439
I'm not really sure I like it because it ties

1355
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:07,600
me to my computer a lot.

1356
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,399
Speaker 3: But you know these recorders that I showed earlier, you

1357
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,760
see if they have the USB thing that pops in

1358
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,119
and out of them, right, So if you've got a computer,

1359
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:22,359
you could plug these in, at least the older versions.

1360
01:21:22,359 --> 01:21:25,479
You can plug that in and then run it through Audacity,

1361
01:21:26,399 --> 01:21:30,399
which is a free, free audio program you can get.

1362
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:34,279
And then you know, you could open that file up

1363
01:21:34,279 --> 01:21:37,800
in Audacity and you'll see all the we're all loud

1364
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,119
noises are and then you can just kind of go

1365
01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:43,479
there and listen and you know, so that's another program

1366
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,720
that's pretty good for free programs, really good.

1367
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:52,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Audacity is cool. Troy wants to know, do

1368
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:56,239
you compare sang capture to sounds of non native animals

1369
01:21:56,239 --> 01:21:59,159
that may have escaped from someone or from somewhere.

1370
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 3: Well, I can't say that honestly, that we have compared

1371
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,319
them to the other creatures that's not in our area.

1372
01:22:09,359 --> 01:22:11,800
But like that elk, that sound that you know you

1373
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,560
think might have elk, There are no elk in our

1374
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:19,079
area right If there was, we'd see it strapped to

1375
01:22:19,119 --> 01:22:22,359
the hood of a car down here. It wouldn't last

1376
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,640
very long. They'd be pretty proud of it. That's very long.

1377
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:28,359
Speaker 7: You know.

1378
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 3: We're so far away from I mean where I live

1379
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,960
right now, it's thirty five miles to the closest McDonald's.

1380
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:40,239
Oh wow, yeah, So, I mean there's four thousand people

1381
01:22:40,319 --> 01:22:45,600
in this county, you know, other animals and stuff like so,

1382
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,239
so maybe escape in a zoo or something like that.

1383
01:22:47,279 --> 01:22:48,399
We don't have me in that round here.

1384
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like in the holler.

1385
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah we are, Yeah, this is this is uh, you know,

1386
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,920
I've been to high schools got more people than their

1387
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,039
their county. Well you know, I mean it's it's it's

1388
01:23:01,039 --> 01:23:04,680
really remote and there's really not a whole lot of

1389
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:09,359
people in the area and so but yeah, I mean,

1390
01:23:09,359 --> 01:23:12,760
that's a good idea to just to start comparing stuff

1391
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,840
to other things. I know I have. When I first

1392
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,760
time I recorded a cougar, I wasn't sure exactly what

1393
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,039
it was, but it was doing its mating call thing

1394
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:26,000
and I recorded it and I had never heard that before,

1395
01:23:26,079 --> 01:23:27,880
so I had to go out on the internet to

1396
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,079
try to research what it was, and sure enough, it

1397
01:23:30,119 --> 01:23:34,119
was a It was a cougar calling for a mate, gotcha.

1398
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: And that can kind of sound horrific.

1399
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It's crazy. It's weird sounding. Yeah. Yeah,

1400
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,960
But so I have compared about some things, but really

1401
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:47,000
we should do more of that.

1402
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: Chris wants to know what time of year it was

1403
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,760
when you got the chatter audio.

1404
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,359
Speaker 3: Most of it, I would say, I can't say for

1405
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:01,159
sure of that particular one, but we get the majority

1406
01:24:01,199 --> 01:24:04,039
of our activity in the spring and the fall, and

1407
01:24:04,159 --> 01:24:07,880
I don't know why that is, like right now, I

1408
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,239
have been, honestly, I have been putting out recorders every

1409
01:24:12,279 --> 01:24:15,159
week when it's not raining. Of course it's raining tonight,

1410
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And if it ain't raining, I have a recorder out somewhere.

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01:24:19,399 --> 01:24:25,079
And in the summertime mostly I just get crickets, tree frogs,

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01:24:25,119 --> 01:24:27,279
and and you know, you listen to a whole bunch

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01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:27,720
of nothing.

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01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: Well you know why that is, right, because it's so

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01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,560
freaking hot.

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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then in the fall and in the spring, man,

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01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,800
that's when you get your knox. That's when you get

1418
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,159
all the activity and the hollers and all that kind

1419
01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:43,800
of stuff. So I would imagine it was in the

1420
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:44,560
spring or fall.

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01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 2: Gotcha, NW Native tracker wants to know if that is

1422
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:55,159
that up around twelve hundred elevation or lower. I guess

1423
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:56,960
where the sounds are coming from.

1424
01:24:57,239 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: Well, definitely if they're coming from Site three, they're lower

1425
01:25:00,119 --> 01:25:03,800
because they're right there on the Ohio River. If you

1426
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,840
go up into the Garden of the Gods area, you're

1427
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:14,680
probably getting at least to that elevation. I would say above.

1428
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,680
I guess you're talking about above sea level because we

1429
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,159
have we have bluffs that will be up eight hundred

1430
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:25,760
eight hundred feet you know, up from the ground. But

1431
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,720
I don't know exactly in that area where what what

1432
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,800
the how high above sea level is the ground is?

1433
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:34,279
But I think Joe's trying to look it up. But

1434
01:25:34,359 --> 01:25:37,960
I would say, yeah, easily twelve hundred feet in a

1435
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,560
lot of the areas.

1436
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,319
Speaker 2: Okay, a flat rock. What's that? My friend wants to

1437
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:48,239
know if you guys are getting any good thermal footage.

1438
01:25:50,399 --> 01:25:53,159
Speaker 3: Yes, and no, I mean we outside of the one

1439
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:58,960
he got that you showed here tonight. We were at

1440
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,319
that other guy's Bandy Farm, Bandy Farm into the investigation there,

1441
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,159
and we definitely had got one peeking out around a tree.

1442
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,039
You can definitely see the head and shoulder and actually

1443
01:26:10,039 --> 01:26:13,439
one leg I believe, standing out there kind of on

1444
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,760
the edge of a tree. And uh, you could actually

1445
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,279
tell he was moving too. It was it was going

1446
01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:21,640
in and out. And we do have do we have

1447
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,640
that up on our on our It's on our Facebook page. Yeah, yeah,

1448
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,920
we have, we have that up on our web page.

1449
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,800
It's not the best one, but you can definitely see

1450
01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:35,520
something there picking out around the tree. Whish it was better,

1451
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,399
but yeah, and also, uh, Joe Turrey t U r Y.

1452
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:45,840
He was filming and documentary documentary documentary that night, so

1453
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,880
he got some stuff in that area. Too many farm

1454
01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:51,920
be worth watching and we have links to that on

1455
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,640
our website as well awesome on our Facebook page.

1456
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,399
Speaker 2: And the last question of the evening is from t Roy.

1457
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:02,640
Do you do any gifting?

1458
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:07,399
Speaker 3: We haven't. We haven't personally. One of the one lady

1459
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,800
that we're doing an investigation where I told you she

1460
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,479
was crawling up like this fighter crawling up there, she

1461
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,359
has been gifting there and uh, she puts it in

1462
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,279
like a five gallon bucket with a lid that snaps on,

1463
01:27:21,359 --> 01:27:25,079
and her first gifting thing she had put up some

1464
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:28,720
brownies inside this bucket and then snapped the lid on.

1465
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,039
She went back down there the brownies were going You

1466
01:27:32,039 --> 01:27:35,199
could actually see the fingers where the fingers were going

1467
01:27:35,239 --> 01:27:38,640
through like where the brownie and stuck to the bucket.

1468
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,960
You could see the big fingers going through there. And

1469
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:47,960
she reloaded it. We checked it just last week we

1470
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,239
went out there. We checked her bucket then and uh,

1471
01:27:52,199 --> 01:27:55,319
it hadn't been touched. And it's really interesting to what

1472
01:27:55,399 --> 01:27:57,720
she does. She's really kind of creative. It's on this

1473
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,439
white bucket she draws a picture of a face of

1474
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:06,920
a bigfoot, then draws a picture of the bucket, and

1475
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,000
then she draws a picture of the bucket with the

1476
01:28:09,039 --> 01:28:13,359
lid open, and then she draws a picture of the

1477
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,159
bucket with an arm going in.

1478
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 2: So I mean.

1479
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: She she's given it directions on pictures on the bucket

1480
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:21,800
as it goes around.

1481
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:28,279
Speaker 2: It's it's sluryos the picture drawn instructions. That's the phenomenal. Yeah,

1482
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:29,760
that's phenomenal.

1483
01:28:30,199 --> 01:28:32,520
Speaker 3: So, but we haven't tried it ourselves yet. A lot

1484
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,279
of our a lot of the areas we have are

1485
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:40,239
are I have been using this going in the same

1486
01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:42,399
area all the time, and I have stuck things out

1487
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:46,840
like a little race car for a marble. You put

1488
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,439
out some points at the time and that and that

1489
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,279
site one. I did do that, but it didn't do

1490
01:28:52,319 --> 01:28:56,399
me good. I took a quarter, a nickel, a penny,

1491
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:58,840
and a dime and put them in the crack of

1492
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:03,399
a tree that that had haullen over. It was probably

1493
01:29:03,399 --> 01:29:05,880
about three foot up off the ground and it had

1494
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,159
a split in it, so I could just really push

1495
01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:09,920
the down in there, and I knew something wasn't.

1496
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:14,039
Speaker 4: Gonna pull them out right, and I wasn't even heard

1497
01:29:14,039 --> 01:29:16,680
it go back. I probably didn't go back for three

1498
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,399
months given the time. Just want to see what happened.

1499
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:23,199
And I went back and I couldn't find the lamb.

1500
01:29:23,239 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 3: It was gone coins lamb, there was nothing there, nothing

1501
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,319
where it was. And we put cars out and stuff

1502
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:34,560
like that. I put them out here. They're still there.

1503
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,439
I haven't had any luck with those, So maybe they

1504
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,199
don't like cars. Maybe not.

1505
01:29:39,159 --> 01:29:41,039
Speaker 2: You have to try blue marbles maybe.

1506
01:29:41,279 --> 01:29:44,079
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, or peanut butter or something. I gotta figure

1507
01:29:44,119 --> 01:29:44,640
something out.

1508
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 2: Well, I've had a blast talking to you guys for

1509
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:54,520
an after minutes. I could just talk and talk and

1510
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,119
talk and talk, but please take this time to let

1511
01:29:58,199 --> 01:30:00,600
us know anything and everything you have going on at

1512
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,680
your websites where you might be headed. Absolutely, go ahead

1513
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:05,880
with that.

1514
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1515
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:13,399
Speaker 4: Well, we've got a presentation I think coming up here

1516
01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:19,960
at Harrisburg at their at their Big Food Festival. We

1517
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,239
were supposed to be doing one, uh so don't only

1518
01:30:23,279 --> 01:30:26,159
Big Book conference, but he had some issues this year

1519
01:30:26,199 --> 01:30:30,199
with the building that's been canceled. So right now we

1520
01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:35,800
don't have anything besides that Harsburgh on on our agenda.

1521
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,800
We will say if anybody ever wants us to come

1522
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,560
and do presentations, we'd definitely be in. We love sharing

1523
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,319
what we've gotten and we've got tons of photos and tons.

1524
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 3: Of recordings, so yeah, we descratched the surface. We have

1525
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:54,119
hundreds and hundreds of audio recordings over twelve years, so

1526
01:30:54,159 --> 01:30:56,439
there's you know we've got we just picked out some

1527
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,239
for you, but we've got hundreds of.

1528
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Them, and you know my email is and you know,

1529
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:02,600
get help to me.

1530
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 3: And you know, outside of that, we do have a

1531
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,359
couple of investig current investigations that we're doing, but we

1532
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,319
keep pretty busy, you know, around just just kind of

1533
01:31:13,359 --> 01:31:17,520
doing our own thing. Please stop buy our Facebook page.

1534
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,760
It's the Squatchers and it's spelled th h G s

1535
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:25,199
q w A t c h e r S like

1536
01:31:25,279 --> 01:31:30,479
it says like right there and go there. We put

1537
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,319
a lot of our stuff up there, stuff we find.

1538
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,840
We also do advertising, like well, we're going to be

1539
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,760
on your show, so we put that up and we'll

1540
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,239
share all that kind of stuff. So please make sure

1541
01:31:43,279 --> 01:31:45,520
you stop by and keep up to date with us

1542
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,279
and give us a follow, and everything we put up

1543
01:31:48,319 --> 01:31:50,960
you'll get a chance to see. And and we try

1544
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,199
to be pretty active on it. Actually, Joe's more active

1545
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:57,600
on it than I am. But yeah, please stop buy. Yeah.

1546
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,560
Speaker 2: I think that's how it is. Out of every group,

1547
01:32:00,399 --> 01:32:03,000
one is more active on social media than the other one.

1548
01:32:03,279 --> 01:32:04,239
Speaker 3: He's just better at it.

1549
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Easy, I guy, see, there you go. It equals out.

1550
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:14,399
Oh well, you guys, you're you're a hoot. I always

1551
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,279
I love talking to you guys, and I could just

1552
01:32:17,359 --> 01:32:19,159
talk for I mean, we've been on here for us

1553
01:32:19,239 --> 01:32:23,159
now in forty five minutes. I know it doesn't feel

1554
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:25,000
like it right. All the good ones go by and

1555
01:32:25,079 --> 01:32:27,960
then whatever. It was fun.

1556
01:32:29,279 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 3: Having Thanks for having us.

1557
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,119
Speaker 2: We had a blast, and you guys have a good

1558
01:32:33,159 --> 01:32:34,920
rest of your night.

1559
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

1560
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:41,119
Speaker 1: Thank you, Hey, everybody, thank you so much for checking

1561
01:32:41,159 --> 01:32:45,359
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1562
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1570
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1579
01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 7: Through the woods, the pine trees, sway, shadows long at

1580
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:07,039
it end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering breeze.

1581
01:34:08,079 --> 01:34:15,159
Secrets kept by ancient dreams, dog Man house beneath the

1582
01:34:15,279 --> 01:34:25,119
moon echoes in the silent dune. Tracks weave five but

1583
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:40,760
answers none. A hunt for truth that's just begun. We're

1584
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:47,640
searching past the fire light. Four creatures hidden our sight

1585
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:56,880
in the forest, hardware shadows lay seeking secrets in the twilight.

1586
01:35:03,119 --> 01:35:09,680
Through the fog, a shape did gly skin walker with

1587
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:16,119
eyes so wide, Legends of Oh, we chase to night

1588
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:17,720
in the dark.

1589
01:35:18,359 --> 01:35:20,119
Speaker 3: Our lanterns bright.

1590
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:29,520
Speaker 7: By the creek, quil water spill, whispers wry, the winds

1591
01:35:30,039 --> 01:35:34,840
chill fullest, deep man tails on toll.

1592
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 8: In this land the myths of O.

1593
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:56,520
Speaker 7: We're searching past the fire light full creature's hidden, out

1594
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:04,119
of sight, in the forest dark, where shadows lay, seeking

1595
01:36:04,199 --> 01:36:22,960
seeing Chriss in the twilight break