WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.920 --> 00:00:05.919 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the six hundred 2 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:09.439 and seventieth episode of The Geek First Pod No. Five 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:11.560 seventy Right, yeah, I skipped a whole hundred. It's the 4 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.519 five hundred and seventieth episode of Focus. 5 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:14.919 Yeah. 6 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.320 Yeah, we'll just start going. I am Prometheus trast now, 7 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:19.359 and I'm joined by. 8 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:24.559 I Am the Destroyer of World, Skirkland Patzer and Marcaster Delmass. 9 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:27.640 Yes, generally we haven't guests. We are here to review 10 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:30.280 the news film of Christopher Nolan. It was in his 11 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:34.920 filmography Oppenheimer. We apologize for the few delays that was 12 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.079 all on me and the city of Cologna. If you 13 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:39.679 want those full story, because me and Krimelin have a 14 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.000 good story. After Nime this Sunday, if you want to join, 15 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.280 it's gonna be ten am PST. So it's a nice 16 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:45.960 daytime War one because we know we've done I think 17 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.159 the past three have been ninetien one. So Sunday morning 18 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:51.240 you can either watch along or if you want to 19 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:53.039 join the patroon that's one of our tiers at the 20 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.280 five dollars tier again there and call in and join us, 21 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:57.200 and we always have a good time and it'll be 22 00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:58.600 good because I know a lot of our patrons have 23 00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:00.520 been seeing these movies, so kind of get their opinion, 24 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:03.240 see what's going on. I hope Clay joints because I 25 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:04.920 gotta razzle him about his Barbie review. 26 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.319 My goodness text the text on the discord today, I 27 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:09.640 was like this. 28 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:13.359 In the world. 29 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.599 Yeah, Christmas morning for me when I see that, and 30 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:18.400 I think, June, we we we didn't have one, so 31 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:19.879 this should be a good one. So check out there, 32 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:22.120 go join over there so we'll tell you why they're delayed. 33 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:24.840 But yes, on the feeds right now, Barbenheimer is there. 34 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:28.000 Listen to podcast feeds, so check them both out head 35 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.359 down below for everything you need to know. We're gonna 36 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:33.239 get right into this. It's been a late night, so 37 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.480 we've we've literally reviewed every Christopher Nolan on this so 38 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:38.920 you can go back. I guess I put them all 39 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:40.519 on the feed so you can go check out all 40 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:43.040 the way from following until tenant and then the Batman 41 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.120 ones are somewhere around because we reviewed those at different 42 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:47.200 time a part of the Batman retrospective. But we have 43 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:49.840 reviewed every single Christopher Nolan movie and at the end 44 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.000 we'll hopefully if Kirkles ready give out a new rankings 45 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.799 because we ranked it after Dunkirk. Actually, yeah, we never 46 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.200 did a ranking after Tenant either, So this is two 47 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:00.439 movies in because we never kind of circle back to that. 48 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.000 That was my bat. So let's start with mister must yourself, 49 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:07.599 mister muss himself. I got some sun I'm a little loopy, 50 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:11.080 but yeah, what what did you feel about Oppenheimer? Of course, 51 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.240 if anyone's listening the first time, we do a little 52 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:16.080 overall nonswears or thoughts, and then we'll give you a 53 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.599 little ad break and then we'll get into a spoilers. 54 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:20.400 So you got some time to take a break. 55 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.840 Yeah, this has been an interesting road for me. I'm 56 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:27.240 definitely a Nolan fan, but I wouldn't say he's like 57 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.599 my top director. He's not, like, you know, not on 58 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.360 my top ten favorite films of all times, not just 59 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:34.439 filled with Nolan's, but there's probably one that would sneak 60 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:38.960 in there. But I've also I think my expectations or 61 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:41.319 hype over this we're a little bit lower going in 62 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:44.080 just because of the trailers in the subject matter who 63 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.159 are dealing with like, is not my that's not the 64 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.360 Nolan I'm looking for personally hashtaging out my Nolan hashtag 65 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.960 not my Nolan. And then also you know Tennant and Dunkirk. 66 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.599 I was not super duper hot on those. I think 67 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:59.520 they're they're well made, their solid. I've also never rewatched either. 68 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:02.879 Maybe I've watch Tenant before Golden Geeks, but I'm even 69 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:04.479 a little bit foggy on though. So I think my 70 00:03:04.759 --> 00:03:07.240 high level was going going into this was a bit lower. 71 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:10.840 But yeah, and it was an interesting experience. It's like 72 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.560 it's a very long movie and I never it's like 73 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:15.280 a lot of the content in it, you could say, 74 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:18.000 is quite dry, and there's there's like a lot of characters, 75 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:19.479 like probably more characters. 76 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:21.400 Than there need to be in this that have names 77 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:23.039 and like the whole scenes and stuff. 78 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.280 Yeah, you could probably simplify this movie, but maybe he 79 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.240 wanted it to be very true to like the real 80 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:31.280 world happenings in real older people or something like that. 81 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:34.960 And he cites the book that's nine hundred pages was 82 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:36.919 a big inspiration to him as well, So that's probably 83 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.960 it today's point, like I gotta get this in here, 84 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:40.919 I gotta get this in here, So probably a bit 85 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:41.080 of that. 86 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:43.560 So yeah, there's there's a lot going on, and it's 87 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:46.120 it's a long movie, and it is maybe slower or 88 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.919 dry at certain moments, but somehow I felt like I 89 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.599 was glued to the screen the entire time. I was 90 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.319 like in it from start to finish, and I think 91 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.800 for that first maybe third or so, maybe even half, 92 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.719 I was enjoying it, but not not loving it necessarily. 93 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.039 But then there was something about like that second half 94 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.639 the movie, or the last like two thirds whatever it was, 95 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.159 that like it just kept getting better and better for me, 96 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:12.199 I felt like I was starting to kind of understand 97 00:04:12.599 --> 00:04:15.000 and know who a lot more of these characters were. 98 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.480 And then even just kind of the movie takes a 99 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:19.399 bit of a switch at one point when it stops 100 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.560 being a bit of like, here's the story of what 101 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.519 happened here and more kind of dealing with I guess, 102 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:26.680 i'll say, the trial sequence of it. And then there's 103 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:28.399 a whole lot of stuff going on, and you know, 104 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.839 it's classic Nolan things, So this movie is not linear 105 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.319 from start to finish. There's cutting back and forth and 106 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:35.240 all that. But yeah, I found by the end of it, 107 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:38.759 like the last I don't know, forty five minutes of it, 108 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.160 I feel like was just incredibly solid, and it was 109 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:44.920 really coming together in a way that was really great 110 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.839 for me. There's still some hang ups for me, like 111 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.040 some of those characters we can talk about that, there 112 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:52.920 is some things that I'm confused about. I don't even 113 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:54.600 know if I should admit this. I don't even fully 114 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.519 understand who Robert Downey's character is. 115 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:57.040 Supposed to be. 116 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:59.279 The movie still works, but I felt like I just 117 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:03.360 completely missing some elements of it. Classic Nolan, the fucking 118 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:05.839 audio is so loud you can't hear dialogue, and I 119 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:08.279 felt like that happened for a couple moments that were 120 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.319 very crucial, like plot information, I just could not hear 121 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.439 what was saying. So this movie absolutely needs a rewatch. 122 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.279 But I think my kind of closing here from my 123 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.399 overall thoughts is I want to give so much credit 124 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.519 to I guess the soundtrack from Ludwig Gorenson, who's obviously 125 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.120 been freshing it lately, and then also the editing who 126 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:27.439 Jennifer Lame is the editor on this, because I felt 127 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.879 like those two working together on this just made what 128 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:34.079 could have been a slow or dry or uninteresting movie 129 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.879 like it just fucking flowed so well that editing is 130 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.560 so like, there's so much going on here. Yeah, and 131 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.120 obviously you're going between present day, you're going back in time, 132 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.959 you're going back and forth and all this stuff. But 133 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.199 I felt like the movie just had an insanely good 134 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.639 pace to it that didn't feel like anything was particularly rushed, 135 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:52.920 but there was usually enough time given for me to 136 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.319 fully understand, and you would just like, yeah, sometimes you 137 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:57.319 just skip and you'd be like a couple of years 138 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.560 in the future in terms of where the story's at. 139 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:01.839 It just flowed perfectly, and you don't need like a 140 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:04.279 black screen that says five years later or whatever it 141 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:06.800 is to explain some of these things. And then that soundtrack, 142 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.879 which I feel like is maybe quiet two or three 143 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:12.079 times in the movie, which those moments are very effective, 144 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:16.240 but otherwise it is constantly driving the movie forward, and 145 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:19.279 that pacing and particularly I feel like it gets it 146 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:22.879 starts out quite simple, simplified and maybe more classic Nolanny 147 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:25.000 sort of soundtracks, but then near the end of it, 148 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.040 like there's so many layers that are thrown in there, 149 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.759 and a lot of moments of tension and whatnot that 150 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:31.720 are just so good. So, yeah, it's the editing and 151 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.160 the soundtrack that I think really carried this movie for me. 152 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.240 But overall, I'm feeling very positive on it. But yeah, really, 153 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.360 and I think this is one where a rewatcher two 154 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:42.920 will just make me like it more and more and 155 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.399 appreciate more and understand more of it, where some of 156 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.319 the other Nolan stuff I don't know. I feel like 157 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:51.240 I never fully understand some elements or it doesn't necessarily 158 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:52.560 come together in that way. 159 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.519 So yeah, I'm I'm pretty happy with this one. I 160 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:56.040 really enjoyed it. 161 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.399 It's funny you mentioned this sound design because I think 162 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:00.839 everyone always brings it up. But there's a scene early 163 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.199 in the movie where the score got louder, but like 164 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:07.160 Killian Murph was talking and literally he just got louder randomly, 165 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.959 and I was like, oh, Nolan's like realizing that everything 166 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:12.759 else is loud. But they brought him up loud, so 167 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:15.199 I'm like, Okay, he's gonna make the dialogue really loud. 168 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.160 And then that was the last time it happened. But 169 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.079 because it was really random, unless it was a theater thing, 170 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.519 I'll have to wait to rewatch. But he was talking normal, 171 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:23.240 and then it got really like and he's just in 172 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:25.800 a board room but Yeah, there's especially near the back 173 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.160 after there's a couple where it's like, okay, at least 174 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:30.600 luckily with the way Nolan directs it, I understand the 175 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:32.560 intent of this scene of what he's trying to get across, 176 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:35.279 but still he got Killian yelling and I still can't 177 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.240 hear you know nothing, I'll say ever as bad as 178 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:40.399 John day Washed and Kenneth Brown on that fucking boat 179 00:07:40.439 --> 00:07:44.199 though in TenneT where it's like I don't I don't 180 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.040 hear a single thing. It's like I'm on that boat. 181 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.360 But mister pats Er again by that that the reason 182 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:52.079 we didn't make this review is why you're here because 183 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:53.600 at one point you we're gonna be a lot on review. 184 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.120 But as Dylan said in her discord, some greater force 185 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:58.000 want you to be on this review because you missed TenneT. 186 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.399 You almost missed this. Here we are, you know. 187 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:02.560 No, I'm very happy to be here, so you know. 188 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:04.959 It was an unfortunate evening the other evening, but I 189 00:08:05.120 --> 00:08:07.360 am it led us here, so I'm happy about it. 190 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:09.600 And yeah, to just be here, like at the end 191 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.480 of the Nolan retro too, it's just lots of fun 192 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:14.720 to be just going on that Big Journey. The only 193 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:16.959 one I missed out on was actually Tenant because I 194 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:19.319 didn't see that movie right away in theaters. But yeah, 195 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.279 I just quick brief history if he didn't check out 196 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.600 that Nolan retro. I love Christopher Nolan as director. I 197 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:28.199 feel like all of his movies are just completely up 198 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.560 my alley, with the epic scale oneness of it and 199 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:34.240 just the trippy, mind bendy like twist that he likes 200 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:37.879 to incorporate in his movies, and just like the bending 201 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.879 of sci fi elements into a more grounded story. I 202 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.399 feel like he just does that so well and his 203 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.480 movie like, yeah, just like his movies are just for me, 204 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.440 So I expected extremely high things for this. I feel 205 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.519 like when other people were just like, yeah, you know, 206 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.120 Barbie versus Oppenheimer, Barbie's just gonna sweep it. And I 207 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:56.960 feel like I was just like that one guy, just 208 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.000 like oh yeah, no, Open I mean, Dylan, I know 209 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.639 you're more for Openheimer than Barbie, for sure, but i 210 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.840 feel like I'm just in my friend groups, maybe at work. 211 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.840 And stuff, I'm just like guys Oppenheimer, like this is 212 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:07.480 such a big deal. 213 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:08.159 Even me. 214 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:09.639 I feel like it's more I was just kind of 215 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.600 low on Barbie than I was super duper high on 216 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:12.200 all hinders. 217 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.399 Yeah that's how it worked out, Yeah, exactly. But like 218 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.440 just just the scale of it, and even in like uh, 219 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:20.840 like watching Mission Impossible or whatever it might be, like 220 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:23.559 getting the trailers for Oppenheimer. Every time I got those trailers, 221 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:25.399 I was getting goosebumps on my arms. I'm like, this 222 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:28.440 is gonna be just such an insane movie. So I 223 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.080 had extremely extremely high expectations for this movie, and I 224 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:35.279 will say it, actually, it actually brought my enjoyment down 225 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:36.399 a little bit of it. 226 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:41.399 I know, it's it's shocking for sure, and it's. 227 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:44.080 It's interesting, and I still loved it. 228 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.240 I gotta keep you guessing, gotta keep you guessing. 229 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:49.720 No, but like one hundred percent, because I think it's 230 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.759 ex like it's it's mostly just that that I had 231 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.639 such extremely high expectations for it, and it didn't matter 232 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.399 if it was gonna be about fire ants in Africa. 233 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.519 I feel like just the Nolan stamp on it would 234 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.039 have been enough to just just get me fully invested 235 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:07.879 and one hundred percent just thinking about this movie consistently, 236 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.279 and that hasn't been the case. But like me, saying 237 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:12.240 that it doesn't take away from the quality of the 238 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.840 movie at all. Like, to Dylan's point, it is a 239 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:16.759 very long movie, but I was one hundred percent glued 240 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.120 to the screen the entire time. I feel like my 241 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:23.559 lack of knowledge on the overall details of this historical 242 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.120 event just made me really interested in what was going on. 243 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.360 And yeah, it's a realcod thing with Nolan films. The 244 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.960 talking could be upped a little bit. Maybe I'm just 245 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.679 too reliant on subtitles these days, but there's definitely scenes 246 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:36.320 when I'm just like, Okay, this is just a write off. 247 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.440 I have no idea what they're talking about in this scene, 248 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:42.679 but like, and it's probably is to just how well 249 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.159 each scene was edited together, because I feel like I 250 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:47.480 was still able to really pick up on what was 251 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:51.159 going on, maybe versus to something like Tenant. I feel 252 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:52.440 like the first time I saw that movie, I was 253 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:55.840 very lost at different parts. But I definitely feel like 254 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:58.240 I have a really good grasp of this overall story, 255 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:01.399 at least the way that Nolan hold it. And yeah, 256 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.000 I the editing was phenomenal. The scale and the scale 257 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.919 of it all was was phenomenal. Of the anticipating, like 258 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:11.799 the building of the anticipation in a very epic, intense moment. 259 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.320 I feel like they just did that so well. And yeah, 260 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:15.879 I was at like the edge of my seat multiple 261 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:18.320 times in this movie. And it's not like a it's 262 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:18.600 not like. 263 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:19.320 A big like. 264 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:24.240 Like just big epic movie of like a big war 265 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.440 like like it's mostly just like historical and like just talking. 266 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.120 But I feel like just the u politicking of it 267 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.039 all just got me really really invested. And and just 268 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.600 the way that the actors portrayed it, like Killian Murphy, Oh, 269 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:38.679 I already loved him so much, especially coming off of 270 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:41.000 Shane I watch Peaky Blinders this this last year for 271 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.080 the first time, and he's just such an insanely talented 272 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:47.480 actor and in this one, like, yeah, he just brought 273 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:51.360 so many different levels of like joy but also extreme 274 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.799 like terror and grief, and he's the only person like 275 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.639 portraying that on screen. Obviously tying in with with the 276 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.120 uh like the great sound design around it as well 277 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:02.159 as just whether is I don't know, certain editing of 278 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.879 the scene, like it was just so well done, But 279 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:08.039 I will say my enjoyment factor was just a little 280 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.519 bit lower than I was. I was expecting to, and well, 281 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.480 the first time I watched Tenant, I watched it again 282 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:15.240 the next morning, like I just couldn't wait. I had 283 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:18.440 to had to rewatch it right away because like I like, 284 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.320 I really liked it, but I just want to understand 285 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:21.559 it more. I want to like it more than where 286 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:23.639 I am, and I feel like with Oppenheimer, it's not 287 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:26.600 gonna be the most rewatchable, just purely for it a 288 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:27.360 movie movie. 289 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:29.039 Yeah, purely for. 290 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.960 The length and just the dryness of certain scenes, Like 291 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.759 I feel like I won't really put this on for 292 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:38.519 a particular scene, whereas I don't know, like I could 293 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:40.799 list a couple of different scenes from from various Nolan 294 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:43.159 movies where I would just put it on, for like Interstellar, 295 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:44.440 Like I feel like I would just put it on 296 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:47.440 for like when they're actually in like space around the 297 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:51.559 like the the black hole event, and just like certain 298 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:53.600 sci fi type sequences. I feel like I would just 299 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:56.200 want to watch that, But I don't know, I don't 300 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.039 think I really have that right now with this movie 301 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:02.840 and with it for example, like I enjoy that movie 302 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:05.080 the more I watch it. I've seen it maybe four 303 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.360 times now, and it's like significant jumps up like I 304 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:10.279 feel like I just noticed or pick up something, or 305 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:13.360 just really appreciate the attention to detail on a particular scene. 306 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:15.919 And I'm sure this movie has those moments littered throughout 307 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.360 because Nolan is just he likes to bring that in 308 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.960 his movies, and so I'm sure that will be the case. 309 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.000 But I just need a little cool downbreak, And I 310 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:28.639 should preface too, like I did do the Barbenheimer combo. 311 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.440 So I watched Barbie first, and so by the end 312 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:33.279 of Oppenheimer, like I had been sitting in like the 313 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.919 exact same theater seed for like four hours. Maybe that 314 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.840 was kind of, you know, diminishing some of it where 315 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.039 I'm kind of getting a little wiggly, my butts getting sore. 316 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.960 So there is probably exterior factors to bring down my 317 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:44.720 overall enjoyment. 318 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:45.840 But again, it didn't. 319 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.240 It didn't diminish my ability to just like appreciate the 320 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.279 quality of what was on screen, because yeah, they absolutely 321 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:55.519 killed it all. The acting was just so top notched. 322 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:58.360 There's so many talented people in this movie, and. 323 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.480 It feel like, advertise, yeah, this person's in the movie. 324 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.159 Okay, cool, No, absolutely, And I was just like shocked 325 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.919 by seeing certain characters in there, and I think they 326 00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:10.120 just were all really really top tier, and yeah, I 327 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:12.440 really really appreciate. 328 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:14.120 The just the story that that was told. 329 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:17.360 But yeah, I'd be lying if I said it didn't 330 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.279 just like leave a super impressive. 331 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.039 Like even too much. 332 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.679 Yeah, even though paying it too much, it just didn't 333 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:29.000 hit the bar for enjoyment factor that I thought it would. 334 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:31.840 It met the quality level for sure, but I don't know, 335 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:34.879 may it was expected a bigger bang or whatnot, or maybe. 336 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:38.720 I don't know, something bank the world's Biggest Bang. 337 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:43.320 That's like a Ron Tomatoes negative critic right there, not 338 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.480 the biggest bang movie, you know, like they'd take that. 339 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:50.039 It's funny. I think we kind of all have that 340 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:51.840 with Norlan movies because I think either all of us 341 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.279 like love him or respect him. I think because that's 342 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.039 the way I was with Interstellar, right Like I was 343 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:58.720 so excited and it just didn't match it. But then 344 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.039 that's my tenet where I just we watched about two 345 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:02.360 weeks ago and for the first time I was like 346 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:04.000 I could maybe give this one a perfect score, where 347 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.159 in the past I haven't. So it's it's one of 348 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.759 those And I'm much like Dylan where so like I'll 349 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.759 see love the TDK trilogy. You gun Inception, you got Prestige, 350 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.159 and then after that, that's when you get Interstellar. And 351 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:16.679 at the time I said I wasn't mixed. I was 352 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:18.200 still very high in it, but I was not like 353 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:23.279 I had Batman, Beginn's Prestige, Dark Knight and Interception four Row. 354 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:26.240 I'm like, all these are best, Like they're all of 355 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.159 my best of movies stuff like that, so it's tough 356 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.399 on an Interstellar didn't match that bar. And then you 357 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.759 got Dunkirk Intent, which are very well made, but I 358 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.639 don't return back to too many times. Especially Dunkirk I've 359 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:38.919 only seen twice, and even when I was rewatching all 360 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:40.720 the Nole movies this summer, I didn't get a chance 361 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:42.919 to all of them. But yeah, I was even like, ah, 362 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.159 I left Dunkirk last. I was watched them at order, 363 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.320 but I skipped don Kirk to get to Tenet because 364 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.120 like I like Dunkirk, it's all well made, but I 365 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:52.120 don't find myself having to return to it. So since 366 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.399 and even Dark Knight rises, which I can still go 367 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:57.320 and say, yeah, that's definitely the weakest of the series. 368 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.879 Since Inception, I haven't felt like Okay, this is a 369 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.159 ten at ten across the board, and I think I 370 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.480 said it had a similar and like high level as 371 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.519 far as Dylan. Like when they announced he was making 372 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:08.720 a movie about the creation the bomb, I was like, 373 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:10.720 I don't care about this. I'll see it because it's Nolan, 374 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:12.559 but I don't care about any of this. I'm not 375 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:15.919 a history buff. I'm always looking more like if there's 376 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:17.799 something I want to learn from history, that's stuff I 377 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:19.639 seeked out. But that's not much for me. I'm not 378 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:22.120 a war buff. I'm not a historian buff. So I'm 379 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:23.960 the same as Dylan where this movie happens, like, hey, 380 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.480 I got a Wikipedia. Who's Lewis Strauss? Like, oh okay, 381 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:29.320 like the history I know is a little from school, 382 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.240 and then movies I've won to see. But it's Nolan. 383 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.279 So I checked it out and I thought it was 384 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.840 gonna be similar to Dunkirk, but no, I absolutely love 385 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.919 this movie. I think you could make it argument that 386 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:40.919 his best movie ever. I would never say it's my 387 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.840 favorite because this wouldn't like it's just my likes. I 388 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:46.080 wouldn't put this past Inception or past The Dark Knight, 389 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.279 like those are things that one they've been around long, 390 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.519 but I just like that concept. There's two Nolan's right, 391 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:53.320 there's always the like, you look at what he's done. 392 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.360 He did Dark Knight Rises and it was or sorry, 393 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:59.360 actually it was Interstellar spacey than Dunkirk, and then Tenant 394 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:01.879 and then another history one. Right, So if we go 395 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.200 on pattern, I would imagine the next one's probably gonna 396 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:06.720 be a bit more high concepts. So usually when he 397 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:08.920 gets on that cap, I go, oh, I like that. 398 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.359 No one but don't love it. But yeah, you guys 399 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:14.440 already talked about it. It's definitely too like Ludwig's best 400 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:16.759 work because there's so much score in this movie, like 401 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:20.920 so much. It's not like there's there's definitely quiet moments 402 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:24.400 in this movie, but there's more moments of score than 403 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.359 there is of quietness, and that's usually not how it 404 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:29.039 happens in movies usually, and even just scenes where they 405 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:33.000 are talking about, you know, they see a certain newspaper headline, 406 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.480 Ludwig is going hard and he's making like I would 407 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:37.279 love to see what this movie would be like if 408 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:39.680 you take the score out. I feel like my score 409 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.359 would drop dramatically. And that's not to say a bad 410 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:44.319 thing about the movie itself. That's just like how good 411 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.319 Luck Wig was because if you don't have that in there, 412 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.079 it's gone. So that was very, very impressive. Like when 413 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.039 we get the Golden Geeks, that's like a bullet for me. 414 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.240 I get it because it's just and he could tell like, 415 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.799 that's such an impressive guy, like since he I know 416 00:17:57.880 --> 00:17:59.480 he'd done work before, but I think he got an 417 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:02.519 art like Radar when Black Panther came out and he 418 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:04.559 did that. He did Manalor, and he's done other things 419 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.480 where just this guy always gives up quality. So that's 420 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.279 a big thing. The scope, the cast, Killian. It's great 421 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.200 to see him in this leading role because you look 422 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.599 at Nolan's career, He's been in so many Inception Begins, 423 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:18.799 Dunkirk where he has an important role, but it's always 424 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.279 that role. It's like it has twenty five minutes too, 425 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:23.079 you know, it's always that cap. So it's great to 426 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:25.279 see him have this performance. I'm really happy the Box 427 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.480 Off is like Nolan's biggest movie ever rather than the 428 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:32.160 Batman movies, so that's great. Yeah, I was surprised about 429 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:34.400 the pacing. It didn't bug me in all the three 430 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.119 hours at the beginning, I thought there was stuff, Oh, 431 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.240 maybe is this needed? Could you cut it? But as 432 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.119 it went along with no, actually that is need. If 433 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.440 it's even little stuff went okay, that served towards the 434 00:18:45.559 --> 00:18:48.279 plot and the story. Even same thing. I thought it 435 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.079 was gonna be like Dunkirk, where Dunkirk has that time 436 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:53.079 thing where something's are happening in the past and present, 437 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:54.920 and that's a movie. Where I watched Dunkirk, I go, 438 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.480 this is a movie that didn't need like Nolan's time trickery. 439 00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:59.279 It could have just been straightforward and maybe would have 440 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.359 been better where this one. I think it worked really well, 441 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.440 especially the shifting of certain dynamics. And I'd say maybe 442 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:11.000 with Robert Downey character that the timeline messing really works 443 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:13.880 with his character. And that's another thing killing down He's 444 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:15.279 great in here. It's not that he hasn't be great 445 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:16.640 in the MCR other stuff he's been in the past 446 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.240 few years, but he just knocked out of the park 447 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:21.359 every scene he's in there, even when he's not talking. 448 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.640 His facials. Man, it's great to see Downy in this, 449 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:26.920 and it's a role I made. There's a few comedic beats, 450 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:31.319 but he is not that down he completely falls into 451 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:35.079 the role. So that's great. All the practical stuff is great, 452 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.119 The ending is great when it's really wrapping up to 453 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:40.039 this creation. There's one scene in here that's gonna stick 454 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.240 with me for years. There's it's like almost horror esque 455 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:46.480 and I just loved it, and yeah, I it's one 456 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:48.799 of these things that I will run out of words 457 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:50.519 to talk about and I love. There's just certain things 458 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:53.480 that it is Nolan, but it feels like a step 459 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:57.279 up With some directors they find they find a level 460 00:19:57.359 --> 00:19:59.480 and you can always tell that's you can still tell 461 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:01.880 us is Norlan movie, but they maybe don't do anything different. Right. 462 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:04.640 There's times where these black and white scenes. They're shooting 463 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.079 these scenes very almost like hell hand camera. They're not 464 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:10.240 using that. I'm guarantee you. Nolan has this huge camera 465 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:12.000 and it's on a thing, but they're moving in away 466 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:13.599 where it looks like it's going back and forth that 467 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:15.759 it's in the room. That's not a Nolan thing. Nolan's 468 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:18.680 are usually just straight actors going and that's it. And 469 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.720 on the scenes, so they're like having claustrophobic scenes going on. 470 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:23.640 It doesn't even have to do with the bomb. It's 471 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.319 just with these characters having emotions and yeah, like you 472 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:28.680 get guys said, the cast is stacked and everybody. There's 473 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.119 a lot of actors that are only in here for 474 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.880 ten fifteen minutes, but it's very strong ten or fifteen minutes. 475 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:36.559 And yeah, it's one that I think even more so 476 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:38.400 when I watch it is definitely a mood one. It's 477 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:40.200 not like Inception that I could watch it every day 478 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.480 of the week. I can't watch Oppenheimer every day in 479 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:45.960 the week from a mood standpoint, but from a technical standpoint, 480 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:48.599 I think it's Nolan at the top of his game, 481 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.640 and I, uh, you know, and that's where I guess. 482 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:52.000 For me, it was revers a Kirk and where I 483 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:54.240 went in other than last week, I was like lower 484 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:57.680 expectations of Okay, I was, you know, I'm excited because 485 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:58.920 it's Snolan, but I didn't think it was gonna be 486 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.880 this and h yeah, it was quite a great one. 487 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:07.480 So there's anything else to uh talk about non spoilers. 488 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:10.200 On the non spoilers side, not for not much much 489 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:10.440 for me. 490 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.519 I don't think, Dylan, how was your showing? Was it 491 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.160 just packed? I was curious to ask your theater. 492 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.039 I think it was and in fact, I didn't have 493 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:20.799 the best seat because I was kind of late to 494 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:22.759 get my tickets, not because I knew I was gonna go. 495 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.000 I guess I just didn't think about it well enough 496 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:26.759 in advance. But yeah, because of that, most of the 497 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:29.160 most of it was grabbed up, and I think except 498 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.839 for maybe like some couple spots in the front row 499 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:34.039 or two, it was it was packed for sure. 500 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:36.519 I was pretty shocked just across the board for the 501 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:40.759 weekend honestly, like Thursday, Friday, Saturday night showings for both 502 00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.920 Barbie and Oppenheimer were like actually just sold out. Like 503 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:46.079 it's like, you know, there's the front row. I say 504 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:47.960 sold out with like air quotes because it's like, yeah, 505 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:50.279 they got the front row, I guess. But yeah, like 506 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:52.240 the main chunk where you would want to get your 507 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:53.920 seats were just completely sold out. 508 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:55.519 And then I had gotten. 509 00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.799 Because I, yeah, I watched Barbie and Oppenheimer Saturday day. 510 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.680 Barbie was at eleven and then Oppenheimer's at two, and 511 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:05.400 like I got them on Friday night or during the 512 00:22:05.480 --> 00:22:08.480 day on Friday, and like there was some seats taken 513 00:22:08.559 --> 00:22:10.359 for sure, but I was definitely one of the earlier ones. 514 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:12.240 But by the time everyone showed up for the showing, 515 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:14.920 it was like completely packed on like a matinee showing. 516 00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:16.200 I'm like, man, I thought this was gonna be like 517 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.480 the Safe Spot, so I was I was very shocked 518 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:20.839 to just again it's like, oh yeah, this used to 519 00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:23.559 be what movies were like like on release before COVID, 520 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:25.599 you know, like a long time ago. So it's it's 521 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.720 crazy just the power that these these two movies have 522 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:30.559 for the weekend. I'm curious how long that's gonna last 523 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.200 because even like the ten o'clock showing for Oppenheimer, like 524 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.680 you're gonna get out at like one, maybe one thirty 525 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:37.359 depending on previews, and it's. 526 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:40.000 Just completely sold out. Like that's that's so in my 527 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:41.000 mind unheard of. 528 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:42.519 I want to do it like a bread and Butter 529 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.079 or something, maybe even talking about an afroninm but just 530 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.599 like how much this has exploded. Yeah, we should two 531 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:51.160 movies because it's a really interesting kind of phenomenon here. 532 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.839 It's like it's an event more than just two movies releasing. 533 00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:55.839 Yeah, oh yeah, and it's like the both of them, 534 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:58.640 like they just a week ago Oppenheimer was going in 535 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.559 with a forty million projection and like literally doubled it. 536 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:04.680 Barbie was like at a ninety biggest open year beat Mario. 537 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.599 It's just it's crazy like these crowds because my Oppenheim 538 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.079 one was packed for pretty much in the first two roles. 539 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:12.920 We're gonna go see Barbie on Monday, but I looked 540 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:14.599 at tickets. We couldn't because the girls, I'm see it, 541 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.119 that's all like they're all sold, like three pm showings 542 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.400 are sold. I'm like, who's working right now like these? 543 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:23.359 But yeah, it's interesting. I love it because it's you know, 544 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.160 it's it's funny, like I feel like the last few 545 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:28.200 bigger movies we went to, like India Impossible, where like 546 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.160 there's people, but it's not that like that packed house, 547 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.000 and both of these were. So it's an interesting time. 548 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.640 So Clay Well a few calls for the chat Forgether 549 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.079 my only proms boyd Holbrook was not being in No 550 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:42.759 No One. We'll do something with them one day Long 551 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.400 Live a Talking Drama. Killing it at the box off 552 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.799 was absolutely Julia says Julia. Sorry, my heart was pounding 553 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:51.079 for the Trinity scene. I think we'd all agree there 554 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.279 when we get into it. No, he's always the best 555 00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:56.240 at the time, the clicking like making you fix something, 556 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:58.559 thing's gonna happen, and then the score was phenomenal. Did 557 00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:00.880 not fill the run team either, says and Maddy has 558 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:03.119 a question or a Patreon question that we'll get into 559 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:05.480 after the spoiler break here. So yeah, if you haven't 560 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.400 seen the movie, get out of here. It'll be sitting here. 561 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:08.799 So we'll take our first break and then we'll be 562 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:12.880 right back talking about So we'll be back, and we're back. 563 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:14.920 So we kind of touched upon. But Manny had two questions. 564 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.720 One is, do you have a favorite performance? So do 565 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:19.240 you have an m VP of this movie of the actor? 566 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.200 You know, Killian was great, you know, Dan was great, 567 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:23.920 Blunt was great, Like she's not end that much, but 568 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:26.880 my gosh, really good scene. So Curtly you got an MVP. 569 00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.720 I Yeah, I feel like I would have to pick 570 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:33.359 Killian just because he is the lead, has the most 571 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:36.319 most time on screen, and I just was already like 572 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:40.079 just loving him so much from his previous Rouk specifically 573 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.559 Peaky Blinders, just like seeing where like the levels that 574 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.599 he'd reach in that, and it it's like, I know, 575 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.240 that's like a like a great perform a great role 576 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:51.559 that he got for the role of Thomas Shelby in 577 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:53.960 Peaky Blinders. But I feel like in my mind it's 578 00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.240 just like, uh, that was like a trial run for 579 00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.599 like this, because there's so many emotions that that character 580 00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:01.000 has that's like so similar to what he was shown 581 00:25:01.039 --> 00:25:04.039 in Oppenheimer here of like being that cocky guy moments, 582 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:07.519 but also just like almost PTSD or like just like 583 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.279 that super anxiety moments that he has. So I would 584 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:13.720 have to pick him, but my, my, my number two 585 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:16.000 shiny star, I would actually have to pick Emily Blunt 586 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:19.680 just for like the sheer, sheer sorrow and dread that 587 00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:23.519 she shows throughout this movie. Like I did not spect again, 588 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:25.839 like I don't know anything about like the historical facts 589 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:27.759 of these movies, but man, I was not expecting her 590 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:31.599 character to be like that, just so so like damaged 591 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:34.200 in just trying to balance like the mother life and 592 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.400 just all the stress of what's going on with her 593 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.720 husband and just just her life. Sent Like she just 594 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.960 showed so much pain in moments, but also a lot 595 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:46.319 of strength and being like a real good, like solid 596 00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:50.279 foundation for Oppenheimer because like everything that he's going through 597 00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.240 and then he has this like pillar of support next 598 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.279 to him that is also going through her own her 599 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:57.680 own issues and stuff. So yeah, I was just shocked 600 00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:01.680 by the few screen time, the few the short amount 601 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.200 of time that she was on screen. It was just like, 602 00:26:04.279 --> 00:26:06.920 I was just totally blown away by her performance of 603 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:08.799 even if she isn't saying anything, if it's just in 604 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:11.240 the back, but just showing like so much pain in 605 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.000 a particular moment, you know, she's in an interviewing and 606 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.359 picturing her husband screwing some other chick. 607 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:18.400 It's just it blew me away. 608 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:20.119 I I feel like I haven't seen that Emily, that 609 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:23.079 side of Emily Blunt and maybe ever honestly, I've only 610 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:24.960 seen a handful of things with her, but yeah, I 611 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.359 was totally blown away. 612 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:28.920 Yeah. Man, that scene when she's going back and forth 613 00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.160 with Jason Clark at the end, which Dylan remember Jason 614 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.680 Clark because remember there's you saw him in one movie 615 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:36.119 and you're like, I've never seen this guy and anything 616 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.000 else like it, and it was like a really bad movie. 617 00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:40.000 I couldn't remember what it was. But then I was like, oh, 618 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:41.720 he's an apes in this You're like, no, I've never 619 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.920 see he's look at him again, I think he's this 620 00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:44.440 guy that tilm. 621 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.240 I recognize him now from like pet Cemetery, even though 622 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:47.920 I never watched it. 623 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:51.960 I couldn't remember when we're watching them. When I was 624 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.680 watching the movie, I'm like, oh, man, where is he from? 625 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:55.359 Where is he from? 626 00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:57.119 And then when I looked at his IMDb and he 627 00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.440 didn't have that big old wig or maybe that's his 628 00:26:59.480 --> 00:26:59.960 actual hair. 629 00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:00.920 It's sexual hair. 630 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.880 Yeah, Okay, well, good job he really grew that out. Yeah. 631 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.279 Without that, it's like, oh yeah, that Sam takeout. But 632 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:07.279 I do remember those memes. 633 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.519 Yeah, check out me and Briggs of review that somewhere 634 00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:11.920 down the line. But yeah, that scene with her, her 635 00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:14.160 and Jason Clark was like this toe to toe of 636 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:16.880 him just trying to man on her and just trying 637 00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.039 to be like overpowering, kind of make her seem like 638 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.039 an idiot, and man, she's just throwing questions back. It 639 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.920 was the delivery of it. She I like her in 640 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:26.839 the entire movie because, like you're saying, Kirk, when that 641 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.720 character has to kind of be a shield for Oppenheimer 642 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.640 and take a law of the you know, raise the kids, 643 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:34.920 worry about the home life. So that's why when he's 644 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.039 which I get it, you know, of course his ex 645 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.119 wife ends up dead and he's freaking out. I love 646 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:40.480 that she just kind of gets like, you don't get 647 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.759 to do this, Like you you're the most important man here. 648 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.680 My life is kind of messed up right now because 649 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.799 I'm just supporting you. You got to pull your shit 650 00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.000 together because I got these two kids, I got an 651 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:53.279 alcohol problem. People know, you're sleeping around with other people here, 652 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.920 like everything bad. And it's a very classic That was 653 00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.000 how marriage was back in the day, right It was 654 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.319 more of a it was more of a no. I 655 00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.240 won't say for everybody, but there's a lot of marriages 656 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.160 back in the day that were more in agreement and 657 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:07.480 not like an arrangement. But just like it wouldn't matter 658 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:08.960 if your husband was chooting on you had to stick 659 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.519 by your husband. It wouldn't matter this. It's like divorce 660 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.640 was back then seen as a terrible thing. You would 661 00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:16.920 be like shutned upon, like, oh, you've been divorced. So 662 00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.720 I think she did a good job of even though 663 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.559 at times that character I don't think I like the 664 00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:23.640 character because there's stuff with the kids. You're like, oh, 665 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:25.240 this is you know, but that's where it's like this 666 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.200 all these characters have these fine lines, yeah, good ones 667 00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:30.279 to shout out, so done anything on bloot Well yeah, 668 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:30.599 go ahead. 669 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.000 Yeah, I mean I want to talk more about her 670 00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:36.839 because I feel like that's maybe one of my acting 671 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:37.200 is good. 672 00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.680 I agree with you guys. My weak point would maybe 673 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:41.680 be on the character writing of it. 674 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:43.759 And it's a tricky thing right where I you know, 675 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.319 I guess maybe disclosure for all of us, Like I 676 00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:47.599 don't think any of us really know any of these 677 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.839 people's like actual history or life, right, so we're basing 678 00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:52.960 it off of like, Okay, there was a book written 679 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.799 about this stuff, and now we're basing on like Nolan 680 00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:57.640 reading that book and then like you know, you know, 681 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.480 there's this perspective yeah, yeah, exactly, So who knows what 682 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.759 this actual person was? Like I really have no idea, 683 00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.680 but so maybe she was just a terrible person. But 684 00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.319 to me, like you know, between the the cheating element 685 00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.720 of it, between like abandoning their kid and then like 686 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.839 having more kids later on, and then like yeah, when 687 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:18.839 she's supposed to be watching a kid, like just being 688 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.400 kind of incoherently drunk and completely ignorant. Like, to me, 689 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.119 I felt like there was so much thrown on her 690 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.720 to make her seem like such a bad person that 691 00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.319 I don't think I really ever had that side of 692 00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.799 like sympathy, like under I understand that it's a difficult 693 00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:34.079 situation to be put in, but I maybe there could 694 00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.880 have been another scene or two that showed more about her. 695 00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.680 But you know, it's tricky thing because this is so 696 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:40.519 he was called Oppenheimer, and you know, it's not about 697 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:41.880 the other Oppenheimer's about. 698 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:43.880 Robert, like it's about this one Appenheimer. 699 00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.720 It's his story. It's everything circles around him. But I 700 00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:48.960 think she could have used a little bit more developing 701 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.519 the other side of things, unless you know, truly she 702 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:53.799 is just not a good person and that's what we're doing. 703 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.599 But I agree that I always want to call it 704 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.200 the trial, but what would call that meeting? Because it's well, 705 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.400 they always saying that it's not a trial, but it's 706 00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.400 that it's a. 707 00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.240 Lot like it. 708 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.559 It's like a I can't hearing or something. 709 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.720 Yeah, it is that hearing scene, close hearing, close hearing 710 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:15.799 because the room. 711 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.680 Yeah, we get definitely the highlight scene for her. Every 712 00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:22.400 line she's snapping back like it was, you know, sixteen 713 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.960 years ago, I had that card seventeen, he starts talking 714 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.119 eighteen years, she like keeps cutting him back to him. 715 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:29.599 I really liked that whole sequence. I thought that was 716 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:31.640 that was really good from her. So yeah, I think 717 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.759 I just maybe wanted a bit more of that other 718 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.160 side of the character if it if it existed, and 719 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:37.559 even if it didn't, I think that would be a 720 00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.680 good thing that you could fudge the reality of it 721 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.920 a bit and add a couple of scenes here or 722 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.400 there to maybe add a bit more to the sympathy 723 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.119 side of her. But it sounds like you guys didn't 724 00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.839 really have that particular issue with the character. 725 00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.240 No, I didn't. I was like, it's kind of not 726 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:54.000 open him was as bad. But I feel like he's 727 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.359 also a character that's in gray. You know, he's very selfish. 728 00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.039 He makes a lot of greedy moves, And that's where 729 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.440 I guess for me, it was more that I was 730 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.400 buying their partnership more than her being a great person. 731 00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:07.480 Because I with Oppenheimer, I feel I feel that not 732 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:09.799 that he's not great. It's hard because it's you know, 733 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.400 you don't know the story, but from the way this 734 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.880 movie presents them, I wouldn't say he was a bad person. 735 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.200 But I feel like he was a regretful person and 736 00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.640 there was maybe a great person in there, but he 737 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.279 repressed it all too for the work, right, that was 738 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.119 always the work had to be done. So that so 739 00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.319 it's like, you can't even if someone is a great 740 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.119 person beneath, if they're not a great person on the outside, 741 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.960 you can't. You can't give them that right. It's like, oh, well, 742 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.119 my intention was this. It felt like maybe more down 743 00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:36.359 the line and we'll get into the close tearing. There's 744 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.240 certain things maybe that character did in this movie to 745 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.119 try to push that forward of a not a bad person. 746 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:42.599 But that's why I guess it didn't affect me that 747 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:46.079 both these maybe all these characters, I don't know if 748 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:48.240 there's a single character in here that doesn't have a 749 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:51.359 shade of great because you're dealing with the army, a war, 750 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.440 and a weapon of mass genoside. I'm just trying to think, 751 00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:55.319 I there's anybody. 752 00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.880 What about Rammy Mallock's character, I don't even remember. Yeah, 753 00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.960 mister Hill, Sure, he's just there to expose the truth. 754 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.519 These are just taking notes. Yeah he's a nice little and. 755 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:09.319 Maybe yeah and maybe yeah, and maybe all then Aaron 756 00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:11.720 Rays character too, where the second he learns what's really 757 00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:14.119 going on, he shifts right away, which you go, okay, 758 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.039 good guy right there. But yeah, that's that's I guess 759 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:17.599 where I didn't have a problem, where I was fine 760 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.319 with From a selfish point of view, I feel like 761 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.480 both both the children were probably mistakes to me the 762 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:26.799 way the movie proposed that because they got together and 763 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.359 she was pregnant already and they had to go get 764 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.759 her divorce just so they get married. So I feel 765 00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.519 like in her vision it was gonna be her and 766 00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.319 Oppenheimer against the world, But then it was, well, you 767 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:37.759 don't get to really be a part of the journey 768 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.599 because you're pregnant, and then maybe another kid, and now 769 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.799 you're kind of secluded back there, and even more times 770 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.200 for him to go have affairs, because you guarantee when 771 00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.160 he gets home and he's stressed and she's drunk dancing 772 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:50.960 and there's a baby crying, they're probably not having a 773 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.319 big romantic life now, right, And that those horse rides 774 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:56.039 they used to do together, they only do that one 775 00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.519 other time when he's freaking out about his ex wife 776 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.240 in the movie, So even that time when they to 777 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.880 be alone is not Greace I guess there was one 778 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.359 more in the middle, but that was after they dumped 779 00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.240 the kids. So it's like, this isn't really a romantic thing. 780 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.720 This is literally in that conversation all parts like, oh, 781 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.799 we're terrible people, and she's like, oh, I don't know, 782 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.039 you know, it's just the cars are doubts. So yeah, 783 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.640 I have great performance, but yeah, not the not the 784 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:20.039 greatest person, you know. It's uh, you know what about you? 785 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.200 Well, yeah, character wise other than that, like I don't know, obviously, 786 00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.559 killing Murphy is is the star is the beasknees. He 787 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.279 gets the most content, and I feel like he gets 788 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:32.359 the most on that on that side of you know, 789 00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.079 everyone being kind of in that gray area. 790 00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.440 He gets a lot of content on either side. 791 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.559 He gets to do a lot more acting than other 792 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:42.279 characters who are generally more flat characters but are still 793 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.200 you know, effective for what they're trying to be in here. 794 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:45.880 So I mean, I guess I would just shout out 795 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.359 Florence Pugh as well, who gets to do some pretty 796 00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.400 emotional stuff in here, and she's always great, so that's 797 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.599 not a surprise for all all the Pew boys here, 798 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.960 so oh it's to her, But yeah, I feel like, honestly, 799 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.000 other than Killing Murphy, like you know, spoiler when Golden 800 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:00.920 Geeks coming around, like no one else is getting known. 801 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.319 For me, like it's it's Killian Murphy and that's that's 802 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.079 it from this movie. 803 00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:05.559 And I don't really have like I don't think there's 804 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.759 a problem with that because it's about him, you know, 805 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:10.639 it's all He's He's at the center of that solar 806 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:11.639 system of this movie. 807 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.400 Yeah, for me, like it is Killian, But I think 808 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.760 why will point out because I know people go because 809 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.119 he's the main star. I feel like there's many movies 810 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:21.039 we reviewed over these eight years where someone canna have 811 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:22.679 the ball of screen time, but that's not who you're 812 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.119 talking about. You walk away like, oh, but this performance 813 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:27.639 going on, you know, so it's killing easy. Yeah, I 814 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.320 think he's a goal. Like to me, it's like we'll 815 00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.920 have to see. To me, he's like a goal, like 816 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.159 we got a six five months left, but he's like 817 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:36.159 my bullet point, Like this is my vote. I don't 818 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:37.840 know how else I can go anywhere else right now. 819 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.400 I have to look at the whole paper when we 820 00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.239 get there. So great performance. But yeah, for me, it 821 00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.280 was like I talked about nun Swarbs was Downy. I 822 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.679 really loved his scenes, and it was the editing as well, 823 00:34:46.719 --> 00:34:48.920 because when we meet him, he seems like such a 824 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.800 nice character. And I think it's because we've seen shades 825 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:55.519 of it, but Downy hasn't worked these He's always the 826 00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.280 likable asshole, right, and there's maybe a shade of it 827 00:34:58.360 --> 00:35:00.400 here and there. But I love at the and when 828 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.840 everything is going to shit Whin he looks like he 829 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:05.239 has in the bag and it's like, oh, yeah, it's 830 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.199 the trial, it's gonna go fine, we'll get you vote, 831 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.119 we'll get you on the whatever it is, the a 832 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.519 sea in the house or whatever they're going for, and 833 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.679 he has this reputation and I love again it's the 834 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:16.719 editing where the first scene we seen of him, Oppenheimer 835 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.559 seems pretty friendly. He's wanted to introduce him with alb Ryinstein. 836 00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.360 We get that one scene of Killan Murphy making a 837 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.480 joke at his expense and he's kind of laughing about it, 838 00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.360 and then later on we get their verse where he's 839 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.800 not and I just love when he has to give 840 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.800 that explanation Alden Aaron Reich and some of it's right though, 841 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:35.000 that's what I love about him if he's the antagonist 842 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.079 or villain of the movie. When he talking about where Altenheimer, 843 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:40.519 he wants to be the guy in charge. He wants 844 00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:42.840 his name out there, so you go, Okay, he maybe 845 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:48.079 railroaded him unfairly, but these things he's saying aren't untrue. 846 00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:49.840 And that's where all these areas in Shade of Gray. 847 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.360 And I love when he finds out that he loses 848 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:53.920 because he's like, oh, you want to get the press. 849 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.440 He's like, do you think of and or Alt? And 850 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.599 then Alden say, yeah, well you're pretty much in. So 851 00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.920 he's okay, get the press. And when all walks in 852 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.440 and he's like, oh they didn't pass me, did they? 853 00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:04.480 And he's and he just tries to put on this 854 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.480 face and yeah, all of them who I've liked a lot. 855 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:11.199 Just Onden Solo has a great performance as well, But No, 856 00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:14.119 for me, it was Downy because he just he became 857 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.480 in a movie that has lots of grades, they still 858 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:18.039 made him the guy that I was like, yeah, screw 859 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.480 this guy. Like and when he's getting taken down by Rammy, 860 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.800 just his his emotions. So that's for me again where 861 00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.519 down his biggest strength in movies is always his talking. 862 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:28.920 It was the quiet moment so for me other than 863 00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:30.559 Kille and he's my MVP, and I don't know if 864 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:31.960 he came there, but yeah, I would throw him out 865 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:35.000 for supporting because he's I just think he brought a 866 00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.239 lot to it. And also I was not expecting him 867 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:39.119 to be in it as much as this I feel 868 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.559 like trailers, he wasn't and he had like this little 869 00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.760 accent that worked too. I was thought it was gonna 870 00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:46.199 take me out of it. So no, I thought he 871 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:48.719 hit a home run. I really with him and Pugh, 872 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.280 I really want them to work with or Nolan again 873 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:53.719 because I just would love to see what Nolan could 874 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.519 do with him more than obviously Pugh. She's in it 875 00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.239 and great, but it's a very it's an appetizer type 876 00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:59.599 of role, right, it could have been not could have 877 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.960 been any buddy. She brings a certain gravitas to it, 878 00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.440 but it's one that, okay, I'd like to see kind 879 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.519 of like with Robby and Tarantino. Whar Okay. I liked 880 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:08.599 her once upon time Hollywood, but I'd love to see 881 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:11.079 Robbie with like a full Tarantino script and get to 882 00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.760 go to town. So yeah, I think that would be. 883 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.320 And honestly, actually I would shout Jason Clark because he's 884 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.199 just such an asshole. He's such a good job being 885 00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.639 a break that you hate and you know the railroad 886 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:23.599 in him, and you just he's such a like a smarmy, 887 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:25.840 smarmy guy in those scenes and you don't there's nothing 888 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:28.000 redeemable him at all. He thinks he's doing right because 889 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.840 that's over. He's just like he's all fine, he moves on. So, yeah, 890 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:33.199 a mini shout to Jason Clark, who, again, really, if 891 00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.239 you put it all together, it's probably fifteen twenty minutes 892 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.519 in a three hour movie, but he delivers big time there. 893 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.320 So and then the other question that Matty said was 894 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:45.039 what was your favorite moment from Oppenheimer? Do you have 895 00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:51.519 a particular moment scene conversation? Oh, I don't want if 896 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:52.119 you guys want. 897 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.920 To think, I feel like I could. 898 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.440 I mean, obviously, if I had more time to stew 899 00:37:57.599 --> 00:37:59.639 on it and then compare different scenes, I could probably 900 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.599 come up with a large amount because it's just such 901 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.079 a long movie that's just top tier quality. But the 902 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.559 one popping around my head is actually like that twist 903 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:13.440 when Robert Oppenheimer finally like just realizes kind of the 904 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.079 because like, yeah, like you don't really have time to 905 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.000 think about like moral obligations or anything throughout this movie. 906 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:20.639 I feel like that's a good point that they like 907 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.079 emphasize in It's just like you're racing against the Nazis 908 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:24.920 to have the biggest bomb of the world, Like you 909 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.280 don't have time to think about like, yeah, your kids 910 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.679 at home, you don't have time to think about who's 911 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:29.000 sleeping with you. 912 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:30.519 We don't have time to think about any of this. 913 00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.440 It's just this has to happen, and we don't do it. 914 00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.320 Yeah. And then around the time with like the test 915 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.360 and everyone's just super super pumped and it's all going well, 916 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:43.199 and then Oppenheimer just it hits him of like like 917 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.079 he's basically the Prometheus role here that he's just gonna 918 00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.840 be like he's bringing fire to like to man, he's 919 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.360 giving them the weapon to destroy themselves. And then like 920 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.599 that weight is actually hitting. And that's like the one 921 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.880 thing about Oppenheimer, like that famous quote, you know, I've 922 00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.000 become death destroyer worlds, Like that's like the one thing 923 00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.920 that I knew about him than that he's the one 924 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.159 that made the Adam bomb. So I was really excited 925 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.639 for that moment, and I don't think they disappointed with 926 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.280 just showcasing that that like weight, that that moment when 927 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:12.760 you just have a second like that just great anxiety 928 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.039 that comes to him of just like I, like I, 929 00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:17.800 even if we don't ignite the atmosphere here and kill 930 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.119 us all like instantly, like where does this end? This 931 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.880 doesn't end anywhere like like this, like this if they 932 00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.000 choose to keep using these types of bombs like this 933 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.239 just destroys all of humanity And just all of those 934 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:32.639 moments with the really intense editing of showing the people 935 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.039 like melting when everyone's celebrating and he's just completely freaking out. 936 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.880 I don't even remember where or how that that scene 937 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.239 like starts or ends, but just like that particular moment 938 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.239 of the movie, it just it it It hit me 939 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:47.159 so hard. I honestly, I thought it was gonna be 940 00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.159 like the big bomb explosion that was like the most 941 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.320 uh memorable scene for me. But it was that moment 942 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.000 of just him him realizing what's happening there, and then 943 00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.800 that's kind of when he takes that morality shift in 944 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.559 the movie of just like this probably isn't the right 945 00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.159 idea to just let America government have this. So yeah, 946 00:40:06.239 --> 00:40:08.719 I just thought that was done so well. And I'm 947 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.719 glad because that was the one thing that I like 948 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:14.760 remember or sorry, knew beforehand was gonna happen, and they 949 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.199 did a really good job of showcasing that. 950 00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:19.920 Yeah, it seems like Maddie's the same, and i'd piggyback 951 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.400 that I was the same. Yeah, specifically the gymnasium, because 952 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.760 I love that. Even in the trailer, is that sound 953 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:26.519 of them stomping on the bleachers. I thought it was 954 00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:28.440 a train this whole time, you know, I thought, oh, 955 00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:30.000 every time I saw a train, like this must be 956 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.039 a train. So it was just like a train. But no, 957 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.360 it starts that way where they're all stomping and cheering 958 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:36.599 and he walks out, and I do love that, Like 959 00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.559 that's the one that's gonna stick with me for weeks. 960 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.039 That's like there's two scenes that I guess they're small. Well, 961 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.480 the two scenes are really horrish. And when he walks 962 00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.880 out and they're all cheering and he's giving his speech 963 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.480 and he'll say something and then it cuts a sun 964 00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:49.920 and I just love it. Be like, oh, too bad, 965 00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.280 we didn't have for those Germans. And he'll say it 966 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.960 and then it's dead silent, but everyone stands up and clap, 967 00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:56.719 and it's one of these things that he's he's like 968 00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.119 playing a role because he doesn't want people to feel 969 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:01.079 disappointed because he doesn't in this mode want to spurt. 970 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:02.440 I'll be like, yeah, this was a big mistake. We 971 00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:05.000 really screwed up. People have been there for four years, 972 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.599 they moved their whole family there, so he wants to 973 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:08.920 be raw. He wants to push that narrative for that 974 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.039 he's a part of the country. And also this is 975 00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.719 not too far from Matt Daan when they got the bomb. 976 00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:15.440 He's like, Oh, you're gonna let me know what happens. 977 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.719 You're like, well, I'll call you and tell you what 978 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:19.679 I can. So it's like the second he makes the bomb, 979 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.480 that's done. They're kind of out and we get that 980 00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.719 more throughout the movie, but it's like it's not your 981 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.519 creation anymore per se. Once you give them recipe, they 982 00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:29.320 can cook it anytime. And when you just get that 983 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.679 shot of I love anytime in the movie, they do 984 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.280 multi times with the wall would shake behind him and 985 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.159 make it look like a bomb's about to go off, 986 00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:39.639 and just that shot of the girl that's clapping and 987 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.840 her face is health none off and you got it's like, 988 00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.400 that's where it's great. When he's fat, that whole thing. Quiet, 989 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.119 quiet comes in there. And then when he walks out, 990 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.519 you have the couple that's and it's funny too because 991 00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:52.320 the way they shoot it, you don't know if these 992 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.239 are actually happening or if it's in his mind, because 993 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.760 you got this couple that's crying behind the bleachers, and 994 00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:58.679 then you have a guy that's throwing up, and it's 995 00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:00.239 just because in my mind, like, why is this guy 996 00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.239 throwing up? He could just be throwing up because he's drunk. 997 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:04.599 But Oppenheimer's reading a different way because at this point, 998 00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:06.719 I guess they would be seeing some of the effects 999 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.599 of the bomb. So even if it's other characters starting 1000 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.159 to feel like him, that scene is definitely you know 1001 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.000 that technically you should feel like the bomb going off 1002 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.599 is the most intense part, but that is that's like 1003 00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.320 a GG best scene for me. It's just that realization 1004 00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.480 the gymnasium, just everything the visuals and the cheering and 1005 00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:27.679 the audio, those silent like moments. That was such a 1006 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:28.920 great choice. 1007 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.360 To do it there, So yeah, I completely agree. I 1008 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:33.480 mean I got a shout out the. 1009 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.440 Scene of them testing the bomb earlier on just because 1010 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.760 that's so well done. It's so well shot, this is 1011 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.000 spence intention of it, and then just the silence of 1012 00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.239 it is so impactful, and obviously the sound like comes 1013 00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.840 in later with that kind of delayed effect. But everyone 1014 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:52.960 has their different setup. Whether it's the one guy in 1015 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.039 the car who's like, oh, the windshield's gonnat protect me, 1016 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:56.760 and the guy's like what about the wind sheer? You 1017 00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.840 know what, the child comes through. Everyone's got their different technique. 1018 00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:02.199 The one guy's trying to like sneak a peek even 1019 00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:03.840 though he should be in the control room. So that's 1020 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:06.079 a lot of fun moments there, but it's also like 1021 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:10.360 pretty devastating and scary and obviously, like you spent so 1022 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.239 much time in the movie like building up to this 1023 00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.360 point and that's really the only like actual bomb that 1024 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.280 you see obviously, so it's kind of a thing we've 1025 00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:22.000 been expecting to see during this movie. But yeah, there's 1026 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:23.440 so many I think it'd be tricky for me to 1027 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.039 classify with the starter end of it would be, But really, 1028 00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.480 just when we have all the reveals, like when we 1029 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:31.440 know who the Mole is, we know that Strass has 1030 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:33.360 kind of been the one who's instigating everything, and we're 1031 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:35.639 just having these kind of back and forth scenes of 1032 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:39.079 the closed hearing as we're calling it, and then like 1033 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.320 Strauss and him under like seeing what's going on, or 1034 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.760 maybe it's cutting to the scene when he's being I 1035 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.199 guess interrogated in front of I guess during that what 1036 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.639 might be a trial, or don't know all the names 1037 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:50.800 and terminology for all this, but the cutting back and 1038 00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.559 forth there when like everything is kind of coming together. 1039 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:57.440 I think it's so interesting because obviously, as you mentioned, Kirklan, 1040 00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:59.960 like Nolan's always doing like big crazy plot twists or 1041 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.960 you don't really know what's going on, so it's not 1042 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:04.280 even really just twist. But when things finally click together, 1043 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.039 it's like this big revelatory moment. And it's like there's 1044 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.360 moments like this in this movie with Strauss and with 1045 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:11.280 with the Mole and stuff like that, but they're not 1046 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:13.840 really played in that big way like, oh my god, 1047 00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:16.800 this huge plot twist that just changes everything. They're kind 1048 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.079 of more subtle, like just details that are thrown in there, 1049 00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.000 and you can kind of just put it now in 1050 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.360 like this list of facts and things like that that 1051 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.400 you're looking at when you think about all this stuff 1052 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.440 that's been going on here. So that sequence is really good, 1053 00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:30.960 and they kind of just a low key showed up. 1054 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.159 But I really enjoyed the scene when they've built the 1055 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.679 bomb at this point where they're almost finished and they're 1056 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.440 in I don't know who's off it is, but this 1057 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.079 is the one scene like James remar is that is 1058 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:41.760 his name for. 1059 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:45.480 That scene. 1060 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.719 I don't know why, because if you compare it to 1061 00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:49.360 some of the other ones, it's not as cinematic or 1062 00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:51.280 anything like that. But I just thought the way that 1063 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.239 was edited and shot and how all these characters are 1064 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.159 gonna go on back and forth, I felt that was 1065 00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.079 like a very compelling scene for me. And the fact 1066 00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.800 that it's you know, Oppenheimer's there in that meeting and 1067 00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.199 it's kind of people who are above him. 1068 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:02.760 We're going to make the. 1069 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:04.519 Decisions of where the bombs going, what they're going to 1070 00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.599 do with it in the strategy, and they're just trying 1071 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.239 to pull the information out of him one because he's 1072 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.559 very smart and he's I guess he's thought about this 1073 00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:14.679 stuff a lot, but I think it's mostly just because 1074 00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.199 he's the smartest guy in the room kind of thing, 1075 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.079 and they're trying to pull that information out of him 1076 00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:19.840 and he really doesn't want to because at this point 1077 00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:21.360 he's like, I don't think we should really use it, 1078 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.559 Like the fact that we have it was maybe enough 1079 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:24.239 to scare them off. 1080 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:25.159 Then he's like, okay, but. 1081 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:26.840 If you were to use it, like where on this 1082 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.840 map do you think you would choose to land it? 1083 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:30.480 And stuff like that. 1084 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.159 And I found that scene like really compelling as well, 1085 00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:34.920 maybe more of a low key shot. I don't know 1086 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.519 if that's a Golden Geek contender, but that's that scene 1087 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:39.719 really stuck out to me as well. 1088 00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:43.079 Definitely worthy of a shout out though, because I, yeah, 1089 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.199 I love that scene. I had agree with that guy's name. 1090 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:50.639 I forgot he was the Dexter Dad. Yeah, But just 1091 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.000 like something that really stuck with me in that scene 1092 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.159 too was how much weight is like on these people's 1093 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.679 decisions of just like where this weapon of mass destruction 1094 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:01.679 is just gonna be dropped? And like the one guy 1095 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:03.760 is like, let's not do Kyoto because I like to 1096 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:06.679 vacation there, and like just not even thinking about Yeah, 1097 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:08.960 like not even the people that are like there and all, 1098 00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:11.360 like the thousands of innocens of people that are just 1099 00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.599 gonna get murdered from this bomb, Like they just don't 1100 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.239 even like it, says if they don't have a moral 1101 00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.679 compass that moment, it's just like, Okay, we'll like we'll 1102 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.480 drop it here because of a strategic purposes. But then 1103 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.239 I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a little variable here, and 1104 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.559 I don't want to drop it there because of my 1105 00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:25.920 own selfish reasons. Me and my wife like to go there. 1106 00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.599 Like it was just something that really stuck with me 1107 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.440 in that moment. It's just like, man, these type of 1108 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:32.840 decisions are probably just made every single day, you know, 1109 00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:35.199 from like the the powers that run the world. It's 1110 00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.840 just such a fucked up idea and again just something 1111 00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.480 that the filmmakers is such a good job at like 1112 00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.079 shining a light on of just like this is, I 1113 00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.559 don't know, just a really really well telling. That's a 1114 00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:49.320 weird way to say that, a really good telling of 1115 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:50.559 just a really fucked up thing. 1116 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, I think that's when because also a 1117 00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:56.400 whole move I know where it's going, Like we know 1118 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.079 what happens, but I think that scens So I'm glad 1119 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:00.719 you show that done with a first time. I felt 1120 00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:04.719 really not with our characters anymore. And it's tough, right 1121 00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.320 because you do have that's war every time, right where 1122 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.199 it's okay, what do you do? Because there's that argument 1123 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:10.639 what if they were to find this out, they would 1124 00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.000 just bomb you? It ends the war, but you're still 1125 00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.199 talking about They portray the scene as these people talking 1126 00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:19.199 about it so carelessly. It's just any decision, and yeah, 1127 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.079 that that remark of James. We're like, yeah, we went 1128 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:22.360 to a honeymoon there and we don't want to We 1129 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:24.679 don't want to lose that. And I love too that 1130 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.280 it infers the trial or is the the hearing later 1131 00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.400 on because they're they go, oh, you were a part 1132 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.519 of the decision of where it was to drop, but 1133 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.159 not Appenheimer really wasn't you know? He was there trying 1134 00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.119 of giving other advice, saying like what if we you know, 1135 00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:39.320 told them about the bomb, like he was trying to 1136 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.639 express him and the science, you know, community's concerns or 1137 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.000 what they should think about. And we see like later 1138 00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:47.639 on when he gives up bomb way, he's like, oh 1139 00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:49.400 it has to drop higher and like, Oh, don't worry, 1140 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.039 we got it from here. But I love that they 1141 00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:52.800 kind of threw that in his face about he was 1142 00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:54.559 like they made its, not like he was the one 1143 00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.639 to decide. These were the two places where he really 1144 00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:58.760 wasn't and he didn't want to even launch in July, 1145 00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.719 and they're they're like, oh yeah in July, and Matt Dames, yeah, July. 1146 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.679 And you see Oppenheimer stressing out because he said, like 1147 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.280 August maybe like the minimum the earliest that it could happen, 1148 00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:12.199 and Matt Dame's like, yeah, July. So it's this whole 1149 00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:14.719 scene of again he helped create this bomb, but this 1150 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:17.079 is the beginnings, and I'm starting to get railroaded of 1151 00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.599 sure that you're very important to a degree. And then once, 1152 00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.880 like I said, once, it's like a magician. It's feels 1153 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.000 very much like the prestige and that and lots of 1154 00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.000 this movie feels a lot like prestige far as the 1155 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.119 timeline and the way Nolan shows these characters that are 1156 00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.360 all in gray area, but that idea of and prestige. 1157 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.280 He never want to give up the trick because then 1158 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.639 when you do your you're useless. No one cares about 1159 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.119 you anymore. And that's Oppenheimer the bomb. The second he 1160 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:40.960 gives up the trick and how to make it, he 1161 00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:42.559 is kind of useless. And then they try and get 1162 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:44.440 rid of him because you know, you get this whole 1163 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:48.199 conversation during the hearing of I can't remember who plays 1164 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:50.400 his friend, but he talks about how you know, he's 1165 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.199 just giving his opinion on what happened and what could 1166 00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:55.119 go forward, and they want to shut him out, which 1167 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.159 obviously has a lot of you know, context even for 1168 00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.320 today and what you can say what you can and 1169 00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.480 there's a whole brombder of yes and no and red 1170 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.039 eye thumbnails and all that stuff. Right, But I think 1171 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.679 with this they're doing a good job of they should 1172 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.920 be allowed to express concerns. But you know, he doesn't 1173 00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.159 technically own the bomb, so he shouldn't be allowed to 1174 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.599 do that, and it's against America. 1175 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:16.280 So that. 1176 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.880 Talking about wiping all these people up, even him just 1177 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.079 saying what if you just drop one bomb? They go, well, no, 1178 00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:26.480 we need to drop too. They just pretty much they 1179 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.519 don't even say we They just like, we're dropping too, 1180 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.360 no matter what we're dropping too. 1181 00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:34.639 That was very I think that moments really stuck with 1182 00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:36.880 me too, because I had never really thought about that 1183 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.039 and maybe that's just a history not knowing enough history 1184 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.000 on Miam, but like never, I always knew there was 1185 00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:44.000 two bombs draw, but I didn't really know why there 1186 00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:46.320 was two. And the fact of the reasoning is, first one, 1187 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:47.840 you know, you gotta do it, just show that we 1188 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:49.480 can do it, and second one just to show that 1189 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:51.840 you can do it again and it's reutable. And that's 1190 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.400 like the most fucked up thought ever that that is 1191 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:56.599 the reason why they decided to drop the second one. 1192 00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.960 And so yeah, that also really stuck with me. 1193 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:01.559 And that and that's the like we talked about so 1194 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:03.199 many movies, right, And that's why I love It's the 1195 00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.000 conversation between him and I forget he's one of the 1196 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:09.559 Safty brothers who he obviously directed Uncut Gems and uh. 1197 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.199 Oh Benny, Benny, oh God, and what is the A. 1198 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.880 Good time with Robert Pass and check other movies fantastic directors. 1199 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.599 But they have this conversation about if you didn't drop 1200 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.480 the second bomb, or even the first bomb, but just 1201 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.559 about the bombs in general, because that was Oppenheimer's other 1202 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.280 points and scientists that they said well, why are we 1203 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.920 dropping these bombs because they are on the like the 1204 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:35.159 edge of losing already, like that we've kind of won 1205 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.400 the war and it's really you know, government side was 1206 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.039 what we want to really put a final nail on 1207 00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:41.639 it and show other enemies, right that it couldn't happen. 1208 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.159 And they have that conversation about do you think the 1209 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.920 war would have you know, ended either way without the bomb, 1210 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:48.679 And that's what kind of makes his work, I think 1211 00:50:48.760 --> 00:50:51.760 even worse, is if it could end without him dropping 1212 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.679 that bomb, because one he's not responsible along with other people, 1213 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.239 the deaths and you know, poison and sickness of all 1214 00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:00.639 these people, and to what people could do going war. Right, 1215 00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:02.360 So this is what I was thinking, because maybe not, 1216 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.159 maybe they don't drop the bomb and keep the war 1217 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.760 keeps going on, or the Russia war doesn't become a 1218 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.480 cold war, right, because that's one of the theories. That's 1219 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.000 why it became a cold war because they didn't want 1220 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:12.119 nukes getting dropped on them. So it was a lot 1221 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.159 of spy stuff and hidden families. So it's a great 1222 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.719 conversation they have about, you know, it's a chicken and 1223 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:20.079 egg thing, would it you know, would have ended no 1224 00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.519 matter what, or would have kept going, and it's a 1225 00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.519 good thing we dropped the bomb. And then obviously the 1226 00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.159 Safty brother he takes it the other way because he 1227 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.599 wants to keep going and do more at the bombs 1228 00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.280 and push further. And Oppenheimer's kind like, I think we've 1229 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:34.519 we've we've done it, like this should be the cap 1230 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:36.440 of where and then he answers, right, he goes, well, 1231 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.719 someone's always gonna build a bigger bomb, and it's like, well, 1232 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.880 that's true. So again, it's not a it's not a 1233 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:43.760 black and white movie, even though at times it is 1234 00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:47.039 literally a black and white movie, but it's many areas and. 1235 00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.679 Like that guy's motivation too. Maybe I missed something, But 1236 00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.239 for me personally, I just always took it that he 1237 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.239 was just motivated by the science. Like he doesn't even 1238 00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.840 necessarily care about making the biggest bomb. It's just he 1239 00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.039 thinks that the hydra bomb is just would be so 1240 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.360 much more effective because of the science and like the 1241 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.960 what he studies, And like this movie has so many 1242 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.000 different scientists on it, and I feel like they do 1243 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:12.880 a good job at just showing and again, like this 1244 00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:14.559 is a long movie. Maybe I miss something here. But 1245 00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:16.679 I feel like there wasn't really any moments where like 1246 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:19.719 the actual scientists that are like doing these things are like, 1247 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:21.559 oh yeah, like this is just giving me such a 1248 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.000 great explosion and have this amount of casualties, Like they 1249 00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:26.360 really are just focusing on the project, and because the 1250 00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.400 science is so important to them, that's just what they're 1251 00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:33.039 motivated by. But then you have characters like Matt Damon 1252 00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.559 who's he's just a general. He doesn't know anything about 1253 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.760 the physics of what this world, like what this is. 1254 00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.039 It's just all about what this means for the war 1255 00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.239 effort or the strategy. And and then you have like 1256 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.239 the politicians, right and their motivations. Like I think Nolan 1257 00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.159 and crew did a good job at just showcasing the 1258 00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.039 different types of characters motivations, even like some of the 1259 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.039 wives and like their home lives and like just kind 1260 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:54.639 of what they're focused on, like the pain that Emily 1261 00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.000 Blunt's character was going through, but how she was able 1262 00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.639 to just be motivated as like a strong shield for Oppenheimer. 1263 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.360 Like everybody kind of had their own different roles and 1264 00:53:03.440 --> 00:53:07.639 positions to play in this village that they made for 1265 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.280 the Manhattan Project to make these big bombs, and yeah, 1266 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.440 I was very I was very just interested in seeing 1267 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:16.159 how far we're gonna get with the H bomb thing, 1268 00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:19.079 because of course I known of that big that that 1269 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:23.840 big H bomb word, but I wasn't sure like where 1270 00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.480 that was included in just the historical timeline of things, 1271 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.159 Like I didn't know if that was actually gonna be 1272 00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:29.280 talked about in this movie or whatnot. 1273 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:31.360 So I was a little bit curious about that. But yeah, no, 1274 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.760 I all all of that stuff with just. 1275 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:38.079 Where the line where they thought the line or maybe 1276 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.199 they didn't even think about where the line could have 1277 00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.280 been drawn, and then of course it just gets it 1278 00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:44.440 just gets too late and like it's already well passed 1279 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.079 the line when you even think about those moments. 1280 00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:49.960 It's the classic Jurassic Park line, right, everyone asked if 1281 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:52.159 they could before they asked if they should. Right, yes, 1282 00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.920 you know, fucking Spilberg them great writing, because I always 1283 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:56.239 go back to that, and that's what it is. Because 1284 00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.880 even the scientists near the end, they start having those 1285 00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:02.840 group meetings right of the alone, and like when Appenheim 1286 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.280 walks in, they all like clap, but they're all very 1287 00:54:05.320 --> 00:54:07.280 It's like when the principal walks in and you've been 1288 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.119 trashing him and not him, but just the idea of 1289 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:11.840 because they I feel like they're starting to get the 1290 00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:14.360 sense too that the closer they get to completion, they're 1291 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:17.199 starting to lose control because they kind of know the 1292 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.840 jigs up. They because they're oh, should they be drapped? 1293 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.519 But it does. It's like the sad thing, but it 1294 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.639 is the right thing, right because technically they are employees 1295 00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:26.880 that got hired, they're not. It's the same thing as moving, 1296 00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:28.320 the same thing as us, like you can work, but 1297 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:30.800 if you don't own the business, you don't get much 1298 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.280 of a say. So this idea of them talking about, hey, 1299 00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:35.840 should you drop a bomb? Should you just maybe give 1300 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.199 a warning because some of them were saying, oh, well, 1301 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.440 maybe warn Japan that there's a bomb, But then they go, 1302 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.679 well no, if it doesn't work, and then they strike back. 1303 00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:44.800 But that's I like, the same thing. They're posing all 1304 00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.199 these questions, but it doesn't matter because at the end 1305 00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:50.320 of the day, it can be every science scientist and 1306 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:52.679 every worker, they're every family member. They're not going to 1307 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.880 get a say, you know, and it's a it's like 1308 00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:58.880 I said, there's gray areas, right because that technically by law. 1309 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.159 They shouldn't, right, because that's it's higher elected officials that 1310 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:04.400 get to make that say. But it's a human issue, 1311 00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:05.800 and it's a it's good stuff. It's stuff that I 1312 00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.559 think that'll be rewarding rewatches too. And that's why it's 1313 00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:10.400 not everyday watch because I don't want to every day 1314 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:11.760 be thinking about bombs. 1315 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.000 Yeah, like like that moral decision of like what would 1316 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.000 I do if I was an Alpenheimer's position, you know, 1317 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:18.920 because they hit him with that all the time. Of 1318 00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:22.480 if it's not the if it's not Japanese, it's the Russians, 1319 00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:23.920 Like they hit him with all these scenarios. 1320 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:25.440 If we don't do this, someone else is gonna do 1321 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:28.320 it too. You and you could argue that. So let's 1322 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.119 ta get a second a break, and we'll lea. We're back, 1323 00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.639 and we're back. Where do we want to go next? 1324 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:33.880 Here? 1325 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.199 I think I want to shout out some smaller characters 1326 00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:39.480 sure in this just because as we've mentioned now, like 1327 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:42.400 there's just so many surprise actors that bumped up in 1328 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:44.519 this that I don't know. It's almost like you could 1329 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.840 have a Bengo card and just be having a heyday 1330 00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:50.360 over here. But Alex Wolf popping up as like one 1331 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.599 of the scientists. I like that, you know, between Alex 1332 00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:55.880 Wolf and Florence pugetting a little bit of the ari aster, 1333 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.880 like you know, leading star, like checking those boxes off. 1334 00:55:58.920 --> 00:55:59.960 So obviously a big fan of. 1335 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.360 I don't really think there's anything to say about his character, 1336 00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:03.440 but I like to see him in there. I think 1337 00:56:03.480 --> 00:56:06.000 he's good for what he had to do. I guess 1338 00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.800 this act name is Dylan Arnold, who played Frank oppenheim Er, 1339 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:12.480 his brother who I only recognized from you. Yeah, so 1340 00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:14.360 he was such a surprise to see him here and 1341 00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.519 then like what a different kind of role that is. 1342 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.079 And I thought he was very good for what he 1343 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:20.960 was doing here. I got it. 1344 00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:22.559 The one thing that was very weird to me was 1345 00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.480 when they're like older, yeah, and I thought the older him, 1346 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:28.360 he still looked like he's fucking too. 1347 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.119 Young, too young. Yeah, when they game like they were 1348 00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.880 seeing a hairline and thing, It's like he just looks 1349 00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:33.719 stressed up, like you you should have shot him from 1350 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:35.840 the back maybe, you know, like don't show his face. 1351 00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.000 But yeah, I feel like we're gonna in the next 1352 00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:39.760 few years, we're gonna see him, you know. I wish 1353 00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:41.760 just happened before the draft is maybe would have got him, 1354 00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:44.800 but I feel like we're gonna see him. He's pretty 1355 00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:47.360 I think for a young age, he's pretty talented. And 1356 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:49.559 I'll say I think if no one gets you, it's 1357 00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.599 gonna happen. And that's the thing that's surprising to this 1358 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:53.519 movie only has one hundred million dollars budgets. So you 1359 00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.039 know a lot of these bigger actors they're taking big 1360 00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.639 pay cuts, but like why, like, I guarantee you everything 1361 00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:01.599 with the minimum way, yeah, just to get in there. 1362 00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.079 Even Matt Damon, he he's on a break from acting. 1363 00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:05.840 They said, the only reason I will stop a break 1364 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:07.480 is if Nolan called hi. Then I guess, like two 1365 00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.199 weeks later, Nolan calls, like I want you to be 1366 00:57:09.239 --> 00:57:10.880 in this movie. He's like, well, sorry, wife, I'm gonna 1367 00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:13.000 go do But I think that's it, right. Nolan's just 1368 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:15.280 that director. If you can work with him. Even That's 1369 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:16.800 why I think, even like a Pew who's in here 1370 00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:18.800 not that long, if you can work with him, you're 1371 00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:21.039 gonna jump with the chance to work with him, you know. 1372 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:25.639 So it's uh yeah, mm hmm, yeah. Gary Oldman as 1373 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:27.239 I YEA. 1374 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:33.400 Truman just so good, Despicable Human, what a great scene. 1375 00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.559 I didn't even recognize him in the in the moment, 1376 00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:38.599 like they did some good job with the the makeup there, 1377 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.000 And obviously that's a mainstay for Nolan. 1378 00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:41.960 I guess he only has he. 1379 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.880 Been in any other than the Batman movies. I'm trying 1380 00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.599 to think no, and so I guess it's been quite 1381 00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:50.960 a few years since he's been in one or movie since. 1382 00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:52.559 That was cool to see him. 1383 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.800 Back, and I was hoping because I I think he 1384 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:56.239 only popped for a little bit and ten a little 1385 00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:58.320 bit Dunkirk. I was hoping that Kane would pop in 1386 00:57:58.360 --> 00:57:59.920 because I think Kane's been in every movie, but he 1387 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:03.480 wasn't in this Michael Kane. So yeah, And I thought 1388 00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:05.320 it could have worked here by me. 1389 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:06.880 Old white men there were in this movie. There was 1390 00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:07.599 that chances. 1391 00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:09.800 But I guess maybe the accent. I don't know what 1392 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.159 his American accent is. Yeah, maybe he wouldn't fit or 1393 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:12.440 something like. 1394 00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:14.239 That, or Canny is gonna old im. Just like I 1395 00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:15.599 don't need to have a five matt scene here, like, 1396 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.440 unless it's a media performance, I don't need to take 1397 00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.840 a trip down, you know, because some of those movies 1398 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.559 like Interstellar, he's only in there for a little bit 1399 00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.000 in the inception he plays Leo's dad. You know, it's 1400 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:25.519 just like at that point it felt like I need 1401 00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.000 to make sure he's in there. But oldman was great. 1402 00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.519 I love when he's walking out, He's like, get that 1403 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.880 crime a man, I'm off But like it's it's. 1404 00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.760 There was like a famous quote too that Truman actually said, yeah, 1405 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:39.840 so yeah, I found that out afterwards. 1406 00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:44.760 But again that's where Oppenheimer's ego is. When you know 1407 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:49.000 Danny's characters Truman, they're despicable people in a sense. They're 1408 00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:50.480 not like murders and stuff like that, but they're very 1409 00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:52.679 cut through right, well technically true, but that's I do 1410 00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.480 like that line where he goes, no one's gonna talk 1411 00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.039 when they blame everyone about who killed these people. No 1412 00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.159 one's talking about the person that dropped the ball. They're 1413 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.920 gonna be talking about the person that chose where to 1414 00:59:03.000 --> 00:59:04.760 drop the ball, or whether they made the bomb and 1415 00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:06.639 drop the ball, Ye built the bomb, who dropped on 1416 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:09.039 which is like, in a sense, it is like people 1417 00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:11.440 still do talk about Oppenheim, right, and it's office. You know, 1418 00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.239 he has this moral conflict, but that is true too 1419 00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.119 at the same point where yeah, he didn't choose to 1420 00:59:16.119 --> 00:59:17.880 you know, as we seeing these movies, we don't he 1421 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:19.719 didn't choose drop it. He or even said we could 1422 00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:21.880 use a warning. And that's where you can see the 1423 00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.880 difference is though that even Truman as the president is 1424 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:28.119 in full war mode and he acknowledges that. You know, 1425 00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:29.639 great line there when he's like, I feel like I 1426 00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.719 got blood in my hands. He takes the handkerchief out 1427 00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.119 and you want to wipe them off their son. And 1428 00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.199 it's so great though that he is, like I said, 1429 00:59:36.280 --> 00:59:39.000 he's in that warmind of he realizes the weight of hey, 1430 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:40.440 I'm the one that chose to drop this bomb and 1431 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:42.239 kill them, but he's just kind of over it. He's 1432 00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:45.239 already accepted it and he's not torn that way. And 1433 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.719 it is true where he didn't he didn't choose to 1434 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:50.159 drop the bomb. Open higher. They commissioned to make the bomb, 1435 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.159 and he made the bomb. They didn't have to drop 1436 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.079 the bomb, and they did. And that's where it is 1437 00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:56.079 an Oppenheimer, where he's kind of an ego thing of 1438 00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.960 you can still feel guilty about doing that, but that 1439 00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.400 guy is still the one that had the bigger choice 1440 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.880 in the government, and oh see they're in this movie. 1441 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:07.599 They're portrayed as not having too much more out and 1442 01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:09.719 maybe that's stuff that catches up with you later. It's 1443 01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.920 probably you know, it's again, it's you're in the middle 1444 01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.840 of war. It's the same thing. We haven't lived through war, 1445 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.039 but it was what we have. I guess what I'm 1446 01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:21.119 trying to make the comparison is, I just remember after 1447 01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.840 nine to eleven, everybody was like, we need to kill 1448 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:26.840 this set of people and do this set of things. 1449 01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:29.119 When you're in a war, the mindset of the world 1450 01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:32.079 completely changes, and it's not until after when you go 1451 01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:33.800 it's same thing to Afghanist and how much stuff has 1452 01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:36.039 come back where you go that wasn't need to happen, 1453 01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:38.119 That didn't need to happen. There weren't really weapons of 1454 01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.239 mass destruction there. But in the middle of it, when 1455 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:42.639 you you know, twenty eleven two towers get attacked and 1456 01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:45.719 hundreds and thousands of people are affected and die, you're 1457 01:00:45.800 --> 01:00:47.760 just going, Okay, we got to attack next. So that's 1458 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:49.559 where it's the same thing. I couldn't imagine being the 1459 01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.199 president having to you can't. You almost have to check 1460 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:54.280 that the door. I guess, right, but then should you 1461 01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.280 check the door? And again all great questions the movie poses. 1462 01:00:57.920 --> 01:00:58.559 One hundred percent. 1463 01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:00.920 Yeah, they have a common enemy, right to unify and 1464 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.639 come together, and then once the dust settles, it's like, 1465 01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:06.559 oh shit, we gotta go back to our lives here. 1466 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.360 Yeah, look like Truman was old, so he probably didn't 1467 01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:10.800 have too many years after that. So it's probably why 1468 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:12.800 he wasn't as guilty because by the time we come around, 1469 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.280 oh I'm gonna be out of here, We'll a Oppenheimer 1470 01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.000 is still still a little bit life to live. 1471 01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:20.320 So yeah, And as far as my your characters go, 1472 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.079 I feel like I don't have really much to say 1473 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.199 on Matt Damon. I was almost hoping for a bit 1474 01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:27.320 more of him, but I think, after what the kind 1475 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.599 of character he is in here, I'm I'm also then 1476 01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:32.280 okay that he's not any more, because I think he's 1477 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:35.760 a fairly flat character. There's not too much going on 1478 01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:37.760 with him, and he's not too compelling. But I still 1479 01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.920 liked his involvement here, and I like the dynamic that 1480 01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:44.519 him and Oppenheimer had. I thought it was it was 1481 01:01:44.599 --> 01:01:47.119 all good stuff there, they kind of budding up, but 1482 01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:49.719 then he still like keeps that distance from him, and yeah, 1483 01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.599 I don't know. I like that obviously as the project 1484 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.159 is starting to close down, as we're talking about where Okay, 1485 01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:57.400 they have the bomb. The US government at this point 1486 01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:59.079 has the bomb. They don't really need Oppenheimer and these 1487 01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:02.000 scientists anymore. But I feel like there's still a good 1488 01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:04.880 element there where I guess Groves is his character's name, 1489 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:06.880 he's still kind of like he's built up that friendship, 1490 01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:08.280 so he still wants to hang on to it. But 1491 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.519 at the same time, he's got protocol and he's like 1492 01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:13.400 loyal to you as Army above Oppenheimer, so he's still 1493 01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.320 he's not sharing all the information. 1494 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:16.639 With him there. So yeah, I don't know. 1495 01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.400 I wonder what you would do if you say he 1496 01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.519 gave that character in additional ten to fifteen minutes of 1497 01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.719 screen time. I wonder what kind of things you would 1498 01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:25.239 try and do with it. It's ends up being a 1499 01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.159 bit of a simple character when it's all said and done, 1500 01:02:27.199 --> 01:02:27.360 But I. 1501 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.320 Thought he was well done for what he had to 1502 01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:30.639 do here. 1503 01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:33.719 Definitely not maybe not as compelling as Matt Damon in 1504 01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:35.159 another Nolan film. 1505 01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:35.480 For reason. 1506 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:41.559 Yeah, yeah, I feel like he like an Interstellar, He's 1507 01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:44.719 like that pathetic asshole, and then this he's like the 1508 01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.840 confident asshole. And I funny though, I feel like most 1509 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.559 of the humor was actually around his character, maybe just 1510 01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:55.360 his reaction to Oppenheimer just just yeah, being like very 1511 01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.519 literal with certain moments. I found myself just laughing a lot, 1512 01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:00.320 and like my theater just laugh laughing to a lot 1513 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.119 of reactions around him. And it's probably just Matt Damon 1514 01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:06.679 being so good at just handling whatever role he has 1515 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:10.239 to fill. He just carried those most Like I could 1516 01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:12.920 have had another actor that's portrayed a general in like 1517 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.480 sixteen other movies, you know, like those character actors that 1518 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.440 you just always see in these general roles. I feel 1519 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:19.639 like I could have been fine with that, but Matt 1520 01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:23.880 Damon just brought some extra extra spice on that that cappuccino, 1521 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:25.000 So I'm glad he was added. 1522 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.599 Well, I think what he has, he has that element 1523 01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:30.559 only a few actors do, kind of like Tom Hanks 1524 01:03:30.599 --> 01:03:33.000 where he can still play in every Man sort of 1525 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:34.880 feel like you can look at Matt Damon and envision 1526 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.360 this guy where sometimes, like you said, Kreon's like it's 1527 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.119 a caricature actor of like, I'm the sergeant. Okay, you're 1528 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:42.840 playing sergeant, but I can still see a real guy 1529 01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.599 in that Damon's character. And I like that. You know, 1530 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:47.920 Oppenheimer want him to phone, he didn't phone, but then 1531 01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:49.480 he phoned right after the bomb, so it was that 1532 01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:51.960 same that there's a connection there, but he still couldn't 1533 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.119 give him all the access. And I really really like 1534 01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:57.039 the ending of the hearing because there's a bunch of 1535 01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.400 people turn their back on Oppenheimer and he does best 1536 01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:03.440 to stay on protocol, but not also throw Oppenheimer under 1537 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:05.400 the bus because they said, oh, would you clear him now? 1538 01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:07.719 And he says no, and right away they try to like, hey, 1539 01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:09.199 that's it, that's everything, but he tries to be like, 1540 01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:11.119 I wouldn't clear any of them. He's like, no, We've 1541 01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:13.119 we got everything we need from you. He goes, no, 1542 01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.239 I want on the record that I wouldn't have cleared 1543 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.800 anybody that worked back there in this time with these 1544 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.039 new guidelines, so kind of saying that, yeah, I'm condemning Oppenheimer, 1545 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:24.440 but I'm condemning everybody and almost condemning the government system 1546 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:26.840 is like it was faulty back then from what they 1547 01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.000 deemed it, right how many solo years later. So I 1548 01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:32.039 like that it was and you would think that this 1549 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:34.119 was the guy who's at the b of the movie 1550 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.400 just wants to build a bomb, very army focused, that 1551 01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.719 he would not care about throwing any dirt on Alpaheimer. 1552 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:41.840 Just he go in there, answer the question, say what 1553 01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:44.159 they wanted, Hey, would you clear him? No? And then 1554 01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.960 be good. But no, he gave that moment where some 1555 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:49.119 of Alpenheimer's actually friends, didn't, you know, like the guy 1556 01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:52.000 we talked about before the Safti's character, Like, there's a 1557 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.000 few of them that had that shift where they were 1558 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:55.880 looking out for their own ass or one they're more 1559 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.360 funding and just wanted to build bigger bomb stuff where 1560 01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.840 Matt dams reason character. And I imagine at this point 1561 01:05:02.159 --> 01:05:04.199 I could be wrong, but I would imagine at this 1562 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:05.599 point when we get to the hearing, they've probably not 1563 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.360 been in contact that much, you know, I imagine they don't. 1564 01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:11.440 They're not getting together for tea and crumpets or anything 1565 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.599 like they've they've separated. So that's where I like that 1566 01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:17.039 even years later, he doesn't really throw him under the 1567 01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:18.800 bus when he could have, like everybody else, and you 1568 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:20.519 got a couple of other characters that go hard, obviously 1569 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:22.559 his wife and Matthew Modine's character. It's like, oh, you're 1570 01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:24.039 gonna have to put me on trial too, and all 1571 01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.159 this stuff. So there's a couple. But I was almost 1572 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.800 expecting him because they ask would you clear them? And 1573 01:05:28.840 --> 01:05:30.400 then you don't get that answer for like an hour 1574 01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:32.559 because they cut and then it goes back to the 1575 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:35.000 hearing later on, so I was I was very curious 1576 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:37.239 because then they showed more relationships, so I didn't know 1577 01:05:37.239 --> 01:05:38.920 which trae it was gonna go. Because also I think 1578 01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.039 when we got his answer, it was a montage of 1579 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.199 a lot of characters dog piling on him. So it's like, oh, 1580 01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:45.840 this is another guy who kind of screws him, and 1581 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:48.760 he screws them a little, but it's like accidental because 1582 01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.119 he could have still said no, but he was trying 1583 01:05:51.199 --> 01:05:54.440 his best to be a I guess, like keep his 1584 01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:56.599 conscience clean, but still help this guy out who was 1585 01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:58.480 you know? And he sassified. At no point did I 1586 01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:01.079 feel like he was ever unloyal to America, which every 1587 01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:03.639 person got asked that, and they're trying to hit on 1588 01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:07.199 him being a Russian spy, even though they already snooped 1589 01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:09.440 out who the Russian spy was there, but they were 1590 01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:11.679 they almost trying to put that on Oppenheimer, you know, 1591 01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:12.639 so just. 1592 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.719 Trying to entrap them, which is just like illegal to 1593 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.320 my mind. But again, they just make their own fucking 1594 01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:19.159 rules or whatever. 1595 01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:22.960 Yeah. 1596 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:25.079 Yeah, since we were talking about mad Damon. 1597 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:27.599 Another scene that I just really really really liked was 1598 01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:29.920 was that night of the testing when they're waiting for 1599 01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:31.840 five point thirty when they're waiting for the rain to clear, 1600 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:33.800 and it's just the two of them like in the bunks, 1601 01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:35.920 you know, sharing a drink, because like, these are the 1602 01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:38.960 two that basically started this entire thing, and here they 1603 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.639 are right at the tail end of it essentially, and 1604 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.559 it's just like fucking two billion dollars spent two years, Like. 1605 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:48.559 Yeah, we are done if this does not go well. 1606 01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:51.639 Yeah, And like although maybe they don't have a lot 1607 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.639 in common, like they are like they're they're the two 1608 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.000 right there that like that, like they they have the 1609 01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.159 most in common in that one single moment. 1610 01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.039 So I just I really liked that little sit down. 1611 01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:04.599 It reminded me of the first Captain America. 1612 01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:07.719 Actually, when you have like the night before the procedure 1613 01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:10.960 essentially just a little sit down between the professor and 1614 01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.000 Steve Rogers, and I don't know, I just it really 1615 01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:17.559 in my mind similar scene, and I just really like 1616 01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:18.320 both those scenes. 1617 01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:20.639 It's a nice calm before the storm, and it wasn't 1618 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.599 the trip, but I still love the conversation of him 1619 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.320 discovering that technically there's very small percentage that he could 1620 01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:30.159 just keep eating the air and the oxygen and destride 1621 01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.239 the entire world. And he's like, well, well, what's like 1622 01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:34.800 the theory, guys, Well, it's like a near impossibility? Is 1623 01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:37.920 it nearer impossible? Is not? You know that theory? It 1624 01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:39.960 can't be just impossible. It was like, what would you 1625 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.199 want the answer to be? Zero? I'd want to be zero. 1626 01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:44.400 And it's great because, like you said, and they're both 1627 01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:46.599 you got the army guy and the scientist guy. They 1628 01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:49.039 are that everyone reports to them, you know, because even 1629 01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:51.239 in the middle sometimes people give all the timer crap. 1630 01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:53.559 They're like, you haven't done anything to build this bomb 1631 01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:55.360 for weeks. But it's because now he's like on the 1632 01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:58.800 political side of talking to people and taking meetings and stuff, 1633 01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.960 so he's even his role has grown from just scientists 1634 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.719 to now like looking after all these people, and he 1635 01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:07.159 had to be on the road convinced these people. You see, 1636 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:09.119 some people quit in the middle, some people that don't 1637 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:10.639 want to work with each other. So he has to 1638 01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:13.199 be a wrangler of scientists. So he's very much kind 1639 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:14.800 of like in a sports analogy, the coach of the 1640 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:17.720 scientists and Matt Dames the coach of that. And yeah, 1641 01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.720 that's that's a good scene and I love what it's 1642 01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:23.079 I love when it's raining because you just imagine you're 1643 01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:25.279 about to set out this bomb and it's just that 1644 01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.760 has to be like even worse because like everything's slippery, 1645 01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:29.720 and they even talk about that, like, oh are they safe. 1646 01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:31.960 They're like, oh, are they safe by the metal tower 1647 01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:34.960 carrying the world destroying bomb? Yeah? I think so. And 1648 01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:37.199 it's just like it's just pouring on. These guys are 1649 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.960 like trying, you know, it's. 1650 01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.720 Like could be going off, like just like the worst 1651 01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:43.960 possible situation. 1652 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.479 Everything, but they gotta go right because we got July 1653 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:47.520 ninth or whatever the date was, Like, we gotta do 1654 01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:50.359 this fucking bomb. And it's just it's great. And that's 1655 01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:51.880 a good scene too when they do the bomb and 1656 01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:54.319 he gets back there and everyone's cheering that's before it 1657 01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:56.720 goes off, and there's a great shot of when they 1658 01:08:56.840 --> 01:08:59.680 hoist killing Murphy and he's cheering and got the American 1659 01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.640 flag behind him because it's such a good like America 1660 01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.560 watching over this and what it's gonna change for the world. 1661 01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:07.880 So lots of great stuff there because it's supposed to 1662 01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:10.920 be raw raw, and then fifteen minutes later, that's why 1663 01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:12.920 it kind of turns be in the moment you get 1664 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.720 your classic sports movie more like yeah, we won, we 1665 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:17.960 won whatever championship it is, we did it. And then 1666 01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:19.520 it's like, no, we got a whole another hour of 1667 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:23.479 you know, people really stressing about this bomb. Yeah. 1668 01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:27.920 Uh, Florence Pugh, should we talk about this characters? 1669 01:09:28.039 --> 01:09:28.239 Yeah? 1670 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:31.239 Yeah, I think I didn't really. 1671 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:34.640 Fully I guess when I was watching the movie, I 1672 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:36.960 didn't fully understand any when I was walking home after 1673 01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:39.359 watching it that didn't fully understand, like, Okay, what the 1674 01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:41.600 what the purpose that they're trying to do with this 1675 01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:44.399 character because she had more screen time than I was expecting. 1676 01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:46.359 I thought of the trailers that she'd be in there 1677 01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:48.479 for like a scene or two, but she ended up 1678 01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:51.439 being in a lot more, and some of it she's 1679 01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:54.079 like not actually there. It's like flashbacks, and the timing 1680 01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:56.960 of it is weird, but I think it's actually once 1681 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.119 again from the perspective of this movie all being CenTra 1682 01:09:59.119 --> 01:10:02.079 around Oppenheimer and his view and perspective of things. 1683 01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:03.920 I think this kind of being like a. 1684 01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:09.640 Small distilled version of he feels like he is responsible 1685 01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:13.479 for her death because of his actions or his inactions 1686 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:18.319 at certain points, and seeing that, like comparing that to 1687 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.399 how he feels about the bomb and his responsibility there, 1688 01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:23.520 I think is a really great one to one comparison 1689 01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:26.960 because you have obviously, like even when we get to 1690 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.359 the parts when Japan is being bombed, like we never 1691 01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.159 see that, we never see anyone. We see that one 1692 01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:35.680 person in the crowd, but that's just like a mirage 1693 01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.159 almost right, it's not even a real thing. That part 1694 01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:40.680 of it is pretty disconnected. So I think it is 1695 01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.319 a good call to have an incredibly personal connection and 1696 01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:46.680 someone that we've seen have a good rapport, like it's 1697 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.439 a very chaotic relationship and it's like they're not good 1698 01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:51.239 for each other. They split up, but you know that 1699 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:53.479 they've had this story pass. And to have someone that 1700 01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.399 he is personally, very emotionally close to and obviously that 1701 01:10:57.560 --> 01:10:59.720 death is not caused because of the bomb, but to 1702 01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:01.920 have that one in one comparison, I thought was a 1703 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:04.600 really effective thing, and I think it really helps add 1704 01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:09.359 to Oppenheimer as a character and and helps make make 1705 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:11.399 some of the other stuff feel a bit more believable. 1706 01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:14.119 Concerning that, we don't actually see the scenes of the bombing, 1707 01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.439 and they do that in a very interesting way. Right 1708 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:19.079 once again, we only see the trial run of the bomb. 1709 01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:21.680 We don't actually see a scene in Japan. So I 1710 01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:25.319 think that was a really smart move and really well done. Yeah, 1711 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:27.640 I definitely want to see Florence Pew and another Nolan 1712 01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:29.399 thing later on with a bit more of a media role, 1713 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.800 but you know, you could. This is a criticism I've 1714 01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:33.279 seen for just all of Nolan is that he's just 1715 01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:36.720 not really great at writing women, and he's movies are 1716 01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:38.039 ever centered around women. 1717 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:39.319 And that's totally fair. 1718 01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:40.640 You know, if he's not good at it, I'm like, 1719 01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:42.800 you know, focus on what you're good on and keep 1720 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:44.800 excelling in that. So maybe we wouldn't see that, but 1721 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.479 I'd like to see her come back and do another 1722 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:48.479 character at some point. 1723 01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:51.720 But I thought this was an interesting, interesting role for her. 1724 01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:54.159 That's what I love too, because I can't remem some 1725 01:11:54.279 --> 01:11:56.279 interview they talked about, because that's always been a critique 1726 01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.319 to that, like seeing the romance stuff. He's never been 1727 01:11:58.359 --> 01:11:59.960 the greatest at He's like, oh, this is by far 1728 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:02.640 my most romantic movies. So it's like just a girl 1729 01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:04.960 being naked. I like, I I didn't walk away and 1730 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:07.479 be like, man, this love between the two and that's fine, 1731 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:10.039 Like Dylan said, I don't need that. I think it 1732 01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:12.000 served its purpose because I was the same as Dylan 1733 01:12:12.079 --> 01:12:14.439 where the first half I was like, I don't know 1734 01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:16.680 what this is needed for. Like I love Florence Pugh. 1735 01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:18.720 I actually think they are good chemistry for the few 1736 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:20.760 scenes they are in. But I was like, is this 1737 01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:22.760 just a biography because some of thees do that where 1738 01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:24.279 it's like we need to hit on all these points 1739 01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:25.600 in his life and if it doesn't go to the 1740 01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:28.479 word story, it's just there. And I at first like, Eh, 1741 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:30.800 this is somewhere am I gonna feel like it could 1742 01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.399 have been cut? But like Dylan said, it's almost like 1743 01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:34.439 a mini preview and there's no way the man could know. 1744 01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:36.520 And again, how it's framed in the movie not in 1745 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.000 real life. But in this movie, there's no way he 1746 01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.640 could know that. The relationship with his ex wife is 1747 01:12:41.800 --> 01:12:43.640 very similar to the raceship he's gonna have with this 1748 01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:45.600 bomb of feeling like he could have done more and 1749 01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:48.479 could have stopped some things, but he, you know, just 1750 01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:51.720 had to go a certain way. And that loss kind 1751 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:53.760 of echoes what he's gonna feel more so later on 1752 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:56.159 when he has to you know, not lose, you know, 1753 01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.640 the loss of life. Maybe that's what I'm talking about more, 1754 01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:01.279 just that sort of loss, is being the head of 1755 01:13:01.359 --> 01:13:03.439 it and being the face, like when he gets that magazine, 1756 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:05.720 like the the what was it? The man who created 1757 01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:06.199 the whatever? 1758 01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:06.520 Ball? 1759 01:13:06.920 --> 01:13:08.920 Yeah, yeah, And just that's the way of he's getting 1760 01:13:08.960 --> 01:13:13.079 praised for all these things. So yeah, I thought it 1761 01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:16.359 served its purpose well as went forward. My only critique 1762 01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.199 is I wish that Nolan saved the nudity for the 1763 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:21.920 scene in the and the hearing, because I think would 1764 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:23.680 have been a lot bigger of them both being naked 1765 01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.560 because for the most part, they both don't really need 1766 01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:27.279 to be naked at it, like when they're just in 1767 01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:28.960 the chairs and stuff. It was like, okay, So I 1768 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:31.520 wish that because that scene that feels like an A 1769 01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:34.640 twenty four horror movie scene when they're interrogating him and 1770 01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:37.279 they start talking and it's like the classic like underwear 1771 01:13:37.520 --> 01:13:39.720 dream sequens, right, they're talking to him and they do 1772 01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.760 this great thing where they pan the camera past Jason's 1773 01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:45.960 Jason's Clark and yeah, they go buy him, and then 1774 01:13:46.079 --> 01:13:47.960 he's nude, and it's like, oh man, what's happening? And 1775 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:50.479 then they pan again and you just get ridden by 1776 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:53.840 Florence Pugh and they're completely naked. They're like see, like 1777 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.079 you could see stuff, and you get that horrific shot 1778 01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:01.079 of her influence. You just eyed staring at each other. 1779 01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:03.560 But that's where I wish the nudity came in, because 1780 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.720 that would have just been more impactful, like oh geez, 1781 01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:07.359 like all this is going on and it's not a 1782 01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:09.520 big critique, but that seemed to me that felt like 1783 01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:12.119 an A twenty four movie when weird shit just happened, 1784 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.199 Like what's going on? But I loved it was a 1785 01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:17.560 good allegory four because it's a closed hearing, but it's 1786 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:21.319 all gonna go public. So even though she knows about this, 1787 01:14:21.439 --> 01:14:24.079 they've talked about him having an affair, it's both of 1788 01:14:24.159 --> 01:14:27.079 them feeling so exposed and it really has nothing to 1789 01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:30.760 do with the trial because if they are convinced he 1790 01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:33.520 might be the leak to Russia, there's nothing to do 1791 01:14:33.840 --> 01:14:37.520 with it, just trying to well, yeah exactly. And it's 1792 01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:40.159 such a great scene because they're both exposed that moment 1793 01:14:40.239 --> 01:14:42.960 and they're both humiliated. They're both for what they have 1794 01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.680 to do and they don't. And by last point too 1795 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:49.640 before you go Kirkling is another a twenty four like 1796 01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:53.239 scary moment is when they showed her dying and there's 1797 01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:56.680 like a two second cut of a guy holding her 1798 01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:59.319 with a glove in the water, and I love just 1799 01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.279 that happen stance of what are they insinuating here, Like 1800 01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:05.359 was this like, yeah, sure there's a suicide note, but 1801 01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:07.680 this like is there And maybe that's in the book 1802 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:10.399 where maybe oppen hyper puts that that theory foward that 1803 01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.039 she was killed for some other reason where it's connected 1804 01:15:13.039 --> 01:15:14.920 to him, whether it's because the party she was in, 1805 01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:16.880 But it's great where you see the glove and that 1806 01:15:16.920 --> 01:15:18.760 cuts back to the regular scene of her drowning herself, 1807 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:20.920 so you really don't know, like, man, what happened they're 1808 01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:23.159 seeing that glove. That was scary. I was like, geez, 1809 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.239 that's it. It's it's a quick cut, but I I 1810 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:27.680 had goosebumps in that moment, so good stuff around her. 1811 01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:29.479 It happened so fast. 1812 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:32.279 Yeah. Yeah, it's when they're talking about her dying, it's 1813 01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:34.079 her head down and then for a second it's a 1814 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.239 cut of just a black guve holding her head down 1815 01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:39.239 the water. It's almost insinuating that maybe because they say 1816 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:41.560 that and she's and that's when they cut timly bumping like, oh, 1817 01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:43.920 it wasn't your fault. So I feel like in the book, 1818 01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:47.960 maybe Oppenheiper proposed something that maybe there was something going 1819 01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:50.319 on that was not or that could just be his guilt, 1820 01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:51.600 like oh, she wouldn't kill herself. 1821 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:54.039 Like I think it's more that like yeah, he feels 1822 01:15:54.159 --> 01:15:56.640 it so strongly that it's almost as if his hand 1823 01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:57.359 was pushing around. 1824 01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:01.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I feel like in the 1825 01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.520 the what do we even call it? The secret this 1826 01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:08.720 trial close hearing? 1827 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:09.039 There we go. 1828 01:16:09.119 --> 01:16:11.000 I forgot our initial term for it's been so long. 1829 01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:14.640 H yeah, the close hearing secrets of them just going 1830 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:17.960 so hard into detail about like his relationship with her. 1831 01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:20.039 It's yeah, it's just to like get under his skin 1832 01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:23.039 for sure, but like the place devil advocate to it, 1833 01:16:23.119 --> 01:16:25.920 like they are just linking him to other communists numbers right, 1834 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.119 and she was a communist, so like I I at 1835 01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:31.560 least understand why she was brought up, but like for 1836 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:34.560 them to go so hard again, that's where if you 1837 01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:36.479 have if you have like a judge there, you can 1838 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:39.279 have you know, your own lawyer kind of like put 1839 01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:41.159 an end to that and then the relevant Yeah. 1840 01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.079 That's all yeah, exactly not this, I mean like did 1841 01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.800 you fuck her? Like right from his wife and his wife, 1842 01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:47.279 And I love that scene to because his wife's like 1843 01:16:47.359 --> 01:16:49.680 fiddling like yeah, she's gonna pull a drink, and that 1844 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:52.479 not too far after the lawyers like she can't like 1845 01:16:52.920 --> 01:16:55.479 she's not gonna talk because for a moment, the lawyer's 1846 01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:57.880 saying that she's not gonna go take the stand. She's 1847 01:16:57.880 --> 01:16:59.319 not gonna say it because he can't trust her. Even 1848 01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:01.600 in that scene, she's like fiddling with her person when 1849 01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:03.479 she's getting talked to by Jesus and Clark at the beginning, 1850 01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:06.039 like she might have a drink just in front of everybody. 1851 01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:08.880 You're like, oh my god, she's just gonna pour one 1852 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.399 out right now in front of everybody, but she you know, 1853 01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:12.840 kept it contained. 1854 01:17:12.560 --> 01:17:16.319 So and oh just great Emily Blend performance in that moment, 1855 01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:20.000 just looking so vulnerable, like part of me not keeping 1856 01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:24.000 eye contact with anyone, Like she just seems super uneasy there. 1857 01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:26.920 Getting back to Florence though, Yeah, I know her her performance, 1858 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.720 like she just she's she brings one hundred percent like 1859 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:32.359 any scene, like whether it's just her in the background, 1860 01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:35.800 with her like mannerisms, like she just she's acting twenty 1861 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:37.880 four to seven like when she's on screen, and she 1862 01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:40.680 just does such a good job with it. 1863 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:44.800 I I do like the inclusion purely for just the. 1864 01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:49.800 Maybe the development that it gives to Oppenheimer's character of 1865 01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.000 of coming to that conclusion of like finding his moral 1866 01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:56.359 compass like halfway through, Like I just I just find 1867 01:17:56.439 --> 01:17:59.640 that a lot more palatable of him, Like I feel 1868 01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:01.159 like I didn't need it, but the fact that it 1869 01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:04.960 is in there, like something else that just is evident 1870 01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:08.439 that like his direct or indirect action led to a 1871 01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:11.000 death of someone close to him, It just led to 1872 01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.399 him having this conclusion of like the weight of dropping 1873 01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:18.039 you know, like a nuclear bomb, just an entire country 1874 01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:22.119 of people, and like if you thought so brutal about 1875 01:18:22.159 --> 01:18:25.159 like one individual, like even though you knew that person 1876 01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:28.119 just elsewhere in the world, what it's affecting them. I 1877 01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:33.520 did like how that was done. I feel pretty similar 1878 01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:35.880 to you guys, though, like in the early periods, because 1879 01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:37.399 I just I knew she was in the movie. I 1880 01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.039 didn't know what character she was or what like. I 1881 01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:41.560 didn't know she was a scientist. I don't know if 1882 01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:43.439 she was his wife or anything like that. So I 1883 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:47.079 was a little unaware on where to gauge her. So 1884 01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:49.199 in the beginning stages, I feel like I was just 1885 01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:52.760 waiting to get to that moment. But yeah, I did 1886 01:18:52.840 --> 01:18:54.720 not see it going the way that it did. But 1887 01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:59.119 great performance nonetheless. So I am, like you guys, hopeful 1888 01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:01.600 that she'll maybe be paired up with Nolan in the future. 1889 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:03.840 Maybe she's going like the Killian Murphy route, you know, 1890 01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:07.319 like he had very minor roles in the early early movies. Yeah, 1891 01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:09.560 then it's just gonna be her right on the cover. 1892 01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:11.199 I'd be wild. 1893 01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:14.159 Yeah, I gotta say the one thing that so that 1894 01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:16.239 scene during the trial you said is a twenty four 1895 01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:19.000 ish when she's when she's just riding them, they're both naked, 1896 01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:22.000 I dine laughing, laughing. 1897 01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:23.840 For me, it was not a horror thing. 1898 01:19:23.960 --> 01:19:27.039 I thought that was very very cheesy, and I actually 1899 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:28.479 wish they didn't do it. It was a bit too 1900 01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.920 goofy for me, and I was, yeah, I was cracking 1901 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:32.239 up for a good like min or two. 1902 01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:33.439 It was just hilarious to me. 1903 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:37.920 So I don't think that's the expected response there. I 1904 01:19:38.079 --> 01:19:39.279 just think, Yeah, for me, it was the way it was, 1905 01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:41.800 the shot and the goofiness of it was it was 1906 01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:42.439 a bit silly. 1907 01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:45.159 But other than that, I think the character is very 1908 01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:45.520 well done. 1909 01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:47.239 All I was wondering because I want to see the 1910 01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.560 scene again. I was just wondering if if they shot 1911 01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:51.720 it separately, if. 1912 01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:53.920 Everyone was in the room with that, I can't Yeah, 1913 01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:56.840 that would it seems very awkward to have to shoot Yeah, 1914 01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:58.840 because both professionals and all that. 1915 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.239 Yeah, because I want I watch scene again, because there's 1916 01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:02.760 a shot where it's all in the people of the back, 1917 01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:04.720 but I want to see there's enough clear cutoff for 1918 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:06.119 a lots of times Peel do it where they film 1919 01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:08.239 the two scenes separately and then you just interspice them 1920 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:10.399 together and stuff, because it would have been a would 1921 01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:11.880 have been quite a day of filming. 1922 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:13.399 But I think that's even like a thing you have 1923 01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:16.560 to do like legally if you're doing like nude scenes 1924 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.399 like that, Like yeah, usually unless you see the people 1925 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:22.039 who are crucial to the scene, unless I mean in 1926 01:20:22.079 --> 01:20:24.600 the script, are all those twelve people crucial. 1927 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:24.640 Like all that. 1928 01:20:24.720 --> 01:20:26.399 Yeah, I'm trying to remember like what the shots are like, 1929 01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:28.000 because I know there's like the zoom didn't shot from 1930 01:20:28.039 --> 01:20:30.439 like Emily Blunt's perspective when you're like seeing her face 1931 01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.399 like over her shoulder, which is so goofy to me, 1932 01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:34.880 Like I can't remember who was like in the background 1933 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:36.359 of that shop, and then the rest of it's usually 1934 01:20:36.479 --> 01:20:38.920 like looking at the back of Florence, right, And. 1935 01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:40.479 You never know. That's why Fends might be in this 1936 01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:43.039 world because like like it's all good for her. She's 1937 01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:45.640 a person literally is just she's nude all the time, 1938 01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:47.680 she's on red carpet, she's new all the time. So 1939 01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:49.039 it might have been like the script has written that 1940 01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:51.800 way and on the red carpet, oh yeah, like just 1941 01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:54.119 last week she's wearing a dress. No, she's wearing a dress, 1942 01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.439 like you get see through she's not dude, but you 1943 01:20:57.520 --> 01:20:59.199 can see the top of the day. You can see 1944 01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:01.279 everything she doesn't. She's one of those like I don't 1945 01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:04.239 care if you're caught, So that could have been the 1946 01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:05.960 way roll no Olan' in the scene. It's like, well, 1947 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:07.800 there's only a few actresses that are gonna do this scene, 1948 01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:09.680 and even Killian, right, he'd be sitting there butt ass 1949 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:11.079 naked in front of all. 1950 01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:13.720 These people, right and Killy it's like, diet, I guess 1951 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:14.199 I do it. 1952 01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.640 You know, So like that's why. Maybe it's like you 1953 01:21:16.760 --> 01:21:18.520 needed someone that's gonna be bold enough, like, hey, you're 1954 01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:20.319 gonna be naked a bunch of people, but we want, 1955 01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:21.439 we need the scene, you know. 1956 01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:24.239 So we'll say I always give you credit with your accents, 1957 01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.560 but you're Killian Murphy. I don't think it's up to part. 1958 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.399 I haven't heard him enough because I always forget the interviews. 1959 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:32.039 He has such a different where's he from? 1960 01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:36.680 He's like Irish, yeah, very like heavy Irish accent, but 1961 01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:38.039 it's like a lower Irish. 1962 01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:40.039 So that's why when the interviews, I have to I 1963 01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:42.000 gotta get I gotta get more used to it. And 1964 01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:43.640 I don't think I'm great with those. I'm good with 1965 01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.680 people like weird voices, so maybe I'll have to I'll 1966 01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:48.680 watch Piggy Blinders because I think that's on the list. 1967 01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:51.560 More after this and then I'll I'll learn. But even then, 1968 01:21:51.880 --> 01:21:52.920 is that his natural accent? 1969 01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:53.159 Is that? 1970 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:56.640 And that show Peggy Blinders? I think so because he 1971 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:59.800 plays like an Irish irishman Like years he. 1972 01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:01.119 Thought it was silly and I had to tell you 1973 01:22:01.119 --> 01:22:02.319 it was killian. So I don't know if you can 1974 01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:04.079 trust you. I gotta, I gotta watch it, right. 1975 01:22:04.079 --> 01:22:05.840 I mean, yeah, get on there, it's a great show. 1976 01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.600 I heard this quote that he like he was living 1977 01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:10.760 in London just because you know, he's very popular actor, 1978 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:13.199 big bigger town, but he actually moved back because he 1979 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:16.119 didn't like his kids getting like a normal English accent. 1980 01:22:16.199 --> 01:22:18.840 He wanted to have that that dirty Irish accent. 1981 01:22:20.359 --> 01:22:20.800 Respect. 1982 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:24.479 Yeah, he's an interesting cat. He's not in a bad way, 1983 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:26.239 just like he's he's like that. He's a very guy 1984 01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.600 that he's keeps himself out of the public eye and stuff. 1985 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.079 So there's lots of good means around the time. The 1986 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.720 strike of it's like Killy Murphy learning how he has 1987 01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:34.399 to do no more press and she's like all these 1988 01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:40.319 celebratory stuff. Yeah, interesting anything else, specifically a shout out 1989 01:22:40.600 --> 01:22:41.840 character scenes moments. 1990 01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.079 Yeah, a couple more things here, So the obviously, Yeah, 1991 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:48.239 the black and white sequences, which is a trick that 1992 01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:51.680 Nolan has done before with Memento, that it's used differently 1993 01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:54.439 than it is Mementomento is like, well, I don't really 1994 01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:56.319 want to spoil if people haven't seen those, but I 1995 01:22:56.399 --> 01:22:59.039 guess I'll say here that essentially black and white is 1996 01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:01.880 used for like, this is the current time, and then 1997 01:23:02.079 --> 01:23:03.680 you know, the scenes in color are kind of the 1998 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:07.279 story I guess chronologically going through, and then you kind 1999 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:09.600 of have a bit of that momental moment where I 2000 01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:11.479 think it's like the first time you see Robert Downe 2001 01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:14.039 in color is kind of when you've caught up like 2002 01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:16.279 the I guess the origin story stuff. 2003 01:23:16.319 --> 01:23:18.439 I'll say, caught up with real time. 2004 01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:20.439 We're back and we're in the closed trial and we're 2005 01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.800 like kind of closing up and everything's in the present 2006 01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:24.960 day at this point. Both stories have connected. 2007 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:26.479 So I like that. 2008 01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:29.520 And yeah, I think in terms of Nolan messing with time, 2009 01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:31.000 which is a big thing in his movies, we talked 2010 01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:34.399 about that along the retrospective. Of course, this is I 2011 01:23:34.439 --> 01:23:36.680 guess kind of one of the most light inclusions of it. 2012 01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:39.359 Where you're going back and forth between present and past. 2013 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:41.399 But I found that it was never really confusing, and 2014 01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:43.520 it wasn't used as to be like some big plot 2015 01:23:43.560 --> 01:23:45.920 twisty thing. It was more just the proper way to 2016 01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:48.359 tell this story and build up the suspension and tension 2017 01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:50.880 and have certain characters that wouldn't really make sense to 2018 01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:53.800 be in like a certain I guess either the past 2019 01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:56.359 or I'll say the present or the past, and see 2020 01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.399 through that method of the editing and whatnot, you can 2021 01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:01.680 get them both in there. So obviously that must have 2022 01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:03.840 been pretty intentional. I have to imagine with the way 2023 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:06.560 they filmed it, because they probably would have filmed the 2024 01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:09.239 black and white scenes like with different cameras and tech. 2025 01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:11.640 That's something that yeah, no one definitely would be. Yeah, 2026 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:13.239 especially for true black and white, you got to do 2027 01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:14.119 different lighting, and. 2028 01:24:14.720 --> 01:24:17.680 So yeah, I wonder where that moment went for some 2029 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.199 of those scenes with Robert Downey when they finally have 2030 01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.520 him in color, if they would have shot those toys 2031 01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:26.000 or with two cameras and they figure out later if 2032 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:27.600 they're going to edit it, or if he truly just 2033 01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:29.840 from the beginning he knew exactly how this movie was 2034 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:32.319 going to be laid out and when to have the 2035 01:24:32.399 --> 01:24:34.520 black and white and when to not do it, because yeah, 2036 01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:36.560 I'm sure if you like film the scene without those 2037 01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:38.760 specific cameras and then you try to fix it later 2038 01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:41.159 in the editing with like okay, throw a black and 2039 01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:43.319 white filter on, it would probably not look the same 2040 01:24:43.399 --> 01:24:46.920 and definitely not up till Nolan's standards. So yeah, I 2041 01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:49.119 thought that was a good inclusion, and I always like 2042 01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:53.199 when there's kind of little connectivity between a director's filmographies. 2043 01:24:53.319 --> 01:24:55.960 Was fun, especially Memento's one of my favorites of his. 2044 01:24:56.039 --> 01:24:56.720 One I've seen a lot. 2045 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.399 It was cool, well, much like Memento too, for you know, 2046 01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:03.199 go watch that movie. But he also said the color 2047 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:06.680 differences are the black and white is what has objectively happened, 2048 01:25:06.760 --> 01:25:09.359 and the color is from Oppenheimer's point of view, so 2049 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.239 it's skewed. That's what he said. Yeah, that's what he said, 2050 01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:13.399 was the differences of the color. 2051 01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:15.319 So if you think about that, very excited. 2052 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:18.479 Yeah, if you think about that, the black and white 2053 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:20.840 stuff is mostly the downy stuff the trial. You get 2054 01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:23.680 some flashbacks with Oppenheimer, of course, but most of them 2055 01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.800 are featured around those bigger scenes that are you could 2056 01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:29.479 imagine find on like everything that Downy went through is 2057 01:25:29.520 --> 01:25:32.039 on record as far as you know, on public trial 2058 01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:34.439 seeing some of that trial stuff. Because that's the thing. 2059 01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:36.760 When you see that scene of Downy laughing at his joke, 2060 01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:38.800 he's in color, but when they show it again, it's 2061 01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.359 in black and white and he's not laughing. So that's 2062 01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:44.680 the way in Albuneier's mind he made this joke like, oh, 2063 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.279 everybody must have loved it, but when they go to reality, 2064 01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:49.920 it's actually fucking Strouss being like fuck you man, like 2065 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.600 you're you're embarrassing me in front of everybody, like I'm 2066 01:25:52.600 --> 01:25:54.680 gonna get you end of the movie. Knowing that I 2067 01:25:54.760 --> 01:25:56.880 didn't know that, yeah, because that he had answered that 2068 01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:58.880 about a few months ago, because the ones the trailer said, 2069 01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:00.680 everyone's like, what's the difference, and he had said, oh, 2070 01:26:00.760 --> 01:26:02.920 well it's this and this, So I luckily had that 2071 01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:04.319 going in there. So that's why it's a little like 2072 01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:06.760 momento where he does use the colors to show a 2073 01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:09.800 certain perspectives of characters and timeline. So yeah, watch out 2074 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:11.560 for that when you watch it again. But most of 2075 01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:13.399 the black and white. That's why majority of that is 2076 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:16.479 on Downy because that's the stuff that's on public record 2077 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:19.000 of like, okay, this happened. This guy made a statement, 2078 01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:20.800 he didn't get a seat, you know stuff. 2079 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:30.479 So Kenneth Bron Bron Karana. I love his I just 2080 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:33.600 love him as an actor. I specifically with his roles 2081 01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:37.239 in Nolan movies. Again, like the more I watched Tenant, 2082 01:26:37.359 --> 01:26:39.960 I just I love him as a piece of shit, 2083 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:40.760 asshole villain. 2084 01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:42.760 He's just so good in that role. 2085 01:26:42.840 --> 01:26:45.359 But in here he's just you know, a lot, a 2086 01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:47.399 lot more minor of a role just playing Neil's Bore, 2087 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:49.760 a scientist that you know, I learned about in chemistry 2088 01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:51.359 back in the day, So it's just funny to have 2089 01:26:51.640 --> 01:26:55.800 a familiar face betray him and just like the big scientists. 2090 01:26:56.039 --> 01:26:57.840 I mean, there's probably so many more that I didn't. 2091 01:26:57.600 --> 01:27:00.680 Even recognize, like throughout the movie, but the one, I mean, 2092 01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:03.079 you had Alt Einstein of course, in here, Neil's boor 2093 01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:07.359 Werner Heisenberg, like the German guy that was that was 2094 01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:09.760 helping the Nazis try and find their own bomb. Just 2095 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:12.239 like hearing those names and having like surface level knowledge 2096 01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:15.720 of them, it was just kind of interesting thinking about 2097 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:18.680 these scenes where, especially back when like Oppenheimer was a 2098 01:27:18.720 --> 01:27:20.800 student when they were doing those flashbacks early on in 2099 01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.159 the movie of just him being so enamored about like 2100 01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:26.800 learning different things from because like I don't know it 2101 01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:30.600 just I think something that will probably go a little 2102 01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.760 bit less noticed for this movie is just how well 2103 01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:38.399 that was told of like where science was in this era, 2104 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:40.720 Like you can't just go on the internet and like FaceTime, 2105 01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:43.800 you know a scientist like in in wherever, like because 2106 01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:46.319 he was in the States, and then he made a 2107 01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:48.159 big emphasis that he he had to go study in 2108 01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:51.199 Europe because nobody is talking about quantum mechanics here, like 2109 01:27:51.239 --> 01:27:53.600 he has to learn about it. And then he's there 2110 01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:56.880 and he really hates his teacher. He he you know, 2111 01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.319 like he's super excited for the Neils Bore lecture, but 2112 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:00.720 he's just around in class. 2113 01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:01.760 So just like stay back. 2114 01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:07.279 He almost almost murders his is his professor. But then yeah, 2115 01:28:07.359 --> 01:28:09.720 just fast forward to like it turned like he actually 2116 01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:11.920 has a conversation with Neil's borr and it's like you're 2117 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:13.600 probably wasting your time here, like you should go to 2118 01:28:13.680 --> 01:28:16.359 this place to study more of the theory side and 2119 01:28:16.560 --> 01:28:19.079 just the linking together of all these different inspirations that 2120 01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:23.560 again just allows him to come to different conclusions with 2121 01:28:23.920 --> 01:28:24.640 the science stuff. 2122 01:28:24.680 --> 01:28:25.960 I find that just so. 2123 01:28:26.079 --> 01:28:29.640 Interesting and I loved I love the way that they 2124 01:28:29.720 --> 01:28:33.039 did the shot of him like at school, just not 2125 01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:35.840 being able to sleep because all like he's terrified of 2126 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.159 just the thought of like what quantum mechanics is. And 2127 01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:42.800 it just was a cool little insight into like how 2128 01:28:43.119 --> 01:28:47.279 a super super super brilliant person is just like cursed 2129 01:28:47.359 --> 01:28:49.199 in that sense that like they can't just calm their 2130 01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:52.439 mind down and like think about memes, you know, like 2131 01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:54.560 I know memes are around this time, but just just 2132 01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:58.039 stupid random things. Like they're thinking about literally the structure 2133 01:28:58.079 --> 01:29:00.399 of the universe and how at all these moments like 2134 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:03.199 it could just collapse or break apart, and like again 2135 01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:05.239 the great editing of just flashing in those moments. It's 2136 01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.399 almost like a nightmare like that, no kidding, he can't 2137 01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:09.439 sleep just thinking about these little particles that are just 2138 01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.479 all around us. And I can't remember which character he's 2139 01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:16.159 talking to, but he's explaining how I oh, it was 2140 01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:19.399 his other mistress on one of the other person's wives 2141 01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:21.319 that he was he was getting all interested in, but 2142 01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:23.279 she was like explaining to me quantum mechanics, and he 2143 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.439 was just saying how everything is majority like empty space, 2144 01:29:26.520 --> 01:29:29.359 and it's just it's just a perspective that vast majority 2145 01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:31.960 of people would just not be thinking about. But for him, 2146 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:35.359 that's just like the main way of thinking. So again, 2147 01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:36.880 I was kind of going all over the place there, 2148 01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:40.199 but I just love the his the way that they 2149 01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:43.760 showcased his thought process, and again just all the scientists 2150 01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:45.359 and stuff that we're including this movie. 2151 01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:46.159 I really like that. 2152 01:29:46.640 --> 01:29:48.680 I'm really glad you shouted that out because I think 2153 01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:50.880 that was an interesting element of it where and this 2154 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:52.840 is once again could just be like a Nolan playing 2155 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:54.880 with time sort of thing, but they try and show 2156 01:29:54.920 --> 01:29:57.560 that multiple times where he can kind of see the 2157 01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:59.039 future in the way and not in a big sci 2158 01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:01.319 fi way where he can be a doctor strange and 2159 01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:03.960 literally see what's gonna happen. But like that scene of 2160 01:30:04.079 --> 01:30:08.520 everyone stomping in the courthouse thing, when he's like, you know, 2161 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:11.560 out making that big announcement, like that happens way earlier 2162 01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:16.359 in the movie before it actually happens in the actual movie, 2163 01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:18.840 and that's kind of interesting, or I guess I should say, 2164 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.199 in the timeline. So that's kind of interesting that there's 2165 01:30:21.439 --> 01:30:23.439 a few elements of that, and he's just kind of 2166 01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.399 always a few steps ahead. And that's when obviously he 2167 01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:28.359 starts to get super worried about the bomb because he 2168 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:30.439 knows what it's gonna do. And then I think that, 2169 01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:32.880 you know, that ties like right in into the ending, 2170 01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:36.079 which kind of has like you could take it almost 2171 01:30:36.119 --> 01:30:37.760 as like an inception sort of thing, that, oh, is 2172 01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:39.239 this the ending of the movie or is he just 2173 01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.359 imagining it. It's definitely not as ambiguous as Inception is 2174 01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:45.640 in that way, but I still think it's like, man, 2175 01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:48.119 he is having this thought and like he's envisioning what 2176 01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.680 all these bombs are gonna look like, and this the 2177 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:53.199 world being destroyed by all these things, and it's like 2178 01:30:53.279 --> 01:30:54.920 that's just kind of left with you as a viewer 2179 01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:57.920 of like, that's probably just gonna happen someday, isn't it. 2180 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:00.479 Like I don't know, life's gonna go on, so for 2181 01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:03.319 as long as human beings are gonna be around, that 2182 01:31:03.399 --> 01:31:06.119 could just straight up be what the end of all 2183 01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:09.439 of this is is some situation where obviously we have 2184 01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:11.840 all these things set in place now, so the bombs 2185 01:31:11.840 --> 01:31:14.600 are not made like this, but yeah, like that that 2186 01:31:14.760 --> 01:31:16.279 very well could happen, and the fact that he's just 2187 01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:19.159 kind of cursed with the knowledge of it because he 2188 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:22.039 has that greater understanding is kind of a terrifying thought 2189 01:31:22.079 --> 01:31:24.239 and in that very null anyway, like a good place 2190 01:31:24.319 --> 01:31:26.720 to just like roll the credits at that point and 2191 01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:29.680 leave you with that particular thought. And that's that's a 2192 01:31:29.720 --> 01:31:31.960 fucking terrifying thing to think about, because this is not 2193 01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:34.960 a sci fi movie. This is what life is like, 2194 01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:37.239 well at least the black and white sequences are what 2195 01:31:37.359 --> 01:31:37.600 life is. 2196 01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:42.239 Yeah, no, absolutely, And I feel like that point, like 2197 01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:44.319 even like back in the day, like Elementary just go 2198 01:31:44.399 --> 01:31:46.119 I remember just hearing that fact that like, yeah, we 2199 01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:48.800 have enough nukes to destroy the world twice and then 2200 01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:52.079 like that was like almost twenty years ago now, so 2201 01:31:52.199 --> 01:31:54.560 it's like, I'm sure we've even have even more nukes 2202 01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:57.079 than that. It's just like what is the purpose of that? Like, 2203 01:31:57.159 --> 01:32:00.399 who would ever need that many nukes to just destroy everything? 2204 01:32:00.479 --> 01:32:02.720 But that is the reality that we live in, And yeah, 2205 01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:05.199 that's a good shout out at the end of the movie, 2206 01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:08.640 just just leaving us with that moment of like the ripples, 2207 01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.000 and again, it's just a very very artsy shot of 2208 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:14.239 like the rain drops and then relating that to the 2209 01:32:14.359 --> 01:32:17.720 different just bombs going off eerie, very eerie. 2210 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:20.760 Oh yeah, because nowadays all like the big countries have 2211 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:23.920 nukes and stuffing like that in the little countries. Now, Yeah, 2212 01:32:24.039 --> 01:32:26.479 exactly right, And it's that that thing where if one 2213 01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:29.920 goes off, then it's we've never had That's always the fear, 2214 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.119 is right, nuclear war. There's been nukes drop, But to 2215 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:34.800 have a nuclear war where multiple countries are throwing them around, 2216 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:37.399 you hope that the You hope it never gets to 2217 01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:38.000 that point, you know. 2218 01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:39.880 Yeah, I mean even what they're talking about with the 2219 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:43.960 science of it, how if this bomb was made slightly differently, 2220 01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:46.880 like one bomb could destroy everything just because the chain 2221 01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:47.960 reaction element of it is. 2222 01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:54.039 Yeah, have fun, But. 2223 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:55.560 Yeah, I mean I don't. 2224 01:32:55.560 --> 01:32:57.399 I feel like I want to talk more about Keilly Murphy, 2225 01:32:57.399 --> 01:32:59.560 but I don't know what else to say. I guess 2226 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:02.960 for me, like I think going forward, whenever I'm thinking 2227 01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:06.600 about like a gray area character, an ambiguous character, you know, 2228 01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:08.560 are they morally right or wrong? That kind of thing, 2229 01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:09.840 I feel like this is gonna be one of like 2230 01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:12.720 the prime examples of a character to look at because 2231 01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:16.239 it's just such an interesting element of it, of the 2232 01:33:16.720 --> 01:33:20.039 we've talked about the responsibility that he feels and you 2233 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:21.520 could debate, you could debate. 2234 01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:24.399 That all day, all year, all lifelong of like is 2235 01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:26.159 he truly responsible or is he not? 2236 01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:29.119 That sort of stuff is really interesting then, even Yeah, 2237 01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:32.640 just on the personal side, like he also is a cheater, 2238 01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:35.680 and he also abandoned a child and was probably a 2239 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.920 very absent father, and like I had all these issues 2240 01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:42.479 as like a human being outside of like just who 2241 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:44.680 he was as like a scientist in person and all 2242 01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:47.520 that stuff, And yeah, I found that element interesting too, 2243 01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:49.720 when it's someone has that line of like, dude, you 2244 01:33:49.760 --> 01:33:52.720 haven't done like it's paraphrase here, you haven't done any 2245 01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:54.800 sciencing in weeks. You know, Like he's not even doing 2246 01:33:54.840 --> 01:33:57.119 that element anymore because he's kind of caught up in 2247 01:33:57.279 --> 01:33:59.800 the maybe not fortune and a little bit of fortune, 2248 01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:02.359 but like fame and fortune and the glory of all 2249 01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:02.560 of it. 2250 01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:04.800 And yeah, like we've already talked about that. 2251 01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:08.760 That scene when he's just talking to the crowd and 2252 01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:10.960 he's obviously having these visions. He's like tripping out at 2253 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:13.920 this point, But like Matt, every line of dialogue he 2254 01:34:14.039 --> 01:34:16.840 has there and how he's just like he's just selling his. 2255 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:19.119 Soul one line at a time, a propaganda. 2256 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:20.560 Yeah, line after line. 2257 01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:25.399 It is like it's disgusting, but like and there's the 2258 01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:28.560 other side of it, of like the sympathetic side of it, 2259 01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:31.359 Like to some extent, you've seeing how he acted in 2260 01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:34.720 certain moments, like he was actively trying to stop them 2261 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:37.399 from using this bomb and he didn't he didn't want 2262 01:34:37.439 --> 01:34:40.479 it to be dropped at all eventually, So there's that 2263 01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:43.279 element of it, and he very well could have been 2264 01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:45.319 close to like getting them to stop doing that. Maybe not, 2265 01:34:45.479 --> 01:34:47.439 maybe just the US was just so savage and was 2266 01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:48.760 going to do it no matter what, even if the 2267 01:34:48.800 --> 01:34:52.680 bomb was like half as strong as it was, and 2268 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:54.600 there was something else I was gonna say about. 2269 01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:56.760 Like I think at that time, Yeah, because at that time, 2270 01:34:56.840 --> 01:34:58.640 like Matt daven has that line where he yells like 2271 01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:00.920 it's the most important thing, but it really was. You 2272 01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:04.399 look at documentaries and movies and books and stuff, it's 2273 01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:07.239 was viewed as like this was it was the end times. 2274 01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:09.760 It was all someone's gonna die, and it was just 2275 01:35:09.840 --> 01:35:13.199 people going and getting killed and killed, and especially. 2276 01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:15.840 Like where the world was when they started the project, 2277 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:18.840 right like that's like the Nazis are still kicking and like. 2278 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:22.319 Two years later evil is going on in the world, Like, yeah, 2279 01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:25.359 that is the end times. Yeah, like it wasn't because 2280 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:26.399 look at us now our podcast. 2281 01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.319 And then yeah, I think you know, also it's smart too, 2282 01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:34.720 because we unless this's gonna be like an alternate history movie, 2283 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:36.560 like we know in some ways where things are gonna 2284 01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:37.960 end up. So I think it was really smart too, 2285 01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:41.399 Like I don't know what what I did not know 2286 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:44.319 enough about Alponheimer's history to know what the result of 2287 01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:47.319 that closed hearing was gonna be, And so I think 2288 01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:49.760 that was a really smart thing to turn that as 2289 01:35:49.880 --> 01:35:51.840 to be like the final big reveals of the movie 2290 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:54.279 rather than like what we're building up to, just because 2291 01:35:54.319 --> 01:35:56.359 that you would think that history is so ubiquitous that 2292 01:35:56.359 --> 01:35:59.399 everyone kind of know that, maybe like some younger viewers 2293 01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:01.920 would in or something like that. But I thought that 2294 01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:03.880 was a really smart move. And then also I just 2295 01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:06.840 thought it was interesting that they like when we start 2296 01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:09.800 when we're in it in the movie, like Killy Murphy's 2297 01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.680 carry or Oppenheimer, I just say his name. He's kind 2298 01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:16.159 of he's already like renowned, like almost worldwide or in 2299 01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:19.760 several country countries. He's already proven to be very smart, 2300 01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:21.439 and we're just kind of told that rather than being 2301 01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.199 shown that. So I thought there's an interesting choice. Obviously, 2302 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:26.840 this movie's i'm gonna say, only three hours long. You 2303 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:29.079 could have done it longer and shown what his early 2304 01:36:29.600 --> 01:36:31.960 early college days and traveling and what that was like. 2305 01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:33.399 We got, like, you know, we're just hints of it 2306 01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:35.520 here there. And I think if this was a TV 2307 01:36:35.720 --> 01:36:37.640 series that was like eight episodes long, you would do 2308 01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:40.119 an episode of two of that with like the younger years, 2309 01:36:40.199 --> 01:36:42.000 or maybe like his child or something like that. I 2310 01:36:42.039 --> 01:36:43.920 don't think you need it here, but I did think 2311 01:36:43.960 --> 01:36:47.239 it was an interesting choice, considering that we see so 2312 01:36:47.520 --> 01:36:49.680 much of the rest of his life that we kind 2313 01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:49.920 of just. 2314 01:36:50.359 --> 01:36:52.119 Skipped forward to a few chapters. 2315 01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:54.920 And I wonder if that's why the book starts off too, 2316 01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:58.199 or if just from the filmmaking perspective adapting that, if 2317 01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:00.560 that was just kind of like, well, we gotta started 2318 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.600 somewhere because we don't have you know, we don't have 2319 01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:06.840 twenty hours to put in front of a to throw 2320 01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:08.960 in a theater for people unless we do this part two, 2321 01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:10.600 Part three, Part four, which I don't think would be 2322 01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:11.199 a great idea. 2323 01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:14.920 So yeah, I think that's pretty much it for me. 2324 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:15.960 On the note side of things. 2325 01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:19.079 All right, well, Kirkling, I. 2326 01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:20.239 Was just gonna shot out Danda Han. 2327 01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:24.920 I quite like see dandaon back. Yeah, I always want 2328 01:37:24.960 --> 01:37:27.840 to do more. Yeah, good asshole character. He's of course, 2329 01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.319 you can just tell he's not. He gets there, he's 2330 01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:31.399 he's trouble, you know. 2331 01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:34.720 And the fucking Polka Dot man for you. I would 2332 01:37:34.760 --> 01:37:35.680 never know that actor's name. 2333 01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:38.560 Yeah, David Desmashin. Yeah, it was a good little role. 2334 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:39.840 I liked that he was in there. He's like a 2335 01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:42.760 knowing classic. Great because he was in the Dark Night. 2336 01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:46.560 He played Rachel DAWs like a fake. He's the shooter, 2337 01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.079 he's with the joker and the parade and stuff, and 2338 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:50.119 that's when he was nobody. 2339 01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:50.399 He was. 2340 01:37:50.640 --> 01:37:52.760 He was just like a character actor and he's come 2341 01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:55.079 so far, so it's it's fun to see him again. 2342 01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:58.079 This felt like there's been some missing people. Of course 2343 01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:01.039 you don't have like your Christian Bales. Maybe you're I'm 2344 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:02.800 trying to think of another like we were talking about 2345 01:38:03.079 --> 01:38:05.319 Michael Kaine or even you could argue Guy Pierce, but 2346 01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:07.840 this is really a Nolan best of like Dave del 2347 01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:09.960 Smash and being in there like that's, like I said, 2348 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.359 a callback to The Dark Knight and stuff. So it's 2349 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:14.479 it's fun to see a lot of those, you know obviously, 2350 01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:18.159 and Casey Affleck he was used again later on yeah, character. 2351 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:21.079 So and like I feel like I don't know, I've 2352 01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.399 I've definitely seen Casey Affleck and saying in things mostly 2353 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:27.119 comedic roles. I just think of like The Ocean's movies, 2354 01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:30.439 his character in that. But man, like they did for 2355 01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:31.960 me at at least, I feel like they did a 2356 01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:33.680 really good job and just show it Casey and how 2357 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:35.800 like dark this character is. And I didn't see him 2358 01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:37.720 do any fucking dark things, just like the way that 2359 01:38:37.800 --> 01:38:40.800 he was talking about certain situations or maybe that they're 2360 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:45.000 describing like his methods. I was like fearful on like 2361 01:38:45.119 --> 01:38:48.560 in those moments, like just the possibilities of what could 2362 01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:50.760 come from what he was about to do, and like 2363 01:38:50.840 --> 01:38:52.479 I don't even know what he would be doing, Like 2364 01:38:52.560 --> 01:38:54.319 I it's just such a great area. I just see 2365 01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:57.399 him like the Baba Yaga, like a hit Man type character. 2366 01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:00.520 Like I'm just I'm fearful for Oppenheimer with that character 2367 01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:02.000 kind of being on his case. 2368 01:39:02.680 --> 01:39:04.199 Rob and I everything. He's doing all the right things, 2369 01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:05.560 like oh, I said this because I thought you want 2370 01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:06.960 me to say that, and Matt du you know what 2371 01:39:07.039 --> 01:39:09.600 I know say that He's like, who would cover for me? 2372 01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:10.960 And he's like, well, I thought you'd cover for me. 2373 01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:13.720 That's not like it, but it's good. Like it's like 2374 01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:17.439 it's like you could look as comedic banter at the moment, 2375 01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:19.279 but the way they edit it and have it it 2376 01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:21.319 is like a very frightening thing. And then they spice 2377 01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:23.239 it with the trial off because there's a recording of 2378 01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:25.960 that conversation. So yeah, but again, he was in an 2379 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:28.880 Interstellar right he played the grown up Timothy Shallowmeade and stuff, 2380 01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:32.159 so he yeah, he he's like it's funny him del 2381 01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:35.920 smashin Gary Oldman. These Nolan favorites were kind of those 2382 01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:38.399 were ones that weren't advertised in the press, Like those 2383 01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:41.600 three weren't announced beforehand. So that's why I thought Michael 2384 01:39:41.640 --> 01:39:43.600 Kay might show up, like well they have said, or 2385 01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:45.600 Christian Bale. It's like he's British, like can we you know, 2386 01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:48.479 I'm just waiting for him and Bail because I haven't 2387 01:39:48.479 --> 01:39:50.479 done anything together, like they did four movies together in 2388 01:39:50.640 --> 01:39:54.840 like a row, and then yeah, it's him and Jackman 2389 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:57.159 together and and same thing. Jackman. Jackman's the one that 2390 01:39:57.279 --> 01:39:59.840 I always am mad that him, and especially once he's 2391 01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:01.880 on Wolverine. Now he's back at it, but I always 2392 01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:03.520 thought once he was down, like man, I love jack 2393 01:40:03.560 --> 01:40:05.000 when him to get back together because I love what 2394 01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:07.880 they did together in Prestige, but just hasn't happened. But 2395 01:40:07.960 --> 01:40:09.760 you know, hopefully Nolan says he's taking the score, says 2396 01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:11.640 he around making movies till he's like eighty. So I'm like, good, 2397 01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:13.399 we got We've got lots of time. We got lots 2398 01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:16.520 of times to do this. So uh, that's their last 2399 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.720 out break and we'll be back with our update rankings 2400 01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:20.880 and final thoughts and all that could jazz. We'll be 2401 01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:21.560 right back. 2402 01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:24.000 And we're back. 2403 01:40:24.199 --> 01:40:27.399 So, uh, Kirkland, did you you have an updated rankings? 2404 01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:27.600 There? 2405 01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:28.560 Got his phone? 2406 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:30.800 Yeah, So go ahead, sir, what are your Obviously this 2407 01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:33.600 is probably no punting a tentative because it's you know, 2408 01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:36.960 you've just seen this movie rewatches, but just your initial 2409 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:39.039 feeling because we don't we were, we don't need to 2410 01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:41.079 do a whole retro ranking episodes. So at one point 2411 01:40:41.079 --> 01:40:42.880 we did rate rank these movies. So this is like 2412 01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:45.520 an updated tierless and once heresis Oppenheimer, we'll get to 2413 01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:49.039 his fucking wacky rating. You know, I don't know what 2414 01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:50.039 would be never won there. 2415 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:55.000 Yeah, I mean, like, just like even just updating this ranking, 2416 01:40:55.079 --> 01:40:57.159 it was pretty difficult. I feel like my Nolan ranking 2417 01:40:57.239 --> 01:40:59.560 will never be in the solid state. It'll always be 2418 01:40:59.680 --> 01:41:01.600 like a liquid or a gas. It's just kind of 2419 01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:05.039 floating around and things are intermingling. Because even just as 2420 01:41:05.119 --> 01:41:07.439 I was staring at like, I had two movies that 2421 01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:10.199 I kept swapping them out like back and forth. I'm like, okay, 2422 01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:12.279 I know that that one deserves them. I'm like, ah no, 2423 01:41:12.399 --> 01:41:14.479 I can't even so it's just a. 2424 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:15.279 Never changing thing. 2425 01:41:15.319 --> 01:41:17.319 I watched one movie and it'll probably jump up the list. 2426 01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:21.640 But with that said, I'm gonna start hear the bottom twelve, right, 2427 01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:22.680 that's solve them. 2428 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:26.319 Sor rye it should be twelve. 2429 01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:29.239 Yeah, okay, so start at the bottom. I have his 2430 01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:34.000 first movie following it's and like all of these movies 2431 01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:37.039 aren't aren't bad necessarily, it's just I mean, that's the 2432 01:41:37.119 --> 01:41:39.960 quality that he has in my mind. So I have following, 2433 01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:44.560 and then Memento. I actually I was not a fan 2434 01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:46.720 of that movie when we went through the retro the 2435 01:41:46.760 --> 01:41:49.119 first time I saw it, and it just didn't didn't 2436 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:51.760 really speak to me that much. Maybe it'll grow onto overtime. 2437 01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:56.640 Third last, I have Insomnia. Moving up from that, I 2438 01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:59.439 have The Dark Knight Rises. I still don't rewatch that 2439 01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:04.880 movie all these years later, I watch You'll like it. 2440 01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:09.880 Moving up from there, I have done Kirk and then 2441 01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:15.079 Batman begins above that Oppenheimer. This that's where I'm slating 2442 01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:20.000 this one, just above Batman begins. So here is the 2443 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:23.439 top five now, So starting at the fifth spot, I 2444 01:42:23.600 --> 01:42:27.079 got Tenant, it's grown up the list with the more viewings. 2445 01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:32.000 N Then I have Inception, followed by The Prestige in 2446 01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:36.039 the third splot, third splot, third spot, and then Interstellar 2447 01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:38.600 number two and The Dark Knight at number one, And 2448 01:42:38.680 --> 01:42:40.159 those were the Those were the two that I just 2449 01:42:40.279 --> 01:42:43.319 kept swapping back and forth because I love Interstellar so much, 2450 01:42:43.399 --> 01:42:45.520 but I just feel like The Dark Knight is just 2451 01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.239 a just a more perfect movie. But it's so tough 2452 01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:53.479 that all these movies are so great quality, you sir. 2453 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:59.000 Yeah, So I have not seen prestige, yet I don't 2454 01:42:59.079 --> 01:43:01.520 got why I didn't do that. I did every other 2455 01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:03.840 episode of the retro and I can't remember the reason why. 2456 01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:06.600 And it seems like your sister was in town. I 2457 01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:09.880 think if I were, because when I was uploading them 2458 01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:11.840 again this time, it's like, right, Dylan wasn't on this, 2459 01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:14.119 and I won your opinion because it's such a such 2460 01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:16.359 a good I feel like it shares a lot of 2461 01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:18.399 similarities to this. There's a lot of characters in the 2462 01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:21.720 Gray Area except about a bomb. It's about magic, right, 2463 01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:23.479 and like the timeline, same thing. You get like a 2464 01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:25.600 future like a present day, and it's like it's very 2465 01:43:26.239 --> 01:43:28.319 That's why I was really digging it because like, Okay, 2466 01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:29.880 I see where we're going here, so. 2467 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:32.680 Yeah, I gotta watch that soon. That's that's definitely a 2468 01:43:32.720 --> 01:43:34.920 big blind spot for me. And it's like, why have 2469 01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:36.960 I just not seen one of his movies and it's 2470 01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.199 one that you know, look at Kirklan's rank and it's 2471 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:41.119 very high up there. So I don't have that on here, 2472 01:43:41.119 --> 01:43:44.279 So I only have eleven. Bottom for me is Dark 2473 01:43:44.319 --> 01:43:47.079 Knight Rises. I also, I gotta say, like I have 2474 01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:50.800 not rewatched probably like half of these I've probably only 2475 01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:52.479 seen half of these like once, so it makes the 2476 01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:56.680 ranking particularly interesting, and I'm gonna say just treat it 2477 01:43:56.720 --> 01:43:57.239 makes it tricky. 2478 01:43:57.279 --> 01:43:58.199 It makes it really hard to do. 2479 01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:01.560 Or I feel very solid about like my top six 2480 01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:04.039 five or six, but then after that it becomes kind 2481 01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:06.000 of messy. So Dark Knight Rises I have in last place, 2482 01:44:06.720 --> 01:44:10.000 and then a tenth I have following. Number nine is 2483 01:44:10.039 --> 01:44:10.319 where I. 2484 01:44:10.359 --> 01:44:15.239 Put Batman begins, and then at number eight. 2485 01:44:15.279 --> 01:44:18.199 Is where I put Dunkirk, which I really should rewatch 2486 01:44:18.720 --> 01:44:20.920 all of these, but I really need to rewatch Dunkirk 2487 01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:23.560 it's been a while. Number seven is where I put 2488 01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:25.720 in Saw Me, which honestly, when I was looking through 2489 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:28.159 his IMDb to like, okay, make sure I got all 2490 01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:30.439 these movies on the list, I was like, fuck, I 2491 01:44:30.520 --> 01:44:33.880 completely forgot that movie exists, which is I guess kind 2492 01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:35.640 of fitting for what that movie is in a way. 2493 01:44:35.680 --> 01:44:38.800 But also I still I still like, when I thought 2494 01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:40.239 about it, I'm like, I think i'd still put it 2495 01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:42.600 about all these other ones that I mentioned below it 2496 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:45.600 just because I don't know, there's elements that I really 2497 01:44:45.600 --> 01:44:47.560 don't like about those other ones, whereas I feel like 2498 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:51.039 I just really enjoyed Insoma, even if it's somewhat forgettable. 2499 01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:55.840 Tenant is where I put Tenant, I put at number 2500 01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:59.119 six rather another one that needs to rewatch. For sure, 2501 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:01.520 I was gonna be sounding probably low for a lot 2502 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:04.720 of people. I'm gonna put The Dark Night at number five, 2503 01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:08.119 and I put Memento at number four, so quite a 2504 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:12.079 lot higher than mister kirkle Patzer Oppenheimer. 2505 01:45:12.119 --> 01:45:14.359 I put it number three, so very high for me 2506 01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:14.880 right now. 2507 01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:19.439 Yeah, I'm very curious to see how that goes on rewatches. 2508 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:21.800 I really only think that one's it's harder for it 2509 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:23.439 to go up because there's only two more spaces for 2510 01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:25.760 it to go. But I feel like I'll just enjoy 2511 01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:27.920 it more with each watch. But to be fair, a 2512 01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:29.640 lot of these other ones, I'm sure I would as well. 2513 01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.119 Interstellar at number two, which, yeah, I just rewatched that 2514 01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:35.840 one recently, and that definitely solidified because I think that 2515 01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:37.600 was still only the second time I've seen it, And yeah, 2516 01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:40.479 I just I love space as a setting. That movie 2517 01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:43.720 is so trippy and interesting and cool, and yeah, for me, 2518 01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:46.640 number one, Inception, without a doubt, that's for me. That's 2519 01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:49.199 the top ten favorite all time movie for me. 2520 01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:49.600 I love it. 2521 01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:51.600 So it's probably even top five. I love that movie 2522 01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:54.079 so so much. Go back to the retro to hear why, 2523 01:45:54.199 --> 01:45:55.359 but that movie. 2524 01:45:55.239 --> 01:45:59.119 Is so special, so cool, so stylish, such a great concept, 2525 01:45:59.520 --> 01:46:03.720 really fun, interesting characters, the soundtracks amazing. So yeah, that's 2526 01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:05.520 just one of my all time favorites. I've seen it 2527 01:46:05.880 --> 01:46:08.319 so many times and I'll always I'm always down to 2528 01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:09.800 rewatch it, no matter what mood I'm in. 2529 01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:12.720 Yeah, and don't forget that's a Golden Geek's Best of 2530 01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:15.239 the Decade. Twenty twenty is best film. Remember that's what 2531 01:46:15.279 --> 01:46:17.039 when the Golden Geek for the whole decade. 2532 01:46:17.119 --> 01:46:18.319 So yeah, well deserved. 2533 01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:21.439 Yeah, so I got Insomnia last. So the reason I 2534 01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:23.479 have there, I still I like all these movies. They're 2535 01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:25.960 all honestly, they're all like eight and above on that scale. 2536 01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:28.960 It's just that one feels the least like Nolan. He 2537 01:46:29.039 --> 01:46:31.600 also didn't write it. It's also like a remake of 2538 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:33.920 a foreign film, so it's just like I'm missing some 2539 01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:36.800 Nolan isms, and it's his first like big studio movies, 2540 01:46:36.840 --> 01:46:40.520 so it feels very much like a make this to 2541 01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:43.159 get to, you know, to a certain point. You know, 2542 01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:46.079 he's working with Williams and he's working with the Cheeto 2543 01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:48.960 and stuff, so I think it's kind of a test. Actually, 2544 01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.119 remember we're on there. That was two thousand and two, right, 2545 01:46:51.520 --> 01:46:53.920 so it comes after Memento. But still it just feels 2546 01:46:53.960 --> 01:46:56.600 like that's like he does. Memento gets some traction, he 2547 01:46:56.760 --> 01:46:58.840 gets insomnia, and because he handles it well, I like 2548 01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:00.720 that's what gets the Batman begins. So it's like, okay, 2549 01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:03.479 competent director, But yeah, I got and saw me there. 2550 01:47:03.560 --> 01:47:06.680 Then I got done Kirk eleven ten, I got Falling, 2551 01:47:06.680 --> 01:47:09.199 which is a fun like it's a it's very like 2552 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:12.720 baby Nolan, Like you can you can see Nolan there. 2553 01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:14.119 It's like you didn't have the budget to do what 2554 01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:16.399 he wants, but you can see isms that are gonna 2555 01:47:16.439 --> 01:47:19.680 happen later. On number nine, I got Tenant, number eight, 2556 01:47:19.720 --> 01:47:21.520 I got Momento, which is tough because all these I 2557 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:23.960 really like this was one. I go back and forth 2558 01:47:24.079 --> 01:47:27.079 between Memento and Rises. They're very close. I think my 2559 01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:29.520 only thing is Memento. I just never because I didn't 2560 01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:31.640 get to be on that retro. I always at this point, 2561 01:47:31.640 --> 01:47:33.800 I feel like the ending is very abruptive. We rushed 2562 01:47:33.800 --> 01:47:36.640 to the ending very quickly. Rises, I have some issues, 2563 01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:38.800 but there's just some enjoyment, kind of full circle stuff 2564 01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:42.159 I like there. Number six is Interseellar, which, like I 2565 01:47:42.199 --> 01:47:44.079 said this past time, I really liked watching. So I 2566 01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:46.560 don't know if it'll go up in the top five. 2567 01:47:46.600 --> 01:47:49.119 I got Oppenheimer there for now. I don't know if 2568 01:47:49.159 --> 01:47:52.520 it can go up any more, maybe over four, which 2569 01:47:52.520 --> 01:47:55.399 as Batman begins, it could because I think Oppenheimer's definitely 2570 01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:57.880 a better movie, but I think it's just a great 2571 01:47:57.960 --> 01:48:00.159 Batman origin. So that's where I'm kind of tough to 2572 01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:03.479 a Batman guy. And much like Kirk you're talking about 2573 01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:05.319 your one and two swapping, this is where I am 2574 01:48:05.399 --> 01:48:08.000 for two and three is three is Prestige, and then 2575 01:48:08.039 --> 01:48:11.000 two is Inception. Every time I watch Prestige, I'm like, oh, 2576 01:48:11.039 --> 01:48:13.600 that's easily number two, And then I watch Inception, they go, oh, 2577 01:48:13.680 --> 01:48:16.479 it's so I give Inception like the little bump over. 2578 01:48:16.640 --> 01:48:18.600 But I feel like you ask me every day of 2579 01:48:18.600 --> 01:48:20.640 the week and it changes because I love the character 2580 01:48:20.760 --> 01:48:23.479 dynamic you talk about Oppenheimer. Hugh Jackman is probably one 2581 01:48:23.479 --> 01:48:25.800 of my favorite examples of a character that's in the 2582 01:48:25.880 --> 01:48:27.680 gray area. If you just don't know how to feel 2583 01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:29.399 about this character at the end of the movie. And 2584 01:48:29.479 --> 01:48:31.600 then number one is TDK. I love Dark Knight. It's 2585 01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:33.920 the performance, is the scope. It was you know, we're 2586 01:48:33.920 --> 01:48:36.279 gonna talk about another movie later on, you know, on 2587 01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:38.600 the key for feed this to me was Nolan. Where 2588 01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:41.279 you can see k there's Nolan the director, and then 2589 01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:43.880 here's like I think, like, you don't get Inception unless 2590 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:45.600 you get The Dark Knight, because The Dark Knight was Okay, 2591 01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:48.439 here's him on this huge scale, learning all these things, 2592 01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:51.359 doing these things that Imax camera and then Sception you 2593 01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:53.359 got to come and be like, Okay, I got everything down. 2594 01:48:53.399 --> 01:48:56.079 And yeah, it's a still the still the greatest. It's tough. 2595 01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:58.600 I love The Batman, but it's it's I still got 2596 01:48:58.640 --> 01:49:01.399 it as my favorite. It's it's a joyous film. So 2597 01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:04.720 del muss final thoughts on OPI. 2598 01:49:05.520 --> 01:49:07.000 No, I mean I think that says it that I 2599 01:49:07.119 --> 01:49:10.159 put it at number three on you know, out out 2600 01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:13.199 of eleven for me because I'm missing Prestige. But yeah, 2601 01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:16.319 i'd said, a really big surprise for me. Yeah, I 2602 01:49:16.359 --> 01:49:19.680 did not expect to be coming away this hot, uh, 2603 01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:24.319 And I'm very pleasantly surprised by it and very excited 2604 01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:26.600 to rewatch it, especially even just knowing that how the 2605 01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:28.920 black and white scenes are supposed to be used. You know, 2606 01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.000 of course it's always up to the viewers interpretation, but 2607 01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:35.439 to know what Nolan thinks of those scenes, I'm excited 2608 01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:38.560 to rewatch this. I will definitely do so before Golden 2609 01:49:38.600 --> 01:49:40.840 Geeks this year, probably maybe even a couple of times, 2610 01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:43.800 even though it's long and intense. But yeah, I really 2611 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:46.000 really enjoyed this movie, really glad that. 2612 01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:48.760 I don't know what else to say. I love it. Yeah, 2613 01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:50.319 good to go, you tell it long. 2614 01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:52.800 It's so excited to get Tator's review because bad movies, 2615 01:49:52.960 --> 01:49:55.119 Oh it was long, like this is it is long. Yeah, 2616 01:49:55.159 --> 01:49:56.560 if he doesn't like this movie, this is This is 2617 01:49:56.600 --> 01:49:57.439 a real long one. 2618 01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.399 This is I guarantee you that's what he'll say. Yeah, 2619 01:49:59.439 --> 01:49:59.960 it's very long. 2620 01:50:00.600 --> 01:50:03.800 You never know and a half or no, there's sometimes 2621 01:50:03.840 --> 01:50:06.319 with some certain history. He's like a buff and so 2622 01:50:06.399 --> 01:50:08.479 if he's really into this air, like the ball making, 2623 01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:10.640 he's gonna be all over it. But I feel like 2624 01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:11.119 I've never. 2625 01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:13.600 Heard him about the bomb era making. Yeah, I've heard 2626 01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:14.439 him talk about. 2627 01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:17.039 But there's always stuff. But you remember, he just ramily 2628 01:50:17.079 --> 01:50:19.039 became like a maple Leaze fans like, oh really, I've 2629 01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:20.479 never heard you say the Shark. 2630 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:21.399 The Shark. 2631 01:50:21.439 --> 01:50:23.880 I was gonna say, I gotta defend him here the Shark. 2632 01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:25.960 Yeah, it's a shark. But like just one days again, 2633 01:50:25.960 --> 01:50:27.560 I love the Shark's my favorite team of all time. 2634 01:50:27.960 --> 01:50:29.960 I watch every game. It's like I've never come over 2635 01:50:30.079 --> 01:50:33.520 so you once a game on I cruised, It's always 2636 01:50:33.560 --> 01:50:36.319 on the backgrounds like yeah, whatever, Then. 2637 01:50:35.960 --> 01:50:39.279 He back pedals. Playoffs, playoffs, the last. 2638 01:50:39.159 --> 01:50:41.279 Game I played in the video game. That's pretty much 2639 01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:44.359 what it is. You know, he's watching those games. Current pass. 2640 01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:47.880 What would you give this one? Yeah? Yeah? 2641 01:50:47.920 --> 01:50:50.000 I Like I said before, I feel like I just 2642 01:50:50.079 --> 01:50:53.760 had such high expectations enjoyment wise, and unfortunately it just 2643 01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:56.800 didn't quite didn't quite reach that. But that doesn't that 2644 01:50:56.920 --> 01:50:59.560 that doesn't say anything against the quality of what the 2645 01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:02.439 film is. I I do truly think that this is 2646 01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:05.199 just like a ten out of ten quality of just 2647 01:51:05.439 --> 01:51:08.680 just everything. It's so well done. But for my personal score, 2648 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:12.159 I feel like like it's it says like it feels 2649 01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:13.640 weird not giving it like a perfect ten out of ten, 2650 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:16.720 because like that's what I see it as for quality purposes. 2651 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:18.920 But my enjoyment just isn't quite there. So probably like 2652 01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:20.960 nine point five just just to be a little just 2653 01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:24.239 just to be that guy. Yeah exactly, because like yeah, 2654 01:51:24.399 --> 01:51:27.079 like if someone asked me how how great the movie is, 2655 01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:29.880 it's just like, yeah, it's it's exceptionally well done. 2656 01:51:30.319 --> 01:51:33.239 Uh not my favorite Olan movie, So I think I'll 2657 01:51:33.279 --> 01:51:33.800 leave it it there. 2658 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:37.520 Yeah, it's really really just long awaited to like it 2659 01:51:37.680 --> 01:51:39.720 seems so long ago from when I first got that 2660 01:51:39.840 --> 01:51:41.359 like teaser thing, you know, we're joking about like the 2661 01:51:41.439 --> 01:51:47.279 countdown things. 2662 01:51:45.399 --> 01:51:48.279 Take them that stupid video of a changing every hour 2663 01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:51.039 like it's, hey, it works, walks up. But I just laughed, 2664 01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:53.239 like I wonder if they'll do that again, because I 2665 01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:55.000 can't wait to see what Nolan does next, because he's 2666 01:51:55.079 --> 01:51:58.920 uh even just studio wise, I still think he's gonna 2667 01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:01.359 do Bond. That's still my guess. I really feel he's 2668 01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:03.079 even been talking about in Prescon like, oh it being 2669 01:52:03.079 --> 01:52:06.079 an honor. I just feel like, you know, people see this, 2670 01:52:06.279 --> 01:52:09.960 they see the success of Oppenheimer. He's a massive Bond fan. 2671 01:52:10.079 --> 01:52:11.239 I feel like that's the plot. 2672 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:12.880 Time to go back to IP as well. 2673 01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.119 Perhaps, Yeah, And it's like I think it's the one 2674 01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:17.199 eyep because he said again it was weird. He said 2675 01:52:17.239 --> 01:52:19.800 superhowed music? I said no. They asked what Star Wars films? 2676 01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:22.039 He said no comment, which I found very surprising. Why 2677 01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:23.640 wouldn't he just say no? So I don't know, but 2678 01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:26.119 I don't think Disney's in the state to I wouldn't 2679 01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:28.319 see that pairing. I could see Disney locking him down 2680 01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:30.840 for an original movie. I would never see them locking 2681 01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:33.079 him down for Star Wars. But Bond, I think is 2682 01:52:33.600 --> 01:52:36.319 I think that that's my Traves told you prediction. We'll 2683 01:52:36.359 --> 01:52:37.000 see if what happens. 2684 01:52:37.079 --> 01:52:40.760 But I am happy to say the like it's not 2685 01:52:40.880 --> 01:52:43.560 like I'm in that stage of being like, ah, yeah, no, 2686 01:52:43.720 --> 01:52:45.640 I feel like Nolan's kind of done his best work. 2687 01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:48.279 I still truly believe that that is possibly ahead, which 2688 01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:50.439 is crazy just looking back on what he's done, and 2689 01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:53.439 it's nice just seeing this and it's like, yeah, I'm 2690 01:52:53.439 --> 01:52:55.800 still very excited for the next Nolan project. He's still 2691 01:52:55.880 --> 01:52:56.439 my favorite. 2692 01:52:56.920 --> 01:52:59.159 Yeah back on top, Yeah no. 2693 01:52:59.439 --> 01:53:01.760 Yeah, good hand up there, same thing. Yeah, no, all 2694 01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:04.319 my favorite guy. And he proved it again here. I've 2695 01:53:04.359 --> 01:53:05.760 said what I need to said, got to give it 2696 01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:08.439 the ten out of ten. I don't really have many critiques, 2697 01:53:08.479 --> 01:53:11.319 maybe on another one, but I, uh yeah, this is 2698 01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:13.880 definitely one that for golden geeks, Potama, but definitely for 2699 01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:15.600 like when I get to Oscar season, this is what 2700 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.479 I got my like on right now. I really, I 2701 01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:20.640 really hope this can get Nola on that big trophy. 2702 01:53:20.720 --> 01:53:22.840 I think he does want you know, he's been close, 2703 01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:25.560 and I think he's you know, again, this is the 2704 01:53:25.720 --> 01:53:27.720 man because Dark Knight didn't get nominated. This is the 2705 01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:29.920 guy that made it so the Oscars have ten movies 2706 01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:31.800 because everyone's like, oh, we really should put in the 2707 01:53:31.880 --> 01:53:33.920 Dark Knight and I was like, we kind of screwed 2708 01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:36.359 up there. So it's like a full circle moment for 2709 01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:38.359 me if he can get that. And I feel this 2710 01:53:38.520 --> 01:53:41.840 is we talk about these performances and the legacy of 2711 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:44.600 the Oppenheimer, but he also with those spices of talking 2712 01:53:44.600 --> 01:53:47.560 about chemistry and the bombs. He spices in those Nolan 2713 01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:50.279 moments right of the grand scale and even sci fi 2714 01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:51.840 stuff like you're talking about like when it's like the 2715 01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:53.920 inside of a bomb and you see the particles. It's 2716 01:53:53.960 --> 01:53:55.720 like You've need so many movies where they'll just talk 2717 01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:57.520 about the bomb and you don't get that and they're scary. 2718 01:53:57.560 --> 01:54:00.520 They'll be like Jesus are loud, and then you get 2719 01:54:00.560 --> 01:54:02.800 the ball, you know. And again, I also feel like 2720 01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:05.039 the best thing is it's Nolan's still doing some other 2721 01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:07.800 things that he hasn't done before, or there's spins on 2722 01:54:07.920 --> 01:54:09.920 things he's done before. That's the best thing when it's 2723 01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:13.439 a director still doing a variation of his work. So yeah, 2724 01:54:13.560 --> 01:54:16.520 definitely one of my favorites of the year. So yeah, 2725 01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:19.239 great time. And I can't you know, can't wait see 2726 01:54:19.239 --> 01:54:20.960 what no one does next every time, you know, I'm 2727 01:54:21.199 --> 01:54:22.039 very happy about this. 2728 01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:25.239 So I'm so curious, Like now, I'm actually excited to 2729 01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:28.520 see where this ends up on like the Oscars stuff, 2730 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:30.560 and like, for the first time ever, I'm I'm like, man, 2731 01:54:30.600 --> 01:54:32.840 they better win editing, like, which is something I never 2732 01:54:32.960 --> 01:54:35.920 really care or think about, I guess, but I'm like, man, 2733 01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:38.960 this was so well edited in particular that I hope 2734 01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:40.840 it wins that I think it definitely in some of 2735 01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:43.119 those other categories at the very least, but who knows 2736 01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:44.239 well to see what the competition is. 2737 01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:46.640 Of course, Yeah, I think picture. I think killing can 2738 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:48.680 actually get his first one, which would be great. But yeah, 2739 01:54:48.760 --> 01:54:51.239 it'll be the big talking point in October because right 2740 01:54:51.279 --> 01:54:53.760 now the big duels this and Marty's next film with 2741 01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:55.920 Leo and Denaro, that's like the other one people have seen, 2742 01:54:55.960 --> 01:54:57.600 like okay, look out, so it's gonna come down to 2743 01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:00.479 those two in the Duke group. But yeah, couple then 2744 01:55:00.520 --> 01:55:02.000 the Fall, talk about a bunch of stuff. Thank you 2745 01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:03.680 very much for tuning into this. You know, not a 2746 01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:05.600 full open higher review, but hit the two hour mark 2747 01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:07.239 pretty much so close. 2748 01:55:07.960 --> 01:55:08.520 The third act. 2749 01:55:08.880 --> 01:55:11.279 Yeah, yeah, we end right when he's at the flag. Yeah, 2750 01:55:11.520 --> 01:55:15.600 like that's the act exactly. Yeah, because we got some 2751 01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:17.840 good ratings there, a lot of people agree and everything. 2752 01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:20.199 So yeah, thank you very much for tuning in. Check 2753 01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:22.359 out the bar review and vice versa. Check everything else 2754 01:55:22.399 --> 01:55:24.079 in the feed. Good week coming up, and we promise 2755 01:55:24.119 --> 01:55:25.039 you will not be boring. 2756 01:55:25.239 --> 01:55:29.279 Bye bye, I can't find my mouse. 2757 01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:29.680 There is