WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog? 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 My dog. We're flying through the or over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.479 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 14 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:04.799 Jesus quice you better, y Hello, hit somebody out here? 15 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:07.040 What quin on the out there? It's got a bitches 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:10.480 about pick for nine? I don't know easy out there. Yeah, 17 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.519 I'm welcome right head. 18 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.040 Oh greetings, thanks for joining me. Today is bread and Alaska. 19 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:18.159 What I wanted to share today is an example of 20 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:24.560 how superstitious beliefs are perpetuated and continue. It'll give a 21 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:28.879 better understanding regardless of coincidences and what have you. It's 22 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:31.879 one of those things where it's something that's held on 23 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:36.239 to very strongly because of situations. So Joseph, this was 24 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:39.959 back in nineteen eighty seven. Joseph, he was early twenties 25 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:42.400 at the time, Bristol Bay Boy. I won't get into 26 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:46.120 the exact specifics of where at whatever, that's irrelevant. He 27 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:48.480 was at fish Camp. It was on one of the 28 00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:50.560 major beaches where a lot of set and etters do 29 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.200 their thing down there. He had a couple of younger 30 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:56.239 cousins visiting from out of state because of some other 31 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:58.640 relatives that his moved out of state had kids and 32 00:01:58.680 --> 00:01:59.719 they never been to Alaska. 33 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:01.079 So our first trip to visit. 34 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:04.280 So there was about a five day closure in the 35 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.560 period and fishing season. He decided he's going to take 36 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:09.960 these young cousins on the skiff and take them up 37 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:12.400 to Togyak River and then up to Togak Lake just 38 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.800 to check out the wilds of Alaska, maybe see a bear, 39 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:16.680 something like that, exciting moose, whatever. 40 00:02:17.039 --> 00:02:20.360 So they take off. He makes his web the river 41 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:21.319 and web up the river. 42 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.080 They were able to see a couple of bears and 43 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.240 stuff like that, so it was real exciting. 44 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:26.199 It was a beautiful day. 45 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.400 Joseph said that his young cousins were very eager to 46 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:32.560 get closer to a bear but not be in danger. 47 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:35.159 And he said, look, we're not going to do any 48 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:38.280 such thing. We got close enough, you saw him. That's 49 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.919 what it is. We're not going to tempt anything. So 50 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:42.840 they get up to Toyak Lake and this is near 51 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.879 an area where a couple other guys had some issues. 52 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:48.680 So they end up on basically the north side of 53 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.199 the lake and it runs at an angle or what 54 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:51.639 have you. 55 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:54.039 So anyway, they were on the northernmost side of the lake. 56 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:58.319 They pulled up the shore and he shortened anchor, tied 57 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:00.960 it off and stuck it up in the ground. Where 58 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.240 they were at there was a bunch of tall grass around, 59 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:05.840 so he went up top, had a shotgun and made 60 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:08.199 sure that there was no immediate dangers or whatever. Because 61 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:11.560 his cousins wanted to try sport fishing for trout, he 62 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.199 got them geared up, had him right there on the 63 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.199 shore and they were casting away having a good time, 64 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.039 not catching anything because it wasn't really a good spot 65 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.919 for fishing right there. He just wanted them to have fun, 66 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.759 and so Joseph said he was just standing guard with 67 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.039 the shotgun as they were doing so heard a strange 68 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.840 whistle from behind him, right, so he got his attention. 69 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:31.800 He turned around. He figured see a local. 70 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.319 Village or something coming through from doing whatever. Looks around, 71 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:37.520 because he said it sounded like a human whistle, just 72 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.599 getting his attention to just a couple of short whistles. 73 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.439 He's looking around, he's not seeing anything. His little cousins 74 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:44.599 are all wrapped up in what they're doing. They're about 75 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.960 twelve and fifteen. They weren't paying attention, so they thought 76 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:48.919 he was one whistling. 77 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:49.199 Right. 78 00:03:49.719 --> 00:03:53.360 So he's about fifteen feet behind them, offset off to 79 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.719 their left hand side as they're fishing from shore, and 80 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:58.080 he's just keeping an eye out. A little while later, 81 00:03:58.120 --> 00:03:59.919 he here's a whistle again, so he turns around and 82 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.280 he asks the kids, Hey, you guys over there whistling 83 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.039 and they're like, no, we thought you were whistling. So 84 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:08.120 he's hun so he starts looking around. He gets a 85 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.560 real bad sickening feeling. And you guys, get your gear, 86 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.719 get in the skiff, they said, okay, So they get 87 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.759 the fishing poles into the skiff and what have you. 88 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:19.480 And he's standing with the shotgun and he's looking in 89 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:21.920 the direction of where this whistle could have came from, 90 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.839 because he said it sounded relatively close, within maybe thirty 91 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:29.439 forty feet. And he's looking around and he notices darkness 92 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.079 within the grass. Right sees this dark movement in the grass. 93 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.439 So immediately he's that's a bear because that's all his 94 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.399 reference point, the height of it at the time, the 95 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:42.839 distance and just seeing darkness movement in the grass, most 96 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:46.480 logical thing. Tells the kids, Hey, come grab this anchor. 97 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.480 Put the anchor in the skiff. I'll be right there. 98 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.279 Just get that anchor in the skiff. You guys, get 99 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.680 in the skiff and I'll be right there. So he's 100 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.439 standing guard, he hears the anchor hit the skiff, so 101 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:58.040 he turns around and goes over to the skiff and 102 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.279 the boys are in there. The boys went to the 103 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:01.519 back of the skiff. It so happened. 104 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:03.160 They were in pretty shallow stuff right there. 105 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.160 And so when he goes to push, the stern kind 106 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:08.519 of dug in right, and so he's come forward a 107 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:10.120 little bit because the weight he had to shift it 108 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:11.879 to bring it make a little more buoyant in the back. 109 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:14.920 This is a big ass, heavy aluminum skiff custom built 110 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:16.000 for setting net fishing. 111 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.480 Pull The net across the bow. It's not just a 112 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:19.600 standard fishing boat. 113 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:23.360 And so they come forward and he's looking over his 114 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:25.000 shoulder and once a while, but he had the shotgun 115 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:27.639 into the bow, right, he's looking back every once in 116 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.000 a while, and the kids move forward, and as they're 117 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.240 coming forward, they both stop and the eyes get real big. 118 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.639 So immediately he grabs a shotgun and turns around because 119 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:37.560 he figures the bears right there as he turns around, 120 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:39.759 because it's a little bit higher of a bank. So 121 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:43.759 he said, he's five foot seven, so standing the bank 122 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:45.879 would have came up to about the top of his chest, 123 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.240 tight difference between the water and the bank, and he 124 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:51.160 turned around. He didn't see anything, and he tells the boys, 125 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.759 what the hell, that's not funny, and they both were 126 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:55.120 just quiet and in shock. 127 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:57.800 Right, he goes back up a little bit, so he. 128 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.639 Turns around, puts the gun back in, pushes off, jumps in. 129 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:02.800 He gets to the back of the skiff, drops a 130 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:05.759 kicker down right, fires it up, and starts reversing out 131 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:08.720 real slow, because again it's pretty shallow and he didn't 132 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.279 want to damage his prop or anything like that. 133 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:11.800 He still had fishing season to deal with. 134 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.560 And as he's backing up his cousins, he mess went 135 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.000 about ten fifteen feet, he said, and his cousin's light up. 136 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:19.959 Screaming why. 137 00:06:20.160 --> 00:06:24.240 He turns around and looks and sees this dark object 138 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:25.759 right looking through the grass. 139 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:26.680 Right. He said. 140 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.199 His hands were down, and he said there were hands, 141 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:32.360 big hands. It looked like cave man, but it was 142 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:36.439 dark ashen gray, almost to the point where you'd start 143 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:37.639 calling it. I'm almost black. 144 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:37.879 Right. 145 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.079 He was in shock, and the kicker is still running. 146 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:45.000 He said he'd just had this weird shock, like tunnel vision. 147 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.519 And this thing's looking at the kids at this time 148 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.040 that they's still moving backwards. The outboard had started kicking 149 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:53.480 on the side because he was zoning, and it had 150 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.240 dawned on him. Oh, I need attend to the outboard. 151 00:06:56.240 --> 00:06:58.639 He straightened out. As they're back and way, he tells 152 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.040 the kids, get down, get down, Get low. 153 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:02.720 Kids, got low. 154 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.519 He put it in neutral, ran forward, grabbed a shotgun 155 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:08.360 because he left it laying right in front of the bow. 156 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.279 Grabbed a shotgun, raised it up, started yelling get out 157 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:13.680 of here, get out of here, because he said this 158 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.959 thing looked like ak man, like a Neanderthal, and was 159 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:20.199 just giving this evil stare. And he said he raised 160 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.360 the shotgun and it folted, took off. He said it 161 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.600 was on all it looked like it was hunched over 162 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.199 on all fours deal for a little bit, disappeared into 163 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:30.120 the grass and he'd seen it standing up and running 164 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:32.920 off into's some trees off to the left, about maybe 165 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.279 a hundred yards away, and he said it was gone. 166 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:37.480 Freaked him out. Kids were screaming still. 167 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.000 He was telling him calm down, goes to the back 168 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.759 of the skiff, puts it in forward and does a 169 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:45.800 big loop and comes back just to get see if 170 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:47.600 it was still around there. Because he was in shock. 171 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:49.879 He was like, what the hell. He figured there is 172 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.079 a safe distance. His cousins are freaking out, crying and stuff. 173 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.040 He's calm down, we're safe, we're safe, we got a gun. 174 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.000 We're offshore. And so the kids get up and start 175 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.560 looking around two and they were stays and real low 176 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.079 heads barely above the freeboard on the side on the 177 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.519 side of the skiff. The way the skiff was set 178 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.079 up towards the bow, there's a couple small rollers here 179 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.720 and a couple of small rollers here, so where they 180 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.199 could pull the net up over the bow and run 181 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.560 it along the front of the skiff and pick the 182 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.000 fish out. 183 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.240 And there's bins, just small bins on the. 184 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:21.199 Sides where they put their fish bags in for offloading. 185 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:22.360 And all that. So the kids were low enough. 186 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.199 They're holding onto the side of the bin and looking 187 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.240 over and they're watching and watching, and one of the 188 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:29.360 he said it was the youngest one point and said 189 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:29.839 it's right there. 190 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:30.439 It's right there. 191 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:34.159 And sure enough, as he looks over, he notices this 192 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:37.240 thing and it's in the same position it was when 193 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:38.519 he saw it and grabbed the gun. 194 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:40.799 So he turned sideways. 195 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.399 As they're staring at this thing, the wind's pushing them 196 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.000 towards shore, and he wasn't going to have any of that. 197 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:48.600 So he yelled again and he picks up the shotgun 198 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:52.360 and pops around, not even in its direction, just off 199 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.720 the side boom, and he said it stood up. 200 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:57.879 And he said when it stood up, it was huge. 201 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:00.679 The silhouette that outline of it, and it was down 202 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:01.080 in the. 203 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.360 Grass, was just barely out of the grass like it 204 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:06.240 was when he first saw it. He said, when this 205 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:08.919 thing stood up after he popped around in the air, 206 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:12.080 he said, it was massive. It was every bit of 207 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.759 like ten leven feet tall, four and a half five 208 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:19.080 foot wide and hulky. And he said it just looked 209 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:23.279 like he got the sense of disgust, like hatred and disgust. 210 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:26.759 Those are his words. I always ask people, how'd you feel? 211 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:29.320 He said, after he shot and it stood up and 212 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.679 he got that, you know that feeling, he said. It 213 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:36.000 wasn't a very long mere seconds and this thing turned 214 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:39.039 and walked away, just casually like a Sunday store, just 215 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:41.639 walked away. Kid started freaking out again when it stood 216 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.399 up right, but he was in such tunnel vision shock. 217 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.320 Their screams didn't come back into focus until this thing 218 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:50.399 was started walking away and he came out of that 219 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.600 little bit of a transfer, tells him quiet down, grabs 220 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.279 a hold of the outboard arm, puts Beck in drive, 221 00:09:56.399 --> 00:10:00.720 and they head out of there. So random urns they 222 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:03.480 had no control over it. Now he gets them back 223 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.120 to fish camp and everything. They get back and there's 224 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.759 about four other family members there. One is their dad, 225 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:14.240 the other is his brother, and another cousin. So when 226 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.159 he gets back, the kids are already telling me, we 227 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:19.080 saw harry Man, we saw harry Man this, and that 228 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:21.440 it was bigfoot this and that right, and so they 229 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:24.279 asked Joseph, hey, what the hell what's going on? And 230 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:26.600 he said yeah and told him everything I just shared 231 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.919 with you. And his brother says a little bit later, tomorrow, 232 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:32.679 let's go back over that. I want to check that 233 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:36.080 area out. This is Joseph's younger brother, late teen. Joseph 234 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:37.919 was like, we got a closure, I guess, so we'll 235 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:39.879 bring more guns and I ain't going to shore. 236 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.120 Brothers. Don't worry about it. We'll be okay. 237 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.519 I said, all right, So next day I type pum, 238 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.639 They're gone. They get back up there, and the whole 239 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:50.679 way up his brother kept asking him to slow down 240 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:52.879 because he wanted to see around. He wanted to not 241 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.000 miss anything, and he kept he was like, I'm just 242 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.279 going to where it was, that's it, because Joseph didn't 243 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.440 want any part of it. So he gets up there 244 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:04.360 and when they get to the same spot, his brother's 245 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.159 hold on his brother. Instead of grabbing the bow line 246 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.440 with the anchor, he just jumped off the skid with 247 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.200 his rifle and ran up the bank right, and he's 248 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.679 looking around. Joseph's, hey, come get the anchor. What the 249 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.759 hell it goes? I'm just checking make sure it's safe. 250 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:21.039 First said all right, So he comes grabs anchor sticks 251 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.679 it in the ground. He basically stuck it in the 252 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.360 same spot where Joseph had it, right, And his brother's 253 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:27.840 up there looking around and goes, get up here and 254 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:31.480 help me. And so Joseph reluctantly grabs his shotgun and 255 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.360 gets up on the shore with his brother. His brother 256 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:38.679 had thirty odd six, and so his brother is basically 257 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:40.960 walking the direction you could see in the grass where 258 00:11:40.960 --> 00:11:45.440 this thing made its bolt earlier the day before. And 259 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:47.960 Joseph told his brother, Hey, we shouldn't be doing this. 260 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:51.200 His brother goes, don't worry, we're both armed. When Joseph 261 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:53.159 was like, hey, this thing was real low to the 262 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:54.840 ground when it whistled at me. I don't know if 263 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:56.279 we'll be able to see it in this tall grass 264 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:57.600 because they aren't like the saw grass man. 265 00:11:57.639 --> 00:11:59.399 Its up to their shoulders. They can barely see over 266 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:00.840 the top of it. 267 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:04.399 Dangerous conditions when you got something creeping around a bearer otherwise, 268 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.840 So his brother just one track minded he starts following, 269 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.639 and Joseph reluctantly is few paces behind him, maybe fifteen 270 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.399 twenty feet, he said, And he said, there's a bunch 271 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:17.840 of alders before the rest of the trees, where this 272 00:12:17.879 --> 00:12:20.000 thing had bolted towards the tree line the day before. 273 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.039 He said, as they were getting close to it, his 274 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:26.120 brother was about ten feet from this wall of brush. 275 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.279 Because this Alaska, it just grows thick. 276 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:30.720 His brother turns towards him and looks at him and goes, 277 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:32.320 I don't feel safe. 278 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.919 Maybe we shouldn't be here. Those words came out of 279 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:35.399 his mouth. 280 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.960 And a stick He wasn't sure where it came from, 281 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:43.480 but it just boom and hit on the ground by them. 282 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:45.559 He said, he doesn't know where the stick came from. 283 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.440 It looked like an old piece dead birch towards the top. 284 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.120 They both saw that, and they turn and book it 285 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:56.120 back towards the skiff. Now, as they're running along, Joseph 286 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:00.120 Lessay was motivated. He had covered way more ground and 287 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.320 his brother because his brother kept turning around. Joseph was 288 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:06.279 so freaked out. He wasn't hearing everything his brother was. 289 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:10.360 His brother was behind him, was hearing grunts and just 290 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.120 this weird thrashing around like it was come out of 291 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.679 the brush, and Joseph didn't hear it because he's out 292 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:16.159 of there right. 293 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:19.240 The only thing that stopped Joseph was hearing his brother's 294 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:23.200 scream and then here's a gunshot. Bam. Turns around. 295 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:28.480 His brother is about thirty yards behind him and standing 296 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:30.960 there pointing his gun into the brush, and all he 297 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:32.840 saw was brush moving, and he said, get come on, 298 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.240 let's go. Let's go, and he goes. He tried to 299 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.559 run out at me. I'm not turning my back on it. 300 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.799 So Joseph gets a little closer and says, walk backwards. 301 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.000 I'm gonna watch with you, and I have my gun ready. 302 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.799 His brother's walking backwards, and as he's doing so, he 303 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:49.000 just turns to run to catch up to his brother 304 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.799 real quick. Since he calmed down a little bit, he 305 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.480 turns his back and starts running. Another stick comes flying, 306 00:13:55.919 --> 00:13:57.840 and Joseph said it was a Dannis, saying it looked 307 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:02.240 like the brush opened real quick. Stick flung and brush closed. 308 00:14:02.279 --> 00:14:04.279 It was like he said, it happened real fast. And 309 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.879 this stick was looked like a bigger end of the 310 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.639 same broken one piece of spruce or whatever it was, pine, 311 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.200 whatever it was, came flying and almost hit his brother right. 312 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:18.960 His brother freaked out again. Joseph said, keep running his 313 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:22.360 brother stumbled, fell down, popped back up, and he's facing 314 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:25.039 the trees again and the brush is moving. His brother 315 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:27.399 just back an buyers a shot into the brush. They 316 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.360 hear the sound tear off, and he said it sounded 317 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.360 like a freight train, and it got about he's guessing 318 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.919 maybe fifty yards this thrashing noise, and then a loud 319 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:40.799 scream wow, and then went high pitched. So they turned 320 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:44.559 and they both bolt to the skiff right, he said. 321 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.679 When they got over to the skiff, his little brother 322 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.919 was in the skiff already and had a gun trained 323 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.480 in the direction of the tree line. Joseph grabbed the anchor, 324 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.840 put it in, set the shotgun down and pushed out, 325 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.039 got past his brother, fired up the outboard, backed out slow, 326 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:00.720 got into deeper water, put it in, and they did 327 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:02.919 a big loop like he did the day before, that 328 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.159 big loop as he was coming back around and straightened 329 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:08.279 back out about a couple hundred yards from shore, facing 330 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.840 the direction of that tree line. This stick what looked 331 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.559 like the bigger one. They've seen it flinging through the air. 332 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:19.039 And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. 333 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:20.799 We'll be right back after the east. 334 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:26.879 Messages and it lands right in front of the skiff, 335 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.039 hitting the water. His little brother looked back at him 336 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.279 and said, fuck that, let's go cut out there right 337 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:38.039 then it back at camp, and that day the little 338 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:41.240 cousins were going somewhere else, visiting some other relatives in Alaska. 339 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:45.799 Within three days of them seeing this thing with their 340 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:48.759 cousin and then leaving in Joseph and his brother going 341 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:49.360 the next day. 342 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.879 It was actually the day Joseph and his brother left. 343 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.279 They left camp to go visit other relatives in the state, 344 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:01.600 but within three days, the youngest cousin and up drowning coincidentally, 345 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.559 when they're playing by a river visiting other relatives, younger 346 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.559 cousin passed away rip one of the elders who heard 347 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:11.759 about what had happened. 348 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:12.759 Here, they saw it. 349 00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:15.840 They came back, and then Joseph and brothers sought it out. 350 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:19.519 He heard about that and came told Joseph, this is 351 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:23.519 what happens when you go after him. You caused your 352 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.360 little cousin to die. That's a bad omen. You caused 353 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.279 that bad omen and Joseph didn't own it. It's coincidental, 354 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:36.120 but that is an example of how those superstitious things perpetuate. 355 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:37.919 I can't dispute it. 356 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.000 I can have a logical argument against it with coincidentally 357 00:16:41.120 --> 00:16:44.320 what have you, But that doesn't matter when it's viewed 358 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.399 under that lens of you did this it caused that. 359 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.399 It's cut and dry, and a lot of people's minds 360 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:54.159 that share that same superstitious belief about bad omens bringing 361 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.039 it upon yourself when you seek them out. 362 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.720 I started somewhere. I would never disrespect it. 363 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.159 I don't necessarily agree, However, that's not my place to 364 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.559 tell them they're wrong or anything like that. I just 365 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:08.359 I come from the standpoint of public safety. There's little 366 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:12.119 nuances with each and every encounter that can help someone 367 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:15.519 who hasn't had an experience avoid one, and that's the 368 00:17:15.559 --> 00:17:19.160 main goal, that's overall driving force. But I just wanted 369 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.039 to share an example, a real life example of how 370 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.480 that superstitious belief continues to get perpetuated in ways. Here 371 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:30.759 and there again rest in peace to his little cousin. Again, 372 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:33.119 Joseph didn't own it. It wasn't in his enough. His 373 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.039 cousin drowned with him in the skiff. He said, of 374 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.200 course he'd feel horrible, but that wasn't the case. He 375 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.839 wasn't even near him and whatnot, so he didn't own it, thankfully, 376 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.680 but still that's an example of how superstitious beliefs can 377 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:49.240 be held onto. Wrong or indifferent, coincidental, what have you. 378 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:53.000 It doesn't matter. It's viewed as you went after it. 379 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:57.559 This happened because of it. Yeah, crying shame. 380 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.200 Today heard from Mayr cousin Niico. Like Chris, he's still 381 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.559 under the weather. He's doing a lot better, but he 382 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:07.599 really doesn't feel like being recorded or any of that. However, 383 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:11.440 he gave me permission to use his name share his experience. 384 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:14.480 This happened just a couple of years ago. He went 385 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.400 up on the New Yek Couk with a couple other relatives. 386 00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.400 They were going to go up there and just look around, 387 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.559 do some I think they were woodland caribou, looking for 388 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:25.720 caribou or something, just scouting around. It was in the fall, 389 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:31.240 probably early September, I think he said mid sept probably 390 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:32.920 right around the same time of year I was up 391 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.519 there in six Anyway, they ended up staying at the 392 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:39.759 very first Sam Accounting little cabin, which is bigger than 393 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:41.839 the one we stayed in. Further after New York Cook 394 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:44.880 by the New York Cook Falls, so they were when 395 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:47.799 they had got there, and this particular shock counting shack 396 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:52.079 had an actual shed and it also had the bunk house. 397 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:54.359 So when they got there, there was some other guys 398 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:58.799 there in the bunk house, and they just left them alone. 399 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:02.799 They gott in that shed. It happened the year before 400 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:05.440 that story I shared with you about the guys leaving 401 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:08.079