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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app. Maybe you didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>Gary's dog, Peter, did not believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bible, or he believed in it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he believed in it so much. He wanted it inside.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted the word wow in him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really deep. Based on what I've seen in his eyes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, no, what what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted with the yoga block, He also wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>yoga He felt so strongly about yoga, he wanted it

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<v Speaker 1>inside as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it was a funny texture in his mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>more more so than the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got another crazy RFK junior story. We know about

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<v Speaker 1>the bear carcass, the whale carcass. Now, Caroline Kennedy is

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<v Speaker 1>uh his cousins, as you all know, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>this anecdote that he enjoyed showing off how he put

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<v Speaker 1>baby chickens and mice in a blender to feed his hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>She says it was a perverse scene of despair and violence.

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<v Speaker 1>And to that, I say, Caroline, that's awful. That's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not have liked to see that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>had to come to the party before the beer. The

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<v Speaker 1>bear carcass and the whale carcass, and the blood raining

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<v Speaker 1>down inside into his children's mouths inside the car. That

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was that they took the cake. The bear and

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<v Speaker 1>the whale took the cake. The baby chickens and the mice.

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<v Speaker 1>Very disturbing, but not on par with the bear and

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<v Speaker 1>the whale.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, it's no surprise that he keeps birds of

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<v Speaker 3>prey as pets because he himself is a predator.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, got a lot of problems in that family, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of problems. No money, no problem.

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<v Speaker 3>His confirmation, by the way, is Thursday. He can only

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<v Speaker 3>afford to lose three Republican votes. We already know Bill

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<v Speaker 3>Cassidy and Mitch McConnell have expressed concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>They haven't come out right and said no.

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<v Speaker 3>And an op piece in the New York Post, which

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<v Speaker 3>is traditionally pretty conservative and lately has been going basically

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<v Speaker 3>along with everything that Trump wants. There's an op ed

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<v Speaker 3>piece asking senators to deny him the ability to become

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary of Health.

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<v Speaker 2>And Human services.

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<v Speaker 1>Well is that because of the abortion thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Very much?

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<v Speaker 4>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what else is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Time four? What's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the eping is.

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<v Speaker 5>Water damage, fire damage merglery called public adjuster abner gap

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<v Speaker 5>eight one eight nine one seven, five two five six.

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<v Speaker 1>The LA Fire Department is not going away and they

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't well, I mean in terms of their argument that

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<v Speaker 1>they are underpaid and understaffed. I mean the different states

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<v Speaker 1>of dilapidation have been publicized of fire stations in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>the funding cuts, the staff, and all of it has

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<v Speaker 1>been out there since these fires are ravaged through the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 1>even as Altadina fires continue to burn as well. This

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be something that is a focus at

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<v Speaker 1>city Hall for the foreseeable future.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a thing that I think might come as

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<v Speaker 3>a result of this cleaning out lifelong politicians in local politics,

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<v Speaker 3>cleaning them out.

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<v Speaker 1>That clean out all the crooks who know how to

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<v Speaker 1>steal money from the public coffers. They are practicing it,

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<v Speaker 1>they are learned in it, they were apprentices in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they are masters at it, stealing money instead

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<v Speaker 1>of staffing fire departments to where they should be staffed.

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<v Speaker 1>They're stealing your money to do with whatever they want

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it so that they can get their

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<v Speaker 1>back scratched on the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the unfortunate part about that.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as I support what we're talking about and

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<v Speaker 3>cleaning out, there are some people in politics who are

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<v Speaker 3>good hearted people who are going to suffer the consequences below.

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<v Speaker 1>Need no. I almost said the full word, you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you show me a good person in government in LA

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm saying that there's got to be somebody and untedward.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody who's not ding around with the public money, still

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<v Speaker 1>bright eyed and bushy tailed, and yeah, find me that

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<v Speaker 1>person and bring them to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Metrolink had to temporarily hald service on three lines. LADWP

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<v Speaker 3>crews were working to clear some lines because they had

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<v Speaker 3>fallen onto the tracks. They said they were unable to

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<v Speaker 3>release all the tracks at this time. But so if

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<v Speaker 3>you're the track is also impacting the Amtrak Pacific surf

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<v Speaker 3>Liner service and affecting Union Pacific freight movement as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The doomsday clock, the clock that means not means nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>moves closer to midnight. Climate change, nuclear war, pandemics AI

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<v Speaker 1>We're all screwed, and we're close to completely screwed, more

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<v Speaker 1>close than usual. We have the doomstay clock moving closer

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<v Speaker 1>to completely screwed every year, do we not? Eighty nine

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<v Speaker 1>seconds till completely screwed is the latest count?

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<v Speaker 3>Has it ever gone the other way? I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever done a story where he.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really into the doomsday clock. Was Ken Champeau. He

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<v Speaker 1>really kept tabs on that doomsday clock ever since he left.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea we could be hurtling towards disaster.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw this story today on Twitter and it said

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<v Speaker 3>Melissa McCarthy is going to get her oscar when she

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<v Speaker 3>plays this character. An elementary school principle has been arrested

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<v Speaker 3>after throwing a huge house party with over one hundred kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're not elementary school kids, apparently at least not

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<v Speaker 3>all of them, but Cocoa Beach Police Department responded to

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<v Speaker 3>a home after reports of a huge house party. They

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<v Speaker 3>found over one hundred kids at the residence in matching

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<v Speaker 3>T shirts, many of whom were consuming alcohol that was

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<v Speaker 3>later learned to be available in coolers at the residence.

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<v Speaker 3>The homeowner, identified as a with Hill Bradigan. The principle

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<v Speaker 3>of a nearby elementary school. When officers showed up, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the juveniles was located on the front lawn experiencing

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<v Speaker 3>an alcohol related medical events. Alcohol poisoning juvenile was so

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<v Speaker 3>heavily intoxicated that fire rescue had to respond to treat them.

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<v Speaker 3>Another intoxicated adult, female, is a teacher at that same

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<v Speaker 3>elementary school, was also at that party. She has been

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<v Speaker 3>arrested on charges of child neglect, contributing to the delinquency

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<v Speaker 3>of a minor, and holding an open house party. They

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<v Speaker 3>have not yet made a statement when we come back

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<v Speaker 3>Artificial intelligence. I asked AI to write a holiday radio

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<v Speaker 3>play for us.

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<v Speaker 2>It never made the air until today.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about AI all in the news this

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<v Speaker 1>week because of China's AI company Deep Seak, who says,

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<v Speaker 1>needs your fancy expensive computer chips that the prior administration

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<v Speaker 1>said your companies were not allowed to give us. No,

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<v Speaker 1>We've found cheaper chips that do it just as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That has sent markets all over the place this week

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the Nasdaq and S and P five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump says, hey, it's a wake up call. Do

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<v Speaker 1>better US companies if they can do it for cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do it for cheaper, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, what do people use AI for? People

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<v Speaker 3>called in and let us know. And I thought back

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<v Speaker 3>to the last time I tried to use chat GPT,

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<v Speaker 3>which was to write a holiday radio play for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the cheaper, This is the cheaper, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the this is the awful version that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ai China's program I wish I would have.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what the prompt was. It was something

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<v Speaker 3>about I wanted it to be a radio play, a

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<v Speaker 3>positive Christmas story, holiday story, and that there would be

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<v Speaker 3>six characters in it. Something like that. It was four

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<v Speaker 3>acts and so and so and such and so.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cold read this thing. I have not even

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<v Speaker 1>taken a look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Keana, what were you gonna say?

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<v Speaker 6>I was gonna say, you added like the response it

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<v Speaker 6>says before it gave you all the lists, and it

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<v Speaker 6>says sure. Below is a four act Christmas themed radio

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<v Speaker 6>play designed to be performed by six actors, with each

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<v Speaker 6>act running approximately eight minutes. The play is set in

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<v Speaker 6>a small town with elements of holiday magic, a bit

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<v Speaker 6>of mystery, and a heartwarming conclusion.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not sure we're gonna get all the way

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<v Speaker 3>through Thiscoho not going to be It's called The Christmas Wish.

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<v Speaker 3>It's written by Ai. I'm gonna play Charlie, a disillusioned,

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<v Speaker 3>down to earth man in his thirties who works at

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<v Speaker 3>a local diner.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be Maggie, a spirited, optimistic woman in her

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<v Speaker 1>late twenties who runs the local toy shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob's gonna play Sam. Jacob. You want to read his description?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, a microphone not on screens on screen.

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<v Speaker 5>From the older man in his sixties who lives alone

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<v Speaker 5>and has a secret past.

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<v Speaker 2>Keana plays Evelyn, a cheery.

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<v Speaker 6>Elderly woman in her seventies who loves Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>Shell is the narrator, a voice that provides exposition and atmosphere, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar is the voice of Santa.

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<v Speaker 7>A magical, deep voice that occasionally speaks during the moments

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<v Speaker 7>of Christmas magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, that's how early view you Occasionally.

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<v Speaker 3>Soft wind blows to open Act one, called The Old Wish.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Christmas Eve in the little town of winter Vale.

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<v Speaker 4>The streets are dusted with snow and the air smells

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<v Speaker 4>like pine and cinema in a town square the lights

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<v Speaker 4>twinkle on the big tree and the sound of carollers

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<v Speaker 4>fills the air. But not everyone is feeling the Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>spirit this year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's supposed to be a diner Merry Christmas, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, come on, Charlie, it's Christmas Eve. You should be

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<v Speaker 1>more excited. You've been working the shift for hours. Why

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<v Speaker 1>not take a break, hot coke, go on the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, I'm just tired. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas doesn't feel the same anymore. When you grow up.

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<v Speaker 3>All that magic just kind of disappears.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, but sometimes you just have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>in it for a little while, even when you're not sure. Why.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sorry, I'll take a coffee black. No, I'm sorry, sorry, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you're stepping on people. God help those adults did.

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<v Speaker 2>It for sound effect?

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<v Speaker 1>Lord?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take a coffee black, no frills, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam. You know, Charlie here could use a little of

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<v Speaker 1>your grumpy magic. Maybe it'll rub off on him, make

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<v Speaker 1>him stop moping about the holiday.

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<v Speaker 5>Christmas haven't really had a real Christmas in years. Too

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<v Speaker 5>many memories, kid, too many.

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<v Speaker 4>Sam was a man of few words, but those few

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<v Speaker 4>words were enough to make the others pause. There was

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<v Speaker 4>something about him, something that didn't quite fit in with

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<v Speaker 4>the festive cheer that surrounded Wintervale. Some thought he was

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<v Speaker 4>just a grumpy old man, but others, well, they wondered

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<v Speaker 4>if there was more to his story.

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<v Speaker 2>Outside.

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<v Speaker 4>Something magical was about to happen. A single star appeared

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<v Speaker 4>in the sky above winter Vale, brighter than any other,

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, first of all, that's supposed to be Act one.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, I'm in on this story, like I love Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm in on these characters. Like, let's go with

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<v Speaker 3>Right, here's act too, the Secret Santa.

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<v Speaker 4>The night deepens, and a strange chill fills the air.

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<v Speaker 4>No one knows it yet, but something someone is about

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<v Speaker 4>to visit winter Vile, someone extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that? What was that? Santa? Was that Santa?

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<v Speaker 2>Santa? Maggie?

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, you're not still trying to make me believe

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<v Speaker 3>in fairy tales, are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>There's something about this time of year, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if it's magic, after.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm you're couldna have to find yourself, and you might

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<v Speaker 8>just find it right here in the heart of winter Vail.

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<v Speaker 8>Sometimes it's not the gifts under the tree that matter,

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<v Speaker 2>Wishes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not so sure. The last time I made a wish,

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<v Speaker 2>Wishes don't mean much, kid, trust me, they come, they go.

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<v Speaker 2>Life's not a fairy tale.

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<v Speaker 4>But just as Sam spoke, there was a sudden rustling

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<v Speaker 4>in the air, a flurry of snowflakes swirling in a

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<v Speaker 4>then out of the snow, a voice, deep and warm,

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<v Speaker 7>Oh oh, it's not always about what you see, but

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, uh. Act three. There was less than

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<v Speaker 4>The next day, Christmas morning arrived in a quiet and

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<v Speaker 4>unexpected way. The town square was covered in fresh snow,

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<v Speaker 4>and the sound of children's laughter echoed through the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>But one thing stood out. The people of winter Vile,

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<v Speaker 4>with hearts full of wonder, were about to unco or

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie, Look, it's a gift just for you.

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<v Speaker 2>What this is this is crazy. Who would leave this? Here?

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<v Speaker 4>In front of Charlie's diner, Beneath the old oak tree

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<v Speaker 4>was a gift wrapped in sparkling red paper, tied with

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<v Speaker 4>a golden boat.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this. Something feels off. I knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's trying to pull a fast one. Nothing's free.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes the best gifts don't have a price. They're simply

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<v Speaker 6>meant to remind us that miracles do happen even when

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<v Speaker 6>we least expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Charlie, open it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a It's a picture of my mom and me

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<v Speaker 6>But how some wishes are answered in ways we can't

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<v Speaker 6>understand at first, But they come when we're ready to

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<v Speaker 4>And just as they all stood there puzzled, the wind

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<v Speaker 4>picked up and another voice echoed through the square.

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<v Speaker 7>The true magic of Christmases and in the gifts. It's

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<v Speaker 7>in the hearts we touch, the men we cherish, and

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<v Speaker 7>the love we give.

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<v Speaker 3>Music it's the wrong music. I'm working off a shoe

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<v Speaker 4>Here. The day continued, and winter Vale was brighter than

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<v Speaker 4>ever before. The magic that had touched the town was

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<v Speaker 4>not just a momentary thing. It was something that lingered

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<v Speaker 4>in the hearts of its people who had rediscovered the

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<v Speaker 4>wonder of the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe there's something to this Christmas magic after all.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's not too late to start believing. Aim.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it, You just needed to open your heart

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 5>Charlie, Well, I'll be maybe there's more to Christmas than

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<v Speaker 5>I thought, But I'm not going to start seeing Christmas

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<v Speaker 5>carols or nothing.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have to sing, Sam, but you might want

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<v Speaker 6>to say Merry Christmas to someone today. You never know

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<v Speaker 6>what a little kindness can do.

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<v Speaker 4>And so on that Christmas Day in winter Vale, the

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<v Speaker 4>magic of the season worked its wonders. Old wounds healed,

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<v Speaker 4>memories were cherished, and new wishes were made, ones that

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<v Speaker 4>came true in ways no one could have predicted.

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<v Speaker 7>Marry Christmas to all and to all.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice and short and sweet, Jacob, do you feel seen

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<v Speaker 1>or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to read at the end, because so again,

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<v Speaker 3>Keana mentioned the prompt that I had put in there,

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<v Speaker 3>and the chatch Ept then spit out this crappy little

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<v Speaker 3>script at the end. It says, this play brings together

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas magic, personal reflection, and a community coming together. It

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<v Speaker 3>balances the humor of quirky characters with the warmth and

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<v Speaker 3>sincerity of the holiday spirit. Each act flows smoothly, tying

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<v Speaker 3>up the town's mysteries while leaving room for heartwarming moments

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<v Speaker 3>and the fulfillment of wishes.

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<v Speaker 7>How long did it take you to put together the

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<v Speaker 7>regular Christmas play?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>A long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's the well because there's two of them there.

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<v Speaker 3>We've gone back and forth. We go from It's a

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<v Speaker 3>Wonderful Life to a Christmas Carol, and both of them

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<v Speaker 3>are Christmas Carol's in the public domain, so the script

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<v Speaker 3>is easy to grab. You can grab a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>different versions of the script. So I took like a

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<v Speaker 3>basic one and then modified it. But that took a

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<v Speaker 3>long time, several days, timely references in it. It has

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of personality that went into it.

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<v Speaker 1>And each act was like eight minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was like thirty seconds. Yeah yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 7>Could you use AI as a tool for next time?

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was the whole point is I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>use AI as a tool to come up with it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a Hallmark style, you know, goofy Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>show and then expand it and then you know, Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>to how we wanted and change the character names and

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<v Speaker 3>things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was all that came up with,

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<v Speaker 2>was these tiny little.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm sensing that you feel threatened by AI,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just want you to know. And guys, help

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<v Speaker 1>me out with this. Your play is head and shoulders.

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<v Speaker 1>You both plays head and shoulders above this, and we

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<v Speaker 1>would never replace you with AI, especially in the holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Get better.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say, yeah, prompted as a hallmark,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that ways start casting, you know, getting really

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<v Speaker 3>pretty soon my stuff, my script for our show is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be scanned by AI. That that all these

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<v Speaker 3>different you know, search tools, that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>up there and they're going to hear it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when they're going to make it better. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it'll never have the heart that your scripts have in them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe a word you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>The big stories of course that we have been following today,

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<v Speaker 3>the first lawsuits have been filed against President Trump's executive

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<v Speaker 3>order revising policy on transgender troops. Six Democratic attorneys general

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<v Speaker 3>have also announced a lawsuit asking a judge to block

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<v Speaker 3>the imminent federal funding freeze by the Trump administration. That

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<v Speaker 3>freeze is set to take effect just a little more

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<v Speaker 3>than an hour from now. Is Raelly, Prime Minister of

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<v Speaker 3>Benjamin at Yah, who says President Trump has invited him

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<v Speaker 3>to visit the White House February fourth. That would make

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<v Speaker 3>you know who the first foreign leader to do so

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<v Speaker 3>in the second term. No immediate comment from the White

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<v Speaker 3>House today, but Israel's announcement comes as the US has

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<v Speaker 3>been pressuring it and Hamas to continue the ceasefire in

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<v Speaker 3>the devastating fifteen month war. We just gave you an

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to see AI in action.

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<v Speaker 2>AI wrote for.

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<v Speaker 3>Us a Christmas play that didn't make the cut, but

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<v Speaker 3>we wanted to bring it to you just to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of show you the shortcomings of AI, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that it was not Christmas time.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, Gary and Shannon, Holy crap, I got the worst

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<v Speaker 9>case of the diabetes from listening to that sickeningly sweet

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<v Speaker 9>barftastic chat GPT thing. My heart is so warm that

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<v Speaker 2>I just that might be a hearty kick.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just getting ready for the John Cobalt Show. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he got here a little early. We're sorry, We're sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Tech startup Deep seeks, as it was hit by

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<v Speaker 1>a big cyber attack disrupted user's ability to register on

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<v Speaker 1>its services, but that has since that has since been rectified.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, this was the app Deep Seek that sent

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<v Speaker 1>the tech world into a frenzy. We've been reporting on

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<v Speaker 1>it because it says it can do AI but cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>A full scale replica of the Secret Annex where Ann

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<v Speaker 1>Frank penned her diary has opened in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>It was unveiled yesterday. Official say it represents the first

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<v Speaker 1>time the annex has been completely recreated outside of Amsterdam,

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<v Speaker 1>where a similar display is the centerpiece of the A.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank House Museum and in that vein. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>is also true crime what happened? There are a number

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<v Speaker 1>of themed tours that kind of have been showing what

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<v Speaker 1>true crime and how to make money off of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's one for example in New York, A mafia

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<v Speaker 3>walking tour starts at John's of Twelfth Street, one of

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<v Speaker 3>Manhattan's oldest Italian places, just outside Dennis O'Leary, a sixty

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<v Speaker 3>two year old retired NYPD detective says, that's where Lucky

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<v Speaker 3>Luciano shut him Bert de Valenti, and then walks through

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<v Speaker 3>the neighborhood there and points out all these different landmarks

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<v Speaker 3>in Little Italy and what they mean to the history

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows Dennis in Little Italy. In fact, he'll give

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<v Speaker 1>getting a reservation. I mean, you can almost imagine the sky, right,

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of jumps off the page. They go to

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<v Speaker 1>the old Melo printing building, where Dennis says fake stocks

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<v Speaker 1>and bonds were printed for the mafia. Remember Goodfellas, the

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<v Speaker 1>two characters that killed Joe Pesci. They go to that

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<v Speaker 1>haunt as well, where they liked to visit.

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<v Speaker 3>Mafia New York obviously makes perfect sense. What about the

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey Dahmer Footsteps walking tour?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it come with lunch?

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago Crime Tour takes place in an air conditioned bus

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<v Speaker 3>French Quarter. Phantoms tells the story of characters like the

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<v Speaker 3>never apprehended Axe Men of New Orleans, the unidentified serial

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<v Speaker 3>killer went on a rampage in the early twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 3>and like Jack the Ripper had a pensiant for mocking

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<v Speaker 1>Closer to Home, Kim Cooper runs SOO Touric tours in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. They started in two thousand and seven. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a true crime blog and this kind of was

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<v Speaker 1>developed out of that. Their tours, they say, have a

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<v Speaker 1>mix of culture, history, architecture. They offer two true crime

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<v Speaker 1>tours in downtown LA, the Real Black Dahlia and Human Sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>She says a lot of new visitors have come to

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian student visiting. She was found in a water tank.

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<v Speaker 1>Art Markman is a professor of psychology at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas. At Austin's is that we have an inherent

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<v Speaker 1>interest in true crime because stories like these enable us

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<v Speaker 1>to be transported into situations we wouldn't find ourselves in normally.

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<v Speaker 3>if I thought of this before reading this version of it.

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<v Speaker 3>There may be a sort of a hero complex in

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<v Speaker 3>all of us as well. Where you're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>exactly you're going to go on one of these tours.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say you go on the real Black Dohlia tour

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<v Speaker 3>that's run here in LA and you ask the one

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<v Speaker 3>have never asked before.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be the one who's.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what about the left handed doctor with the ipatch?

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<v Speaker 2>And then everybody just is stunned into and you're the

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<v Speaker 2>one who saved it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I'm sure there's a bit of that, a

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<v Speaker 1>little Nancy Drew and all of us.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny that they reference Cereal the podcast serial. They

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<v Speaker 3>got people talking about the genre of.

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<v Speaker 1>A great past. I feel like we had so many

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<v Speaker 1>good podcasts for a while, like of that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>nature where they're really well produced and written and researched,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I just feel like people are phoning it in.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny they refer to it as podcasting, lowering

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<v Speaker 3>the overhead necessary to distribute context.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you can tell. I mean it's hard, it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more missed than hit when I'm looking for good, researched,

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<v Speaker 1>well produced podcasts. Yeah, that's why I keep listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this show. You know, I get in the car, I

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<v Speaker 1>poke around, I look for a different podcast I try

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<v Speaker 1>them out, and then I'm like Gary and Shannon. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing I can rely on.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do you find that? That podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>You just go to wherever you find your podcast? For me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a little app on the phone in search.

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<v Speaker 1>You type in Gary and Shannon and there it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, just comes right up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it comes right up Gary and Shannon Show. KFI Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's latest episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh's that simple?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>There we are? That's us.

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<v Speaker 3>What if I wanted to share that with somebody that

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I'm sure there's a share button or I

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<v Speaker 3>like it?

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<v Speaker 1>How come our rating is only four point one?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't read in that? That's like I'm reading reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get the reviews? We're going to be lost,

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<v Speaker 2>lost forever?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you get the reviews? John Cobelt Show is

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<v Speaker 3>coming up next. We'll see you tomorrow. Stay drive everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, Oh I see it now? Oh no, yeah, Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Shannon? What would I do without you? That's the

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<v Speaker 1>first five year say the word blessings? Blessings is count

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<v Speaker 1>me out?

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<v Speaker 2>Enough is enough? Gary and Shannon. We got to end it.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 3>You can always hear us live on KFI Am six

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