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Speaker 1: Hello there, Welcome into another episode of the Lola mccash

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Games podcast. Glad to have you here. A reminder, at

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the end of the pod, we'll tell you how you

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can get more training. Teat you how to crush and

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destroy low stakes hold them if that's what you're looking for.

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As of the time of being recording this, we actually

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have a very rare opening in the one on one

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coaching tier. By the time you hear this, it may

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not be open, but you may want to check on that.

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Of course, the links to all that stuff is down

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in the description below. Not going to spend a lot

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of time on it now because that is the agreement

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I made with you guys several years ago. So here

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we go. We're going to talking about playing top pair

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out of position, probably specifically top pair top kicker, but

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it could also be like top pair really good kicker,

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like you know, Queen high flopping. You have King Queen

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that's really good. Obviously Ace Queen be top pair top kicker,

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but hands like that. Trying to navigate with the top

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pair hand out of position is you know, difficult. It

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requires some nuance, especially if you have two opponents in position.

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You're gonna have to balance some aggressions and protections and

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pot control. Your strategy is gonna hinge on a lot

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on the flop texture, what we know about our opponents

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and their tendencies. Of course, stacked depth has always comes

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into play prior actions of opponents, et cetera. Especially if

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we have you know, some information in a situation exactly

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or similar to this, that helps a lot too. All

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that comes to just paying attention in the game. I'm

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gonna do a breakdown on when to bet, check, check, raise,

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bat fold and spots like this. Now, I just have

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to worry. This is not the end all be all

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treaties on how to play top pay out of position

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to multiple opponents. It just doesn't like there's just a

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ton of nuance. You should just really be paying attention

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to your game. I'm just going to try to give

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you some, you know, some general guidelines and if you'll

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start thinking about hands in this way, you know you

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can advance this either to you know, get better at it.

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So this is for sure just some basics. But you

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know number one is pretty much going to be flop textures.

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So when you're out a position to multiple opponents, flop

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texture is king and determining how you want to proceed

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with a one pair hand, and in this case specifically

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a top pair hand top pair of top kicker will

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call it or top pair you know, really really good kicker.

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So on these dry, unconnected type flop textures, so for example,

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we have king three deuce rainbow, so it's not suited.

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There aren't a lot of straight draws to speak of.

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Of course, there could be some gutshot wheels with like

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ace four, ace five, but not really strong draws. If

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you've raised pre flop, which you should have. If you

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have a top pairent top kicker do hand, you probably

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should have been raising or maybe even three bettings. Sometimes

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mostly just raising though considering we're out of position to

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multiple opponents, so you know, four or five for open

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ended shouldn't exist a lot, and then you have the

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best top pair, right, So if you have ace king

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on king three deuce, you know you just really have

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a kind of a stranglehold on his hand. Almost always

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no looks. Rarely you'll run into sets of deuces. Rarely

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you'll run into sets of threes something like that. But

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for the most part, the hands that will be in

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there with you will be worst kings and then like

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pocket jacks, pucket tens, pocket nines. So given the very dry,

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very static nature of the board, we want to be

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bett and smaller twenty three percent pot something like that.

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You know, drym board just means they just really don't

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have much to continue at all. They mostly really have

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nothing except you know, lower pairs that you probably won't

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get much more than one street of value out of

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or worse king X. Now the worst king X will continue.

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And that's the great thing about a flop texture like

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this when they do continue. You know, if you just

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say you bet third pot and they continue, you know,

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sometimes that'll be like pocket nines, pocket tens, but more

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often it'll probably be just another top pair hand a

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reasonable percent of the time, which will allow you to

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potentially size up and get more value across a ton

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of turns. When you have these medium type flops, especially

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these medium connected cards and suited all at the same time,

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these can present a bit of a problem when you

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have a one pair hand like a top pair top

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kicker hand. So a good example this would be like

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Queen of Clubs, nine of diamonds, four of clubs, so

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man pre flap calling ranges just smack this board. When

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you raise and get called pre flop, I mean they're

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calling you with all kind of nine X. They're calling

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you with jack ten for open ended, they're calling you

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with all kinds of queen X. They're calling you with

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some gut shots. So they'll be calling you like king

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ten king jack that will want to continue. They're calling

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you also with clubs, so club draws will want to continue.

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So when you have a flop like this where there's

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just a ton of hands that want to continue and

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you have a top pair type of hands. So example

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on Queen nine four or two clubs, if you have

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ace queen here, you know, against two opponents out of position,

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you know, we want to be betting about half poet.

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We want to be trying to get value, we want

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to be trying to protect against draws, and you know

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extract knowing that there's just a lot of hands that

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will continue. We're rarely ever behind on this flop again,

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Queen nine suited as a hand people play. Sometimes we'll

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be behind on like you know, two pairs and then

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obviously sets of nines exist and then sets of four

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is less often exists depending on what the race size was,

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et cetera, and the players in the hands, so it's

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opening to straight and gut shot straights, flush draws and

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combo draws and all this stuff. With two opponents, it's

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they just have a fair moniquity or stuff that wants

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to continue, and there's a lot of turns that make

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it dicey. So betting this flop's pretty important, you know,

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and not betting a huge though, like we don't want

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to really bet it, like monstrously huge, like eighty percent,

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because now just running into bloated pots across some really

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scary turns, so it moves from you know, its extracted

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value to us potentially putting ourselves in some bad situations

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on turns. We can explore other options, for example, going

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with a check raise here, So if you have a

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very aggressive ponent still to act after you that may

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bet this, if you check to them, this might leverage

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you into making a check raise here. Again, this is

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going to be opponent dependent, so there's something you will

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be paid attention into the hand. And then can we

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take a bet fold line ever, so you know, if

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you bet, you face a raise, you know, try to

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figure out who your opponent is, like if he's a

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really tight player, really snug player that you don't see

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get out of line much and would never be raising

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you with like Queen ten here on this board of

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Queen nine four. Like if they're just never raising Queen

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jack or Queen ten, it's that kind of opponent. I mean,

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you can just fold. They probably doesn't have Queen nine

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for two pair or set or something. That's those typeponents

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don't tend to raise flow straws as well, so you

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know they're probably not raising that. So in extreme scenarios

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like that, you can take a betful type line. Now

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let's be one with some really really really wet board textures.

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So we're talking about dynamic, wet, all the words, all

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the words. So let's look at a board like Jack

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ten nine with two spades, So Jack ten nine with

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two spades, and again, I guess, for just for an example,

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let's just assume we have ace jack here, so top pair,

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top kicker on Jack ten nine with two spades. These

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middling cards with the multiple draws and all the connectivity

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and everything just smacks so hard a ton of pre

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flop calling ranges. You just almost always only be betting

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small here when you decide to bet, you could also

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just consider checking sometimes, especially the more you know you're

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about your opponents. But I mean, the amount of hands

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that are ahead of you or have a ton of

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equity against you are enormous. You know, people love to

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play the connectors, so you have ace jack top pairs

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up kicker, but they can have jack ten for two pair,

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jack nine for two pair, ten nine for two pair, seven,

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eights for straights, Queen king for straights. I mean, depending

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on who your opponent is. You know, rarely you might

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see the old queen eight suited for a straight or something,

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and then you get all the flush draws with the spades,

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and then you have a lot of combo draws. So

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let's say that they have like Queen ten of spades,

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so they're open ended with a spade draw. Like just

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so many many hands that'll continue here, And depending on

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who your opponents are, you definitely would want to be

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proceeding in ways that make some kind of a sense.

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So you know, I like this' is a generic rule

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of betting about third pot here into one or two opponents.

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The one thing that you should be thinking about is

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if you have a very adept opponent, that's still to

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act after you who can knows that this flop is

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bad for most of your range and will put you

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to the test with a lot of race. You should

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just look to check call here and see what develops

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on turns against an opponent alike that specifically that very

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specific type of opponent. Now, check raise here. Is this

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ever effective? It's highly effective, especially against certain opponents. If

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you have an opponent that will raise their draws and

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stuff and they're aggressive, kind of like the one we

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were talking about, if you go for a check raise here,

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this could be pretty powerful. So the problem with that

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is is that if it's like a regular run in

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the middle of low stakes, more passive opponent, you don't

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want to be going for jeck raises because they could

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just have two pairs again the jack tens to ten nines,

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the jack nines, the you know, flop straits and all

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that kind of stuff. So it really depends on who

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your opponent is. If you check and they bet, do

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you want to go for the check raise? So you know,

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as was is most everything in poker, so way, you

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want to be painting and understanding your opponents and their

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tendencies as well as you possibly can. You know, against

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these passive opponents, going for a check raise will just

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put you, you know, check raising into the nuts a

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lot of the times, or you know, near nuts two

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pairs of stuff that's just be very difficult for you

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to catch up to. Whereas if you have very aggressive

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opponent who understands this board is really scary for you,

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and maybe they have you know, draws and opportunities to

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improve their hand and stuff, they would just become aggressive

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and just bet when you check to them, and so

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it'd be you know, more in your interest to be

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check raising those type players. Can we ever take about

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fold line here? I mean, I'd mostly avoid it unless

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you're facing like a really large raise from a passive player.

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So again, if a passive player raises you, they they're

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just not raising their draws. That's not how passive players play.

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So on this board, which is super scary, I would

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probably seriously considering folding to them when raised or when

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you check and they bet for large value sizing end

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to you. So you always want to be making opponents

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specific adjustments. Right against passive opponents, you generally just want

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to be betting smaller when you have value hands for

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value like top pair top kicker. They're rarely going to

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bluff raise you, so you're not gonna be putting a

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lot of difficult spots. Only you know, maybe when they

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get right out of line with some really big raises,

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would you consider that aggressive opponents you can check raised

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on these really wet boards to exploit their their you know,

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tendencies to bluff and try to take down pots on

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stuff that they scary. On dryboards, you can kind of

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bet and call down if raised, because they can just

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have air sometimes it's less likely that Just keep that

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in mind on when this these really dry and static boards,

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it makes it less less larger. Now, if you're in

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a hand and you have a really loose calling station

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after you, you should just always be betting large because there's

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not folding anything. So just get maximum value from them

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with their gut shots and their back doors. And then

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of course they're you know legit draws as well straights

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and flush draws and stuff. They're going to chase the

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draws no matter what, even on the turn of one

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card to come. So when the draws don't come and

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you get the blank turn, you should continue to be

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at large because they just won't fold. We talked about

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stack depths, like always be considering stack depth in every hand,

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but especially when you're out of position, especially multi way.

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You know, when you got these shorter stacks in the

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hands like less than fifty big blinds, like top pair

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of top kicker, you can just become pot committed. You

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can bet large and be ready to stack off because

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top pair of top kicker is good enough. You know,

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as you get deeper deeper stacks like over one hundred

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big blinds, you want to start bringing your bat sizes

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down a little bit. And most circumstances, not all because

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we talked about some of the circumstances where you wouldn't,

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but just generally speaking, your back sizings will come down

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the deeper the stacks get, and you can utilize this

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check raise spot versus loose and aggressive opponents when you're

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in hands with them. But for the most part, the

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deeper the stacks get, you want to avoid bloating pots

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when you're out of position, especially when you don't have

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a clear pen and for sure, if you don't have

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a clear understanding of the opponents you're in the hand with.

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Let's take a look at a hand that we might

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potentially play like this. So we have ace king, and

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we have two opponents in position to us. One of

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them is a loose opponent, one of them is a

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tight opponent. We have ace King, and the flop comes

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King seven duce rainbows. It's very dry, it's very static.

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Two of them position again, one loose, one tight. We

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should betting like sixty percent of the pot here, fifty

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percent of the pot here. I think sometimes, you know,

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thinking about these loose opponents, especially their calling stations, they

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might call a little bit more often. You could also

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consider betting smaller. If that's not the case, if you

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don't have an opponent like that in the hand, than

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this board is just so you know, drying static. That

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betting smaller, as we mentioned back at the beginning of

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the podcast, would probably be wiser. She's gonna have to

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lose a bit of judgment there if you do the

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bet this and the type player folds and the loose

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player calls, which is what we're going to assume happen

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in this particular instance, and then you get a turn

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that's like a five of spades here, so King seven

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deuce five, that's all rainbow. You should continue betting because

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this loose calling station type player probably just has something

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they don't want to fold necessarily yet, and that card

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is a complete blank. If you do bet that and

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get called and you get a card like a three

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on the river, this could look somewhat scary to some

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people with the seven, five or three douce out there,

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but it's really not. You should just continue to value bet. Now,

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let's flip this around and assume instead of that flop texture,

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we have like a king ten nine with two clubs,

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So we have ace king on king ten nine with

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two clubs. I would check this sometimes if we have

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an aggressive, you know, opponent after us, like a lag

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or somebody that you know when check too, really wants

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to go for it. This is a it's a great

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flop to do it because they have a lot of

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hands they might want to do that with. And see

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we can go for the check raise here and check

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raise them big. It's a pretty good spot to do that.

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So it's just like a couple of examples the way

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you'd be thinking about hands, especially as it relates to

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your position, your stack sizes, and the player types that

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you're in the hand with. When you have top pair

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top kicker type hands. Just remember top pairs vulnerable, prioritized

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betting for value and charging draws over doing any kind

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of a bluffing on you know, in these type spots,

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especially on a lot of those board textures, you can

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leverage this disadvantage you have from your position by check

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raising sometimes when the when you know when the when

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the situation calls for it, so be able to look

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out for that and always just be an adjusting to

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the player types that are in the hands with you,

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so you can exploit these knits with small bat sizings

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because they'll either just have something that may have you

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crushed or these won't have anything, and so small bet

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sizings accomplishes everything when you're betting against them. Now, if

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you have if you have like calling stations in the hand,

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you can bet bigger because they're just not folding for anything.

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And then be looking out for these maniacs where you

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can take these check raise spots against them. When you're

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out of position, you want to hero call a lot

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less you know, unless you you know know something about

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your opponents or something you know that would allow you

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to continue out of position with one pair of hands

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against you know specific opponents like this, it's pretty hard

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to continue too much, so we can start to continue folding,

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especially as it proceeds across multiple streets, in other words,

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past the flop end of the turn and into the river,

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so top pairer out of position. It's a marginal hand

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in multi way pots, right, and this the more multi

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way and super multi weight is, the more marginal this

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hand becomes, you know, against one or two players for sure,

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played aggressively on these dry and active boards, more cautiously

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on wet connected ones. And anytime you get a knitty

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person or a tighter person, or especially a passive person,

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or a combination of all three that raises you, you just

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have to be willing to chunk your top payer top

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kicker type hand away. I hope this episode of the

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podcast has been somewhat helpful to you. A lot of

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stuff we talked about down in the note sections below,

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as is the link to my Patreon. Full blown Low

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the access, of course to the discord where we talk

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a lot of strategy, We go over hands. It's a

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great group of people. There's several crushers in there, by

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you join the discord and whatever. Every players have different colors,

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They are a bona fide crusher. I have verified they're

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a crusher. Mostly there are people that I've worked within

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a one on one setting, and I know their charts,

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I know their graphs, and I know their games. So

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just a little tip for you in case you join us,

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that doesn't mean you can't take advice or discussions with

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anybody in there. I just you know you'll you'll recognize

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those guys with the red name over there's are resident crushers.

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moved it over where we just do the one free

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