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Speaker 1: The countdown is on to fight time. This is Big

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Fight Weekend. Now here is your host, TJ Leaves.

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Speaker 2: All right, we get ready for a weekend that, let's

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be honest, doesn't have a ton although hey, I've always

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said when it's a lighter weekend, let's have a big

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fight card in Libya of all places.

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Speaker 1: We're ready to talk about that.

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Speaker 2: And the rising heavyweight from England, Moses Etama, is with

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our big Dan Rayfield on this podcast as well. Welcome

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in here to the Big Fight Weekend preview. I'm merely

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the somewhat capable host, TJ Reach. Hello, Dan Rayfield, we

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are back again here together. I have survived. I we

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got breaking news for you for me, for all that

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I have survived being out as we're doing this pod

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at Tampa Bay Buccaneer training camp on Thursday where it

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was Dante's Inferno, sixth Ring of Hell hot. And so

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if I start talking about the breakdown of the Buccaneers

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and the Titans, please smack me figuratively and get me

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back into the boxing snap here. So anyway that's going on,

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We've got we've got preseason football in the United States

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college football soon. There's it's a lighter month for boxing,

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So we got a little bit here and there, including

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Moses Etama fighting next weekend August sixteenth, not this weekend.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna hear from Moses on the pod. How

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are you?

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Speaker 2: I can see you're smiling, and I think I know

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why you're smiling. Shall we go ahead and let the

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peeps in on this. You're a smile, You're You're a

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happy man. You're like a proud father right now on

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the pod. You want to tell them why.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not a secret. I've posted on my social media.

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I'm very excited and very proud that I went with

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my wife and we went to the bank and we

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paid off the mortgage. The big deal, dude.

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Speaker 2: The thing is that this podcast has been so lucrative

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over the course of the last three years. It has

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allowed the ray Fields to realize the American dream of

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being bona fide home. Aw By the way, you owned

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the house right now, period, not the bank.

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Speaker 1: You're not paying a bank anymore. You own the home now.

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Speaker 3: Well. I always make the payment online, but for whatever reason,

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for the last payment, you either had to send in

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like a certified check, or do a wire transfer, or

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go to the bank branch and pay it. It's like chase.

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I mean, they're all over the place. Okay, So we decided,

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you know what, we'll make a family outing. And so

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we went and I and i'd never been in that

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bank branch in my life. I haven't set foot in

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an actual bank branch and since probably the pandemic or

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before the pandemic. So we went down to the to

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the chase you know about I don't know, ten to

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fifteen min's from my house. And I stood at the

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counter and.

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Speaker 1: Young Rayfield is with you. It's a family event.

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Speaker 3: Young ray goes with us. He's excited because he's got

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a lollipop at the bank, and I write the check.

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Speaker 2: I should have given you more than a lollipop after

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you've been paying hundreds of thousands of dollars with interest

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for a house.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, so I gave them the check for the

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last payment, which was actually less than it normally is

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because I had been paying extra. And this morning, when

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I double checked my accountancy the bank, the check had cashed.

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And so I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I always love this, like Applebee's Chili's, all the chains

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did they come around with like one of those cakes

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with a candle in it and start singing at the

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bank like they do.

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Speaker 3: There was no there was no singing, but I was

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I was very I was very proud. Me listen, it's

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a big deal. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: He sent my mother, my father spent forty five years

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in the church ministry. We are religious, despite the fact

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that I have to put up with you. And he never,

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he never in his life believed he was going to

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own a home. But he paid off the home where

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my mother and he live about seven or eight years ago,

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and we did go celebrate with one of those little

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cakes with a candle in it. I think after that

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now missus reeves and I just to give a financial update,

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because it's such a lucrative world of radio and podcasting,

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should be able to pay off the home somewhere around

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twenty forty four.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's just.

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Speaker 3: Just for the sake of clarity. It is not because

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of the lucrative nature of the pot the podcast anything.

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But I do it not for the money. Yeah, we

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make a few dollars, it's not that much. We do

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it because it's kind of fun, and yes, we enjoy

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boxing and all that. So anybody that things were making

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a fucking kill. No, not hot, not true. Well someday maybe, but.

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Speaker 1: Not from here on out.

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Speaker 2: In the short term, I'm referring to him as homeowner,

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Big Dan Rayfield. You own the home now, and hopefully

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it won't be like you. Remember that movie in the eighties.

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it had two heavyweight names, Tom Hanks and Shelley Long.

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It was called the Money Pit. Remember, they bought the

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house and he tried to fix everything, and he like

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fell through the second level of the house down.

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Speaker 3: I don't need that level. There's nothing I don't I

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don't need anything that I need.

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Speaker 2: You don't need any bad mojo. But you now own

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the home. It's all yours now.

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Speaker 3: Oh so, even when I even in the bank, was

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holding part of the you know, the loan, if something

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happened in the in the house, they didn't come and fix.

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But I had a fucking hole in my back patio

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in my porch. I was the one that had to pay

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for that to get it there.

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Speaker 2: I understand, all right, enough about your home ownership, but congratulations,

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well done on that. Uh, We've got a lot of

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news that we're gonna get to. We do have one

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fight card. Of note again, thank you for finding us

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on the podfeed, Apple Spreaker, Spotify.

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Speaker 1: We should make mention.

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Speaker 2: Again because there are people that still a couple more

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contact to me. There is not a regular bet Us

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boxing show on Fridays anymore. So we assume right now

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you had to find this podcast and hear us. We

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assume that some of you have joined us on the

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pod feed, very similar to what we where you've been

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for three years, very similar to what we've been doing

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on the bet Us show, except you and I don't

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handicap fights on this show per se. You and I

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might come back around and handicap a fight card in

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the near future if there's one worthwhile, Canelo Crawford, whatever,

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But for right now, we don't have that anymore on Fridays.

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But you can stay locked in on this pod feed

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Dapple Spreaker, Spotify. You're gonna get twice the ray field,

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twice the fun, all the insight, the analysis, the news,

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the breaking news, the interviews. It's on the pod feed,

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So stay stay locked in here with this and go

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find our YouTube channel. Dan's interview with Terrence Crawford, which

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which for us at the lower level has gotten a

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ton of views and watches. Go watch him with Terrence Crawford.

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I think part of it is and a compliment to you.

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Not a lot of people have talked to him recently.

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So go hear him in his own words about preparing

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for the Canelo fight, et cetera. Plug away for it

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again one more time, then go watch the interview in

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full on our Big Fight Weekend YouTube page, but give

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a quick plug on what he's talking about.

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Speaker 3: So we just we spoke about his his efforts and

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it was my perception that he sort of willed the

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fight into being He's the one that thought about it.

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Canelo was very resistant. He talked about, you know how

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he just stuck to it, got Turkey into the fight,

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got you know and obviously the money and the opportunity

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for Canelo became a big thing. And talked about, you

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know how he's gonna go about reshaping his body to

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go from being you know, a welterweight that's become a

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brief junior middleweight now going to super middleweight. Yeah, it

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was just a good discussion of the historical nature of it,

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what it means to him, how much is riding on

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the fight for.

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Speaker 2: This is we said this, this is the biggest name

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surefire lock hall of Famer to date. You can say

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that the Spence was a magnitude massive fight.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: He had an undisputed title fight at junior welterweight. That

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was an important fight. But in terms of biggest brand

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name opponent, this is it. This is to this point

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in his career, this is it. Everybody knows that.

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Speaker 3: And it's not the same for Canelo because Canelo at

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this stage of his career has faced already numerous Hall

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of Famers and will simply be adding Crawford as another

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Hall of Famer two his record because he has faced

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you know, in no particular you know Mayweather obviously Triple

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be the next one. And you know, he faced Shane Mosley,

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granted not at the top of his game at that time,

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but he faced you know, Miguel Coto when he was

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still the middleweight champions. Face a lot of great fighters.

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Speaker 1: Go listen that.

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Speaker 2: Todd Grisham also publicly thank you to him again. He

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spent time with you and me on Tuesday, talking about

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the dis own recent shows that he has done, including

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working the Oscar Duarte knitt Sim's main event in Chicago

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this past weekend, Brida's recently.

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Speaker 1: We had fun with him earlier that.

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Speaker 3: It was him and I are reminiscing when we went

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Speaker 2: Yes, and him busting on Sergio Moura and Chris Mannix

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as they always do on the show. What do you

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refer to Mora as a fever blister that he can't

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get rid of? That was tremendous, So check out Todd

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Grisham as well on our YouTube page from when we

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did this earlier. You can rewatch the interview. I got

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several positive comments online and elsewhere enjoying that Q and

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a more of that coming on the YouTube page. All

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the promotions out of the way again, it is not

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a plentiful fight schedule this weekend. But we're in Libya people.

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be ready to see this on Friday, either live in

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Let's talk first about the WBA Interim featherweight title. Nick

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Ball is coming up defending right the whole version of

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the WBA title the following week on the undercart of

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the Atama fight. This is Mirco Queo helped me hear

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Sergio Rios Himenez for the interim featherweight title for the WBA.

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Speaker 1: Did I get all that right? Tell me more? Go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, just in the fact that the

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fight is taking place in Libya. When I first heard

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about this card, I'm like, that can't be right, but

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you know what it is right? Apparently the government is

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backing it there. They're i guess, sort of trying to

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do what others have done in the past, whether it's

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Saudi Arabia today, to bring attention and positivity towards their country,

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as well as reasons why fights like you know Ali

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and Foreman were in Zaire and why the Thriller in

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Manila hosted Ali against Joe Frasier. Because these country is

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not known for big events or tourism or anything. Are

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putting up money to bring the world attention to these events. Now,

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I'm not saying this fight in Libya is going to

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have necessarily the world attention, but they're going to have

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some attention on it, and so they're going to ben

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Gazi Liby hit to do this card. Now, in terms

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of the actual bouts, it's actually a pretty good card

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if you like fights, Like I feel like this is

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like it's not like huge names. But when I saw

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that merk Okuayo was on this ground, I'm like, Wow,

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Mark Oquael, that is a really good looking young fighter.

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to uh February of this year when he was fighting

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on the undercard when David Morrell fought against David Benavidez,

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this was one of those fights that was part of

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that prime video free stream, you know, of the prelemonaries.

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It looks spectacular and getting a tenth round knockout against

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a good fighter, fifteen and oh twelve knockouts from Argentina

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and he's fighting him then as I don't you know,

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they're fighting for the interim title. It's that with that

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no sense they're basically fighting a few days before Nick

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interim title. I always feel like if you're gonna use

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an image speak a third guys because he's injured. So

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this is just one of these silly things. But whatever,

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you know him and As I don't know a lot about,

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but he is undefeated. He's nineteen and oh with seven knockouts.

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not a lot of name guys on it, but that

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there's nothing else going on.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know a young fighter that I actually when I

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February show with Morrel and uh and then not Benavidas

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with Morel and yeah Marrell and Benavidez that Uh. I

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was like very impressed. And he's like a good looking

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young fighter. He's with Samson Lucason. I was asking Samson

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on him. You know, he thinks the world of him

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and I always have had a massive respect for Samson's

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boxing acumen in terms of the guys that he signs,

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and then the other fight that's on the card that's

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of interest. There's a bunch of fights on it. There's

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like four or five fights, but the other fight that's

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meaningful is a WBA light heavyweight eliminator between the outstanding

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up and comer Albert Ramirez. So if you've watched the

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Eye of the Tiger cards, that's his promoter. They're the

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outfit from Montreal, but all of their fights before the

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end of the Top Rank contract with the ESPN because

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of those cards streamed on ESPN Plus over the last

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couple of years, so you've gotten to see a lot

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of Albert Ramirez, who's been very active. He's a south

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paw from then as well. He's undefeated at twenty one

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and oh with eighteen knockouts, and he's been a very

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good looking fighter, and he's really, in my opinion, you know,

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made himself into like a real contender, like a lower

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part of the top ten. And if you're not forget

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about sanctioning byes anyway. So he's taking on a fighter

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named Jerome Papillon in an elimination fight. So again, not

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the biggest names, but beat the combination of Quao and

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how exciting he was and how good he looked, and

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some stakes if you care about the interim belt, and

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then a young you know his youth, and then you

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take into account the light heavyweight fight with some stakes

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to put the winner in a position for a mandatory fight,

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although we all know the light heavyweights are jammed up

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right now because of the title being unified for the

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most part. But again, you know that's all there is

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this weekend. But I'm down for I'm down for Merkle Quao.

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Speaker 2: I like it a lot, and again repeat for the

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audience because a lot of people are hearing us Friday

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morning or even Friday midday US time is when is

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the start time of the card as far as we

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know de Zonne And obviously they can watch it on

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demand later in the day if they miss it live.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I believe it's at one or one thirty

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Eastern time on his own from Libya. It's also on

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like if you have like the satellite, certainly you have Dish,

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not Dish Direct TV, which also has I believe the

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Argentine station called TyC. It's being shown on that also

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because Cuaeo's Argentinian. If you live in Russia, it's on

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match TV in Russia.

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Speaker 2: So if you live in Russia and you're listening to

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us in English, good luck.

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Speaker 1: We wish you well.

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Speaker 2: By the way, libbya six hours ahead if you're if

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you're needing to know that of Eastern time. For what

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it's worth for the for the fight card on Friday,

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I'm assuming there's never been a world championship. I was

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full on world championship fight in Libya?

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Speaker 3: Is that a sa I'll put it to you like

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this JJ And anybody that follows my sub stack on

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Fridfreetion night knows that I update the schedule every day,

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but I blast out the new one every Tuesday, And

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for fifteen years I maintained the schedule on a daily

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based in ESPN dot com. And I can say to

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you with very good authority in my recollection, never until

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I added this card to my substack boxing schedule, had

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I ever listed a boxing event in the country of Libya.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's not even in Tripoli where our man Kadafi

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who had all the problems and was a terrorist and

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we had to bomb the crap out of him, he's

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no longer around. It's not even in TRIPLEI the head

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of them.

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Speaker 3: But here's one other thing about it, not to belabor

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the point, is I actually I was in touch with

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Kimille l Stefan, who was the promoter, you know, from

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Ia the Tiger, because at the time I was trying

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to ascertain whether this was legitimate or and since he

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was the promoter of Albert Ramirez, I asked him. I

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emailed him and I said, hey, you know, Camille, I

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see this fight card in Libya and it says your

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guy Ramirez is on the show in this light heavyweight eliminator,

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and you know, on what's the story with us? And

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he wrote back and he said that it was accurate,

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and you know, he was looking forward to having his

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guy get the opportunity, and that he was staying busy.

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It's his fort fight in twelve months. And he made

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the point that boxing is is In fact, of course,

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we know this intellectually. It's a worldwide sport and there's

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lots of places that want to bring in these types

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of events to help raise their profile, and boxing has

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always been away historically for countries to do that or

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cities to do that. And this is like the latest example.

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Speaker 2: All right, Friday afternoon US time from Libya on his

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own for those fights that Dan was just talking about.

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Now a week from Saturday, it is the return of

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Moses Etama. He is a big deal right now, especially

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in the UK. He is now getting attention everywhere from

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fight fans, but especially in the UK. He's about to

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fight veteran Dillian White. You don't have to wait for

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fight week. Dan Rayfield just spoke with Moses Etama. Hear

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that conversation first right here, right now on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's my pleasure to welcome to our podcast this week.

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For the first time, it's the heavyweight up and comer prospect,

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some say contender. It's Moses Etama. Moses, I'll tell the

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folks what's going on. You've got a pretty big fight

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coming up, the biggest of your career. I would imagine

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you're fighting the longtime contender, Dyllian White. You guys are

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gonna headline the card and read Saudi Arabia on his

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own pay per view August sixteenth, Welcome to the show.

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Thank you very much for doing this today.

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Speaker 4: Very much. A lot that introduction, I was literally just

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saying that like the American people bring us different type

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of energy. Everybody's like excited or whatnot. So I'm gonna

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have to visit America one day.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll be happy to have you come here to visit,

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maybe even to fight someday. But you mentioned, you know

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you're a young guy making your way up the ranks.

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I don't think you have that big of a name

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here in America yet. Of course maybe you do so

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in the UK compared to here for sure. So for

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the folks that aren't that familiar with the time, I

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certainly am tell us just a little bit about how

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you sort of got your starting boxing.

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Speaker 4: How I started in boxing. So my school, Greeneck Academy,

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it was like a sports college and it happened to

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be where like I think there we calculated it. It

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was like nine European gold medals, like ten to eleven

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national titles, a youth Olympic medal, like a world a

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world medal. Couple professional boxes have gone have gone to

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the gone to my school and my my older brother

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he had to be he happened to be in a

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classroom with I believe it's two or three other boxes

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and my brother Carol, he wanted to get into the

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into the talk of the boxing talk. And then he

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went down to the boxing gym he won his first

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national title, and then he said, bro, you're not doing anything,

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come to the boxing gym with me.

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Speaker 3: So how old were you at that time?

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Speaker 4: Nine years old? I would have a ton in ten.

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Speaker 3: So ever since then, you've been on the trail and

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here we are now as you get ready for this fight. Listen.

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At the end of twenty twenty four, I picked you

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as the prospect of the year. I've been taking prospects

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of the year for my publications for twenty five years.

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A lot of people in the business picked you as

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the prospect of your fans identified most of the timas

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maybe the best prospect in boxing. And I wonder how

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did that make you feel? Was it a sense of excitement?

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Did you feel pressure to give you confidence.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think I was going to win that because

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I've really although he's firing one of my mates, I'll

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do really right, Abdilla Mason, and I'll do really right

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Amelion August. So I didn't think I was going to

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win it, but I appreciate it, and I think I'm

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thankful to those people that they vote for me. I'm

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I'm trying my best with this box in and it's

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nice to see that I'm getting recognition.

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly, the other young guys you mentioned in Abdula Mason,

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the million of Vargus, are you know, in that same level,

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So there was certainly a competition. One of the things

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about you that's struck me. You know, you're you're that

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rare southpaw fighter with punching power. But yeah, a lot

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of people were comparing you to Mike Tyson, not a

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South pop but obviously made his name at a very

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young age. I wonder that that sort of seemed unfair

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to me, not just for most of the time, but

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to compare any young fighter to Mike Tyson, Well, what

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was your when you heard those or read those comparisons?

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What did that make you think?

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Speaker 4: I may not kind of put on myself. I think

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the only comparisons that me and Matt Tussin have is

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that he he was killing it when he was twenty

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twenty one, twenty two, and it looks like I'm on

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the path to do the same. So I guess that's

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the kind of where the comparison has come in. Do

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I like hit and know with a lot to change it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, kind of. No, so I'm not going to crab right.

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It seems like you're pretty realistic about it that people

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are gonna say, you know, and listen, a lot of

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the I would think, I mean, not just because you've

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got obviously a big punching power, but the comparisons are

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based on the age situation. As you mentioned, he was

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twenty years old when he became the heavyweight champion. You

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are twenty years old presently, obviously very young for the

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position that you're in. But does it get tiresome of

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having so many people when they talk about you talk

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about it, make make your age such a big thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, that was Buck. I'll calm control people's minds back.

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The only thing that I've got and control is my

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fias and I'm doing that to the best of my ability.

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Speaker 3: Well, there are a lot of people that also besides

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just again, like I said, unfair comparisons to Iron Mike Tyson.

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They say, you know, this is a young man that's

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going to follow in the footsteps of the great British

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heavyweights Lennox, Lewis, Anthony joshuay Fury. When you hear that

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in those comparisons, I mean, those are your countrymen, guys.

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I'm sure you watched through the years. How does that

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make you feel? I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know. I don't really know. I don't

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feel a certain type of way about it. When I

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came into this sport, Yeah, it was kind of more

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like I've got introduced. I've got introduced to it with

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my brother, and like it was just something that I

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did and it just became a routine and then I

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messed around, happened to get kind of good at it,

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and then here we are, Like, like, I think the

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one thing that I do love about boxing is that

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it's well respected. Like when when when you're walking down

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the street, every guy's like, okay, cool, that's that boxer. Yeah,

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like let me not do you what I mean? Whereas

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like whereas that with other sports you might not necessarily

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have that. So that is kind of something that kind

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of flashed into my eyes. But it was never a

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thing where it's like I want that, I want to

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be that. It was just something that I've always done

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and if I don't do it, I feel like I'm

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out of pattern. I feel like I'm out of rhythm.

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I just I don't feel like I'm doing my purpose.

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00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: Were there other fighters professionals that you watched as a

474
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,279
as a young man watching as you were coming up

475
00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:14,640
the ranks, Guys that you emulated that you wanted to

476
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,839
model yourself after.

477
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 4: No, No, Like with the Ben Davison team, we kind

478
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,400
of like tailor to the opponent. So for example, like

479
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,880
when I boxed Marius Whakia, I was watching a lot

480
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,079
of Manipakio and then even Devas Devas Shani. He was

481
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,000
like Moses Talma, like was moving like a heavyweight Manipakio,

482
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,160
but like I never mentioned many Pakio in no interviews

483
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,920
or nothing, but he knew that I was trying to

484
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,759
emulate what he was doing. And then it happened to

485
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,720
against Dempson McKean. It was sort of the same thing

486
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:53,319
with Anthony Joshua and in Ghanu. They done the same

487
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,119
thing and then the same outcome happened for this fight.

488
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,279
I'm not going to say nothing, but it's not It's

489
00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:01,680
not something where thought, Okay, cool, I'm gonna box out

490
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,200
this one file. It's like I'm gonna taylor to the opponent.

491
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,319
Speaker 3: So as we mentioned, you're twenty years old and Dylan White,

492
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,119
who's at a long and outstanding career. He is thirty

493
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,200
seven years old, seventeen year age gap. How much of

494
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,759
a difference do you think that plays in the terms

495
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:20,160
of the matchup between you? Guess, I mean, I'll go a.

496
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 4: Brother that's thirty seven years old Jan and he wouldn't.

497
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,480
I mean, it wouldn't be able to keep up with me.

498
00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:30,519
So I feel like it will play a fact up.

499
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:34,039
But often he's got that experience where I don't. So

500
00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:36,799
I guess it's youth against experience, and that's why it

501
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:38,680
makes it makes this fight such a good fight.

502
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,039
Speaker 3: Well, and like I said, regardless of his age, he's

503
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:44,720
clearly a step up for you in terms of the

504
00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:47,680
level of the opponent and what he's accomplished, his experience,

505
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,599
the types of opponents he has faced. He's only got

506
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:54,559
the three losses Anthony Joshua. You know, ten years ago

507
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,839
Alexander Povetkin in a fight he was winning where he

508
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,400
got caught with a great shot, and Tyson Fury, you know,

509
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,640
world champion and ship fight. Are there anything when you

510
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,079
when you looked at him or you think about the

511
00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:06,240
way the fights in Is there anything about Dylan White

512
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,880
that concerns you.

513
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, any heavyweight has the ability to knock out

514
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,160
any other heavyweight, So Dallian, why it's always gonna pose

515
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,119
a threat more than more so than others. But at

516
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,279
the same time, like, I also prose a threat to Dillian,

517
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,799
So that's only one way to find out.

518
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: And that's true. Uh, Like he's won since the Fury

519
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,839
loss he suffered. He has won three fights in a row,

520
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,319
but he's also been stopped in the three losses. And you,

521
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,160
of course are known for the big punching power. Is

522
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,160
a knockout on your mind at all? And you think

523
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,000
that if you don't get a knockout that people are

524
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,480
gonna put that even if you win negatively because you

525
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,000
didn't get the knockout and the other bigger name heavyweights.

526
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: Did you know the reason why people feel pressure and

527
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,559
the reason why people don't perform the way that they're

528
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,240
supposed to perform is because they're too close to trade

529
00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:03,160
on the result. Me, however, I'm concentrated on the game plan.

530
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,039
I'm concentrated on the fight. The result is going to

531
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,119
be what the results going to be. You have no

532
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,839
control over that. So am I do I want to

533
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,359
knock out yes, am I going to look for it. No,

534
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,279
do I want it to happen one hundred percent, But

535
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,599
is there is there a possibility that it couldn't It

536
00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:24,160
could not happen and it could go tits up.

537
00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: I like that because a lot of fighters won't even

538
00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:28,960
acknowledge that they that they'd like to get a knockout.

539
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,519
They're just like, whatever happens happens.

540
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,759
Speaker 4: You've got to be realistic. I think in the boxing.

541
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,039
What I love about boxing is you're in constant touch

542
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:39,799
of reality. Like if I go after this fight, Yeah,

543
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,400
if I go on a mad bender for four weeks

544
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,359
and they say, okay, cool, you're going to be fighting

545
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,640
Alexander Uzik now in ten weeks and I start sparring,

546
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,400
then four weeks that I was on the bend.

547
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: That's going to show, right.

548
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: So like.

549
00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm in constant touch of reality, which is

550
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:01,640
which I like.

551
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna get to that. I'm gonna get that

552
00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:06,000
at USK and just one quick sec I won one

553
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,319
other question before that, because you mentioned just a minute

554
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,480
ago about working with your trainer, Ben Davison, and he's

555
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,359
got a ton of experience with heavyweights. He trained Tyson

556
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,000
Fury when he was champion. He's trained Anthony Joshua. Tell

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,480
me a little bit about what it's like working with him,

558
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,839
what he brings to the table, because obviously heavyweights seemed

559
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:23,640
to be something that he excels at dealing with.

560
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,079
Speaker 4: No, he's he's obviously like a big part of my career.

561
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:32,279
I did pick very very carefully with when I was

562
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,240
going in the such for a new trainer.

563
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,279
Speaker 1: I think me.

564
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:41,559
Speaker 4: And Ben was definitely a link cup that had to happen.

565
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,000
I don't think my career would have gone the way

566
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,319
it would have gone well.

567
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,559
Speaker 3: Like I said, in terms of USIK, he's the undisputed champion,

568
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:52,160
and there's been a lot of pundits people have said

569
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,359
written that if Moses Tama wins this fight in decent

570
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,079
style against Dilan White, and he should get the shot

571
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720
at the undisputed title next that uh, you know, in

572
00:27:00,759 --> 00:27:03,640
the next matchup. Uh. Maybe some people might say it's

573
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,599
a little bit too soon, especially because there's other top

574
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,039
contenders who are in position Joseph Parker at Gikabiel, for example,

575
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:13,000
who have been in mandatory spots and have seemly earned

576
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,279
that spot. What do you think about the folks that

577
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,759
say that and you feel like you would be ready

578
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:18,480
for that level of opponent next.

579
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't lose anything out of it.

580
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:23,599
Speaker 3: I don't.

581
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,559
Speaker 4: I will not lose. I think it's a win win

582
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,880
situation for me. I don't lots to use the word

583
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,519
disove because obviously don't get we disove, you get we negotiate.

584
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,559
Speaker 3: Good point, and.

585
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 4: But I would have to say that Jeoseph Parker and

586
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:48,279
Ajacabayel like I have charged enough to the game, whereas

587
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,680
I haven't. But then yet again, I'm come hit to

588
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:54,440
negotiating to disserve understood.

589
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 3: That's a great place to leave it off. I'm always

590
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,279
thank you so much for your time today. I really

591
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:00,960
appreciate and I wish you into success in your fight

592
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,480
coming up.

593
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,759
Speaker 4: About to have a good eaven.

594
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:03,559
Speaker 3: Thank you.

595
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,519
Speaker 1: We're good. We'll come off of that and go to

596
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:12,160
the news. Here we go. You like that about the

597
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,759
kick with the candle? You know you did? Here we

598
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:19,119
go three two, Okay, So I'll go ahead and put

599
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,720
this out there.

600
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: My buddy David Payne in England is riding a little

601
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,359
bit for Big Fight Weekend dot com as well as

602
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,880
his own site right now, and he is the last

603
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:33,160
one to engage in hyperbole, and he is cautiously bringing

604
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,920
it up. That is this similar to the rise of

605
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,279
Mike Tyson at this stage, the same kind of buzz

606
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,480
in England, the same kind of buzz in the UK.

607
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,279
He's not saying he is Mike Tyson. All right, you

608
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,440
just talked to him. How much of this is hype

609
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,799
and buzz? How much of it is warranted in your mind?

610
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:54,359
What do you think having talked to with Tomma Now, well, that's.

611
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 3: Like I said to him. I said, I feel like

612
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,480
that there are these comparisons being made between you and Tyson,

613
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,559
and I feel like, whether it's you or any other heavyweight,

614
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:05,960
it's unfair to invoke the name Mike Tyson with anybody.

615
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,799
And he was like, he kind of agreed. I mean,

616
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,559
people can just hear what he said. He agreed, He's like,

617
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,079
but I can't help it. So the one thing I

618
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:15,640
came away from this, and this is the first time

619
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,519
I'd ever spoken to most of the time, oh, i'd

620
00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,920
actually written about and picked at the end of twenty

621
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,359
twenty four as my prospect of the year. I've been

622
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,480
picking prospects for twenty five years, and I really take

623
00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:30,240
it seriously. And there was a few different people I considered,

624
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,599
but I ended up going with Moses E. Tama And

625
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:37,400
but what a what a very engaging and just chill,

626
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,640
very humble, nice young man. I mean, he's twenty years old,

627
00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,759
but feels like from just you know, again, I can't

628
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,240
base everything on just a you know, about a fifteen

629
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,119
minute conversation with the guy, but mature and understands what

630
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,440
is in front of him and seems grounded.

631
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: And he's not even twenty one years old yet.

632
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:02,519
Speaker 2: And he was very well spoken from what you just

633
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:03,559
heard there in the interview.

634
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,839
Speaker 3: So stay I can't say enough good things because the

635
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:12,680
combination of watching him fight, hearing him speak and answer

636
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,839
the questions in the manner that he did you have

637
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,480
to come away and press and makes like an easy

638
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,720
guy to root for it all right?

639
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,279
Speaker 1: Man?

640
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,119
Speaker 2: If he dispatches destroys Dillion White, the hype meter goes

641
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:23,960
up even more.

642
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,119
Speaker 1: On is he on.

643
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,839
Speaker 2: The USIK radar title shot radar in another fight or two?

644
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:33,759
Stay tuned, stay tuned. If that is the case, all right,

645
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,039
nice work on that. I will say to the podcast

646
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:42,079
audience that soon will put that video up on the

647
00:30:42,119 --> 00:30:45,640
Big Fight. Weeke in YouTube page another plug. But see Rayphiel,

648
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:46,839
we got a method to the madness.

649
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: You know this. We've been game planning.

650
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,039
Speaker 2: You heard it here first on the podcast, So there's

651
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,599
unique content that's going to go on the podcast first,

652
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,920
or like the Grisham interview that we did live that's

653
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,079
on the YouTube page first.

654
00:30:58,119 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: We may replay it some on the pod.

655
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,079
Speaker 2: Some scribed to both find both Speaking of England and

656
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:04,960
speaking of news, we have a new date for the

657
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:09,319
Chris u Bank Connor Ben rematch. Raphael I wanted this earlier,

658
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:14,160
but it's now November fifteenth. Turkey Ala Chic had announced

659
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,319
it for September. Now the rematch in November was a

660
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:20,319
great fight earlier this year. I tell me more, what

661
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,240
do we know about why they're having to wait another

662
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,480
sixty days? Venue issue, promoter issue, what's going on?

663
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 3: Well, none of those issues. I mean, it will still

664
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,839
be like you said. It was originally announced, it was

665
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,559
supposed to be September twentieth, and if you remember back

666
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:35,279
to the time when that was announced by Turkey, Chris

667
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,200
Ubank never said a word about it, was very silent,

668
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,880
didn't really acknowledge it wasn't on in social media, but

669
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,079
Ben was all over. It was excited and ready to go,

670
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,039
so right off the bat, you kind of, at least

671
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:46,799
for me anyway, my kind of radar went uple, and

672
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:48,880
that you're like, okay, well they announced it, and if

673
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,359
Turkey announced it, you know, it's usually pretty legit because

674
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:54,720
he's the one that's paying them money and making sure

675
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,880
everything happens. But for whatever the reason, you Bank was

676
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,599
not down with September twenty. Now, the one thing about

677
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,279
their original fight contract was was that the rematch, which

678
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,920
was a rematch, regardless of the outcome of the first fight,

679
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,480
which was a fantastic fight that took place earlier in

680
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,440
the year, which for my money is probably the fight

681
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,240
of the year at the moment, was the rematch had

682
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,359
to take place before the end of calendar year twenty

683
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:21,680
twenty five, and it was at their discretion, meaning Sela

684
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:25,160
and Turkey and those folks. So they opted for September twentieth.

685
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,839
But but you Bank, for whatever the reason, I don't know,

686
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,279
if he was nursing some minor injuries or what have you,

687
00:32:29,319 --> 00:32:31,440
whatever the case, maybe he was not into that date.

688
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:34,519
So at the end of the day, they wanted to

689
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,000
have the fight, so they ended up changing the date

690
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,799
to November fifteenth. There's no magic to September twentieth. Then

691
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,200
there's no magic to November fifteenth, and so it is

692
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,279
what it is. It's not like they're waiting a tremendous

693
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:46,720
amount of time. They're both going to have both fights

694
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,279
in the calendar year of twenty twenty five. Neither guy

695
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,880
was going to probably fight more than twice a year anyway, obviously,

696
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,079
and so instead of doing it in September, they'll do

697
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,200
it a couple of months later in November. It will

698
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,119
still be by the way at the same location where

699
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:01,720
they had the first fight, at the Tottenham Stadium in London,

700
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,640
so they'll have I'm sure another big crowd. The only

701
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,039
negativity about that is you got to figure that September twentieth,

702
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,319
you're probably dealing with better weather situation, not maybe as

703
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,319
cold as it will become November fifteenth.

704
00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: But you know, that's uh, And that is not a

705
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:17,039
retractable roof.

706
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,559
Speaker 1: It's not a dome. That's an open air stadium.

707
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: But Tyson Fury fought their outdoors and that sort of thing. Oh,

708
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,519
it's not the first time that they'll do that.

709
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: And that was a tremendous battle everything I said this

710
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,519
earlier in the year, we can rarely say this. Everything

711
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,359
about that was perfect. The atmosphere was phenomenal, the fight

712
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,000
was phenomenal. How those guys conducted themselves with class after

713
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,039
the fight towards each other and everybody. It's like, hall lujah,

714
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:42,839
this can actually happen. So I don't know what's going

715
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,480
to happen with the second fight, but at least for

716
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,200
that first fight, there's a lot of intrigue and build up,

717
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,960
especially in the UK, we realize.

718
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:52,279
Speaker 3: The question and it'll be I assume it's going to

719
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,519
be another another good fight in you know, like I said,

720
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:57,240
just because they switched the date by two months. To me,

721
00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,160
it doesn't make it happen in the scheme of boxing

722
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,799
now not a big deal.

723
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,319
Speaker 2: Good segue inadvertently or not that The next week, November

724
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:07,319
twenty second, is the big card in Riod that has

725
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,639
David Benavitez and Anthony Yard headlining, but now it also

726
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,760
has Archer better BV not fighting Dimitri Bvol. Right, Phil,

727
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,199
you want me to say it, what are we doing here?

728
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,719
I thought we were waiting on Benavitez fighting Bevol because

729
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,599
he was going to Bevol fight Better Bev instead, but

730
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,199
now Better BV is fighting somebody else on Benavitez is undercard.

731
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,599
Speaker 1: What is going on here? But do we know? What?

732
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:32,960
Do we know?

733
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,039
Speaker 3: So they were supposed to have the third fight, so

734
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:40,280
much so that when the WBC ordered Dmiti Bible, who

735
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,159
won the rematch, to become the undisputed champion after Better

736
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,679
BF had won the unification fight in the first fight

737
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,840
to become the undisputed champion, the WBC ordered, did Dmitri

738
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,440
be able to make the mandatory against David Benavitez and Bevo?

739
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,039
This was like six weeks after the fight, and so

740
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,800
his undisputed status was done after six weeks because he

741
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,840
vacated the WBC belt, so he's only had now the

742
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,840
three belts, So while still the number one white heavyweight

743
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,480
in the world and the lineal champion, only had the

744
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,239
three of the belts, so no longer undisputed. But the

745
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,519
reason he said he did that was because he had

746
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:13,840
committed to Turkey and to Better Beef to give him

747
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,440
the third fight. Okay, that's honorable, that sounds reasonable, and

748
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,559
now that's not happening, so whether it's and then there

749
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,320
was this whole weird thing that happened about a month

750
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,800
or so ago where Turkey was like, you know what,

751
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,320
you guys can go do it if you want, because

752
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,079
they had I guess asked him if they could have

753
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:33,920
this unnamed entity put the fight on and cover the money,

754
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:35,599
but to do it in Russia, where both of the

755
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,360
fighters are from, and Turkey said okay, and so then

756
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,840
it was like, all right, they're gonna do the fight

757
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,840
in Russia. But there was no date, no set thing,

758
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960
no announced a promoter or venue or anything like that.

759
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,400
So it's sort of seemed a little squirrely. So now

760
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,039
I guess better beef you know who was then complaining

761
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:56,000
on social media about supposedly feeling like that Bibbo was

762
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,159
avoiding him and like, you know, kind of dragging his

763
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:01,440
feet to schedule this third fight. I feel like what's

764
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,679
going on here is that he's taking this interim fight

765
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,199
because he doesn't want to let himself get too rusty.

766
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:07,760
You know, he's going to be forty one years old

767
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,320
in January. Now. I asked Dimitri Biebeles manager that Dian

768
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,039
Kornilov about that, and literally right before we started to

769
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,440
tape this podcast, I had sent him a text like

770
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,199
a second one earlier in the day, just to double check, Hey,

771
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,119
what's going on with this. He's like, I'll have some

772
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:23,000
news about what's up in a couple of days. So

773
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:28,559
I feel like both of them are exactly So it

774
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,400
seems like he's gonna have the better Be as fighting

775
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,719
the fight November twenty second. He's added to that card. It's,

776
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,320
by the way, you know, not to say not the

777
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,800
Better Be is fighting a huge name opponent. He's taken

778
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,440
on a Dion Nicholson who's not a particularly well known fighter,

779
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,039
got a good record, but never fought really anybody of consequence.

780
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:47,880
I actually just saw his last fight because he fought

781
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,559
on the Deontay Wilder undercard that took place, you know what,

782
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:52,239
I'm two months ago, a month and a half ago.

783
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,320
So that's like kind of a stay busy fight for

784
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,960
better Be. I think you can't even argue with that,

785
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,760
because you know, he is not the champion at the moment,

786
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,480
and he hasn't had a soft touch fight in like

787
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,800
years basically, So that's just like an added addition to

788
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,800
a card that already has Benavide's in Yard and Brian

789
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,119
Norman Haney and Bam Rodriguez and a unification against Puma

790
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:17,000
Martinez and Abdula Mason against Sam Noaks and Stas against

791
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,320
Dalton Smith. And so you want to throw on Better

792
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,559
BF too. I'm down for that. So he's gonna fight

793
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,599
that fight in November. Maybe Beevile will have another fight

794
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:26,760
of his own sometime, you know, before the end of

795
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,400
this year. And then I assume if everything goes okay

796
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,079
and there's no injuries, that the guys will have their

797
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,000
third fight or at the beginning of next year.

798
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: Or we've seen this like five times already this year.

799
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,519
What happens if Better BVV loses possible it's boxing.

800
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: So he's taking a risk. How big a risk?

801
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: We got more time to dissect that, and we got

802
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,639
a while before we get to November anyway, But that

803
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,760
is amazing.

804
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: TJ's risk or not. You can't just have guys just

805
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,639
sitting not fight.

806
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,079
Speaker 1: I don't disgree, just not good and you on that,

807
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:55,320
and it.

808
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: Made it made me wonder whether they're angling that if

809
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,239
Bevil doesn't want to come to whatever agreement that you've

810
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,480
got Better BV and ben Avitas on the same car

811
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,760
and now they might end up fighting who knows.

812
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: But don't stay tuned. It's boxing, none of it.

813
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,599
Speaker 3: And by the ways, for the record, they also have

814
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,920
if he's going to take an inter fight. Also, remember

815
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,039
he's got a mandatory with the IBF that has to

816
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,079
get dealt with also, And I know their camps have

817
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,519
been talking. But if they if they're allowing better bev

818
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:25,000
or a better vie on his own, is just take

819
00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:27,960
an interrovite, maybe they just go ahead and do uh

820
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880
the mandatory in the IBF and be done with it

821
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:32,480
and then move on to the to the nd.

822
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,679
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what the Beeble announcement is. If they're going

823
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,199
to do that, I don't know, stay tuned. Uh, we

824
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,719
do know this.

825
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: Oscar de la Hooya gave an interview on that Dez

826
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,719
owned Golden Boys show this past weekend, and he made

827
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,119
it very clear that he doesn't want to see Ryan

828
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:49,800
Garcia rematch Roley Romero, who beat him back in the

829
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,800
first weekend in May in New York. All Right, so

830
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,599
gimme gimme more on what Oscar was saying on that broadcast.

831
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:58,519
Of course, he and Ryan Garcia apparently aren't I to

832
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:01,119
eye most of the time. I'm including on this because

833
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:04,480
garcias Garcia is making fun of Oscar. I saw the

834
00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:08,280
videos again this week, mocking like Oscar, lose my phone

835
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,000
number and I'm paraphrasing, unless I get twenty million dollars

836
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,639
for my next fight, blah blah blah.

837
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:14,119
Speaker 3: He did come out and say that wasn't that was

838
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:15,559
him just goofing around that he didn't.

839
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,599
Speaker 2: Of course, But I mean, all right, so Ryan Garcia

840
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,960
probably most likely not rematching Roly Romero.

841
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: What's realistic here? What was Oscar talking about?

842
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: Well, at least not yet. I mean, I'm not saying

843
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,039
they should never have a rematch. I mean, you always

844
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:29,760
want to get back and you know, do it. But

845
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,119
I thought, I listen with Oscar. I don't always agree

846
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:33,840
with what Oscar says, and sometimes a lot of what

847
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,639
Oscar says is wacky, do you know. But in this

848
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,480
particular instance, I couldn't agree with mister de Laway anymore

849
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,719
because he made a great point. This is him doing

850
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,159
an interview during his show with Chris Mannix on the

851
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,559
Dionne broadcast when Duarte had to fight the other week

852
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:51,039
against Kenny Simms. He made the point, if you're a

853
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:54,760
promoter and you're doing rematches, it's because there's a reason

854
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,599
for it. People want to see it. I mean, nobody

855
00:39:56,679 --> 00:40:00,320
want to see Ryan Garcia and Roly Romero a second time.

856
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,719
And he may make stunk and stunk and that's he

857
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,119
didn't say stunk, but he said it.

858
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: Wasn't saying you're saying stunk.

859
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: Well, here's all you got to know about that fight.

860
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,559
They combined to throw four hundred and ninety punches. It

861
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,119
was the fourth lowest output combined in a twelve round

862
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,920
fight in the history of copybox track fights for forty

863
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,519
years that were twelve rounders. So horrible fight. One moment

864
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:24,880
in the fight where Romero got a knockdown against Ryan Garcia,

865
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:26,840
and other than that they both slept walk through it.

866
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,599
You know, you know, congratulations Romero. He won the bout,

867
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,519
he got the regular WBA title, and now he's since

868
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,920
become the only WBA champion of the welterweight division because

869
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,400
Bootennis is moving on up and you know, we'll be

870
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,320
vacating and then in the near future. But the point is,

871
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,679
or maybe he has vacated already. Yeah he did that kid,

872
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,639
I guess. But anyway, the reality is nobody really cares

873
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,599
about seeing that fight again. So Oscar was like, I

874
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,239
don't really want to do that fight. I'd rather go

875
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,639
and do a fight that I feel like will be

876
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:58,280
a lot more entertaining. So he named specifically a fight

877
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,840
against Tiathimo Lopez Junior, who is the junior welterweight champion

878
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,119
who has talked about in the recent times about moving

879
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:07,320
up to the welterweight division. So it's not like there's

880
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:07,719
some kind of.

881
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Crazy one on that same car exactly, and looked at

882
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:13,719
least decent on that ring Fatal Fury Car.

883
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,519
Speaker 3: He was probably the one that looked the best of

884
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:17,199
a of a card that didn't really feature a lot

885
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,880
of outstanding performances. But the size is not a big

886
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,599
deal because Garcia has fought plenty of his fight career

887
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:25,480
at one So if Timo goes Fimo goes up, and

888
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,679
you know it's not a championship fight, but you know what,

889
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,360
there'd be a lot of people interested in that fight.

890
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,800
To you, probably a good amount of money for everybody involved.

891
00:41:33,039 --> 00:41:35,159
That was That was what Oscar's point.

892
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: Was one other factor, and.

893
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,199
Speaker 3: Also and to make sure that Ryan was healthy.

894
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: That was just going right. Ray Phield, We've been doing

895
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,079
this for three years. Will you let me get to that.

896
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: I was finishing point.

897
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me get to the point where I'm

898
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:47,639
going to follow up with the question that you go

899
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,119
ahead and blurt out the answer to which is we

900
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:55,079
understood more that Garcia was weird after that fight. After

901
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,000
that fight, he was like, that is what it is.

902
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,280
He was standing there in the ring going credit to him.

903
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:03,519
He wasn't disrespectful of Romero winning. And then it made

904
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:06,400
more sense to me. I'm not making excuses, but it

905
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,039
made more sense to me that we found out he

906
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:11,280
had hurt his hand in training, and now it made

907
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,639
some more sense on why he looked as bad as

908
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:17,599
he looked. So what did he have to have hand surgery?

909
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:19,519
You're the ultimate insert do we have any idea? So

910
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:22,639
we had another hand surgery, and so that's a factor.

911
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,480
That's a factor here too, And what is he going

912
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,039
to look like off of the hand surgery.

913
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:28,199
Speaker 3: Well, Oscar's point was at the end of the comments

914
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,360
was while he was talking about making Ryan against Tiafimo

915
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,239
or some other bigger name and not doing Romero, he said,

916
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,519
but the main thing is, you know, we need Ryan

917
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,599
to be in great health first before we do anything.

918
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,880
So he did have the surgery. He has been back

919
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,119
training to some degree, if you believe the videos that

920
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,599
he's posted. I'm sure he's not using the hand full

921
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:49,320
blast just yet. But it wasn't, by my understanding, the

922
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,159
type of surgery that was going to keep him out

923
00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:53,079
for months and months and months. It was just sort

924
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:55,440
of cleaned things up a little bit, you know, in

925
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,400
terms of the seriousness level. You know, if five is like,

926
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,320
oh my god, you got to have your hand removed,

927
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,400
you know, this was probably like about a one, a

928
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,320
one and a half thing. So it wasn't too bad,

929
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:05,960
all right.

930
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,159
Speaker 2: So we'll find out more about Ryan Garcia's next About meantime,

931
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:15,599
Most Valuable Promotions has signed a large prospect off the

932
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,559
twenty twenty four US Olympic team. They announced that this week.

933
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:24,199
Tell us more about Jamal Harvey here and what you.

934
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:24,599
Speaker 1: Think of him.

935
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: This is a great signing for MVP. In my mind,

936
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,519
I kind of had been thinking, not like recently, but

937
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:33,199
at one point I thought to myself, a guy that

938
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,519
when I watched the Olympics, and I watched every single

939
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,199
bout basically of the entire games, and definitely watched every

940
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,920
American fight that of the American team, the two guys

941
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,119
that stood out to me as a fighter. So I

942
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:50,440
felt like, and admittedly not a great American team, but

943
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,719
a team where you know, no matter how good or

944
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,840
bad it is, there's going to be a certain, you know,

945
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,320
ranking of who you think are the best pro prospects.

946
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,079
And so when I looked at the US team and

947
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,760
followed their progress in the games, win or lose, the

948
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,559
guys I thought were the best guys that would translate

949
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:10,679
into the professional ranks. Where Omari Jones, who is now

950
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,840
signed with Matt Troom Boxing, has already got a handful

951
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,280
of fights and the pros under his belt. And Jamal

952
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,880
Harvey who had not yet turned pro, and I wasn't

953
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,239
sure if he had turn pro, if he was going

954
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,719
to go pro, if there was an injury, or was

955
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,599
just taking some time off. But at the end, he

956
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:26,559
wasn't sure if he was going to turn pro what

957
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:28,679
I was told. But he's only he's a young guy,

958
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,920
he's only twenty two years old. He's from he actually

959
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,079
it comes from right close to where I live. He lives.

960
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,559
He's based out of Oxen Hill, Maryland, which is a Washington,

961
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:38,639
DC suburb. It's probably twenty minutes from my house and

962
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:42,320
it's right by where the MGM National Harbor is, which

963
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,760
is a venue where they've hosted plenty of fights over

964
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,079
the years. So my hope is that if he develops,

965
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,559
that MVP will come and do a show in that

966
00:44:49,639 --> 00:44:52,239
outstanding venue and it'll be a home game for Rayfield.

967
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,840
But look, he's a junior lightweight, a SUPERB prospect. This

968
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,599
is a guy that is massively decorated. Besides just getting

969
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:02,679
to the quarterfinals the Olympics in Paris last summer, you know,

970
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,880
he's been boxing since age thirteen, ten time US national champion,

971
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:11,360
but also had experience besides in the in the Olympics,

972
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,840
other impressive performances on the international level. He won the

973
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,280
twenty twenty one Amateur World Championship. He was the first

974
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,000
American man to do that since two thousand and seven.

975
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,079
That's like a pretty big deal. And he was also

976
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,239
he did that as one of the youngest fighters in

977
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,519
the tournament, whatever the weight class, and when he won

978
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:31,039
the and that's one of the other besides the World

979
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:34,039
Championships and the Olympics, probably one of the most prestigious

980
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:37,360
tournaments you can win, at least in this part of

981
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,760
the world is the Pan American Games and in twenty

982
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,320
twenty three, he won a gold medal in the Pan

983
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,360
American Games, which automatically qualified him for the Olympics. So

984
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:48,480
this is a young kid that's decorated besides just fighting

985
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,639
the Olympics, he's won everything as the amateurs and been

986
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:54,559
involved at that highest level. And I think this is

987
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,760
a great signing. Like I said, I didn't the he

988
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,199
was going to sign up, but I said when I

989
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,840
saw him fight a year ago about in the Olympics

990
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:04,280
that him and Omari Omari Jones were the two best

991
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,119
pro prospects that we had on the United States team.

992
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:11,360
So I'm actually looking forward to seeing them do his thing.

993
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,280
And I'll tell you, you know, I know MVP right

994
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,960
now is known because they're signing all the top women

995
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,599
and they've been doing that and they're doing a great

996
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,519
job with it, and they've signed tons of the top

997
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,639
female boxers. But you know, don't sleep on what they're

998
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:26,079
doing besides the women, because they've gotten themselves a nice

999
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:29,320
little stable that they work with besides their own fighters

1000
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,719
and the fighters they team up with that are with

1001
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,320
box Lab where they do all these events in Orlando, Florida.

1002
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,440
So anyway, as far as Harvey concerned his professional debut.

1003
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,280
They've added him in his so he's also he turning

1004
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,519
pro in a six rounder, not in a four rounder.

1005
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,199
He's going to be added to their They've got their

1006
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,119
MVP Prospects here, So their MVP Prospects fourteen card, which

1007
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:52,880
takes place August twenty second at the Crib Royale in Orlando.

1008
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,079
They're actually doing events back to back lights. They got

1009
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:57,719
a prospect show on the twenty second, and then they got

1010
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,480
a non prospect you know, with some world title and

1011
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,000
that sort of thing, on the twenty third. So he'll

1012
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,320
turn professional on that August twenty second card on his own,

1013
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:09,519
and I say, welcome to the pro ranks. And I'm

1014
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:11,760
gonna be very interested to follow his progress because, like

1015
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,679
I said, really seems like a guy that can go

1016
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,639
a long way as a professional, all.

1017
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: Right, So keep an eye on the debut upcoming in

1018
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,719
a couple of weeks of Jamal Harvey. One more news item.

1019
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,559
Former two division world champ Oscar Valdez about to be back.

1020
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,679
He is going to fight Ricky Medina coming up in

1021
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,400
early September. Tell us more about the details. And of

1022
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,320
course this is a top rank fighter, so I saw

1023
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:40,239
the nugget I read my Rayphael Substack that Valdez is back,

1024
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,119
but we're still trying to figure out how we see

1025
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,440
this fight because Top Rank doesn't have a broadcast deal

1026
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:45,480
at the moment.

1027
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: So go ahead.

1028
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: Well, the main thing is that that Valdez, who's coming

1029
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,280
off that very harsh loss in the rematch against Emmanuel

1030
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,079
Neverrette where he got stopped, and an Oscar you know,

1031
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:56,480
who has been a credit to boxing for many years,

1032
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,719
a two time Mexican Olympian, a great amateur fighter. As

1033
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840
a professional, as you mentioned one, two world titles, both

1034
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,920
in the junior lightweight and in the featherweight division, has

1035
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,719
never ducked anybody, fought a lot of good guys, never

1036
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,000
at Tay twice. Of course, Stevenson, that's the good news.

1037
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:13,920
The bad news is he lost all three of those fights.

1038
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,639
But he's also been in some really exciting fights. You know,

1039
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,760
I'm maybe biased because I'll never forget and always have

1040
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,840
mad respect for him for what he did that night

1041
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,920
I was there in Los Angeles and Carson, California, rather

1042
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:30,039
when he defeated Scott Quigg. In any event, he wants

1043
00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,400
to give it another go. Top Rank is like you know,

1044
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,760
I think, you know, privately, I think Top Rank was

1045
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,480
kind of thinking maybe he should call it a dane

1046
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,800
and retire. But they have so much respect for Oscar.

1047
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,320
He's been with them since his professional debut. Top Rank

1048
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,119
is promoted his entire career, all thirty five of his

1049
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,039
professional fights. He's been extremely loyal and they're like, if

1050
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:49,239
the kid wants to give it another go, we're gonna

1051
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,159
support him. So they even without a TV deal, they

1052
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:55,239
have had for decades a very close working relationship with

1053
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,159
Fernando Beltron and his company's and for promotions and Zanfer

1054
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,400
promotes regular was in Mexico and they have a deal

1055
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,440
down in Mexico where their fights are on broadcast. And

1056
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:07,800
so they're putting him on this card and he's gonna

1057
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,800
fight Ricky Medina. It's not a top top name. Ricky

1058
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,679
Medina's sixteen and three, not a guy that's super well known.

1059
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,760
He's three and three in his last six fights. The

1060
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,599
first time he ever lost was in twenty twenty two

1061
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:22,039
at featherweight. He gave a good go but lost a

1062
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:24,679
decision to Raymond Ford, who would later go on to

1063
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,400
become the WBA featherweight Champion and you know, about three

1064
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,480
fights later or so. So this is a matter of

1065
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,840
Valdez getting back in the swing of things, trying to

1066
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,239
make another run. It's a big deal for Oscar because

1067
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,480
as as notable as he was as being a two

1068
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,320
time Mexican Olympian, in his entire career, he's only fought

1069
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,320
two times in Mexico. He fought in Mexico in his

1070
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,360
professional debut, and then in his eighth professional fight, he

1071
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,559
fought in Mexico. All the rest of US fights have

1072
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:51,960
been in the United States. He might have had a

1073
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,880
fight in Macau, but whatever, he's been fighting primarily in

1074
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
the United States of America. And so for him, not

1075
00:49:57,039 --> 00:49:58,679
only is he going back to Mexico for this fight,

1076
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,880
he's going to his hometown, which is No Gallas. So

1077
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:02,960
he's super pumped up to be fighting in front of

1078
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,599
the home crowd and hopefully for his sake, if he

1079
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:08,079
can get the job done, put himself in position perhaps

1080
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,480
to win another title or at least fight for another title.

1081
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:11,920
At one hundred and thirty pounds, they're going to do

1082
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,599
this fight a little bit over the weight. I talked

1083
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:15,800
to his manager, Frank Espino's it's a ten rounder. He

1084
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,519
said it's going to be contracted at one hundred and

1085
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,559
thirty two pounds, but that he still plans to fight

1086
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:22,639
at junior lightweight and we'll see if he has anything

1087
00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,480
to offer after this and as far as the broadcast goes.

1088
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,559
So one of the things that's been going on with

1089
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:31,039
the top rank, you know, they're putting guys on different

1090
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:33,719
cards while they get their broadcast situation squared away. But

1091
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,719
this particular event in Mexico and other places in Latin

1092
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,360
America is going to be on the series called ESPN

1093
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,119
Knockout yep. And so if you were we were talking

1094
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:44,800
about this before we started taping. If you remember just

1095
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,000
recently when they had to fight in one hundred eight

1096
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,199
pound world championship fight, when Carlos we.

1097
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: Talked about it.

1098
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 2: We talked about on the recap back Sunday that it

1099
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,440
was in ESPN Knockout for Canazalez's win, in concluding on

1100
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:57,360
the app, on the ESPN Plus app.

1101
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: In the United States, it was on ESPN the port

1102
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,960
Days and on ESPN Plus. So while they haven't made

1103
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,800
any determinations on where this fight's going to be in

1104
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,159
the United States, it's probably a decent bet that it

1105
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:13,239
would seemingly also appear on ESPN Deport Days and or

1106
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960
ESPN Plus. And I say that because, in addition to

1107
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,599
the Canazalas fight that we already saw under that circumstance,

1108
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,079
they just recently. You take a look on the ESPN

1109
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:26,000
Plus calendar and you go to boxing, you will notice

1110
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,280
that there's a boxing card next week on the sixteenth

1111
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,519
in Mexico that is a title eliminated between Rguie Cortes

1112
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,519
and Andrew Maloney. It has been added to the ESPN

1113
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:40,280
Deport Days and ESPN Plus schedule. So it feels like

1114
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,679
in the wake of the exit of Top Rank, they

1115
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:44,920
are at least picking up some of these ESPN Knockout

1116
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:48,280
programs that are in Mexico to show them domestically here

1117
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,400
in the United States. And the Valdez fight's already been

1118
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,320
advertised in their promotion when they announced the fight that

1119
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,800
it will be on ESPN Knockout in Mexico and other

1120
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,239
places in Latin America. So I would hope that it

1121
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,440
would also turn up also on that program on and

1122
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:03,960
we may.

1123
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean we got two or three weeks, we may

1124
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,320
hear an announcement from Top Rank that they have a

1125
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,760
deal and somewhere else to put it out.

1126
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: Uh, stay tuned. I don't know. I will just say this,

1127
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,199
I've been doing this a long time, just like you have.

1128
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,079
Speaker 2: You would think at this point they have something in

1129
00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:22,400
the works and they're trying to roll it out. They

1130
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,880
are too big of a company. It's been doing this

1131
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,960
too long. You would think that they're gonna roll something out.

1132
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,679
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying that so stage, but.

1133
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: I am very very confident that they're gonna wind up somewhere.

1134
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:40,320
They're gonna have a company. It's still gonna show fights,

1135
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,639
it's still gonna be copviser stream. I know there's people

1136
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,880
at the company who've signed NDAs out of that effect,

1137
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:50,000
so they don't talk about it. But there's look, I'm

1138
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,679
not fucking stupid. Something's happening. It's just gonna it's playing.

1139
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,559
Speaker 2: That it might and it might not be September, but

1140
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:57,599
it would shock me. I'm just saying this on the pod.

1141
00:52:57,639 --> 00:52:59,320
We keep it real. It would shock me if Top

1142
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,280
Rank doesn't have some kind of deal October November to

1143
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,199
put a fight card starting then on, because they've been

1144
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:08,639
doing too much regularly to stay out of sight, out

1145
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:11,119
of mind for month after month after month, and they

1146
00:53:11,159 --> 00:53:13,519
have known for months and months and months.

1147
00:53:13,559 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: We got to have somewhere in August September.

1148
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: And Easier said, well, you know, they want somebody to

1149
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,880
pay you, but they have the bottom line is people

1150
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,400
can say whatever they want, but I know what I know,

1151
00:53:24,519 --> 00:53:26,320
and I know in the top rank has a lot

1152
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,079
of talented fighters under contract who you want to see,

1153
00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:33,960
whether they're contenders and champions, or their young prospects coming up,

1154
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,519
or you know, guys just on the verge of being contenders.

1155
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,159
They have too much talent at that company on the

1156
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,920
executive level, whether it's you know, the coordinators or the

1157
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,920
promoters or the matchmakers to not be somewhere. And I

1158
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,079
was thinking about this just the other day, and I'm

1159
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,480
going to give them a plug because if there's even

1160
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:56,000
one like aspect of the legacy that they left with ESPN,

1161
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,840
because ESPN, if you go on ESPN Plus, they basically

1162
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,119
wipe the entire library, and I'm sure that was contractual,

1163
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,639
so you can't even go back and watch like Dezander's

1164
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:06,559
Eyes fight from a couple of weeks ago. Everything has

1165
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,760
been purged from the library, but there's still a lot

1166
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,760
of the Shoulder program and that remains because that was

1167
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,920
obviously something that ESPN was also the owner of. If

1168
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,000
there's one thing they did do is they did the

1169
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,400
two seasons five episodes each of what's called The Fight

1170
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,320
Life Right, and they both focused on different fighters in

1171
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,039
each episode, and the second season rolled out right at

1172
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,800
the end of their contract, and that whole series all

1173
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,559
ten episodes. It's absolutely spectacular. Why am I saying this.

1174
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,159
I'm saying this because if I am top ranked and

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I'm going to other broadcasters and I'm trying to get

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a deal, and I want to try to and succinctly

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explain what I have to offer you, I show them

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that she too. Now you can watch amazing documentary stuff

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about their people that they can build around, whether it's

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Abdulla Mason and Emiliano Vargas or it's MICHAELA. Mayer. If

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you're involved in Women's Box, they did episodes on you know,

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Jared Anderson. Now he may be diminished, but the episode

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was fantastic. They have Raimi Mungia. I know he's got

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his problems, but again, the way they did that, it

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shows you what they're capable of doing. Keisha Davis, obviously

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who's got some issues, but it's like, it's a perfect

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thing to try to sell your company. And they also

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have an episode like about in a way you know

1189
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from the first season and other fighters that they've worked

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with Tia Fimo Lopez. It's it's it's the perfect way

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to go and sell gotcha and show them what you're doing.

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So that's what they should be doing, sitting in those

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executive suites saying, hey, let's take twenty minutes and watch

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this show.

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Speaker 2: I again close by saying I would be shocked if

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they're not on somewhere October.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I don't have that on any authority. I'm

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not reporting it.

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Speaker 2: There are too many powerful, smart people with a bunch

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of money that have been working on this for them

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to go, like some people are saying hypothetically, they won't

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have a fight card the rest of the year. Who

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are you kidding, Take a take a breath and understand

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something about out the business.

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Speaker 1: They're working on something and let's see and.

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Speaker 3: Here's the other thing about it. By the way, even

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let's just say for the sake of argument, that they

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don't have their own shows between now and the end

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of the year. They're they're under they they know they've

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got fighters under contract that they have to provide for.

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So just last weekend they've got some prospects. They had

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three of their prospects that were put on cards in

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on a card in California, Chop Chop Gonzalez, who's a

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good young young prospect with with Robert Garcia and a

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couple of their other young fighters, and they've they've been

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able to farm out here and there. This Valdez fight

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is another example where they're working with Zandford to do something,

1218
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and there'll be others. They've got fights of course that

1219
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they're done with Turkey. So like when they're Abdullah Mason's

1220
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taking care for his next fight. He's fighting in Saudi Arabia,

1221
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So no one's gonna cry. There's no violins necessary for

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00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:55,480
Bob aram Er top rank. They know what they're doing.

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They're big boys, and I'm sure they're gonna be just fine.

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Speaker 1: All right, busy show here again.

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Speaker 2: The Libbyan fight card is Friday afternoon US time. Peeps

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that Dan was previewing those two fights. We'll talk some

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about that off the weekend. Enjoyed you with Moses Etama

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here on the pod feed. You got a little news

1229
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there as well. Engage on the YouTube page for all

1230
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the content there. At the Terrence Crawford interview that's there.

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I know we had it on the podcast feed as well,

1232
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the Todd Grisham Live show that we did the other night, etc.

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Speaker 1: We'll be doing more stuff on the YouTube page. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hit subscribe on the YouTube page, hit the like button.

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There a lot of you engaging that helps us out

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with that.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend.

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Speaker 2: You and I will talk off the weekend. Homeowner Dan Rayfield,

1239
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thank you as always.

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Speaker 3: You bet my man.

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Speaker 1: There is Dan Rayfield. I'm merely TJ Reeves.

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Speaker 2: Again you've been part of the Big Fight Weekend preview

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podcast