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Speaker 2: I'm doing good and I'm doing good. We're getting into May,

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Victor and I. We're excited. We're excited about the Stanley

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Speaker 4: What do I do with this player? This situation, this pick,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are not the type of people who you

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want to be hitting up on Twitter. Should I trade

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Austin Matthews for Econa McDavid, No, No, don't, And I

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don't know why you have that accent either. We are

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not just going to give you glib answers off the

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top of our head. For us and for the sorts

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of people that people who are listening to a fantasy

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hockey podcast in May are. It's all about the details.

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There's settings, there's nuance, and we'd rather get it right

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than just try to flip it and do it fast.

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We are going to flip to the other side of

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this break and it's hurt like so welcome back to

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the show. Josh Joey of the Athletics slash New York

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Times ready to talk to some Pittsburgh Penguins with us

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how you doing today, Josh great?

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Speaker 5: How are you great?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: Great? We're ready to talk pens and I'm going to

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try to be positive here. There's some negatives to say,

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there's going to be some great positives to say too,

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But I think overall, in terms of the team context,

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they missed the playoffs for the third straight year, lower

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in their division than end year since Sydney Crosby was

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a rookie, The coach has gone, Some contributing veterans have

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moved out, primarily more fringe roster depth players I would

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say have been moved on to moved on from. That's

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a lot of what Pittsburgh had surrounding a future Hall

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of Fame corp coming into this season. Still have it

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above average performing power play at least a middle of

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the road offense, i'd say at this point, but the

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goal prevention not so much. They allowed the fourth most

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shots on goal six worth save percentage that resulted in

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the third most goals against in the league. The top

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ten seven scorers on the team are on the wrong

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side of thirty. So we're going to discuss the players

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who are theoretically going to be back in black and

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gold this fall. But depends watchers see this as a

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full Kyle Dubas reboot time now and can the Pens

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embrace the tank? What do you make of this last season?

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Speaker 7: Josh, Yeah, the Penguins are rebuilding. They don't like to

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call it rebuilding. That's like a nasty word that you

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don't use. The problem is they have so many salaries

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that they can't get rid of. I don't doubt for

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a second that Kyle Dubis would love to try of

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getting Malkin and Crystal Tag and Eric Carlson at this point,

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but the fact is they all have full no move clauses,

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and I know for a fact that Malkin would use it.

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I suspect Letang would. I think Carlson is tradable. I

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think to the right team he would be willing to go.

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But you just have all these logjam of salaries and

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Tristan Jerry and Ryan Graves making way too much money

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and nobody's gonna take those salaries. So I think Kyle

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would have loved to have just completely torn it down

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except for Crosby, but he's been hamstrung in that regard.

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Speaker 5: There's only so much he's been able to do.

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Speaker 7: So Yeah, it is a rebuild, but it might be

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a bit of a methodical rebuild just because of that,

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and they do have a ton of draft choices in

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the first three rounds in the next two or three years.

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That's where the rebuild will come. They're still going to

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have probably an older than the most roster next season, though, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 4: I speaking of some of those old guys. We're gonna

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start with Sidney Crosby, of course, the captain, and another

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ninety point season for Crosby. He's just, what can you

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say at thirty seven, still one of the best players

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in the league. He did this season without Jake Gonsel,

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and so the last two more years on the contract,

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you look at his underlying numbers, elite offensive production, his

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defensive game maybe wasn't as amazing as we were used to.

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but still overall a majorly impactful player. So I think

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we all want to know, is he going to continue

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to be a ninety plus point player at age thirty

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eight or what do we think?

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Speaker 7: I think he probably will put it this way until

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he shows that he signs of slowing, and he will

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at some point, yes, and maybe his Tom Brady.

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Speaker 5: He's going to keep doing this into his forties.

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Speaker 7: Like I don't know when I watched Crosby play, like physically,

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he doesn't look a whole lot different than he ever did.

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it's not much of one, and every other facet of

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the game is still there.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the defensive stuff.

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Speaker 7: I think what happened the Penguins were such of a

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one line team for most of the season, as Crosby

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and Brian Russell, riccard Kel all three we'll get to

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the other two. All three had great seasons, but I

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think that line felt so much pressure to score at

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all times for the Penguins that they probably cheated a

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little bit on the defensive end more than they normally

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would have because Crosby and Roster a good defensive players.

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Raquel's not bad, but those guys cheated some because they

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knew nobody else was going to provide any offense. But

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sid is to me, he's still one of the ten

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best players in the game, and you can rank him

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wherever you want, but he's a marvel at his age

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to be doing what he's doing. I really think he's

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still going to be a point per game player for

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at least a couple of more years.

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Speaker 2: Brian Rust, he put up very nice scoring this year,

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sixty four points in seventy one games, excellent peripheral stats

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like blocks, hits, and shots. He missed some games early

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in the season due to what I believe is a

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knee injury, but he recovered nicely. He was pinned to

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Crosby and Raquel. To your point about that line, the

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Crosby Raquel Rust line was of one of the most

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common lines in the NHL last year, and Rust was

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fourth in minutes on the power play despite missing eleven games,

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so he was out there a lot. The advanced stats

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on defense you talked about how they're cheating a little bit,

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they were not great. The Crosby's line was remarkably outscored

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fifty one point four percent to forty eight point six percent,

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so only forty eight point six percent of the goals

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at five on five came from his side when he

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was on the ice. Fifty one lines in the NHL

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who skated at least two hundred and fifty minutes together,

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this line was dead last in terms of goals against

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per sixty. It was rough when they're out there. Like

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you said, I think it makes sense that if they

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were really pushing on the offensive end, that maybe some

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things didn't go wrong. So anyway, Brian Rust, he talked

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about no move clause. Some of that he The no

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move clause for him disappears next year, and it looks

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like the contract's relative friendly. Do you think Rust could

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be moving in the future. Do you expect his performance

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to remain somewhat similar to what it was this year?

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Speaker 7: Real quick, on the last point that you made about

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that line. Overall, I do have to throw out there

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that the Penguins goaltending was horrendous this season, and that

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top line was on the ice quite a bit. With

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Eric Carlson, who was so bad defensively this season, I

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don't even have words for what I saw from him.

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So I do need to mention that. As for Rust,

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one of my favorite players on the team. He's thirty two,

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I believe now he literally keeps getting better every year.

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Speaker 5: I think just turned thirty three. Maybe he's such of

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a good player.

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Speaker 7: So long as that he's in Pittsburgh, he will be

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on Sidney Crosby's line, because that is Crosby's favorite line mate.

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And after losing Jake Gonsel, they're not going to put

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Brian Ross anywhere else in the lineup. Sid loves playing

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with him, so that gives you, I think, some assurance

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moving forward. I don't think they'll trade Ross this season.

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that no trade clause lifts. I promise you there are

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teams that want him. I know for a fact last

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season the Columbus Blue Jackets called the Penguins and inquired

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about him. Makes sense, right, a talented young team, why

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wouldn't you want a veteran like him who's been a

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big game player. It makes all the sense in the world.

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But when if Gutni Malkin retires after this season, and

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I think he will, Brian Russ is probably going to

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have an a on a sweater and he's the kind

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of guy they just want around young players moving forward.

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So could they trade him? Sure, it's possible if somebody

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really blew them away with an offer, But I think

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ultimately they'd love to keep him moving forward. They think

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the world of him.

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Speaker 2: And we mentioned Ricard Brikel the third element on that.

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He was surprised to me in that he was second

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on the team in points and he was most in goals.

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So Raquel had himself a very nice seasons mentioned with

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crossing most of the time, the seventh most time on

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five minutes of any line in the NHL.

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Speaker 3: They were.

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Speaker 2: Raquel had some positive years as a young player on

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those last versions of the Perry gets locked ducks and

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then some foul periods. Arguably the best stretch of his career, though,

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has come in the last three years, the full ones

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he's had with the Penguin since he got traded over there.

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What do you expect for Ricard Raquel's thirty two year

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old season next year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, He's just a talented hockey player. A guy can

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really shoot the pocket. That's what you notice with him.

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And he's another one. When he came to Pittsburgh, Like

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I said, Crosby loves playing with Rust. There would be

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the occasional game when Crosby would play with Raquel, and

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I know that the analytics were off the charts when

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those two were together. They're really good together, and it

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took the Penguins a while to warm to the idea

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of playing those two together, and then they realized it worked.

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They decided to load up on one line, and the

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beauty of Raquell is he is perfectly comfortable playing on

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the left or right side, and he plays on the

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left wing on that line. A lot of guys say

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they can play the left or the right, but they

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really can't. They could really only play one. Raquel's not

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one of those guys. He gives you that versatility. He'll

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be good again. Is he gonna score thirty four goals

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again or whatever it was? I'm not so sure about that.

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That's probably the peak season for him. If you're expecting

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that again, I would expect twenty five plus for sure. Boy,

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I don't know if he's going to pull that off again.

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And I do think if the Penguins do move somebody

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next season, if they are still in cell mode, which

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is certainly possible, I'm not sure how good they'll be

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next year. Raquel might be a guy who would be

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a candidate. He was available at the trade deadline this

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past March, but or February rather, but only for a

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particular price, and basically you were going to have to

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give up a top tier prospect and a first round

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pick to get him, and maybe something else, which was

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Kyle Dubas's way, I say, and I'm really not trading

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him unless you're going to do something stupid, then I'll

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trade him. But moving forward, is it possible that he

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could go. I think he'd be more likely to go

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than Russ put it that way. So something to keep

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in mind. He'll be good next year. He's a really

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good player. He'll probably play again with Crosby. But if

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someone is to be traded during the season, it wouldn't

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shock me if it were him.

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Speaker 2: If Guinea Malkin, we're getting to him now and and

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you already mentioned this might be his last year coming

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up in terms of where contracts are and things in gosh,

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his advanced stats and his surface stats were slipping a

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bit last year. He rated out someone in the middle

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of the road in terms of advanced stats on the team.

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Even strength defense was not good. Actually, the only guy

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who had a greater negative on even strength defense was

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Brian Rust and Eric Carlson actually tied Malcoln for what

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those stats are worth. Now, he did suffer injuries again

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this past year. In the past, seems like Malcolm's either

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great or he's hurt. Those are the two modes of

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a Guinea malclin this year. He did suffer some injuries again,

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missed a lot of multiple short stretches for ailments. I

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don't know what does one expect from Guinea Malcoln this

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coming year. Is you going to have a David Ortiz

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coded to the career or is this just going downhill

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at this point?

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Speaker 7: I think it's probably going downhill. He'll be thirty nine

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in July. It was funny with this season. There were

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some nights when we'd be sitting there in the press

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box and be like, yeah, he looks like Gino tonight.

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This is like the Gino of old. He kind of

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looks like the way a Hall of Famer's supposed to

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look when he's almost forty. Like you still see flashes

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of it, right, and they'll still put up some OK numbers,

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But he's not the same. He's really lost a step,

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or more than a step. It's Gino in his prime

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would just escape to dangle through everyone through the neutral

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zone and just be a one man breakout. He's not

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that guy anymore. And the biggest thing I see with

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Gino his shot is not what it was. His goal

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scoring has really started to plummet. He used to stand

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in that right wing circle and fire one timers. Doesn't

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really have that shot anymore, and you saw that with

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the goal scoring total starting to drop really the last

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couple of years. Next season, could he put up twenty

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goals and fifty points. Yeah, maybe something like that. But

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if you're expecting a Geno Malkin point per game pacer,

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now he's not that guy. And in fact, they didn't

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even use him on the top power play in the

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second half of the Easton, which we've never seen before

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in Pittsburgh. But quite honestly, the power play was better

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without him. So I could be wrong when I say

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it's his final season, but he's going into the last

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year of his contract, and he doesn't strike me as

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the kind of guy who wants to embarrass himself playing

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in his forties when he can't really play anymore. He's

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in the Hall of Fame, he knows it. He's got

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three rings. I have to think this is probably the

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end for him.

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Speaker 4: It sure look like it to me from what I

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saw from Gino. Yeah, let's move on to some of

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the youth. Maybe some room for optimism here. We're going

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to give you a points pick on between Tommy Novak

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and Ruckham McGroarty. Novak's production took a big step back

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this season from his previous two seasons in Nashville, where

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he was a round a fifty nine point pace. He

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was only at thirty this season, although his expected goals

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for it looked good, he just wasn't converting. Then he

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played two games for Pittsburgh before getting hurt after the trade. McGroarty,

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the top prospect on this team, played his first professional season,

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had an excellent college career eight NHL games this season,

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so it wasn't a whole lot of sample size, had

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a pretty strong year for the Baby Pens, and wilkes

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Berry scran thirty nine points in sixty games. Between these two,

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who do you think is can have a bigger role

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and potentially more points next season.

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Speaker 7: That's actually a great question. I would suggest that Rocker

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McGroarty might have a bigger role in that I bet

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he starts the season on Crosby's left wing, or at

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least he sees a significant amount of time there, and

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you're going to see him in a top penalty killing

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role and probably in the second power play unit. But

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I might pick Novak just for more points. I wouldn't

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be shocked if he slides into the top six at times,

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and if they even move Malkom to the left wing

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on the second line and let Novac play center or

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put Novak on Malkin's left wing, that would not shock me.

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And the thing about Rutger and I really Rocky McGroarty.

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He's going to be a terrific NHL player, and he's

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improved so much since the Penguin's got him a year ago.

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But I don't know if the goal scoring touch is

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quite there at the NHL level, like everything else is there.

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You can see it, but that might be the last

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part of the game to come for him, whereas no fact,

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like he's got talent you could see. I saw it

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in two games before he got hurt. The skill level

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was there. He's a really intriguing guy who just probably

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needed a change of scenery. So oh guess he puts

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up more points even if Burgordy might play in a

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more prominent role.

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Speaker 5: But very good question. I like that one. I could

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go either way.

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Speaker 3: Love it, Yeah, I love the context. Thank you. Another

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guy that's interesting. Billy coiven In.

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Speaker 4: Philly Coivenen led the Wilkesbury Wilkesbury scrand Penguins and points,

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earned a call up and put up points at the

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end of the year. Seven assists in those eight games,

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I had looked really good at times. And fifty six

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points in sixty three games in the AHL is pretty

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amazing production his in his limited sample size in the NHL,

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he looked a little underwater in his expected goals against

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the Penguins as a whole, weren't weren't defensively stout. So

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I'm not sure you can read too much into that.

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What do you think about coaven in next year? What

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kind of role in production might he have?

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Speaker 5: I like him a lot.

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Speaker 7: In fact, if you want to throw him into the

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who has more points McGroarty or Novacker coyn and I

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might pick I was that impressed with him. The Penguins

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are that impressed with him. I would guess you will

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probably see him on the second line to start next season,

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and you're going to see him on the top power play.

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The Penguins out of practice late in the season in

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Dallas and they were tinkering with the power play. They

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just brought coyvan it up and they put him on

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a drill in the power play. Bang Crosby set him

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up for a goal immediately. Next Yearal Crosby set him

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up again for a goal immediately, and I'm watching and

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it was clear to everybody whoa this guy just has

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an incredible feel for the power play. Some guys, I

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don't call him a power play specialist because that suggests

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that he's not good even strength, which I don't think

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is true. But he has a real knack where I

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think playing the bumper on the power play. And you

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might not see him score a ton of goals in

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the NHL level. I think he can be probably a

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twenty goal scorer, probably, but he's a gifted playmaker, Like

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that's the single biggest thing with him, the way he

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sees the ice, the way he can pass the puck.

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He's going to be a twenty goal guy that maybe

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puts up sixty five seventy points just because of the

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way he can pass the puck. So I don't think

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he's going to be a star at the NHL level,

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but I think he's your classic talented middle six winger

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who was really going to help on the power play.

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Speaker 5: So he's he's a really intriguing kid.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 4: I love to hear it, Let's move over to the

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blue line. And I know you said you're at a

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loss for words with Eric Carlson defensive play, but we're

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gonna we're going to try to find some words to

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give this a little context. Despite the improvement of the

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Penguins of power play to six in the league, Carlson

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had two fewer power play points due to reduction in

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his power play time on ice by a minute. He

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again managed to play all eighty two games, but could

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not get anywhere close to the production that he had

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when he was in San Jose back to back mid

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fifty ish point pace seasons in Pittsburgh after the one

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hundred and one point season, I don't think anyone really

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expected him to repeat that, but being pretty far off

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the pace was I'll admit disappointing point of effort and metrics.

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He was third percentile for defense in the league according

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to Evolving Hockey, and ninety fifth percentile for offense. You

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also mentioned you wouldn't be surprised if he decided to

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move or they moved him. Do you think he will

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end the season in Pittsburgh and what do you think

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we can expect from him if he does stick around.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a real chance Kyle Doubis trades him

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this summer. I've talked with people around the league, and

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his cap hit is ten million. It's actually eleven and

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a half million, but the Penguins are handling ten million

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of it. And people around the league have told me,

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if the Penguins are willing to retain maybe two and

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a half million, somebody would take him at a seven

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and a half million dollar cap hit for his final

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two years on his contract.

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Speaker 5: Don't be shocked if that happens. If he does stay

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in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: You still see the brilliance five on five offensively at

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times with him, the way he can see the ice

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in the passes that he makes, like he's just different

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than other players. He's such a genius with the pucket times,

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but he was terrible in the power play. Let's put

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it this way. The Penguins have two future Hall of

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Fame defensemen and Carlson and Crystal Tang, and the power

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play was much better with Mac Grizzlick quarterbacking it, which

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is amazing to me. But it was, I mean, it

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absolutely was. Carlson has never figured out what to do

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on the power play with Crosby, and primarily because he

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won't shoot the puck. He just refuses. Even when he shoots,

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it's a shot pass every single time. Is really easy

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to read on the powerplay. So there's still some brilliance

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there five on five. Offensively, he'll still put up some points.

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But if you're worried about defensive metrics at all or

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defensive play, like when you're getting Eric Carlson, you're not

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getting a shut down defenseman. He was just abysmal. And

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if there were times in the press box he would

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make mistakes. I would turn around and look at Kyle Dubas,

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and Dubas would just have like his hand on his

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forehead like that, you could tell he was thinking, like Eric,

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what the hell are you doing? It's just and maybe

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with a new coach and we don't know who it'll

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be yet, maybe that will help.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I know he added a few of white hairs to

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Mike Sullivan's head.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, So let's talk about Matt Grizzlick. I know

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you was sorely missed in Boston. We interviewed your colleague

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flu Tou Schinzawa a couple of weeks ago, and he

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had good things to say about Boston's opinion of Grizzly

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and how they're missing him. He gave Pittsburgh a solid

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eighty two games of performance at half a point per game.

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He was top five on the team in power play

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time on ice, he was tied for fourth in that metric,

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and again recalling they had a very good power play

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this team. That said, at five on five, the team's

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offensive defense were each slightly worse with him on the

477
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ice than not in terms of advanced metrics. Maybe that's

478
00:22:36,079 --> 00:22:38,799
because of the situations he was deployed in. You'll have

479
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,039
to tell me that. That was surprising me because I

480
00:22:41,039 --> 00:22:44,880
thought he was He was somewhat positive, but definitely I

481
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,319
don't know what to make of Grizzlick's first year and

482
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,039
what will be going forward. What do you expect his

483
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,519
role to be in in what kind of performance you expecting.

484
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,039
Speaker 7: I don't know that'll be back. He's a free agent

485
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,440
and they might bring him back. I thought he was fine.

486
00:22:57,519 --> 00:22:59,640
He was good to the power play really good. And

487
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,559
the thing about Grizzlick when he played with Eric Carlson,

488
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,440
they were actually pretty good together. I felt like they

489
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,000
brought out the best in one another, and for reasons

490
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,640
that I still don't understand, the Penguins in the last

491
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,240
couple of months chose to play Grizzlick with Crystal Tang

492
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,599
bad idea. They were horrible together. Grizlick was not good

493
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:19,559
in his own zone. I wouldn't say he was a

494
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,480
problem to me. He's just an undersized guy. Against certain teams,

495
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,519
he was not a good matchup. And the Penguins were

496
00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:29,519
such of a bad defensive team, and their goaltending was

497
00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:30,559
also so bad.

498
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 5: It's hard to gauge one in the other.

499
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:35,279
Speaker 7: Was the goaltending that bad, or maybe the defense in

500
00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:36,759
front of them was so bad that you have to

501
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:38,960
consider that, or maybe the defense in front of them

502
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,880
really was that bad. Yeah, they were both bad, so

503
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:43,920
it's hard to gauge. So Grizzlick he was okay. He

504
00:23:44,039 --> 00:23:45,960
was better in the offensive zone. He doesn't give you

505
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,279
any goal scoring, but his ability to distribute the puck

506
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240
is really good. And I know the Penguins big guys

507
00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:54,599
up front like being on the ice with him, so

508
00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:56,920
he'll put up some assists. He will be good on

509
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,759
the power play. I didn't realize how good he was

510
00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,400
at but he just makes good, smart decisions with the

511
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,119
puck on the power play. It really worked efficiently with

512
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,000
him on it. Somebody will pick him up if the

513
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,240
Penguins don't bring him back, and they may. I thought

514
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,359
the good outweighed the bad with him in general this season.

515
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: Put it that way, and Sad's at point per game

516
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,359
was probably misstating it. He had thirty nine assists in

517
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,039
one goal, so he was half an assist per game

518
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,480
is what he was. But that speaks to what you

519
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:28,680
say about playmakers. So Chris Latank he played in seventy

520
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,359
four regular season games, and the bag on Chrys Latang

521
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,000
used to be he was he would be injury prone

522
00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:36,960
or whatever. At least that's what I thought there for

523
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,440
a while. But fifth time in six years he's missed

524
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000
under ten games in the season. That's pretty durable at

525
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,039
this point. I say that because I think for whatever

526
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,400
reason there, but the scoring is down thirty points in

527
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,400
those seventy four games, his worst scoring pace since two

528
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:56,160
thousand and twenty ten. Power play tom and has declined

529
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,440
ever since Carlson came in. But that was true last

530
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,200
season two. That wasn't bring new this year. He's got

531
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,519
three years remaining on that contract, which is going to

532
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:08,400
take him past age forty likely not something Kyle Dubas

533
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,240
is going to be looking for. But again, this is

534
00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,759
one of those three Hall of famers left from the

535
00:25:12,759 --> 00:25:16,559
glory days. What is changing in Latang's game in Could

536
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:17,720
he bounce back next year?

537
00:25:18,519 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 5: He could?

538
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 7: But I will say this, this was the first season

539
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,359
in watching Latang that I thought his skating really took

540
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,960
a step backward. And that's what he's always had more

541
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,319
than anything else. Just a marvelous skater, just a powerful,

542
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,519
brilliant skater.

543
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Speaker 5: And he still skates okay.

544
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:37,759
Speaker 7: But you could see when he would go get the

545
00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:39,599
puck behind the net and circle around the net, he

546
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,519
could always pull away from anybody. Doesn't quite do it anymore,

547
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,559
and I don't think he's adapting very well to that.

548
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,839
He's never been a cerebral player. He's just been a

549
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,480
guy who's just more talented than pretty much everybody else.

550
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,799
Don't really feel great about his offensive numbers moving forward.

551
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,039
He was never a great quarterback on the power play.

552
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,039
He was always okay at it, and he happened to

553
00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:02,759
play with Crosby and and Phil Castle's worked fine, But

554
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000
I don't know that his numbers will improve at this point.

555
00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 5: I doubt they will. And also, Chris is health.

556
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 7: You're right, he's been durable, but again, he had surgery

557
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,519
to replace the fill a hole in his heart at

558
00:26:13,559 --> 00:26:15,359
the very end of the season, and that's what caused

559
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,319
the two strokes that he had early in his career.

560
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680
If they say everything's fine, he's going to make a

561
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,920
full recovery, you always worry about that with him. You're

562
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,279
thirty eight years old, you've had two strokes, he had

563
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,200
heart surgery, You've had a career threatening next surgery. You

564
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,599
always wonder if one of these injuries he's going to

565
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,640
hang him up. He's just one of those guys who's

566
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,759
a rinkrat. He loves the game so much he doesn't

567
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,759
want to leave. But I wouldn't be expecting huge numbers

568
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:39,720
for him, And in fact, I think he would be

569
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,720
better served to have a more diminished role. I think

570
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:44,359
if they would cut his ice time a little bit,

571
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,519
he could be more effective. But you don't want him

572
00:26:46,519 --> 00:26:48,680
out there twenty five minutes a night anymore.

573
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: Fifteen to some of the newer players. Owen Pickering is

574
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,839
the next guy we're going to talk about. He had

575
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,559
professional season, didn't put up many points in either the

576
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,920
AHL or NHL, but did pretty well defensively. Looking at

577
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,680
Evolving Hockey, his defensive metrics, his course he against was

578
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000
top seventy fifth percentile, his expected goals against was above average,

579
00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:15,480
not bad for your first taste of NHL action, and

580
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:19,039
he did have thirteen points in forty seven HL games.

581
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:20,039
Speaker 3: I don't know the points.

582
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:21,799
Speaker 4: They're necessarily going to be his thing. But what did

583
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:23,440
you see from Pickering and what do you think we

584
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,880
can expect from him moving forward?

585
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's never going to be a guy who generates

586
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,599
a ton of offense. But what I think he is

587
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,119
and this isn't a knock on him. When it's when

588
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,160
a guy's the first round pick, you always want him

589
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,799
to be a star, right, But I think he's going

590
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,000
to be a solid number four, number five defenseman. And

591
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:40,119
that's okay that I think that's just who he is.

592
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,319
He's a big, tall kid, he's got the long reach.

593
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:44,720
He's going to be a good penalty killer and just

594
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,440
a nice guy to have with an offensive minded partner.

595
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 5: I think he's just one of those guys.

596
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,839
Speaker 7: If you're the Penguins and looking at defenseman, they've had

597
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:53,640
in the past. Like if he would turn out to

598
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,000
be a Marcus Petterson or Brian Dumolin, that would be great.

599
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720
I think that's the hope, but I think that's probably

600
00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:03,000
his There's just not a tremendously high skill level there.

601
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,240
But a great kid, really works hard. He'll be on

602
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:07,559
the team next year. He's absolutely going to be on

603
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:10,359
the opening night roster. Maybe he can be a second

604
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,359
pairing guy. Who knows, maybe he'll be more than that.

605
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,519
I just don't see a whole lot of ability with

606
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:18,440
the puck to make you think that he's going to

607
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,000
be any kind of an offensive driver at all. I

608
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,759
don't think he is, But I just think he projects as,

609
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,200
like I said, a nice number four or five stay

610
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,960
at home defenseman.

611
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: I was even thinking of Paul Martin back in the day.

612
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 5: You would take that he was a pretty darn good

613
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,920
hockey player.

614
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,759
Speaker 3: Played with those offensive defensemen really well.

615
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: Yes he did.

616
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,359
Speaker 3: All right, let's sift over to the goalies. Yes, we

617
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,799
do have to talk about the goalies.

618
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: Goalies ranked twenty sixth overall and expected goals against for

619
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:51,160
sixty according to Involving Hockey, and they conceded the thirtieth

620
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,960
ranked actual goals, So there if you're scoring at home

621
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,559
a little bit worse than expected. The Delkovich and Jari

622
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:00,720
we're carrying the load here. We saw a Novelllkovich played

623
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,960
thirty eight games and had a negative three point seven

624
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:05,720
four goals save above expected, and Jarry had thirty six games,

625
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,279
negative four point six overall. Neither one of them is

626
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,960
super inspiring. You got Jarry on year three of a

627
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,640
five year deal five point three seven five difficult year

628
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,519
for him. He was hurly early in the season, then

629
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,519
later he passed through waivers HL time got called back

630
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:24,279
up forty seven percent quality star rate. Basically a coin flip.

631
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:27,119
What was going to happen there? Nadal Kovich last year

632
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,759
of a two year deal two and a half million.

633
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:31,440
He did split some starts with blum Quist while Jari

634
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:34,680
was injured. Blomquiz certainly seems potentially a goalie of the

635
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,559
future here or they have some other options as well.

636
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,480
What do you think about the goalie situation going forward?

637
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,960
Is their faith in Jari? What are they going to

638
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:42,359
do here?

639
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,599
Speaker 5: It's not good.

640
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 7: They'll trade Jari this summer if anybody wants him. He

641
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,079
got sent to Wilkes Perry twice during the season, which

642
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,799
is all you need to know. To his credit, in

643
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,240
his last stint, which it went for about the last

644
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,839
five weeks of the season or so, he was very good.

645
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:01,279
His same percentage I think was nine ozho three, which

646
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:04,519
behind that defense. I assure you those weren't simple shots

647
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:05,680
from the point he was facing.

648
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:08,079
Speaker 5: He was good. He has talent.

649
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 7: He's been to two All Star Games. The problem with

650
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,039
him is upstairs. It always has been to me. He's

651
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:16,279
the classic guy. If he could get a change of scenery,

652
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,319
he might really thrive somewhere. But I don't think the

653
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:20,519
Penguins have a whole lot of confidence in him anymore.

654
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: Moving forward.

655
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 7: I still think he's most likely to be their netminder

656
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,480
on opening night this season. I think that will be

657
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:28,319
the case. But I can't say he was good and

658
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:31,400
I can't say that they trust him. Nadakovich was really disappointing.

659
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,480
He was good the year before. He was a really

660
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,440
good backup option for them. He had a bad season.

661
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,039
They love him on a personal level, but he did

662
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:42,160
not play well at all. So both goalies really struggled.

663
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,559
Bloomquist is a kid who is going to be an

664
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,720
NHL goalie. I think he's a high floor, low ceiling

665
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,799
NHL future guy, probably more of a backup. But a

666
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,599
name to keep in mind about a year from now

667
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,759
is Sergei Miroshov, who is one of their best prospects.

668
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:01,680
He had a phenomenal season and both at the EHL

669
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,880
level and Wheeling and the HL level with Wilkesbury. In

670
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,640
all likelihood, he'll be the guy in Wilkesbury next season.

671
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:10,240
In the year after that, don't be shocked if the

672
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400
net is his in Pittsburgh. He is an unbelievable athlete.

673
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,839
How he was available in the fourth round a couple

674
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,960
of years ago, I don't know. He is probably the

675
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,480
goalie the future in Pittsburgh though.

676
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: Awesome, man, I'm glad you got there because if you hadn't,

677
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,559
I was going to ask you about Murshaw because that's.

678
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,759
Speaker 3: The sense that I got, was it.

679
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,359
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like you said, Jerry and Nadolkovich, bloom quiz

680
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,279
seems adequate at least for now. But yeah, in terms

681
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:37,480
of upside, if you wanted to pick the next starter

682
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,839
when hopefully the Pengles will be good again maybe in

683
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:42,759
two three years, and it's probably gonna be him. You

684
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:45,519
would endorse that, right, That's what they hope.

685
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 7: And when you watch all the goalies play in training

686
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:50,640
camp and probably you just see his athleticisms a little different.

687
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:53,480
He's still a little raw. I think he just turned

688
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,400
twenty one, but they are hopeful about a year from

689
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,200
now that he will be merge as the guy. He

690
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,839
certainly has the highest ceiling of anyone in the organization,

691
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,480
no question.

692
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: Awesome, Yes, indeed, thank you for this breakdown of the

693
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,480
Pittsburgh Penguins.

694
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: Josh.

695
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: How do people keep up with all the stuff you're

696
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:13,880
doing out there?

697
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 7: That's my pleasure. I feel free to come to the

698
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:19,240
Athletic All the Penguins stuff is on there, and we've

699
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,279
got a coaching search going on that's gonna be wild.

700
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:23,960
I'm on my way to Sweden in a couple of

701
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
days to go to the World Championships for a week

702
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:29,079
to see Marc Andre Fleury play for the final time

703
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,519
with his old friend Sidney.

704
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,559
Speaker 5: Crosby for Team Canada.

705
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 7: Told my bosses, come on, you got to send me

706
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:36,039
I can't pass up writing about that, and luckily they

707
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,720
agreed because they're very good about that kind of thing. So, yeah,

708
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,799
all kinds of coverage that will be coming. And the

709
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:42,960
Penguins aren't always good, but they're never boring. That's what

710
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,039
we always say, so that there will be something to

711
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:45,559
write about.

712
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Man, get you a boss that'll send you to Sweden

713
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,119
if you ask. That's some pretty good stuff.

714
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:55,319
Speaker 5: Send me to Stockholm.

715
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: That is awesome, and nobody would miss your work there

716
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,039
at the New York Times, at the Athletic everybody, we

717
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:05,119
will all be keeping close tabs on that, because you're

718
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,799
the man when it comes to Pittsburgh Penguin coverage. Thanks

719
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,240
so much for coming on today, Josh, and have fun

720
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:10,799
in Sweden.

721
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 5: You got it.

722
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:20,359
Speaker 7: Thanks, guys, will since then, that's good.

723
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:28,359
Speaker 1: Myers past off, Oh my goodness, long with a quick gram.

724
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 2: Now it's your weekly goalie talk. But Kat Silverman, Kat's

725
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,279
instincts back.

726
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:39,039
Speaker 4: Again with Kat's Instincts with Kat Silverman of Ingold Mag,

727
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,359
we're talking Pittsburgh Penguin goalies, and we're gonna talk about

728
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,359
your lung Quist. Even though he did play a fair

729
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,039
number of NHL games this season, but he's twenty three

730
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,480
years old, sixty two hundred and three pounds. Drafted back

731
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,039
in twenty twenty, he split time HL and NHL this

732
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:58,680
past season. He did have some pretty solid numbers with

733
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:02,279
its Baryo Scranch Penguins the last couple of seasons actually,

734
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,759
and he had fifteen games in the NHL this season,

735
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,920
which were not great. The protection he was offered by

736
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,119
the Penguins was not great, but he drastically underperformed that actually,

737
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,440
so that wasn't too great either. At even strength on

738
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,280
the power on the penalty kill, he was actually quite

739
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,760
a bit better, a little bit more structure there, and

740
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,119
looking at hockey prospecting, he actually looks a lot like

741
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:28,360
Kapo Kakanen, who was replacement level not super great, but

742
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,079
maybe he has a little bit more upside than that.

743
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,559
Kat tell us your instincts about blown quists and where

744
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,079
you think his trajectory is going to go from here.

745
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,039
Speaker 8: I thought he looked really good in his AHL games.

746
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,000
I thought he looked reliable.

747
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 3: I thought he did a.

748
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 8: Really good job of staying facing the play. That is

749
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,199
something that when you see some of those slightly more

750
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,559
conservative positioning goaltenders, you can see them turning around to

751
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:59,280
watch the play going from side to side and behind them,

752
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,840
and he does a really good job of staying pretty

753
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000
squared up to the center of the play, preventing some

754
00:35:04,039 --> 00:35:07,519
of those cross ice passes from just absolutely demolishing him.

755
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:13,800
He didn't do super spectacularly with the big Penguins themselves,

756
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,960
the Pittsburgh Penguins, which is a little concerning, But the

757
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,840
Pittsburgh Penguins were not performing the way that we would

758
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,480
expect them to, so I think we can give him

759
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,400
a little bit of grace there. I think he still

760
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:36,519
looks like I would say, probably their best prospect. I

761
00:35:36,599 --> 00:35:40,079
have been a fan of the philosophy that the Penguins

762
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:42,760
have had when it comes to their goaltending coaching and

763
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,280
their goaltending system in the past, but just looking at

764
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,000
the results this year because he underperformed, but Alexandalkovich and

765
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,400
Tristan Jari did not have a great year either, So

766
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,559
it was just a season of sadness for the goaltenders

767
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:58,119
in Pittsburgh in general. So I wonder if something maybe

768
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:01,599
needs to change there because things are going okay in Scranton.

769
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,679
Because I thought that Blomquist's most confident looking games were

770
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,280
in the AHL. He looked like when I saw some

771
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,480
of his games for WBS, I was like, this guy

772
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,280
should not be playing in the AHL. Then I saw

773
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,800
him playing in the NHL and I was like, I mean,

774
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,719
maybe he should be maybe he should be in the AHL,

775
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,599
And then he'd go back down and he'd look like

776
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:26,159
he was playing in the wrong league. So he was

777
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,199
right in between, and I'd love to see him take

778
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,159
that extra little step to get to where he needed

779
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:35,039
to be. I was a little disappointed that he didn't

780
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:39,320
hit Lucas Doshtall Dustin Wolf levels, but not everybody can,

781
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,119
so I think he's not worth writing off yet. But

782
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,519
I do think that Pittsburgh maybe needs to reevaluate what's

783
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:49,159
going on there.

784
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: Indeed, and you were mentioning that Lumquist is probably their

785
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,199
top prospect, and not to disagree with you, but I

786
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,119
think Sergei Murshov would like a word about that.

787
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:02,599
Speaker 3: He's looking pretty good.

788
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,559
Speaker 4: Twenty one year old six two, one hundred and eighty

789
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:08,119
seven pounder twenty twenty two fourth round pick hunderneath theeen overall,

790
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,679
he did split time this season between the ECCHL and

791
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400
the AHL. When he was in the HL, he was

792
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,719
looking pretty darn good there and ended up with a

793
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,719
pretty solid record of twelve and three and really good

794
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,559
save percentage nine thirteen two six four gaa first taste

795
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,280
of North American action. I think it's hard to argue

796
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,559
with the results there. Looking at his hockey prospecting, he's

797
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400
at thirty, he's on that mid thirties percent chance of

798
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,679
being in NHL, or he doesn't have the best comps

799
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,320
in terms of that system. But there's an alex Lyon

800
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,239
comp here that might be reasonable. He certainly had his moments,

801
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,639
and he has looked really good at times, and he's

802
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:54,320
listed here as a replacement level goalie, and so maybe

803
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,800
that's his upside for MRSHEV. But what do your instincts

804
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,519
tell us about Murshav and where do you think he

805
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,760
fits in this pecking order in his trajectory.

806
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 8: It's fun you bring him up that quickly like that,

807
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,639
because he is the reason that I say that Bonquist

808
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:13,559
is probably still their best prospect, and not just outright

809
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:18,840
their best prospect, because I think they looked similarly good

810
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,440
at the AHL level, which could say something about Mirshav

811
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:27,159
being the slightly better goaltender. They're pretty close in age.

812
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Bonquist is a little older. He also had a little

813
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:35,599
more time facing slightly more challenging shots because they did

814
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,559
split the time in the AHL and then each of

815
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,079
them went off to a different league. One went down,

816
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:46,679
one went up. I think they play a really complimentary

817
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,239
style to one another. They don't look identical, which is

818
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:55,000
interesting to see that the Penguins still seemed to be

819
00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:00,559
operating under this Grab a goalie from every style and

820
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:03,559
see what works best with our current team. Because Mirshav

821
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,480
definitely moves a lot more than Blankfist does. Blanquist is

822
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,880
a very positional based goaltender, likes to stay within the

823
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,800
blue paint, doesn't like to move himself around too much.

824
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,519
Mirshov really likes to keep himself fluid and moving, and

825
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:20,800
he looked pretty great. I don't want to discount Blanquist yet,

826
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:27,599
because he didn't underperform the two clear NHL goaltenders in

827
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:31,320
their system by enough for me to worry that he

828
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,199
is nowhere near ready. I think he did a good

829
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,239
job of holding his own behind a bad team. But

830
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:43,840
I do think that between Myrshov and Blankfusts, we're probably

831
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,440
going to figure out which one is the clear number

832
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,599
one within the next probably year.

833
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, for sure, I really like him.

834
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,159
Speaker 4: He's definitely an up and comer, and we'll see how

835
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:57,199
it works out between those two.

836
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,519
Speaker 3: It is good to have I think.

837
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: A little bit varying style the two, so we'll see

838
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,599
how that works for them. I want to ask you

839
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,440
about one more guy, Philip Larson, a little bit on

840
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,880
the older side, twenty six years old, sixty one hundred

841
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,840
ninety four pounds. He was drafted by the Red Wings

842
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,760
back in twenty sixteen. He came over to the AHL

843
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,039
after two excellent seasons in Sweden after kind of being

844
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,800
on loan there and then trying to work his way

845
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,000
back into a contract. But he was also with the

846
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:25,639
Wilkes Bary's Grand Penguins and had pretty great numbers nine

847
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:29,880
ten to s eight percentage to eight FOURJA and throughout

848
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,079
his career in the hockey prospecting model, he was looking

849
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,280
at a really low percentage chance of being a starter,

850
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,880
and as I said, as a bust in their system.

851
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,519
But I'm wondering if maybe he's resurrected his potential a

852
00:40:41,559 --> 00:40:43,440
little bit. What do you think about Philip Larson.

853
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,519
Speaker 8: I didn't love watching him play, and I can't quite

854
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,400
put my finger on why. His reads were just a

855
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,400
little off and wonky at times. Yeah, I don't think

856
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,639
he's a bust. I do think that if it's taken

857
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,840
him this long to get his shot, we might almost

858
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,119
have reached like an Alex Lyon type situation, which is

859
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,599
not a bad thing at all. I do think that

860
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,559
there is nothing wrong with being a thirty year old

861
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,639
NHL rookie, which is probably what would happen if Philip

862
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:22,719
Larsan did end up reaching the NHL full time. But

863
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:30,800
I think that having at least someone who isn't dealing

864
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,239
with that sort of frantic desperation of being a twenty

865
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,320
one to twenty two year old goaltender who is really

866
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,039
just trying to get their shot with a team whose

867
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:43,159
NHL goaltenders are really struggling, and both technically, I think

868
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,320
both slots at the NHL level could be open for

869
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,039
Pittsburgh in the next year or two. Here he didn't

870
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,320
seem to have that same desperation that the other two did,

871
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,840
which isn't a bad thing to have within the system.

872
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

873
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: I thought.

874
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 8: I watched some of his games, I watched some of

875
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:01,280
his clips of his saves, and I couldn't quite put

876
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,000
my finger on what it was that I didn't love

877
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,719
about his game, which might be why he spent so

878
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,000
long not getting his shot in North America after his

879
00:42:09,039 --> 00:42:12,760
first tiny little stint right after Denver. It might just

880
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,440
be that he's got that sort of lethargic, stilent positioning

881
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,079
that just prevents coaches from being enamored with him. But

882
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,119
that might be also what Pittsburgh needs once again, looking

883
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,280
at how all of Pittsburgh's goaltenders play a drastically different

884
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,159
style from one another, I think he fits in with

885
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:33,599
that trifecta really nicely.

886
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

887
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 8: They wrote down a little bit about him, and most

888
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,840
of it was just shrugs. I was like, Yeah, he's

889
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,119
a goalie. He's there.

890
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,639
Speaker 4: That's awesome. I love that evaluation emoji shrug. That's good.

891
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:50,599
So thanks for giving us your instincts on the Pittsburgh

892
00:42:50,639 --> 00:42:54,920
Penguin goalies, Cat, you are welcome.

893
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: Will be back right after this dig the Dynasty Day

894
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,079
or English Nation Victor. This is a system that is

895
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,679
not necessarily turned heads in the past, but there are

896
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,800
reinforcements here and it starts with our no brainer. Who

897
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,000
is it?

898
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 3: No brainer?

899
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 4: Is Rutger McGroarty fourteenth overall pick in twenty twenty two

900
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,679
by the Winnipeg Jets and was part of that trade

901
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,719
that went down, and so he's now part of the

902
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,639
Pittsburgh organization. Left shot center wing. This was his first

903
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:49,000
professional season. Part of the reason he wanted out of

904
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:53,519
Winnipeg was to get a little bit of professional NHL

905
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:55,800
time a little bit sooner, which he was able to do.

906
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,840
He did get eight games with the Penguins, three points overall,

907
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,519
he was His rampam charge shows that he was actually

908
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,480
pretty good defensively. He was able to hold his own

909
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,960
in terms of the expected goals against Coursey against. His

910
00:44:11,039 --> 00:44:14,719
offensive generation wasn't great, but overall it wasn't completely underwater

911
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,519
as you might expect from a new player.

912
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: In the league.

913
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,679
Speaker 4: But they ended up sending him down to the HL

914
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,079
anyways to get a little bit more experience. He ended

915
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,679
up with thirty nine points in sixty games did mcgroty

916
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,480
for the wilkes Bury Scranton Penguins. Not a bad first

917
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,559
professional season for the twenty mostly twenty one year old.

918
00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:34,880
At the end of the season, looking at the FHL

919
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,880
player card to have mcgrody at seven point three to

920
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,239
four thirty four percent chance of being a seven. That's

921
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000
pretty solid. Most of his points scoring is from assists,

922
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:48,559
he does have a seventieth percentile for shooting, fiftieth for hits,

923
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:50,760
and sixtieth for blocks, so overall his.

924
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,119
Speaker 3: Bash is just more average.

925
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: But there is a little bit more broad category coverage

926
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,360
there than there are for some guys who just tend

927
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,519
to shoot more and don't do other things. So overall,

928
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,519
pretty solid first professional season for McGroarty, But let's hear

929
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,159
a little bit more about him from OURFHL scout.

930
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: Rutger McGroarty and our scout James has piped in to

931
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,519
give us a little bit of information about him. Skating

932
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:19,199
a work in progress. Straight line speed is fine, but

933
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,719
the stride remains somewhat awkward. Passing and handling strong puck skills,

934
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,159
makes frequent plays in tight spaces. Good vision allows them

935
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:32,000
to find teammates, especially in the offensive zone. The shooting big,

936
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,360
powerful and accurate shot. His ability to find open eyes,

937
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,679
combined with his quick release, should provide plenty of goals.

938
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:44,159
The IQ high makes smart decisions under pressure, anticipates plays

939
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:48,400
both offensively and defensively, which make up for subpar skating.

940
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,559
The Ford checking is aggressive, uses size and anticipation to

941
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:57,039
pressure opponents and create turnovers. Defense responsible in his own end,

942
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,239
back checks and positions himself well, which leads to breaking

943
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,079
up opposition, passes, the biggest asset, very competitive, good offensive instincts,

944
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,840
the biggest concern skating, and so the top tier outcome here.

945
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,599
He thinks he's just going to be a middle six

946
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,599
player who could get time on special teams. Likely forty

947
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,719
to fifty point score with average Bash just falls in

948
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,760
that area. Stylistic comparable probably somebody who ended up a

949
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,800
little bit higher than that in real life, but stylistically

950
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,519
thinks Tjoshi might be something that Rutger would resemble. And

951
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:35,280
now our NHL ranking poll, our NHL Fantasy Tidy champion

952
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,800
Mason Black put out the poll of Rutger McGroarty versus

953
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,079
Saint Louis throw Now Jimmy Snugger Rud and Jimmy Snuggs

954
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,159
comes out big, seventy percent to thirty percent over Rutger mcgrarty.

955
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:49,559
Speaker 5: Victor.

956
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: Is Snugger Ruod that much better than McGroarty.

957
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 4: The word I would say, yes, I do, it's not

958
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,239
word a lot better. I think both of these guys

959
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,239
are pretty good. They're both US players back at the

960
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,840
NTDP together, so good comparison here. I think Snuggerud just

961
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,760
has a lot more offensive upside, I think is what

962
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,760
it comes down to. He famously went back for a

963
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,440
third season at the University of Minnesota captain them fifty

964
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,480
one points in forty games. He had gone up near

965
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:22,000
that level fifty points in forty games in his first season.

966
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:23,800
Last season he had a step back thirty four points

967
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,159
and thirty nine games, But it was good to see

968
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:30,159
him have a dominant NCAA season as a junior. You

969
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:32,679
would expect that, but then he stepped into the NHL.

970
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,159
Had four points in seven games for Saint Louis while

971
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:36,960
they were on that run to the playoffs, and in

972
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,000
the playoffs he was also pretty good, although I think

973
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,239
that Jim Montgomery had a little bit of an issue

974
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,400
with him sometimes being a little too offensively flamboyant. But

975
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:48,400
what can you say. The kids got skills and he's

976
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,480
trying to show him off. So four points in seven

977
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:54,719
games as they nearly knocked off the number one seed

978
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,719
Winni Big Jets and who made that insane comeback, but

979
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,840
pretty solid playoff performance. I think you gotta love Snuggie

980
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,280
here for the points. I think if you're in more

981
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,079
of a Banger's setup where it really rewards those perferles.

982
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:15,039
You may consider leaning a little bit more towards McGroarty,

983
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,400
but quite frankly, I think you should just stick with

984
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,400
the points up side. For what that you have with,

985
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:22,920
I think you're going to be missing too much in

986
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,039
terms of bash. So I really like Jimmy Snugrud. I

987
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:29,039
think he's got a ton of offense. I think he's

988
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:31,239
gonna fit in with that top six. He's going to

989
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,360
push his way to the top of what's looking like

990
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,119
a really solid Saint Louis team for years to come.

991
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,039
They got a lot of really good young pieces. They

992
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:41,480
got a couple older guys, but they got some really

993
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:45,599
good young pieces, and so I'm definitely taking snuggrud. If

994
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,480
you look at the Pinach League between the two, it

995
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:50,920
definitely leans snugrued. If you're looking at the hockey prospecting

996
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,199
between the two, McGroarty actually finished this last season or

997
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,159
this season with a little bit more of a star

998
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,719
potential thirty one percent. Snugrued nineteen percent. Part of that though,

999
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:05,559
even though his equivalency was higher. The model just doesn't

1000
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:07,679
reward you if you're in the same league and don't

1001
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,840
increase it by just an insane amount, which he did

1002
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,079
increase it, but maybe not by the insane the insanity

1003
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:14,800
that it required.

1004
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,199
Speaker 3: Looking a little.

1005
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: Bit more leaning towards mcgrarty. Looking at McGroarty and some

1006
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,639
other reasonable comps, I think Tamash Hurtle is someone who

1007
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,199
he probably looks a lot alike, but there's definitely a

1008
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,280
little bit more perperal coverage there. The scoring upside I

1009
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,679
think is reasonable. It's not point per game, although I

1010
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,880
think Hurdle could touch that and McGroarty probably could, but

1011
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,920
most likely he's going to be in that sixty five

1012
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,519
to seventy five point range where Hurdle has mostly lived.

1013
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,599
Looking at the top down hockey model, you've got McGroarty

1014
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:48,800
at a fifteen percent chance of being start eighty percent

1015
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,639
chance of being an nhller. So that's pretty decent for

1016
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:57,119
this model and overall solid player, and Pittsburgh definitely needs

1017
00:49:57,159 --> 00:49:59,039
to start leaning on their vets. Although who knows what

1018
00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:02,400
the new team infrastructure, what's going to happen, if they're

1019
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,599
going to bring in some younger players or tear it down.

1020
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,039
I don't think it's going to be interesting to see.

1021
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:09,679
Mcgroty should be part of that though Jesse all Right.

1022
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: Next up, who is our need to know prospect.

1023
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: Need to know is Villy Coiven in twenty twenty one

1024
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,800
fifty first overall pick, six foote hundred and seventywo pounds

1025
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,199
left shot, left wing center, part of the return in

1026
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:22,400
the Jake Getzl trade.

1027
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 3: He led the AHL this past season.

1028
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 4: For the wilkes Bury scrant And Penguins and points and

1029
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,119
finished the year on the top line and top power play.

1030
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,519
Speaker 3: In Pittsburgh, which is pretty solid he has.

1031
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:38,159
Speaker 4: He had eight NHL games, seven assists, fifty six points

1032
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:41,199
and sixty three AHL games, including two assists in the playoffs,

1033
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:45,199
so overall pretty solid season. This was his first real

1034
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,800
taste of consistent AHL action. Last season he was in

1035
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,960
the LIGA, putting up nearly a point per game.

1036
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,679
Speaker 3: This season.

1037
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,039
Speaker 4: Before that he split it between the LEAGUA and the AHL,

1038
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,639
and so this was his first consistent time. Good to

1039
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:59,480
get all that time in one league. Looking at his

1040
00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:03,719
rampam chart, his expected goals against was not great in

1041
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,679
the NHL, even though he did have some decent production.

1042
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,320
It looks to me like the expected numbers weren't really

1043
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,840
aligned with the actual goals for. He even maybe expected

1044
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,760
a little bit more or we should have expected more

1045
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,840
from him. Right now, my rankings is pretty pessimistic on him.

1046
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,599
I have him at a three point five h fifty

1047
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:25,840
percent chance of being a three. That's partly because he's

1048
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,280
a bit on the older side and he's just now

1049
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,239
getting his break in. Although he's going to be twenty

1050
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,760
two this summer, I think there's still time. But he

1051
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,559
just hasn't shown a lot of high end production at

1052
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:39,079
any league. But we have seen a really strong HL

1053
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:42,960
season from him, so maybe it's time to reevaluate. We're

1054
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,280
gonna let our FHL scout help us figure that out.

1055
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:52,679
Speaker 2: Just and on vill Akivenan, here's what James has to say.

1056
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,920
He's a smooth skater, good on his edges, not exactly fast,

1057
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,400
but can navigate tight spaces. Highly skilled with the puck,

1058
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:03,880
creates scoring opportunities with accurate passing and puck handling. The shooting,

1059
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,719
he has a decent shot and can score when given space.

1060
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,320
IQ high. IQ reads the game well, anticipates plays before

1061
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:15,000
they develop for checking. Not so much a physical player,

1062
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
but he uses his smarts to apply pressure and force turnovers.

1063
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,360
Defense needs work defensively, will backcheck and play his position

1064
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,920
though the best asset then definitely play making in hockey

1065
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,880
IQ biggest concern, not the biggest or strongest, so interested

1066
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,679
to see how his game transfers to the NHL again

1067
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,559
puts him down in a Tier three type range forty

1068
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:41,639
plus point player in the right situation with his average bash. Stylistically,

1069
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:43,719
he compares him to Nikolai Eilers, who's a whole lot

1070
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,400
better than that. But maybe in terms of game that's

1071
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,880
where James sees him falling out and Mason Black the

1072
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,679
NHL Rank Kings poll goes out. Gavin Brindley is the

1073
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:56,800
competition for vill A coven In, and round two, the

1074
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,159
Penguins go down again because Brindley wins fifty three to

1075
00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:04,280
forty seven percent. Victor, is that your decision too?

1076
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: Oh? This is so hard.

1077
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,199
Speaker 4: I really want to love Gavin brindle even though he's

1078
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,559
a little guy. But he's so feisty, he so skilled.

1079
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:18,559
He did have his first taste of professional hockey this season,

1080
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,599
which as he was twenty back in October, so a

1081
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:24,960
young twenty year old in a professional league. Seventeen points

1082
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,880
and fifty two games not super great.

1083
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 3: At this point, I think.

1084
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:32,679
Speaker 4: I probably would lead Lean coven in actually because of

1085
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,360
his strong HL production and he doesn't really have the

1086
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,599
size or other limitations. So as much as I like Brinley,

1087
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,719
I'm just not sure that's all going to translate to

1088
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,920
the professional ranks. So I think that's a tough decision,

1089
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,480
but I'm gonna go coaven In here. Looking at the

1090
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:50,840
PNH league between the two, it definitely leads coven In,

1091
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,159
which is at sixty. For Brinley, it's down in the

1092
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:56,920
twenties based on his AHL season. Looking at the hockey

1093
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
prospecting between the two, coven In is at three percent

1094
00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:03,400
or graduated at three percent, Britley at six percent. So

1095
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:06,239
lean's a little big Brindley, but I'm still not sure

1096
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,000
that he can bring that number up to the when

1097
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:12,000
he's in the NHL. Looking at some other comps for

1098
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:16,079
coiven In, I think Radim Verbada is probably a decent one.

1099
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:18,960
He's more of an average producer, definitely had some seasons

1100
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,719
where he's a little bit more relevant than others, and

1101
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,400
I think coaven In could be that in the right

1102
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,719
deployment in situation. Looking at the top down hockey model,

1103
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:29,719
you have coven In at ten percent chance of being

1104
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,880
a star and seventy nine percent chance of being in

1105
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,719
NHL or so pretty optimistic in terms of the NHL.

1106
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:40,079
Speaker 3: A probability there. But that's it for Billy coven in Jesse.

1107
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: And they keep your eye on prospect whose name I

1108
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,039
am very glad to have. You have to say out loud.

1109
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,679
Speaker 3: First, Oh, come on, MLP and the EMI is not

1110
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,719
that hard. Come on, man, I think we all get

1111
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,800
joy out of hearing you pronounce these names. Jesse.

1112
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: I hope it's yeah. I'm here to spark joy, not

1113
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:04,800
convince you of ignorance.

1114
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 3: But you do both so great.

1115
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 5: You win me.

1116
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: You wounded me, Victor. Let's hear about to keep your

1117
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,360
eye on prospect.

1118
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 4: So will pe a Emmy twenty twenty three to ninety

1119
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,719
first overall pick six and seventy six shot seventy six

1120
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,639
pounds left shot d This season was his first coming

1121
00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:32,400
over from the LIGA, where he had six points and

1122
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,679
thirty eight games last season, and he popped off sixty

1123
00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:38,719
points in sixty games for the Kingston Frontnecks of the OHL.

1124
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,840
I know our good buddy Pete Harlang mentioned him back

1125
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,519
in our days when we were drafting for the World

1126
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,840
Junior Championship, and I really hadn't heard too much of

1127
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,800
this guy, and wow, he really turned some heads there.

1128
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,840
He ended up with three points in six games and

1129
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,079
looked really solid doing it as the Finns had a

1130
00:55:57,079 --> 00:56:01,559
really strong showing. And yeah, overall the OHL looking at

1131
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:05,360
Mitch Brown's tracking data fifty seven overall, fifty five transition,

1132
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,840
forty nine for defense, so it doesn't have the biggest

1133
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,920
offensive numbers, but was able to put up some pretty

1134
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,360
decent points point per game. His defense just about average too.

1135
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,199
In terms of his exits were good, some of his

1136
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,760
entries were good, but some of his transition data not great.

1137
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,800
His course he against wasn't great, but he does do

1138
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,159
some things really well. He does create some advantages. He

1139
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:28,239
does have some good boards battle, the physicality, the passing,

1140
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,800
the shooting's all pretty good. Some of the puck handling

1141
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,119
not so good. And so yeah, just a little bit

1142
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:38,079
of concerns maybe with some translatability, but overall really solid prospect.

1143
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,360
Tell us a little bit more from our HL scout, Jesse.

1144
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,199
Speaker 2: James says of n penn Niemi that he's a strong,

1145
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,559
smooth skater, solid gap control, good transitions, moves the puck

1146
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:54,400
efficiently and makes smart simple plays good facilitator, especially in transition.

1147
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,639
He has a heavy shot, he gets to the goal,

1148
00:56:57,039 --> 00:57:01,280
creates rebounds and scoring chances of hockey. IQ seems to

1149
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,440
keep composure under pressure and makes the correct decisions under stress.

1150
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,000
Defense Strong uses his size and IQ to disrupt plays

1151
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:12,800
strong around his own goal too, rarely caught out a

1152
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,440
position the best asset then the defensive awareness and breakout passing.

1153
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:21,960
The biggest concern the ceiling. Probably limited offensively in the

1154
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:25,119
National Hockey League. So a tier three player twenty to

1155
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:31,159
thirty point player with average bash stylistic comparable Jonas Brodean.

1156
00:57:31,639 --> 00:57:34,360
So James not that enthused here. Let's see what the

1157
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,679
people have to say. Mason Black, the NHL rankking goes

1158
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,440
a meal Piani Nami versus Cameron Allen, and finally the

1159
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,440
Pens get a win because Cam Allen goes down Pianni

1160
00:57:45,519 --> 00:57:49,440
namy of sixty four to thirty six percent. What do

1161
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,039
you say, Victor?

1162
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,079
Speaker 4: Oh definitely, and I loved hearing you say it, so

1163
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,079
thank you.

1164
00:57:58,119 --> 00:57:59,039
Speaker 2: What's that close?

1165
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,079
Speaker 3: What's like? Yeah?

1166
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, if nothing else, you can mimic how other people

1167
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:07,000
say it. So that's yeah, Yeah, That's all I'm trying

1168
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:07,239
to do.

1169
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 5: Here.

1170
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:09,199
Speaker 2: That's I'm hanging on for dear life.

1171
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I definitely would take pnemy here Cam Allen.

1172
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,239
Speaker 3: Man.

1173
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,519
Speaker 4: It's so interesting because I remember back in that twenty

1174
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:21,159
twenty three draft we were talking about early in the

1175
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:24,239
season talking about Cam Allen and how he's this right

1176
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,559
shot defenseman. He's got all the physical tools, two way,

1177
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:31,599
looks really solid, probably has more offense, and it just

1178
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,199
never happened with him. He ended up that season with

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twenty five points in sixty two games, then he had

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a little bit of an injury riddled season the following

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year nine points and twenty five games, and this season

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he's also been.

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Speaker 3: Under a point per game.

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Speaker 4: And you would think as a now twenty year old

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that he would be able to be a little bit

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more dominant, but it just hasn't really happened. He ended

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up falling all the way to the fifth round of

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the Capitals, and so this kinded up looking like a

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really smart pick for the Capitals as they've been drafting

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really well lately. So I'm not riding off Cam Allen

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by any means, but I would definitely take MLP and

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EM here. I think he's got a little bit more upside.

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Speaker 3: I think he's shown a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit more at the level that he's been at,

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and I'm a little bit more confident in his ability

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to translate that at least to fantasy, So I'm definitely

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taking him so far. The Hockey Prospect team between the

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two is pretty pessimistic on both P Andmy just one

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percent chance of being a star, Cam Allen three percent,

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both under forty percent or forty percent or under as

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NHLer probability.

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Speaker 3: Looking at P and em me.

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Speaker 4: In terms of his other comps, there aren't really a

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whole lot of good ones. Ron Hainsey is probably the

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best one, which looks like an average producer. He definitely

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wasn't Nhller, but wasn't super exciting in terms of fantasy,

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and the pnhile between the two is pretty similar with

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a slight not to P andm ME, but his trajectory

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is upward trending, whereas Cam Allens looked like a bit

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of a U and so that's not as exciting. The

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top down hockey model with j Fresh zero percent chance

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of being a star, one percent chance of being an

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NHL Air five hundred and nineteenth in the data set

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is pretty awful. It doesn't have a whole lot of

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optimism there, so it seems unlikely to be a star,

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but you never know. And sometimes these guys that come

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from the finished league, as we heard in the past,

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that there really isn't a whole lot of scoring. There

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can be wide variability in terms of the data. When

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you just have a few points one way or the

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other can really skew the data. So maybe there's still

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more to come here. We'll have to see. Pittsburgh could

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certainly use it. And that's it for this dig. If

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you're a patron, you can listen to my top ten

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prospect recap that we'll start after the draft, and if

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you're doing any scouting, you can shoot me a DM

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on Twitter, discord, or email us.

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Speaker 2: We will be right back to both of.

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Speaker 6: Hey, everybody appreciates everybody listening to this yere episode. And

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I I would recommend that if you're into fantasy hockey,

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you go to fantracks dot com if you haven't already.

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They got the most settings, they got the most options.

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You want to score with Fenwick like we do, sometimes

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you can do it. You want to use penalty minutes,

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you want to use penalty minutes that are just minor penalties.

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You want to have them count negatively instead of positively.

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Speaker 2: Everything that you could want in terms of scoring is

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probably there, and they've been known to add categories if

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people ask them very politely sometimes. And you can also

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get articles and different content over there. Fhl's's team, and

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I never want to neglect the folks who help us out.

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The commissioner team of Tim, Simon, Ryan and Crafts are

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prepping' are tidy legs. They're already hard at work. They're

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like the keepler elves in the tree getting next year's

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tidy leagues together and starting to look at that. If

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you were in the tidy league last year, I bet

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you those already reaching out to you saying you're coming back.

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You sure you're coming back, because we want to get

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things set up here. Tony is our lead scout, and

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you heard our scouting reports on this episode of many

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others and Tony, thank goodness for him trying to get

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guys in line, guys and gals scouting different hockey prospects

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and giving the reports so that we can present them

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here in the Dynasty Dig. Mike, Steven and Matt help

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with the show prep for these episodes. They're doing great

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work in terms of getting the you know, some of

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the basic stats, pulled some of the fleshing out of

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these episodes to really take a little bit of the

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burden off Victor and I to get all thirty two

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of these out. Brandon helps with the website, prospect ranks

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and visualizations, and we thank him for all of that.

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If you've got skills you'd like to lend the show,

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we'd love to have you on the team. Victor would

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love to hear from me on the discord, on email

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or on social media. We also are brought to you

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by the Dauber Hockey and Dauber Prospects family. Victor is

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an editor for DAB prospect and you can see some

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of his work over there. I do a solo show

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called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk about four different dynasty

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sports there, basketball, baseball, football, and hockey. Sometimes I do

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crossover episodes that help hockey players just like they do others.

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You might find yourself a recent episode that has to

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do with the history of fantasy sports, which touches on hockey,

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but hockey is actually one of the oldest fantasy sports.

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But a little bit of an interview with an author

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who primarily is baseball and football related, But fantasy is

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fantasy as far as I'm concerned. Social media, follow on

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Victor's scouting reports that go in there once in a

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while with.

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Speaker 3: Some nice video.

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We thank you for listening to this year episode, this preview,

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and until next time, keep living that fantasy hockey like