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Speaker 3: The Quarterback Scientists are three DQB. We got John Beck
on the line. John, how's your weekend?
Speaker 4: That was a good one man.
Speaker 5: Uh, you've got a playoff win.
Speaker 4: For the high school team.
Speaker 5: So that was fun. You know, my son's having the
opportunity to be the quarterback right now, so that's exciting
as a parent who's been you know, coaching him up
all the way through. So that's been fun. Other than that,
a lot of just you know, following college football, watching
the Coogs, watching some NFL games.
Speaker 1: So are you o seeing for the high school team
as well?
Speaker 4: No, I just help out with the game plan.
Speaker 5: I'm a quarterback coach, but the coordinator that's there.
Speaker 4: He and I have worked together a few for a
few years here at San Clementy, so it's been good.
Speaker 5: We kind of have a very good relationship helping out
suggesting plays.
Speaker 4: Dennis is involved in that as well, Pitta. Dennis helps
out as the tight.
Speaker 5: End coach, so we have a very similar role in
terms of being a position coach, but helping out a
lot with the game planning and in practice structuring some
of the plays that we kind of input.
Speaker 4: So it's been good. It's been a fun little run
so far for our team this year.
Speaker 5: We're going to be in the second round of playoffs
semi finals this weekend, so it'll be a big game
for us.
Speaker 3: Has there ever been a moment this year? A game
this year? What's your game plan? Offensive game plan that
you had scouted that you had pre planned for the
thought it would work. It didn't work so well against
a pretty gosh day good defense.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like that always happens in football.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's why coaches that have a lot
of experience, that have experienced those situations before, they can.
Speaker 4: Come to find answers. You know, That's where it helps.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of the times banking too much
on well, here's what I've learned as a player, also
not just a coach, because I had experience as a
player where you might see what you feel is going
to be so good on tape, but you always have
to account for what they are going to plan for
you because you're studying tape, watching what they do against
other opponents, But what are they going to do against you?
What wrinkles are they going to throw at your team?
When they watch your team on tape? What do they say,
here is how we're going to prepare for that.
Speaker 4: And I feel like that.
Speaker 5: Is where sometimes you have to be so careful of
trying to build a perfect plan for what you see
on tape because you just don't know what wrinkles they're
going to do and what plann they're going to have,
So you have to have a game plan that can
expand you have to have a game plan that is
wider than just what you see on tape, but also
That's why I love the whole John Wooden. We're going
to focus on us and we're going to make sure
that what we do we do well, and then they
have to stop what we do well. It's not always
a just about what well, let's do what the defense
is going to.
Speaker 4: Allow us to do that? Right there?
Speaker 5: Just sound like Norm Chow from Greatest Moments and Billie
Football History.
Speaker 4: But I did it without a Hawaiian accent though.
Speaker 5: But you know, you also just have to go into
it and say, okay, but what do we do really well?
Speaker 4: What offensively can we do better than their defense?
Speaker 5: And so that's why game planning is such a tricky thing,
especially against really good football teams. The hardest teams to
gain plan for are the teams that are very talented defensively,
because it still comes down to who you have versus
who they have. You can have a great scheme and
an idea, and you can have all of these things
that you believe will work, but.
Speaker 4: The the game comes down to man versus man.
Speaker 5: These players against those players, and it is really tough
when you play against really good football teams.
Speaker 3: Let's transition then, BYU's offensive game plan didn't work, so
well against Texas Techs defense.
Speaker 1: That is an elite defense.
Speaker 3: A defense that doesn't give give up a lot of yards,
doesn't give up a lot of points, and they're always taking
the ball away. What happened in this game offense Billies
offense versus Texas Tech defense, Well.
Speaker 5: I think you nailed it in terms of just how
good Texas Tech is.
Speaker 4: That's the best football.
Speaker 5: Team defensively that we played this year or that by
Us played this year.
Speaker 4: I think it.
Speaker 5: Showed in the amount of times that Bear was being
pressured in the way that they kept the run game
to a minimum, both LJ and Bear. I'm sure that
was Buyu's lowest rushing output of the season.
Speaker 4: The number of.
Speaker 5: Times that balls were being thrown to a receiver and
immediately is getting either hits, has somebody on him. It
was just a really good did like team that that
Buyu was playing against. I think that the scheme and
game plan that they had worked well against what Buyu
was trying to do. And I don't think that's a
knock to Byu. You look at some of the stuff
that Bou did in the game, it's stuff that Buyu
has had success with. You look at some of the scheme,
things that they did that were different from what we've
seen this year. They absolutely went into this game with
some wrinkles that I'm sure was stuff that they felt
like Texas Tech hadn't seen, or that was building off
of something else. In the run game, they were doing
the same thing. It wasn't just BYU going up there
and saying like, well, it's worked all year, let's just
do it again. That was not what they did. It
was just Texas Tech played some really good football. And
I know that there's a number of plays that, you know,
Bear's going to watch on tape and he's going to say, hey,
maybe I could have done this, or I you know,
I could have put the ball there, you know, And
and Aaron's going to go back on tape and he's
going to learn a lot from it. I think the
way that BYU needs to interpret this game is we played.
Speaker 4: Against the best opponent we've played all year. We are
going to learn a lot from this game, and if
we can have an opportunity to play these guys again.
Speaker 5: That experience of playing them is going to better prepare
us to have an opportunity to beat them if we
match up with them.
Speaker 4: Again, that's the way they need to look at it.
Speaker 3: The only silver lining in all this from an offense
Ba's offense versus BUS or Texas Techs defense is that
I think BYU played Texas Tech the best out of
all the teams that have played in loving and they
only lost by twenty two points. Right everybody else? I
think Kansas I think Kansas State lost what by twenty five?
Oklahoma State forty two, Oregon State thirty one. So I
guess that's the only silver line, whatever silver linings are
there in this game.
Speaker 5: I mean, like I just said, if I'm the coordinator,
if I'm on the football.
Speaker 4: Team, yeah, it sucks because you have to.
Speaker 5: Deal with the feeling of wanting an undefeated season.
Speaker 4: You have to deal with, you.
Speaker 5: Know, feeling like a top ranked team that now has
dropped a little bit. The entire year, you've been climbing
the rankings, and that's a fun feeling to be.
Speaker 4: Able to have.
Speaker 5: And so you know, you're walking in the building Monday morning,
you're sitting down in meetings and you're having to go
through and look at all of the things that didn't work.
You're having to look at not scoring points until the
fourth quarter, you're having to look at all of these
things that for the first time this year BYU is
having to swallow that tough.
Speaker 4: Pill after a loss. But you have to look at
it as now we know our opponent that much better.
Going back to what I said at the beginning of
the interview.
Speaker 5: About game planning, about trying to structure things based off
of what you see them do against other teams, Well,
how are they going to play you? Well, now you
have a great idea of that. Now you have an
idea to compare and contrast and say, well, here's how
they stopped these other teams, here's what we anticipated, and
now look, they're gonna still do.
Speaker 4: What they do best.
Speaker 5: I guarantee so much of what they did on Saturday is.
Speaker 4: What they have done best against other teams as well.
Speaker 5: But there's also going to be some things and usually
that isn't necessarily scheme, but it's in situational meaning, like
what of their scheme do they draw up in certain
scenarios because of what they anticipate.
Speaker 4: BYU using, Well, now you see that a little bit better.
Speaker 5: You know, it's a little bit of that games than
ship I think of why we love like in the
NBA and in Major League Baseball, they don't play these
one game championships.
Speaker 4: They play these five games, seven game, these multiple game championships.
Speaker 5: Because now it's this chess match throughout all the games
of you are getting to know your opponents. So well,
that's what I believe the next opportunity can be. You know,
it's always said in sports it's difficult to beat a team.
I think if these two teams match up again in
the Big Twelve Championship, I think I would be very
exciting because of them having played each other before in Uyu,
gaining a greater understanding of Texas Tech and who they
are and how they played Uyu.
Speaker 3: The Texas Tech defense team speed was on display. Beart
Bockmeyer couldn't get past the line of scrimmage without getting hit.
Speaker 1: They were surefooted on their turf.
Speaker 3: When when Bear has you know, really showcased well, he
showcased his running ability at home on on natural grass.
Watching the Utah game specifically, Utah really didn't have sure
footing at all. They were going to slip in and
they just didn't look as athletic as this Texas Tech
defense did. So there's a number of components there that
I was kind of digesting. And then the other component
of Boy's offense that has been effective has been their
play action, their intermediate throw game off of play action,
and that didn't seem people working because Texas Tech had
a four man rush and they could collapse the pocket
and drop seven every single play. What did you see
that was so effective from that defensive unit of Texas Tech.
Speaker 5: Well, I think they were really good tacklers, you know,
going to that first little part you talked about about.
Speaker 4: Playing on turf grass, Like.
Speaker 5: I just think as I looked at some of Bears
and Lj's runs against other opponents, whether we say it's
their ability to make people miss and run through tackles
or the defense's inability to tackle those guys.
Speaker 4: You know, I think of some.
Speaker 5: Of bears spectacular runs in the Utah game where he
was very nimble footed, like, there were a lot of
miss tackles, and whether it's because he's two thirty and
quick footed like, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4: If you're a defensive coach, you're pulling your hair out,
throwing your.
Speaker 5: Headset because of the number of tackles that were missed
on those plays. Is not what Texas Tech was doing
on Saturday. Texas Tech, I feel like was very good
tacklers making contact, key, keeping their hands on wrapping up.
Speaker 4: You look at the interior alignment.
Speaker 5: How many times that they made bear move cut back
and then somebody was there to make a tackle. Not
a lot of mistackles from that Texas Tech defense. In
terms of the play action passing game, like a lot
of the times, it's those man's schemes that allow you
to play type coverage with the outside receivers and then
use zone drop interior guys, and so what it does
is if you don't winning the man coverages downfield, it
forces the quarterback into throwing checkdowns and then those zone
defenders are going to rally to the checkdowns.
Speaker 4: So BYU did have a.
Speaker 5: Few max protection, a few fakes off of their like
counter game and that you know, they hit Chase on
a really nice little like drift incut. I believe in
the second quarter of the game they had a few,
but it wasn't as much as they we've seen in
the past, And I think a lot of that goes
to when you max protect, you know, you you limit
the number of people that are getting downfield when you
have a hard time is when the team is able
to play a shell coverage zone wise defensively because you're
not able to run the football well, and then now
you're sending only three receivers downfield versus like a dropping seven.
That wasn't necessarily the case every time against Texas Tech.
There were a few times that we had some play
action passes and into the sideline. YU was running a
flood concept, but because of the trap corners and the
coverage that Texas Tech was playing, they had numbers. And
then the man schemes, like if you go to like
the NFL and some of these schemes that teams are
trying to run, whether you are trying to decipher was
it an RPO or was it.
Speaker 4: A design play action pass?
Speaker 5: A lot of the times playing a man's scheme on
the edges with zone droppers.
Speaker 4: Underneath are what limits that.
Speaker 5: And I saw that from Texas Tech, like they were
able to play very good man coverage out on the
edges zone droppers underneath, and you have somebody running right
on the back of the receiver, plus at times an
underneath zone guy, and so there's not a lane even
if your man guy is beating him by a step,
there's still the potential that you may not have the
lane to throw it in because the zone dropper and
they forced you to drop the ball off to check
it down. And that's why you saw a number of
throws checked down out in the flats to the tight
end and the running backs and then Texas Texas rallied
to make a tackle.
Speaker 1: In those situations.
Speaker 3: Is it best to utilize certain personnel that's a little
bit better at winning one on ones in open space
on those checkdowns. I know you had a couple of
really good football players you were able to check down
the ball too, that could win an open space after
the checks with it. With checkdowns. Curtis Brown was really
good at that. I remember that TCU game six. You
dumped it down for like a four It was like
a third and long, and you dumped it down for
like a four yard completion and Curtis took it up
field versus a very good top twenty five TCU defense
and picked up the first down. I almost wonder if
personnel wise, you can you begin to kind of activate
like a Jovasa Davuni or even a press and wrection
those situations when you know you're gonna have to check
down because nothing's going to be downfield.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And you know, here's the thing about checkdowns that there
are times that you line up and you see the
coverage and in your head, you know the probability of
getting a ball downfield is going to be limited, and
so you know the chances are it's going to go
to the checkdown.
Speaker 4: There are other times with you.
Speaker 5: Believe that you're gonna have a great opportunity to get
the ball downfield and you have to then take the
checkdown because it doesn't give it to you. But you
weren't anticipating that. In both of those scenarios. You never anticipate, Oh,
I'm choosing this because I think it's going to be
a great chance to pick up the third and thirteen.
Speaker 4: Like when I threw that ball to Curtis I and T.
Speaker 5: I wasn't thinking, oh, man, this is going to be
a great opportunity to get this third and thirteen right here,
because he's going to make all these people miss. It
just comes down to that player making a play. The
same reason why we love an LJ. Martin running through
tackles in the run game, he has that same ability
in the past game catching the ball out there.
Speaker 4: Just the truth is, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
It's like screen game.
Speaker 5: We watch these highlights and all of a sudden, you
throw a team goes a little screen and.
Speaker 4: It goes for sixty for a touchdown.
Speaker 5: I guarantee when the coach dialed up that screen, he
wasn't thinking sixty. He was thinking six to eight maybe,
But it goes for sixty.
Speaker 4: So you don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's personnel, Like you don't want
to change personnel just because you say, well, we need
one of those checkdowns to be able.
Speaker 4: To get more yards.
Speaker 5: Like that checkdown isn't made to get tons of yards.
That checkdown is made to be a checkdown to pick
up whatever you can and potentially put yourself if it's
on a third down, give us enough yards so that
maybe we can now go for it on fourth down.
I do think later in the game you saw them
take a few chances downfield, like Chase almost had an
amazing catch on a downfill ball down the right sideline.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just have to do that.
Speaker 5: When teams are playing good man coverage, you have to
take your chances.
Speaker 4: You've got to take your shots.
Speaker 5: Some games it works. Some games it doesn't. This was
a game that it just it didn't work, you know.
And there's a few plays like I think it was
who had the one drop away? Was it Jojo had
to drop on a scramble at Bear made?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Who knows what happens that's beyond the sticks right there,
that's the first down, Like, you never know what could.
Speaker 4: Happen on a few plays here there.
Speaker 5: I just know overall, when you watch the tape, when
you watch what TCU, I mean, sorry, what Texas Tech
did the BYU. They put the most pressure on Bear
that he's had. They limited Bear's ability to take off
and escape and run more than anybody else has.
Speaker 4: They limited Yu's base running game, like so.
Speaker 5: Much of what Uiu's been able to do has been
built off of that run game.
Speaker 4: And that just wasn't what was going on with this game.
Speaker 5: And you look at the what was it two weeks
ago when BYU was down a little bit against Iowa State,
they made some really really key plays, some big time
scramble plays. They had a defensive turnover, they had a
special teams turnover that gave them the opportunity to rally
back you know, those type of plays weren't happening in
this game, Like Texas Tech controlled a lot of the things.
And that's just that's just the way that it shakes
down at whatever level, and like any level of football,
when when you're under that much dress, when they're playing
that well at coverage, when and it's just that's football
and that's what it looks like.
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focus on TCU, right, they got to move on. They
get TCU at home, they have to go on the
road versus Sincy, and then they welcome UCF at home.
What's the messaging to this BYU football team heading into
this next matchup with the horn Frogs.
Speaker 5: Well, you got to make a decision of these are
the things that happened, and then you got to move on.
What you can't do as a football team is you
and this is a coaching staff as well, is you
can't sit there and wonder what if you can't sit
there and feel bad about Man, now we're not going
to be able to have the undefeated season. Like you
can't sit there and replay plays, like all of that
just needs to end. But like you have to already
be moved on from that game. You have to turn
the page because the reality is you still have everything
that you wanted within your control as long as you
take care of business, and TCU is going to come
in very, very hungry.
Speaker 4: So all of those things from this game where you might.
Speaker 5: As a player sit in the locker room and look
at your teammate be like, man, we just did not
see that coming.
Speaker 4: You can't have that happen.
Speaker 5: Everything about that Texas Tech game needs to be learned,
moved on from.
Speaker 4: Know what you're going to do going.
Speaker 5: Forward, and have that be the focus because there are
too many important games in the next three weeks to
have any thought about what could have happened, what we
thought was going to happen, or what this means.
Speaker 4: Now those can't be in your head. You just got
to wipe them all clean.
Speaker 5: I love the phrase no rearview mirrors like, if you
start feeling like you got some rearview mirrors up and
you're looking in the past of that game, you got
to tear those things down and you just got to
be focused on the task at hand.
Speaker 4: Because I promise that this is TCU team coming in.
They've had some bumps along the way.
Speaker 5: They've had some games that they sputtered a little bit
here or there, but I have seen them when they
played good. They have the potential to be a really
good football team.
Speaker 3: John Beck here on ESPN The Fan, John, a couple
of last things before we let you go regarding Bear.
Speaker 1: What can Bear take.
Speaker 3: Away from this Texas Tech game and what does he
need to work on in these final three games in
order to maybe maximize his abilities and put himself in
the best position to make plays for his team.
Speaker 5: Yeah. You know, he's had an outstanding year as a
true freshman, and it's been great to.
Speaker 4: See the success that he's had.
Speaker 5: I think for Bear, so much of this is going
to be about understanding the feeling of the experience.
Speaker 4: You know, this was a huge experience for a young man.
Speaker 5: At his age, at his level of experience to be
the you know, a huge national game.
Speaker 4: Two top ten teams in their place, Like.
Speaker 5: That is an environment right there that is tough on
on anybody.
Speaker 4: That's tough on a seasoned college quarterback.
Speaker 5: And so for Bear having that only be I believe,
was it his ninth game of the year, Is that
correct night and yeah, yeah, ninth game, Like.
Speaker 4: He just needs to take from that.
Speaker 5: Everything from that is a learning experience, whether it was
a positive play, a negative play, the feelings that he
experienced during the game. You know, there were a few
times that he might have felt a little out of sorts,
a little out.
Speaker 4: Like just a little off. You're gonna have that happen
as a quarterback.
Speaker 5: You're going to have that happen, even if you're a
season's quarterback at times, like you watch NFL games and
you can see the best of the best sometimes.
Speaker 4: Still experience that.
Speaker 5: So he just needs to take all of that and
understand the feeling that he's experiencing now on this level,
and he needs to just put all of that in
a place that he can use that for his benefit
later on.
Speaker 4: He now knows what it feels.
Speaker 5: Like to play against the top five defense in the
country on the road at their place. He now knows
what it feels like to be down, you know, and
have some things not working in a game at times
when you're very used to things working. That's a different
experience when you're trying, trying, trying, and it's just not working,
not working, not working.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, now you know what it feels like. You know.
Speaker 5: Now you know how to be calm in those circumstances.
There's gonna be other big, big games. We all hope
that BYU wins out and that things play out in
a way that they're playing in the Big twelve Championship
and there's a high probability that they're back against a
saying Texas Tech team. Well, guess what, I'm pretty sure
that's going to be at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.
So there's going to be even more Texas Tech fans
screaming at that place.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a crazy environment.
Speaker 5: All of these things that he's experienced have been great
to help him be better prepared for that next experience.
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