Speaker 1: It's a nice eye. I'm going mazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Madison. What a difference a day makes about
Speaker 2: this time last night, everybody was feeling pretty good about
Speaker 2: the Celtics. They were headed halftime and they looked like
Speaker 2: they were on their way to evening up the series,
Speaker 2: and things all change. Best of luck, thoughts and prayers
Speaker 2: for Jason Tatum tonight. Hopefully he can get back on
Speaker 2: the court at some point next year. That's really what
Speaker 2: it comes down to. He certainly won't be ready for
Speaker 2: training camp down. Achilles injury is a tough one. My
Speaker 2: name is Dan Ray. A lot has happened in the
Speaker 2: last twenty four hours. And as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: we have a new producer. His name is Rob Brooks. Rob,
Speaker 2: welcome back, how are you? Very? Rarely is Rob ever
Speaker 2: away for any extended period of time, so I was
Speaker 2: joking with him tonight, but no, Rob is back in
Speaker 2: his regular position. Ready to set your calls up. No
Speaker 2: calls until nine o'clock tonight. But we will talk with
Speaker 2: Boston City Councilor Ed Flint about the job status of
Speaker 2: another city councilor who has pled guilty to a federal indictment.
Speaker 2: We'll also talk about the gift of this Boeing seven
Speaker 2: forty seven jumbo jet airliner that has generated so much controversy,
Speaker 2: and we'll see what all of you think about that.
Speaker 2: But first we are going to go through our guests
Speaker 2: in our first hour. By the way, I should reintroduce myself.
Speaker 2: I am the afore mentioned Dan Ray, the host of Nightside,
Speaker 2: and joined now by our first guest of the evening,
Speaker 2: Wayne Sours, who's an author. He has combined and worked
Speaker 2: on a book with a mutual friend of ours by
Speaker 2: the name of Mark Lund, Honored to serve in their
Speaker 2: own words, a book with a collection of stories from
Speaker 2: veterans who have served this country. This is coming out
Speaker 2: before Memorial Day. Wayne, Welcome back to Night's Side. How
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 3: Hey? Very well, Dan? How about yourself?
Speaker 2: Doing great? Doing great? What? When? What's the genesis of
Speaker 2: this idea? It sounds like a great idea on it
Speaker 2: to serve in the wrong words. But how did you
Speaker 2: and Mark one to come up with this idea?
Speaker 3: Well, I have to say I provided the stories. I
Speaker 3: have a syndicated column called Veteran Spotlight, which I've been
Speaker 3: doing for the last oh ten or eleven years and
Speaker 3: all these stories that I'm that I'm writing. And Mark
Speaker 3: and I think we were having lunch one day and
Speaker 3: he said, geez, ever thought about doing a book? And
Speaker 3: I yeah, right, And and I will say this, Mark's
Speaker 3: just skill and expertise in framing the book and just
Speaker 3: what he brought to the table is phenomenal. And I'm very,
Speaker 3: very very proud of this book. What we tried to
Speaker 3: do is we've tried to humanize the person, the man
Speaker 3: or woman that served our country, Dan and and I
Speaker 3: think that anytime we can highlight or showcase in the
Speaker 3: positive and appropriate fashion, I think that's just that that
Speaker 3: really makes the people that have served our country, It really,
Speaker 3: you know, makes them feel good. And that's what this
Speaker 3: is all about.
Speaker 2: So again the title wanted to serve in their own words.
Speaker 2: Over the years, I guess you have done about eight
Speaker 2: hundred interviews with men and women who answered the call.
Speaker 2: And I kind of imagine that all eight hundred interviews
Speaker 2: are in the book. But how many are in the
Speaker 2: book and what military engagements does the book span?
Speaker 3: Well, it goes from world worth is probably about eighty.
Speaker 3: I think we have eighty stories and I'm already working
Speaker 3: on the second book, because they're just they're just really
Speaker 3: very very very summer just out of the ordinary. Some
Speaker 3: are very very very powerful. They're heart wrenching, and it
Speaker 3: goes expans from World War Two to present and we've
Speaker 3: got Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard and it
Speaker 3: was a real thrill, uh in honor not to be cliches,
Speaker 3: to write this book. The oldest person that we have
Speaker 3: and is a very very very good friend of mine.
Speaker 3: His name is his all name Team Tiso Masaconi. He's
Speaker 3: a one hundred and two years old World War Two
Speaker 3: vet and was at Pearl Harbor after the Japanese bombed
Speaker 3: they brought the army in uh and then he went
Speaker 3: to the Battle of Saikan. He was he was a
Speaker 3: combat warrior and then he was at Iwo Jima for
Speaker 3: about eight months. And I mean to be one hundred
Speaker 3: and two years old, I mean unbelievable. And he's still
Speaker 3: he's still got you know, he's still got all of
Speaker 3: his faculties. You know, his eyesight. You know, he had
Speaker 3: a little trouble with the curveball, but he does so some.
Speaker 2: From as early as World War Two and people who
Speaker 2: are currently serving.
Speaker 3: I assume no, No, it's right up to the veterans
Speaker 3: up until you know the present time, not existing about
Speaker 3: active military, okay, it's about the veterans, okay.
Speaker 2: And this book was published in March. The publication date
Speaker 2: is March nineteenth, so it's fresh off the presses, well
Speaker 2: timed for Memorial Day, for summer reading, for Father's Day, birthdays, everything.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a like a great book. And I
Speaker 2: do think that there is a there's a real renaissance
Speaker 2: I think in this country of people who want to
Speaker 2: serve and people who respect and admire those who put
Speaker 2: on the uniform for whatever branch of the service and
Speaker 2: for whatever purpose, but they do spend some time in
Speaker 2: service to the country. And I think there's been a
Speaker 2: huge shift in this country. Those of us who are
Speaker 2: old enough to remember the Vietnam era, when wearing the
Speaker 2: uniform was not something that people respected sadly, but obviously,
Speaker 2: I think in the last thirty or so years, with
Speaker 2: the threat of terrorism at home, people understand that being
Speaker 2: in the military is not going somewhere around the world
Speaker 2: on an adventure. You're going somewhere to make sure that
Speaker 2: those battles are not brought to our shore. I think
Speaker 2: we have. I think most people have learned that and
Speaker 2: understood it.
Speaker 1: Is that.
Speaker 2: Is that, in your opinion, something that people perhaps now
Speaker 2: more appreciate those who donned the uniform.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so. I think there's there's a lot
Speaker 3: of Vietnam veterans in there. The thing that I'm very happy,
Speaker 3: delighted and proud of is that a lot of the
Speaker 3: veterans that are in that book, I don't know the
Speaker 3: exact percentage, but over fifty percent never talked about their service.
Speaker 3: And I'm very honored that they felt comfortable with me.
Speaker 3: And I want to thank good friend of mine, Brigadier
Speaker 3: General Don Quenville, who did the forward to the book,
Speaker 3: and he's very, very very kind to me with his words.
Speaker 3: But one Vietnam veteran had said to me, you know,
Speaker 3: fifty some years ago, absolutely Ethne hated us, and now
Speaker 3: they love us. And I think that's that's how far,
Speaker 3: you know, we've come in that and my purpose for
Speaker 3: including the Vietnam veterans and that was to give him
Speaker 3: they were welcome home. As we all know that they
Speaker 3: were scorned and ridiculed and verbally sometimes physically abused, and
Speaker 3: so I wanted to include them in there and give them,
Speaker 3: you know, their long overdue welcome home.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of there were a lot of
Speaker 2: Korean War veterans also as fully appreciated. They were sort
Speaker 2: of like a hybrid. I mean, everybody from World War Two,
Speaker 2: I think we understood. Are those generations understood the danger
Speaker 2: of the country faced? Uh? Probably Korea was a less
Speaker 2: understood war. And then Vietnam obviously was the war that
Speaker 2: that a lot of people really felt was unnecessary and
Speaker 2: ill and ill informed. But they took it out on
Speaker 2: the warriors, not on the politicians who made the decisions. Well,
Speaker 2: it sounds like it sounds like a great read. How
Speaker 2: can they get it and what's the I mean? Obviously
Speaker 2: I know that they can always go through probably Amazon
Speaker 2: and places like that. But do you folks have a
Speaker 2: website where they can where they can order it through
Speaker 2: you and perhaps get it inscribed.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, for a signed copy Veterans dash spotlight
Speaker 3: dot com. Veterans dash spotlight dot com. You can also
Speaker 3: order it off of Amazon. But if you would like
Speaker 3: a signed copy Veterans dash spot like dot com and
Speaker 3: I actually sent a copy for you inscribe to the studio.
Speaker 3: So if you swing by it sometime to the next
Speaker 3: week or two, you'll be able to get your copy
Speaker 3: and read the whole.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I should be there tomorrow actually, so
Speaker 2: depending on when you sent it, we'll pick it up
Speaker 2: and we'll read it, and we will share it with
Speaker 2: some people who will also appreciate it as well. That's
Speaker 2: the good thing about these books. These books are not
Speaker 2: necessarily things you want to just read and put in
Speaker 2: a library. That you give them to other people and
Speaker 2: allow them to experience and read the stories as well.
Speaker 2: Wayne sours, thanks so much. Please say hid to mark
Speaker 2: one for me when you get a chance to talk
Speaker 2: with them. Okay, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: Will Dan, thank you so much. Yeah, yes it is.
Speaker 3: And thank you so much for the time. You're an
Speaker 3: equally great guy. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Thanks to the kind where it's Wayne,
Speaker 2: talk soon, okay, all right, when we get back, we're
Speaker 2: going to also talk about a different type of army.
Speaker 2: This one is the Salvation Army up in Newvery We're
Speaker 2: going to be talking with the captain from the Salvation
Speaker 2: Army up there. They're raising funds this weekend. We want
Speaker 2: you to be aware of that. We will also talk
Speaker 2: with an architect about the Martin Richard Fieldhouse which is
Speaker 2: going to be constructed in Dorchester. And we'll also talk
Speaker 2: with Professor Staller, Greg Staller of Boston University, the Questrom
Speaker 2: School of Business, and we normally have him on as
Speaker 2: a guest to take phone calls, but I thought that
Speaker 2: tonight want to get sort of a quick update from
Speaker 2: him and analysis during this hour when we don't have
Speaker 2: phone calls, and talk about what is the significance of
Speaker 2: the ninety day pause for further negotiations on tariff's or
Speaker 2: tariff relief between the United States and China, and of
Speaker 2: course other negotiations as well. My name is Dan Ray.
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Speaker 2: more great guests coming up. Stay with us here on
Speaker 2: night Side.
Speaker 1: It's night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. I am delighted to go from
Speaker 2: Wayne Sores talking about those who serve in the military
Speaker 2: to Captain Jessica Burkhout. Have I pronounced that name correctly?
Speaker 2: I hope I have. Captain.
Speaker 4: I am well, Dan, thank you and yes, you did
Speaker 4: pronounce it right. Thank you very much for having me
Speaker 4: this evening.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Why you guys in the Salvation Army
Speaker 2: do so much good and you're with the Salvation Army
Speaker 2: of New Report and this weekend you have a walkathon.
Speaker 2: It's also a family fair. It sounds like it's going
Speaker 2: to be a great day. Hopefully the Weather's going to
Speaker 2: hold Saturday, May seventeenth. It's laps for lunches. Tell us
Speaker 2: about it. I know what it's about, but I'm sure
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to explain it better than I can.
Speaker 4: Oh. Yeah, it is going to be quite the exciting event.
Speaker 4: It isn't our It is our inaugural event, and it
Speaker 4: is to raise funds for our food security programs to
Speaker 4: address food insecurity. Weekend is going to be filled with
Speaker 4: uh well that Saturday will be filled with food trucks, games,
Speaker 4: bounce houses, a DJ, We'll have music, We'll have some
Speaker 4: uh booths out there for community knowledge, and then of
Speaker 4: course our walk where we have teams and individuals that
Speaker 4: will be walking the track for each lap, raising funds
Speaker 4: for our social service programs, specifically in food security.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, you guys serve more than new Report. You
Speaker 2: serve Amesbury Byfield, Newbury, New Report, Rowley, Salisbury and West Newsbury,
Speaker 2: Newbury all up there sort of and I would consider
Speaker 2: like the Cape Ann area.
Speaker 4: Would that be the Well No, No, that that's fight.
Speaker 4: Those are all the locations we call it up here,
Speaker 4: the greater Newberry Poor area.
Speaker 2: That's fine, Report beautiful. Anyone who's never been to Newburyport.
Speaker 2: It's a great it's a beautiful city, a beautiful coastal
Speaker 2: New England city. This will be already tended to at
Speaker 2: the Bradley Fuller Park, forty Low Street in Newburyport. We'll
Speaker 2: get to all of that in a moment. But you
Speaker 2: got from ten o'clock, you got the walk and the
Speaker 2: family fair begins. You got a kickoff party, You've got
Speaker 2: food trucks at eleven, you got a DJ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be a great day, a great
Speaker 4: day for family and friends in the community, just to
Speaker 4: come together and celebrate community while also fundraising for an
Speaker 4: amazing cause to support our families and households that we
Speaker 4: love so dearly. Here.
Speaker 2: Now, how much of a problem is this something that
Speaker 2: will be for kids benefit kids in school during the
Speaker 2: day or is this for families you know, at home
Speaker 2: at night to provide them with dinners and all of that.
Speaker 4: So Dan, it's both The Salvation Army Social service and
Speaker 4: food and security programs provides multiple areas of food security
Speaker 4: here at the Newberry Court Salvation Army. We provide food
Speaker 4: security in several areas. One we have a community meal
Speaker 4: program where we provide our neighbors and guests with lunch, dinner,
Speaker 4: and breakfast during the week where individuals can come and
Speaker 4: either sit down in our cafe and enjoy the hot
Speaker 4: meal there, or several families like to come and pick
Speaker 4: up and then enjoy that meal at home in the
Speaker 4: evening time with their children and their families. Then we
Speaker 4: also have an emergency food pantry where households can come
Speaker 4: and shop the food pantry for the items that they
Speaker 4: need in our households. And then we also have things
Speaker 4: like gift cards and school vacation Week School vacation Week.
Speaker 4: I have four kids under the age of twelve, and
Speaker 4: when school vacation comes, they eat me out of the
Speaker 4: house and I swear my food budgets doubles when they
Speaker 4: are home for April vacation or Christmas vacation. So we
Speaker 4: have a program where we pack extra available food items
Speaker 4: and meals for the week so that families who do
Speaker 4: have their children home for vacation will be able to
Speaker 4: have snacks and different food items to just kind of
Speaker 4: help them along the week so that they can ensure
Speaker 4: that they have all the items that they need for food.
Speaker 2: Now, is this the type of program that the Salvation
Speaker 2: Army is doing in various cities around the Commonwealth. Or
Speaker 2: is this something that you're doing a new report and
Speaker 2: is a real emphasis and push that you folks have
Speaker 2: decided to take on.
Speaker 4: So I think both. I think that there are several
Speaker 4: locations and many over the over Massachusetts that have very
Speaker 4: similar programs to us, like the feeding programs and our
Speaker 4: food pantries, and even different seasonal opportunities for items for
Speaker 4: food and meal programs. As far as the holiday breaks,
Speaker 4: that has been something that we've created here because there's
Speaker 4: been a great need and we noticed that need about
Speaker 4: three years ago. And I related to it very much
Speaker 4: as well when I saw that when my children were
Speaker 4: home from school they're now all fully school aged kiddos,
Speaker 4: that it is tough on the budget when your meals
Speaker 4: double and sometimes triple breakfast, lunch, and dinner and all
Speaker 4: their snacks and so it can get expensive.
Speaker 2: So this is Saturday, this coming Saturday, May seventeenth, give
Speaker 2: us the easiest website. Obviously, people in the new report
Speaker 2: area are going to know how to get in contact
Speaker 2: with but if anyone can't participate, they want to make
Speaker 2: a donation, They want to get information as to how
Speaker 2: they can participate. What's the best way to get in
Speaker 2: contact with you?
Speaker 4: Yes, the best way to get in contact would go
Speaker 4: would be for them to go to Salvation ARMYMA dot
Speaker 4: org backslash new very poor that will have all the
Speaker 4: information where they can learn more and they can even
Speaker 4: register to walk or participate in the event.
Speaker 2: Salvation Army m a LA or backslash news report. Perfect.
Speaker 2: That's perfect, made it easy. Thanks so much. I really
Speaker 2: appreciate it, Captain Jessica Burkout.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Dan, welcome, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Thanks very mentioning best of on Saturday. The weather holds
Speaker 2: our pleasure.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's what we're waiting for. Thank you so much, Dan,
Speaker 4: have a great evening, you too.
Speaker 2: Good night. All right, we get back to talk about
Speaker 2: the tariffs. The ninety day pause in the tariff war,
Speaker 2: not a ceasefire. Maybe it is a ceasefires, but will
Speaker 2: it's a point where I want to talk and we
Speaker 2: will in the next segment with our friend Professor Greg Staller.
Speaker 2: He is a China expert, having bend to China about
Speaker 2: fifty times in his academic career taking students over there,
Speaker 2: and he's a professor Business professor at the Questroom Business
Speaker 2: School at Boston University. So we'll talk with Professor Staller
Speaker 2: right after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by good friend, Professor Greg Staller
Speaker 2: of Boston University, the Questroom Business School. Greg, I know
Speaker 2: that in the next couple of weeks we will do
Speaker 2: another hour where we get people to ask you questions
Speaker 2: about this, because I don't care. Most people, me included,
Speaker 2: are trying to figure out what the heck's going on now.
Speaker 2: We had Liberation Day on April second, when Donald Trump
Speaker 2: announced the Golden Age of America had begun. The stock
Speaker 2: market tanked, and slowly but surely it seems to have
Speaker 2: come back. And this week it was announced in Europe
Speaker 2: that the war the trade war, there's a ceasefire for
Speaker 2: ninety days. Can you explain in layman's terms what's going
Speaker 2: on here?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and by the way, thank you again for the
Speaker 3: opportunity to return. I would call this a targeted tariff reduction.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call this a trade deal. I would and
Speaker 3: again I think we need to differentiate amongst the UK deal,
Speaker 3: what's going on in China and the other countries around
Speaker 3: the globe. I think bespoke is probably the best term
Speaker 3: to use in terms of this being customized. I think
Speaker 3: this is all a move in the right direction, but
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it a victory for any one country,
Speaker 3: including the United States.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let's talk. Let's talk about the deal with
Speaker 2: the United Kingdom, which generated a lot of interest about
Speaker 2: a week ago. What's the bottom line. I'm sort of
Speaker 2: one of those guys that I want to know what
Speaker 2: the score is. Are the Red Sox winning or losing
Speaker 2: in by how much?
Speaker 3: I feel the same way. I think that if you
Speaker 3: look at it in terms of the details, you know,
Speaker 3: from the inside out, it accomplishes three things. It reduces
Speaker 3: tariffs so specific goods. It maintains a tariff on most goods,
Speaker 3: and by the way, the specific goods it reduces it
Speaker 3: on are British cars, some steel, some aluminum, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And it's also looking to protect jobs in key sectors
Speaker 3: like car manufacturing and steel, et cetera. Again, I don't
Speaker 3: want to insult your listeners by repeating myself, but these
Speaker 3: are all steps in the right direction. But to your
Speaker 3: point about you know, getting down the brass tats. It
Speaker 3: is a three month test, and the jury still out
Speaker 3: as to whether this is going to become permanent or not.
Speaker 2: Including the British the British US deal which they announced
Speaker 2: with such fans here also is a tentative. It's in
Speaker 2: place for ninety days, and it could be it could
Speaker 2: be blown up ninety days from now by either side.
Speaker 1: Is that the circus, that's correct?
Speaker 3: I mean, this is my take on and I've said
Speaker 3: on your show so many times over the years that
Speaker 3: I'm not a political scientist, I'm not an economist, but
Speaker 3: just from a regular business person's perspective, I think that
Speaker 3: President Trump didn't have much of a choice. It was
Speaker 3: only until today that some of the stock industries have
Speaker 3: gotten back into the black. For twenty twenty five, the
Speaker 3: bond market's been going crazy, His approval rating has been tanking.
Speaker 3: I think this is his effort to try and stabilize everything.
Speaker 3: You know, we know from the Federal Reserve today that
Speaker 3: inflation has sort of been tamped down, but it's still
Speaker 3: very much a work in progress. I think his constituents,
Speaker 3: as well as people who made donations to help him
Speaker 3: get elected, were raising their hands saying, what the heck's
Speaker 3: going on here? So I think that whether it's the UK,
Speaker 3: I think, whether it's China, I think it's whether it's Japan,
Speaker 3: and the South Koreans can calling to the White House.
Speaker 3: These are all ways to sort of placate his constituents
Speaker 3: as well, many of whom were business executives, and say
Speaker 3: let's try and do a pause and let's see if
Speaker 3: we can ameliorate things over the next ninety days.
Speaker 2: But when he when somehow, some way we reached out
Speaker 2: to China, I believe that was the sequence. If China
Speaker 2: had wanted to, they could have said, hey, we're not
Speaker 2: even going to talk to you, never mind negotiate with you.
Speaker 2: So the fact that China came to the table and
Speaker 2: they've had this conversation. According to President Trump, we were
Speaker 2: big time in the whole in terms of money that
Speaker 2: we were spending on tariffs and we were not getting
Speaker 2: it coming in. I mean, when this is finally done
Speaker 2: and finally settled, there will be an accounting.
Speaker 3: There will be an accounting. And I think it's important
Speaker 3: for all of us, you, myself, your listeners, et cetera,
Speaker 3: to not conclude that this is a permanent trade deal,
Speaker 3: and I say permanent, there are still ten percent tariffs
Speaker 3: that are out there, and with respect to China, and
Speaker 3: if you look at what's going on FEDNOL, you know,
Speaker 3: all of that has not been eliminated. But I think
Speaker 3: this is the epitome, at least visa via Chinese of
Speaker 3: the term saving face is. Let me just sets the thought.
Speaker 3: The shin Hua News agency, which is all in Chinese,
Speaker 3: coming up, they have, you know, given a very typical
Speaker 3: Chinese response. The road ahead still requires both sides to
Speaker 3: explore and shape it together with wisdom and courage, but
Speaker 3: we consider it to be a great victory.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think we could say the same thing in reverse
Speaker 3: from the White House dot gov website.
Speaker 2: But when you're talking about China, we're talking about you know,
Speaker 2: we're talking about access to some rare earth minerals that
Speaker 2: we need. You're talking about computer chips. Uh, you're talking
Speaker 2: about intellectual theft, because that's a big problem our many
Speaker 2: of our companies have lost billions of dollars to what's
Speaker 2: called intellectual theft. So I mean there's there's more to
Speaker 2: it just than how much we're going to charge you
Speaker 2: and you're going to charge us.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree.
Speaker 2: And you, my audience needs to understand that. And again
Speaker 2: I'm not bragging on you here, but but but you
Speaker 2: you're you. You are linguistically capable in seven languages, and
Speaker 2: you read and speak Chinese. You've done you had fifty
Speaker 2: trips at least to China since nineteen ninety four, so
Speaker 2: you know the interior of that country. So you know sociologically,
Speaker 2: maybe not politically, but sociologically. Uh. And so you can
Speaker 2: read the statements that come out of Beijing and put
Speaker 2: your own interpretation on what they're saying and what they
Speaker 2: are trying to say and what and in addition, what
Speaker 2: they're implying, because that's the average person is not going
Speaker 2: to be able to look at the printed language or
Speaker 2: listen to the verbiage and have that ability to to
Speaker 2: understand that on all of those different levels. That's why
Speaker 2: you're so important to my audience. And I mean that
Speaker 2: all in all honesty. So now let me just finish
Speaker 2: up here. With a couple of minutes that we have left,
Speaker 2: it's going to get quiet. The turbulence of April has
Speaker 2: has settled down. Okay, how long do you think I'm
Speaker 2: not asking for a stock market prediction. But how long
Speaker 2: do you think the turbulence will stay relatively calm, because
Speaker 2: it's got to pick up again as we get close
Speaker 2: to the ninety days. I assume it's not.
Speaker 3: Right. I think the most interesting data point that I've
Speaker 3: been reading about for the past couple of days is
Speaker 3: people are pressing send on their order books as fast
Speaker 3: as humanly possible. The stock of several transportation companies, whether
Speaker 3: they be on oceans or whether they be trucking companies,
Speaker 3: their stocks are up. Everybody's putting the orders in now
Speaker 3: and probably stocking up on inventory they're hoping to fill
Speaker 3: because nobody knows what's going to happen ninety days. Hence,
Speaker 3: and so I know, sort of a nod answer to
Speaker 3: the question, no, no, no, no matter is the stock
Speaker 3: market is booming for the moment, and the orders are
Speaker 3: whizzing across the internet for the bulvit because people figure
Speaker 3: one in the hand is better than two in the bush.
Speaker 2: Right. But but there's nothing that the market dislikes more.
Speaker 2: The market wants some form of certainty. And as we
Speaker 2: get closer to this ninety day and period, and at
Speaker 2: the end of this ninety day period uncertain he's gonna
Speaker 2: bubble up again unless it's just smooth sailing. But I
Speaker 2: can't imagine it's gonna be smooth.
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure how i'd agree with that, Dan,
Speaker 3: because look what happened was then the ninety day deadline
Speaker 3: came and went, and they just kicked the can down
Speaker 3: the road and extended it. The same thing with TikTok
Speaker 3: is we were all set for a firm decision with
Speaker 3: all of the you know, with all of the nineties
Speaker 3: and the fourteen piece orchestra performing. That wasn't needed. It
Speaker 3: was just kicked down the road. But for the moment,
Speaker 3: you know, my contacts are saying, we'll take it to
Speaker 3: your point a few minutes ago, stability growth no a
Speaker 3: lot during twenty twenty five, we'll take you.
Speaker 2: But TikTok still has to get resolved.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 2: That's part of the whole conversation. Yeah, okay, so we're just.
Speaker 3: We're kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And you know, again, it looks at whether you're a
Speaker 3: glass half full or glass half empty curved first, right,
Speaker 3: the half full part of me says, well, forward progress
Speaker 3: is better than nothing. The balls will be down the field.
Speaker 3: The half empty part of me says, yeah, but nothing's
Speaker 3: really been memorialized here yet. It's still, to your point,
Speaker 3: a work in progress.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you being available tonight and giving us
Speaker 2: this UH, this update. We'll do something in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks from now, when when the horizon gets a
Speaker 2: little closer and the UH and our vision becomes a
Speaker 2: little clearer. Greg Stahler of the Question School of Business
Speaker 2: at Boston University is always you're the best. Thanks Thanks, professor,
Speaker 2: appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: My pleasure. Thanks again, Dan, talk to you.
Speaker 2: Okay. When we get back, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: the Martin Richard Fieldhouse, a magnificent structure that will be
Speaker 2: built in Dorchester and will benefit generations of young people
Speaker 2: in the memory of one of the four people who
Speaker 2: lost their lives on the day of the twenty thirteen
Speaker 2: Boston Marathon, eight year old Martin Richard. Will be back
Speaker 2: and talk about this field house and what a tremendous
Speaker 2: legacy from Martin Richard. This will be right after the break.
Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Speaker 1: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 5: I think all of us remember the horrific events of
Speaker 5: the Boston Marathon twelve years ago April of twenty thirteen,
Speaker 5: that took the lives of four people and eventually an
Speaker 5: Mit police officer and a Boston Police officer.
Speaker 2: The youngest of the victims, eight year old Martin Richard
Speaker 2: of Dorchester, became sort of a symbol of innocence in childhood,
Speaker 2: snatched by the heinous actions of the people who put
Speaker 2: those pressure cooker bombs on people watching the marathon as
Speaker 2: they stood on Boylston Street. However, out of something as
Speaker 2: horrific as that now rising as the Martin Richard field House,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have been involved in that with
Speaker 2: us is Kevin Diebler, Kevin Hope, I pronounced your name correctly.
Speaker 2: You're dead and you're an architect with a company called
Speaker 2: Road Architects. So you, folks, des I understand, are involved
Speaker 2: in the construction of this, this wonderful field house, which
Speaker 2: is going to be a gathering spot for generations of kids.
Speaker 2: You must be thrilled to be involved with something as
Speaker 2: as significant as this this field house.
Speaker 6: Yes, and I am really excited to be here tonight. Dan,
Speaker 6: thanks for letting me talk about this project and you know,
Speaker 6: I'm Kevin Kevin Devar and more of the co founders
Speaker 6: of Roady Architects, and we are a firm that kind
Speaker 6: of got start in Dorchester about twenty years ago. So
Speaker 6: raising our families in Dorchester. My business partner Eric Robinson
Speaker 6: and I, you know, we're we're community members and I
Speaker 6: would say everyone in Dorchester was very much affected by
Speaker 6: that tragedy and it isn't sort of on our minds
Speaker 6: that we would play a role in trying to sort
Speaker 6: of lift up the community with this this project. And
Speaker 6: we're you know, our our families, you know, can know
Speaker 6: the Richards. We play sports, we do activities and arts
Speaker 6: with them, and it was a moment where people did
Speaker 6: focus on the good things that happened in Dorchester. And
Speaker 6: I think that the Richard family really kind of we're
Speaker 6: sort of that representation of people who care for their community.
Speaker 6: So because of the you know circumstances and the you know,
Speaker 6: uh having their their family impacted by that, we were
Speaker 6: all very much taken by that kind of community that
Speaker 6: that surrounded them with love and support, and it is
Speaker 6: just kind of like an amazing thing to be a
Speaker 6: part of, you know, looking back at it.
Speaker 2: So let's talk a little bit about the building, the architect.
Speaker 2: I know that the there was a ceremony earlier this
Speaker 2: month if I'm not or late last month. Yes, the
Speaker 2: basically it was the groundbreaking how how many people will
Speaker 2: this fieldhouse accommodate? Give us a sense of how big
Speaker 2: it is, what it will involve. You're the architect, you
Speaker 2: probably know it better than anyone.
Speaker 6: Well, that's true, and others on our team, Lucas and
Speaker 6: Aana definitely know the building even better than I do
Speaker 6: because they work on it day, day by day. But
Speaker 6: it took us nine years to to pull this off.
Speaker 6: It was finding land near a Boston public school, The
Speaker 6: Ruth bats And Academy right next door has a thousand
Speaker 6: kids that we'll be able to use this on a
Speaker 6: daily basis, So that that in and of itself is
Speaker 6: pretty amazing that there's going to be this facility for that.
Speaker 6: But within a three mile radius, as we were kind
Speaker 6: of studying how this project could impact, there's about fifty
Speaker 6: thousand kids, and that means that there are you know,
Speaker 6: many thousands of families in there that need the kind
Speaker 6: of support that the field House will provide. And that
Speaker 6: also comes with making sure that we want to mention
Speaker 6: the Boys and Girls Clubs of Dorchester playing, you know,
Speaker 6: a huge role in this. They will be the sort
Speaker 6: of group that can program the facility and sort of
Speaker 6: operate it under the way that Boys and Girls Clubs
Speaker 6: do their work and their sort of presence in the
Speaker 6: Dorchester community has always been kind of comforting to families,
Speaker 6: working families, and you know, I think that the real
Speaker 6: sort of challenge here is to make sure that we
Speaker 6: can do as much as possible under this one roof.
Speaker 6: So it has sports facilities, it's got wellness arts, it
Speaker 6: has spaces for people that have some counseling, and just
Speaker 6: really a big focus on inclusion and people living with disabilities.
Speaker 6: So there's there's so many good things to talk about
Speaker 6: and mostly what we're about to build.
Speaker 2: Will will this technically be the boy the Dorchester Boys
Speaker 2: and Girls Club or will it simply be a great
Speaker 2: facility run by the What's what's the official status? Is
Speaker 2: what I just want to it's a.
Speaker 6: Bit sure, well, you know, we're actually calling at the
Speaker 6: Fieldhouse plus and it it really is going to be
Speaker 6: part of the Boys and Girls Clubs of Dorchester's campus.
Speaker 6: And there's a building right across the street that is
Speaker 6: sort of the Walter Denny Center, and that really has
Speaker 6: been serving the Harbor Point and uh, you know neighborhood
Speaker 6: for for many years. And then the clubs all have
Speaker 6: two facilities, the mar and the McLoughlin Center that's over
Speaker 6: in the more proper neighborhood of Dorchester. But this new
Speaker 6: area will be like a new campus that will serve
Speaker 6: the entire you know, Columbia Point peninsula out there and
Speaker 6: be part of all those institutions that are out there.
Speaker 2: And so I'm sure you'll have basketball courts, swimming pool
Speaker 2: or is it.
Speaker 6: Ye as two hard courts and that sort of the
Speaker 6: The focus started really at the top though. It was
Speaker 6: a turf facility, and we were looking for places in
Speaker 6: Dorchester to find the room that could house a turf facility.
Speaker 6: It was one of these things as parents in Dorchester
Speaker 6: spent a lot of time on rainy ball fields and
Speaker 6: there really aren't places to practice in the in the
Speaker 6: off season like other kids in suburbs have, and you know,
Speaker 6: you travel around and see these amazing facil So it
Speaker 6: really started with like trying to get this type of
Speaker 6: indoor turf facility off the ground, and then as we
Speaker 6: found the land right next to this school, we realized
Speaker 6: that the open space on that land is also very important,
Speaker 6: so we started to make the building a little bit taller.
Speaker 6: We've found out we could really almost make it work
Speaker 6: with three courts, but we ended up with two full
Speaker 6: sized basketball courts, second floor track that can walk around,
Speaker 6: so everybody can sort of watch their kids while they
Speaker 6: walk and get some exercise. But then it has a
Speaker 6: whole nother wing to it, which includes a theater, teaching kitchen,
Speaker 6: music clubhouse, and other offices and spaces that can support
Speaker 6: and provide wrap around services.
Speaker 2: It's like just a fabulous facility in the memory of
Speaker 2: a very special little boy. Martin Richard Kevin appreciate the explanation.
Speaker 2: I really now have a sense of it, and I've
Speaker 2: talked to people about it, but you really have sort
Speaker 2: of focused it for me and hopefully for others, and
Speaker 2: now it'll be great when it is finally up and running. Finally,
Speaker 2: last quick question, what is the hope. I know that
Speaker 2: they're doing very well in terms of raising the funds necessary,
Speaker 2: but do they have a open the doordate yet? Approximately?
Speaker 6: Yes, I think we hope to be complete in about
Speaker 6: eighteen months. That should be at the end of twenty
Speaker 6: twenty six, opening doors, cutting the ribbon. At that point,
Speaker 6: fundraising is continuing to happen. They're at about fifty five
Speaker 6: million for a seventy million dollars you know building, and
Speaker 6: this is seventy five thousand square feet state of the
Speaker 6: art facility, so the opportunity to give is definitely still there.
Speaker 6: So they have a little bit left to raise, but
Speaker 6: we're definitely seeing the finish line come up. And very
Speaker 6: very excited to talk to you tonight, Dan, So thanks
Speaker 6: for giving us.
Speaker 2: Your record to talk with you. Kevin Diebler, co founder
Speaker 2: and principal of Road Rode Architects, Kevin posted and we'll
Speaker 2: talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 1: Take care yep, all right, we come back.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk with Boston City councilor Ed Flynn
Speaker 2: about what is going on in the Boston City Council
Speaker 2: and maybe it is time for an ethics standard at
Speaker 2: Boston City Hall, including for the Boston City Council. We'll
Speaker 2: get to all of that right after the news break
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock.