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Speaker 2: My name is Travis Lastly, and I'm the unofficial president

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of the Michigan chapter of the Shirley You Can't Be

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Serious Podcast fan Club, And you're listening to the Shirley

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you Can't Be Serious Podcast?

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, Welcome back to the Surly you Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. We are on part two of our

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comparison of Footloose and Purple Rain, and we are not

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going to waste any time. Let's dan.

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Speaker 3: This is the sixth episode that we've done so far

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on our summer of nineteen eighty four. It's been amazing

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to go through and just concentrate on one summer.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you saw either one

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of these movies? Yes, I saw Footloose in the theater.

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Speaker 3: I saw Footloose in theater, and I think I saw

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prop raina on HBO when I when I didn't have

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Speaker 1: So, right, I can remember vividly seeing I didn't see

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all of Purple Rain. But my brother was in high

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school at the time, and he goes over to this

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friend's house that a bunch of high school kids are

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going to watch the VHS copy of this thing, and

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her little brother and I are banished to the upstairs

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and like you you know, you guys are too young,

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you can't watch this, And so of course we go

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upstairs for about seven minutes and they're like, let's go

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sneak downstairs, and so we sneak downstairs. We crawl in

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the dark on our hands and knees under the chair

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that everybody's sitting on. You know that somebody's sitting on

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the TV and it is the lake Mini Tanka scene.

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Speaker 3: Well, for starters, you have to purify yourself in the water.

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Speaker 1: Is a lake in a time and we get to

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see Appollonia's boobies and we're like, our work here is done.

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We did not watch the rest of the movie. We're

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just like, let's get out of here before we're caught.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, I'm out of here, okay, Jason.

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Speaker 1: Before we get started, we have to acknowledge our executive producer.

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Today we have a new Patreon subscriber and he is

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our executive producer. That is mister Travis Laslie.

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Speaker 3: Travis, thank you so much, man, We really really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys who's communicated to us over

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and over again on Facebook. We love having the conversations

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that we have with our Facebook members. Please, if you

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haven't signed up already, be sure and follow. We're like

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our Facebook page so that we can have fun with you.

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Two man speak, happy family.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Okay, we got another executive producer this time

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it is mister Cameron Eckert, one of my college roommates, Cameron.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. When Cameron was in Egypt's you know, I

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bet you never get tired of hearing that. I'm sure

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he's heard it before.

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Speaker 3: Cam, Thanks, buddy, appreciate you. He and I talk regularly.

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We go over the episodes and he gives me input. Okay,

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and so I think that makes Cameron our first Canadian

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executive producer who Canadian.

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Speaker 1: A Thank you, dear listener. If you want to be

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an executive producer of one of our episodes, all you

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have to do is come to our Patreon page, which

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is patreon dot com slash Shirley Podcast, and you can

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sign up for as little as a cup of coffee,

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probably less than a cup of coffee these days. Thank

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Speaker 3: Alright, eh a boozer. Let's talk about production on these movies.

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Lake Minnetaca scene. Okay, Yeah, let's back up just a second. Okay,

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So filming started on Purple Rain Halloween of nineteen eighty three. Okay,

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the first scene in the movie is actually Prince and

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fall foliage of Minnesota. Funny part about that it snowed the.

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Speaker 1: Next day, right right. Hearing Apollonia talk about this in

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various parts, the severity of what happened is different, but

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basically her jumping in that water two or three times. Afterwards,

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she was going into hypothermia. And then apparently she was

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that he won't help her professionally because she couldn't pass

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initiation and she's like, what are you talking about. He's like,

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she strips down and jumps in. Now that was shot

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she says, Yeah, I slept in his bed and he

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Speaker 1: Nothing happened, which Prince, are we tiking? Wow?

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for this is he gave everybody had show up and

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do dance lessons in acting class and acting classes.

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comic relief of this movie. Yeah, they would be a

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very heavy movie without their comedy in it. But one

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the songs that we're going to use? Right? Sure, Prince

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gives out Magnoli this huge catalog of music and he's like, okay, well,

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which of these do you want me to use? He

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this live performance that end up in the album. But

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one of those songs is the song Purple Rain.

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Speaker 3: That concert happened August third, nineteen eighty three. People don't

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a Star and Purple Rain are taken from that concert

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in nineteen eighty three. Now they produced them up. They

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Speaker 1: It was the first time they had ever performed Purple

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the key to our movie, and Princess, okay, can we

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call the movie Purple Rain? He says, sure, that sounds

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of the Purple ran dand the movie you actually have

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Purple Rain. And then he goes backstage and the crowd

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him back and he does I would die for you,

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and baby, I'm a star.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's the original storyline as Prince had done it.

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in this murder suicide, and the end of his script

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of his storyline, and so that obviously has changed. I

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a guy who wonders, will I turn out like my dad?

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right and he doesn't want to. He saves himself from

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becoming that, and that unlocks another key, which is the

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Wendy and Lisai, Nobody cares about you. I'm the star,

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figure out what his mistakes were. And they said, like

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his improvement was obvious from beginning to end on his

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the part that you're talking about before his dad's were

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like that. His dad was like, that's the difference between

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you and me, is you got to write your stuff down.

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I've got online right here. Well then he finds out, well, no,

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his dad has been writing stuff down, and that's he

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so he can listen, and he hears the scene that

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into his dad and they have this moment of Wow,

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for real, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's really cool.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing about his father and the suicide, the

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studio wasn't comfortable with a murder suicide, or really even

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a suicide. Yeah, and so Albert Magnoally is like, no problem,

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he won't die, And I'm like guy. I mean he

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that better he missed?

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Speaker 3: Wow, he's a lousy shot. Harry, You're alive and you're

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a terrible shot. Okay, did you know that there is

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another sex scene in Purple Rain that has been deleted? Yeah,

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it's the Purple Rain sex scene.

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Speaker 3: Right right. You have the illusion of the rain in

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the background and maybe some lights or something that makes

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it look purple. But apparently the scene was even more

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awkward and they just it just didn't really work. But

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Speaker 3: To talk about real quick. Okay, the sex scene between

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Speaker 3: But it's odd. It's just an odd scene.

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Speaker 1: Well. I even texted you right after that scene. As

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I was watching it, I was like, whoa, I do

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not remember the V grab that happens in this scene.

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Speaker 3: The hands wonder for sure. Yeah, but there's no nudity.

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Speaker 1: Nope, although you can pretty well see through her paintings.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I've got a couple of little interesting tidbits

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on production Purple Range. Okay, So Prince and his good

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buddy Morris Day high school friends and bandmates. Yep, according

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to one of the guys in the Time, mister Jellybean Johnson,

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they got in a fistfight on the set of Purple Range.

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substance abuse problem. He would show up late, he would

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show up not at all, he would not go to

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dance lessons, and just generally be a huge pain in

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the butt to everyone. Prince had enough of it one day,

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and apparently they got into it pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So the scene where the Time is doing Jungle Love,

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there's this really memorable part where the guys are dancing

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like they're up on the balcony and you've got them

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all dancing synchronicity together. Yes. So that dance group was

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known as game Boys, and they later like three of

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those groups of the group members Tony Moseley, Kirk Johnson,

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and Damon Dixon became members of Prince's band, the New

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Power Generation. They're also background dancers on Graffiti Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, not a big, not a big, not so much.

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Morris Day says a total of thirteen words to the kid.

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Yeah you know how many the words the kid says

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to Morris Day.

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Speaker 1: That would be a goose against zero view the one

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more thing yep.

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Speaker 3: During the production, Albert Magnolay comes to Prince and he says, listen,

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I've got this music montage and I want a song

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that kind of encapsulates all of the drama from the movie,

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just kind of carries us through all the emotions that

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the kid is going through. Right, you got problems with mom,

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you got problems with dad, you got problems with your girlfriend,

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you got problems with your band. Can you come up

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with something, so Princess like, yeah, I think I can

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come up with something. The next day comes back two songs,

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one of them when does cry Wow you forgot the bass.

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We'll get into that when we go track by track.

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Speaker 1: So one more thing yep. Just before Prince plays beautiful Ones.

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he leaves the girls and he goes and sits down

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at the table that Apollonia is at. Yes, all of

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his pickup lines are paraphrase lines from the Times songs.

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So Chili saus comes from ice cream, Castle comes from

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jungle Love, and the bird What time is it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I heard that Albert Magnoli sat down with Morris Day

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and Jerome and said, all right, guys, here's what the

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script says. Uh huh, Now, how would you say it right?

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I would say that that line, how's the family? That's

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More's Day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, let's jump back over to Footloose. You know,

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we talked about casting already, but let's talk about who

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gave the best performance? Right, yeah? Okay. So we've got

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a lot of incredible actors. So you think Kevin Bacon good,

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but I wouldn't say he's the best. John Lefcott again excellent,

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but not the best performance Lori Singer, No, what who

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do you have?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Listen?

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Speaker 3: They all did a great job, including Chris Bean, Sarah

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Jessica Parker, Dian Weist. They all did a great job.

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But the person who gave the greatest performance in Footlers

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is the kid who falls asleep in church at the

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very beginning. When his dad wakes him up, he looks

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like he wishes he were dead.

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Speaker 1: That was a memorable There's not a better performance. That

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was for real, real stuff.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've been in church a lot of times, and

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I guarantee I've look like that a lot of times too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's let's talk a little bit about

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prep work that these guys did for their acting performances. Okay.

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So Kevin Bacon was twenty four at the time that

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he was going to do this performance, and so he

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was like, am I still in touch with what high

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schoolers are doing? Right? And so he hit up the

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principle of a local high school and said, Hey, I'd

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like to come, you know, check out your high school.

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to be like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever, trying

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to strut through the place and be cool and stuff,

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and he ended up having an experience that was completely

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different than they expected. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he walked in like mister tough guy and realized

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pretty quickly this is very uncomfortable. So he lowered his eyes,

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lowered his head, tried not to be noticed and felt

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very alone, isolated, even scared.

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and literally got made fun of for the skinny tie,

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like the line of the movie, hey nice tie. It

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came from that sperience, And so it's really truly interesting

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because I think that frames up a much better movie

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if you've got a character who's like kind of having

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to duck his head and he wants to be cool,

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but he's struggling. I mean he's struggling throughout the beginning

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of this thing because he's unsure of himself, which would

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make sense. I mean, living with your mom to this

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new place where nobody knows you, and you're getting hassled.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think you're cool, but nobody else thinks

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you're cool.

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Speaker 1: Right, You're doing the stuff that was cool where you

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were from, but everybody here seems to think that that's

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the devil's music. I know, Hey, you know what that

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reminds me too.

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Speaker 3: When they first explained to him that dancing is illegal, Yeah,

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he's like jump back, jump back. That was a term

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that Kevin Bacon actually brought to the script, right, and

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they thought, all right, that's cool enough to leave in.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, So it's interesting because John Lithcow kind

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of did the same thing on his own, so he

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wasn't raised in like a Christian household, It wasn't a

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part of his upbringing, so he won to know what

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it was like. And so he called a local minister

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there in the town that they were filming at and

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posed as someone who was having spiritual difficulties and you know,

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I've got questions, can you help me out? And the

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guy was like, oh, of course, and met with him

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and talked with him for hours, and he said, I

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felt like a total snake in the grass because this

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was just the nicest guy, really persuasive about Jesus and

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his love, and it was just like I felt lower

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than low. But again, that's the perfect thing to inform

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his performance for this movie.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think that's awesome. That's super fascinating that both

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of those actors would probably have taken their role in

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a different direction had they not done those two things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, so. I can remember as a kid, I

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thought John Lefgas's character was just this awful, you know,

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tyrannical human being. But watching as an adult, I'm like, no,

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this guy is the guy who's like, he's trying to

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do his best. He's trying hard to make things right

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and protect his flock because he's lost one of them,

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and the one that he lost was his own kid.

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That's a huge that's a huge deal. And so when

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I go back and I look and I'm like, who's

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the hero, Well, you got two. You have two heroes

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in here, two guys who make character shifts. And so

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that Kevin Bacon, going from the guy who's insecure and

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trying his best to you know, be a part of something,

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finds this thing to latch onto, this cause to latch onto,

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and then he gets to stand up and talk in

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front of the entire town. And it's not something you

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can tell. It's not something that he enjoys. As a

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matter of fact, that Kevin Bacon, the actor said, I

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really don't like public speaking, Like it was difficult for

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me to do that scene because I'm not used to

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talking in front of a large group of people like that.

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Speaker 3: He brought that in hives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's kind of weird. I mean he's

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a Broadway actor before this, but I guess you know,

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the lights are down, you don't see people, you just

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in the moment. But with this one, he's trying to

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talk to an entire crowd of people and as for

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a lot of folks, it's really intimidating. But he it's

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because of that he gets that character shift where he's

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like he finally gets to pound the table and say

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this is wrong and he stands up for something where

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he's been kind of beat down through the beginning of

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the episode. And then you got John Lithgow who sees,

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you know, he's doing all he can to protect people.

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He's trying to stop what he sees as this menacing thing.

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But then he starts to realize at the book burning

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right after he has this horrible encounter with his daughter

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in the church, he goes because they're burning books in

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front of the library and he sees that his flock

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has taken it too far right. It's like he's like,

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oh no, this is you know, what I meant for

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good has turned into something evil and I've got to

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I got to change my perspective of most.

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Speaker 3: That's really interesting that you say that. So for me,

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when you say give me a movie that you had

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one perspective as a young person and that perspective has

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changed over the years. Phyllis is my number one example.

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Speaker 3: As a young person, I'm like, let the kids dance, man, absolutely,

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and I still like, let the kids dance. But let's

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not forget the pastor he lost his son in an accident. Yeah,

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and he's lost, and he's hurting, and he doesn't want

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to lose his daughter as well. And he's got the

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responsibility of his flock, like you said, and so it's

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it's complex, and he's trying to do the right thing

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for everyone right and Ariel is a little bit off

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the rails and she's standing on two racing cars going

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towards a semi right. As a father, I would brown

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upon that behavior, of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And my daughter will tell you she's like that

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because her parents were too restrictive.

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Speaker 3: Well, and we all have something to learn.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I can identify with that as how

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I felt when I was a kid too, you know,

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like your this is too much. I'm gonna go out

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and I'm gonna do things that are crazy just because

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I need to live life a little bit. Yep.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned the scene where Wren goes in front

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of the school board. Yeah, no, it's the public. It's

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the town council.

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Speaker 1: It's the town council, real life, real life Elmore City

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was the school board. By the way, Arla mentioned that

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Larry Current that preacher actually looks like John Witkow. Really.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to meet that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, Dean Pitchford I listened to the commentary, Dean

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Pitchford said that that scene was originally written as a

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more pound the table type of thing. Let us dance,

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this is our moment, we need this, huh. That Kevin

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Bacon pulled back, and it gave more gravitas and it

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was more like you could hear a pin drop type

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of thing. And he said that was the right thing,

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that was the right choice for that character.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, the insecurity that you can see and having to

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overcome that made it more compelling.

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Speaker 3: And absolutely, and as a church going person, when you

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pull out scripture to aid you in your argument against

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a pastor, it's a little disarming.

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Speaker 1: This powerful moment, A powerful moment, Okay. And I want

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to say one of the things that I went ahead

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and brought Arlen up. So just a couple of other

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little stories. He says he can remember there were some

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guys who were trying to break dance behind the school

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and cop came and told him if they didn't stop

472
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,160
that they'd get arrested. Now keep in mind he's younger,

473
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,880
like he's he graduated in the late eighties. But this

474
00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:55,680
law was still a law up until nineteen ninety two

475
00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:59,680
in Elmore City. Wow, I mean that's twelve years after

476
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,559
they have first prom Finally they changed the law to

477
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,680
allow for public dancing. He said it was actually the

478
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,240
second time that those guys had gotten caught. The first

479
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,079
time they got caught was by the shop teacher and

480
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,759
he just wailed on him with the paddle.

481
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: Old school, which again, right, that's awesome. Hey, you guys,

482
00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:20,599
break it up, no more breakdancing. Back here and get

483
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,599
the paddle out, grab your ankles.

484
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,039
Speaker 3: So Kevin Bacon had to do some dancing, he had

485
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:28,119
to do some gymnastics. He actually said that during the

486
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,440
rage dance. Okay, let's let's talk about the rage dance

487
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:41,079
for a second. So Ren finally gets tired of it.

488
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,119
He's had enough. So he goes to this warehouse and

489
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,359
he rage dances, right, and he smokes and he drinks

490
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,799
and he dances. Right. This is the Rebellious Act. And

491
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:50,599
it's a little bit it's I mean, it's a lot

492
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,680
corny and so like it is a little bit ye,

493
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:54,680
but the music is great and so we go along

494
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,000
with absolutely. But during that scene, I think there were

495
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,599
five total people involved, including Kevin Bacon. So you have

496
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,680
a gymnast, you have like a ballet dancer, you have

497
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,640
Kevin Bacon, you have a dance and so there's five

498
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,759
people involved in that scene. And Kevin Bacon wanted to

499
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:13,559
do it all himself, and they had to kind of

500
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:15,759
say making.

501
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: Kevin, you're pretty good at a bunch of things.

502
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,799
Speaker 3: But this isn't what we want.

503
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,279
Speaker 1: So let's go someplace dark and put your face in

504
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,079
the shadow. That's it, and by your face with me

505
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:26,559
and the other guy.

506
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: One of the guys was Chuck Gaylord, who is Mitch

507
00:25:31,519 --> 00:25:35,160
Gaylord's brother. Mitch Gaylord being the Olympic like nineteen eighty

508
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,440
four Olympic Gymnasts, starred in the movie American Anthem nineteen

509
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,039
eighty six.

510
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Wow looking, shoot with your knowledge that boom.

511
00:25:44,000 --> 00:26:02,759
Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about the tractor scene. First of all,

512
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,079
Ren on a tractor. He has no idea how to

513
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,920
drive a tractor, and they give him the crash course

514
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,599
of like, okay, here's the clutch, here's staring.

515
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:12,279
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great scene where Chris Penn keeps repeating

516
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,480
everything that the other guy is saying. It's hysterical.

517
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a clutch. Yeah, yeah, there's a clutch.

518
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

519
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:22,319
Speaker 3: And his shoelace gets caught on the accelerator.

520
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,079
Speaker 1: Right. I mean, this movie is rebel without a cause,

521
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,119
except that he has a cause now, right is a

522
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,160
throwback to the old James Dean thing. And of course,

523
00:26:29,319 --> 00:26:32,119
just like the old James dean thing. They've got a race,

524
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,920
a chicken race, right, and so you've got this awesome

525
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,599
moment where it's if anybody studied game theory, this is

526
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,599
a really interesting kind of dynamic that you got to

527
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,240
look at because somebody's got to give. Somebody has to

528
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,400
give in this game. And it turns out Ren is

529
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,039
the one that gives.

530
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 3: Ring tries to give about ten dimes.

531
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives like ten seconds in. Yeah, okay, that

532
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,880
guy's like one hundred feet from me. So I'm gonna

533
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,200
go ahead and oh shoot my footstock.

534
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, shoelace is stuck around the excel and then he

535
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,599
finally is like, okay, here it comes.

536
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: I can't get off, and so now my only option

537
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,799
is to just keep going forward and not like go

538
00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:13,640
off the rails into the ditch. And I wondered, because,

539
00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:15,279
like before when I had watched it, H'm like, how

540
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,160
does he get a shoelace off so easily? Afterwards, when

541
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000
he finally stops and it starts aginning and it stops again,

542
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:23,839
you can see him yank his foot really hard. I

543
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240
can give that up as he's just finally like, I'm

544
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,240
ripping this thing off, and then he starts cheering like

545
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:32,880
he's the hero and didn't. Yeah, holding out.

546
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: For the hero, and you overlay it with the great

547
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,519
Bonnie Tyler song holding Out for a Hero. It is

548
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:58,160
a great suit. It's funny, it's entertaining, and it's thrilling.

549
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: Totally, totally great. One of the best of the movie.

550
00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know if we talked about this.

551
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:04,319
All this was filmed in Utah.

552
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to Kevin Bacon went to a high

553
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960
school in Utah. John Lynch gasaw preacher in Utah, and

554
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:11,759
the tractor race was in Utah.

555
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Utah County, Utah, and it's like the heart

556
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,720
of Utah. And when they talked to Herbert Ross, Dean

557
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:19,200
Pitchford was like, well, I was kind of thinking like

558
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,640
the wheat fields of Oklahoma, and Herbert Ross is like, listen,

559
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440
trust me. When there's nothing on the screen, but there's

560
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:28,119
mountains in the background, it's more interesting to look at.

561
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,839
Just just go with me on this. And they're like, okay, yeah.

562
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:35,839
Speaker 1: I mean you cannot beat the wheat fields in northern Oklahoma.

563
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,799
Whenever it's June harvest time, it's wonderful. It's like golden

564
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,839
oceans out there, but that's only for about a month

565
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,319
out of the year. Yeah, so not a good time

566
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:45,960
to try to do that.

567
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,519
Speaker 3: One more thing, I wanted to talk about the dance

568
00:28:48,680 --> 00:29:02,680
montage with Kevin Bacon and Chris Penn where he's teaching

569
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:06,119
him how to dance. So there's this whole dance montage

570
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,480
set to Let's Hear It for the Boy by the

571
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,079
Denise Williams and Kevin Bacon is taking Chrispin under his

572
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:14,920
wing and he's teaching him how to dance in preparation

573
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:18,559
for the prom It's interesting because they scattered around and

574
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:21,799
it's it's in the gym, it's at farm, it's in

575
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:23,519
the fields, that's the football field.

576
00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,279
Speaker 1: It's all over the right.

577
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:28,799
Speaker 3: So what they did was while they were filming it,

578
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,720
the last scene of every day on the shooting schedule

579
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:47,960
was the dance scene, and so Kevin Bacon and Crispan

580
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,200
would dance. Here's the interesting thing. The song that they

581
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,039
had was not Let's Hear It for the Boy. It

582
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:55,880
was one of the original songs that they have, which

583
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,359
we'll talk about when they go track by track next week.

584
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:01,599
But when they would do their dancing the last scene

585
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,839
of every day and then they cobbled this montage together,

586
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,240
and that's why it's really cool to see a ton

587
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:09,000
of different locations and they're dancing.

588
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:12,559
Speaker 1: Sounds great. Okay, Okay, let's jump back over to the

589
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:23,039
performances in Purple Rank. Okay, we talked before. All of

590
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,039
the characters were pretty much I mean, they were based

591
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,200
on their real life counterparts, right, right. But you've got

592
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,640
one critical character that is an actor that came from

593
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,799
the mod squad, Clarence Williams, the third. He is a

594
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,799
guy who is a driving force through this whole movie,

595
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,000
right right. So it's not a complicated script, right, It's

596
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:50,119
boy meets girl, Boy loses girl, Boy realizes that he's

597
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:54,599
enacting the abusive behavior of his father and mother and

598
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,839
realizes he should change, and then also realizes that he's

599
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:01,920
got this commonality with his father. Boy gets grow back, Boy.

600
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: Plays amazing song. Win's Girl back.

601
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,559
Speaker 1: That's right, right. So at that point, you know the

602
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,960
scene where he's talking to Prince and he's at he's

603
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,640
talking to the kid and he's at the end of

604
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,839
his rope and he asked him about having a girlfriend. Yeah,

605
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,640
and he's like lover. He's like, you know, I don't

606
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,720
know yet right, and he's like, don't ever get married.

607
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Was so powerful that Albert Magnoli said they wept as

608
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,240
they watched them perform the scene. Strong, strong performance. And

609
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,920
then again, the reason I say he's the driving force

610
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,599
is because of that change that has to occur in

611
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
the kid, like he doesn't want to be like his father,

612
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:41,920
he doesn't want to be like his mother, but then

613
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,640
he as time goes on, he sees himself becoming them,

614
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400
which I think was the idea from the beginning, when

615
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Prince first wrote these words down on notebook paper. That

616
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,240
was the whole notion, was that he had become his

617
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,039
mother and had become his father, and that's why he

618
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,279
wanted to play those parts himself and flashback scenes. But

619
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200
obviously the way they did it was much better than

620
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,079
that idea. But he's got to make that change. Did

621
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,519
I tell you that like the end of the movie

622
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,319
that Prince wrote, he commits suicide, Like that's the end

623
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,880
of that movie, Like he puts in his mom's ear

624
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,559
rings and he goes ahead and commits suicide. So thank

625
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,359
goodness that they didn't do it that way. This was

626
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,079
not this could not be a downer movie with the

627
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,160
music that you have no.

628
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,279
Speaker 3: No, they thank you for not making that choice.

629
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: Right.

630
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: By the way, that advice don't ever get married. Yeah,

631
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:33,759
that's actual advice from Prince's dad to Prince as a

632
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:34,240
young man.

633
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,039
Speaker 1: It is very biographical this movie. Yep. Yeah.

634
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:39,559
Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know if you know this,

635
00:32:40,079 --> 00:32:41,720
and I don't want to get too much into music.

636
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:45,640
We're talking pretty strictly about movie, right, But when Prince

637
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,240
and Albert Magnoli were working on Purple Rain, Prince gave

638
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,039
him a hundred songs to choose. From one of those

639
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,400
songs that was not in that hundred Purple Rain, right,

640
00:32:54,519 --> 00:32:55,920
another one one dubscry right.

641
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: All of I mean those two and one other that

642
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:01,400
made it onto the soundtrack all came through the live

643
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,839
performance in nineteen eighty three. It was third nineteen eighty three,

644
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,799
Wendy Melvoy's first performance. It was, like I said, last time.

645
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,519
Albert was in the crowd when they did that performance,

646
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,160
and when he heard Purple Rain, that was what made

647
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,079
him go to him and say, I would really like

648
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,279
to make this the key song in the movie. It's

649
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,160
so powerful, And Prince said, can we name the movie?

650
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Purple Rain? Sounds great, let's do it, and what a

651
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,039
great name. It's great, that's great.

652
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: The scene where Prince's dad is playing the piano, yep,

653
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,400
and he they're having this discussion about that's the difference

654
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,240
between you and me. I don't have to write my

655
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,319
songs down. That piano piece of piano music. It's actually

656
00:33:38,319 --> 00:33:39,519
being played by Prince.

657
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: Right, and it ends up in one of Prince's songs.

658
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:44,720
It's like it's on computer blue. It's so hard not

659
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:46,799
to talk about the music on. The movie is all

660
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:47,960
about the music.

661
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,519
Speaker 3: I know, I know. Did you know that Purple Rain

662
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,319
was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry by

663
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:55,759
the Library of Congress.

664
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Well, it's an incredible move.

665
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: We will get into that. We will get into that.

666
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:03,480
You know who the only guy who doesn't speak in

667
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:04,599
the movie from the Revolution?

668
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: Is it? Mark Brown? Mark Brown Brown Mark.

669
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: What an unfortunate nickname.

670
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrible.

671
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So let's move on to the reception and the

672
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,199
success of these movies.

673
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Right. So, both of these movies, the album came out

674
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,199
before the movie, right.

675
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: And that's huge, particularly in Purple Rain's instance.

676
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: I would say it's huge in Footloose's instance as well. Okay,

677
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,039
because I mean, if you don't know those songs already,

678
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,320
there are new songs when you're watching a movie and

679
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,679
they're not as impactful. Well, that's true, Footloose. The album

680
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,480
did so well that people would buy the album having

681
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,119
never seen the movie before the fact that it was

682
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,079
getting played on the radio had a huge impot me.

683
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,280
It was, like we talked about with Huey Lewis, Power

684
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,039
of Love was the number one song the week that

685
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Back to the Future came out. The very first cool

686
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,760
scene that we see is him skateboarding behind the cars,

687
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,519
and that music is what's playing in the background, and

688
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:02,840
so it it's perfect that the album comes out before

689
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,840
and everybody's familiar with these and they are dancing along

690
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,519
with those guys.

691
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the original ending of Phillis before we

692
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,400
oh yeah, okay, we kind of it goes along with

693
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,719
what you were talking about this success. The original ending

694
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,639
was they got the council to agree to let them

695
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,719
have a dance. Yes, And the director his quote was,

696
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,400
if you spin the whole movie trying to get the car,

697
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,440
when they give you the keys to the car, you

698
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,559
actually possess the car, right and that's the end of

699
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:32,199
the story. So they screened it with basically they arrive

700
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,440
at the prom and that's the end, right, Yeah, So

701
00:35:35,519 --> 00:35:38,679
Dean Pitchford says, guys, I think we need to add

702
00:35:38,679 --> 00:35:40,800
a song here and let them dance and let the

703
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,039
audience participate in the dance.

704
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

705
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: And so when they originally screened it with the just

706
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:49,719
arriving at the prom and that's the end of the movie,

707
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audiences did.

708
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Speaker 1: Not like the movie.

709
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: But you throw in the Kenny Loggins go Crazy footloose song,

710
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:57,320
and you have the break dancers, and you have Kevin

711
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,159
Bacon come in, let's dance and they dance, and you

712
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:01,760
have the credits and all that stuff.

713
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: You went into Bill Cosby a little bit and the

714
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dancing with Jews and stuff.

715
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,039
Speaker 3: But it went from a movie that was disliked to

716
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,360
a movie that was a huge smash because the audience

717
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,159
wanted to party with the cast.

718
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you said, if you're spending the

719
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,760
whole movie trying to get the car and you end

720
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,920
with them getting the keys, the audience is like going

721
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,800
to be where's the car. I want to see the car.

722
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,519
Speaker 3: I want ride in the car.

723
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,519
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of the whole movie. And you

724
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:35,000
also had to have some sort of resolution with the bullies, right, yeah,

725
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,440
Trick's boyfriend. You had to have some sort of resolution,

726
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:41,800
and they chose to have a parking lot brawl out

727
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,639
of it. I think that's great. Let's kick a little,

728
00:36:43,639 --> 00:36:45,519
but let's get these guys out of here. Let's do

729
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:49,599
a big karate kick to the face, and then let's

730
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:54,360
go dance. That's it, let's dance. Side note. Elmore city

731
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,880
first prom theme was Stairway to Heaven.

732
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: Nice.

733
00:36:57,559 --> 00:36:59,079
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any break dancing going on.

734
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,199
I don't think break dancing a thing yet in nineteen

735
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,639
eighty I think it was like eighty two that break

736
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,679
dancing really started.

737
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,079
Speaker 3: That's the type of information you get here at the Shirley.

738
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:08,199
Can't be serious there you go.

739
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,679
Speaker 1: Nowhere else will you find that information?

740
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, let's flip back to Purple Rain. Okay,

741
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:16,800
reception here is where the match hits the fuse of

742
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,239
the megaton bomb that becomes purple rain. So you have win.

743
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,039
Doves Cry is released as a single and video May

744
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:27,119
sixteenth and nineteen eighty four, and I can tell you

745
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,440
from experience it was the song of the Summer of

746
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,360
eighty four. The album drops a month and a half later,

747
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,000
June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty four, and then on July sixteenth,

748
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,320
nineteen eighty four, Wind Doves Cry is the number one

749
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,559
song in the country. That's when they released Let's Go

750
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:45,079
Crazy July sixteen, and then the movie drops July twenty seventh,

751
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:45,719
nineteen eighty five.

752
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: Then they have the Hollywood premiere of the movie. Everyone

753
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,400
shows up. It's crazy like it's a red carpet event.

754
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:56,000
You've got Eddie Murphy, You've got Prince and all his

755
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,400
purple wonderfulness. It is a huge, huge event. It is.

756
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:03,000
It is.

757
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: Let me back up a second. I got a little

758
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,719
bit ahead of myself.

759
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

760
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,599
Speaker 3: So when they finished the movie, they screened.

761
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: It for Warner Brothers.

762
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: Ok okay, they showed it. After the first screening, everybody

763
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:19,199
thought it was a dud zinks what So Magnoli said, listen,

764
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,360
this movie's going to do forty million dollars. Don't kill

765
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,119
this movie. If you do, it will be a travesty

766
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:28,119
against art. Let this movie live. And he kind of

767
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,360
had that pounding thing. He said, here's what you do.

768
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,599
Here's your marketing campaign. You put an ad in every

769
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:37,000
paper saying Warner Brothers presents prints in his first motion picture,

770
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:40,480
Purple Rain, in every major city that has a black community.

771
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:43,519
They tested in Culver City, California. The numbers were so

772
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,159
far through the roof that they accused the producer of

773
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:51,079
stacking the deck. They're like, this is bogus, this is

774
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,800
bull You called all your friends. So what we're gonna

775
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,280
do is we're going to screen it two other places,

776
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,599
and we're not going to tell you where we're going

777
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:58,480
to do it. So they screened it in Denver and

778
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,480
in San Diego, and this thing happened.

779
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: Numbers through the roof.

780
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,119
Speaker 3: They had to show up multiple times because people would

781
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,239
come back and want to watch it again. Yeah, and

782
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,599
so they were like, well, this is crazy. We don't

783
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:12,320
get it. But it's it's on fire, right, So that's

784
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,639
when they decided. One of Brothers decided to put on

785
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,559
nine hundred screens worldwide, and it made close to seventy

786
00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:19,800
million dollars that summer.

787
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: That's awesome, by.

788
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: The way, if you get a chance to go back

789
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,239
and look at that MTV premiere, yeah, it's super cool.

790
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: All right. So normally this is the point where we

791
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,679
would go into the soundtracks of the movie.

792
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, let's do it.

793
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:43,679
Speaker 1: Man. I'm ready to talk Musing next week. No, these

794
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,400
two albums are too big to make a single part

795
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,639
of some other show. You've got to come back. We

796
00:39:48,679 --> 00:39:51,760
will talk Footloose next week. We will talk Purple Rain

797
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,199
the album the week after that, and then we will

798
00:39:54,199 --> 00:39:56,960
give you our final judgment. What's the best movie, what's

799
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,519
the best out.

800
00:39:57,639 --> 00:39:59,679
Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing. We're going to go track by track,

801
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,599
gonna learn things about these songs that you never knew.

802
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:07,679
Come back next week.

803
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Speaker 1: Come in? Do you like what? Do I got?

804
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:16,079
Speaker 3: No?

805
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:17,559
Speaker 1: Sh