Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey there everyone, and welcome back to Disconnected. I'm
Speaker 2: so happy to have everybody here tonight, Dustin, it's been
Speaker 2: quite some time we're just talking about this feels like
Speaker 2: just I don't know, seven weeks ago, but it's been
Speaker 2: like nine.
Speaker 3: Months, yeah, September, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Just thrilled you're here. So how are you welcome back?
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much for having me back.
Speaker 2: It's my honor genuinely because I am always through. Are
Speaker 2: we wearing the same shirt tonight? Really?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Well, happy pride again to everybody. Hello, welcome back, Welcome back.
Speaker 2: How uh how's everything been you? You watch a ton
Speaker 2: of movies. I'd love to hear what you've been loving
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I was. I was gonna say, uh when
Speaker 3: we were talking before the show. Yeah, the I think
Speaker 3: it's starting. When the Oscar nominations came out, I sort
Speaker 3: of told myself I was gonna basically watch everything that
Speaker 3: was nominated, and that included every short film. So like,
Speaker 3: I went to the theater and saw all of the shorts,
Speaker 3: the live action, they animated, the documentary shorts, nice and yeah,
Speaker 3: I think from that then, I was just like, well,
Speaker 3: let's carry it on and try to see as much
Speaker 3: as I can in the theater this year, you know,
Speaker 3: on top of everything else that that comes on in somebody's.
Speaker 2: Life, because we're you and not busy in anyway.
Speaker 3: Yes, right, so yeah, so yeah, I've seen a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff this year.
Speaker 2: Well we'll get into more recent watches very soon, but
Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody. Dustin wrote a pretty great
Speaker 2: book that is linked in the description below. If you
Speaker 2: want to check it out, please go check it out.
Speaker 2: It's a ton of basically capsule reviews of some really
Speaker 2: great horror movies. You want to give more of an
Speaker 2: elevator pitch than that.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's called The Fright File one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty Films to See Before Halloween, And yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: collection of one hundred and fifty essay slash reviews of
Speaker 3: some of my favorite hard films.
Speaker 2: It is great, and I hope people check it out
Speaker 2: because I am so grateful to be able to have it.
Speaker 2: It was I've actually referred to it on a couple
Speaker 2: of things that I was helping write. So I appreciate
Speaker 2: you and all of your contributions that you've made. What
Speaker 2: have you been picking up lately? I'm always dying to
Speaker 2: hear this from certain people because you don't necessarily always
Speaker 2: share your pickups. So I don't know what you love
Speaker 2: to actually get. However, I know that you love a
Speaker 2: lot of the lower budget stuff, lower budget movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, and this is a very
Speaker 3: busy time. I feel like lots of stuff is coming out.
Speaker 3: If I actually say, I had to, I had to
Speaker 3: pick and choose what I recently got because otherwise we
Speaker 3: would just be here for three hours with me. But yeah,
Speaker 3: so I've got uh yeah, but so I basically picked
Speaker 3: the ones that I got this week. So, uh, I
Speaker 3: got drop.
Speaker 2: I still need to get that. Have you have you?
Speaker 3: Did you get to see that in the theater? It's
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I really like Christopher Landon, the director.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically and he said that he was inspired
Speaker 3: by Red Eye when he made it. Oh, it's basically
Speaker 3: Red Eye but set in like a high rise restaurant.
Speaker 2: That's freaking red. I have not heard the Red Eye thing.
Speaker 3: That's great, So but yeah, that was his main inspiration.
Speaker 3: I think, so that was that was why he wanted
Speaker 3: to do it. Yeah, and it's yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 3: ninety minutes. It's tight, it's it's suspenseful, it's just very
Speaker 3: well done. Sweet.
Speaker 2: I loved Red Eye, so that Yeah, that's that's exciting. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I also got I was so happy that this actually
Speaker 3: got a Blue ray released.
Speaker 2: The the Creep tapes, I was gonna share that next week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got that into somewhere. Yeah, I'm so stoked on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the movies and I've only watched one
Speaker 3: episode so far, but it's excellent. It's so creepy nice,
Speaker 3: hence the name Creep. So yeah, I'm happy for that.
Speaker 3: And then I got a Lord of Illusions the four K.
Speaker 3: Even I was disappointed that it didn't come with the
Speaker 3: Blu ray as well. It's just literally just the four K.
Speaker 3: The four K but.
Speaker 2: Sad typer pictures.
Speaker 3: And then oh now, this one was a controversial title
Speaker 3: when the when the cover was released, but I'm happy
Speaker 3: to have it, and I actually liked the cover the whiz.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it's a great cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ok, yeah, I think yeah. If there's one questionable
Speaker 3: thing about the cover, it's Diana Ross. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: but but I think it's it's it's well representative of
Speaker 3: the film, so.
Speaker 2: A very specific style. Yes, next up.
Speaker 3: So yeah, in in VHS days, i'd say the early nineties,
Speaker 3: I was really into Full Moon and even though they
Speaker 3: weren't good, not even knew back then they weren't good,
Speaker 3: but yet I still watched them. Right, I mean, there's
Speaker 3: a few that are good, but most of them aren't
Speaker 3: that good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But the one that I that I wanted so bad
Speaker 3: on Blu Ray and it just came out this week
Speaker 3: and I was so happy to have it is bad channels. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there we go. I just remember it's like it's half musical,
Speaker 3: half sci fi. I love the soundtrack. It has lots
Speaker 3: of like Blue Oyster called in it nice. Have you
Speaker 3: seen that one?
Speaker 2: No, I am dying to see it that I did
Speaker 2: not know the musical thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then all right, and then the rest literally
Speaker 3: just came today in the mail. So I got from Radiance,
Speaker 3: I got Palin Drooms excellent and yeah, I haven't seen
Speaker 3: this since the theater, so I'm looking forward to revisiting it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I remember, Yeah, I saw this at the AFI Silver
Speaker 3: in DC when it came out, and Todd Solons was
Speaker 3: actually there and did a Q and.
Speaker 2: A excellent that's so cool.
Speaker 3: All right. The next one, yeah, this is going to
Speaker 3: be another controversial pick, the Peter Pan's Never Lay a Nightmare.
Speaker 3: I have to keep getting these because I bought their
Speaker 3: their editions of the Too Winny of the Pooh Movies,
Speaker 3: and they're so nice, like this is beautiful and it
Speaker 3: comes with like a picture book and yeah, and just
Speaker 3: tons of like postcards and things and yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: just a really nice addition. So and I actually liked
Speaker 3: the second winn of the Pooh movies so well.
Speaker 2: And I've heard this is that the Peter Pan one
Speaker 2: is actually the best of what they've done so far
Speaker 2: and like genuinely worth watching them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't think they were the one of the Pooh ones
Speaker 3: were as as awful as some people said. Well, I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people actually said the second one
Speaker 3: was better than the first, and it definitely was. You
Speaker 3: could tell that the budget was a lot higher.
Speaker 2: Let's let's be honest. Most people just had an opinion
Speaker 2: without ever seeing them. That's the that's the truth.
Speaker 3: And the next one coming is Bam, b the Reckoning,
Speaker 3: so we'll see how that is.
Speaker 2: And I still need to see screen Boat. I'm actually pretty.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's entertaining. I can't say it's I
Speaker 3: can't say it's great. But the what's his name, the terrifier.
Speaker 2: Guy, Oh, I just forget it. David Howard Thornton.
Speaker 3: Dave Howard Thorton. Yes, he, I mean he makes it
Speaker 3: like he's the best thing about it easily, very different
Speaker 3: than art the clem.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just repeating himself. And then yeah, I
Speaker 3: got a bunch. I got all of the June Partner
Speaker 3: labels from Vinegar Syndrome today already, I fell the earliest
Speaker 3: that they've come in the mail, because yeah, I got
Speaker 3: the May like the halfway to Black Friday ones last week,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I got the June ones.
Speaker 3: So I just picked a couple. I had to pick
Speaker 3: scare Crow in a Garden of Cucumbers because that's the
Speaker 3: best title ever. This one. Yeah, I hadn't heard of
Speaker 3: this before it was announced, but it looks really interesting
Speaker 3: rounding it does.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm easier to see this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the last one is Enter the Void.
Speaker 3: This is a really nice addition to it's you can
Speaker 3: see like it's it's got like a big booklet with it,
Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah, it's very nice. And then the very
Speaker 3: last thing that I got that just arrived like two
Speaker 3: hours ago before the show.
Speaker 2: Oh again, you are the first one to get it.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, man, that I cannot wait to hold it.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a great issue. I really liked. I
Speaker 3: think it was Stan he did the article on the
Speaker 3: devils that was but yeah, I'm really enjoying reading it.
Speaker 2: So we are very proud of this issue. We were
Speaker 2: kind of worried about having enough to make it interesting
Speaker 2: and then we had too much at the end. I
Speaker 2: want to go back. Josephine left a comment before we
Speaker 2: got on, and I want to highlight some of these.
Speaker 2: Josephine says, first time watches sleep Away Camp, Rumbad, Jane,
Speaker 2: Silent Bob, strike Back, the Sunshines Bright, and Clooney Brown.
Speaker 2: I've not even heard of the last one. Any of
Speaker 2: these that you've seen and want to want to comment on.
Speaker 3: I mean, sleep Away Camp is a classic.
Speaker 2: It's brilliant. Yeah, I I'll also throw out there, Jane Silent,
Speaker 2: Bob Streke Back, one of my favorites of all time,
Speaker 2: love me.
Speaker 3: And yeah that one's good too.
Speaker 2: Stances, thank you all right. So I set aside three
Speaker 2: to talk about this week, thankfully, no crossovers. One I
Speaker 2: got in the four K of Abigail, which I lived year.
Speaker 2: This is the Turbine release from Germany, not the Screen
Speaker 2: Factory one. It is a slipcase with the four K inside.
Speaker 2: I trust Turbine maybe just a little bit more than
Speaker 2: saut Factory, so that's why I chose them. And then
Speaker 2: I missed this one last year. I didn't think I
Speaker 2: was gonna get it, and then I had a couple
Speaker 2: of people really explained to me how important it was.
Speaker 2: And I've never seen the movie, so it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a first time watch, hopefully in the next couple months.
Speaker 2: But I went out and made sure that I got
Speaker 2: Kickboxer on four K before it left Amazon. This is
Speaker 2: an exclusive four K s to a book that Lion's
Speaker 2: Gate put out, and it's the best release of the
Speaker 2: movie so far, not just because it's in four K,
Speaker 2: but it's got the multiple cuts of the film. It's
Speaker 2: got pretty much everything that somebody would want on it
Speaker 2: and I need to check it out.
Speaker 3: Was that the what did you say? That was out
Speaker 3: of print?
Speaker 2: Now? No, but it's one of those that I'm expecting
Speaker 2: it to not last a long time. I was kind
Speaker 2: of surprised it was still this is the steel book
Speaker 2: on the inside, and then this is the back cover.
Speaker 2: And then of course being Amazon, because I don't really
Speaker 2: trust it very much. I bought it once and had
Speaker 2: to return it because they sent me an open copy
Speaker 2: that was mangled. Definitely a return, and they just sent
Speaker 2: it right out. Simonar is saying, is Amazon's stopping production
Speaker 2: of it? It's not Amazon's choice, it's lions Gate's choice.
Speaker 2: And they're a lot of their limited edition stuff that
Speaker 2: was exclusive to Amazon has gone out a print already.
Speaker 2: And then finally, this is my last thing, but probably
Speaker 2: the thing that I'm most excited about for this month's pickups.
Speaker 2: This is from a company in Italy actually called the Legends,
Speaker 2: and this is their brand new release of Singham. This
Speaker 2: is their first physical media release as part of their
Speaker 2: company and as a brand new company, they just signed
Speaker 2: with Shout to release the not all of them, but
Speaker 2: like ten, eight or ten of the Golden Princess titles
Speaker 2: that they've signed. So this company that's giving a lot
Speaker 2: of great attention to stuff like this is going to
Speaker 2: be getting their hands on City of Fire, the John
Speaker 2: Wu titles, a couple of the others, and I mean
Speaker 2: the fact that Shout is licensing it too, Munch Territory
Speaker 2: shouldn't be surprising to people. But I'm glad that we're
Speaker 2: gonna have options around the world of some of these
Speaker 2: like City on Fire and Hard Boiled that people want
Speaker 2: the best possible release for.
Speaker 3: So yeah, awesome is what is the label caught again?
Speaker 2: They're called it's a it's a pretentious title, but they're
Speaker 2: called Legends. Here is their logo and the brand name
Speaker 2: right there. Well, I guess Legends Collection. And yeah, as
Speaker 2: you can see on the side, this is the Legends
Speaker 2: Collection Number one. Nice eager to see this. I've heard
Speaker 2: it's a really fun movie and Indians does not get
Speaker 2: enough releases. I know that that company, I think it's
Speaker 2: called the Cloud Door, is like doing a Kickstarter or
Speaker 2: Indiegogo types thing in the next couple months, and they're
Speaker 2: gonna be focusing on South Asian stuff, a lot of
Speaker 2: Indian cinema, so hopefully we see an uptick of those. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, now now the now the big question, what
Speaker 2: have you been watching lately? What have you loved in
Speaker 2: theaters in the last couple we'll say month and a half.
Speaker 3: Well, I figured I'll focus on this week's stuff. I've
Speaker 3: already seen all three of the wide releases this week,
Speaker 3: so I'll go over there. But yeah, last night I
Speaker 3: saw How to Trade Your Dragon the live action. I
Speaker 3: saw it in IMAX. It's probably what you're expecting, which
Speaker 3: is it's basically if you've seen the animated one, it's
Speaker 3: basically a repeat of that pretty much beat for beat. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it really isn't that much that's different about it. I
Speaker 3: mean I try to go into it and sort of
Speaker 3: imagine if I was watching it without there being an
Speaker 3: animated version, so like if I were to just watch
Speaker 3: it as a live action film and there was no
Speaker 3: previous one. It is well done, and I mean, and
Speaker 3: you know, I enjoyed it enough, but at the same time,
Speaker 3: it was hard because you just keep questioning, like you
Speaker 3: know why, like even though you know why, but I
Speaker 3: mean it is it is well done in its own way.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there I feel like they could have done
Speaker 3: a lot more with changing it up from the animated version.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I'm just too cynical. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people. It's not like a
Speaker 2: hot take to say I hate remakes or whatever. I
Speaker 2: don't hate that these exist. I just don't see why,
Speaker 2: like it, is it genuinely just a cash grib or
Speaker 2: are they trying to reach a different audience that doesn't
Speaker 2: appreciate animated movies, which those exist. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: putting that down at all, because I totally get that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it's it's gonna do big
Speaker 3: numbers this weekend.
Speaker 2: Always will.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be like Lee Loan Stitch. It's gonna be
Speaker 3: It's gonna be big, and that's why it exists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, that's that's most likely the exact answer.
Speaker 3: And then just earlier this evening before the show, I
Speaker 3: saw Materialists, that's the new Sealine Song film, And yeah,
Speaker 3: I said in my little review for it that the
Speaker 3: worst thing that can be said about it is that
Speaker 3: it's not Past Lives, which was just such a great film.
Speaker 3: But with that said, it's still very well done. It's
Speaker 3: a it's romantic comedy, drama, but probably more rama than comedy.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, that's what I've heard. The trailer makes
Speaker 3: it look more like a comedy, but it's Dakota Johnson
Speaker 3: is excellent in it, and it's nice to see a
Speaker 3: romance where the characters actually talk to each other and
Speaker 3: say what they mean without there being you know, false
Speaker 3: crises and you know, misunderstandings and things like that. And
Speaker 3: they're actually adult characters who act like adults. So in
Speaker 3: that way, it was very, very impressive, And yeah, I
Speaker 3: did like it.
Speaker 2: I am very eager see it's I loved Past Lives,
Speaker 2: so I am. I am definitely making it a point
Speaker 2: to see it this weekend. I missed Past Lives in
Speaker 2: the theater, like we talked about before, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to miss this one. This is a must for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that you're going to get to
Speaker 3: see it. And then yeah, and then the third one
Speaker 3: that's opening wide this weekend, The Life of Chuck Mike Flannagan.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 3: How do I how do I say it? It's very
Speaker 3: rare that there it only comes around every every few
Speaker 3: years for me where I see a movie that just
Speaker 3: affects me so deeply and so profoundly that I just
Speaker 3: I instantly know not only is it going to be
Speaker 3: the best of the year, but it's instantly one of
Speaker 3: my all time favorites. Like I just it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: very rare that that happens, and it just it's so
Speaker 3: inspiring to see something that just works on every single
Speaker 3: level and has so much to say at the same time.
Speaker 3: And it's just it's the movie that we really need
Speaker 3: right now, because while everything is just on fire, like
Speaker 3: this is the type of movie that makes you feel
Speaker 3: happy to be alive, and it's I just I can't
Speaker 3: recommend it enough for everybody. I think everybody would enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I think this I think this debuted at TIFF last
Speaker 2: year in like September.
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually, and then it took a while to come out.
Speaker 2: So this is like we had first heard the rumblings
Speaker 2: literally almost nine months ago ish, and I've been since
Speaker 2: that first moment dying to see this. I mean, I
Speaker 2: adore Flannagan, and yeah, to get away from his usual
Speaker 2: thing and to be getting the praise that this is getting,
Speaker 2: I'm just so excited for that.
Speaker 3: And yeah and yeah, so the best thing he's done,
Speaker 3: and I mean, that's saying a lot because he cheese.
Speaker 3: I mean, I like everything that he's done. And of
Speaker 3: course it's based on the story by Stephen King, and
Speaker 3: I would say that it's it's not that the storylines
Speaker 3: are the same, but I would say I would sort
Speaker 3: of compare it tonally to something like stand by Me
Speaker 3: Grant of course, that's one of my all time favorites as.
Speaker 2: Well, so one of his best movies by far.
Speaker 3: And also the cast, it's just like it has the
Speaker 3: best ensemble, like every and it's the sort of movie
Speaker 3: where it's so specific in the way that it's written
Speaker 3: and the way that it's acted that every single actor,
Speaker 3: every single character that shows up, even if it's only
Speaker 3: for one scene, you remember them vividly after the movie's over. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean Matthew Lillard, for example, he has one scene
Speaker 3: in the movie and he nearly brought me to tears, like.
Speaker 2: He's so good one scene that's crazy.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I was like, all right, this is
Speaker 3: the best performance he's ever given and it's three minutes long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he gets I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: just more work because he's like he's very busy on
Speaker 2: the convention circuit, too, but I would love to just
Speaker 2: see him in everything. He's got so much like left
Speaker 2: in the tank of just great stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that we've been seeing him a little
Speaker 3: bit more often lately. Yeah, but like even you know,
Speaker 3: like I loved seeing Mia Sarah in something again from
Speaker 3: like Ferris Bueller's Day Off and Legend because she hasn't
Speaker 3: been she has she basically retired from acting and long
Speaker 3: a movie and I think like thirteen years Yeah, and
Speaker 3: Mike Flanagan specifically came to her and asked her to
Speaker 3: be in it, and she was like, for you, I'll
Speaker 3: do it. Amazing and it's it's a great performance from her,
Speaker 3: so and even you know, I was even happy. I
Speaker 3: had no idea that she was in it, Like Heather
Speaker 3: Legan Camp is in it, and I was so happy
Speaker 3: to see her. You know, just lots of actors that
Speaker 3: you I feel like they're underutilized in film these days,
Speaker 3: and he actually gives them solid roles. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was happy to see it. But it is just yeah,
Speaker 3: it is a great, great film.
Speaker 2: Can't wait seeing that in the Materialists on Saturday. I've
Speaker 2: had my tickets spot. I'm actually going with KB who's
Speaker 2: usually on the show he'll be on probably later tonight
Speaker 2: taking the Wives. It can be a good, good day.
Speaker 2: Can't wait.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear what you think of it.
Speaker 2: I had a just surprisingly decent week for me with movies.
Speaker 2: The first one which is the only like older film
Speaker 2: that's not like a brand new release. I was asked
Speaker 2: to be on the newest episode of the New World
Speaker 2: Pictures podcast not been released yet, but you can hear
Speaker 2: us go into depth on the film. A standalone from
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five. This is a movie that is Charles
Speaker 2: starring Charles Dirning, about a veteran that witnesses a murder.
Speaker 2: You find out and either way it's atrocious. It's a
Speaker 2: fun episode, but good lord, this movie is god awful.
Speaker 2: Standalone is bad, bad bad. Recent watches though, that just
Speaker 2: got released. The Wife and I did a triple feature
Speaker 2: this weekend in the theater, which we don't get to
Speaker 2: do a whole lot. Started off with the happiest film
Speaker 2: ever made, and we watched Bring Her Back. I was
Speaker 2: so excited to see this because I know that, like
Speaker 2: a lot of people love Talk to Me, I didn't
Speaker 2: love Talk to Me, but I really liked it a
Speaker 2: lot I thought it had a really it showed a
Speaker 2: lot of potential for the filmmakers. I truly adored the
Speaker 2: sound design in it. And then Bring Her Back came
Speaker 2: back with a lot of divisive, middling reviews. A lot
Speaker 2: of people kind of hated it. The writing didn't work
Speaker 2: for some people. A lot of people didn't like that
Speaker 2: it was less horror and more like like visceral depression.
Speaker 2: I guess in a way and good. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what to say, like, I don't want to spoil
Speaker 2: too much. This movie is great. I love this way
Speaker 2: more than Bring Her Back. It's still not like a
Speaker 2: five star film or anything, but I really felt this movie.
Speaker 2: Oh did it go up? Ryan? I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Thanks man, I guess the New World Pictures podcast episode
Speaker 2: does check it out. I've been just connected part of
Speaker 2: the pun from the internet most of the day, and
Speaker 2: that is good to hear. Yeah, Bring Her Back has
Speaker 2: two moments in this movie that made me physically fringe
Speaker 2: more than any movie that I've seen in at least
Speaker 2: the last ten to twelve years. Very interesting to see
Speaker 2: where they took the lore on this. They didn't really
Speaker 2: explain a lot, which can be a good thing. I
Speaker 2: think this movie could have been served a little bit
Speaker 2: with some more explanation of what was happening. I'm more
Speaker 2: than happy to leave things up to people's interpretation. This
Speaker 2: thing you needed to sort of explain a little bit,
Speaker 2: like of the process of what we were seeing. And
Speaker 2: if you've if you've seen it, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But man, this movie, this movie is good, and they
Speaker 2: know how to write a goddamn depressing film.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I thought it was great too. Sally Hawkins.
Speaker 2: I was about to say those two words, Sally Hawkins
Speaker 2: is mind blowing in this movie.
Speaker 3: It's like the antithesis of Paddington.
Speaker 2: It is the anti Paddington. And yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2: What's going on? Cubic Clover. Second feature in our double
Speaker 2: feature was the newest Wes Anderson, the Phoenician Scheme. I
Speaker 2: notoriously have not been too high on a lot of
Speaker 2: Wes Anderson since I think the last one I thought
Speaker 2: was like brilliant, brilliant was the Fantastic Mister Fox. I
Speaker 2: have not hated everything or anything like that. It is
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just not my thing. I like,
Speaker 2: I appreciate the ability to like ooze style into your films.
Speaker 2: I just want there to be a little deeper story
Speaker 2: with it, and it's pretty damn surface level with the
Speaker 2: with the style basically taking center stage, and honestly, that
Speaker 2: works for a lot of people, just doesn't work for me.
Speaker 2: I liked the Phoenician scheme. I don't and none of
Speaker 2: them I've not thought any of them are bad movies.
Speaker 2: Wes Anderson is good at what he does. I just
Speaker 2: certainly want a little bit more than what he gave
Speaker 2: was going on RAFA Welcome to the Channel. I loved
Speaker 2: the basketball scene. For anybody that's seen the Venetian Scheme,
Speaker 2: I think it might have been the scene that stole
Speaker 2: the entire film. Cranston and Hanks have incredible chemistry together.
Speaker 2: Put them as the stars of it. I know they're
Speaker 2: giant names, that would be really difficult, but put them
Speaker 2: as like a team up something sort of buddy movie.
Speaker 2: I really think they would give us a really great movie.
Speaker 2: They had just incredible chemistry and Michael Sarah like probably
Speaker 2: the performance of his lifetime, which he's never been bad
Speaker 2: or anything, but he did so well in this thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the highlight for me, and I thought
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, the last Yeah, I liked it
Speaker 3: enough too, But I did think it was one of
Speaker 3: his weaker films. I feel like, especially recently, he's les
Speaker 3: Anderson has overstuffed his casts with so many people who
Speaker 3: are talented and then he basically gives them nothing characters
Speaker 3: like Yeah, so many people are wasted in it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's just a shame. But I guess if he can,
Speaker 3: if you can get the best people, I mean for
Speaker 3: even the smallest role, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing. He's got the cachet to
Speaker 2: have like a mind blowing cast in any other movie.
Speaker 2: This cast alone is oh my god, I have to
Speaker 2: go see this tomorrow. But Wes Anderson, I was like, Eh,
Speaker 2: if I see it the theater, cool, If not, no
Speaker 2: big deal. And then the surprise for me of the weekend,
Speaker 2: I was shocked. I really enjoyed Dangerous Animals and yeah,
Speaker 2: reading my letterbox review, you probably wouldn't think that I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it, But three and a half is pretty
Speaker 2: decent for a film. I went into expecting what we've
Speaker 2: gotten from most shark movies, which this kind of is
Speaker 2: a shark movie, and not really from the last fifteen years,
Speaker 2: which is, hey, there's like two good scenes and the
Speaker 2: rest of the movies kind of man like, really bad acting.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I thought this was actually surprisingly great. Have I don't
Speaker 2: think other than I had to look him up after
Speaker 2: because I could not remember seeing him in anything. But
Speaker 2: I'd never seen Ji Courtney in anything other than The
Speaker 2: Suicide Squad I guess, which I don't even know what
Speaker 2: he did in that movie. I barely remember the movie,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I'd not seen anything else that he's known for.
Speaker 2: This movie, Dangerous Animals is great. This is way more
Speaker 2: of a serial killer movie than a shark movie, which
Speaker 2: they hinted at kind of in the trailers and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. But this is way better than you expect
Speaker 2: it to be. I thought the acting was surprisingly top
Speaker 2: notch through this entire thing. Really solid storyline, a couple
Speaker 2: like ify plot points, but it's a movie you suspend
Speaker 2: your disbelief and everything's good. I think people would enjoy
Speaker 2: this quite a bit. And then random happenstance. We had
Speaker 2: already started to set and print a Q and A
Speaker 2: with the director from mister Jeremy Long and the newest
Speaker 2: issue of The Physical Media Advocate, so I got to
Speaker 2: read that after without any spoilers, it's it's a really
Speaker 2: good movie. I think there was at least like two
Speaker 2: really good scares in this some really great body horror.
Speaker 2: I am not loving the ending, but everything else was
Speaker 2: really really great in this movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree completely with what you just say. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would almost say it's like Wolf Creek with sharks.
Speaker 2: Literally, yes, and also another Aussie film which in Australia
Speaker 2: makes some really great movie.
Speaker 3: And the lead actress, she was excellent, but she looked
Speaker 3: so much like Jennifer Lawrence to me, Yeah, that's all
Speaker 3: I could think. I mean, but she's.
Speaker 2: I was so stoked because, yeah, the same thing. I
Speaker 2: was like, this is good. I had no idea Jennifer
Speaker 2: Lawrence was in this, like they never mentioned it. And
Speaker 2: then she tilted her head. I was like, oh wait,
Speaker 2: that's not her. Yeah she looked great. Yeah, just truly
Speaker 2: great movie. And the big thing I don't want to
Speaker 2: spoil much, but they there's so many voices in Dangerous
Speaker 2: Animals that they could have stopped and not taken it
Speaker 2: any further, and they don't just take it the next
Speaker 2: step that you're like, man, if they really wanted to,
Speaker 2: they could go there. There's two or three things of
Speaker 2: this movie. They go like three steps beyond that. And
Speaker 2: that's where I've really feel like international cinema that is
Speaker 2: not based in the US truly is trumping pun with
Speaker 2: the word there pretty much everything that the US can
Speaker 2: put out when it comes to genre films like this,
Speaker 2: because a serial killer shark movie in the US would
Speaker 2: have held back probably four or five of these scenes
Speaker 2: and just like kind of wuss out or not show
Speaker 2: you all the action or the scenes that happen on
Speaker 2: the boat, which if you've seen it, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Not gonna spoil any of that aspect,
Speaker 2: but yeah, they do not pull back any punches whatsoever
Speaker 2: in this movie. It is so good. Yeah, Yeah, anything
Speaker 2: else you want to talk about before we get into announcements.
Speaker 3: Well I can talk a little bit about a few
Speaker 3: of the things that I've want. Watched it at home
Speaker 3: real quick. Yeah, So, starting I would say a year
Speaker 3: or two ago, I started choosing just randomly different filmmakers
Speaker 3: and then doing a chronological deep dive into into their work.
Speaker 3: I found that it was a really good way of
Speaker 3: sort of getting a clear sense of their growth and
Speaker 3: evolution over over basically their whole filmography. So like last
Speaker 3: year I did, I did Wes Anderson actually and watched
Speaker 3: everything in order, and I found that I really appreciated
Speaker 3: his work better doing it that way than watching just
Speaker 3: each one like when it would be released like each
Speaker 3: year or whatever. And I found that I changed my
Speaker 3: mind on a lot of a lot of his films
Speaker 3: watching him this way. And then I also did the
Speaker 3: same thing with Quentin Tarantino, and I did and inspired
Speaker 3: by You. Actually, I did On Bluth last year, yes,
Speaker 3: watched all of the animated films from him, and then
Speaker 3: so earlier this year I did Mike Lee and watch
Speaker 3: everything from him because I hadn't really seen anything aside
Speaker 3: from Secrets and Lies, so that was good. And then
Speaker 3: right now I'm doing the French filmmaker Eric Romer. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure are you familiar at all with his.
Speaker 2: I've seen nothing. I got to be honest, I don't
Speaker 2: know for sure that I've seen a Mike Lee movie either.
Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh well, he's great. Mike Lee is fantastic,
Speaker 3: And yeah, Eric Romer, I'm really enjoying it. I the
Speaker 3: only one that I had previously seen was Pauline at
Speaker 3: the Beach, and I had seen that back when I
Speaker 3: was a teenager, so like you know, over twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: and so I really didn't remember anything about it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been going through and watching. So a lot of
Speaker 3: his filmography was separated into sort of different serieses. So
Speaker 3: like Criterion released his some of his first feature films
Speaker 3: were in the Six Moral Tales. Oh yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's like six different films and yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I enjoyed all of these. I've seen thirteen so far
Speaker 3: from him, because then there was so this was the
Speaker 3: Six Moral Tales came out in the sixties and seventies,
Speaker 3: and then the six six films that he did in
Speaker 3: the eighties were called Comedies and Proverbs and so, and
Speaker 3: there's some fantastic ones in here, one called The Green
Speaker 3: Ray just completely blew me away, and then another one
Speaker 3: called The Aviator's Wife. But oddly enough, I've liked everything
Speaker 3: I've seen of the thirteen, aside from the one that
Speaker 3: was sort of in between the two series from nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy six, and this had just come out from the
Speaker 3: partner label Benningerson and partner label, The Marquise.
Speaker 2: Of O Nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was the only one that I haven't
Speaker 3: really cared for. It wasn't It didn't throw me. It
Speaker 3: seemed like something that was more like a work for
Speaker 3: hire sort of project for him. It didn't seem like
Speaker 3: it worked with everything else that he's done. But yeah,
Speaker 3: most of his movies are I would say, they're not
Speaker 3: big on plot. They're more about the characters and the
Speaker 3: relationships between the men and women. And I think that
Speaker 3: he just does a really good job of sort of exploring,
Speaker 3: sort of in a thoughtful way, the different Yeah, basically
Speaker 3: the relationship between men and women. They're very heteronormative.
Speaker 2: I'm shocked.
Speaker 3: I think in the thirteen movies, I may have spotted
Speaker 3: one gay couple in the back party scene, and.
Speaker 2: That was an accident. They did not mean for that
Speaker 2: to be there.
Speaker 3: But still, I'm really enjoying them. So the only ones
Speaker 3: that I have left now are he did the Tales
Speaker 3: of Four Seasons and that was another criterion set that
Speaker 3: came out, so I'll be doing those next.
Speaker 2: Very nice. Yeah, stuff like that is so great. I
Speaker 2: really wanted to to deep dive a lot of things,
Speaker 2: and so far the only thing we've done this year
Speaker 2: is Final Destination. The franchise. Not the same thing, not
Speaker 2: not quite on the level of Romey.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, Hey, I love doing a final destination. And
Speaker 3: then quickly I'll just say so my first thought after
Speaker 3: watching this, I had never seen this before, but my
Speaker 3: first thought was that in the eighties, drugs were alive
Speaker 3: and well because the Go Child could only have been
Speaker 3: made this. I don't even know. It was just have
Speaker 3: you seen it? Have you happened to see it?
Speaker 2: I've seen it years and years and years ago. I
Speaker 2: barely remember it. I just remember thinking, so, this is
Speaker 2: like Big Trouble in Little China light and like very
Speaker 2: light essentially.
Speaker 3: It's but I mean it's wild, like it was at
Speaker 3: I mean, it came out in eighty six and came
Speaker 3: out during the holidays, and I guess it was advertised
Speaker 3: as more of a family type movie because it was
Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy's first PG thirteen film. Yeah, but like so
Speaker 3: he plays a wise, cracking caseworker who's like investigating missing
Speaker 3: children and you like see the bodies of missing children anyone.
Speaker 3: It's like it gets dark and then at the same
Speaker 3: time there's like wing demons and there's like Charles Dance
Speaker 3: transforming into a rat and then there's like in one
Speaker 3: scene this like shredded PEPSI can starts dancing to putting
Speaker 3: on the ritz. I just I thought I was hallucinating,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't on any drugs, so I don't even know.
Speaker 3: But I mean I had I enjoyed it, while at
Speaker 3: the same time not really thinking it was very good.
Speaker 3: But I will say the four K looked beautiful. They
Speaker 3: did a great trance, a great restoration on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not pick this one up. I'm still
Speaker 2: considering it and likely will at some point. I think
Speaker 2: I've got most of the vsus except for uh, like
Speaker 2: one maybe, but I mean, yeah, great packages. And it's
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy like he's one of the masters, kind of on.
Speaker 3: It right, right, And then the last one is real quick.
Speaker 3: I yeah, this was something that you know, because I
Speaker 3: love horror so much, I'll oftentimes take a chance on
Speaker 3: just really low budget stuff that I really don't know
Speaker 3: much about, and a lot of times I'm let down.
Speaker 3: But I was very pleasantly surprised by looking at Yes.
Speaker 2: This moved. Have you seen this not yet? I had
Speaker 2: to pick it up. I just barely got it in
Speaker 2: just a little bit of go. But yeah, like I know,
Speaker 2: the guys that did the score and I've heard this
Speaker 2: is incredible.
Speaker 3: It it really impressed me, Like, I mean, yeah, this
Speaker 3: proves like what such a very limited budget and how
Speaker 3: far you can go with it, you know, with the
Speaker 3: resources that you have. So I would say that it's
Speaker 3: it's fully found footage. I would compare it to Man
Speaker 3: Bites Dog and the Poughkeepsie tapes, but in a more
Speaker 3: modern lens, so it's set you know, modern day, and
Speaker 3: I would say, like it gets very dark because it's
Speaker 3: told completely from the point of view of this sort
Speaker 3: of like lurker who's walking around his town and following
Speaker 3: you know, women and looking in their you know windows
Speaker 3: and watching them, and then you know he eventually Grant
Speaker 3: graduates to serial killing and you know, it does get
Speaker 3: very dark, but it doesn't have that like ick factor
Speaker 3: that makes you feel bad afterwards, like right, which I
Speaker 3: think that a lot of those movies do, like probably
Speaker 3: like something like August Underground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's one of them.
Speaker 3: But I was just yeah, it was just so well
Speaker 3: done and and you know, it's a it's definitely a
Speaker 3: slow burn, but I was I was transfixed for all
Speaker 3: eighty minutes of it. It was just it was just fascinating.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I highly recommend that one. And then and
Speaker 3: then the last things that I'll say is just I
Speaker 3: think it was last night. I watched twenty eight days
Speaker 3: later Nice out of print and twenty eight weeks later,
Speaker 3: and I hadn't seen I had seen, I hadn't seen
Speaker 3: twenty eight weeks later since the theater, so it had
Speaker 3: been oh my gosh, eighteen years. I can't believe that
Speaker 3: it's been eighteen years since the sequel.
Speaker 2: Well, before you talk about it, this is perfect time
Speaker 2: to say, hang out for the entire show tonight, because
Speaker 2: after the announcements, we're going over underappreciated sequels. We're both
Speaker 2: going to be sharing five. And I think twenty eight
Speaker 2: weeks later he is genuinely underappreciated sequel.
Speaker 3: I think it's better than the first one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I wouldn't go that far, but.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going there. I feel like, yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like the I like the first one, but I feel
Speaker 3: like it sort of falls apart in the second half
Speaker 3: when they get to that mansion.
Speaker 2: It does slow down a little bit, and.
Speaker 3: It yeah goes in a direction that, yeah, it just
Speaker 3: doesn't really fully work for me. Twenty eight weeks later,
Speaker 3: I just think is more interesting, And yeah, I was surprised,
Speaker 3: Like every everywhere you look there's like these, you know,
Speaker 3: big stars or they've become stars since then, like Jeremy
Speaker 3: Renters in It, Rose burn Iddris Elba, like it's just
Speaker 3: one after the other. You're like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: can't believe. But yeah, I like them both, but I
Speaker 3: do like twenty eight weeks later, just a little bit
Speaker 3: more man.
Speaker 2: The I scene in twenty eight days though, incredible, the
Speaker 2: crow or raven scene, and then the drip and the
Speaker 2: eye Oh yes, oh my gosh, just brilliantly filmed, brilliant.
Speaker 2: All right, are we ready for announcements?
Speaker 3: Then yep, let's good for it.
Speaker 2: Before we do, I do want to say one more thing.
Speaker 2: And I know I'm the one that just said are
Speaker 2: we ready for announcements? But as usual, I'm going to
Speaker 2: say something stupid to make like seventeen people unsubscribed and
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit. So I really hope people
Speaker 2: are paying attention to what is happening around the world
Speaker 2: this weekend. Saturday is going to be a very busy
Speaker 2: day across this country. Specifically, please pay attention and keep
Speaker 2: yourself safe. I've already I've run the local community group
Speaker 2: here in my city, and some of the things that
Speaker 2: I've already seen people post and comment are terrifying me.
Speaker 2: Protests that are happening right now that are ninety nine
Speaker 2: point nine nine nine percent completely safe and something that
Speaker 2: people are standing up for their rights and done in
Speaker 2: a way that should not be questioned, or something that
Speaker 2: we are doubting is being met with opposition that is
Speaker 2: militaristic to a fault. Specifically, the Kansas City governor has
Speaker 2: already ruled or sorry, the Missouri governor has already ruled
Speaker 2: that Kansas City is going to be in a state
Speaker 2: of emergency and deployed our National Guard. Nothing has happened,
Speaker 2: and the National Guard is all the way on their
Speaker 2: way here, and nonehing about that makes sense. I am.
Speaker 2: I'm genuinely worried for what is about to go down
Speaker 2: this weekend. I hope that it is massive thunderstorms and
Speaker 2: DC so we don't see any parades happening, but this
Speaker 2: is going to be a very telling weekend for a
Speaker 2: lot of people. Stay safe, watch out for icy conditions,
Speaker 2: and I hope that everybody's well, that's it, well said.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the keep. This is the Michael Mann
Speaker 2: film that was released for the first time last fall
Speaker 2: in HD by Vinegar Syndrome, and we are seeing what
Speaker 2: is probably going to be the definitive release of this film.
Speaker 2: Everybody saying, why don't we get a director's cut is
Speaker 2: not coming, it doesn't exist. Just let's get past that.
Speaker 2: But this announcement looks kind of incredible. Yes, it is pricey,
Speaker 2: I'm not doubting that, but this thing is another one
Speaker 2: of their giant, heavy ass releases. This thing is twenty
Speaker 2: four by thirty three centimeters waste three kilograms. Jesus comes
Speaker 2: with a color laminated twenty seven by forty inch folded
Speaker 2: print of the original poster, a reprint of the five
Speaker 2: issue comic book series by F. Paul Wilson and Matthew Smith,
Speaker 2: a repro of the original press kit, repro of Lobby Cards,
Speaker 2: hardcover booklet with eighty pages of photographs, original production material,
Speaker 2: new essays, and a reprint of a nineteen eighty four
Speaker 2: Fingo article. We've got a reprint of the first draft script,
Speaker 2: a three D lenticular hard case with all four discs
Speaker 2: for this and then a custom made transparent PVC display
Speaker 2: case with anti scratch lamination Jesus. But the big thing here,
Speaker 2: like there's all kinds of new extras, We've got multiple
Speaker 2: new commentaries. That is all cool and all that, but
Speaker 2: really my pride and joy that I'm excited for is
Speaker 2: you got to go onto Disc three and Disc four.
Speaker 2: Disc three is the documentary a World War two fairy tale,
Speaker 2: the making of Michael Manns to Keep with new interviews
Speaker 2: and featurettes, and then Disc four the Tangerine Dream soundtrack
Speaker 2: on CD that you get to take with you, and
Speaker 2: that is amazing. I am very tempted by this ridiculous release.
Speaker 3: So they just threw it together over a weekend, is
Speaker 3: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yes, for those that remember, Imprint Announcement is announce this
Speaker 2: literally like the weekend that Vinegar Syndrome had theirs go
Speaker 2: on sale to let people know it was coming. So
Speaker 2: we've anticipated this for about eight months. Imprint has clearly
Speaker 2: been working on this for a very long time. This
Speaker 2: is pretty much everything that you could want on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tempting. I have the Vinegar Syndrome one, so
Speaker 3: that's the only reason I wouldn't get it. But I mean,
Speaker 3: there's so much extra stuff here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: They make it hard to decide.
Speaker 2: Do And what makes it even harder to decide is
Speaker 2: if you had the Vinegar Syndrome release with the slipcover,
Speaker 2: which I believe you do, you can sell that thing
Speaker 2: for almost the price of this version on eBay right now,
Speaker 2: which is crazy.
Speaker 3: Wow. But yeah, it had been the first time that
Speaker 3: I when The Vinegar Syndrome came out, that was the
Speaker 3: first time I'd ever seen The Keep, And of course,
Speaker 3: you know it had been built up so much, but
Speaker 3: I also knew about all of the production issues that
Speaker 3: they had, and I think you can clearly see where
Speaker 3: somebody else, like the studio took over for Michaelmannley. I
Speaker 3: feel like the first half is fantastic and so just
Speaker 3: it's like setting itself up to be like something truly special,
Speaker 3: and then I feel like it sort of falls apart
Speaker 3: more in the second half. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: like I admire it so much, I just wish that
Speaker 3: we could sort of go back in time and let
Speaker 3: Michael mann just make the movie that he wanted to make.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree there, So, Yeah, this is a
Speaker 2: ridiculous release of The Keep. And beyond that if you are,
Speaker 2: you know, tempted by print. First of all, I believe
Speaker 2: this is like a little more than halfway there to
Speaker 2: free shipping. Already, they're announcing twenty two films plus a
Speaker 2: TV series tonight. It is going to be a crazy
Speaker 2: night of announcements for Imprint. Those usually come during the show.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about all those next Thursday. Good lord though, craziness,
Speaker 2: all right, Moving right along. One archive posted their announcements
Speaker 2: last week. First is Brainstorm from nineteen sixty five. This
Speaker 2: is a brand new four K scan of the OCN.
Speaker 2: This one is one that I am not at all
Speaker 2: familiar with. It says the most fiendish idea ever conceived
Speaker 2: by the human brain. Not a lot of names with this,
Speaker 2: but it looked like it got some good reviews. Do
Speaker 2: you know this one?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, All eight or nine of the winner archives that
Speaker 3: they announced for this month, I haven't seen any of them.
Speaker 3: But I also like, I get excited each month when
Speaker 3: they announced them, and there's so much that I don't know,
Speaker 3: because yeah, you know, nine high out of ten. If
Speaker 3: I take a chance and pick them up, I end
Speaker 3: up really enjoying them. And it's so many things they Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had no idea of it existed before they were announced,
Speaker 3: so but yeah, I'm interested in most of the stuff
Speaker 3: this month from them.
Speaker 2: Well, and they've really kicked it up a notch, like
Speaker 2: we never saw seven eight titles for yeah, and now
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, let's just open the catalog and throw
Speaker 2: everything out there. Next, this one is Bright Leaf from
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty. Again four K scan of the OCN. This
Speaker 2: one is in black and white. Special features on this
Speaker 2: one we got some classic cartoons Bunker Hill Bunny and
Speaker 2: Hillbilly Hare. This is a Gary Cooper Lauren to call
Speaker 2: Patricia Neil film. Not my style of movie, but again,
Speaker 2: I'm just glad it's gonna be archived properly for everybody.
Speaker 2: Then the one that excited me the most Melinda from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy two. This one says blaxploitation superstars Calvin Lockhart,
Speaker 2: Rosalind Cash, Vaneta mcguh and Jim Kelly take on the
Speaker 2: Mob and the supercharge action packed thriller. You've already got
Speaker 2: me high want in right there, we got a four
Speaker 2: K scan of the OCN. This one will have the
Speaker 2: trailer on it, not much else. I really wish they
Speaker 2: gave some contextual extras, especially for something like this that
Speaker 2: could use it. Blaxploitation itself is really underserved in terms
Speaker 2: of supplemental features. I feel I'm not gonna really lay
Speaker 2: into shout too much right now, but the fact that
Speaker 2: they're putting out two Blaxploitation four K sets with no
Speaker 2: new extras so far is crazy. But yeah, this release
Speaker 2: looks pretty great. Then cinema Scope title. We got Knights
Speaker 2: of the Roundtable from nineteen fifty three Mel Freer Avin
Speaker 2: Gardner in this one again another four K scan of
Speaker 2: the OCN special features. In this one we got an
Speaker 2: intro by Mel Freyr, got newsreel footage of the Galla
Speaker 2: Premiere CinemaScope short MGM Jubilee Overture, and then a another
Speaker 2: CinemaScope cartoon, one Droopy Knight, which normally this would not
Speaker 2: pique my interest too much, but even just seeing the
Speaker 2: CinemaScope properly restored in four K, very curious to check
Speaker 2: this out. Actually, Yeah, moving right along one that I've
Speaker 2: been wanting to see for quite some time. Rachel bell
Speaker 2: Wore wrote about this in an issue of the Physical
Speaker 2: Media Advocate last year. I believe this is the Cobweb
Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty five Richard Woodmark, Lauren MacCall, Charles Boyer,
Speaker 2: Lillian Gish. Also in this one, this has step inside
Speaker 2: the Castle, which is a large private psychiatric facility. Here
Speaker 2: doctor Stewart mckiver, not mcguiver. Mckiver devotes night and day
Speaker 2: to this profession while neglecting his pining, voluptuous wife. A
Speaker 2: colleague with a fondness for booze and a pretty face
Speaker 2: seeks to comfort the wife. Now add Lauren Bacall, Lillian Gish,
Speaker 2: John Kerr, Susan Strasberg, oscar Levant and subplots of love,
Speaker 2: life and derangement, and you have the entanglements of the Cobweb,
Speaker 2: which is supposed to be great.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm easy, but if I hear the movie is
Speaker 3: called the Cobweb, I'm automatically.
Speaker 2: All in already. I love it. This one has a
Speaker 2: CinemaScope short on it salute to the theaters, and then a
Speaker 2: CinemaScope cartoon the Egg and Jerry, plus the trailer, and yes,
Speaker 2: I will be owning this one for sure. Next is
Speaker 2: Two Weeks with Love from Warner Archive. And I don't
Speaker 2: remember if I said at the beginning. These are all
Speaker 2: coming on July twenty ninth, all of them on Blu Ray.
Speaker 2: Reminder that they are only doing Blu Ray for the
Speaker 2: most part, most of their titles will not be four K,
Speaker 2: even though this one is yet again a four K
Speaker 2: scan of the OCN. This is one with Ricardo Montabon
Speaker 2: and Jane Powell. This one will have real memories with
Speaker 2: Jane Powell in the interview with Robert Osborne. We got
Speaker 2: classic short subjects, Crashing the Mud, the movies, screen actors,
Speaker 2: classic text, every cartoon, Garden Gopher, and then the trailer,
Speaker 2: which I'm glad there's quite a bit in there. Next
Speaker 2: up The Prisoner of Zenda. This is from nineteen fifty two.
Speaker 2: Lots of fifties titles. This month, another four K scan
Speaker 2: of the OCENA. This one has the nineteen twenty two
Speaker 2: silent version of this with Lewis Stone and Alice Terry,
Speaker 2: an audio only radio broadcast, Lux Radio Theater with Ronald
Speaker 2: Coleman and Douglas Fairbanks Junior, and then screen Director's Playhouse
Speaker 2: with Coleman and John Cromwell. I'm just glad they're throwing
Speaker 2: some extras on there this.
Speaker 3: Month, and all I can all I can see is
Speaker 3: the Legend of Zelda.
Speaker 2: When I see that, yeah, I thought the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: And then the one that I think excited people the most.
Speaker 2: They Died with their Boots On from nineteen forty one.
Speaker 2: This is coming the same day. This is a Aero
Speaker 2: Flynn and Olivia Halin title. We've got a black and
Speaker 2: white film and special features. We got Leonard Malton hosting
Speaker 2: Warner Knight of the Movies nineteen forty two at the
Speaker 2: newsreel military short Soldiers in White, a cartoon called a
Speaker 2: Tale of Two Kiddies All through the Night trailer, and
Speaker 2: then a featurette they Died their boots On to Hell
Speaker 2: or Glory, plus the trailer. Lots of stuff coming out
Speaker 2: from one of archive. Then premiered last weekend Ballerina from
Speaker 2: the World of John Wick, which I'm so, I don't
Speaker 2: know confused while we're why we're including from the World
Speaker 2: of X in titles now like The Jigsaw or whatever
Speaker 2: it was called, the from the World of Jigsaw. We
Speaker 2: didn't need that come well.
Speaker 3: I will say I saw this last week and that's
Speaker 3: not on the screen ever, Like it's just called Ballerina.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, so so I don't I don't even consider
Speaker 3: that part of the title because it's not it's not
Speaker 3: in the movie proper.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyways, the only reason they're doing that is because they
Speaker 3: want I mean, obviously they want as many people as
Speaker 3: possible to come. And you know, if they see that
Speaker 3: it's just called Ballerina.
Speaker 2: That's the thing in twenty twenty five. Who's going to
Speaker 2: a theater just based off of a title? I know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, but I will, I will see. I
Speaker 3: thought it was pretty good. Yeah, I actually liked it.
Speaker 2: I wanted to see it last weekend. Unfortunately I still
Speaker 2: haven't seen all the John Wick titles, so I declined.
Speaker 2: This is coming soon in a Walmart exclusive four kse
Speaker 2: steel book in the US from the Lionsgate and so
Speaker 2: that is your option here, and if that is not
Speaker 2: something that is appeasing you, you can head on over
Speaker 2: to Amazon and get this Amazon exclusive four K steel book.
Speaker 2: This one is another Lion's Gate title. Kind of crazy
Speaker 2: to have two different retailer exclusive titles, but it's John
Speaker 2: Wick and that franchise, which is literally probably the most
Speaker 2: milked title from the last ten twelve years from any
Speaker 2: franchise there are so many releases of the first John
Speaker 2: Wick film, It is wild. Next up, Late Night with
Speaker 2: the Devil from last year is getting a four K
Speaker 2: Stel book here in the US from Shutter. It is
Speaker 2: decent looking steel book. I don't think I've ever heard
Speaker 2: from you what you thought of this, because I'm sure
Speaker 2: you saw this one. Would you think, oh yeah?
Speaker 3: So I like it a lot, but I have one
Speaker 3: problem with it. It it opens This isn't like really
Speaker 3: a spoiler, but it opens with sort of documentary footage
Speaker 3: sort of.
Speaker 2: This is my problem too.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, basically you know, telling the origin of
Speaker 3: you know, the talk show and this host, and you
Speaker 3: know how he came to have this show, and then
Speaker 3: it naturally should have an ending that basically is a
Speaker 3: book to that tells you what happens after the show
Speaker 3: that you know the movie is based on. And it doesn't.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it drops the ball because if
Speaker 3: it's if it's you know, pretending to be you know,
Speaker 3: an episode of a late night show from the seventies
Speaker 3: or whenever you know it's set, then naturally history would
Speaker 3: tell you what happened after the show was over, and
Speaker 3: it doesn't tell you that. And so I feel like
Speaker 3: it's it. It sort of leaves you with an unsatisfied feeling,
Speaker 3: even though what's there I really like, but I just yeah,
Speaker 3: is that? Is that what you were going to say that?
Speaker 2: And like the the other bookend is a problem obviously,
Speaker 2: but the mixing of the conceits like you start off
Speaker 2: making it look like you're actually filming in the seventies
Speaker 2: with this old school camera style, and then they quickly,
Speaker 2: very quickly give up on that, and the found footage
Speaker 2: can see is like, oh, we're filming backstage in the
Speaker 2: seventies with this massive HD camera that will immediately pull
Speaker 2: you out. We don't get all of the filtering that
Speaker 2: they wanted, and it feels, I don't know, so like disjointed.
Speaker 2: And that stuck out to me a lot as somebody
Speaker 2: that really likes fund footage. And actually we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about fan footage in just a minute. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: didn't love this movie. I thought it was the story
Speaker 2: was good, and the performance is fine. Nothing against that
Speaker 2: just could have been so much better.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll agree with that.
Speaker 2: Next up one that I've heard is really fun. July
Speaker 2: twenty second Blu Range DVD releasing in the us of
Speaker 2: Fight or Flight with Josh Hartnett. This is coming from
Speaker 2: Vertical Entertainment, no special features. From what I can see,
Speaker 2: you can pre order this now no four K, although
Speaker 2: this is the type of title that screams to me,
Speaker 2: we'll get a German four K. So if you liked
Speaker 2: this movie, I would wait like a good four or
Speaker 2: five months if you're really holding out for that. I
Speaker 2: have a feeling like Turbine would would be the ones
Speaker 2: to rescue something like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, I'm so happy for Josh Hartnett, like, yes,
Speaker 3: Mac after all these years and getting lots of good
Speaker 3: roles again and he's just yeah, he's so good in this.
Speaker 2: So Sibner is asking, stuck in a locked room, are
Speaker 2: we watching Late Night with the Devil or in a
Speaker 2: Violent Nature? What do you what? Are you picking dustin.
Speaker 3: In a Violent Nature? Because I actually really liked that movie,
Speaker 3: and I know you don't like it, but I'm a
Speaker 3: big fan of it.
Speaker 2: I will watch Late Night with the Devil in a
Speaker 2: heartbeat over in a Violent Nature. I will never watch
Speaker 2: that or the sequel ever again. This one is you.
Speaker 3: Gotta give it one more chance.
Speaker 2: Come on, I have the Friday the thirteenth video game.
Speaker 2: I'll just go play that. This one is really interesting.
Speaker 2: You can get this now. It's not a pre order
Speaker 2: or anything like that, but it is a BDR released
Speaker 2: as a self release title of cap In Dimo Versus
Speaker 2: the cow Master. That title alone, mixed with the art
Speaker 2: that those that are watching live can see is wild.
Speaker 2: But let's go through this real quick. So Captain Dimo
Speaker 2: Versus the Cow Master is a fond homage to the
Speaker 2: weekly movie serials of the thirties, forties, and fifties. It
Speaker 2: follows the exploits of Captain Dimo, a hero no secret identity.
Speaker 2: He is always Captain Dimo. Along with the sidekick Cuffey,
Speaker 2: he sets out to right the wrongs of the city
Speaker 2: he calls home. Trouble and danger arrive suddenly, when a
Speaker 2: fiendish archvillain, the cow Master, invades the city and begins
Speaker 2: a reign of terror and vandalism to gain power and
Speaker 2: ultimately rule the world. It is up to Captain Dimo
Speaker 2: to thwart his evil designs, if only he can so.
Speaker 2: Now the other aspect of this that makes it super interesting.
Speaker 2: This action comedy was filmed in Massachusetts on sixteen millimeter
Speaker 2: black and white film all the way back in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy six, and though the shooting wasn't finished until seventy
Speaker 2: seven or sorry, the shooting was finished in seventy seven,
Speaker 2: it had never actually been completed. They never finished the
Speaker 2: movie until last year time and funds became available and
Speaker 2: post production finally began. In twenty nineteen. They did a
Speaker 2: film out transfer in two K digital. This long gest
Speaker 2: dating film ended its epic road to completion in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four and is now ready to premiere, almost fifty
Speaker 2: years after his actually first shot. So the disc is
Speaker 2: going to include a cast and crew commentary, It's got
Speaker 2: the directors talking about it at the film premiere, a trailer,
Speaker 2: three ft feature restaurant behind the scenes. But there are
Speaker 2: some names with this that people would recognize. The biggest
Speaker 2: one Larry Blumir is a part of this, and Bob
Speaker 2: Gifford is the director. It's a labor of love. The
Speaker 2: fact that they put so much work into this is
Speaker 2: just crazy that they were able to pull it off.
Speaker 2: I am so stoked. This is one I definitely want
Speaker 2: to check out.
Speaker 3: So is the director? Is the director still alive?
Speaker 2: I believe everybody is somehow, so alive. Oh wow, crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Bob Gifford was there for the premiere and everything.
Speaker 3: So was he able to was he personally able to
Speaker 3: finish it? Then?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, this is all done in house like this
Speaker 2: is just some dudes that are still friends fifty years
Speaker 2: later that filmed everything then and they put it together
Speaker 2: and finished the movie.
Speaker 3: Oh wow yeah yeah, I might be interested in this too.
Speaker 2: If you are looking forward to this, check it out.
Speaker 2: This is so funny. Captain Captain Dimo is the I
Speaker 2: can't even say the title Captain di Move versus the
Speaker 2: Cowmaster dot com. I'm shocked that they could get that
Speaker 2: url that wasn't taken the trailer. Give it a watch.
Speaker 2: I think it's worth it. If you are into it,
Speaker 2: you will be very happy. Uh. Next, Keino announced that
Speaker 2: coming soon on Blu ray The Wrong Arm of the
Speaker 2: Law from nineteen sixty three. It's got a four K
Speaker 2: restoration from Studio Canal in twenty twenty three. It is
Speaker 2: Michael Caine Peter Sellers that has incredible reviews, but not
Speaker 2: one I have ever had a chance to see. But
Speaker 2: I mean, can't really go wrong with Sellers and Michael Kane.
Speaker 2: This one I had never heard of this.
Speaker 3: Did you see the Actor now?
Speaker 2: Okay? So Dkel on July fifteenth is releasing The Actor,
Speaker 2: which premiered the last year, and this says. In this
Speaker 2: existential romance, New York actor Paul Cole finds himself stranded
Speaker 2: in a mysterious small town with no memory of who
Speaker 2: he is or how he got here. With no sense
Speaker 2: of identity or purpose, he starts from scratch and begins
Speaker 2: courting a local costume designer, Edna. As bits and pieces
Speaker 2: of his past slowly emerged, he attempts to find his
Speaker 2: way home. Has anybody seen this? I would love to
Speaker 2: hear that if this is good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't even Yeah, I hadn't heard of it
Speaker 3: before this announcement. I mean it sounds really intriguing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sinner says. It's called The Majestic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a less action y version of The Borne Identity.
Speaker 2: Just kidding. I'd be interested in seeing it, all right.
Speaker 2: Kenos soon are releasing the second Twin from nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 2: This's got a four K restoration by Studio Canal. This
Speaker 2: is also called The Other Truth and continues their reign
Speaker 2: of films from this era. In this part of the world.
Speaker 2: I'm sure this is one that you've not had a
Speaker 2: chance to catch.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen those one.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody in the world has ever seen this.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad Keno's releasing. Lionsgate Limited pissed off some
Speaker 2: people this week with their announcements, which a lot of
Speaker 2: people were happy with them. But this is you know,
Speaker 2: always going to be a problem with the lions Gate
Speaker 2: Limited when they are going to be exclusive to their site.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it on the first release. This
Speaker 2: is July fifteenth, a four K release from lions Gate
Speaker 2: of Frailty from two thousand and one. This is Bill
Speaker 2: Paxton's directorial debut. Is rather good and in this release
Speaker 2: not a steel book. By the way, a lot of
Speaker 2: people see lines Gate Limited and they immediately assume steel book.
Speaker 2: Not a steel book. You get a four K with
Speaker 2: Dolby Vision, brand new art that looks really good. There's
Speaker 2: the big thing to me printed reproduction of Bill Paxson's
Speaker 2: original shooting script, which is crazy. They wanted to point
Speaker 2: out that they were incredibly lucky to have access to
Speaker 2: Bill Paxson's original shooting script, a rare and meaningful opportunity
Speaker 2: that offered a direct window in his creative process. We
Speaker 2: did our best to preserve the authenticity of the document
Speaker 2: in this booklet, keeping elements like the upside down pages
Speaker 2: and the original notes, even when they stretched beyond standard margins.
Speaker 2: Despite these challenges, were thrilled for fans to experience this
Speaker 2: piece of film history and to witness the Karen heart
Speaker 2: that Bill poured into the project. They've got a bunch
Speaker 2: of legacy features on here and then brand new features
Speaker 2: Father Figure, establishing shot with David Blocker, more stories from
Speaker 2: the Frailty set, a teaser, and a theatrical trailer. This
Speaker 2: looks like a really cool release, but again limited to
Speaker 2: the lines Gate Limited website, not gonna be anywhere else.
Speaker 3: That's pretty insane that they are actually including Yeah, Bill
Speaker 3: Paxton's shooting script in each copy, like that's yeah. When
Speaker 3: I saw this, I instantly pre ordered it. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm a little bit mixed on the lions Gate
Speaker 3: Limited stuff, like especially well, I think one that's coming
Speaker 3: up soon, like the the vestaurants moving over there. But
Speaker 3: I will say that, I mean, so far everything that
Speaker 3: I've gotten has been really high qualities.
Speaker 2: So oh agree, yeah, it's lines Gate. It better be
Speaker 2: at this point. Uh. Jaden says, I wish they had
Speaker 2: a free shipping threshold. They do, it's a one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars uh, they just don't advertise it. Free shipping starts
Speaker 2: at a hundred Bucksteed. The hard part is for a
Speaker 2: lot of like with lines Gate limited, they are they
Speaker 2: are genuinely limited, and so after a while they will
Speaker 2: be out of print and you can't get these anymore.
Speaker 2: But the big thing is they're releasing good titles, and
Speaker 2: that's why people are pissed is these could do well
Speaker 2: on Amazon, at Walmart, on you know, selling a diabolic
Speaker 2: everywhere if lines Gate made their stuff available everywhere. But
Speaker 2: if you're like buying stuff as they announce them, they're
Speaker 2: only announcing maybe at most three times, not sorry, three titles,
Speaker 2: not the times, but usually it's one or two, and
Speaker 2: that unless something stays in stock that you want, you're
Speaker 2: not going to get up to that one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: price point. So that is that is a tough thing.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, if it's a title you love,
Speaker 2: like a lot of people love Frailty, you don't want
Speaker 2: to miss out on it, do you?
Speaker 3: Have a theory on why they've moved to this limited
Speaker 3: sort of you know, like I mean unless you're really
Speaker 3: in know, like you know, like us with with physical media,
Speaker 3: like a lot of people would never know that this exists, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, they would never know to go to that
Speaker 3: website unless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. I genuinely think this is literally only
Speaker 2: rooted in money. And I'm not saying it's necessarily about greed.
Speaker 2: I think they probably did like a cost assessment and
Speaker 2: found out that when they released stuff on Amazon or
Speaker 2: in Walmart, they don't they're maybe they're not even able
Speaker 2: to recoup all the costs. A lot of the stuff
Speaker 2: is semi expensive. I mean, reproducing a shooting script costs
Speaker 2: a lot of money for sure. As somebody that's done
Speaker 2: stuff like that behind the scenes, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 2: And now, like I don't know, a title like this
Speaker 2: is different. I feel like it would have done well
Speaker 2: and maybe lines Get Limited could have had the shooting
Speaker 2: script and release it widely as a standard edition. That
Speaker 2: would have been fine. So this this sucks, Like there's
Speaker 2: so many people that that could could appreciate this and
Speaker 2: they don't get a chance to see it. Give us
Speaker 2: a standard edition.
Speaker 3: Right, I have one more question about this. I think
Speaker 3: it was the first lions Gate limited release that they did.
Speaker 3: It was the Conversation in four K. Yep, do you
Speaker 3: think they're gonna do a more regular edition of that
Speaker 3: down the line? It's no bulky like I want that
Speaker 3: so bad, but I just I've been holding out because
Speaker 3: because yeah, it's just like I don't need all of
Speaker 3: the extra stuff that's with it, you know.
Speaker 2: I agree fully. The hard part is I would suggest
Speaker 2: people go for the Studio Canal standard that they released
Speaker 2: over in the UK. You can get it for like
Speaker 2: thirty bucks. Diabolic is carrying it. Orbit carries it. It
Speaker 2: may not be in stock right now, but absolutely to
Speaker 2: give a middle finger to this, Lion's Gate doesn't deserve
Speaker 2: it for something like that. Completely agree, it's expensive and
Speaker 2: it's not worth it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do that. I actually I had forgotten about
Speaker 3: the Studio Canal version.
Speaker 2: So yep, A look at that. Mozart's ghost was saying
Speaker 2: that UK got the regular edition. For the conversation, somebody
Speaker 2: was asking I missed a couple things about Lionsgate here.
Speaker 2: Totally get the argument against lions to get limited, but
Speaker 2: they're getting me. That makes sense. Ryan totally get it.
Speaker 2: Jaden says, it's kind of crazy that one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: is legit. Four restaurant titles. Now, what's worse is, like,
Speaker 2: I understand the sentiment here because suddenly Vestron was in
Speaker 2: Walmart for twelve bucks and everybody went crazy. So many
Speaker 2: people weren't buying restaurant titles for the first four years
Speaker 2: that they were out there. The first eighteen restaurant titles
Speaker 2: were released at thirty dollars and never went on sale.
Speaker 2: It took until number nineteen in the restaurant titles for
Speaker 2: them to start lowering the prices. And so it used
Speaker 2: to be three and a half restaurant titles and you
Speaker 2: should be happy now that it's only four. Wellshit, come on,
Speaker 2: you own the rights to these. These should not be
Speaker 2: that expensive. Lions Gate that is so not worth it.
Speaker 2: Keith is saying, how limited are are they? Not? Just
Speaker 2: the slip of the release itself, so they don't advertise this.
Speaker 2: But I believe, based on what I've read on the
Speaker 2: forums is that it's for the most part ten thousand,
Speaker 2: especially the Steel books. But there's a couple of them
Speaker 2: that went a little faster, And the only way that
Speaker 2: we're knowing the inventory is if you do the browser
Speaker 2: trick to go look at the inventory, and even then
Speaker 2: they're adding stuff after the first print run, so basically
Speaker 2: like they get replenished at their warehouse once and then
Speaker 2: it goes out of print and it's hard to keep
Speaker 2: track of it's rough and gary. No, you can't get
Speaker 2: this from Diabolic. Diabolic will not have it, Orbit will
Speaker 2: not have it. Nobody else will have it unless Jesse
Speaker 2: from Diabolic goes and buys them full price from Lionsgate
Speaker 2: because they're not doing wholesale on these, and then sells
Speaker 2: them to you for like a five or six dollars
Speaker 2: markup at least. And at that point, if you really
Speaker 2: want it, you should just get it from Lionsgate Limited.
Speaker 2: But the way to push back on stuff like this
Speaker 2: is just not buy them. It's hard. I totally get it,
Speaker 2: especially if you love the titles like Frail T four
Speaker 2: K Is that going to happen elsewhere? Probably not? Sucks.
Speaker 2: And then if that's not enough from lines Gate Limited. Yes,
Speaker 2: like we alluded to, Goolies three aka Goolies Go to
Speaker 2: College from nineteen ninety is number thirty four in the
Speaker 2: Vestron Video collection twenty five dollars from the lines Gate
Speaker 2: Limited line too expensive. This should have been cheaper than that.
Speaker 2: That is ridiculous, especially after they've released triple features for
Speaker 2: like twelve dollars. That is crazy. This is for the
Speaker 2: first time anywhere on Blu Ray. There may have been
Speaker 2: like a gray market release in Germany or something. This
Speaker 2: is going to have an audio commentary with TJ. Bowser
Speaker 2: Paul Ashford of Project Louder Mister Carter goes to College,
Speaker 2: Goolies and gags behind the screenplay of Goolies go to College,
Speaker 2: out of the Bowl making the monsters and then trailers
Speaker 2: in a stills gallery. I'm glad this is getting a release.
Speaker 2: Everybody is like, why not four K? Vestron is still
Speaker 2: never released a four K, so probably not gonna happen
Speaker 2: anytime soon. I think if they were going to do it,
Speaker 2: they would have done it for some of the other titles.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I love the tagline out of the Bowl
Speaker 3: and totally out of control.
Speaker 2: Ghulies. Yeah, Craig is saying. I feel like I should
Speaker 2: point out the expectation of free instant shipping is a
Speaker 2: very new thing. It only exists because of Amazon. I
Speaker 2: wasn't even talking about the shipping honestly, although I guess
Speaker 2: I should point out the shittiest thing about Lionsgate Limited
Speaker 2: is that it's only available to the US. They don't
Speaker 2: ship anywhere else in the world. So if somebody loves
Speaker 2: Goolies three and wants it on Blu Ray for the
Speaker 2: first time, now, if you don't live in the US,
Speaker 2: you're just screwed. You can't get it. Sucks. That was
Speaker 2: not the final title. Oh did you want to say
Speaker 2: more about gooleis go ahea? Oh?
Speaker 3: No, no, okay. I was looking at the chat and
Speaker 3: somebody mentioned there's a Goalies four, and I'm not sure
Speaker 3: I even knew there was a four.
Speaker 2: There is a fourth one, and it still doesn't have
Speaker 2: a Blu Ray anywhere. The last title also coming on
Speaker 2: July fifteenth. This is a four K of The Surfer.
Speaker 2: This is the Nicholas Cage film that just came out.
Speaker 2: I think this got a wide release in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: but played like some select premieres in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: This is gonna have Dolby Vision, got an audio commentary
Speaker 2: with the director, and then I'm making of and a trailer.
Speaker 2: I've heard this is great. Did you get a chance
Speaker 2: to see this one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I saw it.
Speaker 2: What'd you think?
Speaker 3: I was not a fan of it. Yeah, I know
Speaker 3: that a lot of people really liked it. It's very
Speaker 3: typically I like that, it's very surreal. I would say,
Speaker 3: I typically I like that in a movie. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't want to give too much away, but basically,
Speaker 3: like the setup is that, Yeah, Nicholas, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know what the premises, but Nicholas Cage is
Speaker 3: like a businessman who he used to live on the
Speaker 3: beach as a child, and he has really great memories
Speaker 3: of it, and he wants to buy a beach house
Speaker 3: on the beach where he grew up. And he has
Speaker 3: like a teenage son, so he sort of wants to
Speaker 3: connect with him, and he like runs into Yeah, these
Speaker 3: these surfer it's like a surfer gang who don't want
Speaker 3: him anywhere near their turf, and he like gets basically
Speaker 3: he gets stranded in in like the parking lot of
Speaker 3: this beach area, and basically the whole movie is is
Speaker 3: more or less said in this parking lot. And I
Speaker 3: just kept wondering, like when is he give up this dream?
Speaker 3: Like leave, go home, and he just will not leave.
Speaker 3: This plays so it's almost and then and then you
Speaker 3: have to start wondering, like is he in hell? Is
Speaker 3: it like a metaphor for that? Like, because it goes
Speaker 3: so far out of reality that it just has you
Speaker 3: questioning exactly what's going on. I found it really interesting
Speaker 3: but also frustrating. But I will say Nicholas Cage, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he gives another great unhinged performance.
Speaker 2: So Jason from the Force five podcast is here. He says,
Speaker 2: it's wild. The meme ability of this film is insane.
Speaker 2: I've heard it's surreal. I've really done see it. Uh.
Speaker 2: Then he says, wasn't exactly my cup of tease a hole?
Speaker 2: But Cage is awesome, isn't he always? Isn't he always?
Speaker 2: So yeah, this looks like a great release if you're
Speaker 2: into it. I believe this is the only four K
Speaker 2: release of this film that's been announced worldwide, and the
Speaker 2: UK release has already been announced, so probably not getting
Speaker 2: another four K. And supposedly, I'm sure you could attest
Speaker 2: to it. Supposedly the this are amazing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And the majority of it is set in
Speaker 3: the daytime really like sort of like a sun bleached
Speaker 3: look to it. Yeah, it'll really pop nice nice.
Speaker 2: Hey. We just talked about this before we went into
Speaker 2: the announcements, But the newest issue of the Physical Media
Speaker 2: Advocate is out and put a lot of work into
Speaker 2: this one. I'm super proud of this cover. Planet Mondo
Speaker 2: killed it with this, and it goes with our featured
Speaker 2: article this month, which is on the Physics of Cinema,
Speaker 2: which I think is just really really fun, great stuff.
Speaker 2: I got a piece on the Devils the Dark, Peter Lorie,
Speaker 2: Dangerous Animals, a bunch of other stuff, another edition of
Speaker 2: bad movie Posters, some some puzzle work, and yeah, fun
Speaker 2: issue and I'm very very excited for people to see
Speaker 2: what comes out of July. Gonna be a good one. Friendship,
Speaker 2: What did you think of Friendship?
Speaker 3: There, Dustin, It's grown on me since i've seen it.
Speaker 3: Like I when I first when it first ended, I
Speaker 3: didn't know quite what to think of it because it
Speaker 3: sort of really doesn't offer up many easy answers at
Speaker 3: the end and sort of makes you, even though it's
Speaker 3: a comedy, it sort of makes you feel bad. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: and it makes you feel sad for the character. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, like set since I've seen it,
Speaker 3: I just keep coming back to so many different scenes
Speaker 3: and lines in it and just the insanity of it.
Speaker 3: And also it's so cringe like, but I love I
Speaker 3: love cringe humor. Same.
Speaker 2: Have you watched Tim Robinson stuff outside of this?
Speaker 3: I was, I was unfamiliar with him.
Speaker 2: Wow, you should probably watch at least a few episodes
Speaker 2: if I think you should leave on Netflix. He is
Speaker 2: so good, so good.
Speaker 3: And I will say, in addition to him, like and
Speaker 3: and Paul Rudd, I thought Kate Merrow was really good
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, quite good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing with yeah, I won't give it away,
Speaker 3: but the whole thing with the tunnel is just insane.
Speaker 2: Where's your mom in the sewers? So yeah, Friendship coming
Speaker 2: on Blu ray from A twenty four in August. I
Speaker 2: love this movie. I thought it was great. I've also
Speaker 2: really loved Tim Robinson for a while. Anybody that doesn't
Speaker 2: seen Detroiter should watch that as well. It's really good,
Speaker 2: very similar style. I think you would appreciate it a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this movie was just so good. This will have a
Speaker 2: director commentary on it. The DP is also on the commentary.
Speaker 2: Conormalley's on it. It's got some deleted scenes. There's an extended
Speaker 2: Q and A from men talking in the Dark Conra Omalley,
Speaker 2: extended garage scene. I believe they said it was fourteen
Speaker 2: minutes long on this, which is wild. And then they've
Speaker 2: got six collectible collectible postcards. That being said, I don't
Speaker 2: love what A twenty four is doing with their releases.
Speaker 2: I feel like they could give so much more to
Speaker 2: these films. I'm glad that they're sort of doing it
Speaker 2: themselves and got their own unique style and all that,
Speaker 2: but man, the supplemental features could be better. And we
Speaker 2: don't need the postcards. Save the money on the postcards
Speaker 2: and do either nothing and save I don't know, drop
Speaker 2: the price by two bucks, but just we don't need
Speaker 2: six cards from Friendship. Come on, let's see everybody's happy.
Speaker 2: Friendship is a movie that I enjoyed in the moment,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it worked for me as well
Speaker 2: as many of its fans. Says Terry. Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: you've really got to be all in on that cringe
Speaker 2: humor to be super thrilled with it. I have never
Speaker 2: seen this, but man, what I've read this week is
Speaker 2: making me dying to see it in August.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to see this one and never have either.
Speaker 2: It looks so good. August twenty sixth, Studio canal Over
Speaker 2: in the UK giving us a blu ray of Fresh
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety four. This is a movie start during Gean, Carlosposito,
Speaker 2: Samuel L. Jackson. We've got brand new interviews with some
Speaker 2: people from the film, quite a few brand new interviews actually,
Speaker 2: and then some archival pieces and again I don't know,
Speaker 2: I've never seen this heard it's great and dying to
Speaker 2: see it. Very very eager. Brian says, Fresh is very good.
Speaker 2: First sat on laser disc. Imprint also did this one.
Speaker 2: I think Imprint did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the Imprint No way.
Speaker 2: Interesting, I don't remember that at all. Music Box Films
Speaker 2: on June twenty fourth, which for the record is only
Speaker 2: in twelve days. Very quick announcement here they're releasing ephis
Speaker 2: from this year, which I had heard was getting a release,
Speaker 2: but I don't think displayed anywhere near me. This is
Speaker 2: supposed to be pretty good, this says. As an imminent
Speaker 2: construction project looms over their beloved baseball field, two New
Speaker 2: England recreational teams playball for the last time. As day
Speaker 2: turned into night and innings bleed together, the players chat, laugh,
Speaker 2: and squabble as they face the uncertainty of a new
Speaker 2: era named for a rare curveball Carson LUNs poignant comedies
Speaker 2: and oda sports community in the Passage of Time, and
Speaker 2: I really want to check this one out. The trailer
Speaker 2: for this looked really good.
Speaker 3: I've heard from people who have seen it at different
Speaker 3: film festivals that it is really good.
Speaker 2: Nice, very nice. We talked about this a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, so we won't spend a lot of time here.
Speaker 2: But August twelfth, Kino is doing that standalone release of
Speaker 2: nineteen forty nine's The Great Gatsby. It's got all the
Speaker 2: same extras as will be on the disc that's coming
Speaker 2: in their Film Noir box set. I think that one's
Speaker 2: in number twenty seven, twenty six or twenty seven. Good lord,
Speaker 2: they've done so many box sets.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that is that is the same one as this.
Speaker 2: Exact same disc, So if you're planning on getting the
Speaker 2: box set, you don't need to worry about getting this
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in for the last twenty five, so
Speaker 3: I guess I gotta cu.
Speaker 2: You gotta stop now, please, I draw the line at
Speaker 2: twenty five film noir.
Speaker 3: I never, I never when I started collecting them at
Speaker 3: the beginning. I never, in my wildest dreams would have
Speaker 3: thought that they would keep going. And now it's stuck.
Speaker 2: And I know that we've joked about this every time,
Speaker 2: but now that they are so close to the thirtieth one,
Speaker 2: they have to do something silly with box xxxx right,
Speaker 2: like you have to do like a box of neo
Speaker 2: noir rock thrillers or something. Please please make it work.
Speaker 2: Speaking to Keno, August twelfth, they're giving us a Blu
Speaker 2: Ray of Save the Tiger from nineteen seventy three. This
Speaker 2: one was also released by Imprint. Speaking of how we
Speaker 2: just talked about that, this one will have the audio
Speaker 2: commentary with the director and the writer producer. We'll also
Speaker 2: have a new audio commentary with Dwayne Epstein. Nothing else
Speaker 2: on this but those two audio commentaries. But this one
Speaker 2: should be available pretty cheap. And I believe this is
Speaker 2: the first Blu Ray release of this in the States,
Speaker 2: if I remember right. So pretty exciting for people that
Speaker 2: love this movie. And Jack Lemon, like the dude's always great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one that I've yeah, I've always wanted
Speaker 3: to see and did did Imprint do a Jack Lemon
Speaker 3: box set? I don't think so, Okay, I feel like
Speaker 3: I I yeah, I don't think so either, But I yeah,
Speaker 3: because I thought that I had this, but maybe I
Speaker 3: never got it from Imprint. But so if I don't,
Speaker 3: I'll get this one.
Speaker 2: Ooh. It says out of stock on the Imprint site,
Speaker 2: so this one might be out of print from them.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh and they also that's right, they did
Speaker 2: the Odd Couple as well, which is the other big
Speaker 2: Jack Lemon thing. Uh, there you go. Paul from Australia's
Speaker 2: Imprint has not done a Jack Lemon set. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Next another keynot title. August twelfth, they are doing a
Speaker 2: pre Code Classics double feature set. This one include Confessions
Speaker 2: of a co Ed and Ladies of the Big House,
Speaker 2: both from nineteen thirty one. This is going to have
Speaker 2: a new audio commentary with David del Val and Stan Schaeffer,
Speaker 2: and that's on both films. So that's pretty cool. I
Speaker 2: like this idea that they're doing some pre code sets,
Speaker 2: probably the only way that we would get some of
Speaker 2: these released. A lot of times they're not even like
Speaker 2: a full hour long, and to be able to get
Speaker 2: this released like this, you sort of got to do
Speaker 2: something to cut some cost and so I get that.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that they're doing an audio commentary on both sets,
Speaker 2: but yeah, this is pretty cool and eventually I will
Speaker 2: probably pick this up. Pre code stuff give us more. Next,
Speaker 2: Shameless over in the UK is putting out What Have
Speaker 2: They Done to Your Daughters? From nineteen seventy four. This
Speaker 2: is coming on July seventh. There are at least one
Speaker 2: new feature I believe, yes, I don't think everything else
Speaker 2: is new, but this says the unused hardcore footage from
Speaker 2: Enigma editor Siciliano reveals all and they really hype it
Speaker 2: up here, he says. This edition also includes a frank
Speaker 2: interview with the film editor Antonio Siciliano, Dalamano's longtime friend
Speaker 2: and collaborator who crafted the final cut of Daughters. He
Speaker 2: finally addresses the long standing rumors about the film's unused
Speaker 2: additional material, which that alone entices me. I don't think
Speaker 2: that was on the Arrow release, which is sort of compelling,
Speaker 2: and honestly, kudos to Shameless. This is the first time
Speaker 2: I've seen the Shameless announcement and gone, wow, I kind
Speaker 2: of want that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the arrow of the Yeah, this is
Speaker 3: a great Giallo. Yeah, I'm a really big fan of
Speaker 3: this and sort of the pseudo sequel what have they
Speaker 3: done to Solange yep, which it actually makes me curious
Speaker 3: if they're going to be doing that one next.
Speaker 2: That would be possible. I believe both have gone out
Speaker 2: of print from ARO a long time ago. Those were
Speaker 2: pretty early releases, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both definitely worth worth seeing for sure.
Speaker 2: Then we got some Radiance announcements. These are all coming
Speaker 2: in September. We'll talk about the dates and where they're
Speaker 2: coming out from the first one is a UK specific title.
Speaker 2: This is coming on September fifteenth on four K or
Speaker 2: Blu Ray. This got a severin restoration. Was just released
Speaker 2: in the States by Severn and that is In My
Speaker 2: Skin from two thousand and two. This is one of
Speaker 2: the first new French extremity movement titles that everybody associates
Speaker 2: with it. However, this has all kinds of new bonus features.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of new interviews, two short student
Speaker 2: films that are not on I think the shorts are
Speaker 2: on the student are on the Severn release, but a
Speaker 2: lot of the interviews are not. This has newly improved
Speaker 2: English subs. There is of course a limited booklet with
Speaker 2: new writing in their Radiance just putting out beautiful looking sets.
Speaker 2: And I know for a lot of people that may
Speaker 2: have just recently got The Severn, this has got to
Speaker 2: be frustrating because this is probably quite appealing.
Speaker 3: Yeah I got Yeah, I got the Severn and I
Speaker 3: haven't watched it yet, but maybe i'll do that soon
Speaker 3: and if I love it, maybe I'll consider getting this
Speaker 3: one as well. But we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's obviously that's the big question with a
Speaker 2: lot of these titles. You don't necessarily need to double dip,
Speaker 2: but wanting to double dip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotta be so hard when you see that
Speaker 3: they've put so much work into adding you know, the
Speaker 3: new special features, like it's hard to sometime times.
Speaker 2: And like Corin said, the the the artwork alone on
Speaker 2: Radiance stuff is like damn, you could frame every single
Speaker 2: cover that they've done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is gorgeous. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That being said, the seven split case slip cover thing
Speaker 2: they did pretty nice too. Next up, this is UK only,
Speaker 2: so not us from Radiance September fifteenth, World Noir Volume
Speaker 2: four box set. This is going to include in it.
Speaker 2: We've got Henry. That's probably the wrong way to say that.
Speaker 2: It's probably Henri de Quo, something like that Chanoff from
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty five. Definitely not French. I apologize Edward Molinaro's
Speaker 2: Back against the Wall from nineteen fifty eight and Marcel
Speaker 2: blue Wall's Paris pick Up from nineteen sixty two. This
Speaker 2: has two K restorations on each film. We've got new artwork,
Speaker 2: newly improved English subs limited eighty page perfect bound book
Speaker 2: with a bunch of writing in it. Commentaries on these
Speaker 2: are archival. We got an archival interview on the first
Speaker 2: title as well, new visual essay, new commentaries, one from
Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer, one from Tim Lucas. Not necessarily stuffed to
Speaker 2: the gills, but getting three of these titles together, I know,
Speaker 2: is the way that they're making it worth it for
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Again, the box looks gorgeous. So
Speaker 2: if you like art and that is something that you
Speaker 2: make choices with, you got kind of adore, uh, you
Speaker 2: got to kind of adore radiance because it's all great.
Speaker 2: Have you been get I think You've gotten quite a
Speaker 2: bit from Radiance.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I've gotten, but I didn't. I didn't start
Speaker 3: collecting these World Norths. That's like I'm too busy collecting
Speaker 3: the Quino Nors. That's even though these are probably better,
Speaker 3: these are probably.
Speaker 2: I could never admit that.
Speaker 3: Probably actual noir titles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, and these, I mean, Qino will
Speaker 2: give you three titles for twenty five bucks. This will
Speaker 2: end up being like forty five. I get it, I.
Speaker 3: Get it, but it definitely Yeah, it looks good. Maybe
Speaker 3: one day I'll lurge and get them.
Speaker 2: All after their out of print and costs three times
Speaker 2: as much. Next up September fifteenth in the UK and
Speaker 2: September sixteenth in North America. The next Radiance title is
Speaker 2: A Blue Way, Blue Way, Blu Ray of Los Gulfos
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty two. This is a group of poor
Speaker 2: youths tear around Madrid pulling scams and petty crimes. As
Speaker 2: one of their gang prepares to perform in a serious
Speaker 2: bullfighting competition, they plan a heist that will raise the
Speaker 2: money to finances entry, breaking with tradition by filming in
Speaker 2: the streets and utilizing documentary techniques to give the film
Speaker 2: an urgent resonance. Carlos Sora and producer Perry Portobella were
Speaker 2: announced as a powerful new force in Spanish cinema when
Speaker 2: the film was nominated for the Palm Door at the
Speaker 2: can Festival. And this is restored in four K. You've
Speaker 2: got all kinds of stuff on this disc. There is
Speaker 2: a really really crazy amount here. We got an intro
Speaker 2: by the author and former director of Filmoteca Catalunya Esteve
Speaker 2: Riambo from twenty twenty five, a bunch of new interviews
Speaker 2: scenes affected by censorship and presented alongside notes from the
Speaker 2: censorship committee. That alone is such a really interesting thing.
Speaker 2: Two early short films by Sora as well, reversible sleeve
Speaker 2: as usual, and then a booklet with writing, this to
Speaker 2: me seems like one that I'm probably gonna have to
Speaker 2: pick up. I don't have a lot from Spain, and
Speaker 2: this is just a really great sounding, interesting piece of filmmaking.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I also say that this looks like
Speaker 2: a must for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the sort of thing I had never
Speaker 3: heard of before this announcement.
Speaker 2: But just y, I feel like I've heard of maybe
Speaker 2: ten percent of radiance and stuff before They announced it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Next is The Betrayal from nineteen sixty six, also from Radiance,
Speaker 2: also September fifteenth in the UK and September sixteenth in
Speaker 2: North America. This one is another one of their Asian titles. Again,
Speaker 2: beautiful looking cover art as usual, select scene audio commentary
Speaker 2: by Tom Mess which is interesting to get a select
Speaker 2: scene commentary. I'm very curious why on that, because Tom
Speaker 2: Mess usually has a lot to talk about. We got
Speaker 2: a visual essay by Philip Kemp on this. We got
Speaker 2: a visual essay by Tom Mess on the director Tokuzo Tanaka,
Speaker 2: and then a booklet with new writing by Elaine Silver,
Speaker 2: limited to three thousand copies over in the UK. Next up,
Speaker 2: Third Window Films, also from the UK, putting out another
Speaker 2: one of their box sets. They haven't done one of
Speaker 2: these in quite a while. This is coming on July
Speaker 2: twenty eighth on Blu Ray and I am going to
Speaker 2: absolutely butcher this name, so I apologize in advance. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say it's Zoltan Husharik something like that that is
Speaker 2: probably very incorrect, but it's called Sinbad Constavari. And then
Speaker 2: five short films, so this is gonna be a three
Speaker 2: Blu ray box set. You've got the feature film from
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one, another feature film from seventy nine, and
Speaker 2: then five short films to make it a complete full
Speaker 2: box set. On top of that, you've got new four
Speaker 2: K restorations of the features, and then some four K
Speaker 2: scans of some of the shorts, an HD transfer on
Speaker 2: one of them, and then some appreciations one that I
Speaker 2: am incredibly interested in seeing. Peter Strickland speaks on the
Speaker 2: vision of these and if you've never watched Peter Strickland film,
Speaker 2: please do. One of the best modern filmmakers. Lots of
Speaker 2: other stuff that's coming on here. Third sorry not Third Window.
Speaker 2: They're another great company, Second Run DVD over in the UK.
Speaker 2: This is region free they always are, but they put
Speaker 2: so much love into their work and they don't get
Speaker 2: a lot of attention worldwide. Check it out. It is
Speaker 2: really really interesting to see stuff like this happening. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Second Run check them out please. This one is super cool.
Speaker 2: August twelfth, in the US, Rarero is releasing the medium
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty as usual, going through Keena Lober Distribution.
Speaker 2: This is an insidiously creepy supernatural horror film from the
Speaker 2: director Silvio a Madio. Following the death of his wife,
Speaker 2: an American music composer moves to an old mansion in
Speaker 2: Rome with his young son. They are soon haunted by
Speaker 2: a series of inexplicable events, causing them to hire a
Speaker 2: medium to divine the true nature of their seemingly cursed existence.
Speaker 2: We got an audio commentary by the host of the
Speaker 2: Wild Wild podcast Adrian Smith and Rod Barnett and RaRo
Speaker 2: does some great stuff when they finally come out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the cover alone makes me excited about this.
Speaker 2: The story sounds great. Very intrigued by this. Oh, look
Speaker 2: at this. Tyler's helping me out. I think SZ makes
Speaker 2: a Z sound like a lizard. Z S makes a
Speaker 2: z H sound like the ge and garage. So, in
Speaker 2: other words, I was very wrong. The Little Things from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one is getting a four K release from
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers. This is a mod four K release that
Speaker 2: should not scare You just want people to know that
Speaker 2: they are able to do this. So this is made
Speaker 2: onto and it's not burned. It's still a press disc.
Speaker 2: They just make it literally as it's ordered essentially, which
Speaker 2: is crazy. But this is a Denzel Washington, Remi Melick,
Speaker 2: and nobody else starring in this movie. Did you see
Speaker 2: The Little Things when it came back?
Speaker 3: I did. I. Yeah. I don't know if I'm the
Speaker 3: only one, but I was really excited with this announcement.
Speaker 3: I thought this was a great movie. Wow.
Speaker 2: The only other thing I've ever heard people say about
Speaker 2: it is this movie was truly boring.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I was riveted by it. I mean,
Speaker 3: but maybe maybe I'm on a different wavelength than there,
Speaker 3: but I thought it was it was it reminded me
Speaker 3: of I mean, it's fictional, so obviously you know it's
Speaker 3: it's but it reminded me. You know, it's about a
Speaker 3: serial killer, true crime investigation. It reminded me a lot
Speaker 3: of Zodiac in a way. Not but again, it is fictional.
Speaker 3: It's not you know, basically story. And I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: obviously it's as good as Zodiac is, but I but
Speaker 3: I did really enjoy it. And the thing that I
Speaker 3: most remember about it that really sticks with me, the
Speaker 3: opening scene is genuinely terrifying. It's set in nineteen ninety
Speaker 3: and there's like a teenage girl who's driving down you know,
Speaker 3: this desolate desert highway, and at night and she starts
Speaker 3: to get followed by somebody and she it basically turns
Speaker 3: into a sort of cat and mouse game between the
Speaker 3: two of them, and they use the B fifty two's
Speaker 3: song Roam, and they use it. You know, it's such
Speaker 3: an upbeat song, but they use it in a way
Speaker 3: that just is really chilling. And yeah, it was just
Speaker 3: I just thought it was so well done. So that's
Speaker 3: what really sticks with me.
Speaker 2: I mean, I will want to see anything with Denzel
Speaker 2: Washington just period. He's you know, literally one of the
Speaker 2: best actors of all time. For some reason, when this
Speaker 2: came out, I had not even heard of it, So
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was definitely one of those
Speaker 3: that sort of got lost in the shuffle during COVID because, yeah,
Speaker 3: it came out in twenty twenty one, I.
Speaker 2: Believe nice All right, after the Little Things, We've got
Speaker 2: some details on Final Destination Bloodlines. This is coming in
Speaker 2: July twenty second on four K. It's got a standard
Speaker 2: four K release, a steel Book four K release, and
Speaker 2: then a Blu ray release and a DVD release. Thanks
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers for putting out on DVD. Still this title
Speaker 2: is going to have Dolby vision HDR. We've got Dolby
Speaker 2: at most. We got an audio commentary from the director,
Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. Death Becomes Them on the set
Speaker 2: of Final Destination Bloodlines, catching up with the new cast
Speaker 2: and the dynamic directing duo to hear about their experiences
Speaker 2: on set and what they managed to sneak in for
Speaker 2: the fans. The many deaths of Bloodlines, from the collapse
Speaker 2: of the Skyview Restaurants to the worst MRI. There's behind
Speaker 2: the scenes about all of the deaths in the movie.
Speaker 2: But the really cool thing is they got a special
Speaker 2: little legacy featurette on Tony Todd reflecting on his decades
Speaker 2: spanning legacy of his character here, and he re examines
Speaker 2: Bloodworth's impact on the franchise now that everything has been revealed.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, pretty damn cool. And to get the
Speaker 2: last special feature with Tony Todd, I feel like I
Speaker 2: kind of have to have to get this. Plus it
Speaker 2: was a great movie. I'm very stoked on this.
Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I really liked this one. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think it was. I think it might be my second favorite. Honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up there for me. It's it's either favorite
Speaker 2: or second favorite at this point, probably but if you
Speaker 2: haven't got enough of Final Destination on the same day
Speaker 2: they are releasing. Of course, like they always do a
Speaker 2: sixth film collection, each of the movies will have special features,
Speaker 2: which is rather cool. This will likely not have the
Speaker 2: three D discs. This will probably be the exact same
Speaker 2: as the last Blu Ray collection that they did with
Speaker 2: the addition of the sixth film. Of course, that being said,
Speaker 2: this has been the funniest h oh it was Jason's favorite,
Speaker 2: too nice. This has been the probably second favorite part
Speaker 2: of my week this week is arguing with people who
Speaker 2: think that Warner Brothers will be releasing a full franchise
Speaker 2: Final Destination four K release in just a few months
Speaker 2: after everybody buys this. They won't. There's there's no way
Speaker 2: that they release a full franchise four K set of this.
Speaker 2: A couple of these were not filmed in a way
Speaker 2: that will work on four K, and nobody is going
Speaker 2: back to like the Final Destination and getting all of
Speaker 2: this the really awful CGI and putting that in a
Speaker 2: way that will look at on four K. It's just
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. I could see them doing maybe up
Speaker 2: to the first three on four K, considering that those
Speaker 2: three were shot on film, but that's if even that,
Speaker 2: I probably only really see them doing the first one
Speaker 2: on four K, probably nothing else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you've just broken my heart because I was
Speaker 3: gonna because I was gonna be one of those people
Speaker 3: in chime In. I was like, I was gonna say
Speaker 3: I saved my one complaint about four K for this
Speaker 3: because I was just like, I want a four K
Speaker 3: set of all of them.
Speaker 2: I mean, believe me, I wouldn't mind having them either.
Speaker 2: I love the movies genuinely, a really fun franchise. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're great movies, but it is something that, yeah,
Speaker 2: you just can't put certain things on four K and
Speaker 2: make it make sense.
Speaker 3: I still, I still wouldn't say, you know, never say never.
Speaker 3: Like I I feel like there's still a possibility that
Speaker 3: down the road at some point there could be.
Speaker 2: But I think they would have to put out like
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred other titles before they even literally like fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred other two.
Speaker 3: You don't think that they well I know it's Warner Brothers,
Speaker 3: but you don't think that they would ever like, you know,
Speaker 3: like a boutique label taken over or something.
Speaker 2: I mean, if they if they started being more open
Speaker 2: to that, sure, but like Final Destination still is something
Speaker 2: that is active. And yes, with how much money they
Speaker 2: just made, there's likely going to be another sequel in
Speaker 2: the next three years at this point because they're they're
Speaker 2: still printing checks for the next six months. I would
Speaker 2: have loved somebody like this would have made a really
Speaker 2: great screen factory. Probably Blu Ray box set, maybe like
Speaker 2: four K of the first three, then a Blu Ray
Speaker 2: of the second, the four and five. But this is
Speaker 2: something that's.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would even take like just new transfers
Speaker 3: even if it wasn't a Blu Ray, Like, yeah, but
Speaker 3: this is probably just the old you know versions from
Speaker 3: you know when when they first came to Blu Ray
Speaker 3: in like two thousand and ten or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree there, Yeah, it would be all
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I said we were going to talk about Found Footage.
Speaker 2: I got really cool opportunity to be on the show
Speaker 2: called CinemaScope, which is over on True Story FM and
Speaker 2: Next Reel it's a part of another podcast network, And
Speaker 2: we talked about the history of Found footage, went all
Speaker 2: deep into like obviously Campbell Holocaust. You gotta spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time on that. How found footage evolved over
Speaker 2: the last however many years, the impact of some of
Speaker 2: these in like pop culture overall and how it affected
Speaker 2: filmmaking and the primal fears that found footage is able
Speaker 2: to grab onto check it out, go look up CinemaScope.
Speaker 2: Andy does some really great work and it's a super
Speaker 2: fun episode.
Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Karen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just yeah, I love your light.
Speaker 3: Well I actually listen to that today at work.
Speaker 2: Amazing, what do you think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I subscribed to it instantly after I listened to
Speaker 3: it because they did it was a great episode. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was a fascinating conversation about found footage. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I would. I would, yeah, definitely chime in and recommend
Speaker 3: that for anybody who's interested.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really good and over on like his membership
Speaker 2: thing there, there's even a bonus episode that comes with it.
Speaker 2: But if you remember my Patreon, you're getting that bonus
Speaker 2: episode as part of that tomorrow you'll be getting that emails,
Speaker 2: so check out that when it comes through. It is
Speaker 2: it is a really really fun show. Specifically, actually recommend
Speaker 2: the episode on blaxploitation. Really great discussion on that. Now
Speaker 2: we don't have a release date for it, but soon
Speaker 2: we are getting this four KU book of Clown in
Speaker 2: a Cornfield that just came out earlier this year. This
Speaker 2: one is coming from Shutter and R. Lj. E. You
Speaker 2: get a commentary with the director, you like, Craig the
Speaker 2: author of the book that this is based on Adam Caesar,
Speaker 2: and then a couple of the actors, justin what'd you
Speaker 2: think of Cloud in the Cornfield?
Speaker 3: I was a big fan of it nice and yeah,
Speaker 3: I had read the novel prior to it, and I
Speaker 3: thought it was a really it was. It was a
Speaker 3: fairly faithful adaptation of it, and I was really pleased
Speaker 3: with what they did with it. And and yeah, the
Speaker 3: things that were maybe a little bit more obvious as
Speaker 3: far as sort of like the politics within the novel,
Speaker 3: they sort of did it in a way where it
Speaker 3: wasn't so broad for film. So I thought it it
Speaker 3: worked really well. I thought it was a smart, smart
Speaker 3: adaptation of it. And yeah, I love that they're doing
Speaker 3: a four K of this, And yeah, I don't collect
Speaker 3: a lot of steel books, but this one is good
Speaker 3: enough that I think I might have to have it.
Speaker 2: I hope that they also do a standard. I know
Speaker 2: a lot of people hate steel books, and people should
Speaker 2: have the option definitely. Yeah, all right, not many left. Next.
Speaker 2: Arrow today delayed The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Speaker 2: four K. They say, due to some extended production delays,
Speaker 2: we've made the decision to delay our upcoming UK release.
Speaker 2: It will now be released on August eleventh, and they
Speaker 2: just want it to be done right, which I'd much
Speaker 2: rather Arrow delay it rather than put out a replacement
Speaker 2: program and not send anybody discs. So yeah, check out that,
Speaker 2: I will say. I believe Jesse from Diabolic has been
Speaker 2: pointing out that the first two are the very first
Speaker 2: in the trilogy, is officially like fully out of print already,
Speaker 2: and the second one is about to be. So if
Speaker 2: you were wanting to go after these and you find them,
Speaker 2: check it out. That is something that you might want
Speaker 2: to get sooner or later. Craig say is happy to wait.
Speaker 2: But haven't they delayed each one now? No, only only
Speaker 2: two out of three were delayed.
Speaker 3: And I will say, if anybody is in the same
Speaker 3: boat as me, I asked Jesse about this because I
Speaker 3: had pre ordered all three of them together because I
Speaker 3: just figured I'm not going to watch one without the
Speaker 3: other two and I can get shipping with it. So
Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that you know, because
Speaker 3: they said that they were out of print with the
Speaker 3: first one or two of them, that you know if
Speaker 3: you ordered them all together, that we're still going to
Speaker 3: get them, and he, of course you can confirm that
Speaker 3: that we will.
Speaker 2: So yep, they're sitting there taking up space in his
Speaker 2: warehouse as we speak. Indicator had a couple announcements today
Speaker 2: September twenty second. Over in the UK. They're putting out
Speaker 2: a four K and a Blu Ray limited edition of
Speaker 2: Death Carries a Cane from nineteen seventy three, rather stylish
Speaker 2: Giallo that a lot of people love. I don't think
Speaker 2: I've seen this one, but this got a brand new
Speaker 2: four K HDR restoration by Indicator themselves. You got two
Speaker 2: different versions of the film, the Italian language and the
Speaker 2: English language version. You had audio commentary that was released
Speaker 2: last year with Eugenie Rikalani, Troy Howarth and Nathaniel Thompson.
Speaker 2: There is a bunch of archival extras on here and
Speaker 2: then Eugenie Orcalani talks about Rizzio Prado from twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five brand new interview with him, right, says damn me, No,
Speaker 2: I have to buy a few dollars more tonight.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, I was just about to say the
Speaker 3: same thing. This is in the Forgotten Gale Volume six set,
Speaker 3: and I recently, like earlier in the year, I went
Speaker 3: because I hadn't hadn't I had collected them, but hadn't
Speaker 3: watched any of them. So I went through and watched
Speaker 3: all of the box sets, and this one, this one
Speaker 3: is actually one of the better ones. I thought. The
Speaker 3: Killer uses a cane, you know, obviously from the title,
Speaker 3: but it's sort of funny because it's who done it
Speaker 3: and there's so many people limping through the movie.
Speaker 2: That's pretty great. Yeah, it'd be really funny if the
Speaker 2: Killer didn't carry a king that was the title. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is one of those like it
Speaker 2: just got to release recently. Were people like desperate to
Speaker 2: get this on four K in a standalone limited release? Maybe?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I really, I mean I really like the
Speaker 3: Powerhouse four k's or the Indicator. Yeah, the four k's
Speaker 3: that they're doing. Agreed, It's like, yeah, I just I
Speaker 3: just can't do this. I've got another.
Speaker 2: Set to be paired with it. They've got the nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four film The Perfume of the Lady in Black,
Speaker 2: also coming out of September twenty second, also in four
Speaker 2: K and also on Blu ray. This is the Mimsy
Speaker 2: Farmer starring nineteen seventy four film, brand new four K
Speaker 2: HDR restoration. They've got two versions, of course, They've got
Speaker 2: the Italian language and the English language version. Brand new
Speaker 2: commentary with Eugenio and Troy, a new interview with the director,
Speaker 2: some archival extras on here, and then lovely John talking
Speaker 2: about the score of this one. There's a brand new
Speaker 2: locations featurette that I believe Eugenio did that's probably really great.
Speaker 2: And Yeah, this is one that is a little more
Speaker 2: interesting to me. I think I saw this one a
Speaker 2: handfully years ago, but don't remember a lot about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one, this one I am picking up.
Speaker 2: Lovely color too, not color cover, that's the word. I
Speaker 2: really like the way they made that look for sure.
Speaker 2: Then some Keino stuff. This is what got a lot
Speaker 2: of people excited near the end of the day. This
Speaker 2: first one is Huckleberry Finn from nineteen thirty one coming
Speaker 2: on Blu Ray on August nineteenth. I got a new
Speaker 2: audio commentary with Julie Krugo and Peter Hancoff. Know nothing
Speaker 2: about this, probably not my style of a style of film, really,
Speaker 2: but man, some of these other ones go pretty hard.
Speaker 2: Next one that I just skipped. Of course, we're gonna
Speaker 2: talk about this one in a second. Don't get too excited.
Speaker 2: August nineteenth, four K release of what many people hail
Speaker 2: as a masterpiece and many others hale as the worst
Speaker 2: movie ever made, nineteen eighties zandad starring Olivia Newton, John
Speaker 2: and Gene Kelly. Keino. In setting this release up, commissioned
Speaker 2: four brand new audio commentaries, the first one with the
Speaker 2: director Robert Greenwald, moderated by Douglas Hoggsdale, the second one
Speaker 2: by Jennifer Clymer and Nathaniel Thompson, the third one by
Speaker 2: David del Val and Christoph Charles, and the fourth and
Speaker 2: final one with Sam Degan. On top of that, if
Speaker 2: you go look at the Blu Ray disc, they've also
Speaker 2: got some archival stuff, including seventeen radio spots about ZANDADU
Speaker 2: seventeen radio spots there's a two thousand and nine documentary
Speaker 2: that's almost half an hour long with the cast and crew.
Speaker 2: There's a making up from nineteen eighty that's brand newly
Speaker 2: remastered in a two K. There's so much in this release.
Speaker 2: Tell me about Xanadu, Dustin, is this one that you've
Speaker 2: seen in are a fan.
Speaker 3: Of I am? I mean it's very very cheesy, yes,
Speaker 3: but very very fun and I'm totally gonna get this.
Speaker 3: I mean those four commentaries alone, we didn't share that.
Speaker 3: I am gonna get this. Yeah, I'm curious what the
Speaker 3: four K transfer will look like because it's a very
Speaker 3: It's one of those movies from the seventies that has
Speaker 3: a very sort of like hazy gauzy look to it
Speaker 3: any way, sort of like Carrie. But Carrie look beautiful
Speaker 3: in four K, so hopefully this will too.
Speaker 2: Man, this is crazy. They were getting zandad not only
Speaker 2: in four K, but four new commentaries. That's a big deal.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool I have I admittedly have not seen Xana
Speaker 2: do since I was too young to appreciate it, guaranteed,
Speaker 2: but very curious to see this again. I don't know
Speaker 2: about blind buying a four K, but we'll see Corien,
Speaker 2: have a good night. I hope you're well. All those
Speaker 2: Elo songs probably needed a promo, but says Terry Golden, says,
Speaker 2: grew up in a house of women that love Xanda
Speaker 2: do so excited for this. Yeah, this has made a
Speaker 2: lot of people happy. I agree, Ronnie.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean the soundtrack is the reason
Speaker 3: to get it, Like, it's so many good songs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a big deal, big big deal.
Speaker 2: Then the next one that made a lot of people excited, Repossessed,
Speaker 2: is coming on August nineteenth. This is the Linda Blair
Speaker 2: ned baby Leslie Nilsen film. This gets a trailer as
Speaker 2: special feature and a new audio commentary by the director
Speaker 2: Bob Logan. But this is the second film in a
Speaker 2: row that many people call the worst movie ever made. Repossessed.
Speaker 2: Have you seen this one?
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, this is definitely a movie from my childhood.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I'm curious to watch it now because it's
Speaker 3: been so long since I've seen it, But I watched
Speaker 3: it enough back then that like I still like regularly
Speaker 3: quote it. Yeah. But what's funny is Keno takes so
Speaker 3: long to release their their stuff that I swear this
Speaker 3: was originally announced on my last appearance on this show
Speaker 3: back in September.
Speaker 2: That's a yeah. It was a long time ago that
Speaker 2: we first talked about repossessed and not to mention this
Speaker 2: has been Oh gosh. I think this had a German
Speaker 2: Blu Ray release on media book that has more bonus features,
Speaker 2: and then I think that somebody else had teased that
Speaker 2: they had got this, and then that was canceled and
Speaker 2: Keno ended up getting it. This has been a long
Speaker 2: time coming and so many people wanting this. The only
Speaker 2: thing I will say that really makes me kind of
Speaker 2: turned off by this, not yes, it sucks that there's
Speaker 2: only an audio commentary, but this is this is a
Speaker 2: really old dated HD transfer. This is not getting like
Speaker 2: a new two K Master, new four K anything. This
Speaker 2: thing is an old HD Master and I fear this
Speaker 2: is not going to look great on Blu Ray no
Speaker 2: matter what, and a lot of people are gonna be disappointed.
Speaker 2: That being said, it's on Blu Ray, A lot of
Speaker 2: people will be happy pretty much no matter what.
Speaker 3: And Patrick is right, I do sing your theme song
Speaker 3: based on this.
Speaker 2: Based on this interesting uh, very funny. I also love
Speaker 2: this comment. Ryan says, no way I'm buying Xanadu outside
Speaker 2: of a st Next is The Farmer's Daughter with Martha Ray.
Speaker 2: Not many Martha Ray titles has been released on Blue Ray,
Speaker 2: so this is good to see. This is from nineteen
Speaker 2: forty coming on August twelfth on Blu Ray. We get
Speaker 2: an audio commentary by far and Smith name Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know much about the movie, but pretty damn cool
Speaker 2: off Keino and then via Vision. Closing up our week
Speaker 2: with a couple of announcements. First up, we've got a
Speaker 2: four K release of Point Break from nineteen ninety one
Speaker 2: coming to Australia on August twenty seventh. Yes, this has
Speaker 2: been released on four K in the US by Shout Factory.
Speaker 2: It also got released i think in Germany or the
Speaker 2: UK by another company, two very different scans. But the
Speaker 2: big thing is this has a load of new special
Speaker 2: features and if you love a point Break, and who doesn't,
Speaker 2: because it's a masterpiece. This has a new audio commentary
Speaker 2: by Patrick Bromley, who's great at what he does. This
Speaker 2: also has a new interview with John c McGinley, new
Speaker 2: interview with Lori Petty, new interview with the Surfer Gang,
Speaker 2: and then a whole bunch of archival featurettes. This is
Speaker 2: a much more loaded release than the Shout Factory release.
Speaker 2: On top of that, if you are an audiophile, this
Speaker 2: is the first time I think since the original release
Speaker 2: that this is including the original four point oh surround sound,
Speaker 2: which is not a common way to release films. Four
Speaker 2: point zero stuff usually doesn't get poured it over to
Speaker 2: physical media, and so this is a pretty big selling
Speaker 2: point for a lot point Break is genuinely a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this?
Speaker 3: Well, it's so fun. I mean, it's a quintessential nineties movie.
Speaker 3: It's just and I mean, yeah, you've got Katherine Bigelow,
Speaker 3: You've got Keanu Reeves, Patrick Swayze, you've got bank Robberies.
Speaker 2: And prime Gary Busey, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's not to like about?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree, I agree. And then finally four K
Speaker 2: release on the same day, August twenty seventh of rain
Speaker 2: Man from nineteen eighty eight. I failed to mention the
Speaker 2: last one that will be in a four K lenticular
Speaker 2: hard box release like they do over at Via Vision.
Speaker 2: Same with this one. This one has three audio commentaries
Speaker 2: on the disc. None of them are new. I believe
Speaker 2: they were all on the other releases, like the four
Speaker 2: K release that came out in the States. You got
Speaker 2: some archival featurettes on the Blu ray, but I got
Speaker 2: a booklet with this and everything. Good movie, not the
Speaker 2: best movie, a lot of representation.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit outdated, but
Speaker 3: in some of its portrayals of autism.
Speaker 2: On that note, that is the last of the week,
Speaker 2: so let's discuss what's coming out next week in case
Speaker 2: you forgot first, we got the Looney Tunes Collector's Vault
Speaker 2: Volume one from Warner Archive, Sabrina four K from Keno Lber,
Speaker 2: the two Jurassic Park Trilogy four K steel books coming out,
Speaker 2: Deep Star six to four K from Keno, Midnight from Criterion,
Speaker 2: the All of Me Vestron release that is stuck at
Speaker 2: the lions Gate Limited site. I believe that is already
Speaker 2: shipping to some people. The new fiftieth anniversary Jaws steel
Speaker 2: book with that documentary attached, just coming out. Murder she
Speaker 2: wrote the complete series on Blu Ray. Finally, all sixty
Speaker 2: two discs of it is coming out next week. Way
Speaker 2: of the Gun four K, also a lions Gate Limited title.
Speaker 2: Different Man from a twenty four Imadman a Law in
Speaker 2: Order from Keno, Lber Thelonious Monks, Straight No Chaser from Criterion,
Speaker 2: Sands of the Kalaharia, one of the best cover arts ever.
Speaker 2: It's coming from Keno, the rad release from Mill Creek
Speaker 2: that will also have that brand new documentary attached to it,
Speaker 2: The Assessment from last year, which I've not seen but
Speaker 2: I've heard pretty good things about. One of my most
Speaker 2: anticipated from next week, The Annihilation of Fish. Will definitely
Speaker 2: be getting that from Milestone, eventually a couple from Eureka
Speaker 2: Hong Kong nineteen forty one, and then Exact Revenge with
Speaker 2: the Unich and the Deadly Knives, Promise for Anything in Rock,
Speaker 2: Pretty Baby from Keno, Jerry Cooper for film collection from
Speaker 2: Orner Archive, and that is it for next week. How
Speaker 2: many of these you already got are got on the
Speaker 2: way there? Does him?
Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, I'm yeah. I'm definitely getting Sabrina the four K.
Speaker 3: That's gonna look beautiful. And even though I just got
Speaker 3: done saying you know, I don't collect steel books, like
Speaker 3: both of those Jurassic Park steel books looks so good
Speaker 3: to me that yeah, against my better judgment because I
Speaker 3: already have them on I really don't need it, but
Speaker 3: I just don't know how to pass them up. And yeah,
Speaker 3: all of me is has already shipped for me. So
Speaker 3: that's one I've always wanted to see and I've never
Speaker 3: seen it, so I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not been many chances to see it, so
Speaker 2: it's nice to see it getting some love.
Speaker 3: And yeah, Different Man is excellent.
Speaker 2: So I loved that movie. Yeah, Gary is asking Murder,
Speaker 2: she wrote, has sixty two discs, Yes, sixty two Blu
Speaker 2: Ray discs. In Murder, she wrote, and uh, genuinely can't
Speaker 2: wait to have it. I will watch every single moment.
Speaker 3: I rarely so I rarely buy, you know, standard def
Speaker 3: DVDs of anything these days. And last year I thought
Speaker 3: the Murder she wrote, complete series on DVD, because I
Speaker 3: was like, that's never gonna get a Blu Ray roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, most people have said Murder, she wrote,
Speaker 2: will never ever get a Blu Ray release. And here
Speaker 2: we are, sixty two discs later.
Speaker 3: And I'm kicking myself because I'll know.
Speaker 2: And honestly, like I, I get upset with pricing a
Speaker 2: lot on a lot of things. Murder, she wrote, retail
Speaker 2: I think was one fifty and some places like Orbit
Speaker 2: had it for like one thirty for sixty two discs.
Speaker 2: That's not that bad.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's I mean, yeah, that's good. That's a
Speaker 3: good price.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So that's it for next week. Stoked on that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jaden's pointing out we're getting a Larry Coen set announced
Speaker 2: by Shout Factory tomorrow. Very curious to see what's gonna
Speaker 2: be on that. We got Imprint stuff getting announced tonight,
Speaker 2: Criterion stuff coming up in just a couple of days.
Speaker 2: It's going to be a busy week. It usually is,
Speaker 2: but it seems pretty damn exciting for sure. I a
Speaker 2: lot happening. That is the biggest thing I'll say is
Speaker 2: there is so much happening in physical media. It's hard
Speaker 2: to keep up with. Glad everybody's here to hang out
Speaker 2: and discuss it every week, though, Dustin, let's discuss some sequels.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about sequels overall?
Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, so yeah. When I was trying to come
Speaker 3: up with a topic for us this week, yeah, specifically,
Speaker 3: I was thinking underappreciated sequels, and what I found as
Speaker 3: I was going through it was, I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a champion though, of sequels, because
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a lot that people don't appreciate
Speaker 3: about them, and those are often the ones that I
Speaker 3: like the most. Yeah, because as I was going through it,
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I like that, I like that,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I feel like they're more Yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: like they tend to be more divisive, because you know,
Speaker 3: most of the time, if a movie is getting a sequel,
Speaker 3: it's because the first one was obviously successful and people
Speaker 3: liked it generally, and then when you get into the sequel,
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, like I said, they tend to split
Speaker 3: opinions more. And then yeah, there's certain ones that, yeah,
Speaker 3: people either hate or as time passes, I feel like
Speaker 3: the tide sort of turns on the opinion of them.
Speaker 3: And then I think there's some tonight that we'll be
Speaker 3: talking about that I feel like are maybe thought of
Speaker 3: a little bit more poper positively to day than they
Speaker 3: used to be. But then there's others that I feel
Speaker 3: like will be thought of more positively, you know, a
Speaker 3: few decades from now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm very mixed on these. I
Speaker 2: think that sequels obviously work with cult titles specifically really well.
Speaker 2: A lot of drama stuff generally is kind of odd
Speaker 2: to get a sequel, but sometimes when they do, they
Speaker 2: can be masterpieces, and that's a different thing. Like I
Speaker 2: don't know about you, I hope I'm not spoiling something
Speaker 2: that you're going to talk about, because the whole thing
Speaker 2: is very much highly lauded. But like the Before Trilogy,
Speaker 2: it's one that a lot of people probably would not
Speaker 2: have expected to get what it got, specifically the overtime
Speaker 2: sort of release style, but all all of the films
Speaker 2: are masterpieces in their own right and done very well.
Speaker 2: But you don't see that a lot like Horror Franchise. Sure,
Speaker 2: that's something that we can expect to see, but I
Speaker 2: love seeing stuff like the Before Trilogy that just out
Speaker 2: of nowhere and surprises you. Yeah, I'm really excited to
Speaker 2: talk about this tonight and specifically underappreciated things. This is
Speaker 2: one of those things where, first off, there will likely
Speaker 2: be some controversy at some point because both of us,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you have a title that most people think
Speaker 2: is bad, just specifically bad that we both really love.
Speaker 2: But in all reality, so much of this is just
Speaker 2: I really like championing things that don't get enough attention,
Speaker 2: and I again like, I don't mind you heard me
Speaker 2: earlier tonight. I don't mind saying something is bad, but
Speaker 2: it's so much more fun to talk about something that
Speaker 2: you're passionate about. And all of my five specifically that
Speaker 2: we're going to discuss, I feel like I talk about
Speaker 2: for hours because I love them so goddamn much. So
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for this, very curious to see what
Speaker 2: you're picking, because Dustin is huge into horror. For everybody
Speaker 2: that doesn't know, we obviously talked about how we wrote
Speaker 2: the book The Fright File, but the fact that we're
Speaker 2: just doing all genres, you could have picked anything under
Speaker 2: the sun, and I'm so curious, So let's just let's
Speaker 2: do it. What is the first one that you're gonna
Speaker 2: bring up tonight?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, yeah, I'll say that. So I've
Speaker 3: got five that we're mainly gonna talk about, and then
Speaker 3: you know, some honorable mentions. But out of the five,
Speaker 3: three are definitely horror, and then the one is like
Speaker 3: adjacent but I really wouldn't consider it horror, and then
Speaker 3: the other one's definitely not.
Speaker 2: That is kind of exactly my share too. I've got
Speaker 2: three that are basically horror, one that is sort of
Speaker 2: at least very cult, and then one that is clearly
Speaker 2: not horror.
Speaker 3: And I also feel like, yeah, when you say something's underappreciated,
Speaker 3: I feel like that's subjective as well. So and so
Speaker 3: I feel, yeah, yeah, I think things will be controversial,
Speaker 3: especially like if people really hate something that I like.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, yeah, I know that people hate at
Speaker 2: least two and maybe three of mine. So very stoked
Speaker 2: to get into this.
Speaker 3: All right, So you want me to go first? So
Speaker 3: the first that I have is the horror adjacent one.
Speaker 3: Oh and I'm doing them in order of release because
Speaker 3: I couldn't like really rank them in any way. So
Speaker 3: this one is from nineteen eighty one, and yeah, I
Speaker 3: absolutely love this movie. I think it's actually better than
Speaker 3: the original, and I love the original, but I don't
Speaker 3: think there's that many people who think this is superior.
Speaker 3: But I'll stand by it all day. And it is
Speaker 3: shock Treatment.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I knew that you were going to
Speaker 2: talk about this one tonight. I'm glad this is cool.
Speaker 3: So yeah, if you don't know, this is a a
Speaker 3: A I would say it's a loose sequel to Rocky
Speaker 3: Hart Picture Show It follows the characters that were originally
Speaker 3: played by Susan Sarandon and Barry Bostwick, and when it
Speaker 3: came time to make the sequel to it, Tim Curry
Speaker 3: didn't have any interest in coming back for his character.
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, Barry Bostwick and Susan Sarandon, really, I
Speaker 3: think they were too popular by that point. They were
Speaker 3: asking for too much money, so they recast them with
Speaker 3: Cliff de Young and Jessica Harper from Suspiria. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I think I think this is one of is probably
Speaker 3: my favorite performance from her. Oh yeah. But I just
Speaker 3: think the the music in this movie. Like, so, I
Speaker 3: rewatched it about a week ago and I haven't stopped
Speaker 3: singing the songs since I saw it. Now. Granted I
Speaker 3: knew the songs before because I've seen this movie a lot,
Speaker 3: but like, I can't get them out of my head,
Speaker 3: and I don't really want to. They're just so good.
Speaker 3: And I feel like because they haven't been they're not
Speaker 3: as well known as the Rocky Heart Picture Show songs,
Speaker 3: but I think that that adds a freshness to it.
Speaker 3: But they were done by the music and lyrics were
Speaker 3: done by Richard O'Brien who did the music for Rocky Horror.
Speaker 3: And I just find the whole film just so fascinating.
Speaker 3: It's so ahead of its time in a way. It's
Speaker 3: all so the entire film is set in this Middle
Speaker 3: America small town called Denton, USA, but the whole thing
Speaker 3: takes place in a TV studio, which is like a
Speaker 3: microcosm for the town. And it's just so fascinating. And yeah,
Speaker 3: the Brad and Janet characters show up there in the
Speaker 3: audience and then they get swept into well, just a
Speaker 3: lot of craziness, but it's thoroughly unpredictable. It's original, Like
Speaker 3: you never people watching the Rocky Heart Picture show like
Speaker 3: if they thought of what a sequel would be, it
Speaker 3: would not be this at all. But a lot of
Speaker 3: the a lot of the other actors from the film
Speaker 3: from the original film do come back playing different characters,
Speaker 3: and I think one actually it does play the same character.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I just unequivocally love this movie.
Speaker 3: I think it's beautifully shot. There it opens with this
Speaker 3: extended one take one shot of like the studio where
Speaker 3: it's introducing all of the characters, and it's it's just
Speaker 3: so inventive and just yeah, it's it's and then from
Speaker 3: there it just it just goes. So I just yeah,
Speaker 3: I really love this one.
Speaker 2: I am. I'm very sad that there's no US release
Speaker 2: of this for people to be able to see it.
Speaker 2: The Arrow release has been very out of print for
Speaker 2: quite some time now. Yeah, this is this is a
Speaker 2: really great choice.
Speaker 3: And I will say this was like getting this down
Speaker 3: from my shelf again. It just like broke my heart
Speaker 3: all over again because this was awful. Like the packaging
Speaker 3: of this is terrible. It's so flimsy and like I've
Speaker 3: got and this actually it was like this when it came.
Speaker 3: But there's like a crease down the side.
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, it's.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, it needs a better release, even though I'm
Speaker 3: happy that we have this at least, and I didn't
Speaker 3: realize that it was out of print, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: you would have thought that they would have at least
Speaker 3: done a reissue with better packaging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, funny enough, my first one has a little something
Speaker 2: in common. It's a bit of a musical kind of
Speaker 2: This is one that is probably gonna make a lot
Speaker 2: of people laugh. And actually sore of got a reference
Speaker 2: early in the show which a few of the things
Speaker 2: that we're going to be discussing tonight. Sorta did that.
Speaker 2: I'm stoked to talk on this one is a film
Speaker 2: that came out all the way back in nineteen and
Speaker 2: ninety one. This is a sequel that was put out
Speaker 2: associated with Spielberg as part of Amblemation. This is, of
Speaker 2: course an American Tale. Fivele Goes West. Now, I know
Speaker 2: that seems silly, but good lord, is this movie amazing.
Speaker 2: We talked about Don Bluth earlier. Don Bluth was a
Speaker 2: master animator that did something incredibly special for years and years,
Speaker 2: and he's not even associated with the second film at all.
Speaker 2: And yet as much as an American Tale is great,
Speaker 2: which it basically tells the story of what we find
Speaker 2: out is essentially like a Jewish immigrant family coming to
Speaker 2: the US, told with mice for some reason, and it's
Speaker 2: a beautiful, poignant, harrowing tale that is animated beautifully. It's
Speaker 2: a just master work from Don Bluth. This second movie
Speaker 2: just takes it and dials up the charm and still
Speaker 2: gives some of that like craziness, the the poignancy is
Speaker 2: still there, the the ability to like dive into these characters.
Speaker 2: You still get the entire Mousekowitz Family Fible is incredible.
Speaker 2: I truly love everything about this movie. The music is great,
Speaker 2: the animation is like genuinely very cute in every single
Speaker 2: thing that they do. I mean, the characters in this movie,
Speaker 2: the the the cats that you see, the hound dog,
Speaker 2: the everything is just I don't know, it's something that
Speaker 2: is so specifically this very don blue style and it's
Speaker 2: it's just beautif. I know a lot of people really
Speaker 2: liked the first one, but for some reason it wasn't
Speaker 2: as popular because it wasn't done Bluth. But Five Goes
Speaker 2: West or an American Tale, fivel Goes West. This movie
Speaker 2: is great and everybody should watch it. Just devastating storylines
Speaker 2: in both movies. Love this movie. Uh yeah, Five Goes
Speaker 2: West nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 3: I gotta watch this, Okay, So I have never seen it,
Speaker 3: and I love the original American Tale. Like the original
Speaker 3: that was one of my favorite films growing up as
Speaker 3: a kid. Like I just loved it so much. And
Speaker 3: when the sequel came out, I feel like I rented
Speaker 3: it and I started watching it, and because I was
Speaker 3: so used to the first one, I was like, this
Speaker 3: isn't that I think I threw me off because it's
Speaker 3: more of like a western right, very much so, and
Speaker 3: so I think it threw me off, and then like
Speaker 3: I just turned it off. Of course I was like
Speaker 3: I was like ten, I was probably I was a
Speaker 3: dumb kid. So I feel like I would really appreciate
Speaker 3: it now. But the thing that I'm whenever I think
Speaker 3: about this movie, the thing that always comes to me
Speaker 3: is in middle school. I think I was in seventh
Speaker 3: grade in choir and we sang as in our program
Speaker 3: Dreams to Dream, and so I remember that song but
Speaker 3: not the movie.
Speaker 2: Please please seek it out. I think you will like it,
Speaker 2: especially knowing what you said about Don Bluth earlier.
Speaker 3: It is I had no idea that it had like
Speaker 3: a like a serious story, like I don't know. I
Speaker 3: just always thought the first one is about immigrants and
Speaker 3: this and that. Right the second one, I just thought
Speaker 3: it was, like I don't know, I had just assumed
Speaker 3: it was like just a sillier sequel.
Speaker 2: It is sillier than the first one, but I like
Speaker 2: it's slightly more disney Fied in a way, which kind
Speaker 2: I can see that being a bad thing, but mixing
Speaker 2: that with Don Bluth characters and that heart is kind
Speaker 2: of like the perfect balance of exactly what it needed, right,
Speaker 2: Gallan was not expecting some hardcore fival talks.
Speaker 3: And I love Is it a musical like the original?
Speaker 2: Uh yes, probably somewhere around the same number of songs.
Speaker 2: It's got it like, it's got at least three, like
Speaker 2: really memorable musical points.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, yeah, yeah, I'll definitely check it out now.
Speaker 2: Nice, can't wait to see what you do? What you say?
Speaker 3: All right? The second one is for me. It's the
Speaker 3: non horror one, although people who don't like it might
Speaker 3: think of it as being horrific, but please bear with me.
Speaker 3: I love this movie so much, and once again, I
Speaker 3: think it's better than the original, and there is there
Speaker 3: is a very passionate cult for this movie, so I
Speaker 3: can't be alone. So nineteen eighty two, it's another musical
Speaker 3: and it is grease.
Speaker 2: I was about to say it, Oh man, Greece too.
Speaker 3: Well, have you seen have you seen Greece too?
Speaker 2: I grew up in a Greece worshiping home. My sister
Speaker 2: was addicted to Greece for like two years. I think
Speaker 2: during that time I watched it once or twice. I
Speaker 2: remember dismissing it. I don't remember a whole lot about
Speaker 2: the movie. I was a pos I agree I should
Speaker 2: watch it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I've always again. I think because the
Speaker 3: music from the original is so saturated in the public
Speaker 3: consciousness and the songs from the second one aren't. But
Speaker 3: I think they're just as memorable. Now you have to
Speaker 3: watch the movie and you know you're not gonna you're
Speaker 3: not gonna know too many of them, just like from
Speaker 3: living your life, right, Like when you watch it, like
Speaker 3: they'll be stuck in your head. They're great earworms. I
Speaker 3: feel like, so we've got and also so it's set
Speaker 3: two years after the original, and it's the basic gist
Speaker 3: of it is that Sandy, her cousin, comes from Australia
Speaker 3: and goes to the school that she had graduated from.
Speaker 3: And I feel and he's played by Maxwell Callfield, who
Speaker 3: I just feel like he has so much charisma. I'm
Speaker 3: kind of surprised that he didn't go on to do
Speaker 3: a whole lot of stuff, Like, I mean, he he's
Speaker 3: had an okay career. But I thought that, oh.
Speaker 2: Nice beautiful movie with Maxwell Caulfield.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like he should have blown up.
Speaker 3: I just thought that, Yeah, he's so good. And then
Speaker 3: Michelle Pfeiffer is in I think this is her first role,
Speaker 3: if not her first, or it was her second role.
Speaker 3: I think Hollywood Knights might have been her first role.
Speaker 3: But she's fantastic, and that she has a song, cool
Speaker 3: writer that's so good. There's another song that's set in
Speaker 3: a science class called reproduction and it's about exactly what
Speaker 3: you think it is, and it's just ridiculous and so
Speaker 3: fun and the romance I feel at the core of it.
Speaker 3: I think it works better than the original Grease because
Speaker 3: in the original Sandy at the end of the movie
Speaker 3: she changes everything about herself to get John Travolta's character,
Speaker 3: and she and Michelle Fifer's character Stephanie is not going
Speaker 3: to change anything for anyone. So I think that it
Speaker 3: actually has a more positive message than Greece does, which
Speaker 3: is the one thing that's always like, really not sat
Speaker 3: well with me with Grease is just the overall you've
Speaker 3: got to change yourself to get the guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun pick, but no I love it Grease too.
Speaker 3: Check it out.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people are gonna say it's
Speaker 2: not better than Greece, but Greece doesn't hold up super
Speaker 2: great in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of problems with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still good. Still you know, a very specific, canonical
Speaker 2: great film for a lot of people. Not taking that away,
Speaker 2: but no.
Speaker 3: And I will say the director of it was Patricia Birch,
Speaker 3: and she was a really I think she was like
Speaker 3: a big like Tony nominated choreographer and you can really tell,
Speaker 3: like she does such a fantastic job with all of
Speaker 3: the dance sequences and the musical numbers and everything, and
Speaker 3: they're shot really well and edited well. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I think she really helped it out. I hate
Speaker 3: them both equally.
Speaker 2: Thanks. This next one, if you've watched the show for
Speaker 2: some time, this is not going to be a surprise,
Speaker 2: but I had to sort of theme this with my
Speaker 2: first pick, and so my second pick is going to
Speaker 2: be another one of my favorite westerns of all time. Yes,
Speaker 2: five Ol Goes West is absolutely incredible Western. This is
Speaker 2: not my pick, but Back to the Future three maybe
Speaker 2: one of my favorite. I mean, that's weird to say
Speaker 2: one of my favorite when there's three of them. Incredible Western.
Speaker 2: My pick it's so good and zz Top is great
Speaker 2: in it. My pick is actually from two thousand and
Speaker 2: four as a direct to video horror western, and that
Speaker 2: is Tremor's for the legend begins. I adore the Tremors franchise.
Speaker 2: I think that not only is the first movie like
Speaker 2: genuinely a possibly perfect movie, it's it's compelling, wonderfully acted, hilarious,
Speaker 2: a really great like intro to horror movie for kids.
Speaker 2: Michael Gross was a really to hang your hat on
Speaker 2: this franchise, and he absolutely kills it in this movie
Speaker 2: playing his elder ancestor Hiram. This movie is so interesting
Speaker 2: to take a horror franchise and say, fuck it, let's
Speaker 2: travel back one hundred years, let's drown a bunch of
Speaker 2: miners and blame it on some graboids and see how
Speaker 2: fun we can make it. Now. A lot of people
Speaker 2: hate this movie because they did not have a lot
Speaker 2: of money to make this. You can tell the shooting
Speaker 2: is not great. A couple of the set pieces really
Speaker 2: sort of haphazardly thrown together. But the charm of putting
Speaker 2: the City of Perfection or sorry, the City of Rejection
Speaker 2: into a Western setting that is going back in time
Speaker 2: and filling this like Old West Center around monsters that
Speaker 2: are crazy that we've already loved for three sequels. There's
Speaker 2: so much fun. Was such a great way to reinvigorate
Speaker 2: this for me. I know a lot of people hate this.
Speaker 2: This might be other than the first movie, my second
Speaker 2: favorite Tremor's film ever, which is saying a lot because
Speaker 2: I adore this whole franchise. I really hope Ero keeps
Speaker 2: doing special editions for all of them. Will get part
Speaker 2: three here soon.
Speaker 3: But I was about to ask, do you think they're
Speaker 3: gonna do the third one? It?
Speaker 2: None of the other ones will probably be four K
Speaker 2: because of how they were shot. The third one maybe
Speaker 2: I don't remember if that was shot on video or what.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was shot on video, but and
Speaker 2: it might have been a shot on film and then
Speaker 2: edited on tape. Not sure either way. Tremor's four, if
Speaker 2: you have stopped at the first one or the second one,
Speaker 2: because those are the two that Arrow put out, they
Speaker 2: are all worth watching. But specifically Tremor's four is such
Speaker 2: a unique idea for a horror movie, and I think
Speaker 2: it doesn't land for a lot of people. But also
Speaker 2: it looks kind of, I don't know, drabby compared to
Speaker 2: the first One's got and so a lot of people
Speaker 2: were disappointed in that, but a brilliant way to just
Speaker 2: be like, no, let's make it cool and weird and unique.
Speaker 2: And when you're looking back at all of the Tremors movies,
Speaker 2: this one stands out as super super unique. It is
Speaker 2: absolutely a weird way to do a prequel to Freaking
Speaker 2: Tremors in eighteen ninety, Like, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen past the second one, so yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people. I really need to catch
Speaker 3: up on those. And isn't there isn't there one? It
Speaker 3: might have been the last one that has like John
Speaker 3: Heater in it or something.
Speaker 2: Isn't two of them? And Jamie Kennedy is in one
Speaker 2: or two of them? Oh?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 2: Maybe John Heater's only in one and Jamie Kennedy's in two.
Speaker 2: But once you get to five, six, and seven, the
Speaker 2: CGI that they have to use is awful. They go
Speaker 2: away from the practical stuff, but they're still like really
Speaker 2: really interesting. I think that they I don't know, there's
Speaker 2: something about the monsters and Tremors and how they evolve
Speaker 2: and like what we know about them that really keeps
Speaker 2: every single one fresh in a lot of interesting ways.
Speaker 2: I truly love every single one of the Tremors movies.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I definitely gotta check those out. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: love the first one and.
Speaker 2: It's perfect, genuinely perfect.
Speaker 3: So all right, well that was a great pick. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll check that one out too, so for my next one.
Speaker 3: All right, So now we're getting into the horror stuff.
Speaker 3: This one, I feel like, I feel like this is
Speaker 3: one that I was talking about where I feel like
Speaker 3: when it came out it was really thought of negatively,
Speaker 3: but I also feel like it had some other darker
Speaker 3: baggage that came with it. But then I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think opinion has started to turn. I think some
Speaker 3: people really like it now, but I absolutely love it,
Speaker 3: and it is Poltergeist three. I just feel like this one.
Speaker 3: So basically, I think it actually turned out well that
Speaker 3: Craig T. Nelson and Joe Beth Williams didn't want to
Speaker 3: come back for the third one, so they basically had
Speaker 3: to come up with a new storyline, and they basically
Speaker 3: made Carol Anne the lead character, who really I at
Speaker 3: the time like because I was closer to her in age,
Speaker 3: like that's who I was interested in anyway. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: then too then basically changed the setting completely to the city.
Speaker 3: It just gives it a really fresh feel to it.
Speaker 3: And then on top of all of that, like it's
Speaker 3: set in the John Hancock Center, so it's like this
Speaker 3: one hundred story skyscraper in Chicago. I mean, that is
Speaker 3: a fantastic location, and it's it's like and as they
Speaker 3: portray it in the film, I've never been there personally,
Speaker 3: but if it's realistic to how they show it in
Speaker 3: the movie, it's like there's like a shopping mall, and
Speaker 3: then there's office buildings and then there's a you know,
Speaker 3: apartments and all on top of each other, and it's
Speaker 3: it's basically almost like a little city inside a building,
Speaker 3: and and everything is like made of glass and mirrors,
Speaker 3: And of course that's that's the main thing with with
Speaker 3: Portergeist III, is that they've found their way to her
Speaker 3: through the mirrors. And are you laughing at that the
Speaker 3: mirror thing or something else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's a funny conceit, but
Speaker 2: like genuinely it's a it's a really interesting sequel because
Speaker 2: like the setting alone lends itself to some very creative
Speaker 2: shots in filmmaking.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Like there's there's effect shot in it
Speaker 3: and opticals that I still have no idea how they
Speaker 3: pulled them off, like just the mirror effects alone, Like
Speaker 3: I have no idea, and it's fascinating to watch just
Speaker 3: from a visual perspective. But yeah, when I first so
Speaker 3: it came out in nineteen eighty eight, and I probably
Speaker 3: saw it in eighty eight because I was watching movies
Speaker 3: like this back then. So let's say I was seven.
Speaker 3: Let's say I was six or seven years old when
Speaker 3: I saw it. I mean, I ate this movie up
Speaker 3: like iron, you know, at that age, I was always
Speaker 3: like pretending because I was a big movie fan even
Speaker 3: back then, and when I played, like I would pretend
Speaker 3: that I was in movies and stuff, and like I
Speaker 3: would reenact scenes from Poltergeist three with the mirrors and
Speaker 3: stuff and pulling her up on the mirror. Like I
Speaker 3: just loved it so much, Like it just spoke to me.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it has I mean a great cast like
Speaker 3: Tom Skarrett and Nancy Allen are both in it, and
Speaker 3: Laura Flinpoyle you pre Twin Peaks, and yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it's just so inventive, so original. And then on top
Speaker 3: of that, I think that it also called out to
Speaker 3: me at that age because I think when it came out,
Speaker 3: Heather Arouric had already who played Caroline, had already passed away,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, she died at age twelve, and knowing that,
Speaker 3: I think that was the first celebrity death that really
Speaker 3: impacted me at that young age. And so watching the
Speaker 3: movie knowing that that she had already passed away, like
Speaker 3: it gave it a different feel, like it just it
Speaker 3: fascinated me in a way. And so yeah, I was
Speaker 3: drawn to it for that too. And I know that,
Speaker 3: like it had to have reshoots done after she had died,
Speaker 3: and so the very last out of the movie you
Speaker 3: only see like the back of her character and because
Speaker 3: it was a body double obviously, Yeah, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just yeah, so there was like different layers
Speaker 3: to it that that drew me to this movie. But
Speaker 3: all in all, I just think that, yeah, I just
Speaker 3: think it's fantastic. I also want to shout out to
Speaker 3: the scene where she's Carol Anne is in the parking
Speaker 3: garage and she steps in the puddle and hands come
Speaker 3: up from the puddle and pull her down, Like I
Speaker 3: just I'd oh, well done. That was another scene that
Speaker 3: I just absolutely loved great stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a solid pick. Poultrygeist to me kind
Speaker 2: of feels like Psycho actually as a franchise, where so
Speaker 2: many people have only ever seen the first one, and
Speaker 2: yet the whole thing is like a shockingly really good
Speaker 2: franchise if you take each one at its own thing.
Speaker 2: It's just hard when you're living up to literally a
Speaker 2: classic of horror cinema. And you know, with Psycho specifically,
Speaker 2: you have Perkins attached to pretty much everything, even directing
Speaker 2: one of them, and then with Poulterrygeist, you've got some
Speaker 2: of the actors carrying over from the first one, and
Speaker 2: then just this crazy change of scenery and weird like
Speaker 2: deviation for a lot of people. But it works. These
Speaker 2: are still good movies. It's just it's hard to live
Speaker 2: up to a Toby Hooper classic.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I feel and I feel like that
Speaker 3: actually makes a good point because I think, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think when people go see sequels, they say that they
Speaker 3: want something fresh, but then when a movie dares to
Speaker 3: do something different, I feel like they sort of turn
Speaker 3: away from it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I've got another movie coming up where a lot of
Speaker 3: people did not like it because of the big swings
Speaker 3: that it took with the plot. But that's why I
Speaker 3: liked it personally, because I admired it for that and
Speaker 3: I thought it was more exciting for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You hear that same argument in music a lot,
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people will get attached to a
Speaker 2: band and be like, oh, man, I want to hear
Speaker 2: them evolve on the next album, and they come out
Speaker 2: and they do something really weird. They're like, ooh, not
Speaker 2: like that, and people get pissed off and stop following
Speaker 2: a band because of that, which I totally get. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it with stuff like this, appreciate it. It can be good.
Speaker 2: And again, if it's not good, that first movie is
Speaker 2: still there, you're gonna be okay, I promise.
Speaker 3: And I mean it basically did what Evil did Rise
Speaker 3: did yes thirty years before?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yes for sure? Man, Yeah, perfect, perfect analogy there. Okay,
Speaker 2: So my next one, I believe, yes, uh definitely by far.
Speaker 2: This is my newest film on here. And this is
Speaker 2: going to feel like a bit of a cheat because
Speaker 2: this is still a highly lauded film. I'm not taking
Speaker 2: it away from that, but still I think this is underappreciated.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a case for that. So This is
Speaker 2: something that we alluded to again earlier in the show.
Speaker 2: Funny enough, we mentioned things that we're gonna sort of
Speaker 2: talk about tonight, like four different times. Twenty nineteen film
Speaker 2: from Mike Flanagan, Doctor Sleep is lauded. Is a great film.
Speaker 2: This is a sequel to The Shining and people are like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's great. No, it's not great. Doctor Sleep is a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: This movie is not appreciated nearly enough for what they
Speaker 2: were able to pull off. I mean, Flannagan does the
Speaker 2: impossible and re shoots exact scenes from literally one of
Speaker 2: the most famous horror movies of all time, nails everything
Speaker 2: about it, the accuracy of the setting, the facial expressions
Speaker 2: of the actors, you know, trying to trying to mimic
Speaker 2: one of the most nitpicky directors of all time, and
Speaker 2: you pull it off as well as Mike Flanagan did.
Speaker 2: That is the impossible. And everything about the sequel that
Speaker 2: comes I don't even I probably should have looked up
Speaker 2: the exact number, but what like forty something years after
Speaker 2: the first movie or not forty I guess it's almost
Speaker 2: forty thirty nine years after the first movie. And you
Speaker 2: get this story now about Danny or Dan I guess
Speaker 2: Torrence in this one that is so good and it's
Speaker 2: so funny to deviate away from what I'm saying because
Speaker 2: ew and McGregor is amazing in this. But this whole
Speaker 2: movie is elevated. I hate the word elevated. Horse sorry,
Speaker 2: it is increase in appreciation so much by the incredible
Speaker 2: performance of Rebecca Ferguson and this weird group of people
Speaker 2: that is just haunting and everything you do and you
Speaker 2: get this like terrifying and so bleak base ball scene
Speaker 2: that we get, and everything about this lives in your
Speaker 2: soul and it is.
Speaker 3: And the fact is I'm sorry, and the fact and
Speaker 3: the fact that they cast Jacob Tremblay in that roll
Speaker 3: and you're like, well, nothing bad can happen to him, right,
Speaker 3: and they get rid of that.
Speaker 2: With your heart out in that scene and then everything
Speaker 2: just falls into place and like you can see some
Speaker 2: of the beats coming that they're aiming for and you're like, damn,
Speaker 2: like I really hope you can pull it off. And
Speaker 2: then he pulls it off, and then some and it's
Speaker 2: like WHOA hold on? He just like one of the
Speaker 2: most highly lauded horror films of all time and he
Speaker 2: just stepped up to the plate and killed it. Doctor
Speaker 2: of Sleep is going to go down. I really think
Speaker 2: in like five or ten years is something that people
Speaker 2: look back on and go, Jesus Christ, how did we
Speaker 2: just let that go by and just be nonchalant about it.
Speaker 2: I think that this movie is going to go down
Speaker 2: as a modern masterpiece of horror, and in thirty years
Speaker 2: there will be double features of the Shining and Doctor
Speaker 2: Sleep done that people will pay huge dollars to go
Speaker 2: into because it will be such an experience to see
Speaker 2: with the crowd. I adore Doctor Sleep. And again, I
Speaker 2: know it's weird to say because everything Mike Michael, everything
Speaker 2: Mike Flannagan has done has gotten like great rave reviews.
Speaker 2: But no, it's not enough Doctor Sleep. Is it surpassed
Speaker 2: that it is an absolute masterpiece?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I love it too, and but I really need
Speaker 3: to rewatch it because I yeah, I saw it in
Speaker 3: the theaters obviously, and I loved it. But I have
Speaker 3: not seen the director's cut.
Speaker 2: So I was about to bring this up before we
Speaker 2: went to the next one. The director's cut is longer,
Speaker 2: and it's not like a substantial couple of scenes. We're
Speaker 2: talking of substantial like twenty one minutes or something like
Speaker 2: that longer Mike Flanagan. If you are if you are
Speaker 2: a Mike Flannistan, I just I think Mike stand again.
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever it is. If you love Mike Flanagan,
Speaker 2: A lot of what people love it for is his dialogue.
Speaker 2: If you watch Midnight Mass and you're like, fuck, I
Speaker 2: really hate these monologues, you're probably not gonna love the
Speaker 2: director's cut. But the director's cut delivers this like extra
Speaker 2: exposition that isn't explaining but just enhances it. It is
Speaker 2: a really beautiful sort of like Midsommar did for me,
Speaker 2: this this addition to the story that just made me
Speaker 2: appreciate what I like, truly adored in the theatrical cut,
Speaker 2: and they just said, oh you want more, Yeah, here's
Speaker 2: here's a half hour more that you can appreciate and
Speaker 2: love and make it just that much better.
Speaker 3: So you you still really like the theatrical but you
Speaker 3: just think that the director's cut is is a superior version.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think it's very very good. But the
Speaker 2: director's cut is absolutely the way to go.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Yeah, I gotta I gotta get around to
Speaker 3: you know I have it, so I've got to get
Speaker 3: around to because didn't they release didn't they release the
Speaker 3: theatrical and four K but only the director's cut in
Speaker 3: Blu ray or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, so so frustrating. Yeah, that is exactly the problem
Speaker 2: that the director's cut is only on Blu ray anywhere
Speaker 2: in the world, I believe.
Speaker 3: Mm and why no reason was obviously finished like.
Speaker 2: Yep, all filmed the same exact way.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. But yeah, you're you're right, Like, I mean,
Speaker 3: it came and it came out, and I mean I
Speaker 3: feel like it got good notices from people who saw it,
Speaker 3: but it just it came and went yeah yeah, and
Speaker 3: I but I do feel like I have already seen
Speaker 3: more people finding it appreciating it. So I think you're
Speaker 3: absolutely right. I feel like, yeah, in another decade or two,
Speaker 3: it will be considered widely a masterpiece.
Speaker 2: Again, I know it's weird to pick it on a
Speaker 2: night like this where I'm talking about Tremor's four and
Speaker 2: then follow that up with follow that up with Doctor Sleep.
Speaker 2: But truly, like, if you get forty critics in a room,
Speaker 2: probably like two or three talked about it in high
Speaker 2: regard and a lot of them just didn't bother to
Speaker 2: say much about it. This movie should be up there
Speaker 2: with like best horror movies in the last twenty five
Speaker 2: years easily.
Speaker 3: M hm. So my fourth is okay. So this one, yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, this is another one where I
Speaker 3: feel like it came out and no, I think it
Speaker 3: was very mixed, let's say, and I thought it was
Speaker 3: almost as good as I won't say this is as
Speaker 3: good as the original, but it's almost like I think that,
Speaker 3: and I've only grown to love it even more through
Speaker 3: the years. And it is scream three nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of people who don't like it
Speaker 3: because they say that, you know, it's too broad, it
Speaker 3: gets too comedic. But I feel like that's overall. I
Speaker 3: mean there's parts, yes, but I feel like that's overlooking
Speaker 3: the overall story, which I think is arguably as dramatic
Speaker 3: as any of the films in the series as far
Speaker 3: as Sydney goes and her backstory. And I don't well,
Speaker 3: I mean, it has been twenty five years. I don't
Speaker 3: know if I want to give away, but let's just
Speaker 3: say it adds more to her backstory with her mother
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 2: But I just.
Speaker 3: There's so much inventive. Yeah, so much creativity that went
Speaker 3: into the third one. I felt with transferring it to
Speaker 3: Hollywood and having it be set on the STAB three set,
Speaker 3: and the conceit that the actors in the film are
Speaker 3: dying in the order that they die in the script,
Speaker 3: I think that's so much fun. And then on top
Speaker 3: of and on top of that, we've got arguably the
Speaker 3: best supporting character in the entire franchise, which is Parker Posey,
Speaker 3: absolutely brilliant. Like I thought, I thought she should have
Speaker 3: gotten an Oscar nomination for that role. Damn, that's I
Speaker 3: think that she. I mean, she's actually talked about how
Speaker 3: she wants to come back, which I think would be
Speaker 3: hard hard pressed to do realistically. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I would welcome it because I would just love to
Speaker 3: see what she's doing there. But on top of that,
Speaker 3: like I also feel like with us, you know, the
Speaker 3: Sydney's character, I think that it realistically, I think it's
Speaker 3: the only one where it so far. I think the
Speaker 3: new one coming up next year is going to explore
Speaker 3: her life more for the first time really, because I
Speaker 3: mean in the second one she was in college, but
Speaker 3: you didn't you know, and since then, you haven't really
Speaker 3: gotten too much look into her everyday life. But with
Speaker 3: the third one, like, I think that it did a
Speaker 3: pretty good job of exploring, you know, somebody who's gone through,
Speaker 3: you know, something so traumatic and and where they are
Speaker 3: in their lives. And she sort of like closed herself off,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of lives you know, out in the
Speaker 3: middle of nowhere. But she works as like like a
Speaker 3: crisis hotline person. And and I think it's realistic to
Speaker 3: to just like the post traumatic uh you know, PTSD
Speaker 3: of it all. And and when she comes to Hollywood, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, after the after everything starts up again, Like
Speaker 3: there's a great set piece where she is on the
Speaker 3: set of the film and the she finds herself in
Speaker 3: her old bedroom, which is a set not her real bedroom,
Speaker 3: but it's been made to look exactly like her bedroom.
Speaker 3: And uh and also like the set where her mother
Speaker 3: was found murdered. And I just there's just so many
Speaker 3: layers to it, like just with her being sort of
Speaker 3: inundated with with all of these memories from her past
Speaker 3: that were so horrible. Yeah, I just think that that
Speaker 3: that's that's a great set piece on top of it all.
Speaker 3: And also it is like, I think it's uh. I
Speaker 3: know that some people uh are a little bit divisive
Speaker 3: over this, but the dream sequence that she has with
Speaker 3: her mother coming back and being at the window, I
Speaker 3: think I almost remember you saying at one point that
Speaker 3: you didn't care for that. I actually think it's one
Speaker 3: of the creepiest moments in the whole franchise. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I just yeah, I just I love it from beginning
Speaker 3: to end. I think the comedy works, but I also
Speaker 3: think that it's not. It doesn't lose sight of its
Speaker 3: story or its characters or the drama that's involved in it.
Speaker 2: So great pick. I'm on record for saying, as far
Speaker 2: as horror franchises go, Scream I think is the highest
Speaker 2: quality throughout for the most part. I've soured on the
Speaker 2: newest ones a little bit over the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: for sure. Like walking out of the theater, I'm all high, like, ooh,
Speaker 2: brand new Scream. This is great. I go home and
Speaker 2: think about it, I'm like, wait, maybe not.
Speaker 3: It's like yeah, the well, yeah, I like all of them.
Speaker 3: There's not a single one that I would say is
Speaker 3: bad by any means. The fifth one, Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: so high on it at first when I went and
Speaker 3: revisited it, like I think some of its problems started
Speaker 3: to show. And also like just I mean, I know
Speaker 3: we're talking about Scream three and not Screamed, not the
Speaker 3: fifth one, but but just to mention the fifth one,
Speaker 3: like the fact that the original movie with Stu's house
Speaker 3: is like actually an actual house on location in northern California,
Speaker 3: and it's been relegated in the fifth one to a
Speaker 3: replica that's on a studio lot, and you can tell
Speaker 3: that it's on a studio a lot. Like that's just
Speaker 3: heartbreaking in a way because it just it just takes
Speaker 3: away I don't have the feel of it.
Speaker 2: So to bring that back to the third one, I
Speaker 2: think it's brilliant to have a house that, like real
Speaker 2: screen fans are familiar with Sydney, and so to be
Speaker 2: able to see her run through a set of her
Speaker 2: house is hilarious and like meta in a couple of
Speaker 2: different ways. That is just great.
Speaker 3: I actually runs through the one door and there's nothing
Speaker 3: on the other side, so she hanging off of it.
Speaker 2: So I really do enjoy Scream three. I mean, anything
Speaker 2: that gives Roger Korman a cameo, I'm gonna love, But
Speaker 2: I have to admit this one is my least favorite,
Speaker 2: primarily because it is rather obvious that the script fell
Speaker 2: apart from what they wanted, and I don't wanna. I
Speaker 2: don't want to spoil too much for those that don't
Speaker 2: know about the story behind Scream three. If you're interested
Speaker 2: in you've seen it, go go look it up. But essentially,
Speaker 2: what is revealed as the killer at the end of
Speaker 2: Screen three was only supposed to be a part of
Speaker 2: what that story was telling you. And there are a
Speaker 2: handful of things in this movie that because of the
Speaker 2: way they actually showed it, literally, it makes no sense.
Speaker 2: It would be a possible for what happened to actually
Speaker 2: happen because the story was meant to have different people
Speaker 2: being interested.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, it does something really interesting, you know,
Speaker 3: in the third act that's set in the mansion. Yep,
Speaker 3: it does something interesting where somebody that you think is
Speaker 3: dead and then you're like, there's literally nobody else that
Speaker 3: it could like, there's like it there. It's like everybody
Speaker 3: is either already dead or the people that are still
Speaker 3: alive running around are not the killers. So you're like,
Speaker 3: who is the killer? So I think that's sort of
Speaker 3: clever how it does that. It's sort of like switches
Speaker 3: around on you.
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, I actually really like the third act.
Speaker 2: I like the fake out. You think Dewey's about to
Speaker 2: die and then it's the knife handle. Oh yeah, or really,
Speaker 2: that's one of the first times I think that they
Speaker 2: did a fake out death like that a type of
Speaker 2: movie like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also going yeah, going back to Parker Posey,
Speaker 3: so like she's she's playing an actress who's playing the
Speaker 3: Gail Weathers and so like I love their chemistry together
Speaker 3: and the way that she basically decides, like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: hang on to you because the killer really wants you,
Speaker 3: not me, so if we're together, he's gonna kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Screen three is fun, and yeah, this is a
Speaker 2: good choice. It's definitely I could see it being underappreciate
Speaker 2: because a lot of people hate this movie, like genuinely
Speaker 2: that loved the first one. We're like kind of kind
Speaker 2: of mid on the second one and then hate the
Speaker 2: third one.
Speaker 3: And I don't. Yeah, I just don't get that. Like
Speaker 3: even if you think, even if you think it's your
Speaker 3: least favorite, like you do like at least you still
Speaker 3: see the positives.
Speaker 2: They're all very good and a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of movies wish it could be as good as Screen three.
Speaker 2: Oh man. That leads me, gosh, I have two left.
Speaker 2: Uh Okay, I'm gonna talk about this one first, because
Speaker 2: we just talked about horror so much. This one is
Speaker 2: not horror but cult adjacent ish. And this one's kind
Speaker 2: of odd too because it's technically not necessarily a sequel,
Speaker 2: but it is part of a trilogy. I am very
Speaker 2: happy with the other films that we got in this,
Speaker 2: so I'm not putting those down. I love those when
Speaker 2: they came out. I think that they were great and
Speaker 2: at each different era of my life. The first two
Speaker 2: films in this trilogy were my favorite films from the trilogy.
Speaker 2: But now I think one of the most underappreciated sequels
Speaker 2: of all time, which I mentioned on the show before,
Speaker 2: so again, probably not a surprise, twenty thirteen's The World's
Speaker 2: End by Edgar Wright. This movie has aged like fine
Speaker 2: wine compared to the other two. And I'm not saying
Speaker 2: Sean of the Dead is problematic now or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Shawan of the Dead is still great. Hot Fuzz is
Speaker 2: a fantastic movie, but the way that they not even
Speaker 2: they the way that Edgar Wright got you to invest
Speaker 2: in funny enough, not even characters, just the friendship of
Speaker 2: Nick Frost and Simon Peg for two movies, and then
Speaker 2: he takes you to the third film and you're like, oh, cool,
Speaker 2: they get to go drinking their friends. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But they flip the rolls and
Speaker 2: Nick Frost is now suddenly the regular dude and Simon
Speaker 2: Peg is the fuck up and you immediately like, have
Speaker 2: something weird in your head, go, this doesn't feel right,
Speaker 2: But afterwards it really hits you, especially if you aged
Speaker 2: with these films. Watching Watching the World's End at seventeen
Speaker 2: is so different than watching it at thirty two, because
Speaker 2: by the time that you're thirty two, you have known
Speaker 2: so many people that are like Gary. You've had friends
Speaker 2: that are stuck in their ways from childhood, from teenagehood,
Speaker 2: from getting in trouble, from just wanting to drink every
Speaker 2: Friday night and Thursday night and Tuesday night and whatever.
Speaker 2: But the way that they tell the story is so
Speaker 2: just like meaningful in the idea of friendship, the idea
Speaker 2: of like a familiar area for you to be bonding
Speaker 2: with friends and know the people around you and feel
Speaker 2: like what we've lost in twenty twenty five, which is
Speaker 2: this love of third places where you can go with
Speaker 2: somebody else that's not work, that's not home, and just
Speaker 2: feel welcome and accepted at a place like a local
Speaker 2: pub that you go to all the time. And this
Speaker 2: movie being told with frickin' robots and aliens and so
Speaker 2: much shit happening on screen to show the story about
Speaker 2: a forty year old alcoholic at its heart is so
Speaker 2: damn good and so poignant. I think it was just
Speaker 2: too soon. After the first two Most of the people
Speaker 2: watching it were like twenty three, and they were Gary still,
Speaker 2: and so so many people hated it because they couldn't
Speaker 2: relate to it in the way that Edgar Wright was
Speaker 2: looking back on it. Most of the people that were
Speaker 2: watching this were Gary and couldn't look back yet. They
Speaker 2: need to separate from that life and grow up a
Speaker 2: little bit like Gary had to through this whole thing,
Speaker 2: and it truly reframes this entire story. And having certain
Speaker 2: people that I grew up with that watched this with
Speaker 2: me in the theater that all hated this movie that
Speaker 2: are still massive fuck ups that I don't talk to anymore,
Speaker 2: believe me. But knowing that this was so prescient about
Speaker 2: what you're harming through a relationship like that, God, this
Speaker 2: is a great movie. Again. I think it's like a
Speaker 2: masterclass in storytelling that we're attached to Nick and Simon
Speaker 2: rather than the characters that they played in Hot Fuzz
Speaker 2: and in Sean of the Dead because they're different. But
Speaker 2: that core relationship of the director and the two stars
Speaker 2: was such an iconic tripod of contributing equally to this
Speaker 2: that by the time the third film was there and
Speaker 2: it pulled the rug out from on you and flipped it,
Speaker 2: you are completely lost in that. And for a moment
Speaker 2: you are a little dazed watching the first act of
Speaker 2: this film, And then when you get into it, God,
Speaker 2: does this movie hit. I love The World's End, and
Speaker 2: I think it might be the highest quality out of
Speaker 2: all three.
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, you make me want to revisit this really bad.
Speaker 3: I yeah, I've only seen all three of them one
Speaker 3: time each if you can, wow, and each each one
Speaker 3: was in the theater, and I've never revisited any of them.
Speaker 3: I liked Sean of the Dead, and I liked Hot Fuzz,
Speaker 3: and I really did not like the world. This World's
Speaker 3: the World's End. And but but ever since then I
Speaker 3: can say that I'm probably wrong because I've had so
Speaker 3: many people over the years tell me how good.
Speaker 2: It is, oh wow, okay.
Speaker 3: And how they don't understand how I don't like it.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, I can. I can willingly say that
Speaker 3: that I could become Maybe I was having a bad
Speaker 3: day when I say, maybe I just wasn't in the
Speaker 3: right mood. But you're making me want to revisit it
Speaker 3: really bad, So I'm going to.
Speaker 2: I hope you watch the whole trilogy. Man, I again,
Speaker 2: Hot Fuzz. Hot Fuzz is so damn cool. The way
Speaker 2: that they frame all of like this action buddy cop
Speaker 2: comedy up against like a horror ish background with this
Speaker 2: murder mystery cult story so perfect and then set of
Speaker 2: the dead lampooning every zombie movie ever is just brilliant filmmaking.
Speaker 2: Fred Wright, I love all three of these.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good pick. Yeah, I'm gonna yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: go back and watch all all of them. It's yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely in need of a revisit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Craig says he watched Hot Fuzz, then the World's End,
Speaker 2: then shot of the dead. That would make for an
Speaker 2: interesting way to view them for sure. All right, So
Speaker 2: I think we are on to your final one.
Speaker 3: Alrighty, So this one? All right? So this, this was
Speaker 3: the one that I was referring to where I feel
Speaker 3: like it took big swings and people turned against it
Speaker 3: because of that. And that's the exact reason why from
Speaker 3: the very beginning I was so drawn into it, because
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how basically how different it was than
Speaker 3: the other ones, and for the final one, and that
Speaker 3: is and and also I fully believe a lot of
Speaker 3: people aren't gonna like this who are watching this, but
Speaker 3: I think you like it so and that is Halloween Ends.
Speaker 2: Wow, all right?
Speaker 3: So well, as you know, Halloween is my favorite is
Speaker 3: my favorite car franchise. So I could basically go through
Speaker 3: and defend every Halloween movie except for Resurrection. But Halloween Ends. Yeah,
Speaker 3: definitely not what people were expecting. And I feel like
Speaker 3: it almost even though obviously Michael Myers is in this one,
Speaker 3: it almost mirrors Halloween three in the way that when
Speaker 3: that came out, it was advertised in a way that
Speaker 3: people didn't even know that it had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with the previous two, and so they were just outraged
Speaker 3: by it. And David Gordon Green has actually said that
Speaker 3: he even gave hints to its connection to Halloween three
Speaker 3: by adding in the opening titles, there's it's it's the
Speaker 3: font color is in blue, just like Halloween three, which
Speaker 3: I thought was so cool. It's like a subliminal thing.
Speaker 3: But but but basically, like Halloween ends, like the pre
Speaker 3: title sequence starts, You're watching like this college kid who
Speaker 3: is babysitting, and like the child that he's babysitting is
Speaker 3: beyond annoying, and it's Halloween night and you're like thinking,
Speaker 3: all right, Michael Myers is going to show up. At
Speaker 3: some point. He does not only does he not show up,
Speaker 3: something even more horrible happens. And then it goes to
Speaker 3: the titles and you're like, Okay, this is not what
Speaker 3: I was expecting from the last movie in the series,
Speaker 3: and where is it going to go from here? And
Speaker 3: I was so excited by that. I don't I've seen enough.
Speaker 3: I've seen enough, you know, straightforward Halloween movies. I don't
Speaker 3: need it anymore. I totally welcomed what this movie did
Speaker 3: by basically changing so I yeah, this one is known
Speaker 3: as So the character the babysitter, his name's Corey, played
Speaker 3: by Rohan Campbell. I think he's fantastic in it, but
Speaker 3: people hate his character, like people are like vehemently like, yeah,
Speaker 3: they despise his character. And I think it's fascinating. I
Speaker 3: think it's such a great character and and his performance
Speaker 3: is is great in it, and and where it goes
Speaker 3: from there. I thought it was interesting that for the
Speaker 3: basically the first time you actually get an idea what
Speaker 3: Michael Myers does for the you know, the other days
Speaker 3: of the year that aren't Halloween, which I thought was interesting,
Speaker 3: you know, other than Halloween five where he's just like
Speaker 3: passed out for a year with a guy with a
Speaker 3: parakeet and and all. And then when and then as
Speaker 3: far as Lorie is concerned, I found I found that
Speaker 3: interesting too, because at the end of the of Halloween kills,
Speaker 3: you know, somebody very I don't want to give it away,
Speaker 3: but somebody very close to her is killed. And you're like, well,
Speaker 3: she's already been through so much, how is she going
Speaker 3: to handle this? And so it said a few years later,
Speaker 3: and you can tell that like she's gone to therapy,
Speaker 3: she's like worked on herself and she's like, finally, for
Speaker 3: the very first time in the series, you can see
Speaker 3: the Lori that was in the original movie. Like, it
Speaker 3: feels like her, and it feels like she's back to
Speaker 3: who she was. I mean, you know, obviously you change
Speaker 3: over time, but but I could tell that it was.
Speaker 3: It just felt like like the original Lourie. And I
Speaker 3: thought that was so interesting that they did that night.
Speaker 3: It couldn't be by accident. I mean, even the way
Speaker 3: she dresses is you know, as much as I like
Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen Halloween, like, I thought it was kind
Speaker 3: of boring the way that they sort of basically turn
Speaker 3: her into, you know, someone who lives beyond, you know,
Speaker 3: behind all these bars and stuff, and she's just done
Speaker 3: toting and this and that, and and I found you know,
Speaker 3: the Halloween h two O version of her more interesting
Speaker 3: because that was a more interesting take on what she
Speaker 3: would be like later on, I thought than even though
Speaker 3: I do like the twenty eighteen one, but but basically,
Speaker 3: you know, I could I could defend Halloween Kills because
Speaker 3: I think that one's underappreciated too. I think the trilogy
Speaker 3: that David Gordon Greed did, I don't really have many
Speaker 3: problems with it. I thought that it was very well.
Speaker 4: Done, and and then even with the end, like I
Speaker 4: just think it's pitch perfect. It it ends the way
Speaker 4: that the first one ended with, like the shots of
Speaker 4: the different rooms, but it's in the daylight and it's changed,
Speaker 4: and I just think that it's sort of poetic in
Speaker 4: its own way.
Speaker 3: So come at me, so funny enough.
Speaker 2: I don't love Halloween ns. I like it. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's nearly as bad as the world made it
Speaker 2: out to be on that first month of release, because
Speaker 2: oh my god, the world hate it for a month.
Speaker 2: But up until about ten minutes before we went live,
Speaker 2: I was gonna I knew that you're like a Halloween worshiper,
Speaker 2: so I said, I'm gonna make my final pick Halloween
Speaker 2: Kills because I think Halloween Kills is the most underappreciated
Speaker 2: of the new trilogy. It's great. And then at the
Speaker 2: last minute I changed it, and I'm not going with
Speaker 2: Halloween Kills. But I do think people should watch Halloween Kills.
Speaker 2: It is truly great. Yes, the whole Evil Dice, and
Speaker 2: I think it's bad dialogue. It shouldn't have been said
Speaker 2: fifty four times seven, sure, fifty four probably not, although I.
Speaker 3: Am annoyed that people focused on that so much, like
Speaker 3: there's so much more to the movie than that. Yeah
Speaker 3: with you, but but oh my gosh, I love Halloween Kills.
Speaker 2: It's so good and it's it's the movie that Michael
Speaker 2: feels the most dangerous to me in that movie by far.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole park scene is well, like, my god,
Speaker 2: the most visceral violence in any Halloween movie by a
Speaker 2: long shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. I think that's the my out
Speaker 3: of that that that uh David Gordon Green trilogy. I
Speaker 3: think that that whole park sequence is the best part
Speaker 3: of any of the movies, like horror wise, like it's
Speaker 3: so yeah, like you said, it's so visceral. It the
Speaker 3: tension is so high, Like I loved that they brought
Speaker 3: Lindsey back and actually gave her like a good like
Speaker 3: chase scene. And yeah, I would yeah, I would say,
Speaker 3: I you know, I decided to do Halloween Ends because
Speaker 3: I think that's the one that people dislike the most.
Speaker 3: But I think out of the three, I would probably
Speaker 3: it would be a toss up, but I think Halloween
Speaker 3: Kills is probably the best of the three.
Speaker 2: Again, I understand why people hate it, like coldon here,
Speaker 2: I totally get it. But the thing is, I'm not
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not attached to the Halloween franchise
Speaker 2: like a lot of people. To me, it's it feels
Speaker 2: like the most disjointed of the main hollow not Halloween,
Speaker 2: of the main horror franchises, like.
Speaker 3: Timelines and yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So, like I said, I thought it would be cool
Speaker 2: to talk about a Halloween movie, but I decided I'm
Speaker 2: not going to talk about Halloween kills at the end.
Speaker 2: So at the last moment, I decided to make this
Speaker 2: true to my heart, something completely different. Get out of
Speaker 2: this timeline that everybody hates, and I think we have
Speaker 2: to talk about Halloween. To by Rob.
Speaker 3: Zombie, that was one of my honorable mentions.
Speaker 2: Rob Zombies, Halloween two is something that should go down
Speaker 2: as a modern horror masterpiece. This two thousand and nine
Speaker 2: movie is something that we have never gotten still to
Speaker 2: this day, out of Halloween films. There's so many things
Speaker 2: that are pulled off here, like it is a bigger
Speaker 2: story but not told in like a more complex way.
Speaker 2: It's more grounded in the humans than any of the
Speaker 2: other Halloween movies. It makes LORI feel like a real person,
Speaker 2: like they almost got to in Halloween Ends, and like
Speaker 2: they almost got to in the first movie, but they
Speaker 2: never quite got over that point. To me, I feel
Speaker 2: like Zombies Halloween two takes it to that other level
Speaker 2: where you are pouring out empathy at this person in
Speaker 2: a way that's not just I don't know, Like with
Speaker 2: Halloween Ends, I think the empathy that I felt at
Speaker 2: that point was almost just like you fucked with her
Speaker 2: so long, Just give her a break, Michael, come on.
Speaker 2: But with Halloween Two, it was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this girl is being tortured, Like we have to get
Speaker 2: out of the situation. And there's something about Rob Zombie
Speaker 2: that so many people hate with everything that they are,
Speaker 2: and I have enjoyed the vast majority of what he's done. Yes,
Speaker 2: thirty one is a bad movie. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: argue with you there. It's a bad movie. However, it
Speaker 2: was a very troubled production too, But so people.
Speaker 3: I will say, as much as I disliked thirty one
Speaker 3: the first time I saw it, I went back and
Speaker 3: rewatched it again a few years later, and I actually
Speaker 3: liked it a little bit more. It's still not great, though.
Speaker 2: I totally get that Three from Hell not a good sequel.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing is the power from the first two,
Speaker 2: was said Haig, and when he passed, we should have
Speaker 2: just let that go. We didn't need a third film
Speaker 2: without being.
Speaker 3: Rejects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Halloween two. Everybody looks at these movies, and
Speaker 2: first off, people didn't want a new Halloween. They didn't
Speaker 2: want somebody else coming in and tainting their timeline. Dude,
Speaker 2: your franchise has been tainted far too many times. Let's
Speaker 2: stop bitching about that. But then the people wanted to
Speaker 2: complain because they gave us too much backstory. I get
Speaker 2: it a little bit, and I get the people hate
Speaker 2: Sherry Moon Zombie, and I get get the people hate
Speaker 2: the Rob Zombie classic dialogue. But Hallowing two is where
Speaker 2: he is firing on all cylinders most for a franchise
Speaker 2: type film like this that's not Devil's Rejects are House
Speaker 2: of a Thousand Corpses. Both of those movies are stone
Speaker 2: cold classics to me that I adore both of them
Speaker 2: in very different ways. Hallowing to the white horse scenes,
Speaker 2: the stripper scenes, the death scenes that are just gnarly,
Speaker 2: the brutal, like the way that people are treated in
Speaker 2: this movie is so just maniacal at its heart.
Speaker 3: This one is by far out of every Halloween movie
Speaker 3: that's ever been made. This is definitely the darkest and
Speaker 3: most brutal.
Speaker 2: It is great. It is a rob Zombie that honed
Speaker 2: his craft finally after four films four I think it
Speaker 2: was only four at that time, and being able to
Speaker 2: make this in a system that was it was already
Speaker 2: built against him. I mean, remaking Halloween was never gonna
Speaker 2: go easy, and people didn't respond well. It made a
Speaker 2: little bit of money, so they gave him a sequel,
Speaker 2: but he went all in on this and they truly
Speaker 2: did something special. And I think people are going to
Speaker 2: go back in time and watch this in a way
Speaker 2: that you just separate it from anything Jamie Lee Curtis
Speaker 2: and John Carpenter. And this movie is amazing, great music,
Speaker 2: great acting, great effects. Truly an astonishing piece of cinema that, honestly,
Speaker 2: I think it's way better than his first Halloween movie
Speaker 2: and something that should be discussed outside of the Halloween
Speaker 2: franchise as a whole.
Speaker 3: Now, would you say, have you seen the theatrical and
Speaker 3: the the unrated which would you say is better. I
Speaker 3: have a very strong opinion.
Speaker 2: I honestly, the Theatrical to me, is a better movie.
Speaker 2: But I I don't know, there's something sadistic about the
Speaker 2: unrated gut like it's it's I think it's more fun
Speaker 2: to watch. But the Theatrical is the better movie, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I strongly believe the Theatrical is the better one.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish that you could do like sort of
Speaker 3: a Frankenstein cut of both of them and put them together,
Speaker 3: because there's things about one that I like, but then
Speaker 3: there's other things. But the ending of the Theatrical is
Speaker 3: so much better. No, I was written it off like
Speaker 3: I'm like, the Theatrical is cannon because I refuse to
Speaker 3: believe that what happens at the end of the other
Speaker 3: one is what really happened. Yeah, it's so good, And
Speaker 3: you know, it's a shame that the second one didn't
Speaker 3: It wasn't as successful as the first one, because I
Speaker 3: know that they were planning on doing a trilogy, and
Speaker 3: I just would have loved to have seen, Yeah, what
Speaker 3: what Rob Zombie would have done with that third one
Speaker 3: and bringing Scout back because I thought she she's fantastic and.
Speaker 2: She's genuinely amazing, like maybe the best performance in any
Speaker 2: anything associated with this franchise.
Speaker 3: And and also like out of you know, I could
Speaker 3: be overlooking something, but basically out of any slasher movie
Speaker 3: I can think of, I feel like this one is
Speaker 3: most realistic to portraying the aftermath of somebody who's been
Speaker 3: through something like that and what they might be like
Speaker 3: a year or two later. Yeah, and I think, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's Yeah, it's fascinating it. I will say
Speaker 3: so just as an aside when I because this series
Speaker 3: means so much to me. So when the first one came,
Speaker 3: When the original Rob Zombie one came out, I saw
Speaker 3: it at an advanced screening. I was a critic back then,
Speaker 3: and so I was. I went to an advanced screening
Speaker 3: of it, and I was so outraged by what I
Speaker 3: saw because I was so stuck in my head about
Speaker 3: what the original was and it was so different and
Speaker 3: just you know, the dialogue, like it the Rob Zombie
Speaker 3: you know world that he always creates in his movie
Speaker 3: is it's just grungey and grimy, and I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: not what Halloween is. Yeah, and then like it it
Speaker 3: after the first half, and it basically the second half
Speaker 3: the movie is like a Cliff's Note version of the
Speaker 3: whole original, but in forty five minutes rather than ninety. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I just I remember leaving the theater and just
Speaker 3: like being so angry, Like I don't know if any
Speaker 3: movie has ever made me madder in my life. And
Speaker 3: what's funny is that? And then I went home and
Speaker 3: like just wrote this like diatribe review. But what's funny
Speaker 3: is so then the director, you know, the unrate the
Speaker 3: director's cut came out, which is like twenty minutes longer
Speaker 3: or whatever. And you know, I've seen it many times
Speaker 3: since then, and I've actually grown to appreciate it, and
Speaker 3: the longer version helps it immensely. Yep, because it doesn't
Speaker 3: feel as rushed. I still have many issues with it.
Speaker 3: I swear, like in that third act Lorie is stuck
Speaker 3: in the walls for like thirty minutes straight and You're like,
Speaker 3: would you get out of the wall.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It like, but.
Speaker 3: It's grown on me. But Halloween too. From the very
Speaker 3: first time I saw it, I said, this is fantastic.
Speaker 3: This is what I wanted the original to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess to sum up like all of
Speaker 2: that on Halloween two. There's one thing that this movie
Speaker 2: gets that I think funny enough, since we just talked
Speaker 2: about Halloween Ends, I think that's the only other movie
Speaker 2: that comes close to getting this is Halloween two feels
Speaker 2: like everybody from the first movie is still feeling what
Speaker 2: just happened in that first film. They haven't recovered. And
Speaker 2: yet all of these other characters that are like newly
Speaker 2: added to the story that you don't know anything about.
Speaker 2: They just simply don't understand what's going on. And it's
Speaker 2: still so real to all of the victims that were
Speaker 2: around this, And it is again like it's it's the
Speaker 2: Halloween film that drew the most real empathy out of me,
Speaker 2: and I there's something about it. Rob Zombie was able
Speaker 2: to make it so real. But truly, Rob Zombie alone
Speaker 2: underappreciated as a filmmaker. I think people have shot on
Speaker 2: him for so long. He's really, in my opinion, only
Speaker 2: made two kind of bad movies, and they're not even terrible.
Speaker 2: I think Looking at Everything's Done has of a thousand
Speaker 2: corpses really good, Devil's Rejects Masterpiece, Hallowing pretty good. It's
Speaker 2: it's kind of bad but pretty good, Hallowing two masterpiece,
Speaker 2: not gonna talk about the haunted world of l Superbisto.
Speaker 2: Words of Salem secretly might be Rob Zombie's like technically
Speaker 2: best movie, thirty one bad movie, three from Hell, bad movie.
Speaker 2: Still fun to watch both of them, but bad movies.
Speaker 2: And then we get to The Monsters, and most people
Speaker 2: had an opinion but have never seen it. I adored
Speaker 2: the Monsters. I think it is so well done. He
Speaker 2: should not be out there touring like he is, right now,
Speaker 2: go make some more freakin' movies. You're great at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm curious if he's gonna
Speaker 3: make anything else.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I don't know if he can get funding.
Speaker 2: That's a fucking worse thing here, like.
Speaker 3: Because he used to be, yeah, so hot as far
Speaker 3: as just to get some of the stuff greenlit. And
Speaker 3: I mean, and I mean he's had a lot of successes,
Speaker 3: you know, earlier on if they gave him the money
Speaker 3: to actually do something else. Yeah, the Monsters. Yeah, Patrick
Speaker 3: really liked The Monsters.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: I appreciated it, and I visually I thought it was
Speaker 3: really good, But I think that it was sort of
Speaker 3: misguided because it basically ends where I thought it should
Speaker 3: have started. I get that some maybe we can get
Speaker 3: a sequel. Well that's that probably never happen, but it
Speaker 3: could be like Adam's Family Values.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably would be better, just like Adam's Family
Speaker 2: Values is better than the original. Well I'm sad.
Speaker 3: That you you picked Halloween too, because yeah, that that's
Speaker 3: another movie where certain people just despise that movie. And
Speaker 3: it confuses me because I just think it's so great.
Speaker 2: It made people think. I think that's the biggest thing
Speaker 2: is it's it's like an art house Halloween movie and
Speaker 2: people were not ready for that.
Speaker 3: And also just as an aside, like Daniel Harris is
Speaker 3: heartbreaking in it, and Brad Doriff like when he's fined,
Speaker 3: Like that's some of the best acting I think I'd
Speaker 3: ever English.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is so much, speaking to so much this topic.
Speaker 2: I feel like we could have each done a different
Speaker 2: list of five and so I'm sure we both have
Speaker 2: many more that we want to share.
Speaker 3: What else, We'll just go really super fast.
Speaker 2: Ye.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to bring so I just wanted to
Speaker 3: mention all of the all of the key famous horror franchises.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to call out some of them that
Speaker 3: that I like that that people don't. So starting out
Speaker 3: in celebration of it being after midnight, so it's officially
Speaker 3: Friday the thirteenth. I am going to defend Part five
Speaker 3: a New Beginning and Part eight Jason takes Manhattan. People
Speaker 3: don't like the fifth one because it's not really Jason.
Speaker 3: I think that that's why it's so cool. I think
Speaker 3: it's different. It has one of the best chase sequences
Speaker 3: I think at the end up there with Part two.
Speaker 3: And also I think sort of like Halloween two. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of the later in the eighties, Like
Speaker 3: if you watch some of the Friday the Thirteenth movies today,
Speaker 3: they are so watered down because the MPAA was basically
Speaker 3: cutting everything from them. Like if you watch Part seven,
Speaker 3: there's virtually no blood in that movie at all, Like
Speaker 3: you can just tell that they just cut it to
Speaker 3: shreds Part five they weren't, like they weren't cracking down yet.
Speaker 3: And yeah, that's like it's like the Halloween two of brutality.
Speaker 3: When it comes to the Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 2: It's good. It's it's much better than in a violent nature,
Speaker 2: which is just Jason walking.
Speaker 3: That's actually a good comparison. It actually does. And then
Speaker 3: with Jason takes Manhattan, Like the main criticism of that
Speaker 3: is that ak, yeah, he doesn't get to Manhattan until
Speaker 3: the last half hour. But the kicker for me is ever.
Speaker 3: So that's actually the first Friday the Thirteenth movie I
Speaker 3: saw in the theater. So I was seven, and my
Speaker 3: older brother sot me to see it and we got
Speaker 3: in and and I love the scenes on the boat.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite part. I don't really care about me.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's cool seeing him in Manhattan, but
Speaker 3: I don't really care about that because.
Speaker 2: It's like and it's not it's not done well.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but like I like this. I like Jason
Speaker 3: on a cruise ship. I think that's good. If they
Speaker 3: had called it part eight Jason, you know, Jason on
Speaker 3: a cruise or something, people would.
Speaker 2: You would have called it Jason's Voyage to Manage.
Speaker 3: And people wouldn't have had the criticism anyway. I like them.
Speaker 3: The only one I can't quite defend is Jason goes
Speaker 3: to Hell. It's great that one does take big swings,
Speaker 3: I'll give it that much, but that one really does
Speaker 3: for the last one and it's called Jason Goes to Hell.
Speaker 3: You want to actually watch him in the movie, not
Speaker 3: his soul in other people's bodyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. What else you got?
Speaker 3: And then for a Nightmare on Elm Street picked part
Speaker 3: two So Goodtartie's Revenge because I feel it's underappreciated. I
Speaker 3: feel like people like it for now maybe, but back
Speaker 3: in the day like it. I think it was sort
Speaker 3: of like The Black Sheep, Like I just find it fascinating. Well,
Speaker 3: I love that, you know, people, the director can deny
Speaker 3: it all he wants, but the entire movie is a
Speaker 3: metaphor for exactly. It's about a teenage boy who's struggling
Speaker 3: with his sexuality. And if you can't deny it, like
Speaker 3: the director has said that he wasn't even thinking of that,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. When you've got a scene where they're all
Speaker 3: these big balls are like bouncing in the gym towards
Speaker 3: the and he's like being whipped in the showers by Freddy,
Speaker 3: like it's and then you've got yeah, the protagonists who's like,
Speaker 3: you know, damning in his room and just it's it's
Speaker 3: so coded and so obvious.
Speaker 2: But I already coming out of him.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and Freddy coming literally coming out of him
Speaker 3: and he's trying to fight the urges. It's so yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that one. Do you have any more?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got it. Chapter two is way better than
Speaker 2: people give it credit for it. It does, It does
Speaker 2: not suck. I love it. Chapter two. Day of the
Speaker 2: Dead is the best of the original Romero trilogy, and
Speaker 2: people look down on it because they think the other
Speaker 2: two are amazing.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's better than Night of the Living.
Speaker 2: Dead by a long shot?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: And Donna the Dead is the worst one by far.
Speaker 3: Oh I would agree that.
Speaker 2: Funny enough, it almost made my list, but you were
Speaker 2: talking about it, so I kind of booted it for
Speaker 2: five twenty eight weeks later. Amazing movie, really great sequel
Speaker 2: if you've not given it a chance because it's Jeremy
Speaker 2: Renner and in a city, it's totally worth it. It's
Speaker 2: it's a very different movie, but that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2: It is so well made.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up Creep two. Creep was like
Speaker 2: this masterpiece that should not have been as good as
Speaker 2: it was, and then to have the balls to make
Speaker 2: a sequel to that, like in the exact same way.
Speaker 2: Creep two never should have been good. It is so good,
Speaker 2: and the fact that they could keep up the quality
Speaker 2: like they did, The Duplas brothers are amazing. Completely away
Speaker 2: from the horse side. Before I share the last one
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up. It's if it's been a
Speaker 2: long time since you've seen it from the nineties, go
Speaker 2: watch a very Brady sequel, The Brady Family Going to Hawaii.
Speaker 2: It is so funny. There are scenes in that movie
Speaker 2: that are like totally weird, but so funny at the
Speaker 2: heart of it. It is a great, great comedy, so good.
Speaker 3: And then talk about how amazing Jennifer Alice Cox is
Speaker 3: so good, Like that's somebody who should have had a
Speaker 3: bigger career after those movies. She should have been like
Speaker 3: the Anna Faris every time because she was amazing as
Speaker 3: jan Yeah, fully agree, but yeah, I agree. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think the sequel is better than the first one.
Speaker 2: Last one, I want to talk about one of my
Speaker 2: favorite horror franchises. Went and saw the vast majority of
Speaker 2: them on opening day with my wife since we were kids.
Speaker 2: I mean, the first one came out like twenty one
Speaker 2: years ago now or whatever. Saw six is actually a masterpiece,
Speaker 2: a really great movie, and the fact that the whole
Speaker 2: thing is built to lambast the American healthcare system is
Speaker 2: such a brilliant way to take a torture porn film
Speaker 2: and make it way relevant for modern audiences. And I
Speaker 2: think it'll go down as totally one of the best
Speaker 2: horror sequels of all time easily.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely has one of the more memorable uh
Speaker 3: yeah sort of setups and and and storylines as far
Speaker 3: as the motive behind everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, any more for you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just have a few more real quick, I'm
Speaker 3: almost all right. This one's gonna be highly controversial. Jaws
Speaker 3: the Revenge, Jaws two maybe, but Jaw's the Revenge. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: Jaws the Revenge is better than Jaws two. Maybe maybe
Speaker 3: maybe that will get me kicked off the show.
Speaker 2: Just don't say it's better than the first one.
Speaker 3: And no, it's not as good as the first one.
Speaker 3: But I just feel like Jaws the Revenge, Like if
Speaker 3: you saw the first two and thought to yourself, I
Speaker 3: want more of Chief Brody's wife, then like this is
Speaker 3: the movie for you, And like Lorraine Gary is front
Speaker 3: and center for the whole movie, and like I'm here
Speaker 3: for I love her and it and it's like, yes,
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous that that the shark is going to follow
Speaker 3: her to the Bahamas, that's ridiculous. But everything else it's
Speaker 3: like a it's like a romantic drama. It's like what
Speaker 3: we were saying Wolf Creek with sharks like dangerous animals.
Speaker 3: This is like, it's like a romantic drama of a
Speaker 3: woman finding herself and it just so happens to have
Speaker 3: like a shark like attacking and killing people on the side,
Speaker 3: and like she falls in love with like Christ, who
Speaker 3: is it? Who is the jails for hold On? I
Speaker 3: got it? Michael Keane Michae okay, because he said that
Speaker 3: he took the movie because it paid for his house.
Speaker 3: At least he's honest.
Speaker 2: I love the I love the implication that somebody watched
Speaker 2: Jaws the first movie. You went, I want to see
Speaker 2: more of cheap Brody's wife, which was me.
Speaker 3: That's why I love her in the first I actually
Speaker 3: did a I did a Facebook post once where I
Speaker 3: was like in defense of Ellen Brody and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh interesting, and I was like, I was like, I
Speaker 3: want to see more of Ellen Brody. I was like,
Speaker 3: Lray Gary should have gotten an Oscar nomination for Supporting
Speaker 3: Actress for the original jonas she's so good in the room. Anyway,
Speaker 3: all right, the next two, I'll go quicker. Yeah, this,
Speaker 3: this is a little bit more outside the box.
Speaker 2: This is, oh yeah, not what I've seen the bite.
Speaker 3: So have you seen either of the curses?
Speaker 2: I think I've seen the first curse ages ago, barely
Speaker 2: remember it. Definitely never seen the sequel.
Speaker 3: So they have nothing to do with each other. It's like,
Speaker 3: an of course only sequel. So the first one has
Speaker 3: Will Wheaton in it, and it's about like like water
Speaker 3: contamination and it starts like turning his family into like
Speaker 3: zombies or something. The second one, which has absolutely nothing
Speaker 3: to do with it, It starts Jill Scholin, who I love,
Speaker 3: and she's on a desert road trip with her boyfriend
Speaker 3: and he gets bit by a snake. And this it's
Speaker 3: been a while since I've seen it, but I think
Speaker 3: the snake has been injected with some special sort of
Speaker 3: venom or something, and it basically his her boyfriend's hand
Speaker 3: starts transforming into a snake. And it's crazy, but it's
Speaker 3: creepy and for anybody who has a phobia of snakes.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of the better snake movies out there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's very it's very well done. And I was actually,
Speaker 3: Joe Sholin is really good with social media, and like,
Speaker 3: I've been talking to her recently and I mentioned to
Speaker 3: her the other week of it because she had done
Speaker 3: a post about Curse Too, and I was like, how
Speaker 3: did you the end of the you know, without giving
Speaker 3: it too much away, Like the end of the movie,
Speaker 3: She's like in a it's like raining, it's muddy. She's
Speaker 3: in this pit and they're snakes everywhere, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: how did they do that? And She's like, I was
Speaker 3: told that they were not going to be real snakes,
Speaker 3: and then they dumped real snakes all over me and
Speaker 3: I had to just go along with it. Jesus, I
Speaker 3: would have been it's impressive for that.
Speaker 2: Yikes.
Speaker 3: And then this also stars Joe Shoulin. But I want
Speaker 3: to just highlight when a Stranger Calls Back, which I
Speaker 3: think is better than the first one as well. Hear
Speaker 3: me out the first one. The first one it basically
Speaker 3: the best. Well, I guess it's arguable, but the best
Speaker 3: part of the original movie is the first like twenty
Speaker 3: minutes with Caryl Keene and the calls are coming from
Speaker 3: inside the house, and but when when Stranger calls back,
Speaker 3: like it extends that for a little bit longer, and
Speaker 3: I think does more with it, and it's even scarier.
Speaker 3: And then I think it's interesting. It actually does something
Speaker 3: similar to what we were talking about with Halloween two,
Speaker 3: where it sort of picks up with her character like
Speaker 3: a year later and she's really struggling to move on
Speaker 3: with just you know, the trauma of everything she went through.
Speaker 3: So I think that's interesting. And then I also think,
Speaker 3: you know, it came out in nineteen ninety three, and
Speaker 3: it's a it's almost sort of it's like an early requel,
Speaker 3: if you want to call it that, like because they
Speaker 3: bring back Carol Kane and Charles Burning, you know, fourteen
Speaker 3: years after the original to sort of help her. So
Speaker 3: it's sort of like what they did with Scream five
Speaker 3: and the upcoming I know what you did last summer.
Speaker 3: So I think it's interesting and there's also an awesome
Speaker 3: Have you seen it?
Speaker 2: I've not not. Well, I have, but not in a
Speaker 2: long time. Not in the way that I want to
Speaker 2: claim it. I just I really want to point out
Speaker 2: the show is never in the history of four years
Speaker 2: of doing this, never mentioned the words Charles Durning ever,
Speaker 2: and we've mentioned him twice tonight, is it.
Speaker 3: Well, when you mentioned him earlier in the show, in
Speaker 3: the back of my mind, I thought, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: mention him. What all right? And then all right, three
Speaker 3: more and I'll go super fast. Book of Shadows Blair
Speaker 3: Witch two. I'm not going to say this one's as
Speaker 3: good as the first one, so don't think that I've
Speaker 3: lost my mind that much, but I will say that
Speaker 3: I'm very I was very impressed that, especially for so
Speaker 3: it's directed by Joe Burlinger, who's a famous documentarian and
Speaker 3: he did the Paradise Loss documentaries about the West Memphis three. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then for them to then choose him to direct
Speaker 3: a sequel to a fake documentary and then choose not
Speaker 3: to make it a documentary, just a conventional we told
Speaker 3: film like that's kind of bizarre. But I like it,
Speaker 3: and I like the fact that they go in a
Speaker 3: different direction with it, because you would just expect them
Speaker 3: to just do another found footage movie. So I think
Speaker 3: it's good in its own right. I think it's very
Speaker 3: much a two thousand movie. Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: right down to like the Poe song on the soundtrack
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff. But but I like it. Okay,
Speaker 3: last two. Yeah, this is another one that almost universally
Speaker 3: was hated, and I have absolutely no idea why, because
Speaker 3: I loved it. I'm not going to say it's as
Speaker 3: good as the original. It's not as good, but I
Speaker 3: did love it. Exorcist the Believer.
Speaker 2: I still haven't watched this. I need to.
Speaker 3: I have no idea why everybody turned against it the
Speaker 3: way that they did, because I thought that it's the
Speaker 3: most respectful to the original, and it deals with a
Speaker 3: lot of the same themes of you know, a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of a lot of the same themes
Speaker 3: that are in the original about you know, faith and
Speaker 3: the supernatural and just I think it does a really
Speaker 3: good job of being basically what the original Exorcist is,
Speaker 3: which is more of a human drama that just happens
Speaker 3: to have really frightening things in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I see, is it? I see? I've always seen
Speaker 3: the Exorcist is more of a drama than than a
Speaker 3: horror film.
Speaker 2: Yeah. On that note, because that just reminded me I
Speaker 2: probably could have thought of this earlier and put it
Speaker 2: on my list, But I actually as an underappreciated sequel,
Speaker 2: I truly love The Omen two. I think it's a
Speaker 2: similar thing where it's a drama more than a horror.
Speaker 2: But I the second one might be as good as
Speaker 2: the first movie, which is crazy because that first movie
Speaker 2: is a freaking masterpiece. I love it, but the second
Speaker 2: one is so good, Like I love the whole franchise,
Speaker 2: but that second movie is really great.
Speaker 3: I like any sequel that decides to go the snow route.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm so excited for The Black Phone two
Speaker 3: because it looks genuinely like I was skeptical of what
Speaker 3: they could do with it, but now that I saw
Speaker 3: the trailer and I saw what they are doing with it,
Speaker 3: and it's set like in the winter time at this
Speaker 3: like camp and yeah, and they're sort of going out.
Speaker 3: They are sort of going on more supernatural route. It's
Speaker 3: almost like he's become sort of like a Freddy Krueger. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm really I'm really intrigued by it, all right, last
Speaker 3: one and this one again, I have no idea why
Speaker 3: people didn't like it. I thought it was fantastic and
Speaker 3: this is one that decades from now people are going
Speaker 3: to reassess and love and wonder why people didn't like
Speaker 3: it before. And it's joker if all you.
Speaker 2: Do something to see this one too.
Speaker 3: I'm terrible, I think it. I know, I know that
Speaker 3: they were both divisive, but but people tended to like
Speaker 3: the first one, and obviously you know it was Oscar
Speaker 3: nominated and and Joaquin Phoenix won the Oscar And but
Speaker 3: the where they went with this I thought. I thought
Speaker 3: it was organic to where it needed to go while
Speaker 3: also standing on its own and not just being a
Speaker 3: repeat of the first one. And I loved Lady Gaga
Speaker 3: in it, and.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: I think I think she was nominated for a Razzie
Speaker 3: for it, which is patently ridiculous because she's fantastic in
Speaker 3: it and the only reason they nominated her was just
Speaker 3: because it looked cool to just dump on the movie
Speaker 3: that was a flop.
Speaker 2: And again, most people had dumped on it never even
Speaker 2: saw it.
Speaker 3: So and yeah, I know a lot of people didn't
Speaker 3: like it because it was sort of a musical. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, musicals are my second favorite genre next to horror,
Speaker 3: if you didn't know that. So I'm never gonna complain
Speaker 3: about a movie being turned into a musical. But I
Speaker 3: thought it. I thought it was a fascinating sequel and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll defend it continue too, and it will be it
Speaker 3: will be reassessed in years to come.
Speaker 2: I need to see it. I've wanted to see it,
Speaker 2: and it's just it can't be a priority unfortunately, amongst
Speaker 2: many other things happening. But yeah, all solid picks, very
Speaker 2: very solid picks.
Speaker 3: Awesome if you have any more or was that it?
Speaker 2: That was it? I guess omen two. Omen two is
Speaker 2: one I could have added. I mean, there's there's so
Speaker 2: many things like I think, I don't know to get
Speaker 2: a little basic about it, Like Conjuring two is underappreciated
Speaker 2: because everybody has sort of been like mcued to death
Speaker 2: through the whole Conjuring universe that they've done. But Conjuring
Speaker 2: two is like the an equal but opposite side of
Speaker 2: the coin to Conjuring one that does not get the
Speaker 2: love that it gets. I mean, it created like three
Speaker 2: or four other iconic villains, some really great scare scenes
Speaker 2: in that second movie, very cool setting to take it
Speaker 2: where they I think it was really great. I mean
Speaker 2: Patty in the chat he mentioned Escape from La. It's
Speaker 2: not a good movie, but it's a really fun movie.
Speaker 2: And I think seeing Escape from La on the big
Speaker 2: screen really changed my feelings on it. It's it's a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of fun and does not deserve
Speaker 2: to be maligned as much as it is. Let's see.
Speaker 2: I mean, we could go through silly things that we
Speaker 2: kind of already alluded to tonight, But you know, there's
Speaker 2: there's a lot of major ones that people have talked about,
Speaker 2: like you know, the Indiana Jones. The first one everybody
Speaker 2: always loves, but the second and the third one to
Speaker 2: so many people are way better.
Speaker 3: I I yeah, I've always said the Temple of Doom
Speaker 3: is the best in the series.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: It's well, that's the one that I as a kid,
Speaker 3: as a little kid watching these movies. Temple of Doom
Speaker 3: was the one that I just kept returning to because
Speaker 3: it's like one it's like one action set piece after
Speaker 3: the next that would appeal to a kid, like like
Speaker 3: you know, jumping out of the plane, and then and
Speaker 3: then they're on the raft and they're going down there,
Speaker 3: and then they run off the cliff, and then there's
Speaker 3: like the dinner with all of like the all of
Speaker 3: the animals and the monkey brain and the snakes and
Speaker 3: the whatever, and then you've got like the tunnels with
Speaker 3: the bugs, and it's like one thing after that, and
Speaker 3: then like the train ride and then the bridge at
Speaker 3: the end, Like every single thing appealed to eight year
Speaker 3: old me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. I mean, I don't know, there's so
Speaker 2: many that we could talk about, but a lot of
Speaker 2: these are also just like super appreciated, highly lauded films,
Speaker 2: and so, I again, great choice for a topic tonight.
Speaker 2: I feel like we really got some deep cuts. I mean,
Speaker 2: one other show was talking about the Curse to the
Speaker 2: Bite and Premer four and a long discussion on screen
Speaker 2: three all in one show. This has been a lot.
Speaker 3: Of fun and a fivele deep dive.
Speaker 2: I forgot, Yes, what were the words? A hardcore fival discussion. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Patty Boy's right. Kevin Smith supposedly writing a sequel
Speaker 2: to Dogma right now.
Speaker 3: It was also he was supposed to be writing a
Speaker 3: sequel to mal Rats, but I don't know if he
Speaker 3: if he's still doing that or not.
Speaker 2: I think it got tabled because somebody came and offered
Speaker 2: to fund Dogma two if he did it immediately, she
Speaker 2: was like, hold that thought, mal rats and went and
Speaker 2: jumped on Dogma two. So he promised that he was
Speaker 2: going to take Dogma two to the can Film Festival
Speaker 2: by their eightieth anniversary or the eighty first, which would
Speaker 2: be not next spring but the following spring.
Speaker 3: So why do I feel like he's not going to
Speaker 3: bring back Linda Fiorentina because apparently he did not have
Speaker 3: a good a good time filming.
Speaker 2: With Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3: Just think his actual words where I should have cast
Speaker 3: Janine Garofalo in the role.
Speaker 2: I mean, I get that sentiment though, I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I mean so we're thinking that, like Matt Damon
Speaker 3: and Ben Affleck are going.
Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. You can't go
Speaker 2: into this and not get both of them right. They
Speaker 2: have to do this.
Speaker 3: At least, of course God.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately the biggest missing Alan Rickman, of course. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm very very curious to see how Dogma two will play.
Speaker 2: And not to mention, what do you what do you
Speaker 2: write it about? You know, after after his career and
Speaker 2: the lampooning from not even really the Catholic Church but
Speaker 2: the Catholic League, which is one person and most people
Speaker 2: don't realize that it's like mostly one person. They're the
Speaker 2: ones that attack Dogma to follow that up a handful
Speaker 2: of years later with Red State. I want to see, like,
Speaker 2: is there a completion of that trilogy of films that's
Speaker 2: gonna piss off the religious right because dog and Red
Speaker 2: State sure as fuck did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, speaking of interesting to see, that has
Speaker 2: been you, my friend. Thanks for being here tonight. This
Speaker 2: has been such a blast, really great discussion. I love
Speaker 2: Matthias is here and I say we're leaving right as
Speaker 2: he says, good morning.
Speaker 3: Good morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. We've been live now almost four hours and not
Speaker 2: a moment that I have been bored. I mean, listening
Speaker 2: to us talk about these has been a lot of
Speaker 2: fun for me, at least hopefully for everybody watching. Thank you,
Speaker 2: Thank you. Really fun week scheduled for next week. Friend
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Speaker 2: and I hope that you enjoy it next week, Dustin,
Speaker 2: great night, lots of good announcements, Thanks for giving your time.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And if anybody dissed it at
Speaker 3: the beginning, go see The Life of Check this weekend.
Speaker 3: It is the best movie I'll see this year, and
Speaker 3: the year is not out, but I seriously doubt I'll
Speaker 3: see anything better.
Speaker 2: We'll see if it overtakes centers for me, because I
Speaker 2: truly loved it. Mattia's you're in Sweden. One of what
Speaker 2: band that I love is from Sweden. I hope you're
Speaker 2: enjoying it over there. Hope you're healthy, happy, Dustin, You're amazing.
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