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Speaker 4: Let's start with a little bit of news from Arizona football.
Speaker 4: Got an article here about potential breakout stars, breakout candidates
Speaker 4: for this upcoming season. The top five got tight end
Speaker 4: Keon Burnett, cornerback Marchis Groves Killbrew, wide receiver Jeremiah Patterson,
Speaker 4: hunter Michael Salgado Medina, and then offensive lineman Rhino.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna even try to say his last name,
Speaker 5: which you know it is, I say Rhino.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, who's the author? Who's the source?
Speaker 4: This is from the desert?
Speaker 3: So is that in the in house or is that
Speaker 3: from somebody else and they're just repurposing it? That's probably sorry, Okay,
Speaker 3: So by you know, you know, that's an aggregate type
Speaker 3: of thing. They find other stuff from other people. You agree.
Speaker 5: I agree, I would have included some other guys, but
Speaker 5: I mean, Kim Burnett's had a very impressive training camp
Speaker 5: right spring. He did not look good and Roberta Miranda
Speaker 5: was the guy that kind of stood out there. But
Speaker 5: Burnett's been catching everything, been very physical, looks a little.
Speaker 3: Bit and we've kind of expected this, haven't we.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 5: Where when is he gonna pop? I mean, yea four
Speaker 5: star kid that's highly talented. When is that finally going
Speaker 5: to click? And we might be starting to see the
Speaker 5: start of that one.
Speaker 3: Obviously, the son of Chester Burnett, right and and Arizona
Speaker 3: has seen the Legacy kids before the Johnson kids, the
Speaker 3: one who came from Colorado. Is it Johnson on the
Speaker 3: defensive end a couple of years three years ago? I
Speaker 3: think it was under under under someone uh, defensive end
Speaker 3: guys him and his brother.
Speaker 5: There's a P J. Johnson.
Speaker 3: He was a no, no, no, this is Colorado transfer.
Speaker 3: And then his son, his brother was already here from
Speaker 3: and I'm sure, oh, Harris Harris, did I see Johnson?
Speaker 3: Yeah Harris, Yeah, yeah, Harris. Those guys were good, but
Speaker 3: but obviously not as good as well. Shawn Harris kids, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, Harris Jalen was good and solid. Not the Ford
Speaker 5: Star recruit that everybody thought he would do.
Speaker 6: He was.
Speaker 3: He the transfer from Colorada.
Speaker 5: It was Jason Harris, the transfer from Colorado, right, who
Speaker 5: grew up here in Phoenix. I believe in the Arizona area,
Speaker 5: Ford Star hid and he just never cut it. And
Speaker 5: I think he went on Marshall and didn't cut it there.
Speaker 5: So you know, just kind of a.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it just doesn't work, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I
Speaker 3: mean those those names are huge names, right, and you think, okay,
Speaker 3: the apolo isn't far far from the tree, and those
Speaker 3: guys just didn't didn't cut it. That's why I couldn't remember.
Speaker 5: The name, you know. And and it's hard when you
Speaker 5: have a dad that's elect right, right, and then you're
Speaker 5: living up to that expectation.
Speaker 3: No, it's very difficult. The pressure is.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable, even when you don't think you are you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, without questions, without question. Okay.
Speaker 4: Sticking with college football, switching over to IOWA football, the
Speaker 4: head coach Kurt Friends and assistant John Budden mayor or
Speaker 4: Bud Meyer where we say it, they are going to
Speaker 4: be suspended for the Hawkeyes season opener due to a
Speaker 4: penalty for a violation. Late twenty twenty two, they contacted
Speaker 4: a player and his family prior to him entering the
Speaker 4: transfer portal.
Speaker 3: Oh okay from another school?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 3: Did this? Did the guy eventually go to Iowa?
Speaker 4: I think? I mean, it's like they didn't identify the player.
Speaker 3: But if you're doing it and they don't go, what
Speaker 3: the hell you screwed up?
Speaker 5: You mean, coaches the players that are on did.
Speaker 3: You just wing quin at me?
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 3: Well apparently, but did you in modern telling me, oh,
Speaker 3: you know this stuff happened before you know this that before? Yes,
Speaker 3: I know this stuff happened before you know because how
Speaker 3: how could it not right?
Speaker 5: I mean, let's let's face it. I mean there were
Speaker 5: talks about that. When Jetfish and his SLAF left Washington,
Speaker 5: he's on influx of Arizona players go to Washington and
Speaker 5: some that were in the portal and are they gonna say?
Speaker 5: Are they gonna leave? But they didn't talk to them
Speaker 5: like there are those are their guys? You know, you're
Speaker 5: naive if you don't think that they had some format.
Speaker 3: But if I talk to them, if I ave allome
Speaker 3: player and I talked to the coaches. Is that okay?
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think either way. If you're
Speaker 5: not in the portal, I don't think.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay. I'm sure they did because it's
Speaker 3: come on, it's human nature.
Speaker 5: And you had guys that were previously on Arizona staff
Speaker 5: that were there during the jetfish era, that were here
Speaker 5: when Brennan first got here, and now they're not here.
Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, I mean that's happens. You know,
Speaker 3: divorce happens. People go their own way. It is what
Speaker 3: they hear, what it is there is gonna be in
Speaker 3: a good spot.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Do you a one hundred people that you know, one
Speaker 3: hundred people just random, how many believe that Brendan's a guy?
Speaker 5: I would say about sixty five, that's all I would
Speaker 5: say about sixty.
Speaker 3: Well, what's wrong with the thirty five?
Speaker 5: I think what's wrong is San Jose State, even though
Speaker 5: the record's not like, the record doesn't show how well
Speaker 5: he did that. Sure, but of course that average college
Speaker 5: football fan that doesn't understand the ins and outs. Yeah,
Speaker 5: anything about college football. Well, he had a below five
Speaker 5: hundred record at San Jose State. Why do we want this?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 5: It was San Jose State. Let me tell you. Their
Speaker 5: facilities are like.
Speaker 3: A high school facility, right right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And the stuff that he did there was.
Speaker 3: Very actually, actually people what people don't know, it's like
Speaker 3: UTAP or New Mexico State or even New Mexico. Coaches
Speaker 3: who take those jobs are more likely to be fired
Speaker 3: than get a job, a better job, because how do
Speaker 3: you win there.
Speaker 5: It's it's almost like a death.
Speaker 3: It's death, no question. Yeah. And so he did really
Speaker 3: well at San Jose State because it's at some level
Speaker 3: he should not have, right.
Speaker 5: And we've seen that from three coaches. One of Arizona
Speaker 5: did it very yeah there, and Marrick who went on
Speaker 5: to Colorado and got a ten win season at Colorado.
Speaker 5: Those guys have done very well there and they went
Speaker 5: on to move on. But how many coaches at San
Speaker 5: Jose State have We've never heard of because they go
Speaker 5: there and then they're gone.
Speaker 3: And then they're gone, right right right? Well, what's his name?
Speaker 3: The Bouer who went to Fresno State? Right?
Speaker 5: Another?
Speaker 3: Places very difficult to win, and if you win there,
Speaker 3: you can probably win pretty much anywhere. Jed Reyeah. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the people who have are poopoo in that.
Speaker 3: What's your percentage, your personal percentage, personal percentage, I would
Speaker 3: say eighty five percent. Wow, So that's that's a huge
Speaker 3: difference for sixty five and eighty five. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm quitty closer to you because I think he brings
Speaker 3: back the Dick Tomy system.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of feel good about it. Uh. And
Speaker 3: not that Dick tell me was the be all and
Speaker 3: end all, because you know, people want to revise the history.
Speaker 3: But he was very good for this place. And I
Speaker 3: think that Brendan will do the same thing.
Speaker 5: And I think it's just going to come down to
Speaker 5: can you recruit at the power five level and can
Speaker 5: you kind of succeed and make those coaching changes on
Speaker 5: the field in the middle of games, because we don't
Speaker 5: know what this coaching staff is going to do in
Speaker 5: the middle of the game. And in terms of recruiting,
Speaker 5: you know, they've gotten some nice recruits, but if they
Speaker 5: don't land right now, you're going to see recruiting go
Speaker 5: down a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that that that'll happen very obvious because Tson,
Speaker 3: Arizona has not been the mecca for recruiting in football.
Speaker 5: And what Jed did here recruiting wise, might be the
Speaker 5: best recruiting jobs.
Speaker 3: And how did he do that?
Speaker 5: You had playing time, you had open slots and offense,
Speaker 5: you just had guys that wanted to play. And you know,
Speaker 5: you get a guy like tetro O McMillan, who he's
Speaker 5: a five star kid, one of the best high school
Speaker 5: prospects I've seen in a while. But he's a little odd.
Speaker 5: He's not your typical you know, look at me show
Speaker 5: voting five star kid. He wants to be with his friends.
Speaker 3: Right It only it only takes one. I mean, Luke
Speaker 3: found that lightning in a bottle. In one his name
Speaker 3: was Sean Elliott. Uh Lou would have done very well
Speaker 3: without him, But you know what I'm saying, he found
Speaker 3: that lightning in a bottle. He was very good, a
Speaker 3: local kid, and he put the program on his back
Speaker 3: and had good people around him, and they played as
Speaker 3: a team and they won.
Speaker 5: And how quickly did that take Arizona from a slow
Speaker 5: development to all of a sudden you're one of the
Speaker 5: best programs.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was a six year deal, but
Speaker 3: they were good right away. In terms of his after
Speaker 3: his first year at least competitive, and then they became
Speaker 3: an NCAA team, had their lumps in the first round,
Speaker 3: and then they struck gold with his Kerr and that
Speaker 3: group of once in a lifetime group and they did
Speaker 3: really well. And then you become really good, and then
Speaker 3: you begin a team that under achieves. And he did
Speaker 3: eighty nine team in the country and lost in the
Speaker 3: sweet sixteen. Ninety they were pretty good, lost ninety one
Speaker 3: the same thing.
Speaker 5: Could even say ninety four. I know they got to
Speaker 5: the final four, but it's a pretty damn team.
Speaker 3: Good team, pretty good team. But yeah, no, no, no question.
Speaker 3: They weren't going to win the title in ninety four.
Speaker 3: They were fun to play with, fun to watch though
Speaker 3: ninety seven who would have thought, who you know, honestly,
Speaker 3: who would have thought In ninety eight you're thinking, we're
Speaker 3: that's our title, and who.
Speaker 5: Would have thought?
Speaker 3: It's not easy? One o one my best team ever? Yeah,
Speaker 3: no question. And guess what they ran into a better team.
Speaker 3: A couple of bad calls, a couple of injuries that
Speaker 3: shouldn't have happened. Yeah, yeah, well no, yeah, but then
Speaker 3: Gilbert was hurt. I meanly, their best player was hurt.
Speaker 3: And Luke was hurt too, and how do you how
Speaker 3: do you fight with the one hand behind your back?
Speaker 3: And that's kind of what they did. Okay, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: we took enough time for your for your small amount
Speaker 3: of break of news.
Speaker 4: I just wished over to the baseball news last night.
Speaker 4: Now you're red short stop. The Cruise joined a select group.
Speaker 4: He stole his sixtieth base of the season. He has
Speaker 4: twenty home runs as well. He's now the fifth player
Speaker 4: since nineteen You don't one to do that, you have
Speaker 4: a good seasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a he's a fantastic player, you know, just
Speaker 3: a spider of Ale player.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping to go next year when they when they
Speaker 4: come to Arizona.
Speaker 3: Just oh, I saw them. Yeah, I went there. I
Speaker 3: went there and making let me know, because uh, we'll go.
Speaker 3: I went on my boss. We went to go see
Speaker 3: the Reds play up in Diamondbacks in May.
Speaker 4: That's one of those players you want to see in person,
Speaker 4: you know, right right, it's just so.
Speaker 5: Unfortunate for him that just don't have a lot around him,
Speaker 5: I mean, right, wasting talent there right now.
Speaker 4: I just don't have They don't have much of a
Speaker 4: starting pitching. Yeah, you know, nobody does. Really, everybody's injured.
Speaker 4: Switching over to Seattle Manners. They have fired their head coach, yeah,
Speaker 4: Scott Service. They have lost eight of their last nine games.
Speaker 4: Are still in still in the hunt for the wild
Speaker 4: card seven and a half games back, but they they're
Speaker 4: second in the division behind the Astros, so their season
Speaker 4: is not over yet. I'm kind of surprised to see
Speaker 4: them fire their coach so so soon.
Speaker 3: Before the seasons, right, Okay, Little League work Series.
Speaker 4: Venezuela defeated Japan about an hour ago and they advanced
Speaker 4: to the gush. We call it the final four of
Speaker 4: the Little League.
Speaker 3: Oh so who do they play on the international side?
Speaker 4: They're gonna play Asia Pacific, okay, and then currently right
Speaker 4: now Southeast and Mountain are playing their game and then
Speaker 4: the winter that will go on to be the last
Speaker 4: final of.
Speaker 3: The Who's the other side of the bracket for Southwest?
Speaker 3: South Southwest? So that's must be Texas? Okay? Southwest is
Speaker 3: Texas okay, and then you just have Florida or we
Speaker 3: said Mountain Mountain region is that Vegas. Vegas could be
Speaker 3: southwest because they them in Hawaii have been they were
Speaker 3: undefeated a couple of days ago. So you know, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It's fine, it's fine. So did you see
Speaker 3: how much else do you have? What else do you have?
Speaker 7: That was it?
Speaker 3: What did you make of Pete Carroll going back to
Speaker 3: USC there's gonna be a teacher, you know.
Speaker 5: I think it's a nice little story for him to
Speaker 5: go back there and kind of not right, some wrong,
Speaker 5: just a new vibe, a new vibe and get over
Speaker 5: the old stuff, you know.
Speaker 3: Right right, and he's good. I think it'd be a
Speaker 3: good resource for Lincoln Riley to kind of pick his brain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know when you look at Pete Carroll and
Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley had a guy like that, and Bob Stoops
Speaker 5: most coaches are college legends.
Speaker 3: Sure, why wouldn't you and maybe maybe a guy like
Speaker 3: Reggie Bushes around the corner. I mean, you become a
Speaker 3: better coach when you have guys like him, right, him
Speaker 3: and Matt Leoner and some of those others.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know that's kind of what you see
Speaker 5: did back in the pet Carroll day. They had all
Speaker 5: those legends around the program helping people out and work out.
Speaker 3: For what do you make we got about too many stuff?
Speaker 3: What do you make of all the tension? And it
Speaker 3: happens every time with Dion. Uh, he's got a lot
Speaker 3: of tension again as a season progresses. He lost his
Speaker 3: special teams coach without any fanfare. I guess he left
Speaker 3: and then know one we talked about it until they
Speaker 3: found out he was gone. He's just an attention attention guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he seeks it, maybe doesn't, but it
Speaker 3: follows it's Deon.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how to put it any
Speaker 5: other way. I don't think he necessarily is seeking it
Speaker 5: all the time. But when you're Deon Sanders and we're
Speaker 5: that voice vocal, it's the light's going to be fasted
Speaker 5: upon you. It's there. You're not going to hide in
Speaker 5: the shadows, right or are going to talk about you
Speaker 5: all the time, and you want people to talk about
Speaker 5: you all the time. You are always on social media.
Speaker 5: Your program is probably the most talked about program on
Speaker 5: social media. So, uh, you know, not necessarily stuff like
Speaker 5: this is going to happen, but you're always going to
Speaker 5: be in the limelight. You're always going to be in
Speaker 5: the spotlight. And now you have to handle it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and sometimes she doesn't handle it well. No,
Speaker 3: because it's his way. You know, you saw the thing
Speaker 3: from CBS and I'm not talking to you. Yeta YadA.
Speaker 3: Kind of silly. Okay, let's take a break ring and
Speaker 3: get ahold of Ortiz Jenkins and talk more about football.
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Speaker 2: Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sport's fourteen fifty. Right now to
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Wying the ball here on Fox
Speaker 3: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Troy Hutchinson, and
Speaker 3: you're right?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Do I continue to say you're your name wrong Hutchison? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm okay, go buy anything, Okay, okay, just we're waiting
Speaker 3: to call.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get ahold of Ortiz.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 3: He didn't answer, so he's gonna be call us any
Speaker 3: second now. Okay, cool, you gave him the number, right, Okay, cool.
Speaker 3: I look forward to talking to him and we'll get
Speaker 3: about talk about the good old days and then what's
Speaker 3: going on now with him? Ortiz?
Speaker 14: Is this you?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: How are you doing? This is Steve and Troy.
Speaker 7: What's going on? Gentlemen? Sorry for my tardiness.
Speaker 3: No, we're ready.
Speaker 5: We're good.
Speaker 3: Good good. How you doing and what are you up
Speaker 3: to these days?
Speaker 7: Man? I am doing great on a personal training company
Speaker 7: in Long Beach called One Body Strength and Conditioning, And
Speaker 7: I also I'm the president of One Body Youth Foundation,
Speaker 7: which is the nonprofit organization that's built to help some
Speaker 7: of the underprivileged community athletes get college opportunities.
Speaker 3: So nice, what's going on? How does that work? Do
Speaker 3: you have like sponsors or how does that work?
Speaker 7: Oh? Well, you know, we fundraised and try to get
Speaker 7: donations to sponsor our kids. Last Sumber or this past summer,
Speaker 7: we went on I think ten college tours between six
Speaker 7: to ten kids who were all over Colorado, Texas, Arizona State,
Speaker 7: Arizona of course went to Miami, Oklahoma, Ohio State. So
Speaker 7: we fundraised by getting donors to donate to the foundation,
Speaker 7: and then we taken sponsor kids that are potential athletes,
Speaker 7: and then we also do stuff like this summer we
Speaker 7: had summer programs that are free for the kids, strengthening programs,
Speaker 7: the yoga throughout the summer for two months. So it's
Speaker 7: a it's a huge program. The website is up and
Speaker 7: we have a really good thing going and hopefully we
Speaker 7: build on it next year.
Speaker 3: You guys are the kind of like the gurus of
Speaker 3: the quarterback. John Ronnie Veale did this with I'm sure
Speaker 3: he still does it with some pretty good players back
Speaker 3: in Georgia. Right, and now you're doing this. What gave
Speaker 3: you the decision or idea to do this?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 7: First and foremost, I have about ten quarterbacks in myself.
Speaker 7: I have the number one twenty twenty six quarterback, a
Speaker 7: kid named Jaden O'Neill. He's the number one twenty twenty
Speaker 7: six by ESPN. Jaden O'Neill is a quarterback at the Narbone.
Speaker 7: So I've been working with him since he was ten
Speaker 7: years old. Wow, he's a he's committed to the University
Speaker 7: of Oklahoma already. And then we have a group of
Speaker 7: about eight or nine guys, So as coaching and working
Speaker 7: with him, watching some of the guys go play against
Speaker 7: some of these bigger schools that I know, the kids
Speaker 7: had strength and conditioning programs and off season. I wanted
Speaker 7: to have a program where some of the inner city
Speaker 7: schools could get that same opportunity with right training, strength
Speaker 7: and condition and nutrition that can help them be better players.
Speaker 7: And the season comes around and you know, you talk.
Speaker 5: About Jen and O'Neil and going to Oklahoma and whatnot.
Speaker 5: How much different of a process is that now compared
Speaker 5: to when you're being recruited to the Arizona and major
Speaker 5: college decision? How how much more involved of a process
Speaker 5: is now compared to back in the day.
Speaker 7: Uh, it's night and day, guys. It's it's almost almost
Speaker 7: like a year round process. Basically, when the season ends,
Speaker 7: after bowl season, colleges come out and look at the kids,
Speaker 7: at the prospects. We go through. We put on workouts
Speaker 7: at the schools so the colleges can see them work,
Speaker 7: and then they go through seven on seven and then
Speaker 7: they go through the camp season. The camp season is
Speaker 7: in June where you can go to all the different
Speaker 7: camps across the country that the college is put on
Speaker 7: and allows the kids to actually get trained and work
Speaker 7: by the college coaches and you have to visit with
Speaker 7: them and they get a get an ideal, so you
Speaker 7: actually get they're called unofficial visits. You actually get more
Speaker 7: access now because you can do a lot of kids
Speaker 7: do a lot of unofficial visits before they do the officials.
Speaker 7: Like Jaydon O'Neill did probably ten unofficial visits and he'll
Speaker 7: only take one official visit because he liked Oklahoma so much.
Speaker 7: He is not that's where he wanted to go. The
Speaker 7: same thing with me. Man. By the time I got
Speaker 7: the Arizona, I walked on campus, I talked to Dick
Speaker 7: Tommy and Coach Bavers and those guys.
Speaker 3: I was so hop Yeah, no question. So this kid
Speaker 3: was ten who found.
Speaker 7: Whom me and his dad were working together in the gym,
Speaker 7: working together. His dad was one of the trainers that
Speaker 7: I was a managing partner for Crunch and he was
Speaker 7: one of the fitness managers and we hit it off
Speaker 7: from that point on and we've been locked and loaded
Speaker 7: every since. So we kind of found each other. It
Speaker 7: was kind of fake and he said, hey, my son
Speaker 7: might have something and I was like, eh, I don't know,
Speaker 7: okay as a natural throwing motion. And then we go
Speaker 7: from there.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure you've heard that a few time my
Speaker 3: son might have something in the UK. Say well, so
Speaker 3: was he your first, dude or did you already have this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Na, Na, he was the first one. Man. Jaden was
Speaker 7: the first one, and then I didn't take any one
Speaker 7: any more quarterbacks until like the last year to a
Speaker 7: half two years. I was just really kind of working
Speaker 7: with him and then you know, people were like, come on,
Speaker 7: oj just helped me out a little bit. And I
Speaker 7: was like, Okay, if they got a couple of a
Speaker 7: couple of skill sets that I don't have to go
Speaker 7: back and tease and I'll take them. They got a
Speaker 7: little something that I'll help them get through the finish line.
Speaker 7: So that's kind of where we're at now with the
Speaker 7: quarterback training. So it's pretty good.
Speaker 5: How were warning is it? For you to see a
Speaker 5: guy like Jaden, you know that you've developed since he
Speaker 5: was ten years old, now getting the opportunity to play
Speaker 5: at Oklahoma and get that commitment and be in the
Speaker 5: position that he is.
Speaker 7: Now, it's an amazing journey. Their story is a story
Speaker 7: to come out later on down the line, the struggles
Speaker 7: that they went through and just that whole process, and
Speaker 7: then it helped me with the other you know, the
Speaker 7: other eight or nine quarterbacks I got. I mean, I
Speaker 7: got two more twenty six. I have a kid named
Speaker 7: Alex McDean. I'm going to watch in the night, the
Speaker 7: kid named Ashton for now he's at He's at Loola,
Speaker 7: Alex is at Chino Hills. And then I got two
Speaker 7: twenty sevens that are gonna be ready, kid named DJ
Speaker 7: Mitchell and Chance Thommins. And then I got two twenty eights.
Speaker 7: So I got guys that the standard has been set.
Speaker 7: We know exactly what the model looks like, we know
Speaker 7: exactly what the colleges are looking for. I have all
Speaker 7: the relationships with all the offensive coordinators and collar back
Speaker 7: college coaches, quarterback coaches across the country. So now the
Speaker 7: model's been setting, and now it's it's just been great
Speaker 7: to see it. And now we can just trickle it
Speaker 7: down to the other guys and if and the key
Speaker 7: word is if they are power for prospects.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this is maybe a dumb question,
Speaker 3: but don't you don't remember me or whatever I'm willing
Speaker 3: to do? Now what that's gonna say? Troy Troy ten
Speaker 3: years ago or somebody you know? Uh it comes to
Speaker 3: oh teach man. Uh uh, he might have potential. Uh,
Speaker 3: we'll see. Can you turn them into a player? Can
Speaker 3: you do that? Unless what if they have can marginal talent?
Speaker 3: Can you turn them into a vision one guy?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I mean if they if again they have this certain
Speaker 7: for me. For me, there's certain things that I like
Speaker 7: to take on. The certain things I don't they have
Speaker 7: a natural throwing motion, then I'm all about it. Size,
Speaker 7: Uh is another part of it. I mean, I mean
Speaker 7: by size is just more so size and strength necessarily
Speaker 7: size and height, right, because as we know, our quarterbacks
Speaker 7: one of the best quarterbacks in the country and he
Speaker 7: ain't that tall. But but but so I mean by
Speaker 7: but but Noah's stick. He's an athlete, and you got
Speaker 7: a member. Noa's also been a quarterback and being small
Speaker 7: as whole life. So he's been groomed and trained for
Speaker 7: since he was a baby. So we can we can
Speaker 7: always help. But I always bring people out for the workouts,
Speaker 7: and I'm a very honest coach, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 7: if he's got potential, I'll say, hey, he's got something.
Speaker 7: If he needs a little bit of work. I have
Speaker 7: another coach that I work with and I say, hey,
Speaker 7: you might want to go with him first hyping up
Speaker 7: a couple of these things, and then once you get
Speaker 7: through that stage, you can come to me and we'll
Speaker 7: see what we can do.
Speaker 3: So one of the things, and you know this because
Speaker 3: you're with that guy that you can't teach or maybe
Speaker 3: you can't teach this smarts and Noah has that you
Speaker 3: know he has. He's smaller, he knows how to play
Speaker 3: the game. He's very good at what he does. But
Speaker 3: he has something that you can't teach or maybe you
Speaker 3: can't that IQ of football.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he does have a phenomenal football IQ. Because anybody
Speaker 7: that can play in those lanes and create passing visuals
Speaker 7: for him to see down the field is just amazing.
Speaker 7: I think, honestly, to be in my opinion, he's a
Speaker 7: one in one. I don't think he'll ever see anybody
Speaker 7: like that again for a while. I just think he's
Speaker 7: just a special and I think he's mastered how to
Speaker 7: be utilized his strength and stay far away from his weaknesses.
Speaker 7: And I believe he really studies the game. He's a
Speaker 7: true a true student of the game of watching football
Speaker 7: and knowing what he does best and staying in that lane.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny that you use the term one
Speaker 5: of one because when we were talking to Dino Babers
Speaker 5: during training camp, that's exactly how he described McMillan. You've
Speaker 5: been around Dino a long time, you know, you played
Speaker 5: for Dino. How many times have you ever heard him
Speaker 5: say that about a player, because that that seems like
Speaker 5: it's it's a rare theme for him to say something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 7: I haven't, I haven't, I've never, I've never, I've never,
Speaker 7: I've never. I've never really heard him say that or
Speaker 7: rave about that, because you know, there's times that things
Speaker 7: come along that you see something like, man, that's pretty special,
Speaker 7: and Noah's special. I mean t Mac, you know, was
Speaker 7: a five star coming out, so he kind of it
Speaker 7: was kind of already.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean he went and worked for but to see
Speaker 7: the things that Noah's done, you know last year that
Speaker 7: that was like special. And that's where and I went
Speaker 7: and watched games, and I went to the Arizona State
Speaker 7: game I watched. I came down in the spring to
Speaker 7: watch him practice. You know, I've talked to Noah, you know,
Speaker 7: just about you know, just I even asked, man, do
Speaker 7: you not throw with the laces? He's like, man, my
Speaker 7: whole life, I never do with the laces. I'm like, man,
Speaker 7: he so he just got different, a different skill set.
Speaker 7: That is just it's such phenomenal. I am very interested
Speaker 7: to see if we can repeat it this year. And
Speaker 7: if we do, I mean the sky's let me for him.
Speaker 3: Well, oh geez, we talk about this all the time,
Speaker 3: Jay and I and Troy knows about this. Arizona historically
Speaker 3: throughout has a great season one season and they just
Speaker 3: can't maintain another season. You had to deal with that.
Speaker 3: How why does it not happen? Why can it happen?
Speaker 7: Well? The reason why I think that this year will
Speaker 7: be different is because the year that we went twelve
Speaker 7: and one, the following year we lost a lot of
Speaker 7: our interior dogs is what I would call them. This year,
Speaker 7: Noah got four of his five starting old linemen back,
Speaker 7: and he got a top receiver, and they got some
Speaker 7: good running backs. So I mean everything and football gentleman
Speaker 7: starts up front, yep. And that offensive line is a monster.
Speaker 7: And they're they're they're they're veterans. They know what it is.
Speaker 7: He knows them. I don't. I don't expect anything but
Speaker 7: but positivity and a lot of yards and lot and
Speaker 7: a lot of excitement on the offense side of the
Speaker 7: ball because they're gonna dominate the line of scrimmers. Now,
Speaker 7: there's gonna be tough games, of course, but but I
Speaker 7: expect them to come out the gates. You know. I
Speaker 7: think it's a thirty point spread. I think it is
Speaker 7: for the game next weekend. I expect them to for
Speaker 7: surely clear that without question.
Speaker 3: Right right, you know.
Speaker 5: And kind of going back to uh, you know Babers
Speaker 5: in the relationship, there a lot of people, I don't
Speaker 5: want to say we're surprised, but they're pleasantly surprised that
Speaker 5: coach Babers was coming back to Arizona and joining Brett
Speaker 5: Brennan with this coaching staff. Uh you know at Syracuse,
Speaker 5: he had a lot of great years there and he's
Speaker 5: well respected. What makes him the perfect offense coordinator for
Speaker 5: this situation with the talent that Arizona has coming back.
Speaker 7: Well, I just I just think if you look at
Speaker 7: the people that he's coached and he's worked with, I mean,
Speaker 7: he's done at Texas and m he's a Baylor with
Speaker 7: RG three. I mean he's he's he's coached and been
Speaker 7: around some good quarterbacks, good offenses that will be able
Speaker 7: to utilize, you know, and utilize the talent that he
Speaker 7: has and and spread the spread the ball around equally,
Speaker 7: meaning as in, you know, team that's going to get
Speaker 7: his but to be able to utilize the run game,
Speaker 7: the tight ends. Kim Burnett, to me, is going to
Speaker 7: be a big kid. It's going to come out of
Speaker 7: the out of nowhearing people because him and Noah and
Speaker 7: t Mak all played together in high school. So I
Speaker 7: expect the big year out of Kim Burnett. I just
Speaker 7: think him being able to utilize the guys based upon
Speaker 7: his experience and being able to what he's done in
Speaker 7: the past with the programs that he's been at, I
Speaker 7: think that makes it a good fit because he can
Speaker 7: just sit back and call play now. And you got
Speaker 7: weapons too. You gotta you know, you gotta understand as
Speaker 7: off as the coordinator. You got a quarterback, you got
Speaker 7: your offensive lineback, got one of the top receivers in
Speaker 7: the country. Hey, we got to get started, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, we got we got a collective group
Speaker 7: of running backs. I think we are right.
Speaker 3: I don't think I asked you this last time you
Speaker 3: were on the show, but but I asked this of
Speaker 3: athletes like you, you know, big time athletes who are
Speaker 3: no longer athletes. I mean, because you're how do you
Speaker 3: stay competitive?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: You know, how do you get those juices flowing? Or
Speaker 3: is your new job kind of or your job with
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks gives you that?
Speaker 5: It does? It does?
Speaker 7: It's you get the competitiveness to see your quarterbacks go
Speaker 7: against other quarterbacks. Like I said, you know, we went
Speaker 7: across the country and you know, on some on some
Speaker 7: ranking charge Jayden is not the number one quarterback. So
Speaker 7: he's he's top five or top top six or seven
Speaker 7: in the country on any publication. But you just never know.
Speaker 7: It's always good when you go up against other guys
Speaker 7: that they say are the number one guy, or go
Speaker 7: to camps where they say they have these particular quarterbacks,
Speaker 7: so that the energy level and the competitiveness always stays
Speaker 7: there because you want to be able to say, hey,
Speaker 7: the guys that I work with are some of the
Speaker 7: top guys, and it's it's a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 7: The two quarterbacks that I have my two twenty six
Speaker 7: is that that aren't committed yet. This is their year.
Speaker 7: You know, Arizona likes one of them really good. They
Speaker 7: like Alex Medean, the kid. We're going to look at
Speaker 7: it right now that I'm going to go watch today
Speaker 7: twenty twenty six a Chino Hills. So but he's got
Speaker 7: to put it on tape. So that competitiveness about me
Speaker 7: being able to say, I want to bring guys to
Speaker 7: my program, to my school. It's a good thing.
Speaker 3: So if I could real quick, we got a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes. So how would have ortiz Jenkins have benefited
Speaker 3: greatly from this nil stuff? You were born twenty.
Speaker 7: Years to mom, Come on, guys, Yeah enough, If I
Speaker 7: n iow and I was playing, yeah, if it was
Speaker 7: like how it was now, it'd be it'd been fun.
Speaker 7: I the probably needed some help to to keep me
Speaker 7: under control, right.
Speaker 3: People don't talk about it fun. People don't talk about
Speaker 3: that the you know, the kids with money now will
Speaker 3: be be careful, careful?
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean it's like a situation where you said,
Speaker 5: the young player get drafted in the NBA. You're young,
Speaker 5: millions of dollars and you're nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 3: You know, right, do you do you miss the good
Speaker 3: old days?
Speaker 7: You know what, I think it's beneficial for the kids
Speaker 7: to be able to get paid. I mean, you got
Speaker 7: to think about this, joint. Take this in perspective. We
Speaker 7: got paid seven hundred and eighty five dollars a month
Speaker 7: for our scholarship checks when I was there, and I
Speaker 7: thought that was a whole lot of money at the time.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean. Because you're an apartment with
Speaker 7: two other players, you're rent three hundred eachs you get
Speaker 7: to eat for free for the most part. You got
Speaker 7: to think back then general, we didn't get three meals
Speaker 7: a day. We got one meal a day that we played.
Speaker 7: The days we practiced, we got one meal. Now we
Speaker 7: had our little cat car. We can go get food
Speaker 7: on campus, but it's nothing like it is now. So
Speaker 7: I'm all for the kids being able to benefit from
Speaker 7: the nil from the collective aspect of it, to be
Speaker 7: able to make money to where their families can come
Speaker 7: watch games. My mom had to fly herself out to
Speaker 7: to sign every time. Now you're telling me we could,
Speaker 7: you know, make fifty sixty seventy eighty thousands. The top
Speaker 7: players can make a quarter half a million dollars and
Speaker 7: their parents can go to each game without questioning, you know,
Speaker 7: getting this easy to get them hotels all. I'm all
Speaker 7: for that. I'm all for the kids getting as much
Speaker 7: money as possible because we all know that the NCLA
Speaker 7: is getting money and.
Speaker 3: Sold the schools, and you're raising some now in terms
Speaker 3: of the players. So that's good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ortise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
Speaker 7: You guys are off man anytime.
Speaker 3: So I was leg No, you're good. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Good luck with all the kids. We'll get back to you.
Speaker 3: The great stuff, good stuff, good stuff. Let's take the break,
Speaker 3: come back and then talk more about all this stuff.
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Speaker 2: Steve Rivera and Jacin salads they have their eye on
Speaker 2: the ball on Tucson's Sports Stage chat Fox Sports fourteen fifteen.
Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Ian the ball here on Fox
Speaker 3: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's Troy Hutchinson Hutcherson.
Speaker 3: Just annoan the hutchardson annoy end. I'll learn one of
Speaker 3: these days. I gotta say my kid's name right. And
Speaker 3: we've got Ryan. You just gotta remember Ryan's name. Welcome.
Speaker 3: We got about fifteen minutes off anyone who want to call.
Speaker 3: Anybody wants to call five two oho four one, six
Speaker 3: seventy four to forty. I think that was a pretty
Speaker 3: good interview. I've got a couple of texts from people
Speaker 3: saying that we should have off on more. Mean, what
Speaker 3: are we talking about but the same stuff I was
Speaker 3: gonna ask him about the leak by the lake. It's
Speaker 3: an old story, right, but uh, but it's still a
Speaker 3: good story. U and I think we've talked about this,
Speaker 3: that this's the second biggest play in Arizona history. I
Speaker 3: would rank it number one, where you being, I would
Speaker 3: rank it number Oh, don't tell Chuck season that I
Speaker 3: know you kids, What do you guys.
Speaker 5: Led to the greatest season in Arizona football history? A
Speaker 5: little bit different?
Speaker 8: Okay, maybe maybe upset at home and kept them, but
Speaker 8: maybe I don't know is going to have that type
Speaker 8: of season without that play.
Speaker 3: Tavier, give me a call, or Anthony, if you're listening,
Speaker 3: tell Troy he's full of it. I can't tell him
Speaker 3: he's full of it.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Again, well, you kind of make it. You kind of
Speaker 3: make a good point, but I don't know if it's
Speaker 3: a workable point. Maybe top two, Yeah, top two. I
Speaker 3: think he's number two. You know what, I think? What
Speaker 3: do you put?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: What do you put in that? And I'm not the
Speaker 3: football guy, I'm in the basketball guy. Where would you
Speaker 3: put last year's gunner gunner interception? That was huge?
Speaker 5: That was massive? Honestly, that that might be the second
Speaker 5: biggest interception. And you have a district next to.
Speaker 3: We're generalizing too, because you know you have the Hill Mary,
Speaker 3: the Hill Mary, Hill Mary, and you have other things.
Speaker 3: But that was they would they don't win that game.
Speaker 5: When I was up there for that game, you could
Speaker 5: sense that, you know what, this is the drive that
Speaker 5: Oklahoma's going to put Arizona way. You know they're gonna
Speaker 5: go on to win, Arizona's going to have a nice
Speaker 5: nine and four season. Be happy. And you go home
Speaker 5: and they make that fumble slash interception, whatever you want
Speaker 5: to call it. And they rolled to the fumble and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you see blockers in front of them.
Speaker 5: It's like, holy cow, they're going to do this. And
Speaker 5: then the next drive, I think they got to pick
Speaker 5: again real quick by Martell Rby. I think he picked
Speaker 5: off the ball really quick after that. And you just
Speaker 5: saw a different mindset that you haven't seen out of Arizona,
Speaker 5: especially in a bowl game in a very long time.
Speaker 3: And not just a bowl game, a pretty big bowl game.
Speaker 5: A very like on part with Holiday Bowl, a little
Speaker 5: bit lower than Fiesa, but I mean massive bowl game.
Speaker 3: And I was at the Fiesta Bowl in nineteen ninety three,
Speaker 3: ninety four. It's hard to pick a game a key
Speaker 3: play because they kicked the crap out of Miami. You know,
Speaker 3: Miami didn't give a crap in Arizona was pretty good.
Speaker 5: So I mean, I mean, I was at the Fiesta
Speaker 5: Bowl in twenty fourteen, and that felt like Arizona played scared.
Speaker 5: Yespoise State, yeah, played a little dimid sure, and I
Speaker 5: know one knew was banged up and he wasn't the
Speaker 5: same guy. Yeah, But the Alama Bowl in Oklahoma felt
Speaker 5: like Arizona wanted to take it to a major program
Speaker 5: and prove a point that they're they're here, that this
Speaker 5: is their moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I remember twenty fourteen. The only thing that
Speaker 3: got it that was on New and the pick I
Speaker 3: think or he threw a bad pass in the end
Speaker 3: and Rich Rugby it's after the game, you remember the
Speaker 3: press commerce I was driving back with you, so okay
Speaker 3: you were I'm not in the business.
Speaker 5: No, No, it wasn't it. I was up in the nosebleeds,
Speaker 5: freezing my butt off because that was thirty two reason
Speaker 5: slush and Glendale that day, and people from Idaho were saying,
Speaker 5: what the hell you know? We we left Idaho for
Speaker 5: the heat and this is colder than it is in
Speaker 5: Idaho right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, hey, you're in the air. Are you on
Speaker 3: the ball?
Speaker 1: How are you deeed?
Speaker 7: Troy?
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 7: Is Vic?
Speaker 2: Vic?
Speaker 3: What's up? Two days in a row? You must be bored.
Speaker 14: I just wanted to chime in and tell Troy he's
Speaker 14: doing a hallow a job over there.
Speaker 5: Man, I thank you, Jason.
Speaker 3: Well he pipped t one of these days by somebody.
Speaker 14: But you know what, I just wanted to chime in
Speaker 14: and tell you about the recruiting and Troy. You have
Speaker 14: said about bringing t Mac and Jed and the whole bit,
Speaker 14: but you can't leave Less and his wife.
Speaker 7: Out of that deal.
Speaker 14: Man. That was a huge part of this, This recruiting
Speaker 14: class and this team that they have right now.
Speaker 5: Left the feat down well okay, yeah, for sure. I
Speaker 5: mean she was basically a top recruiter for Arizona, you know,
Speaker 5: getting Temac and other Southern California kids to commit. When
Speaker 5: once Noah committed, she was gun ho all about Arizona
Speaker 5: and helped in a major way down the line.
Speaker 14: You know that how many times does that happen?
Speaker 3: Troy?
Speaker 7: Throughout the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't think it happens as much
Speaker 5: as people think. You know, there are parents that are
Speaker 5: heavily involved, but it's usually about their kid and their
Speaker 5: kid only. But being in that Polynesian community like no
Speaker 5: Fafida and many other other players are, it's all about family.
Speaker 5: And you know, they've played with those players through youth sports,
Speaker 5: high school football, and so on and so forth. So
Speaker 5: it's about a family in the community and that that
Speaker 5: was the driving point for them.
Speaker 14: Oh big, big time man. Did you did you listen
Speaker 14: a great show today with our keys and all that.
Speaker 1: That was awesome?
Speaker 3: Did you listen to us at the beginning talking with
Speaker 3: with Mett Moreno, I did.
Speaker 14: I mis mad that was working and I always like
Speaker 14: to hear him.
Speaker 3: Go back, go back and listen to it. And it
Speaker 3: was a lot about nil and kids getting promised money
Speaker 3: and then not receiving it when they get to the school.
Speaker 3: Shock the hell out of me.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's that's tough. I heard the end with Troy
Speaker 14: talking about it and there was no continent. Steve, you
Speaker 14: had mentioned it before, Was there any contract drawn up?
Speaker 14: You had mentioned it months ago about contracts and and
Speaker 14: stuff like that, and and now would said. It's true
Speaker 14: from what Troy and Matt said.
Speaker 5: Right, unbelievable, no paperworking. You open yourselves up to a
Speaker 5: lot of issues.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, thank you Vick, thanks for calling in.
Speaker 7: Okay, you got it.
Speaker 14: I hate Cary off you and Louis soon brother, have.
Speaker 5: A good one. Yeah you know, okay over Broadway?
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay. I saw j J the other day.
Speaker 3: A good dude. He's a good dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, coming back from uh can coom.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was on the road. Yeah, I saw him
Speaker 3: about a month ago. Very good guy, very good guy. Well,
Speaker 3: former sponsor. Okay, anybody else want to call? We have
Speaker 3: ten minutes five two oh four one six seventy four
Speaker 3: forty h We appreciate your call. No, I thought today
Speaker 3: was a very good show, a very good show about
Speaker 3: recruit and and Ortiz was very good. So it's always
Speaker 3: good to have you. I'm not sure we're going to
Speaker 3: be having a show tomorrow. If I can grab a
Speaker 3: player or two from the loot camp, I will, I'll
Speaker 3: bring I'm bring somebody over or have them on the phone,
Speaker 3: because there's a big lineup tonight with those guys.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you how exciting is that for
Speaker 5: you to be able to do that and put this
Speaker 5: together and have that opportunity.
Speaker 3: I'll be I'll be honest because I helped Mike early
Speaker 3: when we started this. Loot was all in right away
Speaker 3: because he'd love seeing his guys.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: It took a hit for me when Luke passed because
Speaker 3: it's the Lttelson camp and he loved being around the dudes.
Speaker 3: So it's taken a hit since he passed and the
Speaker 3: guys come in now. So I'm affected differently because I
Speaker 3: love seeing the guys and and this is the first
Speaker 3: time Sean and and Sean's in town. Kenny and Harvey
Speaker 3: came before three or four years ago, five years ago
Speaker 3: when lout was around up, so it's different, but it
Speaker 3: is cool. They have a great time and dudes like
Speaker 3: you and me playing and they get close and they
Speaker 3: start becoming friends with the guys, you know, Facebook friends,
Speaker 3: giving each other grief on the internet, YadA YadA. Pete
Speaker 3: Williams is one of the greatest guys you'll ever meet.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: And they're all part of my books right, all my
Speaker 3: books that I've done. I've talked to all of them
Speaker 3: about their stories in the program, so to that it's
Speaker 3: very cool. Uh but maybe i'm Jada's not the right
Speaker 3: word and over it's not the right phrase. But with
Speaker 3: Luke not being there, it's different.
Speaker 5: There's something missing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something missing because there's a reason why they're
Speaker 3: here to see him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's kind of how that group and that
Speaker 5: era was was whatever on it, and.
Speaker 3: That's why they came. You know, Hey, it's my chance
Speaker 3: to come and see the dude. And they all have
Speaker 3: great stories if if you bought my book and you've
Speaker 3: read my book, right, they all have fantastic, funny stories
Speaker 3: about the guy that brought him here because you know,
Speaker 3: he was more than the coach he was. He was
Speaker 3: like a dad, like a grandfather, and they were able
Speaker 3: to be honest in terms of, uh, you know, he
Speaker 3: would do this quirky thing, or he do this to
Speaker 3: you know, and but at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: they all loved him. You know. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: and you have a dad like this, and you know
Speaker 3: who I teach you about, because you know, there's a
Speaker 3: lot like my mom. She'd call you on the road
Speaker 3: and what are you doing. Well, I'm just driving, Mom,
Speaker 3: what are you exciting? No, I'm just driving mom. But
Speaker 3: you know, now that my mom is gone, you you
Speaker 3: you kind of appreciate those calls, right, you say, you know,
Speaker 3: oh God, my mouse calling again. Yeah, but you get
Speaker 3: it now. And and your dad is different because she's
Speaker 3: kind of maybe the disciplinarian. H you say, Dad, you
Speaker 3: don't get off me and whatever. But as you become older,
Speaker 3: like you were becoming older, you know what that stuff
Speaker 3: he said for me about fifteen years ago. It makes
Speaker 3: sense now, you know. And that phrase of that phrase
Speaker 3: of my my dad became smarter as I became older,
Speaker 3: It fits tremendously because it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have kids, you're really saying, God, like
Speaker 3: my dad passed a long time, I had kids and
Speaker 3: on taking Dad's laughing at me from heaven because now
Speaker 3: I'm dealing with the crap that that I put him through,
Speaker 3: you know. And paybacks are yeah, they are what they
Speaker 3: are so exactly. So in Jenna, I've said this to
Speaker 3: you when my mom passed to you, because you know
Speaker 3: you you helped me out and enjoy them. Well you
Speaker 3: have them. Yeah, sorry to go philosophical, but you truly
Speaker 3: mean that. Okay, anybody else we have six minutes left
Speaker 3: five two oh four one six seventy four forty So
Speaker 3: a good question about the camp. It's fun. You can
Speaker 3: always go by if you want to hang out and
Speaker 3: then do an interview with the guys that are available
Speaker 3: for Go Easy Cats. So we'll probably have some people
Speaker 3: out there tonight.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, let me know what was I gonna say?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of you know, we talked about the
Speaker 5: little scenario and the father figure that what how much
Speaker 5: do you think that holds true for football during nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety eight and that era of those dig Oh very.
Speaker 3: Very much, San, Now that you said to me, I
Speaker 3: screwed up a question that I should have asked, a
Speaker 3: question I didn't ask is Ortiz because he played for
Speaker 3: Loot and he played for for Dick Tomy and the
Speaker 3: influence on him, if they had an influence, I'm sure
Speaker 3: Dick Tony did, and I'm sure even though he was
Speaker 3: only on the team for a couple of months, how
Speaker 3: that played out. But to your question ninety eight, what
Speaker 3: are you.
Speaker 5: Saying in terms of the father figure atmosphere kind of
Speaker 5: like what lut had throughout his tenure, how much of
Speaker 5: that it holds true for Dictomy?
Speaker 3: In his era, without without question, without question, and I
Speaker 3: called him. I covered him my first three years in Tucson.
Speaker 3: In fact, tomorrow will be my thirty seventh anniverse thirty
Speaker 3: seventh year anniversary when I rolled into Tucson thinking I
Speaker 3: was going to be here for two years. Uh, thirty
Speaker 3: seven years later. He was the father Flanagan. You know,
Speaker 3: he tried to make things right with the kids, you know,
Speaker 3: even the ones that kind of stirred, got away from
Speaker 3: being right or doing things right. Hugged him as he said,
Speaker 3: you got to know when to hug him when it's needed.
Speaker 3: I need know when to kick him in the butt
Speaker 3: when they when they needed it.
Speaker 5: And you know, it was kind of like that way
Speaker 5: on campus for a lot of the coaches. Mike Andrea,
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Andy Lopez Bonasini, Uh.
Speaker 3: Well, and were you here for this time this talk.
Speaker 3: We probably won't take any calls because I asked Carea this, Uh,
Speaker 3: what makes a good coach? What makes a good coach?
Speaker 3: Either you have a good coach or good players? And
Speaker 3: does that help you win titles? Or do you need
Speaker 3: good players? And I'm not so good coach? And what's
Speaker 3: more important? And he talked about being respected uh being players.
Speaker 3: So you you followed these guys as as fans, right,
Speaker 3: what what made what in your I don't throw some
Speaker 3: names that you what made him be who he was?
Speaker 5: Andrea Krea? I think the disciplinary part of that was huge. Again,
Speaker 5: I covered Andrea.
Speaker 3: His last four years and it's different than what it
Speaker 3: was for sure, and.
Speaker 5: You know, but it was a father figure as well,
Speaker 5: even though he was very tough in the beginning of
Speaker 5: his coaching tenure and most of his coaching career and
Speaker 5: kind of very different. Like you pointed out near the end,
Speaker 5: every player that you talk to, they talked to him
Speaker 5: like if he was their father or a grandfather. They
Speaker 5: looked him in that role. Whenever when anybody had a wedding,
Speaker 5: he was there. He's the second the hospital there, whatever
Speaker 5: they're going through there. And that's something that is very
Speaker 5: rare to see in college sports nowadays, and something that
Speaker 5: Arizona had really in mid nineties till mid two thousands
Speaker 5: really going on campus and you're starting to see that
Speaker 5: come about now.
Speaker 3: Right right, Okay, So now any Dopus did you know
Speaker 3: much about him?
Speaker 5: I just the national and adult team watching them go
Speaker 5: through that. Yeah, that was about it.
Speaker 3: A fantastic coach, fantastic person. I think they played a
Speaker 3: lot his players played. You don't win national towns by accident,
Speaker 3: and he won a few. And they played hard for
Speaker 3: him because he respected a hell out of him, a
Speaker 3: very good baseball mind, and I just one of those dudes.
Speaker 3: He reminded me a lot of my father, just because
Speaker 3: you know all these sayings. Someone else is working harder.
Speaker 3: If you're not working hard, somebody else down the road
Speaker 3: is working harder because they want something that you try
Speaker 3: to get. Uh, okay, what about what about Obama? Sini?
Speaker 5: But you were too young for that very the era
Speaker 5: I remember is give me a coach, Give me your coach,
Speaker 5: Mike Andrea of that era, will, okay, give me another one.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's pretty much it. That air because I
Speaker 5: grew up in the Stoops era and Sean transition from
Speaker 5: Luke to Sean?
Speaker 3: And how do you let me say this because you
Speaker 3: covered the Sewan era, this might be a weird question.
Speaker 3: How do you think his players viewed Shot?
Speaker 5: I think they love him. I think there's a love
Speaker 5: hate relationship, maybe more so than Luke, But I think
Speaker 5: a lot of them appreciate him. You know, you saw
Speaker 5: in the media how hard he was on his players
Speaker 5: and how hard he was on them in practices and whatnot,
Speaker 5: and how demanding was But you always see him taking
Speaker 5: photos with guys like TJ McConnell, guys like Aaron Gordon
Speaker 5: and guys that have made it the league, and other
Speaker 5: guys that really haven't. They always go back to them.
Speaker 5: So they're going back. He had to do something right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with you, and to your point,
Speaker 3: the TJ's are are easy. The Aaron Gordon's are easy
Speaker 3: because they didn't make it. What about what about a
Speaker 3: guy like DeAndre What do you think?
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean that's a that's the one
Speaker 5: that's very tough for one and none. But a guy
Speaker 5: like Mark Lyons, he's at Xavier helping him out every
Speaker 5: now and then. Ryan Anderson was here at Arizona for
Speaker 5: one year. He's on his staff at Xavier. So there
Speaker 5: are guys that have been here one for two years
Speaker 5: and they're so around him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well they came for a reason and they came
Speaker 3: for him. Yeah yeah, any other coach stoops. I don't
Speaker 3: think you hear much from someone now and Jed, I
Speaker 3: guess the people who love Jed went with Jed, and
Speaker 3: people maybe who loved him decided to stay.
Speaker 5: Well, and it's a different era again. We talk about
Speaker 5: n L. So yes, you may love a coach, but
Speaker 5: that might not matter.
Speaker 3: Right right, I have a good deal here. Yeah, Okay, Troy,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining me, Thank you for having me. You'll
Speaker 3: be back at some point when Jay. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about a show tomorrow, guys, so keep your eyes out
Speaker 3: for media and Jay's Jay's media my guest for tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Thanks everybody. Thanks Ryan,