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Speaker 3: Billy Cunningham, the Great America, welcome this Monday afternoon in
Speaker 3: the Tri State all as well. The reports of my
Speaker 3: demise are somewhat premature. It's not true. You can't believe
Speaker 3: what Sloaney says. I am the Way, the Truth, and
Speaker 3: the Light, not Sloaney. But that's a different issue. Jonan,
Speaker 3: You and I now is the great Rob Sanders Sanders
Speaker 3: for Kentucky. Colonel Sanders for Kentucky may step up and
Speaker 3: take over the Senate seat. And Rob Sanders, welcome again
Speaker 3: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Colonel how are.
Speaker 2: You, Willie? I'm doing well.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back on this Monday. It's nice
Speaker 4: of you to sub for Ken Brew today and you
Speaker 4: know fill in. Yeah, you're a very addequate fill in.
Speaker 4: It's nice to have the great American substituting for the
Speaker 4: average American.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm back, loud, proud, and sassy, and let's talk.
Speaker 3: First of all, we're gonna talk about Mega versus McConnell,
Speaker 3: Not Mike McConnell, but Mitch McConnell. Well, we'll deal with
Speaker 3: that in the second half. But of course, when I
Speaker 3: was monitoring events all over the world, I see that
Speaker 3: you had a bank robbery happening on sixth in Madison,
Speaker 3: a US bank on Friday afternoon. Just in time, get
Speaker 3: you home by six or seven pm at night. Tell
Speaker 3: the American people what happened with the shootout on the
Speaker 3: mean streets of Comington.
Speaker 4: Well, Covington police were called to the US bank, as
Speaker 4: you mentioned, at six and Madison. The initial call was
Speaker 4: for a bank robbery that was ongoing, with the subject
Speaker 4: trying to rob the bank with a can of gasoline.
Speaker 2: That was a first for me.
Speaker 4: Never had anybody rob a bank by Arson and Kenton
Speaker 4: County since I've been around here.
Speaker 2: But then in the.
Speaker 4: Middle of that, while officers were responding they got updates
Speaker 4: that the suspect also had a gun and had displayed
Speaker 4: a gun, so they knew they were going to encounter
Speaker 4: an armed bank robber. At that point, to A Covington's
Speaker 4: Finest arrived on the scene. Actually a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: them arrived on the scene, but one of them stayed
Speaker 4: at the bank and some folks near the hotel. Covington
Speaker 4: flagged the other two officers down and were pointing down
Speaker 4: an alley that is between Madison and Scott Street, six
Speaker 4: and seven streets. It's an east west alley in there,
Speaker 4: saying the guy you're looking for went down there to
Speaker 4: A Covington's Finest went down that alley where they encountered
Speaker 4: Charles Davis, who is sixty two years old. He's from
Speaker 4: right here in Covington, believe or not, on Scott Street.
Speaker 4: The biggest chakra of this whole story, Willia, is that
Speaker 4: he wasn't from Ohio. Nevertheless, mister Davis was walking down
Speaker 4: the alley dropping money as he went.
Speaker 2: There was money blowing all over the alley.
Speaker 4: With the officers were coming down to apprehend mister Davis,
Speaker 4: he pulled what appeared to be a handgun from his pocket,
Speaker 4: and the two Covington officers opened fire and striking mister Davis.
Speaker 4: He fell to the ground, but didn't stay on the
Speaker 4: ground very long. Went for the gun again while he
Speaker 4: was on the ground, causing the officers to discharge their
Speaker 4: weapons a second time. They eventually charged mister Davis, took
Speaker 4: him into custody, got him in medical attention, Covington Fire
Speaker 4: Department took him straight over to University of Cincinnati Medical Center,
Speaker 4: where they are remarkably good at patching people back up
Speaker 4: from gunshot.
Speaker 2: Wounds, which only creates more work for me, Willie.
Speaker 4: But nevertheless, we'll be happy to take care of mister Davis,
Speaker 4: although he might end up getting charged federally. The FBI
Speaker 4: actually showed up on the scene, which is a rather
Speaker 4: new thing. It must be this new leadership at the FBI, Willie.
Speaker 4: But they're getting back in the bank robber business and
Speaker 4: may actually be prosecuting somebody, which is welcome.
Speaker 2: James.
Speaker 4: We're always willing to share the wealth here in Kenton
Speaker 4: County when it comes to crime, and if our friends
Speaker 4: in the federal government want to prosecute mister Davis for
Speaker 4: robbing us bank, we certainly welcome them back. To Kenton County.
Speaker 4: It's you know, funny Willie. When I started out as
Speaker 4: an assistant prosecutor, the FEDS took every bank robbery, and
Speaker 4: then it dropped down to, well, only bank robberies with handguns,
Speaker 4: and then it dropped down to, well, only if it's
Speaker 4: a serial bank robber. And we really haven't seen much
Speaker 4: federal prosecution when it comes to bank robberies in the
Speaker 4: past few years. But it seems now that that is
Speaker 4: going to change. I can only assume that that is
Speaker 4: a newfound change brought on by the Trump administration and
Speaker 4: Cash Bettel being in charge of the FBI and Pam
Speaker 4: Bondi being in charge of the Department of Justice. But
Speaker 4: we welcome them back to the bank robbery prosecution business.
Speaker 3: I rob sixty two years old. I assume this is
Speaker 3: at his first rodeo because it's rather stupid what he did. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: he's going to live, which is another problem. But I
Speaker 3: guess the FBI is going to quit rating the home
Speaker 3: of ex presidents tipping CNN ahead of time. What they're
Speaker 3: going to do maybe get back in the business of
Speaker 3: bank robberies and forgeries and and and bezel on that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But is mister Davis, is this his
Speaker 3: first rodeo at the age of sixty two years old
Speaker 3: with a gallon of gasoline?
Speaker 4: Well, he surprisingly will he has no felony convictions here
Speaker 4: in Kentucky. Now, I haven't had a chance to run
Speaker 4: his enc IC yet to find out if he's got
Speaker 4: some across the river. Maybe he's a transplant from Cincinnati,
Speaker 4: and that's why I'm surprised to learn that he was
Speaker 4: living here in Covington. But nevertheless, I don't know if
Speaker 4: he's been convicted of a felon he's in another state.
Speaker 4: That'll be part of the ongoing investigation, of course, which
Speaker 4: may not land on my desk. It sounds like, but
Speaker 4: we'll see.
Speaker 3: You're more than a happen to give up the case.
Speaker 3: You got enough to do, right, We got plenty.
Speaker 4: Of work going on over here, Willie. We got all
Speaker 4: kinds of rapes, robbery's, child molestings, the murders, you name it.
Speaker 4: They you know, is for a safer town as Kenton
Speaker 4: County is. We still have plenty of prosecution business to
Speaker 4: be done. I'm starting to trial tomorrow in fact, so
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: We sit pointing.
Speaker 4: That's why we're willing to share the wealth with our
Speaker 4: friends in the federal government, if you know, whenever they
Speaker 4: want to prosecute somebody, all they have to do is
Speaker 4: let us know.
Speaker 3: So inside the bank you have a handgun and a
Speaker 3: can of gasolene. Kind of walk us through what happened
Speaker 3: at the teller station that Did he threaten to maybe
Speaker 3: shoot the gallon of gasoline to blow it up?
Speaker 2: Did he?
Speaker 3: Why bring gasolene when you got a gun? Get into
Speaker 3: the mine in Charles Davis.
Speaker 4: Well, I haven't seen the video from inside the bank yet, Willie,
Speaker 4: but just based upon the radio traffic that the dispatch
Speaker 4: center was putting out to the police officers, he apparently
Speaker 4: was threatening to light the can of gasolene on fire,
Speaker 4: sort of blow the bank up, I suppose by lighting
Speaker 4: a can of gasolene on fire and himself. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure exactly how that was supposed to work out,
Speaker 4: but that's what they were being told over the radio
Speaker 4: as police were responding, and then as they were on
Speaker 4: their way to the bank, that's when the dispatchers told
Speaker 4: the responding officers that he had a gun. Now, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure I believe this gun may turn out to
Speaker 4: be a fake gun. I've seen some pictures of what
Speaker 4: was taken into evidence, but it certainly looks.
Speaker 2: Real enough that if I were the officers.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be waiting around to find out if it
Speaker 4: was real or fake when that gun's pointed at you
Speaker 4: and you're looking right down the barrel, if it doesn't
Speaker 4: have a fluorescent orange tip on the end of it
Speaker 4: or something. And even sometimes then because lord knows, we've
Speaker 4: had criminals in the past that have made, you know,
Speaker 4: painted their guns up to look like toys to try
Speaker 4: and trick the police. But nevertheless, this one didn't look
Speaker 4: just like a handgun. It was dark, it had a barrel,
Speaker 4: it was pointed right at the officers, so you know,
Speaker 4: it's no wonder. It's said old saying that Fafodo Willie,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna play stupid games, you're gonna win stupid prizes.
Speaker 4: Mister Dave is lucky to be alive. He's lucky that
Speaker 4: they have just fantastic doctors and nurses over at University
Speaker 4: Hospital that managed to save people's lives on a regular.
Speaker 2: Basis, and as often as people.
Speaker 4: Get shot on the north side of the river, that's
Speaker 4: a really good thing. But nevertheless, it does mean more
Speaker 4: work for the prosecutors on the south side of the
Speaker 4: river when the person getting shot is a bank robber,
Speaker 4: and so.
Speaker 3: Rob Sanders, when you take someone across the Ohio River,
Speaker 3: Tony Bender may not know this extradition is involved, and
Speaker 3: so you have to gunshot wounds. If you get a
Speaker 3: gunshot wound, get to University Hospital, you got a good
Speaker 3: shot of living. Unless you're a Cabaca Abba. That's a
Speaker 3: different story. So when you take a bank robber who
Speaker 3: is shot to U see medical, what is the process
Speaker 3: to get him back to Kenton County, Well, you hit on.
Speaker 2: A very important point.
Speaker 4: Willie University Medical Center is the only eleven one trauma
Speaker 4: center within probably one hundred miles of here, or real
Speaker 4: close to one hundred miles. The next closest one is
Speaker 4: University of Kentucky Medical Center down in Lexington, which I
Speaker 4: always try and talk to fireman and a driving them
Speaker 4: to Lexington so I don't have to extraduie them back
Speaker 4: to Kentucky. But I don't know to saving people's lives,
Speaker 4: I guess comes above more work for Rob Sanders in
Speaker 4: the fireman's mind, because they always go and take them
Speaker 4: to UC. But then we have to get warrants for
Speaker 4: those people's arrests. We're not allowed to just drive back
Speaker 4: across the river and put them in handcuffs and drive
Speaker 4: them back to Kentucky.
Speaker 2: We have to get warrants for their arrest. We put
Speaker 2: the warrant in NCIC, then.
Speaker 4: Get our friends at the Cincinnati Police Department or Hamilton
Speaker 4: County Sheriff's Office to serve those warrants and take them
Speaker 4: to the Hamilton County Justice Center. And even though it's
Speaker 4: just a few blocks away, Willie, they have to sit
Speaker 4: there in the Hamilton County Detention Center until they get
Speaker 4: a court appearance, and they can waive extradition, which means
Speaker 4: the Kenton County sheriffil drive over in the next day
Speaker 4: or two and pick them up, or they can fight extradition,
Speaker 4: in which case it could take.
Speaker 2: Months to get them back.
Speaker 4: And we have to call our friends down at the
Speaker 4: Governor's office and get a governor's warrant and send that paperwork.
Speaker 2: It's a whole lot of work, whole.
Speaker 4: Lot of paperwork, all sorts of red tape just to
Speaker 4: get somebody a few blocks north across the river. But nevertheless,
Speaker 4: those are all the hoops we have to jump through.
Speaker 4: It's no different bringing them back from Cincinnati as it
Speaker 4: would be from Hawaii or or any other corner of
Speaker 4: the United States. It doesn't matter how near or far
Speaker 4: away that dependent is. If they're on the other side
Speaker 4: of the state line, we have to jump through all
Speaker 4: these hoops to extradite them back to Kentucky.
Speaker 3: And Saint E's is a great hospital. Hell I was
Speaker 3: born there. But nonetheless, if they're not being designated a
Speaker 3: trauma Level one, if you don't take them to the
Speaker 3: best facility, you could be accused of not caring sufficiently
Speaker 3: for this shot bank robber by taking him to a
Speaker 3: hospital not designated by National Institute of Health as a
Speaker 3: Level one trauma center. I get that now. Secondly, as
Speaker 3: you may know, Tony Bender's good friend, Mitch McConnell has
Speaker 3: decided not to run for reelection. I'm not sure he's
Speaker 3: going to make it alive till next year, but that's
Speaker 3: another issue. And when I talked to Mega types, they
Speaker 3: tell me this is going to be the Battle Royale
Speaker 3: because the Trumpster does not want to have someone like
Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell represent Kentucky in the US Senate. Because Mitch
Speaker 3: McConnell's turn to the dark side. Of course, Trump won
Speaker 3: Kentucky by thirty percentage points, but that's lost on Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 3: and so it's going to be Mega versus McConnell, Mega
Speaker 3: versus McConnell. Who wins that matchup?
Speaker 4: Willie, That's a really confusing question, because you know, there's
Speaker 4: everybody in the race, at least everybody that's rumored to
Speaker 4: be getting in the race so far, has got connections
Speaker 4: to both Trump and to McConnell. Especially when you're talking
Speaker 4: about Daniel Cameron. You know, when he ran for governor Kentucky,
Speaker 4: he had Donald Trump's endorsement, much to the chagrin of
Speaker 4: some of his opponents who thought that they were going
Speaker 4: to get the Trump endorsement and did not. He came
Speaker 4: out in favor of Daniel Cameron. Now Daniel Cameron's running again.
Speaker 4: But of course Daniel Cameron got his start in politics
Speaker 4: by being general counsel for Senator McConnell. So obviously he
Speaker 4: is very close to Senator McConnell. But everybody involved has
Speaker 4: been closing. Senator McConnell's been involved in Kentucky politics pretty
Speaker 4: much synonymous with federal Kentucky politics for the last thirty
Speaker 4: forty years. So it's very different cult to find anybody
Speaker 4: who can make it on a stage that large where
Speaker 4: they could be a viable candidate for the US Senate
Speaker 4: in Kentucky that doesn't have some kind of connections to
Speaker 4: the McConnell network and the McConnell network. Even though Mitch
Speaker 4: McConnell has gotten sideways, I would say with the bulk
Speaker 4: of the Republican Party, most of whom are very strong
Speaker 4: supporters Donald Trump here in Kentucky of late, he still
Speaker 4: has a very large network. He's had hundreds of people
Speaker 4: that have worked for him as either interns or students
Speaker 4: or along the way. The McConnell's scholarship program in Kentucky
Speaker 4: is very well known. Lots of the people that receive
Speaker 4: McConnell's scholarships go on to work in Senator McConnell's office.
Speaker 4: Needless to say, this isn't so much to pat him
Speaker 4: on the back as it is as much to articulate
Speaker 4: just how broad his network is. So even though he
Speaker 4: is on his way out the door, there are a
Speaker 4: lot of people that are very fond of Senator McConnell.
Speaker 4: Who are very influential in Kentucky pics in.
Speaker 2: Their own rate.
Speaker 4: And so it'll be very interesting to see whether Donald
Speaker 4: Trump endorses in the Senate race, whether Mitch McConnell endorses
Speaker 4: in the Senate race, and where the McConnell network gets
Speaker 4: involved when he they call it the McConnell machine, and
Speaker 4: it will be interesting to see if that machine is
Speaker 4: united behind one candidate or if they're fractured and broken
Speaker 4: up behind multiple candidates, which certainly is the possibility if
Speaker 4: multiple candidates with McConnell connections jump in the race.
Speaker 3: Well, of course, Tony Bender of Boone County loves Andy Bascher,
Speaker 3: the current governor, And of course there's reports that Bescher
Speaker 3: is going to jump out of the He's got two
Speaker 3: more years to serve that he's going to run for
Speaker 3: the Senate seat. So give me a matchup, Andy Bascher
Speaker 3: versus Cameron, Andy Bscherer versus Scott Jennings, this CNN contributor
Speaker 3: Andy Bascher versus Rob Sanders, the Colonel or Andy Bascherer
Speaker 3: versus Tony Bender. Does Andy does Bascher win that thing?
Speaker 4: I don't think Basher jumps in at all, Willie, And
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. I think he's hoping to run
Speaker 4: for president in twenty twenty eight, and if he runs
Speaker 4: for Senate and loses, his chances of being the Democratic
Speaker 4: nominee for president go way down. Now, as you know, Willie,
Speaker 4: I'm not exactly the biggest Andy but Sheer fan in
Speaker 4: the world. I don't think he's got a shot, a
Speaker 4: prayer anything to be president of the United States. But nevertheless,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people in the Democratic Party in
Speaker 4: Kentucky and a lot of people in the Democratic Party
Speaker 4: nationwide that I don't know if they just haven't met
Speaker 4: Andy Basheer, because he's about as exciting as as white toast,
Speaker 4: but they think he's got a shot at president. I
Speaker 4: think he thinks he's got a shot at president. So
Speaker 4: I don't think he jumps in the Senate race at all,
Speaker 4: and that's why he's trying to keep his powder drive
Speaker 4: for the presidential race. Nevertheless, if he were to change
Speaker 4: his mind and jump in the Senate race, it would
Speaker 4: be interesting. I think Scott Jennings could be a very formidable,
Speaker 4: formidable opponent to anybody. I don't know that he's got
Speaker 4: the name id, but I've seen him on TV before
Speaker 4: He is very sharp witted, very intelligent, very varianced when
Speaker 4: it comes to politics. He's been involved in campaigns, usually
Speaker 4: more behind the scenes for decades, but he's got his
Speaker 4: own PR company that's very adept at running campaigns, and
Speaker 4: the folks down there acus they really know what they're doing.
Speaker 4: I think Andy Barr has done a good job staying
Speaker 4: elected and re elected in his congressional district, which encompasses
Speaker 4: a lot of the Lexington area, which is one of
Speaker 4: the few blue holdout locations. You know, Lexington's much more
Speaker 4: politically similar to Hamilton County or Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: More specifically, it's very blue.
Speaker 4: Yet Andy bar keeps getting elected down there, so I
Speaker 4: don't think you can discount his chances. And then you
Speaker 4: never know if another congressman from Kentucky, like our own
Speaker 4: Thomas Massey, or like Jamie Comer, might jump in the
Speaker 4: race as well, so it could get very crowded, it
Speaker 4: could get very messy. As we've already mentioned, Daniel Cameron's
Speaker 4: still hanging out and everybody's been knowing he's been eyeing
Speaker 4: that seat since he lost the governor race. But that
Speaker 4: you know that lost in the governor race makes him
Speaker 4: vulnerable Willy. It's you know, some people smell blood in
Speaker 4: the water, and that might factor into Andy Basheer's decision too.
Speaker 4: He could change his mind if he thinks that Daniel
Speaker 4: Cameron is going to be the Republican nominee. He's probably
Speaker 4: sitting there thinking to himself, well, I already beat him once,
Speaker 4: why wouldn't I beat him again? But this will probably
Speaker 4: be a very different risk because when we're talking federal
Speaker 4: politics as opposed to state politics, you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: a whole different ballgame because we're not just talking about
Speaker 4: who's given out the big FEMA checks or who's holding
Speaker 4: their drinks with Andy or whatever he called his press
Speaker 4: conferences every day during COVID. I think, generally speaking, your
Speaker 4: average voter in Kentucky looks at the governorship and thinks
Speaker 4: they would do far less damage if they elect a
Speaker 4: Democrat governor as opposed to electing a Democrat to the
Speaker 4: United States Senate.
Speaker 2: Of course, donated legislature.
Speaker 3: We got a big question for you. Of course, you're
Speaker 3: an honorary Kentucky colonel, as I am. Colonel's for Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Even though the headquarters have left the Louisville I love
Speaker 3: the KFC products. Could you possibly, as Colonel Sanders, run
Speaker 3: in Kentucky and put a chicken in every pot? Is
Speaker 3: that a possibility?
Speaker 2: It's always a possibility, Willie.
Speaker 4: But the biggest downside about that is I've spent the
Speaker 4: last eighteen plus years now building the Commonwealth Attorney's Office
Speaker 4: into the best felony prosecutor's office in Kentucky. And if
Speaker 4: I leave, guess who gets to appoint my replacement. Andy
Speaker 4: Baser would get to appoint my replacement. I wouldn't trust
Speaker 4: him to point one of the fine assistants that work
Speaker 4: for me. I've got a number of them here that
Speaker 4: could run my office if anything were to God forbid,
Speaker 4: happened to me. But it doesn't. Just you know, it's
Speaker 4: not like having a lieutenant governor or a vice president
Speaker 4: where they automatically assumed control of my office. If anything
Speaker 4: happens to me, or if I run for US Senate
Speaker 4: and win, my vacancy would be filled by the Andy
Speaker 4: Basheer himself, and I would have no control over who
Speaker 4: that person was. And the last thing I'm going to
Speaker 4: do is turn Kenton County in the Comal with Attorney's
Speaker 4: Office over to some George Soros loving type to be
Speaker 4: a liberal voice in the prosecutor's office. That's the last
Speaker 4: thing kent me neat.
Speaker 3: I think a fried chicken in every pot will make
Speaker 3: a lot of sense to me, Colonel, but we got
Speaker 3: to run. We'll see what happens. Scott Jennings, I love
Speaker 3: that guy. I've met Daniel Cameron under your leadership seems good.
Speaker 3: And nonetheless Andy Barr would be fine too. It's just
Speaker 3: Kentucky's got to stay Republican because the next four years
Speaker 3: is going to be rough no matter who's in office.
Speaker 3: Once again, Colonel Rob Sanders of Kentucky, thanks again for
Speaker 3: coming on the Bill Cunningham.
Speaker 2: Show, Willie. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 4: And hey, let me know when you hear which game
Speaker 4: Vanilla Ice will be playing at this year at the
Speaker 4: Reds Games, and you know we'll attend his concert together.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the schedule yet.
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to talk to the powers that
Speaker 3: be Karen Kraft and let's do it. We'll be dancing
Speaker 3: on our leisure suits looking.
Speaker 2: Good, excellent, Willy. I look forward to it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Rob Sanders for Kentucky at fried chicken in
Speaker 3: every pot and the coleslaw All on news radio seven
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