Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.
Speaker 2: I need to start off the four o'clock hour by
Speaker 2: apologizing to my partner here, Austin Montgomery. I just really
Speaker 2: I forgot that. You know, whenever we we do when
Speaker 2: we're working remotely, I turn on my webcam, and you know,
Speaker 2: in fact, it's the same thing even if I am
Speaker 2: in studio, because if I'm in studio doing the show
Speaker 2: in the same building, we're actually in different rooms, so
Speaker 2: we see each other view through a web through a
Speaker 2: camera rather than you know, the window like they used
Speaker 2: to do back in the old school rainew days. So
Speaker 2: whenever I'm at home, it's the same thing. I just
Speaker 2: pop up on my webcam. Well, I forgot where the
Speaker 2: webcam was, and I just realized as I leaned over
Speaker 2: to plug in my charger for my phone, and then
Speaker 2: I dropped it and I couldn't get it, couldn't get
Speaker 2: it plugged in because it's right next to the outlets,
Speaker 2: right by the couch here. I just had my rear
Speaker 2: in directly in the camera for like thirty seconds.
Speaker 3: I did not even pay attention.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, okay, good, but you're probably thinking, damn it,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna yell anyways. I thought.
Speaker 3: Just for scientific purposes.
Speaker 2: Oh man. So yeah, I didn't realize it. But there's
Speaker 2: a slight delay when I move fast. So like when
Speaker 2: I see my my camera, you know, it's a slight delay.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Maybe it's slow connection. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: But when I quickly turned around to sit down, I
Speaker 2: looked at my camera and it hadn't caught up just yet,
Speaker 2: for like a millisecond, I just saw my ass right
Speaker 2: there on the.
Speaker 3: Screen a moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do have pants on, but yes, something
Speaker 2: like that. So great, let's let's get the second hour
Speaker 2: started here on a Monday. It's coffee and company, fueled
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Speaker 2: ninety Louisville dot Com. A lot of reacting to the weekend,
Speaker 2: and of course a lot of reacting to the weather,
Speaker 2: because we did, in fact get a lot of snow
Speaker 2: over these last couple of days. Not only did the
Speaker 2: meteorologists I feel like, get it almost exactly right as
Speaker 2: far as the amount. They also got the timing down.
Speaker 2: I mean, sure enough. I woke up on Sunday morning
Speaker 2: at about eight thirty and there was already a good
Speaker 2: layer of snow on the ground and it really never
Speaker 2: stopped until later on in the afternoon. And then of
Speaker 2: course it turned to that sleep freezing rain stuff ice
Speaker 2: and you know, got colder, and then this morning there
Speaker 2: was a good amount of snow that came down. So
Speaker 2: obviously that's impacted a lot of people's schedules, and we
Speaker 2: probably don't have the exact same audience today. But you
Speaker 2: know what, maybe we got people that are out working
Speaker 2: today because they can't take the day off, so they're
Speaker 2: still in their daily commute and they still have us
Speaker 2: as part of their daily rotation. If that's the case,
Speaker 2: thank you. But you know, however, you're listening wherever you're listening,
Speaker 2: we appreciate you, and just know you can always listen
Speaker 2: live on the iHeartRadio app. I'm gonna keep propping this
Speaker 2: up because I want this to become a huge part
Speaker 2: of the show, and that is the talkback feature in
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. So again, I know a lot of
Speaker 2: you have probably heard me mention enough and you're thinking,
Speaker 2: shut the hell up, Nick, we get it, we know
Speaker 2: what it is. Well, maybe there's some that weren't paying attention.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to remind you once more. If you
Speaker 2: listen to the show on the iHeart Radio app, all
Speaker 2: you have to do is click the red button in
Speaker 2: the top right little record button, and you can you
Speaker 2: can share something with us thirty seconds. You can ask
Speaker 2: a question, give a take, You can insult me if
Speaker 2: you'd like, You can make a joke. I mean, you
Speaker 2: really can do whatever. I don't know if it's all
Speaker 2: going to be played on the show, but you can
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. I want to really make this
Speaker 2: a because I think this is great. Not only I mean,
Speaker 2: I know I sound like a company man here, but
Speaker 2: like this, this is I think the better way to
Speaker 2: have interaction from your listeners via their voice, right, like
Speaker 2: the text line's great. Twitter. Heck, I used to read
Speaker 2: emails on this show until not that long ago, and
Speaker 2: then I realized probably don't need to keep mentioning that
Speaker 2: that's a way for you to be a part of
Speaker 2: the show. But anyways, you know, people just don't call
Speaker 2: into shows like they used to, and really it's not
Speaker 2: great radio at times. Not to say the people who
Speaker 2: call our show don't contribute, but it's just, you know
Speaker 2: it call in talk shows this day and age, like
Speaker 2: I would say postgame shows where it's raw and it's
Speaker 2: as soon as the game is ended. Like those I
Speaker 2: think will always exist in the way that they do
Speaker 2: just because of what that medium is. But when it
Speaker 2: comes to just wanting to be able to share your
Speaker 2: opinion with somebody who knows, you know, the subject you're
Speaker 2: talking about, and they're probably on their platform radio, they're
Speaker 2: going to let you share what you think to others
Speaker 2: that you know might have a similar opinion or you know,
Speaker 2: just are in the know with whatever you're discussing. Back
Speaker 2: in the day, long long time ago, you didn't have
Speaker 2: a Twitter account that you couldhide behind and just say whatever.
Speaker 2: You didn't have social media, The Internet didn't exist. Well,
Speaker 2: there was no text line, So like, you know, that's
Speaker 2: how think about this, Austin. If you wanted to share
Speaker 2: an opinion on sports with somebody live in real time,
Speaker 2: reaching other people who have interest in what you know
Speaker 2: you have interest in, yeah, the only way to do
Speaker 2: it was to call in on a live talk show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you couldn't.
Speaker 2: You couldn't. I mean, there's the end of social media.
Speaker 2: You know, it didn't exist. Like you can go door
Speaker 2: to door if you want, you can go to a
Speaker 2: sports bar where the game's on, but like you know
Speaker 2: that that clearly is just not where we are anymore. Therefore,
Speaker 2: people don't feel the need to pick up the phone
Speaker 2: and wait on hold. And I mean people don't even
Speaker 2: call anybody anymore, right, like people text yeah so and
Speaker 2: again that's why the text line has has certainly become
Speaker 2: a huge part of how we interact with listeners of
Speaker 2: this show. And I know we're not alone, I know
Speaker 2: it's everywhere, but this is because I think there is
Speaker 2: something about getting a different voice, different voices I should
Speaker 2: say that I think just gives you that feel of
Speaker 2: a radio show. And look, we're still going to take calls,
Speaker 2: trust me, I'm just stating I'm trying to. I think
Speaker 2: the talkback feature for those that listen live on the
Speaker 2: Art radio app like that could be a convenient way
Speaker 2: for people to contribute to the show, and it's easier
Speaker 2: for them, and it's easier for us to just hit
Speaker 2: play and I can filter through what you know, what
Speaker 2: what should be played on the show, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So again, you don't even have to sign up for anything.
Speaker 2: You don't have to, Like, you don't have to, We don't.
Speaker 2: We won't even have your phone number. Like, all I
Speaker 2: see is just we've got an eighteen second fourteen second
Speaker 2: talk back clip and you know, I'll play them during
Speaker 2: the break and then decide which ones I feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, are worthy of hearing. And trust me, you
Speaker 2: got a better chance of getting on the air if
Speaker 2: you insult me. That's that's good show fodder.
Speaker 3: Man, it's great.
Speaker 2: And we don't take ourselves call you a card boy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't take ourselves too serious around here.
Speaker 4: So another programming teaser, just because we may for listeners
Speaker 4: that definitely want to try to take advantage of the
Speaker 4: red talkback mike feature is and we I do it
Speaker 4: on my stations too. There's going to be probably giveaways
Speaker 4: in the future that require you to go on and
Speaker 4: use the talkback mike feature, So we do that on
Speaker 4: other stations, and that could make its way to seven
Speaker 4: ninety two.
Speaker 2: Austin, you just gave me a great idea. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I again, I really want to make this, make this
Speaker 2: a thing, and there's no better way to do it
Speaker 2: than saying, hey, if you want to win tickets to
Speaker 2: go see this awesome band that's coming to town, you
Speaker 2: want pass this still Louder than Live or something. Yes,
Speaker 2: that'll get them. That'll get him using the talk back,
Speaker 2: and then it'll just become routine for him, exactly. That'll
Speaker 2: next time we have a giveaway. That's what we're doing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta. We'll ask a trivia question and the first
Speaker 2: people that can, you know, get the first person that
Speaker 2: can get through on the talkback with the right answer,
Speaker 2: then they'll win.
Speaker 3: So that's right.
Speaker 4: Instead of having us battle this guy called first, this
Speaker 4: guy called first, does does he even have the right answer?
Speaker 3: We just skim through really really quick.
Speaker 4: Play this fourteen second clip, eighteen second clip, ten second clip.
Speaker 4: They can even insult you why they're answering it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean again, I'm pretty good at
Speaker 2: laughing at myself. I developed that skill at a young
Speaker 2: age and probably not good for my mental health. Maybe
Speaker 2: it says a lot more about me than I realized,
Speaker 2: But hey, I am who I am, and at this
Speaker 2: point probably not going to change much, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: getting older.
Speaker 3: Iron sharpens iron, all right.
Speaker 2: So I mentioned the school closing and how or the
Speaker 2: school closings and how as a kid, I really really
Speaker 2: enjoyed the thrill of waking up and running to the
Speaker 2: TV and looking at that bottom ticker. And I knew
Speaker 2: they did it in alphabetical order. And I knew once
Speaker 2: we got to certain counties like Breckenridge, bullets up next.
Speaker 2: What are we getting? I mean, if anything, maybe give
Speaker 2: you a two hour delay. Come on, come on, I
Speaker 2: need something. I'll just give me something, because I feel
Speaker 2: like you stuck it to the man. If you got
Speaker 2: a snow day, even if it's an hour, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: kind of feel like you won.
Speaker 3: It's like you're waiting for your horse to come.
Speaker 2: Mother nature had your back when you didn't want to
Speaker 2: go to school for a day or maybe miss an
Speaker 2: hour to whatever it may be. So if we got
Speaker 2: to Carroll County and Bullet wasn't on there, then I
Speaker 2: knew I had to. I had to make that long
Speaker 2: walk from the living room to the bathroom to get
Speaker 2: ready for you know, shower and leave, and it was just,
Speaker 2: you know, wasn't fun. So but but on the text line,
Speaker 2: you know, I I kind of feel The reason I
Speaker 2: mentioned my age is that, like I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like I'm not a boot. You know, there are people
Speaker 2: that are grown ups, not that much you know, younger
Speaker 2: than me, that they didn't even get to experience that
Speaker 2: because by the time they were in school you could
Speaker 2: still see it on the bottom ticker. And in fact,
Speaker 2: I was watching the news last night. It's still the thing.
Speaker 2: But that has got to be that's got to be
Speaker 2: one of the ways people find out that they're out
Speaker 2: of school the least, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: if you're seeing it there, you know, I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like if you are a student, if you have
Speaker 2: a kid in the school system, if you are a teacher,
Speaker 2: you work there, you're gonna there's gonna be some kind
Speaker 2: of an automated message or some kind of a social
Speaker 2: media thing, some kind of app that tells you. And look,
Speaker 2: if you get a snow day, you get a snow day.
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of, you know, having a moment here
Speaker 2: thinking maybe I am getting old because this person says, Nick,
Speaker 2: I'm thirty two years old, not that much younger than you,
Speaker 2: And I never relied on the local television station ticker. Wow,
Speaker 2: they did they not have the internet back then? Look,
Speaker 2: they had the Internet, but like it was in its
Speaker 2: weird stage.
Speaker 4: Like I mean you had to be paid for it
Speaker 4: or be subscribed to the end world dial up.
Speaker 2: Or so we're talking. Like by the way, I graduate
Speaker 2: high school in two thousand and so maybe by then
Speaker 2: it wasn't you know, No, I know, I gotta be honest,
Speaker 2: I think it was, like I was gonna say, maybe
Speaker 2: by then we were a little bit you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: in the tech world. But no, like smartphones had kind
Speaker 2: of just become a thing to where like when you
Speaker 2: would look think about this, you can update a website
Speaker 2: and in fact, you can create and manage an entire
Speaker 2: website without using anything other than your phone yea or
Speaker 2: a tablet. Like back then, to update websites you needed
Speaker 2: to be on a physical computer. So like and also no, no,
Speaker 2: I mean, like this is I hope I'm not making
Speaker 2: people laugh by saying this, because it's just the reality
Speaker 2: of it. Like, not everybody that I grew up with
Speaker 2: had the Internet, Like, so if you could. You know,
Speaker 2: we're at a point now where if you tell somebody
Speaker 2: in order for them to be able to get information
Speaker 2: they need to go to a website. Now it's just
Speaker 2: like there's really no I mean, unfortunately, there are people
Speaker 2: I guess that still can't access it if you don't
Speaker 2: have a phone, if you're without a home or something
Speaker 2: like that. But like society at least has the standard of, hey,
Speaker 2: you can get the info online, Like at this point,
Speaker 2: figure it out, you know what I'm saying. Back then,
Speaker 2: like imagine telling hey, we're gonna update everybody again this
Speaker 2: there are people a lot older than me listening and
Speaker 2: they're like, gosh, this guy thinks he's old. He sounds
Speaker 2: like an idiot. It's not that long ago. But there
Speaker 2: are people listening that are like Austin's age and younger
Speaker 2: that are like, wait a second, not everybody had the internet,
Speaker 2: because look, the Internet when I was young, it wasn't
Speaker 2: a phone thing. Now all people think about the Internet
Speaker 2: is that do they have access to data on their
Speaker 2: iPhone or their smartphone or like this is another thing
Speaker 2: that used to drive me crazy. When people would say
Speaker 2: my wifi's out, my WiFi is not working, they would
Speaker 2: refer to wi fi as Internet. It's not right, it's
Speaker 2: not that so like I had Internet long before WiFi existed.
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's just you know, everybody you get
Speaker 2: accustomed to wherever we are in the digital world at
Speaker 2: the time you're old enough to have a phone that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But like back to what I was saying,
Speaker 2: when it comes to school system, it would have been
Speaker 2: a national story if the school system I went to
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine or in two thousand and two
Speaker 2: told every parent in order to get updates on school closings,
Speaker 2: you need to have that you need to go to
Speaker 2: the website, because there'd be a lot of people that
Speaker 2: one would feel like that's insane. And also there'd be
Speaker 2: people that claim I don't have the Internet, like we don't,
Speaker 2: we don't, Like there are people believe it or not
Speaker 2: that when the Internet like became a thing even and
Speaker 2: it's like tiny, like even when like when you had
Speaker 2: the AOL CD ROM discs or whatever, like back then
Speaker 2: that thought, yeah, this won't work. Nah, this is probably
Speaker 2: just be a phasey I'm out, I'm not in the Internet.
Speaker 2: It won't there's no way it'll it'll be able to
Speaker 2: you know, once everybody gets on it. There won't be
Speaker 2: enough bandwidth or whatever, like, it won't work well, clearly
Speaker 2: it works. It's a huge part of what we do
Speaker 2: in every way, and that's how we get all of
Speaker 2: our information now, I mean, but back then, you know,
Speaker 2: back in my day, we were lied on the TV
Speaker 2: and the ticker. So to answer your question, smart ass,
Speaker 2: I'm thirty seven, and I don't think it's that uncommon
Speaker 2: for people around my age to you know, used to
Speaker 2: to not be as young and and and you know,
Speaker 2: hip like you to where you could get at you
Speaker 2: could get information on your phone or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: But if you're that, if you're that much younger than me,
Speaker 2: like when you were a little kid, I guarantee you
Speaker 2: because what do you say thirty one or thirty two?
Speaker 2: Which one is? You said thirty one or thirty two
Speaker 2: on the text line. I'm thirty seven, It's like we're
Speaker 2: not that far off in age, so we're like I
Speaker 2: would imagine either you grew up in a different world
Speaker 2: than I did, a different planet maybe that had some
Speaker 2: you know, tech advances that I wasn't privy to. But yeah,
Speaker 2: hopefully those of you that got a snowday today, if
Speaker 2: you're a teacher or maybe you enjoyed the snow day
Speaker 2: with your kids, have fun because you're getting one tomorrow too,
Speaker 2: And actually, did did they cancel school for Wednesday as
Speaker 2: well in JCPS?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I kind of think they did, which seems a little
Speaker 2: bit premature, but you know, with the power outages and
Speaker 2: it not getting warm enough for any of this to
Speaker 2: melt on its own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of that. That's gonna be the worst.
Speaker 2: Part, no doubt about it. All Right, So we talked
Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit about the NFL playoff matchups.
Speaker 2: We've got the Super wild Card weekend, some really good games.
Speaker 2: Also talked a lot about Lousll's twenty point victory at Virginia.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm now looking at the rest of this
Speaker 2: schedule feeling as if this Louisville team can I mean
Speaker 2: right now for what it's worth, then nothing, because they
Speaker 2: got a lot of basketball to be played, and they're
Speaker 2: clearly gonna need to finish strong to feel like they're
Speaker 2: safely in the tournament. But for those that do assess
Speaker 2: the bracket every day and give you bracketology, as silly
Speaker 2: as it is to some, because you know, it's there's
Speaker 2: no point in really trying to get I mean, I guess,
Speaker 2: I mean I'm a s guilty as anybody looking at
Speaker 2: these check ins, but like clearly, Louisville being in the
Speaker 2: tournament today if it started doesn't mean anything. They got
Speaker 2: to finish strong. But right now everybody has them in,
Speaker 2: not even as like the first four or the last
Speaker 2: four in. I think the lowest I've seen them is
Speaker 2: like the next four out or I'm sorry, yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so not that you know. I guess eighth team is
Speaker 2: what I saw yesterday from Brackettville, Like they're the eighth,
Speaker 2: Like there's seven teams that would that would be out
Speaker 2: before they would be out. And and the game against
Speaker 2: Clemson tomorrow that's huge. I mean, that's one of the
Speaker 2: You've got momentum in a major way. You're at home,
Speaker 2: you fresh off of five star commit two good wins
Speaker 2: against Virginia in Carolina. And I'm not even saying good
Speaker 2: wins because like those teams are great, but Louisville just
Speaker 2: played really well and didn't need to shoot well from
Speaker 2: the three to really take care of their opponents. So
Speaker 2: tomorrow's huge against Clemson. So we'll get back into the
Speaker 2: Louisville hoops stuff coming up here shortly, but I do
Speaker 2: want to acknowledge the Kentucky result from Saturday, because you know,
Speaker 2: I kind of stopped saying it because you know, it
Speaker 2: may not have ever been funny, and it really wasn't
Speaker 2: meant to be funny. I wasn't trying to make a joke.
Speaker 2: But make no mistake about it, Cala Perry in Kentucky,
Speaker 2: that was a breakup. Bb In and Cal broke up.
Speaker 2: They got divorced, and it was not as ugly as
Speaker 2: I guess it could have been, certainly not the ugliest
Speaker 2: divorce out there, but both sides knew, Hey, we had
Speaker 2: a great run, and I know you'll find somebody else,
Speaker 2: but we just need you know, we need to cut
Speaker 2: ties because you're great. But this just it's its course.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for something new. You're ready for something new.
Speaker 2: You know Cal's now sleeping on the couch and not
Speaker 2: in bed with BBN. Maybe you know, maybe he's out
Speaker 2: late saying he's working, but maybe you know they had
Speaker 2: drifted apart. It needed to happen. The change needed to happen.
Speaker 2: So that's why I kept saying early on Kentucky's winning
Speaker 2: the breakup because they beat Duke. Cal didn't have a
Speaker 2: great start in the first few games in Fayetteville and
Speaker 2: now here. We are early January, less than a month
Speaker 2: until these two teams play each other and Cal brings
Speaker 2: Arkansas to up and Kentucky isn't winning the breakup. They've
Speaker 2: won the breakup. I mean, I guess there's a scenario
Speaker 2: that Pope flames out or Cal ends up getting hot
Speaker 2: and really thriving at Arkansas, But those two things I
Speaker 2: think are very unlikely. I don't know what the ceiling
Speaker 2: is for Mark Pope. I mean, I think he can
Speaker 2: win a title there, because every coach that's coached there
Speaker 2: has for the most part, but those don't come easy.
Speaker 2: But he's not gonna have the first round losses that
Speaker 2: Cal has, and he's gonna win games like he did
Speaker 2: against Florida. I mean, Kentucky's got a guy who is
Speaker 2: quite literally, I think, perfect for that job. I hate
Speaker 2: saying it makes me kind of sick. Austin looked at
Speaker 2: me dirty when I said it just now, But like
Speaker 2: it's they have a really good coach and they're going
Speaker 2: to lose games. Who knows how deep they're going to
Speaker 2: go in the tournament this year? Again, who knows if
Speaker 2: he's going to win a title, because again, those things
Speaker 2: don't happen that often, but like they have to feel
Speaker 2: phenomenal about where they are in every aspect right now
Speaker 2: compared to where they were with Cal and it and again,
Speaker 2: like make no mistake about it, Cal getting his ass
Speaker 2: kicked by Rick Barnes again, this time it being at Arkansas,
Speaker 2: not at Kentucky, and then him acknowledging that he didn't
Speaker 2: do a shoot around and maybe he should have done
Speaker 2: a shoot around, Like all the stuff that Cal did
Speaker 2: that you became very very annoyed by and led to,
Speaker 2: you know, you wanting to have the separation. He's now
Speaker 2: doing it with less success at a place like Arkansas,
Speaker 2: and you've got a guy who you know understands that
Speaker 2: the job is bigger than him. And I'd say Kentucky
Speaker 2: basketball fans right now probably feel better right now than
Speaker 2: they have in a long long time. I wish it
Speaker 2: wasn't the case, but you know, I'll real call it
Speaker 2: like it is. I think you could say the same
Speaker 2: for Louisville fans because you know, a little bit of
Speaker 2: a different situation, in fact, a very different situation. But
Speaker 2: like you know, both fan bases I think feel pretty
Speaker 2: good right now. Which as much as we like to
Speaker 2: rovel with one another, and it's always great for louisvill
Speaker 2: fans when they're great in Kentucky stinks and vice versa,
Speaker 2: when both are heading in the right direction and both
Speaker 2: are generally speaking doing well to where they're believed to
Speaker 2: be two of the better programs in the sport. Clearly
Speaker 2: Kentucky's there now Loisvel's got a ways to go. But
Speaker 2: like that's better for the rivalry to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: So all right, quick break, we'll come back on the
Speaker 2: other side. Keep this thing rolling along. It's Coffee and Company.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are many of you that had to
Speaker 2: go get out and be out on this weather the
Speaker 2: last couple of days, had to work, had some things
Speaker 2: to do, whatever. Maybe maybe you just didn't want to
Speaker 2: stay home, so you know, you probably needed to get
Speaker 2: some fuel, probably needed to you know, wash off your
Speaker 2: windshield a little bit, maybe move some of that snow
Speaker 2: that keeps dripping down on your windshield and freezing up.
Speaker 2: So you probably stopped in Ato Thorntons to do that,
Speaker 2: didn't you, Because that Thornton's isn't closed on days like
Speaker 2: this or even yesterday or tomorrow. They're open, They're they're
Speaker 2: there for you. Many locations in the Kentucky and area
Speaker 2: certainly appreciate our friends over at Thornton's. And as you know,
Speaker 2: we are proudly fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk
Speaker 2: seven ninety. All Right, so the NFL now has five
Speaker 2: jobs open. I believe there's been some coaches fired. Obviously,
Speaker 2: there's been coaches fired long ago that that the job's
Speaker 2: been open, right like the Who's who got fired? Mid season?
Speaker 5: The Jags is open, but they just fired Maron today.
Speaker 5: The Patriots open coach got fired. Eber Flus got fired.
Speaker 5: Robert Salaberes. I'm shocked Doug Peterson made it to the
Speaker 5: end of the season.
Speaker 2: I know. I think though at this point may like
Speaker 2: somebody getting fired like Black Monday. I feel like more
Speaker 2: often than not, it's become a thing. And it's not
Speaker 2: just the NFL that has like the black whatever day
Speaker 2: that therefore they just claim that that's where coaches careers
Speaker 2: die because they get fired. It's every sport that usually
Speaker 2: if you're going to make a move, you do it
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, immediately after the season comes to an end.
Speaker 2: But I think in the NFL it's been more routine
Speaker 2: to where if you survive Black Monday, you're going to
Speaker 2: keep your job, right because they know, like nobody's making me.
Speaker 2: And I guess technically you could get rid of somebody
Speaker 2: who flames out early in the playoff because you knew
Speaker 2: expectations were high and they should have been a lot better.
Speaker 2: So I guess there has been instances where that's happened.
Speaker 2: But I kind of feel like there's already kind of
Speaker 2: a big there's gonna be a big off season for
Speaker 2: coaching jobs. And maybe I'm wrong, because again, I know
Speaker 2: there's changes made every single year, but I think when
Speaker 2: you look at the Bears, the Patriots, the Jets, the Saints.
Speaker 4: Somehow Brian Dabile retained his job over in New York, I.
Speaker 2: Think I'll be honest with you, I think he deserves another. Well,
Speaker 2: they were bad last year, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were bad last year afterlous contract. Yes so so,
Speaker 4: but he did make the playoffs and he souped up
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2: And they whenever he whenever he gave them some success
Speaker 2: that clearly didn't sustain it this year. You know, they
Speaker 2: had been terrible forever. Like, people don't realize that the
Speaker 2: Eli Manning era ended really poorly and that they were
Speaker 2: awful for a while after that. So you know, I
Speaker 2: think I can understand why they To me, I would
Speaker 2: understand if you're the Giants, you saw enough where he
Speaker 2: did get you competitive. He did some things with the
Speaker 2: guy that clearly isn't going to be in the league
Speaker 2: much longer, Daniel Jones. He probably had no decision he got.
Speaker 2: First of all, he got sequan when he was injured
Speaker 2: a lot, which isn't his fault, and he certainly wasn't
Speaker 2: the one that made the decision to let him walk.
Speaker 2: So like I could see Dave Ball And this may
Speaker 2: sound crazy to a Giants fan who you know, hates
Speaker 2: him and whiches he was gone, but I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like that that the Giants could see him as
Speaker 2: a guy. Look, we we know this was bad, but
Speaker 2: a lot of it's not on him, and if we
Speaker 2: let him go, someone will hire him and he may
Speaker 2: crush it, and we don't want that scenario to happen.
Speaker 2: So I think it makes sense for them to keep
Speaker 2: him unless they knew they had somebody ready to go
Speaker 2: that they knew would be in fact better. The Colts
Speaker 2: keeping their whole circus intact is not at all surprise,
Speaker 2: and it was expected by fans. However, I do see
Speaker 2: like there's been a lot of talk in the NFL like,
Speaker 2: are you kid me? They're not making any changes? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you realize who owns the team? Do you realize that,
Speaker 2: like what's going on that we don't care the Colts?
Speaker 2: And I'm getting off track here, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: vent the Colts are really one of the worst franchises
Speaker 2: in the NFL as far as like do you really
Speaker 2: like who are you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: They have only been good because of Luck. I mean,
Speaker 2: they got two first round picks and Peyton Manning was
Speaker 2: one of them, and without him, you're nothing, and they
Speaker 2: no pun intended. They got very lucky when they were
Speaker 2: able to go from from Peyton man to Andrew Luck.
Speaker 2: They got really lucky. And then Andrew Luck retired and
Speaker 2: you've really since then, you've seen a team an organization
Speaker 2: basically show that they they don't know who they are.
Speaker 2: They they have an identity crisis because they don't have
Speaker 2: an identity without those two guys, and they they don't
Speaker 2: have a commitment to one thing or the other. They
Speaker 2: they've actually again not been the worst team. Again, there's
Speaker 2: something to be said. I suppose by having, you know,
Speaker 2: it be a real rarity that you're not alive for
Speaker 2: potentially getting in the playoffs. But like it shows that
Speaker 2: you think that that's good enough because you you know,
Speaker 2: you didn't even tank when you got Richardson. You just
Speaker 2: you tried to be better than that and that's as
Speaker 2: good as you could be. So you ended up taking
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson every other year that for the most part,
Speaker 2: they're they're competitive enough to where they don't get a
Speaker 2: good draft pick and they don't do anything in the
Speaker 2: playoffs or they or they or they completely embarrassed themselves
Speaker 2: and their and their fans when they you know, all
Speaker 2: you got to do a couple of years ago is
Speaker 2: not lose to the Jaguarars who had one seat, who
Speaker 2: had one win all season, and then you lost to
Speaker 2: them to close out the regular season, kept you from
Speaker 2: the playoffs. You're in a live for the playoffs in
Speaker 2: Week what sixteen whatever it was last weekend and you
Speaker 2: do what you lose to the Giants, giving the Giants
Speaker 2: their only win on their home field all year, and
Speaker 2: you did an embarrassing fashion. You may Drew Locke look
Speaker 2: like Peyton Manning of old, like the Colts are an
Speaker 2: absolute joke. They've benefited from two guys, and I think
Speaker 2: Dungee deserves some credit as well. But outside of that, man,
Speaker 2: this franchise doesn't know who they are. Or maybe I'm
Speaker 2: a bitter fan who does know who they are. They
Speaker 2: know who they are. They're telling me who they are,
Speaker 2: and I'm the one having a crisis year. I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm on the couch at the therapist's office, like
Speaker 2: that's what this is. They're telling us. No, we're going
Speaker 2: to keep the band together. I mean yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: we were almost a playoff team this year. What are
Speaker 2: you talking about? Like they they they're telling us actually
Speaker 2: that this is this is who they are. Like it
Speaker 2: or not? What are you going to do? And I
Speaker 2: don't know the answer to that. I guess just be
Speaker 2: sad and be miserable because they're they're telling us, in
Speaker 2: fact who they are. It's not an idea. I keep saying, Oh,
Speaker 2: they don't they don't know who they want to be.
Speaker 2: Do they want to be terrible and really get a
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback again and admit that they were wrong about Richardson?
Speaker 2: Or you know, do they want to you know, keep
Speaker 2: just you know, keep the ceiling at eight non wins,
Speaker 2: maybe sniff the playoffs because in their eyes, they're looking
Speaker 2: at Richardson and thinking, hey, we've been able to kind
Speaker 2: of hide him here and there. You know, we actually
Speaker 2: still wont some games this year, Like we're winning. What
Speaker 2: do you mean, what's the issue? Why wou't we draft
Speaker 2: another quarterback? We haven't gone in the tank in two
Speaker 2: straight years. We you know, haven't found ourselves in the
Speaker 2: bottom ten of the league like they're telling us who
Speaker 2: they are. And I just, I guess, more than anything,
Speaker 2: I'm having a tough time accepting it anyways. Of the
Speaker 2: open jobs here, Austin Montgomery, I'm your agent. You want
Speaker 2: to get an NFL job? All these franchises want you?
Speaker 2: What franchise? Am I calling back? Am I calling back
Speaker 2: the Patriots? Am I calling back the Bears? Am I
Speaker 2: calling back the Jags? Am I calling back the Saints?
Speaker 2: Am I calling the Jets? Who do you want me?
Speaker 2: Is your representation to or to to to get a
Speaker 2: deal together for you to become their next head coach.
Speaker 2: I got to keep in mind where they are right
Speaker 2: now today.
Speaker 4: I think out of all those teams you named, are
Speaker 4: all disasters. I think that the Saints of their salary
Speaker 4: cap situation has finally caught up to them. Their ownership
Speaker 4: has been weird. They got a bunch of an aging
Speaker 4: roster out of all of them. I kind of like
Speaker 4: the Patriots. They're gonna have a top ten pick this
Speaker 4: next year. I think they found their guy. Drake May
Speaker 4: kind of started off a little bit rough, but he
Speaker 4: came into it at the end of the year. Now,
Speaker 4: granted they didn't you know, they didn't even give draw
Speaker 4: mail till a Black Monday. They just said screw him
Speaker 4: at the end of yesterday's game. I think, and I
Speaker 4: thought that they had probably one of the worst rosters,
Speaker 4: but they're young, they have cap space. I like them
Speaker 4: over my God, the Jets and I don't know, I
Speaker 4: guess you could probably say the Bears in there too.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me, as a Minnesota fan to say,
Speaker 4: because you got Caleb Williams, you still really don't know
Speaker 4: what's there. But he also the last year has been
Speaker 4: coached by eber Flues, who's a defensive guy. And when
Speaker 4: you go for a save our franchise quarterback like that,
Speaker 4: you need to have someone that works with them on
Speaker 4: the daily, someone that has an offensive mind, something that's
Speaker 4: gonna work in this NFL. So I probably have to
Speaker 4: say the Patriots or the Bears. And the Bears have
Speaker 4: obviously they had a great draft class last year and
Speaker 4: because they just got everything from Carolina, so that's gonna
Speaker 4: be Those are two intriguing teams where I could see,
Speaker 4: if they get the right head coach, then we'll see
Speaker 4: what kind of damage they can do next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it really comes down to do you
Speaker 2: have some decent stuff to work with immediately or do
Speaker 2: you have some decent, decent things coming your way, like
Speaker 2: the you know, a top five draft pick. So uh,
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you know, because I was surprised that
Speaker 2: Mayo got fired. So I was, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people were, I think, so it probably came down to
Speaker 2: they're not just doing it because they think he's lousy.
Speaker 2: They're doing it because they know who they have. And
Speaker 2: I'd heard people saying that it was it was Mike Rabel.
Speaker 2: But I guess it's actually awesome. Montgomery, Now that's right.
Speaker 2: You make the move to be a the gummery. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's what you.
Speaker 3: Were, too big beffy football guys.
Speaker 2: So I can't tell if vrabel's like a really really
Speaker 2: good coach or he's like, put it this way, Dan
Speaker 2: Campbell and Verbel. Campbell's a little more goofball, right Vrabel.
Speaker 2: But but they're but they're the they're the they're the
Speaker 2: football guys.
Speaker 4: Football guys, right, They're they're culture setters. They're not like
Speaker 4: the greatest, they're not like the masterminds on offense or defense,
Speaker 4: but in terms of taking a group of men and
Speaker 4: getting them to fight for one thing, those are they
Speaker 4: were exactly one and the same.
Speaker 2: So I like with with Campbell, you know, because he
Speaker 2: had he had what a decent season, gave him some
Speaker 2: life and that got attention, and then I think they
Speaker 2: were down and and people were kind of making fun
Speaker 2: of his gimmicky stuff. And then in the last couple
Speaker 2: of years they've been phenomenal. I think at the time
Speaker 2: Campbell was still kind of just getting attention for being,
Speaker 2: you know, the guy that he is. The Brandy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Vrabel was doing what beating Lamar Jackson in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So therefore, you know, I think people thought Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: is UH. You know, Mike Rabel is essentially who Dan
Speaker 2: Campbell wishes he could be that kind of football guy.
Speaker 2: But man, his teams play tough and they're good. Well,
Speaker 2: now it's completely reversed to where I still feel like,
Speaker 2: of those two, one of them is not a great coach. UH,
Speaker 2: And I would say right now, clearly the momentum is
Speaker 2: with is with UH, is with Dan Campbell, with Rabel,
Speaker 2: like I get why he's a you know, because that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff matters. Man, Like, when you're an NFL
Speaker 2: head coach, there's a lot that you have to you know,
Speaker 2: have on your resume to qualify and whatnot. But what
Speaker 2: you are is, you know, you're kind of a peer
Speaker 2: a GM, kind of not a GM because GM is
Speaker 2: a different job and it is important. And if you're
Speaker 2: not the GM, which most NFL coaches aren't, like you know,
Speaker 2: that is a different role. So maybe I shouldn't used
Speaker 2: as an example, but like you are, you're the coach,
Speaker 2: but you're kind of the captain more than the coach,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how to say it, like you're
Speaker 2: not disciplining guys in the NFL as a head coach,
Speaker 2: and if you try to run your program like some
Speaker 2: hard ass like Bill Belichick did for a long time,
Speaker 2: like that's just not going to work anymore. These guys know, hey,
Speaker 2: you are, They're they're not going to get rid of me.
Speaker 2: You know what they're paying me. They'll get rid of
Speaker 2: you and get another version of you, because there's a
Speaker 2: billion of you out there, Like you have to not
Speaker 2: kiss ass, but you've got to be relatable. They've got
Speaker 2: to respect you, and of course you have to know
Speaker 2: what you're doing. But I think that's why, in really
Speaker 2: all aspects of professional sports, there's still are some exceptions
Speaker 2: out there of guys who are who have like Tomlin.
Speaker 2: Tomlin can be Tomlin until the day Tomlin doesn't want
Speaker 2: to coach anymore. Because he's proven that he's respected, Guys
Speaker 2: want to play for him. Everybody would want to play
Speaker 2: for him. But I think if like a guy came
Speaker 2: in now with no credentials, with no resume, the same
Speaker 2: as Tomlin and tried to lead an NFL franchise like that,
Speaker 2: I don't think it would go well, now maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, they would buy in because they respect him,
Speaker 2: because he's got the right intangibles that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So you know, Rabel, he's the guy that he can
Speaker 2: look at his players in the locker room and they'll
Speaker 2: know he's been where they've been. And it's not necessarily
Speaker 2: about like if you've never played, they think you don't
Speaker 2: know anything. I'm sure there is some of that to
Speaker 2: an extent, but it's just kind of about you know,
Speaker 2: like that you've been, you've been in the trenches, right,
Speaker 2: You've you know, you're somebody that can't speak to the
Speaker 2: experience in the career that or you know, maybe not
Speaker 2: the same career, but the same industry essentially, and you
Speaker 2: know that, Like that's why guy like Steve Kerr. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure Steve Kirk can coach basketball or not. That
Speaker 2: sounds like an insane thing to say, and there's there's
Speaker 2: clearly some hyperbole there. But Steve Kerr went from being
Speaker 2: an annoying, smug announcer to just going and sitting on
Speaker 2: the bench and letting Steph Curry and Klay Thompson shoot threes,
Speaker 2: two of the best shooters that he ever playing on
Speaker 2: same team at the same time, and then Draymond Green's
Speaker 2: out there punching people and taking cheap shots like you know,
Speaker 2: like that that's and Andrea Agudalad was still in a
Speaker 2: really good place in his career whenever Kurt took over.
Speaker 2: So you know, you kind of just got to be
Speaker 2: able to manage personalities, egos, you gotta coat, you gotta
Speaker 2: no little ball, clearly, but she kind of just got
Speaker 2: to get out of the way. Yeah, if in fact,
Speaker 2: you're in a really good situation. So you know, when
Speaker 2: I see some of these candidates out here, so here
Speaker 2: is the predictions that are out there. So Rabel is
Speaker 2: the guy that people expect to be hired by the Patriots,
Speaker 2: and I think again that would make sense as to
Speaker 2: why they made the move when they did. And the Jets,
Speaker 2: Rex Ryan, what do you think about that?
Speaker 4: Like I've been hearing about that for a while now.
Speaker 4: I can totally see that.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, Like it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: you're like really again, but then you quickly think, why not?
Speaker 2: It's the Jets they were better with than they've ever been, right,
Speaker 2: Like maybe not that. Let me back up, Jets fans,
Speaker 2: I know they were not Their best era was not
Speaker 2: the Rex Ryan era, but post Rex Ryan they've been terrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were actually making the playoffs with the extra.
Speaker 2: So the Saints are gonna hire Joe Brady. I don't
Speaker 2: think that'll go well, but we shall see. He's certainly
Speaker 2: been in line for a job for a while now.
Speaker 2: And the Jaguars are set to hire Aaron Glenn according
Speaker 2: or that's the prediction that's out there.
Speaker 3: N's DC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he'll be next in line, and then the
Speaker 2: Bears Cliff Kingsbury. Gotta be honest, I think it would work.
Speaker 3: Probably he's done a master forul job to watch.
Speaker 2: I think it would work. I think it could work.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, we'll be back that. I was
Speaker 2: gonna say that, and that's what they need, right If
Speaker 2: they still believe in Caleb Williams, then they have to
Speaker 2: have a guy that like. That's gotta be one of
Speaker 2: the biggest intangibles for them in this hire. Okay, somebody
Speaker 2: who we know would get the most out of this
Speaker 2: guy's talent. Two West Coast guys clearly of great offensive mine.
Speaker 2: So all right, we gotta run quick break. We'll come
Speaker 2: back and wrap up the four o'clock out right here
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Speaker 2: We are wrapping up the four o'clock hour here on
Speaker 2: a Monday afternoon. Stay a nice and cozy as it
Speaker 2: is still freezing outside and there's a lot of snow.
Speaker 2: We'll get back into that coming up here in the
Speaker 2: five o'clock hour. However, I do want to let you
Speaker 2: know if you are somebody that would really like tickets too,
Speaker 2: and I need to get this out as quick as possible,
Speaker 2: if you want tickets to the Louisville football game or
Speaker 2: the Louisville basketball game Tomorrowgaan's Clemson, which by the way,
Speaker 2: is a really really important game for Louisville, and I
Speaker 2: do think attendance could be a real concern given the
Speaker 2: fact that the weather we've had recently, and it's only
Speaker 2: going to be colder in these next two days. So
Speaker 2: if you will go to Twitter right now, go to
Speaker 2: my Twitter account at the card Connect, or if you
Speaker 2: follow Rick Keeber, of course a big supporter of U
Speaker 2: of L, and he's been supporting this program for a
Speaker 2: long long time and certainly been a big supporter of
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey. He has got five hundred tickets that he's
Speaker 2: giving away. I don't know how many are still available,
Speaker 2: but I just checked within the last sixty seconds. And
Speaker 2: if you follow Rick, go to his Twitter account. I
Speaker 2: retweeted it, so that's where you can find it easily
Speaker 2: if you follow me at the card connect is my
Speaker 2: Twitter user name, but there's a link there. You click it,
Speaker 2: you can get two free tickets, two free complimentary tickets
Speaker 2: if you know, while they last. There's five hundred that
Speaker 2: he bought in is giving away, so they clearly want
Speaker 2: to have a good crowd there. It's super important. And
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd be seeing this, or maybe you would,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was gonnay. I don't think you'd
Speaker 2: be seeing this kind of a of a of an
Speaker 2: attempt to make sure people are there unless you were
Speaker 2: worried about, you know, maybe the weather. And I think
Speaker 2: if people have free tickets, does that make the weather better. No,
Speaker 2: but it'll probably incentivize Okay, I can get in for free.
Speaker 2: I'd like to be there. Let me, let me let me.
Speaker 2: It's probably for the folks who really weren't considering going
Speaker 2: because they didn't have tickets and the weather is the thing. Well,
Speaker 2: if they know they knock out the issue with having
Speaker 2: tickets and they get them for free, maybe they'll the
Speaker 2: work on finding away there. So I mean free tickets, folks.
Speaker 2: And it's an ACC game against the top team in
Speaker 2: your league. Clemson's notat e Laitue. Clemson usually is the
Speaker 2: team that comes to town from the ACC that you
Speaker 2: feel like there's a big game, we better be there.
Speaker 2: But hey, they are one of the and I hate
Speaker 2: saying this, but it's the truth. They're one of the
Speaker 2: last remaining opportunities for Louisville to get a Quad one
Speaker 2: victory here. In fact, I'm not even sure if they
Speaker 2: are there. I gotta go look at the net because
Speaker 2: the kin Poms has Clemson at thirty two, and I
Speaker 2: don't I think that puts them just on the outside.
Speaker 2: So again, that speaks more to anything just how rare
Speaker 2: it's gonna be for Louisville to have chances to really
Speaker 2: significantly improve their resume. But look, they're both North Carolina
Speaker 2: and Clemson right now are flirting with the top thirty
Speaker 2: and Austin. Do you know, is it quad one? Is
Speaker 2: it one through thirty five? Let me look it up here.
Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot off. How sure that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So quad one, qua quad one, Quad two, and quad
Speaker 2: three Quad one is a home game for a team
Speaker 2: that's one through thirty, a neutral site game for a
Speaker 2: team that's one through fifty, or if you beat anybody.
Speaker 2: And I think this is a little bit flawed, but
Speaker 2: you know, what are you gonna do? This is how
Speaker 2: it is. If you beat somebody on the road, if
Speaker 2: they're in the top seventy five of the net rankings,
Speaker 2: then then you get a quad one win. And I
Speaker 2: think the reason I hate that is because you could
Speaker 2: be in the top fifty of the kin Pom and
Speaker 2: have a losing record in the net as well, and
Speaker 2: have a losing record because you play in a league
Speaker 2: where the metrics already loved that league and it's competitive,
Speaker 2: you're not bagally held accountable for losing.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: You see this team from the Big twelve and the
Speaker 2: Big Ten, they got eight Quad one wins. Well, six
Speaker 2: of those came against teams in the bottom half of
Speaker 2: their league. They just happened to be, you know, in
Speaker 2: the bottom seventy five in road games. So currently right now,
Speaker 2: North Carolina is sitting at let's see here, North Carolina
Speaker 2: is at forty three, not good. They fell pretty hard
Speaker 2: when Louisville beat them. And then Clemson right now is
Speaker 2: at thirty seven. They're both a little bit higher in
Speaker 2: the kin Pom. But the net is the one that matters.
Speaker 2: So if Clemson in North Carolina finish in the top
Speaker 2: thirty because you beat them at home, that's what you
Speaker 2: need for it to be a quad one victory. So again,
Speaker 2: right now Louisville has let's see here, I'm gonna look
Speaker 2: look at this about it. So when it comes to
Speaker 2: the opportunities you're gonna have in the ACC right now,
Speaker 2: the top ranked team in the net, and you see
Speaker 2: no surprises, Duke at twelve and two, you already lost
Speaker 2: to them, so no chance to play them again. And
Speaker 2: then you've got a road game this week, and which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm going to be at in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh right now is we're fifteen in the country in
Speaker 2: the net rankings, So they fall sixty five spots or
Speaker 2: sixty spots, I'm sorry, and still be a quad one win.
Speaker 2: So there's no doubting what that's gonna be. When it's
Speaker 2: all said and done. You go in and you compete,
Speaker 2: and you play well, you'll still probably jump up in
Speaker 2: the rankings. However, if you go there and win Man,
Speaker 2: that's a that's the big this Saturday, and again we
Speaker 2: probably need to we'll get there later in the week,
Speaker 2: but the Clemson games is first, and there's some value
Speaker 2: there as well. But that Pittsburgh team, and I'm worried.
Speaker 2: I think they're really good. I think Wolfe could play
Speaker 2: really well and lose because I just happen to think
Speaker 2: Jeff Cable's got a really good team this year. But anyways,
Speaker 2: Duke and Pittsburgh are the only two teams in the
Speaker 2: top thirty right now. Clemson's at thirty seven, Louisville is
Speaker 2: at thirty nine, SMU is at forty one. North Caroline
Speaker 2: is at forty three, and then after that, when you
Speaker 2: go from Cara line on, there is a big, big drought.
Speaker 2: The next best team in the ACC after those teams
Speaker 2: is at seventy six, and that's Florida State, So I
Speaker 2: guess to be fair Florida State, if they jump up
Speaker 2: a couple of spots, then that'll be a quad. And again,
Speaker 2: that's good for Louisville, right but man, doesn't that speak
Speaker 2: to how silly the road winds are being valued? Because
Speaker 2: winning on the road should have more value. It means
Speaker 2: it's a difficult if it's a more difficult task against
Speaker 2: a certain caliber of team. Florida State right now, I mean,
Speaker 2: does anybody think they're good this year? They're not like terrible.
Speaker 2: They're better than I guess they were the last couple
Speaker 2: of years. But I mean Louisville, if they jump up
Speaker 2: one Florida State jumps up one spot, louis will get
Speaker 2: aquad one victory. And again I'll take it. I'll take
Speaker 2: all of them, all the quad ones you can get.
Speaker 2: But I just think that's an example of like that
Speaker 2: value as far as just your system alone, the metrics alone. Now,
Speaker 2: clearly people who use their brain, and it's not the
Speaker 2: only thing. They don't use this specifically to slop the
Speaker 2: just to slot the spots in the tournament and give
Speaker 2: the seeds. But you're telling me that when it comes
Speaker 2: to just the four different levels of value that you have,
Speaker 2: Louisville could beat Pittsburgh on Saturday, or beat you know,
Speaker 2: Kentucky at RUP and then beat Florida State at Florida
Speaker 2: State and technically those have the same value. Like that's
Speaker 2: just that makes no sense at all. So anyways that
Speaker 2: they've they've stuck with the net formula. So as much
Speaker 2: as it is flawed at times, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta do whatever you can to to
Speaker 2: find yourself in the good graces of these metrics. So anyways, tomorrow,
Speaker 2: hopefully there's a good crowd there. I'm I don't care
Speaker 2: about the number. I mean, I hope it's not empty,
Speaker 2: and I don't think it will be. But the fans
Speaker 2: that have been going to games, especially those that were
Speaker 2: with the Carolina game, I mean, when this team's playing
Speaker 2: that hard, they're playing with that kind of energy and
Speaker 2: there's big plays where the momentum swings, it's it made
Speaker 2: me feel alive again. So I'm hoping to be there tomorrow,
Speaker 2: and uh hope louisvill could keep this this this run
Speaker 2: going because I think, you know, when it comes to
Speaker 2: you know, the record itself, it's still not great because
Speaker 2: you know, they they took losses earlier this year, five
Speaker 2: of them in fact, to good teams. But they're now
Speaker 2: up to ten and five and I think they're playing
Speaker 2: their best basketball. I really do so. Hopefully there's a
Speaker 2: good crowd and they can get another victory tomorrow. All right,
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