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Speaker 1: with the show, right Pickfoot Society. You've got the privilege
Speaker 1: of talking to Ed today. Ed's an individual that reached
Speaker 1: out to me after he stumbled upon the Big for
Speaker 1: Society YouTube channel, and he has some interesting things to
Speaker 1: share from his past years. So Ed, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks for having me absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, we've got some really interesting ground to cover today, Ed,
Speaker 1: and you do actually have a very interesting background as well,
Speaker 1: and you know we were talking about that a little
Speaker 1: bit before the show started. I'd love if you could
Speaker 1: spend a few minutes kind of sharing about that background,
Speaker 1: and I think it plays in very well with the
Speaker 1: other things that you'll be sharing right afterwards.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, not to go too deep into the weeds,
Speaker 2: but I was right after high school, when I was nineteen,
Speaker 2: I joined the Army. I was in the infantry for
Speaker 2: about eight and a half years. And the reason I
Speaker 2: think that's important is because I'm a United States Government
Speaker 2: trained absorbed I'm a desert storm veteran, and my job
Speaker 2: was to destroy enemy tanks, and so I know how
Speaker 2: to look for things that are trying to hide from
Speaker 2: me very well, either the highs binoculars, normal scopes, all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. That's what I did, right and
Speaker 2: a half year is looked for things to shoot. Basically,
Speaker 2: as far as the desert storm thing goes, I didn't
Speaker 2: have any bigfoot anything happening out there, but I did
Speaker 2: have some uh, some other things that are kind of related.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it had something new the balls of light.
Speaker 2: After getting out of the Army, I was I returned
Speaker 2: to Hawaii. I was stationed in Hawaii in the Army,
Speaker 2: so I went back over there for other reasons and
Speaker 2: I became a police officer over there, and I was
Speaker 2: a police officer for twenty five and a half years.
Speaker 2: And if anybody is an trained observer in this world,
Speaker 2: it's police officers. They see things that other people will
Speaker 2: never see. Just driving down the road, I tell my wife,
Speaker 2: did you see that? You see that? Guy? You see that?
Speaker 2: And nobody ever sees it. They're like, how do you
Speaker 2: see all this stuff? I was like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: it's you can't unlearn it. And then the last thing
Speaker 2: I like to throw in there, as far as my
Speaker 2: you know, being able to see things. I have a
Speaker 2: licensed private pilot, and you constantly have to look for things.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you're up in the air. You know,
Speaker 2: I can see big from the air, but you're constantly
Speaker 2: looking for anything and everything. And then if you're playing,
Speaker 2: you got to look on the ground too for places
Speaker 2: of land. Just think takes the plane craps out, So
Speaker 2: they're constantly looking for this kind of stuff. So and
Speaker 2: on top of that, I've been in the woods ever
Speaker 2: since I was a kid. I grew up just south
Speaker 2: of Atlanta, and I retired back in twenty seventeen and
Speaker 2: moved up here to North Georgia. I live in Towns County,
Speaker 2: right outside of a little bitty town called Hiawassee, and
Speaker 2: I live up here on ten acres on the side
Speaker 2: of a mountain. I got like two neighbors, and if
Speaker 2: it's summertime, I can't even see them. So that's that's
Speaker 2: basically my background. I just turned sixty one this month,
Speaker 2: so you know, I get out in the woods as
Speaker 2: much as I can, but I'm not umping down these
Speaker 2: mountains like it would be when I was when I
Speaker 2: was a kid. I'm going to go kind of in
Speaker 2: a reverse chronological order of what has why I'm on
Speaker 2: there here today, and I'm going to go from the
Speaker 2: the latest one back to back in time years ago,
Speaker 2: if that's all right with you, absolutely, okay. So when
Speaker 2: I retired in twenty seventeen and we moved up here
Speaker 2: about a year so maybe twenty eighteen, I took up
Speaker 2: turkey hunting. And for the other guys up here they're listening,
Speaker 2: you know, turkey hunting is one of the hardest that's
Speaker 2: one of the hardest animals there is to kill. I mean,
Speaker 2: you got to be to sit there and be completely still,
Speaker 2: and most of the places that I turkey hunt up
Speaker 2: here are within the Chattahoochee National Forest. So the Chattahoochee
Speaker 2: National Forest is of course regulated by the federal government,
Speaker 2: and within the National Forest are things called wildlife Management areas,
Speaker 2: and those are maintained and regulated by the state of Georgia.
Speaker 2: So the main one that I hunt in up here,
Speaker 2: and it's only about five six miles away from my
Speaker 2: house really as a crow flies, it's called the Swallow
Speaker 2: Creek WMA. And I finally killed a turkey this past year,
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four in right at the end of
Speaker 2: the season, which was I think May so right say,
Speaker 2: May fifteenth, end of the season May sixteenth, they start.
Speaker 2: It's I think it's called a fox and bobcat or
Speaker 2: a fox and hog or something like that. Anyway, for
Speaker 2: the last two weeks of the month you can hunt
Speaker 2: you know, fox and bobcats, and if there's anything in season,
Speaker 2: you can hunt hogs. And I like to hunt hogs.
Speaker 2: So I went back up to this food plot where
Speaker 2: I had killed my turkey. Now this food plot is
Speaker 2: on the end of a road. It's called Mill Creek Road.
Speaker 2: It's one way in and it's one way out. It's
Speaker 2: a gravel road, and it's two miles up to the
Speaker 2: end where I was hunting. And so the reason I
Speaker 2: tell you that is when I drove in, I went
Speaker 2: up there that day to look for pig signs or whatever,
Speaker 2: and there was there was nobody else up there, because
Speaker 2: there's not really anywhere you could hide a vehicle. You
Speaker 2: just you can barely pull off the road at some
Speaker 2: of these little spots they have for you to park
Speaker 2: at the food plots. And there's no other vehicles on
Speaker 2: it road that day. And it was probably, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't know, three four in the afternoon. It was a
Speaker 2: nice day, sunny day, and I went up there and
Speaker 2: I had my AR fifteen just in the case I
Speaker 2: run across the pig and you could drive almost up
Speaker 2: onto this field. It's about one hundred meters one hundred
Speaker 2: yards in the their direction, and this field is in
Speaker 2: between two ridge lines. There's one that's the closest mountaintop
Speaker 2: is maybe an eighth of a mile north of the field,
Speaker 2: and then there's another one about a quarter of a
Speaker 2: mile away, and there's no trails or anything going up
Speaker 2: off of this field. It's I mean, it's thick as
Speaker 2: peanut butter. Up there. I've heard some of your other
Speaker 2: guests on here from North Georgia talk about the Mountain
Speaker 2: Laurel and if you want to get through it, you
Speaker 2: got to crawl under it. Well, they're not lying. That
Speaker 2: stuff is thick. And so I was up there and
Speaker 2: I didn't see any signs of hogs or anything, which
Speaker 2: is another point that I need to come back to later.
Speaker 2: But while I'm standing there from the closest ridge line,
Speaker 2: I hear just out of blue two consecutive wood knocks,
Speaker 2: and the only I can describe it is this somebody
Speaker 2: was up there, had a Louisville Slugger, baseball bat or
Speaker 2: something and just, you know, whack the hardwood tree like
Speaker 2: twice as hard as they could. And I'm just standing
Speaker 2: there in shock, because honestly, all my life I had
Speaker 2: been like on the fence about the whole bigfoot thing.
Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking to myself, oh my god, did
Speaker 2: I just hear what I thought? It hurt? And about
Speaker 2: ten second later, on the other ridge, which I said,
Speaker 2: it's got to be a quarter mile away, I hear
Speaker 2: another knock, a return knock, an answer sort of. It
Speaker 2: wasn't as loud because it was further away, but it
Speaker 2: was it was a wood knock, and so I just
Speaker 2: stood there for a minute and just I was in shock,
Speaker 2: basically because I've been hunting up there for several years
Speaker 2: and I've been all around the world, and like I said,
Speaker 2: I kind of didn't really know what to believe about this,
Speaker 2: but I heard this, and I'm thinking, there's there's no
Speaker 2: trails going up there. I didn't see any trucks or
Speaker 2: cars on my way up there, so there, I mean,
Speaker 2: could it have been a person up there? Maybe technically,
Speaker 2: I guess, but they would have had to hike all
Speaker 2: the way up the road for two miles, and then
Speaker 2: they would have had to hike for the better part
Speaker 2: of a day at least to get up there, and
Speaker 2: then their buddy that answered the call would have had
Speaker 2: to high I don't know how I'm going to take
Speaker 2: it hike to that other location because there's nothing over there.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have they have signs on the side
Speaker 2: of the road that says Wilderness area, and they're not
Speaker 2: kid it's it's seriously thick. They're I'm betting nobody's been
Speaker 2: over there since the Native Americans, probably because most of
Speaker 2: the guys that hunt out here. They're like me, and
Speaker 2: they're kind of lazy. They don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: bust bush any more than after. That's why we hung
Speaker 2: all these these big fields that the the state makes
Speaker 2: for us. You know, you could just walk right out
Speaker 2: there and sit on the edge of them. So to
Speaker 2: get up there and to just randomly, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you're if you're be hoaxing somebody or what, but
Speaker 2: I just can't believe that people would have walked all
Speaker 2: the way up there. They would have had to take
Speaker 2: backpacks and stayed up there for the night, because there's
Speaker 2: no way they're going to get down that mountain in
Speaker 2: the dark like that. There's just no way. So I'm
Speaker 2: just standing there a shock, like what else could it be?
Speaker 2: The only other big thing that lives out there that
Speaker 2: would have the strength to do that would be a bear,
Speaker 2: And you know they can't hold a stick like that
Speaker 2: and beat on the side of a tree. So I
Speaker 2: was just in shock, and I decided to get my
Speaker 2: truck and leave. So I got my truck and I
Speaker 2: went home, and I told my wife about it quite
Speaker 2: and she doesn't really care that much about it. And
Speaker 2: so the next day I go down to the the
Speaker 2: dump nearby to dump my trash, and there's a gentleman
Speaker 2: that works there and he's he's always been working there,
Speaker 2: and so I thought, you know, if anybody knows what's
Speaker 2: going on up here, maybe this guy. So I asked
Speaker 2: him and said, hey, how how long have you? How
Speaker 2: long have you here? He goes, I've lived here all
Speaker 2: my life? And I said, have you do you go
Speaker 2: out and hunt and feace? He goes, yeah, I used
Speaker 2: to quite a bit. So I asked him the same
Speaker 2: question I ask everybody. I said, what, so, what's the
Speaker 2: weirdest thing you've ever seen? Out? And before I could
Speaker 2: finish it, he goes, I've seen Bigfoot. And my jaw
Speaker 2: just dropped and I was like what, And he said,
Speaker 2: I was driving up to Hazel of North Carolina the
Speaker 2: other day and I seen this thing walking through this
Speaker 2: guy's yard and he went on to tell me about it,
Speaker 2: and I thought, oh, my god, that's And then he
Speaker 2: tells me that he's seeing these giant tracks right outside
Speaker 2: the dump over here, and dump's only like three miles
Speaker 2: from my house. That kind of gave me the you know,
Speaker 2: the chills. I was saying, Oh, that's just great. Because
Speaker 2: right across from my property here is National Forest, I
Speaker 2: mean hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of ac ors, so
Speaker 2: I can just sit there and look across, and nobody
Speaker 2: lives up there because it's just National Forest. So I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, this is the only guy
Speaker 2: I've talked to that has, you know, told me they've
Speaker 2: seen stuff like that. So later that day I couldn't
Speaker 2: stand it. I just I had to go back up there,
Speaker 2: just for my own you know. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I just felt it, like I felt the need to
Speaker 2: go back up there. And the funny thing is, I
Speaker 2: took a couple of apples with me. I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: I'll just put them on a stump up there in
Speaker 2: case they're watching, and just let them know that I'm
Speaker 2: a good guy and don't please don't try and kill
Speaker 2: me when I'm hunting. I'm I'm not here to mess
Speaker 2: with you. So I'm driving back up that road again,
Speaker 2: Mill Creek Road, and I get within about twenty yards
Speaker 2: of the little turn offer I need to go up
Speaker 2: to that field, and now there is a tree bent
Speaker 2: across the road. Not broken, not blown down by the
Speaker 2: roots or anything. I mean, it was bent that tree
Speaker 2: had to be as big around as my leg. I
Speaker 2: think I sent you a picture of it. So I
Speaker 2: stopped right there and I was, I was like, what
Speaker 2: what in the world is this. This wasn't here yesterday
Speaker 2: when I left, and there was no you know, rough
Speaker 2: weather override or anything. It was just you know, calm.
Speaker 2: It was spring weather. We didn't have any windstorms. And
Speaker 2: none of the other trees around this tree were molested
Speaker 2: or touch They were all fine. And the base of
Speaker 2: this tree where was growing had to be a good,
Speaker 2: don't know, ten twelve feet off the road down the
Speaker 2: side of the hill, and it stretched all across the road.
Speaker 2: So I got up. I gotta see how the stays
Speaker 2: being held in place. And the funny thing is there
Speaker 2: was nothing holding this tree down. It looked, you know,
Speaker 2: for it should have just sprung right back up, you
Speaker 2: would think. And I pulled on it and everything, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't get it to the pop out there was.
Speaker 2: I said, there's nothing holding it. And so for a
Speaker 2: person to be able to pull that tree over, you
Speaker 2: you'd't need like a football team gorillas out there, and
Speaker 2: somebody climb way up that tree with a rope and
Speaker 2: you know, a whole bunch of guys pulling on it
Speaker 2: or a wench. And then still I don't know how
Speaker 2: to this day, I don't know how it's being held down.
Speaker 2: I haven't gone back up there since, but I thought
Speaker 2: that was really odd that right after I heard those knocks.
Speaker 2: The next day I come up here and there's this
Speaker 2: this tree across the road which I've seen on you know,
Speaker 2: some of the different shows and stuff like that, and
Speaker 2: I've encountered that one other time up here when I
Speaker 2: was out hunting with my son in law on the
Speaker 2: Chattahoochee part of the forest.
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Speaker 2: It was a road that we were walking down the
Speaker 2: surface road and there was another big tree just pulled
Speaker 2: all the way across the road like that, just out
Speaker 2: of the blue. None of the other trees were affected,
Speaker 2: and I just I just kind of put it in
Speaker 2: the back of my mind, going that's weird, but you
Speaker 2: know whatever. But now I kind of think back about it,
Speaker 2: it's wall who knows. So that was really odd. And
Speaker 2: the next thing going back, oh, let's see about it.
Speaker 2: A year or two ago, my son in law and
Speaker 2: I were hunting hogs up there in the same area,
Speaker 2: on the same road that mil Creek Road. We were
Speaker 2: just at a different food plot. There's one at the
Speaker 2: very beginning the park and then you it takes you
Speaker 2: about a half hour to walk up to this field.
Speaker 2: It's it's pretty far up the mountain. And I think
Speaker 2: it was in like it was small game season. Is
Speaker 2: it was like August and Georgia. Heree, funny season for
Speaker 2: small game open as August. They've take him. So you
Speaker 2: got to take a twenty two or something like that
Speaker 2: up there. But you can say, what if there's anything
Speaker 2: in season, they let you hunt hogs. So we were
Speaker 2: up there looking for hogs. And we walked way up
Speaker 2: there with our califlies and our Orange fast and everything,
Speaker 2: and so we finally get up to this field. It's
Speaker 2: a pretty good sized field, and I told him, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna post up down here on the bottom. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: treat it set up against it. He went further up
Speaker 2: to the top of the field and I see him
Speaker 2: disappear up into the bushes and he was going to
Speaker 2: wait up there, and so we said, And the thing
Speaker 2: about up there is there's there's no phone service anywhere,
Speaker 2: so you can't text, call, nothing. Your phones just don't work.
Speaker 2: Come there. So I'd been sitting over there, you know,
Speaker 2: twiddling my thumbs, waiting for about an hour, maybe an
Speaker 2: hour and a half, sitting against this tree. And my
Speaker 2: rifle had a scope on it so I could watch
Speaker 2: the whole field. And about that time I see him
Speaker 2: coming out from the top of the field of his
Speaker 2: orange vest, and he keeps stopping and looking back up
Speaker 2: the mountain as he's walking down towards me and everything.
Speaker 2: About every twenty feet he stops and he looks back
Speaker 2: up again like he's looking at something. Wonder what was
Speaker 2: he looking at? So I came out down the road.
Speaker 2: I was starting to get late and we forgot flashlights.
Speaker 2: So when he comes down there, he says, were you
Speaker 2: were you beating on a tree down here, trying to
Speaker 2: signal me? And I said what, and he goes, I
Speaker 2: heard somebody. It sounded like you were down here with
Speaker 2: a big wooden branch or something smacking a tree. And
Speaker 2: I thought you were trying to signal me to come
Speaker 2: back because we don't have phone service. I said, no, dude,
Speaker 2: I haven't moved. I've been sitting here, you know, quite
Speaker 2: as church wise and he goes, well, I heard it.
Speaker 2: It was coming from down here by you. I didn't
Speaker 2: hear a thing. That's the odd thing about it. I
Speaker 2: didn't hear anything. I didn't fall asleep either, And then
Speaker 2: he tells me, he said, when I got up and
Speaker 2: started walking out right after I heard that noise, it
Speaker 2: sounded like somebody was further up the mountain yelling at something.
Speaker 2: Except he said, he couldn't understand what they were saying.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, you know, they were enunciating words or anything.
Speaker 2: It was just like he just he thought initially that
Speaker 2: somebody who had hunting dogs up there baby and was
Speaker 2: yelling for their dogs, trying to find them. And I
Speaker 2: told him, well, there's nobody else up here but us.
Speaker 2: There's no other trucks down here on the road, so
Speaker 2: how would they get in here if even if they
Speaker 2: came from the other side of the ridge. I mean, man,
Speaker 2: they would have been walking for days to get up there.
Speaker 2: And he goes, yeah, but he goes, I didn't hear
Speaker 2: any dogs, but it was just he said, it sounded
Speaker 2: like a person yelling. And I said, man, that's that's
Speaker 2: kind of creepy because there's once again technically somebody could
Speaker 2: have walked up there. I've never seen anybody do it.
Speaker 2: Everybody drives in there. But you know, it's started to
Speaker 2: get dark. Dude, we forgot our flarelights. Let's let's get
Speaker 2: on don and mount because we've got really small caliber rifles.
Speaker 2: So that was the next thing that I thought was
Speaker 2: really odd that he heard wood knocks that I didn't hear,
Speaker 2: and then he hears something up there yelling. Now, this
Speaker 2: food pot was within a mile of the other one
Speaker 2: where I had first heard those knocks that I just
Speaker 2: told you about. One of the other weird things about
Speaker 2: this area that I have encountered while I'm up there,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if it has anything to do
Speaker 2: with with sasquatch so much or not, but I've heard
Speaker 2: other people talk about it is these balls of light.
Speaker 2: I have seen those things going through the woods out there.
Speaker 2: Like So, like, if I go turkey hunting, you can
Speaker 2: hunt legally a half hour before sunrise. Well, it's like
Speaker 2: I said, it's first come, first server on the spot's
Speaker 2: up there. So I'll go there an hour or two early.
Speaker 2: I'll be up there, like three thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: parked just so I can get my spot and I'll
Speaker 2: just sit in my truck and wait. And I've seen
Speaker 2: these lights going through the woods or down the road.
Speaker 2: It looks about the size of a softball. And it's
Speaker 2: not like a flashlight or it's projecting light. It's just
Speaker 2: it's just a light and they just kind of, you know,
Speaker 2: fhase out. It's a steady light.
Speaker 1: And we are getting some really weird feedback. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's on you're aware of that on your
Speaker 1: side or anything. Really, it was when you were trying
Speaker 1: to describe the balls of light, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it was just went crazy on your side of the phone.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could restate that part at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let me move over here to the other
Speaker 2: end of the room. Sure. Yeah. So, like I said,
Speaker 2: there was there was these balls of light up there
Speaker 2: in this area where I've heard the wood box and everything,
Speaker 2: and I see them. I've seen him a couple of
Speaker 2: times going through the like through the woods and or
Speaker 2: down a road. Like they're about the size of maybe
Speaker 2: a baseball or a softball, and they're just uh. The
Speaker 2: first time I saw it, I thought it was a
Speaker 2: guy on a bicycle coming through and then he never
Speaker 2: passed me, and I jumped out there and turned on
Speaker 2: my flastide and there's nothing there, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what was that? It was? It was a you know,
Speaker 2: a ball of light. And then a couple other times,
Speaker 2: I'll be sitting on a stand, you know, waiting for
Speaker 2: pigs or whatever, and I see these things moving through
Speaker 2: there and I rub my eyes and I see them again,
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know what that is. That's
Speaker 2: the most bizarre thing. But I've heard other people talk
Speaker 2: about that in connection with sasquats. And one of my
Speaker 2: neighbors up here, we have a campground close by where
Speaker 2: I live, and one of the guys over there said
Speaker 2: he's seen those down by this creek that's next to
Speaker 2: my property. And I'm like, oh, that's that's crazy. I
Speaker 2: thought I was the only one, but he goes, no,
Speaker 2: I've seen them. I've seen these balls of light, so
Speaker 2: we don't really know what that is. I saw something
Speaker 2: like that a desert storm while I was out there,
Speaker 2: a ball of light, me and a couple other guys,
Speaker 2: and it was just in this big thing of woods.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a big foot Saudi Arabia, but
Speaker 2: that's the only other place I saw these lights like that,
Speaker 2: and they just disappeared, and it was really odd. One
Speaker 2: of the other things was my son in law and I.
Speaker 2: My son in law and my stepdaughter moved here from Hawaii.
Speaker 2: My wife is from Hawaii, and so they moved up
Speaker 2: here to live with us. And he's a big hog hunter.
Speaker 2: That's why I ended up, you know, got out and
Speaker 2: learning how to hunt hogs and stuff, because that's all
Speaker 2: I had to hunt in Hawaii's hogs. And one of
Speaker 2: the other times that and this is something that one
Speaker 2: of your other guests have I have noted that they experienced,
Speaker 2: and when they said this, it just came rushing back
Speaker 2: to me and I remembered it. But my son in
Speaker 2: law and I we were hog hunting off of Highway
Speaker 2: one eighty up here right right near Brasstown Ball. Brass
Speaker 2: Town Ball is the highest mountain in Georgia. So you
Speaker 2: get there via Highway one eighty and it's all National
Speaker 2: forests out there, which means you can hunt out there.
Speaker 2: It's a public hunting area and there's a couple of
Speaker 2: roads and stuff that you can you know, you can
Speaker 2: park and get out there. And so he and I
Speaker 2: had found a place where the hogs had just been
Speaker 2: tearing the tearing the you know, the grass up on
Speaker 2: the side of the road. They will it looks like
Speaker 2: someone goes through with a plow and just plows everything up.
Speaker 2: So we had gone out there and we were following
Speaker 2: this hog signs down this old service road. It was.
Speaker 2: It was a good enough road where you could walk
Speaker 2: on it. You couldn't drive because there was little trees
Speaker 2: who were up in it and everything, but we could
Speaker 2: tell the hogs had been through there. And we had
Speaker 2: been walking, oh, I don't know, maybe half hour. So,
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm not as young as I used
Speaker 2: to be, and East in his thirties. So we came
Speaker 2: across an area where there's a tree had fallen over
Speaker 2: the road, and I thought it was just perfect. I
Speaker 2: can sit down and take a break. I told him.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna sit down and you know, take
Speaker 2: a break for a few minutes. And he was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go on up ahead and I'll be
Speaker 2: back in like fifteen minutes. I said, okay, great. So
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there and after I don't know, five or
Speaker 2: ten minutes or so. The only way I can describe.
Speaker 2: It is up up the side of the mountain aways,
Speaker 2: maybe about fifty yards up from where I was sitting.
Speaker 2: It sounded like an elephant just stomped his foot on
Speaker 2: the ground as hard as it could, or like someone
Speaker 2: was way up in a tree and dropped a huge
Speaker 2: bowling ball or something. I mean, I felt good to
Speaker 2: my mind. It was just this big thud like boom,
Speaker 2: and it scared me. I jumped off that lawe, the
Speaker 2: safety came off my rifle and looked up there. I
Speaker 2: didn't see anything, but I mean, it was just this
Speaker 2: big thud, like there was an visial elephant up there
Speaker 2: and it had just stomped the ground. So the whole time,
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for my son Alain to come back, because
Speaker 2: like I said, there's there's no phone reception out in
Speaker 2: these areas. So I'm standing there the whole time with
Speaker 2: my rifle, just watching like what was that. Because so
Speaker 2: he comes, he finally comes back. I told him what happened,
Speaker 2: and we went up to the point where it sounded
Speaker 2: like it came flog. There's nothing disturbed there, no, I mean,
Speaker 2: if if a limb had fallen out of a tree,
Speaker 2: you'd hear it coming down. I've heard trees fall, I've
Speaker 2: heard limbs falling out of trees, and you all hear
Speaker 2: it busting other branches on the way down or something,
Speaker 2: and when it hits the ground, it'll crack. That's not
Speaker 2: what this was. This was just this big food. I mean,
Speaker 2: just I saw, I can describe it. It's just this
Speaker 2: big bud hit something hitting the ground like that. And
Speaker 2: we went up there and looked around and there was nothing.
Speaker 2: There was no trees, you know, recently broken off or anything.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure what that was or how I
Speaker 2: have no idea what it was, but I've heard a
Speaker 2: couple of other guys that had that was up here
Speaker 2: in North Georgia. Then it described something similar to that,
Speaker 2: and I was like, man, I've heard that and it
Speaker 2: just creeps you out because you look around, like what
Speaker 2: was that? Just out of the blue. So that was
Speaker 2: one of the other things. And like I said, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to say any of this was bigfoot, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it wasn't because I don't know what
Speaker 2: else it could have been. I mean, bears, bears don't
Speaker 2: make you know the biggest thing that lives out here
Speaker 2: that I'm aware of that. I have seen. I've got
Speaker 2: one on my my webcam, not letting camp, my game
Speaker 2: camp out of my front yard.
Speaker 1: Big for Society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: I got a bear on it that that's easily six
Speaker 2: seven hundred pounds. But I don't even think that bear
Speaker 2: could could make a noise like that unless he was
Speaker 2: way up in the hunter foot up in a tree
Speaker 2: and just fell out, in which case I would have
Speaker 2: seen him, which I didn't. So there was that. That's
Speaker 2: that's a really odd thing. The other thing I've experienced. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a point notes here. It was probably back in
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. And this one is really to me,
Speaker 2: this is the most bizarre of all of them because
Speaker 2: this is where I grew up south of Atlanta. This
Speaker 2: is basically a suburbia. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: woods and stuff around. This is right at my parents' house,
Speaker 2: and there's some big swamps that looks like Cambodia back there.
Speaker 2: I used to play in when I was growing up,
Speaker 2: hunting fishing. But there's a lot it's a very populated
Speaker 2: area and I was there I think it was May.
Speaker 2: There's my parents wedding anniversary. I was there visiting him.
Speaker 2: I had flown in from Hawaii, and at that point
Speaker 2: in time, my mom and dad still didn't have air
Speaker 2: conditioning in their house, and it was kind of warm
Speaker 2: for what may. And I was sleeping in my whole
Speaker 2: bedroom and that room had a big window that went
Speaker 2: from the floor to the ceiling, and then back behind
Speaker 2: the house was woods for about oh an easy mile
Speaker 2: before you hit the next subdivision, you know, like I said,
Speaker 2: creeks and swamps and stuff. And I'm laying there asleep
Speaker 2: and something wakes me up. And it was the most
Speaker 2: ungodly sound I have ever heard in my life. The
Speaker 2: only way I can describe it is if you took
Speaker 2: a roaring African lion and a mountain silver backed mountain
Speaker 2: gorilla roaring as loud as he can, and then you
Speaker 2: take that t Rex from that Jurassic Park movie that
Speaker 2: sounded that t Rex makes, and you combine all three
Speaker 2: of those and you run it through like a big
Speaker 2: marshal ample like a kiss concert, and you turn the
Speaker 2: hamp all the way up and you let that noise
Speaker 2: go for about a good fifteen seconds. I could feel
Speaker 2: it through my bones. I mean, my body was vibrating
Speaker 2: when I heard this thing, and it did it two
Speaker 2: or three times, and I had a three fifty seven
Speaker 2: magnum revolver in on the night stand next to me,
Speaker 2: and I didn't even think about reaching over for it
Speaker 2: because I was like, oh my god, whatever that is,
Speaker 2: this isn't even going to tickle it. Because to be
Speaker 2: able to make a sound like that, you would need
Speaker 2: some gigantic lungs. I mean, I don't know how big.
Speaker 2: But it just went on and I'm just like right,
Speaker 2: I mean just went on and at least a good
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds each time. And they did it two or
Speaker 2: three times, and it sounded like it was only I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe one hundred yards down my parents' backyard.
Speaker 2: It scared me so bad that I just lay there
Speaker 2: and I tried not to move. I mean I did
Speaker 2: that thing where I opened my mouth and I tried
Speaker 2: to breathe real shallow. So because I thought this thing
Speaker 2: could walk right up to the window. The only thing
Speaker 2: between me and it is the screen from the window,
Speaker 2: and it could just you know, pop that out and
Speaker 2: be in here. And I was just I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2: I had never heard anything like that in my life.
Speaker 2: It was horrifying. And like I said, it was like
Speaker 2: if you took that sound and you pumped, if you
Speaker 2: were in front of the speakers up on a stage
Speaker 2: at a Kiss concert and they turned the speakers all
Speaker 2: the way up. That's what it felt like going through
Speaker 2: my body. And I had grew like that. I grew
Speaker 2: up in those woods. I had never heard anything like that.
Speaker 2: And so finally it stopped at It made that sound
Speaker 2: that scream how old yellow thing two or three times
Speaker 2: and it finally stopped. And I just kept laying there
Speaker 2: listening as hard as I could, just wait to see
Speaker 2: if I could hear anything moving. And I never heard
Speaker 2: anything else, and I finally fell asleep. And so the
Speaker 2: next morning I get up and I asked my dad,
Speaker 2: I said, did you hear that thing last night? And
Speaker 2: he goes, I didn't hear anything. I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, you must have been in a coma. How
Speaker 2: could you not hear that? It was ungodly. So I
Speaker 2: didn't go down there in the woods to look around
Speaker 2: that day. It was just me. Like I said, three
Speaker 2: fifty seven was the biggest guy I had at the
Speaker 2: time over there, and I wasn't going to get my
Speaker 2: dad to go down there with me because he was
Speaker 2: getting older, and so I had one more night to
Speaker 2: stay there, and the next night it happened again. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just unbelievable, the volume on this thing and
Speaker 2: how long this kept going. And in my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 2: how big do you have to be to generate that
Speaker 2: much's noise for that long of a period of time.
Speaker 2: I mean, a human being, you know, you could scream
Speaker 2: as loud as you could for maybe I don't know,
Speaker 2: ten seconds or so, and then you'd be like out
Speaker 2: of breath. But this thing just kept going. It was
Speaker 2: just unbelievable. So the next morning I got him ask
Speaker 2: my dad again, did you hear it? He goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I heard it last night. I said, what why was that?
Speaker 2: He was, I don't know, I've never heard anything like
Speaker 2: that in my life. And my dad was like, he'd
Speaker 2: been basically to all the states in the country, and
Speaker 2: he was he was in the military, he'd been around
Speaker 2: the world, and you know the same thing. He was like,
Speaker 2: you know, you've never heard anything like that. You've been
Speaker 2: all the way around the world, You've experienced a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff, and for you know that, that's just so crazy, bizarre.
Speaker 2: So my sister came to pick me up later that afternoon.
Speaker 2: I was going to go to her house and I
Speaker 2: told her, I said, come with me. We got to
Speaker 2: go down the woods behind the house. I want to
Speaker 2: see if there's any tracks down there, because there was
Speaker 2: like a real sandy area where the water bubbled up
Speaker 2: on the ground down there. And had a gun stuck
Speaker 2: in the back of my pocket. And so she's going
Speaker 2: down the hill with me. She goes, why do I
Speaker 2: have to go with you? I said, in case something
Speaker 2: happens to one of us, the other one can run
Speaker 2: back and you know, get some help or tell people
Speaker 2: what's going on. She goes, well, why do you get
Speaker 2: to carry the gun? Is my gun? I'm not letting
Speaker 2: you have it. But anyways, so that was just I
Speaker 2: never figured out what that was. And then I can't
Speaker 2: say that it was bigfoot, but it's I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was. I mean, it was unbelievable. Whatever it was,
Speaker 2: it was just this crazy, crazy, loud. And then one
Speaker 2: of the other things this was I was when I
Speaker 2: was in the army. I was stacing up in Fort Lewis, Washington,
Speaker 2: and this was before I went to desert storm, so
Speaker 2: I think it was in about nineteen ninety. So the
Speaker 2: way the divisions in the Army works, or at least
Speaker 2: the way they used to work, was about every month
Speaker 2: a unit would be the duty battalion, and you got
Speaker 2: stuck doing all the the thirty jobs around the base,
Speaker 2: picking up the trash and mowing grass in different places
Speaker 2: and all kinds of you know, crap like that. So
Speaker 2: we were on that duty, and the fourth sergeant gave
Speaker 2: Michaeltendent's ergeant, who was the guy I was pretty close with,
Speaker 2: we were pretty different. He gave him a they call
Speaker 2: it a detail that this one training area needed to
Speaker 2: be have a they call it a police call. All
Speaker 2: that means is you're going to go out and pick
Speaker 2: up trash. If God didn't put it there, it up.
Speaker 2: So there was this training area somewhere out on the
Speaker 2: outskirts of the base that needed a two day police call.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go two days in a row and
Speaker 2: pick up trash. So it was me the Politican sergeant,
Speaker 2: and they saw a private who was our driver. We
Speaker 2: had a humpee and so we drive way out there
Speaker 2: and we got these trash bags and everything and all
Speaker 2: our mr used to eat and there was a They
Speaker 2: had a gate across this area, believe or not, and
Speaker 2: you had to unlock it and go inside. And if
Speaker 2: you've never been up to the Pacific Northwest, especially the
Speaker 2: Tacoma Salle area, I think it's a temperate rainforest is
Speaker 2: what they called it. It's like it's like a Jurassic
Speaker 2: park back in there. The trees are just gigantic. They
Speaker 2: have ant hills that are three or four feet tall
Speaker 2: made out of pine needles, and it's I mean, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: There's ferns that are I'm six one and they were
Speaker 2: these ferns has towered over me. It's just the only
Speaker 2: thing I could think it was this Jurassic park. So
Speaker 2: we pull in there and we immediately can tell that
Speaker 2: this is just a sham job. There's there's not any
Speaker 2: trash back here to pick up. Nobody's been back here
Speaker 2: since you know, Moses weren't private. So we figured, okay,
Speaker 2: we get we basically get two days off. We just
Speaker 2: sit out here, hang out, and as long as First
Speaker 2: Startiant doesn't find out that we were just out here,
Speaker 2: you know bs and around what, we're fine. We had
Speaker 2: two days offer away from the company. So the three
Speaker 2: of us decide we're going to go out and walk
Speaker 2: around because I told the platoon started and said, you know, Bob,
Speaker 2: this would be a great place to bring the platoon
Speaker 2: up here for like jungle train, because it basically looks
Speaker 2: like a big jungle and said, yeah, so let's let's
Speaker 2: go and check out the area. So we're walking around
Speaker 2: and we find this game trail going up. It's not
Speaker 2: really that mountains over there, but there were some pret
Speaker 2: good hills. We're going up this hill and at some
Speaker 2: point across this game trail, we come across this big
Speaker 2: pile of poop and it looked like a person, except
Speaker 2: if it was a person that was like ten feet tall.
Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't like, you know, regular person poop. It
Speaker 2: was gigantic person poop. It wasn't a dog, It wasn't
Speaker 2: a coyote or a wolf or a bear, I know
Speaker 2: what all that stuff looks like. That wasn't what this was.
Speaker 2: This stuff was huge, and we're all just standing there
Speaker 2: looking at it, and we're looking at each other and
Speaker 2: we're all thinking the same thing. I know. We are like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this this can't be you know, bigfoot
Speaker 2: but that's what we're thinking, I know, because we're like,
Speaker 2: what hell could it be up here? Is it's not deer,
Speaker 2: elk or anything else like that. That their poop doesn't
Speaker 2: look anything like that, And so we're looking at it,
Speaker 2: looking at it, and we thought, well, maybe we should
Speaker 2: head back already, because not of us wanted to being
Speaker 2: scared or anything. But you know, there's no point in
Speaker 2: this challenging whatever out that we didn't have any guns
Speaker 2: or anything. So on the way back, I told my
Speaker 2: little I said, hey, I got a nine millimeter pistol.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to bring it tomorrow just for
Speaker 2: our own safety. And he goes, yeah, I think that's
Speaker 2: a good idea. So we kind of stay close to
Speaker 2: the home being the rest of the day, and the
Speaker 2: next day we come back out there with the pistol.
Speaker 2: This time will feel a lot safer with a you know,
Speaker 2: even though it's a nine mionmeter pistol, it's better than nothing.
Speaker 2: So we go and we start to explore in the
Speaker 2: opposite direction, going down the hill, and there's a river
Speaker 2: down there and I don't remember the name of the
Speaker 2: river that saved my life, but it was it was
Speaker 2: a pretty good size piece of water. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it was maybe fifty forty fifty feet across, and it
Speaker 2: was running pretty good. It had salmon in it. It was,
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of a river. It had salmon,
Speaker 2: because as we walked down the river, we found a
Speaker 2: salmon that was kind of almost up on the bank
Speaker 2: but just barely in the water, and you can still
Speaker 2: you could tell it was it was still fresh, you know,
Speaker 2: just you know, it wasn't rotten or anything. And the
Speaker 2: thing about it was there was this huge bite mark
Speaker 2: on the belly of it. And we were standing there
Speaker 2: looking at that, going, what do you think bit that
Speaker 2: big chunk of salmon? Because it wasn't like a bear
Speaker 2: has a kind of a pointed muzzle, a coyote, you know,
Speaker 2: they got there kind of canine shaped muzzle. This wasn't
Speaker 2: shape like that. This was shaped like a person, except
Speaker 2: a person that was whose head would have been two
Speaker 2: or three times bigger than ours, you know, that's what
Speaker 2: it looked like. It was kind of a half moon shape.
Speaker 2: And so we're standing there looking at that, and we're
Speaker 2: thinking about the poop from the day before, and we
Speaker 2: walked maybe about ten or fifteen yards further down the river,
Speaker 2: and on the other side of the river, the bank
Speaker 2: went up drastically, I mean, almost like a cliff, up
Speaker 2: about I don't know, fifty sixty feet up, and there
Speaker 2: was a lot of brush on the side of it.
Speaker 2: And as we going down, we heard something I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was up there in that brush, moving around,
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, there's rocks hitting river
Speaker 2: right out in front with us, like if I don't
Speaker 2: know if somebody was throwing rocks, and they weren't you know,
Speaker 2: like basketballs or anything. They were just maybe the size
Speaker 2: of your fist or something. But so I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if whatever it was was scrambling up that mountain, would
Speaker 2: a person. I guess a person could get up it,
Speaker 2: but it would be really hard. I wouldn't have even
Speaker 2: back then I was young and you know, in the
Speaker 2: army and everything, I wouldn't have wanted to try it.
Speaker 2: But we weren't sure if it was somebody something scrambling
Speaker 2: up there and kicking rocks loose. But I don't think so,
Speaker 2: because they would have hit closer to that the foreshore,
Speaker 2: and most of them were hitting out in the middle
Speaker 2: or on our side of the shoreline, and so we
Speaker 2: were like, we couldn't see what it was. But when
Speaker 2: that happened, we put that together with the salmon that's
Speaker 2: just right upstream a few few yards, I want that
Speaker 2: giant bite out of it, and then the poop from
Speaker 2: the day before, and we were like, oh, that's it.
Speaker 2: I took off running up the side of the mountains
Speaker 2: and then they goes like, hey, wait, wait for us,
Speaker 2: wait for us.
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Speaker 2: Why because you've got the gun. And so we got
Speaker 2: back up to the Humbie and we we stayed up
Speaker 2: there like for the rest of the day, and we
Speaker 2: didn't really you know, we didn't really talk, like we
Speaker 2: ate our lunch and stuff, and it was almost like
Speaker 2: we were on guard. We were we were sitting around
Speaker 2: and standing around right outside the vehicle and just watching,
Speaker 2: waiting to see if something was going to show up
Speaker 2: out there. And it never did. And you know, when
Speaker 2: the time came, we we went back to the company
Speaker 2: area and we didn't really discuss it with anybody, but
Speaker 2: it was really really odd. Uh. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: can't say that it was bigfoot, but I've never seen
Speaker 2: any proof like that since except that the uh, the
Speaker 2: Bigfoot Museum over here in Terry Loge, Georgia, which is
Speaker 2: about half far down the road from me. They've got
Speaker 2: the I don't know if it's fake poop or whatever
Speaker 2: it is, but supposedly Bigfoot poop on display. And I
Speaker 2: looked at that. As soon as I saw that, I
Speaker 2: was like, wow, that looks just like what I saw
Speaker 2: up up in Washington. And since Washington is, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of the Bigfoot central up there according to everything else,
Speaker 2: that's that's the first thing I thought of. So that's
Speaker 2: that's basically some of the stuff that I've experienced.
Speaker 1: And that's that's incredible. My goodness. Thank you for Sharon.
Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask you the question you
Speaker 1: pretty much just answered, which is what was the orientation
Speaker 1: of the scat that you saw? And it sounds like
Speaker 1: it was kind of in a straight line, because I'm picturing.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. It was right there on that
Speaker 2: trail of all places, and like I said, there's no
Speaker 2: homeless people out there. There was a military training area
Speaker 2: on the base, and it was just plain as day.
Speaker 2: We were just walking and boom, there it is. I mean,
Speaker 2: you couldn't miss it. I love the Honting fish. So
Speaker 2: I'm out in the woods a lot out here, and
Speaker 2: I see bear scat all the time, and it doesn't
Speaker 2: look anything like that I had hogs. I've never seen
Speaker 2: anything like that ever again, except for that stuff that
Speaker 2: they have in this little museum over here, but that
Speaker 2: was kind of bizarre. And the whole tree thing I've
Speaker 2: now that I remember right down here on my property,
Speaker 2: I go deer hunting. Like, here's the other thing I
Speaker 2: want to get to about the pigs and the deer
Speaker 2: on the wildlife management areas. I've been up there. Like
Speaker 2: I said, turkey hunting. I always see turkeys out there.
Speaker 2: There's tons of them out there, and up until about
Speaker 2: two years ago there was there was lots of hogs
Speaker 2: out there. I mean you would see signs of them
Speaker 2: even driving down the road down here in the mountains.
Speaker 2: You know, there's always a grassy area on the media
Speaker 2: in the side of the road or whatever, and you
Speaker 2: can tell where the hogs have been because it looks
Speaker 2: like someone took a row tiller and just went out
Speaker 2: there and filled up a garden plot. Even in the woods,
Speaker 2: they go through there and they'll be fifteen or twenty
Speaker 2: of them, and they just take their noses and they
Speaker 2: just turned the earth over and just tear it up.
Speaker 2: So basically, every time I would go or me and
Speaker 2: my son law would go out here into the wm
Speaker 2: a's or even in the National Forest, we would find spots.
Speaker 2: It was pretty easy. Just you go out here and
Speaker 2: start walking and you'll find a spout where the hogs
Speaker 2: have been. Until about two years ago and suddenly we
Speaker 2: just didn't see hogs anymore. There was no signs anywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean I used to get them on my twelve
Speaker 2: cameras over here on my property. We even sat down
Speaker 2: here at the bottom part of my yard a year
Speaker 2: or two ago with our bows one night in the
Speaker 2: summer and our green lights because we had about a
Speaker 2: two hundred and something pound hog kept coming through. And
Speaker 2: then suddenly they were just gone. And I just wondered,
Speaker 2: I thought, well what And I've never seen a deer
Speaker 2: on those WMA's, not maybe one. I don't even go
Speaker 2: deer hunt nobody. I just I come down here on
Speaker 2: my property here. My next door neighbor lets me hunt
Speaker 2: on their property, but I have never seen a deer
Speaker 2: other than maybe just one on there. And and then
Speaker 2: the hogs just suddenly It's like it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: star trek came and beamed them up or something. And
Speaker 2: after hearing those wooden knocks up there, I kind of wondered,
Speaker 2: did are these things nomadic? Did they move into this area?
Speaker 2: And then did they eat all the hogs or did
Speaker 2: they run all the hogs off? And then oh, there
Speaker 2: was one other thing I almost forgot when I was
Speaker 2: talking about the turkey hunting. I met a guy a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago out here. We met up we
Speaker 2: were out hunting turkey in the same area, and we came,
Speaker 2: we came friends, and we were up there in the
Speaker 2: Chattahoochee Wildlife Management Area, and uh, we had decided to
Speaker 2: basically call it a morning, and we knew that there
Speaker 2: was these two guys camping at this one camp spot
Speaker 2: and this spot is the only place up on the
Speaker 2: mountain where you can get a phone signal, so they
Speaker 2: call it the phone booth, oddly enough, and they had
Speaker 2: a fire going, and so we kind of meandered over
Speaker 2: there and started up the conversation with him and kind
Speaker 2: of an excuse us to stand by the fire because
Speaker 2: it was cold that day, and so I was going
Speaker 2: to ask them the same thing. Whenever I meet anybody
Speaker 2: out here in the woods hunt their fishing, I always
Speaker 2: ask them, are you from up here? And they usually
Speaker 2: it's always yes. And I'd ask them kind of around about,
Speaker 2: beat around the bush, what's the weirdest thing you've seen
Speaker 2: out here in the woods? And I'd usually ask him
Speaker 2: to find have you ever seen big food? They always laugh.
Speaker 2: Everybody laughs and says no. But these guys were a
Speaker 2: little bit different. So they were camping. Apparently they come
Speaker 2: up here every year to get away from their wives
Speaker 2: for a couple of days. And so while we're standing
Speaker 2: there putting the dogs and standing by the fire, I
Speaker 2: asked the guy, what's the weirdest thing you guys have
Speaker 2: ever seen up here? It's one guy tells me he'll
Speaker 2: back down here in such and such hollow, which I
Speaker 2: had a specific name, and I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2: He said, I was hunting back there, and I've heard
Speaker 2: children laughing, giggling, and there's no children back there. I thought, well,
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty creepy, you know. So I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's a residual, you know, Native American thing, or
Speaker 2: is it you've all sasquats that he doesn't see and
Speaker 2: they're I don't you know, I don't know if they
Speaker 2: laugh or not. Because I was listening to a different
Speaker 2: podcast the other night and there was another guy from
Speaker 2: up here in Georgia and he said he heard one
Speaker 2: sound like it was singing, which I was like, singing. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's that's different. So I guess if you could sing,
Speaker 2: possibly you could maybe make something that sounds like laughter.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he seemed to think it was
Speaker 2: a kind of a honking sort of thing. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: well that's that's kind of strange. I'll try to avoid
Speaker 2: that area. And then he tells me, he said, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen Bigfoot, but and he goes, you remember when
Speaker 2: you was a kid, used to watch the Pink Panther cartoon.
Speaker 2: And I was like yeah. He goes, remember how the
Speaker 2: Pink Panther walked in that funny goofy walk. I was
Speaker 2: like yeah. He said, well, I was down here coming
Speaker 2: off of whatever highway was just right up in this
Speaker 2: area somewhere. I forget what's one it was, and he said,
Speaker 2: and this thing stepped out on the road, and he
Speaker 2: said it had to be seven plus foot tall, had
Speaker 2: a real long tail, walked on through legs, and he said,
Speaker 2: walk across the road. He goes. The funny thing about
Speaker 2: it was it walked just like that pink Panther tune
Speaker 2: and that little bebop kind of thing as it walked
Speaker 2: across the road. And I'm looking at him. I was like,
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking, this guy just you know, yank in
Speaker 2: my tin. But he was deadly serious, and he said,
Speaker 2: I it went across the road, he goes, I turned
Speaker 2: around and I came back, he goes. I thought there
Speaker 2: was some kids or somebody here playing a joke on me,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to catch him, so he said, I
Speaker 2: turned around, came back, and he goes, I stopped where
Speaker 2: I saw go into the woods, and I didn't see anything,
Speaker 2: and I thought, you're serious, and I just, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, just bs me. He goes, no, I'm deadly serious.
Speaker 2: I saw this. I thought, okay, that's that sounds like
Speaker 2: one of those dog men things, because I've never heard
Speaker 2: seen anything about a sasquatch with a big, long, bushy tail.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so that's something else that someone has related
Speaker 2: to me up here. And then, like I said, the
Speaker 2: guy down here at the dump. That told me that
Speaker 2: he'd seen the one in Hazel in a guy's yard,
Speaker 2: and he said it was it was like been over
Speaker 2: making something up as they walk by. And this was
Speaker 2: like at eleven o'clock in the day, and you know, daytime.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, you know the thing about that
Speaker 2: is if somebody was trying to hoax somebody people driving by,
Speaker 2: or say the guy that lived at that house, they're
Speaker 2: taking their life in their own hands. Because everybody up
Speaker 2: here is armed to the teeth. I mean, everybody up
Speaker 2: here in the mountains has guns. It's just a culture.
Speaker 2: You know. We're not not out looking for a fight.
Speaker 2: That's just everybody carries guns. And sooner or later there's
Speaker 2: going to be some good old boy redneck. And I
Speaker 2: don't use that as a disparaging term. I'm a redneck myself,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. But sooner or later, you know there's
Speaker 2: going to be somebody sees one and goes, there's a
Speaker 2: money foot, and I'm going to shoot it, and they're
Speaker 2: going to shoot at it. So if you put on
Speaker 2: a big furry costume and start walking through people's front
Speaker 2: yards trying to scare him, either that guy that owns
Speaker 2: the house is going to come out and put some
Speaker 2: hot lead on you, or somebody's going to stop there
Speaker 2: their f one fifty pick up on the side the
Speaker 2: road and pull out his rifle and put some lead
Speaker 2: on you. You know. So it's either that a crazy person,
Speaker 2: which you'd have to be mental to do something like that,
Speaker 2: or it was real. So I don't know, but that's
Speaker 2: that's what he told me. And then the other neighbor
Speaker 2: over here where the campground is, there was a guy
Speaker 2: over there and he's from Florida, and he claimed that
Speaker 2: he was going to the everglade and there was one
Speaker 2: standing right out on the side the road. He said,
Speaker 2: traffic came to a stop and him and his wife
Speaker 2: both saw it. So he when I talked to him
Speaker 2: about it, he doesn't laugh. He's like, yeah, I saw one.
Speaker 2: And he said, well, I'm not the only person that
Speaker 2: you know, encounters this. But then so this year, like
Speaker 2: I said, I deer hunt back here right on my property,
Speaker 2: and my next door neighbors said giving me permission to
Speaker 2: hunt their property. So during the rut, I was putting
Speaker 2: up cameras back there, trying to, you know, see what
Speaker 2: time the bos are coming. Through. So I go down
Speaker 2: through to every day and check these cameras, so I
Speaker 2: know what's what in the woods right in that area.
Speaker 2: So I go down there one day and there's a
Speaker 2: tree that's about, I don't know, about as big around
Speaker 2: as my arm, maybe about fifteen twenty feet tall, and
Speaker 2: I thought it had been pulled well, I guess it
Speaker 2: was pulled over, but it was pulled over and broken
Speaker 2: off down by the base. And I thought, now, why
Speaker 2: the world would have done that, because there wasn't any
Speaker 2: windstorms or anything last night, and nobody else goes down
Speaker 2: there hunts but me. I mean, I'm the only person
Speaker 2: who goes down there. Now, I guess it could have
Speaker 2: been a bear that did it. I guess maybe I've
Speaker 2: never seen bears pulling trees over like that before, but
Speaker 2: I guess it could have been a bear. But I
Speaker 2: don't know, because down in that area is where the
Speaker 2: guy said he saw the balls of white. And then
Speaker 2: the next thing you know, I got this tree down
Speaker 2: there that's pulled down. Out of millions of trees, there's
Speaker 2: just this one tree right there, and it's along the
Speaker 2: avenue that I was traveling to go check the cameras,
Speaker 2: which is kind of creeps me out because it's almost
Speaker 2: like in your face, like hey, letting you know that
Speaker 2: I'm over here. So to it may sound strange to people.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it makes me feel better because
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like I said, I listen to all
Speaker 2: this stuff. I see the shows on TV, and some
Speaker 2: people think that they're telepathic and whatnot. Maybe they are,
Speaker 2: they're not. I don't know, but just in case, they
Speaker 2: are just all the odd off chants that they are.
Speaker 2: When I get out of my truck to the hunting now,
Speaker 2: I say a little not a maybe a prayer, but
Speaker 2: a little message to them in my mind. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Hey, I'm not here to bother you your family.
Speaker 2: I'm just out here hunting deer, big sturky water. The
Speaker 2: case may be, I don't really want to see you,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be bothered by you. And as
Speaker 2: soon as i'm done, I'll take all my trash with
Speaker 2: me and I'll leave. So I don't know if that
Speaker 2: helps or not, but it can't hurt, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So I do that. But yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't know, Like I said, with the hogs, they're just
Speaker 2: suddenly disappeared up here, So I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: if Bigfoot is wipe them out, or if they've decided
Speaker 2: Bigfoot is something they don't want to deal with so
Speaker 2: they've left the area. But I haven't seen one up
Speaker 2: here really in about two years, and I think that's
Speaker 2: just so bizarre because there's not too many guys up
Speaker 2: here to actually hunt hogs. I asked guys that to
Speaker 2: you seeing hogs or hunt hogs? All they like one
Speaker 2: or two other guys and actually, you know, dedicated to
Speaker 2: hunt hogs. And I'm pretty sure they didn't mike them
Speaker 2: a lot, because there's must be thousands, hundreds of thousands
Speaker 2: of them up there. Probably they breed like roaches.
Speaker 1: Big for Society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 1: It's extremely interesting. You have a ton of really interesting
Speaker 1: anecdotes from all over the place. I had no idea
Speaker 1: you're really going to go all over the place. This
Speaker 1: has been a very cool conversation. It's it's very unique
Speaker 1: to have someone on the show that, or at least
Speaker 1: for my show. I've only been able to talk to
Speaker 1: a handful of individuals that have been involved with out
Speaker 1: there in Fort Lewis in Washington. It's such an interesting
Speaker 1: area out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy out there. So I've never seen
Speaker 2: angels like got in my life until I first got there,
Speaker 2: and you can just see the ants crawling all over.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is pulsate. Oh man, no way. That's
Speaker 2: the only place I ever slept in an igloo overnight too.
Speaker 2: It snowed on us, start snowing one night and we
Speaker 2: didn't have tents and made it in like a sleeping
Speaker 2: inside the vehicle. So we actually built a snow shelter
Speaker 2: and our whole squad of was got in there like
Speaker 2: sardines and we were very comfortable. So it was I
Speaker 2: experienced quite a few things out there. You go to
Speaker 2: the eastern part of the state and it's a whole desert,
Speaker 2: and we did lots of training out there, and yeah,
Speaker 2: it was different, really different. But so so when I
Speaker 2: moved here, when I moved back home to Georgia and
Speaker 2: the whole Bigfoot thing was I blame it on my
Speaker 2: father because when I was a little kid, they didn't
Speaker 2: have all these shows on TV. There was no internet
Speaker 2: back there in the late sixties, thirty seventies. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm older than dirt, but you had to go to
Speaker 2: the theater to see these documentaries about Bigfoot, and every
Speaker 2: time one came on, my dad drugged me to the
Speaker 2: theaters to see him. So I always kind of blame
Speaker 2: him for that. But I never I never really thought
Speaker 2: that Georgia would be a place where there was bigfoots.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there's I believe in polar bears,
Speaker 2: but I don't think there's any living in Georgia because this,
Speaker 2: you know, that's not where they live up in the
Speaker 2: Arctic Circle. So I believe in moose, but I've never
Speaker 2: seen one in Georgia, so that was my rationale. And
Speaker 2: you know, they they all live up in the Pacific
Speaker 2: Northwest or Canada or somewhere far up north. And I
Speaker 2: even talked to a guy right down the road. I
Speaker 2: think it was last year. I was going to go
Speaker 2: turkey hunt, and in this case, I got a lot
Speaker 2: of national forests around my property here, and I was
Speaker 2: going to this one spot and there was a couple
Speaker 2: walking down the road and when I came back out,
Speaker 2: they were going the other way, and I figured they
Speaker 2: must live over here in one of these houses. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him about the turkeys, and so
Speaker 2: he said, oh, we don't live here. We're here with
Speaker 2: my wife's parents live over here. We're from Ohio. And
Speaker 2: so I told him about, you know, the turkey. He goes, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm a turkey hunter too. I loved the turkey hunt.
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, really, so here we go. He
Speaker 2: opens me up. Now I know he's an outdoorsman. I
Speaker 2: can ask him my question. To ask him, I said,
Speaker 2: you're from Ohio, I said, so, I just came out
Speaker 2: and asked him. I said, have you have you ever
Speaker 2: seen Bigfoot? Because it's some you know, pretty popular thing
Speaker 2: up there. And he goes no. He goes no, but
Speaker 2: I believe in it. He goes, I live on the
Speaker 2: wrong side of the state. All the Bigfoot lives on
Speaker 2: the other side of the state. And I was like, what,
Speaker 2: I had no idea that there were, you know, segregated
Speaker 2: like that where they only live on one part. But
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess that's you know whatever. But he goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I believe in it. I was like, you're the first
Speaker 2: guy I've talked to at this time it has ever
Speaker 2: told me yes, I believe in this, because everyone else
Speaker 2: says I asked him, they just start snickering, laughing and whatever.
Speaker 2: So for me to experience these things up here. And
Speaker 2: you know how a lot of these people will tell
Speaker 2: you I was out here and the hair stood up
Speaker 2: on the back of my neck. Well, I don't have
Speaker 2: hair anymore, but if I did. There's only one place. Oh,
Speaker 2: I almost I have to tell you this one. This
Speaker 2: is I'm not really sure, but I got to tell
Speaker 2: you this. It's another It's also part of the Swallow
Speaker 2: Creek Wildlife Management Area that it's that that some people know.
Speaker 2: This Wildlife Management Area encapsulates about nineteen thousands square acres
Speaker 2: up here. It's a pretty large area and there's lots
Speaker 2: of little feeder roads to go into it all around
Speaker 2: it kind of uh, you know, you got a spider
Speaker 2: and then all the legs come out those roads. The
Speaker 2: legs would be the roads going in. So I had
Speaker 2: found another road that wasn't even marked. It was just
Speaker 2: off of another road, and I went down and come
Speaker 2: to find out that's the service road for that part
Speaker 2: of the WMA. And then I found a trail to
Speaker 2: go down the mountain. It takes about ten minutes to
Speaker 2: get all the way down this mountain, and there's three
Speaker 2: food plots down there, and I find him on this
Speaker 2: map on this hunting app that I got, and I
Speaker 2: saw him on there, and I was like, okay, I
Speaker 2: had to find the trail. Finally found the trail and
Speaker 2: sure enough, turkey's down there are stick as peanut butter.
Speaker 2: So I decided I'm going to start turkey hunting down there.
Speaker 2: So getting down there in the dark, it's it's creepy
Speaker 2: to say the least. And I'm you know, I'm heavily armed.
Speaker 2: Not only do I carry my shotgun and I got
Speaker 2: a ten millimeter pistol with me in case the bears
Speaker 2: want to, you know, try to eat me for lunch.
Speaker 2: I have been paced by a coyote going down there before,
Speaker 2: you know, I'd be walking and I hear something walking
Speaker 2: next to me and then I stopped and they would stop.
Speaker 2: I walk a little more and they were all I thought,
Speaker 2: what does that turn the light? Streaky coyote, he's got
Speaker 2: the balls to you know, he's pacting me better run.
Speaker 2: So I'm down there one one morning and I get
Speaker 2: down there before sunrise because the sunrise is when the
Speaker 2: turkeys come off the roost and they're gonna fly down
Speaker 2: onto these shields and that's when your best chance again one.
Speaker 2: So I get down there, and like I said before,
Speaker 2: there was no truck in the area, so I felt
Speaker 2: comfortable to stop there and go down and figure this.
Speaker 2: And nobody else down there. Well, I get down there,
Speaker 2: and I have to pass through two other fields to
Speaker 2: get to the very last one to where I want
Speaker 2: it to be. And I'm sitting down there and this
Speaker 2: field is long and it shaved like a football. I
Speaker 2: feel long and skinny. And the very back end is
Speaker 2: the service road where the dn R comes in and
Speaker 2: they'll plow these things in the summer or whatever, and
Speaker 2: they plant different food for the animals. And I had
Speaker 2: talked to another gentleman who lived back there. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: that road goes through my property, so the DNR has
Speaker 2: come through my property to get to their road. And
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, that's interesting. So I'm down there this
Speaker 2: morning and I'm sitting there, waiting, waiting, waiting, and from
Speaker 2: across this field further down from me, towards where that
Speaker 2: guy said his property was at, I see what I
Speaker 2: thought at the time was a person emerged out of
Speaker 2: the woods and he kind of walked out into the
Speaker 2: field a little bit and then went down towards where
Speaker 2: that guy's house was. The thing is, I couldn't really
Speaker 2: see clearly because the sun was just starting to come
Speaker 2: up a little bit, but I know he didn't have
Speaker 2: a gun, which I thought was kind of odd because
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, who else comes down here on this field
Speaker 2: first thing in the morning, Turkey season and is not
Speaker 2: packing a shotgun? That's just odd. And you know, it
Speaker 2: just he was. I couldn't see if he was wearing
Speaker 2: camel or whatdy. It just it was like a black
Speaker 2: figure and it came out of the bushes, and I
Speaker 2: kept thinking about it and thinking about that, why would somebody
Speaker 2: be over there if you know there was And when
Speaker 2: I got back up, when I left, I went back
Speaker 2: up to my truck, there was no trucks up there.
Speaker 2: So if he came from up on the road, he
Speaker 2: had to walk down a pretty hazardous decline through all
Speaker 2: that brush that we've talked about, I think I would
Speaker 2: have heard him coming down, and I don't know it
Speaker 2: just I didn't hear anybody out there. And to get
Speaker 2: there that way, I mean, you're you're really working hard
Speaker 2: to get through that stuff. If you're gonna come down
Speaker 2: there just to go and get on that road and walk.
Speaker 2: And then I thought, well, if it's the guy that
Speaker 2: lives here, what's he doing over there in the woods
Speaker 2: in the dark, you know, And he doesn't have a gun,
Speaker 2: not that I could see, but it just it came out.
Speaker 2: So the more I thought about it, the more I
Speaker 2: kind of wondered, you know, after I heard the max
Speaker 2: and if I thought, was that really a man that
Speaker 2: I I don't know, but it just you know, makes
Speaker 2: it gives me pause to wonder, because, like I said,
Speaker 2: I went back up, got in my truck and there
Speaker 2: was there want any other trucks up there. It was
Speaker 2: just me. It was kind of odd. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: And honestly, to be honest with you, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't want Bigfoot to be real because I enjoying going
Speaker 2: out in the woods and the thought that I'm going
Speaker 2: out there and there's some eight nine foot thousand pound
Speaker 2: gorilla out there that could rip my head off, it's
Speaker 2: kind of kind of freaks me out. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2: It's like I said, when I go out and say
Speaker 2: my little thing, I don't want to know you're anywhere around.
Speaker 2: I don't want to smell you. I don't want to
Speaker 2: see you. I don't want to see your head peeking
Speaker 2: out from any tree or anything of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I just I don't want to. I don't. What I
Speaker 2: really don't want is the people that I hear them
Speaker 2: when they say they're coming up and whacking side of
Speaker 2: the houses at night and stuff like. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: put up with that. I mean, I I have more
Speaker 2: guns than God would allow a parent that that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff starts. You know, I'm going to take you're
Speaker 2: a business, but you know, do you stay out of
Speaker 2: my yard and I won't bother you. But so far
Speaker 2: I haven't had any you know, problems with stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Knock on wood. Yeah, I don't. I don't want to,
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, just the thought that you're you're
Speaker 2: going out there and there's this thing that could just
Speaker 2: rip your arms off, It's kind of this kind of
Speaker 2: creeps me out.
Speaker 1: The good thing though, is that I like, how before
Speaker 1: you go out hunting, you even though you may not
Speaker 1: entirely believe in the communication, you know mentally you are
Speaker 1: still having that you know you're sending that out, you know,
Speaker 1: and so your intention is correct, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let them know my very respectful. When I go
Speaker 2: out there, I see places. I mean sometimes I walk
Speaker 2: for a couple of miles out there and I'll find
Speaker 2: beer cans and trash. I'm like, who walks way out
Speaker 2: here to drink beer? You know? Who brought a six
Speaker 2: pack two miles up the side of a mountain to
Speaker 2: drink beer? And then there's a store on the ground,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, you have no respect for
Speaker 2: the woods and you know, Mother Earth and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Because one thing I learned in the
Speaker 2: army was trash is the enemy can tell a lot
Speaker 2: about you by your trash. So if you leave trash
Speaker 2: on the battlefield and they find it, they can tell
Speaker 2: a lot about you. So I learned early on in
Speaker 2: my life when you're out in the woods, everything that
Speaker 2: you bring out there with you basically goes back out
Speaker 2: with you. I mean, I went through a school when
Speaker 2: I was in the Army, which was I don't want
Speaker 2: to mention the name of it because I don't like
Speaker 2: the politics involved with it. Now, one phase of it,
Speaker 2: most of it that is actually here in Georgia one
Speaker 2: phase of it is actually up here in the North
Speaker 2: Georgia Mountains, and so they would give us a certain
Speaker 2: amount of food to take out on the patrols and say,
Speaker 2: if it was a seven day patrol, you got seven meals.
Speaker 2: When you got back, you better have either the meals
Speaker 2: that you didn't eat, which was basically most of them,
Speaker 2: or you better have the trash, because they would check
Speaker 2: to make sure that whatever you took out you brought
Speaker 2: back because otherwise people can you know, hey, I found
Speaker 2: this toilet paper, and I found the candy wrappers. These
Speaker 2: guys are very well supplied because they got candy, toilet paper,
Speaker 2: they got cigarettes where they did their cigarette butts down
Speaker 2: up you know, all those little things. I've learned, you know,
Speaker 2: over the years. So I don't leave stuff out in
Speaker 2: the woods like that habit. And when I see people
Speaker 2: leaving trash and stuff out there, just it just burns
Speaker 2: me up. I'm like, you know, you're just destroying it
Speaker 2: for the next generation or the animals that are out
Speaker 2: here and whatnot. So like I said, I try, if
Speaker 2: they are real, if they really are out there, I'll
Speaker 2: let them know, Hey, I respect you, and I'm not
Speaker 2: out here to cause you any problems. You know, if
Speaker 2: you really don't want me out here, you throw a
Speaker 2: couple of ocks ors and sticks at me, and I'll
Speaker 2: believe me goutch because I don't want to. I'm not
Speaker 2: the redneck that says I'm going to shoot one because
Speaker 2: I don't believe that there's just one run around by itself.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that they're probably family units, and
Speaker 2: if you, I just I just get the feeling if
Speaker 2: you mess with one of them, that the rest of
Speaker 2: them are just going to gang up on you and
Speaker 2: that's going to be a real bad day for you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: No, I have the same thought where you know, and
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of other people that also
Speaker 1: have the same feeling. It kind of kind of like
Speaker 1: in you remember Jurassic Park, the first one, and you
Speaker 1: have Muldoune, you know, tries to take down the raptor,
Speaker 1: and then the other two raptors show up on either
Speaker 1: side of them. Big for Society will be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like that pretty much on a lot, or.
Speaker 2: Like uh or it would be like uh, you know
Speaker 2: how mountain gorillas live there there are big family units,
Speaker 2: and there's not there's not this want of want there
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, pretty much everything out here except
Speaker 2: for the bears. The bears are pretty much the owners
Speaker 2: unless you have a slow or ubs. But everything else
Speaker 2: out here. I kid people, I tell them I basically
Speaker 2: have a deer farm, a deer and a turkey farm
Speaker 2: out in my front yard. Because it slopes away, we're
Speaker 2: kind of up on the side of the mountain and
Speaker 2: sometimes I have to hank the horn on my car
Speaker 2: to get the deer to move off my driveway. They're
Speaker 2: just standing there looking at me, and they're like, what
Speaker 2: what do you want? You know, I would like to
Speaker 2: I would like to get by. Please, Can you just
Speaker 2: move out away? And then you can come back and
Speaker 2: eat all the grass you want. The more you eat,
Speaker 2: the less I have to mow. But uh, you know,
Speaker 2: and like I said, we've had hogs and stuff out here,
Speaker 2: But I do think it's strange about the hogs and
Speaker 2: the deer. As a matter of fact, this month there's
Speaker 2: a I think it's called Georgia's Sportsman Magazine something like that.
Speaker 2: It's a Georgia specific hunting and fishing magazine and on
Speaker 2: the front cover is a wild boar, and so you know,
Speaker 2: I want to grif stot flipping through it while my
Speaker 2: wife's shopping. And you don't have to report killing hogs
Speaker 2: up here, there's no limit, but the game warden told me,
Speaker 2: I want tom kill as many as you can, you know,
Speaker 2: because there's just so many of them. At that time
Speaker 2: they were and they have this state divided up into
Speaker 2: different sectors. So I looked on my sector up here
Speaker 2: in Towns County, and like I said, I don't know
Speaker 2: who's reporting to the DNA that they kill hogs, but
Speaker 2: for the whole hunting season, I said, like either one
Speaker 2: or two had been reported killed. And that's odd. That's see,
Speaker 2: every time I tell you something like this, it makes
Speaker 2: me remember something else. So my son in law, the
Speaker 2: big hog hunter from Hawaii, is taking my granddaughter to school,
Speaker 2: and the school's just right around the corner down here.
Speaker 2: One morning, and apparently someone had hit a hog out
Speaker 2: on the road out there, and he threw it on
Speaker 2: top of his jeep. Turkey brought it back to our
Speaker 2: house and threw it out here on the side of
Speaker 2: the yard because he wanted to see how his dog
Speaker 2: would interact with it. Well, he didn't tell me about it, So,
Speaker 2: you know, he goes to work, my granddaughter goes to school,
Speaker 2: and I come outside, let my dog out. I got
Speaker 2: a Rottweiler, and then my son Wall's healer, and I
Speaker 2: see this thing out there in the yard. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what the world is that. I go down there and
Speaker 2: it's a dead hog. How did this hog get in
Speaker 2: the yard and just fall over dead? So anyway, long
Speaker 2: story short, he tells me what happened, and I said, well,
Speaker 2: we can't just leave that hog laying out here in
Speaker 2: the yard. It's going to start to stink the place up.
Speaker 2: So I put it on the back of my truck,
Speaker 2: and I had an idea, said, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take it down to the other end of the property
Speaker 2: where there's a power line cut that goes through our property,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to stake it down and get a
Speaker 2: metal steak and I'm going to tie it down to
Speaker 2: that and I'm going to put a camera on it,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to watch and see what comes over
Speaker 2: there to eat it. So for about I don't know,
Speaker 2: three or four days or so, I can drive by
Speaker 2: there and I could look with my binoculars and see
Speaker 2: the hog laying there. And I checked the camera a
Speaker 2: couple of times, and it was like nothing wanted to touch
Speaker 2: that hog. For some strange reason. Once in a while
Speaker 2: there'd be a crow or a buzzard come down. Nothing.
Speaker 2: And then in the afternoon, I usually go and pick
Speaker 2: up my granddaughter from school, and so on the way home,
Speaker 2: she says, Papa, let's drive by and see if the hog.
Speaker 2: What's going on with the hog? Because I had already
Speaker 2: pulled the camera off of it because I needed it
Speaker 2: somewhere else, because I was like, nothing's touching that hog.
Speaker 2: I'm not wasting camera time. I've only got a few
Speaker 2: of them, and you and I've had bears take my
Speaker 2: cameras and chew them up before. And so the camera
Speaker 2: was gone. But we drive by and I get to
Speaker 2: buy it. No, look, the hog is gone and completely gone.
Speaker 2: And I was said, wow, is it's gone? I mean
Speaker 2: overnight was gone. Now when I took that hog out
Speaker 2: of my truck and I had to drag him over
Speaker 2: there to that power line. You know, okay, probably weigh
Speaker 2: about fifty pounds. Maybe I had drug him through the
Speaker 2: leaves and had left a trail a big drag mark
Speaker 2: through the woods. So I go down there after I
Speaker 2: dropped my granddaughter off, you know, at the house, and
Speaker 2: go down there in my truck. The cord, which was
Speaker 2: it was like a almost like parachute cord, real high
Speaker 2: kncel strength cord had been broken. It didn't look like
Speaker 2: it had been chewed through. It looked like something had
Speaker 2: just snapped it and the hog was gone. There were
Speaker 2: no drag marks anywhere. It's like that hog just stood
Speaker 2: up and walked off, or something came over there, snapped
Speaker 2: that cord, picked up that hog and left with it.
Speaker 2: Now we have a bear out here, like I said,
Speaker 2: we have about a six on a plus pound blackbrother.
Speaker 2: We call it big Gym. I guess big Gym could
Speaker 2: have picked it up in his mouth and walked off
Speaker 2: with it. I don't know, but I thought that was
Speaker 2: really odd that there wasn't a drag mark anywhere, and
Speaker 2: you can see the drag marks where I drug it
Speaker 2: over there. But so whatever, I had no idea what
Speaker 2: picked that plog up and ran off with it? There
Speaker 2: was there wasn't any pieces of it laying around nothing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's so weird because I hear man, I hear
Speaker 1: people tell me stuff similar with like elks they've shot
Speaker 1: out in uh Idaho where they come back real quick.
Speaker 1: The elk is entirely gone. It's like where to go,
Speaker 1: It's there's no drag marks. It's just it's crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Ed.
Speaker 1: You've got some really interesting things that have happened over
Speaker 1: the years. And I think if you keep doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing, stuff is just gonna keep happening to you.
Speaker 1: And I'd love to keep in touch with.
Speaker 2: The Okay, maybe I'll stop doing because I don't really
Speaker 2: want to do.
Speaker 1: That's that's true. I forgot most people are like, well,
Speaker 1: this isn't really my thing.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I I'm fascinating by me. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I've since been a part of me since I was
Speaker 2: a kid. I watched every TV show there's one on there.
Speaker 2: I watched just the Heckle because I think it's kind
Speaker 2: of funny. Yeah, this is this will be my last
Speaker 2: little story. Is when I was still a policeman in
Speaker 2: Hawaii a few years before I retired, I said, my
Speaker 2: wife was from Hawaii. I brought her back over here
Speaker 2: to Georgia and we came up here to North Georgia
Speaker 2: for a day, she and I and my sister to
Speaker 2: drive around and I said, this is where we're going
Speaker 2: to live. And she was like, there's there's no how
Speaker 2: do see any houses up here? Where are we going
Speaker 2: to live? But most of the place were going through
Speaker 2: was national forest. Still, of course there's snow houses and
Speaker 2: in Hawaiian people live on top of each other basically,
Speaker 2: so she was like, wow, this is there's nothing up here.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's perfect. There's no people up
Speaker 2: here to bother me, nothing, because after being a copy
Speaker 2: you just don't want to be around people no more.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so this was the first year that the
Speaker 2: show Finding Bigfoot was coming on, and we had gone
Speaker 2: back to Hawaiian went back home and the very first
Speaker 2: episode was going to come on, and I was I
Speaker 2: couldn't wait to watch it, you know, And my wife
Speaker 2: was laying on a little sofa in front of the
Speaker 2: TV and she had fallen asleep. And so the show
Speaker 2: comes on and what do you know, they're right up
Speaker 2: here in Helen, George. It's a little alpine village thing, right,
Speaker 2: It's like fifteen miles from my house. Tonight, we're in
Speaker 2: the North Georgia Mountains looking for a sasquats and I thought, oh, oh,
Speaker 2: my wife sees this. She had never moving to Georgia,
Speaker 2: so I tried to stink. I turned the volume down
Speaker 2: a little bit, thinking she won't wake up. And you
Speaker 2: know they do their their little town hall meeting things. Well,
Speaker 2: they had their town hall meeting right there in Alpine Helen.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard of her word.
Speaker 2: It looks like a little German town. They have October Festa, right,
Speaker 2: so they're having their little town hall right there, right
Speaker 2: where we went through, right by where we had lunch
Speaker 2: and everything. Right when that was that part of the show
Speaker 2: was airing, my wife wakes up and she looks up
Speaker 2: at the TV and she watches it for like about
Speaker 2: thirty seconds. So she goes, hey, that looks like that
Speaker 2: place we went. And I'm sitting out there going oh no,
Speaker 2: and she goes, I said, it is that's Helen Georgia.
Speaker 2: Because what show is this? I was like, here we go.
Speaker 2: I said, it's it's Finding Bigfoot. Oh that was it.
Speaker 2: She does lost it. There's big cut, George. I am
Speaker 2: not moving over there nowhere. She just kind of lost
Speaker 2: your right about the whole Bigfoot thing. But she got
Speaker 2: but I was like, what the odds she would wake
Speaker 2: up right when that was on, you know, and I
Speaker 2: got to tell her.
Speaker 1: Larious, Oh my god, oh good stuff. Uh absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: thank you for for coming on the show and for
Speaker 1: for sharing what you've experienced over the years. And you know, definitely,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: If anything else happened, dog, you will be the first.
Speaker 1: One please reach out. Yeah. Absolute, but thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on. I greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it too, Thanks for having me.
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