Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 1: Jesus Quice, you better hello, get somebody out here when
Speaker 1: I'm out there. I thought of a bitch of about
Speaker 1: taking fort nine. I don't know. Easy him out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm walking right ay I folks on, welcome my
Speaker 3: guest to the show. It is Andy from a Virginia.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show man.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: I've been looking forward to this, so let's get right
Speaker 3: into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What in
Speaker 3: the world got you interested in the subject to begin with?
Speaker 2: I've had some things happened to me that at first
Speaker 2: I couldn't explain what was going on. I wasn't into
Speaker 2: Bigfoot or nothing like that. I had an open mind,
Speaker 2: but also at the same time, I gotta have some
Speaker 2: kind of proof or something, and it was just basically
Speaker 2: reading up on stuff or watching a TV program and
Speaker 2: then you're like, whoa same thing happened to me. Eventually
Speaker 2: I come around to where I don't no longer guess,
Speaker 2: I don't want and use the term nowhere for me.
Speaker 2: I am a believer.
Speaker 3: It definitely took me seeing these things. We were talking
Speaker 3: a little bit about that before I hit record. It
Speaker 3: took me years. I've been into this subject since I
Speaker 3: was twelve years old. That's a lot of years. I'm
Speaker 3: in my fifties now. I'll be fifty one later this month.
Speaker 3: I've been in the subject for a long time, but
Speaker 3: it took me physically seeing these creatures for me to say, Okay,
Speaker 3: they're real. I've documented a lot of encounters from people,
Speaker 3: so I totally get the seeing is believing mentality. And
Speaker 3: I don't like the term nowhere either, but I've used
Speaker 3: it since my sightings last year.
Speaker 2: I tell people they ask me do you believe, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's beyond that. I said, but I don't
Speaker 2: like the word. But I know the real people just
Speaker 2: look at me and I'm like, and tell you have
Speaker 2: your own experiences. I said, you won't understand what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about until you have it. I ain't going to
Speaker 2: look at you and be like, oh, I'm going to
Speaker 2: try to make you believe, because you ain't going to
Speaker 2: make nobody believe nothing. They might have an open mind
Speaker 2: to it, but when they see it or something happens,
Speaker 2: then it's like their minds blown.
Speaker 3: Seeing is definitely believing. And that's why we're here. So
Speaker 3: let's get right into your experiences. Why don't you take
Speaker 3: us back to where you were, what you were doing,
Speaker 3: and tell us what happened to you.
Speaker 2: This is it goes back about eighty two. I want
Speaker 2: to say I was only about four years old, and
Speaker 2: where I live at is very rural. We're in between
Speaker 2: not big cities, but little cities, so it's a lot
Speaker 2: of rural area. And especially where I lived at, we
Speaker 2: lived on side of a mountain sprim by National Force.
Speaker 2: I grew up very poor. We lived in the house
Speaker 2: that my grandfather originally started building was a two room cabin,
Speaker 2: and then they added two more rooms. And then they
Speaker 2: added the two more rooms. Only plumbing that we had
Speaker 2: was cold water that would run up out of spring.
Speaker 2: We didn't have an outhouse or nothing like that, so
Speaker 2: in order to go to the bathroom, it went outside.
Speaker 2: And of course, being four years old, if I had
Speaker 2: to go pee at Dork, I'm not going outside. It's
Speaker 2: more get right there at the door, stick it out
Speaker 2: and do the business well. I'm also, when I was
Speaker 2: specially younger, I had this fear of bears, and at
Speaker 2: the time, they wouldn't a lot of bears in this
Speaker 2: part of Virginia up. It's one of them things that
Speaker 2: it made the news. You get papers or whatever, somebody
Speaker 2: sing a bear A hell. I'll watched too many killer
Speaker 2: bear movies, so I always looked up the windows before
Speaker 2: opening door whatever, specially at Dork. I don't know what
Speaker 2: time of night it was. I can't remember. I know
Speaker 2: everybody else had gone to bed and everything, so it's
Speaker 2: probably at least after ten o'clock. I was on my
Speaker 2: way to go to the back door and walk by
Speaker 2: the window in their kitchen and I couldn't see or
Speaker 2: back yard and I was like, stop, and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to figure out, okay, why can't I look out something
Speaker 2: blocking the window? And as far as I knew, there
Speaker 2: should have been nothing there blocking the window. I've been
Speaker 2: this countless time. I'm standing there looking and I'm probably
Speaker 2: about four feet away from the window, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, I describe it as it bends down, but
Speaker 2: it really didn't bend down that I could tell. But
Speaker 2: these two red eyes suddenly come into bee. I'm talking
Speaker 2: like a fire cold or something where, like the lit
Speaker 2: cigar or something, and they're just staring right at me.
Speaker 2: And this thing blinks. It's scared crap out of it.
Speaker 2: I screamed. Haller took off, running back and jumping bed Grandpa,
Speaker 2: and of course the whole house woke up and everything,
Speaker 2: and there asked, but what's wrong, And I'm like, I've
Speaker 2: seen something out the window. It had red eyes and
Speaker 2: it was looking at me. And of course all you
Speaker 2: had a nightmare or all you was asleep walking, I
Speaker 2: might know there was something outside that window. Only my
Speaker 2: grandpa really believed that I saw so, because he's now
Speaker 2: he said he wouldn't sleep walking. He got up to
Speaker 2: go bathroom and he said, the boy seen something, but
Speaker 2: what I seen, nobody could tell me. I remember Dad
Speaker 2: and my brother went out and tried to see if
Speaker 2: they seemed like footprints or something, bare tracks or something.
Speaker 2: But for yourd the ground's hard packed around the house
Speaker 2: and everything, they wouldn't been no tracks. I called it
Speaker 2: a devil, is what I called it, because the only
Speaker 2: thing I can imagine having fiery eyes to me, that's
Speaker 2: the devil. Next day couldn't find no sign enough. And
Speaker 2: like I said, this happened about eighty two. I want
Speaker 2: to say this was the spring of the year, because
Speaker 2: I know things were green outside. I remember we had
Speaker 2: this big hayfield. It was not up enough for it
Speaker 2: to be moved. The guy who'd done the hague and everything,
Speaker 2: he only done a one cut, and normally he would
Speaker 2: wait until about the last of July or the first
Speaker 2: of all August to cut the hat. So I know
Speaker 2: the hay wouldn't up to be cut. So I'm figuring
Speaker 2: this is maybe April or May or something. It happened
Speaker 2: to me again, but not at the window, not there
Speaker 2: at the house. Like I said, had that big hay
Speaker 2: field and everything, and we had some keen people come
Speaker 2: over to visit us and everything. And thus cousins were
Speaker 2: outside playing and this was about dust dark. We threw
Speaker 2: rocks up at the bats and the bats would fall
Speaker 2: the rocks. Fun as a kid to watch it and everything.
Speaker 2: But we were all out running around that hayfield. So
Speaker 2: I know this time it was last July early August,
Speaker 2: because we were out in the hayfield playing around and
Speaker 2: they had been cut and building everything. Something down off
Speaker 2: where our road come up the mountain caught my attention.
Speaker 2: It looked like a figure of a man standing there.
Speaker 2: I stopped and I said, what's that? And then the
Speaker 2: red eyes come back and call all my other cousins
Speaker 2: seeing it, and we stopped playing. We huddled together, and
Speaker 2: we was looking important at this thing that's just standing
Speaker 2: down there in the shadows of the woodline, and it's
Speaker 2: watching us. You know, what felt like five minutes or so,
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't probably thirty seconds or something, but it felt longer.
Speaker 2: But any hell, this thing started walking off like a
Speaker 2: mank and he got to where a fence was and
Speaker 2: instead of like a human would have to do to
Speaker 2: bend the bob wire down or climb up on the
Speaker 2: post or something like that, this thing just steps right over,
Speaker 2: and I think I measured that about forty eight inches
Speaker 2: to the top wire or something at one time later
Speaker 2: on in the years, I went back and got in
Speaker 2: the boors getting data of stuff, and I think it
Speaker 2: was about forty eight inches. Any hell, this thing walks
Speaker 2: off down the hall, didn't make hardly bit of sound.
Speaker 2: And of course we run back and when we're telling
Speaker 2: the parents, dolts and stuff, and they don't believe us.
Speaker 2: They think we're just playing around. But even to this day,
Speaker 2: none of my other cousins or nothing, we'll call it
Speaker 2: a bigfoot or a sasquatch or anything like that. They
Speaker 2: just said that thing with red eyes. I can't say
Speaker 2: that kick started looking for bigfoot or nothing like that,
Speaker 2: but it did always stay with me. What did I
Speaker 2: see throughout the years at this same place, this mountain range,
Speaker 2: there's been under things that happened. Probably about five years later,
Speaker 2: I remember going out on we was doing a raccoon
Speaker 2: hunk and the dogs come to this forere. A tree
Speaker 2: had fell over across the road. We had a big
Speaker 2: ice storm a few weeks before that, and the road
Speaker 2: was blocked. And nor would the dogs, being dogs, they
Speaker 2: just went on through the brush or whatever, but that
Speaker 2: dog stopped and we're just standing there. The dog's name
Speaker 2: was Banjo, Banjoe. Come on, man, we're trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how we're going to go around. If you went
Speaker 2: off below the roads, you had to preach drop off.
Speaker 2: It was steep. It wasn't just that far, probably about
Speaker 2: three or four foot, but it pretty vertical. And then
Speaker 2: the other way was a lot of brush. So we're
Speaker 2: just standing around there talking and our lights are on
Speaker 2: and everything, and all of a sudden, on the other
Speaker 2: side of that brush pile, this object comes flying out
Speaker 2: and it hits me in the chest, but I catch it,
Speaker 2: and I look down and it's a rock about that
Speaker 2: big or so, and I might who's throwing rocks? And
Speaker 2: who's back in this port? From our house that's probably
Speaker 2: a mile back in there, and that old road it
Speaker 2: was just no roads. What it is. The gates were
Speaker 2: locked to it. They shouldn't have been nobody back there.
Speaker 2: So we're like, okay, we walked from our house out
Speaker 2: through here. If somebody else walked ether had been like
Speaker 2: two or three more miles walking in there, who's back there?
Speaker 2: That they would rocks? The old still would not go
Speaker 2: in that brush, and so we get bright the I
Speaker 2: the old one of us is gonna walk around one way,
Speaker 2: and one's gonna stay there, and then another one's gonna
Speaker 2: go blow to road. We find no sign of anybody
Speaker 2: being around there, and that dog just it ended up
Speaker 2: leaving us there and it went back to the house,
Speaker 2: which was very unusual. That dog was never afraid of anything,
Speaker 2: but it acted free. Then there was another time that
Speaker 2: we get in trouble. I have an older brother and
Speaker 2: a sister, and Dad been throwing them rocks up on
Speaker 2: top of that house. Again, no, because we knew what
Speaker 2: that was gonna end up being. That was gonna be
Speaker 2: a butt whooping, and you didn't want Naddy whooping your butt.
Speaker 2: So the hell he's I keep finding these rocks up here?
Speaker 2: Where y'all kids throwing these rocks up here? Like No,
Speaker 2: of course, brother, he'd blamed me or my sister and
Speaker 2: vice versa and everything. So really none of us was
Speaker 2: throwing the rocks up there, but somehow rocks were getting
Speaker 2: on top of the house. Years went on and we
Speaker 2: moved away from her, but not too far down in
Speaker 2: the town, but we still will go up there. It
Speaker 2: used to be my grandpa and grandmother's form. But they
Speaker 2: got divorced. They ended up selling to this other day,
Speaker 2: and all he really wanted was the Hayfield stuff. He's, hey,
Speaker 2: if y'all want to live in the house, keep an
Speaker 2: eye all my stuff up here and everything. He ain't
Speaker 2: gonna charge y'all no rent or nothing. So we had
Speaker 2: a good little deal there. We kept an eye all
Speaker 2: his stuff, and he didn't have to worry about nothing,
Speaker 2: and we had a place to live. But like I said,
Speaker 2: we moved off Mayor, but we'd still go up there
Speaker 2: when we had dogs and hogs and chickens and stuff
Speaker 2: up there. Really nothing seemed to bother anything up there.
Speaker 2: You'd have a cane or a possumbord foxes or whatever
Speaker 2: to get a chicken every once a while. But that
Speaker 2: was about him. It was probably, I want to say,
Speaker 2: about two thousand and two. Maybe I know that me
Speaker 2: and my wife we had both lost their jobs, and
Speaker 2: around here the economy was worse than a lot of
Speaker 2: rest of the country, so job market it looked too good.
Speaker 2: And I told her her, I said, we can go
Speaker 2: up there and live in that place, and it won't
Speaker 2: cost us nothing. You don't have no toilet or nothing
Speaker 2: like eggs. He said, okay, we'll do that. So we're
Speaker 2: up there and of course taking care of the animals
Speaker 2: and everything. And I remember one night our goats. Normally
Speaker 2: at dark they would go into the barn and they
Speaker 2: wouldn't come out till daylight. But I remember they came
Speaker 2: out and was running around the house, which that was
Speaker 2: totally unusual for them. They would come out occasionally, especially
Speaker 2: if it was a warm night or something. I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe it was bugs in there disturbing on the whatever,
Speaker 2: but the fact that they was running around the house
Speaker 2: a bunch, I was like they something got them goats
Speaker 2: stirred up. I said, I had to go out here
Speaker 2: and check on it and everything, and that's one of that.
Speaker 2: I went out and I had a light, but it
Speaker 2: was like as soon as I went out the door,
Speaker 2: I caught this whiff of something horrible smelling. And I
Speaker 2: can't quite describe it. I've not heard of anybody really
Speaker 2: described the smell of it, right down to the tea.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a mixture stuff hair, something dead,
Speaker 2: sulferus smell something what I'm like, God, And my first
Speaker 2: thought was that must be a bear around here, because
Speaker 2: they started bringing bears and kind of restalk in about
Speaker 2: that time, and that's what I thought. I thought they
Speaker 2: must be a bear out there, and that the bourn
Speaker 2: it's what got them goats up. So I'm like, I'll
Speaker 2: go out there and I'll probably get barrel take off
Speaker 2: if it's still out there or whatever. I go out
Speaker 2: there at the bourn, there's nothing there. I'm thinking, where's
Speaker 2: that smell coming from? These deep poll are off on
Speaker 2: the other side of the house, and you could just
Speaker 2: tell that smell was coming to foul that holler, So
Speaker 2: ain't hell. I go back in the house and everything,
Speaker 2: and probably about thirty minutes later I go back outside.
Speaker 2: You couldn't smell. I mean, the smell was gone. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that's a little weird.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more sasquatch hot to see we're
Speaker 3: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: And then there was probably maybe a month or two
Speaker 2: later there was another night where the goats were acting
Speaker 2: crazy and all this and that, and once again that smell,
Speaker 2: but this time it smelled like it was coming up
Speaker 2: from the top of the mountain or off at the
Speaker 2: top of the mountain. What it was. Never did see anything,
Speaker 2: but I was just like, man, what is it smell?
Speaker 2: And in the back of my mind I kept thinking
Speaker 2: about I've read stuff about how bad sasquatch smell one
Speaker 2: stuff like that, Okay, maybe there's a bigfoot around here.
Speaker 2: And I don't heard the bigfoots having glowing eyes and
Speaker 2: everything like that. I'm like, Okay, maybe they gives a
Speaker 2: bigfoot to it. I don't know, but it was probably
Speaker 2: the same time Mountain Stairs come out. Now I love
Speaker 2: that TV show, but don't get me wrong, I don't
Speaker 2: one of these people would believe these guys are actually
Speaker 2: out here doing the hunting, you know what I mean leaving.
Speaker 2: I know it's a TV show, but he hell loved it.
Speaker 2: But I have a cousin who was telling more believing
Speaker 2: that they was really after him. So he let's go
Speaker 2: let the big foot, let's go look bigfoot and everything.
Speaker 2: We want to do it at night time and all that.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'll tell you, I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: you here on this one part of the mountain. I
Speaker 2: never told anybody where else going or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, hey, I'm gonna take you out here
Speaker 2: where I know nobody can mess with us. And then
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see if you're afraid the dark or whatever.
Speaker 2: We're coming up on these old wall with skid roads
Speaker 2: and everything, and I remember we come to this one
Speaker 2: spot and it was just like, I need to sit
Speaker 2: down there. And we probably have been sitting there maybe
Speaker 2: five minutes or something, and there was hood else. One
Speaker 2: was on one ridge and one was over on the
Speaker 2: other ridge, and they was hooping backwards forest and I
Speaker 2: just back to them, and that probably went on for
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, and I remember what I made
Speaker 2: one on them back to them, and they was something too,
Speaker 2: something I should say higher up on the mountain swalled out.
Speaker 2: The only way I can take it. It sounded like chimpanzees,
Speaker 2: and they started screaming out. They were coming towards us.
Speaker 2: You couldn't hear the brush cracking and popping and everything,
Speaker 2: but you could tell the screams were getting closer and closer.
Speaker 2: Now I've heard enough coats and by there ain't colats.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at my cousin his eyes seving in
Speaker 2: the dark. You could tell his eyes were like huge,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Okay, something's coming towards his cousin had shotgun.
Speaker 2: I had a pistol him like, okay, I'd say within
Speaker 2: about fifty to seventy five yards, these things stopped. You
Speaker 2: couldn't hear. They just went silent, and he's looking at
Speaker 2: me and I'm looking at him, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I got this night vision. I said, whatever there, we
Speaker 2: should be able to see something. And now this thing
Speaker 2: had never stopped working for me whatsoever. I never had
Speaker 2: a problem with it until that time. It was nothing
Speaker 2: but snowy static on the scripting. I couldn't see nothing,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, old crap. And I remember I lowered
Speaker 2: them down, and when my eyes got adjusted back to
Speaker 2: the night, it looked like something crossed the road and
Speaker 2: one step, like a man, a big man walked across
Speaker 2: that little skid road in one step. Now I went
Speaker 2: out there for and it took me four steps to
Speaker 2: get across. So whatever, it was longer leg than I am,
Speaker 2: and I'm six' one so not too awful, tall but
Speaker 2: not short. EITHER a memory of just everything was so
Speaker 2: silent then you couldn't hear. Nothing probably about ten minutes of,
Speaker 2: that and it's, okay we need to get out. Here
Speaker 2: and he agreed with me and. Everything so we got out.
Speaker 2: There we didn't have anything happened to us until we
Speaker 2: got down towards the bottom of the mount AND i
Speaker 2: heard a. Whistle he heard it. Too it sounded like
Speaker 2: somebody just went and we both looked over and didn't see.
Speaker 2: Nothing and we probably had about three hundred more yards
Speaker 2: back to the, truck and when we got to the,
Speaker 2: truck unlocking doors and, everything AND i REMEMBER i tried
Speaker 2: that night. Vision think we're, fine And i'm just, like,
Speaker 2: OKAY i heard of cryptic interference on. ELECTRONICS i don't
Speaker 2: know if that's what happened or if it was just
Speaker 2: a glitch or. Something never had a problem out of it,
Speaker 2: again SO i don't know what exactly happened, Then but
Speaker 2: that really got me into what was. That i'm, LIKE
Speaker 2: i never heard that. Sound AND i grew up on
Speaker 2: the country boy being, hunting being out dead and stuff
Speaker 2: from my grandpa and stuff and, everything AND i knew
Speaker 2: the sounds of the woods ground here And i've never
Speaker 2: heard nothing like. That the Closest i've heard of that
Speaker 2: it's chimp, pansies and we don't have no. Chimpanzees we
Speaker 2: don't even have a zoo round. Here i'm, like what's
Speaker 2: chimpanzee like noises happening around? Here and then somebody is
Speaker 2: talking to he's he ever heard The sierra? Sounds i'm, like,
Speaker 2: now what's. That i'm thinking, it's you, know somebody out
Speaker 2: in The sierra's wind blowing through the canyons or. WHATEVER
Speaker 2: i didn't know it was related To. Bigfoot and THEN
Speaker 2: i heard And i'm, like oh my, god that sounded
Speaker 2: a whole lot like, that except for what we heard
Speaker 2: was on a much higher pitch and. Tone AND i
Speaker 2: got thinking and ridding more up on stuff and, everything
Speaker 2: And i'm, LIKE i think we got a sasquatch around,
Speaker 2: here being out doing some other investigations and. Everything and
Speaker 2: NOW i find stuff At i'm, LIKE i know one
Speaker 2: TIME i was walking through the peace of property that
Speaker 2: orders WHERE i was, at and there was this tree across.
Speaker 2: Road the wind done it or, something AND i REMEMBER
Speaker 2: i had to walk around, it and there's a deer laying,
Speaker 2: there AND i got, thinking somebody shot a. Deer you
Speaker 2: could see it had been, shot but the CODs and stuff
Speaker 2: had got to it and, everything and it had been
Speaker 2: eating on it and. Everything it really wasn't no way
Speaker 2: of being, Like, okay what's been eating on? It because
Speaker 2: they've been multiple things eating on. It but what got
Speaker 2: me was THAT i was coming back around with saying
Speaker 2: way Because i'm, Like i'm not going to go further
Speaker 2: off that. Way BUT i found this tree. Break, now at,
Speaker 2: first it didn't really anything special UNTIL i got noticing
Speaker 2: that it was twisted and. Broke and then WHEN i
Speaker 2: got looking, CLOSER i found a HAND i can't say
Speaker 2: of the whole, handprint but you could see a bloody
Speaker 2: thumb and four, fingers AND i might is that SOMEBODY
Speaker 2: i don't know why they were have a bloody hand
Speaker 2: there and grab hold of a. Tree i'm, like somebody doesn't.
Speaker 2: That now this was a little bit bigger than like
Speaker 2: a broomstick or. Something it was more like a toilet paper.
Speaker 2: Rolling i'm, LIKE i don't know. Them if a man
Speaker 2: could break a green sapling like, That i'm guessing they
Speaker 2: strong enough. Men But i'm just, LIKE i don't know,
Speaker 2: it And i'm, like holy, CRAP i don't. Know did
Speaker 2: something drag it beer and there maybe was trying to
Speaker 2: eat on it butter? STUFF i don't. Know BUT i
Speaker 2: started noticing more stuff happening out through this mountain range
Speaker 2: and other places in this. Area And i've had people
Speaker 2: come up and tell on me about rocks being throwed at,
Speaker 2: them or they hear voices in the. Distance it was
Speaker 2: right on the edge of hearing it sounded like a human.
Speaker 2: Voice but then when they go to look or. Something
Speaker 2: i've had this happened. MYSELF i know last, SPRING i
Speaker 2: THOUGHT i heard women coming up a. Trail no wait
Speaker 2: it BECAUSE i didn't want to walk around to be in.
Speaker 2: There nothing scared nobody or nothing like. That but they
Speaker 2: never showed. Up they didn't turn around and leave because
Speaker 2: they've never heard them walk. Off i'm, Like, okay maybe
Speaker 2: there's a bigfoot in here or something being out in
Speaker 2: the woods and. Everything we all know that limbs fall
Speaker 2: out trees and they land in the, ground don't stick.
Speaker 2: There so What i've got NOTICED i got noticed in
Speaker 2: this one particular area next to a campground, actually but
Speaker 2: the campground ain'ttten used very. Much but now WHAT i
Speaker 2: was talking about, Sticks it's like you go over there
Speaker 2: and the ones that fell out tree by the wind or,
Speaker 2: whatever and you push them a little bit and they
Speaker 2: just fall right. Over some of these are like six
Speaker 2: inches down in the, ground and then whenever you pull them,
Speaker 2: out you're judging the weight there and you're, like there's
Speaker 2: not enough weight to this to be blowed out and
Speaker 2: stick in the ground like. That this has been pushed
Speaker 2: into the. Ground i'm, like, okay as this kids or
Speaker 2: somebody playing around and. Stuff but THEN i find it
Speaker 2: places where they REALLY i ain't gonna say it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be nobody, there but really nobody has any reason to be,
Speaker 2: there and the, listener like me looking for. Something i've
Speaker 2: smelled that smell on quite a few. Places i've heard
Speaker 2: some distant sounds The ohio, Hell i've heard hip and
Speaker 2: even the doll in the cat they heard It tea
Speaker 2: because we sat on the porch on this another guy's
Speaker 2: land and it was in the. Distance but it was
Speaker 2: funny to watch that cat and that dog just go
Speaker 2: from being relaxed and everything to just looking. Around the
Speaker 2: hairs on my neck was sticking. Up that the dog
Speaker 2: had a mohawk going, on And i'm, like, YEAH i feel, you.
Speaker 2: BUDDY i think they speak for the around.
Speaker 3: HERE i want to go back to the first couple
Speaker 3: of sightings that you had when you were a, kid
Speaker 3: and talk a little bit about those red, eyes just
Speaker 3: for the audience in my, sake Because i've talked about
Speaker 3: this so many times on the. SHOW i used to
Speaker 3: think people who said they saw what they described as
Speaker 3: self illuminating eyes were completely full of. Shit that was
Speaker 3: always my go to UNTIL i saw it. Myself last
Speaker 3: summer In Washington, STATE i saw white glowing. Eyes we
Speaker 3: saw two sets of. THEM i was ten feet away
Speaker 3: from these. Things let's talk a little bit.
Speaker 2: About the red.
Speaker 3: Eyes is that what you're describing that you. Saw can
Speaker 3: you talk a little bit more in detail about.
Speaker 2: That, yeah the eyes were self, illuminating whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call. It think of it like lightning. Bugs these
Speaker 2: things glowed on their. Own it wasn't light reflecting off.
Speaker 2: Anything because word the creature. Was it was in the
Speaker 2: shadow of the, house AND i had no lights on
Speaker 2: in the. House there was no lights on in the
Speaker 2: house because the moonlight was enough to see, outside AND
Speaker 2: i could see in the house good enough THAT i
Speaker 2: didn't need a light. ON i know where everything was
Speaker 2: in the house from hitting near, water and the creature
Speaker 2: was in the shadow of the, house so it couldn't
Speaker 2: have been the moonlight reflecting off of its eyes. Either
Speaker 2: and then when it was down off in the, holler
Speaker 2: the sun had done, set there was no moon coming.
Speaker 2: Up and this thing's down off in the holler and
Speaker 2: its eyes are glowing and you see, them you watch it. Blink,
Speaker 2: now that's WHAT i keep telling in, there like maybe
Speaker 2: if somebody's sending down there or, something how did they
Speaker 2: make the eyes? Blink but, yeah people have asked, me
Speaker 2: could have been some kind of light reflecting off of? It,
Speaker 2: now these things were. Glowing they wasn't casting out no
Speaker 2: light like a flashlight or a nothing like. That they
Speaker 2: were just. Glowing talk to a lady and she was
Speaker 2: telling me that from her, experience they can do different
Speaker 2: types of coward. Ice she's thinking maybe Arig is maybe
Speaker 2: like an intimidation thing or maybe mad about. Something and
Speaker 2: then a green more just to say hey HERE i.
Speaker 2: Am but, yeah they scared. Me, MAN i don't know
Speaker 2: even if TODAY i think, today if i'd seen them
Speaker 2: again that, close i'd pass, out have a heart. ATTACK
Speaker 2: i could probably handle them to see him say as
Speaker 2: fORCH as long as he ain't got red, ice amis
Speaker 2: will haunt me for risk my.
Speaker 3: Life, yeah it's definitely no. Joke, man when you're that
Speaker 3: close to, something and that's something ELSE i want to
Speaker 3: talk a little bit, about is looking, back have you
Speaker 3: thought about why you had that experience at four years?
Speaker 3: Old have you considered how close this thing was to
Speaker 3: where you were and what it might have been. Doing
Speaker 3: was it possibly looking for a way into the house
Speaker 3: or was it waiting on somebody to come.
Speaker 2: Out my initial thought was something's trying to get. Me
Speaker 2: that was my initial. Thought and then when we see it,
Speaker 2: AGAIN i thought it was watching. Us, now this thing
Speaker 2: was smart enough to. Know now see if the adults
Speaker 2: were outside, too they were probably about one hundred yards
Speaker 2: away from, us but were they was sitting at their
Speaker 2: view down to that haller was blocked by the hill,
Speaker 2: itself so you had to be out in the field
Speaker 2: to be able to look down there and see. It
Speaker 2: it was smart enough to. Know. NOW i don't know
Speaker 2: where it comes. FROM i don't know if it come
Speaker 2: off of the mountain or if it come up out
Speaker 2: of the haller or something like. THAT i just know
Speaker 2: we look down there and there it, is had come.
Speaker 2: Out it's standing in the. Road what it was it was, like,
Speaker 2: okay it kind of quit not trying to, hide but
Speaker 2: at the same time it stayed back far enough and.
Speaker 2: Down then it used to train and everything to its,
Speaker 2: vantage so it knew what it was. Doing and then
Speaker 2: whenever realized, that, hey we see, you that's when it
Speaker 2: walked off and. Everything now to add to that whole scenario,
Speaker 2: THERE i didn't find this out Until thanksgiving. Day my
Speaker 2: sister had an encounter with rock throwing about the same.
Speaker 2: Time we had our closest. Neighbor LIKE i, said maybe
Speaker 2: a mile. Away there was another house in another cabin
Speaker 2: that's closer to, us but nobody. Stated one of them
Speaker 2: was just no hunting. Cabin they'd come In november and
Speaker 2: dear hunt and then they'd leave and not come. Back
Speaker 2: there was another house and she would come maybe every two,
Speaker 2: weeks spend a, weekend and then she would go back
Speaker 2: to where she lived. At but actually the closest people
Speaker 2: there is probably about a mile. Away and there was
Speaker 2: a boy he was about the same age as, us and,
Speaker 2: everything especially my, sister and she'd been OVERWHERE i played
Speaker 2: around over at his house and. Everything they was down
Speaker 2: the creek catching, crawdads and she used to getting. Dark
Speaker 2: IF i don't get, Home mom And dad will kill
Speaker 2: me or. Whatever and she said that she was walking
Speaker 2: home and something start throwing rocks at, her and she
Speaker 2: thought it was that.
Speaker 3: Boy stay tuned for more sasquatch out to.
Speaker 2: See we'll be right back after these. Messages so she
Speaker 2: hollered at him and there if they had quit throwing them.
Speaker 2: Rocks he was on his porch and he, heard and he,
Speaker 2: SAID i ain't over. There and she, SAID i took off.
Speaker 2: RUN i would run a little bit and. Stop and
Speaker 2: she SAID i could hear something come and. Stop WHEN i.
Speaker 2: Walked it would. Walk WHEN i, stopped it. Stopped but
Speaker 2: it was like a second or a step behind. Her
Speaker 2: you know What i'm saying is she would have to
Speaker 2: take a step and then it would take a. Step
Speaker 2: but she's, Now i'd never seen anything what she. Didn't
Speaker 2: AND i, said that was about the same time we've
Speaker 2: seen that red. Eye say her eyes listened. On, yeah that.
Speaker 2: WAS i don't know IF i think they're curious in.
Speaker 2: KIDS i don't know what their fascination is with. KIDS
Speaker 2: i don't know if you're looking to maybe steal them
Speaker 2: for some, reason or if they're just fascinated with. It
Speaker 2: AND i think that's why it was looking in the.
Speaker 2: WINDOW i don't know if maybe he'd been scouting and knowing, that,
Speaker 2: hey somebody will come back here at this, door and
Speaker 2: it was just hung around there, Whatever Because i'm pretty
Speaker 2: well sure it could pattern my. Grandparents my parents go,
Speaker 2: through they pretty much had a set bedtime and. Everything of,
Speaker 2: course WHEN i was that, LITTLE i had a set bedtime.
Speaker 2: Too you WHEN i grew up and. Everything it was
Speaker 2: living Up, EARTH i might be up until o'clock or
Speaker 2: whatever or something like. That so it might've threw it
Speaker 2: off and. Everything but it's like, now with all The
Speaker 2: Hurricane helena damage and everything like, THAT i feel that
Speaker 2: they've come closer to that house. Now and the really
Speaker 2: weird thing is we've had a population deer explosion and
Speaker 2: bar explosion here In, virginia and that mountain That i'm
Speaker 2: talking about always had deer on. There there was time
Speaker 2: when people would drive one hundred miles or more to
Speaker 2: come to that mountain in that area the Hook, deer
Speaker 2: because that was one of the last few places that
Speaker 2: the original deer In virginia were still, at so they
Speaker 2: would drive all the way. OVER i joke, around But
Speaker 2: i'm not. Lying deer, season rifle season was Like christmas to.
Speaker 2: Us we'd had people come over and they give us
Speaker 2: candy and stuff like. That it felt Like christmas. Time
Speaker 2: so the half stuff going, on AND i remember going.
Speaker 2: Hunting this Was turkey. Season BUT i remember coming up
Speaker 2: in the woods and out through wear and, everything and
Speaker 2: they was not the teepees type, structures but they was
Speaker 2: these structures THAT i was, like what done? That and
Speaker 2: that's all that's just some hunter and he made a
Speaker 2: blind or. Whatever and at the TIME i didn't really
Speaker 2: think nothing about. IT i took him for his. Word
Speaker 2: but looking back on it, NOW i remember those structures
Speaker 2: was as tall as he, was and it made no
Speaker 2: sense why somebody would get behind something when they couldn't
Speaker 2: see over. It i'm, saying so either something was tall
Speaker 2: enough to look over it or that was no freaking
Speaker 2: blind For. Hut it just didn't make no. Sense BUT
Speaker 2: i know That dad and then would talk about a
Speaker 2: creature on that. Mountain was it a big foot or
Speaker 2: what board ain't enough shuk spinish some kind of. CREATURE
Speaker 2: i THINK i know what it. Is. NOW i want
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about the.
Speaker 3: Vocalizations that's another thing THAT i have. EXPERIENCED a ton
Speaker 3: of and it fascinates me for a myriad of. Reasons
Speaker 3: i've heard on our property here In North, carolina what
Speaker 3: sounds like The ohio how that you talked. About we
Speaker 3: heard that in the distance behind us a mile and a.
Speaker 3: Half we've heard other similar. Sounds we've heard that even.
Speaker 3: Closer and WHEN i had my sightings AND i had
Speaker 3: my encounters last, summer we were being whistled at these.
Speaker 3: Things we were tracking the, whistling and that's what drew
Speaker 3: us to a certain area and THEN i ultimate lee
Speaker 3: was within ten.
Speaker 2: Feet of these.
Speaker 3: Things that's one of the things that has really always
Speaker 3: fascinated me is so many TIMES i talk to people
Speaker 3: and they would never see these creatures if it weren't
Speaker 3: for the. Vocalizations and of course it's all. Subjective we
Speaker 3: don't have any clue about what's really going. On but
Speaker 3: have you given any thought to why these things are?
Speaker 3: Vocalizing do you think it's an? Intimidation do you think
Speaker 3: they're just curious and trying to get our? Attention what
Speaker 3: do you think it is with the, Vocalizations because sometimes
Speaker 3: if they would just stop, vocalizing we would never see.
Speaker 2: Them oh, yeah. EXACTLY i agree with. YOU i think
Speaker 2: it's a culmination of. THINGS i think it is an
Speaker 2: intimidation thing in some. Situations in some, SITUATIONS i think
Speaker 2: it's they're curious about, us because most of, time if
Speaker 2: you hear something out of, ordinary what do you?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 2: Look? Look you jerk your head and. Look and these
Speaker 2: other TIMES i think they genuinely mess with. US i
Speaker 2: think PEOPLE i don't think they give them enough of.
Speaker 2: Intelligence AND i don't know where you on the. Spectrum
Speaker 2: is it an? Ape is it this or? THAT i
Speaker 2: don't know what it. IS i used to, think, oh
Speaker 2: it's just an, ape BUT i don't lean that way.
Speaker 2: Anymore i'm still not saying that it's not an, ape
Speaker 2: but this is a very intelligent bit just because they
Speaker 2: ain't building houses and stuff like. That it's learned to
Speaker 2: live a different way than, us if it ain't from
Speaker 2: another dimension or. Whatever BUT i do believe that this
Speaker 2: intimidation going on. THERE i think there's curiosity going on,
Speaker 2: there AND i think they're playing with us at times
Speaker 2: just to meet half a laugh amongst themselves or. SOMETHING
Speaker 2: i kind of joke Grim my grandpa used to mess with.
Speaker 2: People he had glass, eye and if these people come around,
Speaker 2: there he didn't wi. It he pop that eye out
Speaker 2: and put in the glass water and then drink. It of,
Speaker 2: course those people didn't come back. Around Sometimes i'm wondering
Speaker 2: if that ain't what happens with them. TOO i wonder
Speaker 2: if they, like, hey watch, This i'm gonna scare them out.
Speaker 2: Here if something, over let's see what they. Do BUT
Speaker 2: i remember one TIME i was a turkey hunting AND
Speaker 2: i kept hearing from, Man i'm want to see a.
Speaker 2: BEAR i just sit down there and, everything AND i
Speaker 2: keep hearing, it and it's behind me off probably twenty
Speaker 2: five thirty, yards but it's in the thick, stuff And i'm,
Speaker 2: like that's a. BEAR i know it's a, bear But
Speaker 2: i'm just gonna stay here and everything and UNTIL i
Speaker 2: get more of a. Warning and it's things moving after
Speaker 2: the way it's, Going i'm, like it's got it cross
Speaker 2: right out here in this. OPENING i never saw, nothing
Speaker 2: but the noise kept on, going And i'm, like what done?
Speaker 2: THAT i watched up that road on it nothing ever crossed,
Speaker 2: it but yet something went making the, noise and then
Speaker 2: it went up and on up in the, mountain AND
Speaker 2: i never seen bear or. ANYTHING i still can't explain
Speaker 2: that and let it's a sasquatched cloak or able to
Speaker 2: throw it's voice of vocals or something like. THAT i don't,
Speaker 2: know believe it or.
Speaker 3: Not there are skeptics that listen to this, show and
Speaker 3: this is Something i've been asking people recently to talk
Speaker 3: directly to people that are going to hear this and, say,
Speaker 3: Oh andy's full of, shit that's not. Real he didn't
Speaker 3: see what he thinks he. Saw you have your opportunity
Speaker 3: to talk directly to a skeptic right. Now let's pretend
Speaker 3: they're in the. Room what is it that you want
Speaker 3: skeptics to understand, about not just your experience and what
Speaker 3: you experienced and, saw heard and. Smelled what do you
Speaker 3: want them to understand about your experiences and the experiences
Speaker 3: that other people have with these.
Speaker 2: CREATURES i would like for me, to, okay explain to
Speaker 2: me what it. Was, Then i've smelled BEARS i needed
Speaker 2: to work with the game. Department they go pick up
Speaker 2: bears that had been run over or. Something i've Smelled
Speaker 2: bard did where they did mned up at it and
Speaker 2: everything that is not the same. Smell so what AM
Speaker 2: i smelling? It what the? Go Because i've smelled a
Speaker 2: similar smell and wasn't no goats brown. There it wasn't
Speaker 2: no dead vegetation and stuff because somebody's Splint And i'm, like,
Speaker 2: NO i don't think it was hitting. Either and you
Speaker 2: go back and look in, everything and you're, like, no
Speaker 2: that ain't quite meeting the criteria what it would take
Speaker 2: to cause that smell and, Everything and like the, visualization
Speaker 2: what was THAT i? SAW i, don't, well you tell
Speaker 2: me has all it was? Now and it wasn't no
Speaker 2: a freaking out the. Window the mass of its shoulder.
Speaker 2: AREA i didn't get a good look at. IT i
Speaker 2: could just tell it was something broad, shoulder and it
Speaker 2: didn't seem to have a. Neck but as far as
Speaker 2: looking at facial features or a flat nose or anything like,
Speaker 2: that a hairy face and, WATER i didn't see. That
Speaker 2: ALL i see was those. Eyes when it was off
Speaker 2: in the distance down, there you could tell it was man's,
Speaker 2: shape but it looked like you could say it was
Speaker 2: maybe like a man in a. Gilla, See, OKAY i
Speaker 2: could believe up until he stepped across the fence and
Speaker 2: made no. Noise my thing, IS i can understand the
Speaker 2: skepticism got all these trail cameras out. There, hell come,
Speaker 2: in got a. Picture there's no fossil records of them or. Whatever, Okay,
Speaker 2: OKAY i can't give you. That that's What i'm out
Speaker 2: here looking. For i'm trying to find some evidence or
Speaker 2: something or. Whatever but at the same, time you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to prove to me that it wasn't a. Sasquatch
Speaker 2: you can laugh at. ME i don't care. Anymore but
Speaker 2: as Less drell put, it even if you have a
Speaker 2: thousand reported sightings or encounters and, everything and ninety nine
Speaker 2: percent of them are misidentification of hoax or, whatever they's
Speaker 2: still that slim stuff that you just can't quite. Know
Speaker 2: it wasn't. Hopax it wasn't. Misidentification what Was it wasn't
Speaker 2: that long ago that Most europeans didn't know they was
Speaker 2: really guerrillas, yep people In. Africa, hey, yeah we've been saying.
Speaker 2: Them but these things are up, here all know? They
Speaker 2: and then what, Happens, oh, yeah there's grill. Us these
Speaker 2: people OVER i think lows maybe here somewhere is they
Speaker 2: was talking about they had a deer like animal in.
Speaker 2: There all know they ain't no such careers over. Here
Speaker 2: and then all of a, sudden there's the proof that
Speaker 2: there really is large creatures that oh they ain't, Real
Speaker 2: yeah they. WAS i think that's where we're at right.
Speaker 2: NOW i think we're in that. Whole they are legitimate
Speaker 2: sightings and. Encounters, yes they are plenty of. Hopeses there
Speaker 2: are plenty a mist. Identification but when you take the
Speaker 2: person of, Hey i've seen bears walk on two, legs
Speaker 2: this thing did not walk the same way as a.
Speaker 2: Bear it walked more like a, man but not quite like.
Speaker 2: Man it was more. Smooth bears stand. Up they don't
Speaker 2: look sam if you see them from. Side their profiles
Speaker 2: do not match the. Smell, AGAIN i can't find nothing
Speaker 2: that matches. Out and what else throws? Rocks? Man bears
Speaker 2: don't throw no. Rocks they might flip rocks over, whatever
Speaker 2: but they don't pick it up and throw it at.
Speaker 2: You there ain't no man than it, Was, well throw
Speaker 2: a rock at.
Speaker 3: You that is definitely the.
Speaker 2: Truth all. Right last.
Speaker 3: Question this is probably a little unfair because your sighting's
Speaker 3: happened when you were so, young But i'll ask it.
Speaker 3: Anyway just given what you know now versus then if
Speaker 3: you could go back to that, moment knowing what you know,
Speaker 3: now would you still want to have that experience again
Speaker 3: or would you erase it completely and wait until you're,
Speaker 3: older say about, now to have that experience.
Speaker 2: Now i'd want to have it, then BECAUSE i don't
Speaker 2: know IF i could handle. It i'm not, old But
Speaker 2: i've got a few more gray hers and. EVERYTHING i
Speaker 2: don't know if the old heart could take. That just
Speaker 2: something that close to you and you're, like whoa AS
Speaker 2: i told people, asked like myth became a reality for.
Speaker 2: Me maybe not right then in that second and, everything
Speaker 2: but then when the light bulb finally went, off And i'm,
Speaker 2: LIKE i THINK i seen a. Sasquatch and then it
Speaker 2: was like pretty, much NOW i KNOW i saw a.
Speaker 2: SASQUATCH i had a sasquatch staring at. Me i'm glad
Speaker 2: it did happen when it was, younger because it started
Speaker 2: getting my curiosity just things to investigate stuff and EVERYTHING
Speaker 2: i find out the answers to stuff instead of JUST
Speaker 2: i listened to somebody's word and. Everything whenever you just feel, like,
Speaker 2: no that ain't quite, right that don't seem, right because
Speaker 2: a MORE i don't, know, happy not, Happy they ain't that.
Speaker 2: WORD i don't. Know as a, kid it's just a kid.
Speaker 2: STUFF i don't, know but, YEAH i would not want
Speaker 2: to get that situation a race from my. Mind it's
Speaker 2: the one things that you wish you then what you
Speaker 2: know now type, Deals AND i don't. Know MAYBE i
Speaker 2: would have tried to went out door to get a
Speaker 2: better look at, her or flick the light switch, on
Speaker 2: because we did have a light there, outside right next
Speaker 2: to where it would have been. At in other, words
Speaker 2: in my mind was the oh, yeah turn light, on
Speaker 2: see what it. Was it was, like get out. HERE
Speaker 2: i definitely get. It Dye, man thank you so much
Speaker 2: for coming on and sharing your. Experiences have had a
Speaker 2: blast talking to. You thank you for having. Me it's
Speaker 2: been a. Pleasure if anybody out there wants to check
Speaker 2: out some of the stuff up, pictures we have a
Speaker 2: Little facebook thing and TikTok Uh Cryptic investigations Of, Appalachia.
Speaker 2: Cia catch a lot of flat for that, one But i'm,
Speaker 2: like oh, Whatever but we're not saying that what we're
Speaker 2: posting is Absolutely bigfoot related or we do speculate some of.
Speaker 2: It we're just trying to get investigating. Stuff just recently
Speaker 2: went to an air that seemed very. Promising AND i
Speaker 2: don't do too much night investigations BECAUSE a you can't see,
Speaker 2: nothing AND i don't want no snakes or nothing biting
Speaker 2: me or nothing like. That and what are you going
Speaker 2: to do if something does come charging at you in
Speaker 2: the dark or, something and at that time you're gonna
Speaker 2: miss so much other. Stuff SO i like to do
Speaker 2: a lot of daytime. Investigating AND i remember we did
Speaker 2: go back there and we tried a few do a
Speaker 2: little tall blast and didn't get. Nothing BUT i REMEMBER
Speaker 2: i was, Like i'm not leaving out here UNTIL i
Speaker 2: do my version of The. Ohio HOW i let it
Speaker 2: rip and it was like forty five seconds, Later, god
Speaker 2: we're right, back and it was like whoa wait at
Speaker 2: a volume and where it comes. From it was, like
Speaker 2: if that's a, human he's got to have some big
Speaker 2: lungs because you've felt it and not just heard, it
Speaker 2: but you felt. It Then i'm, like, OKAY i will
Speaker 2: be back in here at the dear. Season these says
Speaker 2: you don't gotta go, home.
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Speaker 4: a world up its side.
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Speaker 3: Joy stay right, there.
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