WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:12.839 Get ready. 2 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:16.719 May one, twenty twenty six, allegedly according to that thing 3 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.879 we call a calendar. Does that mean it's May day? Hell, 4 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.559 I don't remember anyway. It is what it is, It 5 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:25.199 was what it was, and it going to be what 6 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:28.160 it going to be. It is Friday, and therefore the 7 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:30.679 open mic, and that means you can call in and 8 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:33.759 join us. Now. I thought about doing a news show 9 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.200 this week, but as soon as I started digging into 10 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.240 the news and realized that the guy who shot at 11 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.560 Trump or tried to shoot at Trump or whatever it 12 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.240 was he was doing with his manifesto and telling people 13 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:51.520 his truly left wing, disjointed insanity that makes no sense 14 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.640 to anybody, but I guess him, and why he had 15 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:57.159 to go after Trump and the weird reaction and Trump 16 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.000 continuing to eat his salad, and of course the conspiration 17 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.640 theories began. But the fact that some reports say this 18 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.239 guy also was like one of the people that drove 19 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.000 I don't know, the missing lady. Remember that news story 20 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:14.000 that sort of disappeared from the news cycle. Somebody's mom 21 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:17.680 went up and disappeared, And this guy allegedly drove somebody 22 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:21.319 involved in that situation somewhere at some time and you 23 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:27.120 start saying to yourself, no wonder everybody's a conspiracy theorist anymore. Anyways, 24 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:31.159 that's weird enough on top of every other piece of 25 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:36.280 weirdness this week, and hey, here we are still trying 26 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:41.680 to breathe. So I've continued on with the interesting program 27 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:43.959 a couple of quick announcements at the top of the 28 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:45.840 show before I turned it over to my cost to 29 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:46.760 see how he's doing. 30 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:47.719 One. 31 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.760 Maria Heller, who had the longest running you know, talk 32 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:55.200 show podcast I do believe in internet history if somebody 33 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:57.760 really wants to keep the history of this thing, because 34 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:02.879 she started twenty six years ago in the year two thousand, 35 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:06.280 which I think Lenosanak claims to have begun in two 36 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:09.240 thousand and two thousand and one as well. But anyway, 37 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:14.479 one of the longest running podcasts in podcast reality is 38 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.560 no more because Maria has decided to say enough is 39 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:23.159 enough after twenty six years. So no more hell and 40 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:26.639 high water from me and her, although I may bring 41 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:28.360 around the show at some point in a couple of 42 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:32.280 weeks just to explain, well, you know, why she stopped 43 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:35.159 and what the reason is and all that good stuff, 44 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.280 et cetera. Et cetera. But for those of you that 45 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.319 think I'm two left wing influence, you're gonna be happy 46 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.840 because now I no longer have that influence as a constant. 47 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.479 But anyway, no more hell and high Water, no more 48 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:51.240 Maria Heller and Maria dot Net will probably turn itself 49 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:56.280 over into her counseling business, and that'll be that. Anyway. 50 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:58.319 On top of that, what else do I have? Well, 51 00:02:58.719 --> 00:03:04.360 I did open up the fan supporter part of the 52 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:08.840 Speaker program, and I haven't put anything there yet. I 53 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.599 haven't asked anybody to join or anything like that. I 54 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.960 set up just a preliminary price of nine to ninety 55 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:18.360 nine because I no longer collect memberships on the site, 56 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:20.879 so this would allow me to sort of do that 57 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:25.439 where I provide direct content on Speaker and you want 58 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:27.680 to support, you go there to support, you get a 59 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.400 little bonus material, and guess what, you support the show. 60 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.919 So that's what's going to go on moving forward, because 61 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.960 you know, begging begathons for donations are not exactly successful 62 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:45.960 except among my usual friends, and frankly, we got like 63 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.599 zero interest from the outside this time. And I'm not 64 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:52.240 complaining because we were able to pay the bills, you know, 65 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.840 for the year. Uh, and I almost didn't think we 66 00:03:55.840 --> 00:04:00.439 were gonna make that, but honestly, uh, look, there there's 67 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.759 revenue that was lost. I need to regain it. So 68 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:04.960 it's going to be there. And yeah, for ten bucks 69 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:08.080 a month, you can support the show, make requests. I 70 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:12.280 will put archived stuff in there if you like, because 71 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:15.240 a lot of that stuff is no longer available online anywhere. 72 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.480 I still haven't determined what to do with the members 73 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.120 section that now has nobody paying a membership, but they 74 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:25.279 can still use it. I may just start to transfer 75 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:29.399 everything over there, or we might just start with fresh content, 76 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.600 and who knows, maybe just do a little rigged up 77 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:34.079 sign ups so you can have a sign up on 78 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:37.360 the website as well, along with the fans supporter section 79 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:40.120 on Speaker. I think that might be the wise thing 80 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.120 to do, since I don't have an accessible YouTube channel 81 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.439 officially or anything like that, so that might be the 82 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:50.199 way we go here. But anyway, Yeah, so from now 83 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.920 on on Speaker there will be a fans supported section, 84 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.639 but not until I really start to figure out what 85 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:59.040 it is you guys want there. You'll actually be able 86 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:02.360 to call the shots enough to tell me what it 87 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.519 is you want me to cover suggest guests. If I 88 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.120 can get them, I'll get them, you know, stuff like that, 89 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.959 and it'll be just for those that really support the show. 90 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:15.959 And who knows, maybe that's the format I need to 91 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:17.759 go to, where you know, you get the live stream 92 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.279 or if you want the podcast, you actually have to 93 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.000 be a supporter or the show. I don't know. I 94 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.439 haven't determined that yet, and I'm hoping you guys will 95 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.480 give me some feedback. So write to me either Chuck 96 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:32.639 at o'helly dot com or you can write to Blind 97 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.240 JFK researcher at gmail dot com. One way or the other, 98 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:38.959 I will get the messages. You can contact me on 99 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:42.879 X and all that good stuff. That's the best ways 100 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.839 to get a hold of me. I do look at 101 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.759 Facebook messages, but apparently I don't answer them on time. 102 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:52.560 Team sucks for delivering my messages. So I'll tell you, yeah, 103 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.800 X and the emails are the best ways to get 104 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:59.519 a hold of me. And that'll be that. I may 105 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:03.240 actually come up with a text only phone number soon 106 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:05.399 and I'll just give that out to you guys when 107 00:06:05.639 --> 00:06:07.439 I decide if that's going to be the way to go. 108 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.519 But I'm trying to make minimal investments because I want 109 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:16.920 to kickstart and animate the Rumble Channel as our primary 110 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:21.160 video platform in the near future, and we have the 111 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:23.319 program to do it, I just don't have the computer 112 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.319 that can properly handle it. And so I got to 113 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.439 get a refurbished computer and a few other little tidbits, 114 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.639 and then we will have the Rumble Channel as well 115 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.120 as the fan support section on speaker only for people 116 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:40.040 who decide to support the show, and ten bucks a 117 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:44.759 month I think is not unreasonable, And yeah, that's the 118 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.319 way that's going to work going forward. The website will 119 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.639 continue as for another year at least, and we'll see 120 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:54.079 where we go if I can continue doing this or not. 121 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.040 Still trying to recover from my injuries, etc. So those 122 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:01.279 are the two things going on, and I wanted to 123 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.879 let you know about them, and hopefully you guys will 124 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:06.360 give me some feedback and let me know what it 125 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:09.639 is we should be serving you with. You know, I 126 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:11.879 want to serve the people that really support the show. 127 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.519 Everybody else can listen along or whatever, follow along, but 128 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.240 you know, I want like the Special Supporters Club to 129 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:22.319 be happening, Like maybe we'll even create digital membership cards 130 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:26.399 or something and create a use for them, you know 131 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:30.079 what I mean. I have ideas about events and things 132 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.800 like that that we can do online and in person. 133 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:37.600 Not necessarily too many in person events, because hardly anybody 134 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.959 likes to leave their house anymore, but what the hell. 135 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.560 We can create stuff as we go, and I am 136 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:47.480 willing to listen to ideas and suggestions about what to 137 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.439 do going forward. Also, I'm going to do some more 138 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.120 short attention span DJ theaters on a regular basis, because 139 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.680 apparently people liked them in the replay form. They didn't 140 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:01.279 listen live, but they liked catching them on the station 141 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:04.800 accidentally when they just tuned in to the stream, which 142 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.000 runs twenty four to seven. I also have that online 143 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:10.160 radio station that's continuous for Apple and PC as well 144 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:14.160 as Android users. Anyway, all of that is brought to 145 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:19.639 you by guess what you, Mainly you who support the show. 146 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.240 Mike Swanson is one of those people. Me, Pete is 147 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:25.079 one of those people. Danny and Kelly one of those people. 148 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.480 You know our friend ed out West one of those people, 149 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.920 regular Joe. I don't know what happened, but sort of 150 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.879 he hasn't been in contact with me for a little bit, 151 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:36.840 but he's a supporter of the show. Jimmy James is 152 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:41.000 a supporter of the show. Okay, these are the people 153 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:46.200 that made things possible, but they could use a little 154 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.440 support from the rest of you who are listening. And 155 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:52.559 I know there are some left, so you know, just 156 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.120 saying you could chip in once so you can become 157 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:58.679 a supporter directly over at Speaker. I'm not even sure 158 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.960 how the sign up works honestly, just yet, but don't worry. 159 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:06.639 It's there, and there's always my cash app and missus 160 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:10.320 Oh's PayPal if you want to contribute to the well 161 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:13.039 being of the Performing Monkey you're listening to right now, 162 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.360 or you know, help us expand and maintain the network, 163 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.240 because there's still monthly bills and I try to be 164 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:23.320 as efficient with them as possible, but they're still there. 165 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:26.559 They're costs involved, and I'd like to be able to 166 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:29.720 do things even better on a higher level, more expansive, 167 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:32.080 but I'm not going to do that without the budget 168 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:34.200 to work with, and you guys are the ones who 169 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.279 will provide that or not. So there you have it. Plus, 170 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:40.879 I'm still doing the three hours every Monday when I 171 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:46.080 can show up on Mondays on AM Wake Up, and 172 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.200 they're calling that chuck Wagon Monday. Now. I don't know why. 173 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:51.399 I guess it's to separate me from the other guys 174 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:53.519 named Charles that are on the rest of the week. 175 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:58.080 That's okay, and I don't mind. And I go over 176 00:09:58.080 --> 00:09:59.840 there to have fun and read through the news and 177 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.559 so pick up on crazy stuff happening on the internet 178 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:06.159 in general. And there is never a shortage. So anyway, 179 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:08.759 all of that now put out of the way. Be 180 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.519 pete if you will. I need a drink. By the way, 181 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.960 I'm trying not to dry up my mouth on Mike 182 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:17.799 and I'm doing a bad job. Anyways, How are you doing, sir? 183 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.519 How was your week? And maybe I'll explain mine after 184 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.639 you explain yours. 185 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:26.159 We was, I don't know, pretty good. 186 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:29.960 We finally started getting some rain, which we've needed. We're about, 187 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.360 believe it or not, ten inches down for the year. 188 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:36.600 That's just what started of the fifth month. So well, 189 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.600 I was supposed to have all day rain tomorrow, looking 190 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:40.159 forward to it. 191 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:40.600 We needed. 192 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.399 It was so bad you'd walked through the grass in 193 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:45.519 the yard and it would crunch. I mean, it's really 194 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:49.120 been dry, so dry that snakes are wearing fleet collars. 195 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.240 But other than that, I don't know. 196 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:57.639 It's just a usual hectic busy helping a friend out 197 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:01.279 that had some health issues and trying to get stuff done. 198 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:04.480 But we finally got lights in the garage so I 199 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.639 can work at night on my work bench. They got 200 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:09.440 a few more things to do to get some outside 201 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:10.200 lights running. 202 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:13.120 But other than that, I got two questions. 203 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:18.200 Okay, Well, one was Maria Heller always so grumpy for 204 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:19.559 twenty six years? 205 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:20.559 Two? 206 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.679 No, I don't think someone number one? But what's two? 207 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:25.320 I'm sorry, I don't know. 208 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:26.279 I'm trying to find here. 209 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.039 Oh, we had mentioned this on another show, and it 210 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:30.840 came up while you were talking. I was looking through 211 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:32.960 my list of stuff that we had started to talk 212 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:36.240 about but we never finished. And that is they figured 213 00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:39.200 out the lost colony and exactly. 214 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:43.879 What happened to them. Oh right, yeah, yeah, kind of amazing. 215 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.320 We didn't get We didn't cover it last week. I 216 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:47.960 think it was the week before when I had mentioned 217 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:49.480 it and you said, yeah, you'd like to get into 218 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:52.200 that and find out what they found out. But they 219 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.279 weren't eaten by cannibals, and they didn't just suddenly disappear 220 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.080 they actually think they know exactly what happened, so if 221 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.679 you want, we can get into that later. Other than that, 222 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:06.519 we're watching the useful or useless Summer Football League, which 223 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.360 I am really not impressed. I mean, I would think 224 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:13.480 you'd be seeing better football from these guys. But hockey 225 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:17.120 playoffs are going on right now, NBA playoffs are going 226 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.720 on right now, So it's kind of busy in the 227 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:23.759 sports end of things. But other than that, I don't know, 228 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:27.480 just another typical hectic week well. 229 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:29.600 As far as sports go. Look, you know, it's always 230 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:34.960 weird because to my mind, there's never been enough football 231 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.759 players to populate even the NFL fully, you know what 232 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:43.120 I mean, enough of the up echelon guys. Now. I 233 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:45.320 know that sounds arrogant and all this stuff and how 234 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:47.080 dare you because you never had to do it, blah 235 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.360 blah blah, But you know, the truth is there's a 236 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.919 lot of NFL guys who are just hangers on that 237 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:56.720 just sort of exist. So I never thought of there 238 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.080 being such a you know, glut of talent, such a 239 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.639 you know, huge reserve of talent that we needed another 240 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.720 league to be populated, you know, I mean, look at 241 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:10.440 all the college teams there are, and the fact is, 242 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:13.399 you know, it siphons down or it's you know, shakes 243 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.799 down to just a few NFL teams relatively speaking. And 244 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.200 even those NFL teams are not necessarily populated by one 245 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:27.120 hundred percent you know, skilled personnel. So you know, to me, 246 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:30.799 it's like, why does everybody keep trying to make another league? 247 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.440 I mean, Vince McMahon tried it. There was the USFL 248 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:36.879 in the eighties. There were other attempts. It seems to me, 249 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.759 like when they unified the AFL and the NFL or 250 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:44.759 whatever it was, you know, when it became the championship 251 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:48.840 game and all that kind of stuff, before the days 252 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:51.200 of the Super Bowl. Even it seems to me as 253 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.960 though the evolution brought it together to just the right balance, 254 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:58.360 Like the equilibrium has been met regarding NFL talent. And 255 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.000 that's it because even like I say, among all those 256 00:14:01.039 --> 00:14:04.679 college teams, it narrows down to just that NFL and 257 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:07.399 then there's not like this huge group of left out 258 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.440 people that are still great. You know, when it comes 259 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:14.120 to when it used to come to baseball, there was 260 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.240 plenty of leftovers, so to speak. You know, there was 261 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:20.120 like independent leagues and there was plenty of minor league 262 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:25.759 systems that had decent players or entertaining players or et cetera, 263 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:27.720 et cetera. Now I don't know how it is right 264 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:30.200 now in the minor league system, but that used to 265 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:33.639 be really interesting in the twentieth century, especially like post 266 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.600 World War Two, when things really got you know, started 267 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:42.200 back up. As far as a say like basketball, you know, 268 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:46.759 you've got very small rosters there, and quite frankly, there 269 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.039 is a glot of talent there that ends up playing 270 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.240 in some of these like you know, weird short leagues, 271 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.279 two on two leagues and stuff like that, and you know, 272 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.919 you could probably replace a lot of basketball players. Although 273 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.120 I will say that year they tried to do the 274 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.159 replacement baseball players, that wasn't such a great, you know, 275 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:09.000 great event. Remember that when they were the replacement like 276 00:15:09.039 --> 00:15:12.720 the scam baseball players, You remember that. 277 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:14.399 It's strange when that went on. 278 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:16.960 We had there was a team in our league that 279 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.679 was in Hagerstown, Maryland and the year of the strike, 280 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:25.159 and they were a farm team for the Baltimore Orioles, right, 281 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:28.480 and it was amazing how much they drew that year. 282 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.960 They they actually set attendance records that drew better than 283 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:36.159 the than the Baltimore team when they were playing. 284 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:37.320 It was weird. 285 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.600 They really had a successful franchise up there. But you know, 286 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.720 the thing is with baseball, every major league team is 287 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:47.960 required to carry a certain number of farm teams through 288 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:49.679 the various minor leagues. 289 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:51.960 So you know, you do have that. 290 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:56.919 Kind of mandated you're gonna have this many teams, you 291 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:00.320 got to spread them between this many leagues, so it's 292 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.120 kind of a guarantee for guys. You don't have that 293 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.840 in football, you know, you don't have the farm team 294 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.960 system to bring players up. But I'm just not impressed 295 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:10.879 with this UFL. 296 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:12.200 It's I don't. 297 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:15.399 Know, it's but see some weird rules in there, like 298 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:20.159 if if you're yeah, if you're before what the fifty 299 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:24.080 yard line on fourth down, you can't punt. You know, 300 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:26.799 you got to you gotta make the play. So it's 301 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.200 I don't know, it's kind of strange. But every other 302 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:36.440 I guess every other sport, you've got farm teams. In baseball, 303 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:39.639 you've got farm teams. In hockey, you've got farm teams. 304 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:42.080 I think in basketball, well. 305 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.320 Basketball, wait a minute, basketball, I don't think they have 306 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:48.600 farm teams. But what you have is there are foreign leagues. 307 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.039 There's enough foreign leagues in basketball. 308 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:52.879 It is huge. 309 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:57.440 Sorry, Yeah, the foreign market Europe and over in Asia 310 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:00.639 basketball is huge. 311 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:03.399 But that's what I'm saying. It's like almost going on. Yeah, 312 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:08.160 the international right professionals are effectively almost like a farm 313 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:12.480 system for the NBA. It seems like, Uh, but the 314 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.400 other football leagues anywhere else where they do them. I mean, 315 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:17.440 they had the Canadian Football League. I don't even know 316 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:20.839 if that still exists. Uh, you know, they they tried 317 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:24.200 some sort of European Football League where like each country 318 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:25.640 had a league at one point. 319 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:29.279 Uh you had h yeah, good, You've got some football 320 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:32.119 teams over in Europe. I went to one or two 321 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.480 games when I was over in Switzerland, and it's it's 322 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:38.960 kind of a I don't know, it's like it's kind 323 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.079 of like UFL football. It's not all that spectacular. But yeah, 324 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:43.759 you had the World Football League at one time. She 325 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.799 had a team in Barcelona. Uh, you had a team 326 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:51.279 in Germany Frankfurt, and I don't know when that went 327 00:17:51.319 --> 00:17:54.079 by the wayside, but uh, but it just seems like 328 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:57.640 the NFL still still has teams or a game scheduled 329 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.200 over in and then like England, well. 330 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.839 They want to sell Mexico games, right, but they want 331 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:05.880 to sell the spectator portion of it to other countries. 332 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:09.000 But the truth is these other countries don't have the talent, 333 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.759 it seems like, to support a full professional league. So 334 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.039 what I'm saying is is that you know, it's a 335 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.599 very narrow skills set apparently that you either play in 336 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.799 the NFL or you ain't doing much. I mean, there 337 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:23.640 used to be these arena league teams. There's been various 338 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:27.160 leagues like that, right, I mean, yeah, sure there's still. 339 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.039 Some independence football. 340 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.960 Well no, it just to me that was as like 341 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:34.359 playing flag football in the park on Saturday, you know, 342 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:36.880 and you're looking about that caliber of sport. 343 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.559 Yeah. But see, that's my point is that there was 344 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:44.079 never enough talent to support and not enough like it 345 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:47.119 just it's not there, so, you know, and it's not 346 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.359 like soccer. Soccer is a worldwide thing, you know, football, 347 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:54.880 whatever point is, it's a worldwide thing. There's plenty of 348 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:59.720 talent to go around with that in multiple countries. You know. Again, 349 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.000 the not necessarily at the head of the pack. But 350 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:07.799 the point is that it's it's pretty widespread. Football. Is 351 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:10.680 this very narrow thing American football, it seems like to me. 352 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:13.680 So you know, and like I said, and I. 353 00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.440 Think this summer league, this league over the summer, to me, 354 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:18.279 it just takes away from it. I mean, there was 355 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.200 always the participation of the start a football season, right, 356 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.480 you know, that first college game and then shortly after 357 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:29.279 that first NFL game. So this league, I don't know, 358 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:31.960 it just it's like it it waters it down. 359 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:35.079 And it's like, okay, we still got football. Well, NFL's 360 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:36.720 get ready to crank up. Well, I've been watching it 361 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:40.400 for the past four months. It just takes away from it, right, 362 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:41.319 And I always think of. 363 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.440 It as the big problem of Bo Jackson and Neon 364 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:49.400 Dion Sanders, right, which is where you know, look these guys, 365 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:53.599 they had two careers, and the fact is that you know, 366 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:57.359 every football game is dangerous enough that their career can 367 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.559 end in a matter of seconds, and you know that 368 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:04.160 could end two careers, right, So to me, like I 369 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.920 wouldn't be trying to even like you know, you might 370 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.480 even train year round, go to like you know, winter 371 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.160 go play winter ball in Puerto Rico or something if 372 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.960 you're a baseball guy. But football players shouldn't do this. 373 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:20.640 Because all they're doing is risking their careers, which you 374 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:23.240 know are not typically the longest things in the world 375 00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:25.880 to begin with. I mean, et cetera, et cetera. So 376 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.319 it seems to me like, again, the equilibrium of the 377 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:33.119 entire activity boils down to the NFL and that's it. 378 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:34.799 You know. 379 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:41.359 So these other games have systems that support that talent 380 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:45.880 pool and produce that talent pool. Football doesn't. So to me, 381 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:48.319 it's always been like, why do they keep trying to, 382 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:51.599 you know, create this other And as you said, even 383 00:20:51.640 --> 00:20:55.519 if they succeeded, it would kind of suck anyway, because 384 00:20:55.920 --> 00:20:58.279 you know, then it wouldn't be the big anticipation for 385 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:02.000 the beginning of the NFL season, right, I mean, you know, 386 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:06.039 if you had a good USFL, it wouldn't be you'd 387 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:08.599 be having football all the time. It wouldn't be as special, 388 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:12.359 you know what I'm saying. It's almost like why you 389 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:15.160 know the fact that they've spread out the baseball season 390 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:19.440 so much that I mean it makes the games barely 391 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:23.240 relevant for half of the year, you know. I mean 392 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.960 football is not like that, thankfully, because they only play 393 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.680 once a week. But still, if you had, you know, 394 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:35.000 football year round, always and it was always highly you know, 395 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:38.480 populated by talented personnel. I don't know, I think it 396 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:42.279 would actually work against football. And you know, hockey's a 397 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:46.319 different thing of its own, you know, practically a sub 398 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:50.200 culture even though it's a mainstream sport, right, so you 399 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:54.039 know they have farm systems and there are people. 400 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:57.480 That are so enthusiastics. Yeah, I mean, it's a seasonal sport, 401 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.319 just like football. You think of hockey in the winter time, right, 402 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:03.200 think a football in the fall in the wintertime, right. 403 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.759 But even so, it's just I don't know. I keep 404 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:11.240 asking myself why they keep attempting this, you know. So anyway, 405 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:11.680 I don't. 406 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:12.480 Know there's enough. 407 00:22:13.039 --> 00:22:15.000 I guess they figured there's enough fans out there to 408 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:15.559 keep it going. 409 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:16.559 But I've never heard. 410 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:21.920 Of of a USFL or a UFL or a WFL 411 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.519 team that was really really successful. 412 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.839 So I don't know. I guess, you know, it fills the. 413 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.960 Niche for those people that got to have at twenty 414 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:30.519 four to seven. 415 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:35.359 Yeah, you know, but then again, look, I used to 416 00:22:35.559 --> 00:22:39.279 love to play Made on video game consoles, and that 417 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:42.519 was enough fun even when I wasn't watching football, you know, 418 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:46.240 like as a steady thing you can get your football 419 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:50.160 fixed many other ways, I think, especially with the way 420 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:56.480 video and everything is, you know, it would be who knows, 421 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:01.599 you know what I mean. So anyway, I'm just gonna 422 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:03.680 leave that one alone. It's just weird to me that 423 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.400 they keep trying to do this and it never works. 424 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:07.480 Uh. 425 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.599 And the funniest one was the uh the XFL. Remember 426 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:15.400 that Vince McMahon's uh, you know, NFL is bringing Oh, 427 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:19.039 we're gonna make it real extreme and it was just stupid. 428 00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:23.599 You know, I just don't get that again. 429 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:25.559 You know, the look at a look at a lot 430 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:28.240 of stuff that vincement Man's been behind and it ends 431 00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:29.319 up being stupid. 432 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:31.240 So you know, go figure. 433 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:35.039 But I just I don't I don't think the desire 434 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:38.039 I mean and true NFL fans really, I don't think 435 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:40.960 care about the UFL, or the WFL or the rest 436 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.920 of them. They're NFL fans. They've got their teams they 437 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:47.279 pull for. They don't need anything extra. And like I said, 438 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.680 it's nice to have that break and you have that 439 00:23:49.720 --> 00:23:52.599 anticipation of the season coming up. College football. I look 440 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.960 forward to college football. Well, to me, it's very entertaining. 441 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:03.240 Yeah, see there's falls coming, so yeah, there's ready to start, 442 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:04.039 right But. 443 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:08.119 There's your one you know, one way street of farm system, 444 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.400 right there is. And that's the only way I could 445 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.000 look at college football because I've never found it entertaining. 446 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.400 But that's your one way farm system, you know what 447 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.640 I mean, where they don't ever end up going back 448 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:22.759 to the miners. They either get cut or they don't, 449 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.039 you know. And when they get cut, they might get 450 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:28.640 a job somewhere else or they don't, so they never 451 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:30.480 go back to the farm league. You know, they don't 452 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.359 go back to college ball usually. Uh, at least I've 453 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.000 never heard of it, you know what I'm saying. With 454 00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.279 the other things, Listen, an NBA player could be an 455 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.519 NBA player, he's not doing so good, then he goes 456 00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.759 to Italy or wherever it plays for a little while 457 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.920 and then comes back, you know what I'm saying. But 458 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.039 and baseball guys, they go to the miners, they come up. 459 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:52.880 I mean, there's some guys that you know, spend their 460 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.000 life in a rotation between you know, Triple A, Double 461 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:00.400 A and the big league team you know occasionally and 462 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:01.119 you can make a living. 463 00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:01.559 I guess the. 464 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:03.680 Closest thing to a I ain't to say but I 465 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.079 guess the closest thing to a farm system for the 466 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:09.519 for the NBA is the w NBA since they've been 467 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:12.880 flipping a bill for them since they're you know inception. Yeah, 468 00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.880 but again another you know, you talk about pouring money 469 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.119 down a drain, just look at the w n B 470 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.680 A and and some money they're breaking in what they 471 00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:24.039 lose forty dollars a year, see another years. 472 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.640 Another one way street, which is hilarious, but it's all 473 00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:30.400 money going down the street instead of you know, talent, right, 474 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:33.160 and it's only going one way. You know what's really 475 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.440 funny about that too is I've gotten more into the 476 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.240 sports cards and I'm trying to, you know, learn about stuff. 477 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.200 And you do know there's w NBA sports cards, right 478 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:50.079 of course only one player sells yeah cards of course, 479 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.519 you know it's like show Hao Tani at this point, which, 480 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.359 by the way, show Hao Tani. If you look at 481 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.200 like online auctions, there's people that literally have run four 482 00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.720 hour auctions selling nothing but show hey o Tani baseball 483 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:08.799 cards in ten second auctions that you have ten seconds 484 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:11.759 to bid on them, and they will literally do that 485 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.079 for five hours. There's so many cards of the guy 486 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:18.440 and they're in such high demand and it's amazing, But 487 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.079 she doesn't sell like that. But she's literally like the 488 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:24.680 only one that really sells these Like card dealers get 489 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:29.599 frustrated because they get talked into w NBA cards and. 490 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.519 Yeah, I'll give you, I'll give you my Angel Reache 491 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.839 rookie card for your for your Caitlyn Clark, I forget it. 492 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:40.480 Yeah right, nobody wants the other ones. I'm just saying. 493 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.400 It's like, and that's what I'm observing, is the only 494 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:46.319 thing selling for more than a dollar is Caitlyn Clark. 495 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:48.920 And yeah, another weird. 496 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:51.359 Though you look at yeah, look at the impact that 497 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.160 she had though when she went from college to to 498 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:58.079 pros I mean it was I don't think I've seen 499 00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:01.799 I don't think I've seen that much of an impact 500 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:04.200 in a lot of years of a player going from 501 00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:08.799 college to professional sport, regardless of what the sport is, 502 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.359 that made the impact that she did. I mean, she 503 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.440 really she was the one thing to bring people into 504 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.480 the coliseums to see the games. You know, my team, 505 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.440 we've been pulling for him for five years and they've 506 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.799 lost every year they've had a you know, total was 507 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.440 a losing record. But Caitlin Clark's coming, I'm going hey, 508 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:26.880 you know. 509 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.079 Speaking of news stories, they just sort of suddenly disappeared, 510 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.759 but they were a moment of outrage, you know, for 511 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.000 for a quick hot second in the news cycles. I 512 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:39.279 don't remember what actually happened with the dildos being thrown 513 00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:42.839 onto the courts at WNBA games. I know it was 514 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.920 a thing for a while and then they were like 515 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.559 threatening to prosecute people for doing it, and then it 516 00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.119 just sort of went away. Yeah, what happened. 517 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:55.839 There was wasn't that snafu over pay or something that 518 00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:57.960 they felt like they should be paid more because they're 519 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.720 professional athletes, and and so they started, you know, you 520 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.440 saw some comments in the news, and then people just finally. 521 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.000 Kind of got tired of it and said, look, you know, 522 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.359 it's it's the NBA. 523 00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.839 What do you expect to get paid for Your whole 524 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.440 league is being subsidized by the NBA. If it wasn't 525 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.480 for the NBA paying the money, you guys wouldn't even 526 00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:18.440 be playing. 527 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.400 So you know, shut up and be thankful. Well, yeah, 528 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:22.480 that one went away quick. 529 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:25.200 It did go away quick. And the whole thing really 530 00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.759 started with those with the soccer team right with the 531 00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.519 women's like you know, world soccer team, the US team, right, 532 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:36.480 and they were like saying, yeah, right, and she was saying, oh, 533 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.880 we should be paid more, you know, just like the men. 534 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.799 And they're going, yeah, you don't draw the crowds, so no. 535 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.640 And then they did pay them, you know, some kind 536 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:49.440 of upscale wage. And then the next thing you knew 537 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.839 is WNBA was kind of going, well, you know, maybe 538 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.279 we should do the same thing. And then I don't know, 539 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:58.400 fans responded with dildo's on the court. I took it. 540 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.960 The funny thing about the US women's soccer team was they, 541 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.359 you know, Megan Rappnou and a few other ones started 542 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.680 making comments about money. Yeah, and it's like, you know, well, 543 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.480 we should be paid as much as the guys. And 544 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.440 the funny thing was is when they went through contract negotiations, 545 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.640 they had the opportunity to have a structured contract like 546 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:24.160 the guys, but no, they chose a different contract structure. 547 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:27.279 So they shot themselves in the foot from the beginning. 548 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.599 And when it hit the news, a lot of these 549 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.279 sports commentators were pointing out, you know, these women are 550 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:36.079 complaining now, but they had the opportunity when they got 551 00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.559 the original contracts written up to do it the same 552 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.079 way and base their pay structure the same way as 553 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.400 the guys, and they didn't, They specifically did. 554 00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:45.200 Not want to do that. 555 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.759 Now they find out they're getting short changed according to them, 556 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:50.960 and they want to change in the middle of the deal. 557 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:52.640 What the contract was. 558 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.440 I mean, it just they shot themselves in the foot 559 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.640 and then they realized they screwed themselves, and then that's 560 00:29:58.680 --> 00:29:59.680 what made the news. 561 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.440 It's ridiculous. But you know, that. 562 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:05.720 Team that Megan Rappano is on played a high school 563 00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.279 team and lost something like eleven to one. 564 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.839 These were high school junior or high or high. 565 00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:18.079 School guys that they played against, and the teenagers smoked them, 566 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:21.119 so they kind of didn't really have bragging rights on 567 00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.000 that one. Well, just be thankful for what you got 568 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:25.759 and shut up. 569 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.920 And here's the thing. People have to realize this above 570 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:36.319 all else. Sports is entertainment, even if it isn't sports 571 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.839 entertainment like the WWE. Okay, it's entertainment. So there are 572 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.880 various elements that play here. Sure, it's a sport, it's 573 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:48.160 a skill, it's a discipline, blah blah blah, but it's 574 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:53.119 also a entertainment entity. And here's the one thing you 575 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.680 can guarantee in entertainment is that there is no rhyme 576 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:03.599 or reason or egalitarian schedule that anybody is on in 577 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.359 the entertainment business. I mean, how do you not know that? 578 00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.519 You know, in this world there are people that are 579 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.079 gonna be overpaid and there are people that are gonna 580 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:19.000 be underpaid, and it's got zero to do with their skill. 581 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:21.920 It's got zero to do with what they're worth as 582 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.680 human beings. It is just the nature of the beast. 583 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:27.839 And most of the time, you know what it boils 584 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.720 down to exactly what you just talked about, Either you 585 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:34.720 got a good pin, a good contract, or a bad one. 586 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.160 And half the time it's almost impossible to know until 587 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.920 guess what, it's too late. And that's just the reality. 588 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.000 We went through that with Well, we saw that perfect 589 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.079 example of that back during the Colin Kaepernick episodes when 590 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.519 he was with the forty nine ers and you know, 591 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:55.240 he was under contract, he was going at the end 592 00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.119 of the season, he was going to become a free agent. Okay, well, 593 00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:03.680 he decided to quit his contract and go free agent. 594 00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:09.119 He was he had a guaranteed position and money, he 595 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.240 decided to nullify that, thinking that out on the free 596 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.640 market he could bring in more money. 597 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.799 Well, right before he decides to do that is. 598 00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:22.079 When he started pulling his stunts of kneeling during the 599 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:28.200 national anthem and wearing pig socks, you know, to practice 600 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.119 and stuff like that. And people started seeing it and 601 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.519 he started causing problems, and the forty nine ers said, 602 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.440 you want to go and play free agency, go for it, Bud, 603 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:39.160 You're released. 604 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:40.880 And then he found out. 605 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:43.359 He couldn't draw the money because he was creating problems, 606 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:45.319 and team owners didn't want to have to deal with 607 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.960 the crap. You know, they got enough problems on our hands. 608 00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:51.400 Last thing they needed. Somebody's getting headlines every weekend because 609 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.640 they want to call the NFL racist. And I'm sitting 610 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:57.880 here looking at the percentage of black players in the 611 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.880 NFL and the money that they're making, and I'm thinking, 612 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:06.440 what other job opportunity do you have where the majority 613 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.480 of players are of a race that now wants to 614 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:11.079 say they're. 615 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.960 Being discriminated against. And it made no sense, and it 616 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.039 made no sense to the fans, it made no sense 617 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.559 to the owners, and Colin Kaepernick just shot himself in 618 00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.079 the foot over that one. She had the money. 619 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.599 Here's the argument, and he if he hadn't. 620 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.960 Done what he did, even if he was traded, he 621 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.519 still would have brought in the money, but he wanted 622 00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:34.559 to spit in the system's face and it ended up 623 00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.880 costing him. But he's you know, it's a perfect example 624 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.680 of looking a gift horse in the mouth. 625 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.039 Well, I look, I don't know about looking a gift 626 00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:43.720 horse in the mouth at all. I don't even want 627 00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.559 to judge that. Here's what I understand is that if 628 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.440 he was good enough, they would have figured out a 629 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.599 way to make a spot for him somewhere. That's what 630 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:55.279 I figure. 631 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:57.960 If he was You're right, if he was good enough, 632 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.759 he wouldn't have to worry about being traded because he 633 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.119 would have pulled in the money no. 634 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:02.839 Matter who got him. 635 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:06.480 Now. But he was just a mediocre player that didn't 636 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:08.920 have the stats to back it up. Right, So being 637 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.960 me thought, well, I'll go free agency and somebody will 638 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.599 pick me up. And it's like, dude, I got three 639 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.880 quarterbacks on my roster right now with better stats than you. 640 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:19.519 And I've got to cut one of them. Why would 641 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:20.000 I want you? 642 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.239 Well, But that's the thing is that even with right. Look, 643 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.639 if you removed his politics, they might put up with 644 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:31.960 him because he has the potential to eventually be better, right, 645 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.719 And so somebody might do that because that might be better 646 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.960 than something they know is broke down that they already have. 647 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.159 So he might have had a shot at being a 648 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:42.880 backup somewhere. But he didn't have the clout or the 649 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:48.199 record to justify the aggravation. And it's just that simple. See, 650 00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:51.360 that's a miscalculation on his part. I don't even want 651 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.519 to get into whether he was justified or had a 652 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.480 right to feel or I don't care, because here's the 653 00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.440 bottom line. Once again, it's you know, and people would oh, 654 00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:04.159 that's racist, but no, I think racist or not. If 655 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.599 he had the skill, they would have worked it out, 656 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.119 you know, bring him on the team, tell him to 657 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:13.199 shut up. You know, listen, here's part of your new contract, chief, 658 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:17.840 shut the hell up. Okay, there's part of our new contract. 659 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:18.960 One percent on that. 660 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.559 So I'll give you a good example of an organization 661 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:25.920 they shot themselves in the foot. Look at this last 662 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.440 playoff season. The Carolina Panthers two years ago had three 663 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:35.400 quarterbacks that all ended up playing for playoff teams and 664 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.320 they got rid of them for a draft pick that 665 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:43.039 turned out to be lackluster and mediocre if you could 666 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.239 even consider he was as good as mediocre. And they 667 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.960 got rid of these guys instead of working them through 668 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.159 the system knowing that they had potential. And hell, one 669 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.920 of them ends up playing into them Super Bowl. We 670 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.280 had the guy two years ago and they cut him. 671 00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.159 It just makes I don't know, and don't get me started. 672 00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.000 And and that's the thing. 673 00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:05.280 Look, you roll the dice when it comes to sports. 674 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.280 I mean I think back to you know, uh, Nolan Ryan, 675 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:11.760 you know, part of the sixty nine Mets, but he 676 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.800 had an in He was inconsistent, believe it or not, 677 00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:18.280 as a young player, as a young pitcher. So you know, 678 00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.440 he's traded away with like six other guys for one 679 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:26.760 slugger and like two like utility players or something. And 680 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.679 seven guys get traded right in order for the Mets 681 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.840 to pick up one slugger, so because they thought that 682 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:35.679 would improve the team. And he wasn't doing them that 683 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.360 much good because he was a. 684 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.079 Reliever right up somebody. 685 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.960 Yeah, but you brought up somebody that had a mouth 686 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:46.880 on him and was controversial, but he made his money 687 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:48.599 because he could put. 688 00:36:48.440 --> 00:36:50.639 Up or shut up. And that was Deon Sanders. 689 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:51.280 That's the thing. 690 00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:52.679 A lot of people that didn't. 691 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.159 Like Deon Sanders, but when it came down to play 692 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.480 in the game, Deon Sanders was the guy you wanted 693 00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.199 out there to catch that ball, regardless of his politics, 694 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.119 regardless of the things that he would say, regardless of 695 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:09.760 the stuff that came up. Neon Dion earned his money 696 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.400 because he had the talent. Right now, he leaves and 697 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:18.679 becomes a coach at Colorado because his son was quarterback 698 00:37:18.920 --> 00:37:22.599 at Colorado, and he ticked off a lot of people 699 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.840 in Colorado because it seems like, you know, his son 700 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.920 didn't turn out to be the you know, the savior 701 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:32.159 of the NFL quarterback says, as everybody was making him 702 00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:34.360 out to be. And a lot of people are now saying, well, 703 00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:36.039 he wouldn't have got the exposure and he wouldn't have 704 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.679 got this if it hadn't been from Deon Sanders becoming coach. 705 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:40.599 And I was a huge. 706 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.840 Colorado Buffalo's fan. I got hooked on them when we 707 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.079 lived out in Colorado Springs. But he ticked off a 708 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.199 lot of people in that college organization just from the 709 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.079 way that you know, he was show voting and pushing 710 00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.079 his son, and then his son turns out to kind 711 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.519 of flop his first year playing pro. So, you know, 712 00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:03.960 but that was somebody who created controversy. But when it 713 00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:08.159 came down to it, Demand had talent. Yeah, but that's 714 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.800 the sorting about Dean Sanders. But if Demand could play 715 00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:13.119 football exactly. 716 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.079 But my other point here, though, is that you know, 717 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:19.159 the potential if somebody is not always realized, like you 718 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.519 said with the quarterbacks they traded away and this, and that, 719 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.719 it's just a matter of Listen, some people develop under 720 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.519 the pressure of you know, stumbling at first, and some 721 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.159 people don't. You know, I can recall a lot of 722 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:34.320 number one draft picks in baseball that were supposed to 723 00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.400 be the second coming of everything. And you know what, 724 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.079 you probably couldn't even name these guys who you know, 725 00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.679 I knew as again collecting baseball cards, you know it. 726 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.599 I mean I would open up a pack of baseball 727 00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:47.800 cards and I could sell a rookie card for one 728 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.719 hundred dollars, a current year rookie card in the nineties, 729 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.920 you know, because these guys were thought to be such, 730 00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:56.599 you know, great players. I'll give you two names that 731 00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.320 you probably don't even recognize at this point. Todd Zial 732 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.519 and Todd Van Poppole, the two Todds in ninety and 733 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:07.320 ninety one, and Todd Ziel was a catcher and Todd 734 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.320 Van Poppole was a pitcher, and they were both supposed 735 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.880 to be these superior, you know athletes. I mean, nothing 736 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.360 like we see with show hey Otani, but they for 737 00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:19.400 their time period, they were going to be the next 738 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.639 you know, superstars Hall of Famers poof Does anybody know 739 00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:28.039 who they are? You know what I'm saying. I mean, 740 00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.440 their careers weren't even long, so you know, and it happens, 741 00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:33.280 and Nolan Ryan think about it. There's a guy who 742 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.679 is known for consistency, longevity, having pitched complete games. The 743 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.920 guy would pitch, you know, entire games, not like they 744 00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.159 do today, six innings and crap. The guy go pitches 745 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.320 all the way into his forties, right with a bad 746 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.599 back and does eight nine innings and complete games, you know, 747 00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.320 through seven no hitters, and some of them were later 748 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.920 in his career. But at first they disregarded him because 749 00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:59.599 he was a little wild. They didn't want to work 750 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.639 him out, and the Mets just do stuff like that, 751 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.000 but a lot of these other teams did it too. Anyway, 752 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.480 there's a narrow talent for these things to be the 753 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.519 superior athlete. And Deon Sanders was not a bad baseball 754 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.360 player either, you know, Oh. 755 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:18.440 He he was good. 756 00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.639 Well, look at Michael Jordan. He tried baseball and failed miserably. 757 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:24.760 Yeah, he was the goat and everything else. And then 758 00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.280 he was gonna like, hey, I'll gonna stop playing basketball 759 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.880 since I'm so great at everything, I'm gonna go play baseball. 760 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.840 And the White Sox said, yeah, Michael, sorry, because he 761 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:36.519 just wasn't that good. 762 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:38.079 You know. 763 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:39.760 And he was good in high school. 764 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:42.440 No, no, fine, high school is one thing. But you 765 00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.599 know how many high school pitchers are gonna throw one 766 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.719 hundred miles an hour and literally be able to shave, 767 00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:51.920 you know, hair off your face. There's a lot of 768 00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.880 major league pitchers that can do that, you know what 769 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:54.239 I mean. 770 00:40:55.840 --> 00:40:58.440 Yeah, but I've seen some high school players here that 771 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.440 very impressive. Even take it. 772 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.559 Well, But that's the thing is sometimes these kids, you know, 773 00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.239 because they've been you know, pushed a little too fast, 774 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.719 a little too hard. I mean when when I was 775 00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:14.760 playing as a kid, we weren't even allowed to slide 776 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.800 step as pictures, you know, the slide that you do 777 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:21.000 to like wind up. They didn't want us to really 778 00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.880 load up our arms as kids. Uh. You know, I 779 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.079 understand that that kind of thing has changed now and 780 00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:28.960 some of these kids blow out their arms. By the 781 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.800 time they're twenty two, it's over. The arm's gone. You know. 782 00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:35.400 Even if they were phenomenal at a certain point, they 783 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.639 peaked too early in boom, they blow it up, you know. 784 00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:41.119 I mean, there's a reason why Tommy John surgery is 785 00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.440 a thing, you know what I mean. 786 00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:48.199 But anyway, what my other question wanted? 787 00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.559 Oh oh, listen, but before we go in anything else, though, 788 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.480 we've been talking a while and Jimmy James has been 789 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:54.440 on hold, so I do want to get to him. 790 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.119 And I meant to segue into bringing him on earlier, 791 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.440 but we were engaged here, so I I do want 792 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:01.360 to get them on. Go ahead. 793 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.840 The question I had of the two was this new 794 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.239 software that you've got, does it work on Linux? 795 00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:11.159 Uh? 796 00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:12.239 Yeah, it should. 797 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:14.639 I have to be Microsoft, No, No it should. 798 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.880 No, it's it should not have a problem on Linux. 799 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:22.760 The problem is that it's a matter of capacity. So 800 00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:25.480 you know, you have to have a certain amount of 801 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.360 processing power and speed. So if you look up the 802 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.239 you know, the specs on it. Also they tell you 803 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.239 don't run anything else, which is impossible for me. They 804 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.480 tell you not to run like pretty much anything else 805 00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:41.840 while you're running this on a computer, because it obviously 806 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.679 takes up a lot of resources. Uh that's the advice. 807 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:47.880 Now I've tried to run it on my computer. It 808 00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:51.559 runs like crap and doesn't really run, so, you know. 809 00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.960 And and the advice basically that came back from the 810 00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:59.599 tech people is Windows eleven. Uh you know, but a 811 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.079 year go I didn't I wouldn't have been told that, 812 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.360 you know what I mean, It would have worked on 813 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.000 Windows ten, which is why I'm pissed. But yeah, so 814 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.719 I need something that can load Windows eleven. And as 815 00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:12.559 I told you, even though you mentioned there might be 816 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:16.559 some sort of workaround, you know, I went to go 817 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.719 try and see. You know, can I try Windows eleven 818 00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:19.360 on my computer? 819 00:43:19.480 --> 00:43:19.559 No? 820 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.840 I can't, it says, no, I don't have the Uh 821 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:26.639 you know again, I don't have the power to do so. 822 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:28.559 So what you need is just something that's more powerful. 823 00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:34.000 And even certain Apple machines are no good now, but 824 00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:36.480 Apple's a different animal when it comes to this, you 825 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:42.119 know what I mean? No, No, So I need either 826 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.840 a powerful laptop which I can plug to a larger 827 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.920 screen that way I can see it, you know, and 828 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.559 a new computer just to be able to run everything else. 829 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.239 Or I need a very powerful computer. And you know, 830 00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.639 I forget how many how powerful the drives have to be, 831 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.920 or how powerful the memory and the speed has to 832 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:04.639 be on the computer. It's got to be something that is, 833 00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.239 you know, higher class as far as power and speed. 834 00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.239 And my refurbished machine that I bought. How many years 835 00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.280 ago did I buy the new one? Do you remember? 836 00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:16.960 Now? 837 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.039 Okay, I've been trying to keep up when I bought 838 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.119 this one. I've got the same problem. I try to 839 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.679 go to eleven, it tells me where your processor isn't 840 00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:24.280 fast enough? 841 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.679 Yeah, same thing. So you know, I just I need 842 00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.440 to get something with a faster processor and Windows eleven 843 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.880 on board, which I can do with a refurbished computer 844 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.320 again rebuilt. You know, they can always add stuff and 845 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:39.760 everything else, but it's still, you know, it's the same problem. 846 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.440 A few hundred more dollars to get a new one. 847 00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.239 But you know, I will definitely settle for going to 848 00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.000 and Besides that, I can go to a local shop 849 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.719 picking up myself, and I've got somebody who if there's 850 00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:52.159 something wrong with it or it gives me a problem, 851 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.559 I know where I can bring it, you know, and 852 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.400 if it's within a certain amount of time, he'll repair 853 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:00.960 it or deal with it and take off the responsibility 854 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:02.800 for it if it's you know, within the first couple 855 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.840 of months, which I appreciate. And also it's a local, 856 00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.039 it's a local guy. I'd rather do that. You can't 857 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:12.199 buy these off of the uh, you know, the the 858 00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:15.199 electronics section at Walmart either something that's strong enough. If 859 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.159 you notice, all that stuff is stripped down. That's why 860 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.440 it's a little cheaper at Walmart and best Buy or 861 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.199 whatever is still out there where you can still have 862 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.440 an electronic section in a place or it's an electronics 863 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:29.360 store of sorts. Most of that stuff is stripped down 864 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.360 for the consumer and meant to be there so you know, 865 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:36.119 they can watch Netflix basically they can stream video to themselves, 866 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:42.079 but to actually communicate and simultaneously stream, you know, upload 867 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:47.119 and download in real time, yeah, you need you need stronger, 868 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.360 more efficient processors, and you actually better off with the 869 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:54.440 like the DA You know, the what do you call it, 870 00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:58.280 the SD card type drive instead of the old standard 871 00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:02.199 disk drive as well. But whatever, I'm not I'm not 872 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.760 looking to choose as a beggar here anyways. At some 873 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.719 point that's got to get done. So I want to 874 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:09.760 bring on Jimmy James. 875 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:13.719 If you don't mind you ready, yeah, yeah, And of. 876 00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.039 Course anybody else can join in. Call us if you 877 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.239 want three one nine five two seven five zero one six, 878 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.159 that's the number to join us. It's about let's see 879 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.519 eight forty seven as I'm reading the clock here in 880 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.400 the Eastern time zone of what we used to call 881 00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.880 America and all that, so you know, that's where we're at. 882 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.320 That's what was, That's what is, Like I said at 883 00:46:33.360 --> 00:46:38.559 the beginning of the show, and this will be Jimmy James, 884 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.320 and I got a dog barking in the background. My apologies, 885 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.559 but here's Jimmy James. How you doing. 886 00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:47.840 Doing good here? 887 00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.280 Check excellent? 888 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.880 Jimmy James, the journalist. 889 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.880 The journalist. All right, what do you got for me? 890 00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.559 Journalist Jimmy James. 891 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.800 Hey, I got your package. 892 00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.400 Oh great, I am so happy about that because we 893 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.559 have had stuff lost that I've sent to you and 894 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:11.679 I swear to you I've sent your stuff and it's 895 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:16.079 just disappeared. One package was returned to me, but most 896 00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:18.159 of them do not make it anywhere. They just go 897 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.880 into the void. So I'm glad you got it. Was 898 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:21.679 it in one piece? 899 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:25.400 Yeah? 900 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.440 Thank you? By the way, Oh excellent, Uh I got 901 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.960 oh way to go man, you know it? Jared Goff JFK. 902 00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.360 Why I even got an Ocelie baseball card? 903 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.480 That's right. I tried to give you a little bit 904 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.079 of everything in there that I thought you would, you know, 905 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:47.000 want to keep. 906 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.800 Yeah, you do good, Chuck, you do good. 907 00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:55.119 Thanks. 908 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.320 Why Chuck is the only podcaster that I trust. 909 00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:03.840 Well, because you know, I'm honest at least, you know, 910 00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:06.840 I could make mistakes. I could be stupid maybe, but 911 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.719 I'm an honest guy, and I mean, well you know 912 00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.880 that much, right, I know? 913 00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:20.079 Chuck is exactly Chuck's got on it. He is what 914 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.360 he says that, he says, what he is. He's a 915 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:23.840 good man. 916 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.960 Well, thank you, Jimmy. I'm glad you're feeling that way tonight. 917 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.280 So I'm glad, and I'm also very very happy the 918 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.480 package made it to you. So that that makes me 919 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.639 feel real good because I was starting to worry. Man, 920 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.400 I'm like, you know, I hope this doesn't get lost again, 921 00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:42.519 because you know, if I was you, i'd start taking 922 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:44.760 Maybe Chuck just says he sends me stuff and he 923 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:48.760 doesn't really send it, you know. But but you know 924 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.480 that's not true. I mean it's just weird. 925 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:58.639 Yeah, there has been stories in the papers about the 926 00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:03.039 post office in my area. I mean people are people 927 00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:09.360 were stealing stuff. I mean they got issues. In fact, 928 00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:12.599 now I think about it, I believe I recall Aaron 929 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:17.000 mentioning that someone stole his mail too. Was that correct? 930 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.840 Yeah? At one point he you know, some mail was stolen, 931 00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.000 he thought, and then they stole a whole bank of 932 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.159 those mailboxes. Remember there was like I don't know if 933 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.559 it was like at the end of a duel development 934 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.960 or if I remember. 935 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:36.800 Yeah, I'm curious of one that happened, if by any chance, 936 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:41.880 it was August to twenty four, because if so, I 937 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:44.880 could help him. It turns out I know who did this. 938 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.719 He may even recognize the names, and then he would 939 00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.280 know who did this if he does. 940 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.400 Recognize the names. 941 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.840 No kidding, Well, I should explain it. 942 00:49:56.840 --> 00:49:58.360 You should write an email. 943 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:03.079 Perhaps I should well, I should explain this bit the 944 00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:07.400 beginning in the ending is that there's two characters that 945 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.159 I have their names and information right in his area. 946 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:19.679 And I mean, if he recognizes these names, guess what 947 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.039 he would get the unusual pleasure of knowing who screwed 948 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:23.480 him over. 949 00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.239 Wow. Well, I would send him an email and you know, 950 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:33.880 let him know, because that would be rather fascinating. Because 951 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.119 I don't remember what happened with that story. It was 952 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.599 sort of like it just sort of happened for a 953 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.840 little bit. And you know what's funny is that that 954 00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.440 sort of happened in a wave I would say, like 955 00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:47.039 during the pandemic time, and then for a couple of 956 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:51.480 years afterwards, there were like occurrences all over the country 957 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.400 of like male people getting fired for doing weird stuff 958 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.880 with the male I don't know if you remember reading 959 00:50:57.920 --> 00:50:59.960 about that, but it just seemed to start happening like 960 00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:05.119 a lot right after you know, the pandemic happened. Am 961 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:05.679 I crazy? 962 00:51:06.039 --> 00:51:12.360 Is that now it's going on the problems that the 963 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:18.440 post Office can't keep employees. I I gave my vehicle 964 00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:21.320 workdown from the same dude the works on the post 965 00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.639 office vehicles. He said that they've literally gone through one 966 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:27.440 hundred people this year so far. They can't keep the 967 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:28.360 full employed. 968 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:30.679 Wow. 969 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.920 Something else that is to say, uh uh. 970 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.679 Well, uh. 971 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:44.079 Sorry, I didn't mean to throw you off Yeah, I 972 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.039 didn't mean to throw you off track. But it's just 973 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:48.920 I was thinking of a time period where it really 974 00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:49.599 starting out. 975 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.400 Oh wait, let me get this off my home before 976 00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:55.480 it disappears again. 977 00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:56.599 Yeah. 978 00:51:56.639 --> 00:52:00.480 I also managed to find the origin point. See that 979 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.360 was the endpoint of the shoot. But these people, what 980 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.719 they did is they took the information off the black market, 981 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:14.159 and I figured out how it got there too. The idiot. 982 00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:19.159 There's a perfume bureaucrat that clearly uses his work computer 983 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.039 to view pornographic materials and got viruses. 984 00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:25.199 Ah, what a jerk. 985 00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.719 So he's got like those kind of tropes. He's got 986 00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.760 like those trojan horses that steal information. Right, So you know, 987 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:36.639 some bureaucrats got a whole list information on people's personal 988 00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:40.079 stuff and then somebody can hijack it with a virus 989 00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:42.159 in their computer, right, that kind of thing. 990 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:54.800 Yeah, someone definitely did, And jeez, chuck, I I don't know. 991 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.599 I guess I'm just a lot of people person. I 992 00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:05.159 of course tried to talk this fella, and my god, 993 00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.000 is he a belligerent, mouthy little man. 994 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.800 Oh boy, I am starting to imagine what you're talking 995 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.079 about here. I guess there's links to that personal situation 996 00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.599 that you were talking to me about, uh in emails 997 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:22.880 not too long ago too. 998 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:33.119 Huh yes, okay, yeah, it's all connected. It's uh but 999 00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:39.280 I figured out what happened. I've taken actions uh one 1000 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:44.440 trice to uh catch any damn check of using my 1001 00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.679 social Security number. They're going to go straight to prison 1002 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:50.800 and I'll get the money, is what my understanding. 1003 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:57.760 Good, So you got some kind of like, well, yeah, 1004 00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:00.719 I got just got called the social Security to people 1005 00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.639 and some other people and that that know that. 1006 00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:12.880 Someone's munkying around. Interesting fact, bazirely, the FTC, the Federal 1007 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:17.280 Trade Commission, they are the ones who go after people 1008 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.280 who steal people's social Security numbers. Interesting fact that I 1009 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:22.239 did not realize. 1010 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.760 Yeah, yeah, well that links to that whole discussion I 1011 00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:29.159 had on the show many times about how like your 1012 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.519 social Security number is a monetized commodity, and you know 1013 00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.239 and all that it's true. That's why the Federal Trade 1014 00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:41.280 Commission is involved with it, because it's their domain. Yeah, 1015 00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:46.400 so that makes perfect sense to me. But I've never 1016 00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.639 been involved in a situation where somebody tried to steal 1017 00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.880 my identity like that. I've had people clone me online 1018 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:55.840 and stuff like that, but they never get very far 1019 00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.400 because there's just I don't have, you know, I don't 1020 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.559 really have a bank account. I don't have you know 1021 00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:07.320 what I mean. So there's nothing to steal, is what 1022 00:55:07.440 --> 00:55:10.239 it comes down to. And my Social Security number is 1023 00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.440 not worth much. I mean, my first wife made sure 1024 00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:18.239 of that many years ago. So you know what I'm saying, Like, 1025 00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.960 I'm not worth anything for somebody to steal the identity, 1026 00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:26.079 but other people might have, you know, I don't know assets. 1027 00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:36.199 I guess you know what I'm saying. Okay, we might 1028 00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.280 have lost Jimmy. I don't know. It sounds like he's 1029 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:43.280 still there. I'll say, I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy, 1030 00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:44.920 if you can still hear me, I'm just gonna put 1031 00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:48.119 you on hold and we'll come back you at some point. 1032 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:50.880 But we got dead air. You heard that, right, b 1033 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:52.639 Pete where there was just a little bit of static 1034 00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:53.719 and we couldn't really hear them. 1035 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:55.719 Yeah. 1036 00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:59.199 Yeah, So I'll come back to Jimmy. But look, anybody 1037 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:02.559 else who wants to jump in in the meantime, Uh, 1038 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.239 three one nine five two seven five zero one six, 1039 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:07.360 that's the number to call. Listen, We're almost at the 1040 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.360 end of the first hour, and I kind of have 1041 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.480 the urge to pee anyway, So Jimmy going silent or 1042 00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.760 talking to his mute button or whatever is kind of convenient. Uh, 1043 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:18.719 But he was in a good mood, you know. Uh, 1044 00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:20.960 So I definitely want to get back to talking to Jimmy, 1045 00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.760 especially when he's in a good mood and be pete. 1046 00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:26.280 I mean, we can, you know, you and I can 1047 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.079 just talk to each other if his phone can't get 1048 00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.480 straightened out anyway. Uh, but I would certainly love to 1049 00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:33.559 hear from more people who are hearing us live. And 1050 00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:39.320 if you're hearing us on Friday, May first, twenty twenty six, right, Uh, 1051 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:43.599 let's see at eight fifty seven and a half looks 1052 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.519 like PM in the Eastern time zone, and that means, 1053 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.880 you know, eight fifty seven and thirty seconds when I 1054 00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:52.199 said it. If you're hearing us at that time, you 1055 00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:56.440 can join in at three one nine five two seven 1056 00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:00.360 five zero one six. So anything you want to say 1057 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:01.800 before we go to break me Pete. 1058 00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:06.519 Oh, I would like to say goodbye to Info Wars. 1059 00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.239 They closed up last night in their last broadcast. Oh again, 1060 00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:15.639 Alex Jones has happened to start his new network. But yeah, 1061 00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.760 they are officially shut down after twenty seven years. 1062 00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:22.280 Now the Onion has apparently worked out a new deal 1063 00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:23.719 to take it over. Is that right? 1064 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.920 They had thought they had a deal and some judge 1065 00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:31.360 put the kabash on it, so it's still in limbo. 1066 00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:35.679 But Alex Jones went ahead and shut it down. Last 1067 00:57:35.760 --> 00:57:38.760 night was his last show and he's starting his new 1068 00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:44.239 Alex Jones Network to continue his crusade against the world. 1069 00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.800 Well see the first time, Yeah, but the first time, 1070 00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.639 the Onion took over the website briefly, right and all 1071 00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:53.199 that stuff, you know, and then the court order put 1072 00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:55.639 it to kabash on it for a while. Wasn't that 1073 00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:58.440 like a year ago at this point, I mean or 1074 00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.920 more where we're that happened, and then he started the 1075 00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:05.199 Alex Jones network separately, and he was doing that like 1076 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:10.199 on x and other places, and then Info Wars got 1077 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:14.000 back under his control. Now, the funky thing was, even 1078 00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.360 though the Onion had control of his website, if you 1079 00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:18.840 clicked on any of the uh you know, like go 1080 00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:23.639 buy something, you know store, you know links, you still 1081 00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:27.880 went to info Wars. You still went to doctor Jones's stuff, 1082 00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:30.360 which is allegedly a company owned by his father. Right, 1083 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.320 you know, He's got a vitamin company owned by his father. 1084 00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.760 He's probably got vitamin companies owned by all his cousins, 1085 00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.920 et cetera. Uh, but not his vitamin company his dad's. 1086 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.599 And even with the Onion supposedly controlling the site and 1087 00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.480 starting to post things and changing up things on the website, 1088 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.280 which was immediately trashed as soon as Alex came back, 1089 00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:53.599 they still had the info Wars store pretty much up there, 1090 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.280 you know, and the info Wars stuff was still for 1091 00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.239 sale if you click the links on there. So I'm 1092 00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.840 a little confused about who owns it and why and 1093 00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:06.920 how much they own. So, you know, does the Onion 1094 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:08.840 get it or is there a new media company I 1095 00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:12.679 don't know about yet that's supposedly gaining control of the 1096 00:59:12.760 --> 00:59:15.639 info Wars assets. Bpete. 1097 00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:18.679 You know, well, last I could see on X the 1098 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:21.800 Onion didn't get it, and I read something about a 1099 00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.800 judge put some type of injunction on them taking it over. 1100 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:27.760 So it's still in limbo right now. 1101 00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.000 Okay, so that's where it stands. 1102 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:31.079 Alex is gone. 1103 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:36.239 Okay, so Alex has now vacated Info Wars. And of 1104 00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:39.159 course the split with Paul Joseph Watson a couple of 1105 00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:42.559 years ago meant that he also abandoned prison Planet dot 1106 00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:47.000 Com a while ago. But still, you know, look, the 1107 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:51.079 guy is still a force just by showing up. It 1108 00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:53.760 seems like even though a bunch of his guys kind 1109 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:57.679 of abandoned ship during the uncertainty, always back and all that, 1110 00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:03.159 which I also find kind of interesting because you know, 1111 01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.079 those guys were complete sycophants while they're but as soon 1112 01:00:06.079 --> 01:00:09.239 as they leave, they usually trash Alex. I mean, you know, 1113 01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:12.760 the one guy didn't, who is you know, a classy guy, 1114 01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:16.559 what is David Knight? You know, didn't do that exactly. 1115 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.880 He criticizes Alex now, but you know, he never like 1116 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.760 went out of his way to like, you know, publicly 1117 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:27.960 kind of you know, joust with Alex. After leaving, he 1118 01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:29.519 just kind of went, look, I'm gonna go do my 1119 01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:33.760 thing because I don't agree with this thing anymore. And 1120 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:37.199 and that was about that. But Alex had others that 1121 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:41.400 had many more spicy things to say. So I guess 1122 01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.719 we'll see what happens in the near future with that. 1123 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:48.000 But in the meantime, nobody's taken over ocelly dot com 1124 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:51.920 or the o'celli effect, because I'm the only person behind it, 1125 01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:53.679 and probably that's gonna be the way it is till 1126 01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:57.159 I dropped dead, and with any luck, that'll be soon. 1127 01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:01.000 So you know, hey, limited time off. Support the show, 1128 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:04.280 and uh you can call in once again. 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It's 1200 01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:18.719 about seven minutes after the hour of nine pm Eastern 1201 01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:22.360 here in what we used to call America, and we 1202 01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.559 are live taking your calls if you choose to do so. 1203 01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:29.119 Three one nine five two seven five zero one six. 1204 01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:31.840 That's the key all the way up to ten pm 1205 01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:36.320 Eastern when the Age of Transitions begins with Aaron Franz. 1206 01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:40.599 So that's what it was, that's what it going to be. Anyway. 1207 01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:43.119 B Pete is with me. Jimmy James joined us so far, 1208 01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:46.880 but like I said, we always got one hundred open 1209 01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.719 lines and we never ever come close to using them all. 1210 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.480 So anyway, be Pete. We were talking sports a bit. 1211 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:57.760 We were talking about the farm systems, et cetera. But 1212 01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.000 you know, like I said, the news has been very 1213 01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:05.239 weird this week. Anyhow, more debates on one of the 1214 01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.559 websites that I do go to for information sometimes about 1215 01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:11.679 the death penalty. Again. I couldn't exactly suss out why 1216 01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:15.679 that discussion was happening again, except that, you know, people 1217 01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.800 want to draw the political line about who's for it 1218 01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:23.239 and who's against it, you know, And I'm one of 1219 01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:26.440 these weird cases where in theory, if I trusted the system, 1220 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:28.760 I'd be for it because it would be a balance, 1221 01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:31.800 not that it would be preventative, not that it would 1222 01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:34.800 you know, be a proper punishment, you know, for people 1223 01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:38.239 who do horrendous things, because to me, it's much more 1224 01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:41.480 rough to have to live outside of you know, dying 1225 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.880 is easy to do. But anyway, you know, what can 1226 01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:50.079 you say anymore? Is it humane? Is it reasonable? What 1227 01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:52.880 does the world community think about it? Et cetera, et cetera. 1228 01:07:53.079 --> 01:07:54.679 And you know what, I don't even want to have 1229 01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:57.760 the debate anymore. I don't care who's for it who's 1230 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:01.159 against it. I don't trust the system to implement it. 1231 01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:04.639 And you know, until we have a clear and effective 1232 01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:07.119 way of doing this and also not sitting people on 1233 01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.599 death row for twenty freaking years. There are people dropping 1234 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:13.079 dead on death row, to the point where it just 1235 01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:16.279 looks like a whole lot of bureaucratic waste to run 1236 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:19.079 them through all of their appeals and everything else. Now 1237 01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:22.680 I believe in appeals, and of course I question everything 1238 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.840 in the judicial system, and yet I look at that 1239 01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:32.359 and say, what a complete waste of time, energy, resources, etc. 1240 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:35.560 I don't even care about you know what about the prisoner. 1241 01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:38.079 We got to pay to put them up. That's bs. 1242 01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:42.119 That's a for profit system anyway, So I don't want 1243 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.319 to hear about how much it costs to incarcerate somebody. 1244 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:48.159 It's not about the cost. It's about what actually makes sense, 1245 01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:50.680 and none of it does. With the way it's implemented 1246 01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:55.159 and not implemented and the moratoriums and blah blah blah, 1247 01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.840 it doesn't make any damn sense. So, you know, until 1248 01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:02.119 we can streamline things and do it directly, I don't 1249 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:05.239 have a solid two or you know, for or against 1250 01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:08.840 position to take on it. And I'm frankly exhausted from it. 1251 01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:10.840 I don't even want to discuss it anymore. 1252 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:14.000 The reason, yeah, the reason, the reason it came up 1253 01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:16.760 was because the military had decided that they would use 1254 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:21.319 the firing squad as a form of execution, which you 1255 01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:23.279 know they had a while back and then got rid of. 1256 01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:25.640 And the things I see. 1257 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:29.159 Online, especially on x IS, you know people talking about, 1258 01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:31.760 well the death penalty of you know, to execute somebody, 1259 01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:36.119 and and you know five states currently have the firing 1260 01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:40.199 squad as a form of execution. In fact, remember the 1261 01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:46.119 Brian Colberger case up in Idaho where the four roommates 1262 01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:50.880 were killed. In the pre trial arguments, his lawyer brought 1263 01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:55.479 up that his client was, you know, going through undo 1264 01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:02.119 torture in that, you know, deciding you know, if he's 1265 01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.840 going to get the death penalty, and and you know 1266 01:10:04.920 --> 01:10:06.199 which form. 1267 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:07.239 Would be carried out. 1268 01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:11.560 And the state prosecutor that was that was working the 1269 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:15.000 case basically said, well he can end all that. You know, 1270 01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.920 anticipation and nervousness just took one. 1271 01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:19.359 Just pick a form. 1272 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:23.600 You know, if you know, if you have guilty and 1273 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:26.319 you get the death penalty, there's no sense getting upset 1274 01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:29.560 over it. Now get all worked up and nervous over 1275 01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:31.640 the thing. You get a choice. You can pick you 1276 01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:34.560 this method or that method. Pick one, right. 1277 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:36.560 It was kind of comical to the way that they 1278 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:37.239 brought it up. 1279 01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:41.279 But yeah, five states now still currently have the UH 1280 01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.960 firing squad as a form of execution for the death penalty. 1281 01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:48.680 And I'm like you, if if I trusted the system, 1282 01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.760 i'd be for it, and I'm I am for it, 1283 01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:56.399 but I don't put trust in the system, especially with 1284 01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:58.359 some of the things that we've seen come up in. 1285 01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:00.279 Court cases here in the past few years. 1286 01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.359 Well that's the thing, guys getting exonerated after being in 1287 01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:05.039 jail for twenty seven years. 1288 01:11:05.199 --> 01:11:08.079 Yeah, I'm one of these guys. They found out that exactly, 1289 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:11.600 They find out that you know, there's zero DNA connecting 1290 01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:13.960 the guy, but there is DNA that makes sense for 1291 01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.600 the crime connected to an entirely different person, you know 1292 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.119 what I mean. That's happened too many times. And my 1293 01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.600 point is, and I am one of these guys. And 1294 01:11:22.640 --> 01:11:25.079 you can call me a liberal, bleeding heart or whatever 1295 01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.640 the hell else you want, but here's the thing. I'd 1296 01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:32.199 rather not execute one hundred guys that need to be executed, 1297 01:11:32.319 --> 01:11:35.920 as opposed to putting one to death in the name 1298 01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:38.119 of the state, in the name of the people and 1299 01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:42.159 all that. You know, I don't want to execute one 1300 01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:44.840 person wrongly you know what I mean. 1301 01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.000 Well, I mean that's the old saying when it comes 1302 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.520 to the legal system. You know, it's better than one 1303 01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:53.000 hundred guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted. Right, 1304 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.239 But we see, we see these Well, in fact, we 1305 01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.119 had a case here in North Carolina. We had a 1306 01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.560 guy that had been in jail for like twenty some years. Yeah, 1307 01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:05.359 and the evidence that they had was showed that another 1308 01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:10.680 guy through fingerprint and palm print testimony. Come to find out, 1309 01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.960 the guy that was doing these tests for the state 1310 01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.640 SBI lab didn't have the certifications that he claimed he 1311 01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:19.119 had had and had. 1312 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:20.479 Screwed up a bunch of cases. 1313 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:22.479 So you finally get a guy that gets out of 1314 01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:25.760 jail after twenty something years, and it was innocent the 1315 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:26.279 whole time. 1316 01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:29.279 Yeah. See, now I remember, Okay, there was a case 1317 01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:31.399 I'm sorry, just let me interrupt you for a second 1318 01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.479 because I can't remember if it was North Carolina or 1319 01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:35.840 South Carolina. I mix these two up all the time. 1320 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:40.279 There was a case where literally like this person had 1321 01:12:40.319 --> 01:12:44.880 committed like heinous rape murder, you know, brutalized you know, 1322 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.279 a woman and a dude. Okay, this whole thing, and 1323 01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:53.000 it turns out it was two guys. They caught one guy. 1324 01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:55.319 They said, oh, he just wouldn't give up his accomplish 1325 01:12:55.439 --> 01:12:57.600 The guy was saying he was innocent the whole time. 1326 01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.119 And then they did let him out something like twenty 1327 01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:05.439 two years later, okay, because finally somebody exhumed the body. 1328 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:09.159 Oh right, and look, in cremations, you don't get the 1329 01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:11.600 chance to exhume the body, okay, and you got to 1330 01:13:11.640 --> 01:13:14.399 work with photographs and whatever else was you know, retained. 1331 01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.239 But they exhumed the body and literally, we're still able 1332 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:22.800 to lift this person manually strangled the woman to death 1333 01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.319 right with his bare hands. And the thing is, the 1334 01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:28.840 handprint was still able to be taken off of this 1335 01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.399 body twenty two years later. And I don't remember if 1336 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:35.079 it was North Carolina or South Carolina. And allegedly it 1337 01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:38.439 was committed by two guys who you know, overwhelmed, they 1338 01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:41.439 did one of those you know, nighttime invasion things and 1339 01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:46.520 just you know, brutalized the woman and abused the dude too, actually, 1340 01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:48.960 and like you know, but they left him alive, killed 1341 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:53.680 the woman after raping her, and they they didn't have 1342 01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:55.840 at the time the uh, you know, I guess twenty 1343 01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:58.000 two years ago or twenty two years from the time 1344 01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:00.600 this was, you know, exonerated, like say in two thousand 1345 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.680 and five or something, So you're talking like nineteen eighty five. 1346 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:06.880 They weren't able to, you know, get more than the 1347 01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:10.680 blood type off of the seamen somehow in North or 1348 01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:14.359 South Carolina, and you know, this guy's blood type matched, 1349 01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:18.640 but he wasn't the perpetrator. And when they actually ran DNA, 1350 01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:22.920 they still could on the woman the woman's body, they 1351 01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:26.279 ran DNA, they got a partial on the DNA, but 1352 01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:30.119 then the handprint itself did it because they had a 1353 01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:34.840 complete representation of this person's hand and it turned out 1354 01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:38.920 that guy was already imprisoned for something else. Is that 1355 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:40.960 the story you're talking about? Or am I? Or am 1356 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:42.039 I thinking of a different one? 1357 01:14:42.199 --> 01:14:45.239 I think I think that was in South Carolina. The 1358 01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:49.520 maintains I'm thinking of was Darryl Hunt. He was in 1359 01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:53.239 prisoned for nineteen years for first degree murdered and he 1360 01:14:53.359 --> 01:14:58.199 was convicted based on unreliable witness testimony and a recanted confession. 1361 01:14:57.680 --> 01:14:59.960 From his girlfriend. 1362 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:04.760 DNA evidence later excluded him and he was let out 1363 01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.319 in two thousand and five after nineteen years. 1364 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:09.239 The one that's really bad. 1365 01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:12.520 Was a case of I think these guys were cousins 1366 01:15:12.600 --> 01:15:17.199 or they were they brothers, Henry McCollum and Leon Brown. 1367 01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:21.520 They were prosecuted for rape and murder of an eleven 1368 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.199 year old girl and they were in jail for thirty 1369 01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:24.880 one years. 1370 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.119 They were teenagers at the time they were convicted, right, 1371 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:28.720 and it. 1372 01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:33.880 Was convicted based on coerce confessions and fabricated evidence. That's 1373 01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:36.279 the ones that really get me is when they go 1374 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:39.079 back and they retry the case or they look at 1375 01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:41.720 the evidence that was used and they find out that, 1376 01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:46.199 you know, these kids were teenagers, they have coerce confessions 1377 01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:52.079 and fabricated evidence. You know, these law enforcement agents sees 1378 01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:56.319 were fabricating evidence to put these guys in jail, right, 1379 01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:59.880 and then they found out that through DNA that had 1380 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.560 fight another uh suspect and I think that suspect died 1381 01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:07.279 while he was in prison on another charge. But here's 1382 01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:12.479 two kids, you know, teenagers for thirty one years, you know, 1383 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.159 having to fight for their life and then finally they're 1384 01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.000 let go. It's you know, they they win settlements, they 1385 01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:20.600 get settlements from the state for this, but you know, 1386 01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:25.479 does that is that even you know, is it is 1387 01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:28.680 it fair compensation for taking thirty one years from somebody? 1388 01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.079 I mean, that's a life, that's the prime. 1389 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:33.720 That's the prime of their life too. That's not even 1390 01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:36.720 like you know, and when you get out of you 1391 01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:39.199 get out of prison at fifty and you've been in 1392 01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:43.279 there since a teenager, you're not in the same shape 1393 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:46.319 as you know, regular civilian. You've now you know, gone 1394 01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.600 through a thing where you're living in a box. And 1395 01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.960 plus if they were you know, marked as child killers 1396 01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:58.399 and rapists, uh, you know, they weren't exactly making friends. Okay, yeah. Good. 1397 01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:02.680 The guy that was the longest, this was Ronnie Long. 1398 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:05.319 He was convicted of rape and burglary and he was 1399 01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:08.560 in prison for over forty four years. He was convicted 1400 01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:14.039 in seventy six despite not matching the victims description, and 1401 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.239 you know, his evidence was mishandled and there was a 1402 01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:23.079 rape kit that ended up missing. He was fin donerated 1403 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.079 and he got twenty five million from the state. But 1404 01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.560 you know, just twenty five million make up for over 1405 01:17:28.600 --> 01:17:30.119 forty four years of being in jail. 1406 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:34.239 Well no number one, number two, you know, like in 1407 01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:37.720 that case I was talking about what's messed up? There 1408 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:40.720 is you know, look, they got the handprint. Okay, they 1409 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:45.039 exonerated him, but you know that's twenty two years twenty 1410 01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:48.000 How do you get that back? Number one? Number two? 1411 01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:50.079 You know, what they had as a as you know, 1412 01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:52.800 as part of the weight of the conviction came from 1413 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:56.880 the living witness from the crime scene who did identify 1414 01:17:57.079 --> 01:18:00.439 these two, you know, two guys, and they identify the 1415 01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:04.199 one guy who was in prison, right because they said 1416 01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:07.920 he never gave up as co conspirator, but he identified him. 1417 01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.439 And then when they actually brought you know, the real 1418 01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:13.119 guy or you know, they gave him a picture of 1419 01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:15.000 the real guy, and you know, at the time that 1420 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:19.079 the occurrence happened and everything, the guy admitted, yeah, okay, 1421 01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:23.039 that's the guy, and he thought they were the same person, 1422 01:18:23.239 --> 01:18:25.399 like literally, that has to be the same guy that 1423 01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:29.399 I testified against. And he was just wrong, dude, I mean, 1424 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:33.079 and I'm not blaming him. You go through a traumatic, 1425 01:18:33.479 --> 01:18:37.960 you know situation, your memory might be a little off, 1426 01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:41.760 you know, and you're also being presented with a guy 1427 01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:44.000 who you're being told by the police who or they 1428 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.600 are you know, protecting you now that you you know, 1429 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:49.760 survived this whole event and whatever, and they're like, look, 1430 01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:51.880 we just want to get the guy, so they're sympathetic 1431 01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:54.159 to you and everything else. You don't think that that 1432 01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:56.800 makes it a little easier to sort of bend the 1433 01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:00.960 person that you're being presented with. Is this the guy? Yeah, 1434 01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:04.119 if it's close even in appearance, you know, same race, 1435 01:19:04.159 --> 01:19:08.920 about the same height, whatever. And I think in this case, 1436 01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:12.760 the guy was like like Latino looking, you know what 1437 01:19:12.840 --> 01:19:15.479 I mean, Like they were both like Latino looking guys, 1438 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:20.560 so you know, they were sort of similar. And when 1439 01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:22.840 you looked at the pictures from the same time period, 1440 01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:25.439 because the guy who did it was older than this 1441 01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:28.439 guy at the time, but he was already in prison. 1442 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:30.760 That was the weird part. He's in prison for a 1443 01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:32.840 whole other thing. And then they had to go and 1444 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.279 you know, bring this charge on him. And I don't 1445 01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:38.520 remember if they even caught the co conspirator, because I 1446 01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:42.159 just thought it was so ridiculous that even after they 1447 01:19:42.399 --> 01:19:45.279 extracted the DNA from the corpse twenty two years later, 1448 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:49.880 they didn't have a full DNA profile, but they had 1449 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.600 enough of a profile to exclude this guy who did 1450 01:19:53.640 --> 01:19:55.920 share a blood type with the other guy. Because look, 1451 01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.840 I'll tell you this, I got a positive blood, right, 1452 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:04.119 the majority of you know, quote, white males in America 1453 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:10.560 have a positive blood overwhelming majority. It's like super common. 1454 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:13.960 Blood type is nothing, you know. I mean, it means 1455 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.439 something if you need a transfusion, but otherwise you share 1456 01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:19.600 a blood type with a lot of people, unless you know, 1457 01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:23.520 you got like super like what is that AB negative 1458 01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:27.319 or AB positive blood? Or if you got TYPO negative blood, 1459 01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.920 it's kind of rare. But other than that, blood types 1460 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:33.960 are fairly common, you know what I mean. So like 1461 01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.399 a blood type is nothing, Yeah, go ahead. 1462 01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:39.000 You know an example of how bad it is here 1463 01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:41.359 in North Carolina, they've exonerated fifty eight people. 1464 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:42.720 And this is a report. 1465 01:20:42.399 --> 01:20:47.840 That was put out by the Wilson Center of Law 1466 01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:51.119 and Justice at Duke University. And you know, they had 1467 01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:54.119 a problem with people that were being exonerated. So the 1468 01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.600 state put together a commission back in two thousand and 1469 01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:02.079 six to kind of look at and make recommendations for 1470 01:21:02.239 --> 01:21:06.479 changes in the way evidence is handled and the way 1471 01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:10.359 witness testimony is handled. And they made these recommendations. Well, 1472 01:21:11.039 --> 01:21:16.039 eleven cases were people who were wrongly convicted after this 1473 01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:17.520 commission was established. 1474 01:21:18.119 --> 01:21:21.319 And so even you know, states have a tough job. 1475 01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:26.000 On being able to try to find the guidelines for 1476 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:28.920 their court system to handle things like this. 1477 01:21:29.039 --> 01:21:30.159 But here's eleven guys. 1478 01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:33.520 Even after a commission was established and had been working 1479 01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:37.840 for quite some time, it was still convicted over bad evidence, 1480 01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:42.880 bad testimony, bad shenanigans by law enforcement. 1481 01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.560 So you know, I'm like, I'm with you. 1482 01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:50.239 If if I could trust the system better, I wouldn't 1483 01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:53.600 have a hesitation. But I'd rather have somebody sitting in 1484 01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:58.600 prison than put to death. And we find out later 1485 01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:01.960 that it wasn't him, right, you know, look at the 1486 01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:04.159 look at the most probably one of the most famous 1487 01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:09.359 recent cases. Uh, you know when Netflix did that special making, uh, 1488 01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:12.680 making a Murderer, Right, And the guy who was convicted 1489 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.600 in that he had been in jail for a rate 1490 01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:21.520 that he didn't commit, and he had an alibi, solid 1491 01:22:21.560 --> 01:22:24.479 alibi with receipts of where he wasn't even in town. 1492 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:28.119 And once he got out of of prison on that charge, 1493 01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:33.439 he met with the victim and the victim positively identified 1494 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:36.439 him several times, that's the guy, this is the guy, 1495 01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:40.680 and uh, they were able to meet after he got 1496 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.239 out of prison, and it was found that it was 1497 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:45.600 another guy that was in jail that actually did it, 1498 01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.600 you know, and she apologized, she said, I'm sorry, I 1499 01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:52.359 got it wrong. So you know, there you have a 1500 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:54.680 case of somebody who was adamant, Yes that's the guy 1501 01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:57.960 who attacked me. And years down the road, you know, 1502 01:22:58.039 --> 01:23:00.600 they they find out that, no, it couldn't be that guy. 1503 01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:02.960 It was this guy. We've got the DNA to prove it. 1504 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.720 So you know, what do you do that It's that's 1505 01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:09.119 got to sit on somebody's shoulders for a long time 1506 01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:11.319 to think that, you know, I'm responsible for that guy 1507 01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:15.439 going to jail. Yeah, but I made an an honest mistake. 1508 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:18.239 It wasn't like, you know, she went out of her 1509 01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:20.399 way to persecute the guy because she didn't like him. 1510 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:24.079 It was an honest mistaken mistake. 1511 01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:29.760 Can put somebody in, you know, on death row. I 1512 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:30.199 don't know. 1513 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:31.079 Well, that's the thing. 1514 01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:33.279 I have faith in the system that allows that to happen. 1515 01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:35.119 But that's what I brought up about that guy that 1516 01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.520 survived the home invasion thing, right, is that look, the 1517 01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:42.159 guy honestly thought that he was, you know, pointing the 1518 01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:46.319 finger at the right guy. But eyewitnesses get things wrong 1519 01:23:46.960 --> 01:23:50.680 regarding shop lit thing. Man, I mean, they think they 1520 01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:52.960 see stuff that they don't, and they see stuff that 1521 01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:57.520 they didn't. You know, it's just eyewitnesses are not super 1522 01:23:57.560 --> 01:23:59.920 as reliable as people want to make them out to be, 1523 01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:02.600 you know what I mean, in a lot of cases. 1524 01:24:02.720 --> 01:24:05.960 So yeah, I think a bigger problem that we have 1525 01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:11.319 right now are people that go to court and are convicted. 1526 01:24:11.920 --> 01:24:13.800 And we're seeing a lot of this in North Carolina 1527 01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:20.560 right now. Guys that are being convicted of assault, attempted murder, 1528 01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:21.840 things like that. 1529 01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:24.880 They go to jail, they get convicted, and they get 1530 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:25.880 six months. 1531 01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:28.439 We have a current case that took place up in 1532 01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:32.840 Winston Salem not long ago. A kid, a teenager gets 1533 01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:35.520 out of a vehicle with a I don't know if 1534 01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.000 it was an AR fifteen or an AK forty seven 1535 01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:41.560 and lets fourteen shots off into a crowd of kids 1536 01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:45.359 in a park, in a gathering and one person dies, 1537 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:48.279 a bunch of people are injured, and. 1538 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:50.479 They let him out on five thousand dollars bond. 1539 01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:53.159 Well we didn't think, you know, the judge says, well, 1540 01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:54.680 I don't think he's that big of a threat to 1541 01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:57.920 the community. He just shot up a group of teenagers 1542 01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:00.800 and you let him out on five thousand some bucks. 1543 01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:01.359 Yeah. 1544 01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:04.920 Well, it's the problem we're seeing now is with these judges. 1545 01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:09.319 And I'm seeing stories weekly of different parts of the 1546 01:25:09.359 --> 01:25:12.520 country where these judges get in there and get somebody 1547 01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:18.840 that's a fifty six time of felon, you know, fifty 1548 01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.800 six charges. They go, they get caught, they get let 1549 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:24.760 out of jail, and they're right back, you know, assaulting 1550 01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:27.399 somebody within a week of getting out, some of them 1551 01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:29.079 the same day that they get out. 1552 01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:32.000 I think our problem now is more. 1553 01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.880 You know, if we're gonna if we're going to prosecute people, 1554 01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:37.279 then hold them accountable and put them in jail. But 1555 01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:40.279 when you attempt to kill somebody and you get six months, 1556 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:42.239 something's wrong with that judge. 1557 01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:43.680 Well not only then the. 1558 01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:47.479 Judge goes against the recommendations for sentencing that the state 1559 01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:50.960 has come up with and give somebody six months over 1560 01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.880 attempted murder. You think you're going to teach that guy 1561 01:25:53.960 --> 01:25:58.039 a lesson six months, but you don't. Sorry, we need 1562 01:25:58.079 --> 01:25:59.680 to start looking at these damn judges. 1563 01:26:00.279 --> 01:26:03.039 Look, the whole thing is a problem, and it goes 1564 01:26:03.039 --> 01:26:07.119 in all directions, you know, the the over prosecution, the 1565 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:11.479 the over you know, the overly rigged. You know. Conviction 1566 01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:14.520 rate is one thing, yes, But on the other hand, 1567 01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:16.760 you're right about this. I'll tell you something you don't 1568 01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:19.039 even want to get into. Murder and assault and what's 1569 01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:23.119 what you know, just if you live in a populated area, 1570 01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:25.560 you know, if you want to freak yourself out, go 1571 01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:27.600 ahead and look at those websites to tell you where 1572 01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:31.279 all the pedophiles are, you know, all the registered sex 1573 01:26:31.319 --> 01:26:35.039 offenders in your area. And I'm telling you I don't 1574 01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.479 know anybody that doesn't you know, that lives in a 1575 01:26:37.800 --> 01:26:43.199 like a densely populated, relatively densely populated area that can't 1576 01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:47.600 find themselves surrounded by the little blue dots on the 1577 01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:50.439 pedophile website, you know what I mean, where it's like 1578 01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:54.479 these guys don't serve time in a lot of cases. 1579 01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:58.439 I mean, as much as I'm upset about the wrongly convicted, 1580 01:26:59.560 --> 01:27:02.279 the guy that are just left to, you know, continue 1581 01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:06.239 to roam and Greek havoc are also a problem. So 1582 01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:10.359 that's the thing. It's throughout the entire system. It is 1583 01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:13.800 from front to back, from A to Z. It's a 1584 01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:18.600 problem because it is not being done evenly. I've certainly 1585 01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:21.239 complained plenty of times about how poor people get treated 1586 01:27:21.279 --> 01:27:24.319 in there, and that's true, but at the same time, 1587 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:28.760 there are scumbags that seem to walk free no matter 1588 01:27:28.840 --> 01:27:32.600 what they do. I mean, look, i'll tell you about 1589 01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:35.479 a situation. I'm not going to name names, but this 1590 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:40.560 is messed up. There is somebody that I know that 1591 01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:45.159 was like, let's just say, all right, I'll put it 1592 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:47.760 to you. He was cutting our grass. Okay, that's what 1593 01:27:47.800 --> 01:27:50.840 he was doing. And I don't have a lawnmar So 1594 01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:52.880 he's one of these guys that goes around, Hey, listen, 1595 01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:54.840 if you need somebody to you know, he stops the 1596 01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:56.960 neighborhoods if he sees your grass is tall, and knock 1597 01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.520 on your door, right, and he gets together a little 1598 01:27:59.520 --> 01:28:05.640 client list, and that's what he does. Okay, Well, his girlfriend, 1599 01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.119 you know, after he's like, you know, doing this for 1600 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.399 a while for us, and now he suddenly disappeared, by 1601 01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:15.239 the way, but his girlfriend for a little like suddenly 1602 01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:17.960 pops up out of nowhere. And she was like apparently 1603 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.960 his girlfriend before, but she hadn't been around. Now she's around. 1604 01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:24.359 She's even making calls and scheduling when to cut the 1605 01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:26.760 grass for us and some of our neighbors. Et cetera, 1606 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:29.960 et cetera. Right, so you think, Okay, what's Chuck going 1607 01:28:29.960 --> 01:28:31.640 to say about the dude? Is he a pedophile? 1608 01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:31.800 No? 1609 01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:39.600 Hang on. The girlfriend is apparently out on bail right 1610 01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:44.199 for killing one of her own children and one of 1611 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:52.319 her nieces or nephews, Okay, murdering small children. She's out 1612 01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:54.880 on bail, and she was out on bail for, like, 1613 01:28:55.800 --> 01:28:59.159 I don't know, a year and a half. At like that, 1614 01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:02.279 I knew of her being out on bail, right, I 1615 01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:05.640 didn't know what she was out on bail. Four And 1616 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:08.239 then eventually a warrant got issued for he because she 1617 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:12.159 didn't show up for a court case. Okay, And somehow 1618 01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:14.239 or other they knew that she was somewhere in our 1619 01:29:14.279 --> 01:29:20.119 neighborhood with him. Cops came looking for and at a 1620 01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:22.920 certain point, because I guess something happened where state lines 1621 01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:27.920 were crossed, the federal marshals were looking for okay. And 1622 01:29:28.079 --> 01:29:29.920 I mean, she was involved in that major of a 1623 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:34.680 crime and was walking around for eighteen months on a bail, 1624 01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:41.159 two children dead, one of them her own, you know. 1625 01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:47.560 And meanwhile, you know, she's saying hello to my son, 1626 01:29:47.720 --> 01:29:53.119 right because hey, he's here, you know, and what is it. Oh, 1627 01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:55.159 that's the girlfriend of the guy who cuts the grass. 1628 01:29:55.199 --> 01:30:00.800 No big deal. I was like in show that this 1629 01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:02.960 woman was walking around after killing one of her own 1630 01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:04.960 children and either her niece or nephew. I can never 1631 01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:08.479 get that part of the story straight. Just decided to 1632 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:13.079 off them because the father wasn't paying child support for 1633 01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:16.119 her own child. And I don't know what the reason 1634 01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:22.119 was for the niece or nephew. But anyway, apparently I'm 1635 01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:24.279 one of the few people that didn't know about this 1636 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:29.159 in like just this part of town, you know. And 1637 01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:31.039 then when somebody told me about it, went and checked 1638 01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:33.439 on the website and there she is, her pictures up there, 1639 01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:35.000 you know. I mean you can go and see when 1640 01:30:35.039 --> 01:30:37.640 people have been you know, blocked up, you know what 1641 01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:39.560 I'm talking about bepete where you can check on certain 1642 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:44.239 websites and things and you can literally see their mugshot 1643 01:30:44.279 --> 01:30:49.560 and all that. There she was smiling in her mugshot. 1644 01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:54.600 I remember, not long ago. I can't remember the case, 1645 01:30:55.800 --> 01:30:57.199 but a guy. 1646 01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:01.840 Appealed it, and this was a a child assault case. 1647 01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:05.920 He appealed it because he felt like being on the 1648 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:12.039 sex offender registry was unfair. I'm sitting here thinking, well, 1649 01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:14.000 how is it unfair for people. 1650 01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:16.319 To know who their neighbors are. You know, if somebody 1651 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:20.039 has been convicted of something like that, is that, Oh, well, 1652 01:31:20.079 --> 01:31:22.119 he did his time and he paid his price, but 1653 01:31:22.199 --> 01:31:27.199 he's on this registry, so he's being continually punished for 1654 01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:30.720 something that he paid his dues. And I'm sitting here thinking, well, 1655 01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:34.119 part of the dues are people knowing that you're a 1656 01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:37.920 sex offender and you're on the registry. I mean, you know, 1657 01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:40.640 we didn't have that thirty years ago. Now we do. 1658 01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:44.479 And I've actually heard people argue it in court that 1659 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:47.119 it is unfair for someone to be on a registry 1660 01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:50.039 like that years after that they did their time and 1661 01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:53.560 paid their debt to society, And you know, it really 1662 01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:56.079 makes you wonder where some of these lawyers come from. 1663 01:31:56.119 --> 01:31:59.560 I know they get paid to represent their client, but god, 1664 01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:01.199 there's got be a limit somewhere. 1665 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:05.079 Well, look, lawyers, I mean I could sit here and 1666 01:32:05.119 --> 01:32:08.359 have a complete tie rate about lawyers in general if 1667 01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:10.920 I wanted to, but I'm not gonna waste your time 1668 01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:14.000 with it. The thing is this, I don't even blame 1669 01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:18.680 the lawyer for giving every single viable defense and protection 1670 01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.600 to a client regardless of whether they're guilty or innocent. 1671 01:32:22.039 --> 01:32:25.000 I think that's a good thing in our system. But 1672 01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:28.840 here's the thing. The only reason why they have a 1673 01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:33.720 precedent to argue over is because, you know, again, the 1674 01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:38.279 system itself failed somewhere else, you know what I mean, 1675 01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:42.000 Because if there was a good track record here and 1676 01:32:42.119 --> 01:32:44.399 they were able to say, listen, we keep these people 1677 01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:48.359 from committing more crimes if we do this, we do 1678 01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.640 this and that, and it works to do this or that, 1679 01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:54.399 you would think that that would be the key here 1680 01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:57.319 where it's like, hey, look, the sex offender registry thing 1681 01:32:57.359 --> 01:33:01.039 works real well, but it doesn't work that well. You know, 1682 01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:05.159 it's not like it's not like it's an automatic thing. 1683 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:08.800 And also, I don't think it's very fair that a 1684 01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:12.520 guy who you know, steps over the line with an 1685 01:33:12.640 --> 01:33:17.800 overly mature looking teenager should be in the same category, 1686 01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:23.680 you know what I mean, as a straight up you know, 1687 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:27.239 kitty diddler. I mean, there's a difference. 1688 01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:31.039 I think, you know, we're seeing part of that in 1689 01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:34.119 this Epstein files things where you know, they're talking about 1690 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.399 oh the victims, Oh the victims, Oh the victims, and 1691 01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:40.079 it's like, well, yeah, they are victims to a degree. 1692 01:33:40.199 --> 01:33:42.399 But then again, some of these people claiming to be 1693 01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:46.560 victims were above the age of consent when they engaged 1694 01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:50.359 in certain activities, So you know, are they. 1695 01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:51.000 Really a victim. 1696 01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:52.279 Well, but here's the thing. 1697 01:33:52.319 --> 01:33:54.560 You have an age of consent loss for a reason. 1698 01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:58.199 Look, there's a point in which Okay, a violation is 1699 01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:01.840 a violation. Fine, But I just think that there is 1700 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:06.680 some level of discernment we could use regarding the I 1701 01:34:06.680 --> 01:34:10.560 don't know the egregious nature of the crime, exactly what 1702 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:14.800 level it goes to, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1703 01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.399 you know, you kill a guy in a fight is 1704 01:34:18.439 --> 01:34:22.119 a different story than you stalked and murdered somebody, you 1705 01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:25.000 know what I mean. You slept with somebody who lied 1706 01:34:25.039 --> 01:34:27.279 to you about their age, and you know, if you 1707 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:31.880 look at them, you could judge it wrong too, you know, 1708 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:39.199 versus the guy who tracks down you know, the clearly 1709 01:34:39.640 --> 01:34:46.079 not matured person to violate. There is a difference between 1710 01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:49.800 these things, you know what I mean, And I think 1711 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:55.119 that the pendulum swings the wrong. Look, every time there's 1712 01:34:55.199 --> 01:34:58.039 a correction on these kinds of things, there is an 1713 01:34:58.079 --> 01:35:01.439 over correction, you know what I mean, Like the me 1714 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:06.439 too movement. Sure, it shouldn't be that their entire industries 1715 01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:11.359 that are completely seemingly insulated and allow predatory behavior to 1716 01:35:11.399 --> 01:35:14.359 take place where you know, people are put into a 1717 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:18.520 position of being humiliated and violated and this and that 1718 01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:23.239 that should not be permissible. But you know, is it 1719 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:27.840 on the same level as the scumbag who randomly attacks 1720 01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:31.479 and takes down somebody or invades their home and does 1721 01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:34.640 that to them. No, I don't think so, you know 1722 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.479 what I mean. It's like the everything becomes as salt 1723 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:43.199 is also bullshit. You know, there's a certain level of 1724 01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:47.880 it's just words. There's a certain level of you know, 1725 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.720 you were asked to do something, not you were forced, 1726 01:35:52.520 --> 01:35:56.279 you know what I mean. There's differences here. There's nuance 1727 01:35:56.399 --> 01:35:57.159 if you will. 1728 01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:59.800 And well you see you see that also when it 1729 01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:03.079 comes to this, you know, the people that are supportive 1730 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:07.279 of hate crimes and it's like, oh, you murdered that guy, 1731 01:36:07.399 --> 01:36:10.199 but you know you did it because of this or that, 1732 01:36:10.279 --> 01:36:11.439 and that's a hate crime. 1733 01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.600 And it's like, well, now you're getting into the thought 1734 01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:17.520 crime end of things. You know, yeah, I murdered the guy, 1735 01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:20.680 but it wasn't out of hate. It was out of 1736 01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:23.479 this it was for this reason or that reason. 1737 01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:27.560 So it doesn't matter when it comes to murder. To me, 1738 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:29.600 I don't care why you murder. 1739 01:36:29.640 --> 01:36:33.640 If you're there's a difference between just fiable homicide and 1740 01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:38.359 murder and manslaughter, you know, and that's why you have 1741 01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:42.000 those different degrees of adjudication. 1742 01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:45.760 So I don't care why you murdered the guy. You 1743 01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:48.359 murdered him, you were found guilty, you were convicted. 1744 01:36:48.800 --> 01:36:51.279 But to put extra on top of it because it 1745 01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:55.039 was done by because of hate, well maybe it was 1746 01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:58.239 just done out of anger, you know, and the guy 1747 01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:02.359 said something why while he was expressing his anger verbally. 1748 01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:05.640 So now we're gonna trump up the charges. We're gonna 1749 01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:08.600 make it worse, you know, we're gonna tackle on an 1750 01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:11.720 extra twenty years because it was a hate crime. It 1751 01:37:11.800 --> 01:37:14.560 really doesn't matter why you murdered somebody. If you're convicted 1752 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.520 of murder, you're convicted of murder. You know the reason 1753 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:20.960 why you did it, that's on you, right. Whether it's 1754 01:37:21.079 --> 01:37:24.199 enough to get out of murder and it be deemed 1755 01:37:24.319 --> 01:37:28.920 justifiable homicide or manslaughter is the way it's argued in 1756 01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.119 court and the way the evidence is presented to support 1757 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:34.800 the charges. But this hate crime stuff. That's something I 1758 01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:38.119 have never understood. You're gonna kill somebody, I mean, if 1759 01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.760 you're gonna commit murder, does it really matter what reason 1760 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:41.359 you did it for? 1761 01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:43.640 Well, no, And that's the you know that to me 1762 01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:46.039 is also is see you and I agree on this 1763 01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:51.840 completely because here we go again, because you hated somebody, 1764 01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:56.760 Does that change anything? I mean, in reality, think about 1765 01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.239 this as the surviving victim, right, the person that means 1766 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.319 the world to you, the person that is of key 1767 01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:06.840 importance that now your life is forever changed because their 1768 01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:13.239 life was ended. Now that is horrible. That is a 1769 01:38:13.319 --> 01:38:16.720 terrible thing to deal with, you know, an irreplaceable parent 1770 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:20.680 and irreplaceable child. I don't ever want to think about that, 1771 01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:24.359 you know, about losing one of them. You know, when 1772 01:38:25.279 --> 01:38:27.920 it came close a couple of times where I thought 1773 01:38:27.960 --> 01:38:30.920 that might happen, that was one of the few things 1774 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:35.520 I thought I couldn't deal with at all, Right, et cetera. 1775 01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:39.840 But here's the thing. If somebody took somebody who was 1776 01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:43.479 that important to me, that close to me, that meaningful 1777 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:48.680 to me, am I gonna be any more or less? 1778 01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:55.199 You know, injured, aggrieved, whatever it is you want to 1779 01:38:55.239 --> 01:38:59.199 call it because oh they did that because they decided 1780 01:38:59.239 --> 01:39:04.119 they wanted to kill a white person. That is not 1781 01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:08.640 going to be like, well now I'm more upset. Now 1782 01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:12.479 that makes the crime worse, it doesn't. 1783 01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:15.640 You know, it's it's you know, look at the Charlie Kirk. 1784 01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:19.479 Look at the Charlie Kirk situation. Is that a reverse 1785 01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:22.000 hate crime where the. 1786 01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:24.960 Guy that is now getting ready to go to trial 1787 01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:29.359 over it, could he get less of a punishment because 1788 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.880 he could say, well, Charlie Kirk was spouting hate. You know, 1789 01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:39.119 he hated transgenders and he hated gay people. And it's like, well, 1790 01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:41.359 wait a minute, he didn't hate him, well, but he 1791 01:39:41.520 --> 01:39:46.079 said things that were interpreted as him hating somebody. So 1792 01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:49.840 somebody got offended by that and decided to take him out. 1793 01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.239 So he's really not as guilty as somebody that just 1794 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:54.479 flat out murdered him. 1795 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:56.920 You know, you've got that opposite effect there. 1796 01:39:57.520 --> 01:40:00.880 So does it matter if this guy, if Todler Robinson 1797 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:04.520 has found guilty for killing Jarley Kirk, does it matter 1798 01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:07.439 why he did it? You know, when we get into 1799 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:10.720 the argument of well, now we're into the penalty phase, 1800 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:14.039 so we're going to drag in twenty seven people, and 1801 01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:17.840 half of them are psychologists and the rest are social workers. 1802 01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:21.520 And you know five or six family members that you know, 1803 01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:23.720 the kid had a rough life. You know, the kid 1804 01:40:23.720 --> 01:40:25.039 grew up in a broken home. 1805 01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:27.760 The kid was abused, the. 1806 01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:31.800 Kid was bipolar, he had been you know, in this 1807 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:35.840 case I'm watching today where these two kids tried to 1808 01:40:35.960 --> 01:40:38.640 rob a couple of girls that were walking home from 1809 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:40.319 the movie and there was like three of them in 1810 01:40:40.359 --> 01:40:43.600 a car and one of them had a gun ended 1811 01:40:43.680 --> 01:40:45.760 up shooting one of the girls and she died. 1812 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:47.319 And you hear the. 1813 01:40:47.239 --> 01:40:49.680 Testimony of well, you know, coming up, he went to 1814 01:40:49.720 --> 01:40:53.199 sixteen different schools, you know, because he was being bounced 1815 01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:56.600 around from home to home. Okay, but does that change 1816 01:40:56.640 --> 01:40:58.520 the fact that as a teenager he went out and 1817 01:40:58.600 --> 01:41:00.800 killed another teenager with a gun. 1818 01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:03.039 You know, that doesn't change the fact. 1819 01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:05.560 But well, we shouldn't be as hard on him because 1820 01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:08.520 he had a rough upbringing. I've known people that have 1821 01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:12.800 had the roughest upbringings. You could imagine they were abused 1822 01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:18.800 as kids, they were in a poor situation, the parents 1823 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:23.000 just didn't care and basically caused a lot of the 1824 01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:26.600 issues that the kid had grown up. But you know, 1825 01:41:26.680 --> 01:41:29.600 they admit, hey, I had it rough, but I never 1826 01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:31.359 had it so bad that I would go out and. 1827 01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:32.319 Kill somebody over it. 1828 01:41:32.479 --> 01:41:33.960 Now, the only thing so you can. 1829 01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.039 Get that opposite effect, you know, do we hold somebody 1830 01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:40.439 as culpable if the person that they took out was 1831 01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:44.199 the dregs of society. I've known some very racist people 1832 01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:47.319 in my life, and I'm surprised some of them are 1833 01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:49.279 still alive with some of the stuff that they've done 1834 01:41:49.319 --> 01:41:53.279 over the years. But it doesn't change the fact that 1835 01:41:53.359 --> 01:41:56.760 if someone took them out, you know, you. 1836 01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:59.319 Murdered the guy. Does it matter that he pissed you off? 1837 01:41:59.479 --> 01:41:59.560 No? 1838 01:42:00.159 --> 01:42:03.680 There you go, he no, no, no. Look, we have 1839 01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:06.880 two callers now, by the way, That's why I keep 1840 01:42:06.920 --> 01:42:09.199 trying to jump in, but I want to get to 1841 01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:11.960 both of them. One is Jimmy James and one appears 1842 01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:13.800 to be Danny. So I'm gonna try and get to 1843 01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:16.880 both of them, but just really quickly. The only thing 1844 01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:19.840 that should make a difference there is if you know, look, 1845 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:22.520 let's just say, let's go to the worst possible thing 1846 01:42:22.600 --> 01:42:25.159 that people have said, and oh, well, Charlie Kirk bubba, 1847 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.720 but whatever, Okay, let's just say it was a Nazi. 1848 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:30.039 Let's just say he was a hateful guy and all 1849 01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:36.560 that stuff. If he wasn't directly killing people, or you 1850 01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.479 can't prove to me that, you know, by taking him out, 1851 01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:46.239 suffering was prevented or deaths were prevented. I don't see 1852 01:42:46.279 --> 01:42:50.359 any way to lessen the impact of what the murder is. 1853 01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:52.920 And I'm not saying I'm a fan of the guy 1854 01:42:53.119 --> 01:42:57.600 or anything. I'm simply saying that, just in a direct sense, 1855 01:42:57.760 --> 01:42:59.279 that would be the only way you're gonna get me 1856 01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:01.079 to back off of. Maybe I don't punish you as 1857 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:04.359 harshly because you saved lives or you prevent it suffering 1858 01:43:04.920 --> 01:43:09.880 that was eminent that was occurring currently, you know what 1859 01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:12.439 I mean, Like that would be the only way to 1860 01:43:13.279 --> 01:43:15.399 have me go. You know what, maybe you shouldn't serve 1861 01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:19.359 as much or not at all. But if somebody's just 1862 01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:23.680 spewing propaganda, if somebody's spewing hate speech for real, you 1863 01:43:23.720 --> 01:43:26.319 know what, you don't have the right to kill them. 1864 01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:29.840 It's just that simple, and it's not gonna make it 1865 01:43:29.880 --> 01:43:34.000 any less egregious that you did so period, you know, 1866 01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:38.079 and the reverse is true because you did it because 1867 01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:41.479 you were a hateful person. Yeah, no kidding. So what 1868 01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:46.000 that doesn't change. It doesn't make it lesser, it doesn't 1869 01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:48.000 make it greater. I mean, I could say that some 1870 01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:53.399 people's racism is almost like a mental disorder, but it 1871 01:43:53.439 --> 01:43:56.520 doesn't change the fact that what they did, they were 1872 01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:58.960 sane enough to know right from wrong. That's the end 1873 01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:02.760 of the story, you know. And they took this go, 1874 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:04.880 you know, and they either did it willingly or they 1875 01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:07.039 did it. You know, Listen, Manslaughter is a different thing. 1876 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:11.399 Maybe circumstances happened. You weren't intending to kill somebody, but hey, 1877 01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:15.560 it happened, right, I understand that, and that's a different degree. 1878 01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:19.159 But if you intentionally go and take somebody's life, how 1879 01:44:19.159 --> 01:44:22.560 do you You don't change that with anybody's hate equation. You 1880 01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:25.800 don't change that with anybody's bs about what you went 1881 01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:28.359 through either, because you know what, I can compare notes 1882 01:44:28.399 --> 01:44:31.079 with most of these bastards who try and do that. 1883 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:34.439 I had a bad childhood, and believe me, I'll win 1884 01:44:34.520 --> 01:44:38.439 that contest every time. And even though I've been investigated 1885 01:44:38.479 --> 01:44:40.520 for murder, I've never been convicted, so. 1886 01:44:40.720 --> 01:44:42.960 You know, and. 1887 01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:46.439 Anyway, we'll leave it at that. Let me get to 1888 01:44:46.479 --> 01:44:52.840 the callers bp'te okay, Is that all right with you? Okay? 1889 01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:57.640 So first I'm gonna go to Danny in California. How 1890 01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:01.159 you doing, man, I'm doing okay. 1891 01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:04.359 Just a little update. 1892 01:45:04.479 --> 01:45:08.000 Just got back from a nephew's Little league game that 1893 01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:08.840 was enjoyable. 1894 01:45:09.119 --> 01:45:12.000 Oh cool, Uh, fild. 1895 01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:13.800 Up filled up the car and I think it was 1896 01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:15.560 the six ninety three gallon. 1897 01:45:16.079 --> 01:45:16.600 Yikes. 1898 01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:23.439 Wow, yeah it's in and guess what the roads are full? 1899 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:31.880 So go figure. Yeah, a little bit kind of tagging 1900 01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:34.600 back on what you were talking about, you know, crime. 1901 01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:36.880 I believe that it's equal protection the law. 1902 01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:39.560 Nobody's above the law, nobody's below the law, no matter 1903 01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:42.159 what the circumstances are. If you get a fair trial 1904 01:45:42.199 --> 01:45:46.359 and you're guilty, you suffer the consequences. It's pretty simple 1905 01:45:46.399 --> 01:45:48.720 for me. Most should be when it comes to that. 1906 01:45:48.920 --> 01:45:51.720 Yeah, it should be. But and that's the thing in 1907 01:45:51.800 --> 01:45:56.439 our system, the way it should work. You're correct, right, Yeah. 1908 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.640 But that's where this conversation started, is that me and 1909 01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:04.279 BP said, you know, in principle, not because it's preventative, 1910 01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:09.279 not because it's anything but a correction. I could get 1911 01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:13.840 on board with the death penalty, but my problem is that, Hey, 1912 01:46:13.880 --> 01:46:16.199 I don't want to have the debate anymore. And B 1913 01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:19.720 you know what, I don't trust the system to implement 1914 01:46:21.520 --> 01:46:26.119 in a you know, correct manner. I don't because I've 1915 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:29.079 seen too many mistakes. I've seen too many mistakes where 1916 01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:32.479 people have been wrongly convicted. And you know what, we 1917 01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:35.359 also talked about the swing on the system the other way, 1918 01:46:35.479 --> 01:46:39.560 from front to back. The whole system is simply not trustworthy. 1919 01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:42.399 And BP and I come to the same conclusion where 1920 01:46:42.399 --> 01:46:44.760 it's like, even if you believed, you know what, as 1921 01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:48.279 soon as somebody's convicted, string them up on the courthouse lawn. Okay, 1922 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:52.840 I don't trust the judicial system to make that decision 1923 01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:57.760 in the first place, not with the current circumstances. And 1924 01:46:57.960 --> 01:47:01.319 it's because it'll either be you know, it's unequally applied. 1925 01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:04.960 It just is. And yeah, I know about my conversations 1926 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:07.359 about rich people getting better treatment and everything else, but 1927 01:47:07.520 --> 01:47:12.159 reality again, there is no equal treatment. There is no 1928 01:47:12.359 --> 01:47:17.079 impartiality here. And quite frankly, there's a bunch of you know, 1929 01:47:17.199 --> 01:47:21.479 people in the system who do things that are you know, 1930 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.880 let's just say, not in the interest of justice, whether 1931 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:28.239 they be prosecutors or they be defense attorneys or they 1932 01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:32.279 be judges, or they are individuals who are involved in 1933 01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:36.640 policing that end up twisting things one way or another 1934 01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:40.520 because they have a conclusion in hand and they get 1935 01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:44.640 it done, or they ignore the wrong people. It's a constant, 1936 01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:48.399 you know, misjudgment problem, and it's a little too flawed 1937 01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:53.159 to have such finality as the way it is. So 1938 01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:56.319 I get it, but I'm also tired of debating about 1939 01:47:56.359 --> 01:47:58.960 the morality of it or anything else, you know why, 1940 01:47:59.039 --> 01:48:02.680 because look, we're all going to die someday anyway, and 1941 01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:07.800 quite frankly, you know what, certain circumstances, I don't see 1942 01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:12.520 any problem with you know, this person basically, you know, 1943 01:48:13.119 --> 01:48:17.199 revoked their own right to continue to breathe because they 1944 01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:20.439 are that much of a savage and they need to go. 1945 01:48:21.560 --> 01:48:24.680 And quite frankly, I think it's more humane than imprisonment, 1946 01:48:26.279 --> 01:48:28.279 you know. And I know that's a weird moral stance 1947 01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:32.600 to take, but to me, it's more morally correct to 1948 01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:36.439 simply say, you know what, you've gone to a certain 1949 01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:39.359 level of you don't belong here with the rest of us, 1950 01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:43.479 and we can't ship you out to an isolated island 1951 01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:46.600 where you'll just live and no longer be around regular people. 1952 01:48:47.479 --> 01:48:52.239 So wherever you go, you're a burden, and maybe you 1953 01:48:52.239 --> 01:48:55.960 should just check out early. You know, I don't feel 1954 01:48:55.960 --> 01:48:59.239 bad about that. I don't even though I don't think 1955 01:48:59.279 --> 01:49:01.159 it's right to kill anybody, and I don't want it 1956 01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:06.720 done in my name though. If it's not the proper thing, 1957 01:49:06.840 --> 01:49:09.039 I don't want it done, and then it's a mistake, 1958 01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:12.319 and then it's you know, oops, we discovered. No, I'd 1959 01:49:12.399 --> 01:49:16.640 rather that people weren't put to death. I'd rather people 1960 01:49:16.680 --> 01:49:18.479 walk free. I'm one of those guys, you know, one 1961 01:49:18.560 --> 01:49:20.640 hundred people walks free, so that we don't put one 1962 01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.680 person down, or we don't put one person in prison. Yes, 1963 01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:25.840 I believe that that's the kind of thing we have 1964 01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:31.079 to do. But sadly the system is not trustworthy enough 1965 01:49:31.159 --> 01:49:33.520 in my mind for the finality of the death penalty. 1966 01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:36.920 And you know, in principle, basically, I guess b Pete 1967 01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:38.880 and I came to an agreement about that. I think 1968 01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:40.920 Jimmy James is also on the line. Might have a 1969 01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:44.119 different opinion, but we'd see it. We'll see. What are 1970 01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:46.920 your thoughts though, or would you like to skip this subject? 1971 01:49:46.920 --> 01:49:49.520 Because you know what, either way, I'll be happy because 1972 01:49:49.520 --> 01:49:52.439 again I'm exhausted from this debate to be honest with 1973 01:49:52.479 --> 01:49:53.399 you throughout my life. 1974 01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:57.920 Yeah, go ahead, I can give it a couple of 1975 01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:02.640 highlights of just my personal view. Sure, I can see 1976 01:50:02.640 --> 01:50:06.039 it as a self as in a small scale society, 1977 01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:08.920 you know, community where you don't have a really a 1978 01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:11.479 prison system, but you got a psycho far as like 1979 01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:15.479 for self, you know, like for just self preservation and protection. 1980 01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.079 I can understand it. But in our large scale, complex society, 1981 01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:22.960 we do have too many flaws. So I saw him 1982 01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:28.640 against capital punishment, and I kind of came to this 1983 01:50:28.720 --> 01:50:31.680 conclusion not as a debate. There was kind of a 1984 01:50:31.680 --> 01:50:34.239 debate here in California, you know, they were kind of 1985 01:50:34.239 --> 01:50:37.039 doing away with the death penalty, and I was probably 1986 01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:39.760 about fifteen reading the Gospel, and it just kind of 1987 01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:44.800 dawned on me that here was the savior I follow, 1988 01:50:45.479 --> 01:50:48.560 and he was put to death and he was innocent. 1989 01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:52.239 So I just kind of had this for a moral. 1990 01:50:52.039 --> 01:50:57.079 Reasonissed against it on that aspect, But I was touched 1991 01:50:57.119 --> 01:50:59.960 with a quick I'll be quick, as I had a 1992 01:51:00.359 --> 01:51:03.279 a cousin. I won't give out the name or anything, 1993 01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:06.640 but he was a special Forces ended up being a 1994 01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:09.920 sheriff and he was killed by his own gun, and 1995 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:13.079 it ended up being a big funeral in a state 1996 01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:15.840 funeral in the state of Washington, and I saw the 1997 01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:19.600 political forces on all sides going out. But it was 1998 01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:22.399 interesting is that in one of the papers I was reading, 1999 01:51:22.439 --> 01:51:25.560 it was the sister the killer that killed my cousin. 2000 01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:30.479 He apologized. She apologized to our family, and. 2001 01:51:31.560 --> 01:51:35.079 It was kind of in my grief, she was trying 2002 01:51:35.119 --> 01:51:38.039 to kind of make the case even though her brother 2003 01:51:38.439 --> 01:51:41.720 was guilty and had a problem with drugs and mental illness, 2004 01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:45.760 he was still loved as a child by a family 2005 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:47.760 and that there was two families who are going to 2006 01:51:47.840 --> 01:51:51.720 be that are devastated by it. So I at that 2007 01:51:51.880 --> 01:51:54.600 moment decided that I got to kind of let that 2008 01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:57.600 go where I have still some family that still would 2009 01:51:57.600 --> 01:52:01.399 like to see him put to death, and I can't 2010 01:52:01.439 --> 01:52:03.520 make that decision for them, but I understand how they 2011 01:52:03.560 --> 01:52:05.119 feel that makes. 2012 01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:07.079 Sense well right, And to me, the reason why I 2013 01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:11.119 say it's more humane though, to actually just follow through 2014 01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:13.800 on a fairly speedy death penalty if you have a 2015 01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:18.119 reliable system, I believe, is because look, if you're imprisoned, 2016 01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:22.479 you know you're basically sentenced to a walking death. If 2017 01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:25.279 you're never going to walk out of there alive because 2018 01:52:25.479 --> 01:52:30.600 your family eventually abandons you. You know, you have nothing 2019 01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:34.600 else but the institution, and whether you were wrongly or 2020 01:52:34.680 --> 01:52:38.000 rightly convicted, you're in a state of limbo for the 2021 01:52:38.039 --> 01:52:42.479 rest of your life, where you're in a box, you know, maybe, 2022 01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:46.000 And to me, that is a whole lot more tortuous 2023 01:52:46.319 --> 01:52:50.239 and rough on an individual than simply putting them down. 2024 01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:54.039 I really feel that way, you know, because look, I 2025 01:52:54.039 --> 01:52:56.159 believe in an afterlife and I believe in all that. 2026 01:52:56.319 --> 01:53:00.000 So therefore you'd be setting them free and letting them 2027 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:02.760 go back to being something better than what they were here. 2028 01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:09.840 You know, in philosophical terms, you're doing the more righteous thing. Now, 2029 01:53:09.880 --> 01:53:12.239 I understand where your position comes from, but I'm just 2030 01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:14.119 saying that, you know, you and I did for here, 2031 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:20.600 But you understand where I'm coming from that quite honestly exactly. 2032 01:53:20.640 --> 01:53:23.359 If you're incarcerated for the rest of your life, you know, 2033 01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:26.680 how fair is that? And also, you know, think about 2034 01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:29.479 stuff like this, Sir Hans, Sir Han, who's allegedly the 2035 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:34.239 killer of you know, Bobby Kennedy in nineteen sixty eight, right, 2036 01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:38.039 the guy is in prison longer than you know, people 2037 01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:42.760 have committed three murders on three separate occasions already, and 2038 01:53:42.800 --> 01:53:44.880 he would have been let out had the governor not 2039 01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:48.640 decided to keep him in there, you know. I mean, 2040 01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:52.439 I'm just saying, you know, we don't have equality here 2041 01:53:52.479 --> 01:53:57.560 because that was for political reasons, et cetera. And you know, 2042 01:53:57.600 --> 01:53:59.960 and the family even had mixed feelings about that, where 2043 01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:01.600 it's like some wanted to let him go. And I'm 2044 01:54:01.600 --> 01:54:03.439 not trying to get into a debate about it. I'm 2045 01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:08.039 just saying that after a while, you know, there's also 2046 01:54:08.199 --> 01:54:10.800 that element of it, how long does somebody sit there 2047 01:54:10.840 --> 01:54:12.840 and if they're gonna you know, die in there like 2048 01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:15.560 Manson and they get claimed by you know, a grand 2049 01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:20.520 nephew three months later, you know, you're talking about a 2050 01:54:20.520 --> 01:54:24.000 burden and something that's more macab than anything when you 2051 01:54:24.119 --> 01:54:27.800 send somebody to that living death of incarceration. Anyway, Danny, 2052 01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:29.560 I want to get to Jimmy James real quick, and 2053 01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:31.680 I'm sorry, but let me keep you on the line 2054 01:54:31.720 --> 01:54:36.399 and get a final word from you before we go. Okay, okay, 2055 01:54:36.439 --> 01:54:39.319 thank you, excellent, Danny. Hang On, Let's see if Jimmy 2056 01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:41.439 James wants to chime in here. He was in such 2057 01:54:41.479 --> 01:54:43.720 a good mood. I hope it didn't change because we 2058 01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.920 wound up talking about a dark subject. But Jimmy, you're 2059 01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:48.880 back on and I don't know where you went, but 2060 01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:50.840 you were just like a little bit of static and 2061 01:54:50.920 --> 01:54:53.840 no voice at all before. Are you okay? 2062 01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:54.039 Now? 2063 01:54:54.199 --> 01:54:59.840 Like your phone's good? Oh yeah, there you are? 2064 01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:03.560 Yep. 2065 01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:09.000 Well, first, kept the punishment. I think it should only 2066 01:55:09.079 --> 01:55:13.960 be carried out when it's absolutely there's no doubt about it. 2067 01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:18.840 I mean, these characters, they're on video cameras can fast. 2068 01:55:19.840 --> 01:55:23.640 I mean, there's no reason to keep these people alive 2069 01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:30.119 when it's certain DNA and everything else. So when they're 2070 01:55:30.319 --> 01:55:38.239 absolutely guilty of capital murder, then but everyone else and 2071 01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:43.960 there's not physical evidence in particular, I'm kind of a 2072 01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:50.399 little funny on that. But and other than that, Danny, Hey, Danny, 2073 01:55:50.880 --> 01:55:56.119 I'm in California. Man, what's going on? Is everyone celebrating 2074 01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:56.640 may Day? 2075 01:55:59.119 --> 01:56:01.880 Well? You want me to put him on so he 2076 01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:10.279 can answer himself about may Day? Oh yeah, I thought, yeah, yeah, okay, Well, no, 2077 01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:12.279 Usually I put only one to be on at a time, 2078 01:56:12.439 --> 01:56:14.159 just to keep down on the noise. But here, here's 2079 01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:18.079 Danny and uh so, so Danny, are they celebrating May 2080 01:56:18.159 --> 01:56:22.079 Day in Commifornia? Is I think Jimmy's question, I. 2081 01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:27.720 Am celebrating International Workers Day. You know, I appreciate that 2082 01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:31.039 after eight hours, I get over time, and I got 2083 01:56:31.039 --> 01:56:34.720 a weekend and all those lessons. Yeah, I'm glad that 2084 01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:38.920 Jimmy brought up maybe the International Workers Date. No, I 2085 01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:42.359 think everybody's too busy to to They take everything for 2086 01:56:42.439 --> 01:56:46.439 granted that the labor movement has done well. 2087 01:56:46.439 --> 01:56:48.640 There you go. I mean, look, there's lots of different 2088 01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:51.520 ways to look at it. And uh, you know, as 2089 01:56:51.520 --> 01:56:53.640 far as what Jimmy James said about the death penalty, 2090 01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:55.520 though I agree with that as well. You know, there 2091 01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:59.439 are certain circumstances where, you know, what, if it's like 2092 01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:03.640 pretty much ironclad, why the hell do these guys get like, 2093 01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:07.159 you know, twenty extra years to sit around. I mean, 2094 01:57:07.680 --> 01:57:11.039 you know, I agree with giving them a last meal 2095 01:57:11.159 --> 01:57:14.319 and all that, but there's got to be a way 2096 01:57:14.359 --> 01:57:16.640 to streamline this so that it's like, listen, you know, 2097 01:57:16.760 --> 01:57:19.720 you're one of these cases where we know you did this. 2098 01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:22.800 There's no way in hell that you know, this could 2099 01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:26.159 all be fabricated or there's got to be a standard 2100 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:29.880 there where you could sort of know you're the circumstance 2101 01:57:29.920 --> 01:57:33.159 that you know, meets all the criteria to get this done. 2102 01:57:33.399 --> 01:57:38.079 You know, speedy trial and speedy enforcement of punishment as well. 2103 01:57:39.079 --> 01:57:41.560 You should have a right to both. And again, I 2104 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.359 just feel as though that's morally more sound than making 2105 01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:47.840 somebody wait around for twenty years and also wait up 2106 01:57:47.880 --> 01:57:50.560 to their execution day and get a stay of execution 2107 01:57:50.720 --> 01:57:53.840 and all this other nonsense. You see. You know, people 2108 01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:56.640 go on for decades in there and die waiting for 2109 01:57:56.680 --> 01:58:01.000 the death penalty. You know, what kind of sense does 2110 01:58:01.039 --> 01:58:05.760 that make? You know, in a civilized society, Daddy, what 2111 01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:06.760 are your thoughts there? 2112 01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:12.479 Like I, like I said, I where I'm where I'm 2113 01:58:12.520 --> 01:58:17.079 per sallym for moll reasons opposed to it that I 2114 01:58:17.159 --> 01:58:20.920 do understand the argument that you know, have an absolute evidence, 2115 01:58:21.319 --> 01:58:25.399 especially say in a small skill society or community for 2116 01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:28.520 actual self defense, and that that kind of I can 2117 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:31.520 I can understand that moral argument that makes sense. 2118 01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:34.079 Yeah, no, of course, But I mean when you've got 2119 01:58:34.079 --> 01:58:36.760 a guy who has you know, there are cases I've 2120 01:58:36.760 --> 01:58:40.279 seen where these guys don't even want the appeals and 2121 01:58:40.680 --> 01:58:43.680 they do it anyway, you know, where it's like if 2122 01:58:43.720 --> 01:58:47.199 the guy voluntarily of sound mind says, listen, get this 2123 01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:52.319 over with. I see no reason to delay it, you know, 2124 01:58:52.399 --> 01:58:54.439 And in some cases they are like, no, you got 2125 01:58:54.439 --> 01:58:58.359 to go through these mandatory appeals and so on and 2126 01:58:58.399 --> 01:59:01.199 so forth, and I don't know. To me, it just 2127 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:04.560 seems like a gigantic waste of resources that could be 2128 01:59:04.560 --> 01:59:08.880 directed elsewhere, you know, on people that have surrendered and 2129 01:59:09.399 --> 01:59:12.760 even themselves have decided, you know what, I'm a bad guy. 2130 01:59:12.800 --> 01:59:15.520 I need to go. I've seen it, you know, some 2131 01:59:15.600 --> 01:59:17.680 of these interviews where a guy seems pretty much a 2132 01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:20.720 sound mind saying, look, I know I messed up and 2133 01:59:20.760 --> 01:59:23.199 I got to pay for it, but you know, let's go. 2134 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:28.000 You know. I mean in a case where like Caroline 2135 01:59:28.439 --> 01:59:30.920 Morenos or whatever her name was, you know, where she 2136 01:59:31.039 --> 01:59:33.319 was screaming about it. You know, Okay, I get it. 2137 01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:36.920 That's somebody who's obviously got mental issues and might not 2138 01:59:37.079 --> 01:59:40.760 in a sane way make that same request. But I mean, 2139 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:43.119 if you're basically sitting there going, look, I know I 2140 01:59:43.199 --> 01:59:46.640 messed up, I did this, and yeah you got me. 2141 01:59:46.880 --> 01:59:51.039 Evidence is all there, what is the delay about, you know, 2142 01:59:51.920 --> 01:59:54.399 firing squad or otherwise at the end of the day, 2143 01:59:54.439 --> 01:59:56.399 as long as it's a fairly efficient way. 2144 01:59:57.439 --> 01:59:57.680 You know. 2145 01:59:58.199 --> 02:00:01.079 Again, I don't know. Look, you can draw this line 2146 02:00:01.119 --> 02:00:03.199 a lot of different ways, but still I don't trust 2147 02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:06.359 the system as it stands. And it sounds like we 2148 02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:11.359 all kind of can agree on that at least. Anyways, Jimmy, 2149 02:00:11.960 --> 02:00:14.119 did did you? Did you want to add anything else? 2150 02:00:14.159 --> 02:00:16.680 Because we got to now close out real quick here. 2151 02:00:17.000 --> 02:00:19.039 I want to give Jimmy a last word and Danny 2152 02:00:19.039 --> 02:00:21.640 a last word because Aaron is coming up and I'm 2153 02:00:21.640 --> 02:00:23.880 really cutting into his time now by about a minute. 2154 02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:26.159 So go ahead, Jimmy, you got a last word. 2155 02:00:29.399 --> 02:00:31.119 I have a good weekend piece. 2156 02:00:31.800 --> 02:00:34.920 There you go, and I appreciate that. Jimmy short sweet 2157 02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:38.479 and of course, ending on the word piece, Danny, how about. 2158 02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:43.159 You, I want to I want to give a shout 2159 02:00:43.159 --> 02:00:46.479 out thanks for Jimmy James for making me smile, because 2160 02:00:46.479 --> 02:00:48.359 that was one of the topics that I would get to, 2161 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:51.479 is about May Day and International Workers Day, and I 2162 02:00:51.560 --> 02:00:56.439 appreciate that everybody that works there's digny in their work 2163 02:00:56.600 --> 02:00:58.920 and in their labor, so I appreciate it, and I 2164 02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:01.680 agree with Jimmy. Peace in this world. 2165 02:01:02.279 --> 02:01:05.000 True enough, and I'll tell you something labor or not. 2166 02:01:06.159 --> 02:01:10.520 You know, most human beings that I encounter, unless you know, again, 2167 02:01:11.079 --> 02:01:12.960 they have decided to act in such a way where 2168 02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:17.880 they have personally revoked their desire to you know, participate 2169 02:01:17.920 --> 02:01:20.279 in society. I think we all deserve some level of 2170 02:01:20.359 --> 02:01:25.880 dignity and decency, you know, regardless of our past and 2171 02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:29.600 so on and so forth. But but then again, you know, 2172 02:01:29.680 --> 02:01:32.560 there are characters who have done horrible enough things that 2173 02:01:33.319 --> 02:01:36.159 you know, maybe that's enough. Slack is all I got 2174 02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:38.720 to say. Be Pete, you got a final word for 2175 02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:39.159 the week. 2176 02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:43.319 Well, I just appreciate Danny and Jimmy calling in. 2177 02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:46.199 Go to a chelly dot com, hit the donate button, 2178 02:01:46.279 --> 02:01:50.079 do its camstick, crowbar, and your wallet every little bit else. 2179 02:01:50.920 --> 02:01:53.760 It sure would. And you know what, the food banks 2180 02:01:53.800 --> 02:01:55.880 and all that, I know, they're running bear in a 2181 02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:59.560 lot of places. And you know I recently went and 2182 02:01:59.640 --> 02:02:02.720 tried to get something and they didn't have anything left 2183 02:02:02.760 --> 02:02:06.920 here and making so you know, that's another thing to consider, 2184 02:02:07.079 --> 02:02:09.760 is like, you know, I don't want to help out Chuck, Okay, 2185 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:14.359 help somebody out do that, you know, I get it. 2186 02:02:14.479 --> 02:02:17.560 But going forward, I am going to require some help 2187 02:02:17.720 --> 02:02:20.520 from some of you out there more than just the 2188 02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:23.000 people that are close the people that call into this show, 2189 02:02:23.039 --> 02:02:26.399 and my co host would be nice, you know, just 2190 02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:30.840 saying you know, cause uh look, I'm getting squeezed like 2191 02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:33.239 everybody else, and I'd like to be able to continue 2192 02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:35.680 to do this and do more for you as a 2193 02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:39.199 presenter of information and a creator of content. Coming up 2194 02:02:39.239 --> 02:02:42.399 next on o'keelly dot com is the Age of Transitions 2195 02:02:42.399 --> 02:02:44.479 with Aaron Franz. I have no idea what that show 2196 02:02:44.520 --> 02:02:46.920 is going to be like, and maybe he doesn't either, 2197 02:02:47.039 --> 02:02:50.520 but what the hell, let's get it done. And until 2198 02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:54.880 next week, definitely I am merely o'celly. All of you 2199 02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:58.439 could be the effect, and I'm definitely gonna do some 2200 02:02:58.439 --> 02:03:01.359 short attention span DJ theater coming up, and definitely check 2201 02:03:01.359 --> 02:03:05.920 out the podcast from Larry Hancock on Wednesday about the 2202 02:03:05.920 --> 02:03:08.920 War Powers Act. I think that was a hell of 2203 02:03:08.960 --> 02:03:11.960 a good discussion as well, and who knows, maybe we 2204 02:03:12.039 --> 02:03:15.520 have some more coming up this coming week. 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