Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? Why you don't ever
Speaker 1: play with my nipples? I got nipples too. It's my
Speaker 1: turn to get tied up knocking headcuts though I got PTSD.
Speaker 1: Welcome the hardest soft where men speak. So hopefully somebody
Speaker 1: will understand when you say freaky? What's what's freaky?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What do you mean by freaky? If I do this,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna tell your friends? Right? Or for women?
Speaker 3: Vibrator was it was like or something.
Speaker 4: It was just like a fruit or.
Speaker 1: A vegetable, and is it dries it out.
Speaker 5: And put angry bees in there? I mean they are mad.
Speaker 5: These bees is hungry.
Speaker 3: They want to get out this thing.
Speaker 5: And then she just puts this big old thing there.
Speaker 3: And they're just going crazy.
Speaker 5: And I was like, if you are a.
Speaker 3: Woman who creates the first vibrator out of and you're
Speaker 3: not scared.
Speaker 4: One one, it's gonna come out.
Speaker 2: And that tells me though, that men didn't know what
Speaker 2: they was doing, bad Danny, that.
Speaker 3: She had to figure out how to please, She had.
Speaker 1: To figure all this power listen hold on first.
Speaker 5: I wanted to know that, huh, I said, And we're.
Speaker 1: Here, yeah, but how horny do y'all be. I know
Speaker 1: y'all talked about us.
Speaker 5: This is ancient.
Speaker 3: Don't put me your dad. Yeah, nothing to do with
Speaker 3: no bees. I'm allergic blow up and die if.
Speaker 1: You put a bee. You don't want to think anybody
Speaker 1: it's stung by being in the vagina.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's gonna blow up.
Speaker 3: Going out this show.
Speaker 1: But who's like, who does that? How horney y'all got
Speaker 1: to be to put a bunch of bees.
Speaker 3: It's like the hot dogs and the ones when they
Speaker 3: when they freeze the hot dogs and put the hot
Speaker 3: was in the Huh, you ain't never.
Speaker 5: Heard that word?
Speaker 1: You did what?
Speaker 3: I didn't do that did what? That's what they have done.
Speaker 3: They put hot dogs or sausages and freezer freezer and no,
Speaker 3: you know what, No, you ain't never heard that.
Speaker 1: Just what is it? Why did it need to be cold?
Speaker 3: But that's that's a that's a thing, right, the temperature.
Speaker 3: See you said I could see that. That means you
Speaker 3: put your glass do door in the freezer, don't you?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: I don't. Why not? I don't have a glass deal dough,
Speaker 5: I have a plastic one.
Speaker 3: You gotta get a glass one.
Speaker 1: No, No, we were talking in the discord. M and
Speaker 1: the ladies were saying, the difference between the strap and
Speaker 1: the man is the warmth. Yes, that you can feel
Speaker 1: the warmth of the man through his penis.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 1: So why would you need a cold one? Why would
Speaker 1: you specifically? Why am I put it in the microwave?
Speaker 3: Because that's the temperature. Some people like temperature play where
Speaker 3: they don't want it?
Speaker 1: Who wants cold, Dick? I don't want no cold?
Speaker 3: I mean if they if they, you know, people are
Speaker 3: we like you know what's that? I can't remember? But
Speaker 3: they like the body.
Speaker 5: Bodies.
Speaker 3: I want to say it wrong, I don't say.
Speaker 1: I don't really think that's about it being cold. I
Speaker 1: think that's just about you being But.
Speaker 3: There is that's a temperature. One is one too God?
Speaker 1: Can we can we admit that some kings you should shame?
Speaker 5: No, for sure that that's what you said.
Speaker 3: We shamed something on Temple of be for you, it's
Speaker 3: called is this like us like we have a whole
Speaker 3: segment with some of.
Speaker 1: The kinks that deserve to be shamed.
Speaker 5: Well, you just named one.
Speaker 1: That's that's not that's not it's not. I'm not giving
Speaker 1: space for that. Because where do you even find a
Speaker 1: dead body? How did you figure that out?
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 3: So there's a plaque, don't know where it's at, but
Speaker 3: there is this plaque of this Amazonian woman who under
Speaker 3: her plaque her under the plank. It talks about how
Speaker 3: Achilles he killed her, but he found her body so irresistible.
Speaker 3: He seduced her dead body. So like, yes, they do that.
Speaker 1: You got words mean things.
Speaker 5: Exactly, That's what I said. I was like, what do
Speaker 5: you mean she he seduced her.
Speaker 1: Body? Like what did he do? Like did he like
Speaker 1: put baby, what did you do.
Speaker 5: On a decomposing body? That off? Like what are we
Speaker 5: talking about?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: He might he probably took his sword to her skin
Speaker 3: and grace episode.
Speaker 5: The one that feels is yes, absolutely yes, absolutely not.
Speaker 3: We're talking about Troy. I don't want exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't want cold titties like.
Speaker 3: One cold everything to be alive.
Speaker 5: I think. I like, I'm not a huge fan of
Speaker 5: temperature play unless we're putting the temperature up. You don't
Speaker 5: like to be gold. I don't like to be cold.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if a glass dil dough would
Speaker 5: so ice.
Speaker 1: Cubes on it? Like you know, what was it? A
Speaker 1: white white man can't jump? Oh, yeah, put the ice
Speaker 1: cubes on rosie titties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember was that white man can drop or
Speaker 3: jungle fever might have been jungle fever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd rather wax same.
Speaker 3: I rather nice flu coming off.
Speaker 5: Shout out to heat.
Speaker 1: Hm, who the fuck man? Yo? Shirt? How do you
Speaker 1: deal with this?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Okay, we got angry bees in a bag, you got
Speaker 1: cold hot dogs.
Speaker 5: But we were talking about kings that should be shamed, shamed,
Speaker 5: and so what give me some more? Yeah, give us
Speaker 5: some more.
Speaker 3: I think anything where I think the one that should
Speaker 3: be always shame. It's like if people who try to
Speaker 3: bring in the kink of really age play where it's
Speaker 3: real extreme different in age of who you're attracted to
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff, I.
Speaker 1: Think they pedophilia.
Speaker 3: Yeah that should not.
Speaker 1: So it's not when you're old and you're acting like
Speaker 1: a baby.
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's to each its own. If you
Speaker 3: you know you want your butt, change your stuff. I
Speaker 3: personally have limits.
Speaker 5: As not mine.
Speaker 3: But if they try to make it, I feel like
Speaker 3: they've they've been trying, they've been trying to get into
Speaker 3: the LGBTQ. They've been trying to make it a thing
Speaker 3: like right now, they're trying to do a thing where they're.
Speaker 5: The whole thing of what is it?
Speaker 3: The legislation are trying to pass it to where it's
Speaker 3: looked at as.
Speaker 1: Like a mental illness. I see that, Yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: see that. That's got it's got to be a mental illness.
Speaker 3: I think it's a mental choice and a lot of
Speaker 3: times people lack if if you feel celebrated or feel
Speaker 3: secure in order to do certain things and no one
Speaker 3: calls you out, you're gonna keep doing it right like so,
Speaker 3: I think it's more of that than a mental illness.
Speaker 3: It's easy to hide it behind to a mental illness
Speaker 3: because there's choice in their in their actions. For sure,
Speaker 3: I'm choosing.
Speaker 5: Let's can we get a time stamp on this? Uh taho?
Speaker 5: We need to fix your camera because you have no headroom.
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's the way that you're sitting. I
Speaker 5: don't know where if it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you're getting a little bit more room
Speaker 1: so I can do this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's give him a little bit more to.
Speaker 1: Go over there there. You're the person she's talking to.
Speaker 5: I don't know how, I don't know how.
Speaker 1: To work a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Hi, guys, I don't know where the camera is for.
Speaker 5: Y'all can see.
Speaker 3: We about to say right now it was Doe the
Speaker 3: right thing with Rosie provedsed. Okay, thank you you were
Speaker 3: in here in hey, Christine, I hang on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, perfect, here we go. Period, you did the
Speaker 5: right thing.
Speaker 1: Hi, you see, Okay. Necophilia, let's say pedophilia is a king.
Speaker 1: Let's just say, even though I don't think that's a kink,
Speaker 1: I think it's a crime.
Speaker 3: A crime.
Speaker 5: There's no.
Speaker 1: I would challenge you on the illness versus choice because
Speaker 1: it seems that the people who do that have to
Speaker 1: continue doing it. It's like something in them that is
Speaker 1: like they can't avoid. They just keep doing. That's why
Speaker 1: I say, then people got to be like I.
Speaker 3: Think it's the addiction. They can be addicted to the
Speaker 3: adrenaline rush. But to call the choice to deal with
Speaker 3: a child a mental illness, I don't want to do
Speaker 3: that because that's mucky waters. And then what happens is
Speaker 3: then it becomes an excused thing. Yeah, and we continue
Speaker 3: to excuse it when it shouldn't be anything.
Speaker 5: We excuse it all exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay. I respect that it should be looked at as
Speaker 1: a crime.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's.
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to think of some more though that
Speaker 3: will be like maybe there shouldn't be for us. I
Speaker 3: don't shame, shame.
Speaker 1: It's not pet play. It's having sex with animals.
Speaker 3: Dog like, I don't want to.
Speaker 5: Well, the reason why I think it's shameful is because
Speaker 5: they can't give consent. Yeah, they can't give consent, and
Speaker 5: this is just like that's it's not the human experience.
Speaker 5: You can just be having sex with chickens and goats.
Speaker 1: I don't want to joke on it because I could,
Speaker 1: but I'm yes, I'm leaving it alone.
Speaker 7: Cock and the cock, she literally said the cock.
Speaker 1: That might be a title.
Speaker 3: Olanda used to do that cock and the cock.
Speaker 1: Well he had another cop.
Speaker 5: Because you said the chicken and the dial though.
Speaker 1: You know that he would put his dick in.
Speaker 5: Oh and then and then yeah, it was like shame.
Speaker 1: Diesel makes a deal though, where you can put your
Speaker 1: ship in it. Oh and then he would with the
Speaker 1: person with his dick.
Speaker 5: Double COCKU double double costing. Yeah, it's like a go
Speaker 5: go gadget dick, not go go gadget dick.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I don't want to do no
Speaker 1: ship like what she enjoys it more. Now you got
Speaker 1: now you're in your head. What if she's really like
Speaker 1: going and now.
Speaker 5: She wants the go go dick every single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you pull, you pull your real ship out.
Speaker 7: She's like, nah, get go dick.
Speaker 3: I mean, i'm you. Would that be the same if you,
Speaker 3: like if she pulled like your pocket pussy and you
Speaker 3: you smashed it and you really enjoyed it more than
Speaker 3: you enjoy her head? Is that not the same?
Speaker 1: It's it's that's a slippery slope.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's it's almost like.
Speaker 1: With the vibrant. Okay, A lot of women get off
Speaker 1: with the vibrator versus the penetration. So does that mean
Speaker 1: that she enjoys the vibrat or more.
Speaker 3: Now she just wants her pleasure. I think that it's
Speaker 3: about pleasure. Let the pleasure happen whatever however we get off,
Speaker 3: we get off.
Speaker 1: Well, then I take that back to what you said
Speaker 1: about the stroker. Yeah, I like the stroker. That doesn't
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare it to your head or
Speaker 1: compare it to your.
Speaker 3: Don't compare the double cock to.
Speaker 1: Your It's the same thing though, Yeah, see that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's the same, right, it's not a different thing.
Speaker 3: You feel, So that would be lube then maybe if
Speaker 3: using versus not using loop. I'm just sure, but.
Speaker 1: I was using We use gets the butters today, right,
Speaker 1: And it's what I will say, ladies. Can y'all stop
Speaker 1: dry jerking. Don't dry jerk, well for me, don't.
Speaker 3: Dry jerk, y'all. Yes, I like to see it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta see it well, like I like love oiling.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I get it, like I have messed
Speaker 3: up one of those swash blankets because I use so
Speaker 3: much oil. I just like the oil.
Speaker 1: And right, but there be times where the oil is
Speaker 1: just not right there. Right, So you're getting toy, you're
Speaker 1: watching a movie or something, and y'all just start touching. What, No,
Speaker 1: don't spin on my ship no more I do.
Speaker 5: Put on my mouth, put it in my mouth real quick?
Speaker 1: What okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, give some hand, have it in your mouth. Get
Speaker 3: that going. And then when you get that good, you
Speaker 3: go real good. And then that's slava guns cooking and
Speaker 3: you get real slick. That's when you can go and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: I already.
Speaker 1: Know what this one. So I used to be our
Speaker 1: tour manager. She will help us. But she also is
Speaker 1: a member of our discord right, this is Madam said.
Speaker 1: She started coming to our play parties with her husband, Yes, right,
Speaker 1: and then started working with me behind the scenes. She's
Speaker 1: an active member of our discord community.
Speaker 8: The Navy Navy, I get that.
Speaker 5: She said, I don't even know we had gang son.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I'm gonna do that. That's when I'm like
Speaker 3: that though. If I get involved in something real community, No,
Speaker 3: it's just like it's not a sign for y'all's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: shut up, like gang gang energy, like gang gang.
Speaker 1: You have to I want to go back. So we
Speaker 1: were talking, so I used to hear Madam say, is
Speaker 1: some of that some of y'all know her shout out
Speaker 1: to my new chair. Look at this snuff snuffle up
Speaker 1: a dick.
Speaker 5: Snuffle up a dick. Okay, I want to write that
Speaker 5: on the bank.
Speaker 1: I want to know historically who's more horny men and women?
Speaker 3: I think women are, and we just don't share it.
Speaker 1: How can we say, how can we prove that? How
Speaker 1: can you give me some facts too?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 5: All I know is that once I hit thirty. After
Speaker 5: I hit thirty, things just when.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a hormonal it's really we be trying
Speaker 3: to hump, like if you think about it, Like I know,
Speaker 3: I'm honest with myself. I was the girlfriend who would
Speaker 3: sneak you in the back, like, come on, let's touch
Speaker 3: it real quick.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do a little something real quick, just
Speaker 3: because I gotta. I want to feel it. I want
Speaker 3: to feel my bean jump. What my bean jump?
Speaker 1: No, I want to feel your being jump.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good feeling. It's like a thump
Speaker 5: and it's like, oh, especially when you know you're about
Speaker 5: to get it, or it's like a it's building up,
Speaker 5: and it's like it's.
Speaker 3: Basically the equivalent of when y'all did get real hard.
Speaker 3: Because I watched my bean get hurt, and I've also
Speaker 3: watched stick get hard, and I'm like, look, I got
Speaker 3: like a little dick.
Speaker 1: You just said that. Look I got a little thing.
Speaker 1: That's not something I want. I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want my girls saying that I'm good. It would
Speaker 1: be you can keep to yourself.
Speaker 5: I promise you would laughing.
Speaker 1: I would laugh, But I want my I want some bussy, right,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be thinking about you having a
Speaker 1: little disk. Sure you good. So I was saying earlier
Speaker 1: that get the Butter's thing is amazing. Shout out to
Speaker 1: get the butters. Go into our description. If you have
Speaker 1: not tried it. If you have, you ain't feel it. Whatever, fine,
Speaker 1: I personally love it.
Speaker 3: I love it too.
Speaker 1: We use it today. There's something about slippery box. When
Speaker 1: you could you start like, for one, dry box ain't
Speaker 1: no more than dry dick. Like, yo, don't dry jerker either.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Once that ship yo, once,
Speaker 1: like you said, that ship moved up and she got
Speaker 1: me and that she goes but you and her ship
Speaker 1: going crazy with the Oh oh my god, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it well.
Speaker 5: I did use get the butters recently. I've started. I
Speaker 5: masturbated for the first time in a couple back, and
Speaker 5: I've masturbated this past couple of days, and I used
Speaker 5: to get the butters. When I tell you that orgasm
Speaker 5: was so intense because I haven't done it in so long.
Speaker 5: I had to sit there and I was like this,
Speaker 5: like like rocking because it was so intense. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: we gotta do this. Again, that's what it is.
Speaker 3: It's like start kick starting an engine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, still not having sex.
Speaker 1: But I told you she's talking. Man, She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.
Speaker 5: I'm telling y'all it's really that being.
Speaker 1: Let that be the right nigga.
Speaker 5: Let the bean jump to myself.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I mad. I love making my bean jump
Speaker 3: for me. It's my fai.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite what's your favorite way to make the
Speaker 1: bean jump? It's your favorite form of self pleasure?
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Yeah, because it's when I'm in a shower. When
Speaker 3: I'm in a shower, I really get in a zone
Speaker 3: in there and I'll start washing my body like I go.
Speaker 3: I have hand gloves, so it's like a lot of
Speaker 3: me touching on me and then I'll do that wash first,
Speaker 3: and then I have a wash that I do with
Speaker 3: a scented soap that's just my hands, and I always
Speaker 3: end up choking myself. And if I choke me, I'm
Speaker 3: fucking me.
Speaker 5: M Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Nah yo, she's the monic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 3: I got a couple. I got quite a few of them.
Speaker 1: Thinking of some other ship because you mentioned rubbing yourself
Speaker 1: down with the gloves and I just realized, oh shit,
Speaker 1: you already know.
Speaker 5: Oh damn te doing that on here.
Speaker 1: At my birthday party, they had all of these women
Speaker 1: jump on me. Right, I'm suspended in the air, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, as I'm getting head as these
Speaker 1: women are touching all on me, kissing me, I feel
Speaker 1: this all right, fucking breaking of my skin, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Somebody was like, hey, I'm look over and these these
Speaker 1: fucking gloves with these points on them, and somebody is
Speaker 1: just like scratching this ship out, and I think it
Speaker 1: was you.
Speaker 3: I was on your back. I was on your back
Speaker 3: with the vampire. I had the vampire gloves on your back,
Speaker 3: and you turned and you looked at me and you said,
Speaker 3: who is that?
Speaker 1: Why the fuck are you doing that? The people?
Speaker 5: And first of all, I tried it on me first
Speaker 5: and it was good.
Speaker 3: You choke yourself though, I know titties, and it was fine.
Speaker 5: I like vampire gloves.
Speaker 3: I like them.
Speaker 5: I think I want to get myself in here.
Speaker 1: Do you know which one I'm talking about?
Speaker 5: Yes? Because I have them. Because when you when y'all
Speaker 5: had your kings and kicks and kings and links.
Speaker 3: Jesus whatever, kings and drinks.
Speaker 5: The person one of the rooms. This person was working
Speaker 5: with vampire gloves, and I remember feeling it and I
Speaker 5: was like, I want those.
Speaker 3: It is amazing. It's pins, its pens.
Speaker 7: Yes, why would you?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: Who just uses No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I've been waiting to defend this right
Speaker 3: because it is the thing. This is when you bite
Speaker 3: off more than you could chew. So the shame on
Speaker 3: you for saying. He said, what we were instructed was
Speaker 3: all the toys in here an if you have something,
Speaker 3: if you were given something, you can use it on Tahoe.
Speaker 3: Every all the ladies come up. Okay, I had the gloves.
Speaker 3: They told me I could use it on you. I
Speaker 3: thought you were aware that this was happening and that
Speaker 3: you had consented to all that would go Do you
Speaker 3: know what? Let me go ahead and Amazon right now
Speaker 3: and get me if anybody want to give me some
Speaker 3: vampire When I was go ahead and do that, you
Speaker 3: didn't have it. Yeah, those was somebody.
Speaker 1: Else, somebody else's.
Speaker 3: Now I wish they were mine.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, no, that's mine.
Speaker 1: What is the sensation that comes with vampire gloves? What?
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to be feeling? So? What what
Speaker 1: if a person wants that, right, vampire gloves scratching it?
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 5: I didn't you don't don't go so deep on me.
Speaker 5: Don't go deep on me.
Speaker 3: But if you if you're.
Speaker 5: Hovering over my skin, I like that feeling of just
Speaker 5: like the bear touch of something sharp going across me.
Speaker 5: But you don't have to like And that's what that's
Speaker 5: where I will say.
Speaker 3: I have already apologized, and I'll do it again right here.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sorry because I like a little squeeze.
Speaker 3: Let me feel it, let me know you there, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And so I thought he was
Speaker 3: like in the squeeze, and what was happening was I
Speaker 3: was excited. Everybody was doing stuff to him and he
Speaker 3: was moving and I'm like, yeah, I didn't know my
Speaker 3: own strength. So my baby, my babe, I said, my bad.
Speaker 3: I said my bad, Like two years ago, you did,
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: But I just remembered, if you, if you're the one
Speaker 1: choking yourself in the goddamn shower, you're also the one
Speaker 1: that's raking somebody with something.
Speaker 5: I didn't raak you though I didn't do the raking.
Speaker 3: That wasn't me, because no, I put I just touched
Speaker 3: your back like this and touched a little bit and
Speaker 3: then I moved because you said, who is that? And
Speaker 3: I said that sounds about Somebody said, Courtney, what's your
Speaker 3: favorite form of self pleasure?
Speaker 5: I would have to say if we go in, like,
Speaker 5: what's always going to get me there?
Speaker 3: My hand always, always, my hand is always going to
Speaker 3: get me really yes, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: I know for sure that my hand is going to
Speaker 5: get there. Vibrad is gonna take a little bit longer
Speaker 5: for me, but my hands. Oh yeah, what's the movement?
Speaker 1: What's the hand movement for me?
Speaker 5: It's this.
Speaker 1: Wait so down and up so it's like pushing it in,
Speaker 1: pushing the head in, pushing like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mineus. I get in between the clip and massage
Speaker 3: here first like that, and then my little button is
Speaker 3: right underneath yourself. I want to make my I go right,
Speaker 3: it's not even right inside, it's like right outside and
Speaker 3: it's like this, I do that.
Speaker 5: See I don't even penetrate myself when I do know,
Speaker 5: I just is this not a.
Speaker 1: Thing, because this is what you see in where you
Speaker 1: like flap it side.
Speaker 3: I mean for me to eat just own not me
Speaker 3: fricker friget no, we don't need to scratch the record.
Speaker 3: I don't need the record. Literally and literally you'll feel
Speaker 3: the like the waters will flow as you move. You
Speaker 3: get wet and it's like a little button and you
Speaker 3: hear it and you feel it and you just keep
Speaker 3: rolling and then you come. Because I don't like women
Speaker 3: go oh, like, first of all, I'm getting dry, you
Speaker 3: know for me, I know the woman, yes, but for
Speaker 3: me if I'm squirting and you that's like, oh, that
Speaker 3: adds like a like a sensations.
Speaker 1: So how would you if I'm in the moment right
Speaker 1: say you was playing with somebody and they're doing it wrong.
Speaker 1: How do you tell them what they're doing is not
Speaker 1: working without ruining the moon?
Speaker 3: How did I know this was going to be a conversation?
Speaker 1: I just want to go.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say anything per se to them. I would
Speaker 3: kind of like guide myself. I do that, like I'll
Speaker 3: guide myself to you and then hold head nicely right.
Speaker 5: There like that.
Speaker 1: But what if I'm flapping?
Speaker 3: Oh, if you flapping, then I hold your hand and
Speaker 3: then I'll guide it like I would nicely guide you
Speaker 3: to please me. But then we have a conversation, Yes
Speaker 3: we did, and I said, then it after that happened,
Speaker 3: after multiple times of attempting, you took it far. And
Speaker 3: I said, at some point you have to sit down
Speaker 3: and have a conversation. Let's talk, okay, because if I've
Speaker 3: done all of that and you still don't get it, bro,
Speaker 3: we don't need to do anything right And I stared
Speaker 3: doing that at some point we will have to have
Speaker 3: a conversation if you can.
Speaker 1: And I said, let's talk. Is that that's hard, that's harsh.
Speaker 1: We need to have she did. She didn't say let's talk.
Speaker 1: She said we need to have a conversation.
Speaker 3: That right there, scar Let me this after if I've
Speaker 3: already tried to like quote you, we've already talked, We've
Speaker 3: already like, we have to have a serious conversation at
Speaker 3: this point because now you aren't considering my pleasure.
Speaker 5: That's okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Right, So a woman comes up to you and
Speaker 1: tells you we need to have a conversation.
Speaker 7: I'm sitting bricks.
Speaker 3: Immediately, you're Aquarius, you want to ship breaks regardless.
Speaker 9: That's hate. But as a man, I'm sitting bricks. I
Speaker 9: think any man anytime we need to talk, have a conversation,
Speaker 9: or or hit me when you get any version of
Speaker 9: that anxiety.
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about your trauma then, because I don't
Speaker 3: have time, right, because what else am I supposed to say?
Speaker 5: That's what I was gonna ask, like, what you how
Speaker 5: do you guys want.
Speaker 3: To hear that, especially if we're talking about if we
Speaker 3: if you want your partner to be direct with you.
Speaker 3: What else am I supposed to say outside of we
Speaker 3: need to have a conversation, because yes, it's that serious.
Speaker 1: I personally, and I think I said this in the chat.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm bringing the firm first.
Speaker 1: Hey, when you do.
Speaker 5: Know I've done that, we're saying, let.
Speaker 1: Me get off, y'all been sitting here, women in the.
Speaker 3: Women in there, going.
Speaker 7: Through there.
Speaker 1: A firm first, yo, I ain't gonna lie when you
Speaker 1: do this. That ship made me feel so good. I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna bus I thought I was gonna bust,
Speaker 1: But when you started going fast, I lost it. If
Speaker 1: you would have just kept it right there, I would
Speaker 1: have fucking lost it. Now I know without you making
Speaker 1: me feel like I did something wrong, You're giving me
Speaker 1: something to chase. Now you're saying I was almost there.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, let's do it again. I'm gonna do it
Speaker 1: just how you just said it, because you're giving. Now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna what I need from it, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: get what you need from it. It's less condescending. But
Speaker 1: need to have a talk. We need to have a conversation,
Speaker 1: we need to sit down.
Speaker 3: But see, that's the thing. Remember because in that conversation
Speaker 3: I said to you, then all of those things already happened.
Speaker 3: So if all of that happened, I've affirmed you. I
Speaker 3: have tried to show you. I've even I had one nigga.
Speaker 3: I ate a pussy for them.
Speaker 5: This is how you ate it.
Speaker 1: What I had.
Speaker 3: He was like a friend of mine. We were kind
Speaker 3: of smash chicks, but he didn't really he was you know,
Speaker 3: and I had to eat eat you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I didn't have to, but she was.
Speaker 5: You wanted to.
Speaker 3: That's what I happened, like to show him, like you know,
Speaker 3: this is this is I said, this is how I
Speaker 3: like it. He hit that one, caught the drift. He
Speaker 3: did that one caught the drift. He did it right
Speaker 3: the next day.
Speaker 5: Yo, I'm weak.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Learning how to eat pussy is
Speaker 1: difficult because you're in there I can't see the movement
Speaker 1: of your mouth when you're in there. Somebody actually has
Speaker 1: to be like, peel it back, you see I'm pouring that.
Speaker 1: Like they kind of opened the ass so that you
Speaker 1: can see what's going on. I kind of need to
Speaker 1: know what's going on in the box because a lot
Speaker 1: of times people get the pussy and they be like.
Speaker 5: I can't see what you're doing. Yeah, but that's not
Speaker 5: what that that's that's been doing it.
Speaker 1: Though a little it was not in the there's no
Speaker 1: dust in the case. It's in the case, So that's true.
Speaker 3: You're gonna eat, He's gonna eat. He said, I hate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't really what was going on.
Speaker 3: The part that you're doing right that you can't there's
Speaker 3: so much to eat and eating it.
Speaker 5: So don't really like anyway, I don't I don't eat. No,
Speaker 5: it's not it's not the act of him eating.
Speaker 1: The fact you don't know what nobody's pussy has been.
Speaker 1: To be honest, when you put it on there, he
Speaker 1: could be dust on that too.
Speaker 3: You're talking about what you're talking about you before you
Speaker 3: eat it?
Speaker 5: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: Sexuality wise, do you what did you label it yourself.
Speaker 3: As I used to say I was just each and
Speaker 3: I'm not anything. Then I started to like, you know,
Speaker 3: we're older, so our generation, it wasn't really any terms.
Speaker 3: You was either gay or you were straight, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So once bisexual bisexual came I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I think I'm bisexual. I feel that, and then the
Speaker 3: expression of pain came out and I'm like, that's what
Speaker 3: I am. I'm more paying sexual. I'm more so attracted
Speaker 3: to energy and humans that have an energy that I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: I good vibe with you more than their sex or
Speaker 3: their sexuality or how they present.
Speaker 1: I think I'm heterosexual. I'm pretty sure, but I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about the monogamous versus. I'm not sure on the line.
Speaker 1: I ran into this lady that said this, let me see.
Speaker 4: Relationship for fifteen years and we still regularly have to
Speaker 4: check in regarding transparency. And when I say transparency, I
Speaker 4: mean how much do I tell my husband about what
Speaker 4: I've done with other people?
Speaker 5: And how much does he tell me.
Speaker 4: We have specific rules that we follow, we have a
Speaker 4: saying called privacy but no secrets, but it's still not
Speaker 4: the same as how much do I tell you based
Speaker 4: on on what I've experienced and how you are feeling.
Speaker 4: I recently went on a date with someone. My husband
Speaker 4: knew about that date before it happened, and afterwards I.
Speaker 5: Was like, Oh my gosh, I want to tell you everything.
Speaker 5: This is what I ate and this is what happened.
Speaker 4: It is all I felt, and oh my god. He said,
Speaker 4: I don't want to know the details, he said, Danielle,
Speaker 4: I'm really happy that you had a good time. I
Speaker 4: love that we give each other this freedom and this
Speaker 4: permission in our marriage, but right now, for the place
Speaker 4: that I'm in, I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to know the details.
Speaker 4: And that can be hard for me because I often
Speaker 4: feel that if I'm not providing all of the information,
Speaker 4: then I'm hiding something from my husband. Right now, he
Speaker 4: wants to know that I'm safe and happy, but he
Speaker 4: doesn't want to know much more than that. Our levels
Speaker 4: of transparency what we are and are not communicating is
Speaker 4: constantly changing based on what our wants and needs are
Speaker 4: and what we're both going through, and it's something we
Speaker 4: have to consistently check in on, and it's something I
Speaker 4: recommend to any couple, regardless of their relationship style.
Speaker 5: That was good, That's a great point.
Speaker 3: You have to content check them, and that's.
Speaker 5: The real thing.
Speaker 1: You're in a relationship. You're in a relationship. You are I'm.
Speaker 5: Probably, but Sherman is monogamous.
Speaker 1: Sherman is monogamous.
Speaker 5: Why did I know that?
Speaker 1: How did I find? I?
Speaker 5: Only?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: He really is?
Speaker 3: I only do a relationships.
Speaker 1: With Why are you sure? Why? I just want to know?
Speaker 5: No, no, and I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I don't do relationships with men.
Speaker 3: One want to.
Speaker 1: I just have to respect that one of your boundaries.
Speaker 3: No, even if it wasn't a boundary, like if we
Speaker 3: because we talk about swinging all the time and like
Speaker 3: those exploring those things. I don't want to have to
Speaker 3: work on and mitigate a relationship with another relationship with
Speaker 3: a man. I am okay with the one relationship with
Speaker 3: the man that I have And I only really I
Speaker 3: don't desire to have must a whole bunch of different
Speaker 3: partners in those ways. But my relationships with women and
Speaker 3: I like, I'm like, I feel like it's one in
Speaker 3: one cause that's the parts of me, right, Like there's
Speaker 3: that's that's always how.
Speaker 1: I felt, you mean one and one with me like.
Speaker 3: My my my husband and hopefully one day I'll have
Speaker 3: a wife.
Speaker 1: M that sounds right. Now, How would he? Is he
Speaker 1: just with you and you're just with your wife? Isn't
Speaker 1: a three way things? Have you at women to? So
Speaker 1: are you monogo?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 1: How are you? How is he monogamous? If y'all still playing?
Speaker 3: He's not in a relationship with them, right, because that
Speaker 3: that part is different. Having sex with somebody doesn't mean
Speaker 3: you're in a relationship with them. He may have had
Speaker 3: experiences with a partner of mine or someone like that
Speaker 3: or whatever have you, But that doesn't mean that there
Speaker 3: is a connection between them the way that there's a
Speaker 3: connection between me and them.
Speaker 1: M Okay, somebody said that that's like monogamoush that's fine.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, what is that?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Cause I thought it was solo poly but I recently
Speaker 3: found out solo poly is when it's a person who
Speaker 3: is not in any kind of relationship and they are
Speaker 3: just polly. So I can't remember the term, but yeah.
Speaker 1: If he were to come with you, come to you now,
Speaker 1: because I remember this conversation we had, remember the point
Speaker 1: star who was saying she does six scenes a week
Speaker 1: or six scenes a year or something like that. And
Speaker 1: she went it was in a relationship, and the guy
Speaker 1: was like, well, I should be allowed to have six
Speaker 1: hall passes a year since you're doing your thing. And
Speaker 1: she's like, well, no, it's work, and he's like frozen
Speaker 1: going up and out of that. My question is if
Speaker 1: he were to say, like, yo, you play, I'm open
Speaker 1: to you playing. Would you be open to me having
Speaker 1: a partner as well away from you? Would you be
Speaker 1: open to that?
Speaker 3: I actually bring those conversations down. What I inderstiate those conversations.
Speaker 5: I'm the heart.
Speaker 3: I'm the hard conversation person for sure.
Speaker 1: And he says no, you say no but twice, Bro,
Speaker 1: How does that go? Why do you want that? Why
Speaker 1: do you bring those conversations in?
Speaker 3: It's not that I want that. What I'm doing is
Speaker 3: being transparent. I'm always because I know that this is
Speaker 3: something that I didn't always practice, right, I didn't always
Speaker 3: have the safety to practice. It depends on who you're
Speaker 3: with the connection with that person. So being in a
Speaker 3: relationship and being in my second marriage where I can
Speaker 3: be all of who I am unapologetically right. So it's
Speaker 3: a lot of checking in of Hey, I'm discovering this
Speaker 3: about myself. Where are you at Are you still in
Speaker 3: the same place. I want to check in. I want
Speaker 3: to make sure you're good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's this thing where you never want to grow away
Speaker 3: from your partner and doing the work to always make
Speaker 3: sure you grow with your partner.
Speaker 5: I think that is so important, even if you're not
Speaker 5: in nothing, just checking in in general with your partner
Speaker 5: and making sure there's a level of transparency there or
Speaker 5: that you guys, it's still in the same like orbit
Speaker 5: we do.
Speaker 3: That, Like I have a check in called we do
Speaker 3: how's your triple h? How's your head? Heart? Hormones? When
Speaker 3: I was in a nonprofit organization, we would do a
Speaker 3: check in at the top of every meeting where we
Speaker 3: would do how's your head and heart? So in my relationship,
Speaker 3: I really loved it. So I was like, I want
Speaker 3: to add that to my relationship. But I want to
Speaker 3: add hormones in there, because sometimes we can lose each
Speaker 3: other in that marriage and in that long term when
Speaker 3: you've been together, Like how's your head, how's your heart?
Speaker 3: But how's your hormones?
Speaker 5: Are you fucking at night?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Like, like are you not feeling it?
Speaker 3: And it creates it creates conversations to the point where
Speaker 3: you no longer asks how's triple h? You just find
Speaker 3: yourself checking in and it's throughout the day. Like I
Speaker 3: started with doing it once a day and then it
Speaker 3: just landed with open conversation throughout the day.
Speaker 1: If I say, my hormones at really hormoning right now,
Speaker 1: like what is what does that? What does that say
Speaker 1: to you that she's horny? And she's like, helly, how
Speaker 1: are your homos?
Speaker 3: I'm like, eh, now, lets me know how to support you, right,
Speaker 3: because I may be horny, but it's just like on
Speaker 3: the day where you may be horny and I'm not,
Speaker 3: and I want support from you that lets me know, like,
Speaker 3: oh man, all right, let me maybe instead of trying
Speaker 3: to be all super sexy or anything like that, I
Speaker 3: may be horning. We could take care of me later,
Speaker 3: but maybe this is a moment where we can be
Speaker 3: intimate in a different way. We can cuddle up, we
Speaker 3: can have intimate conversation, or maybe we can talk about
Speaker 3: why your hormones are here, and then that could lead
Speaker 3: to sex.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: I always find that like having a transparent conversation always
Speaker 5: leads a bomb set.
Speaker 3: When I say always, always, I'm a liberation coach for
Speaker 3: a fucking reason, because that that healing part, baby, that
Speaker 3: lead to the best orgasms in your life. Those transparent
Speaker 3: healing heart not heart toxic.
Speaker 5: Because there's a difference. There's a difference.
Speaker 3: I'm talking. We're talking about conversations, hard conversations, not arguments. Yes,
Speaker 3: not that, Yes, with hard conversations, with clarity and understanding
Speaker 3: on the back. Oh my gosh, it's the hardest good conversation.
Speaker 1: Clar it's only good when the person hears you. That's
Speaker 1: why you don't feel heard in a conversation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are the ones where you go to bed you
Speaker 1: don't feel good about. There's no ending to it.
Speaker 5: But that's not a conversation. That's an argument. That's an argument.
Speaker 1: Or when somebody is deflecting, like say in a.
Speaker 3: Querious argument, that's argument, you know, just.
Speaker 1: An I hate being in a relationship with somebody that
Speaker 1: is always on the defense, that is always deflecting, and
Speaker 1: or if I bring something up, but when you did this,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 5: Again, it's not a conversation, that's a that's an argument.
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to have feelings? Are you here to
Speaker 1: help me protect them? Safeguard? Listen or or is this
Speaker 1: all about you? And that's how you wind up to
Speaker 1: start feeling And I don't think men really realize when
Speaker 1: they're being gas lit, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: a lot of times women what do they call it,
Speaker 1: they just kind of they take over the conversation with
Speaker 1: their ship. I can't I put it in my thing today.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me see.
Speaker 5: I think you I think you reposted that. I think
Speaker 5: it was something about hijacking the conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get ready to say it's a simple word too.
Speaker 1: Chicago the Let me see if I can define hijackson
Speaker 1: true for sure, it's your favorite.
Speaker 5: Chicago Therapist and learn is.
Speaker 1: I have a message for.
Speaker 5: You guys today.
Speaker 10: I'm going to need for you all to stop hijacking conversation.
Speaker 10: What is hijacking a conversation look like?
Speaker 1: If I could get to it your favorite Chicago and
Speaker 1: learn is.
Speaker 10: I have a message for you guys today. I'm going
Speaker 10: to need for you all to stop hijacking conversations. What
Speaker 10: does hijacking a conversation look like?
Speaker 1: It means when your a man is telling you he.
Speaker 10: Has a problem with something, he's trying to express his feelings.
Speaker 10: He's expressing his discomfort and you decide to make it
Speaker 10: about you.
Speaker 3: You get upset the fact.
Speaker 8: At the fact that he's upset, You get your feeling.
Speaker 5: It's about the fact that he's expressing his feelings.
Speaker 3: That's not okay.
Speaker 5: Oh I want to be a safe space. I want
Speaker 5: to be a soft place, man, Tolen, How is he
Speaker 5: going to How you gonna be that? How you gonna
Speaker 5: be that?
Speaker 6: And you don't know how to sit with your feelings
Speaker 6: when you're hearing something you don't like.
Speaker 10: In case you didn't know being a safe place. One
Speaker 10: of the big key points.
Speaker 5: To doing that is knowing how to listen. Yep.
Speaker 6: It's knowing how to sit on your feelings and allow
Speaker 6: him to express himself without you making it about you.
Speaker 6: It's like everybody understands the concept of intent versus impact
Speaker 6: until it's time for them to be the one to apologize.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter whether or not you agree with how
Speaker 6: he arrived at his feelings. It's the fact that his
Speaker 6: feelings exist, and so therefore you need to listen and
Speaker 6: take that in just the same way you would want
Speaker 6: him to do for you.
Speaker 10: So class, what are we gonna do the next time
Speaker 10: of our man's.
Speaker 6: Trying to tell us that he didn't like something that
Speaker 6: we did, or that he would like.
Speaker 10: Us to change a certain behavior.
Speaker 5: We're gonna fit.
Speaker 10: We're gonna time listening ears on and we're gonna take it,
Speaker 10: and we're gonna pick another time to bring up a
Speaker 10: discretion that we have with him.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna pick this time.
Speaker 5: We're gonna pick on another time.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that part I disagreet.
Speaker 1: That's bring it, Bratt Undisco therapist out in Chicago.
Speaker 5: So why didn't you Someone dropped the link in the
Speaker 5: discord for that. They want to see what you're talking about, Tahoe,
Speaker 5: But why you didn't? Why do you disagree at the
Speaker 5: end of it.
Speaker 3: On the very end, because that what I want to
Speaker 3: say is some all right now, if if if your
Speaker 3: man comes to you with the conversation, know what she's
Speaker 3: saying is absolutely right. This is not an opportunity and
Speaker 3: a time for you to take the ball and go haha,
Speaker 3: that were dribbling like what's happening here. However, if that
Speaker 3: wasn't the case, and the conversation was happening, and it's
Speaker 3: a moment where your man needs to express something, you
Speaker 3: listen listen, hear his intent, hear his heart. Do those things.
Speaker 3: If there's things you need to express, this is now
Speaker 3: an opportunity to have an honest conversation, those hard conversations,
Speaker 3: and learn to lean in so that you can find
Speaker 3: where's the not even a neutral space, but where is
Speaker 3: the safe space for both of you to be able
Speaker 3: to be heard. Because one party not feeling hurt means
Speaker 3: both parties don't feel hurt even when we think that
Speaker 3: we are. I like that.
Speaker 1: I came to wifey with a conversation, and I think
Speaker 1: the conversation itself was triggering in itself, and I just
Speaker 1: had to keep or I didn't have to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: But I was like, yo, I understand how you feel.
Speaker 1: I'm not arguing, I'm expressing right, and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell you how it makes me feel. So just please
Speaker 1: hear me on that without thinking that you did something wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't want you feel like you did something wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you how I feel so that we
Speaker 1: can work on that. And I think over the course
Speaker 1: of six years, she can be defensive and argumentative. I
Speaker 1: can be defensive and argumentative. So a lot of times
Speaker 1: we have those moments where emotions are high are spiked,
Speaker 1: we're just clashing, ping ping ping, right, But I think
Speaker 1: in the way that we handle this conversation, bro, she
Speaker 1: even says something that she's never said before. And that
Speaker 1: is not to say that she hasn't heard me before,
Speaker 1: but she was like, well, how can we get past that?
Speaker 1: How can we do things differently so that that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: I was in the car, right, So I was sitting
Speaker 1: in the car for like an hour having this conversation.
Speaker 1: I was like this, I just melted in the car.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe she just said that. That means she
Speaker 1: hurt me and she's willing to work on it with me.
Speaker 1: And I'm not used to a woman, no direspect to
Speaker 1: any other women. Police. This is not men versus women.
Speaker 1: I'm not used to hearing that.
Speaker 9: Can I We didn't talk about this, so I'm just
Speaker 9: saying this for the first time. But as a man
Speaker 9: that's going through this, I can tell you that her
Speaker 9: doing that made you more inclined to want to work
Speaker 9: on it. You felt so much better to say, yo,
Speaker 9: you know what, Yo, let's let's do it whatever, Like
Speaker 9: whatever it is, I'm willing to do a little bit
Speaker 9: more because you feel here, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: And that is it can revitalize a relationship. A lot
Speaker 1: of times when you keep hitting those blocks, you start
Speaker 1: looking elsewhere. You might go to the gym more. It
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be pussy. You might go to
Speaker 1: the gym more. You might be in your game more.
Speaker 1: You just kind of block it out because you know
Speaker 1: you're not being heard and the conversation is just falling
Speaker 1: on Youte ears death Ears. When she said that, I
Speaker 1: felt like we can handle anything. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just I just, you.
Speaker 5: Know, like it kind of reminds me of when I
Speaker 5: was dealing with someone and they came out and said
Speaker 5: to me that I was a safe space because I
Speaker 5: heard them, and I heard them without interrupting and then
Speaker 5: saying okay, and then I started asking my questions because
Speaker 5: I think sometimes that people just want to be heard.
Speaker 5: They don't want to be interrupted, They just want to
Speaker 5: like vented out and then you can ask the questions later.
Speaker 5: I think that's also like a good way to really
Speaker 5: feel like you know, someone's been heard, and asking right
Speaker 5: questions right, not like trying to flip in and say
Speaker 5: so what I heard was, but really just digging in
Speaker 5: and really pulling out what they're saying.
Speaker 3: And not just the triggering words. But you can get
Speaker 3: stuck on just this one term that the person used
Speaker 3: right right. You're repeating it, repeating or repeating it right,
Speaker 3: but you're not getting to a place where y'all can create.
Speaker 5: The result exactly.
Speaker 1: It was a conversation in the discord about what's the
Speaker 1: difference between a great life partner and a great sexual partner.
Speaker 1: What do y'all think that is that I have somebody
Speaker 1: broke it down with I want to hear with y'all.
Speaker 5: Think, Well, when I think of life partner, I think
Speaker 5: of my best friend. I think of my ride or
Speaker 5: die best friend. I can literally talk to you about things.
Speaker 5: I could be transparent with you. I could like I
Speaker 5: can learn from you. We're growing something together with a
Speaker 5: great sexual partner. I mean, I don't think I have
Speaker 5: that vulnerable like I have. I could be vulnerable with
Speaker 5: you because we're having sex, But I don't think I
Speaker 5: can get past a level of vulnerability to a point
Speaker 5: where I feel like, oh, you're my best friend, Like
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think that that distinction connects with me.
Speaker 3: For me, the sex partner. Part I think is just passion,
Speaker 3: pure passion. When I think of somebody that and this
Speaker 3: person made this point. Somebody were like, you're just compatible
Speaker 3: with them when y'all do the thing, it just works.
Speaker 3: Outside of that, it is what it is life partner.
Speaker 3: It all works, like we figured it out. Even when
Speaker 3: it doesn't work, it works. And like that person said,
Speaker 3: when you find that and that both of those things
Speaker 3: are the same person, that's when you know you got money.
Speaker 5: You struggled with you.
Speaker 1: Yesterday, we did our first pilot episode, for the Love
Speaker 1: of Yesterday that will be premiered on a Patreon that
Speaker 1: is going on Patreon yesterday. What do you think about
Speaker 1: that episode? I felt really good. It was really really good.
Speaker 7: I had a really good time doing that.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, felt good. Yeah, we asked you a bunch
Speaker 1: of questions. We asked the person here. Her name is Shana,
Speaker 1: you know, remember her name.
Speaker 7: The name of her pod, Safe and Secure.
Speaker 1: Safe and Secure is what it's called. Beautiful, bigger woman, sexy,
Speaker 1: very confident, very warm. She wants to take care of
Speaker 1: her man and all that. Hopefully we will get a
Speaker 1: camera on them when they go out on their date
Speaker 1: and you know, do that and then we will have
Speaker 1: another person to do the for the love of yes
Speaker 1: to They serious now towards the end, At the very end,
Speaker 1: I asked the question, so I hosted this. I asked
Speaker 1: them both questions. Whatever, I said, what do y'all think
Speaker 1: about this connection? Is it love or lust? Which one? Right?
Speaker 5: Some bullshit about to happen.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that the answer the answers from both.
Speaker 1: I can say she said love, he said lust. Two
Speaker 1: different ways of looking at what this connection can could
Speaker 1: possibly be or where it is right now, because that's
Speaker 1: changed changed, you know, going forward. I really thought that
Speaker 1: was a great episode. I want you guys to listen
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Speaker 1: We and they're talking every morning. She's in there every morning.
Speaker 1: I'm in there, but basically every morning. I wasn't this morning,
Speaker 1: but they were talking about for the love yesterday, so
Speaker 1: I want to I can't wait till tomorrow because we're
Speaker 1: gonna have that convo. The reason I brought that up
Speaker 1: is because I think those are the basis between great
Speaker 1: life partner and great sexual partner. But one of the
Speaker 1: guys Bo from the discord actually pandit in a better way, Yes,
Speaker 1: he said. A great life partner possesses qualities like emotional intelligence, reliability, trustworthiness,
Speaker 1: and strong communication skills. They provide emotional support, share similar values,
Speaker 1: and are committed to building a future together through mutual
Speaker 1: respect and teamwork. Patience, empathy, and the ability to navigate
Speaker 1: challenges together are key. On the other hand, a great
Speaker 1: sexual partner is defined by chemistry, passion, confidence, and a
Speaker 1: willingness to communicate openly about desires and boundaries. They are attentive, responsive,
Speaker 1: and prioritize mutual satisfaction forstering both excitement and emotional connection
Speaker 1: and intimacy. While some qualities overlap, a strong life partner
Speaker 1: requires deeper emotional and practical compatibility, whereas a great sexual
Speaker 1: partner focuses on physical and emotional intimacy in the moment.
Speaker 1: The ideal situation is when both aspects align in one person,
Speaker 1: creating a fulfilling and well rounded relationships.
Speaker 5: Got that from chat, you would think, so, right, No,
Speaker 5: that's really good.
Speaker 3: He does work.
Speaker 5: I know that that he did. You got that from.
Speaker 1: Listen? He might have Chatt GIBTV.
Speaker 3: Know brain he if you say po, you would want
Speaker 3: to lick his brain so.
Speaker 1: Well, So that brings me to a combo that I
Speaker 1: saw on Instagram, right, And I just want to know
Speaker 1: what y'all think about this. This isn't really that impactful,
Speaker 1: but I do want to know what y'all think.
Speaker 2: Let's see, So it's been a couple of years, and
Speaker 2: you promised that you were going to try to get
Speaker 2: into church and become a believer and church serve God.
Speaker 5: And I haven't seen even doing any of that, YB.
Speaker 9: I long when I said before we got married, like
Speaker 9: I would give this faith walk up try.
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Honestly, I want a point
Speaker 1: where I don't even know what I believe in. All
Speaker 1: I know is that I'm committed to you. I've committed
Speaker 1: to our marriage.
Speaker 9: But when I went to your church, everybody's like wearing
Speaker 9: white dresses, crazy, big.
Speaker 1: Ass, thrown up and down't speaking a language I never
Speaker 1: heard before. I don't know if I did.
Speaker 2: You realize that puts me at inconvenience and in a
Speaker 2: hard place because I need you, as the head of
Speaker 2: this house, as the man of this house, to be
Speaker 2: a covering in this house.
Speaker 1: Financially, I need more than that.
Speaker 2: Protect You promised that you were going to try to
Speaker 2: give God a try, you were going to You didn't
Speaker 2: try hard enough.
Speaker 3: You tried for two months.
Speaker 2: You didn't the last time you tried.
Speaker 7: I don't know how, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Pray to who, for what in the universe, to what thought?
Speaker 2: If you don't think this is something you can do,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to work.
Speaker 5: I don't know if we can.
Speaker 9: Pull past You're trying to say it to me our
Speaker 9: marriages like what in jeopardy?
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to go to church. That's crazy
Speaker 1: talk like do you know how I feel about you?
Speaker 7: I know how you feel about me?
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? It's not going to work?
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I hope that's a skit.
Speaker 7: First of all, I believe.
Speaker 5: That's extra.
Speaker 1: Courtney goes to church every Sunday.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know to church. Yes, I watch, I
Speaker 5: watched sermons. I don't actually go into the physical church.
Speaker 5: But as someone who's recently have been finding their relationship
Speaker 5: with God, I don't know if they need to be
Speaker 5: in the same level that I am doing it Because
Speaker 5: I talk to God every morning, and I try to
Speaker 5: catch a sermon every Sunday. But I don't expect my
Speaker 5: husband to do the exact same things that I do.
Speaker 5: If he wants to worship God in his own way,
Speaker 5: I think that's perfectly fine as long as we're not
Speaker 5: two different religions, because I think that could be a
Speaker 5: class when you're trying to raise children. But as long
Speaker 5: as it's not that, I think it's pretty much okay.
Speaker 5: If you feel like you believe in a universe, that's
Speaker 5: totally fine. But when it comes to like, you know,
Speaker 5: I think a conversation needs to be had of like
Speaker 5: how we're going to raise our kids, what they're going
Speaker 5: to believe, and you know we of course I want
Speaker 5: to let my children have their own decisions.
Speaker 1: You say two different religions, you mean like Christianity and.
Speaker 5: Muslim or Judaism like stuff like that. Yeah, but I
Speaker 5: don't think he needs to worship the same way that
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think that people forget that your relationship of God
Speaker 3: is a personal relationship and that should be something that
Speaker 3: you have a conversation before you get married, so that
Speaker 3: you know, like I know, pilenty of people who husband,
Speaker 3: you know, the white somebody want parts Muslim one parts
Speaker 3: Christian and it works. I feel like whatever works for you.
Speaker 3: The things that I heard that stood out was he said,
Speaker 3: I'm dedicated and devoted to you in our home about
Speaker 3: like we're talking about like all right, cool, cool, cool,
Speaker 3: Like that's what I want, right, I want someone who
Speaker 3: who at the end of the day, you're not going
Speaker 3: to bring hurt and harm to us. You're going to
Speaker 3: make sure that we're protected. You're going to make sure
Speaker 3: that we're good when we talk about covering. What does
Speaker 3: that look like?
Speaker 1: I heard that, But I also heard that he not
Speaker 1: only made assurances to her that he would try he
Speaker 1: said try, but that he said to who, to the
Speaker 1: like does he even believe it?
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, right, So that to me is
Speaker 3: more of a conversation that we should have had before
Speaker 3: we got married. If we're talking about now we're married,
Speaker 3: right and now okay, so now I'm the god fearing woman.
Speaker 3: We've married. Now, what what am I going to do?
Speaker 3: God fearing woman? I'm supposed to stay in this marriage
Speaker 3: regardless of what correct? Right, So, again, those are conversations
Speaker 3: you should have pre marriage, not in the marriage.
Speaker 1: If a person that believes in Christ and God can
Speaker 1: be married to somebody that does not.
Speaker 3: I've had to the military, I've been exposed to so much. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's people who are married to atheists. Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: I don't for sure how that's I don't see how
Speaker 1: that works.
Speaker 3: That's what it's just like some people with different households
Speaker 3: where they have different political views. That's different to some,
Speaker 3: but not to everybody. To some people, it's not different
Speaker 3: because that's your view, and a part of it is
Speaker 3: that's like some people, that's a part of maybe why
Speaker 3: they fell in love with you. You are dedicated to
Speaker 3: your God the same way I'm dedicated to my God.
Speaker 3: How come I can't love you if I love the
Speaker 3: dedication you show to your God, even if I don't
Speaker 3: believe in your God. As long as you don't make
Speaker 3: me feel a way about serving my God and I'm
Speaker 3: able to serve my God, then yes, we can have
Speaker 3: a beautiful union.
Speaker 5: Why not.
Speaker 8: Yesterday?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 9: No, No, I think that's the only problem that comes
Speaker 9: with I feel like it becomes like one has to
Speaker 9: be more than the other are more important. Where it's
Speaker 9: just like, yo, we can just respect both of them.
Speaker 9: Like you said, Like yo, you can worship how you
Speaker 9: worship our worship powership, and we can just love each
Speaker 9: other in the worship. It doesn't have to be my
Speaker 9: version or it doesn't have to be your version.
Speaker 1: We can, but you believe in a higher power. You
Speaker 1: believe it's something that's greater than us. There's a covenant here,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: people that don't, but find somebody else said, don't figure
Speaker 1: out y'all don't. But if I do and you don't
Speaker 1: like it stops with you being at to have a household.
Speaker 1: To me, that creates a bigger problem over time for
Speaker 1: me personally.
Speaker 5: I don't think I could date anythist for me right
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 3: Have I seen it work?
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I don't know if that's for me because
Speaker 5: like I said, you don't have to worship God the
Speaker 5: same way that I do, but you have. We have
Speaker 5: to have some type of overlapping beliefs in something.
Speaker 1: Exactly, and I mean most religions do that in some way.
Speaker 1: They all there's something else. And I think that the
Speaker 1: best communities are formed with their relationship through the higher
Speaker 1: power or through something else that bonds everybody together. It's
Speaker 1: like a code of living, code of ethics. It's a
Speaker 1: moral code. That's what those relationships. You know.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with that, But the thing is you're saying,
Speaker 3: does it work? Can it happen? I think that it
Speaker 3: still can happen. Prayer still can happen, though it just
Speaker 3: may not be everybody's cup of tea.
Speaker 5: You know, you're.
Speaker 3: Christian and day and a Buddhists. I've seen it.
Speaker 1: But that's you still worship how you worship. And I
Speaker 1: might like that you worship the way you worship, even
Speaker 1: if it's not for me, but you do worship. It's
Speaker 1: actually that's an admirable thing that you worship the way
Speaker 1: you worship. That's not something for me to say, hey,
Speaker 1: come over here.
Speaker 3: I just think that even in that scenario, right, I
Speaker 3: think that this was a moment where, especially we talk
Speaker 3: about husband and wife, he said, I don't eat. What
Speaker 3: he said was I don't know where I'm at right now.
Speaker 3: And I think again it goes back to the conversation
Speaker 3: we were just having. We're here, your partner, He said,
Speaker 3: I don't know where I'm at right now. He didn't
Speaker 3: say this is where I'm going.
Speaker 5: To be at forever. Where is grace?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Like, even if the two months wasn't enough for her
Speaker 3: in trying, maybe that was the two months he needed
Speaker 3: for him in trying so he can create a relationship
Speaker 3: with God. Don't interfere with it. I think that's the
Speaker 3: part where I'm coming from.
Speaker 5: I think, and I'm going to agree with you with that,
Speaker 5: because people have to have their own they have to
Speaker 5: come to their own terms when it comes to God.
Speaker 3: It took me.
Speaker 5: I didn't go to I didn't grow up in the church.
Speaker 5: I didn't know any group, I didn't know any church songs,
Speaker 5: no nothing. I got into this on my own, and
Speaker 5: I would want my partner to respect that I'm getting
Speaker 5: into it on my own and give me that grace.
Speaker 5: So I definitely agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you were in the military. Yes, I've
Speaker 1: never spoken to a woman that's been in the military
Speaker 1: on the show on.
Speaker 5: The show, on the show, only they out there.
Speaker 1: How long were you in the military.
Speaker 5: I only served for almost three four years.
Speaker 3: It was about three years literally like eleven months.
Speaker 1: And what was your experience did you date while in
Speaker 1: the military.
Speaker 3: I was single when I was in the military.
Speaker 1: And is this something that we could talk about.
Speaker 5: Oh, for sure, he knows all the things. Okay, he
Speaker 5: really knows everything. Seriously, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Why.
Speaker 3: I know that's why we're telling him, please talk. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to make him have a show with me because
Speaker 3: I need people to know he's real.
Speaker 5: He's a person, a real person.
Speaker 1: Did you face sexual harass that you have? Like, what
Speaker 1: was your experience when it came to did you have
Speaker 1: kink in the military?
Speaker 3: Like, So I went to my first I guess it
Speaker 3: would be like a swing club when I was in
Speaker 3: the military. I went with a couple with one of
Speaker 3: my sergeants. She took me with some friends of hers.
Speaker 3: We used to hang out prior. That was literally my
Speaker 3: last weekend hanging.
Speaker 5: Out with her out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just would hang out, like literally go to
Speaker 3: the club. First of all, version of hang out, regular
Speaker 3: hangout like no, no regular hangout Like we would go
Speaker 3: to the club busted up, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: She go hell where y'all go? Mind type thing?
Speaker 3: And I was invited out one night with her into
Speaker 3: her homies and we went to the sex club and
Speaker 3: it was fire. I didn't do anything because it wasn't
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not a stranger person. I like, I'm
Speaker 3: demmy a little bit with that, Like I like to
Speaker 3: get to know you and have conversation and get catch
Speaker 3: the vibe. But I was able to like do things
Speaker 3: with like that exhibitionists where just kind of being in
Speaker 3: the environment and it was this was the spot in
Speaker 3: the nash Field. It was in Nashville.
Speaker 5: Oh, it was so fucked I just came from Nashville.
Speaker 5: They were just saying, there's a lot of secret.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: It was super secret because like when you when you
Speaker 3: look at the place, what happens is when you go
Speaker 3: into it, you have to It was like this big
Speaker 3: warehouse on the outside and you have to go down
Speaker 3: these steps when you go in. As you go down
Speaker 3: the steps, you check in, pay your money and everything.
Speaker 3: You keep going down like you're going into this heavy basement.
Speaker 3: Get down there and it's like a little seeny siney bar,
Speaker 3: a little things floor. Okay, like, well, where is everything
Speaker 3: happening at there? Like go up there, you go pass
Speaker 3: this door, and now we're going back up steps. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, why am I going back up steps the
Speaker 3: whole fucking warehouse? Yeah, single rooms in there. They had
Speaker 3: this one room that just had beds, like King Queen
Speaker 3: size beds with these drapery and it was like eight
Speaker 3: of them in there. It was just so sexy. And
Speaker 3: we ended up in the pool. We had pulled back
Speaker 3: there billards. You just a little game room and I'm
Speaker 3: playing strip poker strip and I lost.
Speaker 1: It was fun.
Speaker 3: I just ran around a poll table, nagger and a streak.
Speaker 5: I'm big with it.
Speaker 3: I'll like, I'm a streaker, new this kind of thing.
Speaker 3: I'll do that type of stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, They said Nashville because I was down there,
Speaker 5: uh two weeks ago, and I was talking to my
Speaker 5: friend's mom and she's like, yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: the there's a lot of secret society that she was
Speaker 5: telling me about pineapple and there was like if you
Speaker 5: put your pineapple in the shopping cart a certain way,
Speaker 5: that tells other people that you're down.
Speaker 3: For swing swinging. And I was like, wow, pineapple swing life.
Speaker 1: Person on that cruise had on pineapple something.
Speaker 5: Upside down, pineapple.
Speaker 1: Shirt, swim trunks. Everybody.
Speaker 5: She says, someone who works I think in the Senator
Speaker 5: office was the one that told her was like oky pineapple.
Speaker 3: Another way somebody told me I needed to go into politics.
Speaker 3: And I was like, well they shunned me and I
Speaker 3: was like, no, they like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So you did say that you were in Germany.
Speaker 3: Yes, three and a half years, and this was before
Speaker 3: I was in though I was a military spouse before
Speaker 3: I was ever in. So this is my second marriage.
Speaker 3: I got twenty five plus twenty almost twenty five years
Speaker 3: of being a wife.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, so you was in Germany. How was sex
Speaker 5: different in Germany?
Speaker 3: First off, everything is different, Like when I first got there.
Speaker 3: You remember the got milk campaign? Yeah, and it was
Speaker 3: like just milk over top of your lip and everything.
Speaker 3: They had a got milk campaign, but it was like
Speaker 3: breastfeeding and the chicken titty was out like it was
Speaker 3: like wait, what's happening? And it was like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: I just got here.
Speaker 5: She was like it was She's just like it's titty milk.
Speaker 3: But this was on like where you wait for the bus, so.
Speaker 1: You gotta wait. There was a line of people waiting
Speaker 1: to get titties and.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, And the titty was out out first
Speaker 5: of all, up to get like.
Speaker 3: Distract that would be red like distract that that's where
Speaker 3: like and they are in the window.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to hold you. It was like, I've
Speaker 5: been to the district. Yeah, it's just different, it's different.
Speaker 1: I told wife this after our conversation. I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to go to Columbia and uh have sex
Speaker 1: with the Columbian prostitutes. And she was like I can't
Speaker 1: remember what she said, but I was like, and I
Speaker 1: want to go to Brazil and I want to go
Speaker 1: to Japan.
Speaker 3: Want to She's like, oh, yeah, I want to go
Speaker 3: to Japan too.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I want to go.
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do if you want to go
Speaker 3: on a smut he want to go on a smut tour,
Speaker 3: He's not a hord tour. You will be on a
Speaker 3: smut tour. No, I don't think it would be anything
Speaker 3: going going wrong with a smut tour, like a paid
Speaker 3: paid tour.
Speaker 5: Pussy paid for the pussy tour.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pay for the pussy tour would be high. That's
Speaker 3: to horrors, I don't think so. I think that is
Speaker 3: perfectly horrish.
Speaker 11: For you for me, right, But what what she's gonna
Speaker 11: need to be there with you because you literally, you
Speaker 11: literally said that you cannot get it up unless she's
Speaker 11: right next to you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, that's if she's there. He already
Speaker 3: made that clear if she's in the building. If not,
Speaker 3: then he's an I know what I'm saying that you.
Speaker 1: Know if she's there, So that's the difference. If she's there,
Speaker 1: it's weird if we're not.
Speaker 5: But if she's not, like nowhere near you, then you're like,
Speaker 5: get harder.
Speaker 3: One she came, you did, get harder.
Speaker 5: One sounds like she had it on locking the way you.
Speaker 1: In the box. That's right, what she supposed to do
Speaker 1: if I know you're going. I know. But what if
Speaker 1: she's supposed to do. If I'm in the brothel, what
Speaker 1: is she supposed to do?
Speaker 3: She can she's walking around or have some fun on
Speaker 3: her own. She likes women. Yeah, and then there's men
Speaker 3: there too.
Speaker 1: Or the room service.
Speaker 3: No, there would be no room service in the brothel
Speaker 3: or at the Yeah, no, there's been there as well.
Speaker 1: No, you walk in and the madam comes up, Yes,
Speaker 1: and she lines up all of the women and which women.
Speaker 7: That sounds like I'll be staying in the hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess, or yeah something.
Speaker 3: It would be walking around and I'm not doing the sas.
Speaker 5: There's men options as well. You have options there.
Speaker 3: It's not like basically like this, if this space was
Speaker 3: a brothel, you would just come in and you're in
Speaker 3: the room. You're not getting room services yesterday, get you something.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know right now, if I go
Speaker 1: to the brothel in Japan.
Speaker 3: In Japan, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You could go to the mill and I don't care.
Speaker 1: It's not as much fun as you want.
Speaker 3: That's I'm not going to stereotype. I don't see some
Speaker 3: of them. No, I don't sing something.
Speaker 1: Dragons.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you never know they exist out here.
Speaker 3: You've seen some of them Asia, man, listen if you
Speaker 3: want to. I don't know, doesn't So that's me either.
Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me because it's still my person, like
Speaker 3: we're still it's not taking away from us, right, No,
Speaker 3: I'm weak.
Speaker 5: So going back to Germany, how else was it different
Speaker 5: between besides titty ads in the out in the open,
Speaker 5: I feel like, are they more sexually?
Speaker 3: It was? It was than we are way more and
Speaker 3: and and everything wasn't like there's a students on the table.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, clinch your pirls like they're one eight hundreds,
Speaker 3: y'all it was like, run, we're to go into the
Speaker 3: voices now, like like yes is fonted, God, it's y'all,
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know they talking, No, for sure,
Speaker 3: I look up one of those numbers, like they're talking
Speaker 3: in German and they're trying to be subductive. But they're naked.
Speaker 3: They're not in sexy clothes. They're naked. Sometimes it all
Speaker 3: clipped to a shot of some of the porn or whatever,
Speaker 3: and you'll see the people in the middle of it,
Speaker 3: and it may be older people and maybe younger people,
Speaker 3: and maybe people physically fit. It may not be you
Speaker 3: don't know, it's Germany. What's up?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: And that was on the late night Germans. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of black.
Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm I'm an asshole. I don't know how
Speaker 3: to speak German, all right, trying to pack out.
Speaker 5: German.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't. But I can say Dutch is the
Speaker 3: most I can say. That's what I can say. Na,
Speaker 3: Now that was German. Okay, do you speak Judge?
Speaker 1: No, you never make a talk Judge to you while
Speaker 1: you come on, bro.
Speaker 3: You get to Russian lady, you got come on?
Speaker 1: You said Dutch ship Well, I'm I'm how does it
Speaker 1: feel in Dutch? Say some sexy shit in Dutch?
Speaker 5: You can't say sexy should impossible, impossible, but yeah, no, no, no German.
Speaker 5: German is not a sexy language. But it's a harder
Speaker 5: tongue language. I don't get it twisted. I had friends
Speaker 5: when they speak, I'll be like, what you say, you.
Speaker 3: Ain't say like the rest of them, that was going
Speaker 3: to sexy you guys, you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 3: little hard, but sexy heart I like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not one of the love languages, you know,
Speaker 5: like French, Spanish. It's not one of those love languages.
Speaker 3: It's like Portuguese.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not that because Germans like Russian. Yeah, if
Speaker 5: I can ever find like a like a Russian accent
Speaker 5: to be like, you don't find it.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 7: Imagining the Russian porn before imagine that.
Speaker 5: You don't want to understand you. I don't like I have.
Speaker 3: I don't like it. But there was this one time
Speaker 3: where I was like, I think I want to hit
Speaker 3: people because it didn't get me kind of there. They
Speaker 3: was kind of rough, and I love.
Speaker 1: I love everything. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 5: I like rough sex, but German porn just takes it
Speaker 5: to a level where I'm just like, are you okay?
Speaker 5: Like blink twice if you're okay. It's a little so
Speaker 5: too rough for me and I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: So you asked, what's the difference between Eastern and.
Speaker 5: Well, I was I was going to get there and
Speaker 5: I was going to say, is there a difference between
Speaker 5: how we view sex and how I don't know if
Speaker 5: you've been further.
Speaker 3: I have been further East. I feel like were in
Speaker 3: the East, they're more open depending on where you're at
Speaker 3: for sure, right, because I have been in Middle East.
Speaker 3: That's not open, that's not livingroom talking about Littleton. Listen,
Speaker 3: what was when I was there? Now? That was interesting.
Speaker 3: When I was in Afghanistan, I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 3: I was working what they call ECP entry control point,
Speaker 3: and so I'm all, I'm at the guard. You know,
Speaker 3: a bunch of men are coming in. They would have
Speaker 3: to do this thing where they kind of sit, call
Speaker 3: them soaking, and every time they walk past me, they
Speaker 3: put their heads down. And but they would talk to
Speaker 3: my battle buddy, who was a white woman, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: why I felt I thought it was rude. I'm like,
Speaker 3: why didn't I They won't even look at me, won't
Speaker 3: say nothing to me, but they'll talk to her to
Speaker 3: ask her a question. What's going on? I'm thinking racism
Speaker 3: right because I'm American fuck out here, and they were like, no,
Speaker 3: you're beautiful. They're not allowed to look at you. I
Speaker 3: was like oh, And then I felt fucked up because
Speaker 3: I was like, damn they talking to her. Oh they did,
Speaker 3: they did, And it was like oh wow, Like because
Speaker 3: I had, like my interpreter that would be at I
Speaker 3: used to be with us. I asked him. I'm like
Speaker 3: what he said, No, no, no, he said you're you're beautiful woman.
Speaker 5: You're beautiful.
Speaker 3: So they can't look at if they are married, they're
Speaker 3: not allowed to look at me. So it's it's cultural, right.
Speaker 3: So when we say is it different here or there?
Speaker 3: I believe it's just the culture and in some cultures
Speaker 3: in German culture, in German society in Europe, it's not
Speaker 3: a German it's not as shun like you coron sixteen.
Speaker 3: I believe it's the legal drinking age. So in cigarettes,
Speaker 3: they used to have cigarette machines on the corner like the.
Speaker 1: Old just imagine with the not know looking like imagine
Speaker 1: somebody just looking at you like, I mean, like this
Speaker 1: nobody looking like.
Speaker 5: Damn a man. And they were not.
Speaker 3: Really I really thought something was up because they were
Speaker 3: because I asked a question. Right, there was this There
Speaker 3: was this one guy. He was like a beautiful Jesus
Speaker 3: in the ways in which they described Jesus the copper skin.
Speaker 3: But he had these pretty hazel blue eyes and he.
Speaker 5: Kept staring at me.
Speaker 3: And that's what made me ask, because I'm like, none
Speaker 3: of the rest of them look at me.
Speaker 5: Why is he was single?
Speaker 3: So he was like, yeah, no, he was making it
Speaker 3: clear that he he was here for it. What's up?
Speaker 3: I'm giving you all the eye contacts. What's going to
Speaker 3: be my wife? I'm like, what's happening here?
Speaker 1: Did you wind up taking them down?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: No, he was in a soap bad I'm not so well.
Speaker 3: He was a local national like so he was Afghani
Speaker 3: and where they have to sit in it's like this,
Speaker 3: it's like real war like like bob Wires and all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff is real, real Milicent. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: think of like war movies, and that's what the ECP
Speaker 3: was yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I do have some other questions for you,
Speaker 1: but I think we should asked him after we start
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 5: Yes, let's start the show.
Speaker 1: You already.
Speaker 8: Yep?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an hour and something minutes and we're
Speaker 1: starting the show. I love this part though, because I
Speaker 1: imagine if you could do four play for this long?
Speaker 5: Wait for an hour? You do you do four play
Speaker 5: for an hour? Oh?
Speaker 1: What the fun is an hour? What are you doing
Speaker 1: with it? Look at you look tired?
Speaker 5: Just him?
Speaker 1: What you so? What do you do for hours?
Speaker 5: Whatever?
Speaker 1: Close? What do you do for hour? What do we.
Speaker 3: What do you do for hours?
Speaker 1: Eating?
Speaker 5: Hmm?
Speaker 8: All of it?
Speaker 3: You just sucking sixty.
Speaker 1: I'm learning that I do like smelling her. That's that's
Speaker 1: kind of a newer thing for me. You just sniffing her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like what sniff and watch? She smells good.
Speaker 3: But I think it ties into like primal ship too.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you never just smelled the crevice of your partner,
Speaker 11: like just smelling all parts.
Speaker 5: Of them smell I like, yeah, getting the crevices.
Speaker 7: Up there, everything everything.
Speaker 3: I want to bite him though.
Speaker 5: I'm a bier, I'm a vampire. I like biting.
Speaker 3: I like randomly biting like wasting watching TV and being bitten,
Speaker 3: like he's been biting me.
Speaker 1: I'm not really big on being bitten. But the other
Speaker 1: day we was going super crazy and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: bite me, bite me. I'm like harder. She's like trying
Speaker 1: to find trying to find somewhere. But it was the
Speaker 1: first time where I incorporated pain for me into it
Speaker 1: and it actually felt good. But there's a level where
Speaker 1: it can go too far. Wow, I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: about that. Also, after we started show Welcome to the Heart,
Speaker 1: a soft show, the show where we talk about things
Speaker 1: that make us hard and things that make us soft,
Speaker 1: the things we like in the bedroom, things we don't
Speaker 1: like the bedroom. I did that backwards. But if you've
Speaker 1: been here long enough, you already know I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: with bub Delicious, so don't start shipping. Courtney shav what's up, mama.
Speaker 1: How you feeling today?
Speaker 5: We're good today. It's beautiful weather, Yes, summer is soon come. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm yes.
Speaker 1: And A one of the founding members. She's been here
Speaker 1: with us for years. What's been two? Three years? How
Speaker 1: long you been in here?
Speaker 5: It's at least two for sure.
Speaker 1: Of the nut Navy, Madam say is what I like
Speaker 1: to I know her as i Ushould, but her tag
Speaker 1: is Madam Say and she also has a podcast called
Speaker 1: Temple of Euphoria. Now tell us about the Temple.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Temple of befo you okay? So it started
Speaker 3: off as a retreat. We wanted to do this thing
Speaker 3: where people like yourself in the community y'all are always
Speaker 3: putting together events and things like that. We wanted to
Speaker 3: put something together for them, but that means that needs
Speaker 3: capital and it was a during that time frame, it
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, we have to We love this brand,
Speaker 3: we built something here, but what else can we do
Speaker 3: with it? And in the midst of it, it was
Speaker 3: just a lot of conversations around black people that I
Speaker 3: knew people were coming to me who aren't exposed to
Speaker 3: kink and they had kink questions because they had seen
Speaker 3: me on Easter Your Heart Out podcasts or other shows
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. We're just kind of been watched
Speaker 3: me on the Live Show to tour stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, answering the questions and it
Speaker 3: was like, well, let's turn that into a show. How
Speaker 3: can we answer these questions for black and brown people
Speaker 3: who have no idea about kink and allow them to
Speaker 3: be introduced to kink from a space of education, so
Speaker 3: that way when they go into it, they're going into
Speaker 3: it safe because there have been a lot of conversations
Speaker 3: about people who aren't so safe and some of the
Speaker 3: things that's happening. So that's how we birth there and
Speaker 3: it has been dope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a topic that you've spoken.
Speaker 3: We just had Zori Baby on from Noughty Knights n Y.
Speaker 3: I say we had her on and the conversation we
Speaker 3: had with her was swing versus kink. A lot of
Speaker 3: people think it's the same, and having that conversation of
Speaker 3: where is different, why it's different, what the two spaces
Speaker 3: look like, and how to conduct yourself when you're in
Speaker 3: that space very different.
Speaker 1: I think those are one of the differences that we
Speaker 1: had when we had we did the party with Classic.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's like a free full type of vibe and
Speaker 1: it's certain certain communities and it's nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 1: But when you combine that with say the kink play,
Speaker 1: yes it can, they're looking for the kink people to
Speaker 1: be swinging people and we're like, yo, that's not and
Speaker 1: it's not saying right it's completely different. So that I
Speaker 1: believe that's the different disconnected communications sometimes that can happen,
Speaker 1: and play parties you can do. This could be a
Speaker 1: million different ways to do, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But when you combine them both, it can be interesting.
Speaker 1: It can be interesting.
Speaker 3: I think there's something beautiful when you niche it down
Speaker 3: a little bit, like one of those things I want
Speaker 3: to do. I'm really interested in curating a pan sexual
Speaker 3: and fluid play party where you need to be pan
Speaker 3: or fluid in order to be in this space.
Speaker 1: We spoke about this in the discord, and I want
Speaker 1: to do it. They was talking about a dark room,
Speaker 1: remember when we spoke about it room before. Yes, apparently
Speaker 1: it's not just a gay thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not.
Speaker 1: Apparently a dark room means you go in there you're
Speaker 1: open to anything.
Speaker 3: Ah okay, especially if it was a.
Speaker 1: Pan sexual or fluid one. Right, what do you say
Speaker 1: happening in the dark room?
Speaker 3: If so one, I wouldn't go in the dark room.
Speaker 3: Just be clear, okay, because I'm afraid of dark.
Speaker 5: I like to see what's happening.
Speaker 3: Thank you, turn like so let me see you get
Speaker 3: gig you know, I like it I like watching, But
Speaker 3: what I would imagine happening is and when there's everyone's
Speaker 3: either fluid or pan it's more so people who want
Speaker 3: to express they get to expressed with whomever, versus, Ah,
Speaker 3: your balls kind of touch me, or you know, if
Speaker 3: you're heterosexual you're uncomfortable, or if you're hetero flexible and
Speaker 3: you want to come and explore, you would be able
Speaker 3: to come and explore a little bit, and something like that.
Speaker 3: If you're by and you want to come have a
Speaker 3: good time, I think you can have a good time.
Speaker 3: It would be more of all the bodies intertwining and
Speaker 3: my vision of it right, versus sometimes what can happen
Speaker 3: when like, for example, we frequent.
Speaker 5: A lot of clubs.
Speaker 3: The clubs is more swing mentality, but they're also very hetero.
Speaker 3: It's very high eral community, right, So there's this weird
Speaker 3: awkwardness that happens sometimes where the men don't know how
Speaker 3: to approach, the women don't know how to get approached
Speaker 3: or even to approach, so nothing happens. You end up
Speaker 3: with a lot of people kind of standing around. Whereas
Speaker 3: when I've been to events where it is more.
Speaker 5: Oh, we were at a skating party, we like grow.
Speaker 3: You can't do that here, you know, It's just it's
Speaker 3: just there's energy that flows. So I'm curious what that
Speaker 3: would look like.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to go into a heterosexual dark room.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, oh that would be nice for you, but
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Can have a little light so I can see where
Speaker 1: the balls is at. Like you said, I don't want
Speaker 1: to just.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 1: Freaking to go in there.
Speaker 3: None, that's okay.
Speaker 1: We noticed pussy's in here, the pussies in here. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants to have sex. Everybody wants to have sex.
Speaker 5: Everybody.
Speaker 1: They don't care who's fucking them. They don't care. Dick
Speaker 1: in their mouth, they got to diconate, but they got
Speaker 1: to dick in their hand, they gotta diconate foot. I
Speaker 1: want that.
Speaker 3: Type of in your mouth, your foot or whatever.
Speaker 1: But then somebody over there can just come and start
Speaker 1: eating my ass as long as they have a vagina.
Speaker 1: What's that? That's all I do. But it's like, yall, yo,
Speaker 1: it's fine that depending sexuals and the bisexuals and the
Speaker 1: hetero flexibles want to do, but we.
Speaker 8: Can have no.
Speaker 3: I don't think that you couldn't I think that it
Speaker 3: still would need to have a little bit of light
Speaker 3: so that it can be exactly so that you can
Speaker 3: all the balls, because you got to remember you're representing
Speaker 3: the heterosexual males. They are also heterosexual females, right, you
Speaker 3: don't want another coochie accidentally, or you know, do you
Speaker 3: want a woman eating.
Speaker 1: Your coochie if she's in the dark room, she don't care.
Speaker 3: But see, that's that's where you are little. You see
Speaker 3: you ain't really.
Speaker 5: Hurt about it.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to eat.
Speaker 11: I don't want you know that, you ask any person
Speaker 11: that's gay, you're fake gay.
Speaker 1: If all I gotta, if I'm just eating, you are fake. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's why I don't say that, like you
Speaker 3: can eat. I don't need an example like I have
Speaker 3: some heterosexual female friends where it's like, no, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to touch on the coaching. I don't even want
Speaker 3: to smell it, like I don't even want to be
Speaker 3: near it like that. So because I'm not like that,
Speaker 3: I just I don't.
Speaker 5: Want to eat it. You don't want you like a sushi.
Speaker 5: It doesn't do anything for me. If I kiss a woman,
Speaker 5: oh it doesn't do any It doesn't like isn't Yeah,
Speaker 5: it doesn't do anything to me.
Speaker 1: I think a whole different level of sexuality that's acceptable, yes,
Speaker 1: versus because he kissing a man is just trying. It
Speaker 1: makes I can't see it like sum you attractive, good
Speaker 1: looking because he's a man. That's not right.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, mean while me thinking about
Speaker 5: kissing night, Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, exactly. But you are paying sexual first of all,
Speaker 1: respectfully like.
Speaker 3: A house, like.
Speaker 5: She has boundaries.
Speaker 1: She will kiss trans woman.
Speaker 5: Man his name and whatever.
Speaker 1: It is that person. Yes, she'll do it. That's what
Speaker 1: I meant by that. I was trying to be shaky.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so men we kind of And I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's societal. I don't know if it's just
Speaker 1: scared to be labeled gay. But I literally, in my
Speaker 1: body have never looked at a man and be like
Speaker 1: I kissed the ship out that nigga, Like it's never
Speaker 1: it's not, it's not it's not a thing that ever happens.
Speaker 1: Never get pound.
Speaker 5: Though, isn't that going?
Speaker 1: No? I get it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's because you're hetero.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that proves that you're heterosexual. There are some men
Speaker 3: that may be thought about kissing a guy, but they
Speaker 3: won't say it because oh, no, no, you're gay.
Speaker 1: Yeah well, well, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: Wanting to just explore because you.
Speaker 9: Know, men are not only demonized by other men for that,
Speaker 9: but also women too.
Speaker 5: Yes, very much.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes men who may want to, who may
Speaker 3: be hetero flexible, can be demonized more by women sometimes
Speaker 3: than men. Yeah no, no, I've seen it. I've seen that.
Speaker 1: I was speaking about that too on my gram when
Speaker 1: I was talking about the docy thing that women are
Speaker 1: often so cool with gay men until it's a dude
Speaker 1: the're dating, or when when the dude that they're dating
Speaker 1: has had a gay experience of any sort, any male
Speaker 1: to male experience of any sort, if he likes butt play,
Speaker 1: antal play of any sort where it's him receiving, they
Speaker 1: get where the homophobic about the way they view him.
Speaker 1: Oh he's not masculine enough, or you know, he might
Speaker 1: like dick, or if he hangs out with his friends
Speaker 1: too much. Oh remember that, so shameless. Somebody was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you hanged, he must got better play than me. You
Speaker 1: always with but you and dudes.
Speaker 3: But I've seen this happen a lot. This is not
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm the exception, not the rule. I know that,
Speaker 3: I know where I'm the exception, not the rule, because
Speaker 3: none of that. You're What you did in your past
Speaker 3: is your past right, and experiences that you have is
Speaker 3: what you had exactly if you share them with me?
Speaker 3: To me again, that safe space? Am I your safe
Speaker 3: space to share that with? What if your experience what
Speaker 3: a man wasn't a good one? What if you shared
Speaker 3: that with me because you were traumatized.
Speaker 1: No, you're not, you're by curious or something. No, if
Speaker 1: you're if you wanted to kiss the dude.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's what I know. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: What if your experience wasn't Again, you got to remember
Speaker 5: I was in the.
Speaker 1: Middle, started in the ball.
Speaker 3: Stay with me with this.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I try it. No, c that's curious.
Speaker 3: So look and when we were in afghanistand on the
Speaker 3: male side of the barracks, there was a no rape,
Speaker 3: no sign. Again, even as grown men, there is just
Speaker 3: like present like you, you don't know. A guy may
Speaker 3: have had an experience with a man, but he didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily want it. So what if that's the case, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to call you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, grape is not. Yeah, that's a desery I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if a man shared, like you were saying, if
Speaker 3: a man shares any of those things you're saying, like,
Speaker 3: if he wants it, if he's.
Speaker 1: I think if you have the desire, that makes you
Speaker 1: curious and and that's fine for me, and I think
Speaker 1: more people should be open to saying, yes, I'm curious
Speaker 1: about that. It doesn't make you gay. It means that
Speaker 1: I would wouldn't mind an experience to see if I
Speaker 1: like it or not. That definitely to me, because I'm
Speaker 1: not you know, I think we all people don't like
Speaker 1: labels a lot. I remember I was talking to a
Speaker 1: woman that was like, I, I like, I had sexual
Speaker 1: with a woman. I had a relationship with a woman.
Speaker 1: I don't like being called bisexual.
Speaker 3: I understand it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you like women and you like men,
Speaker 1: you're bisexual. Well, what's the problem with it. She's like,
Speaker 1: I don't like the labels. I don't like the labels,
Speaker 1: and okay, fine, but you are bisexual. Literally, you like
Speaker 1: women and you're like men. You're by I don't have
Speaker 1: to call you it ever again. But I understand that
Speaker 1: you like women and you like men as a man,
Speaker 1: I do not like men or women. I am not
Speaker 1: curious about men nothing. When you are, you are open
Speaker 1: to an experience with men and you're open to an
Speaker 1: experience with women, what's wrong with saying that.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's anything wrong with saying It's just
Speaker 3: how society will treat you unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm cool with that part. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: But if it's in the safe space, then yeah, you
Speaker 1: like women and you like men. Hey, I won't say
Speaker 1: nothing else. It is.
Speaker 3: To use it.
Speaker 1: It is what it is.
Speaker 5: So okay, I guess my question is why do people
Speaker 5: Why do some people don't.
Speaker 3: Like the label? So the label for me was because
Speaker 3: when I got the label, people then did this thing
Speaker 3: where they kind of acknowledged me as the label in
Speaker 3: a way or treated me like the label was sitting
Speaker 3: on my forehead, especially in relationships with men. Oh you
Speaker 3: by Yeah, First of all, stop it. Okay, this means nothing.
Speaker 5: Right because who like? What does it mean? Like if
Speaker 5: I want to have that experience with you?
Speaker 3: I mean I want that experience, I mean, but I
Speaker 3: also I mean if I'm trying to get to know you,
Speaker 3: who says just because I'm getting to know you. I
Speaker 3: want to sleep with you, and someone else I'm trying
Speaker 3: to still get to know you. I don't even know
Speaker 3: if I like you. You gotta make it right, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And it was always that and
Speaker 3: also this whole thing there was there's this narrative when
Speaker 3: people can label you like, oh, you're one of them,
Speaker 3: your mom, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like that was always my response. That was my response.
Speaker 3: And I know that's not a good response, right, you know,
Speaker 3: but that's how it made me feel. It was like,
Speaker 3: what is one of them?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Does that even means? That energy, even when they didn't
Speaker 3: say it, it was the energy of you belong to
Speaker 3: this group and you're not like us, and it's just
Speaker 3: a weird energy, wasn't my friend?
Speaker 5: Do you think that the I'm about to hit it,
Speaker 5: about to come on, let's go there. Do you think
Speaker 5: that the LGBTQ community plus community. Do you think that
Speaker 5: sometimes it happens within for sure?
Speaker 3: Within the community, for sure? Like for example, I experienced
Speaker 3: it like there are a lot of women who identify
Speaker 3: as lesbians and they will not date me. I am
Speaker 3: not on their criteria to be dated because I still have.
Speaker 5: I liked it.
Speaker 3: I had, and I have a permanent dick, so it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, not permanent, you know, but you know, but
Speaker 3: like they don't like that, so they I mean, it's
Speaker 3: a little one though, it's my clip. I mean, you
Speaker 3: have an extended clit.
Speaker 1: I thought you was going to say you got a
Speaker 1: little dick too.
Speaker 3: I'm saying you got an extended clit. So that's cool, Yeah,
Speaker 3: cool extended.
Speaker 5: So it's like it's not only everybody does it. Once
Speaker 5: he slapped the label on. It's like kind of like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm treating you like the lady.
Speaker 1: I've done that before. And I don't want to share
Speaker 1: too much. And I'm not sure how comfortable she wants
Speaker 1: me with this conversation with this, but I will say
Speaker 1: from my experience, when she told me that she did
Speaker 1: like interactions with women, it became something she had to
Speaker 1: suffer through when I was trying to have certain interactions
Speaker 1: because I kept saying, well, you like women, you like women,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So, like, you know, it
Speaker 1: became something she was like, I never I wish I
Speaker 1: never told you that because now you're always stolen it
Speaker 1: in my face as type of door opener for you
Speaker 1: or for what I told you before.
Speaker 5: And it was like, yo, I'm just always walk.
Speaker 1: Around with I like women like and that's something that
Speaker 1: you get to use. That was something I told you about.
Speaker 1: Leave it there, yeah, and let me open it when
Speaker 1: I'm ready to open it.
Speaker 3: And you'll see when when when the ones that's my
Speaker 3: type come around.
Speaker 5: But I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't need you to.
Speaker 1: That's bullshit, because I want to see you eat pussy too.
Speaker 3: But see that's the thing. Tell me you want to
Speaker 3: see me eat pussy instead of trying to show me
Speaker 3: every woman that who pussy you want me to eat? Right,
Speaker 3: Come talk to me and tell me like, oh I
Speaker 3: want I really I'm.
Speaker 5: Excited to see you eat a pussy and just leave
Speaker 5: it at that.
Speaker 3: Oh instead of him, instead of him like, oh, you
Speaker 3: want to eat her pussy? You like her, you think
Speaker 3: about her.
Speaker 1: That's the way he staided, like, let's eat her pussy.
Speaker 3: She's like, no, I don't, that's not That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: instead of going, let's eat her pussy, just the conversation
Speaker 3: of on some four place ship, I'm excited to like
Speaker 3: I've said this the term I'm so excited to eat
Speaker 3: a pussy with you?
Speaker 1: Why you said it like that? That was that was
Speaker 1: a bad I love the way you can turn that.
Speaker 1: Life is good. I've seen you Courtney.
Speaker 3: Before I did. I mean, it wasn't technical. It was
Speaker 3: just a little bit of a stroke.
Speaker 1: What is up with you? In the down and upstroke?
Speaker 3: That's how you stroke, That's how you hit that know
Speaker 3: because my my skirt short, I don't got that's got
Speaker 3: a strip a court you oh no closet.
Speaker 1: You can hold your st So what is the what
Speaker 1: is the thing? What is the motion? What is the yea?
Speaker 5: Even? Okay?
Speaker 3: So even if I'm if I'm sitting, because I would,
Speaker 3: I would hamp here, right you you still coming up?
Speaker 3: You would come up?
Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at that body, look at it. Listen.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for the visual going over the patreon,
Speaker 1: we are not posting on YouTube anymore. The visuals go
Speaker 1: on our patreon all right again, patreon dot com, backslash
Speaker 1: the heart orsoft show dot com to watch. Madam says stroke,
Speaker 1: Now what does that do? That down and up things?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah inside as a woman who receives it, it's
Speaker 3: like it hit that all and that spot that make
Speaker 3: your eye kind of.
Speaker 5: Twitch Yep, it's the crazy spot the crazy.
Speaker 3: Crazy, like the baby, like the doll, you know what
Speaker 3: with the broken eyes. Yes, you hit that that doll.
Speaker 1: What is something that you don't like about a stroke?
Speaker 1: What's a stroke that you don't like?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, the rabbit was gonna say the rabbit, the little
Speaker 3: humpers with the rabbit.
Speaker 5: I was actually watching a Mexican porn and the women
Speaker 5: were gorgeous and this man was just I was like,
Speaker 5: you are ruining this.
Speaker 3: And you can always tell because the pussy never went
Speaker 3: even important, It's always dry. It looked like it hurt.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh she hurting, Like there's a genuine
Speaker 3: he was his dick wasn't.
Speaker 5: Wasn't.
Speaker 1: What I do realize that there's different strokes for different moments. Yes, insects, yes,
Speaker 1: And so there's a stroke that you might start off with.
Speaker 1: There's one that gets the ship like super up, and
Speaker 1: then you got a killer a finisher. What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so knowing the body, paying attention to the women's body,
Speaker 1: to know which one is working and which one you
Speaker 1: need to get to right now is important. Where do
Speaker 1: you put when do you use the down and up.
Speaker 3: When I'm down and up, that's when you first and
Speaker 3: when I'm first entering from the back. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because then once you.
Speaker 5: Get it, you sure you got me talking?
Speaker 3: Listen, because then once you get it, you find you
Speaker 3: find your rhythm from there, and then from there she'll
Speaker 3: give you a rhythm and you can reminiscence. Side on
Speaker 3: the bed, legs up. That's a good one every time.
Speaker 3: That was my first strap experience was side on the
Speaker 3: bed legs up.
Speaker 5: I think I think for me, a good finisher for
Speaker 5: me is missionary legs pinned back.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that's a kind of the same.
Speaker 5: Do you really want to know?
Speaker 1: Now? Behind here?
Speaker 5: No, not that far.
Speaker 3: I'm almost I was at one point, and then i
Speaker 3: lost my flexibility on it. So I'm working on getting
Speaker 3: back there. Yeah, stretch, I do smart ass. They can
Speaker 3: they can get pretty far back, but they can't go
Speaker 3: behind my head. I could touch my ears exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I could touch my ears.
Speaker 1: But because you know the old ship we used to say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my favorite.
Speaker 1: All right, one thing that I wanted to bring up
Speaker 1: there was a post that I saw. Remember I was saying,
Speaker 1: something hurt. There's a post that I saw on the
Speaker 1: Condoms page. Shout out to be Condoms for doing so
Speaker 1: much good work talking about different sectional things. You can
Speaker 1: follow them on Condoms on Instagram. The post is how
Speaker 1: to play with his balls to drive him crazy. Baby
Speaker 1: girl knows that I'm starting to enjoy ballplayer, But she
Speaker 1: has a big butt, right stay with me. I'm behind her,
Speaker 1: but the butt is between me and she got your
Speaker 1: arms and a big butt.
Speaker 5: Why are you looking yesterday like that?
Speaker 1: Because you can see what he's doing. I can't now
Speaker 1: I'm behind her, and remember I'm stroking. She's trying to
Speaker 1: grab them all, but she's holding on for their life.
Speaker 1: The slapper all the way, bro.
Speaker 3: The way.
Speaker 1: I need a rub. I need a rub, and I
Speaker 1: need you to get up under them, but you can't
Speaker 1: grab them like this is not how we're doing it right.
Speaker 1: I had to get off. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Your balls are very sensitive, so you can't just doing
Speaker 1: I got your ball, you got my balls. I can't move.
Speaker 3: I be so gentle with the balls like I'm I'm
Speaker 3: I'm leaning in because I'd be like, oh, I want
Speaker 3: to hurt them if you ain't hurting me. So now
Speaker 3: like I put them all in my mouth and everything
Speaker 3: like that. That's I like to give the ball space.
Speaker 5: During head that's when they get space.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's a talent to ball player.
Speaker 5: There is because some men. I find that some men
Speaker 5: don't like ball play.
Speaker 3: No, yes, they don't want their balls touched. They're too afraid,
Speaker 3: like it's too sensitive. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Some women is mad rough too true, like yeah, the
Speaker 7: handy ship like.
Speaker 1: Crazy and they don't understand if there's an equivalent feeling
Speaker 1: for women. I'm not sure that can make y'all understand
Speaker 1: what ball the wrong ball play feels like. It's the
Speaker 1: balls have a it's like an energy around it around
Speaker 1: them all doing you could literally brush against a ball
Speaker 1: the it's like like it's so I don't think that
Speaker 1: y'all understand. This is a whole thing around those nuts.
Speaker 1: So you trying to go.
Speaker 3: Like we do understand now I'm going to speak for myself,
Speaker 3: but it's it's the equivalent I would say is when
Speaker 3: men are hitting what they think is the wall, and
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily the wall is the servant when they
Speaker 3: hit the Yes no no, no, no, that's not how
Speaker 3: to wait, hold on, that's not fair No, it is fear.
Speaker 3: How are you going to say that it's notice you
Speaker 3: don't have a service.
Speaker 1: You can't. So I understand that that's painful. I totally
Speaker 1: get that. Hear me out though you can't do anything
Speaker 1: to a ball like I can understand yo a nigga
Speaker 1: crashing the chip, and it's like Yo, that hurts. That hurts.
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you it hurts when you hit
Speaker 1: my ball. And that's where I think my eyes crossed.
Speaker 1: I cannot even talk to you. It's a different No.
Speaker 3: I get it where I'm speaking, Like I said, I'm
Speaker 3: speaking for myself. For me, I have been with men
Speaker 3: where their technique of how they had sex, especially if
Speaker 3: they're curved. I'm also tilted, they would sit on my
Speaker 3: service and it would put me in heavy pain, make
Speaker 3: me disassociate.
Speaker 5: So to them, they're thinking, I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm out this right associating because they finished, they think,
Speaker 3: ooh yeah, just do this thing. They have no idea.
Speaker 3: It was so painful. I disassociated. I had no pleasure whatsoever.
Speaker 3: I was ready for you to be done because I
Speaker 3: can't express to you that this hurt.
Speaker 5: Now I go home.
Speaker 3: Now, before I go home, my period's on my periods
Speaker 3: knocked on. Now I'm in cramps and now I'm hurting
Speaker 3: for days after. And while I received that, I understand
Speaker 3: it may be different. I'm just what you asked for
Speaker 3: was is there an equivalent? And to me, that will
Speaker 3: be the most equivalent that I could think of.
Speaker 1: All right, well that's the I'm going to receive that
Speaker 1: and stop it there, fellas, especially, that's another strike against you. Curved.
Speaker 1: Now stop playing. Okay. I can go left, I can
Speaker 1: go right. You curve niggas like this. You can't go left.
Speaker 1: I can't go left. Your ship pointed it right. You
Speaker 1: got to hit it with your elbow, can't. All I
Speaker 1: got to do is shift. Let me play right, play top,
Speaker 1: play bottom player. I can do whatever I want. Okay.
Speaker 5: He actually seeing this, guys, uh penis and it was
Speaker 5: like terribly curved.
Speaker 3: And I was like, who was enjoying?
Speaker 5: What you mean?
Speaker 3: Like like a U turn sort of like it was.
Speaker 5: It was a deep curve. And I was like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, how would anyone having sex with you.
Speaker 1: Around?
Speaker 3: Why would it do with us?
Speaker 1: I seen nigg and he was in the discord.
Speaker 3: I think I'm not going to say she was like see.
Speaker 1: Like going around the Jackie.
Speaker 5: Roback it up, pack it up. Thank you for me.
Speaker 1: Don't you play with his balls to drive him crazy?
Speaker 1: Right all right? Number one, cup and yes.
Speaker 3: I was going say, cup and hold is number one.
Speaker 1: Cradle his testicles in your hand, letting them rest naturally.
Speaker 1: This alone can feel comfortable and pleasurable. Use a gentle
Speaker 1: squeezing motion, almost like a soft massage, to stimulate the area.
Speaker 1: I don't think that y'all understand when I said that
Speaker 1: there's an aura around the balls. The cup and hold
Speaker 1: is like very like, very light, motherly, very like.
Speaker 5: And let the balls be oily or wet, y'all. You
Speaker 5: gotta let it be oily. And so when it's like real,
Speaker 5: when you real.
Speaker 3: Lubricating and stuff and the balls get real wet, the
Speaker 3: balls kind of move in your hand from like the
Speaker 3: spit and everything.
Speaker 1: Don't do that.
Speaker 5: No you don't, no, no, no, no, no, it's not
Speaker 5: it's not stressed.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 5: You just like you. I'm you see me, I'm like
Speaker 5: like a saucer.
Speaker 3: You just kind of hold like you see. I'm not
Speaker 3: even moving. I'm just moving the hand, not my fingers,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Number two this girl got cherries in her mouth. Put
Speaker 1: them in your mouth. Having his balls in your mouth
Speaker 1: is what would really drive him wild. Lick kiss and.
Speaker 5: What suck on them? I don't suck on them. I
Speaker 5: just sit them. You sit them.
Speaker 3: I don't suck you sit them in your mouth like a.
Speaker 5: I'm giving away the secrets.
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, what did.
Speaker 3: You want to say? What?
Speaker 9: It was going to sound crazy? I was going to say,
Speaker 9: like not me, but having a woman like what.
Speaker 7: You just said, madam, like.
Speaker 1: Like letting them dissolve.
Speaker 7: In your mouth.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, no, for sure, I feel sure the first one.
Speaker 5: I haven't done ball playing quite some time because like
Speaker 5: the men I have been dealing with, don't like it.
Speaker 5: So this is very interesting.
Speaker 1: I do believe that it's they don't like it because
Speaker 1: they are. Anytime you feel anxious, you're not gonna like it.
Speaker 1: That's almost like anal play. Once she's anxious, you have
Speaker 1: to release. You have to let go, not release, you
Speaker 1: have to let it go. Anxious, you're tight. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's not going to be. But if
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable a person is treating you with you know, care,
Speaker 1: you can enjoy it more. Number three grab his ball.
Speaker 1: See this one is tricky, So that one.
Speaker 3: Is what you grab is okay, you're going like kind
Speaker 3: of it's like a little light snug around the base plant,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's like just a very
Speaker 3: light And that's when you're giving them head.
Speaker 5: You hold that You're.
Speaker 3: A coinuch, a little coin you hold and you're not swing,
Speaker 3: you're not tightening it. You just holding it. So he
Speaker 3: could feel the security in that muff and you literally
Speaker 3: you'll feel his dick order. And that's when you really
Speaker 3: go in me.
Speaker 1: Like I said on the show before, I like when
Speaker 1: you gather them ships up and then like almost like
Speaker 1: a coin powder. So the pouch is up here and
Speaker 1: you got down here and them sh is just hanging
Speaker 1: off to the side of a little bit.
Speaker 3: So you want it held a little tighter.
Speaker 1: But you got my underdick.
Speaker 5: Okay, you got the underdick really hanging down. They just like,
Speaker 5: huld do this. It's hilarious. I'm just like like, I'm
Speaker 5: just like.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I enjoy. So this says, when he's
Speaker 1: banging you from behind and when you're riding him, just
Speaker 1: reach back, grab and caress his balls a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the grab nowhere to grab. But the caress this on
Speaker 1: the underdick. Give it a little mushing or what is
Speaker 1: this smushing on the underdick. But it's the underdick. It's
Speaker 1: not the balls himself. It's that bone.
Speaker 3: But like the tank area, I was gonna say, that's
Speaker 3: where you I rubbed the tank like a clip. You
Speaker 3: literally rub it like a clip. Oh man, you could
Speaker 3: feel It's almost like you could feel that prostate nowhere
Speaker 3: or something like that. You could feel the things like
Speaker 3: tapen up and start. Okay, this is what I'm not
Speaker 3: sure about.
Speaker 1: Make some noise. Take his balls in my mouth one
Speaker 1: at a time, and make humming sounds. The vibration, the
Speaker 1: vibrations feel amazing. Were drive him yesterday? You like that?
Speaker 1: That's what's the humming sound. It's a sound.
Speaker 3: Sound.
Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you can feel it. And then
Speaker 3: it's imagine the ball sounds a little bit like a
Speaker 3: scary movie.
Speaker 1: Yeahs mad scary. All right, I'm right, I'm gonna run through.
Speaker 1: Just go.
Speaker 3: They said, hmm popping.
Speaker 5: Why why look like that?
Speaker 1: He heard me say he broke his never hum on
Speaker 1: my balls. So I'm like, how do you know.
Speaker 3: Those girl, I'm on his balls the night. Now he'll
Speaker 3: be fine popping ice.
Speaker 1: Put ice in your mouth before sucking on his balls.
Speaker 1: He will almost pass out from pleasure. Fingernail scratches on
Speaker 1: your balls.
Speaker 3: Okay, I meanatives, I mean I'm not going. I've never
Speaker 3: scratch nobody's balls. I've never been not the balls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, queen is scratching over here?
Speaker 3: Oh stop it.
Speaker 1: Use your fingernails to lightly scratch his balls and trace
Speaker 1: the skin around them up and down side.
Speaker 5: Keees. This is a light tease.
Speaker 1: Light squeezing or pulling. For some men, a light squeeze
Speaker 1: or tug on the balls can feel incredible, but go slow,
Speaker 1: start with the lightest pressure and only if he's into it.
Speaker 1: And number eight include dirty talk or icon. Make the
Speaker 1: moment even giving dirty talk ortive icon.
Speaker 5: Yes, looking up.
Speaker 3: It's the up.
Speaker 5: It's the yeah, yeah, the up. It's the looking up.
Speaker 3: Every time, every time they do it for me, I'll
Speaker 3: be looking up and I'm like, I noticed, it's good,
Speaker 3: And then the next thing I know, I'm coming.
Speaker 5: Exactly Literally, none.
Speaker 1: Of you get off giving head. It's never happened to me.
Speaker 5: What crazy?
Speaker 1: The only time you.
Speaker 3: Can hear me come when I'm giving herd you cal
Speaker 3: what you can hear?
Speaker 1: You know, you shut up?
Speaker 5: Wait what?
Speaker 1: They starts fucking drawing the discord one day in their
Speaker 1: voice chat, it's about twenty of us in there. She
Speaker 1: must have caught a viot. This girl leaves her audio on.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 5: I was muted. I was muted and I got a call.
Speaker 5: If you get a phone call and unmute you, that's
Speaker 5: what happened.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even it, and my my camera was on
Speaker 3: and the call came through, and we didn't stop.
Speaker 5: I didn't get up and get this. He was listening.
Speaker 1: He was walking for about twenty five minutes. Easy to
Speaker 1: hear the neck. So are we thinking, hold on, we're
Speaker 1: thinking this is neck.
Speaker 3: It was, but it wasn't mean.
Speaker 1: This girl pussy makes like do you shut up? Gurgling noises,
Speaker 1: gurgling noises.
Speaker 3: Ah my buggy.
Speaker 5: It always was.
Speaker 1: See we're like, yo, oh, she's swallowing this nigga ship.
Speaker 1: She comes back on, she's embarrassed or whatever, and I
Speaker 1: make the noise. She's like, oh no, that's that's the
Speaker 1: noise my pussy makes. I'm like, I'm.
Speaker 3: Weeping, she'sping. I'm super creeping, but my song sounding that
Speaker 3: my smell sounds more like Farting's like it's like like
Speaker 3: but it doesn't make the gar It gurgles and it's
Speaker 3: spits like we Yeah, we had we had a session
Speaker 3: during my cycle the other day and we got clarity
Speaker 3: on how the trajectory because you know, it was.
Speaker 5: Like where did it.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's a straight shooter for.
Speaker 7: A little.
Speaker 5: It was just a little like.
Speaker 1: It's kind of made that noise. Yeah, oh no.
Speaker 3: We got a video of a bubble coming out one time. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we got a videos my pussy blowing a bubble that.
Speaker 1: Blew up a bubble.
Speaker 3: Tell the people thank you.
Speaker 1: Like like like he ca it on he.
Speaker 3: Caught it on cameras it blew a spit bubble. Yeah
Speaker 3: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It should be doing magic. Look how do you see?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Like what was you doing while
Speaker 1: the pussy just blowing a bubble? Was she just playing
Speaker 1: with herself or did it like pop up over your dick?
Speaker 1: Like it was like I was, yeah, and she was
Speaker 1: just kind of like grinding and it started in a bubble.
Speaker 5: That's fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that magic mount you heard the magic mountain? Magic? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we are here on your hard a soft show.
Speaker 1: I should, madam say, you have listened to the show
Speaker 1: quite some time, for quite some time, so I'm assuming
Speaker 1: you know what segments we're getting into, the hard or the.
Speaker 5: The what for me?
Speaker 3: Since I don't have my click, my little dick, I
Speaker 3: got a little clique like a little click dick. It's
Speaker 3: not big, but it's big to me. That's what matters.
Speaker 1: People like about sex, things that make us wet or hard.
Speaker 3: Mmm, I think.
Speaker 5: Is it what I like? Boyorism watching people have sex.
Speaker 3: I like to hear people have sex like that's that's
Speaker 3: my jam. I like the realness of it, though not poorn.
Speaker 3: I was watching y'all at I didn't well, I mean,
Speaker 3: tonayy is fine, all right, your partner is fine and ship.
Speaker 3: So to have the opportunity to just you know, be
Speaker 3: near her, of course I'm gonna take it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that that part was fine.
Speaker 1: We got them, We got them. So what does voyeurism
Speaker 1: do for you?
Speaker 3: It lets me explore who I would lay with, to
Speaker 3: be honest. For me, it lets me see who would
Speaker 3: be ooh that would be fun. It lets me see
Speaker 3: where uh my sex is in common see how people
Speaker 3: please each other. And also sometimes they can teach me,
Speaker 3: like how people may forget about their partner.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: You can the moments where you can see the one
Speaker 3: person be so into whatever is happening that they forget
Speaker 3: that the other person exists and it becomes so much
Speaker 3: about them. They get to their pleasure and they forget
Speaker 3: that they have a partner to please. To like watching
Speaker 3: those moments, those.
Speaker 5: It's sickening.
Speaker 3: It is really sickening. And it kind of always looks
Speaker 3: the same, unfortunate, especially at the sex clubs. It looks
Speaker 3: the same. Women go on their knees, they give had,
Speaker 3: they turn over, they get on the thing, they get
Speaker 3: bent over, they get fucked from the back. The man
Speaker 3: comes and it's done normally. He just only ate my pussy.
Speaker 3: By the time we have people around us that then came, came,
Speaker 3: sat down while he was eating my pussy. They started
Speaker 3: getting head started having sex. He sol you pussy and
Speaker 3: they then came.
Speaker 1: That used to be how I had sex almost every time,
Speaker 1: though that's sad get head, bend over rail.
Speaker 5: Not uber, But where's the pleasure in that? Even for you?
Speaker 3: Like, but where was the pleasure? And that even for you,
Speaker 3: where did you explore yourself? Is that why you explore
Speaker 3: yourself so much?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 1: I think I think for a long time, sex for
Speaker 1: me was more about dominance and you doing this, you
Speaker 1: pleasuring me, and the fact that I got you doing that,
Speaker 1: and the fact that you want to do it. So
Speaker 1: that wasn't really about your pleasure at all. It was
Speaker 1: more about the fact that, oh she's not she wants
Speaker 1: to suck my ship, Oh she wants me to fuck her,
Speaker 1: and oh I want her to leave. So that was it,
Speaker 1: and that was a rotating door for very long, very long,
Speaker 1: very long, even into my relationship. Now, well I didn't.
Speaker 1: I think I said this so on last week's episode.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between people who want to give pleasure
Speaker 1: and people who want to fuck. It's just different people,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: Ways of the people that and people that fun show
Speaker 5: up the same way.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a pleasure person, Me and Sherman both with
Speaker 3: pleasure even with and we know we can't. We're being
Speaker 3: mindful of that, right because we're pleasure people and most
Speaker 3: people are just here to fuck. So if we're pleasure,
Speaker 3: we're here to give to make sure that the person
Speaker 3: we're with receives the most pleasures possible. Most of the
Speaker 3: times they kind of get a little stupid because they're
Speaker 3: not used to that. So we're real mindful with those
Speaker 3: type of things. But I'm here for pleasure. If it's
Speaker 3: not about the pleasure, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: Can you teach somebody who just wants to fuck how
Speaker 1: to get pleasure?
Speaker 3: I think you can if because they just want to
Speaker 3: funk simply because that's what they're used to.
Speaker 5: They're used to just sucking.
Speaker 3: The moment someone sucks them back, they will be here
Speaker 3: for the pleasure. Yeah, Yeah, they're like, what happened? I mean,
Speaker 3: what listen? You have believe a nigga in it's bad
Speaker 3: you h And he's like like, where are you going?
Speaker 1: Yes, you came here just.
Speaker 3: To pretty much thank you for your time.
Speaker 1: Isn't it?
Speaker 5: Isn't it? Isn't it?
Speaker 3: It's crazy?
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly. Wow.
Speaker 7: You know what I don't like.
Speaker 9: I don't like waking up in the middle of the
Speaker 9: night and the person's already dressed, tapping me like yo,
Speaker 9: like they woke.
Speaker 5: You up right, I wouldn't like. I don't want to
Speaker 5: cut one. If you don't want to, you don't want
Speaker 5: to do a.
Speaker 1: Little, a little like we wake up and she's going already.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that was me. If you're not my man,
Speaker 3: I'm out if you If you want to sleep, you
Speaker 3: want to sleep. There has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 3: I never said.
Speaker 5: I was saying the night, bro, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I hate when a pussy wins. Period. Yes, that's not
Speaker 1: not now now, I like, yeah, do me slept me
Speaker 1: the funk out. Yeah. There's been a time when I
Speaker 1: fell asleep and I woke up and she was just
Speaker 1: looking at me sleep and I was like, damn, damn,
Speaker 1: and she had that disappointed look, like look at this nigga.
Speaker 1: One trick pony couldn't take one trick pony. That was
Speaker 1: the last time I hit that. Yeah, all right. The
Speaker 1: soft things people don't like about sex, things that make
Speaker 1: us soft.
Speaker 3: When your partner don't know what they're doing because they
Speaker 3: won't listen to you, that'll make you soft man, when
Speaker 3: you're when you're expressing like, hey, I don't want you
Speaker 3: to eat my pussy. I had a person one time.
Speaker 3: I think he thought eating pussy meant literally eating pussy,
Speaker 3: so he would bite it like and he had big teeth,
Speaker 3: so it was like really hard, like he had big
Speaker 3: mouth be teeth, Yeah, he had those, and he was
Speaker 3: a handsome man. But every time he went to just
Speaker 3: go down there was like hai, and it was like
Speaker 3: uh yo, And I get it because that's the thing
Speaker 3: for some people to bite it not me. You know
Speaker 3: that ouch that hurts, that that get me soft or dry?
Speaker 1: Jesus, Look, so what did he nibble on the lips?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: It was like the whole he went up.
Speaker 3: I think he was like yes, yes, like like a
Speaker 3: like a he was trying to put his whole mouth
Speaker 3: over and I guess be sexy. But his teeth would
Speaker 3: always like grays and he had a big mouth, so
Speaker 3: and I was skinnier then, so my gosh, it was
Speaker 3: it was like I would feel his teeth kind of
Speaker 3: near my ass and then his teeth at the top
Speaker 3: of Yeah, it was a lot that sounded.
Speaker 5: And he would keep him there and then move his tongue.
Speaker 3: So to him, he's moving his tongue, so he felt
Speaker 3: like he was on something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, teeth is not a good thing.
Speaker 5: Se nod not during head but by my nipples. But
Speaker 5: did you did you endure it?
Speaker 3: Like did you just then I did because I was young.
Speaker 3: I was yeah, back then, I did endure it and
Speaker 3: I just like, hmmm.
Speaker 1: It was like.
Speaker 3: And that's why I learned how to speak up, because
Speaker 3: that was not comfortable and I never came. But because
Speaker 3: I'm a girly who's always wet, he thought that I
Speaker 3: was like, I was excited and I'm just always what
Speaker 3: that has nothing to.
Speaker 1: Do with it.
Speaker 3: She's always.
Speaker 5: Splash waterfalls.
Speaker 3: My grandma said, to speak truth.
Speaker 1: So, madam, you talking about the Temple of Euphoria, right
Speaker 1: that is your part cast? Where can they find it?
Speaker 5: You can find it right now on YouTube.
Speaker 3: We are airing. The first episode will be coming out
Speaker 3: April fourth. We are excited for the pilot to drop
Speaker 3: where we explain to you what temple is, and then
Speaker 3: the extra episodes that will come. Every Wednesday we will
Speaker 3: be airing at eight pm on YouTube. We'll be dropping
Speaker 3: it and the audio and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm excited. I'm actually excited to have you
Speaker 3: on because what I do is when we have guests on,
Speaker 3: I make sure I cater the topic around the guests
Speaker 3: and what expertise in kink that you bring. So I
Speaker 3: want to talk to you about parties and ship like.
Speaker 1: The parties, bds, getting into all of that.
Speaker 3: I can't wait bringing kink into your relationship. I feel
Speaker 3: like that's what the kind.
Speaker 1: Of start my relationship started with kink.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I feel like that would be
Speaker 3: a great conversation to have with you, with the people,
Speaker 3: to have that conversation about how do you whether you
Speaker 3: are introducing your partner to king or if you met
Speaker 3: your partner through kink, how do you navigate that right?
Speaker 3: Because it's such a it's such a a tricky space
Speaker 3: if you if you are more advanced than your partner
Speaker 3: is and they're still learning right and you have to
Speaker 3: be the patient one, and those kinds of things. So
Speaker 3: I think that would be a great conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm not going to say that. We'll
Speaker 1: wait to your show. Okay, we'll wait to your show.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling about today? You're good?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you go home. It's neat.
Speaker 5: How did you know how did you know she always
Speaker 5: ready to eat always?
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, us man?
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to the people to know?
Speaker 3: Making sure I have a pro I do develop programs
Speaker 3: so during at night, you know, Madam says coach at night,
Speaker 3: but during the day, I am coach and coach balo me.
Speaker 3: So what I do is I'm a liberation coach and
Speaker 3: I hope people kind of do this thing where you
Speaker 3: get out of your head so that you can get
Speaker 3: into whatever it is that you get into. And I
Speaker 3: put together a program called Unbound. It's a ninety day program.
Speaker 3: It runs at the end of each year, and it's
Speaker 3: for entrepreneurs. And I'm bringing that up because a lot
Speaker 3: of times people think that, oh, that's just for vanilla
Speaker 3: and it's like, no, sex workers are entrepreneurs. You need
Speaker 3: a space that you can come to that is going
Speaker 3: to be judgment free and do the things where you're
Speaker 3: making sure that you're giving yourself space about what's happening
Speaker 3: in your life so that the business and services that
Speaker 3: you provide to others isn't interfering, right, and you're doing
Speaker 3: it clear mind, clear heart, clear conscious and preparing for
Speaker 3: the next year of your business.
Speaker 1: Do you think that you could do so when you
Speaker 1: say you're a coach, what kind of coach? Like? What
Speaker 1: do you think your strength is away from business?
Speaker 10: Like?
Speaker 1: What do you think your strength.
Speaker 3: Solve when it come aland mindset. I help you get
Speaker 3: mindset and healing. That's my that I only can talk
Speaker 3: about what I've been through.
Speaker 1: And I've heard you speak to so many people in
Speaker 1: the discord about what they're going through, and you express
Speaker 1: yourself so well, and you're able to look look into
Speaker 1: what's affecting them or looking to what you see and
Speaker 1: break it down and give them cues or clues on
Speaker 1: where they need to go. Right, do you think that
Speaker 1: you would be able to help, like, say me right?
Speaker 1: Say if I was having a block and my relationship
Speaker 1: about say lifestyle, say say I'm sure, say I'm my
Speaker 1: I'm monogamous and your Polly, would you maybe to help
Speaker 1: me deal with my issues my feelings or emotions around that.
Speaker 3: Yes, and how you express yourself and where it probably
Speaker 3: ties to your trauma and the parts on you that
Speaker 3: may not be communicating as effective as you would like.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I'd love to talk to you about
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Okay, I might call you on that
Speaker 1: for real.
Speaker 5: No, for sure?
Speaker 1: Where can people contact you for that?
Speaker 3: My website is Aisha coachbelame dot com, a y s
Speaker 3: Aja coachbella me dot com.
Speaker 5: That's that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1: We will that into the episode descriptions. I think that's really.
Speaker 3: Exciting, tho I would like, No, that's my main thing.
Speaker 3: Like I could talk kink and do the stuff like that,
Speaker 3: but what I really lean in on is the healing part. Right,
Speaker 3: Because we can talk all of these things, but are
Speaker 3: you talking from a place of true pleasure or are
Speaker 3: you talking from your trauma?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: And it's important to identify when you're communicating from your trauma,
Speaker 3: because you may be sexually trauma binding with someone and
Speaker 3: you don't know it because you haven't leaned into that
Speaker 3: hard conversation with self.
Speaker 1: So what does that look like if you're doing it
Speaker 1: just because of trauma versus the other way?
Speaker 5: It looks like a lot of disassociation.
Speaker 3: It looks like a lot of multiple partners, or it
Speaker 3: could look like the same partner but you're doing things
Speaker 3: in a sneaky manner. It can look like you're in
Speaker 3: a marriage but your partner has no idea you're in kink.
Speaker 3: It can look like being in a community and your
Speaker 3: partner doesn't actually know you're in this community. It can
Speaker 3: look like not having a partner and saying you're Polly
Speaker 3: when you're not actually Polly. You just want to cheat
Speaker 3: on people because you're not actually communicating any of the things.
Speaker 3: It can also look like you want to have some
Speaker 3: impact play and while you're having that play, you didn't
Speaker 3: realize that you're not actually enjoying it, that there's an
Speaker 3: association with this paying part and you disassociate and you're
Speaker 3: not actually present like you need to be. It can
Speaker 3: look like you're saying yes to a threesome with your
Speaker 3: partner that you never really want it because you want
Speaker 3: to please this person and not lose this relationship versus
Speaker 3: doing what makes you happy.
Speaker 1: I think she was, oh, man, that was good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 5: Are have tapped in?
Speaker 1: And that there's so many questions that I have?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we gotta we can't.
Speaker 1: She's like, you spoke about food where he is?
Speaker 5: I already know what I'm eating when I started dissociated.
Speaker 1: Let's do a Patreon about that. Let's do a Patreon
Speaker 1: episode about that. I'm gonna ask my wife what she's
Speaker 1: comfortable with me asking about our life or whatever. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll put it on the Patreon. Let's see. But if not,
Speaker 1: I would like to have coaching with you, pressure, pressure,
Speaker 1: and I welcome anybody else to speak to it. When
Speaker 1: I tell you this woman is a gem y yo,
Speaker 1: break this ship the fuck down. Listen to the Temple
Speaker 1: of Euphoria. But also if you are in Kingo, if
Speaker 1: you are in a relationship, if you're in the lifestyle,
Speaker 1: or if you are a sex worker, consider reaching out
Speaker 1: to her on Ayisha Madam, say at g Gmail, doctor,
Speaker 1: that's it wrong.
Speaker 12: He put all the names, say everything, do everything we
Speaker 12: put it and he said and he said that Gmail, yo, Madam.
Speaker 7: I used to say at high Outlook, Microsoft Outlook.
Speaker 1: That's what she said.
Speaker 3: If it is my email, you want to go to, madam,
Speaker 3: say six nine at Gmail. What I said when I
Speaker 3: talked about coaching is asha coach Bellamy dot com.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's for for the coaching.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's that's.
Speaker 1: New York City.
Speaker 3: We won't put them all in there.
Speaker 5: Black.
Speaker 1: I was trying to say something. I was trying to
Speaker 1: be poignant.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's I'm here for it. I'm here for bless.
Speaker 1: You your coach.
Speaker 3: Be like Bill Bellamy.
Speaker 1: I just shut up. My mom is still trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 3: That's what she said.
Speaker 7: In this show.
Speaker 1: All right, we're here.
Speaker 5: This is a good one.
Speaker 1: And talk to her. She can help you work through
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. See, y'all stopped me in
Speaker 1: the middle of doing what I was gonna do anyway, sex, love,
Speaker 1: relationships and accountability. It's been a hell of a show.
Speaker 1: The show, this show. I don't know why y'all did that.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fun I was trying to.
Speaker 3: Do?
Speaker 1: You ever say Gmail