Speaker 1: Let's start to Yoda Presents Off the Bench with Jacob
Hester and Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 1: You're locked in to Off the Bench control the Live
from downtown Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2: Here's Jacob Hess and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: Yo, welcome in o TV here on this Tuesday morning.
Jake Flynn, a landre a Tate all here with you
after a long Monday football evening. Uh we are back
here with a couple of doves though.
Speaker 5: Yeah we are Foxhole big Ball.
Speaker 4: How did it feel first time out? Written for your
new squad?
Speaker 5: What a game?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: What a game?
Speaker 7: They made it a game? Try to give that thing away?
Really really fun fun fourth quarter?
Speaker 6: So your first week as a fan of the Bugs, Like,
how was your fandom? Are you still getting used to it?
Did you cheer for the wrong team a couple of times?
Speaker 3: Like I did?
Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Uh, that's fine.
Speaker 5: I mean again, it's fine, kind of weird.
Speaker 7: It wasn't new, I guess I should say, like I've
always kind of chewed for them in the background, you know.
The last couple of years, so it wasn't anything.
Speaker 5: Like side piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah they were. They were the side piece. Now it's official.
Speaker 4: It's he's pretty simple.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's a good who's a fun game.
Speaker 6: I enjoyed watching that game because Baker is an animal
playing so well, but he's just so funny to watch.
He's got this attitude, got a chip on his shoulder.
He scrambles late in the game and gets hurt, falls
on his knee and it looks like he's hurting his knee,
but then like I don't think, like, I don't think
he had time in his brain to even be hurt
because he realized he had to get up and start
talking trash, right, He's like, wait a minute, I gotta
talk trash. So he got up to he's like Chauncey Gardoner, Johnson,
Johncy like standing over him. I can just like hear
Chauncey just saying, like, you know, calling him names like
get up off the ground.
Speaker 3: Because I think he originally hurt the knee on the
sack in the first half.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that one looks like that was a little
bit more like yeah, okay, I can see your getting
hurt there. But yeah, he's like, wait a minute, I
can't be hurt. I don't have time for this. I
gotta talk trash. He got up and he did. He
did just that.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So they when twenty to nineteen over the
Texans how to huck take it? Did you watch the game?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: He did. He wasn't like thrilled, but he also no,
he was actually upset.
Speaker 6: I was trying to think about because he watched I
let him watch a little bit of the second game too,
school night. Who uh my oldest watch all of it? Oopsies.
Speaker 5: So he was, uh yeah, he was pretty upset.
Speaker 4: He was cheering pretty hard. What I thought they were
going to like explode a year and a half ago.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: Actually I went to the playoff game where they beat
the hell out of the Chargers.
Speaker 6: Like, I don't know, there's something. There's something a little
off about the old Texans, I know, being I mean.
Speaker 7: We're talking about it before the game, Like I'm not
saying they're bad, but like when that game ended, I
was like, why are the Texans not better? Like I
looked at their past rush like you got Anderson and
Danil Hunter, you have Stingley, Jalen Petree. The defense is great,
if Stroud you have all these weapons, why aren't they better?
They're not a bad team, like Tamika Ryans has won
ten games back to back years. Yeah, but there's something
missing and I don't really know what it is.
Speaker 6: They're kind of like, I don't want to say this,
but they're kind of like the Chargers have been right,
the extremely talent. Hey, great, there a lot of positive
energy coming at you today, so relax. I'm just saying
they have a really good defense.
Speaker 4: Hackers get one elite pass rusher.
Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, like they the Texas have a really good defense.
They got Scott C. J. Stroud, who everybody is high on,
who's a really good player. But there's just something about
them right now.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: They got to find their stride. But they're young, they're talented.
Nico Collins is a great player. I agree with you, though, Taylor, like,
why aren't they better?
Speaker 4: And I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that, no idea. But
I'll tell you what Baker's.
Speaker 4: Competitor and and who is a good team? You're Chargers.
Speaker 6: Oh, thank you. I don't think I've ever heard you
say that they are good. They are pretty good. Look
I don't know. I hadn't watched every game. I'm about
ready to crown Derwin James Junior is the best safety
in the league. There's only been two games. You're saying
are like the total the NFL. I'm saying, I think
he's he's got to be the best safety in the NFL.
Speaker 4: R Yeah, he's playing pretty well.
Speaker 6: Let me think of I mean, that guy was all
over the place, from rushing the passer to knocking big
plays like not the ball down in big plays down
a distance.
Speaker 5: The guy was all over the place. He's fun to watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is. And not on wood because you have
been with me long enough. Uh. I think the Chargers
are really good, like you're hesitant to say it, Like
I think they're really good. Herbert looks different. He looks
fully healthy for the first time in a long time.
Receivers look great. Ladarius out there still making plays. Keenan
Allen bag gives you another safety blanket. They're not very
dynamic and tied end that that worries you a little bit.
Speaker 5: Who's your other.
Speaker 4: Receiver blanking on his name? Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson turns
out he can catch, turns.
Speaker 6: Out in a row I'm sitting on a pretty good
Quentin Johnson card too.
Speaker 4: There you go. That's how we view the NFL.
Speaker 5: That's all you like, if people are good or not. Like,
I know C. J.
Speaker 6: Stroud's good because this card market is pretty up there,
so I'm like, yeah, he's got to be good, right,
it's fair card.
Speaker 4: People know it is fair. And I know we're bouncing
back and forth between the two games. Chargers did beat
the Raiders twenty No, it's good. Uh, But to make
it relevant to what we talk about every single day,
Bucks and Falcons look pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah they do.
Speaker 4: Now the Panthers look like some hot garbage. Sorry, Memphis,
if you're already in the car listening.
Speaker 5: They're bad, bad, bad.
Speaker 4: So you're not the worst. But I think the South
looks better than people were giving it credit for coming
into the season. And i'd include the Saints in that growth,
in that development. But the Bucks look good. The Falcons
look good against the Vikings kind of winning an ugly
game where you don't score a lot of points and
your defense comes up and you've been so bad getting
after the quarterback and then all of a sudden you
use two first round picks and hey, guess what you
spend draft capital and edge rushers, you might be better
getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns out if you pay really good players,
your team gets better.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Just funny how that works.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.
Speaker 4: Well, don't understand that the Cowboys pay people, just not
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3: Hey, they got your Davian Clowney guys, it's fun.
Speaker 4: They paid a guard ninety million tight.
Speaker 7: End they did, know to your point, to the Trocah,
like the Panthers in the Saints at least first two weeks,
like they're not getting blown out. Like the win loss
record at the end of the year may not look great,
but they're tough howls.
Speaker 5: And the Panthers yeah, Caroline, Yeah, I mean what they.
Speaker 7: Lost by four or five on Sunday, Like they're a
tough out. And then when you look at the Bucks,
like a lot of people like you know, my buddy
Mount was texting me last night saying, hey, why the
Bucks offense stole out after the first two drops.
Speaker 3: They were down three offensive linemen after the.
Speaker 7: First Like after the second possession, Luke Geticky went down,
who probably shouldn't have played anyways, like that game's probably
different if he doesn't go down. And then the Falcons,
I mean, they're getting better and better. It's a pretty
good division.
Speaker 6: I mean see, yeah, I mean every you should be
a tough out if you're an NFL football team, right,
you should be. And but I agree, the NSS South
was like NFC South was not very well thought of
except for the Buccaneers. But yeah, I think remember, yeah,
the ESPN roster ranking it had like the Bucks at
like eleven and then the Falcons were.
Speaker 4: Like twenty four.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: The Panthers were what twenty nine to thirty, and the
Saints for thirty two.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: It's much better than that.
Speaker 6: It is much better because the NFC South has two
real teams, two real teams this year.
Speaker 5: The Falcons are going to be real. We've said it here.
Speaker 6: Michael Pennocks junior is going to be a problem in
that division. He's going to be one of these guys
that I believe is going to get better and better
and better, and they're going to be able to build
that team on a rookie quarterback contract for a couple
of years, which is a huge deal.
Speaker 5: But you know, now you got the resurgence of our
gut Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 4: Although you are paying Kirk Cousins, so actually kind of
like cancel each other out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to psycho out enough to know what
those like Kirk Cousins dead cap spaces or whatever it
is on the team. I guess yet a uniform and everything.
Speaker 5: How would you feel about that if you was on
the team.
Speaker 4: How did you feel for your Kirk Cousins going back
to a place where you were kind of a star
and you're a backup? Yeah, like you did going to Minnesota.
Speaker 6: Yeah, are like this publicly kind of tarnishing that organization
on the Netflix documentary? Yeah, I don't know. Kind of weird.
I bet there's a.
Speaker 5: Player only meaning about it. Oh did you hear it?
Speaker 6: Well, we forgot to talk about it last I think
last week the Dolphins had a player only meeting. After
week went week one week one player only meaning, good
for them, he's got to take control. You gotta take
control of the narative.
Speaker 4: I wonder how much of the message changed from the
last day of the preseason to the first day of
the second week of the season. How different is that message?
Speaker 6: Hey you guys, well we suck, so let's get the
coaches out of here.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Who do you think talks in that? Meaning? Mmm?
Speaker 6: For the Dolphins, Tyree kill for better or worse? Probably probably,
I mean Jayalen wattles quiet to his quiet who it
probably talks, but it's probably boring, right, It probably doesn't
make sense because of all the brain bruises. Yeah, I
get it, you're probably right right? Not player only A
meeting after week one didn't didn't help. Yeah, they lost
in heartbreaking fashion.
Speaker 3: Did you hear Mike McDaniel's post games on Sunday?
Speaker 5: I saw a clip.
Speaker 7: I don't remember what he basically said, like, well, I
mean in football, you either win the game or lose
the game, and we lost the game.
Speaker 5: Facts, I mean that's a true fact.
Speaker 3: I mean I can't I can't fact check.
Speaker 5: You think you would have a better answer.
Speaker 8: That's where you made a mistake thinking he would have
a better answer.
Speaker 5: Good point. That little like him, But I don't at
all why.
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 7: He always had this little shtick of like I'm too
cool to care type of thing.
Speaker 3: He was also nerdy at the same.
Speaker 6: Time, be a little bit more like Bear Bryant, smart Bear.
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know how long old MIC's gonna be
losing games like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he'll be the He'll be the OC for
the Lions next year, for sure.
Speaker 4: It makes sense, makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 6: Actually, since we're jumping around like from to every NFL
team in this first segment of them, I might as
well bring up the Panthers again and talk about Taylor.
Brought this to my attention yesterday. Thank you for that
fact check. One of my big bold predictions for the
season was Panthers receiver Exavier Lagett was gonna get one
thousand plus receiving yards this year.
Speaker 4: He's gonna.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a little update.
Speaker 6: We're gonna he's gonna pop off this year because because uh,
you know, Bryce young he was he finished the season
strong last year. Their offense with dynamic, they get rid
of feeling who was because they have.
Speaker 5: All this this young talent.
Speaker 6: They got a first round receiver that's gonna take take
some of the pressure off Exaberly. He's gonna really pop
this year. And you know, we got a lot of
time left. There's a lot of season left, sixteen games.
But the first week not great. What do we have
ten yards receiving? Taylor how many receiving yards.
Speaker 5: Does he have? Week two he had negative two. Okay,
so now so I.
Speaker 6: Went into the week two he needed nine to ninety
for me to put that turnover chain on. This week
we're going into week three, we need nine to ninety two.
Speaker 5: Got it?
Speaker 4: Hey, how are you feeling?
Speaker 5: Feeling? Not bad? Not bad.
Speaker 6: It's a long season. Seventeen games, I mean there's fifteen
games left. Yeah, yeah, I mean plenty of people have
got a thousand yards in fifteen games. Plenty of people
will say he set a record, like you know, Jerry.
Speaker 4: Rice probably yeah, probably like Tim Brown.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he set a record most targets in a
game with negative receiving yards.
Speaker 3: Eight eight targets was good for negative two yards.
Speaker 5: That is what that is.
Speaker 6: Remarkable. That's remarkable, pretty good. That really brought down Bryce
Bryce's yards per attempt.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I wonder what that is for the season. You
know what can't be good?
Speaker 4: All Saints fans everywhere should feel thankful for the Carolina Panthers.
They're not the worst. They're not.
Speaker 6: Well, we'll see, I don't think they are. We're gonna
find out. What was the score against Arizona for the
Saints twenty thirteen. Yeah, so they lost by seven. Ye,
the Panthers lost to the to the Cardinals by five.
Speaker 4: All right, we're not doing that this morning. We're not
starting it off like that. We'll take a break. Unfortunately,
we we do have like an injury to LSU's quarterback
that we didn't really know about. That I gotta ask
you about because I don't know what it's like throwing
the football with an injury, and you probably do. So
we're gonna ask you about that when we come back.
We're gonna get the show started. OTB, stay locked in
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We talked so much about the knee injury that really
wasn't a big deal in training camp for garretts Meyer.
Speaker 5: You know you talking about what his fell off.
Speaker 4: It went leg fell off and everybody came again and
he had like a minor Great they did, great, you
had a minor sprain there. We've seen you know, a
Nie sleeve here and there still like sometimes a practice
whatever from some of the photos that we've seen them
put out, so we like we've known that that's been
a part of the first couple of games for Garrettsmeyer.
But it turns out Brian Kelly said yesterday that he's
been nursing a torso injury, and uh, hey, t do
we have that? Sound all right, let's go ahead and play.
Here is Brian Kelly talking about nus Meyer and this
injury that we didn't really know he had.
Speaker 10: I'll be honest, and I wasn't going to get into this,
but with you guys, I will.
Speaker 5: You know, he's been slowed a.
Speaker 10: Little bit with a torso injury, and he's fighting through it,
and he's getting better, and he's not going to be
able to really shut it down until we get to
the bye week. And I'm not saying that that has
had any of his troubles. I think he is a
symptom of what I just answered from Wilson in that
you know, we're not ripping it, you know on fourth down,
you know, we're taking some plays away from him as well,
and he's done a really good job. I think he
managed the run game as well.
Speaker 5: As he has all year.
Speaker 10: We got to let him get the ball out to
the playmakers. That would be more of what has to happen,
and then we've got to keep him healthy.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll throw it to our quarterback because well,
I've never thrown a football with a torso injury, and
I've never thrown a football in a game, and that
feels like a body part that it is not ideal
to be able to let it rip if you have
any kind of torso abdomen. I don't know. Yeah, well,
on where it's at.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of depends on what I mean, I
guess it doesn't. It doesn't depend on where it is.
But like a torso injury is a torso injury, it's
got to be some sort of ab muscle pull pull
or some sort of most muscle pul I don't know
what other injury it could be, which is highly effect.
Speaker 5: That would be a little.
Speaker 6: Bit more serious, though I think that. I mean, that's
I mean, I'm assuming there's probably grades but the surgery
when it's like a sports herney situation, but it's got
to be some sort of muscle pull or aggravation or something.
Speaker 5: But I can tell you the way, if you have
a powerful.
Speaker 6: Onm like all throwers, all swingers are all kickers, your
power comes from your rotation, right, It's not then come
from big strong arm. It comes from how you your
timing of the rotation of your hips and your and
your lower body and then can you time up your
arm and sync it up with that. But you know,
the harder you throw it, the more torque is produced
with your hips and the rotation, so you spin harder
and what I mean spind You spin your hips harder
the harder you hit it. That's why I like a
golfer that is, you know, five to six about twenty five,
can hit it farther than the strongest guy in the
world because they create they create speed. So the faster
you spend, the faster you can move your arm. The
faster the better leverage, and the faster the ball speed. Yeah,
so of course that's going to make a big difference.
And Garrett is so talented with his arm. We've seen
it for two years now and real action started last
year than the year before that, and some backup duties,
and we saw it in the Bowl game versus Wisconsin.
Speaker 5: Like we know he can make all the throws.
Speaker 6: So when I look back on games, when I look
back at Louisian attack early on and he throws a
deep ball that's ten yards behind the receiver, you start
putting the pieces together. Now that Brian Kelly says this,
you start looking at the evidence on the field, and
it makes sense, right, it makes sense that he hasn't
been able to make all the throws, especially when your
foot when your feet get when.
Speaker 5: Everything's not perfect.
Speaker 6: So when everything's not perfect, like if your feet are
right under you, like you're warming up, the pocket's cleaned,
everything is perfect, it's easy to you know, keep your
shoulder closed. It's easy to kind of protect that. What's
what's painful. But when your feet get out of whack,
when you're having to move in the pocket, move around,
and your feet, like, you still have to create torque
in different ways.
Speaker 5: You still have to create torque.
Speaker 6: But let's just say if you know how you normally throw,
like you stand up and you know your your your
feet are parallel, your shoulders point at your target foot,
you step perfectly. But let's just say your feet are
spread out, yeah, and they're not they're they're both of
your feet are Pope pointing at the target. So then
you've got to really close your left shoulder down. Now
you've got to create a lot of torque. And so
when that happens, I can and see how torso injury
would be very effective. And I think we saw that
in the D ball and we've seen that he's just
he hadn't you know, he's looking good at times, but
he's making some throws they're a little bit uncharacteristic to
what we've seen and like if he was a brand
new starter, you wouldn't be able to have those tails.
But we've seen him make every single throw consistently on
the football field, So you know, if he's not wincing
though he's not like, it can't be so bad that
a little lot of profin's not helping it. But I
think it's.
Speaker 4: When the strongest thing, uh.
Speaker 5: Real high powered. But I don't know, I mean, it's
just my curiosity.
Speaker 4: Is but there has been something that has been a
little off, and we've.
Speaker 6: Just thought, I got a footwork mechanical, Like he's just
off mechanically a little bit.
Speaker 5: He's been off his.
Speaker 6: His platform as so it makes sense though from what
I've noticed, that it would be kind of protecting a
little bit of an injury.
Speaker 4: So later on in the show, I'll pull up I
have the passing chart and kind of where he's thrown
every football, how far it's traveled, and you can kind
of see what we're talking about.
Speaker 6: And look, you've noticed, I mean, look are football fans,
I'll watched a lot of football, Like you realize that
the ball hasn't been pushed down the field a ton.
Speaker 4: Like the Louisiana Tech throw is like really the one
that I can think of in three games where it's like, hey,
let a rip, go out there and see how far
you can throw it. Yep, I don't remember seeing another one.
That's not to say you hadn't thrown like, you know,
a deep dig route. You've certainly done that. I believe
you hit a corner route early not the last game,
earlier in the season. But when you look at the
passing chart, you look at the passing map, there hasn't
been a ton of pushing the ball down the field,
and certainly like your deeper throws have actually been over
the middle and haven't been towards the sideline between you know,
the numbers and the sideline.
Speaker 6: He's going to be a farther throat and deeper throws
over the middle. Are you got to think about it?
It's kind of what I'm talking Everything is like perfect,
Like your feet are perfectly in line, your shoulders perfectly
in line.
Speaker 5: Now when you start throwing to the sideline.
Speaker 6: So I would think if you go back with a
torso injury, for a right handed quarterback, thrown to the left,
is going to stress your a torso injury out, Yeah,
because kind of the kind of what I'm talking about,
if your feet are at a weird angle as a
right a quarterback, you really have to torch your left
shoulder when you're rolling to your left to close down. Now,
if you're rolling to your right, everything's kind of perfect. Yeah,
So I would think that that would create a little
bit less stress less pain in a stone motion. But
running to his left, I would imagine he's got a
little less zip, little less juice, little less accuracy to that.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 4: So with all that being said, and again don't specifically
know what the injury is, just a torso injury, but really, honestly,
no matter what it is, that is going to be
something that affects you throwing the football certainly down the field. Well,
what does that mean for the next couple of weeks.
We'll take a look. Don't temp me with a good
time here, buddy, let's do it. Don't tempt me with
a good time. I mean, hey, hey, he closed out
last game. But let's take a look at the next
couple of weeks. Okay, because Brian Kelly, you heard him
there say we can't really shut it down until the
bye week. Well, you have an opportunity this week with
an FCS opponent coming to town. What does the game
plan for Garrett Nesmeyer look like. We'll break it all
down when we come back here on OTV.
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Speaker 4: Back in no TV. What's the theme today? There, Landa.
Speaker 8: I think this is two eighties songs back to back.
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hits different. And then this was on the suggestion and
so I just played this one. All right, you can
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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just trying to trying to see hone
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Speaker 4: So we mentioned the Gary Nessumier injury and Brian Kelly
said he's dealing with a little bit of a torso
when talked about what it possibly could be. But no
matter what it is, it certainly is something that is
going to affect the way you throw the football. And
Brian Kelly said, it's like that's not the only reason.
There's a couple of things that we need to do better.
U And they have Southeastern Louisiana coming up, the fighting
tats coming up this weekend inside of Tiger Stadium and Flint.
I'm w I throw this one to you before we
showed the passing map that we talked about in the
last segment. All right, now you are three and zero
is the number three team in the country. You start
SEC play back again next week against soul Miss on
the road. What do you do if you're the head
coach with Garrett Nessmeyer this week. Again, you're somebody that's
been in this situation. You had to miss Middle Tennessee
State our senior year because you weren't ready to go
and you needed some rest.
Speaker 6: If it's really a problem, which if you're trying to
read the tea leaves and go back and overanalyze the
first three weeks, you could make the argument that it
has affected the game plan. Potentially, This is all potential.
I have no idea. But if it has affected the
game plan to the point to which your offense is
running at half the capacity it was last year, which
is kind of the truth up to this point, then
I would send him there's no point in playing in
one quarter.
Speaker 5: What's that do?
Speaker 6: He's still got to practice and throw every single day, right,
what's that do? It doesn't do anything. So you either
rest them the entire week, or you go out there
and if you decide to play them, it's not like
you're going to play him for one quarter. You just
play them at that point until he comes out naturally
throughout the progression of the game. If you get up big,
which you should, but he can't beat Southeastern without Garret
Dustmyer then.
Speaker 4: What are we doing? Yeah, so and I do. Look,
I hate to talk about about any team. To your point,
it's just a different it's a different game, right, It's
there's some opponents that are from the G six love
you Southeast that you do have to hydrate it, you do,
so do you have to worry about But you're right,
like you have a backup quarterback that has multiple games
of sec starting experience. So if that is an option,
if it is something where the severity of what you're
talking about, then that's a decision you have to make.
Speaker 6: You We used to say, what did Stacy Searles used
to say it offensive.
Speaker 5: Oh lord, I'm nervously playing Mississippi State. During the week,
he was like, we're.
Speaker 4: Playing Mississippi State.
Speaker 6: You are playing All the guys at LSU didn't offer
scholarships too, So like this year your backup quarterback at LSUC.
Speaker 5: Your backup quarterback at LSU. Like I'm sorry, Like it's
just a different level of college.
Speaker 6: Obviously we all know this. We're not speaking for Southeastern
knows this. Like they didn't get a scholarship offer from
Southeastern because that Southeastern knew that they wouldn't go there, right,
so like the backup quarterback at LSU should be able to.
Speaker 5: Go in there and play ball.
Speaker 6: So if it has effected, which if you like, again
looking back at the game, looking at looking back at
the tape, looking back at the stats and the passing chart,
it's like you can make the argument that something has
been off and the game plan has been tailored around that.
We talk about all these passes behind the line of scrimmage,
all these screenplays, all everything that we're doing, the question
can be posed.
Speaker 5: We'll never get the answer. We won't know this. But Taylor,
do you have my computer pulled up?
Speaker 6: Go ahead and show that we got the passing chart
pulled up here, and we're gonna kind of show you
exactly what is happening with.
Speaker 4: And I mean, just so you know, although like in
this conversation it doesn't really matter too much. The green
dots are completed, the blue dots are touchdowns, the yellow
dots are incomplete and kind of the maroon ones or interceptions,
and the purple is pick sixes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you don't have anything you're gonna see here.
Speaker 6: It looks like, you know, there's just spots and freckles
everywhere on this on the screen. But if you start
looking closely at everything, the one that is crazy to
me is the behind the line of scrimmage. So behind
the line of scrimmage, there's twenty four so one hundred
and sixteen pass attempts to total, all right, so twenty
four of them are behind the line of scrimmage. Twenty
nine passes are within five yards of the line of scrimmage.
So that's a total of forty nearly forty six percent
of your passes or five or left, so nearly about
twenty percent of your passes. A little bit more than
twenty percent of your passes are going behind the line
of scrimmage. Which can you make that argument of in
this offense with dynamic receivers, with a quarterback who has
aired the ball out day in weekend, week out last year,
thrown for a billion yards in his first ever start
in a bowl game versus Wisconsin, Like, can we sit
there and say that they're not game planning around some
sort of some sort of injury where he can't create
the torque he want that he really wants like he can.
But if you're throwing through pain, especially down the field,
thrown it hard, you're going to be less accurate. It's
just impossible. You're going to make some accurate throws. It's
kind of like a quarterback with bad mechanics can make
good throws, but he's not going to do it at
a consistent level that you need to do to be
at to play at a high level for a consistent
amount of time. So, yeah, you can show clips, Well
look at this though, Well that's great. Well, yeah, it
doesn't mean like every throw is gonna be like that.
If he's wincing through it, if he has pain creating
that torque and throwing it down the field, he might
make one, two, three good throws, but he's gonna make
a throw that is not good. He might make two
throws that are not good, three throws that are not good. Like,
it's not gonna be as consistent as you want. So
I think based on that passing chart, like it doesn't
look too dissimilar.
Speaker 5: There's always going to be more passes short.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but he's this is a little six longest
throws so far are twenty six, twenty eight, actually twenty
six to three at twenty eight yards, a thirty two
yarder and then a thirty four yard airtime thirty four
yards is the longest so far down the.
Speaker 6: Field, and that thirty four yard or so thirty four
is not that far right, And that was the one
that was so intercepting, and that was the one that
was intercepted. He threw it about ten yards behind the guy.
So his furthest air throw this season was thirty four
yards and it was about five five, ten yards behind
the guy. So like there's an argument there to be
made that this has effected the game plan. Like there's
one throw that's about forty five yards right at the
top tip up.
Speaker 4: I don't even don't remember, to your point, even one
that I sat there and remember, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't even they're call yep.
Speaker 6: And beside the interception, there's only one other throw that's
passed thirty yards in the air. Yeah, but again, but
to our point, Pepper in the middle of the field.
Pepper in the middle of the field, in that intermediate range,
that ten to twenty twenty yard range. I see Aaron
Anderson dots all.
Speaker 4: Over this place, and I'm also I'm looking. So I
went back and I looked at last year's like complete
totality of the chart and the middle of the football
field kind of looks like a Christmas tree at forty
plus yards where you don't see a single die on
there this year.
Speaker 6: And you can't credit the defenses for all of that, right,
Like we talked about it with like when teams play
over the top, they play a big shell coverage, you
take what you can get. That we watched it. That's
not what this is. Like, there's a lot of it.
Of course, you're you're gonna have a lot of checkdowns.
A lot of great quarterbacks, a lot of Hall of
Fame quarterbacks made their career on hitting the checkdown. Yeah,
and checking it down and getting guys in space. So
that's gonna be there. That should be a part of
every good quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't even necessarily like we're not sitting here
talking about like you have to like every single but
it's just showing you they have not right and that
and you pair that with hearing that maybe there's a
torso injury, it's like, okay, well do they have the
ability to do so? Now, Look, coverage are gonna dictate
a lot of that too. Like last week, Florida's like, hey,
we're gonna play two high safeties and we're just we're
not gonna allow you to throw it over the top
one out of five, and we don't think you can
run it either, So we're gonna.
Speaker 6: Keep two twenty point six eight percent, So one out
of just omber one out of every time. At five
times Garrett moves his right arm and that ball comes
out of his hand, it's going behind one of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so certainly something to pay attention to. We'll see
what happens this week.
Speaker 5: We might have just overanalyzed something that's you.
Speaker 4: Might have no idea, but it's not an injury that
we knew before. And you're wondering, Okay, this does look
a little bit different the chart. Before even pulled it up,
I kind of had an idea of what it was
going to be. But even those numbers that you gave
are a little bit higher than I even thought. I mean,
that's that's a high percentage of the time. Then when
you go back and you look at what last year's
chart was as far as deep shots over the middle
of the field, Now, look your three games in that
could change. But you had multiple big plays, big shots
in the middle of the football field forty plus yards
in the air, and you have yet to have one
of those this year.
Speaker 6: That Yeah, looking at that chart, it was kind of
shocking to me how few dots were passed thirty year
yards crazy.
Speaker 4: All right, we will step away continue breaking down LSU.
Of course, we'll get into some Saints talk as well.
We got O guy Nick Underhill joining us a little
bit later on. He's gonna have to say something nice
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All right, So, one of the things of you know,
surrounding the passing game that I feel like it is
just like an easy take is the offensive line, which
is just not factual in the passing game, in the
run game. And I don't know if this was on
air or off air yesterday, Flynn, you were talking about
it and you're right, like it's robotic. Yep, it's this
is my guy. They're worried about assignment.
Speaker 6: You worried about their technique, Oh, coach told me, I
I gotta put presents on him for to to count.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even even when you don't have to have hand presence, Yeah.
Speaker 6: Even when the leverage of the defensive tackle doesn't doesn't
tell you.
Speaker 4: Yes, So that part of it. Yeah, we can sit there,
we can watch tape and I and I would agree
with you. Probably it's not even a talent thing. I
think it's just like trying to be perfect too much,
and sometimes in the run game, not even sometimes most
of the time, that can get you in trouble. But
to just throw a blanket on offensive line, here's your
starting grades for your offensive line in pass protection. And also,
like your eye should have told you, like there was
a real clean pocket. You gave up no sacks to Florida.
They had seven against you a year ago. You gave
up zero. Your starting center Braylan Moore eighty seven point nine.
This is on the season, by the way, this is
just one game. Paul Mubinga your left guard eighty three
point three, Josh Thompson your right guard eighty one point two,
Tyree Adams your left tackle eight point nine. Now West
and Davis your right tackle. And that's probably where you've
seen the most leakage from sixty two. So I can
we can have that conversation. But when you've got on
Pro Football Focus, which we love here, we talk about
the grades. Often when you have all other starting linemen
at least at seventy eight point nine or higher, it's
the take doesn't take. It's not a take. You watch
tape and there's clean pockets, Like they have faced off
against Clemson that's got two first round defensive linemen and
given up one sack, and then they play a Florida
team that sacked you seven times a year ago and
you give up no sacks. The pass protection doesn't go
into the equation of why you haven't been as successful
throwing the football. It just doesn't. You can use it
as a narrative, but it's just not factual. Now in
the run game, again, you're right there, and again it's
not a talent thing. Right now, It's not like they're
just getting run through. They're just trying to be so
perfect in hand placement. Here it's like, well, actually your
guy had him already and you're wasting time getting to
the second level. We can have that conversation, but as
far as the passing portion of this, I'm not gonna
sit here and say that the pockets haven't been good,
because they have been.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you have that many passes like we
just kind of broke down that passing chart that are
either behind the line of scrimmage or within five yards,
those are quick hitting things, and that is like, if
you're gonna protect an offensive line, yeah, you do it
with an element of quick passes, you do with the
element of screens, but at some point in games you
have to push the ball. You have to push it, yeah,
or you're just gonna get teed off on on screen
passes you're teed off on, you're gonna press coverage, you're
gonna have safeties jumping down.
Speaker 5: And there's other ways to help.
Speaker 6: You help with chips, you help with nudges, you help
with thumps, you help with different ways that tied ends
and run can help the tackles block a defensive end.
And just like you said, right tackle, we probably seen
more chips, more thumps from on that side of the ball,
just helping the right tackle out a little bit more.
But a bad offensive line is not what we have,
Like we don't have a bad pass protecting off Like
I don't know, it's not last year's offensive line by
any means to this point in the season. But and
they're getting better at working with each other. But you still,
like you push the ball down the field. Still there's
ways to protect it and push it. Like we saw
well Jaden's first year It was kind of the opposite,
the wrong way of doing it when you're just protecting
with seven eight guys and trying to throw a deep.
But the element, the threat of throwing it short, throwing
screens protects your offensive line as well. So I don't know,
it's not throwing it short is not a product of
an offensive line. Right now, we just hadn't seen bad protection.
Speaker 4: All right, more coming back your way. I remember two
OTV off the bench,