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Speaker 1: Let's start to Yoda Presents Off the Bench with Jacob

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Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Let's go from a championship backfield to your morning drive.

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Speaker 2: Ham'sday. Hester and Hester got it?

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Speaker 3: Fat a ba.

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Speaker 1: You're locked in to Off the Bench control the Live

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from downtown Baton Rouge.

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Speaker 2: Here's Jacob Hess and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 4: Yo, welcome in o TV here on this Tuesday morning.

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Jake Flynn, a landre a Tate all here with you

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after a long Monday football evening. Uh we are back

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here with a couple of doves though.

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Speaker 5: Yeah we are Foxhole big Ball.

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Speaker 4: How did it feel first time out? Written for your

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new squad?

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Speaker 5: What a game?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 4: What a game?

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Speaker 7: They made it a game? Try to give that thing away?

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Really really fun fun fourth quarter?

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Speaker 6: So your first week as a fan of the Bugs, Like,

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how was your fandom? Are you still getting used to it?

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Did you cheer for the wrong team a couple of times?

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Speaker 3: Like I did?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's fine.

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Speaker 5: I mean again, it's fine, kind of weird.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't new, I guess I should say, like I've

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always kind of chewed for them in the background, you know.

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The last couple of years, so it wasn't anything.

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Speaker 5: Like side piece.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they were. They were the side piece. Now it's official.

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Speaker 4: It's he's pretty simple.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's a good who's a fun game.

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Speaker 6: I enjoyed watching that game because Baker is an animal

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playing so well, but he's just so funny to watch.

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He's got this attitude, got a chip on his shoulder.

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He scrambles late in the game and gets hurt, falls

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on his knee and it looks like he's hurting his knee,

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but then like I don't think, like, I don't think

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he had time in his brain to even be hurt

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because he realized he had to get up and start

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talking trash, right, He's like, wait a minute, I gotta

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talk trash. So he got up to he's like Chauncey Gardoner, Johnson,

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Johncy like standing over him. I can just like hear

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Chauncey just saying, like, you know, calling him names like

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get up off the ground.

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Speaker 3: Because I think he originally hurt the knee on the

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sack in the first half.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that one looks like that was a little

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bit more like yeah, okay, I can see your getting

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hurt there. But yeah, he's like, wait a minute, I

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can't be hurt. I don't have time for this. I

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gotta talk trash. He got up and he did. He

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did just that.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So they when twenty to nineteen over the

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Texans how to huck take it? Did you watch the game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: He did. He wasn't like thrilled, but he also no,

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he was actually upset.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to think about because he watched I

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let him watch a little bit of the second game too,

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school night. Who uh my oldest watch all of it? Oopsies.

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Speaker 5: So he was, uh yeah, he was pretty upset.

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Speaker 4: He was cheering pretty hard. What I thought they were

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going to like explode a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Actually I went to the playoff game where they beat

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the hell out of the Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Like, I don't know, there's something. There's something a little

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off about the old Texans, I know, being I mean.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about it before the game, Like I'm not

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saying they're bad, but like when that game ended, I

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was like, why are the Texans not better? Like I

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looked at their past rush like you got Anderson and

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Danil Hunter, you have Stingley, Jalen Petree. The defense is great,

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if Stroud you have all these weapons, why aren't they better?

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ten games back to back years. Yeah, but there's something

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missing and I don't really know what it is.

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Speaker 6: They're kind of like, I don't want to say this,

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but they're kind of like the Chargers have been right,

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the extremely talent. Hey, great, there a lot of positive

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energy coming at you today, so relax. I'm just saying

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they have a really good defense.

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Speaker 4: Hackers get one elite pass rusher.

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Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, like they the Texas have a really good defense.

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They got Scott C. J. Stroud, who everybody is high on,

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who's a really good player. But there's just something about

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them right now.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: They got to find their stride. But they're young, they're talented.

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Nico Collins is a great player. I agree with you, though, Taylor, like,

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Speaker 4: And I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that, no idea. But

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Speaker 4: Competitor and and who is a good team? You're Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you. I don't think I've ever heard you

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say that they are good. They are pretty good. Look

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I don't know. I hadn't watched every game. I'm about

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ready to crown Derwin James Junior is the best safety

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in the league. There's only been two games. You're saying

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are like the total the NFL. I'm saying, I think

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he's he's got to be the best safety in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: R Yeah, he's playing pretty well.

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Speaker 6: Let me think of I mean, that guy was all

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over the place, from rushing the passer to knocking big

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plays like not the ball down in big plays down

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a distance.

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Speaker 5: The guy was all over the place. He's fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is. And not on wood because you have

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been with me long enough. Uh. I think the Chargers

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are really good, like you're hesitant to say it, Like

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I think they're really good. Herbert looks different. He looks

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fully healthy for the first time in a long time.

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Receivers look great. Ladarius out there still making plays. Keenan

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Allen bag gives you another safety blanket. They're not very

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dynamic and tied end that that worries you a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Who's your other.

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Speaker 4: Receiver blanking on his name? Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson turns

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out he can catch, turns.

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Speaker 6: Out in a row I'm sitting on a pretty good

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Quentin Johnson card too.

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Speaker 4: There you go. That's how we view the NFL.

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Speaker 5: That's all you like, if people are good or not. Like,

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Speaker 6: Stroud's good because this card market is pretty up there,

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so I'm like, yeah, he's got to be good, right,

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it's fair card.

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Speaker 4: People know it is fair. And I know we're bouncing

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back and forth between the two games. Chargers did beat

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the Raiders twenty No, it's good. Uh, But to make

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it relevant to what we talk about every single day,

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Bucks and Falcons look pretty good.

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Speaker 5: Yeah they do.

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Speaker 4: Now the Panthers look like some hot garbage. Sorry, Memphis,

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if you're already in the car listening.

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Speaker 5: They're bad, bad, bad.

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Speaker 4: So you're not the worst. But I think the South

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looks better than people were giving it credit for coming

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into the season. And i'd include the Saints in that growth,

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in that development. But the Bucks look good. The Falcons

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look good against the Vikings kind of winning an ugly

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game where you don't score a lot of points and

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your defense comes up and you've been so bad getting

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after the quarterback and then all of a sudden you

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use two first round picks and hey, guess what you

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spend draft capital and edge rushers, you might be better

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getting after the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns out if you pay really good players,

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your team gets better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Just funny how that works.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that.

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Speaker 4: Well, don't understand that the Cowboys pay people, just not

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Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they got your Davian Clowney guys, it's fun.

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Speaker 4: They paid a guard ninety million tight.

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Speaker 7: End they did, know to your point, to the Trocah,

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like the Panthers in the Saints at least first two weeks,

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like they're not getting blown out. Like the win loss

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record at the end of the year may not look great,

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but they're tough howls.

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Speaker 5: And the Panthers yeah, Caroline, Yeah, I mean what they.

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Speaker 7: Lost by four or five on Sunday, Like they're a

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tough out. And then when you look at the Bucks,

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like a lot of people like you know, my buddy

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Mount was texting me last night saying, hey, why the

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Bucks offense stole out after the first two drops.

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Speaker 3: They were down three offensive linemen after the.

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Speaker 7: First Like after the second possession, Luke Geticky went down,

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who probably shouldn't have played anyways, like that game's probably

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different if he doesn't go down. And then the Falcons,

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I mean, they're getting better and better. It's a pretty

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good division.

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Speaker 6: I mean see, yeah, I mean every you should be

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a tough out if you're an NFL football team, right,

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you should be. And but I agree, the NSS South

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was like NFC South was not very well thought of

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except for the Buccaneers. But yeah, I think remember, yeah,

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the ESPN roster ranking it had like the Bucks at

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like eleven and then the Falcons were.

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Speaker 4: Like twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: The Panthers were what twenty nine to thirty, and the

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Saints for thirty two.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It's much better than that.

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Speaker 6: It is much better because the NFC South has two

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real teams, two real teams this year.

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Speaker 5: The Falcons are going to be real. We've said it here.

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Speaker 6: Michael Pennocks junior is going to be a problem in

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that division. He's going to be one of these guys

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that I believe is going to get better and better

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and better, and they're going to be able to build

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that team on a rookie quarterback contract for a couple

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of years, which is a huge deal.

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Speaker 5: But you know, now you got the resurgence of our

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gut Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 4: Although you are paying Kirk Cousins, so actually kind of

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like cancel each other out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to psycho out enough to know what

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those like Kirk Cousins dead cap spaces or whatever it

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is on the team. I guess yet a uniform and everything.

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Speaker 5: How would you feel about that if you was on

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the team.

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Speaker 4: How did you feel for your Kirk Cousins going back

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to a place where you were kind of a star

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and you're a backup? Yeah, like you did going to Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, are like this publicly kind of tarnishing that organization

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on the Netflix documentary? Yeah, I don't know. Kind of weird.

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I bet there's a.

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Speaker 5: Player only meaning about it. Oh did you hear it?

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Speaker 6: Well, we forgot to talk about it last I think

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last week the Dolphins had a player only meeting. After

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week went week one week one player only meaning, good

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for them, he's got to take control. You gotta take

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control of the narative.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how much of the message changed from the

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last day of the preseason to the first day of

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the second week of the season. How different is that message?

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Speaker 6: Hey you guys, well we suck, so let's get the

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coaches out of here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Who do you think talks in that? Meaning? Mmm?

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Speaker 6: For the Dolphins, Tyree kill for better or worse? Probably probably,

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I mean Jayalen wattles quiet to his quiet who it

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probably talks, but it's probably boring, right, It probably doesn't

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make sense because of all the brain bruises. Yeah, I

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get it, you're probably right right? Not player only A

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meeting after week one didn't didn't help. Yeah, they lost

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in heartbreaking fashion.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear Mike McDaniel's post games on Sunday?

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Speaker 5: I saw a clip.

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Speaker 7: I don't remember what he basically said, like, well, I

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mean in football, you either win the game or lose

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the game, and we lost the game.

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Speaker 5: Facts, I mean that's a true fact.

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Speaker 3: I mean I can't I can't fact check.

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Speaker 5: You think you would have a better answer.

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Speaker 8: That's where you made a mistake thinking he would have

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a better answer.

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Speaker 5: Good point. That little like him, But I don't at

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all why.

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 7: He always had this little shtick of like I'm too

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cool to care type of thing.

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Speaker 3: He was also nerdy at the same.

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Speaker 6: Time, be a little bit more like Bear Bryant, smart Bear.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know how long old MIC's gonna be

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losing games like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he'll be the He'll be the OC for

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the Lions next year, for sure.

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Speaker 4: It makes sense, makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 6: Actually, since we're jumping around like from to every NFL

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team in this first segment of them, I might as

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well bring up the Panthers again and talk about Taylor.

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Brought this to my attention yesterday. Thank you for that

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fact check. One of my big bold predictions for the

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season was Panthers receiver Exavier Lagett was gonna get one

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thousand plus receiving yards this year.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a little update.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna he's gonna pop off this year because because uh,

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you know, Bryce young he was he finished the season

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strong last year. Their offense with dynamic, they get rid

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of feeling who was because they have.

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Speaker 5: All this this young talent.

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Speaker 6: They got a first round receiver that's gonna take take

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some of the pressure off Exaberly. He's gonna really pop

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this year. And you know, we got a lot of

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time left. There's a lot of season left, sixteen games.

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But the first week not great. What do we have

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ten yards receiving? Taylor how many receiving yards.

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Speaker 5: Does he have? Week two he had negative two. Okay,

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so now so I.

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Speaker 6: Went into the week two he needed nine to ninety

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for me to put that turnover chain on. This week

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we're going into week three, we need nine to ninety two.

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Speaker 5: Got it?

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Speaker 4: Hey, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 5: Feeling? Not bad? Not bad.

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Speaker 6: It's a long season. Seventeen games, I mean there's fifteen

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games left. Yeah, yeah, I mean plenty of people have

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got a thousand yards in fifteen games. Plenty of people

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will say he set a record, like you know, Jerry.

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Speaker 4: Rice probably yeah, probably like Tim Brown.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he set a record most targets in a

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game with negative receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: Eight eight targets was good for negative two yards.

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Speaker 5: That is what that is.

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Speaker 6: Remarkable. That's remarkable, pretty good. That really brought down Bryce

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Bryce's yards per attempt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I wonder what that is for the season. You

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know what can't be good?

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Speaker 4: All Saints fans everywhere should feel thankful for the Carolina Panthers.

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They're not the worst. They're not.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll see, I don't think they are. We're gonna

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find out. What was the score against Arizona for the

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Saints twenty thirteen. Yeah, so they lost by seven. Ye,

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the Panthers lost to the to the Cardinals by five.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're not doing that this morning. We're not

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starting it off like that. We'll take a break. Unfortunately,

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we we do have like an injury to LSU's quarterback

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that we didn't really know about. That I gotta ask

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you about because I don't know what it's like throwing

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the football with an injury, and you probably do. So

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we're gonna ask you about that when we come back.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTV here on this Tuesday morning.

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We talked so much about the knee injury that really

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wasn't a big deal in training camp for garretts Meyer.

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Speaker 5: You know you talking about what his fell off.

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Speaker 4: It went leg fell off and everybody came again and

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he had like a minor Great they did, great, you

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had a minor sprain there. We've seen you know, a

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Nie sleeve here and there still like sometimes a practice

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whatever from some of the photos that we've seen them

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put out, so we like we've known that that's been

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a part of the first couple of games for Garrettsmeyer.

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But it turns out Brian Kelly said yesterday that he's

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been nursing a torso injury, and uh, hey, t do

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we have that? Sound all right, let's go ahead and play.

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Here is Brian Kelly talking about nus Meyer and this

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injury that we didn't really know he had.

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Speaker 10: I'll be honest, and I wasn't going to get into this,

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but with you guys, I will.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's been slowed a.

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Speaker 10: Little bit with a torso injury, and he's fighting through it,

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and he's getting better, and he's not going to be

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able to really shut it down until we get to

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the bye week. And I'm not saying that that has

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had any of his troubles. I think he is a

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symptom of what I just answered from Wilson in that

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you know, we're not ripping it, you know on fourth down,

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you know, we're taking some plays away from him as well,

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and he's done a really good job. I think he

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managed the run game as well.

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Speaker 5: As he has all year.

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Speaker 10: We got to let him get the ball out to

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the playmakers. That would be more of what has to happen,

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and then we've got to keep him healthy.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll throw it to our quarterback because well,

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I've never thrown a football with a torso injury, and

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I've never thrown a football in a game, and that

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feels like a body part that it is not ideal

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to be able to let it rip if you have

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any kind of torso abdomen. I don't know. Yeah, well,

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on where it's at.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of depends on what I mean, I

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guess it doesn't. It doesn't depend on where it is.

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But like a torso injury is a torso injury, it's

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got to be some sort of ab muscle pull pull

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or some sort of most muscle pul I don't know

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what other injury it could be, which is highly effect.

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Speaker 5: That would be a little.

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Speaker 6: Bit more serious, though I think that. I mean, that's

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I mean, I'm assuming there's probably grades but the surgery

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when it's like a sports herney situation, but it's got

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to be some sort of muscle pull or aggravation or something.

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Speaker 5: But I can tell you the way, if you have

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a powerful.

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Speaker 6: Onm like all throwers, all swingers are all kickers, your

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power comes from your rotation, right, It's not then come

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from big strong arm. It comes from how you your

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timing of the rotation of your hips and your and

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your lower body and then can you time up your

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arm and sync it up with that. But you know,

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the harder you throw it, the more torque is produced

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with your hips and the rotation, so you spin harder

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and what I mean spind You spin your hips harder

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the harder you hit it. That's why I like a

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golfer that is, you know, five to six about twenty five,

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can hit it farther than the strongest guy in the

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world because they create they create speed. So the faster

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you spend, the faster you can move your arm. The

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faster the better leverage, and the faster the ball speed. Yeah,

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so of course that's going to make a big difference.

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And Garrett is so talented with his arm. We've seen

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it for two years now and real action started last

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year than the year before that, and some backup duties,

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and we saw it in the Bowl game versus Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: Like we know he can make all the throws.

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Speaker 6: So when I look back on games, when I look

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back at Louisian attack early on and he throws a

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deep ball that's ten yards behind the receiver, you start

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putting the pieces together. Now that Brian Kelly says this,

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you start looking at the evidence on the field, and

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it makes sense, right, it makes sense that he hasn't

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been able to make all the throws, especially when your

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foot when your feet get when.

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Speaker 5: Everything's not perfect.

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Speaker 6: So when everything's not perfect, like if your feet are

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right under you, like you're warming up, the pocket's cleaned,

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everything is perfect, it's easy to you know, keep your

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shoulder closed. It's easy to kind of protect that. What's

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what's painful. But when your feet get out of whack,

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when you're having to move in the pocket, move around,

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and your feet, like, you still have to create torque

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in different ways.

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Speaker 5: You still have to create torque.

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Speaker 6: But let's just say if you know how you normally throw,

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like you stand up and you know your your your

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feet are parallel, your shoulders point at your target foot,

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you step perfectly. But let's just say your feet are

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spread out, yeah, and they're not they're they're both of

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your feet are Pope pointing at the target. So then

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you've got to really close your left shoulder down. Now

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you've got to create a lot of torque. And so

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when that happens, I can and see how torso injury

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would be very effective. And I think we saw that

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in the D ball and we've seen that he's just

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he hadn't you know, he's looking good at times, but

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he's making some throws they're a little bit uncharacteristic to

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what we've seen and like if he was a brand

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new starter, you wouldn't be able to have those tails.

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But we've seen him make every single throw consistently on

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the football field, So you know, if he's not wincing

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though he's not like, it can't be so bad that

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a little lot of profin's not helping it. But I

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think it's.

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Speaker 4: When the strongest thing, uh.

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Speaker 5: Real high powered. But I don't know, I mean, it's

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just my curiosity.

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Speaker 4: Is but there has been something that has been a

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little off, and we've.

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Speaker 6: Just thought, I got a footwork mechanical, Like he's just

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off mechanically a little bit.

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Speaker 5: He's been off his.

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Speaker 6: His platform as so it makes sense though from what

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I've noticed, that it would be kind of protecting a

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little bit of an injury.

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Speaker 4: So later on in the show, I'll pull up I

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have the passing chart and kind of where he's thrown

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every football, how far it's traveled, and you can kind

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of see what we're talking about.

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Speaker 6: And look, you've noticed, I mean, look are football fans,

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I'll watched a lot of football, Like you realize that

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the ball hasn't been pushed down the field a ton.

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Speaker 4: Like the Louisiana Tech throw is like really the one

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that I can think of in three games where it's like, hey,

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let a rip, go out there and see how far

475
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,319
you can throw it. Yep, I don't remember seeing another one.

476
00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:48,599
That's not to say you hadn't thrown like, you know,

477
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,200
a deep dig route. You've certainly done that. I believe

478
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,519
you hit a corner route early not the last game,

479
00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:57,880
earlier in the season. But when you look at the

480
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,920
passing chart, you look at the passing map, there hasn't

481
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,079
been a ton of pushing the ball down the field,

482
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,319
and certainly like your deeper throws have actually been over

483
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,759
the middle and haven't been towards the sideline between you know,

484
00:24:11,839 --> 00:24:13,079
the numbers and the sideline.

485
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 6: He's going to be a farther throat and deeper throws

486
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,319
over the middle. Are you got to think about it?

487
00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,640
It's kind of what I'm talking Everything is like perfect,

488
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:21,920
Like your feet are perfectly in line, your shoulders perfectly

489
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,319
in line.

490
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 5: Now when you start throwing to the sideline.

491
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 6: So I would think if you go back with a

492
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,680
torso injury, for a right handed quarterback, thrown to the left,

493
00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:31,319
is going to stress your a torso injury out, Yeah,

494
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,240
because kind of the kind of what I'm talking about,

495
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:36,599
if your feet are at a weird angle as a

496
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,759
right a quarterback, you really have to torch your left

497
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:41,960
shoulder when you're rolling to your left to close down. Now,

498
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,720
if you're rolling to your right, everything's kind of perfect. Yeah,

499
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:46,359
So I would think that that would create a little

500
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,680
bit less stress less pain in a stone motion. But

501
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,079
running to his left, I would imagine he's got a

502
00:24:53,079 --> 00:24:55,960
little less zip, little less juice, little less accuracy to that.

503
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 5: All right.

504
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,559
Speaker 4: So with all that being said, and again don't specifically

505
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,599
know what the injury is, just a torso injury, but really, honestly,

506
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,440
no matter what it is, that is going to be

507
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,319
something that affects you throwing the football certainly down the field. Well,

508
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,440
what does that mean for the next couple of weeks.

509
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:20,240
We'll take a look. Don't temp me with a good

510
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,640
time here, buddy, let's do it. Don't tempt me with

511
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,559
a good time. I mean, hey, hey, he closed out

512
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:27,799
last game. But let's take a look at the next

513
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,920
couple of weeks. Okay, because Brian Kelly, you heard him

514
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,640
there say we can't really shut it down until the

515
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,599
bye week. Well, you have an opportunity this week with

516
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,319
an FCS opponent coming to town. What does the game

517
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,200
plan for Garrett Nesmeyer look like. We'll break it all

518
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,720
down when we come back here on OTV.

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Speaker 1: Tigers Turn Talkers. This is off the bench, all right, welcome.

546
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Speaker 4: Back in no TV. What's the theme today? There, Landa.

547
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Speaker 8: I think this is two eighties songs back to back.

548
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But I'm like, I played Policy of Truth because I

549
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was listening to it this morning and that song just

550
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hits different. And then this was on the suggestion and

551
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so I just played this one. All right, you can

552
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change it up though.

553
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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm just trying to trying to see hone

554
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in on what it is. Yeah, it's a vibe.

555
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Speaker 8: I think depeche Mode is a vibe.

556
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Speaker 4: I'll go, mister, but yeah, for sure, for sure, but yeah,

557
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for sure, it's such a vibe. All right, let's go

558
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be proactive, be hydrated, not just for the weekend, but

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569
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maybe you stayed up late watching your favorite NFL team

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and you gotta wake up and do a morning show

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578
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I had my windshield wipers on like it was raining.

579
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Speaker 4: It was so humid.

580
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Speaker 5: Kept fogging up. John have that problem too, uh a

581
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little bit?

582
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Speaker 6: So go get hydrated, get vitamines right there, right there

583
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584
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Speaker 5: I be all right.

585
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,279
Speaker 4: So we mentioned the Gary Nessumier injury and Brian Kelly

586
00:29:19,319 --> 00:29:21,359
said he's dealing with a little bit of a torso

587
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:24,039
when talked about what it possibly could be. But no

588
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,240
matter what it is, it certainly is something that is

589
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,440
going to affect the way you throw the football. And

590
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:31,720
Brian Kelly said, it's like that's not the only reason.

591
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,640
There's a couple of things that we need to do better.

592
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,440
U And they have Southeastern Louisiana coming up, the fighting

593
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,359
tats coming up this weekend inside of Tiger Stadium and Flint.

594
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:44,160
I'm w I throw this one to you before we

595
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,160
showed the passing map that we talked about in the

596
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,880
last segment. All right, now you are three and zero

597
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,759
is the number three team in the country. You start

598
00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,720
SEC play back again next week against soul Miss on

599
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:05,440
the road. What do you do if you're the head

600
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:11,400
coach with Garrett Nessmeyer this week. Again, you're somebody that's

601
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,720
been in this situation. You had to miss Middle Tennessee

602
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,559
State our senior year because you weren't ready to go

603
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,039
and you needed some rest.

604
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 6: If it's really a problem, which if you're trying to

605
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,319
read the tea leaves and go back and overanalyze the

606
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:31,480
first three weeks, you could make the argument that it

607
00:30:31,519 --> 00:30:34,640
has affected the game plan. Potentially, This is all potential.

608
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,640
I have no idea. But if it has affected the

609
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,400
game plan to the point to which your offense is

610
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,559
running at half the capacity it was last year, which

611
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:50,559
is kind of the truth up to this point, then

612
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:52,759
I would send him there's no point in playing in

613
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:53,319
one quarter.

614
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 5: What's that do?

615
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,279
Speaker 6: He's still got to practice and throw every single day, right,

616
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,599
what's that do? It doesn't do anything. So you either

617
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,960
rest them the entire week, or you go out there

618
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,839
and if you decide to play them, it's not like

619
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,640
you're going to play him for one quarter. You just

620
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:08,839
play them at that point until he comes out naturally

621
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,400
throughout the progression of the game. If you get up big,

622
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,880
which you should, but he can't beat Southeastern without Garret

623
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,079
Dustmyer then.

624
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: What are we doing? Yeah, so and I do. Look,

625
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,920
I hate to talk about about any team. To your point,

626
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240
it's just a different it's a different game, right, It's

627
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,000
there's some opponents that are from the G six love

628
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:35,799
you Southeast that you do have to hydrate it, you do,

629
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,000
so do you have to worry about But you're right,

630
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,519
like you have a backup quarterback that has multiple games

631
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,319
of sec starting experience. So if that is an option,

632
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,559
if it is something where the severity of what you're

633
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,920
talking about, then that's a decision you have to make.

634
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:55,839
Speaker 6: You We used to say, what did Stacy Searles used

635
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:56,640
to say it offensive.

636
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,279
Speaker 5: Oh lord, I'm nervously playing Mississippi State. During the week,

637
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:03,759
he was like, we're.

638
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: Playing Mississippi State.

639
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,279
Speaker 6: You are playing All the guys at LSU didn't offer

640
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:13,079
scholarships too, So like this year your backup quarterback at LSUC.

641
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,119
Speaker 5: Your backup quarterback at LSU. Like I'm sorry, Like it's

642
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,720
just a different level of college.

643
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,599
Speaker 6: Obviously we all know this. We're not speaking for Southeastern

644
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,400
knows this. Like they didn't get a scholarship offer from

645
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,519
Southeastern because that Southeastern knew that they wouldn't go there, right,

646
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,519
so like the backup quarterback at LSU should be able to.

647
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: Go in there and play ball.

648
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,519
Speaker 6: So if it has effected, which if you like, again

649
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:38,119
looking back at the game, looking at looking back at

650
00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:40,720
the tape, looking back at the stats and the passing chart,

651
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,160
it's like you can make the argument that something has

652
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,359
been off and the game plan has been tailored around that.

653
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,680
We talk about all these passes behind the line of scrimmage,

654
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,240
all these screenplays, all everything that we're doing, the question

655
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,640
can be posed.

656
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 5: We'll never get the answer. We won't know this. But Taylor,

657
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,640
do you have my computer pulled up?

658
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: Go ahead and show that we got the passing chart

659
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:06,599
pulled up here, and we're gonna kind of show you

660
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160
exactly what is happening with.

661
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:11,839
Speaker 4: And I mean, just so you know, although like in

662
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,160
this conversation it doesn't really matter too much. The green

663
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,960
dots are completed, the blue dots are touchdowns, the yellow

664
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,079
dots are incomplete and kind of the maroon ones or interceptions,

665
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:27,000
and the purple is pick sixes.

666
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you don't have anything you're gonna see here.

667
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 6: It looks like, you know, there's just spots and freckles

668
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,079
everywhere on this on the screen. But if you start

669
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:39,240
looking closely at everything, the one that is crazy to

670
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:41,000
me is the behind the line of scrimmage. So behind

671
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,119
the line of scrimmage, there's twenty four so one hundred

672
00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:47,079
and sixteen pass attempts to total, all right, so twenty

673
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:50,240
four of them are behind the line of scrimmage. Twenty

674
00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:54,240
nine passes are within five yards of the line of scrimmage.

675
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:57,640
So that's a total of forty nearly forty six percent

676
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,000
of your passes or five or left, so nearly about

677
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,240
twenty percent of your passes. A little bit more than

678
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,680
twenty percent of your passes are going behind the line

679
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,719
of scrimmage. Which can you make that argument of in

680
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,280
this offense with dynamic receivers, with a quarterback who has

681
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,079
aired the ball out day in weekend, week out last year,

682
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,679
thrown for a billion yards in his first ever start

683
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:27,119
in a bowl game versus Wisconsin, Like, can we sit

684
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,000
there and say that they're not game planning around some

685
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:33,559
sort of some sort of injury where he can't create

686
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,719
the torque he want that he really wants like he can.

687
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,199
But if you're throwing through pain, especially down the field,

688
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,119
thrown it hard, you're going to be less accurate. It's

689
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:46,800
just impossible. You're going to make some accurate throws. It's

690
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,039
kind of like a quarterback with bad mechanics can make

691
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:50,840
good throws, but he's not going to do it at

692
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,639
a consistent level that you need to do to be

693
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,920
at to play at a high level for a consistent

694
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,320
amount of time. So, yeah, you can show clips, Well

695
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,360
look at this though, Well that's great. Well, yeah, it

696
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,559
doesn't mean like every throw is gonna be like that.

697
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,960
If he's wincing through it, if he has pain creating

698
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,480
that torque and throwing it down the field, he might

699
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:11,880
make one, two, three good throws, but he's gonna make

700
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,599
a throw that is not good. He might make two

701
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:16,480
throws that are not good, three throws that are not good. Like,

702
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:19,320
it's not gonna be as consistent as you want. So

703
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,679
I think based on that passing chart, like it doesn't

704
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,599
look too dissimilar.

705
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,679
Speaker 5: There's always going to be more passes short.

706
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but he's this is a little six longest

707
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:35,039
throws so far are twenty six, twenty eight, actually twenty

708
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,719
six to three at twenty eight yards, a thirty two

709
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,360
yarder and then a thirty four yard airtime thirty four

710
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,320
yards is the longest so far down the.

711
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,639
Speaker 6: Field, and that thirty four yard or so thirty four

712
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,760
is not that far right, And that was the one

713
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,199
that was so intercepting, and that was the one that

714
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,360
was intercepted. He threw it about ten yards behind the guy.

715
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,360
So his furthest air throw this season was thirty four

716
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,880
yards and it was about five five, ten yards behind

717
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,800
the guy. So like there's an argument there to be

718
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,559
made that this has effected the game plan. Like there's

719
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,800
one throw that's about forty five yards right at the

720
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,519
top tip up.

721
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,159
Speaker 4: I don't even don't remember, to your point, even one

722
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:17,400
that I sat there and remember, I don't.

723
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,519
Speaker 5: I don't even they're call yep.

724
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 6: And beside the interception, there's only one other throw that's

725
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,280
passed thirty yards in the air. Yeah, but again, but

726
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,079
to our point, Pepper in the middle of the field.

727
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,280
Pepper in the middle of the field, in that intermediate range,

728
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,360
that ten to twenty twenty yard range. I see Aaron

729
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Anderson dots all.

730
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:42,519
Speaker 4: Over this place, and I'm also I'm looking. So I

731
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:46,360
went back and I looked at last year's like complete

732
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,840
totality of the chart and the middle of the football

733
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,239
field kind of looks like a Christmas tree at forty

734
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,199
plus yards where you don't see a single die on

735
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,000
there this year.

736
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 6: And you can't credit the defenses for all of that, right,

737
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,880
Like we talked about it with like when teams play

738
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,039
over the top, they play a big shell coverage, you

739
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:14,239
take what you can get. That we watched it. That's

740
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,880
not what this is. Like, there's a lot of it.

741
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Of course, you're you're gonna have a lot of checkdowns.

742
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,000
A lot of great quarterbacks, a lot of Hall of

743
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:23,920
Fame quarterbacks made their career on hitting the checkdown. Yeah,

744
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
and checking it down and getting guys in space. So

745
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,119
that's gonna be there. That should be a part of

746
00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:28,960
every good quarterback.

747
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't even necessarily like we're not sitting here

748
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,239
talking about like you have to like every single but

749
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,199
it's just showing you they have not right and that

750
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:41,079
and you pair that with hearing that maybe there's a

751
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:43,159
torso injury, it's like, okay, well do they have the

752
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,840
ability to do so? Now, Look, coverage are gonna dictate

753
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,000
a lot of that too. Like last week, Florida's like, hey,

754
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,079
we're gonna play two high safeties and we're just we're

755
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:52,960
not gonna allow you to throw it over the top

756
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,519
one out of five, and we don't think you can

757
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:56,960
run it either, So we're gonna.

758
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 6: Keep two twenty point six eight percent, So one out

759
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,880
of just omber one out of every time. At five

760
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,519
times Garrett moves his right arm and that ball comes

761
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,360
out of his hand, it's going behind one of scrimmage.

762
00:38:08,559 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so certainly something to pay attention to. We'll see

763
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,400
what happens this week.

764
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 5: We might have just overanalyzed something that's you.

765
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 4: Might have no idea, but it's not an injury that

766
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,800
we knew before. And you're wondering, Okay, this does look

767
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,320
a little bit different the chart. Before even pulled it up,

768
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,559
I kind of had an idea of what it was

769
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:30,599
going to be. But even those numbers that you gave

770
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,199
are a little bit higher than I even thought. I mean,

771
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,280
that's that's a high percentage of the time. Then when

772
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,239
you go back and you look at what last year's

773
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,679
chart was as far as deep shots over the middle

774
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,480
of the field, Now, look your three games in that

775
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:47,000
could change. But you had multiple big plays, big shots

776
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,159
in the middle of the football field forty plus yards

777
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,119
in the air, and you have yet to have one

778
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:51,840
of those this year.

779
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 6: That Yeah, looking at that chart, it was kind of

780
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,480
shocking to me how few dots were passed thirty year

781
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,440
yards crazy.

782
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 4: All right, we will step away continue breaking down LSU.

783
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,360
Of course, we'll get into some Saints talk as well.

784
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,159
We got O guy Nick Underhill joining us a little

785
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,320
bit later on. He's gonna have to say something nice

786
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,159
about Spencer Rattler, all of that tough form when we

787
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come back here on OTV.

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00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,559
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All right, So, one of the things of you know,

830
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surrounding the passing game that I feel like it is

831
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:44,360
just like an easy take is the offensive line, which

832
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,400
is just not factual in the passing game, in the

833
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,079
run game. And I don't know if this was on

834
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,159
air or off air yesterday, Flynn, you were talking about

835
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,760
it and you're right, like it's robotic. Yep, it's this

836
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,639
is my guy. They're worried about assignment.

837
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 6: You worried about their technique, Oh, coach told me, I

838
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,079
I gotta put presents on him for to to count.

839
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, even even when you don't have to have hand presence, Yeah.

840
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 6: Even when the leverage of the defensive tackle doesn't doesn't

841
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:09,960
tell you.

842
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 4: Yes, So that part of it. Yeah, we can sit there,

843
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,880
we can watch tape and I and I would agree

844
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,679
with you. Probably it's not even a talent thing. I

845
00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:20,840
think it's just like trying to be perfect too much,

846
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,239
and sometimes in the run game, not even sometimes most

847
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,199
of the time, that can get you in trouble. But

848
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,480
to just throw a blanket on offensive line, here's your

849
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:33,679
starting grades for your offensive line in pass protection. And also,

850
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,559
like your eye should have told you, like there was

851
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:39,239
a real clean pocket. You gave up no sacks to Florida.

852
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,079
They had seven against you a year ago. You gave

853
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:47,000
up zero. Your starting center Braylan Moore eighty seven point nine.

854
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,679
This is on the season, by the way, this is

855
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,599
just one game. Paul Mubinga your left guard eighty three

856
00:42:54,599 --> 00:42:57,679
point three, Josh Thompson your right guard eighty one point two,

857
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Tyree Adams your left tackle eight point nine. Now West

858
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,559
and Davis your right tackle. And that's probably where you've

859
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:08,599
seen the most leakage from sixty two. So I can

860
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,000
we can have that conversation. But when you've got on

861
00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,679
Pro Football Focus, which we love here, we talk about

862
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,360
the grades. Often when you have all other starting linemen

863
00:43:18,599 --> 00:43:23,320
at least at seventy eight point nine or higher, it's

864
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,800
the take doesn't take. It's not a take. You watch

865
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,559
tape and there's clean pockets, Like they have faced off

866
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:35,440
against Clemson that's got two first round defensive linemen and

867
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,519
given up one sack, and then they play a Florida

868
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:42,199
team that sacked you seven times a year ago and

869
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:46,320
you give up no sacks. The pass protection doesn't go

870
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,400
into the equation of why you haven't been as successful

871
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:52,079
throwing the football. It just doesn't. You can use it

872
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,000
as a narrative, but it's just not factual. Now in

873
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,679
the run game, again, you're right there, and again it's

874
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,280
not a talent thing. Right now, It's not like they're

875
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,199
just getting run through. They're just trying to be so

876
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,360
perfect in hand placement. Here it's like, well, actually your

877
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,880
guy had him already and you're wasting time getting to

878
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,639
the second level. We can have that conversation, but as

879
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:16,760
far as the passing portion of this, I'm not gonna

880
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,599
sit here and say that the pockets haven't been good,

881
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:19,400
because they have been.

882
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you have that many passes like we

883
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,239
just kind of broke down that passing chart that are

884
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,480
either behind the line of scrimmage or within five yards,

885
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,440
those are quick hitting things, and that is like, if

886
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,559
you're gonna protect an offensive line, yeah, you do it

887
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,679
with an element of quick passes, you do with the

888
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,519
element of screens, but at some point in games you

889
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,960
have to push the ball. You have to push it, yeah,

890
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:48,519
or you're just gonna get teed off on on screen

891
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:50,679
passes you're teed off on, you're gonna press coverage, you're

892
00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:52,199
gonna have safeties jumping down.

893
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 5: And there's other ways to help.

894
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 6: You help with chips, you help with nudges, you help

895
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,559
with thumps, you help with different ways that tied ends

896
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:03,800
and run can help the tackles block a defensive end.

897
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,920
And just like you said, right tackle, we probably seen

898
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,920
more chips, more thumps from on that side of the ball,

899
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:10,800
just helping the right tackle out a little bit more.

900
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,719
But a bad offensive line is not what we have,

901
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,719
Like we don't have a bad pass protecting off Like

902
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,679
I don't know, it's not last year's offensive line by

903
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,880
any means to this point in the season. But and

904
00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:26,360
they're getting better at working with each other. But you still,

905
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,159
like you push the ball down the field. Still there's

906
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,199
ways to protect it and push it. Like we saw

907
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,440
well Jaden's first year It was kind of the opposite,

908
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:37,239
the wrong way of doing it when you're just protecting

909
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,360
with seven eight guys and trying to throw a deep.

910
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,079
But the element, the threat of throwing it short, throwing

911
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:47,800
screens protects your offensive line as well. So I don't know,

912
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,239
it's not throwing it short is not a product of

913
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,000
an offensive line. Right now, we just hadn't seen bad protection.

914
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,519
Speaker 4: All right, more coming back your way. I remember two

915
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,679
OTV off the bench,