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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball here
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Speaker 2: me today is long time friend. I haven't seen you
Speaker 2: in forever. It's been a while. Mike Quinn, hope you
Speaker 2: have some takes today, Yeah, we'll see. And one who
Speaker 2: was with me at the game on Saturday, if how
Speaker 2: was your first experience with it's your first experience.
Speaker 3: First experience on a on a road game. It wasn't
Speaker 3: It wasn't bad. You know, hey, I hadn't made it
Speaker 3: out of alive, no expectations to it. Kind of kind
Speaker 3: of similar to when when football started, where there was
Speaker 3: no expectations. It was nice, it was new, it was
Speaker 3: it was a good experience, great game.
Speaker 2: A great game, fun game, great to write about. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what the so I threw it all in
Speaker 2: the pot, started up and wrote it, started up and
Speaker 2: wrote it down. Drama, drama, drama. It was a good
Speaker 2: it was a good article in a good article. By
Speaker 2: the way, well, thank you. Normally you're not gonna get
Speaker 2: paid anymore. You don't, I don't normally say that. If
Speaker 2: you want to.
Speaker 4: Read me, it's all sportsdou dot com.
Speaker 2: Uh, and it's typical is a rivalry game, right, a
Speaker 2: lot of drama. I've seen drama that crazy and you
Speaker 2: expect that in a in a rivalry game like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's let's go with this because we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about it a lot today.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna have just just so you know,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have Kyle Dodd in the first hour three seventeen.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows Kyle DoD. He's former ASU basketball player. Now
Speaker 2: he's the color guy for the radio show, radio show
Speaker 2: for the games. And then the other side, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have Brian Peterson, who was also at the game. So
Speaker 2: we'll talk to a lot about the game today and
Speaker 2: then maybe get ready for tomorrow.
Speaker 4: But no, let's go there.
Speaker 2: So you're a competitor, right, You and I have played
Speaker 2: against each other, plaid with each other, and well we
Speaker 2: haven't played with each other, but I mean, well, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I understanding where you're going on that.
Speaker 2: Say to you, yes, if you don't want to get
Speaker 2: Poop talked to you, win the damn game. If you
Speaker 2: want to be what to do, win the damn game
Speaker 2: or be ahead in the game, because all you have
Speaker 2: to do is point to the scoreboard and shut the
Speaker 2: hell up. It's like Sean's you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: to I want I don't want court stormys.
Speaker 4: You know what you do, don't lose the damn game.
Speaker 4: Don't lose the game. Don't lose dame game.
Speaker 2: So so I'm not going to defend Hurley or whatever,
Speaker 2: or even whatever because I hadn't.
Speaker 4: I hadn't. Did you have any problem with what happened?
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I can't imagine defending her at all. I
Speaker 2: mean the he talks more crap than anybody else a lot.
Speaker 4: That's and I think you and I had that conversation.
Speaker 4: We had that conversation.
Speaker 2: I mean it's just I mean, him sitting there talking
Speaker 2: about people, you know, yapping during the game. I'm like,
Speaker 2: he could be kidding me, dude, because he doesn't remember
Speaker 2: when he played or when he coached thirty five years ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was the king of talk crap yep,
Speaker 2: you know, with with him and some.
Speaker 4: Of the other guys. I mean, come on, it's how
Speaker 4: do you bully a bully? You'd be a bully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be a bully, bunch in the nose. Yeah, yeah, incredible,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: I had no issue, but the reasons why he sent
Speaker 3: his players and the coaches neither do neither good good reasoning.
Speaker 3: I did not logically agree with at least him and
Speaker 3: Tommy not shaking hands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't agree with that.
Speaker 3: I think I think you know, you're put in that
Speaker 3: head close position. Has got to be that level of
Speaker 3: professionalism and sportsmanship to at least go competitor to competitor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is not a novel. This is not novel.
Speaker 2: You look, okay, you got fifteen guys on the team.
Speaker 2: Fifteen guys on the team. You cannot maintain control of
Speaker 2: fifteen guys and just say we play with class, be
Speaker 2: a class player.
Speaker 4: Don't do this stuff. You can't do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's football teams that have eighty five players
Speaker 2: are talking about.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? The issue side the issues?
Speaker 4: It's you.
Speaker 2: You know, look, you want to talk crap during the game,
Speaker 2: and you talk crapt during the game. Okay, but you better
Speaker 2: be able to control these guys. Through a handshake. Well,
Speaker 2: here's the issue. To me, there's so many issues, but
Speaker 2: not really big excited. We'll give a crap. But okay,
Speaker 2: So he was being talked to and they didn't like
Speaker 2: the yapping and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna resort to head buddy. Yeah really really
Speaker 4: one extremist for the other. But you know, we were
Speaker 4: being told about, so he resorted to this that one
Speaker 4: very bad doesn't make another really bad. Right now, go ahead,
Speaker 4: let's go. We got call ready, which is cool. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there you go. There's no line that you go over there.
Speaker 2: It's okay to go over right, to get into head buddy,
Speaker 2: right or punching or pushing you're.
Speaker 4: On aaron I the ball? Who's this? Hey, hey, good good?
Speaker 4: Tell me you're insight? What do you got?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting. Here's my analogy of this sport.
Speaker 6: I grew up playing sports my whole life. I was
Speaker 6: d one college golfer. And the whole thing about sports
Speaker 6: is the hardest thing in sports is the losing handshake
Speaker 6: and when it's when you have to acknowledge that somebody
Speaker 6: kicked your butt. And now I don't mind that they
Speaker 6: took his players off this floor to avoid something, you know,
Speaker 6: a skoy wile breaking out something like that. But I
Speaker 6: agree with whoever said that he should have at least
Speaker 6: been mad enough to go up to Tommy and shake
Speaker 6: his hand to acknowledge the end of the game. And
Speaker 6: you know it's it was very well as me for
Speaker 6: how he his post game went. Yeah, with all you
Speaker 6: know the talk and you know this and all that
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, it was a heat and rval
Speaker 6: I saw smack talking on both sides of the floor.
Speaker 6: I've watched you in a basketball for forty years and
Speaker 6: I've seen nothing but smack talking on both sides of
Speaker 6: the floor. But it comes down that loser's handshake either
Speaker 6: makes you work harder to be a better competitor, or
Speaker 6: you submit to it and you're the second best. And
Speaker 6: you know, I'm honestly, I don't really worry too much
Speaker 6: about a little brother in Phoenix. You know, we've dominated them.
Speaker 6: For our record since I've been watching basketball is one
Speaker 6: sixty one and eighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because the brother considerly there, they consider
Speaker 2: us little brother.
Speaker 4: It's certainly in football.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, go ahead, what do you got scoreboard? Football,
Speaker 6: we've got scoreboard and baseball. We've got scoreboard and basketball,
Speaker 6: and when and scoreboard and softball when he comes down
Speaker 6: to the four sports that matter and two song scoreboards
Speaker 6: a little brother.
Speaker 2: So, mister shows, let me say this. You're golfer Division one.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're a competitor and other things if you're
Speaker 2: with the boys, with you with the guys, uh playing
Speaker 2: and I'm sure like for some on a Sunday, Saturday
Speaker 2: or whatever, even in college, you're saying, come on, Alis,
Speaker 2: hit the ball, come on, come on, guys. I mean
Speaker 2: you're talking crap too. I'm I don't know golf, it's
Speaker 2: probably less less crazy, but I'm sure deep down you
Speaker 2: see what the hell are you doing? And and kind
Speaker 2: of not miss Smike. Talking in sports is a given.
Speaker 6: So I played in the riding league and it was
Speaker 6: you would have been surprised just how chippy it got,
Speaker 6: uh at conference championships twice, I mean where it was
Speaker 6: getting heated, you know, between between teams, between the two
Speaker 6: teams that you know. I played at Right State and
Speaker 6: we were one of the teams to beat all four
Speaker 6: years out of there and Butler was the other team
Speaker 6: basically in our conference that was the other team to
Speaker 6: play against, and we went ton to Tonneler and it
Speaker 6: got it got chippy, and you know, I mean as
Speaker 6: much as you here expect for a golf outing to
Speaker 6: potentially go fist, because I mean it was heated, and
Speaker 6: you know, there were gamesmanship that that that went on
Speaker 6: amongst the teams, and that's it.
Speaker 4: That's it, that's game, that's gaming. Ship. You don't want
Speaker 4: it to happen to you, don't let it happen.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, we had to
Speaker 6: shake hands too, and we lost. We lost conference twice
Speaker 6: and we won it twice, and our conference had to
Speaker 6: win conference to go to regional.
Speaker 2: Your coach said you at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you shake their hand, right, I mean.
Speaker 6: At the end of the day. And that's that's you know,
Speaker 6: no matter what sport you play, at the end of
Speaker 6: the day, that's what is supposed to happen. What happens
Speaker 6: between the lines is competitive and it is what it is,
Speaker 6: you know. And that's my only question is Caleb does
Speaker 6: he out for tomorrow right's game?
Speaker 2: No, we've we've we've written that at a number of times,
Speaker 2: you've said it on the internet and all that. No,
Speaker 2: that's what we were told on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Well that's why I expected. I mean, my understanding was
Speaker 6: if you got kicked out of the game, you had
Speaker 6: to sit out of the next game. But that's good,
Speaker 6: you know, because there's a little bit of anyways, neither
Speaker 6: here nor there. But yeah, I mean, the whole point
Speaker 6: of playing the game game competitor that's a competitor hates
Speaker 6: losing more than they love the winning. And it's it's
Speaker 6: it's just having it's just the fact that somebody did
Speaker 6: it a little bit better than you is a really
Speaker 6: tough to to swallow as a as a anybody that
Speaker 6: competes at a high level really hates that more than
Speaker 6: they you know, they expect to win, but they hate
Speaker 6: that lost. They never expect to lose. And I love
Speaker 6: the oday and I love that you know, we've had
Speaker 6: a little Brother's number up in Phoenix for so many years.
Speaker 2: Guys, right, thank you, thank you, joh I appreciate it
Speaker 2: so so to your point one, I don't disagree with
Speaker 2: you in terms of get the guys out, because there
Speaker 2: could something could have happened. May they may not have happened,
Speaker 2: but they might have right, Uh, that we've seen these
Speaker 2: lines get heated with the former Michigan guy five to
Speaker 2: five guy. Sure, you know, punching the other coaches stuff
Speaker 2: like that, that happens.
Speaker 4: I get it. People are competitive.
Speaker 2: Uh, And there's a difference between being competitive and going
Speaker 2: over the edge punching a coach in the in the
Speaker 2: handshake line. Uh, you know, headbutting a guy in the
Speaker 2: in the game. That's not being competitive, that's losing your cool.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering one and you, mister Quinn, on that if
Speaker 2: U A could appeal that foul because I think before
Speaker 2: upon further review, Caleb was just kind of going back.
Speaker 2: Maybe get a technical for go back, but to get
Speaker 2: thrown out for kind of defending yourself, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, was it because he said something to
Speaker 2: the official?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It didn't look like he did, but he was being
Speaker 2: pulled back. Hey, if that happens to me, I'd be
Speaker 2: pissed too.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think Caleb handled it good to start with,
Speaker 2: the way he fell back, started laughing but then came
Speaker 2: back at him.
Speaker 4: I think was was the was the issue, But that's
Speaker 4: at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: He made no contact with the guys. I still don't understand.
Speaker 2: I still don't understand why Caleb got kicked out. Well,
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole thing. I think that's why
Speaker 2: the review could be uh done and say okay, technical, yes,
Speaker 2: but maybe not the the two the two technicals.
Speaker 3: That's something they probably already looked at, just because from
Speaker 3: a league standpoint, they want to make sure their review
Speaker 3: everything and get it right. I'm looking back on it,
Speaker 3: and I've watched that play multiple times. It did look
Speaker 3: like he did say something to the rest, So did
Speaker 3: he what point when he was getting pulled back by
Speaker 3: Carter Bryant, he was just kept talking and at that point,
Speaker 3: you know, you got to stop to get back to
Speaker 3: your sideline things.
Speaker 2: But the circumstances of events at the time you kind
Speaker 2: of don't know. You don't know because you you already
Speaker 2: see that they're not doing anything about it until they
Speaker 2: watched the film and watch the tape and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and then it happens. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it happened, and let's move on. But but I'm not
Speaker 2: a u a grat, so I have no dog in
Speaker 2: a fight. I'm just able to tell a story. A
Speaker 2: lot of people are pissed for whatever reason, and more
Speaker 2: pissed of him because I think Bobby Bobby was out
Speaker 2: of place to me, and I think we talked about
Speaker 2: this on the sideline one. I don't think he's coming back,
Speaker 2: and I think he's going scorched earth to Hurley. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not. He's not coming back. He knows he's not
Speaker 2: coming back, So why not just burn out? You think
Speaker 2: he's done this season? I'm pretty sure. I'm not pretty sure,
Speaker 2: but that's my guess. Fans probably helped not They probably
Speaker 2: love this. No, yeah, of course, because they've owned him.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: It's not the situation of who are they going to
Speaker 2: go get? Well, it's they're gonna get anybody.
Speaker 4: Well. The thing about is we've talked.
Speaker 2: I've been here thirty seven years. They could get whomever,
Speaker 2: and it hasn't worked. We'll talk to Kyle doubt about
Speaker 2: that because we couldn't continue outside of this room. Talk
Speaker 2: about the issue being a sleeping giant right in athletics.
Speaker 2: Football kind of had this Football and basketball they could be,
Speaker 2: but they've screwed it up so many times. It's not
Speaker 2: very good with whoever they try to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens at the
Speaker 3: end of the season. Uh, some projections still have them
Speaker 3: as a possible NCAA tournament team just because there's so
Speaker 3: much opportunity out there for them in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4: We'll see what happens. So they play again in March.
Speaker 2: Here's another issue and I just got to tweet about
Speaker 2: it that Tommy should address the issue.
Speaker 4: About the situation.
Speaker 2: He kind of talked about that in terms of are
Speaker 2: we class and because someone asked him right about the class,
Speaker 2: but about him talking about Caleb, about Hurley talking about Caleb,
Speaker 2: Lloyd should feel obligated to address what Hurley said about love,
Speaker 2: especially the last part where the no Player of the
Speaker 2: Year blah blah blah. That's kind of true. But Petty,
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't do it. He might have just
Speaker 2: set it off the cuff. And if he doesn't feel
Speaker 2: that way that he doesn't. There's a lot of other
Speaker 2: dudes that have been pretty good. Yeah, that that is true.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of Big twelve players out there that
Speaker 3: have had a really good season.
Speaker 4: But what else is he going to say that he
Speaker 4: hasn't said already?
Speaker 3: You know, he stands he said, He's said it multiple
Speaker 3: times this season that he stands by Caleb Love and
Speaker 3: always will.
Speaker 4: Sure. So here's the issue too.
Speaker 2: Okay, so if they played tomorrow against BUYU, they're on
Speaker 2: the road, there's only one real guy that's going to
Speaker 2: ask that question because none of us are with the team.
Speaker 2: That's Bruce, and he might eventually, because Bruce and Bruce,
Speaker 2: he'll ask that question. Yeah, we'll get him back on
Speaker 2: the return trip Thursday, Friday maybe, And then by that
Speaker 2: time you're almost a week removed from the.
Speaker 4: Game, and you got focusing on text stead on something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the news, the news cycles already got
Speaker 2: coming here something though.
Speaker 4: Should he address it? Maybe just in a written state.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is I disagree with Bobby and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and and that's all you got.
Speaker 4: What's the matter?
Speaker 7: Die?
Speaker 4: You die?
Speaker 2: Arizona knows who they are, and he's talked about that.
Speaker 4: There's bigger things just focus on for Arizona and Tommy Lloyd.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think a lot of people outside of
Speaker 2: the program, the people who watch and observe and tweet
Speaker 2: and basbook, are more concerned about it than people involved. Yeah,
Speaker 2: people are worried about my relationships don't worry about.
Speaker 3: Okay, don't worry about it. We're doing just fine. We're
Speaker 3: in our honeymoon phasey.
Speaker 2: Let's take a great quay to get ahold of Kyle
Speaker 2: Dog gonna review some of the stuff on their side.
Speaker 2: I wonder how he called it, and that's that's kind
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Wady and the Ball. Here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports sportsun fifty times. Steve rovertaure Mike Quinn. I
Speaker 2: am Mike Quinn. Now on the phone, we have Kyle Dodd,
Speaker 2: former you of a you. Ah, holy, let me start over,
Speaker 2: former a isshoe guard. Uh and a you have a
Speaker 2: pain in the neck, but he's proud of it.
Speaker 4: How are you doing, Kyle?
Speaker 17: Well, if you introduced me as a as a U
Speaker 17: of A guard, does that mean my record flip from
Speaker 17: one to eight to eight and one? I'll take that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you you were part of this rivalry. Can you
Speaker 2: talk about the rivalry and what it means? And then
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with another question from that.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, uh, you know what's funny because obviously
Speaker 17: we've been have a couple of crazy days since the
Speaker 17: game was played, and just a lot of emotion, a
Speaker 17: lot of stuff that's been talked about, and you know,
Speaker 17: I've been telling people and I even said it on
Speaker 17: the air in my postgame show, and I said it
Speaker 17: a couple of times last week, like I don't really
Speaker 17: enjoy it anymore. As I got older and as I
Speaker 17: started a family, and I had trouble separating like my
Speaker 17: hatred towards Arizona and like life like so, I mean
Speaker 17: i would walk to a into a U of a
Speaker 17: game and I'd see a family just like my family,
Speaker 17: and I'd see three little kids wearing you know, Celine
Speaker 17: Stottomire jersey or whatever, and I'm like, damn, I hate
Speaker 17: those kids, you know. And and I had like it. Yeah,
Speaker 17: and I had to like take a step back and
Speaker 17: like realize, like it's it's it's. I have an appreciation
Speaker 17: for the ravalry now, like I I appreciate what you
Speaker 17: guys have built in basketball. I appreciate Arizona fans being
Speaker 17: so passionate. I still, you know, I still jump in
Speaker 17: the arguments, I still take jabs. I still play the game,
Speaker 17: you know, but yeah, I mean I don't enjoy the
Speaker 17: games really honestly, I just I mean in any sport,
Speaker 17: because I just it's almost like I just rather you
Speaker 17: just tell me who won at the end of the
Speaker 17: game and I don't have to deal with it because
Speaker 17: sometimes to me, I think the rivalry brings the worst
Speaker 17: out of us as people. And you know, and I
Speaker 17: know it's just a few bad situations or bad apples
Speaker 17: and the fans or whatever, but but still it's just like,
Speaker 17: uh yeah, it's it's crazy, it's but the the appreciation
Speaker 17: part is that people are so passionate and they're so intent,
Speaker 17: you know, on on their team winning that it's something
Speaker 17: that brings people together on both sides, you know, with
Speaker 17: just rooting against the other team.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because you and Richard Jefferson did that
Speaker 2: exactly what you're saying. You guys went back and forth
Speaker 2: at each other, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you guys were kumbayah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, it's like I said, it's it's you know,
Speaker 17: like I know, he took some shots at Bobby or whatever,
Speaker 17: and then Ten took some shots at the issue saying,
Speaker 17: you know, this is the reputation, and I know, I
Speaker 17: know the stories. There's some disgusting stories on both sides
Speaker 17: of how what what was said, you know, during during
Speaker 17: certain games to certain people. And this the Steve Kerr
Speaker 17: stuff that's unexcusable, you know, and the Bobby Olsen Loud
Speaker 17: Olsen stuff for students and that's not unexcusable. And there's
Speaker 17: been stuff, you know, and and I don't talk about
Speaker 17: it a lot, but I mean I could go back and
Speaker 17: open up my ASU dot e edu email account when
Speaker 17: I was after I got the fight with Walton, and
Speaker 17: I mean stuff that I had to quite for turnover
Speaker 17: to like ASU police because it was like people were
Speaker 17: threatening to come to my apartment beat the hell out
Speaker 17: of me, you know, and I'm just like, that's not real.
Speaker 17: But yeah, I mean that's what I told Richard on there.
Speaker 17: You know, I just said, hey, look, I mean it
Speaker 17: is what it is.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 17: We uh, we have we have people that take it
Speaker 17: too far on both sides. And at the end of
Speaker 17: the day, I think we all understand we're we're all
Speaker 17: human beings, and yeah, it's just we're gonna have our opinions,
Speaker 17: different opinions. And I'm you know, I'm still gonna hate
Speaker 17: Arizona and hope they lose every game. But I can
Speaker 17: still sit there and run into you before a football
Speaker 17: game in Tucson and chat with you and Anthony for
Speaker 17: and and be friends and and go on your you know,
Speaker 17: go on your in your classroom and do that stuff.
Speaker 17: So it's it's like I said, as I got older,
Speaker 17: I'm able to separate, you know, the the real intense
Speaker 17: feelings I have towards Arizona, and then like still have
Speaker 17: a bunch of friends in Tucson and still appreciate Arizona
Speaker 17: and in a weird way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, how did you call this?
Speaker 2: How'd you call the final minute.
Speaker 17: Unfortunate? I mean, that's what I just I just wish
Speaker 17: that it didn't happen. I mean, selfishly, I'm joking when
Speaker 17: I say this, but I'm kind of mad at bj
Speaker 17: Freeman because he might have taken my spot in the
Speaker 17: top five of the most tap the players at u A.
Speaker 17: So no, but but seriously, you know, like it's just unfortunate.
Speaker 17: It's the stuff that you just don't don't want to happen,
Speaker 17: you know. Obviously the handshake thing is you know, I understand,
Speaker 17: you know, keeping the situation away from uh, you know,
Speaker 17: escalating further and and whatnot. But and and nobody can
Speaker 17: nobody can jump inside of coach Hurley's head and you know,
Speaker 17: really understand what you know, what his And I'm sure
Speaker 17: he's a very calculated person. He's you know, super competitive,
Speaker 17: as you guys see. And for whatever his reasoning was,
Speaker 17: you know, he does make decisions with conviction, and he's
Speaker 17: and he believed in and that was the right decision.
Speaker 17: And I thought, you know, after the game and Tommy,
Speaker 17: I thought Tommy was really good in the press conference.
Speaker 17: I mean he said, you know, he agreed, didn't want
Speaker 17: anything further, and you know, it's just it was just unfortunate.
Speaker 17: I will say that, I just wish it didn't come
Speaker 17: to that. Again, I can't you know, I can't speak
Speaker 17: for anybody and any other decisions, but I just I
Speaker 17: wish that it hadn't come to that. I I wish
Speaker 17: the game would have just finished and I would have
Speaker 17: gone home pissing and moaning and crying like I always
Speaker 17: do what you guys beat us, especially at Tempe. But yeah,
Speaker 17: it was just I didn't want to see it that
Speaker 17: happened that way. And you know, I just, like I said,
Speaker 17: sometimes the rabbitry brings really bad stuff out of people,
Speaker 17: and I just didn't want to see that.
Speaker 2: So Bobby Hurley is passionate uhas Yeah, I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: put it up, put all those in caps.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's he's passionate, fiery and angry. Uh at that game
Speaker 2: he was really angry. Did that help or her? I mean,
Speaker 2: is that is that a uh? Is his tea a
Speaker 2: reflection of that of his personality.
Speaker 4: In that way?
Speaker 17: You know, I think I think what you see on
Speaker 17: the sideline with Coach Hurley is everything that made him
Speaker 17: a great player. You know. It's that competitive spirit. It's
Speaker 17: I'll do anything to win. I you know, I'm not
Speaker 17: going to back down from anything. I think the players
Speaker 17: that you know that play for him appreciate that he
Speaker 17: battles for them all the time.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 17: It's it's like I said, if you're if you've got
Speaker 17: a guy on your side, you know, for me, for
Speaker 17: for issue, then the passion and the love that he
Speaker 17: has for airs of the state and wants to win
Speaker 17: so bad, I appreciate it. But on the other side,
Speaker 17: I can understand that like people might view that as
Speaker 17: you know, this guy just won't stop screaming and yelling.
Speaker 17: But I just think everything that is in his character
Speaker 17: on the floor is what made him a great player,
Speaker 17: and is what and and what made him you know,
Speaker 17: a good coach for us. So you know that being said,
Speaker 17: you know, it's just again it's just a difference of
Speaker 17: perspect because then you couldn't find a nicer human being
Speaker 17: off the floor than coaches. Like he is total opposite.
Speaker 17: If you see him fiery and crazy and you know,
Speaker 17: wanting to win, but then you get him off the
Speaker 17: floor in the hotel and you know, just just out
Speaker 17: and about like you know, we travel obviously with the team,
Speaker 17: and Coach is just a genuinely nice guy, constantly doing
Speaker 17: I mean our story after story, constantly doing nice things
Speaker 17: for random people or strangers or you know, I think
Speaker 17: I've told stories before, but uh, you know, I mean,
Speaker 17: like we're up in Washington when time driving a bus
Speaker 17: to the shoot around and there was a homeless guy
Speaker 17: that had a like a Bobby Hurley Duke Jersey on.
Speaker 17: Bobby stopped the bus, got off the bus across the street.
Speaker 17: Everybody's like what is going on? And we just see
Speaker 17: him like run across the street and talk to the guy.
Speaker 17: And gave him something nobody knows. I we think he
Speaker 17: gave him some money, but I'm like, nobody knows the story.
Speaker 17: But like every and he didn't say no, he didn't
Speaker 17: explain it to anybody, but it was just like and
Speaker 17: this guy is looking and he's trying to hit his
Speaker 17: buddy who's like half asleep, to explain what just happened.
Speaker 17: And you know, his buddy's like, you know, I don't
Speaker 17: even want to hear it. But it was, Yeah, it
Speaker 17: was just like stuff like that. And there's countless stories
Speaker 17: like that. So he, you know, off the floor, he
Speaker 17: is just a genuinely nice guy, and when he gets
Speaker 17: on the floor, he wants to win, and he wants
Speaker 17: to he wants to battle for his team. And that's
Speaker 17: that's what you see. You see the fire up hit
Speaker 17: you know inside.
Speaker 4: You see it with his brother too. But let me
Speaker 4: let me go here.
Speaker 2: You could talk to twelve thousand people in the arena
Speaker 2: and they'll have twelve different thousand opinions on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I had no problem with him taking the kids off,
Speaker 2: because who knows something could happen. I have no problem
Speaker 2: him saying I don't want to shake my hand. Let's
Speaker 2: go because it's just what it is.
Speaker 4: The one issue I found kind of strange is he
Speaker 4: was on a team that tucked a lot of crap.
Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, I mean, like, you.
Speaker 2: Can't be given to people a hard time for talk
Speaker 2: talking crap when you got Bobby hurt Christian Lightner on
Speaker 2: the other side.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean I don't think, you know, if you
Speaker 17: watch Bobby play, I don't think Bobby was like a
Speaker 17: chirper like Lightner was. But yeah, he did play with
Speaker 17: the guy that was probably the most notorious, you know
Speaker 17: for people getting forgetting under people's skin. So yeah, there's
Speaker 17: you know, the irony of that is is you know,
Speaker 17: I mean, obviously christilating, there is a lightning rod for competitor.
Speaker 2: You know if once you play, I covered you, and
Speaker 2: now we've become friends and you're a competitor. Guess what
Speaker 2: athletes do when they face each other. You talk a
Speaker 2: lot of crap.
Speaker 17: Yeah yeah. I played with Eddie House, which is the
Speaker 17: I've never seen anything like it. So he was he
Speaker 17: was a lot of fun to listen to.
Speaker 4: Half the time.
Speaker 17: I was just like in awe of some of the
Speaker 17: stuff that he was able to go at people with
Speaker 17: and then still be able to you know, put up forty.
Speaker 17: But uh yeah, it's you know, within the within the game,
Speaker 17: there's a lot that said. Obviously, I have the the
Speaker 17: privilege of being down there on the court, and you know,
Speaker 17: and and I hear a lot of the stuff, and
Speaker 17: you know, I would never throw anybody under the bus
Speaker 17: on either team, but I mean, yeah, there was a
Speaker 17: lot of stuff that was said and a lot of
Speaker 17: things that happened in both directions that yeah, I wasn't
Speaker 17: a you know, wasn't a fan of. But then I
Speaker 17: could sit here and get on my high horse and say, yeah,
Speaker 17: I can't believe Caleb Loves said this, this is this.
Speaker 17: But then I mean I was an idiot on the
Speaker 17: floor too, Like I did anything and everything to try to,
Speaker 17: you know, give my team a competitive advantage. And different
Speaker 17: people compete in different ways, so I think on both sides, honestly,
Speaker 17: I just yeah, there was a lot of it. But
Speaker 17: that's why that's when have we not seen that in
Speaker 17: the rivalry.
Speaker 3: So obviously, you know, there's there's the rest of the
Speaker 3: Big Twelve season to go for Arizona State. Right now,
Speaker 3: they're projected as a fifty to fifty shot into the
Speaker 3: NCAA tournament.
Speaker 4: Where do the sun Devils go from here?
Speaker 17: And we got to win some games, man, I mean,
Speaker 17: uh yeah, I mean still after after being three and
Speaker 17: seven in the league, losing four straight home games, we're
Speaker 17: still on the bubble. And that's crazy. That just shows
Speaker 17: you the strength of the conference. All four games, three
Speaker 17: of them to rank teams, Well, now you guys are twenty.
Speaker 17: I mean we were up, we were winning inside the
Speaker 17: five minute mark or had the lead or tied you know,
Speaker 17: in all four games, were right there and just weren't
Speaker 17: able to pull those out. And then you know, eventually
Speaker 17: those that starts stacking up losses and they have some
Speaker 17: wins available. I mean, obviously k State at home is
Speaker 17: a must win on Tuesday, but they're coming off a
Speaker 17: game where they just went to ames Iowa and beat
Speaker 17: Iowa State. So I mean, but then we go to
Speaker 17: Oklahoma State and then we have, you know, some other
Speaker 17: home games that you know, you you gotta try, you
Speaker 17: gotta try to win all your home games from here
Speaker 17: on out, even though it's gonna be really tough. And
Speaker 17: then you got to pick a couple off the road.
Speaker 17: But I think the number for me is that they
Speaker 17: found a way to get to nine wins. I think
Speaker 17: they're safely in because because of the good wins that
Speaker 17: that would mean you got a couple of good good
Speaker 17: win wins. And they're only they only have one loss
Speaker 17: upside quad basically quad one this year, so and so
Speaker 17: quads two through four. We have one loss and that
Speaker 17: was at Cincinnati, which you know would be that's what
Speaker 17: they would consider a bad loss. But yeah, I think
Speaker 17: if they win some games. I mean, so you have
Speaker 17: ten games left, so they would have to go what
Speaker 17: six and for for the last ten to get to
Speaker 17: nine wins and and see what they can what they
Speaker 17: can do.
Speaker 2: You were part of the pack twen, Pack twelve, right
Speaker 2: pack twe pack ten?
Speaker 17: I was, I played in the Pack ten.
Speaker 4: But yeah, okay, so yeah tells you how old you are.
Speaker 2: I won't say yeah anything, but you you go to
Speaker 2: you on the road to a lot of these places.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's not the you're not in the pack ten anymore.
Speaker 2: This is to me, this is fantastic, the best move
Speaker 2: both teams can have done in the basketball conference. You
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta show up every day or you're against
Speaker 2: your ass handed to you, even at home. Houston found
Speaker 2: that out. You know what I'm saying, it's just tough.
Speaker 2: If you're a competitor, and I know you are. We've
Speaker 2: talked a number of times. This must be heaven.
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's crazy, man. I mean, this is what I've
Speaker 17: been saying to people. It's like, you know, coming to
Speaker 17: McHale every every night, and the crazy I mean because
Speaker 17: it's it's packed. Everywhere we've been has been sold out.
Speaker 17: It's been crazy energy. What I will say is the
Speaker 17: big cool fans are like really really nice people.
Speaker 1: Like it's you don't have some.
Speaker 17: Of the arrogance and just like they're really like there
Speaker 17: was times when you go to UCLA or you go
Speaker 17: to Stanford and you and you just you're like, god, man,
Speaker 17: these people are just ruthless, you know. But like everybody's
Speaker 17: really welcoming and welcome to the conference. Here's where you
Speaker 17: should go, here's what you should do, blah blah blah.
Speaker 17: And you know, other outside the travel and the weather,
Speaker 17: everywhere we've been there's been snow on the ground everywhere.
Speaker 17: You know, the travel has been a little bit rough,
Speaker 17: you know, just different. I missed the one hour flight
Speaker 17: to LA but it's yeah, it's it's been a cool
Speaker 17: experience to see some of these other places and the
Speaker 17: passion of these fans and and yet, like I said,
Speaker 17: they're very respectful and nice. And I'm sure they're so
Speaker 17: nice to you know, us and and you guys because
Speaker 17: they get a chance to come and getting eighty degree
Speaker 17: weather and watch their team play, you know, twice a year.
Speaker 17: So but yeah, it's been it's been really a really
Speaker 17: pleasant surprise. It's a gauntlet, man. It's it's a good
Speaker 17: league and there's not a lot of wins available. You
Speaker 17: got to go take them in Arizona. I mean it's
Speaker 17: a perfect example of uh. I mean they're flipped their
Speaker 17: season big time. And I mean sitting at nine and one,
Speaker 17: I mean nine wins in this conference in your first
Speaker 17: ten is it's quite a feat.
Speaker 2: Let me say this, good luck when you come back.
Speaker 2: I know you're right next to Bobby in the so
Speaker 2: you're gonna you hear it.
Speaker 4: You know how these guys are with him?
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, yeah, I think yeah, And that's I think
Speaker 17: it's a late night game too. And I you know
Speaker 17: already are a lot of my friends are like, oh
Speaker 17: my god, you have no idea, And I'm like, dude,
Speaker 17: I know, I would expect nothing else, and I think
Speaker 17: the building in that place is going to be uh crazy,
Speaker 17: and you know, I'm sure there's a lot of hostilities
Speaker 17: and stuff. I would say, like the number one thing
Speaker 17: for me would be that we'll get through that game
Speaker 17: and we don't have any crazy incidents with any bad
Speaker 17: apples on on either side. But yeah, it's gonna be mchable,
Speaker 17: will be rocking. So it's the craziest I've ever seen
Speaker 17: it there. For me was the year I actually did
Speaker 17: win the one game I won. We won in Tempion.
Speaker 17: It was a weird schedule. We played like two weeks
Speaker 17: later down there, and it was like they weren't having
Speaker 17: any of it because we we we beat him up
Speaker 17: pretty good and I think you guys went out like
Speaker 17: twenty six to four. Jason went off. I was telling
Speaker 17: Jason Gardner the story last year that was the wall
Speaker 17: fight actually, and uh, we're getting just blown out of
Speaker 17: the building and I was just like, and that roof
Speaker 17: was going to, you know, blow off that place. And
Speaker 17: I think that's why I lost my mind a little bit.
Speaker 17: And I didn't I didn't get to enjoy the rest
Speaker 17: of the game. I only made it like halfway through
Speaker 17: the first half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well will you enjoyed the last second shot
Speaker 2: two a couple of years ago, So.
Speaker 4: That was fun.
Speaker 17: Yeah, that was That was probably my best obviously my
Speaker 17: best moment. And the thing I remember at that shot too,
Speaker 17: is just how it's the first time that I think
Speaker 17: they're ever like most of you, a U of A
Speaker 17: fans walking out of the building, We're like, hey, man,
Speaker 17: like that was just what a shot, you know? And
Speaker 17: it was yeah, it was like even at that point
Speaker 17: everybody And it was a really well played game before
Speaker 17: that too, so both teams played really well. And yeah,
Speaker 17: but that was, yeah, it was it was surprising even
Speaker 17: U of A fan Like we actually went to dirt
Speaker 17: Bags and to have a beer before we went home,
Speaker 17: me and Doug Tamer and Tim and and it was
Speaker 17: all U of A fans and everybody was just like,
Speaker 17: holy cow, what a what a shot?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 2: The thing about that this would be my last thought Bobby.
Speaker 2: Bobby was so excited. He went and hugged a couple
Speaker 2: of people, and then he came back to the bench
Speaker 2: and gave all the all the fans right there on
Speaker 2: the edge of grief.
Speaker 17: If you remember, Yeah, he gets I mean I think
Speaker 17: that was you know, uh he gets it as you
Speaker 17: know from those that group of fans behind the bench.
Speaker 17: He gets it really bad. And I think he yeah,
Speaker 17: that was his moment to be like, you know, express himself.
Speaker 17: But uh, if we think it's been bad in the
Speaker 17: in the past, I'm sure that whole group behind the
Speaker 17: bench this year, I'm sure that they'll beef up some
Speaker 17: security because that's going to be a hostile.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Feel safe, Okay, thank Kyle, appreciate you, thank you.
Speaker 17: Yeah, no prop anytime. Guys have a good week, right.
Speaker 2: Take care Kyle dot from Ishoe guard dot you obey guard.
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Speaker 2: I am one with us today. Yes, sir, just a
Speaker 2: bunch of bitching today. Yeah, I mean we're we're just
Speaker 2: complaining about that. We'll have more typical Monday, right, yeah, yah, yeah,
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Speaker 4: And I think that was my first time I call her.
Speaker 4: Agreed with me.
Speaker 3: You know, I've had a couple that say, all these
Speaker 3: kids now, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 4: It felt good, it felt good. I'm gonna just want
Speaker 4: to say that it.
Speaker 2: Looked like you were a little jacked about that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I do too. Okay, he could have either way,
Speaker 2: either here nor there for me, just you know, get
Speaker 2: the guys off. You don't want to escalate anything. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's cool, shake hands, done that before. Yeah, you know, I've.
Speaker 3: Actually experienced the situation where it was middle school and
Speaker 3: things got heated.
Speaker 4: Those parents were getting into it.
Speaker 3: And of course the parents and so they just told us, hey,
Speaker 3: next time we will, but right now, let's just get
Speaker 3: our kids out of here.
Speaker 4: Go to that corner. Go to that corner. You're good
Speaker 4: to go were the kids and get it into or
Speaker 4: the parents.
Speaker 3: The parents were fueling the fire the kids, you know,
Speaker 3: kids and competitors and yeah, so you have the parents
Speaker 3: to it, you know, just separate, just separate.
Speaker 4: The next time.
Speaker 2: In a wrestling meeting, was in the wrestling team and
Speaker 2: we had to fight away out of the gym. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll talk to about that later. You gotta call hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air, round the ball?
Speaker 4: Who's this.
Speaker 7: Mind?
Speaker 4: How you doing there?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: This is this is Miguel Come sta. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: I would then we come and get you. Man, They're
Speaker 4: gonna come and get you.
Speaker 19: Oh man, you know what, you know what The rest
Speaker 19: is the most Mexican thing you can do is go
Speaker 19: to work.
Speaker 4: Right, That's funny. I'm sure someone told you that. That's
Speaker 4: why you picked that up. But that's funny. Oh dude,
Speaker 4: I was, I was there.
Speaker 11: Anyway, That's just the whole other candid words.
Speaker 19: Let's talk about the candid words that have it. And
Speaker 19: I saw your sitting next to a j man.
Speaker 4: You have some at least, No, he had better seats
Speaker 4: than me.
Speaker 2: I went down to say hi, and he's on New
Speaker 2: Mexico guy and we talked and then I said, we
Speaker 2: got this is not official until we take the selfie.
Speaker 19: They're all fo you're all selfing photo.
Speaker 2: I looked about one hundred looked like Moses when he
Speaker 2: comes down from the mountain.
Speaker 19: All right, But but anyway, you know, with the whole
Speaker 19: Bobby hurling thing, his petulant behavior, and I love his faces,
Speaker 19: him and Jake Cutllyric Kindred, and they can make a
Speaker 19: face to look good in a photo opp to save
Speaker 19: their life. They're a walking mean And for him to
Speaker 19: you know, rest on the on the excuse that they
Speaker 19: you know, he saw it escalating and and he did
Speaker 19: it on the whole planning the flag thing and once
Speaker 19: he think he is uh Michigan or Ohio State. This
Speaker 19: isn't Michigan or again to Ohio State. This is a
Speaker 19: fat guy versus a.
Speaker 6: Sun beaten lawn chair.
Speaker 19: Straight up the hammer and the nail. And I know
Speaker 19: there's reads a dude from Scattaboo and the way they
Speaker 19: handle us in football, but we're still winning in football,
Speaker 19: and it's it's it gets to that.
Speaker 4: But they needed to shake hands. And after you get
Speaker 4: whipped and.
Speaker 19: Put in the corner, you gotta be humble enough to
Speaker 19: shake hands. What are they doing, They're making men right.
Speaker 4: Well, that's a man.
Speaker 11: Teachable moment to say when things escalate.
Speaker 19: The game is over, the competitiveness is done, and this
Speaker 19: is where you humble yourself. This isn't life or debt.
Speaker 19: This is basketball, and that's teachable. He didn't teach him
Speaker 19: a damn thing. All he taught him was you guys
Speaker 19: should be pissed and blow it off in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Yea, I hear you, And I don't want to disagrete
Speaker 2: you because I think you're kind of right. But you know,
Speaker 2: I says my father would say, and maybe yours yup.
Speaker 4: I can't. What's the point now, yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 17: I get it.
Speaker 11: And Streaman's note a villain.
Speaker 4: He's he's not.
Speaker 19: He's not something we think about, something we worry about.
Speaker 19: He's just as good as Bobby Hurley. Hurley's just now
Speaker 19: that he's not his brother, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, well, that's what we have some breaking news on
Speaker 2: that too. In a few minutes.
Speaker 19: We'll see, Yes, Sarah so so bare down, I love
Speaker 19: y'all and living that miserable Dallas cowboy life.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you about that.
Speaker 2: Your your owner, because they just moved up. He just
Speaker 2: moved up. The dude who's a substitute teacher. No thing's
Speaker 2: gonna come that nothing.
Speaker 11: Well, well, what the what happened was he wanted Mike McCarty,
Speaker 11: but he wanted Mike McCarty for three years, and Mike
Speaker 11: Mike McCarty smelled his own uh perfume, so to speak,
Speaker 11: because they he wanted the Bears wanted to talk to him,
Speaker 11: and and and Jerry said no. So he thought he
Speaker 11: coul averaged five years and he only wanted three years,
Speaker 11: and it would have been a Garrett situation.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think this.
Speaker 19: Is the blessing in disguise. I like the old line
Speaker 19: coach they got from the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: I like what it's gonna happen.
Speaker 6: Either way, I was gonna be miserable.
Speaker 17: So this is just.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, this is just another way
Speaker 4: to stop my toe.
Speaker 19: It's either the cinder block or the bed frame.
Speaker 11: That I broke with my big woman, or stuff my
Speaker 11: toe in.
Speaker 4: The corner or something in the way.
Speaker 19: I'm gonna have a broken little toe. So yeah, you
Speaker 19: already know everybody needs to calm down. Every four years
Speaker 19: it gets crazy. But I.
Speaker 2: On the podcast, Yeah, yeah, we'll get it the call
Speaker 2: real quick. Hello, you're on their line the ball.
Speaker 4: Who's this?
Speaker 17: It's Brian.
Speaker 4: The reason you got to follow Mike. But what do
Speaker 4: you got, bro?
Speaker 5: Well, just you know, you know, I watched the game
Speaker 5: like everybody else, and it was to me, Bobby Hurley,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, nothing changes with this guy. You know,
Speaker 5: he always has He always has an excuse.
Speaker 6: You know, this, with this, this, with that. You know,
Speaker 6: did he ever look.
Speaker 17: At his own his own actions and what he does,
Speaker 17: you know, but what he does.
Speaker 5: On that court and standing walks out on the court
Speaker 5: and the reps don't do anything to him. You know
Speaker 5: the player head button that can I understand his frustration.
Speaker 5: It was a terrible thing to do and he should
Speaker 5: not have done it. And what happened to him getting
Speaker 5: thrown out that was that was the proper thing. But
Speaker 5: do they do they understand that Bobby Hurley, that's like
Speaker 5: a little kid.
Speaker 4: On the court.
Speaker 17: Well, that's always complaining and whining.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I meant where I was
Speaker 2: going on the on the other question for or last guys,
Speaker 2: just like you know, he can't act a fool like
Speaker 2: that and then expect his team to be nice, to
Speaker 2: come cold and collect.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the issue to the avenue A d I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's why I say we got to see if
Speaker 2: he says, you know, stop it already or you'll be gone.
Speaker 17: Yeah, but you know, and one thing too, he sits
Speaker 17: there and does all this stuff and then you know,
Speaker 17: and then he turns around and calls Arizona class list.
Speaker 5: And I'm going okay about the way he.
Speaker 17: Acted the whole time, and not just for that one
Speaker 17: moment or whatever it was when U of A made
Speaker 17: a basket and me where and you know.
Speaker 5: The kids are going to chirp in each other that's
Speaker 5: just the way basketball and a lot of sports, absolutely.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 17: And if you can't handle that, and then maybe you
Speaker 17: should find another profession.
Speaker 2: No, Like I said, he was on one of the
Speaker 2: teams that tripped the most and had every reason.
Speaker 5: To him and and and and and he was one
Speaker 5: of the biggest chirpers.
Speaker 4: Yes, so we'll see, I mean, we'll see. It's just
Speaker 4: so strange. It's just it's to me, it's fun. It's
Speaker 4: a good story already. I don't only care about the rest.
Speaker 5: Yeah it is, well, yeah, I mean, I mean, especially
Speaker 5: the way it ended, and you know, and and and
Speaker 5: nice to see the u of A fans turning out
Speaker 5: like they get up there as usual, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm wondering if in the next day,
Speaker 2: if it hasn't already happened that they talked to each
Speaker 2: other on the phone and said, you know, okay, this
Speaker 2: is what happened. This is why, you know, because he
Speaker 2: waved them off. And then you saw the photos of
Speaker 2: Timmy lorjoin me what did I do?
Speaker 4: You know, like, what did I do? And he just
Speaker 4: waved them off and waved out Murphy.
Speaker 2: It was just it was just bizarre watching it and
Speaker 2: you're thinking, is this really happening?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, And and the worst part of it
Speaker 5: is all the stuff on ESPN and whatever basically went
Speaker 5: with what Hurley said, not saying, okay, what Hurley I
Speaker 5: never heard her mentioned about how we got a technical
Speaker 5: in the first half, you know, bracting like a fool,
Speaker 5: and you know, but but.
Speaker 17: But you they make a big issue about oh u
Speaker 17: of as class list.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to vote for kleb love for player
Speaker 5: or the conference, which not gonna get anyway.
Speaker 2: Right, but still ESPN slashes at hurlings.
Speaker 4: I mean, so so you.
Speaker 2: Know, he'd let him take his ball, and that's what
Speaker 2: he did. He just took his ball and went home
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 17: Well it's gonna be very interesting you.
Speaker 4: Know next month. Oh yeah, I'm here. It's gonna be
Speaker 4: lost time.
Speaker 17: Yeah, that's because.
Speaker 2: That's a good way to get back at him and
Speaker 2: just like kick their butts down.
Speaker 17: Here.
Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna have fourteen thousand crazy fans and maybe
Speaker 5: two hundred days two fans, not like it was up there.
Speaker 4: You're right, you're right crazy.
Speaker 5: And they're gonna let him have it the whole time.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's not like it's called that's called Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Do it all the time. Thanks, Brian, appreciate your call.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, yeah we got about a minute. Lot,
Speaker 2: I got a cup, I miss miscounted, Okay, we got it. Okay, No,
Speaker 2: I think Brian, it's all the culture legiti. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to bash this other side because it's just not
Speaker 2: worth it. Uh And everybody has has their opinion. It's
Speaker 2: not like you haven't seen this stuff before. No, I
Speaker 2: mean you've seen it before.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It happens. It happens sports,
Speaker 4: I mean all the time.
Speaker 3: That's what comes with the rivalry, especially sure in State.
Speaker 3: You know you're you're two hours away from each other.
Speaker 3: You have what I what I find interesting is just
Speaker 3: it's a game at Arizona State. There's a financial arena
Speaker 3: and the head coach of the home team is getting
Speaker 3: booed off of the court.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you something did you write about? What
Speaker 4: did you write?
Speaker 3: Would you have five takeaways from the first ten games?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Okay, so nothing really specifically, Like now.
Speaker 2: A lot of people are upset that when the writer,
Speaker 2: the AP writer didn't mention the technical up on him
Speaker 2: on coach, but talked about other things because they wanted
Speaker 2: to be Journalism.
Speaker 4: Is not like that. It's not like that. You write
Speaker 4: what I know.
Speaker 2: I didn't write about his technical because it didn't fit,
Speaker 2: didn't didn't fit the story. It didn't fit the story,
Speaker 2: the fight and the game. Yeah, I didn't need to
Speaker 2: put about this so Jaden's technical, although I did. I
Speaker 2: did because he did that. I saw it, you saw it.
Speaker 4: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: I think it's not fair. Anybody who thinks life is
Speaker 2: fair is totally wrong. It's not fair, not fair. You know,
Speaker 2: I could have been you. I was gonna say, it's
Speaker 2: like going just I mean, I look at you and
Speaker 2: I'm like, life's not fair.
Speaker 4: I can't have everything, like exactly, let's go, we gotta
Speaker 4: go