Speaker 1: Oh bred of des are.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: This is the Cults of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 3: I'm Jacob and today we have on Christopher Bolan, author
Speaker 3: of Solving nine eleven.
Speaker 2: My god, what.
Speaker 3: An absolute stud of a guest that we got for
Speaker 3: y'all today. Welcome to the show, Christopher.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, absolutely.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 6: Jonathan, you were telling me about this actually a couple
Speaker 6: of days ago, and apparently, mister Bolan, you were you
Speaker 6: have been in the center of the controversy of nine
Speaker 6: to eleven. People may have heard of you, maybe they
Speaker 6: haven't heard of you. So for all of our good
Speaker 6: cult members listening who may not have heard of you before,
Speaker 6: can you give us a little bit of a background
Speaker 6: as who you are and how did you get involved
Speaker 6: or even associated with the nine to eleven truth movement?
Speaker 4: Sure? Well, I was a journalist for a small weekly
Speaker 4: newspaper in Washington, DC called the American Free Press Erstwhile
Speaker 4: Erstwhile the spotlight and the paper had gone back into business,
Speaker 4: back into print in two thousand and two thousand and one,
Speaker 4: we were back at and I came to Washington. I
Speaker 4: came to actually it was late August and my family
Speaker 4: and I we took a trip to the East Coast
Speaker 4: from Chicago and where I'm from, and we were in Stove, Vermont.
Speaker 4: Then on nine to eleven, the day before nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: the Monday, we were driving back towards Washington, but got
Speaker 4: delayed and wound up staying in Highway ninety five just
Speaker 4: inside Maryland. And the whole thing came down in the
Speaker 4: early morning, and I was getting breakfast at the at
Speaker 4: the hotel, and I saw the planet struck the World
Speaker 4: Trade Center, and immediately it became, you know, one of
Speaker 4: one of the stories I'd be covering right for the
Speaker 4: for the paper, and it happened to fall right into
Speaker 4: my kind of domain, being a story about the Middle
Speaker 4: Eastern Middle Eastern tangent to it about there.
Speaker 6: Can I ask you what type of journalism were you
Speaker 6: doing at this time? You said journalism, But obviously you're
Speaker 6: not in the sports realm.
Speaker 4: No, my my journalism, my my my expertise is the
Speaker 4: Middle East, perhaps, uh, the Israel and the Palestinian question
Speaker 4: and the the Also, I had been become quite adept
Speaker 4: at the governing cover ups of of things like nine
Speaker 4: to eleven.
Speaker 6: So you are already in that type of headspace when
Speaker 6: this took place.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, the thing is that what becomes very clear
Speaker 4: is that when something like this happens, the government reacts
Speaker 4: in one of two ways. Either it either it embraces
Speaker 4: the problem full on, investigates it every which way and
Speaker 4: u and comes up with a proper investigation and criminal
Speaker 4: charges to the to the guilty. The other way is
Speaker 4: that it it is in some way complicit or or
Speaker 4: seeking to cover up what happened to the public, and
Speaker 4: there is no investigation, a fake investigation, and a cover
Speaker 4: up in the media. And the cover up is the
Speaker 4: most telling thing that you're going to find in a
Speaker 4: situation like this, And what we see with nine to
Speaker 4: eleven is that the government avoided key questions about what
Speaker 4: happened on nine to eleven, for example, the use of
Speaker 4: explosions explosives to bring down this hours in the building.
Speaker 4: There was abundant evidence from the people who were on
Speaker 4: the scene, people from the BBC, from the American news networks,
Speaker 4: from the firefighters, everybody. Hundreds of people talked about seeing
Speaker 4: bombs and explosives and observing and feeling explosions going off
Speaker 4: beneath their feet. Over their head in front of their faces,
Speaker 4: you know, firefighters and everybody. And that the that the
Speaker 4: mainstream media avoided this from day two. On day one,
Speaker 4: it was talked about people like the BBC's reporter Stephen
Speaker 4: Evans was at the World Trade Center and he talked
Speaker 4: about the the explosions that went off around him, deep
Speaker 4: down under the ground, up above his head, all around him.
Speaker 4: And yet after the first day he stopped talking about
Speaker 4: explosions completely. There you see, you have there, you see,
Speaker 4: you have a cover up at work. And the media
Speaker 4: is the prime, the primary instrument of the cover up.
Speaker 4: And what they what they sought to do, what they
Speaker 4: seek to do in a situation like this is that
Speaker 4: they seek to reinforce the government version of events, regardless
Speaker 4: how absurd it might be, and completely ignore evidence to
Speaker 4: the contrary. And that's what we had at nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: Right right, And you know what, there's so many theories
Speaker 3: regarding nine to eleven. Some people, you know, they'll say
Speaker 3: that it was direct energy weapons. Some people will say, well,
Speaker 3: it was airplanes. Some people say that, well, there was
Speaker 3: no airplanes. It was just bombs that were going off.
Speaker 3: And you've heard the thermide story time and time again.
Speaker 3: I mean, is it up your opinion just to lay
Speaker 3: it out in the front. Do you think that planes
Speaker 3: actually hit the twin towers or do you think that
Speaker 3: that was like a fake story, because whenever you look
Speaker 3: at the video footage of the planes and they're piercing
Speaker 3: through steel beams and going right through the buildings, and
Speaker 3: then you compare it to you know, when whenever a
Speaker 3: bird hits the nose of an airplane, the amount of
Speaker 3: damage that that does, it just doesn't equate, like the
Speaker 3: math doesn't math on that, you know. So what is
Speaker 3: your opinion as far as the airplane. Was there ever
Speaker 3: an airplane that hit the toy the twin towers or not?
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good question because it seems it certainly
Speaker 4: seems that there were four airplane aircraft involved. What these
Speaker 4: aircraft are, however, is the big question. Whether they were
Speaker 4: as you say, somehow completely artificial or were they aircraft
Speaker 4: that were being flown by drone technology. This is what
Speaker 4: I think is what happened, because we see we have
Speaker 4: we have video evidence of planes hitting the twin towers.
Speaker 4: But what we we don't have is is a lot
Speaker 4: of evidence that's been presented to us to show us
Speaker 4: which aircraft these these these the planes were from. I mean,
Speaker 4: for example, the jet engine parts, landing gear struts found
Speaker 4: on the street, a jet engine found on the street.
Speaker 4: The question is what what what? What would have opened
Speaker 4: up the whole that allowed the plane to enter the building?
Speaker 4: As you said, and and this is this is one
Speaker 4: of my specialties, is that if you look at the
Speaker 4: South Tower being hit by a plane, as soon as
Speaker 4: it hits, there's a big explosion of what appears to
Speaker 4: be a explosive coming out the rear end of the
Speaker 4: building that the plane is coming into. And then then
Speaker 4: it turns into a cloud of looks like propane or
Speaker 4: kerosene burning. But if you look at the at the
Speaker 4: far side of the building, the north, the north side
Speaker 4: of the tower, you see some some some things coming
Speaker 4: up very very quickly. And the most telling anthing coming
Speaker 4: out is a white hot a white hot fragment of
Speaker 4: something flying very fast out ahead of everything else, leaving
Speaker 4: behind a tail, a smoke tail of dark very dark oxides,
Speaker 4: dark black blue oxides. That's that's evidence of a of
Speaker 4: a of your depleted, your anim warhead. So what I
Speaker 4: think happens, what the evidence seems to suggest is that
Speaker 4: drone aircraft. They weren't being flown by pilots, so drone
Speaker 4: aircraft were flown into the aircraft into the buildings, and
Speaker 4: just before the plane struck, they released a missile that
Speaker 4: was on the under side of the plane and it
Speaker 4: struck the tower and opened up a hole in the
Speaker 4: in the in the steel frame, allowing the passenger jet
Speaker 4: aircraft fuselage to enter the building as it did.
Speaker 3: Wow, I have not heard that theory that that could
Speaker 3: be possible, right.
Speaker 6: So, but that would go off the assumption this was
Speaker 6: not in fact the jetliners that the mainstream narrative told us,
Speaker 6: right right, They're not the seven forty sevens or I
Speaker 6: forget the nomenclature of the of the craft. But essentially
Speaker 6: we are suggesting that this was a flying object that
Speaker 6: was built to look like this plane but actually was
Speaker 6: just fixed with some other apertures for a different purpose. Correct.
Speaker 4: Right now, if you look at what's the news these
Speaker 4: days about all the drones going off in Europe, Asia, everywhere,
Speaker 4: there's drone technology being used. These railis are flying drones
Speaker 4: over the guys that strip and killing people left and right.
Speaker 4: Drone technology has come into it's into its own now,
Speaker 4: but it's been around for a long time. I remember
Speaker 4: I was a little kid. I remember seeing kids flying drones,
Speaker 4: you know, in the little football field.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, but weaponized drones, a drone that's weaponized like these,
Speaker 4: these these planes. Now. In my book, so nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: I second chapter is about the planes of nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: And I do a lot of search into the who's
Speaker 4: involved in making drones into into weaponized, weaponized you know,
Speaker 4: attack vehicles, and who's involved in converting planes like seven
Speaker 4: sixty seven planes into from tankers into cargo planes, et cetera,
Speaker 4: et cetera. And I think that what we have with
Speaker 4: the nine to eleven is we have the use of
Speaker 4: drune technology that was no longer in its infancy being
Speaker 4: used to carry out a giant terrace attack. Now the
Speaker 4: planes are in fact a distraction because the the the
Speaker 4: the real purpose of the World Trade Center attack was
Speaker 4: to destroy the World Trade Center, to steal the riches
Speaker 4: that were underground in the in the in the cellars
Speaker 4: beneath this, and to start the war on terror, and
Speaker 4: to create a giant insurance fraud known as Arson.
Speaker 6: So I've heard of the insurance fraud because the owner
Speaker 6: of the building to just put on terrorism insurance a
Speaker 6: few months prior July or something. Yeah, right, I heard
Speaker 6: that it was to screw up the world economy. And
Speaker 6: if you're gonna do that, why not hit the World
Speaker 6: Trade Center. It's a big bang. I get it. But
Speaker 6: this is the first time hearing about riches underneath. Can
Speaker 6: you expound upon that a little bit?
Speaker 4: Well, the World Trade Center, being the center of a
Speaker 4: lot of global trade, had a great deal of gold
Speaker 4: and bullion beneath the surface in the vaults of buildings four, five, six,
Speaker 4: and one and two headvaults too, but the main vaults
Speaker 4: were four, five and six. Okay, And that's another That's
Speaker 4: another aspect of nine to eleven that I've done a
Speaker 4: lot of work on, but I haven't seen other people
Speaker 4: talking about a lot. It's Building six, which was just
Speaker 4: next to South next to North Tower. When the South
Speaker 4: Tower was struck at nine oh three, there was a
Speaker 4: there was a simultaneous explosion that occurred and seemed to
Speaker 4: crater out the building six, which is a six story building,
Speaker 4: seven story building, and a reporter that went under underneath
Speaker 4: the ground underneath there with a video camera for the FEMA.
Speaker 4: He was an Argentinian journalist, or he's an Argentinian guy
Speaker 4: now because he's left the country. He looked inside the vault,
Speaker 4: found that the vault door was busted open, the gold
Speaker 4: vault door was busted open, and the vault was empty.
Speaker 4: It had been emptied.
Speaker 6: Was there any bullion in Building seven? Is that also
Speaker 6: why it fell? No?
Speaker 4: Seven? Seven didn't have a proper basement because seven was
Speaker 4: built over a power plant, so seven had a very
Speaker 4: strange architecture, and that there was nothing There was no
Speaker 4: first or second floor. Rather, there was a there was
Speaker 4: a steel steel steel construction that held up the rest
Speaker 4: of the building above it. But it did not have
Speaker 4: any any under under under undercroft, under basement at all.
Speaker 6: That is I've never you're right for I've never even
Speaker 6: heard heard of Building six that day. I've heard of
Speaker 6: the twin towers, Building seven in the Pentagon. Never knew
Speaker 6: that there was anything that happened at Building six on
Speaker 6: the morning of September eleventh. Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. Is that is that because these
Speaker 4: these stories are ignored by the mainstream media. The use
Speaker 4: of explosives, the the the gold, the gold that was
Speaker 4: being taken away in fact, one of the under the
Speaker 4: under the under building five, there were there were tunnels
Speaker 4: underneath these towers, and these tunnels connected to tunnels that
Speaker 4: led even to New Jersey and and and Brooklyn.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the thing is that there there was a convoy
Speaker 4: of trucks that were loaded with gold that was stopped,
Speaker 4: was stuck in one of these tunnels coming from Building five,
Speaker 4: I think it was, And it was stuck because they
Speaker 4: they they feared for their lives. They had to get
Speaker 4: out and they had to run for their lives, leaving
Speaker 4: behind the loot.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 4: The the fact that this was a huge gold heist
Speaker 4: is very important to understand the whole thing.
Speaker 3: So without do you think that they would have carried
Speaker 3: out this terrorist mission if it weren't for the gold
Speaker 3: or the other implications? Was it still enough to even
Speaker 3: carry it out?
Speaker 4: Well, it was a very complex plot. It was a
Speaker 4: very complex UH crime with many layers, and the the
Speaker 4: the gold theft was important part. But another another aspect
Speaker 4: was that there was evidence in these vaults for criminal
Speaker 4: for criminal crime, for crime criminal trials that were going
Speaker 4: to be held in the near future, and and there
Speaker 4: was maturation of some do of some bonds that that
Speaker 4: George Herbert Walker Bush had had instituted to take down
Speaker 4: the Soviet Union, to take down the ruble. And these
Speaker 4: vaults became became payable the next day, and and and
Speaker 4: these this criminal evidence and these paper paper vaults. They
Speaker 4: were so you had you had the gold vault, and
Speaker 4: you had evidence faults. You had two vaults under Building six,
Speaker 4: and they had to destroy the evidence as well. So
Speaker 4: nine to eleven was also destroying evidence that would have
Speaker 4: that would have implicated high up people. And it was
Speaker 4: it was to steal the it was to steal the gold,
Speaker 4: and it was it was an insurance insurance scam as well,
Speaker 4: you know, to to collect huge amount of money and
Speaker 4: then to and then it was finally to rewrite the
Speaker 4: history of the of the new century to be one
Speaker 4: in which we would be fighting terrorism.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: All right, So is it of your understanding that this
Speaker 3: might have been uh military industrial complex that was carrying
Speaker 3: this out because ultimately they would benefit the most from,
Speaker 3: you know, just NonStop war all the time, or is
Speaker 3: it another country. I've always kind of come from it
Speaker 3: from the idea that the these kind of things don't
Speaker 3: happen unless we allow them to happen. Maybe that's just
Speaker 3: because I'm not gonna sit here and say I'm all
Speaker 3: super patriotic or anything, but I just believe that we're
Speaker 3: the most badass country that there is, and I can't
Speaker 3: imagine that you know that this kind of behavior would
Speaker 3: just be sneaking under our nose like they allegedly say
Speaker 3: that it that it did.
Speaker 2: So do you think that it was carried out by us?
Speaker 3: Or was there certain infiltrators within our government that allowed
Speaker 3: other perpetrators to be able to also infiltrate?
Speaker 2: And in the same time, what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2: Who carried this out?
Speaker 4: Well, you approach a subject like this, a crime of arson,
Speaker 4: a suspicious arsen you you approach it with, you know,
Speaker 4: a qui bono attitude. Who benefited from the crime?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 4: And And what we have here with with Larry Verry Silverstein,
Speaker 4: the owner of the building, is that he was the
Speaker 4: chief beneficiary who had the suspicious insurance clause that protected
Speaker 4: him from terrorism. And he is a very highly placed
Speaker 4: high official in the Israeli fundraising operation known as Jewish Appeal,
Speaker 4: which is an umbrella umbrella group that collects money all
Speaker 4: across the United States for Israel.
Speaker 6: Are they a part of the.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're above a pack. They're the ones who collect
Speaker 4: all the money. They collect all the money. And he
Speaker 4: was he was the national chairman of the of the
Speaker 4: Jewish Federation. And he is suspect number one in any
Speaker 4: in any criminal analysis, he would be the first person
Speaker 4: you would arrest, and you would charge, and you would
Speaker 4: you would investigate.
Speaker 6: Well, like you said, he is the one that immediately
Speaker 6: benefited from the buildings falling, right, Like he didn't benefit
Speaker 6: from the wars, but he definitely benefited from the insurance
Speaker 6: claim that day. So I'm with you one hundred percent right.
Speaker 4: And this was a very advanced crime. It involved a
Speaker 4: lot of people involved, people that were For example, there
Speaker 4: was there was one man who constantly predicted that nine
Speaker 4: to eleven would happen. His name was Benjamin Netanyahu. He's
Speaker 4: now the president Prime Minister of Israel. We may have
Speaker 4: heard of him time and time again. He would he
Speaker 4: would tell the US Congress or people who would listen
Speaker 4: that the next time they're gonna do it, they're gonn
Speaker 4: put a nuclear bomb in the basement World Trade Center
Speaker 4: to bring both down. Things like that, And he and
Speaker 4: his best friend aren't On. Milkon Hollywood producer Israeli. He
Speaker 4: made movies. Milkon did made movies predicting or depicting an
Speaker 4: aerial attack on the World Trade Center by passenger planes.
Speaker 4: He made one in nineteen seventy nine called The Medusa
Speaker 4: Touch with Richard Burton, and he made a TV show
Speaker 4: called The Lone Gunmen which aired six months six months
Speaker 4: before nine to eleven, which which showed an aerial attack
Speaker 4: on the World Tride Center industrial complex people. He said,
Speaker 4: m so, what we have We have people the people
Speaker 4: who predicted it and people who depicted it, and the
Speaker 4: immediately ignored it, all leading to indications that it was
Speaker 4: carried out by foreign power with agents within the United
Speaker 4: States government. For example, the mainstream media didn't ask any
Speaker 4: questions about it, didn't didn't do any investigation. Investigator journalism
Speaker 4: had been cut to cut down to nothing in the
Speaker 4: New York Times before nine to eleven, so they didn't
Speaker 4: have the people to do the kind of investigation, and
Speaker 4: they discouraged it, and people like Fox News attacked me.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 4: They promoted only the official version, and anybody who didn't
Speaker 4: believe the official version was nuts. You see is that
Speaker 4: you have the official version being supported by the mainstream media,
Speaker 4: and the questions being asked were being asked only on
Speaker 4: the Internet by a few people who who bother to,
Speaker 4: you know, investigate a little further.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some people just like to believe whatever is on
Speaker 3: the news. I feel like that time is abruptly coming
Speaker 3: to an end here as we move forward in the future.
Speaker 3: Thank God, it's happening because of God, because of alternative
Speaker 3: outlets and social media and people doing their own investigative
Speaker 3: journalism and just really trying to get to the bottom
Speaker 3: of it. And you know, it's so crazy that back
Speaker 3: whenever COVID was going around, they said it's dangerous to
Speaker 3: do your own research. That's how you know that they're
Speaker 3: worried whenever they're literally telling like they're almost like treating
Speaker 3: you like you're a baby, you know, like, don't do that.
Speaker 3: Like we got professionals who know how to look into
Speaker 3: certain things and know how to understand certain things. Whenever
Speaker 3: you do your own research, Oh, then you become a
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 2: You don't want that to happen.
Speaker 6: And, like you said, the investigative side of this pretty
Speaker 6: much stopped. And everybody knew that day because believe it
Speaker 6: or not. We found one of their passports on the
Speaker 6: sidewalk outside of the building, and we know for sure
Speaker 6: that CI asked at Tim Osmond. I'm sorry, my bad.
Speaker 6: Osama bin Laden, same guy was clearly the one and
Speaker 6: responsible for this whole shabam. So like, do you back
Speaker 6: to Jonathan's question, do you think that that even had
Speaker 6: anything to do with it? Do you think Osama was
Speaker 6: even connected or do you think he was just the
Speaker 6: patsy that ran with the story.
Speaker 4: Well, Osama is an interesting, interesting person to look at.
Speaker 4: In my little book called The War ontarror of the
Speaker 4: Plot to Rule the Middle East, I explained that some
Speaker 4: Bin Laden and al Qaida were created by Israel and
Speaker 4: military intelligence. If you know Charlie Charlie's Warlie, Charlie Wilson's War.
Speaker 4: Charlie Wilson writes about this in his movie as well,
Speaker 4: about how he wanted get He wanted to get funding
Speaker 4: for the anti Soviet forces in Afghanistan, and so they
Speaker 4: recruited a lot of AIRB fundamentalists and they were and
Speaker 4: these and these people were trained in Pakistan by his
Speaker 4: really intelligence, by Israeli military intelligence, which was at that
Speaker 4: time headed by a hood omerit know, a hood Barack,
Speaker 4: Ahood Barack, the former prime minister. And they were training
Speaker 4: Osam bin Laden and the Arabs and also the Taliban,
Speaker 4: the people who became Taliban. The difference between the Taliban
Speaker 4: and Gada is al Qaida is Arabs speaking Arabic and
Speaker 4: Taliban is Afghan speaking Pashtun yep. So, so these two
Speaker 4: don't work really close together, so you have to cultivate
Speaker 4: both of them together.
Speaker 6: And so they formed up the mujah Haden, the Freedom
Speaker 6: Fighter Legion.
Speaker 7: And all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So so so that when nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 4: Ahood was in London at BBC ready to explain his
Speaker 4: understanding what which was transpired, and he of course blamed
Speaker 4: Osam Bin Laden. And how would he know about Osam
Speaker 4: Bin Laden, And you know because he he had trained
Speaker 4: Osam Bin Laden, Osam Bin Laden. And it's the same
Speaker 4: thing you're seeing now in in in Syria. For example,
Speaker 4: the group that's taken over Syria hg HTS was formerly
Speaker 4: was formerly al Qaeda and formerly al Musa Front and
Speaker 4: was is funded and trained by Israel. And and now
Speaker 4: now we're now that they've taken over the country where
Speaker 4: you know, the US is trying to close up him
Speaker 4: a little bit. But but these were the people that
Speaker 4: that we've been fighting, that the United States has been
Speaker 4: fighting ice little Isis Musra, all these these these gangs.
Speaker 4: But now, but that's that's the thing is that they have.
Speaker 4: That's why it's called false flight terror. Is that you
Speaker 4: false flight terror attack like nine to eleven. One entity
Speaker 4: carries out the the the the terrorism, but they do
Speaker 4: it to blame it, blame it on another entity, in
Speaker 4: this case al Qaida, and to take the take the
Speaker 4: country into war against their enemy or the party they
Speaker 4: want to wage war against, which is was al Kaida.
Speaker 6: Okay, So it was more about putting military assets in
Speaker 6: that region of the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you look at if you look
Speaker 4: at for example, there's another character here, Donald Trump. There
Speaker 4: were a lot of people, there were a lot of
Speaker 4: people on day one, as I said, who talked about
Speaker 4: explosions in the World Trade Center, and Donald Trump was
Speaker 4: one of them. He said very clearly that it looked
Speaker 4: like that there were explosives, explosives that went off in
Speaker 4: the building time to go off simultaneously with the impact
Speaker 4: of the planes. And somebody got him obviously, and told
Speaker 4: them to stop talking about that, the same way they
Speaker 4: did to the BBC reporter and to everybody, even even
Speaker 4: firefighters from New York were told to shut up and
Speaker 4: stopped talking about them.
Speaker 6: I'm glad you brought up the firefighters, because man, a
Speaker 6: picture's worth a thousand words, and I get that, but
Speaker 6: when you have first hand accounts of people, and keep
Speaker 6: in mind, firefighters aren't just the guys they're just putting
Speaker 6: out the little how these guys go through insane amounts
Speaker 6: of training and they know the smell of cordite when
Speaker 6: they smell it, they know the smell of ozone. This
Speaker 6: is what they do for a profession So gentlemen that
Speaker 6: do this every day, all day professionally say that they
Speaker 6: smell obvious residue of explosives being used. They're not just
Speaker 6: saying things. But somehow that just got pushed by the wayside.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, what happened was that there were there were
Speaker 4: explosions that went off in the basement early on. Like
Speaker 4: William Rodriguez was the janitor and building North Tower. He
Speaker 4: was in sub basement number two, I think, second level
Speaker 4: down and he experienced an explosion going off in the
Speaker 4: basement before just before the plane hit. Something at fifteen
Speaker 4: twenty seconds before the plane hit.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 4: A guy came running up to him, one of the vendors,
Speaker 4: and his skin was hanging off his arms, and he
Speaker 4: said it was an Honduran guy. I think he said
Speaker 4: the elevators, the elevators, and meaning that he had answered
Speaker 4: explosion at the elevators.
Speaker 6: And so.
Speaker 4: I asked the guys who did demolition, why would they
Speaker 4: why would they, you know, do do abombina in the basement.
Speaker 4: He said, that's where you start. The first explosions goes
Speaker 4: off in the basement in order to weaken some structure
Speaker 4: and to start to bring the tower down.
Speaker 6: Elevator shafts are very good for that as well, because
Speaker 6: those are extra supported basically tubes that run up the
Speaker 6: entire length of the buildings. So if you could take
Speaker 6: those out, you pretty much just took out the one
Speaker 6: of these spines, if you will, of the overall structure.
Speaker 6: So that makes a lot of sense, right, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, the fundamental question nine to eleven is to be answered,
Speaker 4: is was it a collapse it brought down the towers
Speaker 4: or was it explosions? This has to be answered, you know,
Speaker 4: and it should have been answered in the first couple
Speaker 4: of days by the US Blue Ribbon investigation that was
Speaker 4: not done. But what we see is that if it
Speaker 4: had been if it had been a collapse, a collapse
Speaker 4: would have fallen, but would have left those those those
Speaker 4: stems that you talked about the elevators in the forty
Speaker 4: the forty seven box columns in the core section of
Speaker 4: the building. The towers were built with a rectangular core
Speaker 4: section going from north to south or east to west,
Speaker 4: and around that was around that was a square, a
Speaker 4: larger square that had that was connected to the to
Speaker 4: the core columns with trusses like two hundred and twenty trusses,
Speaker 4: and these trusses held up a floor and provided a
Speaker 4: floor space without without obstructions of columns load bearing columns.
Speaker 4: So you had an acre of an acre on each floor,
Speaker 4: you had an acre of of office space with no
Speaker 4: interruption of columns. It was it was it was seen
Speaker 4: as a good solution to the to the problem in
Speaker 4: those days. Wow.
Speaker 6: But they were supported off of the actual rectangular shafts
Speaker 6: in the middle you're saying. So it wasn't built off
Speaker 6: as the port from the outside. It was built from
Speaker 6: the inside of that's right, like the load bearing was right.
Speaker 4: Percent of the load bearing was done by the internal
Speaker 4: internal core column.
Speaker 6: Now, looking architecturally, that is pretty pretty impressive. I mean,
Speaker 6: especially for the day and age that those towers are built,
Speaker 6: that they were doing it that's successfully, Like that is
Speaker 6: pretty impressive. However, for the sense of taking the building down,
Speaker 6: I mean, my god, but.
Speaker 4: The but the the collapse scenario, let's just look at
Speaker 4: it as basic says that fires, fires were burning on
Speaker 4: the floors, and these fires heated up the steel trusses
Speaker 4: underneath the underneath the floor above them right to such
Speaker 4: a point, to such a point that they failed and
Speaker 4: and simultaneously all failed at the same time and failed
Speaker 4: all the way down. Now, this is absurd, This is
Speaker 4: just totally sorry. First of all, that would mean that
Speaker 4: you would have a fire of equal temperature occurring at
Speaker 4: all two and twenty trusses on the north south east
Speaker 4: west side of the building. He needed to point that
Speaker 4: they would. I mean, it's just it's it's absurd, it's so.
Speaker 4: And now if this were the case that the trustes
Speaker 4: gave way on these long spans, then then that then
Speaker 4: that that pulling down of the of the steel in
Speaker 4: the in the frame, would have pulled the outside walls in,
Speaker 4: would have pulled the inside inside walls in towards the
Speaker 4: center of the of the towards the towards the strong center.
Speaker 4: That's not what we see. What we see rather is
Speaker 4: we see huge pieces of steel being thrown with great
Speaker 4: speed latterly away from the building. And that's why that's
Speaker 4: why buildings went into the demolition. One and two looks
Speaker 4: so different from building Building seven. Building seven looks more
Speaker 4: like a classical demolition because it was poorly built. It
Speaker 4: was a weekly built structure. Like I said, it had
Speaker 4: some some compromises in its destruct and construction. But one
Speaker 4: and two were North and South tower were built very strongly.
Speaker 4: They were built in the late sixties early seventies. They
Speaker 4: were They were built with such redundancy that they would
Speaker 4: carry at least five times the weight that they were
Speaker 4: already bearing. In addition, they were capable of they were
Speaker 4: very strong, and that's why that's why the explosions, that's
Speaker 4: why the demolitions looked so explosive because they had to be,
Speaker 4: because they had they had to cut those forty seven
Speaker 4: box columns every twenty feet or so in order for
Speaker 4: the building to come down. And and that's my regret
Speaker 4: is that on the day my first my first article
Speaker 4: about nine eleven I wrote when I got back to
Speaker 4: Chicago was about evidence, eyewitness evidence explosions at the World
Speaker 4: Trade Center. It was from People People magazine for example.
Speaker 4: People talked about it. Firefighters and and people who worked
Speaker 4: in the tower. They talked about seeing all these explosions.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: But what what I ended the article with was the question,
Speaker 4: but what would explain is the cutting of the of
Speaker 4: the of the columns, of the of the core columns,
Speaker 4: the box colmns. These box columns at the base were
Speaker 4: about fifty inches by fifty inches, and the and the steel,
Speaker 4: the steel walls were more than five aches thick. At
Speaker 4: the very base, they were practically pure steel with no space.
Speaker 4: But as they went up higher and hire, they tapered
Speaker 4: and got thinner and and and they became you know,
Speaker 4: so they were like a quarter inch at the very
Speaker 4: top the wall, the wall, the wall thickness.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But but in order for the to bring the towers down,
Speaker 4: they were so strongly built, they had to blow the
Speaker 4: hell out of them. And that's what you see, that's
Speaker 4: what we see in the photographs. The photographs came from
Speaker 4: the New York Police Department months later from taking from
Speaker 4: a helicopter. But they show the energy, the huge amount
Speaker 4: of energy that occurred when they blew up those towers.
Speaker 4: They they they were super super powerful explosions. And you
Speaker 4: raised the question about thermite before I was.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 4: I was key involved in that discovery because there was
Speaker 4: an analysis of the dust from the World Trades and
Speaker 4: that was done by the US US government I think
Speaker 4: it was. Yeah, they were, and they found they produced
Speaker 4: a little paper, a little booklet about one hundred pages
Speaker 4: of the hundred pages long, and in this book that
Speaker 4: they had photographs of these little round balls, little balls
Speaker 4: of steel that were found in the dust. And this
Speaker 4: is a characteristic of the dust that is found in
Speaker 4: all the samples that were taken. And what this is
Speaker 4: is melted steel. And the only way that it could
Speaker 4: become melted steel is if it were exposed to temperatures
Speaker 4: hotter than the boiling point of steel, so that the
Speaker 4: steel actually evaporates or or liquefies and then and then
Speaker 4: condenses into itself and becomes a little ball. They also
Speaker 4: had a droplet of molybdenum, which has a super high
Speaker 4: temperature and and this is this is these are very small,
Speaker 4: their microspheres, they're very very small, which means that they
Speaker 4: were created by a reaction of steel of iron oxide
Speaker 4: and aluminum called thermatic thermatic reaction. And this was done
Speaker 4: using a form of thermite. At least one form of
Speaker 4: thermite we know was used was a nano thermite. The
Speaker 4: nano thermite is very very small, microscopic, almost composition of
Speaker 4: the same aluminum, aluminum, aluminum and iron oxide. And when
Speaker 4: this reaction occurs, it creates extremely hot temperature and liquid
Speaker 4: liquid iron. That's what produced these these balls. And the
Speaker 4: molidinium was was probably the result of another thermatic reaction
Speaker 4: using molidinum. Because thermatic reactions can you use different oxides.
Speaker 4: It doesn't it to be it doesn't to be iron oxide,
Speaker 4: be molibdinum, other sorts of stuff.
Speaker 6: Right, there's other types of like ferrous and non ferrous
Speaker 6: materials that can be used to make different types of thermite,
Speaker 6: for sure.
Speaker 4: But what this means is that this is this is
Speaker 4: again another another kind of technology that is was cutting
Speaker 4: edge at the time. People didn't know about it very much,
Speaker 4: It wasn't written about very much. Nano thermite, nano nanothermatics.
Speaker 4: Now now it's it's it's a very common thing, and
Speaker 4: the government military uses a lot for detonations and things
Speaker 4: like that because it's extremely powerful and in a very
Speaker 4: small amount of the material, you can create a huge explosion.
Speaker 6: To your point about the steel being weakened and all
Speaker 6: of that, that's that's a big talking point we've heard
Speaker 6: a million times, right, like jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams.
Speaker 6: And then you'll have these guys in blacksmithing shots put
Speaker 6: up these tiktoks and youtubes of all right, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: show you just this red hot iron, I'm a movie
Speaker 6: with my pinky and just bend it over, and they
Speaker 6: think that that's a thing. It's like, okay, hold on, Yes,
Speaker 6: heat can weaken steel over an extended period of time,
Speaker 6: but jet fuel is not slow burning by any means.
Speaker 6: It's it's kind of it takes off and it gets hot,
Speaker 6: it goes up in temperature, but then it's gone pretty
Speaker 6: quick for the steel beams to melt to that level
Speaker 6: or to be weakened to that level over such a
Speaker 6: period of time. There's no way they didn't have enough
Speaker 6: jet fuel in the plane to produce a burn long
Speaker 6: enough to weaken the seal beams to that level, and
Speaker 6: that certainly wouldn't have produced these types of spherical iron
Speaker 6: particles that you're talking about that you would typically see
Speaker 6: as like a I don't know, let's say, maybe some
Speaker 6: flack from a welding or or like you said, a
Speaker 6: thermic or I'm say, exchange a thermatic explosion. Thank you.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to find the word. I was gonna say
Speaker 6: change or something, but yeah, explosion was the word. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 6: one hundred percent, because even if you're just busting off iron,
Speaker 6: it's gonna come off in shards. It's not going to
Speaker 6: come off in a perfect sphere like that unless it
Speaker 6: was chemically or physically done in that way. So I'm
Speaker 6: with you one hundred percent right now.
Speaker 4: The thing is also is that in order for the buildings,
Speaker 4: the buildings both fell at about freefall speed. One fell
Speaker 4: at a little bit more nine seconds, the one fell
Speaker 4: about eleven seconds, and the free falling object would have
Speaker 4: fallen in about ten seconds.
Speaker 6: And we could clock that because they had people jumped
Speaker 6: to their death right before that. So oddly enough, day
Speaker 6: age sun fixture whatever, we actually that day had real
Speaker 6: time examples of what that would have looked like if
Speaker 6: we could clock, you're a one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 3: Wait a second, one building fell at nine seconds and
Speaker 3: the other one fell at eleven seconds.
Speaker 4: Right, and then that's about free fall. That's ridiculous free
Speaker 4: fall speed. Now, as we were talking about before, you
Speaker 4: have two hundred and twenty eight trusses on each floor,
Speaker 4: and these things were really strong, and then you had
Speaker 4: four inches of lightweight concrete poured into pans that were
Speaker 4: on top of the trusses for each floor, and all
Speaker 4: of us polarized, All this material polarized, and all this
Speaker 4: material fell down in a free fall speed simultaneously and
Speaker 4: in synchronicity with it with so it's not possible that
Speaker 4: you have you have fires burning on all floors because
Speaker 4: both floors had both towers had cold structure from eighty
Speaker 4: second floor down. The South tower was eighty second floor
Speaker 4: down and the North tower was about ninety four nine
Speaker 4: the up down that was cold structure. That cold structure
Speaker 4: would have stopped would have provided resistance to the to
Speaker 4: the falling mass above it, and the South tower as
Speaker 4: it began to fall, it tilted the top thirty floors
Speaker 4: tilted about twenty three degrees towards the street. Now this
Speaker 4: isn'ty problematic because that removes the sledgehammer that was pounding.
Speaker 4: Would have been the pounding mechanism to drive down on
Speaker 4: the cold structure beneath it. But this, this thirty story
Speaker 4: leaning piece of mind, now just a few moments ago,
Speaker 4: Oh sorry about that. Go ahead to the top of
Speaker 4: the top of the South Tower. Rather than falling to
Speaker 4: the street or continuing to fall, as Newton's law would
Speaker 4: have it continue to swing in the same angle it
Speaker 4: was falling, it disintegrated in mid air. And so what
Speaker 4: happened is for the guys who were running the running
Speaker 4: the operation, they saw they were losing control of the
Speaker 4: tip top of the tower. It began to fall. They
Speaker 4: had to initiate the destruction at the top and they
Speaker 4: blew the top as it tilted away, which which in
Speaker 4: effect removed removed that sledgehammer effect on the tower below.
Speaker 4: So nothing was driving the South Tower down into the
Speaker 4: cold structure, but it was blown up anyway. You see
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I mean, do you even further that when
Speaker 6: you see big buildings that burned down, the things that
Speaker 6: are typically left up are chimney stacks on like those
Speaker 6: older buildings, or elevator shafts on those types of buildings,
Speaker 6: and that even if the rest of the building falls
Speaker 6: down around it, there will at least be these things
Speaker 6: sticking up. You mentioned this earlier. You can see the
Speaker 6: whole building falls. It takes as weird tilt and then
Speaker 6: descentegratees in the air that doesn't even make practical sense
Speaker 6: out loud.
Speaker 4: No, and and the and these these these these core columns,
Speaker 4: these forty seven core box columns would have been remained standing,
Speaker 4: as you said, and in one case they were. There
Speaker 4: was there was one section of one of the towers
Speaker 4: that was still standing when the wrist fell down around
Speaker 4: it and they had to do another explosion beneath it
Speaker 4: pull that one down.
Speaker 6: Oh, I thought that was that stairwell that they had
Speaker 6: those people still alive and then they found them. I
Speaker 6: thought that was on that column.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the stairwells were part of the core column. Yep,
Speaker 4: they were at the anger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3: I actually have if I have a couple of videos
Speaker 3: that I really wanted to play, but the first one
Speaker 3: that I wanted to play just for the good cult
Speaker 3: members out there.
Speaker 2: That's what we call our listeners.
Speaker 3: It is the video that you referred to from Donald
Speaker 3: Trump back in two thousand and one and what his
Speaker 3: opinion was on the structural you know, uh, what's the word.
Speaker 3: Basically the structural integrity of these buildings. They shouldn't have
Speaker 3: gone down the way they did. This is and this
Speaker 3: is coming from like a real estate.
Speaker 6: New York right. Trump knows construction in Manhattan, bro, That's
Speaker 6: where he's made his bread and butter. It's not like
Speaker 6: he's an architect major by any means, but he knows
Speaker 6: a thing or two about a thing or two.
Speaker 7: Sure.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he's the one paying for all the materials.
Speaker 3: He knows what's strong and what costs the most. And
Speaker 3: so yeah, so this is a three minute long video.
Speaker 3: I just I feel like it's you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's a good video to play for this one.
Speaker 2: So let's see.
Speaker 8: Now, just a few moments ago, Donald Trump passed through here,
Speaker 8: so we had a minute to talk with him.
Speaker 6: Let's roll that tape.
Speaker 7: You can see what he had to say. Well, I've
Speaker 7: never seen anything like it.
Speaker 5: I've seen two huge, one hundred and ten story buildings
Speaker 5: that are reduced to rubble, thousands and thousands of lives.
Speaker 5: I just got to see something that I've never seen before.
Speaker 5: I have hundreds of men inside working right now, and
Speaker 5: we're bringing down another one hundred and twenty five in
Speaker 5: a little while.
Speaker 7: And they've never done work like this before.
Speaker 5: And they're hardworking people, but they've never seen anything like it,
Speaker 5: and they've never they've never done work like this before.
Speaker 7: It's terrible.
Speaker 8: Tell me what it's like at ground zero. Tell me
Speaker 8: about the workers that you saw and what they're doing there.
Speaker 5: Well, not only is it devastation, but it's very dangerous
Speaker 5: because every few minutes, a whistle would go off and
Speaker 5: everybody would just run because you have all the buildings
Speaker 5: around it, which you are in sech a weakened state
Speaker 5: that people just don't know, and so they just have
Speaker 5: to take off. And then they come back and they're
Speaker 5: working under fifty story buildings that you don't know if
Speaker 5: if they're going to fall down. So it's a terrible
Speaker 5: thing for the workers, and it's a terrible thing for
Speaker 5: the world.
Speaker 8: Really, how have you spoken to any of your men.
Speaker 8: Do you know how they're reacting to this, because emotionally
Speaker 8: this must be so incredibly difficult.
Speaker 5: Well, there are a lot of them, but they've never
Speaker 5: seen bodies like this, I mean the bodies all over.
Speaker 5: I mean, the great thing is when they find somebody
Speaker 5: that's alive, like the five firemen that they just found
Speaker 5: a little while ago. So that's the great thing, and
Speaker 5: that's what they're all striving for. But generally speaking, that's
Speaker 5: not what the case. That's not the case. So they
Speaker 5: are working very, very hard, but it's a very depressing
Speaker 5: situation for these folks.
Speaker 8: As you walked around and as you saw the piles
Speaker 8: of rubble, there are thousands of families out there who
Speaker 8: are hoping that someone might be in a pocket somewhere,
Speaker 8: still alive, still breathing, waiting to be dug up. As
Speaker 8: you assessed that damage from your perspective, do you believe
Speaker 8: that's possible?
Speaker 7: Well, I would certainly not want to be the one
Speaker 7: to say it's not possible.
Speaker 5: Certainly, it's a tough situation, but you can't give up
Speaker 5: hope because there's always hope. I mean, the five men,
Speaker 5: I'm sure their families thought that they probably were gone,
Speaker 5: and now they walk in the door. A couple of
Speaker 5: them walked away after they were dug out, so there
Speaker 5: probably are some more people in there, and therefore you
Speaker 5: can't give up hope.
Speaker 8: You've had an impact on the skyline of New York.
Speaker 7: What is it like as you see it.
Speaker 5: Now, It's like a whole different skyline. It's like a
Speaker 5: whole different city and world. I cannot believe the site
Speaker 5: of Lower Manhattan without the World Trade Center, and therefore
Speaker 5: we have to rebuild, not necessarily in that form, but
Speaker 5: we have to rebuild at least as good and maybe better.
Speaker 8: Just finally, can you tell me emotionally as you walked around.
Speaker 8: We've heard some of the stories from the firemen. They're
Speaker 8: so exhausted and mentally and physically. What was it like
Speaker 8: for you personally to go in and.
Speaker 6: See all of what you saw?
Speaker 7: Well, it was amazing to see it. It was a
Speaker 7: very depressing scene.
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what, you really can take part
Speaker 5: these firemen and policemen and the construction workers equally.
Speaker 7: The courage they have is unbelievable.
Speaker 5: I mean they're working, digging out and lifting up steel,
Speaker 5: and above them you have fifty five story buildings that
Speaker 5: are very possibly going to be pouring down on them
Speaker 5: any minute, and they're working like nothing's wrong. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's they're amazing.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's not the video I thought that was gonna play.
Speaker 3: I'll try and find it. But there is videos out
Speaker 3: there of Trump saying like none of this is possible
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 6: Right, I'll say, dude, his speech pattern has not changed.
Speaker 2: He's remained the same ny years.
Speaker 3: He's insane, dude, It's insane, right right. So anyway, all right,
Speaker 3: So I guess you know where we're at right now.
Speaker 3: We've talked about nine to eleven almost ad nauseum on
Speaker 3: this show in episodes past, and I think that we're
Speaker 3: kind of getting at least I hope that we're kind
Speaker 3: of getting at least the majority of the general public,
Speaker 3: at least the listeners of this show that like understand
Speaker 3: that look like nine to eleven is not what they
Speaker 3: said it was. It wasn't carried out by for Islamic terrorists,
Speaker 3: you know, and and just it never really made a
Speaker 3: whole lot of sense at the time anyway.
Speaker 2: And so I guess.
Speaker 3: When we're looking at it, we see that it was
Speaker 3: a it was it was a setup like it, but
Speaker 3: it seems like so many people had to be involved,
Speaker 3: and so many people had to gain from this situation.
Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about it, how the insurance the
Speaker 3: guy that took out the insurance policy on terroristic attacks
Speaker 3: just a few months before nine to eleven happened. You
Speaker 3: talked about how there was gold down in the vault
Speaker 3: vaults below the towers itself, and who else had something
Speaker 3: to gain?
Speaker 6: I wonder why, just kind of god, who gained from
Speaker 6: that one?
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, but you had mentioned Benjamin Netton Yahoo,
Speaker 3: what exactly did he have to gain from this situation
Speaker 3: if he, if he had a role in it.
Speaker 4: That's a good question. And now you know, like I
Speaker 4: pointed out that he repeatedly from the late seventies on
Speaker 4: talked about the about the possibility of the World Trade
Speaker 4: Center being taken down before it was hit the first
Speaker 4: time in nineteen ninety three I think it was, and
Speaker 4: then later, but he repeated several times he like it was,
Speaker 4: it's going to happen. It's going to happen unless unless
Speaker 4: the West takes on the war, on takes on on
Speaker 4: on the terrorist gangs in the Middle East, unless unless
Speaker 4: the world Western world basically comes to Israel's defense as
Speaker 4: it is now doing, and fights the war for Israel.
Speaker 4: And destroys all these bad, bad actors in the Middle East.
Speaker 4: There the West is going to be affected by it
Speaker 4: in a bad way. And now this has been his
Speaker 4: argument all along, and it's the same thing is repeating
Speaker 4: now that the West has to come to the aid
Speaker 4: of Israel. That these bad, bad guys in Middle East
Speaker 4: are not after just Israel. They're after Israel and the
Speaker 4: entire West, and that's why they have to we have
Speaker 4: to fight them. And and so he asked, why would
Speaker 4: he be doing it? You know, he is he part
Speaker 4: of the heist or what well, he's part of the
Speaker 4: operation to basically create a greater Israel. It's this liquid
Speaker 4: party which he's the head of, has an ideology that
Speaker 4: it wants to reinstate the biblical dimensions of Israel as
Speaker 4: they as God promised to them, the Jewish people, and
Speaker 4: it basically is from the from the Nile River to
Speaker 4: the Euphrates River in Iraq and all the landing between.
Speaker 4: So what we're seeing now is an active phase of
Speaker 4: this war being carried out. And and that's what he wants.
Speaker 4: And and the thing is that he and his were
Speaker 4: making partner, aren't on Milicon. Aren't Milicon is making these movies,
Speaker 4: is explained, are very we're very closely tied to the
Speaker 4: head of intelligence and Israeli military and defense, israel defensive establishment.
Speaker 4: And so in nineteen late nineteen seventies they began pushing
Speaker 4: this ideology of of a terror attack in America followed
Speaker 4: by a war on terror, and that's what they got
Speaker 4: the heist, the gold heist. Well, that's pretty important because
Speaker 4: that that that pays for the operation and the all
Speaker 4: the other aspects of it. It's like a Russian doll
Speaker 4: that there's a there's a crime within a crime within
Speaker 4: a crime. Yeah, and that's what we see at nine
Speaker 4: to eleven. It's it's a layer of crimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like that, you know, because it does
Speaker 3: seem like there was a little piece of pie for
Speaker 3: everybody to eat as a result of this like crazy action,
Speaker 3: right like and and I guess my question is, all right,
Speaker 3: so did did the United States not want to come
Speaker 3: to the aid of Israel in their war against the
Speaker 3: Middle East? And was it possible that as a result
Speaker 3: of US not wanting to come of their aid, the
Speaker 3: net and Yahoo or you know, somebody from that faction
Speaker 3: would then carry out an act to it possibly elicit
Speaker 3: us getting involved in the Middle East wars.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they've been doing this to the America, the
Speaker 4: United States for a long time. They bombed the US
Speaker 4: of Celebrity in nineteen sixty sixty seven. In June sixty seven,
Speaker 4: during the sixty War, they bombed the American ship, killed
Speaker 4: thirty four Americans, injured one hundred and seventy more. They
Speaker 4: did another operation in Egypt called the lavonn affair where
Speaker 4: they bombed the US Library and Consulate area and tried
Speaker 4: to make it look like the Egyptians did it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we really do need to do a whole episode
Speaker 6: on the Lavon affair. By the way, Jonathan, I've been
Speaker 6: thinking about that one.
Speaker 4: Lately, and so this has been part of their ideology
Speaker 4: all along. Now, you have to understand nineteen seventy seven,
Speaker 4: when men come began came to power, the League Could
Speaker 4: party came to power in Israel, which is the party
Speaker 4: of terror. These are the people who carried out the
Speaker 4: Deiusin massacre. That they carried out the numerous massacres across
Speaker 4: the Middle East, and terrorism is there is there motors
Speaker 4: Uparandei and so they they've been doing it for a
Speaker 4: long time, and they've been attacking Americans for a long
Speaker 4: time in order to get the United States to participate
Speaker 4: in their war. And it wasn't that it wasn't that
Speaker 4: the United States wasn't going to do it, but they
Speaker 4: the United States wasn't doing it enough, and so they
Speaker 4: what what what is it enough for them? Enough would
Speaker 4: be that the United States is basically enslaved to Israel.
Speaker 4: Now look at what what Joe Biden has done in
Speaker 4: the Middle East. He put he carelessly, recklessly put US
Speaker 4: aircraft carriers right off the coast of Yemen and and
Speaker 4: and the Middle off off of the Israel and Lebanon.
Speaker 4: I mean, people don't understand how how vulnerable these these
Speaker 4: these aircraft carrier groups are. You can't just like put
Speaker 4: them off the coast of of of Yemen and expect
Speaker 4: that nothing's, nothing's going to happen. You know, this is
Speaker 4: this is but but Biden has been a very poor leader,
Speaker 4: commander in chief, you know, from the from the very
Speaker 4: beginning with his debacle in in Afghanistan to debacle in Palestine.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and we've covered Biden about how nobody
Speaker 3: has received more a pac money in the history of
Speaker 3: a Pak than Joe Biden himself, so he could be
Speaker 3: at the behest of Israel and Yahoo all them anyway, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's it very clearly. He was the
Speaker 4: largest senator to receive something like six million dollars from APAC.
Speaker 4: But I think that the Biden family, there's there's there's
Speaker 4: more than just the carrot. There's also the stick. I
Speaker 4: think that they have they have dirt on the Bidens.
Speaker 4: You have to understand that people like jeff Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 4: and these kinds of operations been going on for a
Speaker 4: long time in Israel where they get they get compromising
Speaker 4: information or photographs of your leader, and then your leader
Speaker 4: has to do what they tell them to do, otherwise
Speaker 4: they'll be exposed.
Speaker 6: And so.
Speaker 4: You know, with with with Joe Biden and and the
Speaker 4: Ukraine situation where he his son was over there doing
Speaker 4: business with Ukraine, and and Joe Biden told the told
Speaker 4: the leadership of the country, you will stop this prosecution
Speaker 4: and this investigation of Brismo or whatever it was, or
Speaker 4: you won't get the money. And and they they change
Speaker 4: their policy, they decide they want to investigation. But this
Speaker 4: is I think, you know, and with with Trump it's
Speaker 4: it's not a lot better, to be quite honest, it's
Speaker 4: not a lot better. Trump is a different individual, quite
Speaker 4: quite different policies with different actions, but his relationship with
Speaker 4: Israel is just as bad, just as he's just as
Speaker 4: compromised with Israel as Biden was.
Speaker 3: How so, how do you think he's been compromised by Israel?
Speaker 3: I mean, are they forcing Trump to do certain things
Speaker 3: for Israel?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Like, in what ways do you think he's compromised?
Speaker 4: Well? Like, in the in the last, in the last,
Speaker 4: the first first time he was in in the White House,
Speaker 4: he had his son in law giving up, you know,
Speaker 4: giving him the straight dope from Israel. His son in
Speaker 4: law's father was a convicted criminal who who Trump pardoned.
Speaker 4: Trump moved the embassy from Tuby to Television to Jerusalem.
Speaker 4: And he also recognized the Israel's annexation of the Goal
Speaker 4: on Heights and you know, things things like that, and
Speaker 4: and so he's he was he was kind of lucky
Speaker 4: the first time around that he didn't have a Middle
Speaker 4: Eastern conflict like this one to deal with. Now he's
Speaker 4: coming into a very volatile area at a very volatile time,
Speaker 4: and whether he can handle it or not will remain
Speaker 4: to be seen, but he certainly gets he certainly gets
Speaker 4: a lot of respect from the people in that area.
Speaker 3: Now, you would think you would think that you know,
Speaker 3: certain people within our country, Biden, Trump, whoever, would be
Speaker 3: trying to help out Israel. I mean, they are our
Speaker 3: biggest ally, aren't they. I mean allegedly they are our
Speaker 3: biggest allies. So we would be trying to help them out.
Speaker 4: Right, let me ask you a question. They always talk
Speaker 4: about Israel being the beast ally can you tell me
Speaker 4: one time when Israel has sent troops to a war
Speaker 4: the United States have been involved in the Middle East? Never, never,
Speaker 4: You never see Israeli soldiers on the ground. Likewise, when likewise,
Speaker 4: when these catastrophes happen around the world, you know, tsunamis
Speaker 4: or whatever, you never see Israeli sending help. They've changed
Speaker 4: that recently. They they changed that recently to they they
Speaker 4: sent some people to Florida when there was that that
Speaker 4: collapse of the tower, that collapse of that living space
Speaker 4: in Florida. But there an ally means that they support
Speaker 4: you in battle.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry, sir, not to interrupt, but I have
Speaker 6: to ask one more time, which housing complex in Florida.
Speaker 6: Are you talking about, Because if I'm not mistaken, didn't
Speaker 6: John McAfee's apartment complex get torched in Florida right around
Speaker 6: the time he was supposed to release a bunch of
Speaker 6: information about Killery.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard that. I heard that.
Speaker 6: Is that the same building we're talking about? Where the people?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think it was Sunny Isles Beach or someplace
Speaker 4: near there. So interesting, great, and it started to fall
Speaker 4: and fell into the swimming pool and clap. It's very suspicious, very.
Speaker 6: Very very suspicious.
Speaker 2: Indeed, just making sure funny, how we get funny, how
Speaker 2: we get their help.
Speaker 4: Then you know he's ready. They're very good at demolition.
Speaker 6: And I remember odd as some of the best.
Speaker 4: I was in Jerusalem.
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 4: I was in Bethlehem once at the cold time of
Speaker 4: the year, and and I'm major square there. There's one
Speaker 4: building that's built in the nineteen twenties something like that,
Speaker 4: that is the police headquarters from the British time. And
Speaker 4: underneath the top, underneath the there was a free space
Speaker 4: with with columns holding up the building, and there was
Speaker 4: some guy running around underneath their setting off detonation charges.
Speaker 4: Underneath this was a This was a holiday, and I wondered,
Speaker 4: what is the doing what are they doing that for?
Speaker 4: And then you know Israel has been demolishing Palestinian houses
Speaker 4: for decades and they are very good at it. And
Speaker 4: there were there was a group of individual Israeli students
Speaker 4: that was kept was arrested shortly after nine eleven, and
Speaker 4: this was tied in with the drug dea a survey
Speaker 4: that they they found that these art students is really
Speaker 4: art students headed by a man who had a demolition
Speaker 4: cruise in Israel Army were involved in living nearby these
Speaker 4: nineteen Arab hijackers, so called air hijackers. And what we
Speaker 4: what we have is in with the situation was in
Speaker 4: f as well and Texas in California, is that you
Speaker 4: had a cluster of would be terrorists living at one
Speaker 4: house and a few houses away you had a cluster
Speaker 4: of Israelis watching this surveying these these these Palestinians, of
Speaker 4: these Arabs. And what what you also had is in
Speaker 4: Florida at the time, people would go to get a license,
Speaker 4: like a Palestine Israeli would go an air would go
Speaker 4: get a license. Then he would call into the DA
Speaker 4: on to the to the the driver's license people and
Speaker 4: say I lost my license, can I have another one?
Speaker 4: I've changed my address, I need a new new license,
Speaker 4: and they would automatically just print web for him and
Speaker 4: send it to him as a new address. So what
Speaker 4: you had in effact was you had two people with
Speaker 4: the same identity using a license, same license, with different addresses.
Speaker 4: And this is this is the essence of the UH
Speaker 4: Israeli most out operation about how they will they will
Speaker 4: steal the identities of of terrorists and commit a crime
Speaker 4: to be blamed on the terrorists, when in fact the
Speaker 4: terrorists are just Patsy's.
Speaker 2: Oh my, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3: That is I mean, if it wasn't so evil, it's brilliant,
Speaker 3: That's what I always like to say, Like it's brilliant, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you if you read, if you read James
Speaker 4: Bond books, they're there. He was spot on that there's
Speaker 4: a there is a central evil entity in the world
Speaker 4: that it's trying to get global global power over the
Speaker 4: population and either either some sort of resource or energy.
Speaker 4: And that's what that's what probably why he died at
Speaker 4: age fifty five in Jamaica after writing about thirteen of
Speaker 4: these books. But he he was right about that. And
Speaker 4: there there is there is this there's this club, and
Speaker 4: we're not part of it. There's this big club and
Speaker 4: it's these people who are tied together by oaths, and
Speaker 4: it's uh secret organizations. And and they you know, have
Speaker 4: you ever seen any footage from a Mason's Mason's meeting
Speaker 4: in London? Thousands and thousands of these guys and dressed
Speaker 4: up in this outfit. They're they're they're they're everywhere. And
Speaker 4: and the Masons are a subgroup of the Jewishkapala.
Speaker 6: Right, well, the Kambala is the book that they reference
Speaker 6: in their book Morals and Dogs as a matter of fact.
Speaker 4: Right, and and and and so that you have, like
Speaker 4: the New York New York Times approaching the nine to
Speaker 4: eleven and on the second anniversary, I believe it was
Speaker 4: of the nine to eleven the opinion opinion of the
Speaker 4: paper was that we don't know what happened in nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, and we never will know, he says, But
Speaker 4: we have to we have to accept that that there
Speaker 4: are things we we we will never know. And it's okay,
Speaker 4: we we know what happened. Without knowing what happened. That's
Speaker 4: the paper of New York Times.
Speaker 6: Speaking on what happened and didn't happen. So that's New
Speaker 6: York and the trade centers were in New York, no doubt.
Speaker 6: But you were actually in Washington, d C. On the
Speaker 6: morning of. What is your take on the Pentagon getting hit?
Speaker 6: Because there's so much controversy around that, right, there's the
Speaker 6: Plaine parts that they pulled out were not from the
Speaker 6: plane that allegedly hit. There's no cameras at the Pentagon
Speaker 6: that got a picture of it, even though and by
Speaker 6: the way, I used to live in DC as well.
Speaker 6: I've been in and out of the Pentagon more times
Speaker 6: than I can count. There's no way that a fifth
Speaker 6: of the Pentagon's cameras all just simultaneously went out that morning.
Speaker 6: That that is an impossibility mathematically. So is what is
Speaker 6: your take on it being there on the morning of?
Speaker 4: Well, I wasn't. I wasn't there in the morning of.
Speaker 4: I was stuck in Maryland and I decided not to
Speaker 4: go to Washington, DC. I got to go back Chicago.
Speaker 7: The the.
Speaker 4: The Pentagon, I would say, I would say a couple
Speaker 4: of things about that. First of all, the area of
Speaker 4: the Pentagon that got hit was the was a quadrant
Speaker 4: of the building that was had been under repair by
Speaker 4: a British company called AMIC, which stands for Assets Management
Speaker 4: and a Revaluation Consultants AMEC, and it's Engineering consultants and
Speaker 4: they're the ones who do the engineering for VP Okay
Speaker 4: Oil Giant. Now, the thing is is that, first of all,
Speaker 4: why is the Pentagon being the fortress of American military?
Speaker 4: Why is the Pentagon being refurbished or built by a
Speaker 4: foreign company in the first place, You would think that
Speaker 4: that would be something that would they would want to
Speaker 4: at least keep in American hands. But they let it,
Speaker 4: They let AMIC do it. And then so Amick was
Speaker 4: in charge of having built the section was just it
Speaker 4: was just getting opened again when it got hit. Then
Speaker 4: they were in charge of the cleanup, not only a
Speaker 4: clean up at the World Trade Center, but the cleanup
Speaker 4: at the Pentagon. And that then that that seems to
Speaker 4: indicate that there was something, you know, veryficient going on
Speaker 4: to cover up. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I could see it on the surface level of the
Speaker 6: quote unquote main narrative that Okay, yeah, this company won
Speaker 6: the government contract for all of the cleanup on the
Speaker 6: as far as the events go. But when you go
Speaker 6: state to state like that, those contracts differ very, very heavily.
Speaker 6: It's not like you just get the entire nine to
Speaker 6: eleven contract, you know what I mean, they subcontract in
Speaker 6: the subcontract and do that whole thing. And I know
Speaker 6: that that's relatively new because fed BizOps only became a
Speaker 6: thing and like what three or something like that. Before that,
Speaker 6: it was all just buddy buddy system. So it was
Speaker 6: the upper elites keeping themselves rich. But even still, that
Speaker 6: is way too suspicious for somebody to a company, not
Speaker 6: just any company, a foreign company, and not just any
Speaker 6: foreign company, the company that works for BP, which if
Speaker 6: anybody he wants to do a little digging into the
Speaker 6: history of the British petroleum industry and see how that
Speaker 6: actually goes into long standing ties in the Middle East
Speaker 6: and Iran and how the angler that's dirty money, dirty
Speaker 6: dirty old school imperial things. We could talk about that
Speaker 6: another time. But the fact that that engineering firm won
Speaker 6: the contract for all of the cleanup, like, there's multiple
Speaker 6: levels of red flags here that I don't think most
Speaker 6: people would notice right off the top.
Speaker 4: Another red flag is that the people watch all the
Speaker 4: time about you know, Navy intelligence, military intelligence. But the
Speaker 4: actual investigation in the World Trade Center was carried out
Speaker 4: at the at the Pentagon was done by the FBI.
Speaker 4: Now that doesn't make sense because the military has its
Speaker 4: own investigation agencies that should have taken over that investigation
Speaker 4: of the Pentagon.
Speaker 6: Wait wait, wait, the FBI only handles domestic issues. This
Speaker 6: was allegedly international terrorists. This is completely CIA territory. Why
Speaker 6: would the why would the FBI even be involved?
Speaker 4: We're right, how would the FBI be able? FBI was
Speaker 4: locking out the New York Police, the New York Firefighters,
Speaker 4: and the and the military intelligence agencies at the Pentagon. Now,
Speaker 4: the FBI is, of course part of the DOJ. It's
Speaker 4: directly under directly under the Attorney General. The attorneys you
Speaker 4: know at the time was called camp the guy from
Speaker 4: Missouri who Canahan Carnahan. I forgot his name, but he
Speaker 4: was the attorney general, mel mel Carnahan, Mel Carnahan think
Speaker 4: something like that. The person who actually ran the investigation
Speaker 4: was his assistant, the deputy Michael Schertoff, Michael Sharetof Michael
Speaker 4: Sharretoff is an Israelian national. He's an American Israeli dual national.
Speaker 4: His mother was a massade agent. Now Michael Schertoff became
Speaker 4: the person who was in charge of the investigation of
Speaker 4: nine to eleven, the whole nine to eleven operation from
Speaker 4: beginning Pentagon twin Towers bomb, that's what they called it,
Speaker 4: and he was in charge of that. Now that's a
Speaker 4: problem there because Israel was just from prima facie evidence,
Speaker 4: was involved in nine to eleven, with their prior knowledge
Speaker 4: of it, having warned about it, having people involved in it,
Speaker 4: you know, the five Dancing israelis et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of early indication of Israeli involvement,
Speaker 4: prior knowledge, et cetera. To having Israeli investigating possible Israeli
Speaker 4: crime in the United States of America seemed completely wrong
Speaker 4: and it was, I mean, he.
Speaker 2: Was he is now the.
Speaker 4: He's now the CEO of BAE Systems USA. BAE is
Speaker 4: British Aerospace in British Aerospace.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a big company as far as the not
Speaker 6: just American military industrial complex, but the global that's a
Speaker 6: that's a big player.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like fourth fifth bigest in the United States
Speaker 4: and same in the world. Right, So now this is
Speaker 4: this is the British connection to nine to eleven, explain BBC.
Speaker 4: BBC gave it away. First of all, they had they
Speaker 4: had the guy at Stephen Evans, who was at the
Speaker 4: base of the world's real trader World Trade Center number two,
Speaker 4: who talked about feeling explosions. He was very clear about
Speaker 4: this series of explosions. He felt under very deep down
Speaker 4: up high. There's no question about it. This guy who
Speaker 4: knows explosions, he said, he heard him. Then later in
Speaker 4: the day they had their office in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: Talking about the World Trade Center seven had just fallen,
Speaker 4: when in fact World Trades Henter seven is physic clearly
Speaker 4: visible in the background behind a lady's shoulder. She's talking
Speaker 4: about the collapse of building seven before it happened.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 4: So and then and then the way they had Ahood
Speaker 4: Olmer on BBC explaining putting the blame clearly Asama bin Laden.
Speaker 4: So brit British is clearly involved in this, Britain has
Speaker 4: clearly involved in this. Now this gets back to this
Speaker 4: whole big club, you know, like, who are we talking about, Well,
Speaker 4: when we talk about Britain, we're talking about the Rothschilds,
Speaker 4: We're talking about people with immense amount of money and
Speaker 4: immense amount of power globally, and they would have they
Speaker 4: would have the power to be the initiator of the
Speaker 4: force behind the entire operation and to be in position
Speaker 4: to give CEO membership to people like Michael Schertoff hold On.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a little bit of research on this, BAE,
Speaker 3: and from what I'm reading, BA owns Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.
Speaker 6: This recently happened. There was a lot of acquisitions that
Speaker 6: took place in this year of twenty twenty four. As
Speaker 6: of now there's like three they're trying to consolidate, and
Speaker 6: basically they're trying to legalize the monopoly of the military
Speaker 6: industrial complex. So it's no longer Raytheon, it's RTX and
Speaker 6: they just got bought out by these people who just
Speaker 6: got bought out by these it's they're playing that dirty
Speaker 6: game right now, and they're trying to consolidate all of
Speaker 6: the big players in the war game to three dogs.
Speaker 2: That's not good now, It's not.
Speaker 4: One would be General Dynamics, and General Dynamics is involved
Speaker 4: in the cover up of the Kennedy assassination and involved
Speaker 4: in the cover up of nine to eleven as well,
Speaker 4: and they profit very much because they're the ones who
Speaker 4: produced these shows that cost four thousand dollars a pop,
Speaker 4: these artillery shows, you know, and and in in Vietnam
Speaker 4: during the Vietnam War. They're the ones who got got
Speaker 4: the contract for the jet fighter that was between Boeing
Speaker 4: and Jonadynamics and went back and forth and finally went
Speaker 4: went to them. But they needed the war, so they
Speaker 4: had to get rid of Kennedy in order to get
Speaker 4: the war. And there they're lawyer. The lawyer for the
Speaker 4: family that owns Jenera Dynamics, the Crown family in Chicago.
Speaker 4: Henry Crown, his personal lawyer, was the was the head
Speaker 4: of the legal committee for the Warrant Commission. And nine
Speaker 4: eleven a nine to eleven, a very strange thing happened
Speaker 4: near Chicago at Northwestern University, Czechoslovakian engineering professor wrote a
Speaker 4: paper came out. It came out on the twelfth of September,
Speaker 4: one day after nine to eleven, and he without seeing
Speaker 4: any evidence, without seeing having any evidence of visiting the
Speaker 4: location anything, he wrote a paper and said that the
Speaker 4: buildings collapse because of collapse, you know, fire induced gravity collapse.
Speaker 4: The basic theory that they needed to have somebody produce
Speaker 4: this theory. And he works at the university and the
Speaker 4: engineering department, which is funded by the Crown family, the
Speaker 4: people who own Aspen Mountain and Gero Dynamics.
Speaker 6: Is just found a guy with some credentials to give
Speaker 6: a narrative that they could run on the news.
Speaker 4: They found a guy that they controlled, that they own,
Speaker 4: that they control his immigration status, They control his his
Speaker 4: his status at the university. The Northwest University is very
Speaker 4: very highly funded by the Crown family, especially in the
Speaker 4: engineering department. And they told they must have told him,
Speaker 4: somebody told him. This is a guy whose English is
Speaker 4: it's kind of not not very fluent, and and he's
Speaker 4: and they got him to write a paper, produce a
Speaker 4: paper in one day to bolster. Now, now that's bad science.
Speaker 4: First of all, the paper should have to go through
Speaker 4: a peer review right and be examined by be read
Speaker 4: by other But now that it has gone through peer reviews,
Speaker 4: it's been turned down as as faulty. But it was
Speaker 4: enough to that that the met you could hang their
Speaker 4: hat on and say that yes, you know. Zidenic Bazant
Speaker 4: of Northwest University says that the buildings fell because of
Speaker 4: fire induced gravity collapse. That's all they needed. Completely false,
Speaker 4: completely false. Now, the thing is is that is that
Speaker 4: you know the people that do you understand, it's very
Speaker 4: simple to understand who's behind it. All you can you
Speaker 4: can process elimination. You see that all the media, all
Speaker 4: the control media in America, all the mainstream media in America,
Speaker 4: was lockstep in support of the official version, and they
Speaker 4: never allowed a single question to enter their paper about
Speaker 4: what might have happened, evidence of explosions, questions, many questions
Speaker 4: were being asked by all people all over the country.
Speaker 4: They won't they won't even go. They went and pretend
Speaker 4: they worried questions. Anybody who asked questions was was nuts.
Speaker 4: So so so you say that the owners of the
Speaker 4: media must be in some way complicit, they must be
Speaker 4: part of this club. So the owners of media, government officials,
Speaker 4: and you wind up getting a small subset group of
Speaker 4: people that must be in cahoots in secrets, in secret meetings,
Speaker 4: in secret consensus to hide the truth from the public.
Speaker 4: And there's this group also asked me very strongly pro Israel.
Speaker 4: And one group comes up right away bene breath, the Israel,
Speaker 4: the Jews, the Zionist Jews have always had secret societies
Speaker 4: to supports their cause. In that groups called bename Moche
Speaker 4: and and Bene Breath and the Lovers of Zien, and
Speaker 4: there were many in Eastern Europe they started, but the
Speaker 4: one that it started in New York in eighteen forty
Speaker 4: three was been a Breath and the owner of the
Speaker 4: New York Times, Saltzburg Ox family was the founder of
Speaker 4: the Bena Brith Lodge number one in New York City.
Speaker 4: So I'm just I'm just showing you that there's there
Speaker 4: is this secret society, very alive, long long, well entrenched,
Speaker 4: that these people belonged to that group. It may be
Speaker 4: unpopular to say it, but the media in this country,
Speaker 4: in the United States is controlled for a long time
Speaker 4: by Jews at the very top. They owned they owned
Speaker 4: the they owned the newspapers. You know, there's one who's
Speaker 4: one who's not openly Jewish but has perhaps some connection.
Speaker 4: Is is Rupert Murdoch. Now you have to ask yourself
Speaker 4: a question. Rupert Murdock. I was a skiing instructor in Colorado,
Speaker 4: and I skied with his family one afternoon, and the
Speaker 4: question that I would have should have asked him would
Speaker 4: have been polite to do so. But how does a
Speaker 4: publisher from Australia come up with the money to come
Speaker 4: to the United States and buy one hundred sixty newspapers
Speaker 4: include you know, his big papers, Hartford Courant and Chicago
Speaker 4: Sun Times, Wall Street Journal, Fox TV. Where does the
Speaker 4: money come from? Well, if you look, if you look
Speaker 4: into the history of We're Not, you'll find that he was.
Speaker 4: He was funded by the Rothschild General Bank. Somebody just
Speaker 4: ask yourself, how can a person from a small country
Speaker 4: come to the United States and buy up all of
Speaker 4: his newspapers in a matter of a couple of years.
Speaker 6: So did he Was he some sort of mogul in Australia?
Speaker 6: Did the man have some sort of massive businesses? He
Speaker 6: just said, screw it, I'm just going to America now.
Speaker 6: Before he came, I mean.
Speaker 4: He kept he kept his properties in Australia. But but
Speaker 4: he simply doesn't have that He doesn't he doesn't have
Speaker 4: that kind of money. They don't. That money isn't present
Speaker 4: in Australia to come and buy the entire media network
Speaker 4: in the United States of America.
Speaker 6: That's true. That's a large amount for just some random
Speaker 6: Australian business guy to have liquid to come over and
Speaker 6: make big moves in the media sphere in America like that.
Speaker 4: What it means is that is that when when George
Speaker 4: Bush was preparing to go to war against Iraq in
Speaker 4: two thousand and three, every newspaper that belonged to Trump,
Speaker 4: belonged to Murdoch, all huntrets and newspapers agreed with the
Speaker 4: need to go to war against Iraq, although there was
Speaker 4: no real reason to go to war with Iraq. The
Speaker 4: evidence was false, there was no crime committed, but all
Speaker 4: his papers agreed, and so that meant that like in
Speaker 4: mine in North Dakota where he owned every TV station,
Speaker 4: newspaper and radio for that town, also air force down,
Speaker 4: they all got the message that it's time to go
Speaker 4: to war and this paper believes in it. So you see,
Speaker 4: that's how control the media plays a key role. Trump,
Speaker 4: I mean ru Murdoch was attacking me from the very
Speaker 4: beginning with his TV hosts. You know, these two guys,
Speaker 4: they attacked me and question me on Holocaust and things
Speaker 4: like this, as if that made it made any difference.
Speaker 4: But the real question is how is it that you
Speaker 4: the media, the established media, ignore the evidence of nine
Speaker 4: to eleven of something happening and instead present a false
Speaker 4: version to the American people. That's the question.
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen Project Mockingbird being carried out like crazy,
Speaker 3: especially with all the COVID nonsense and a lot of other,
Speaker 3: you know, things that are going on in the world.
Speaker 3: They're all parroting each other, and so it would make
Speaker 3: sense that there is one organization or a few organizations
Speaker 3: that own all of them, or at least the majority
Speaker 3: of these news organizations and newspaper outlets and journalists and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, that they would all be saying the
Speaker 3: same thing if they're trying to push forward a motive
Speaker 3: or an agenda, right, And so, I mean, it is
Speaker 3: the best way to do it if you're thinking about it, dude.
Speaker 3: It's actually, like I say it again, like it is
Speaker 3: pretty damn brilliant because nobody's looking at Rupert Murdoch saying, oh, well,
Speaker 3: you know, he's just he's carrying out the the agenda
Speaker 3: of an entire different nation. Nobody would think that, right,
Speaker 3: But if that money is being funneled to him, and
Speaker 3: uh and in very like just weird ways, you know,
Speaker 3: it makes you question why, you know, and the question
Speaker 3: for me would be that like, like, why would I guess,
Speaker 3: why would the roth Childs is it? Do you think
Speaker 3: that it is the roth Childs that are that are
Speaker 3: telling Rupert Murdoch to buy up all these corporations and
Speaker 3: news media outlets and everything to push forward an agenda
Speaker 3: to get us into these other wars and to carry out,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever possibly Israel wants us to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Israel is really a minor player compared to the Rothschilds.
Speaker 4: If you look at the roth Child's the assets they own.
Speaker 4: One of the first things is that the head of
Speaker 4: the family said in the very beginning to his sons,
Speaker 4: never allow the company, the family to be audited, never
Speaker 4: to be audited, and never has been audited. But it
Speaker 4: owns virtually every single national bank in the world. National
Speaker 4: Bank of Zambia, national Bank of Germany, national Bank of
Speaker 4: the United Federal Reserve System is all owned by the Rothschilds.
Speaker 4: So when they talk about me, always says and Elon Trump,
Speaker 4: the richest man in the world, is pure bogus. Elon
Speaker 4: Trump is probably an employee of the rothch Child Elon Musk, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Elon Musk.
Speaker 6: I mean Elon Musk is the quote unquote wealthiest man
Speaker 6: on paper. There are cartel leaders that are worth more
Speaker 6: than him, Let's just be very honest about that. And
Speaker 6: then that does not even touch the wealth of solely
Speaker 6: Jacob Rothschild before he died, I think David may have
Speaker 6: been named as the new patriarch, so like his net
Speaker 6: worth somewhere in the four hundred trillion, something absurd that
Speaker 6: humans can't even conceive. But like, yeah, now Elon's the
Speaker 6: richest man legally on paper, that's all.
Speaker 4: And and the rock Childs control the royal family and
Speaker 4: they control they control the US government. They you know,
Speaker 4: they have they have immense power. But they're they're they've
Speaker 4: been doing it for a long time, and they're very
Speaker 4: good at being discreet and maintaining themselves in the shadows,
Speaker 4: so to speak. Whereas then they then they they use
Speaker 4: people like Elon Musk as a as a as a
Speaker 4: as an agent, as a minion to do the things
Speaker 4: that they want to do. I mean, now you look
Speaker 4: at the media X being Twitter being taken over by
Speaker 4: Elon Muskin and the way that he's going to be
Speaker 4: like the new prime minister under under Donald Trump. We're
Speaker 4: looking at it we're looking at a very dangerous situation.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, when when we have we allow
Speaker 4: such unconstitutional things to occur.
Speaker 6: So I get the feeling that you've come under fire
Speaker 6: a good bit for your takes on nine to eleven UH.
Speaker 6: And I think, Jonathan, you told me that you were
Speaker 6: even swatted at one point.
Speaker 4: Well, I was attacked by a tax outfit in uh
Speaker 4: in Halfame States, Illinois. I was, and I was tasered
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, and I was I went to
Speaker 4: court and tried to fight it and all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. And but yeah, it was, it was, it
Speaker 4: was at the time, it.
Speaker 6: Was, it was this was for free speech for your opinion.
Speaker 6: They they rated your home and tased you and brought
Speaker 6: you to court.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah yeah. And but the thing is that
Speaker 4: you have to understand is that at that time and
Speaker 4: even now at that time, to be connecting the dots
Speaker 4: of Israeli actors, bad actors like the ones I mentioned before,
Speaker 4: Natanyahu and others being involved in this nine to eleven operation,
Speaker 4: this is very sensitive, very very sensitive. It's like if
Speaker 4: you if you, if you cared says Israel in the
Speaker 4: halls of Congress, you'll find yourself out of Congress very soon.
Speaker 4: And people that people that have done so, like the
Speaker 4: you know, Slay and others, they they they run out
Speaker 4: of Congress. Every single person in Congress is bought and
Speaker 4: paid for by APAX. And and likewise, if you if
Speaker 4: you come along like me and start pointing out some
Speaker 4: of the blemishes of the Israeli state, they'll get back
Speaker 4: at you.
Speaker 3: So it sounds like you've probably been called an anti
Speaker 3: semit like crazy, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But but see the thing is that's ridiculous
Speaker 4: because I had this advantage that I was after high school,
Speaker 4: I went traveling in the Middle East, and I was
Speaker 4: in Iran and all that in the late seventies, and
Speaker 4: I wound up in Israel.
Speaker 6: You were there before the eye Atola took over. Yeah,
Speaker 6: oh okay, So how was I ran back then? First
Speaker 6: person account I heard it was awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was. It was normal. It was it
Speaker 4: was normal. There weren't there. It wasn't like with people
Speaker 4: wearing burkas and and hue jobs everywhere, but there was
Speaker 4: there was a simmering, simmering discontent. You could feel. It
Speaker 4: was palpable with the with the Shaw and the Shaw
Speaker 4: obviously had modernized and and done things in the country
Speaker 4: that were good and some things that were not so good.
Speaker 4: And and you know, I wish that you could you
Speaker 4: you could talk to these people like Asad and the
Speaker 4: Shaw and tell them, like, chill a little bit, lighting up,
Speaker 4: you know, give the people some you give the people
Speaker 4: some some some freedom and stuff and and and step back.
Speaker 4: But they they're always so stupid. They never do that,
Speaker 4: and they wind up going down the hard way.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I went to Israel, and uh it was New
Speaker 4: Year's seventy six, and I wanted on a kid butts
Speaker 4: in the Jordan Valley, Israeli Israeli agricultural settlement in the
Speaker 4: Jordan Valley near at the Sea of Galilee. And then
Speaker 4: I learned about Zionism from the Zionis people themselves, who
Speaker 4: were of Zionism. These people came from Russia and Poland
Speaker 4: and whatnot, who firmly believed that they needed to have
Speaker 4: homeland in the Middle East and all that stuff. So
Speaker 4: I learned about Zionism from Zionis. And then when I
Speaker 4: when I when I came back to America years later,
Speaker 4: and when I would read the New York Times, the
Speaker 4: falseness of the paper was so glaringly obvious that the
Speaker 4: way that the Middle East was being represented was completely wrong.
Speaker 4: And it was it was obvious to anybody who'd been there,
Speaker 4: but so a few people that have been there it
Speaker 4: didn't matter to them, you know, they had a mission
Speaker 4: to promote Israel and make it. Then the thing that
Speaker 4: really really tipped it off to me was the nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty two war when Israel went into Lebanon. And there's
Speaker 4: a book called Eyewitness Lebanon, very hard to get, a
Speaker 4: very large format book with photographs. It shows photographs of
Speaker 4: the Israeli occupation, Israeli invasion of Lebanon nineteen eighty, seventy nine,
Speaker 4: eighty two. Well it started in seventy nine, but nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty two and in nineteen eighty two they shows it
Speaker 4: shows a picture I remember very clearly, is a parade
Speaker 4: of doctors and nurses in their medical garb being paraded
Speaker 4: down the streets of Bay Route under the guns of
Speaker 4: Israeli soldiers. And I thought, why would they be arresting
Speaker 4: all these doctors and nurses in the middle of a war. Well, now,
Speaker 4: after we've seen in Gaza that's routine. Israel just buldozed
Speaker 4: down a hospital and Godza strip just yesterday just raised
Speaker 4: it to the floor, raised it to the ground and
Speaker 4: threatened to people get out of the be killed. Israel
Speaker 4: now has showing itself, is showing its true colors. A
Speaker 4: lot of people, a lot of people naturally think that
Speaker 4: Israel must be like us. Israel must be like like
Speaker 4: I think, like we do what it was western country
Speaker 4: where it's the homeland of it's the homeland of our
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, it must be it must be like us.
Speaker 4: They're they're completely wrong. They don't understand the Israel. The
Speaker 4: Jews in Israel have a completely different set of morals,
Speaker 4: completely different set of way how to wage war. And
Speaker 4: they're clear about this if you listen to them, that
Speaker 4: they are way waging wars to kill every man when
Speaker 4: a child and jackass and donkey and everybody else too
Speaker 4: kill them all and for them that's that's a good thing.
Speaker 4: And so they they have these videos, they're they're they're
Speaker 4: exposing themselves with showing making videos and selfies. You know,
Speaker 4: I saw I saw a Sophie today or image today
Speaker 4: on the TV of a bulldozer and in the in
Speaker 4: the scoop of the bulldozer, was a dead Palestinian hang
Speaker 4: off off the front end of it. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 6: For the record, as a veteran, we used to love
Speaker 6: that ship. Oh man. We used to share those pictures
Speaker 6: and videos to each other. We had a whole soundtrack
Speaker 6: of Take My Breath Away from Seline Dion and it
Speaker 6: was basically an entire assault that just happened. It was
Speaker 6: guts and it was yeah, you gotta understand the war
Speaker 6: fighter mentality is that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 6: But then I was a marine too, so like we're
Speaker 6: supposed to be a little psychotic. That's a part of it.
Speaker 6: It's a cults. But anyway, it's in human.
Speaker 4: That shows. That shows the success of the Israeli operation
Speaker 4: from the beginning, because the Israeli operation is to graft
Speaker 4: the American war fighter onto the Israeli state to serve
Speaker 4: the state of Israel. That's what they want. So if
Speaker 4: they can get the Americans to I could never believe
Speaker 4: how I would walk through in Washington, d c. And
Speaker 4: talk to military brass and they always had They had
Speaker 4: such glowing things to say about Israel. They loved Israel,
Speaker 4: And I thought, does this guy, does this guy have
Speaker 4: eyes in his head. Has he not been there? Does
Speaker 4: he not see what's going on? But but that's the
Speaker 4: thing is that they want to they want to graft
Speaker 4: the Israeli project to the American to the American project,
Speaker 4: so that there's one thing and that we wind up
Speaker 4: fighting their wars. Make no mistake about it. Those guys
Speaker 4: that are the guys that are gonna take the take
Speaker 4: the hit in in in in Hukilville are American soldiers,
Speaker 4: just like what happened in Afghanistan and Iraq. And it's
Speaker 4: it's it's what it's what it's done to so many
Speaker 4: young Americans like you is that it's it's it's Uh,
Speaker 4: how do say? Course, they made kids suffer psychologically as
Speaker 4: well as physically wounds that they should not have had
Speaker 4: to suffer.
Speaker 6: Respectfully, agree to disagree on the wounds thing. I mean,
Speaker 6: not everybody comes back with PTSD, not everybody that serves
Speaker 6: all combat. There's levels to that shit. But we kind
Speaker 6: of did that because that was the mentality that we
Speaker 6: as a warrior culture developed amongst ourselves. Warrior culture shouldn't
Speaker 6: be love and enjoy, it should be blood and chaos.
Speaker 6: So that was like an idea that we all and
Speaker 6: that's been indicative of the Marine Corps in seventeen seventy five.
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, but the generals that always
Speaker 6: go on about glowing reviews of Israel, the main narrative
Speaker 6: would say at least that Israel is an American foothold
Speaker 6: militarily potentially in a region that is constantly in conflict. Now,
Speaker 6: why is it always in conflict? We could blame Abraham allegedly,
Speaker 6: we could blame the Rothchilds allegedly, maybe both, But it's
Speaker 6: the same reason why Russia had those two big bases
Speaker 6: in Syria. Why does Russian need because that's a good
Speaker 6: foothold for them in the Mediterranean. Israel has been seen
Speaker 6: as America's foothold or closed ally in that region.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have to understand is that prior to
Speaker 4: you know, prior to Israel being in the region, America
Speaker 4: had no enemies in the region. America had you know,
Speaker 4: we have bases all over the Middle East and all
Speaker 4: over the Mediterranean Sea. We don't need that little Israel Israel.
Speaker 6: Before Israel was founded, that was before if we're talking
Speaker 6: prior to World War Two, we had bases all over
Speaker 6: the Mediterranean.
Speaker 4: You know, we had we had friends. In forty seven,
Speaker 4: we had we had friends Trench. You go to, you
Speaker 4: go acrossrom at least now today you'll find American universities
Speaker 4: and places like Beirut and Cairo. Yeah, their highly esteemed
Speaker 4: universities that were built by American taxpayers or American citizens
Speaker 4: to benefit the people of the region, because we thought
Speaker 4: that our goal at that time, in the eighteen hundreds
Speaker 4: and nineteen hundreds up untilnineteen foury seven was to bring
Speaker 4: up the level of level of living in the bring
Speaker 4: the people, you know, develop the countries.
Speaker 6: And that was bipartisan as well. Oxford has a massive
Speaker 6: university in Cairo, and that's a British university. But the
Speaker 6: same thing. The West, if you will, was trying to
Speaker 6: upgrade that region and if they could.
Speaker 4: But I'm with you, right, and I look at you
Speaker 4: were in Afghanistan, and you were in Afghanistan.
Speaker 6: I actually never deployed. I served from twenty ten to
Speaker 6: twenty fourteen. I was stationed in Washington, d C. For
Speaker 6: all four years. I joined to be in the infantry
Speaker 6: and go to Afghanistan or Iraq and see combat. That
Speaker 6: was my entire goal. But God has a plan, and
Speaker 6: his plan was for me to be in DC and
Speaker 6: do that shit. So that was cool. I guess.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing was is that what I'm getting at
Speaker 4: is that the war is good when it's done for
Speaker 4: a just cause.
Speaker 6: Agreed, and when it's done quickly. Nobody, no country has ever,
Speaker 6: you know, done well with a prolonged conflict two three
Speaker 6: years top. Get in, handle the situation, get out. That's
Speaker 6: the best way.
Speaker 4: That's what Lao Sue says.
Speaker 6: That's what says one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: No country does well with prolonged warfare.
Speaker 6: And then von Claudeswitz, as a matter of fact, in
Speaker 6: the turn of the century was the seventeen hundreds or
Speaker 6: sixteen hundreds. He furthered that. Now his wasn't more of
Speaker 6: a Sun Sioux way. It wasn't coming at it from
Speaker 6: different angles and being strategic. It was more blitz Creek tactics.
Speaker 6: But he furthered that by saying, get in, handle your shit,
Speaker 6: get out. And somehow they found that if you prolong it, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's costly to people, but your pocket books get thick.
Speaker 4: But I subscribe to the philosophy of George Washington and
Speaker 4: finding fathers, who said, I think in his farewell speech
Speaker 4: to the nation, that we should have friendship and bit
Speaker 4: commerce with all nations, alliance with none, and that we
Speaker 4: should avoid habitual friendships with nations and avoid habitual hatreds. Now,
Speaker 4: what we had with Israel is a iron glad align alliance,
Speaker 4: so to speak. But it's not an alliance. Where were
Speaker 4: these Raali soldiers in Iraq? Where are these race soldiers
Speaker 4: in Afghanistan? They were nowhere to be seen except training, training,
Speaker 4: and training Al Qaeda in the hills of Pakistan. So
Speaker 4: it's it's the United States, with this relationship with Israel,
Speaker 4: has done SOLF a great disservice. And so we've gotten
Speaker 4: into wars that are not just wars. The invasion of
Speaker 4: Afghanistan and engasion of Iraq right one by fraud, both
Speaker 4: by fraud. And the Americans who have paid the prices
Speaker 4: of serving in those wars, you know they have they
Speaker 4: have suffered because of unjust wars. Now, if the war
Speaker 4: is just like World War two, whatever other wars, but
Speaker 4: if it's not just, it is wrong to be in
Speaker 4: a war. And this is where the fighting man is
Speaker 4: in a predicament because he's not want to say whether
Speaker 4: he goes or doesn't go. He has to go where
Speaker 4: he's ordered to go.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: You know, Afghanistan and Iraq have been re bleeding wounds
Speaker 4: for this country. We've lost a lot of money, a
Speaker 4: lot of prestige, and a lot of people.
Speaker 3: Look, it's up my opinion that you are obviously onto
Speaker 3: something right like you have to be onto something or
Speaker 3: else you wouldn't have been attacked the way that you
Speaker 3: were attacked.
Speaker 2: I mean right, like right in your front yard.
Speaker 3: And I wonder, you know, after hearing I heard your
Speaker 3: story on another show, and it makes me wonder, like,
Speaker 3: first off, why didn't they kill you?
Speaker 2: And secondly, were you ever messed with again? After that?
Speaker 4: Well, after that, I went to court and I tried to,
Speaker 4: I tried to, you know, get myself out of trouble
Speaker 4: in court. And I could see that I when I
Speaker 4: came back from the first day, I came back from
Speaker 4: the from the lunch break, the judge was coming out
Speaker 4: of the chambers after the lunch break with the local
Speaker 4: out of the ad L and the Defamation League. He
Speaker 4: had lunch with the judge in his chambers.
Speaker 6: The Anti Defamation League. Is that what you said?
Speaker 4: Yeah, al yeah, And this guy, this ADL guy was
Speaker 4: really weird. He would he would sit next to me.
Speaker 4: I was in the defense area, and he would sit
Speaker 4: as close as he could to me and give me
Speaker 4: the evil eye. It's some sort of like funky thing
Speaker 4: to do. They look at you hysteria and try to
Speaker 4: psych you out. So it wasn't over. It wasn't over
Speaker 4: until it was over.
Speaker 6: And then.
Speaker 4: I kind of like retreated to Europe for a while.
Speaker 4: But yeah, they they do everything they can to to
Speaker 4: stop you from talking about this kind of stuff and
Speaker 4: understanding who's really who's really calling the shots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean nobody is going and uh knocking on
Speaker 3: the doors of people who have the theory that it
Speaker 3: was direct energy weapons, Like you know, you're not going
Speaker 3: to get you know, the the CIA, the FBI, whatever
Speaker 3: other kind of government contractor to come and you know,
Speaker 3: basically terrorize you if you're having an opinion that may
Speaker 3: seem a little bit far fetched, may seem a little
Speaker 3: bit out there or whatever. It seems like they really
Speaker 3: only come after the people who are really onto it.
Speaker 3: And the thing is is that nowadays, what's so beautiful
Speaker 3: is is that there are thousands of truther slash conspiracy
Speaker 3: podcasts out there. They can't come after everybody whenever they
Speaker 3: came after whenever they came after Alex Jones just a
Speaker 3: few months ago, some people say that that was not
Speaker 3: what it seemed like it was.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't you know, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to dive into that.
Speaker 3: But whenever that happened, you know, we saw it as
Speaker 3: like conspiracy podcasters. We saw it as, oh, well, good
Speaker 3: luck getting the rest of us, because it's just not
Speaker 3: going to happen. It's almost like what was in in
Speaker 3: a Bugs Life or Ants ants or whatever, where the
Speaker 3: grasshoppers are coming for the ants, right, and it's like, yo,
Speaker 3: the grasshoppers are.
Speaker 6: If they out number them ten to one, and shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: Whenever you have the numbers on your side, like you're
Speaker 3: just not worried, you know. And so that's that's kind
Speaker 3: of great about where we are today thanks to podcasting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Alex Jones was the beginning of the
Speaker 4: podcasting if you will, you know, with his show. I
Speaker 4: was on the show back in two thousand and five,
Speaker 4: I think it was. But what also happened is after
Speaker 4: I was in when I was in Europe, I was
Speaker 4: being trailed by some agent who called himself a Desky
Speaker 4: from Italy. He was supposed to Polish, but he turned
Speaker 4: out being Italian KLi when he came to our house
Speaker 4: one day and found out that he was in fact
Speaker 4: somebody else and even a different name than that. But
Speaker 4: as as you the the network that these people have
Speaker 4: to follow you and to track you and to trace
Speaker 4: you and to silence you is immense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it. I mean, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: They really got eyes everywhere. And we've talked about it
Speaker 3: before about you know, Israel's uh technology sector alone, like
Speaker 3: their surveillance and their technology is it seems to be
Speaker 3: right at the top, right like as far as their
Speaker 3: advancement and everything. So the fact that they would have
Speaker 3: eyes everywhere and people carrying out whatever missions they need
Speaker 3: to carry out on behalf of Israel, it seems like
Speaker 3: that would be the place to to get it done.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a there's this group's really army called
Speaker 4: Unit eight two zero zero and eight two zero zero
Speaker 4: is Signals Intelligence and they're they're they're they're perfected all
Speaker 4: kinds of intelligence for how transponders respond, you know, transponders
Speaker 4: speak and uh drone technology and things like that and
Speaker 4: and they hack all kinds of computers. And if you
Speaker 4: have a very successful podcast or TV show, they'll they'll
Speaker 4: they'll take you over. The guys with the bucks are
Speaker 4: coming buy you out. But the recently there was a
Speaker 4: friendly fire incident off the coast of Yemen where Hornet
Speaker 4: F A team was shot almost shot down, and.
Speaker 6: Then the Navy had to acknowledge that it was there.
Speaker 7: Bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but now the hooties tried claiming that ship, and
Speaker 6: it was like, y'all better stop, y'all, y'all don't want
Speaker 6: an invasion. Please calm down. Let's just let the Navy
Speaker 6: take the fall for this one. Let's take the little
Speaker 6: l because boy, we don't need Yemen to be glass
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 4: No, and and and the thing is that this this
Speaker 4: technology of using transponders and and uh uh computers to
Speaker 4: to commit crimes, cyber technology, cyber warfare is real specialty.
Speaker 4: And you know, the United States has to come up
Speaker 4: to get up to speed so that we can counter
Speaker 4: such such things like you know, the transponder hijacking transponders
Speaker 4: like we were having at nine to eleven. You know,
Speaker 4: we didn't know who was friendly, who was full. There
Speaker 4: was an operation going on a huge military operation. A
Speaker 4: lot of planes were just sending off primary data, and
Speaker 4: the American American Military Intelligence NORA didn't know who was
Speaker 4: friendly who was full. And the same sort of thing
Speaker 4: could happen in Yemen any day, as I mean, how
Speaker 4: can it possibly be that the the FA team was
Speaker 4: flying in and they didn't know it was theirs.
Speaker 6: There are examples, not many, There are examples of American
Speaker 6: anti air munitions being used against very specific types of
Speaker 6: US aircraft. Because the and this is years ago, this
Speaker 6: is not something that would happen in today's world. Like
Speaker 6: the situation that just took place a few years back.
Speaker 6: There was a incident where one of these planes, when
Speaker 6: they are going into a dive maneuver, does take on
Speaker 6: the speed and the trajectory and everything else as a
Speaker 6: certain type of ordinance that this anti aircraft system was
Speaker 6: rigged to go against. And this happened one time. They
Speaker 6: they lost their minds about how and this could even
Speaker 6: take place. It was discovered, the problem was fixed, but
Speaker 6: that was again that was more of a trial and
Speaker 6: error type situation. This one, this one's not that And
Speaker 6: I wish I was a fly on the wall and
Speaker 6: the ass chewing that somebody got for that one, but
Speaker 6: you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And two days later a passenger plane from from Ukraine
Speaker 4: or from Russia get shut down, Bakun get shut down,
Speaker 4: or Kazakhstan caspianc area yep, and somebody somebody's playing with
Speaker 4: somebody's transponders. If you don't know that a passenger plane
Speaker 4: flying over the Caspian Sea is a passenger plane, you
Speaker 4: better not be letting off miss. But that's what happened.
Speaker 6: Yeah, passenger planes move very differently the military craft. Like
Speaker 6: that's pretty much understood. So one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 2: Like turtle pace right compared to actual even if.
Speaker 6: It was like a C one thirty, even if it's
Speaker 6: like a cargo military plane that is one that flies
Speaker 6: slow and all of that. Bro, they fly at a
Speaker 6: different speed. They have a little name on there. They
Speaker 6: have to let the entire airspace know who and what
Speaker 6: they are. That's kind of how that goes, unless you
Speaker 6: are in a field of war where you turn that off.
Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But the thing is that all the pilots from nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, for example, people that were there were pilots
Speaker 4: at that time, people that flew those planes said, there's
Speaker 4: no way they could have pulled off that two under
Speaker 4: seventy degreeturn that went into the Pentagon. Correct, they could
Speaker 4: not have done it, and so that what was doing
Speaker 4: was it was the plane being flown by a computer.
Speaker 4: Probably that was because imagine pulling off a two unerenty
Speaker 4: return and then leveling out and coming right into the computer,
Speaker 4: right into the into the Pentagon. It's it's very very
Speaker 4: hard to.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and as far as that goes, you know,
Speaker 3: I actually never heard of the drone theory as being
Speaker 3: the airplane that was going into the twin towers. But
Speaker 3: it does make sense, especially with all this drone shit
Speaker 3: that's going on nowadays. People are getting videos of it
Speaker 3: and it is doing wild maneuvers like you don't.
Speaker 6: Think about drones like we're looking today. Back in one
Speaker 6: the drone and maybe they were messing with these types,
Speaker 6: but you remember what the Predator drone looked like. The
Speaker 6: drone strike for instance, that Obama dropped on that wedding
Speaker 6: that had all that controversy, But everybody just pushed by
Speaker 6: the wayside because our Lord and Savior Brock just did
Speaker 6: it and it was okay. Right, So that drone is
Speaker 6: the size of a small plane. It's not something you're
Speaker 6: gonna throw with your hand. But think about the technology
Speaker 6: that is used to power that drone being retrofitted for
Speaker 6: a Boweing seven forty seven. That seems as a former
Speaker 6: instrument tech and electrician, that literally seems like a little
Speaker 6: bit of some wiring. Dude, it doesn't seem that difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the software that would be going into it.
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with the hardware. I would
Speaker 2: think the.
Speaker 6: Predator didn't even have the ability to drop the bombs
Speaker 6: until few years later. It was mostly for reconnaissance. So
Speaker 6: if you're telling me that all I had to do
Speaker 6: was rig up and take away AI, a fucking excuse me.
Speaker 6: A kid with an Xbox remode, right, essentially that can
Speaker 6: power this thing and control it and do these crazy
Speaker 6: maneuvers that like that doesn't even make sense. And one
Speaker 6: hundred percent you look at their approach vectors, there's no
Speaker 6: way they could have done a two hundred and seventy
Speaker 6: degree turn like a video game unless it was more
Speaker 6: of a computer that was powering the craft. This makes
Speaker 6: sense to me, and we had the technology, we saw
Speaker 6: it fielded the next year on a smaller scale. So
Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: With you on this.
Speaker 3: Well, and especially if the buildings were aligned with thermite
Speaker 3: and and explosism stuff, and then you had on the
Speaker 3: drone allegedly a missile that was shooting at the same time,
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, of course, it seems like you'd be
Speaker 3: able to carry that out pretty easily. It's very well
Speaker 3: thought out. I mean, how many people like honestly prophesized
Speaker 3: that this would even happen.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, like you.
Speaker 3: See it all throughout certain movies. We've talked about how
Speaker 3: there was references to it and back to the future,
Speaker 3: right with the Twin Pines mall and everything like. So
Speaker 3: that dude, that was in what the eighties whenever that
Speaker 3: first one came out, right like eighty eight?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well the first, like I said, the first
Speaker 4: movie that came out was showed a plane flying into
Speaker 4: a building in New York City was the was the
Speaker 4: Medusa Touch in nineteen seventy nine. It was on Milkin's
Speaker 4: first film. So you know, this Israeli. He's considered Israel's
Speaker 4: number one agent, spy agent, and in how he's James
Speaker 4: bond of Israel aren on Milicon. Now, this guy, he
Speaker 4: he he seemed to have a fetish with planes flying
Speaker 4: into buildings. He made at least two films about it,
Speaker 4: and it was it was predicted by his good friend
Speaker 4: who's now on trial, Benjaminnatanyahu. So the thing is that
Speaker 4: we're not going to get a solution to nine to
Speaker 4: eleven through the through the courts because and the people
Speaker 4: that have, all the people that receive money from the payout,
Speaker 4: signed away their future litigation, which is what I would
Speaker 4: have tried to prevent people from doing, because when they
Speaker 4: took money from the government, they signed away their right
Speaker 4: to have any future litigation against anybody. And what you
Speaker 4: can tell, what we can tell most clearly about who's
Speaker 4: involved nine to eleven now is by looking at the
Speaker 4: cover up, because the cover up is ongoing, just like
Speaker 4: the Kennedy cover up is going. Every president is eleven
Speaker 4: since since nineteen sixty three, has supported the cover up
Speaker 4: of the Kennedy assassination. And the same people are behind
Speaker 4: the same people that are behind that, and they're behind
Speaker 4: COVID as well. If you're a military, if you're if
Speaker 4: your media is not up to the task of keeping
Speaker 4: democracy alive, the bad actors are going to take over
Speaker 4: the media and control the country.
Speaker 3: So by by doing the deep dive of research that
Speaker 3: you have into this subject and seeing how really everything
Speaker 3: else is played out up to current day, do you
Speaker 3: have any suspicions as to where, like the next move
Speaker 3: is going to be? Like if if it indeed was
Speaker 3: the people who you say it was, Like, what do
Speaker 3: you think their next step might be, Because a lot
Speaker 3: of people have talked about, well, could it be the
Speaker 3: Agenda twenty thirty right, like could it be something along
Speaker 3: those lines? We get the World Economic Forum Klaus Schwab
Speaker 3: like literal fucking sorry, literal Nazi and like it, Like
Speaker 3: you know, it just seems like there is some kind
Speaker 3: of New World Order style takeover that is on, like
Speaker 3: it's on the precipice, like it's it seems like something
Speaker 3: is going to happen. I feel like, you know, a
Speaker 3: lot we talked to a lot of people on this show,
Speaker 3: and everybody gets the same feeling that something crazy, it
Speaker 3: eminently will be happening. Do you do you get that
Speaker 3: same feeling as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my my my fear is something like another USS
Speaker 4: celebrity attack will happen to the navy in the Middle
Speaker 4: in the in the Middle East and the Red Sea
Speaker 4: or something like that, that some missile is gonna get by,
Speaker 4: you know, and and and hit a navy vessel. That's
Speaker 4: what my that seems to be the most the most
Speaker 4: likely thing would be because they're they're so vulnerab they're
Speaker 4: so they're so vulnerable, and it would be such a
Speaker 4: big spectacular event like nine to eleven to lose five
Speaker 4: thousand minute at one fell swoop or something like that,
Speaker 4: and you know, it would it would. I think that
Speaker 4: this this the war agenda is is the agenda that's
Speaker 4: being played out to the hilt right now. And any
Speaker 4: way they can get America to be involved more directly
Speaker 4: in aggression is what these these mad people want to happen.
Speaker 6: That we don't believe it will be a home bound
Speaker 6: attack or a sleeper cell terroristic attack or something like that.
Speaker 6: You don't think it will be on us soil?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't, I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 4: I think that I think they're more focused on on
Speaker 4: on Israel's war plan right now. And you know, there's
Speaker 4: there's there's still fighting in Iraq and Afghan and in cell,
Speaker 4: you're in uh in Syria with the with the Kurds,
Speaker 4: and this this, this isn't gonna go away. The United
Speaker 4: States controls one third of Syria, the northeastern part of Syria,
Speaker 4: and those Kurds are, you know, diametrically opposed to the
Speaker 4: Turkish government. Church government is against them. And and then
Speaker 4: there's this this this is also the area called Al Tanf,
Speaker 4: which is where Jordan and Iraq and Syria come together
Speaker 4: at the south that the United States claims a huge
Speaker 4: fifty five meter fifty five kilometer or fifty five mile
Speaker 4: radius around this area as US territory. And I have
Speaker 4: heard nothing from that. So what the United pull out
Speaker 4: of Syria or fraction Syria or I don't know what
Speaker 4: they're gonna do there. So there's a lot of things
Speaker 4: that are that are unknown at the time. But but
Speaker 4: something's gonna happen. Something's gotta give you in Syria.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but that's that's the thing. What's good
Speaker 6: is Syria gonna be the thing that finally kicks everything over.
Speaker 6: Is that we keep hearing these thoughts that we are
Speaker 6: on the precipice of potentially even World War three because
Speaker 6: there's so many different things going off and because of
Speaker 6: who's allied with who and who's got what, who's in
Speaker 6: bed with who. Honestly, either if that's above board or
Speaker 6: behind closed doors, that one cataclysm of the right caliber
Speaker 6: could just set everything off. And I mean, I can't
Speaker 6: fully disagree with that sentiment either. But I also think
Speaker 6: that World War war would be bad for business, and
Speaker 6: I feel like everybody knows that, so they're all trying
Speaker 6: to keep their dumpster fire contained within their own dumpsters.
Speaker 6: And but I agree that there are definitely nefarious actors
Speaker 6: that are absolutely trying to blend them together.
Speaker 3: Well, wasn't it World War One or was it World
Speaker 3: War Two that they say like was the cause for
Speaker 3: the US economy, you know, kind of growing the way
Speaker 3: that it did well.
Speaker 6: World War One arguably is what led the world into
Speaker 6: the Great Depression, and if we want to go into
Speaker 6: the Roaring twenties, there's a lot of socioeconomics shit with
Speaker 6: that too. But yeah, World War One was because everybody
Speaker 6: was cousins with everybody. It was all royal families that
Speaker 6: ran all of Europe. There was no democracy of republic
Speaker 6: of It was the Kingdom of dot dot dot right.
Speaker 6: So World War one comes around, and at the end
Speaker 6: of that they recut the map, they redraw the lines
Speaker 6: pretty much. Certain areas in the Middle East got told,
Speaker 6: you know, screw you, you're just gonna accept the map
Speaker 6: we give you, regardless of what language people speak on
Speaker 6: the side of the line. Whatever. And then then right
Speaker 6: now we have democracies and republics and this and this
Speaker 6: and this. Then cut to World War two. Everybody's in
Speaker 6: a slump, great depressions, not just killing America, it's it's
Speaker 6: being felt all over the world. And then we needed
Speaker 6: something to put some juice into all of our tanks.
Speaker 6: And next thing you know, we have a giant war,
Speaker 6: and Europe had to have all rebuilt after the war.
Speaker 6: And seeing as how America was the only country that
Speaker 6: could put out the industrial manufacturing capability to help them rebuild,
Speaker 6: we just happened to have all these new contracts and
Speaker 6: new opportunities overseas and all these things. Now we have
Speaker 6: military bases in Germany and we got you you see
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. It was a right place, right time,
Speaker 6: and taken advantage of the opportunity. But that's also why
Speaker 6: America waited so long to get involved with the war
Speaker 6: until basically they were only coming over to take over
Speaker 6: the rubble. So but that that's dirty, dirty things that
Speaker 6: will take long times to discuss.
Speaker 3: But yes, to your point, I guess just from everything
Speaker 3: that we've talked about and what we're seeing kind of
Speaker 3: unfold on the economic and political board, well and the
Speaker 3: military industrial complex board, if you will, it seems like
Speaker 3: there are certain pieces that are setting themselves up to
Speaker 3: kind of carry certain things out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Like America's been at peace for a few years now,
Speaker 6: We're about to go to war somewhere. We don't do
Speaker 6: good with peace.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And like you got you got us in the involvement
Speaker 3: in the Russian and Ukraine. You got eventually us. I dude,
Speaker 3: there's no way we don't some one way or another
Speaker 3: get involved more so in that Israeli and Hamas conflict,
Speaker 3: Like especially with Trump coming in. I mean, even though
Speaker 3: Biden was a recipient of a lot of APAC money,
Speaker 3: was definitely in bed with Yahoo and carrying out a
Speaker 3: lot of that shit.
Speaker 7: You got.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you haven't looked, I mean, we've had
Speaker 3: Brandon Kroll on this show a few times. I mean,
Speaker 3: he believes that Trump is like the Jewish Savior, that
Speaker 3: they literally look to him like he is the second
Speaker 3: Coming possibly and and and that's really what ties into
Speaker 3: nine to eleven in general, because he believes that the
Speaker 3: the nine to eleven, the Twin Towers falling, was a
Speaker 3: Jewish like a cult ritual that was being carried out
Speaker 3: to basically welcome in the Savior into the into the
Speaker 3: new world.
Speaker 2: And it's I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Whenever you look at all of it, it's it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, you got to be that little crackhead and
Speaker 3: in the bottom of your mama's basement with the fucking
Speaker 3: red yarn and everything. This ties to this, this ties
Speaker 3: to this, and it's like, well, I mean then you
Speaker 3: you eventually figure out like it's all connected, but who's
Speaker 3: running it? And it's like, I mean, they're kind of
Speaker 3: all rounding it, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you're you're right about Natanya who being a
Speaker 4: key player here, and you know he's entrail right now
Speaker 4: for his uh uh fraud and is criminal misdemeanors in Israel.
Speaker 4: But it would be it would be nice to see
Speaker 4: more of his involvement in nine to eleven being exposed
Speaker 4: him and Arna Milkin and he would brock and the whole,
Speaker 4: the whole lot of them. You know, they they they
Speaker 4: brought down those towers that you said we could be
Speaker 4: for this quasi religious reason, like you said, because they're
Speaker 4: they're messianic, messianic fervor. But you know we we shouldn't pay,
Speaker 4: We shouldn't pay the price for their for their for
Speaker 4: their religious free.
Speaker 3: For right, I mean, and especially just looking at the tower.
Speaker 3: You know, we call them towers, right, like there were
Speaker 3: the Twin Towers, which is a very prominent role within
Speaker 3: the occult. Towers or some people might call them pillars, right,
Speaker 3: And and that's definitely something right up the Freemason alley,
Speaker 3: right up the Kabbalistic alley. And I don't know you're
Speaker 3: bringing in the the the Jews into it. And obviously
Speaker 3: whenever you think, I don't think that your typical normal
Speaker 3: jew Is is involved in any of this kind of crap.
Speaker 3: It's the Cabbalistic ones, like the ones that are practicing
Speaker 3: the occult on a daily basis. They look at this
Speaker 3: playground as a spiritual playground and they want to be
Speaker 3: the top dogs. And I just got to say, like
Speaker 3: everybody wants to blame the Freemasons. You said it earlier, dude,
Speaker 3: Like what is the what are the Freemasons? If it's
Speaker 3: not if it's not the Kabbala? Right?
Speaker 6: And hey, we didn't say that. They said that. That's
Speaker 6: their book that says that black and white, big dog,
Speaker 6: that's not We're not para freezing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but I will.
Speaker 6: Ask you this though, one more question, sir, because everything
Speaker 6: else makes sense. I see the connections where you're making
Speaker 6: them one hundred percent. Okay, cool? What about the plane
Speaker 6: that went down in Shanksville? What is the story here?
Speaker 6: Where's the conspiracy? Hero? Is that just like the faulder
Speaker 6: to throw people off the trail? Were the calls made
Speaker 6: by the family real?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 6: Where are we drawing these from?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been to Shankstale a few times and it's
Speaker 4: a very strange situation.
Speaker 6: There.
Speaker 4: You have the In Pennsylvania, a crash sight of a
Speaker 4: car or a plane is the is the domain of
Speaker 4: the county corner at state law. In this case, the
Speaker 4: FBI came into Wally's named Wally the Corner and said, Wally,
Speaker 4: you're gonna be a team player, which meant that you
Speaker 4: will sit at an office ten miles away and answer
Speaker 4: questions while we handle the crash scene. So see, what
Speaker 4: we have is the FBI taking strong arm, strong arm
Speaker 4: and control of the of the of the crash site
Speaker 4: at all three at all three places, both the World
Speaker 4: Trade Center, Pentagon, and Shanksville. And then they had two agents,
Speaker 4: two agents recovering the remains of people. And the crash
Speaker 4: site was was far away from the you know, early
Speaker 4: reports showed the helicopter flying over the crash site. And
Speaker 4: the crash site was well in the woods. And I
Speaker 4: spoke to the family that owned those cabins out there,
Speaker 4: and they saw the records from the plane in their
Speaker 4: in their neck of the woods, so to speak. It
Speaker 4: was not in that hole in the ground, that little
Speaker 4: hole on the ground. There was nothing in that little
Speaker 4: hole in the ground. So we were being we were
Speaker 4: being deceived again. It was it was a game what
Speaker 4: what Who was on that plane? We don't know what
Speaker 4: passages around that plane, you know, because because the the
Speaker 4: FBI controlled all of the the DNA evidence and the
Speaker 4: human remains, they went from Shanksville to Dover, Dover, Delaware,
Speaker 4: where they were where they were handled by two more
Speaker 4: FBI agents, so the FBI had complete chain of custody
Speaker 4: for all the evidence all along. But I think that, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, Shanksville is is quite a mystery.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 4: I went to accounts, you know, talk about a plane,
Speaker 4: a predator, a small a small drone plane flying around there,
Speaker 4: and when I wouldn assist, he saw a plane flying
Speaker 4: upside down. But I think that it was probably one
Speaker 4: way to get rid of people that they had that
Speaker 4: were involved in the whole thing. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's Uh.
Speaker 6: I've seen reports as far as like the people on
Speaker 6: the phone calls and the family members who were uh,
Speaker 6: you know, affected because their loved one was one of
Speaker 6: the ones that made those final calls or whatever the
Speaker 6: case was. It depends on which story you're looking at,
Speaker 6: depends on which soorsu're going off of. I've seen some
Speaker 6: that say that, uh, basically everyone on the plane was
Speaker 6: bribed and they're all living somewhere and witness protection and
Speaker 6: they're they just pretty much founded new lives and they
Speaker 6: just left all of it behind and you know whatever.
Speaker 6: And to be honest, I think that might be the
Speaker 6: the happiest of the scenarios that I've heard, uh, the
Speaker 6: more likely one, in my personal opinion, is the one
Speaker 6: where they had a plane land. I want to say
Speaker 6: it was in Ohio or something like that, when all
Speaker 6: planes were down in America, right, Yeah, and this plane
Speaker 6: when it came in. And now the going story is
Speaker 6: that whoever wrote down the UH tag for this plane
Speaker 6: fat fingered it and it wasn't meant to be the
Speaker 6: correct plane that went down in Shanksville. It was meant
Speaker 6: to be one or two numbers off or something. But
Speaker 6: apparently all of the passengers were taken off of the
Speaker 6: plane and never heard from again. And if I know
Speaker 6: our shadow government as well as I think I do,
Speaker 6: it's more than likely that they were all gunned down
Speaker 6: and buried in some mass unmarked grave on government land
Speaker 6: or on a national forest or something. But you know,
Speaker 6: that's like the darkest of the theories as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard the Cleveland. The Cleveland theories are very
Speaker 4: very very dark. I've heard some of them too. But
Speaker 4: you know, we don't know, having queenand we do know
Speaker 4: that what the government told us is not is not
Speaker 4: the case that the plane's not going to that little
Speaker 4: hole in the ground, and so that knowing that, knowing
Speaker 4: that you've been lied to about a fundamental aspect of
Speaker 4: the crime, it's it's only right to investigate further and
Speaker 4: find out what really happened. Yeah, the mayor of the
Speaker 4: mayor of Cleveland has retired to his elpaca farm in
Speaker 4: central Ohio, and he was he was controlled by Sam Miller,
Speaker 4: a gangster of Cleveland, who gave him the orders to
Speaker 4: what to do and what to do at the airport
Speaker 4: that day. And it's so strange, you know that that
Speaker 4: the evidence was destroyed as the crime curd You know,
Speaker 4: you had people bringing FAA records and depositing them in
Speaker 4: garbage cans around the airport. You know, Cleveland, what happened,
Speaker 4: What happened in Cleveland, between Cleveland and Shanksville is a
Speaker 4: is a big mystery.
Speaker 6: Okay, wow, John, that what'sre you looking at?
Speaker 3: Bro? I just just researching a little bit more, trying
Speaker 3: to find the exact Trump video and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I love hearing alternative alternative theories, and
Speaker 3: I think that, to be honest with you, I'm starting
Speaker 3: to feel like your theory here might hold the most
Speaker 3: amount of water. If the paper or t leads you back,
Speaker 3: and we always say follow the money, right, and if
Speaker 3: the money is going back to a place that nobody
Speaker 3: wants to point fingers at, we can't just look the
Speaker 3: other way and say, well, there are ally they wouldn't
Speaker 3: do that, because, as you had said before, an ally
Speaker 3: would help you in war, and these people have never
Speaker 3: So I.
Speaker 2: Mean, what's an ally then?
Speaker 3: I mean, how can you even call them an ally
Speaker 3: just because it's the you know, the homeland of your savior,
Speaker 3: and not of your savior, just of the Savior, right,
Speaker 3: and yeah, and you know it's it's it's hard whenever
Speaker 3: you start getting your beliefs of a specific piece of
Speaker 3: land that you know and involved in war, like you
Speaker 3: don't want to go against that, Like you want to
Speaker 3: believe that that piece of land is holy for a reason,
Speaker 3: and it stays holy. You want to try and keep
Speaker 3: it holy. But whenever that holy place is now being
Speaker 3: governed and run by certain people who don't necessarily hold
Speaker 3: the same beliefs that you do. They want to kind
Speaker 3: of control the world possibly, and their money is spread
Speaker 3: all over the place. Yeah, man, I don't know how
Speaker 3: you can really look at that place the same anymore.
Speaker 6: You know, like, Bro, we have cult members currently on
Speaker 6: the front line in Israel right now. I am very
Speaker 6: curious what these guys are gonna have to say about
Speaker 6: this one. For any of our cult members in Israel
Speaker 6: or in Palestine, hit us up way in on this one.
Speaker 6: I would love to hear the two cents Ria for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we've had Aria. He is an Israeli soldier.
Speaker 3: Awesome dude.
Speaker 6: I durn and raised in Colorado, yep.
Speaker 3: And he was in my fantasy football league. He did
Speaker 3: pretty well. But you know, and it's like you're gonna
Speaker 3: ask a soldier what they think about the big picture.
Speaker 3: You know, they're only really seeing a smaller picture though,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I don't want to
Speaker 3: sit here and say, well, anybody who's carrying out the
Speaker 3: acts on behalf of that country is evil, dudeur our country,
Speaker 3: our government, our military has done some horrible shit. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't want somebody looking at us and say, well, we
Speaker 3: got to take them out.
Speaker 2: Look what they've done. Well, I didn't do it, you
Speaker 2: didn't do it.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: It's like one thing, one thing I need to mention
Speaker 4: is that you know, in Lebanon in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 4: the Israelis operated a terrorism organization, an network which made
Speaker 4: terrorist bombs and keyboots in the near the near the
Speaker 4: border with Lebanon, and with donkey or car brought these
Speaker 4: these bombs to rally sites of rallies, sites of political speeches,
Speaker 4: other places that they wanted to incent incentivize, and they
Speaker 4: would carry out an explosion, a terrorist explosion. If you remember,
Speaker 4: you probably remember, but Lebanon in the in the early
Speaker 4: eighties was was foul with explosion, with with bombs going off.
Speaker 4: Now this this is Raelly operation Last one ninety seventy nineteen,
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty three. This was revealed recently in a book
Speaker 4: by an Israeli journal Israeli journalist author, and the book
Speaker 4: is called rise and Kill First. It's gonna some tom mudik,
Speaker 4: you know, it's tom mudlik exhortation to kill before you
Speaker 4: get killed by your enemy. But the thing is that
Speaker 4: the this this in nineteen eighty three, there was a
Speaker 4: bombing at the Marine barracks. Be killed a lot of guys,
Speaker 4: killed more people in one bombing than anything since Iojima.
Speaker 4: Yeahs and and now this was this was the French
Speaker 4: were also hit. The American embassy was also hit. This
Speaker 4: was exactly the time that this Israeli terrorist operation was
Speaker 4: carrying out its bombs, carrying out its bombings. So this
Speaker 4: would be this would be another another example of Israel
Speaker 4: bombing American service people. In order to further an agenda.
Speaker 6: You're saying that the Beirut Lebanon Marine Barracks bombing was
Speaker 6: done by Israel.
Speaker 4: Yes, Now, if you if you read if you read
Speaker 4: the history of the nineteen eight this nineteen eighth three
Speaker 4: Barrack's bombing, you read Cass Weinberger. Casser Weinberg has said
Speaker 4: he was Secretary of Defense at the time. He said
Speaker 4: that we have no idea who did this bomb. We
Speaker 4: didn't at the time and we still don't. That's the
Speaker 4: only official claim we have from the government about knowing
Speaker 4: or not knowing who did it. We have no idea
Speaker 4: who did it. But the media has has has claimed
Speaker 4: that has Blow did it based on some journalists writing
Speaker 4: a book in London or someplace, and she claims that
Speaker 4: there's no evidence as well. But you see, this is
Speaker 4: how this is how this this kind of terrorism works.
Speaker 4: You carry out the crime, you blame it on your enemy,
Speaker 4: and the devil's in the details.
Speaker 2: Well wow, damn yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's in a book called Rise and
Speaker 4: Kill First, and it's about the group was called the
Speaker 4: Front for the Liberation of Palace, the Front for the
Speaker 4: Liberation of Lebanon from foreigners, what strange name. For four
Speaker 4: years they were blowing up, blowing up. They killed thousands
Speaker 4: of people, thousands and a lot of Americans died. And
Speaker 4: it's a matter of record now it's written by an
Speaker 4: an Israeli journalist.
Speaker 6: So are you saying that the actual practitioners of these
Speaker 6: acts were Israelis they were under the guise of acting
Speaker 6: like they were Lebanese or are you saying that they
Speaker 6: were funding and supporting the Lebanese actors? It was like
Speaker 6: a third party type situation.
Speaker 4: Well, the way the Israelis handled Lebanon is that they
Speaker 4: trained Christian cults, Christian sects, you guys from Junior up
Speaker 4: in the north the Plange. I met one person who
Speaker 4: was a He had been a participant in the massacre
Speaker 4: of Sabran Schatila camps in nineteen eighty two, I think
Speaker 4: was eighty two eighty three, where the Israelis cordoned off
Speaker 4: Palestine camps in Lebanon and then sent in the Falange,
Speaker 4: sent in the Christian mercenaries who they had trained in
Speaker 4: in Ahara in north of Israel. They had trained them
Speaker 4: to go in with knives and murder all these people.
Speaker 4: They murdered thousands of people, and it led to the
Speaker 4: downfall of the Israeli government in fact, and the largest
Speaker 4: protests in anti ward protests in Israeli history.
Speaker 6: But but.
Speaker 4: That's that's what they did, and and and that's exactly
Speaker 4: what we see going on today is the same sort
Speaker 4: of why. Yes, ask yourself, why would the Israelis? Why
Speaker 4: do they kill some many refugees. Why do they bomb
Speaker 4: refugee camps? These refugee camps are poor people, They have
Speaker 4: no money, they have no guns, they have no army.
Speaker 4: Why why killed refugees? There's the reason is because the
Speaker 4: refugees have a claim to homes in Palestine. But if
Speaker 4: you kill them, if you kill off the entire family,
Speaker 4: they cannot go back and cannot. And this is what
Speaker 4: Israel's trying to do. Is Nataia, who's trying to eliminate
Speaker 4: the claim the stakeholders to Palestine by the refugees. So
Speaker 4: they've been killing refugees worft and war from warf for war.
Speaker 4: It's never ending.
Speaker 3: So it seems like it's some sort of like a
Speaker 3: like a Zionist movement. I know that a lot of
Speaker 3: people like to throw that word out. I myself kind
Speaker 3: of get, you know, a little bit thrown off what
Speaker 3: people mean by Zionists. Jacob kind of answered it before
Speaker 3: the show that basically you believe that Israel should be
Speaker 3: considered a state, right or a country.
Speaker 6: Now there's a difference between a Zionist and a Zealot. Now,
Speaker 6: you can be both, you can be both. But a Zionist,
Speaker 6: by definition, is somebody that believes that Israel should be
Speaker 6: a nation and that the Jews should inhabit it. Now,
Speaker 6: a Zelot is somebody that believes that that should be
Speaker 6: done by any and all means necessary. There's a hard
Speaker 6: there's a line here, y'all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a Zellas are in charge.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately that is a true statement.
Speaker 4: Ben Gvie and smort Rich and then group and Zelots
Speaker 4: have always led to bad things for Israel because Zelotry
Speaker 4: is has been part of Israel israel history for a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 6: That's spoken about in all the Holy Books. It is mentioned.
Speaker 4: In the first century. They massacred two hundred thousand people
Speaker 4: in Cyprus and two hundred thousand people in leban in
Speaker 4: Libya and did terrible things. Terrible things they did, and
Speaker 4: that was the Zelots. That was from the wars between
Speaker 4: the Zelots and the Romans.
Speaker 6: M hm, you know, which eventually led to them being
Speaker 6: expelled and from their homeland in seventy a d. Which
Speaker 6: is when they were cast to the winds for the
Speaker 6: final time, if you will, Which is why it was
Speaker 6: such a big deal when the nation of Israel was
Speaker 6: finally founded again after you know, over fifteen hundred years
Speaker 6: or whatever, and.
Speaker 4: Jews were banned from Cyprus, yeah, after the massacre.
Speaker 6: Which is crazy because that, yeah, that that whole area
Speaker 6: has actually got a really dense Jewish population. I think
Speaker 6: today it does, or I'm thinking crete maybe, but I know,
Speaker 6: like all of those Greek speaking Mediterranean countries like that,
Speaker 6: they all kind of got a big influx when they
Speaker 6: were expelled from there. From Israel. Italy too, yeah, Italy
Speaker 6: as well, which the Jews took off, the Ashkenazi Jews
Speaker 6: that took off to Europe. Good God, it seemed like
Speaker 6: every time a new person took charge. They just started
Speaker 6: slaughtering Jews. Y'all ever heard about what happen when King
Speaker 6: Richard the Lionheart took the throne. The first order of
Speaker 6: business was to go kill two thousand Jews, like just because,
Speaker 6: and then he launched his crusade. It was like it
Speaker 6: was like a pep talk. There was like a warm
Speaker 6: up round, if you will. They just slaughtered the Jews
Speaker 6: in London and then took off to Jerusalem for Christ
Speaker 6: and shit, wild things.
Speaker 3: You know, we've talked about it on this show before.
Speaker 3: I kind of just want to get your opinion on
Speaker 3: this while we're at it. We've talked a couple of
Speaker 3: times before about the possibility of the escaton or for
Speaker 3: those that don't know what the eskaton is, it would
Speaker 3: just be kind of like a fake carrying out, a
Speaker 3: manufacturer carrying out of what is the of what was
Speaker 3: prophesied right in times. Yeah, like it's essentially a fake
Speaker 3: end times to carry out whatever kind of agenda that
Speaker 3: they're trying to push forward. And to be honest, dude,
Speaker 3: after listening to this, if all this is true, I
Speaker 3: don't think it would be that crazy that they would
Speaker 3: be carrying it out carrying out an escaton, right, like
Speaker 3: carrying out a fake end Times.
Speaker 4: And a lot of our presidents have believed in end
Speaker 4: times as a as as a as a fact, like
Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan, and they believe that they believe in this
Speaker 4: end times, you know, and so that a lot of
Speaker 4: them are acting in the Middle East with armageddon in
Speaker 4: the back of their mind.
Speaker 3: Damn Yeah, it's just wild, dude. I mean, it's in
Speaker 3: my opinion, it's religious extremism. That's how I look at
Speaker 3: it personally.
Speaker 6: But what if it's not fake? What if it actually
Speaker 6: is the end Times coming upon us and it's not
Speaker 6: being manufactured, it's being fulfilled. What if that is in
Speaker 6: fact the case.
Speaker 2: That's probably what they're hoping you think, you know, Like
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 6: I'm saying the what ifs. This is the show to
Speaker 6: ask the questions. Right We're talking about it being fake
Speaker 6: and gay and all these things, for sure, But what
Speaker 6: if what is the gay? What if this is real?
Speaker 6: What if this the rebuilding of the Temple and all
Speaker 6: this shit is actually going to bring about the end times?
Speaker 6: Not just because they say so, but because there it's
Speaker 6: actually one plus one equals two.
Speaker 3: Does the end Times mean the end of this cycle
Speaker 3: and onto a new one or end times meaning complete
Speaker 3: done with people and earth.
Speaker 6: And is that what you mean that? Yeah, like the
Speaker 6: Lord's coming back and the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think that that's gonna get carried out
Speaker 2: here soon? Christopher? Is that a belief of yours?
Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, whenever these wars come along,
Speaker 4: I I would look at the prophecies, what they what
Speaker 4: they say about you know, when when we started to
Speaker 4: go to get a war in Iraq in two thousand
Speaker 4: and two thousand, two thousand and three, and even before that,
Speaker 4: I would I don't know, but I can tell you
Speaker 4: that beliefs are very very dangerous things can be. Can
Speaker 4: you know we have in America today millions of people
Speaker 4: who believe that Israel has a right to do whatever
Speaker 4: it wants to do. And and this this Christian zion
Speaker 4: and support for Israel is it could be a dangerous
Speaker 4: thing because it, you know, like I said, it means
Speaker 4: that we have a relationship with Israel that's not based
Speaker 4: on what's in our best interest, but what some people
Speaker 4: believe to be true.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of Christians in America don't
Speaker 6: understand how Christians and Israel are treated like that. A
Speaker 6: lot of I think it's out of ignorance, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean. That's why they had this this diehard
Speaker 6: loyalty to Israel because the narrative has said so on
Speaker 6: the one side, but on the other they don't actually
Speaker 6: understand the situation on the ground. For most of their
Speaker 6: Christian brothers and sisters in Israel, they are they're seen
Speaker 6: as basically second class citizens. They're forced to live in
Speaker 6: slums of the areas that in which they're allowed to live.
Speaker 6: They can't get certain jobs, like it's not it's not
Speaker 6: like a fun time if you're a follower of Christ
Speaker 6: and you live in his hometown.
Speaker 2: You know, it's almost like gays for Palestine. It almost
Speaker 2: makes no sense.
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, tel Aviv, you want to talk about
Speaker 6: not making sense? Tel Aviv is in fact the most
Speaker 6: homosexual city on the earth, and somehow they want that's talking.
Speaker 4: The fact that that Christians are spit at, are sped upon. Yeah,
Speaker 4: who was in Jerusalem. That's that's not very cool.
Speaker 6: It's not and that's still happening today. And so many
Speaker 6: Christians in this country that are they're screaming the rhetoric
Speaker 6: of the things on the stuff. Don't even know that.
Speaker 6: They have never looked at it, They never thought of
Speaker 6: looking at it. People need to be more well traveled.
Speaker 4: In My opinion is that our government has aligned itself
Speaker 4: with this Natanyahu government. Do you know that that under
Speaker 4: Joe Biden, Joe Biden gave Israel something like fourteen billion
Speaker 4: dollars to cover the cost of the war, which means
Speaker 4: that the cost, all the costs that Israel's incurred from
Speaker 4: his from his illegal invasion of Gaza is being paid
Speaker 4: for by the US taxpayer. We're paying for their war.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a whole argument to say that we
Speaker 6: funded the terrorist attack in the first place. We made
Speaker 6: some deal with Iran for six billion dollars. Next thing
Speaker 6: you know, the terrorist group comes up with all these
Speaker 6: money and resources and then they launched their invasion. Where
Speaker 6: did they get that from? It was, oddly enough, US dollars.
Speaker 4: The thing about the October seventh crime is that it
Speaker 4: was it was Haines's crime, no doubt about it. But right,
Speaker 4: But what's not been discus us is that he's done
Speaker 4: another George Bush on that he said that there will
Speaker 4: be investigation when the war is over. That's what Dick
Speaker 4: Cheney said. They'll be investigation when the war is over,
Speaker 4: because they don't want investigation because the investigation would find
Speaker 4: that many of the victims were killed by Israeli friendly fire.
Speaker 4: Israeli tanks went in there and helicopters were in there,
Speaker 4: and they were they were shooting everything that moved. So
Speaker 4: all those cars were buried. Those cars were those cars
Speaker 4: were those burned out cars were chopped in with little
Speaker 4: pieces and buried. Why because they all had they all
Speaker 4: had a missile hole through this through the roof. Nothing
Speaker 4: that nothing that those boys from gods that could have done,
Speaker 4: but a patche helicopter would zero in on each car
Speaker 4: and hit it. Killed lots of people, and they were
Speaker 4: Israelis that we're there. Talked about it very clearly on
Speaker 4: day day one, Day two, this woman was very clear
Speaker 4: talked about how is really true. Tanks are outside and
Speaker 4: they fired out the house and killed everybody except for her.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's it's not a mystery. But it
Speaker 4: was necessary for a natime yahoo to wage his war.
Speaker 4: He needed to have his own nine to one one.
Speaker 4: He needed to have a crime that he could blame
Speaker 4: on an atrocity that would give him the moral authority
Speaker 4: to wage heinous, genocidal wars against Lebanon and Syria Palestine,
Speaker 4: you know, And it's like, it boggles my mind that
Speaker 4: people in America don't understand the degree of cruelty that's
Speaker 4: being inflicted on the people of Palestine. And they're being
Speaker 4: you know, killed in hospital beds, they're being burned alive.
Speaker 4: It's something we don't want to be involved in this.
Speaker 4: And if we are involved in this in order to
Speaker 4: bring us closer to some sort of end times, it's
Speaker 4: it's sick. It's really sick because it's it's pure evil.
Speaker 4: It's pure evil. But you know nine eleven was done
Speaker 4: for the same reason and and we're looking at it
Speaker 4: all over again, the same sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Man, We are living in such wild times, dude, Like
Speaker 3: this this is going to be like over the span
Speaker 3: the last like four or five years, which interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: has been about the duration that we've kind of done
Speaker 3: this show, right, Like, so we kind.
Speaker 6: Of chose a really weird time to get into it,
Speaker 6: but boy, it was a good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we literally started it four and a half
Speaker 3: years ago, and in four and a half years. We
Speaker 3: can't even catch up to all of the older stuff,
Speaker 3: like twenty eleven or two thousand and one. Rather, it's
Speaker 3: like we ain't got time to really get to these
Speaker 3: certain things nowadays, because every single day there's something going on,
Speaker 3: whether it's COVID, or it's drones, or it's orbs, or
Speaker 3: it's this, or it's that, it's like or the presidency,
Speaker 3: you know, the whole thing. It is just absolute chaos
Speaker 3: the world we live in right now. You living over
Speaker 3: in Europe right now, are you experiencing like chaos with
Speaker 3: the news networks over there?
Speaker 2: Or is it pretty? Is it a little bit more chill?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably a lot more chill. The the media
Speaker 4: is and so isn't quite so extreme. But but they
Speaker 4: have they have the same problems here as the United
Speaker 4: States is having. But they're they're worried about what Donald
Speaker 4: Trump is gonna bring.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't mean to give too much information,
Speaker 6: but are you able to say which country you're in?
Speaker 4: Sweden?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 6: Trump actually has kind of a soft spot for Sweden,
Speaker 6: honestly enough, So y'all aren't hearing a lot of hate
Speaker 6: rhetoric on the news too much? But a lot of.
Speaker 4: Hate rhetoric. Hate rhetoric is all focused against against Russia.
Speaker 6: Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: It's a close neighbor of Sweden.
Speaker 6: And Sweden's military is more set up for defense anyway,
Speaker 6: specifically for the attention of if Russia was to invade.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, they're having a little problem defending
Speaker 4: their their underwater cables.
Speaker 6: Though, Yeah, well so does most of Europe was gonna
Speaker 6: cut all the time. Yeah, I gotta that your stream
Speaker 6: pipeline or what was those uh, those fiber optic cables
Speaker 6: that ran from Europe to America. That whoops.
Speaker 4: They knocked out a power cable yesterday from going from
Speaker 4: Finland to Estonia. But they stopped a Chinese vessel that
Speaker 4: they reckon. A Russian vessel that they reckon was involved
Speaker 4: in a dragon anchor across it.
Speaker 6: And in Estonia. Aren't those both new NATO members? Yeah,
Speaker 6: how fascinating.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And and the and the the former prime Minister
Speaker 4: of Estonia is now head of the foreign policy for
Speaker 4: the European Union. You know that.
Speaker 6: I didn't know that. Yeah, Estonia is very similar to
Speaker 6: what Ukraine was about six years ago. Just everybody knows
Speaker 6: all the good cult members. Estonia is was very much
Speaker 6: like the Wild West, like some ship that needed to
Speaker 6: happen illegally on US turf but could totally happen on
Speaker 6: Estonian turf, Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of American tree there, and
Speaker 4: they there's a real strong anti anti Russian. But if
Speaker 4: they have they have a fifty percent of the people
Speaker 4: living in the heads the chief cities talent are Russians. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you know, you got you got ethnic questions. You
Speaker 4: have to be have to be diplomatic about how you
Speaker 4: deal with these situations. The the Ukrainian thing was much
Speaker 4: more criminal, complot criminal operation carried out by the the
Speaker 4: family of Victoria Newland and the Kagans. Yeah, they run
Speaker 4: they run the they run the Eurasian policies out of
Speaker 4: the White out of the State Department. And Victoria Kagan
Speaker 4: is the one who's who who who brought the uprising
Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, installed the anti Russian prime minister and
Speaker 4: got us to the war. As soon as the war
Speaker 4: got going, she retired. But these are again members of
Speaker 4: the tribe and full on, full on neo cons.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, we can't we can't have
Speaker 4: people like that craft in US policy, US policy, US policy,
Speaker 4: if is so, is so flawed. I mean, we've we've
Speaker 4: lost every war we've been in since since since well
Speaker 4: since World War Two.
Speaker 6: I guess that's arguable. I would say I would losing.
Speaker 4: Well, we haven't. We haven't. We haven't. We haven't really
Speaker 4: defined our what the victory would look like. In Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: We certainly didn't win Afghanistan. We didn't win in Iraq.
Speaker 6: That's me career. We'll say we won Vietnam. People don't
Speaker 6: want to acknowledge that. But the Vietnamese, the viet Cong
Speaker 6: actually did sign the peace treaty. They went back on
Speaker 6: that and that's why we had to go back and
Speaker 6: get all of our people out of the embassy two
Speaker 6: years later. But on paper, we did in fact win
Speaker 6: the Vietnam War. But I know it's more of a
Speaker 6: puic victory here. I mean, what, Yeah, we won, but
Speaker 6: at the cost of what so I mean, I get
Speaker 6: your point.
Speaker 4: The people who won are again the people who make
Speaker 4: the wars and make the finance the wars, and make
Speaker 4: the weapons LBJ exactly LBJ in generodynamics.
Speaker 6: Yep, Lady Bird, for anybody who wants to look at
Speaker 6: the family ties of Ladybird Johnson to the military industrial complex.
Speaker 6: It's not a hard Google search, right.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I appreciate you coming and hanging out with
Speaker 3: us for as long as you did. We we didn't
Speaker 3: expect it, but we do appreciate your time, sir, And
Speaker 3: we appreciate all the good work that you've done in
Speaker 3: exposing what it is that you are exposing, and the
Speaker 3: fact that you're still doing it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's awesome man. And and so we appreciate
Speaker 2: your time.
Speaker 3: And if you would, could you tell all of our
Speaker 3: good cult members where they'd be able to find you
Speaker 3: and your work.
Speaker 4: Well, if my website is Boiling dot com b O
Speaker 4: L l y N dot com, and it was done
Speaker 4: for a while, but I think it's back up now.
Speaker 4: And my books are called Solving nine to eleven The
Speaker 4: Deception to Change the World. There's another book about the
Speaker 4: originalarticles because I have been writing and wrote a lot
Speaker 4: of articles about living and uh. The little book is
Speaker 4: called The War on Terrorism, The Plot to Rule the
Speaker 4: Middle East.
Speaker 2: So that's it, the Plot to roll the Middle East.
Speaker 3: Wow, all right, I do have one more question, since
Speaker 3: I am a huge fan of your fish out there,
Speaker 3: the Swedish fish?
Speaker 2: Is it better there than it is over in America?
Speaker 2: I gotta know.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not from Washington State or Alaska, but if
Speaker 4: I think that the the quality of the fish and
Speaker 4: Pacific Ocean is superior.
Speaker 6: Of the little red candies, the Swedish fish, Oh.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite right there.
Speaker 4: I don't know the candies.
Speaker 3: Damn, that's the only fish I like. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: say that, the gummy type, the gummy Swedish fish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I know what.
Speaker 4: The King salmon, Copper Copper River, Alaska. That's that's what
Speaker 4: the best you can get.
Speaker 3: Hell, you worn all right? Well, like we said, we
Speaker 3: appreciate you time, Christopher. We would love to do it
Speaker 3: again at some point. You feel free to reach out
Speaker 3: to us whenever you're ready to go again, and we
Speaker 3: would love to have.
Speaker 2: You again, of course. Uh, Jacob, can we get a
Speaker 2: couple knie fans up in here, dude?
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