1 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:31,039 Speaker 1: Well, Hi, how are you welcome to the Big Podcast. 2 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,079 It is Tuesday. Today is the first day of July, 3 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,359 year of our Lord twenty twenty five. My name is 4 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:41,920 Tom Sullivan, and kind of a different day. Today We've 5 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,600 got well, the Big Beautiful Bill. After all the arm 6 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:50,960 twisting and everything else going on, it passed the Senate. 7 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:52,840 So now it has to go back to the House 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,960 and the House is going to try and have committee 9 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,640 meetings this afternoon and then vote on the floor of 10 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,640 the House tomorrow. There's always going to be people that say, 11 00:01:05,719 --> 00:01:09,480 I'm not voting for it, so that well, let me 12 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,120 give you just a little bit of a glance at 13 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:14,519 the Big Beautiful Bill, because I don't even know what's 14 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,959 in it. It's it's just about a thousand pages long. 15 00:01:17,079 --> 00:01:20,200 I doubt that many of the people involved in voting 16 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,760 for this actually read it. But there was three Republicans 17 00:01:25,359 --> 00:01:30,680 who voted against it, Ran Paul, Tom Tillis, and Susan Collins. 18 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:37,959 So that meant that jd Vance, the Vice President, had 19 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,599 to cast a tie breaking vote. So it passed with 20 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,560 one tie breaking vote to spare go back to the House, 21 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:53,200 where it also a different version passed by one vote. 22 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:56,560 This version the one the Senate is sending back to 23 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:58,840 them is the one the House sent to the Senate, 24 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:02,319 and the Senate has added six hundred and fifty one 25 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:08,319 billion dollars more of spending to the bill that now 26 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,840 goes back to the House, and they were having kittens 27 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,800 about even passing what they passed. So at this point, 28 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:24,599 I don't know how you feel about this. I I'm 29 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:32,319 frustrated nobody's talking about cutting. Republicans when they were not 30 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,400 in power used to always go after the Democrats as 31 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:39,759 the tax and spend party, and it looks to me 32 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,400 like the Republicans have signed on to the tax and 33 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:50,000 spend party. Elon Musk is not happy, and once again 34 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,960 the feud between he and the president has exploded again. 35 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:01,080 And Elon Musk is ripping this saying that he will 36 00:03:01,759 --> 00:03:07,840 campaign with his checkbook on anybody who voted for this 37 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:14,000 bill because he thinks it is financially a detrimental to 38 00:03:14,039 --> 00:03:17,560 the future of our country. He says, if you vote 39 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,599 for this thing, I'm going to use my checkbook and 40 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,879 find somebody to primary you, and I will get somebody 41 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:32,199 else elected. Meantime, the President has threatened to primary any 42 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,840 Republican if they did not vote for the bill. So 43 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,560 now you have if you're a Republican in the House 44 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,000 or the Senate, and you basically have two things basing you. 45 00:03:45,879 --> 00:03:49,479 Elon Musk will come after you with somebody to take 46 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,560 your seat if you vote for this bill. Donald Trump 47 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:57,280 will come after you somebody to take your seat if 48 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,479 you don't vote for the bill. So maybe maybe that's 49 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,439 why Tom tell us yesterday through in the towel and 50 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:08,800 said I'm not running again, because he's looking at all 51 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,240 this and thinking this is just not a good way 52 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,360 to run business. Speaking of not a good way to 53 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,079 run business. So they started a debate on this big, 54 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,480 beautiful bill yesterday at nine o'clock in the morning Eastern time. 55 00:04:21,639 --> 00:04:26,879 They went all through yesterday with the Vodama. They went 56 00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:31,480 all through the night, they went all through half of 57 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:35,439 the day today. They finished around noon today. Can you 58 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,319 imagine running a business where everybody stays to try to 59 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,040 figure out how to make important decisions about the business 60 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:48,959 for an all nighter. I was never good at all 61 00:04:49,079 --> 00:04:52,600 nighters when I was in college. I would not No, 62 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,160 I couldn't do this. I don't know how they do it. 63 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:59,839 It really looks bad. So they've added more to the 64 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,879 goes back to the House. House is racing this afternoon 65 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,079 and tonight and tomorrow morning to try to get all 66 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,720 the various committees that have to pass there say so, 67 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,399 and then it goes to the floor of the House theoretically, 68 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:22,560 but there are a number of Republicans in the House 69 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,519 that are not happy about this. And for example, the 70 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,800 guy who is the head of the Freedom Caucus, his 71 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,120 name is Andy Harris. He is a Republican representing one 72 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,560 of the districts in Maryland, and he doesn't want to 73 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:44,759 vote for this thing at all. He's the head of 74 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,279 the Freedom Caucus in the House. 75 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:50,199 Speaker 2: This is not ready for prime time. We support the 76 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:52,920 president's agenda. The president's agenda was not to raise the 77 00:05:52,959 --> 00:05:55,680 deficit by three quarters of a trillion dollars over the 78 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,519 next ten years. The bottom line is now the House 79 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:00,240 is going to have it set and this is not 80 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,399 going to sail through the House. We're going to have 81 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:04,759 to negotiate with the Senate one more time. And that's 82 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,319 just appropriate. That's the way the legislative process works and 83 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,600 the way it should work on a bill of this size. 84 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:13,519 Speaker 1: Which brings up another point, which is the deadline they're 85 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,680 racing this through. They raced it through yesterday, last night, today, 86 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:19,800 and then tonight they're doing They're doing the House version, 87 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,560 going through the committees tomorrow. Race race, race to get 88 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,120 a vote on the floor of the House so that 89 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,879 there can be a signing ceremony on Friday, which is 90 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,639 the fourth of July. There's no requirement that this be 91 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,839 done before the end of the year, before the end 92 00:06:37,879 --> 00:06:40,160 of at least the end of the fiscal year, so 93 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:46,040 this July fourth deadline is just made up for political purposes. 94 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,160 They want to have some sort of you know, put 95 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:53,879 your hand over your heart, patriotic signing ceremony for this 96 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:58,800 huge bill, which depending upon who you listen to, it 97 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,040 ranges from the CBO saying it will add three point 98 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:11,759 three billion to our national debt. Democrats say it'll add 99 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:17,160 over five is it trillion? Yeah, forgive me, this will 100 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,680 add three point three trillion to our national debt, and 101 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,879 the House or the Republicans they will add five trillion 102 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,519 to the national debt. If I can remind you of 103 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,879 a previous president by the name of Joseph R. Biden Junior, 104 00:07:36,079 --> 00:07:41,040 who added trillions of dollars to the debt and what happened. 105 00:07:41,519 --> 00:07:44,839 We wound up with inflation taking off and going up 106 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:48,319 to over nine and a half percent, and most economists 107 00:07:48,319 --> 00:07:54,759 pointed to the massive increase in government spending. So we're 108 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,920 doing the same thing again now. Three years ago, people 109 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,639 we're griping about Joe Biden and spending in Congress and 110 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,199 how it led to inflation and how it harmed you 111 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:09,399 and your family and your pocketbook. And now here we 112 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,680 are in twenty twenty five, adding trillions of dollars to 113 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,759 the budget, and everybody's fine with it. Not everybody ran 114 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:24,639 Paul tom tell Us, Susan Collins are saying no, and 115 00:08:24,639 --> 00:08:30,480 Andy Harris is saying no. So this this is not 116 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,759 going over real. Well, Scott Besant, who is a Treasury secretary, 117 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,200 he's part of he's Donald Trump's Treasury secretary. Of course 118 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,840 he has to be positive about this. 119 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: This is a deal for working people because what we 120 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:52,120 have is President Trump's twenty seventeen tax bill, and we 121 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,320 are overlaying that with the President's campaign promises, no tax 122 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,559 on tips, no tax on overtime, the lower tax on 123 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,679 Social Security, and tax deductibility of American made carters. Those 124 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,279 sound like working class tax breaks to me. So the 125 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,120 first part of the africle is important to go back to. 126 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,399 He said, we're taking Donald Trump's tax bill from twenty 127 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,559 seventeen and just overlaying it with these promises that he 128 00:09:19,639 --> 00:09:22,440 made in this last campaign about no tax on tips, 129 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,159 no tax on overtime. It didn't turn out to be exactly. 130 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,519 I have to wait to see what the final version says. 131 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:32,080 But no taxes on Social Security isn't in the bill. 132 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:35,039 What instead they're doing is giving some sort of I 133 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:37,919 think six thousand dollars credit was the last one I saw, 134 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,200 But don't hold me to that, because again, this thing 135 00:09:40,279 --> 00:09:43,559 is still being It's still in the sausage maker being made, 136 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:50,440 the grinders grinding it out. But it is not a 137 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:55,600 tax cut. The Republicans say this is the biggest tax 138 00:09:55,639 --> 00:10:00,799 cut ever, and the Republican or the Demo rat say 139 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,799 taxes are going to go up. This is the biggest 140 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:03,600 tax increase ever. 141 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,919 Speaker 1: All it is is taking the previous tax bill, which 142 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,360 was passed in Trump one point zero. They're adding on 143 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,000 some of the things that Trump promised in the latest campaign, 144 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,559 But basically that bill was going to expire by the 145 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,480 end of this year, which if they did not pass 146 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:29,679 something to basically extend the old rules. Then your taxes 147 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,240 would have gone way up at the end of this year. 148 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:36,080 So this is not You're not going to notice any 149 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,080 tax increase or tax decrease because it's basically an extension 150 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,759 of what they passed back in twenty seventeen. It's all 151 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:51,279 it is. Plus they added on the tips the overtime 152 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,879 the Social Security US made car stuff like that. So 153 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,320 there's the bill. We have to wait until tomorrow to 154 00:11:00,399 --> 00:11:03,639 find out if this thing runs into a meat grinder 155 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,600 or whether that actually turns out to be some sort 156 00:11:06,639 --> 00:11:09,200 of law. Oh and one more thing to add to this, 157 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:13,080 by the way, the big every time a Democrat is interviewed, 158 00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:16,080 you will see they start off with this is going 159 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,840 to cut people on Medicare, and they go through grandma's 160 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,639 to babies, to all this other stuff. It's not Medicare, 161 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:30,480 it's Medicaid, and Medicaid has an enormous number of people 162 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,519 depend Again amoun whose estimate it is, but it's a 163 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,440 huge number of people that are not eligible for Medicaid 164 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,279 that are basically milking the system and they're just they're 165 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,639 playing along. So what this bill is supposed to do 166 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:53,080 is say, if you are ell, if you are able 167 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,399 to go to work, you have to have a job. 168 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,919 If you're going to get medicaid, you can't sit at 169 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,879 home and get free medical and that's what people have 170 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:06,440 been doing. Will people lose their medical benefits. It's supposed 171 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:12,120 to be only the ineligible people, but eligible people that 172 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:20,480 are you know, of poverty level, have a dependent, a 173 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,639 child that depends that depends on them. They don't have 174 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,639 to go to work. Everybody else needs to go to work. 175 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,720 And it's so it was you know, it's going to 176 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:34,080 catch some people. You're going to see stories about some 177 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:36,639 graandmar or some baby that got cut off on their 178 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:41,879 medical benefits. But it's designed to basically, just like welfare 179 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:46,360 reform in the nineteen nineties, gets the malingerers off of medicaid. 180 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:49,480 That's costing his billions of dollars. So that brings up 181 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:53,519 the fight with Elon. Elon says he's going to back off. 182 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,759 He got mad yesterday, but now that the bill has 183 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,799 gone through the Senate, he can see it's a losing deal. 184 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,759 He's not going to get this thing to be stalled. 185 00:13:02,759 --> 00:13:05,919 He tried to stop it and he could not. Elon's 186 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,399 a very smart guy, but he's not politically smart. And 187 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,320 the other part about Elon is that he says that 188 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,360 he's going to start a third party because everybody that 189 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,080 belonged that votes for this should belong to the Porky 190 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,639 Pig Party. And I like the name, the Porky Pig Party. 191 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,960 You old enough to remember the cartoons Porky Pig. Anyway, 192 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,279 that would be nice, except for I don't think that's 193 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:42,799 going to happen either. It's simply Republicans don't agree with 194 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,480 each other. You've got the Mega and you've got the 195 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,320 old establishment Republicans. They don't agree with each other on 196 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,559 what to do. The Democrats they have the far left, 197 00:13:53,639 --> 00:13:57,399 the squad, and they've got the more traditional Democrats. They 198 00:13:57,399 --> 00:14:00,799 don't agree with each other. Okay, we need to get 199 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:02,840 our financial house in order. Okay, how are you going 200 00:14:02,919 --> 00:14:05,399 to do that? Well, why don't we raise taxes? No? 201 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,240 Why don't we cut spending? Well, if you're going to 202 00:14:08,279 --> 00:14:10,000 cut spending, where you're going to cut I want. I 203 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,360 don't want to cut that or or that, but I'll 204 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:15,879 cut over here. No, you can't cut there. How about 205 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,279 raising taxes on? Oh, the wealthy? That's always a good 206 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:25,000 never happens. So it's we're never going to agree where 207 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:28,200 we already. We don't need a third party to do that. 208 00:14:28,799 --> 00:14:32,240 We already disagree with each other, even not only between 209 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,799 Republican and the Democrats, but within the parties themselves. And furthermore, 210 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:44,600 Donald Trump is more popular with Republicans than he has 211 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:50,000 ever been. Harry Enton, the statistician over at CNN, this 212 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,759 is the latest read that he has on the popularity 213 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:55,960 by Republicans of Donald Trump. 214 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so we're going to look at the strongly 215 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:02,200 approved numbers. Now, this isn't Republicans who like Donald Trump. 216 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:06,000 This is Republicans who love Donald Trump. And he's up 217 00:15:06,039 --> 00:15:08,320 like a rocket. Look at this. In July twenty seventeen, 218 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,639 the strongly approved with fifty three percent. That's pretty good. 219 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,600 But look at where he is now. Sixty three percent 220 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:17,240 of Republicans strongly approve of the job that Donald Trump 221 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:21,639 is doing about five months into his presidency. Republicans love 222 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,600 Donald Trump the way that Americans love Disney World. The 223 00:15:25,639 --> 00:15:29,120 bottom line is sixty three percent. That is a huge, 224 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,200 huge base. And of course it's just part of a 225 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,039 Republican base in which about ninety percent of them overall 226 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,759 approof of him, including the somewhat approves as well. It's 227 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:39,519 history making. It's history making. What are we talking about here? 228 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:41,159 So why don't we look back? We have all the 229 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,279 president's Republican presidents going back over the last thirty five, 230 00:15:45,399 --> 00:15:47,360 thirty six, thirty seven years. What are we talking about 231 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,919 GOP who strongly approved five months? And look at this 232 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,720 George HW. Bush Bush forty one, forty six percent, Bush 233 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:56,559 forty three, fifty nine. You see Trump the first term 234 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,559 fifty three. But look at this sixty three percent. 235 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: It's all the other. 236 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: Republicans on the board here. And I was looking even 237 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,960 back since Reagan, and get this, Donald Trump beats Ronald 238 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,320 Reagan when it comes to the strongly approved five months. 239 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,279 And of course Reagan was coming off dot high after 240 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,440 that assassination attempt. So the bottom line is Donald Trump 241 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,799 is making history with the Republican base. He is more 242 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:23,320 beloved by this Republican base than any Republican base loved 243 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,960 any GOP president five months. And it is history. 244 00:16:27,159 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: Make it. 245 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: So you know the bottom line is, if you're a 246 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Republican lawmaker, you see this sixty three percent, you say, 247 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,559 my goodness, gracious, you do not want to go against 248 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,799 Don Trump because the Republican base is with Don Trump. 249 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,320 And it's not just a polling. We actually have the 250 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,720 data to show that the Republican base is with Donald Trump. 251 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:46,679 The times Trump endorsees won the GOP primary for governor 252 00:16:46,759 --> 00:16:49,399 and congressional races. Look at this twenty twenty four ninety 253 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:53,600 six percent, twenty two twenty twenty ninety eight percent. The 254 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:56,879 bottom line is this ninety five percent plus of the 255 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,759 time that Trump endorsed candidate wins in GOP primers, and 256 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,320 even in the cases where Donald Trump endorses a challenger 257 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:06,759 to an incumbent, the majority of time that challenger wins. 258 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,839 So Donald Trump is a winner in Republican primers. You 259 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,440 go against Donald Trump. To quote the movie Good Burger, 260 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:16,640 you go in the grinder. Donald Trump is the key nugget. 261 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,200 His endorsement is the key not going to a GOP 262 00:17:18,279 --> 00:17:21,359 primary because he's historically strongly popular with the GOP. 263 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: So even though he's, like Harry pointed out, those aren't 264 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,799 people who just like Donald Trump. Those are the people 265 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:31,559 that just love him. So he has an incredible popularity 266 00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:34,799 and he's riding it for everything he can. That doesn't 267 00:17:34,839 --> 00:17:37,759 mean all Republicans are going to salute and fall in line. 268 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,400 Chip Roy from Texas keeps fighting him. Here's what he 269 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,039 had to say. 270 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 5: The Senate right now is messing up the bill and 271 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:48,400 risking the whole thing. This is the Senate wanting to 272 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,240 try to save some for their home states, like Senator 273 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:55,240 Murkowski for Alaska, trying to get giveaways to perpetuate the 274 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,440 Medicaid money laundering scam in Alaska. I think this is 275 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,319 a travesty that the Senate is going to risk the 276 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,519 ability of us to deliver for the American people. 277 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: So, speaking of the President, he did a little midday 278 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,720 trip down to Florida. He went down to this new 279 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,680 Alligator alcatraz. YEP, that's what they're calling it. It is 280 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,799 a new facility and that has been built in the Everglades, 281 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:30,119 and there is a ten mile radius for it's all 282 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,599 Everglades around for ten miles around this particular new detention facility. 283 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,200 It's a detention facility to process illegals. They have the 284 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,720 President flu right in there on Air Force One. So 285 00:18:43,759 --> 00:18:49,559 there's a They've got a nice airport, nice nice runway there. 286 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:55,000 It will hold three thousand people. There's three thousand beds. 287 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:58,839 The idea is to process illegals there and then fly 288 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,480 them out directly out of that facility to some other country. 289 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,599 And the Florida National Guard is apparently going to be 290 00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:10,319 involved somehow in running this. So Governor DeSantis was there, 291 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:16,799 the President was there. They went down the alligator alley. Uh, 292 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,279 here's the President talking about it today? Was he was 293 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:23,799 he was trying to teach people how to run away 294 00:19:23,799 --> 00:19:27,000 from an alligator. Here he is taking questions from the 295 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:30,400 media at Alligator Alcatraz. 296 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: But the alligator alca says, it's the idea that it's 297 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,880 told them it's a life grate teeth. 298 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 6: They didn't get a final I guess that's the concept. 299 00:19:40,759 --> 00:19:43,799 This is not a nice business. I guess that's the concept. 300 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:48,160 If you you know, uh, snakes are fast, but alligators. 301 00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 7: But we're going to teach them how to run away 302 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,480 from an allegantory Okay, if they escaped prison, how to 303 00:19:54,599 --> 00:19:57,720 run away. Don't run in a straight line, run like this, 304 00:19:58,039 --> 00:20:00,880 and you know what, your chances go off about one percent. 305 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,079 Not a good thing. 306 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, your chance if you run like he was pointing 307 00:20:07,839 --> 00:20:10,880 out back and forth, that your chances of getting away 308 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,480 from the alligator would go up about one percent. This 309 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:20,359 reminds me remember Sheriff Joe Arpio in Maricopa County, Arizona 310 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,119 and Sheriff Joe, Oh my gosh, she was in trouble 311 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,160 all the time. They were suing him, and he just 312 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,799 fought back the whole way. He had a prison in America, 313 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:35,359 Copa County that was a tent city, and we're talking Phoenix, 314 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,880 we're talking one hundred and twenty in the summer, it's unbearable, 315 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,920 and he had everybody in pink, pink underwear that they 316 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,519 had to wear, and so he got sued over that, 317 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,119 and he still kept him in pink underwear. They sued 318 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,720 him because they had nothing to do, so they wanted 319 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:59,680 to have TVs put in, So Sheriff Joe put in 320 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:05,359 televisions with only one channel, the Weather Channel. That was it. 321 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,160 So they're out there in their pink underwear in tent 322 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:13,359 city in Arizona with the Weather channel as they're only 323 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,240 a source of entertainment. Then he got sued over and 324 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:19,200 over again. But the last time I looked, it's been 325 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,319 shut down now because the new sheriff didn't keep it going. 326 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,519 Our pile was a character kind of like Trump, and 327 00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:32,519 he he had that prison going for I think about 328 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:35,559 twenty five years. So they fought him the whole way, 329 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:38,480 and he just fought right back. So now we got 330 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:43,440 Alligator Alcatraz and we'll see how that will. That'll be 331 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,599 a processing center for the illegals that are rounded up 332 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,559 by ice. So why the media was throwing questions at 333 00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:57,319 the president. They also asked him about Zoran Man Dammy, 334 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,680 the guy who was getting all the men. He won 335 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,200 the Democrat primary election for New York mayor. He still 336 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,599 has to face off in the fall. But they asked 337 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:13,519 Donald Trump about Man, Danny Man, Danny Trouble, and this 338 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,400 is what the President had to say. Why. 339 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 7: I think he's terrible. He's a communist. The last thing 340 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,480 we need is a communist. I said, there will never 341 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:27,440 be socialism in the United States. Tell him a communist. 342 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,519 I think he's bad to and I think I'm gonna 343 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:32,920 have a lot of fun with him watching him because 344 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,839 he has to come rights to this building to get 345 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,440 his money, and don't worry, he's not going to run 346 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,440 away with anything. I think he's a Frankly, I've heard 347 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,799 this total nutjob. I think for people of New York 348 00:22:43,839 --> 00:22:46,519 are crazy because they go this route. I think they're crazy. 349 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:50,039 We will have a communist in the for the first time, 350 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,519 really a pure through communist. He wants to operate the 351 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:58,759 grocery stores, the department stores. What about the people that 352 00:22:58,759 --> 00:23:02,000 are there, it's I think it's crazy. 353 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: So the president thinks that's he's crazy, and the people 354 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:06,839 in New York are crazy if they vote for him. 355 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,519 The thing about him is, yes, he does a vow 356 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,400 for the same things that the Communist Party has long 357 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,519 been for. He has expressed his views the fact that 358 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:24,599 he wants the community to collectively own and control the 359 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,519 means of production. So it's not just grocery stores or 360 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:31,880 department stores. He truly believes that it is a political 361 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,640 and economic system that he subscribes to. So it's not 362 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,079 name calling. That's really what mister man Danny has expressed 363 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,680 himself in his own words. So well, but I'm looking 364 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,720 at this guy and thinking he's he has a better 365 00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,079 chance than I think a lot of people think. You 366 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,799 can call him a communist, you can ridicule his ideas, 367 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:01,880 you can tell him that communism is a failure in 368 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:06,640 just about everywhere it's ever been tried. But that doesn't 369 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,200 take away from he's got people excited. He's young, he's 370 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,920 thirty three, he's different, and people are looking for something 371 00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:24,359 other than the state old politician. That is why Andrew 372 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,119 Cuomo lost back to the City of New York ranked 373 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,599 choice voting. They finally came in today with the final 374 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:37,440 tally and Man Danny got fifty six percent of the vote, 375 00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:41,799 so much more than had originally been estimated, and much 376 00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:45,039 more than Cuomo was back in the low forty somewhere. 377 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,079 So he clearly has touched a nerve. But it was 378 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,400 a small turnout, and in the fall, when we get 379 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,440 back to fall election, I'm sure there will be a 380 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,839 bigger turnout than was happened here a couple of weeks ago. 381 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,039 So it was a small turn out and a small 382 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:03,920 group of people were excited about him. But I don't 383 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,960 I don't underestimate the sky at all. Yeah. No, he 384 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,839 truly is sympathetic to the communist system. But that's not 385 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:22,640 going to stop him. So let's one other New York story. 386 00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:29,119 I haven't said boo about the Diddy, about Sean Diddy 387 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,240 Combs and his trial, and the jury is deliberating, and 388 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,960 I don't know if they're going to come to an 389 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,319 answer soon or not. But I kind of got some humor. 390 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,720 I haven't paid any attention to it. It's all about, 391 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:44,440 you know, sex parties and he beat up women and 392 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,640 dude did drugs, and I'm going, yeah, that sounds about right. 393 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,160 I don't know if the jury's going to say that 394 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,319 was a violation of the law or now. I wouldn't 395 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:58,599 be as I would not be surprised if Diddy gets off, 396 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,160 but they'll probably get them on something. They got a 397 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,920 whole bunch of counts against him. But I had to 398 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,599 laugh this morning because the jury has sent five notes 399 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,319 back to the judge, and the first one was basically, 400 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,960 we don't like this person on the jury. They're not 401 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:19,799 willing to deliberate. And I thought, oh man, they're already 402 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,640 throwing one of They're twelve under the bus. This is 403 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,240 not gonna go well. So there's twelve jurors locked up 404 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,680 in a jury room, and if you've ever been on 405 00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,319 a jury, I mean that's it. Man. You're in that 406 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,720 room by yourself. There's nobody else. They locked the door 407 00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:40,359 so nobody can come or go. So I'm pure speculation 408 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,039 on my part, but I'm thinking somebody walked in there 409 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,079 and it's jury number twenty five, and if you look 410 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,640 up jury number twenty five, you won't find the person's name. 411 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,200 But they have a PhD and something and they're I 412 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,400 think a veterinarian, and I don't know. They got there 413 00:26:56,519 --> 00:27:01,720 very It's not like somebody can't Hispanic ethnicity, but it's 414 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:06,200 not like they can't speak English, and they're well educated. 415 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,720 I'm thinking they just went in there and said, I 416 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:11,759 made my mind up. I've listened carefully to the witnesses 417 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,960 and I made my mind up, and I'm not going 418 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,720 to deliberate. And the other juror, the head of the 419 00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:21,240 jury spokesperson, freaked out and sent a note to the judge. 420 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:27,640 This person won't won't cooperate. The note said that the 421 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:31,799 judge to the judge, this person number twenty five won't 422 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,759 follow the justices of the Judge's instructions. And so the 423 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:42,519 judge said, here's another copy of the instructions for the 424 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,680 person to read again. So he wouldn't follow the instructions, 425 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,039 so he sent them another copy of the instructions. It 426 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,119 sounds like a zoo. It sounds like a complete mess. 427 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,119 But I mean, what would you expect from a puff 428 00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:01,200 ditty Sean Combe's trial than just that, all right, another 429 00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:06,920 trial which is much more serious and one that I 430 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,000 have not spoken much about, but I've been very interested 431 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,799 in it. It's such a shocker case. That's the Moscow, 432 00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:21,240 Idaho University of Idaho for students that were stabbed to 433 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,759 death in the middle of the night. Brian Kohlberger has 434 00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:31,200 been charged with the crime. They had a trial set 435 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,079 for the town of Moscow, it's a small college town. 436 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,119 They got to change of venue to the state capital 437 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:43,519 of Boise. The families have been very active with the 438 00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:47,119 media on this, at least one particular that was Kaylee 439 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:56,160 calls Gonkolva's father Steve very involved will apparently last night, 440 00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:03,000 which I think is rather poor taste, they got an email. 441 00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:07,279 The Famili's got an email that Brian Kolberger they've cut 442 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:11,480 a deal with him to where he will plead guilty 443 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,240 to the murders in exchange for getting rid of the 444 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,279 death penalty, and also that he will not be able 445 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:23,839 to appeal this in any way, shape or form. Kevin 446 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,839 Fixler is a reporter who's been following this case for 447 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,000 The Idaho Statesman, and this is his take on this 448 00:29:32,519 --> 00:29:36,920 surprising announcement that Colberger is going to plead guilty. 449 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you have to feel for the families, 450 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,480 particularly they could solve his family, who's been very vocal 451 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:46,799 throughout this period and including that they are staunch supporters 452 00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:52,319 of capital punishment in this situation. The prosecution obviously has 453 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,039 struck an agreements. In the letter that they sent to 454 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,839 family members, they stated that the defense reached out. We 455 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,960 know from the May hearing that Stephen Hitler indicated that 456 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,519 a last and final offer needed to be tender to 457 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,400 the defense. They clearly reached out to the prosecution, and 458 00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,240 as we can see, the agreement is Brian Coberger will 459 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:13,640 plead guilty according to that letter, an expectation in exchange 460 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,200 for losing the death penalty. 461 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,279 Speaker 1: Here is the father of Kailey Gunkalva's, Steve Gohnkalvas, who 462 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:23,039 has been very very outspoken about everything involving the death 463 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:23,680 of his daughter. 464 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,319 Speaker 9: This is anything but justice. This is the opposite of 465 00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:32,920 our will. There was no majority believing that this was acceptable. 466 00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:38,519 The fault is in leadership and the people that you 467 00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:44,720 placed this evidence upon. They day or week they decided 468 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:49,039 to play god and decide what this man's decision should 469 00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,279 be and not a jury not. 470 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: A peers back to the reporter from the Idaho Statesman. 471 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,039 Speaker 8: Well, as you pointed to the change of venue had 472 00:30:58,039 --> 00:31:02,559 an impact, the Conslvest family were consistent in attending and 473 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,680 they have continued to do so for the most part. 474 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,640 In Boise. The mother and father of victim Kayley Cansolves 475 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,759 and sometimes bringing other relatives, but they've been the mainstays. 476 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,039 We have seen Madison Mogan, one of the other victims. 477 00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:20,759 Her mother has also attended. We've not seen so many 478 00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,920 of the others, although, as Jonathan the reporter pointed to, 479 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,079 the Chapin family Stacey and Jim, and there are two 480 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,240 other children who were triplets with Ethan Chapin, one of 481 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,720 the other victims. They plan to be in Boise and 482 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,279 make the trip from Washington State, and they are supportive 483 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,319 of the plea deal. I can also tell you that 484 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,319 from our reporting at The Statesman, my coworker Alex Brizzy, 485 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,559 spoke with Ben Mogan, the father of Madison Mogan, and 486 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,119 he seemed to indicate he was also supportive of this deal. 487 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,279 So while Steve Cansalves points to in that interview that 488 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,960 the majority of family members of the four victims are 489 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,319 not in favor of this, at least some of them are, 490 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,039 and the prosecution indicated in their letter that this is 491 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:03,119 their best attempt at seeking justice on behalf of their 492 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,920 children who were killed in this incident. 493 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,599 Speaker 1: But here's a defense lawyer who claims that the trial 494 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,440 is in an of itself closure for the family of victims. 495 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 10: I think sometimes for closure, families need these trials. They 496 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,440 need to be able to sit and listen and there's 497 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,440 some element of connection to their loved one and these 498 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,839 young girls and the one young man that were. 499 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,119 Speaker 2: In the home. 500 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 10: I think their families may needed this. 501 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 8: I totally respect and understand her perspective on that. And 502 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,920 we don't yet know if victim's statements will be victim 503 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,079 impact statements will be granted at sentencing. That is pretty typical, 504 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,000 so that may be the opportunity for family members to 505 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,640 vent their frustrations about this. We have seen the Consolvests 506 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,960 family on their Facebook page actually posted the phone number 507 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,640 for the presiding judge his office line and encouraging supporters 508 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,559 to reach out and form the court and also the 509 00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:05,079 governor's office. Today is hearing from members of the public 510 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,759 that they are not supportive of this steal and they 511 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,680 are as frustrated as the Consultus family. But this will 512 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,559 have to play out tomorrow. 513 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:14,279 Speaker 1: Referring to about tomorrow's there is a hearing in Boise 514 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,720 to go over this plea of guilty, which is why 515 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,039 one of the families is fighting back on the gun 516 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,640 Kalva's Family Facebook page. Let me go over some of 517 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,640 it as I read from the Facebook posting, whoever is 518 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200 the moderator for the gun Kalva's Family page says it 519 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,359 looks like the voicemail is full and they will not 520 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,200 be reviewing for the week. In other words, people were 521 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,680 calling the court and the voicemail system there is full, 522 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:49,920 so they posted it's Gonkalva's Family. Google that and you'll 523 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,359 see the Facebook page come up. So we had so 524 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,960 many people reach out to offer support, love, encouragement and consolas, 525 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,000 offering their own experiences through navigating the justice system. We 526 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,480 have also had so many people asking us how they 527 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:07,920 can help. We stand strong that it's not over until 528 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,199 the plea is accepted. We will not stop fighting for 529 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,480 the life that was stolen unjustly. If you feel called 530 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:17,760 or moved to try to make a difference. Please contact 531 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:21,880 the Ada County Courthouse to express your thoughts or feelings. 532 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,960 N goes on for quite lengthy page. Here's another statement 533 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,599 from the family. The death penalty is merely an illusion 534 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,119 in the criminal justice system. When available, it serves as 535 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,400 a bargaining tool for the state, and when rarely applied, 536 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,119 it's never enforced due to a highly inefficient appellate process. 537 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,960 The notion that someone complete guilty to a crime and 538 00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:52,800 still face years of appellate delays reveals a systemic failure 539 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,320 the Latak County Prosecutor's office. Treatment of our family during 540 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,119 this process is something I would wish on anyone. We 541 00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:06,239 questioned decisions early in the investigation. Why was the mayor 542 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,840 commenting on the case. Why was the coroner speaking to families? 543 00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:13,440 Why was an officer with less than two years experience 544 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:18,119 leading the investigation? Why was the University of Idaho involved 545 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,400 when they declared it isolated off campus incident? Why was 546 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,800 the university permitted to write a book about the incident 547 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,320 while others were silenced under an overly broad order. As 548 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,000 a result, we were branded adversaries. So it was no 549 00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:38,519 shock to how the Talk County Prosecutor's Office mishandled the 550 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:43,119 plea deal. They vaguely mentioned a possible plea on Friday 551 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,239 without seeking our input, and presented the plea on Sunday 552 00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:54,239 LA Talk County prosecutors should be ashamed. Four young, wonderful 553 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,480 young people lost their lives if the victims were treated 554 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,800 as opponents from the outset. We weren't even called about 555 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,400 the plea. We received an email with a letter attached. 556 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,400 That's how the prosecutor's office treats murder victims' families, adding 557 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,079 insult to injury. They are rushing the plea, giving families 558 00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:17,960 just one day to coordinate and appear at the courthouse 559 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,039 for a plea on July second. Who do they think 560 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,400 they are after more than two years. This is how 561 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,920 it concludes, with a secret of deal and a hurried 562 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,039 effort to close the case without any input from the 563 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:36,440 families on the plea details. Our family is frustrated right 564 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,079 now that Wilson, and that will subside and we will 565 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,239 come together as always indeed, with the reality that we 566 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,679 face moving forward. Once again, we thank everyone for their 567 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,079 thoughts and prayers. So you can see. They went on 568 00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:54,159 to talk about that this guy is going to continue 569 00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:56,960 to have a life, he's going to meet people, he's 570 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,719 going to be involved in the world, and his and 571 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:08,960 their children, of course, are silenced. So I presume victims 572 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,400 of crime their families feel exactly like the gun Kalvas family. 573 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:16,440 The other thing is probably very frustrating for the family 574 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,760 is that the evidence against Brian Cohlberger is not just 575 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,159 a little, not just a lot. It is overwhelming. They 576 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:30,199 have enormous testimony from the surviving housemate. They have cell 577 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:37,199 phone data allegedly tying Colberger to the scene. They have 578 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:43,480 data allegedly showing that he searched everything about Ted Bundy. 579 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,960 He well, they had surveillance video showing the car going 580 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,440 around and around and around and around by the victims home, 581 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,280 by the house they were living in. They have DNA 582 00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:01,000 evidence from the ninth sheath, and they've got a series 583 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:07,400 of apparently very damning items that came from his Amazon search. 584 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:13,000 He was searching Amazon for products that apparently are very 585 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,760 damning to his case. So now he pleads guilty. It 586 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920 wasn't a question of whether he did it or not. 587 00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,119 I know you've always got the question about would there 588 00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:29,079 be somebody that's, I don't know, sympathetic to the death 589 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:32,559 penalty that would be on the trial and he would 590 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,920 have a hung jury or something along those lines. But 591 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,800 it is one that I would think is extremely frustrating 592 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,039 for the family, and this Brian Kohlberger gets to live 593 00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,960 the rest of his life three square meals a day 594 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:51,079 in a bed. I know it's not comfortable, but the 595 00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:55,440 children are gone and he's still around. I was hoping 596 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,239 that we would be all over the trial when it 597 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:04,480 started in August, but apparently tomorrow, July second, is the hearing. 598 00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:09,280 We'll find out what comes from that. Meantime, let's wrap 599 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,679 this up for today. Wall Street today just keeps going higher. 600 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,320 EF now ends up four hundred points to forty four thousand, 601 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:25,280 four ninety four. Nope, not a record yet. The record 602 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,280 was in December. It's a little above forty five thousand, 603 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,119 so we're getting closer. The SMP had a record yesterday. 604 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:35,760 It fell seven points today. The Nasdaq had a record yesterday. 605 00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:39,039 It fell one hundred and sixty six points today. The 606 00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:42,480 price of gold was up forty one dollars to thirty 607 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:46,280 three forty nine, and oil kind of hanging out in 608 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,719 that sixty five dollars range. It was up sixty cents 609 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,920 today to sixty five dollars and seventy one cents for 610 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,880 a barrel of oil. So that's it for today. Thank 611 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,760 you for coming by first day of July, first day 612 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,440 of the quarter, which surprises me because Wall Street usually 613 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,079 the last day of a quarter in the first day 614 00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:07,880 of the next quarter usually gets kind of wild. But 615 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,480 yesterday was positive and today was basically positive as well. 616 00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:14,480 That's it for today. Thanks again. We will try this 617 00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,000 again tomorrow. I hope to see you then.