Speaker 1: Weird things happened in the back.
Speaker 2: Weird weird, weird welcome. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I really like that. It was kind of like a
Speaker 2: Zelda thing, like you know, the co Ox make funny
Speaker 2: noises and stuff.
Speaker 1: I was thinking more like a Tourett's take.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, cool, we can my brother has it,
Speaker 2: so I might have.
Speaker 1: Hey, I mean it's it's your brother. I might have it.
Speaker 2: You might have it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, bro. But anyway, we have a special
Speaker 1: episode today and we are joined by my sister. We
Speaker 1: know her, love her, we miss her, and she's here
Speaker 1: with us today.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 2: Ao, Ao? Yeah? We miss you. I miss you and
Speaker 2: Jack so much. I haven't seen I've seen you more
Speaker 2: recently than i've seen Jack.
Speaker 3: He hasn't been here since Christmas.
Speaker 1: I know because Emily was at his alia with us.
Speaker 3: Yes, because I came here for that in a wedding, yes,
Speaker 3: and he had to stay and work.
Speaker 2: And how you guys been in Florida? It's been how
Speaker 2: long since el.
Speaker 3: Mon we moved. It's like a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Ago was a year, amazing.
Speaker 3: July seventeenth was a year.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh, wait, that was a month ago today. Yeah, oh sweet,
Speaker 3: So it's been a year and a month.
Speaker 1: Shout out and happy birthday to our cousin ly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, happy birthday birthday. But yeah, we've been good. It's
Speaker 3: it's starting to feel like home. I really love the area.
Speaker 3: We are starting to learn our favorite spots.
Speaker 1: You know, that takes years.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes a long time, and it's by. And
Speaker 3: I've been really grinding like crazy with my business stuff,
Speaker 3: like since the last time I was on the show,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, there's been so many changes. It's like
Speaker 3: just been uh a lot of work, I'll just say, yeah,
Speaker 3: which I'm proud of, and I'm grateful that I've had
Speaker 3: the time and the space to work on it. But
Speaker 3: it's kind of been taken all of my energy. That
Speaker 3: and then working on my music, which has been exciting.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're good. We're doing good.
Speaker 2: Your business is killing it, by the way, Like every
Speaker 2: time I look at your business page, it's like the
Speaker 2: number is significantly higher, Like it's it's awesome.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, and I I'm pouring a lot of
Speaker 3: love into it. So I'm glad that it's it's reaching people,
Speaker 3: which is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the lot of work is paying off, Like it's
Speaker 2: it can feel like a lot, I'm sure, but it's
Speaker 2: totally paying off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ups and downs. You have to you have
Speaker 3: to really teach yourself to uh to love the downs
Speaker 3: and love the ups. You know, that's with anything. So
Speaker 3: it's app applicable to everything, which is, which is a
Speaker 3: good lesson. But yeah, last time I was here, I
Speaker 3: was talking about my new program, which is the Your
Speaker 3: Holistic Voice, And since then I have created a whole
Speaker 3: new program. So now I have two full programs and
Speaker 3: a subscription service which is like kind of like Patreon,
Speaker 3: but it's for education. It's through a platform called school. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's been like a lot I didn't. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: really cool.
Speaker 2: Give us the quick rundown of the other course in
Speaker 2: the subscription thing like yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and I'll just say because a lot of people
Speaker 3: have been interested in your Holistic Voice, which is I
Speaker 3: talked kind of in depth about it on the most
Speaker 3: recent episode I was on, But that is I just
Speaker 3: want to be clear for people, like if you aren't
Speaker 3: a singer, but you're looking for some sort of holistic
Speaker 3: healing or you're going through a spiritual awakening, and you're
Speaker 3: struggling or you want to learn to regulate your nervous
Speaker 3: system or use singing as a healing tool. This is
Speaker 3: still a great program for you. It's not focused on technique,
Speaker 3: so it's about improving your voice, but improving your voice
Speaker 3: also metaphorically, so like your relationship to yourself and your
Speaker 3: authenticity and healing and growing and feeling in your power
Speaker 3: and moving through spiritual crisis and like overcoming trauma and stuff.
Speaker 3: So for singers that have been through stuff like I
Speaker 3: had in the past, it's monumental. But it also like
Speaker 3: I have people in there that aren't singers at all,
Speaker 3: and they're like loving its cool. Yeah, so a lot
Speaker 3: of songwriters actually some people that just like to to
Speaker 3: chant like singing, like with like sound bath stuff, like
Speaker 3: they just like to use their voice, but they're not singers.
Speaker 3: But then my second program that I just started is
Speaker 3: more technical, So this is like we're going to learn
Speaker 3: about the voice. This is how you're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: And the goal with this is to not make people
Speaker 3: have to pay me forever, because typically voice lessons you
Speaker 3: go once a week for like years and years and
Speaker 3: years until you die, right like, and you depend on
Speaker 3: your voice teacher to you know, to help you when
Speaker 3: you need it. And so my goal was to educate
Speaker 3: people enough to where they could identify what was going
Speaker 3: on so they could address it and improve it. And
Speaker 3: I help them with that. And there's the community and
Speaker 3: then like all the educational stuff, but also in the
Speaker 3: future when I'm not with them, they don't have to
Speaker 3: wonder what's happening and why do I feel so upset
Speaker 3: about it? Like I don't know how to fix this?
Speaker 2: You teach them how to address.
Speaker 3: Those, yeah, without having to like learn all the pedagogy
Speaker 3: stuff to be a teacher or something. But it's just enough.
Speaker 3: Pedagogy is like the study of teaching. So I'm a
Speaker 3: vocal pedagogue and I just turned in my last paper
Speaker 3: for my vocology certification, so that's amazing. Vocology is like
Speaker 3: a whole other thing, but the study of teaching. So
Speaker 3: for voice pedagogues that is like voice science and voice
Speaker 3: teaching methods. It's it's a lot. It's the perfect blend
Speaker 3: of artistry and like science because for the voice it's
Speaker 3: so science based, like with anatomy and function and physiology,
Speaker 3: and then art like you're a singer, like it's music,
Speaker 3: So there's a lot in it. It's very crazy. So
Speaker 3: I don't teach all of that stuff specifically, but a
Speaker 3: lot of it enough for people to know how to
Speaker 3: address it for themselves and to improve and give them
Speaker 3: a list of things they can do exercises, exercises and whatever.
Speaker 3: And then like brain drills because I'm a neurocentric teacher,
Speaker 3: so everything is through the lens of what's going on
Speaker 3: with your nervous system and how can we use that
Speaker 3: to improve your singing? For this program, and then for
Speaker 3: your holistic voice, it's how can we address the nervous
Speaker 3: system for the global benefit, like not just the voice,
Speaker 3: but you as like a human. Two different mode here,
Speaker 3: So I have the holistic one for people that like
Speaker 3: singer or not if you're going through it and you
Speaker 3: need some support and healing, that's great for you, or
Speaker 3: the technical one, or you could do both. I have
Speaker 3: people that do both. And then for my subscription service,
Speaker 3: it's for people who aren't willing or not ready to commit,
Speaker 3: maybe don't want to go super in depth with either.
Speaker 3: They just want some consistent like good information, cool and
Speaker 3: a community, so like you can unlock chances to work
Speaker 3: with me privately you can unlock. You can unlock a
Speaker 3: lot of resources that I've created and different things. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to forget all the perks you can unlock in there. Oh,
Speaker 3: I host like events where you can join in and
Speaker 3: do like a masterclass with me. But I post weekly
Speaker 3: content in there.
Speaker 2: Like videos and the instructional videos informational stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a blend. It's kind of a blend
Speaker 3: of holistic and technical, but it's nowhere near as in
Speaker 3: depth as the coaching programs. But the I'll just say
Speaker 3: the names of them and then we can move on.
Speaker 3: But the subscription service is called the Smart Singer Society,
Speaker 3: which is so cute. Yeah. And there's already over one
Speaker 3: hundred people in there.
Speaker 1: So cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, and people are really loving it and they're
Speaker 3: finding it super helpful. So the Smart Singer Society, it's affordable.
Speaker 3: It's cheaper than the the the price of one single
Speaker 3: voice lesson, and you get a month's worth of content
Speaker 3: and everything. Like, it's my way of helping as many
Speaker 3: people as I can while still sustaining myself, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Because I have so many people wanting lessons,
Speaker 3: and I can't give everybody lessons it's so much of course,
Speaker 3: so I'm trying to spread the love, you know. But
Speaker 3: then the coaching programs. I've got the your Holistic Voice
Speaker 3: and then the Mastery program. But yeah, that's all through
Speaker 3: my Instagram Emily Holloway Voice.
Speaker 2: So awesome. I'm so proud of you. Thank you knocking
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 3: I wake up, I go to the gym, took a
Speaker 3: cold shower, and I just start the grind and then
Speaker 3: I eat and then I work again, and then I
Speaker 3: go to bed. That's my that's my week. And then
Speaker 3: on the weekends, Jack and I go to Fort de
Speaker 3: Soto and hunt for sand dollars.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: Well, that's awesome. That's something that I really want to
Speaker 2: work because there's like a science to it, right, There's
Speaker 2: like there's like a technique to it.
Speaker 3: There. Well, what we do. So there's this place called
Speaker 3: Fort DeSoto. It's kind of an island south of Saint Pete.
Speaker 3: You know, we're in clear Water, so you just drive
Speaker 3: through Saint Pete and then on the bridge to Fort Desota.
Speaker 3: There's a it's a it's a park, a state park,
Speaker 3: I think, but there's like camping. You can rent kayaks
Speaker 3: and it's on this little island, but there's a sand
Speaker 3: Dollar Beach there, and so it's like loaded with sand dollars,
Speaker 3: and so we just take our snorkel goggles out there
Speaker 3: and our snorkels and we just like for hours are
Speaker 3: just like face down in the water, like hunting. It's
Speaker 3: so amazing. It's our favorite thing about living there. We're
Speaker 3: always like sand dollars.
Speaker 2: I'd always heard about people finding like shark teeth, and
Speaker 2: I never found one until the first time we went
Speaker 2: to the beach after moving here. They like Casey like
Speaker 2: broke down the there's like a technique and all this
Speaker 2: stuff to finding it, and I found one.
Speaker 1: But I've ever found one.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to find a sand dollar.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well, if you come to sand Dollar Beach,
Speaker 3: literally everyone's like I found one. I found one.
Speaker 2: People around you.
Speaker 3: They're everywhere. I don't even have to look down in
Speaker 3: the water. I can just feel with my foot and
Speaker 3: I'll feel something and I'm like, I reach down, it's
Speaker 3: a sand dollar.
Speaker 1: They're here. You can find a dollar. I found thee
Speaker 1: last time I.
Speaker 2: Went to the beach.
Speaker 4: We also have a sand Dollar Island. What, yes, they'd
Speaker 4: have to get there by boat, they're everywhere tied.
Speaker 2: I know somebody's got a boat.
Speaker 1: That's true. We haven't probably go with them.
Speaker 2: Then he back there wearing a white shirt.
Speaker 1: Right now, you know what, we should make a concerted
Speaker 1: effort to do some sort of final beach urrah before
Speaker 1: this summer's over, because raw, because I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: was in Europe for a month during the summer, so
Speaker 1: I feel like I had no summer. So you're just
Speaker 1: saying we should do something. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Just for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, but it's great. It's great. I'm loving
Speaker 3: Florida amazing. I'm loving it. And I did want to say,
Speaker 3: it's so funny because y'all remember when I was talking
Speaker 3: the first time. I know we're going to talk about
Speaker 3: Monroe stuff, but the first time I was sharing that
Speaker 3: story about uh, when I look down and that that
Speaker 3: rock was there on the beach and it was orange
Speaker 3: and it was like listening and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: in my orange period now and I still have it. Well,
Speaker 3: I wish I had a photo. Maybe we could put
Speaker 3: it in the episode. But my apartment literally like the
Speaker 3: what do you call it, the the apartment complex, like
Speaker 3: around the patios, it's all.
Speaker 1: Just those rocks.
Speaker 2: No way, yes, wow.
Speaker 3: Like that exact same rock And there was not a
Speaker 3: single other one on the beach that day when I.
Speaker 2: You probably freaked out when you first got there.
Speaker 3: And I got there and I'm like, wait, it's all
Speaker 3: just my rocks.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this thought just that's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I might be out your way. I might be out
Speaker 1: your way pretty soon because that one guy who wanted
Speaker 1: me to come out to I don't want to say
Speaker 1: who it is. Yeah, yeah, but someone had wanted me
Speaker 1: to come out to the Tampa area to do a show.
Speaker 1: I remember we talked about it a while ago. He
Speaker 1: just messaged me again the other day. You still want
Speaker 1: to come down. So I'm like, great, maybe come on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might be down your way.
Speaker 3: I'll still be hot for a while. We can go
Speaker 3: to like a spring. Oh we went to the Devil's
Speaker 3: Den spring.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how was that?
Speaker 2: Like a hot spring?
Speaker 3: It's an underground prehistoric spring, and the water it's cold.
Speaker 1: It's because I went to a cold spring in Florida.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, they're all seventy two degrees year round, all
Speaker 3: the springs in Florida, and so this spring in particular
Speaker 3: is it was like TikTok famous, I think for a
Speaker 3: while because it's so aesthetic, Like you go down this
Speaker 3: ladder underground in this like cavern and then there's just
Speaker 3: like the open water. It's a big circle.
Speaker 1: It is so cool.
Speaker 2: Do you like to pay to go to stuff like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like fifteen bucks. But we you snorkel
Speaker 3: in there. It's like fifty feet deep clear blue water.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and you're.
Speaker 3: You have the fence and there's like only turtles and fishing.
Speaker 1: You ever been in the spring, dude, It's it's like
Speaker 1: the one I was in was called I think it
Speaker 1: was a blue spring because there's multiple types of springs,
Speaker 1: and the water was like sixty two degrees. It's cold,
Speaker 1: which that doesn't sound cold.
Speaker 2: Oh for water like immersed in your whole body, that's cold.
Speaker 2: It was cold, that's cool.
Speaker 1: It took me granted this was before oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean this was before I found out about like cold
Speaker 1: showers and whim Hoff and all that stuff. And this
Speaker 1: was like four uh yeah, four years ago. I got
Speaker 1: in there, and it took me probably thirty to forty
Speaker 1: five minutes to like bravely like go in the water,
Speaker 1: like standing with my legs in Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice, yeah, yeah, and it's just it was so cold, dude.
Speaker 1: But now, I mean, you know, I show the cold
Speaker 1: showers help you get used to it better, and now
Speaker 1: it's a piece of cake. But it's awesome, dude.
Speaker 2: I would love to go see something.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're just like State Park and they come up
Speaker 3: to you and they're like, don't touch the manatees because
Speaker 3: you could give them like an infection if you so.
Speaker 3: But they come up and they like rub up on you.
Speaker 3: They haven't done it to me.
Speaker 1: But is that a new thing, not being able to
Speaker 1: touch them.
Speaker 3: I don't know how recent it is, but it's like
Speaker 3: a big deal.
Speaker 1: I've always heard that because I just.
Speaker 3: Don't want to hurt their skin.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I went on a class field trip and the rule
Speaker 4: was you had to touch them with one hand only.
Speaker 4: M This was this was probably twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe it's dangered.
Speaker 4: So they were like, you cannot put two hands on them,
Speaker 4: and they were like, uh, there's people out there park
Speaker 4: rangers pretending to be tourists that will give you a.
Speaker 1: Ticket if they see you.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Or they were just trying to scare us.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The third grade, we adopted a manatee our class.
Speaker 2: Uh never saw it.
Speaker 3: I have a dolphin. I saw it, Mom, Mom, she
Speaker 3: got me and Jenny for I think it was Valentine's date.
Speaker 3: Our Valentine's gift for Mom was an adopted creature. Mine
Speaker 3: was a dolphin named Bill who lives in the gulf
Speaker 3: near where I am, and I can track on my
Speaker 3: phone where Bill is.
Speaker 1: Oh, you should hunt him down.
Speaker 3: He lives near me. He's sometimes like he's like twenty
Speaker 3: miles off my coast.
Speaker 1: Get a jet ski boat and go hunt him down
Speaker 1: and try to like that.
Speaker 2: We'll just you got to meet him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Jenny has a turtle named Dobby.
Speaker 1: Oh well, she also has turtles named Damien, DeVante, Douglas.
Speaker 3: Imparius, Yeah, and Dobby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dobby because turtles just keep rolling up in our yard.
Speaker 3: That is funny. You know, the name Damien is Jack's
Speaker 3: fake name. If we ever have to have a fake name,
Speaker 3: He's like, my name's Damien.
Speaker 1: Well you know why, right, Why do want you to
Speaker 1: have a fake you know, just like to mess with people.
Speaker 2: But you know why, Damien's his name, right, Because I
Speaker 2: was about to say.
Speaker 1: Because me and Jacko Batman.
Speaker 3: And Robin, I don't know. I think it's just one
Speaker 3: of those like.
Speaker 1: It's Robin just like popping his head. He's dances Robin.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I know my brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Bruce Wayne's son. He's he's obsessed, dude. We
Speaker 1: have a DC obsession together. I'm just telling you, I
Speaker 1: know that boy.
Speaker 3: We believe you, apparently.
Speaker 2: More than you.
Speaker 3: Who did I marry? All he thinks about is pickleball
Speaker 3: on one piece these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I prayed for years that he would one day
Speaker 3: come around to anime and he would never get it,
Speaker 3: to give it a chance, until Ryan and Jeremy pressured him,
Speaker 3: and now he won't shut up about anime.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we just got together. We just got together,
Speaker 1: and he didn't care.
Speaker 3: When I care.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be married to my sister, here's
Speaker 1: my philosophy on life. And you don't have a younger sister.
Speaker 1: You have an older sister, so it's different.
Speaker 2: I'll have a younger sister in lawsuit.
Speaker 1: That's true. True, But here's my philosophy in life. If
Speaker 1: you are going to marry my little sister, you are
Speaker 1: going to enjoy things with me. Okay, you owe it
Speaker 1: to me, all right, So if I want you to
Speaker 1: watch anime, get fucking started. We're gonna watch some anime.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: You know how far Jack is.
Speaker 2: I think he might be past me.
Speaker 3: He's he's he's almost out of hole Cake Island.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm in the eight fifties.
Speaker 2: I'm in, I'm in. I'm in Wana, So I'm in
Speaker 2: like the early nine hundreds. But I've been watching the
Speaker 2: show for two years or something like that. Jack started
Speaker 2: watching what six six? Yeah, okay, maybe like a year ago.
Speaker 1: A year ago.
Speaker 3: So he started after after your birthday last year.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh right, because we were we were talking about it,
Speaker 2: like the whole week.
Speaker 1: I showed up in December and he was near the beginning. Okay,
Speaker 1: remember I stayed with your last December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in less than a year, he has watched
Speaker 2: the same amount as me. In like two and a
Speaker 2: half years.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, he'd been with my sister, and
Speaker 1: you know, we we bonded on the DC and the
Speaker 1: Marvel thing, but he just I never could get him
Speaker 1: to buckle on the anime. Dude. And Emily would be
Speaker 1: like you gotta watch this on me. You gotta watch
Speaker 1: that one me And he's like, and uh.
Speaker 3: Was like, what what are we going to start with
Speaker 3: our new anime.
Speaker 1: We finally got him the cave and watch One Piece,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen him in eight months, you know.
Speaker 1: And he was like, in the beginning of One Piece,
Speaker 1: never seen another anime. Last night he was like, dude,
Speaker 1: you have got to keep watching the anime. Don't just
Speaker 1: read the manga, the animation, the fight scenes, the humor.
Speaker 3: The emotion.
Speaker 2: It's true, there are some arcs I feel like you
Speaker 2: should just read, like he's about to be a fishman Island.
Speaker 2: I told him, like, you could probably just read that.
Speaker 3: It's not the most memorable.
Speaker 2: Hazard is pretty sick towards the end. And then Dress, Rosie,
Speaker 2: you gotta watch.
Speaker 3: You have to watch Dress.
Speaker 2: You gotta watch Dress.
Speaker 3: But anyway, my dreams have come true. I have an
Speaker 3: anime prince now.
Speaker 1: And you can thank me and Jeremy.
Speaker 3: We started Naruto and he's, uh, let's go. He's been
Speaker 3: enjoying the first few episodes, which I've been warning him,
Speaker 3: like the first few episodes are notoriously like not the best,
Speaker 3: like the first twelve or so people don't love the target,
Speaker 3: but he's He's like, we can watch another one.
Speaker 2: It's great. It's great. Yeah. A few years ago, me
Speaker 2: and Casey watched it for her first time, and I
Speaker 2: was telling her the same thing, like it's pretty slow.
Speaker 2: But then I watched the first episode, I was like,
Speaker 2: this kind of sick.
Speaker 3: I still love it. No, it's funny because the other
Speaker 3: day I happened upon my wisdom teeth removal video. And
Speaker 3: if you want to know how long I've been watching
Speaker 3: One Piece, I sang the entire One Piece theme song
Speaker 3: while I was all drugged up.
Speaker 1: A long time surgery.
Speaker 2: It was due.
Speaker 3: It was like nine or ten years ago.
Speaker 2: I remember chilling in your room and you had your
Speaker 2: iPad sitting on his couch watching One Piece. Freaking eight
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 3: It has to be it was more than that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, probably ten years ago. I mean this is
Speaker 2: when we were still in high school, or maybe just
Speaker 2: out of high school or just something like that. You've
Speaker 2: been watching it forever.
Speaker 3: It's the best. It's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting every week for a new episode to come out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're caught up.
Speaker 1: That's why I thought about reading. It's like the.
Speaker 3: Most recent episode or I watched it.
Speaker 2: I watched it. I watch all of them with the wait.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the one this week, the one before Galaxy.
Speaker 3: There's just some crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I've been rewatching Sailor Moon Crystal.
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Is that the remake?
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the remake. It's closer to the manga. There's
Speaker 3: less filler, it's a little different than the original. But
Speaker 3: I think if you're ever going to watch either, you
Speaker 3: could just watch that.
Speaker 2: I've never seen Les.
Speaker 3: It's so good and it's so blatantly esoteric, so late
Speaker 3: Sailor Moon's cool.
Speaker 2: So then if I wanted to watch some of it,
Speaker 2: just watch Crystal. Yeah, I've never seen any of it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's close enough to the original, and
Speaker 3: I think in the ways that count oh cool. When
Speaker 3: I was little, Ryan was watching DBZ, I was like
Speaker 3: sneaking my VHS tapes of Sailor Moon at night when
Speaker 3: I was like really little, that was my show. But yeah,
Speaker 3: Sailor Moon Crystal.
Speaker 1: Is really good.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 1: You know, the creator of Sailor Moon is married to
Speaker 1: the creator of you U Hockey Show and Hunter Hunter
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Their husband and wife.
Speaker 2: That's bad, isn't it. That's so bad ass.
Speaker 3: Yes, I actually have kind of a synchronicity with the
Speaker 3: Sailor Moon stuff with the Monroe stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean wherever you want to go. I mean,
Speaker 1: whenever you're ready, because Monroe is going to be a
Speaker 1: lot I think to unpack.
Speaker 3: So okay, I don't Well, can you prompt me some questions?
Speaker 3: I mean that's kind of broad for me to just say, go, Well,
Speaker 3: there's just so much.
Speaker 1: There's the deal. You have been there twice plus, you've
Speaker 1: done a creation station. But the thing that I think
Speaker 1: is really something that makes sense to me now after
Speaker 1: having been there, is you know, you first went there
Speaker 1: two years ago, and there's probably been a lot of
Speaker 1: dramatic change that has unfolded in your life since being there.
Speaker 1: So we have a lot to talk about. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: rehashing your first trip there, but I want to hear
Speaker 1: about it, you know again from like a different perspective
Speaker 1: having recently been there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's really cool to see now that
Speaker 3: you've been there and some of my students, because this
Speaker 3: is an exciting thing, Like the reason I just did
Speaker 3: creation station which is one of their other programs programs, right.
Speaker 1: It's a minro program.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The reason we did that is because I was
Speaker 3: able to set up a private group just for my
Speaker 3: your Holistic Voice people, So it was just for my
Speaker 3: program and and I and we did a private virtual retreat.
Speaker 3: And I have to say the virtual retreat was awesome.
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure if it would live up to the
Speaker 3: in person retreat because I've been twice and I thought
Speaker 3: it was really fabulous. I really did, like I thought it.
Speaker 3: It was different, obviously, but there's something special about There's
Speaker 3: something special about being there in person at Monroe because
Speaker 3: it's magical. You're like in this new world, like you're
Speaker 3: really immersed. But there's also something special about experiencing it
Speaker 3: virtually in your home and practicing all of that and
Speaker 3: you're in your space and you're walking around, you're viewing
Speaker 3: your life in a new way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like it's very.
Speaker 1: Personal and comfortable.
Speaker 3: It's it's comfortable, but it's also the immediate perspective shift
Speaker 3: is happening while you're in your own environment, and that's
Speaker 3: really interesting to me. I didn't expect that. Does that
Speaker 3: make sense?
Speaker 2: It were Yeah, because I imagine going there. You're there
Speaker 2: and it's amazing and profound and everything, and then when
Speaker 2: you come back, it takes some time you come back,
Speaker 2: and then you can kind of start to see it
Speaker 2: through a different lens. Right, But if you're like experiencing
Speaker 2: it while you are at home where you spend all
Speaker 2: of your time, you're like immediately getting that perspective shift.
Speaker 2: That sounds really cool too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I actually I yes, I thought that was
Speaker 3: really special about it. And then of course, like the
Speaker 3: frequencies are the same, like, yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's just your home, right, and you're like prompted to
Speaker 3: like maybe blindfold yourself or dark curtains or whatever. So
Speaker 3: you just have to manage that kind of thing. But anyway,
Speaker 3: the Creation Station event we did was three days, and
Speaker 3: the focus for it is to I don't want to
Speaker 3: give away any of the special details about it.
Speaker 1: But me say it like this too, because we both
Speaker 1: had chats with Ignacio and I've been like talking to
Speaker 1: him separately about just different like Monroa related things. But
Speaker 1: keep in mind that we are about to go through
Speaker 1: Creation Station, me Nick and Alex. So what I'm interested
Speaker 1: is hearing what you experienced what it was like without
Speaker 1: you know, front loading as they say, because they don't
Speaker 1: want to front load, you know, the preparation, the the
Speaker 1: you know, the what what we should expect like this
Speaker 1: is this exercise with this exercise and you should feel this,
Speaker 1: you know, but like I want to know like how
Speaker 1: profound it was for you and like the actual things.
Speaker 3: No, I think that this one in itself is very
Speaker 3: applicable not only to a creative outlet, but to like
Speaker 3: your normal processing, like every day perspective and like processing
Speaker 3: like how I'm going to do something, how I'm going
Speaker 3: to problem solve, how I'm going to communicate with someone,
Speaker 3: You're perspective. It's all about aligning.
Speaker 1: With creative intelligence, create.
Speaker 3: Your creative consciousness, right, aligning with and being able to
Speaker 3: retrieve that right. So it's it's all about that in
Speaker 3: itself can be applied to anything. And so we're like
Speaker 3: Gateway or anything else. It seems like it's very opening.
Speaker 1: Gateway is one O one, it's opening.
Speaker 3: This is very There's there's great tools and like things
Speaker 3: that you just you'll you'll just in your normal day,
Speaker 3: like something will come up and you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I know what to do with this now like you
Speaker 3: just and then it's I don't want to give away
Speaker 3: the secrets, but I have found it extremely useful in
Speaker 3: things outside of my creativity.
Speaker 1: It's more helpful for us who are about to experience
Speaker 1: it if she doesn't frontload us with like what we
Speaker 1: should expect will happen. But on the other hand, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, hearing about things that you cause I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I did talk to you guys, yeah, you know, days
Speaker 1: after you completed it, and I know that, like some
Speaker 1: people there were having very profound experiences. But I just
Speaker 1: want to say for the listener. So Monroe obviously has
Speaker 1: a lot of programs. And this is the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about this kind of situation that we're in is that
Speaker 1: Emily actually never had a gateway experience, because every time
Speaker 1: Emily has ever been invited to Monroe has been for
Speaker 1: a private, closed access retreat of two times residential going
Speaker 1: there in person twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: and then the creation station, which you just did like
Speaker 1: two or three weeks ago. And then when I was
Speaker 1: invited there, it was it was a private event, but
Speaker 1: it was the actual gateway. So whereas Emily has done
Speaker 1: a lot of profound Monroe techniques and exercises. It was accelerated,
Speaker 1: It was very accelerated. And then the difference is I
Speaker 1: started from literally step one, and over a week they
Speaker 1: walked me all the way through from like the technical like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, step by step perspective. So we had completely
Speaker 1: different experiences, but they were similar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's so cool. I loved listening to and
Speaker 3: we you know over when Ryan left Monroe, we talked
Speaker 3: in depth about it, but listening back on your episodes
Speaker 3: as well, we're really great because I realized how different
Speaker 3: our experiences were with my first and second time there,
Speaker 3: because literally I go, I had no idea what to expect.
Speaker 3: I was not prepped at all, and shame I was
Speaker 3: not really in the best state, I guess the first
Speaker 3: time I went. I was struggling pretty hard personally, whether
Speaker 3: or not I knew it had a lot of personal
Speaker 3: development happening at that time. And I went, and I
Speaker 3: was actually kind of nervous about going because we didn't
Speaker 3: know what this thing was. We didn't know, like you
Speaker 3: were invited out of the blue. We were invited, and
Speaker 3: Dad like really wanted me to go. I was not
Speaker 3: by him, but by like the collective that was involved.
Speaker 3: They were like really telling me, I need to go.
Speaker 3: I need to go, I need to go. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna go. I don't. I don't know
Speaker 3: what to expect. So I go there and it's like
Speaker 3: an accelerated program, which means like the stuff.
Speaker 1: That she went to levels that I didn't even have
Speaker 1: access to in a whole week.
Speaker 3: There, and I wasn't trained on.
Speaker 1: You to focus twenty seven.
Speaker 3: I wasn't like and that's when I had that really
Speaker 3: profound that one that I kept calling the vision quest
Speaker 3: because I was not like.
Speaker 1: Dude, let me put it this way.
Speaker 3: Everyone else that had been there like they they did
Speaker 3: that because they knew the people going there were either
Speaker 3: experiencers so they have like experience with consciousness or they
Speaker 3: had been through Monroe a bunch, so everyone there was
Speaker 3: safe to do these higher levels. But I didn't know
Speaker 3: what to expect. I did not, oh prep, And I'm
Speaker 3: not upset about it. It's amazing, like it was meant
Speaker 3: to be. But looking back, it's literally like I was
Speaker 3: just thrown in. I was just thrown in the deep end.
Speaker 3: They would briefly say okay, well just think about like
Speaker 3: a ball of energy like around you. Just think about
Speaker 3: it and you're like, okay, great, and then you it's
Speaker 3: just like you leave your body and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like what is this?
Speaker 1: I put it to you this way when I was
Speaker 1: there back in June, and I was sitting with Alan Evans,
Speaker 1: the CEO, and she's.
Speaker 3: Who taught me how to benspoons.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah that's cool.
Speaker 3: She's so sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's amazing, and yeah, I was sitting with
Speaker 1: her just after lunch, I think, and we were talking
Speaker 1: and she was like, how's Emily all, you know, Emily's
Speaker 1: great and all this, and how's your dad? And we
Speaker 1: were just catching up and then she said, I'll never
Speaker 1: forget it. Me and Bob Holbrook laugh about this all
Speaker 1: the time. Bob Holbrook is one of the audio engineers.
Speaker 1: And she said, me and Bob Holbrook laugh about this
Speaker 1: all the time. But Emily went to I think she
Speaker 1: said it was focused twenty seven and then she woke
Speaker 1: up from the meditation, you know what I mean, wake
Speaker 1: up like you're not asleep, but you're coming out of it, right,
Speaker 1: And she said, this is the part I will never
Speaker 1: forget that. She got out of the meditation, she picked
Speaker 1: up her phone. She called her husband Jack and said,
Speaker 1: I'm changed and hung up.
Speaker 3: I really did. I did, because I and.
Speaker 2: Why did you hang up?
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was joyful changed.
Speaker 2: Imagine that from his perspective, though, like that's beautiful and amazing.
Speaker 3: It was too changed.
Speaker 2: He must have been like, what, no, listen, like, what
Speaker 2: what does that mean? It's so good, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: But looking back from it's been a few years since then, now,
Speaker 3: like I said, I was struggling. I wasn't doing too great.
Speaker 3: Whether or not I realized it. I was not really
Speaker 3: in a good place. And I go there and I
Speaker 3: just remember looking back that I was very very shy,
Speaker 3: very quiet, kind of sad like, and there's all these
Speaker 3: amazing Monroe people and all these amazing experiencers were meeting
Speaker 3: and like all this stuff happening, and I was just
Speaker 3: like polite and I was enjoying myself, but I was
Speaker 3: just kind of sad, you know, just really low energy,
Speaker 3: not big personality. I was, you know, just very dull,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 3: Each experience I had there, each tape we did I
Speaker 3: just remember crying and like releasing something. Whether or not
Speaker 3: I was seeing something, I would just have this big
Speaker 3: emotional release or something would transform or shift and I
Speaker 3: would see things and like maybe leave my body. But
Speaker 3: then on that final one was when I had that
Speaker 3: really intense out of body and I felt so incredibly
Speaker 3: light after it. I couldn't stop smiling. I was jumpy
Speaker 3: and bouncy, and I just was like I'm changed. Like
Speaker 3: I just was like euphoric, and I didn't know how
Speaker 3: to explain it other than that. And Bob is just
Speaker 3: it's funny because Bob is like he's a hilarious guy.
Speaker 3: He's really kind of dry humor, so he doesn't like
Speaker 3: laugh a whole lot, but he thought that was funny
Speaker 3: and he was he was laughing pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like I was just kind of like shy,
Speaker 3: quiet Emily the whole time, like Chris's little daughter, you know.
Speaker 3: And then I was just like I'm changed and like
Speaker 3: happy and funny.
Speaker 2: But how far through the weekend was that.
Speaker 3: It was the last meditation?
Speaker 2: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: So it was the final night.
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you have to integrate, which is like
Speaker 3: that's rough. Now that you've been through it, though. I
Speaker 3: love getting to see how you've been experiencing it because
Speaker 3: it actually helps me understand better what I've been going through,
Speaker 3: because it's very rough for me because they just kind
Speaker 3: of tell you, or they at the time, they just
Speaker 3: kind of told me, like, just try to stay grounded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're like, groundings important, it's really important.
Speaker 3: And you're like, months later, you're like, what.
Speaker 1: Am I ground No? I mean it's not quite like.
Speaker 3: That, but I never felt unsafe. I don't mean to
Speaker 3: sound like that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly why it was so rough because
Speaker 1: when I was there for the first time in my life,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in an environment where I
Speaker 1: was normal, Like I wasn't the weird one, you know,
Speaker 1: and everything that was happening there was just completely normal
Speaker 1: and acceptable by everybody. And I was actually pretty happy
Speaker 1: to come home. But then when I got home, it
Speaker 1: just kind of settled in, like what if I never
Speaker 1: feel that way again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, fear? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, something that I what.
Speaker 1: If I never feel like in that kind of environment again?
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, something that I thought was kind of profound
Speaker 3: is like, when you've experienced consciousness like this, you can't
Speaker 3: un you can't unknow it coaster.
Speaker 1: Once you've been on a crazy rollercoaster for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life, you know what it's like being on.
Speaker 3: A roller You just you just can't unknow it.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Applying that to your life is it's a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: But this time I felt like the integration was you know,
Speaker 3: I was expecting it. It wasn't anything crazy, but there
Speaker 3: was a lot of synchronicities and pre s pre I
Speaker 3: kept calling them pre memories. So okay, let me explain.
Speaker 3: You know, Ignasio shout out, Ignosio, love you, love you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Ignatio is a wonderful, wonderful, uh wonderful human being.
Speaker 3: He is, he's he's my bud, and he he led
Speaker 3: creation station for my group. And so I texted him
Speaker 3: before the event and I was like, are pre memories normal?
Speaker 3: And he was like, I was hoping you'd notice. So
Speaker 3: I hope that's not I hope that's not private. I
Speaker 3: should have said that. But basically, it's like my interpretation is,
Speaker 3: you know, as you're approaching this, this event where you're
Speaker 3: going to be exploring consciousness, your consciousness is already altered
Speaker 3: before you experience it, like.
Speaker 1: More or less it's aware because you've had the intention and.
Speaker 3: Your Yeah, like the intention is set leading up to
Speaker 3: the event like time space, right, So from the time
Speaker 3: you've accepted I'm doing this thing, it's already shifted, it's
Speaker 3: already different. And then I was having a lot of
Speaker 3: pre memory I just was calling them pre memories. It's
Speaker 3: like I would just see something happen, and then it
Speaker 3: would happen later. It felt like recalling a memory, but
Speaker 3: it hitn't happened yet, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's I've had that kind of stuff my
Speaker 2: whole life, and it's it's usually in like either really
Speaker 2: significant moments of my life or like really mundane moments
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Like, I had had a recurring dream that happened maybe
Speaker 2: two or three times, and I never knew what it was.
Speaker 2: And then the day of my wedding, I looked around
Speaker 2: and was like, oh my god, this is it. We
Speaker 2: were like getting changed. It was like me and my
Speaker 2: groomsmen getting changed, and it was like we were getting
Speaker 2: changed in some weird storage room. So when I would
Speaker 2: have the dream, I'd be like where am I? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and why are these specific people around me? And then
Speaker 2: it happened, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, whoa, Well, it's like your I guess it's kind
Speaker 3: of like your consciousness imprints significant moments and then you
Speaker 3: can just tap into it at different times in your life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think leading up to a big event like Monroe,
Speaker 3: where you're really diving into consciousness, you're tapping into that stuff.
Speaker 3: So I was having a bunch of pre memories of
Speaker 3: stuff that I was going to in the future experience
Speaker 3: through that, which is really cool. But I brought my
Speaker 3: little what do you call it? What is this a journal?
Speaker 3: I brought my journal?
Speaker 2: Dang, you filled that thing out.
Speaker 3: Well, this was my first one. So this is from
Speaker 3: my original trip. Oh no, and my second trip. So
Speaker 3: this has all three of my.
Speaker 1: O oh wow, that's cool. That's a good idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all in one.
Speaker 1: Very cool. I learned a long time ago that when
Speaker 1: you're having like a glitch when with your words, it's
Speaker 1: easier to just own it and just scratch you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be stuttering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where where where do you
Speaker 3: want to go from here? Like what should I.
Speaker 1: Well, we we still haven't really talked about creation station,
Speaker 1: like we've we've only scratched the surface. I want to know, like,
Speaker 1: what did you experience? Again, I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to be only and it's it's
Speaker 1: only because for the audience who's listening. It's not that
Speaker 1: we're trying. It's not a secret. It's just we are
Speaker 1: about to actually go through it. Like the BSS team
Speaker 1: is literally about to take Creation Station in December. So
Speaker 1: and and Ignacio basically told me, like, the less we
Speaker 1: know about the process, you know about to go into it,
Speaker 1: it's just better for us, you know, to go in
Speaker 1: with like open expectations. But he was like, but you
Speaker 1: guys should talk about like your individual experiences and you
Speaker 1: know your experience, right, Like this happened to me. I
Speaker 1: felt this, So would you say it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: were you speaking to your higher self? Yeah? I can
Speaker 1: tell you what kind of phenomenon occurred.
Speaker 3: Like, okay, So let me say with Creation Station, the
Speaker 3: goal isn't to just leave your body. That's not what
Speaker 3: this is. This is about practicable. This is practical, like
Speaker 3: you're going to do higher consciousness stuff. If that happens,
Speaker 3: great it could, right, but this is more about learning
Speaker 3: to navigate your creativity.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it's specifically for, like creatives.
Speaker 3: It's so creatives being musicians, artists, business owners, people that
Speaker 3: problem solve which is everybody. So everyone could really benefit
Speaker 3: from this, but especially people who depend on that creative sauce.
Speaker 2: To That's the thing, the creative sauce, like the the
Speaker 2: whatever that is like the inspiration right out there.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because you talked about, uh, you asked
Speaker 3: me a few years ago. You're like, do you believe
Speaker 3: in the muse? This is kind of goes with that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I need it. I need it.
Speaker 3: It is so like that.
Speaker 2: I need to just like I feel like it's so fickle.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not right. I know it's not I know
Speaker 2: there's a way that I can like tune into it.
Speaker 3: This is perfect.
Speaker 2: I need that.
Speaker 3: This is perfect. Yeah, so I can kind of share, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 2: To know like your takeaways, like some of the things
Speaker 2: that it might have helped with, and how.
Speaker 1: Was it integrating after that? Do you feel like, similar
Speaker 1: to your first Monroe trip and maybe even your second
Speaker 1: monro trip, that that now that your two weeks post
Speaker 1: creation station, has it made lasting changes in your perspective
Speaker 1: about things. These are the kinds of things that I'm
Speaker 1: curious to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it has made huge changes. I
Speaker 3: would say lasting. It's only been a few weeks, but
Speaker 3: I really do feel a difference from it.
Speaker 1: Is it compounding from the other two Monroe experiences, Like, yes.
Speaker 3: They build really well, they partner really well, But this
Speaker 3: feels way more practical than the other two. This feels
Speaker 3: like something I can apply when I'm not listening to
Speaker 3: the tapes, you know what I mean? Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: just throughout the day and so like I would you know,
Speaker 3: you're doing all the meditations, I would have different experiences
Speaker 3: with each one. Like for one, I would just have
Speaker 3: immediate like through the methods you're doing right, I would
Speaker 3: have immediate answers to problems I was having with certain things,
Speaker 3: specifically with music, Like what's the answer to this thing?
Speaker 3: I would just I it would come to me. I
Speaker 3: know what to do now, and that's it. I know
Speaker 3: I know what to do. Literally wrote an entire new
Speaker 3: song in that weekend just because of this, Like it
Speaker 3: just it and it's I will share about this. So
Speaker 3: I was telling Ignacio, I actually told you Nick a
Speaker 3: few months ago there's like this presence. There's this song
Speaker 3: that keeps coming to me, and I just keep getting
Speaker 3: flashes in my mind of this butterfly and it's like
Speaker 3: bluish purple, and I don't this doesn't have to make
Speaker 3: sense to anyone but me, but this is what was
Speaker 3: showing up for me. And it had like these these
Speaker 3: eyes or something, and as soon as I would try
Speaker 3: to view it, I knew it was like the presence
Speaker 3: of a song coming in a way that I could
Speaker 3: recognize it in my own consciousness or whatever. I couldn't
Speaker 3: like really capture it. It was just there. And so
Speaker 3: through some different tactics, I didn't even have to think
Speaker 3: about that butterfly. I forgot about it. I like completely
Speaker 3: forgot about it. But through this that song came through
Speaker 3: and I realized it was the butterfly. And it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it was just there the whole time,
Speaker 3: you know, blah blah blah. These are the tools to
Speaker 3: help me access it, not to capture it because it's
Speaker 3: already there, not to learn about it because it's already there.
Speaker 3: It's like I want to remember it. I want to
Speaker 3: remember the song. Yes, help me remember the song or whatever.
Speaker 3: Help me see this song from a different perspective so
Speaker 3: I can bring it out, you know, and so bringing
Speaker 3: that forward and learning about sort of timing and how
Speaker 3: important that is, because I felt like this song couldn't
Speaker 3: come through without me watching a specific episode a tailor
Speaker 3: Room Crystal. But I was watching that weekend in between
Speaker 3: like when our day would end. Jack was out of town,
Speaker 3: so it was just me. So that's all I was
Speaker 3: watching all weekend, and there was like this specific moment
Speaker 3: that happened and the music and what happened in the episode.
Speaker 3: It just hit me, this is what I need. And
Speaker 3: so it's like learning to access not only the juice,
Speaker 3: like the signs too, the signs and picking up the
Speaker 3: little new one.
Speaker 1: Me and Jenny had a billion moments like that with
Speaker 1: the Sopranos, you know what. I think, just to add
Speaker 1: on to like the validity of what you're experiencing. I've
Speaker 1: noticed that there are sometimes like because you know, by myself,
Speaker 1: I'll watch you know, like superhero shows, anime stuff like that,
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously my wife doesn't like stuff like that,
Speaker 1: So then when it's she and I hanging out, we'll
Speaker 1: watch things like the Sopranos or you know, maybe a
Speaker 1: comedy or a drama or reality show, things that we
Speaker 1: both can enjoy together. It's just kind of how we,
Speaker 1: you know, get along in that arena. And I've noticed
Speaker 1: that when I watch shows with her sometimes we both
Speaker 1: experience major synchronicities from those shows. Typically, the shows that
Speaker 1: we experience major synchronicities from tend to have some sort
Speaker 1: of ritual or occult symbolism in them. So I wonder
Speaker 1: if there are shows that have some sort of occult
Speaker 1: symbolism or spiritual themes in them, Sailor Moon, Dark Crystal,
Speaker 1: does that allow them to maybe be like some sort
Speaker 1: of vessel for these synchronicities to potentially happen. Is there
Speaker 1: more of an energy to shows that happen?
Speaker 3: It could be.
Speaker 1: I know that's off topic what you're saying.
Speaker 3: But it could be.
Speaker 1: I mean, thinking about this a lot lately.
Speaker 3: It could be. And specifically with that show, Like I
Speaker 3: don't I don't want to spoil it if y'all whatever
Speaker 3: it wants, but sorry, but literally, like Sailor Moon, you
Speaker 3: know she Okay, I won't go to in detail, but
Speaker 3: stuff weird starts like weird, stuff starts happening in Tokyo.
Speaker 3: Her name is Usagi, which is like rabbit. But anyway,
Speaker 3: Uzagi starts the.
Speaker 1: Moon the Moon rabbit, Rabbit, that's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And so she starts noticing weird stuff happening,
Speaker 3: and like Tokyo's in trouble, and it's like these weird
Speaker 3: evil entities are like forces are using things like computers
Speaker 3: and consumerism to like harvest the energy of people. They're
Speaker 3: using like jewelry stores. Everyone's buying the materialism, they're playing
Speaker 3: video games and they're draining their energy. And Usagisagi like
Speaker 3: finds this cat who starts talking to her and is like,
Speaker 3: you know, your sailor Moon and she awakens as the
Speaker 3: sailor Guardian, who's the guardian of the Moon, right, And
Speaker 3: so anyway, as time progresses, the other guardians awaken and
Speaker 3: they're all protected by their own planet. So there's Jupiter,
Speaker 3: Mars Venus, well not yet but she comes later, but Mercury,
Speaker 3: and they're all protected by their own planet. And their
Speaker 3: whole goal is to find the princess. Who's the princess,
Speaker 3: the Princess of the Moon. We have to find her
Speaker 3: and protect her because she possesses the legendary silver crystal,
Speaker 3: which is like the protecting life force of this solar system.
Speaker 3: Like without it, if these entities that are harvesting energy
Speaker 3: find it, everyone's gonna die, which is what happened to
Speaker 3: the Moon civilization in ancient times. So you find out
Speaker 3: they're all reincarnations of the ancient reincar. They're literally they're
Speaker 3: like middle school girls that awaken as these ancient celestial
Speaker 3: beings that were reincarnated from before the Earth civilization was
Speaker 3: wiped out and renewed this time. That is sick, I know,
Speaker 3: and so and they yeah, it's so good. And then
Speaker 3: you find out, like this is a big spoiler, you
Speaker 3: find out Sailor Moon is the Princess I she's Princess Serenity.
Speaker 3: And then like she becomes this like literally when she
Speaker 3: in the future becomes the Queen, she's like the lady.
Speaker 3: She's literally like the lady and she can't be a
Speaker 3: Sailor Guardian anymore because she's just like this holy figure.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And then her her husband and all this a tuxedo mask.
Speaker 3: Tuxedo mask, oh hell yeah. Yeah, Well you find out
Speaker 3: that was always like my dude hers yeah, no, that's me, mama, Yeah,
Speaker 3: his name is Mammurmu. But they they find out he
Speaker 3: was the ancient prince of Earth and they fell in love.
Speaker 3: It was kind of forbidden, and then the earth people
Speaker 3: killed everyone in the moon and uh. Anyway, so it's
Speaker 3: like very tight end. Like she's like the lady, but
Speaker 3: she's also like just a human and to me, like,
Speaker 3: I'm not the lady, but I have experienced with the
Speaker 3: phenomenon and I'm just like a girl, just like a
Speaker 3: normal girl, and all of this crazy pressure of like
Speaker 3: not I don't mean to say it like that, but
Speaker 3: like this pressure of all of the story and everything happening.
Speaker 3: It's like this is big stuff and I'm just like
Speaker 3: a little girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like sometimes it feels like sometimes.
Speaker 3: It feels that and she's just experiencing this and fighting
Speaker 3: these evil forces. And then Sailor Pluto comes in and
Speaker 3: can like change time and this like moment happens and
Speaker 3: then the music is just so gorgeous, and I was like,
Speaker 3: that's that's what I needed. And my song doesn't copy that,
Speaker 3: but it just it's the feeling. It's a feeling that clicks.
Speaker 2: So what I was gonna say when Ryan, because I
Speaker 2: think totally like it could be that esoteric, occult charged
Speaker 2: shows the charge give you let you pick up on
Speaker 2: some stuff. But in my personal experience, it is normally
Speaker 2: when I am watching like a show, a movie, playing
Speaker 2: a video game, whatever, and there's something happens that I
Speaker 2: relate to that where I feel like I felt like.
Speaker 3: That you resonate with it, and that resonance is what
Speaker 3: brings forth thick dude.
Speaker 2: The idea, the music, our whole entire freaking twice born
Speaker 2: album we're working on is all shows, movies, and video games.
Speaker 2: It's all stuff based off of that, and it's because
Speaker 2: like that's how ideas come through to me. I'll be
Speaker 2: like playing a game and it's the story. It's if
Speaker 2: I relate to something, I can just start to hear
Speaker 2: music in my head. It might not sound anything like
Speaker 2: the things music, but it's just the feeling that comes
Speaker 2: inside of me. I'm like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 2: making something happen, and I can hear it so vividly,
Speaker 2: but it's just like fleeting for me. Sometimes it's like
Speaker 2: it's there and it's gone. I want to I want
Speaker 2: to like home, You're to capturing you.
Speaker 3: You're going to learn how to witness that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like I used to be great
Speaker 2: with that. I feel like I used to have it.
Speaker 2: I used to have the ability, and so I know
Speaker 2: it's still in there. I just need to like remember
Speaker 2: how to do it. I feel like I don't remember
Speaker 2: how to do it. It used to feel so easy. It
Speaker 2: just came and I got it, and I would know
Speaker 2: the whole thing. I'd get an idea and like chase
Speaker 2: it and the whole song would be like written fairly quickly.
Speaker 2: These days, it's not as easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's just like the stresses of growing
Speaker 2: up and having more going on in life or I
Speaker 2: don't know, but it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be a lot of reasons. I mean,
Speaker 3: it seems like the the more you've got going on,
Speaker 3: the more space is taken up inside.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it feels like.
Speaker 3: And it's harder to get the clarity that is because
Speaker 3: it's like the idea, like the business you're creating, the
Speaker 3: song you're writing, the whatever you're doing is already it
Speaker 3: already exists. It's not that you have to make it.
Speaker 3: If you're trying too hard, you're doing it wrong.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 3: It's about accessing the clarity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or making space for it maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't want to give too much of like what
Speaker 3: it is, because it could you could say it a
Speaker 3: million ways in a way that resonates with you. For me,
Speaker 3: it's about perspective. It's like shifting the perspective, okay, because
Speaker 3: something that I will say that was brilliant that Ignacio
Speaker 3: told me was like, you can never like fully quiet
Speaker 3: your mind, like you never will. So it's it's it's
Speaker 3: about how do what do.
Speaker 2: We do with that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? How to work around you can't.
Speaker 3: Shut it off?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And so if this is just my take, like if
Speaker 3: you're trying to shut off your brain, how much energy
Speaker 3: is that taking up? And how much space is that
Speaker 3: putting away for the creative stuff?
Speaker 1: And he's he's a great resource for this kind of
Speaker 1: situation and challenge to overcome because his background is he's
Speaker 1: he's a pianist, but like he has a specific background, right.
Speaker 3: He's a very accomplished pianist, right, Yeah, And he's been
Speaker 3: teaching for many years and he writes music.
Speaker 1: I seem to remember there was some specific.
Speaker 3: I don't know the depth of everything he's done, but
Speaker 3: I know he's been like He's been a very accomplished
Speaker 3: teacher and pianist, and.
Speaker 1: He writes a lot of like Rose music for the tracks.
Speaker 3: He's like one of their music Monroe, and he's a
Speaker 3: sound engineer with Monroe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's incredible, and.
Speaker 3: He's he works with their Collaborating artist program, which is
Speaker 3: what I'm doing, which is so exciting. I can't talk
Speaker 3: about it too much right now, but we will.
Speaker 1: You wanted me last night, You told me to not
Speaker 1: let you talk about.
Speaker 2: That, so not too much.
Speaker 3: I can say that like I can say, you know,
Speaker 3: because it is so important to me right now. It's like,
Speaker 3: this is my whole thing at the moment, is really
Speaker 3: fleshing out to bring forth this music that I've been
Speaker 3: working on for two years. But I know now why
Speaker 3: it's taken us so long to do it is because
Speaker 3: it was meant to for the timing it had to
Speaker 3: come through. Now I'm collaborating with Monroe to make it
Speaker 3: something it wouldn't have been if we had produced it
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. And it seems like the
Speaker 2: ideas are coming like and.
Speaker 3: Now I can't slow them down.
Speaker 2: Right They're hitting with That's when you want to bottle
Speaker 2: it when it's coming through, like you just said earlier,
Speaker 2: like when you when you have to work to make
Speaker 2: it come out, when you're like trying to force it out,
Speaker 2: it's not it doesn't work that way. Like the on
Speaker 2: our EP, that song Rose that we made. I wrote
Speaker 2: that song five different times because every time I was
Speaker 2: forcing it to like gotta sound like this, It's gotta
Speaker 2: sound like this. Literally five full songs exist on my
Speaker 2: hard drive that just didn't make it. And it was
Speaker 2: finally when I.
Speaker 3: Well you came up, was great, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2: It was like I finally was like I'm going to
Speaker 2: shut everything off, put on some frequencies in my ears,
Speaker 2: and meditate and sit at my desk and just I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna even pick up an instrument. I just wanted
Speaker 2: to come to me first. Yeah, and it finally eventually did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Literally, when I was making my your holistic voice, I
Speaker 3: would just shut off my brain as you know, as
Speaker 3: best as you can, yeah, and put in frequencies and
Speaker 3: just go oh. I made the entire program just listening
Speaker 3: to frequencies. I don't even remember everything exactly, like I
Speaker 3: know the content obviously, like I had the education. Like
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I just made it. No like it
Speaker 3: has worth, but it's like how I pieced together. I
Speaker 3: don't think I could have come.
Speaker 2: Up with you just went like flow state, like yeah,
Speaker 2: full it just came out.
Speaker 1: What frequencies did you use?
Speaker 3: Actually, at the time, I was just using whatever Monroe
Speaker 3: tapes I had at the time, I had like four.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they like. I don't even know
Speaker 3: what they The target wasn't no, no, no, it was
Speaker 3: like the ones I got from being there. I don't
Speaker 3: even know what the levels was.
Speaker 1: So it's the ones that would be in the files.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just do use those, and then I would
Speaker 3: just use theta fata waves.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wish I had more context on
Speaker 1: those frequencies that we were given, and now I have
Speaker 1: like a different perspective on them, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see how those feel after having
Speaker 1: right been like through the training and everything.
Speaker 3: But well with this with Creation Station, I didn't go
Speaker 3: to in depth on it during the experience, but I
Speaker 3: I did have some body leaving moments, oh when.
Speaker 2: You were at home?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done that before, but yeah I did. And
Speaker 3: there was one thing in particular that I didn't tell
Speaker 3: you last night, Ryan, because I was hoping you could share.
Speaker 3: Is it okay for you to share what dad his
Speaker 3: dream was? Because I wanted to say this on the yeah,
Speaker 3: because something that I experienced in my out of body
Speaker 3: when I was doing Creation station really resonated with me.
Speaker 3: From what you said, and I didn't hear about his dream.
Speaker 1: I'm going to share the dream first, let me find it.
Speaker 1: I haven't said it on the show. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I have, at least on full disclosure. But when the
Speaker 1: eclipse happened, that was April eighth, which was eight days
Speaker 1: after Easter, which to Dad that was very significant and okay,
Speaker 1: So the day after the eclipse, I was here working
Speaker 1: on the house and Dad was like, son, I had
Speaker 1: a dream last night and it was so vivid. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh cool, tell me about it. And he said, well,
Speaker 1: I dreamed that there were these seven sons on the
Speaker 1: horizon and they were slowly setting, just descending beneath the horizon,
Speaker 1: and then they were gone, and then one big, massive
Speaker 1: son started descending above the horizon, and he said it
Speaker 1: came to him that the seven Sons were like the
Speaker 1: old powers of darkness going away, and that the one
Speaker 1: son was the Lady God, the new Rain returning, and
Speaker 1: that we were entering the shift into the Age of
Speaker 1: Aquarius with the with the eclipse.
Speaker 2: I was like, whoa damn okay.
Speaker 1: And ever since Dad's been like, we're we shifted. It
Speaker 1: was due clips. We're in the Age of Aquarius. So
Speaker 1: I've been like, yes, sir, like you know, i'd take
Speaker 1: his dreams seriously. But yeah, Emily didn't know that. It's
Speaker 1: it's just kind of hard for us to communicate all
Speaker 1: the time when Dad lives in Fayetteville and then we
Speaker 1: live here in Wilmington, and then Emily lives in Florida,
Speaker 1: and Jeremy lives in Greenville, so yeah, and obviously Junior's
Speaker 1: in Fayeville. But yeah, Emily just heard that last night.
Speaker 3: I heard that last night because we were watching Labyrinth. Labyrinth,
Speaker 3: which is one of my fairy favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 3: Ryan would never watch it with me growing up.
Speaker 2: I just saw it for the first time like this year.
Speaker 2: Would you think it was awesome? It was wild? That
Speaker 2: was really cool because well, you remember, we watched Never
Speaker 2: Ending Story for the first time like last year or
Speaker 2: the year before something like that, and I fell in
Speaker 2: love with that. Yeah, and Labyrinth seemed like a similar vibe.
Speaker 1: I've got a whole list of like those kinds of
Speaker 1: movies that have been like recommended to me, like Legend, oh,
Speaker 1: Dragon Slayer, a few.
Speaker 2: Like dark fantasy movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, The Sword and the Sorcerer, Labyrinth, Labyrinth.
Speaker 3: I've seen it more times than I could ever try
Speaker 3: to count. It was one of my comfort movies when
Speaker 3: all the UFO stuff was happening. I watched it like
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 2: There was like a fifty to fifty chance that I
Speaker 2: could hear Labyrinth coming out of your bedroom. No, that's
Speaker 2: like not an exaggerate. Always it was either Ocarina of
Speaker 2: Time Sounds or Labyrinth or Yeah or Halo. Yes that's funny.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, you ever played.
Speaker 3: Labyrinth so much? I know all the words. But Ryan
Speaker 3: finally watched it with me, and uh.
Speaker 1: I told you the dream.
Speaker 3: You told me the dream, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: what I had I've been, you know, for the past
Speaker 3: few weeks, I've been trying to figure out like what
Speaker 3: does that mean, that that out of body thing that
Speaker 3: happened to me? What does that mean? And now I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: it's coming together because I don't remember, and I can't
Speaker 3: find it.
Speaker 1: Weird things happened in the backyard house. It was so weird.
Speaker 2: It's coming closer.
Speaker 1: To us, closer.
Speaker 2: I your stay his straight up.
Speaker 1: Like smiring on.
Speaker 2: The inside of it. No one knows.
Speaker 1: Mad.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's come.
Speaker 1: H I've ever got a
Speaker 2: Solid d kanadasaaa