WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:13.240 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. I 2 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:15.320 am your host is always Mike Maharty here is always 3 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:17.679 with the bad boy of games media, as he's come 4 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:18.920 to be known, Dan Riikert. 5 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.960 You realize you're stealing a gimmick there, right, is it? Am? 6 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.320 I really? Yeah? Which Jan introduces Mike Manatti on the 7 00:00:25.320 --> 00:00:26.079 Oh does he really? 8 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.519 To be clear, I don't listen to ship from Giant Bombs, 9 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:29.359 so that's probably why I don't know. 10 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:31.960 I don't listen to anything anywhere. But I'm always sorry, 11 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:33.679 let me start, let me start. I'm aware of that. 12 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.240 Sorry, Jan, Sorry, Mike, bad boy. 13 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:37.320 Mike Manatty's gonna kick your ass. 14 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:39.399 And he's already really happy that we mentioned his name 15 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.119 before we've even introduced everyone on this. 16 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:44.479 He does strike me as like a serial narcissist. 17 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:47.000 Oh, he would be the first to admit that. Yes, okay, cool, 18 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.320 you restarted on the house singing songs? Been inserting his 19 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.320 name into songs all the time? Yeah, okay, okay, let's restart. 20 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:56.799 What's Pucci? Stanley Tucci? I'm your host, Mike Maharty here 21 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:00.840 is always with the milk toast. Dan Reikert, that's me 22 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:10.640 and everybody's favorite comedian, Mary Kesh. 23 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.560 Milk dust is your punishment for correcting him. I would 24 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:13.959 much rather be the bad boy than milk toast. 25 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.959 I just can't steal someoney's gimmick. Look, I can't do gimmick. 26 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:18.640 Not a co owner with me. 27 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:20.920 That's a valid point. I don't want to take away 28 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:22.319 Mike's his aura. 29 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:25.799 Yeah, we're technically co owners also here, I guess we 30 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:27.000 own fire Escape. 31 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:28.400 Yeah, can't we. 32 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.439 Steal someone I actually owned seventy five percent? I just 33 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:30.840 didn't tell you. 34 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:33.959 Guys, work you got that thirty three going on. 35 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:35.959 That'd be funny. 36 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:39.799 You would be okay with stealing someone else's gimmick if. 37 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.719 You want to as someone who respects the business a lot, 38 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:44.000 and that's a wrestling thing. 39 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:46.000 Mary and I know the Best. 40 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.359 Game of the Week. 41 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:48.760 What's that? 42 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:49.799 Besties? 43 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:55.760 Oh yes, I totally listened to all of these. 44 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:04.280 Pod Yeah, Chris Plant I think dabbles in fire Escape. Chris, 45 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:06.239 I really do like the Best Ofies. I like their 46 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.960 Game of the Year turns. We literally stole that. 47 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.280 Apologies that I stolen or apologies that Dan had no 48 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.560 idea what their gimmick? 49 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:16.120 Listen, I love so many people in this industry. I've 50 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:18.199 never listened to any of your podcast once. 51 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:18.439 Oh. 52 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:21.319 I don't even listen to this back unless there's controversial stuff. 53 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.120 I've never heard an episode of this no. 54 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:24.879 Oh, speaking of a lot of people came out of 55 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:26.719 the woodwork supporting your Hamilton opinion. 56 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:31.159 Dan, Thank you everyone, Thank you rational adults. 57 00:02:31.319 --> 00:02:33.639 Yeah, I guess so, I guess I'm the minority. 58 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:34.680 I was afraid. 59 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:37.520 I was afraid of them, Mary, Mary, why would you 60 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:41.439 be You're afraid of musical theater fans. That seems like 61 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:43.039 the least intimidating group ever. 62 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.639 No, they're very Me and Mike naughty will take me 63 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:47.680 and the bad boy of games media will take you 64 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:49.759 out next time we see you. 65 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:54.520 Yes, adults got used to be careful. 66 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:56.560 I'm harmless, Mike. 67 00:02:56.719 --> 00:02:58.199 I've known you long enough. If you wanted to kick 68 00:02:58.199 --> 00:02:59.400 my ass at some point, you would have done it 69 00:02:59.400 --> 00:02:59.680 by now. 70 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:02.759 I don't want to. Well, I actually no, that's not true. 71 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:04.439 I want I have wanted to, but I don't. 72 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:06.520 I can state it was it the Turkey roll night. 73 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:12.120 No, that was funny, Okay, I remember specifically because I 74 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.759 remember hoped like it was when last time you were 75 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:17.960 here in my apartment to clarify, I live on a 76 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.599 fourth floor walk out, so you have to go up one, two, 77 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.280 three flights of stairs to get there. It's fourth floor 78 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.120 because it's a garden level. 79 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:24.919 Don't do math. 80 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:28.159 Don't don't come at me with a math And yeah, 81 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:31.520 we've talked about this. That show. You grab my ankle 82 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:33.120 each time I took a step because you were right 83 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:34.719 behind me, and I told you on the first flight 84 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.240 of stairs. Dude, that's that's really annoying me. I it 85 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:40.560 was so frustrating to me. And there's that element of 86 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:42.759 like a bit of autism on my end, where like 87 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:46.159 if I'm trying to convey an emotion and I don't 88 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.879 know how else to amplify, like I can't get much 89 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.919 farther than Dan, that's really fucking annoying. 90 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:52.639 I'm not kidding. 91 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.879 I don't know how to go above that. You forced 92 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.479 me to like become a different person on the next 93 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:00.199 floor who could somehow get it. 94 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.199 Yeah, it was challenging you to basically evolve as a person. 95 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.479 There's like, you know, like Liam Beeson and Batman Beginns. 96 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.199 I was trying to be that for you. I was 97 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.919 trying to get you to confront who you are and evolved. 98 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.560 My ros al ghoul on the way up my stairs. 99 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.280 Exactly, you're gonna kill me on a train. 100 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:18.360 Your daughter's gonna come back in the future posing as 101 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:18.920 someone else. 102 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:21.800 Yeah, of course Amanda's your daughter. Mh. 103 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.240 This is all making great sense. Speaking of movies. We're 104 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:27.920 not going to talk about it, so no spoiler warning necessary. 105 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:30.199 Mary and I have seen Weapons Dan. You're seeing it 106 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:30.639 in like. 107 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.879 Five hours, five hours from now. Yes, yes, I'm very 108 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.959 excited we talk. It's again going blind. 109 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.480 If you haven't seen a trailer, I all I'll say 110 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.199 is I heavily recommend you go see it. 111 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.600 If you're going to be a horror guy. Normally. 112 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:47.360 It shows the power of Mary's recommendation of Barbarian because 113 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:48.240 I love that so much. 114 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.560 The same director for contexts for those who might not. 115 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:52.399 Know, Yeah, this probably wouldn't have been on my radar, 116 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:54.480 but I love Barbarian a lot. So I'm doing the 117 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.439 same thing this time, just going in totally blind. So 118 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:58.240 thank you Mary once again for that recommendation. 119 00:04:58.639 --> 00:04:59.199 Yeah. 120 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.600 Yeah, if you have time after text or hit us 121 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.360 up in the discord with thoughts at your hot immediate take. 122 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:09.800 Talk about it in a future episode because I don't 123 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:14.680 even similarly to Barbarian. I don't want to color your 124 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.519 thoughts of what it is, but I do think I 125 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.800 do think it's worth seeing, and I think there are 126 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.120 similarities in the way that they are directing this that 127 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.199 I think are will be interesting to people. I also 128 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.560 will say I just think it's good to see in 129 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:31.600 a theater because this type of film. Similar I did 130 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:33.759 not see Barbarian in theaters, which is a bummer, but like, 131 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.360 I think similarly, this is the type of film where 132 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:39.120 people in the audience will go and it's really fun 133 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.480 to see a movie in an auditorium where everybody kind 134 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.680 of goes or like yeah, maybe giggles and you know 135 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.439 what I mean. And so like this has a good 136 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:50.839 audience vibe. I had that with Sinners as well, Like 137 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:55.040 the audience was like they were hollering in my in 138 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:57.639 my live screen of this, and I was like, I 139 00:05:57.720 --> 00:05:58.480 was here for it. 140 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.560 I was in the zone because they were in the zone. 141 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.079 So I think this is a good movie to see 142 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.000 in theaters because of that, because the audience will all 143 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:07.560 collectively say the same thing. 144 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:10.639 I think horror and comedy are both they're really helped 145 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.920 by the theater environment. Like did I talk last time 146 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:14.639 about Naked Gun and just seeing it with just like 147 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:16.480 you know, it was just like seven of us in 148 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:18.040 the theater crack and happen, Like there's just something about 149 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:19.680 that environment that I just love for horror. 150 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:22.240 And I'm going to see Naked Doun tomorrow and. 151 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:27.120 Since I saw it about it, I maybe that's what 152 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:27.560 I do. 153 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.319 I'm in LA this coming week and I've got some 154 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.839 like obviously just like back to back in a studio. 155 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:34.879 Maybe that I go see Naked Gun on. 156 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:36.839 My own show, I would want to hear from both that'd. 157 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.519 Be sad to see Naked Gun by myself. 158 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.279 No, it's not that I would care. 159 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.639 I would still do it another movie that was like okay, yeah, 160 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:46.199 so these days, I think we've talked about it. You 161 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.839 can get really shitty theater experiences for people who did 162 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:51.560 not Like I don't. I'm not I don't want to 163 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:53.199 make gen Z a boogeyman, but I'm just saying I 164 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.720 think there are young people who didn't grow up with 165 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.800 theaters as like the only way to see a movie. 166 00:06:57.800 --> 00:06:59.800 So when they go, it's very social for them, and 167 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:01.920 they can be loud and talking over stuff, and you 168 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.040 can get a really bad theater audience. However, I also 169 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:09.519 Minecraft experience. I had a really good weapons audience. And 170 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.720 the first movie, the movie that saved movies. If you 171 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:15.759 didn't hear Top Gun Maverick, that crowd was awesome too. 172 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:17.560 It was like they were cheering when he did the 173 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:19.480 time trial thing and all the right moments. Did you 174 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.720 say you had a bad Minecraft experience. 175 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.000 No, I'm just saying the Minecraft experience with children is 176 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:28.160 like notoriously bad because they scream and throw popcorn during 177 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.079 that scene, and it was kind of like it was 178 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:34.160 kind of the bane of theater workers because they were like, 179 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:36.160 we had to clean all that shit up as someone. 180 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.560 Who used to have to clean theaters after like movies 181 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:40.000 with a bunch of fucking kids, And I was working 182 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:41.959 the theater when Toy Story two came out and it 183 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:44.279 was in our four biggest theaters, and that was hell 184 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.040 cleaning that shit up every time because it was short too, 185 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:50.040 so the turnover is just constant. So there's one closing 186 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:53.199 out every fucking fifteen minutes, it seems, and they're all 187 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:54.360 just nightmares to clean? 188 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.399 Is that because children? 189 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:56.680 Like? 190 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:58.560 Is children the common denominator? Though? 191 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:02.360 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because it's always been bad. Yeah, my 192 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:06.360 worst one was My worst one was a Harry Potter 193 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:08.560 and the Deathly Hallows Part one. I was still in 194 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.199 the working in a theater when that came or was 195 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:11.560 it half blood print? It was one of the Harry 196 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.199 Potters and it was like people are standing at the 197 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:17.959 top of the theater stairs just like dumping popcorn from the top, 198 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.360 like a waterfall of popcorn. I couldn't I could not 199 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.319 fathom how they made it that messy. And I don't 200 00:08:23.319 --> 00:08:24.560 think that was a children thing. I think it was 201 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:26.759 just one of the most popular movies ever had like 202 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:30.040 drawn in huge audiences. What is going on really quick? 203 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:33.200 I'm sorry, this is not good for audio listeners. Yeah, 204 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:34.159 why does that keep moving? 205 00:08:34.440 --> 00:08:39.000 Oh? It's my fans on? I thought maybe boss, no, no, no. 206 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.399 Maybe, yeah, anyway, sorry, continue to. 207 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.000 Speaking of exciting I wish in movie theater experiences. I 208 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:47.519 really wish The New War of the World would have 209 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:49.679 had a theatrical release because people would behooting and hollering 210 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:52.840 and screaming and gasping throughout. It's just a thrill a minute. 211 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.519 I didn't even know there was one, Like, there's a 212 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:56.480 reason Mary, did you know? 213 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:00.159 Is there a reason? No one knows about it is. 214 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.600 A new War of the worlds. No, it is an 215 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:07.600 Amazon Prime movie starring ice Cube, and I. 216 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:09.600 Do know what you're talking about. I didn't know that's what. 217 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.559 That was bad in a way I have never seen 218 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:16.120 a movie be bad. It was made by Amazon during 219 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.480 the pandemic. So I watched it last night on stream 220 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:22.879 and it's it led to Mike Naughty calling me at 221 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.000 two in the morning to rant about it. It is 222 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.440 completely insane. It is an hour and a half of 223 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.200 ice Cube reacting the things on a zoom call. 224 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:32.639 That's it. 225 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.720 He's just in a room on a zoom call the 226 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:36.559 entire time because it was made during the pandemic and 227 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:38.679 never came out and they've just sat on it. So 228 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:40.600 it is the most like, remember there were like horror 229 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.200 movies and stuff that came out during the pandemics that 230 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:43.639 we're gonna play on the fact that it's all lockdown 231 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:44.000 and stuff. 232 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:44.720 Imagine that. 233 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:46.840 But it comes out, you know, many years after it's 234 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.840 relevant like that format and it is all like Amazon 235 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.480 product placement. It is nothing but product placement. So it's 236 00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:54.720 like ice Cube being like. 237 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.840 I need a thumb drive to hack into the Internet. 238 00:09:57.879 --> 00:09:59.039 Mainframe and then. 239 00:09:58.919 --> 00:10:01.360 He's on a zoom call with is like daughter's boyfriend 240 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.600 or whatever, or I think it's a son. He's like, 241 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:07.120 oh no, it's Amazon Prime, Amazon Prime Ara, It's the 242 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.960 future of delivery, and it shows the Amazon screen and 243 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:12.159 like add to currents and use this address. And then 244 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.480 a drone like a first person drone sequence of like 245 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.679 Amazon drone having to go into the CIA headquarters or 246 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:20.679 whatever to deliver a thumb drive to ice Cube so 247 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.879 we can hack the internet. It is the most like 248 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.080 you know in movies where it's like they say things 249 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:27.279 about computers or hacking, and it's just the most like 250 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.200 It's like, that's not how computers work or the Internet. 251 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:31.159 That's all this movie is. 252 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.120 It's just ice Cube right clicking on Google Maps and 253 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:37.399 being like hack camera and it hacks the camera or 254 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:40.440 hack you know this drone watched Stuncks too, you do. 255 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.120 Everyone in the chat we just kept bringing up Watchdog 256 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:43.960 stuff last night. 257 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:47.679 It is. It is unbelievably bad and it's I think 258 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:49.600 I've watched a lot of bad movies like Love on 259 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:51.240 Alisha Nubes and all these shitty movies. 260 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:53.720 I love shit like that. This is a different type 261 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.240 of bad. This is just the most soulless, like corporate 262 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:58.440 like AI made this. It seems like, you know, like 263 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:00.200 it's unbelievably fucking bad. 264 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:00.840 Yeah. 265 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:03.440 Yeah, at least like the room was made with some 266 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:05.039 sort of heart, right. 267 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:06.440 And that's the thing is like like stuff like you 268 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:07.919 haven't seen Love on a Leash. But it's like it 269 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:09.879 was made by this elderly woman about a dog that 270 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.720 turns into a man and is looking for love and 271 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:14.919 stuff like that, and it's like unbelievably bad as a film, 272 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.879 but it's like, all right, this is an interesting thing 273 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:20.799 that happened. There was an earnestness to it where it's 274 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.799 like this is just the coldest just like Amazon made 275 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:28.519 a movie to advertise Amazon and Microsoft teams and Spotify 276 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:31.639 and Facebook. Like there was a sub plot early on 277 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.480 where it's like, oh, the girl is mad because her 278 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:38.279 dad won't accept her boyfriend's Facebook friend request. In twenty 279 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:40.360 twenty five, it was like a twenty something year old 280 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:43.399 like doctor, it's like, you do excit boyfriend's friend request? Yeah, 281 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:46.360 it's it's it's just unbelievably terrible. 282 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:47.759 That sounds awful. 283 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.639 I did see people talk about it online, so I 284 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.159 didn't know that was World of Worlds. I just know 285 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:56.159 everybody's making fun of ice Cube because he keeps doing 286 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.320 this thing where he like makes giant leaps of faith 287 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:01.039 because apparently he's like this genius and so he'll be like, oh, 288 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:02.559 of course we need to add these things in this, 289 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.799 and we'll need a drone. And it does this like 290 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:09.879 very bad hacking visual that he's not in where it 291 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:12.879 shows the computer screen and he says like ad drone, 292 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:17.679 and then in the camera screen a drone shows up 293 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:19.159 because he said ad drone. 294 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:22.240 It's almost like he was playing it's just Superchu the 295 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:23.000 enhanced thing. 296 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:25.559 Yeah, like a lot of it for ninety straight minutes. 297 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:26.799 It doesn't make sense. 298 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.679 It just seems really poorly. Uh Like the special effects 299 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:32.360 are really bad as well. And I think they thought 300 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:33.960 maybe they could get away with it because it's all 301 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:37.039 done screen in screen, so if he's watching a webcam 302 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:40.519 it can look really bad. But then they do show stuff. 303 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:43.960 See there's some of the aliens like blowing stuff up 304 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:44.519 and everything. 305 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:45.799 It's it's bad. 306 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:46.840 I don't know if it's trying. 307 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.919 To do like a Cloverfield type thing where it's like, oh, 308 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:50.879 man on the street, like you know from the perspective 309 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:52.639 of the people, you know, shooting it from just you know, 310 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:55.120 consumer cameras. But what if it was modern day and 311 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.559 it zoom calls and stuff and it super doesn't work. 312 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.080 Has Cloverfield held up? 313 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:01.600 You know? I only saw it once in the theaters. 314 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.320 I remember like I liked the marketing of Cloverfield more 315 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:07.000 than I liked the actual movie. I think I thought 316 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.000 it was clever marketing, which they didn't really show much 317 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.000 at all. I remember thinking the movie was all right, 318 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.639 but I really think like the gold standard for that 319 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:15.600 type of thing with like the marketing and the movie 320 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:17.519 is Blair Witch. Yeah, because again I was working with 321 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:18.759 the theater when that came out, and like half the 322 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.639 people thought that was real, like the marketing that it 323 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.440 was the early days of the internet and people were like, 324 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.039 oh yeah, I heard they found this tape. And then 325 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.159 you're watching like I can't imagine how scary that would 326 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.000 be if you thought it was real, you know, and 327 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:30.200 even like knowing that it's a work, like you know, 328 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:32.960 I watched it a couple of years ago. It's fucking good. 329 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:34.960 It's again, it holds up very very well. 330 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.440 Yeah, that feeling of despair when they like lose the 331 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.159 map and then that just flat out. 332 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.480 The loss and the tooth stuff and all that, and 333 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:42.840 then ten is so weird. 334 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:44.639 Yeah, when you're in the tent and there's all the 335 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:45.399 hands just hitting it. 336 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:50.000 Yeah, it was Yeah, I think I remember when that happened. 337 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.600 And it's such an interesting reflection of like an era 338 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.639 where the Internet was just getting started, and because the 339 00:13:57.639 --> 00:14:00.840 Internet was still pretty new, it was still fitly believable 340 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:03.279 that if there was a website dedicated to the the 341 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:07.519 Blair Witch being actual video files that they stole from 342 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:11.720 police and they're actually you know, they shouldn't have been. 343 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.960 Released, but they know where these kids went, and the 344 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:15.200 hired unknown. 345 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:19.279 They weren't like actors, which it's cute, and you couldn't 346 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:19.679 do it again. 347 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:20.919 You couldn't do it again. 348 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.440 It was a moment in time, but I remember vividly 349 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:27.320 my stepsister thought that it was real. So the scary 350 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:29.960 part for her was that she believed the website that 351 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.919 she went to that said we uncovered these police files, 352 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:38.039 and it was just a time where it was like, yeah, 353 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.200 maybe maybe they did uncover these police files and get 354 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.279 the movie rights to them, and now they're releasing these 355 00:14:43.320 --> 00:14:49.159 dead kids footage for all of us enjoy. It's a 356 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.279 snuff film. I think that it was just a moment 357 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:54.559 that you could never do again. But I think it 358 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:59.000 was incredible win for marketing to be able to do 359 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.159 that found footage. But yeah, I've never really seen anybody 360 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:04.960 do it like that ever. That actually didn't make me sick, 361 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:06.639 and it kind of did make me sick a little bit, 362 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:07.759 just in. 363 00:15:07.679 --> 00:15:09.399 Terms of just the movement to the camera and stuff. 364 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:14.159 I don't always look up people's noses and iconic shots. 365 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:16.639 It is an iconic shot. It's just a lot. 366 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:18.960 But yeah, I get it. 367 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:24.600 What is the modern equivalent of that, not like found footage, 368 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.480 but like something that was made where the marketing tied 369 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:29.639 into the movie and it was could only have been 370 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:32.039 made and it's time and place. Is there a modern 371 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.559 like one that kind of blew people's minds like that 372 00:15:35.720 --> 00:15:36.960 semi recently. 373 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:38.799 Like a movie movie? Yeah. 374 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:40.759 Probably, Maybe there's a TV show. 375 00:15:42.279 --> 00:15:44.759 Like where you're trying to work the audience, like frog 376 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:47.759 Fractions or something like that. The game, something that's just 377 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.840 really subverts expectations in that way. I mean, it's like, 378 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:51.919 what do you want to call it? 379 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:55.279 A augmented reality kind of like the wider world. It 380 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.879 plays into it an obvious one where they. 381 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:59.600 Used to try weird stuff like that a lot back 382 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:01.200 in like more of that Blair Witch like or like 383 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:02.960 early two thousand stuff. Do you remember there was an 384 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:05.320 EA game fuck, I always forget the name of it, 385 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.600 where it was like you would give your like phene numbers. Yeah, 386 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.000 it was nobody was like crazy ambitious where you give 387 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:13.200 like your phone number and your fax number and your 388 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:16.559 email and the game would like send you factxes in 389 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:18.919 the emails. It was like the Michael Deckliss movie the game, 390 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:20.600 except for they're not trying to. 391 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:25.320 Kill you and stuff. Fuck EA game phone facts. I 392 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.639 hate looking up stuff on a podcast, but uh, you're 393 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.600 you guys. The Majestic Majestic one of the first alternate 394 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:32.919 reality games. Yes July twenty four, two thousand and one. 395 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.519 That's right, yes, Shadow Government conspiracy theory. It was played 396 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:40.519 by phone email, AOL instant messenger, BlackBerry messages facts, and 397 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.360 by visiting special websites. So yeah, it would be just 398 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:46.639 like it was an EA game. Yeah, that Majestic July 399 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:49.159 oh one, look it up. It's like I remember, like 400 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.600 it sounded really fascinating. I don't think it really played 401 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:54.440 like it was a huge failure, I think, but I 402 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:56.320 thought it was so interesting sounding. 403 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:57.120 I think I have. 404 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.000 I don't think it's as strong, but I will say 405 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.960 say that the very first time I ever encountered a 406 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.279 game that threatened to delete my save data, I talked 407 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.640 about and people would gossip about it. Hell Blade is 408 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:13.640 a good example of that, where we all talked about 409 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:15.200 it mattered. 410 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.599 That doesn't matter though, I think, But we're not talking 411 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.279 about whether or not hell Blade is good. I'm saying 412 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:21.519 was it effective? 413 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:23.799 Was effective? 414 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:27.839 Shut the fuck up? Was it effective marketing for it 415 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:29.720 to do that and get us all to be like, 416 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.160 it'll delete your save and which we did, and everybody 417 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:33.759 fucking talked. 418 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.079 About it because because Kojimas never lied about the protagonist 419 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:37.640 of a game, so he. 420 00:17:37.640 --> 00:17:42.119 Did in cool ways. He didn't fund subversive ways. I know, 421 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:46.559 the Helplke thing is sure, great fun, but then after 422 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:48.279 it comes out, people are like, oh, it's actually bullshit, 423 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:50.519 and everyone's like it's bullshit. So like I would argue 424 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:53.720 that it was not effective, you know, like because everyone 425 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:54.400 knew right away. 426 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.799 I well, I was, Yeah, I guess it wasn't as 427 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.680 like long form as Metal Gear Solid two. But for 428 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.720 people playing it for review it definitely we don't need 429 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:07.279 to talk about this again. I think it added to 430 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.039 the tension for me, but I didn't hear from other 431 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:12.839 people that it was bullshit, so it worked. Also, developers 432 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:15.039 are always lying to us in like every single game. 433 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.119 That's the whole. That's how you when you make games, 434 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.720 you're lying to the player, like coyote time, when like 435 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.279 the developers are like, that's the phrase for like how 436 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:25.400 much space in a platform? Or do you leave from 437 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:31.599 the edge to jumper or Doom Doom twenty sixteen when 438 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.000 you're back as to demons, they do not shoot nearly 439 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:35.680 as much or move as quickly. 440 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.880 Oh before shifting the difficulty on the fly, telling the 441 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:39.799 players stuff like that. 442 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:40.599 So brilliant. 443 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:41.200 I love that. 444 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:41.960 Yeah, that's really good. 445 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.319 Well you can't notice. I think that's great. Yeah. Importantly, 446 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:46.759 though you chote. 447 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:50.559 Time uncharted, your health actually amplifies by ten when you're 448 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:52.480 in the red on the screen, because they want you 449 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:54.759 to feel like you're barely surviving, but you're actually more. 450 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:56.480 Yeah, I got it. 451 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:58.640 You mentioned coyote time. That reminds me of this came 452 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:02.440 up this week. There's a divide here when I've asked people, 453 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:06.359 are you team Wiley Coyote or team Roadrunner? 454 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:10.279 So Roadrunner is the one that's always fucking with him 455 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:12.960 and escaping, right, Yeah, So it's like Tom and Jerry 456 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:16.000 kind of sure and co is. 457 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.000 Always buying the Acme products trying to you know, it 458 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.519 would be he's painting stuff on tunnels to look like roads. 459 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:21.720 He's buying the Acme bird. 460 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:25.799 Since because who are you? If Wiley Coyote won, then 461 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:26.640 they would be over. 462 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.920 He's eating the Roadrunner he would eat. He's always putting 463 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:32.039 on bibbs and holding up the fork and knights. 464 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:33.559 Who kill him. 465 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:37.880 I think I'm team road I'm assuming you're. 466 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:42.200 Okay, we all know what heel Dan is she should be. 467 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:44.880 I don't think it's a heel. I think road Runner 468 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.359 is an asshole. And we we pulled the audience tough 469 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.079 your podcast, and most people it was like fifty seven 470 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:50.480 forty three Wiley. 471 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:55.599 Coyote and I am a Wiley guy. Uh. I always 472 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:56.920 rooted for Wiley Coyote. 473 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:00.519 Being contrarian doesn't mean you've changed your mind. That's a 474 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.319 flip flopper. Where're saying you're just picking the one that's 475 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:05.160 obviously eating the other one. 476 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:08.400 Now a kid and I were thinking No, as a kid, 477 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.079 I was like, I want fucking white like cooty to 478 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:12.000 catch him. And I remember there's Itchy and Scratchy where 479 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:14.200 they're supposed to be the one where Itchy finally got Scratchy, 480 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:16.720 And I totally empathized with, you know, Barton and Lisa 481 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:18.720 being like, oh my god, that's finally gonna happen, because 482 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:20.680 I wanted that to happen. I wanted the white coyote 483 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:21.480 to eat the road runner. 484 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.119 Yeah, but if either of you but because he's. 485 00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:26.759 Trying so hard on the road runners, just rub it 486 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:27.279 in his face. 487 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.960 But the roadrunner has every right to if either of 488 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:33.640 you guys tried to eat me, I would absolutely embarrass 489 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.559 you publicly and rub it in your face. And if 490 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:39.200 everyone was like, man, Mary's kind of being a bitch 491 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:41.440 about this, that's you. 492 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:41.519 No. 493 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.119 I see Wiley Code's in the desert. We don't even 494 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:46.319 know if he has a home. He is trying to survive. 495 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:47.920 He's in the animal kingdom. 496 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:49.480 Desert. 497 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:51.920 Have you ever seen a nature documentary. He's doing what 498 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.400 a lion would do, or he's trying to eat and 499 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:57.599 the road runner to see anywhere, and he decides to go, Oh, 500 00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:59.480 I'm gonna go right on this road, and I'm gonna 501 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.279 fuck with this coote. That's just a hungry animal. He 502 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.039 is fucking with a hungry animal. 503 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:06.880 I'm confused. Have you seen a coyote use a plunger 504 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:10.759 to detonate dynamite in the Nature documentary before you were 505 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:11.400 the Good Ones? 506 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:14.039 Yeah? 507 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:16.000 Yeah, when they were fucking professionals about it. 508 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:17.759 Yeah, yeah, they know what they're doing. Yeah. 509 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:20.799 No one can ever forget that famous David at David 510 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:25.599 Attenborough scene when Wiley coyote hung in the air for 511 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:29.480 about five to seven seconds. Now, he won't actually fall 512 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:31.599 until he looks down. 513 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:34.039 I heard from the hole he has already applied bandages 514 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:34.799 to his forehead. 515 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:37.319 It's a are you sorry? 516 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:41.400 You signed that said? Yikes? So are you? 517 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:43.359 Team? 518 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:46.880 I love Wiley Coyote. Tom is the cat. 519 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:49.319 I watched Tom and Jerry know that this came because, 520 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:51.160 like Tom and Jerry was a cat and mouse situation. 521 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:52.279 That's just a nature thinks. 522 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:55.240 It wasn't situation. It was just a cat. Yeah, it 523 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:55.599 was a cat. 524 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.680 So Vester in Tweety is different because Tweety was a 525 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.079 pet and the cat's just trying to get into a 526 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:03.039 cage and eat a pet, so like Sylvester, clearly the heel. 527 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:05.839 I can't get behind Sylvester. There there's no justifying his actions. 528 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:08.599 Wow, Looney Tunes really recycle the things, didn't they? 529 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:09.720 Yeah, but it was awesome. 530 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.200 Okay, elm're budd hunting bugs, bunny, you know, like, yeah, 531 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:15.240 there's a lot of hunting. 532 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.440 There's the Detroiters. Have you seen that Detroiter sketch that 533 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.680 I don't know pops up bunny at my Instagram feed 534 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.720 where Tim Robinson goes up to these people at like 535 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:27.000 a business dinner and they're like, oh my god, are 536 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.680 you like Tom Breidwood's son. He's like yeah, it's my dad. 537 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:32.799 And they're like, man, we uh the stock market was 538 00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:34.440 exploding when he was still working. 539 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:35.039 And he's like yeah. 540 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:37.119 They're like, how's he doing. He's like, ah, he's a vegetable. 541 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.200 He really doesn't understand anything anymore. And then they get 542 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.279 quiet and they're like and then this woman's like, well, 543 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:43.200 you tell him I said hi, And he's like talking 544 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:44.799 to him like is like talking to bugs, bunny. It 545 00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:46.279 won't make sense. She's like, well, then you tell him 546 00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:47.000 I said, what's up? 547 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:47.279 Doc? 548 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:50.519 I think it was Detroiter's. 549 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:51.599 It might have been. I don't know what else. I 550 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:53.759 feel like you could talk to bugs bunny he talked. 551 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:55.039 He just says what's up? 552 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:55.240 Doc? 553 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:56.039 Doesn't he No? 554 00:22:56.200 --> 00:22:58.640 He says words and stuffy and he's like, I think 555 00:22:58.960 --> 00:22:59.920 like you know that stuff. 556 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.440 Oh yeah, he just has like slang stuff. Got same thing. 557 00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.400 Alma Fudd is just hunting a rabbit the whole time? 558 00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:07.319 Is that all Looney Tunes? 559 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:09.160 You is hunting? 560 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:11.880 He was a pervert? 561 00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:13.680 Is he not hunting? 562 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:19.839 Yeah? I guess in a way. What was Speedy Gonzalez's thing? 563 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:25.160 He was fast? I'm gonna google what was Speedy Gonzalez's deal. 564 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.119 Speedy Gonzales could not have aged well but not it's 565 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.880 a little I don't know what was there like a 566 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.079 counterpart in that show. Did he have a villain or 567 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:34.759 was he the villain? 568 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:36.240 He was just fast? 569 00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:38.240 That was What about the other guy with guns? 570 00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:39.119 The Texans? 571 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.440 Sam? He was great? I love you Sam. 572 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:46.279 Didn't he try and kill Speedy Gonzales? Weren't they Nemesis 573 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:47.160 the same day? 574 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:47.799 Oh? 575 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.480 Interesting? What about Uh? 576 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:51.599 What about Marvin Marshaan? 577 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:52.559 Uh? 578 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:55.279 He was just trying to the big red monster guy, 579 00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:59.880 remember the big the red He's like like a refrigerator 580 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:01.599 of red, fuzzy refrigerator. 581 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:04.319 Is I actually remember only that because of the game, 582 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:10.839 the Looney Tunes game. It's impossible to beat that sequence 583 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:14.559 in space with this fuzzy red foot and it was 584 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:15.559 so difficult. 585 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:17.079 I think we ended up quitting that game. 586 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:17.240 Is. 587 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.240 I wonder whatever happened to that game ship. 588 00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:22.680 Wow, I am remembering that now. I just got like 589 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:24.799 a vision of it. I forgot about it. I have 590 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.920 to Marvin Marshan game on my I had the Marvin 591 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.319 Martian game on my game gear on. 592 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.119 Yeah, this was an old game. 593 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.279 It must have either been on because I had a 594 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:42.160 Sega growing up, so it was either like Sega game 595 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:43.640 gear could absolutely be it. 596 00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.680 I'm game because the game gear was just all Genesis games, 597 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:47.079 wasn't it. 598 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:49.440 I mean, it's just been so long since I played this. 599 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:51.039 There's a lot of them. 600 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.839 Speedy has the reputation of being a hit with the 601 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:54.680 female mice. 602 00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:59.079 Yeah, wow, situation. 603 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:00.519 Because he in and out. 604 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:05.079 Oh my god, two pump chump, My god. 605 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:09.720 That cartoon you're talking about there's for children. Uh, Looney Tunes. 606 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.839 I used to wake up like Abby, I'm gonna shoot. 607 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:20.119 Gross yeah, kind of kind of hot. 608 00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.880 Like a little like Corkscrew pigtail penis right, Oh yeah, 609 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.680 for sure. That was the implication of the Yeah, yeah, yeah, 610 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:28.000 we all know what's going on there. 611 00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:32.920 Yeah, Marsh have a trident penis. 612 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:33.720 Yeah. 613 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:34.599 Lenny Tunes is great. 614 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:36.480 Yeah, a lot like That's the thing. 615 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:37.680 I think they were, like you know how they're like 616 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:40.440 Nickelodeon Kids and like Disney Channel Kids and stuff. I 617 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.440 never had Disney Channel, so it's like, as a kid, 618 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:43.920 Nickelodeon was my whole deal. 619 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:46.000 Like I loved all those shows. 620 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.720 I was a Nickelodeon. I knew it was Nickelodeon or 621 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:49.759 Cartoon Network. 622 00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:53.359 See, Cartoon Network was after my time, you know, by 623 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.799 the time that was around. Well, actually, I think there 624 00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:56.960 was a while when I was a kid and I 625 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.519 was like, oh, I wish I could watch this, and 626 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:00.559 I didn't have it. And then like when Base Ghost 627 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.400 and all that stuff, I would, you know, see commercials 628 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.480 and this seems like my type of thing, and I 629 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.039 just never had access to it. So never all that 630 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:09.200 adult swim stuff, all the Cartoon Network stuff. I just 631 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:10.039 I don't have that. 632 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.319 Yeah, Cartoon Network struck me as more for people who 633 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:15.799 had slightly aged out of Nickelodeon. It was not as 634 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.000 feel good. It was slightly weirder humor, fairly extras laboratory 635 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.240 drum type stuff. 636 00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:22.960 Yeah, I missed all that. 637 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.440 Yeah stuff I didn't have. Uh, I didn't have cable 638 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.680 growing up, but my dad did. So whenever I visited 639 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:31.359 my dad, I was able to like partake and cable 640 00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.200 the life of what cable was for like two to 641 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.400 three weeks a year, and that was very special time 642 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:39.960 for me to like understand what Johnny Bravo was. 643 00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:43.559 Sure Kelodeon was channel thirty four for me, same number 644 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:44.400 as Shaquille O'Neil. 645 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:45.359 Oh. 646 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.400 Wow, what a nice little memory. 647 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.440 Growing up, I had never seen Invader Zim. But not 648 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.160 to generalize, but I do remember in college in the dorms, 649 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.519 the most insufferable people in the dorms were the ones 650 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.319 that were the most into Invaders in Yeah, one of 651 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.000 the most annoying people I've ever met. 652 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.400 I do think it had element. Yeah, I think it 653 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.920 had like a Rick and Morty like, oh, it's actually 654 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.000 more adult than you think. It is kind of vibe right. 655 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.920 Well, it was evil and so like Invader Zim was 656 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.400 like genuinely trying to kill people, and it had like 657 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.720 a real dark premises to it of like, you know, 658 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.920 are you on the side of this murderous villain that 659 00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.720 keeps making mistakes? And so like I got really I 660 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:28.319 definitely was the person who had the Invader No, not 661 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:32.359 Invader Zim. He had a dog called Girl and it 662 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.200 was like a little alien that had a zipper. And 663 00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:38.599 I had ger t shirts, I had a girl backpack, 664 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.279 I had ger stuff Like I was that little freak 665 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.759 and I think I was annoying, So like your theory 666 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:44.480 is accurate. 667 00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:49.759 Yeah, I was rocket Power Hey Arnold, Hey, Arnold still 668 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:50.599 is one of my favorites. 669 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.960 Hey kids, and we all, what did you. 670 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.359 Say, Rather than rocket Power like a Pokemon thing, Team 671 00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:58.920 Rocket was the lay. 672 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:02.119 Rocket Power was the like California skater Skater. 673 00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.440 Kids, which was also cool. And I still do Wiggedy 674 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:05.680 Wiggedy all. 675 00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.680 The Twister Reggie. 676 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.599 Sometimes the it's not a crazy age difference between the 677 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:13.319 three of us, but sometimes even a couple. 678 00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.680 Of years, you realize where the like, you know, it's. 679 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.240 Like with like me and Vinnie, you know, it's like, 680 00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.200 oh he was in that kind of like he man Transformers, 681 00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.720 g I, Joe Era, and I'm just like a couple 682 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.039 of years younger. So it's like I was into Turtles, Ghostbusters, 683 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:28.640 and then you go a couple of years past me, 684 00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.000 and it's like the Cartoon Network stuff, the things you're 685 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:31.640 talking about, you. 686 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:36.759 Know, Yeah, for sure like that that stuff moved quick. 687 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.160 If you didn't get on the ground floor with Cartoon Network, 688 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.839 then yeah, you were left behind. 689 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:41.079 Yeah. 690 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:48.319 But like the original anti hero it was and Coyote. 691 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:52.079 I just don't think that he's staring. Yeah, I think 692 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:54.759 it's hard. And also I don't think it's that serious. 693 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.240 I don't think like as children, we were ever supposed 694 00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.519 to ask ourselves what side we were on. The point 695 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.039 was well liked the fact that they always did the 696 00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.880 same thing, which is Wiley Coyote tried to kill Roadrunner 697 00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:08.519 and then embarrassed himself and got squished. Like that's hold up. 698 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.680 The joke, Okay, hold on a second dance. So if 699 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.680 I were to ask you, do you sympathize with Kevin 700 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.960 or Harry and Marv and Home alone? 701 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:18.519 Oh? No, I wanted Kevin because, like I was like 702 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:19.519 that age. 703 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.759 Just the same dynamic. He's being an asshole and like 704 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.519 booby trapping and kicking, like basically would kill them in 705 00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.119 real life. I mean, yeah, they're invading his house, but they're. 706 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.000 Kevin the Wiley Coyote. 707 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.759 In this situation, he's the road runner because he's setting 708 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.519 up all these traps and like, like. 709 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.960 While Coyote was setting up traps, acme seed, you're setting 710 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.720 up the tunnels that you know, we're the side of 711 00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:39.160 a mountain. 712 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.240 Oh yeah, I guess home alone would be but right, 713 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:45.799 but then this case, Wiley Coyote succeeds. 714 00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:47.359 Well that be great. 715 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:48.880 I did. 716 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.119 Okay, that's why you're at Kevin because. 717 00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:55.880 They're killing the Wiley Coyote is trying to kill road Runner. 718 00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.599 And these guys are trying to kill Kevin like they're 719 00:29:58.599 --> 00:29:59.599 trying to kid him. 720 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.880 No, Wiley's on defense. Kevin's on defense. 721 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.480 You know Wiley is not on defense survive. 722 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.759 No, he's not. I think he's the one setting up 723 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.000 all the tracks. 724 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:11.880 You think he's doing it out of malice, No, it's 725 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:13.200 hunger and survival. 726 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.559 So, but Marv is also starving and he needs all 727 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:17.799 of them. 728 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.839 You can get a fucking job and quit robbing. 729 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:21.319 People, does Wiley Coyote? 730 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.440 And so do you he's a coyote, Marv's a man. 731 00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.799 I think once someone starts hunting you with the intention 732 00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.960 of killing you, you can react. 733 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:30.559 However you want. 734 00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.480 Elmer Fudd was hunting bugs, Bunny Wiley coyote was just 735 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.799 existing and roadrunner was coming into his world and fucking 736 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:38.039 with them. 737 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:39.200 Wiley was not hunting. 738 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:40.119 Where are you getting that? 739 00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:40.440 Like? 740 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:41.079 Is that definite? 741 00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:42.279 Is that it was always and. 742 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.359 Cliffs and desert and stuff like that. It was basically 743 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:46.960 his home. White is in his natural environment and roadrunners 744 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:47.799 coming in can't. 745 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.240 It's road runners environment too. Isn't rod Runner? What is 746 00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:51.160 road runner supposed to be? 747 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.960 Now that I think his environment is a road? Isn't 748 00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:54.720 it his environment? 749 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.200 His natural and but he could get around easier. He 750 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.480 should go somewhere else and let the coyote live peacefully. 751 00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.759 He's on road to be and this guy is trying 752 00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:06.400 to blow him up with dynamite. So I would also, 753 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:08.599 if I knew I was smarter than my opponent it 754 00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.160 was hunting me, I would also paint tunnels on walls 755 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.400 so you've run into them. I think it's his prerogative. 756 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:21.079 Yeah, that's evolution, like nature is metal. If you're running 757 00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.799 into walls that have been painted. You aren't mentioned. 758 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.640 This show is awesome. I gotta watch watch some Looney 759 00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.720 Tunes when I'm like a Torrent or something. Yeah, it's 760 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:31.519 got to be somewhere. 761 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.240 I watched the New Alien show a bit of a 762 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:43.880 dramatic shift. But Alien is the new Alien Earth series. 763 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:49.319 I believe it's on Hulu for sure. Uh that is 764 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.759 in the Alien franchise and it is. 765 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.960 Oh yeah, you were on that. Sorry wait but you 766 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.319 stop paying? No. The reason I didn't even tell you 767 00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:00.319 you share? We did? 768 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.559 He told you yes, No, you said you talked to 769 00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:05.119 a man about it and you declined it. 770 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.839 I don't think we're gonna do it this year. You did, 771 00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:11.039 and I gift you on because I'm nice? 772 00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:12.119 No wait wait wait wait? 773 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:13.480 When did I got to look back through that? 774 00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:16.359 Because I don't really no, no, no, well shit, if 775 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.839 I'm wrong, then I got to reap because you paid me. 776 00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:20.880 I don't think you paid me, though, I remember being 777 00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.640 like I told my dad because he's just kind of piggybacking. 778 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:24.440 Okay. 779 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.000 March twenty third, twenty twenty five, do you want to 780 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:30.079 go in on another year of Hulu? Mike sure, Venmo 781 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.559 requests whatever you need. 782 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.400 Receipts. No, Oh, is it somebody on YouTube premium or 783 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:37.759 something that. 784 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:40.559 Sunday March twenty third, at nine to twenty two pm, 785 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.759 you asked me and we were hug I'm pretty sure 786 00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.599 we were using Hulu when I said, sure, Venmo. 787 00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:51.440 My transactions Okay, I don't see the Mike mcharty's here. 788 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.000 I don't see the Mike Mharty's July third. 789 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.359 So March twenty third, I sent Dan Ryker one hundred 790 00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.960 thirteen dollars and ninety four cents. 791 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.200 Oh was that for? So can you send that back? 792 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.400 Wait a minute, one hundred and thirteen ninety four. The 793 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.880 thing you put down is the emoji was a wineglass, 794 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:09.240 So that sounds like we went to a bar. 795 00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:09.799 Wait. 796 00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:11.079 What would we have been doing in March? 797 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:13.880 I don't know, but the wine glass isn't Hulu. 798 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.839 This is why didn't you Venmo request me. I definitely 799 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:17.920 would have paid if you did. 800 00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:19.079 You guys want to fight. 801 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:23.240 Well, let's we're gonna track this down off the air, 802 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:24.799 because if you did pay me for Hulu, I need 803 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:25.759 to sign back up. 804 00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:35.559 Uh, Maris you said thanks for the time. You Sayeah, 805 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.000 you said thanks for the Venmo on March twenty fourth, 806 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.960 and when did we Hulu the March twenty third. That 807 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:42.920 could be a coincidence. 808 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.119 I don't know why I'm signing up for Hulu again. 809 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.480 You don't decign up for Just send me back your buddy. 810 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.039 Oh, I'll send you the money. Okay, Okay, I'm glad. No, 811 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.240 we're keeping this because I want the world to know 812 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:54.720 what it's like. 813 00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.440 That's fine, don't worry about it. 814 00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.640 Yeah, either money or so you. 815 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.880 Guys can watch Alien and talk about. 816 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:05.079 It with me. 817 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.359 I'm very interested in the show, Mary, the. 818 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:12.719 New show on Hulu, the Alien franchise, and it is 819 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:14.639 about both of you. 820 00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:17.880 No, I want to hear, he interrupted. We're curious, he said, 821 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.880 he said, he canceled, and then I had to launch 822 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.800 into it because there's money involved. Mary. I am excited 823 00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:23.320 about the show. 824 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:26.800 I almost started last he does, I want to hear 825 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:28.960 about Alien Earth. I almost started last night, but I 826 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.199 held off. So there's four parts. They're each an hourish, 827 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:32.639 but they only have two live right now, and you 828 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:33.400 have watched both of them. 829 00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:34.039 How is it. 830 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.920 I'm hosting the ship out of this thing, and I'd 831 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:38.760 be remiss. 832 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:39.840 If I didn't point that out. 833 00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:45.000 Are you how's How's How's Alien Earth? 834 00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.639 I like it it is. It has some important context 835 00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.239 that they explain in the very beginning of the show, 836 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.480 which is that there's three competing companies that are trying 837 00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.519 to essentially take over how the future of humanity exists. 838 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.679 One cyborgs, and that's when people like replace body parts 839 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.199 with machines, and so there are people out there who 840 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:10.559 are mostly machine. Now there is AI robots, right, so 841 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.559 there's robots that are like in our world that are 842 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.079 just like supporting us as we need. And then there's 843 00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.639 a new thing called hybrids, and that's when you download 844 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:24.000 a person's consciousness into a robot. So they have memories, Yeah, 845 00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:28.480 they have emotions like people do, but they are in 846 00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:30.960 robotic bodies and they are like less prone to getting 847 00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:35.519 squished or die. And so these three different entities are 848 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.360 in the current world and you can get them confused 849 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:40.400 or mix them up. 850 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.519 There's like a cyborg that's. 851 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.519 In the very opening sequence that is able to like 852 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.079 maneuver around Alien whereas like people are like dying left 853 00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.679 and right. And then the crux of the plot of 854 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.760 this is that there are hybrids and one of the 855 00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.559 hybrids has a brother who is human, and she him, 856 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:02.719 she has memories of him before she was transferred to 857 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.360 her robot body, and he is a first responder and 858 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.199 he's going to be a first responder in the ship 859 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.960 that just crash landed with alien on it. And she's like, 860 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:14.440 I have to go and help him because I am 861 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:18.639 strong now. But she's like eight years old. There's all 862 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.800 these hybrids and they're all children. They're all eight years 863 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:26.559 old kids in the bodies of like strong adults. 864 00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:28.280 Oh weird. 865 00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:29.440 It's very weird. 866 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.280 There's people that look like me going around be like 867 00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:34.320 I want cinnamon toast qunch. 868 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.800 Heyah, they're not They're not like too stupid, but they do. 869 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:42.079 They do children's stuff where like they'll be sitting in 870 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.280 the show like this, like with their head like get 871 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.599 their knees into their chest, or they'll be upside down 872 00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.679 and they'll be like playing with their fingers or getting distracted, 873 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.079 and it's like, yeah, these are fucking kids. These are young. 874 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.320 I don't know if they're like you know how, I 875 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.760 don't know children's ages very well. They might be ten, 876 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.639 but I'm just saying they are. They are children in 877 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.519 adult bodies going into an alien universe with new bugs 878 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:08.599 and new stuff. And that's the other thing I really 879 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:10.840 like about this is like we've seen a lot of 880 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:13.960 what alien can do. We understand the mouth coming out 881 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.719 of the mouth and that it's a hunter and stuff 882 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.559 like that. This new one on the ship, there are 883 00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.599 a bunch of different species that they're trying to protect. 884 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.960 The I don't know, the corporation is trying to protect 885 00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.119 and make sure all these species stay alive. Well, they're 886 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.000 starting to get out, and so in the first episode 887 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.880 you will see the first new species that it's not alien, 888 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.239 that is starting to like kill people. And it's fun 889 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:45.159 because each episode I have found a new thing to 890 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.719 be scared of because we don't know what it is. 891 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:49.440 We don't know how it works, we don't know how 892 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:51.800 it operates, and it is they're also killing people. 893 00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.159 And then there's also alien hunting. 894 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:56.199 So and there's just the four episodes. Like it's a 895 00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:57.280 limited run type thing. 896 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.280 I believe, so I believe it's I like that to 897 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:03.719 build to sell, right, It's like this one entire entity feels. 898 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.559 Like a longer movie or a shorter run of a 899 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:06.440 TV show. I like that. 900 00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:09.920 I'm two in I think it's quite good and so 901 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:11.880 what happened was I was like, you know, I had 902 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:13.880 like my big bowl of popcorn and I had my drink. 903 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.920 I didn't know I had my scal That was before 904 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.880 we started. Mike said that. 905 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.079 We were when you talked about that weird. 906 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.360 I want everyone to know that. You said you were 907 00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:30.559 gonna watch Sinners tonight before we started recording, and then 908 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.280 I was like, great, you should get some popcorn. 909 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:32.880 You're gonna love it. 910 00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.119 And you were like, no, actually, I'm gonna max scallops. 911 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.119 And I was like, that's weird on popcorn, but like, 912 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:37.639 do whatever. 913 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:38.039 The fuck you want. 914 00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.159 It was a funny Marry joke that I didn't realize 915 00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.159 was thinking back. Yeah, I was off. 916 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:45.760 And then you were like, I think I might make 917 00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:47.639 a cocktail, and I was like, scalop cocktail sounds pretty 918 00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.400 gross too, but like live your life. It was double 919 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.119 whammy from Mary. Anyway, the point. 920 00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:53.960 Is is I made that second joke. 921 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:54.960 I don't think so. 922 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:58.199 I think I made both of the jokes. Anyway, we're 923 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.119 watching this. I didn't know it was piecemeal. I didn't 924 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.159 know they were releasing them episodically, and so I'm watching 925 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:05.840 these two episodes. 926 00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:07.440 I was like, this is great, let's keep rolling, like, 927 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:08.800 let's go, and. 928 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.880 It ends with the Episode two ends with like a 929 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:18.519 huge cliffhanger, and episode three starts and I'm like, oh, wild, 930 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.760 Like it's a spaceship with characters I haven't seen yet. 931 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.280 It must be like going backwards in time or forwards 932 00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:24.599 in time. 933 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.039 As someone who wants to watch the show. 934 00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.039 I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to trust me, okay. 935 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.880 And so there's like this spaceship and they're all in 936 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:39.239 hyper sleep to all we know is like very familiar 937 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.519 in the Alien series. And then an asteroid hits the 938 00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:48.559 spaceship and all of these people get like emergency ejected 939 00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:52.000 in their little cocoons in their little room, and this 940 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.079 guy gets like ejected onto a ship and there's aliens 941 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:58.039 on the ship that are not alien, they're like spiders. 942 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.159 And I was like, this is so how can you 943 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:03.440 have a totally new character on a. 944 00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:07.960 Totally different planet fighting totally different aliens? Why is this? 945 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:09.320 Are they gonna meet him later? 946 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:11.280 This is so confusing? 947 00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.039 And I keep watching it because it is. 948 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:14.880 It's not bad. 949 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.599 It's not good, but it's not bad. 950 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:18.360 And I was like, I just don't know if I 951 00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.519 like agree with this total shift in tone and direction 952 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.559 and who the fuck are these new characters? And finally, 953 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.559 like forty five minutes in, I was like, wait a second, 954 00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.800 and I have pause, and it's a movie. It's a 955 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.599 different movie from a different franchise, and I watched forty 956 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.119 five minutes of it, thinking with an episode of Alien. 957 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:41.800 Yeah, yeah, I don't know, that's insane. You're watching Happy 958 00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:42.440 Gilmore too. 959 00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:43.880 You got forty five minutes. 960 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.039 In forty five minutes, But you have to understand he 961 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.360 was in he was in hyper sleep and I. 962 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:52.639 Was, you know, in a ship, and I was like, oh, totally. 963 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.960 Hyper sleep Alien, this is the same thing. 964 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:56.400 But who is this guy? 965 00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:58.880 Who is this guy I've never heard I've never seen 966 00:40:58.960 --> 00:40:59.760 him before. 967 00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.079 That an algotche the algorithm got your rakes. 968 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.880 And I've never like if this was a machine or 969 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.719 if there was a person that was like, I'm gonna 970 00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:12.920 play this movie. After the second episode of Alien, they 971 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:17.719 hook line syncred me into watching most of a movie 972 00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.599 that has nothing to do with an Alien franchise, because 973 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.000 I thought I thought that I was watching episode three 974 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:26.599 and just they just had sometimes shows do that where 975 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.639 they're just like, this is an offshoot, but it'll come, 976 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:29.679 it'll come into play. 977 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.400 I promise you, it'll sink up later. 978 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:33.679 I feel like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul would 979 00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.039 do that where it's like an episode surgeon, like, wait, 980 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:35.440 what's going on? 981 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.280 Where are what time? Is this worth these characters? Yeah? 982 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.679 Yeah, no, I could see that happening. Maybe not forty 983 00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:43.079 five minutes of it, but I could see it happening. Oh. 984 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.199 I was so And the whole time I was like 985 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.239 eating popcorn and drinking my drink and I was like, 986 00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:52.320 you've kind of love kind that one's you and I 987 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.880 was kind of like, I was like, you're losing me. 988 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:59.920 But like there are interesting aliens. They're like spiders, but 989 00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.400 like I have to look it up. 990 00:42:01.719 --> 00:42:04.159 You gotta hit continue watching. 991 00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:04.840 I will tell you. 992 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:07.880 Yeah, I bet you. 993 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.519 I can look it up if we google it. So 994 00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.000 it's I'm just gonna I'm gonna say what the plot is, 995 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:19.400 which is a guy gets ejected from spaceship uh and 996 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:26.000 when he lands, it's a planet with aliens and and 997 00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:29.360 there's a lady on his calms that are like, hey, 998 00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:30.079 can you help me? 999 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:31.480 I need you to come get me. 1000 00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:37.559 Yeah, and it's really it's really far away, and he's 1001 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.079 like I don't have a lot of oxygen. 1002 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.599 And she convinces him, and she talks with him through 1003 00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:42.559 the audio the whole time. 1004 00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:50.280 You get you get on an escape pod and you 1005 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.480 go to a planetary object covered with. 1006 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:59.400 The plasma grenades. World was like an oval thing. The 1007 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:04.039 controller was initially really big. I didn't know why Hulu 1008 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.599 told me to plug in my controller, but and turn 1009 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.320 on my Xbox Original. 1010 00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:11.320 Okay, it's called long distance. 1011 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.960 Huh Google Google. 1012 00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.239 Figured it out from me saying I'm just gonna say 1013 00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:21.400 my Google terms were Hulu guy ejected, space ship, planet, aliens, 1014 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:22.960 women colms talking to him. 1015 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:25.679 Okay, yeah, twenty twenty four, so would have like looked 1016 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.360 modern like the show. And yeah, okay, fifty tomatoes. How 1017 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:34.960 Anthony Ramos is from a Nope? And oh that guy 1018 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.239 he was in Hanilet. 1019 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:41.760 Christopher Yevshu is in a his name's Dwayne in this, 1020 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:44.679 but he was in a Game of Thrones. He was 1021 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.719 the rough and tumble dude from the North. 1022 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:47.480 Oh. 1023 00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:51.719 Sure, long distance is like fine. I found it a 1024 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.320 bit exhausting because there's a person on comm's talking the 1025 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:59.159 whole fucking movie being like tell me more about your life, 1026 00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:00.920 like while you come in rescue me, and it's just 1027 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.639 like I don't give a fuck about this woman that 1028 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.440 I've never heard of, but there is like alien stalking 1029 00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.800 him the whole time, and that's really exciting. So like 1030 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:09.679 I'm on the fence about it. But as soon as 1031 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:11.559 I found out it wasn't alien, I turned it off 1032 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:12.039 and went. 1033 00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.880 To bed because the long distance. 1034 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.880 I was offended. I was, I was upset. I was 1035 00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.360 I was disappointed in myself. I was disappointed in the algorithm. 1036 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.159 I was actually impressed by the algorithm, and I was 1037 00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.480 disappointed that I like got tricked into watching this fell. 1038 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.840 Well, I feel like Mike will not be disappointed than me, 1039 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:33.199 because Mike. I just went to my Hulu account and 1040 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.079 it says it never actually canceled because it was a 1041 00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:37.800 couple of days ago and I'd already paid for the month. 1042 00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.280 So I canceled my cancelation. 1043 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.000 And not only that, I bought a full calendar year, 1044 00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.559 full twelve months of Hulu and Mike those last few months. 1045 00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:49.480 That's a bonus. You got those for free. You got 1046 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:51.239 another another year, no problem, buddy. 1047 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.239 Wait, so did I pay for the coming year? No? 1048 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.280 But did you already paid me? You already paid me 1049 00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.480 in March. You're good, okay, yeah, thanks. I feel like 1050 00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:03.000 you're acting like it's a reward. I just feel like 1051 00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.000 myself on the back A great job here. Yeah, okay hero, 1052 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.480 Uh huh. That's a lot of people are saying. 1053 00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.599 Thank you for providing the product I paid for. 1054 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.119 Yeah, my dad's going to be thrilled. 1055 00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:14.440 He was really sad because he doesn't get to do 1056 00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:17.440 his little Family Guy Pelvic Thrust nighttime routine. 1057 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.800 I'm sorry what I've told you this right, not Family 1058 00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:23.840 Guy Pelvic Thrust. I think I remember, Oh, the Hulu. 1059 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:25.559 You know my dad's on there. You always fuck with 1060 00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:29.760 them a shit really quick though. I will say the 1061 00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.840 thing was Blake Hester, who I saw weapons with. Oh. 1062 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.880 I mentioned that, like I sometimes change your dad's profile 1063 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:37.159 name to fuck with him, and he's like, do you 1064 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:39.039 ever go into his profile see what he watches? Like now, 1065 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.239 He's like, it's probably like Family Guy and stuff. 1066 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.119 So it's own. It's one that's the only thing he 1067 00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.320 watches on Hulu is fair okay. 1068 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:50.159 When he goes to bed every single night, three hundred 1069 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:51.920 and sixty five days a year, he puts Family Guy 1070 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.239 on and it's in the TV in's bedroom. And he 1071 00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.920 lays in bed on his back and you know the 1072 00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.280 song he goes he's a. 1073 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.840 Family Guy bomb. 1074 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.360 And so during that last little flourish in bed, he 1075 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.960 kind of like pushes his hips up and he swivels 1076 00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.360 him around and he tries to time a pelvic thrust 1077 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.119 with the like bamp and then he gives himself a rating. 1078 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.800 That's the last thing he does every day is pelvic 1079 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.920 thrust to the end of the Family Guy theme song. 1080 00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.239 And it's like that was a nine, that was a four, 1081 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.079 that that wasn't a great one. I didn't time that right. 1082 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.039 And he just falls asleep, and he says, he falls 1083 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.039 asleep immediately. So every day ends with pelvic thrusting with 1084 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.159 a Family Guy theme song and immediately falling asleep. 1085 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:34.079 Mary, you go first. 1086 00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:37.960 I don't know what to make of it. 1087 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:41.239 I mean it's I mean, it's like such a lonely. 1088 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:44.679 Experience as someone who doesn't sleep well. I guess whatever works. 1089 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:48.440 Yeah, surrounded by solar panel surrounded by solar panel lights 1090 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:48.880 on the floor. 1091 00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:51.639 Do I tell you about that? No, Jesus is a 1092 00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:52.039 short one. 1093 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.400 So we moved into his trailer and he bought all 1094 00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:57.320 these solar panel lights to like put on his trailers 1095 00:46:57.360 --> 00:46:59.239 so if somebody comes to rob him, it'll like blast 1096 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:01.519 him with a big flood light. And then he didn't 1097 00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:03.039 know how to install it, so he called his friend 1098 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.519 over to be like, hey, can you nail these to 1099 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:06.920 my house? And he's like, Paul, there's lights on the street. 1100 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:08.719 It's well illuminated even in the middle of the night. 1101 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.880 You don't need these. And so my dad's like, I 1102 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:11.920 know exactly what to do. 1103 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:17.920 So he puts them these outdoor floodlights solar powered in 1104 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:21.400 his bedroom on the floor. So when he wakes up 1105 00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:22.960 to go pee in the middle of the night. Several 1106 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:26.400 times he wakes up, the motion sees him and brown 1107 00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:29.440 just lights up the fucking bedroom so we can walk 1108 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:33.360 to the bathroom. And then every day he takes these, 1109 00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.360 he has to charge them, so he puts them on 1110 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.880 the deck. So he puts these floodlights on the deck 1111 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:39.800 to get the sun juice so we can put them 1112 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.559 on the bedroom floor, which just blasted with like nuclear 1113 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.400 light when he has to pee in the middle of 1114 00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.239 the night. That's all my dad. 1115 00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.760 Why not just get like night lights that plug in 1116 00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:50.320 and just that's what they're there for. And they're not 1117 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.159 as intense as outdoor floodlights. 1118 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.079 So no, this wors great. I thought this was really 1119 00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:55.480 a smart idea. I thought this was great, like and 1120 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:56.000 he loves it. 1121 00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.320 How did you did you just stumble on this when 1122 00:47:58.320 --> 00:47:59.440 you visited this? 1123 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.239 It was my first time in his trailer and it 1124 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:03.679 was the I think the first thing he said, like, 1125 00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:04.559 check this out. 1126 00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.719 I'm a genius. It was like the first thing he 1127 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.079 told me. And I was like, why don't you just 1128 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:11.000 get night lights? And he said, oh, this is much better. 1129 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.559 Okay, he's never gonna I guess I'll see clearly at night. 1130 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:17.880 I just think he guess. 1131 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:19.400 Doesn't move in his sleep because if he moves it all, 1132 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:20.360 he's gonna get blasted. 1133 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:23.280 Does that, like in the middle of the night. 1134 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.639 That like, So here's the thing, just like he moved 1135 00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.280 because he didn't want neighbors, because the smoking thing, and 1136 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.679 he loves it because like the trailer. 1137 00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.360 Close to him likes to smoke. He likes to smoke. 1138 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.079 And there's no one in the trailer next to him 1139 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:40.920 because the previous tenants were a murder suicide situation, and 1140 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.440 the tenants before that, the owner threw himself in front 1141 00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:46.199 of a train. So people think that trailers haunted and 1142 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.519 no one moves into it, and so he's just like, hell, yeah, 1143 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.360 no neighbors to talk to me while I'm smoking Thanks 1144 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:51.280 murder suicide. 1145 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.480 Maybe it's the ghosts that are giving him these ideas. 1146 00:48:57.400 --> 00:48:59.079 No, this is pure paw record thinking. 1147 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.480 I don't think he lives next to a haunted trailer. 1148 00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:04.000 You might, I don't know. 1149 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:05.840 Also resent that he's making me say a word I 1150 00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.599 can't pronounce correctly when we talk about him. 1151 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.159 Yeah, so that's what's going on, Dad, that's good trusting, 1152 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.199 he leads, he's gonna be thrilled about the family. Guy. 1153 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:19.159 I mean, I thrust myself asleep, you know what I mean? 1154 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:23.480 But like that doesn't thrust myself awake too, you know 1155 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:23.880 what I mean? 1156 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:33.719 Not really? But it's okay. How I know anything else new? 1157 00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:39.559 Sure? Okay? 1158 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:39.840 Dan? 1159 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.920 The metal Gear Solid is it called metal Gear Solid 1160 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.440 three Delta, metal Gear Solid. 1161 00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:47.280 Delta gar Solid Delta Snake Eater, which I do think 1162 00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:49.639 is smart because that gives them the room if they 1163 00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:51.800 want to remake other ones. You know, you could just 1164 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:53.800 have like meddle your solid Delta the twin Snakes, Meddle 1165 00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.199 your Solid Delta. Sons of Liberty Delta could be the 1166 00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:58.360 remake series, or you. 1167 00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.159 Could do whatever, Alpha, Mega, whatever the fu I want 1168 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:00.559 to do with it. 1169 00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:02.920 How yeah, I think it's it would be weird to 1170 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.199 like put a three in front of it when you're 1171 00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.280 trying to remake this for a new generation that hasn't 1172 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.079 played the old games, because it's like, God, I don't 1173 00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:10.599 want to jump in on the third one. They might 1174 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.840 not know it's actually the first one chronologically and all 1175 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:14.840 that stuff. So honestly, I think that the title is 1176 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.559 a good call. But yeah, I was in New York 1177 00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.079 recently and it was one of those It was a 1178 00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.639 one day, all day thing where you sit down and 1179 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:26.440 just play the fucking game, and it was great, Like 1180 00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:29.119 it was just I almost beat the game. I only 1181 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.880 had like an hour and a half or so left 1182 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:32.519 to play when I got home, and they give us 1183 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:34.280 the code right after the event, so we were able 1184 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.000 to pick up immediately once I got home. So yeah, 1185 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.400 I just ran through it really quick. And I think 1186 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:41.239 the reason I was able to run through so quick 1187 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.400 is because it is the same game that I've played 1188 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.760 three million times before. It is one to one in 1189 00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.840 most ways. Outside we're talking outside quality life stuff, we 1190 00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.320 took it to that in a second. The presentation, the 1191 00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.599 way the world is set up and segmented, like you know, 1192 00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:59.599 the different areas, the cutscene direction and all that stuff. 1193 00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.920 It is one to one, like literally like to the second, 1194 00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:06.079 like the cuts. It's like they did Psycho remake. Do 1195 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.039 you remember this when they remade Psycho with Vin's Vaughan 1196 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:09.719 and it was like it was shot for shot and 1197 00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.159 it was like, that's weird. This is like a good 1198 00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:14.119 version of that where it's like they're not doing this, 1199 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.800 isn't their take on like we made it's our Snake Eater. 1200 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.800 It's like, no, Hideo Kadrema's name is all over this. 1201 00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:21.400 Even though there was the messy divorce and all that 1202 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:26.320 stuff with Konami. This is them modernizing Hideo Kadima's game 1203 00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:31.800 with quality of life, with modernized controls, much better visuals. 1204 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.199 So it's kind of exactly what you would want as 1205 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:36.239 a metal gear. 1206 00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.280 Like super Fan. I don't know how I would do 1207 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.039 this differently. It does feel better. 1208 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:42.039 The new control stuff is great, being able to like 1209 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.199 swap camo and call people in the codec and everything 1210 00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:46.840 like on the fly and not always having to go 1211 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:50.280 into a deeper menu that's very handy, especially the Camo stuff. 1212 00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.639 You can literally like, Okay, I'm not in the jungle anymore. 1213 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.599 I'm against this red brick wall. I'm going to hold 1214 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.000 in a button on the dpad and just switch right over. 1215 00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.000 No problem, don't need to pause and go through stuff. 1216 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.800 Still has the Survival Viewer stuff, which I was not 1217 00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.199 a big fan of. I didn't like because I play 1218 00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.519 the game like an I suck at stealth. So I'm 1219 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:10.360 just kind of blasting everyone in that game. So I'm 1220 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:13.480 getting shot a lot, and so for someone like me, 1221 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:15.639 I have to pause all the time, go into the 1222 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.119 Survival Viewer and like, Okay, gotta bandage up my thing, 1223 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:20.360 gotta take out the bullet, gotta put the stiptick and 1224 00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:22.039 disinfect it. And so like I'm spending a lot of 1225 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.039 time that menu. There's kind of a part of me 1226 00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:26.239 that's like they're gonna change one bigger thing about it. 1227 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:28.079 I would love to not have the Survival Viewer, but 1228 00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:29.960 I'm sure most people are playing it like a stealth 1229 00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:31.159 game because it's a stealth game. 1230 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.719 Yeah, it's so funny. I take so long in stealth. 1231 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:38.639 In most games that offer it, I don't go just 1232 00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:39.920 blasting like a desth Treating two. 1233 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.199 I was playing like a stealth game as well. Oh yeah, 1234 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.400 I was just going in with an AKA and blasting people. Yeah, 1235 00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:45.679 Frank Chris, I. 1236 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.000 Always go in with good intentions and it just shifts 1237 00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.360 the bed immediately. And I would kind of do that here, 1238 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:51.920 or I would go in with good intentions. I'm gonna 1239 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.519 sneak up, but I'm gonna see QUC and I'm gonna 1240 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.440 interrogate him. In Steaven, I get caught immediately, so I 1241 00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:58.079 just kind of ran through that. 1242 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.960 I have a hard time with being stealthy as well. 1243 00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.679 I usually think that I'm being sneaky and then as 1244 00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:05.800 soon as I get caught, I'm like, all right, like, 1245 00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.920 whoever saw me, I'm shooting you right in the face, 1246 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:10.960 and then that makes noise and the other people find 1247 00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:12.400 me and then I run around. 1248 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:13.079 And no suppressure. 1249 00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:15.400 I'm just machine gun is brah, Like there's a gun 1250 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:17.599 that's so loud that when you shoot it and Snake Eater, 1251 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:22.039 snake goes like ah a rambo crazy mini gun situation. 1252 00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:23.960 And I used that for the last several hours of 1253 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.360 the game. So stealth was out the window for sure. 1254 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:29.519 But Mary like if you want to go in trying stealth, 1255 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:31.800 that is one of the things that they have added 1256 00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.079 is like L one is kind of like basically the 1257 00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:36.199 sneaky button. So it just kind of like, you know, 1258 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.079 like it goes in kind of a crouch walk type 1259 00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.320 thing and it kind of like brings like a vignette 1260 00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.559 effect to the you know, it's the quiet button basically, 1261 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:45.639 so that can help with sneaking up on people things 1262 00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.639 like that. But a lot of little changes to just 1263 00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:50.280 like the hud and stuff like the way that the 1264 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.079 way they move things around and just had kind of 1265 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.280 shortcuts and things like that. But ultimately it's the same game. 1266 00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:01.039 It just feels and looks better all the little I 1267 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:04.159 won't spoil anything in particular, but like Snake Eater and 1268 00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.280 all Kajima games have a lot of interesting little easter 1269 00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.360 eggs and weird things that like oh you might have 1270 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:11.400 missed this, or oh did you know you can do 1271 00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.679 this in this weird way. I'll just say that if 1272 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:17.039 you like those things in Snake Eater, I don't think 1273 00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.519 there were any of them that were not reflected here, 1274 00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.599 Like all those crazy like did you know you can 1275 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:22.599 do this this way? 1276 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:24.320 Like you can do it this way. 1277 00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.039 And yeah, even stuff that you would think wouldn't make 1278 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:31.000 it to the remake, things that didn't make it into 1279 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:33.679 you know, HD collections and things like that, like this 1280 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:36.639 is they they went above and beyond to rear. I 1281 00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:38.519 mean even like the Snake versus the ap Escape Monkey 1282 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:40.800 stuff I played on PS five. You know that's all 1283 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:44.199 in there, the secret Theater stuff from the Subsistence re release 1284 00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:44.639 back in the day. 1285 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.639 Maybe all take a long break from the game for 1286 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:49.679 a bit and come back and see how it's stay. 1287 00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.199 Maybe I saw someone at the review event turn off 1288 00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.360 the internet connection on their PS five and change the 1289 00:54:55.360 --> 00:55:00.000 clock and just see what happens, you know. So, yeah, 1290 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:03.159 it's it's interesting. Like, I for the most part, really 1291 00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:05.519 like the new visuals. I think all of the characters 1292 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.480 look awesome, and they look true to like yep, that 1293 00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.760 looks like what I would expect Snake or Eva or 1294 00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.800 Boss to look like in a modern game. There are 1295 00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:15.960 occasional things where it's like there are certain images that 1296 00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:18.360 are just so iconic that I've seen a million times 1297 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.679 in gifts and memes and stuff, Like I mean, Snake 1298 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:21.519 saluting at the grave. 1299 00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:22.800 Everyone's seen that a million times. 1300 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:24.360 You know, like it is just weird to see that 1301 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:26.599 thing where it's like I have that image burned into 1302 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:28.679 my brain of exactly what that looks like, and just 1303 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.119 to see like, you know, the coloring is different and 1304 00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.360 the model is a little different and stuff. It's just like, oh, okay, 1305 00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:33.440 I just kind of have to get used to it 1306 00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:35.199 because I'm so used to the old one. But I 1307 00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:36.599 think if I was playing it for the first time 1308 00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:38.760 in twenty twenty five with Delta, I don't think it'd 1309 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:40.440 be like this is weird. I think it's just because 1310 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:43.800 I'm very familiar with that original one. So it's all 1311 00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.199 to say, it's it's everything I would have wanted from 1312 00:55:46.199 --> 00:55:47.679 a snakey to remake, and I would want them to 1313 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:51.800 keep doing this approach with you know, one, two, four five. 1314 00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.039 Do you think that's what they're doing, is like they're 1315 00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:55.519 gonna go Fi and Gamut and do. 1316 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:56.239 Them all the reson. 1317 00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.480 I mean, they have definitely been asked about this at 1318 00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.320 the event. Yeah, they were asking, like there's a team 1319 00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:03.199 in place Economy that is like this seems to be 1320 00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:05.239 like the new Middle Year team is it's such. 1321 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.360 A cash cow too, Like I think if you redid 1322 00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:11.159 these for modern audiences, especially with just the history of 1323 00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:13.760 these games being so beloved, I think audiences would really 1324 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:14.760 gravitate towards that. 1325 00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.000 Yeah, and I think it's I don't want to say 1326 00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:19.079 it's like, you know, an easy cash in or anything, 1327 00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:23.119 but like, look, the source material is there, Just remake it, 1328 00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:24.599 and like you don't even have to do the full 1329 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:26.960 scale resid An Evil style thing. Just do we do 1330 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:30.360 it with Snake Eater here, Just make it modernized, because 1331 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:32.679 even as the Middle Year fan I am, I don't 1332 00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:34.400 want them to do their own new one. 1333 00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.639 That story is done, done, done. Even by the end 1334 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:39.280 of Kajema's time there, I was like, do we really 1335 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:42.039 need to fill in this gap of Big Boss' history 1336 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.400 in the seventies when, like you know, we've already seen 1337 00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.719 the character arc that leads to him becoming a villain 1338 00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:50.400 and Snake's story is fully complete and everyone involved is 1339 00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.960 their story ended. Middle Year Solid four I don't need 1340 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.480 anything before or after or in between that story meddle 1341 00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:58.639 Year Solid is a complete story for me already. 1342 00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.000 Yes, Mary, your hand is up. 1343 00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:06.280 If the Metal Gear story is very focused, Resident Evil 1344 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:09.719 can have new characters and a new environment and keep going. 1345 00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:13.239 Could Metal gear do that with a different character and 1346 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:16.039 be like, no, it's the same concept and it's the 1347 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.840 same universe, but it will be a different characters story record. 1348 00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.159 I'm going to have Claire Ashcroft going back to Raccoon City, 1349 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:24.199 new character. 1350 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:28.400 Yeah, it's it's I don't want that. I mean, you 1351 00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.159 could do that. I mean, it is a crazy world 1352 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:33.960 that they've created, you know, but it was the characters. 1353 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.880 Like the world itself was just the world, you know, 1354 00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.199 with the US and Russia and China and you know, 1355 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.239 it's like, but the thing that made it special was 1356 00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.400 Snake and all the different Snakes and all those characters, 1357 00:57:44.440 --> 00:57:48.079 so like, and all those characters had arcs that finished, 1358 00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.199 so like, you know, you had Riding's story continue with Revengeance. 1359 00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:53.599 That wasn't a Kajima directed game, and that was a 1360 00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.599 cool little bonus thing, but I don't need more of that. 1361 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.400 Just them try their own thing and not so like 1362 00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.280 they did Melt Your Survive after the Kajima divorce and 1363 00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.320 that was a totally different story and it just it 1364 00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:06.239 was bad. 1365 00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.360 But could you I mean, and I'm just going to 1366 00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:11.880 continue to compare it to Resident Evil, but like Resident 1367 00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.639 Evil had a bad game in another universe, and then 1368 00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:16.679 they tried again, and then they made a good game 1369 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.840 in like the Resident Evil Space with new characters. So 1370 00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.199 like maybe that was just a bad game for Metal Gear, 1371 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:24.280 but like I just did do a good game with 1372 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:25.079 new characters. 1373 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:27.559 Yeah, but if it was new characters at this point, 1374 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.400 like I don't think there's anything specific about the Metal 1375 00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.159 Gear universe that would like, why wouldn't you just make 1376 00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.639 a new you know, action series with sci fi elements 1377 00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:39.440 that because. 1378 00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:40.880 Metal Gears name is valuable. 1379 00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.079 Well, right, so if you're just Kinamy, you just want 1380 00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.280 to make money, sure, But like okay. 1381 00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:48.360 In this world where Konami wants to make. 1382 00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:51.360 Money the game, Yeah. 1383 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.880 You know, we've always known Konami to do things just 1384 00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:57.440 because it's the right thing to do. 1385 00:58:57.880 --> 00:58:59.280 South of the Earth, they're the best. 1386 00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:03.880 Yeah, it's I I don't doubt that they could do that. 1387 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:06.800 If it was just a purely you know, capitalist cash 1388 00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.000 grab situation, sure I could see them doing it. I 1389 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.800 I would imagine most Meddle year fans are probably in 1390 00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:16.800 my uh camp on that where it's like Kajima is 1391 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:18.639 doing his own thing, you know, Meddle of your fans 1392 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:20.719 are very interested in what Kajima is doing over here 1393 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.559 with you know, desk stranding obviously and then O D 1394 00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.239 and Physent and all that stuff. 1395 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:26.760 I mean Middle Year. 1396 00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:29.719 Is such a it is a Kajima like obviously there's 1397 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.960 a whole team and most of that team has moved 1398 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:36.800 over to Kaduma Productions. But Meddle Year withou Kajima, I 1399 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:38.800 don't I don't think a lot of people are clamoring 1400 00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:39.039 for that. 1401 00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:41.079 Yeah, I see what you're saying, Like you could write it. 1402 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:43.559 I would, I'd write a new Medal Year. 1403 00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.280 Yeah, the audience would accept us. 1404 00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.159 Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's I I think the Kadema 1405 00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.880 fans are getting enough Kajima as it is just in 1406 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.400 Meddle Year fans. Just give us some more remix, that'd 1407 00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:58.199 be great. Okay, give us a new Master collection. I 1408 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.880 just play four on modern console. Things like that like 1409 01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:01.760 that serious. 1410 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.280 I won't belabor it. I don't need more. I don't 1411 01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:07.800 give a shit. I was just curious of like if 1412 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.679 we thought that there was still something to be squeezed 1413 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:13.599 out of that IP, which is so beloved and appreciated. 1414 01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:15.039 But you know, I think I. 1415 01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.440 Think deast randing scratches that itch, especially to you know, 1416 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.000 feeling a little more, a little closer to like meddle 1417 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:21.039 year style gameplay. 1418 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.679 I think dest ranting scratch in that ge. Okay, yep, 1419 01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.599 but yeah both it's very good you both have played. 1420 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:30.079 Is the seat taken? 1421 01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:36.079 This is a cute one I sent. I think this 1422 01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:39.360 came from Wholesome Games, which is like a new They're 1423 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:40.960 not that new, but I think they've been around in 1424 01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:41.719 recent years. 1425 01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:44.800 Is like a sweet little. 1426 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:50.239 Pub that like kind of highlights games that are very cozy, 1427 01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:54.719 very wholesome, family friendly, et cetera. And we got a 1428 01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:57.400 couple of games from that new announcement and release. 1429 01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.800 And this seat what is this seat taken? 1430 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:05.519 Is from that very simple The concept is you are 1431 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:13.199 moving people around a bus or a movie theater or nightclub. 1432 01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:15.199 Yeah, and people have different wants. 1433 01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:17.760 Some people, for example, in the bus, some people are like, 1434 01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:20.639 I want to sit next to a window. I want 1435 01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:22.920 to sit facing the direction of the bus. I want 1436 01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:24.159 to talk to my best friend Lippy. 1437 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:25.880 I want to sit next to my mom. And I 1438 01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:26.920 don't like stinky people. 1439 01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.960 Yeah, yeah, I didn't shower, and I like to play 1440 01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:32.679 music that's loud, and so I like to. 1441 01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:34.159 Sleep on the bus. And yeah, I want to be 1442 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:35.480 by someone that's playing loud music. 1443 01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:39.440 Yeah, and so you're just sorting little people. They look 1444 01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:42.599 like little triangles and circles. This is very graphically. 1445 01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:43.920 Quaint. 1446 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:48.039 It is simple, but I think it works like that 1447 01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:50.639 art style because like you know, when you place everyone 1448 01:01:50.800 --> 01:01:52.400 and it doesn't give you the thumbs up like oh 1449 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.719 you finished the level, you can tell at a glance 1450 01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:57.159 like okay, who's not happy? And you'll just see somebody 1451 01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.119 and like they are such simple faces and just like 1452 01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.239 eyes and mouth, you'll see what person's like ah, and 1453 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:03.000 you hover over them, they're like I can't sleep, and 1454 01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:04.639 you're like fu shit. The person next to them is 1455 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.360 playing loud music or something. So it's like very easy 1456 01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:08.440 to read at a glance. 1457 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:11.559 It's like a wedding seating chart on the Steam screenshot 1458 01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.280 where one of the person people is looking at the 1459 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.599 other people at the table being like gold diggers in 1460 01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.760 an angry way, hats blocking their view. 1461 01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.760 In the movie theater, that's a funny one. 1462 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.599 In the movie theater example, coffee, some of the seats 1463 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.440 have popcorn on them, and there'll be people who like, 1464 01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:29.840 I won't sit in a messy seat, and so you 1465 01:02:29.880 --> 01:02:31.480 can't sit them there and so you have to be 1466 01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:34.880 Logic is a puzzle game. You're just sitting people in 1467 01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:37.119 places where they're happy. But the big hats are funny. 1468 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.239 There are some people who wear are like I'm wearing 1469 01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:41.639 my big hat and she's like, well yeah, and I 1470 01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:43.039 want to sit in the front row and it's like 1471 01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:44.039 you bitch, and so you have. 1472 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.159 To I want to steal popcorn? Yeah, and put you 1473 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:48.920 next to someone that has popcorn that I can steal. 1474 01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:49.559 Yeah. 1475 01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.239 What are their voices? Remind me of that language? It's 1476 01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:55.840 not simlish. There's another game where they speak just I 1477 01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:57.519 was just watching a video on Steam. It's like they 1478 01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:00.719 speak exactly like that, but I don't like y't animal crossing? 1479 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:07.880 Is it? Animal crossing? Personality is great, It's totally there's 1480 01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.360 logic puzzle things. If you ever did those logic puzzles 1481 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.880 where it's like, okay, well this person won't sit next. 1482 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:14.760 I mean it's just straight up one of those, but 1483 01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.480 with a cut c kind of aesthetic and very easy 1484 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:18.880 to just play with the mouse. I think it would 1485 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:20.719 work great on like an iPad or something, just dragging 1486 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:22.559 them around with your finger, dropping them into place. 1487 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:28.840 Ideal Steam det game or uh switch for sure you can. 1488 01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:29.079 Also. 1489 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.239 This is what I call those like couch cozy games 1490 01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:36.360 where you could watch something on TV and play this simultaneously, 1491 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:39.519 and you could you could actually manage both. You could 1492 01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:42.400 watch the show and you could casually move people around. 1493 01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:44.960 I do think the audio is cute, but you don't 1494 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.679 need it to play this, so you could you could 1495 01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:50.960 watch TV with it. I played this on my front 1496 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:54.719 porch after like long days of work where I was exhausted, 1497 01:03:55.800 --> 01:03:59.320 not mentally interested in playing a big old game, you know, 1498 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.119 or I'd have to be thinking and doing a lot 1499 01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.719 of stuff. This is just moving little duders around to 1500 01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:06.599 the seats that make them happy. 1501 01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:09.039 With no timers, no pressure. It's just a thing where 1502 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.039 it's like, yeah, you talk about a background thing like 1503 01:04:11.119 --> 01:04:12.760 you're watching something on TV. It's just like you don't 1504 01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.719 have to pause and worry about timing or like, you know, 1505 01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:16.400 you can just take your time with it and just like, 1506 01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:18.039 oh they're not happy, all right, let me take time 1507 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:19.239 to look around and see what they need it. 1508 01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:21.239 It's really cool. I like it a lot. 1509 01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.880 I think it's a quintessential cozy game. Like this is 1510 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:26.000 exactly what we talk about when we talk about like 1511 01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:28.679 a game that is just comfort. It is a comfort 1512 01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:31.719 food to play this video game. I do think it's 1513 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.679 well done. I think it accomplishes what it's set out 1514 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:38.960 to do. It never gets too complex or too intense 1515 01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:42.280 or anything. So this is not a challenging game. But 1516 01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:44.639 I will say I have gotten one time I got 1517 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.800 stuck on a level for like ten minutes where I 1518 01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.119 was like, I cannot make all these people freaking happy, 1519 01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.679 and eventually I figured it out. But like this is 1520 01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.039 this is a simple game that I think can bring 1521 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.719 joy or like comfort if you are feeling it. 1522 01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:59.599 Yeah, I'd say it's like a notch or two above 1523 01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:03.519 something like Unpacking in terms of complexity, where it's like, 1524 01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:05.480 you know, Unpacking, you're just going to play some stuff 1525 01:05:05.480 --> 01:05:07.480 everywhere and it's just purely like kind of visual and 1526 01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:09.519 moving stuff around. Occasionally there's a little bit of logic. 1527 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.519 This is that similar thing of like okay, I'm putting 1528 01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.280 all these things into a space, but there is a 1529 01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:15.199 little bit more complexity of like, okay, I do need 1530 01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.920 to figure out there are criteria for each one of 1531 01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:19.679 these things instead of just do I have wall space, 1532 01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:20.079 you know. 1533 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:21.880 And there's like some story. 1534 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:23.920 But I found that I just kept skipping it because 1535 01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.559 I don't give it. I don't get about like these 1536 01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:28.519 people who like want to be in a movie or 1537 01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.639 something like that. There's like some kind of story arc 1538 01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:33.119 between characters that is of no value to me. 1539 01:05:33.360 --> 01:05:35.039 I just want to put these little hexagons with eyes 1540 01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:35.800 into a movie theater. 1541 01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:39.880 See me put the circle in the seat. He's crying, 1542 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.119 he wants his mom, and I'm gonna put him there. Yeah. 1543 01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:45.119 Also nice endorphin rush. 1544 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.159 When you do get everybody where they want to be, 1545 01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:52.079 you hit like accept and little thumbs up up here 1546 01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:56.360 near every person that got what they wanted. And I 1547 01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.280 think it gives you like a really nice, like great job. 1548 01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.000 You're a fucking genius, you know. It makes you feel 1549 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.079 good at each level and then you move on. 1550 01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:06.599 So yeah, I thought it was quite quite simple, but 1551 01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:07.199 quite cute. 1552 01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:09.880 Yep, Yeah, great, great game on the go. Bring it 1553 01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:11.639 on a plane or something like that. Yeah, I think 1554 01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:13.079 I'm going to play that on the flight. 1555 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:17.239 Sounds good. Do either of speaking of flight games, do 1556 01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:22.159 either of you have much affection for the tower defense subgenre. 1557 01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:26.519 I have had times where it's like, yeah, an exceptional 1558 01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:28.440 one of those I can really get into, but it's 1559 01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:29.920 you know kind of few and far between, but yeah, 1560 01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:30.880 I'm open to airs. 1561 01:06:30.960 --> 01:06:31.440 I love a. 1562 01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.679 Tower defense if it's not too complicated. 1563 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:37.480 Most sometimes if it's like you know, there's like four 1564 01:06:37.519 --> 01:06:40.599 different alien species that are coming after you, you have 1565 01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:42.159 like something unique for each other, I'm like, come on, 1566 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.039 just like what do you want me to do? But like, 1567 01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:47.280 tell me about your tower defense because I do like 1568 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:48.079 a tower defense. 1569 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.639 So how would you feel if I told you this 1570 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:55.599 was had roguelike elements where you're not. It's not only 1571 01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:58.280 randomizing the terrain tiles you get so you can dictate 1572 01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:00.679 the path to your base that it's going through, and 1573 01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:04.079 those are randomized. You can reroll. There's currency to reroll. 1574 01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:08.960 There's different towers that also get served to you, different 1575 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:13.599 upgrades perks. Towered Dominion. I found it on Steam. It's 1576 01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:15.639 served up. I will say, the SEO or whatever you 1577 01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:17.800 want to say, is not great because if you search 1578 01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.320 tower defense, this does not pop up high on the 1579 01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:22.199 list for me. So it just got served to me 1580 01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:25.679 because Plants Versus Zombies has those games coming out in 1581 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.360 the fall, so it's like, oh, okay, maybe I'll check 1582 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:29.119 out some tower defense because I really like those games. 1583 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:32.599 Towered dominion looks not great. 1584 01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.079 It is not the most logo is the most app 1585 01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:37.360 store looking. It looks like shovel wear. 1586 01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:39.800 And also when you get into the game, the characters 1587 01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:44.880 look terrible. Yeah, actually a very very. 1588 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:50.840 Hideous but audibly A nightmare plays like dog shit. 1589 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:55.039 No plays extremely well. It's like the Latro and Plants 1590 01:07:55.119 --> 01:07:58.079 versus Zombies had a baby. Because oh, you've got three 1591 01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:04.239 different factions, and then each of those factions like commandic 1592 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.480 Conquer generals, have their own generals within them that have 1593 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:12.239 different perks. You're getting tiles every three rounds, I think 1594 01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.840 it is to place on the map. They will have 1595 01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:18.800 different elevations, they will have different pathways. You're also getting 1596 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:23.840 served after each wave is dead. The three possible tower 1597 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.560 and or perk combinations, so you're getting towers that are 1598 01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:29.319 basically your cards to play. Some of them are like 1599 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.000 artillery towers. Some of them are sniper roosts. Some of 1600 01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:35.680 them are just like bunkers with machine guns. You can 1601 01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:37.960 also pick from a bunch of perks throughout that will 1602 01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:40.239 amp up. Oh, this L shaped bunker. There's also like 1603 01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:42.840 a tetris thing where you're trying to fit them around 1604 01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:46.199 certain bends in the path, you'll get an upgrade, say like, oh, 1605 01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:49.680 the Imperial bunkers will instead of one machine gun that 1606 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:51.800 faces this way, there'll be many small guns that do 1607 01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:54.680 more spread out damage. And then you can combine that 1608 01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:58.600 with a card that anytime you place two Imperial bunkers 1609 01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:00.840 next to each other, that will amplify both their damages 1610 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:04.199 by fifty percent. For instance, certain generals will be like, oh, 1611 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:08.159 with the sniper roost towers, if you any building from 1612 01:09:08.199 --> 01:09:10.359 here on out next to a sniper roos tower will 1613 01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:13.119 do plus twenty percent damage, So that general you're really 1614 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:16.880 prioritizing that if you find a sniper tower card you're 1615 01:09:16.920 --> 01:09:19.840 playing those, you can upgrade the base itself to have 1616 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.560 turrets all over it. You can there's certain towers that 1617 01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:27.439 take out camouflaged enemies. Whereas other people cannot see technically 1618 01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.319 see those camouflaged enemies. Your base is also sending out 1619 01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:34.039 this swarm of soldiers to go fight on foot in 1620 01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:37.960 the pathway. Certain generals, you buff those soldiers to have 1621 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:43.159 more health, sniper rifles, swords, machetes, et cetera. I'm like 1622 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:47.039 pretty hooked on this game. It reminds me. Sorry, go ahead, Dan. 1623 01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:48.840 Oh no I was just gonna say, I just downloaded 1624 01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:50.640 it while you were talking about it, because I am 1625 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.279 realizing that, like, boy, I do really like a good 1626 01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:55.680 one of these, and oh god, they don't get surfaced 1627 01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.399 to me, and like I'm just picturing myself on a 1628 01:09:57.399 --> 01:09:59.960 plane just getting lost in one of these and describing 1629 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:00.600 it sounds great. 1630 01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.920 It nails that balance between there's enough complexity where if 1631 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:06.520 you really want to like dive into it, you can 1632 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:09.439 minmax some towers and go bilatro and like really try 1633 01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:13.560 to make your faction overpowered. But it's also simple enough 1634 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.279 where it's just satisfying to see the towers you play 1635 01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:19.840 start melting these enemies. Yes, it's very satisfying. 1636 01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.880 To this genre of feeling where it's like you kind 1637 01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:25.600 of hit the right. Yeah, it's like yeah, okay, wave seven. Yeah, 1638 01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:26.960 come on, fucker, let's see how you do with this. 1639 01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:28.159 Yeah that's a good feeling. 1640 01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:30.960 Yeah, there's and again you could it's not afraid to 1641 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:33.960 let you break it where it's like, oh, okay, I 1642 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.720 have six mini bunkers in like a square formation. I 1643 01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:41.359 also have a perk called tightly packed, where if I 1644 01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:45.159 have a group of four buildings or any building with 1645 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:48.079 four other buildings adjacent to it gets plus one hundred 1646 01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.520 percent damage or something, so then you upgrade that tower 1647 01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:53.560 to have four snipers in it. And they're also doing 1648 01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.119 like rail gun damage. And this is not all A 1649 01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:58.439 lot of these are like I'm forgetting the details, but 1650 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:01.520 that's basically the flow of a game. I also say 1651 01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.119 it's not overly difficult. On the easiest difficulty either are 1652 01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:08.840 five you do twenty five waves. Every few waves, there's 1653 01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.399 like a boss wave where like, oh, this enemy could 1654 01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.119 come up from underground anywhere on your path. Also, I 1655 01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:16.479 will say the path they are not allowed to let 1656 01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.560 you or they are not afraid to let you like 1657 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:22.159 break it because you get Tetris tiles basically with the pathway, 1658 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:25.119 and you can reroll those with recon, which is a 1659 01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:30.039 separate currency from the regular supplies. But you can make 1660 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.920 the path so unfair to the end the bugs. It's 1661 01:11:32.920 --> 01:11:35.840 basically like bugs from Hell divers too. You can make 1662 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:40.279 the path so unfair the AI like cannot go if 1663 01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:42.359 there is a fork in the road, but you can 1664 01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.119 easily create if the RNG works in your favor, they 1665 01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:48.760 will split up, so you can make them kind of 1666 01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:52.039 loop back on themselves for all intents and purposes back 1667 01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:54.399 into where they came from, giving the rest of your 1668 01:11:55.039 --> 01:11:58.159 towers all that much more time to destroy them. And 1669 01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:00.159 to be clear, there are some crazy towers here. There 1670 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:04.039 are like giant howitzers that only shoot in a straight line. 1671 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:07.039 When you're placing towers, I should say, it shows you 1672 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.279 it's like vision cone. The square tiles that it can 1673 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:11.760 shoot at. You could place them at higher elevation, which 1674 01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:17.039 again roguelike. You get tiles with different hills on them, 1675 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:18.720 and if you put a sniper tower on the top 1676 01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:20.279 of a hill, it will show you yellow squares that 1677 01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:23.039 it's getting extra ones from being higher elevation. You can 1678 01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:27.600 also spend basically dirt cheap money on platforms to raise 1679 01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:31.880 manually raise the terrain because some of these like will 1680 01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:34.479 not fit on like hills, Like the howitzer needs three 1681 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.119 level squares and it will only shoot in one straight line. 1682 01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.119 But if you build your map correctly, you could put 1683 01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:42.359 it next to your base and it will just shred 1684 01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:46.399 anything on that straight line. I don't even truly, I 1685 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.199 didn't even look into I believe it's a Spanish developer. 1686 01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:51.800 I need to double check that because a lot of 1687 01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:53.920 the towers have like a Spanish name like mirodor. 1688 01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:55.399 It is the yes right go. 1689 01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:58.800 You said that it was rogue light, Like are you 1690 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.479 saying that you can die perme and like you're done 1691 01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:05.479 like yours. 1692 01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:09.840 It's a rogue light. So your boss, your base has 1693 01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:11.840 like two thousand health to start. If the end enough 1694 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:15.640 enemies basically just body slam your base. You start over, 1695 01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:19.399 uh from scratch, and then at that point you start 1696 01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:21.840 over with just your base tile the first tile you're 1697 01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:25.640 you're building a new completely new pathway and getting new towers, 1698 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:27.920 and you can pick a new general with different perks, 1699 01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:32.000 like one will have anything adjacent to the base amplifies 1700 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:36.640 the base's damage times ten percent whatever. But it's a 1701 01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:39.920 rogue light. So you're unlocking I'm pretty consistently unlocking new 1702 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:42.279 generals to try out of the three factions. I want 1703 01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:44.159 to say, there's like thirty generals, if not more. 1704 01:13:45.720 --> 01:13:45.920 New. 1705 01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:50.119 You're unlocking new upgrades for existing powerful towers, so it's like, oh, 1706 01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:54.800 I just unlocked an upgrade from my sniper Roosts or 1707 01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.159 whatever that can hit camouflage now it can also do 1708 01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:02.439 X or Y. You're also unlocking new perks like I 1709 01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:04.439 just got like similar to balattro. You're kind of getting 1710 01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:08.439 new jokers quote unquote where it's like, oh shit, I 1711 01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:11.239 never really use that tower, but that says the explosion 1712 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:14.640 radius will go up five percent each wave. Now I'm 1713 01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:16.119 going to use a lot of those now, because that 1714 01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:21.239 would be awesome for the commander whose base buffs allow 1715 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.920 towers near the base. So with their range combined with 1716 01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.000 the base buff, they're going to do a lot of damage. 1717 01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:28.760 So I don't even remember, I don't. 1718 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:31.239 I'm so happy that Steam served this up to me 1719 01:14:31.279 --> 01:14:34.520 when I just like clicked on the store page, because yeah, 1720 01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:37.359 not a good looking game at all, but really nuanced 1721 01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:41.520 and in depth. Like I think about this game when 1722 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.760 I'm not playing it, perfect balance between It's so satisfying 1723 01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:47.960 in that round twenty five or fifty or whatever it 1724 01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:51.279 is to watch all these bosses come and like you 1725 01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:53.560 set up this one kill zone at an intersection with 1726 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:55.600 a bunch of overlapping turrets and they walk in and 1727 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:56.720 just their health bars. 1728 01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:57.800 Like boom, boom boom. 1729 01:14:57.840 --> 01:14:59.520 It's it's really good. 1730 01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:02.479 I like, have you quite a on Steam deck or no? 1731 01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:05.000 I just that's like mouse and keyboard would probably be. 1732 01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:08.159 I don't know, I could see it being I actually 1733 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:10.279 don't even I don't even see if it are you 1734 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:11.880 on the store page, does it say like steam Deck 1735 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:13.079 recommended or anything. 1736 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:13.920 Because it's verified. 1737 01:15:14.319 --> 01:15:16.159 Okay, I could see it being like a good touch 1738 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:19.760 screen game, but it's not an overly complex UI in 1739 01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:22.079 a good way like they They simplify it just enough 1740 01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:26.720 without simplifying the complexity of the gameplay. But I could 1741 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:28.199 see it being great on steam Deck, and I hope 1742 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.199 it's good on Steam because absolutely this would be an 1743 01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:31.199 amazing playing game. 1744 01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:33.840 Yeah, you're you're getting me, like I haven't. I've tried 1745 01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:34.039 to think. 1746 01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:35.720 The last one I got really into and I forgot 1747 01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:38.239 the name of it until now. It's Kingdom Rush was 1748 01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:41.039 one that likey like twenty eleven or so, and I remember, like, 1749 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:42.760 all right, that was on like iOS. I remember playing 1750 01:15:42.760 --> 01:15:44.720 that on I like I almost never played mobile games, 1751 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:46.760 and I remember thinking like that on like iPad was 1752 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:49.079 super super good, And a lot of what you're describing 1753 01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:51.039 is like, oh fuck, yeah, I really can get into. 1754 01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:53.760 These, and the tower Defense yeah, oh it's I will 1755 01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.279 also say I play a lot of Tower Defense is 1756 01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:58.279 one of my favorite like sub sub genres or I 1757 01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:01.760 don't even know what you call it. Uh, it's it's 1758 01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:04.319 one of my favorites. Like, if you're looking at the 1759 01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:08.159 simple end, you've got balloons like six, which is on iOS, which, 1760 01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:10.960 to be clear, I still like those games too. Then 1761 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.680 you've got the really complex ones, and like Oculus had 1762 01:16:14.680 --> 01:16:16.479 that one. I forget what it was called, but that 1763 01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.960 got really complex. This is somewhere it's leaning complex, but 1764 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.439 it really because of the roguelike elements. It's so easy 1765 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:25.079 to jump in and out of, and because you're getting 1766 01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:28.159 served three cards you have to pick from, it never 1767 01:16:28.159 --> 01:16:31.399 gets overwhelming like it feels I mentioned Blattro because of 1768 01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:33.920 the cards they're serving you. It's like part of you 1769 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.279 is making a plan with the deck you're building, but 1770 01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:38.640 another part of you is also reacting to what the 1771 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.439 game is giving you. So it's a really nice middle ground. Yeah, 1772 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.560 it's I think it's seven too on Steam right now, 1773 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:47.920 by the way. Oh nice, Like, and it's well worth 1774 01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:50.159 that seventeen dollars in my opinion. I've already I've played 1775 01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.159 like twelve hours and I already feel like I got 1776 01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:53.880 that money's worth, and I plan on playing at least 1777 01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:55.479 another twelve I'm in. 1778 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:57.600 This sounds awesome, you know, what This sounds like one 1779 01:16:57.600 --> 01:16:59.720 that'd be really good for switch with the mouse controls, 1780 01:17:00.399 --> 01:17:03.279 you know, like games that could actually utilize the mouse 1781 01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:05.640 controlled stuff. O. Yeah, this sounds like something like that. 1782 01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:10.000 But for sure, like I'm looking at let Me Tired Dominion. Yeah, 1783 01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.159 like it looks like almost like so it's funny. The 1784 01:17:12.199 --> 01:17:15.880 logo looks like it reminds me of the Advanced Wars remakes. 1785 01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:19.640 Then you go into the game. Yeah, and each faction 1786 01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:23.079 has Again there's three different factions with different generals, and 1787 01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:25.520 each of them have I've beaten twenty five rounds with 1788 01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:32.039 six of them. But I believe look at the achievements. 1789 01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:34.920 I don't know, it's just I like the game quite 1790 01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:37.119 a bit. The reviews of people who played it doesn't 1791 01:17:37.159 --> 01:17:39.279 have a ton but like very positive reviews. Came out 1792 01:17:39.319 --> 01:17:40.680 in May seventh. I believe it might have been an 1793 01:17:40.680 --> 01:17:41.760 early access before that. 1794 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.520 Boy, these characters look like shit, Oh they're so bad. 1795 01:17:46.039 --> 01:17:48.600 Do you know the difference between a girl commander and 1796 01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:51.760 a boy commander because it's two big reason. 1797 01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:55.359 Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and everyone looks like a funk opop. 1798 01:17:55.680 --> 01:17:59.000 Oh yeah, very bad looking game, I will say once 1799 01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:02.520 you're in it in the act is happening. I it's 1800 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:07.279 weirdly kind of nice because it never gets crazy disorienting. 1801 01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:08.560 Yeah, it's read. 1802 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:10.720 The gameplay puttage and that looks like I'm fine with that, 1803 01:18:10.800 --> 01:18:11.880 Like that needs to be readable. 1804 01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:13.840 That that's okay. But then every time a character comes in, 1805 01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:15.000 it's like, so, if. 1806 01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:17.920 You're on this team page, there's a screenshot. If you're not, 1807 01:18:17.960 --> 01:18:20.640 don't worry. But third from the right screenshot it shows 1808 01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:23.840 the codex that shows you the different heroes you can unlock, 1809 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.840 the different doctrines, which are just perks you can It's 1810 01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:29.279 like Vampire Survivor where you're kind of like sort of 1811 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:34.119 unlocking everything. It's similar to Vampire Survivors. I always feel 1812 01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:37.039 like I have an unlocked to work toward. Yeah, so 1813 01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:41.319 that's that challenge screen has been awesome too. The biggest 1814 01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:44.119 golf between how a game looks and how it plays. 1815 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.239 In a while, I can't remember the last time I'm 1816 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:49.880 like putting up with such bad art direction because the 1817 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:52.840 gameplay is so good. Right, Yeah, Okay, if you're interested 1818 01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:54.319 all in those kind of games, check it out. Like 1819 01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:56.880 I said, seventeen, I think of seventeen or eighteen, something 1820 01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:59.800 like that. Seventeen ninety nine, well. 1821 01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:00.000 Worth the mind. 1822 01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:03.199 I will report back on Steam deck capability after LA 1823 01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:06.079 because if I could play this on a flight, this 1824 01:19:06.119 --> 01:19:12.600 will absolutely melt the hours away. Oh hell yeah, what 1825 01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:14.000 else are you guys playing? 1826 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:14.359 Dan? 1827 01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:14.880 Or? No? 1828 01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:16.399 Sorry? Mary? Wait? 1829 01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:16.960 Is this Peak? 1830 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.159 There's another new update since the Cannibalism update. 1831 01:19:19.640 --> 01:19:23.520 Yes, there has been new levels added to Peak. So 1832 01:19:24.119 --> 01:19:26.239 I've already talked a lot about Peak and why I 1833 01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:31.479 like it, But the new level is uh a, it's 1834 01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:33.600 to help mix it up because the levels have always 1835 01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:36.960 been You're at the base camp, which is like a island, 1836 01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:39.840 and then you're in the jungle, and then you were 1837 01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:43.760 in a winter tundra and you had to keep warm, 1838 01:19:44.159 --> 01:19:46.800 and then it was the final level, which was like lava. 1839 01:19:46.920 --> 01:19:50.159 The new one replaces the winter level. So the third 1840 01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:59.039 area with sand like yeah, a desert, and it has 1841 01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.159 so much more weird stuff that you can interact with. 1842 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:06.279 It has what are those things that tumbleweeds? It has 1843 01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:11.680 tumble weeds and tornadoes that are in the sand dunes, 1844 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:14.239 and it even has these like dips in the sand dunes, 1845 01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:16.600 and there's monsters in there and they'll try and lure 1846 01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:19.960 you with presents or items and then like monsters will 1847 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:23.319 come out. It's very good. They've added lots of new 1848 01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:25.640 things to mix it up and have it be much 1849 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:29.640 more fun to just alter. Oh, they also gave new items, 1850 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.000 and the new items are so wacky. One of them 1851 01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:34.520 is a cannon, and so you could put people in 1852 01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:37.479 a cannon and shoot them to the next area, which 1853 01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:41.359 is so funny. It's really hard to like aim, so 1854 01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:44.800 you might just shoot them off the cliff. And I 1855 01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:47.800 think they've really done it this time. Like the new 1856 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:53.000 items are hilarious. They add for so much more dynamic 1857 01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.119 gameplay where you're just like, I don't know how to 1858 01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:58.439 get to this next area. I guess we'll all just 1859 01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:00.960 shoot each other out of this cannon. I think it's 1860 01:21:01.680 --> 01:21:04.479 a brilliant update. And they continue to impress me with 1861 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:06.840 like the way that they they bring me back. 1862 01:21:07.479 --> 01:21:11.680 I like how they are also playing into like this surprise, like, 1863 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:13.920 god damn it, we made this another Crabs treasure game 1864 01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.399 that's like a full on like souls like type thing, 1865 01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.119 and now this they're they are playing it up like, oh, 1866 01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:21.199 we made this stupid little joke thing on the side, 1867 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:24.800 and it's like super outselling everything. Well because little joke 1868 01:21:24.880 --> 01:21:27.640 thing was actually a really fucking good game. It is like, 1869 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:30.159 you know, for the friend slop term and everything, it's 1870 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:32.439 one of the better ones out there. And uh, I 1871 01:21:32.760 --> 01:21:34.359 love the idea of them continuing to add to and 1872 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:36.319 everything because I would love any chance to go back 1873 01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:38.680 in there. They I want them to add a private 1874 01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.079 friend code type stuff because like last night I edit 1875 01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.000 a stream and I was like, oh shit, I would 1876 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:44.760 love to let me hop in the peak. I'll put 1877 01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:46.399 on the mod that lets me, you know, uncap the 1878 01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:49.720 player count. Yeah, but it was like you have to 1879 01:21:49.720 --> 01:21:51.359 be Steam friends with everyone, So it's like, I'm not 1880 01:21:51.439 --> 01:21:54.399 that I love. Maybe that's a specific use case for 1881 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:57.199 you know, people like that's that stuff, But yeah, I 1882 01:21:57.920 --> 01:21:59.640 love to be able to bring in seven people from 1883 01:21:59.680 --> 01:22:02.279 the chat and have them have prox chat on stuff 1884 01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:03.960 like that and let's just see what happens, you know. 1885 01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:06.479 But I think that would be a good update. And 1886 01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:08.760 I don't think it's like you can tell that they're 1887 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:10.680 developing this as they do it. I don't think it's 1888 01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:15.279 perfect either. I think the algorithm, because they're procedurally generated levels. 1889 01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:17.840 They had one where like the easiest way to get 1890 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:20.600 to the new area was a rope and the rope 1891 01:22:21.119 --> 01:22:23.960 ended at a lava fall. It's just like, Okay, well 1892 01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:27.960 I can't do that, and how does a how does 1893 01:22:27.960 --> 01:22:31.880 a vine get constructed into a lava rope? Anyway, Like, 1894 01:22:31.960 --> 01:22:34.520 obviously they just haven't refined it, and they even are 1895 01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:38.319 cheeky about it their Twitter account. One time, the fire, 1896 01:22:38.640 --> 01:22:40.119 which is what you need to light to get to 1897 01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:43.000 the next level, was on top of a tree that 1898 01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:46.000 you could not get to and so it was just broken, right, 1899 01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:48.039 and they were like, Haha, should I fix this or not? 1900 01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:51.319 Like they're cheeky about it. But I have to say, like, 1901 01:22:52.800 --> 01:22:54.680 because this game is so popular, it's also a lot 1902 01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:55.199 of pressure. 1903 01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:56.720 You know, they should be. 1904 01:22:56.720 --> 01:23:00.479 Making it so that it's functional and you can actually 1905 01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:06.800 get through this experience without too much pain. I really 1906 01:23:06.840 --> 01:23:09.279 again like chop this up to there's a lot of 1907 01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:13.560 potential right now in the industry for making co op 1908 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:17.840 experiences where you're essentially like climbing more to or with 1909 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:20.479 other people, and there's just not a lot out there, 1910 01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:24.880 and so this scratches that itch for people. It needs work. 1911 01:23:24.960 --> 01:23:27.840 It's not there yet. But what the bones of what 1912 01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:31.039 they have here are so fun and I'm even I'm 1913 01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.159 like gonna play this again tonight with people like I'm 1914 01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:36.119 I'm doing it again where I'm like scheduling time to 1915 01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:37.479 be like, who wants to play. 1916 01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:39.560 This crap with me? Because it's funny and it makes 1917 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:40.039 me laugh. 1918 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:43.159 Yeah, yeah, it's sticking around for a bit. 1919 01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:45.279 I wonder if this will have more legs than a 1920 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:47.119 lot of the because you know, there are a lot 1921 01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:48.600 of them that kind of blew up for a little bit. 1922 01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.319 You know, you're lethal companies and repo and stuff like that, 1923 01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.359 which I love these games, yeah, but I do feel 1924 01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:54.680 like at a certain point you just kind of stop 1925 01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:56.079 hearing about them, like pretty quickly. 1926 01:23:57.039 --> 01:23:59.039 I wonder if, through updates and things like that, if 1927 01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:00.560 they will have longer legs with this. 1928 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:04.239 This update helps a lot because the Tundra isn't very exciting. 1929 01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:08.960 It's just like, don't freeze to death and keep moving, 1930 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:13.560 whereas this new one in the desert has two different 1931 01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:16.000 distinct areas. One is getting across the desert and there's 1932 01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.720 all sorts of you know, these tornadoes. Oh. 1933 01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:20.560 Also you can get a sunburn, which is. 1934 01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:24.680 A funny little update, so like the sun will light 1935 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:27.479 you on fire. But they have a new item which 1936 01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.319 is sunscreen and you spray it and walk into it 1937 01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:32.760 to have sunscreen on your skin, and they give you 1938 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:34.880 parasols as well, So when I walk into the sun, 1939 01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:37.319 I just put on my little umbrella and walk around 1940 01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:40.159 through the sun and not burn. I think it's funny, 1941 01:24:40.159 --> 01:24:43.840 like they've added enough gameplay where it's like, oh, it 1942 01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.279 feels fresh, it feels nice, but you would have to 1943 01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:49.159 do that again in a couple months, not even like 1944 01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.680 in a month or two. I'm gonna want like some 1945 01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:53.880 fresh items or some new ways to play this, or 1946 01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:55.720 it just gets a little exhausting. The last thing I 1947 01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:57.720 just want to say, because it's never happened to me before, 1948 01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.199 is for the first time, I've never seen an enemy 1949 01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:04.399 in this game. There's no like NPC that attacks you. 1950 01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:09.960 That's it's mostly like lava or like falling to your dad. Yeah, 1951 01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:12.479 for the first time ever. When playing this game, one 1952 01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:14.640 of the people I was playing with started screaming bloody 1953 01:25:14.680 --> 01:25:17.239 murder and so they were being chased by a giant skeleton. 1954 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.520 I did get a screenshot of it, but I was alive, 1955 01:25:22.640 --> 01:25:26.119 so I couldn't see there what they were seeing. And 1956 01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:31.199 apparently if you when you first land, it keeps telling 1957 01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:35.159 you don't leave people behind. Stay together. It's a punishment 1958 01:25:35.520 --> 01:25:38.760 if one of you goes off ahead and leaves other 1959 01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:42.680 people behind. This guy can like come out and try 1960 01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:44.760 and kill you, which is nuts. 1961 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.680 And I haven't seen him yet. 1962 01:25:46.479 --> 01:25:50.520 But I heard my friend scream bloody murder when they 1963 01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:54.399 saw him, and it sounds freaky that that could even happen. 1964 01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:57.199 So I'm hoping they'll add more stuff like that where 1965 01:25:57.239 --> 01:25:58.359 it's like I'm being hunted. 1966 01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:01.119 Yeah, I still if you have to play this game, 1967 01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:03.199 it sounds rad though it's very it's very hard. 1968 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:04.239 I love to play with you guys. 1969 01:26:05.039 --> 01:26:06.680 I think we should schedule it. I think it's it's 1970 01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.760 really worth it, and I've really enjoyed it. But it's 1971 01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:13.279 hard even getting through the first area because again there's 1972 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:14.760 four areas of the first area. 1973 01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:17.359 I die all the time just in the first area. 1974 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:20.399 Because it's pretty deep into The third is the farthest 1975 01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:22.159 I've gotten. Don't think i've gotten to the fourth yet. 1976 01:26:22.359 --> 01:26:26.159 The fourth is also misleading because once you get to 1977 01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:30.439 the fourth there's a fire and I was like, did 1978 01:26:30.520 --> 01:26:32.479 we do it? Did we beat the game? And then 1979 01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:35.479 there was like another area that goes up, but it 1980 01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:36.600 didn't feel like it. 1981 01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:38.079 Was it felt like it was the same area. 1982 01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:40.520 So maybe there are five levels, but essentially like there's 1983 01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:42.920 like a lava area and then you have to climb 1984 01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:47.079 up in the same volcano, so it's like it's two essentially, 1985 01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:50.960 So gotch. Anyway, I've gotten really far, but I have 1986 01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:54.640 not beaten it. I've gotten so high in the final 1987 01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:59.279 climbing the volcano area, and I just I usually run 1988 01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:03.039 out of freakin' items. You need to save your items 1989 01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:08.159 because climbing is hard. Climbing, climbing is hard. Anyway, that's peak. 1990 01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:13.560 Yeah, it's a good one, Dan, Let's drag X drive. 1991 01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:20.439 You know, like Nintendo will put out like, hey, we're 1992 01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:22.640 gonna make several of the best games of all time 1993 01:27:22.680 --> 01:27:26.319 on a fairly you know, frequent basis. Also, they are 1994 01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:29.000 a weird fucking company that will occasionally put out a 1995 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.359 first party game that literally no one wants or likes. 1996 01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:36.079 That might be hyperbolic, because I think like grub was 1997 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:37.479 kind of having some fun with it. So it's it's 1998 01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:40.840 not it's not an objectively terrible game. It is one. 1999 01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:44.359 It's the wheelchair basketball game. Have you seen this about? No? 2000 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:47.880 Yeah, so you're in like a wheel you're like robot 2001 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:51.640 wheelchair people, and you take the joy cons out and 2002 01:27:51.680 --> 01:27:54.039 you got to play with both in mouse mode and 2003 01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:58.479 you're rubbing it against your thighs to like simulate doing 2004 01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:01.520 an actual like wheelchair situation. You can also do it 2005 01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:03.520 on like your desk if you're at a big mouse 2006 01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.760 pat or something like that. So it is yeah to 2007 01:28:05.760 --> 01:28:07.760 turn it's you know, one forward, one back. You know, 2008 01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:09.520 it's a you know, you got brakes on it, and 2009 01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:13.399 it's a three on three basketball game ostensibly, but it 2010 01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:15.720 was me Greb and Minati did it on a stream, 2011 01:28:16.199 --> 01:28:18.840 and it seems like we spent a long time trying 2012 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:20.600 to figure this out. It seems like there is no 2013 01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:23.640 way to just like, hey, Mike and Marry, you want 2014 01:28:23.680 --> 01:28:26.039 to play some three on three Drag x drive with people, 2015 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.399 like you can get in the same room with each other. 2016 01:28:28.439 --> 01:28:30.439 But then it just kind of randomly like there's like 2017 01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:32.239 a pool of twelve people and it's like, all right, 2018 01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.039 Mike and Marry, you're on this guy's team and I'm 2019 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:37.600 here with two balls. 2020 01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:44.319 It's insane, like they unaccepted stuff that's unaccepted Splatoon. 2021 01:28:44.479 --> 01:28:46.319 They've shown they can do it with some stuff, but 2022 01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:49.520 this one it's baffling, and like even when it works, 2023 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:53.039 if you're just playing the game, it's an instantly For me, 2024 01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.680 it was a instantly off putting control scheme of just 2025 01:28:56.720 --> 01:28:59.319 like my arms are getting tired, my forums are like 2026 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.000 just to move, you just have to constantly be fucking 2027 01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:04.880 rubbing these things against your thighs. And to shoot you 2028 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.239 just kind of like just do that motion with your arm, 2029 01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:11.119 and it's I love arcade sports games. I want more 2030 01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:14.479 NBA jams and NBA streets and all that stuff, And 2031 01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.920 I like gimmicks. I like motion gimmicks. This is not it. 2032 01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:21.479 This is it's bland looking. Everyone is just kind of 2033 01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:23.800 the same, bland looking like grayish robot. And you can 2034 01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:25.319 do a little bit of customization, but you still be 2035 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:27.359 like a generic robot guy. 2036 01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:31.119 When you do like sports games. I love Rocket League 2037 01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:34.039 is the quintessential one of like you get hats and 2038 01:29:34.079 --> 01:29:36.319 you get skins, and you could have unique tires, like 2039 01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:39.560 in this game, can you have a unique tire? Can 2040 01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:41.920 I have a different tire than you do? Because tires 2041 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:43.680 are obviously important. 2042 01:29:43.479 --> 01:29:46.119 In this there's customization, like there are some like textures 2043 01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:48.119 and stuff you can put on your little hats and 2044 01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:49.960 suits and you can put whatever number you went on 2045 01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:50.960 the back, but like not in. 2046 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:52.760 Like you know, Rocket League at this point. Obviously Rocket 2047 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:54.359 Leagues went around for like over a decades but sore. 2048 01:29:54.399 --> 01:29:56.319 But even when it first came out, you could have 2049 01:29:56.520 --> 01:29:59.199 real fun little hats and stuff to make yourself feel 2050 01:29:59.239 --> 01:29:59.960 and look special. 2051 01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:02.600 Yeah it's insane too. Is this is a game you 2052 01:30:02.760 --> 01:30:05.960 have to buy? And right now, you know Rocket League 2053 01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:07.520 is on everything, it is free. 2054 01:30:07.880 --> 01:30:11.720 It is the game you have to buy. Negative. 2055 01:30:11.880 --> 01:30:16.920 Yeah, yeah, it's I can't say I enjoyed any part 2056 01:30:16.920 --> 01:30:19.000 of this, Like so many things should be like oh, 2057 01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:21.199 it's got many games in between Round and it's First 2058 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:24.000 Party Nintendo and it's Arcade Basketball, all this stuff that 2059 01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:27.039 sounds like it should be for me and the boy. 2060 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:29.399 It's it's not fun to play, It. 2061 01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:34.479 Has no personality. It just feels like a missed opportunity too. 2062 01:30:34.640 --> 01:30:36.760 Or maybe it just should never have been an opportunity. 2063 01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:39.279 Yeah, maybe they just wanted to like a game that 2064 01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:41.520 fully showed off the like you know, look, look you 2065 01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.279 can use your joy cons like mice or weird you know, 2066 01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:47.079 wheelchair stuff or whatever, and like, okay, then put it 2067 01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:49.039 as a tech demo. Put it in Nintendo Switch Tour 2068 01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:51.840 or something as a mini game, like, don't put this 2069 01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:54.640 as a retail release, and then if you do, hey, 2070 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:55.960 maybe make it so you can party up with your 2071 01:30:55.960 --> 01:30:57.720 friends and just like play games against people. 2072 01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:01.920 It's a it's a non starter. Not being able to 2073 01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:03.880 play with your friends is like, what the what have 2074 01:31:03.960 --> 01:31:04.359 you made? 2075 01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:07.239 And maybe there is a way, maybe we'll get some EMAI. 2076 01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:09.359 Oh you actually have to do this. It's like, okay, well, 2077 01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:11.319 we had three people who spent their entire lives playing 2078 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:14.079 video games, most of that time professionally, and we are 2079 01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:17.039 on stream desperately trying to figure out how to play 2080 01:31:17.039 --> 01:31:19.000 a game on the same team, and we were not 2081 01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:20.680 able to figure it out. And no one in the 2082 01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:21.760 chat was like this is how it? 2083 01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:23.399 Like, we asked the chat at one point, are there 2084 01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:25.359 three people in the chat that want to play? No 2085 01:31:25.399 --> 01:31:27.199 one had the game, No one's playing it. It's a 2086 01:31:27.199 --> 01:31:29.039 game that is online. 2087 01:31:29.159 --> 01:31:31.479 But I am buying this nice How much is it? 2088 01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:32.159 I'm just curious. 2089 01:31:32.199 --> 01:31:33.119 I think it's like twenty bucks. 2090 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:35.840 It's not expensive, but it's like I think this is 2091 01:31:35.880 --> 01:31:37.000 going to be a debt on the vine. 2092 01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:40.479 Thing like this, like Tower Defense was seventeen dollars and 2093 01:31:40.520 --> 01:31:41.680 that's like, actually good. 2094 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:43.479 You know, there's much better stuff you could get for 2095 01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:45.159 twenty dollars. Yeah. 2096 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:46.920 Yeah, Like at first, I was like, oh, is this 2097 01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:49.199 going to be the arms of the switch To Like 2098 01:31:49.199 --> 01:31:50.600 I think Bank mentioned that too. It's like, oh, is 2099 01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:53.039 this the arms like kind of the gimmick emotion Joycoon 2100 01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.359 game of the switch To launch window, And it's like, no, 2101 01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:59.560 I'm not an arms defender. I don't like arms. There's 2102 01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:01.439 more going on arms than there is. 2103 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:04.800 Yeah, it's like arms, I don't like knees. 2104 01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:06.640 Arms sucks the team up. Mary. 2105 01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:08.479 Just like shins, by any chance. 2106 01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:13.840 I love them? 2107 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:16.600 Yeah, sorry you fuckinger. 2108 01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:19.359 My favorite part of the body shins. 2109 01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:24.439 Yeah, just just I see you stroking a shin here 2110 01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:28.479 and there. But Dan, why are you replaying Breath of 2111 01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:29.960 the Wild? Aside from the fact that it's the best 2112 01:32:29.960 --> 01:32:30.560 game ever made? 2113 01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.720 It is the best game ever made? And you know, 2114 01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:34.159 I was. 2115 01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:36.840 They had the switch to edition that came out, and 2116 01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:39.439 it was like, well, I love time to kind of 2117 01:32:39.479 --> 01:32:41.439 really play it, like you know, I at Switch two's launch, 2118 01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:42.720 I was like, yeah, that does run a lot better, 2119 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:44.720 but I wanted to actually like go back to it 2120 01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:47.520 because I never went back to it past the first time, 2121 01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:49.760 and then even after a few years, like, well, here's 2122 01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:51.119 the Kingdom's coming up, I'm not going to play it 2123 01:32:51.119 --> 01:32:52.880 so close to that. And now they're on the other 2124 01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:54.680 side of all that, and there is this new update, 2125 01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:56.479 and there was like a little bit of a gap between, 2126 01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:58.840 you know, I finished like Expedition and Destranding and Donkey 2127 01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:00.920 Kong and stuff. It's like, I think I got a 2128 01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:02.479 couple of weeks here, let's go back in and I'm 2129 01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:04.039 not gonna try one hundred percent or anything. 2130 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:06.760 And so I've been playing it. I've got two of 2131 01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:07.399 the Divine Beasts. 2132 01:33:07.439 --> 01:33:09.600 Now, I'm you know, a good chunk of the way 2133 01:33:09.640 --> 01:33:11.840 and I'll tellim about halfway through the game now, And 2134 01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:14.479 goddamn if it isn't a lot better to go back 2135 01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.159 to than I expected, because in my mind, it's like 2136 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:20.279 I didn't think it would be like obviously you can't 2137 01:33:20.319 --> 01:33:23.039 replicate the first time of like not knowing like, oh, 2138 01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:25.319 can they pull off the open world Skyrimselda whatever? 2139 01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:27.960 You know, what's that dragon in the sky? Yeah, yeah, 2140 01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:28.479 like the. 2141 01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:31.079 Moments, You'll never be able to replicate those, And so 2142 01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:32.560 I thought I was gonna be like all right, I'm 2143 01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:34.039 just gonna go back and be like, yep, I remember this, Yep, 2144 01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:37.079 I remember this, But it's a big high rule and 2145 01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:39.560 there's a lot of little things and a little vignettes 2146 01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:41.399 and characters and moments and stuff that like, of course 2147 01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:43.960 remember yeah, the one hundred and twenty shrines, the dragon moment, 2148 01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.840 the four Divine Beasts, the Lost Wood stuff, those big 2149 01:33:46.840 --> 01:33:48.479 things I definitely remember, but there are a lot of 2150 01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:51.159 like just little elements of that game and just little 2151 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:53.680 joys to be found in every corner of it that 2152 01:33:53.880 --> 01:33:56.359 I'm like, oh, this is actually way better to return 2153 01:33:56.399 --> 01:34:00.279 to than I expected. And it does look much much better, 2154 01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:03.439 Like it's fantastic, like the new frame rate, some new 2155 01:34:03.479 --> 01:34:05.399 visual details and stuff like water looks a lot better, 2156 01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:08.479 things like that, And this playing of it is what 2157 01:34:08.560 --> 01:34:10.439 cemented for me that I do think I prefer this 2158 01:34:10.479 --> 01:34:13.199 over Tiers the Kingdom because there were times when I 2159 01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:14.720 was playing Tears the Kingdom where I was like, I 2160 01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:17.279 don't know why, you know, like, you know, it's not 2161 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.000 going to have the surprise factor Breath the Whild, but 2162 01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:20.680 if somebody was going in for the first time, now, 2163 01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:23.000 Tiers the Kingdom is everything. Breath the Wild was and more. 2164 01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:25.000 That's what I thought when I was playing Tears the Kingdom. 2165 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:27.920 Now that I've gone back to Breath the Wild, I 2166 01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:31.239 am appreciating that. Like Tiers the Kingdom lets you do 2167 01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:33.239 a lot of stuff, and a lot of it's really cool, 2168 01:34:33.239 --> 01:34:35.039 like being able to like build all that stuff, and 2169 01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:38.319 you know people make crazy contraptions like and the breadth 2170 01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:40.039 of like you know, the whole caverns and the sky. 2171 01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:41.600 It's bigger and more. 2172 01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:44.399 And I do think the core abilities are more interesting 2173 01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:47.880 in Tiers the Kingdom, but playing Breath of the Wild, 2174 01:34:47.960 --> 01:34:51.159 it is just kind of a more focused experience here. 2175 01:34:51.239 --> 01:34:53.520 Isn't always better, isn't it? You know, like I don't 2176 01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:56.319 really like being underground in Tiers of the Kingdom. I 2177 01:34:56.319 --> 01:34:57.560 don't want to go down there. 2178 01:34:57.920 --> 01:34:59.640 Yeah, And the amount of times like Okay, I'm fusing 2179 01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:01.199 this stuff together, or I have to like, you know, 2180 01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:03.560 adjust this rocket to be pointing this way for this 2181 01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:05.560 thing I gotta attach to this wheel, and like there's 2182 01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:08.279 just a lot of stopping and scrolling through a big 2183 01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:10.279 list of items to attach the right thing to the 2184 01:35:10.359 --> 01:35:11.920 right thing, And like it's cool. 2185 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.399 I think all that stuff is awesome. And Tiers of 2186 01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:15.000 the Kingdom is one of the best games of all time. 2187 01:35:15.560 --> 01:35:17.479 But being able to play Breath the Wild now and 2188 01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:19.720 just be like, I'm kind of just like I see 2189 01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:21.479 that tower on the distance, I'm gonna go climb it. 2190 01:35:21.479 --> 01:35:22.720 And I get on top of that, I'm like, look 2191 01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:23.399 at all these shrines. 2192 01:35:23.399 --> 01:35:23.840 Oh, what's that. 2193 01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:26.680 I'm gonna go over there, and it's it's just more focused. 2194 01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:28.680 I'm not spending a lot of time in menus, I'm 2195 01:35:28.680 --> 01:35:32.359 not fiddling around with rotating you know, the whatever zone 2196 01:35:32.319 --> 01:35:36.479 eye pieces and stuff like that. It's it's it's much 2197 01:35:36.520 --> 01:35:38.840 better than I expected to be to return to, so 2198 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:42.479 very very much enjoying the switch to edition. 2199 01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:45.520 I've bread the way. Yeah, I take my own path too. 2200 01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:48.479 That's such an open game that it's like I remember 2201 01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:50.079 how I went the first time, and I just kind 2202 01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:51.880 of start going off in random directions here and I 2203 01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:54.760 find myself just encountering things in a totally different order, 2204 01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.800 a whole different path, and I don't have to force it. 2205 01:35:57.039 --> 01:35:58.920 That game is just so good at just like what's that, 2206 01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:00.680 I'll go that way? What's that all got there? Oh, 2207 01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:02.159 I'm trying to get this thing or this upgrade. I'll 2208 01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:03.600 go do this for a little bit like, Yeah, it 2209 01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:05.119 feels like a different path through the game than I 2210 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:05.840 did the first time. 2211 01:36:06.319 --> 01:36:09.239 Yeah, I was wondering if by the time I finally 2212 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:11.600 go back, I would just actually prefer Breath of the Wild. 2213 01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:14.520 It just always felt more focused, and I feel like 2214 01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:18.520 it's more a focus on pure exploration survival, whereas Tears 2215 01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:20.840 of the Kingdom definitely explodes that with two more layers 2216 01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.960 to the world and the engineering aspect of it, which 2217 01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:26.680 is super cool. I agree, But yeah, I want to 2218 01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:28.399 replay it. Maybe that's like the thing I'll do after 2219 01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:29.800 Donkey Kong when I get the switch too. 2220 01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:32.920 It's really good, it's really really fun. I would recommend it. 2221 01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:36.039 I think it's also like a good reflection you saying, like, listen, 2222 01:36:36.119 --> 01:36:39.720 I don't need all the bells and whistles of Tears 2223 01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:40.199 the Kingdom. 2224 01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:43.039 And I liked the more focused. I like that word focused. 2225 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:45.800 Yeah, I just don't think you always need everything in 2226 01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:47.560 the kitchen sink and games, and that has been a 2227 01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:51.439 conversation that we've had in gaming a lot of Like recently, 2228 01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:53.239 I think there was like this controversy that you couldn't 2229 01:36:53.439 --> 01:36:56.000 swim in the new like Mafia game, and it's like, 2230 01:36:56.039 --> 01:36:57.520 why do you need it? 2231 01:36:57.520 --> 01:36:59.119 It's nice going to make it a better game? 2232 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:01.840 Is that is that important to the story or it's 2233 01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:05.159 like what's going on? And I think there's these natural 2234 01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:06.880 reactions we have where it's like you're in water but 2235 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:09.760 you can't even swim, and it's like, but focusing the 2236 01:37:09.840 --> 01:37:12.520 player into like knowing what their purpose is in the 2237 01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:18.039 space and have intentionality in the gameplay is very important. 2238 01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:21.159 And like there's a reason that Breath of the Wild 2239 01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:23.239 is the is the Goat, And I think it's because 2240 01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:25.520 it knew what it was trying to do. It didn't 2241 01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:28.039 have everything, but it didn't need it. It had exactly 2242 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:29.199 what it wanted to be. 2243 01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:31.199 The weapons break way too easily, though. 2244 01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:36.039 It's you know, I will say again, you know you 2245 01:37:36.119 --> 01:37:37.680 kind of bounce around like you know forever I said 2246 01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:39.159 Linked the Past my favorite game of all time, and 2247 01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:41.079 then it was Breath the Wild, and you know, like 2248 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:43.840 playing this again, it's like, yeah, I do think I 2249 01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:45.479 can say definitively, I think this is the best game 2250 01:37:45.479 --> 01:37:46.079 I ever made. 2251 01:37:46.279 --> 01:37:47.479 Yeah, I already play it. 2252 01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:51.880 Dan, you I'm going to do it. 2253 01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:56.239 Dan, you played a game that you don't need to 2254 01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:57.199 summon for. 2255 01:37:57.079 --> 01:37:59.720 Me because it's for me because I asked Dan to 2256 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:02.479 play this game, and if you aren't such a fucking 2257 01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:05.319 obnoxious one, something. 2258 01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:07.079 Take it over from me. Sometimes when I'm right here, 2259 01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:08.600 ready to go, and I won't have it. 2260 01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:11.199 This is my Yeah, we can put them from the 2261 01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:11.720 call Mary. 2262 01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:23.000 Anybody who says King is no King. 2263 01:38:19.720 --> 01:38:22.600 Boy no sorry, go ahead. 2264 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:25.880 Last episode, I talked about a game that I really 2265 01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:28.000 liked called Time Flies, and I heard you play it, 2266 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:29.560 so I'm really curious what you thought about it. 2267 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:32.199 I love it. I you know, I I don't know 2268 01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:34.079 how many like areas there are because like you know, 2269 01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:35.960 you start out and it's like here's the checklist for 2270 01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:38.279 this area of like the kitchen and the upstairs and stuff, 2271 01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:39.479 and I got to the next area, So I'm not 2272 01:38:39.479 --> 01:38:41.199 sure how many of those, like I hear, it's not 2273 01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:44.439 a super long game, so there's like twenty different those, but. 2274 01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:47.920 Like it is very fun where it's like okay, you 2275 01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:50.079 are in the new area and it's I'm just gonna 2276 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:50.600 fly around. 2277 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:51.760 Obviously you're not going to beat it. 2278 01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:53.800 You're not going to like do all the things on 2279 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.000 the checklist on your bucket list in one life. So 2280 01:38:56.039 --> 01:38:58.479 it's just kind of that exploratory few lives at the 2281 01:38:58.479 --> 01:38:59.960 beginning where it's like, oh, I can play the good 2282 01:39:00.079 --> 01:39:02.840 are Oh I can fly inside this lamp. Oh I 2283 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:05.760 can do this thing, I can hop on these ants 2284 01:39:05.800 --> 01:39:08.079 back and get a thing for that I record play 2285 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:10.880 like and then as you learn more and more you 2286 01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:13.199 start to piece together like, okay, so now I know 2287 01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:15.119 the things I got to do. Now what is the path? 2288 01:39:15.560 --> 01:39:18.520 What order do I do these things in? And it's 2289 01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:20.039 just one of those fun games. It's almost like a 2290 01:39:20.039 --> 01:39:22.479 warrior word type thing of just like you'll just die 2291 01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:24.359 in a funny way, or something pops up and it's 2292 01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:26.720 unexpected and you're like, oh, okay, I didn't see that coming, 2293 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:29.359 and then you know for the next time. I love 2294 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:31.319 the look of it. It's just so simple. It's you know, 2295 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:32.600 there are parts where it kind of zooms in you 2296 01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:34.439 can actually see the fly, and then there are the 2297 01:39:34.439 --> 01:39:36.960 wider ones where you're literally just controlling this black dot 2298 01:39:37.119 --> 01:39:41.439 buzzing around. It's funny, it's incredibly simple. It's a game 2299 01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:44.640 that you just play with just an analog stick. The 2300 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:47.960 idea of just having to beat these levels in one run. Basically, 2301 01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:50.239 it reminds you of like a Tony Hawk level where it's 2302 01:39:50.239 --> 01:39:51.399 like I'm gonna try to do every one of these 2303 01:39:51.399 --> 01:39:53.920 objectives in one two minute run. It's kind of like that. 2304 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:56.960 But yeah, it's got a lot of personality. It's it's 2305 01:39:57.279 --> 01:39:59.079 got a fun gimmick that I haven't really seen other 2306 01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:00.239 games use quite like the is. 2307 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:02.039 I think it's really cool. 2308 01:40:02.239 --> 01:40:03.920 Yeah, I think there's like a couple of moments where 2309 01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:05.560 you kind of laugh out loud and you go, I 2310 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:07.920 see what you're doing here. It does have some weird 2311 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:10.079 stuff where like sometimes you'll be like that was like 2312 01:40:10.159 --> 01:40:12.399 oddly perverted or like strange. 2313 01:40:12.720 --> 01:40:17.479 Have you been across any of that? I'm a foot 2314 01:40:17.479 --> 01:40:19.600 to make them laugh, And yeah, there's a. 2315 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:22.920 Couple of weird ones where like, uh, especially in the 2316 01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:26.199 later levels, there's like, I think one I'm not I 2317 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:29.520 don't think it's a big spoiler where you like are 2318 01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:34.079 essentially going into someone's butt and a flower grows out 2319 01:40:34.119 --> 01:40:37.319 of the butt and I was like who made this puzzle? 2320 01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:41.039 Because this is so weird and like strange. But I 2321 01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:43.880 didn't like it never, it never like bothered me too much, 2322 01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.319 but I was always like, what the heck making these 2323 01:40:46.319 --> 01:40:49.600 little butt flowers and farts and stuff like that? It's 2324 01:40:49.600 --> 01:40:50.920 got some cheeky moments to it. 2325 01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:55.920 Hemorrhoids. But maybe you should host and then I'll come 2326 01:40:55.920 --> 01:41:01.760 in with those really funny bits. You actually going keep going, no. 2327 01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:03.560 Good stuff though, I definitely enjoy it. 2328 01:41:03.640 --> 01:41:07.000 I'm glad. 2329 01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:13.000 Oh yeah, Mike, Yeah yeah, I see what you're doing. 2330 01:41:13.319 --> 01:41:17.600 Mary go yeah, Mary, what's a make room all about? It? 2331 01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:19.439 Better be sick after this. 2332 01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:20.720 I just like telling you what to do. 2333 01:41:22.239 --> 01:41:28.159 Make Room is a other cozy game, uh djure where 2334 01:41:28.319 --> 01:41:32.239 it's like it's I think it's also very unpacking. It 2335 01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:35.279 might be even more unpacking where you are constructing rooms 2336 01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:36.920 based on what people want. So you'll go to a 2337 01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:38.399 town and this person will be like, I would like 2338 01:41:38.399 --> 01:41:42.000 a new gaming room. My desk is too small, I 2339 01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:45.359 want to monitors on my setup, and I want like 2340 01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:47.039 a nicer gaming chair. And so you go through the 2341 01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:49.439 repertoire of like the items and you design a space 2342 01:41:49.439 --> 01:41:52.239 for them. So it's a design it's a space design game. 2343 01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:56.199 Other rooms I do like, there's different environments. So you 2344 01:41:56.239 --> 01:42:01.840 can make a tiny what are those called, like like. 2345 01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:03.039 Like those like camping. 2346 01:42:04.439 --> 01:42:07.640 Time fans trailer, Yeah, like a tiny trailer, and so 2347 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:10.199 you have to make a space in this tiny trailer 2348 01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:15.439 and that's fine for me. It's like very calming. I 2349 01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:17.760 think it's a little limited. There's really not that many items. 2350 01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:19.399 For example, in the gaming room, there was like three 2351 01:42:19.439 --> 01:42:23.119 different types of monitors, and I understand, like those are assets, 2352 01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:25.279 but it's just like, my gaming room is going to 2353 01:42:25.319 --> 01:42:28.279 look extremely similar to your gaming room because there's just 2354 01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:31.000 not enough variety. The other thing that bothered me about 2355 01:42:31.039 --> 01:42:34.760 it is that it's visual based. There's no text, and 2356 01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:38.039 this game can correct me if I'm wrong, but I 2357 01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:41.239 sometimes it would be like we need an easel, and 2358 01:42:41.279 --> 01:42:43.840 I would be like, okay, I'm making an art room, right, 2359 01:42:44.199 --> 01:42:46.560 find the easel, and I'm going through all the categories 2360 01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:47.920 and I'm like, where would the easel be? 2361 01:42:48.199 --> 01:42:48.800 You know what I mean? 2362 01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:51.560 Like where, well, category is easel in? So I'm like 2363 01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:53.920 going through all these damn categories and then once you 2364 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:57.600 go into the category, it's all visual again. So I 2365 01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:01.079 don't unless you know exactly what they're art style interpretation 2366 01:43:01.159 --> 01:43:02.720 of an easel is you might just be clicking on 2367 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:06.439 things randomly hoping that you're getting the easel. I accidentally 2368 01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:11.960 clicked on like a TV scrud dildo and it was 2369 01:43:12.039 --> 01:43:16.039 not an easel and now I know it's true. 2370 01:43:16.439 --> 01:43:19.760 There's a learning game education and. 2371 01:43:20.079 --> 01:43:22.800 Uh, I think it's cozy and cute, but I think 2372 01:43:22.800 --> 01:43:26.880 it's very limited, and I don't think it's probably for 2373 01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:28.680 someone who is looking for a more. 2374 01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:31.039 Robust experience. 2375 01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:33.039 I think there's other games that have have like more 2376 01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:36.600 dynamic experiences of building a house and fixing it. It is. 2377 01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:40.439 It is like limited in its capacity, but it. 2378 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:43.520 Has a nice space where you could be like, oh, 2379 01:43:43.560 --> 01:43:45.279 I want it to be raining outside and then you're 2380 01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:47.520 making like a cozy gaming room while it's raining. I 2381 01:43:47.520 --> 01:43:50.039 mean that'll put me right to sleep. So like definitely 2382 01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:52.119 has cozy vibes and I think it's cool with building, 2383 01:43:52.119 --> 01:43:53.800 but it's just felt a little limited for me. 2384 01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:57.520 Try that out. Uh, Do I see correctly that you're 2385 01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:00.920 making a cat paradise at some point, like a cat house, 2386 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:01.840 like a house for cats. 2387 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:04.079 I haven't gotten there yet, but yes, it has ones 2388 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:07.000 where like some of the requests are like I want 2389 01:44:07.199 --> 01:44:10.640 a room for my dog, yes, and I wanted to 2390 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:12.479 have all the bells and whistles I wanted to have 2391 01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:14.359 like this, and there are cat posts. There are like 2392 01:44:14.399 --> 01:44:16.960 lots of things for your pets. And then there's also 2393 01:44:17.039 --> 01:44:19.680 free play. So in addition to the request area that's 2394 01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:21.439 like the game I would say, where it's like do 2395 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:25.640 my requests. You can also build a room from scratch 2396 01:44:25.760 --> 01:44:28.000 of your choosing and that's really fun and you can 2397 01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:30.720 basically just make the room of your dreams. And for me, 2398 01:44:31.439 --> 01:44:36.800 I made a camper van that had a tiny bed, 2399 01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:39.239 had a fireplace in the camper van. I assume that 2400 01:44:39.239 --> 01:44:41.079 wouldn't actually work, but it's my fucking room and you 2401 01:44:41.119 --> 01:44:43.119 guys can't tell me what to do. And it had 2402 01:44:43.159 --> 01:44:46.119 like a desk with my gaming setup, and so I 2403 01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:48.359 was like I could stream, I could sleep, I would 2404 01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:50.840 cook my food on the fire and I had like 2405 01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:53.439 a whole section for semoon and like all of his 2406 01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:55.439 little items to make sure that like my dog was 2407 01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:57.319 happy in my campra van. This is just like, you know, 2408 01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:00.239 an imaginary space that I got to invent that I 2409 01:45:00.239 --> 01:45:01.239 thought was very sweet. 2410 01:45:01.960 --> 01:45:04.840 Damn, what would your dream room consist of? Comprise? 2411 01:45:05.319 --> 01:45:07.479 Look like you've been in it? I think? 2412 01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:09.439 Is this this? 2413 01:45:11.600 --> 01:45:14.760 This is the office I'm talking about, the giant the 2414 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:20.439 bean Bag Arcade retro museum, Like yeah, that's that's hundred You've. 2415 01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:22.039 Built your perfect space. 2416 01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:24.439 And it's just a giant couch and a giant TV. 2417 01:45:25.239 --> 01:45:27.640 Yeah, with every game I've ever played and ever will 2418 01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:30.800 play like it's I think I got that. I think mine. 2419 01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:33.920 I'd have a bed and then around the bed on 2420 01:45:33.960 --> 01:45:36.159 the floor would be really powerful solar lights. 2421 01:45:41.520 --> 01:45:43.680 The blind me as I tried. 2422 01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:46.279 Yeah, I'm gonna try it out. 2423 01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:48.920 I want a clapper so that when I clap, it 2424 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:52.279 immediately plays the Family Guy intro music. 2425 01:45:52.439 --> 01:46:00.119 The Pelvic Thrust, All Night Perfect, Jesus Mary eight, thing 2426 01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:02.439 else about makeroom I. I want to try that out, 2427 01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:04.760 because that's like all these sound like. I feel like 2428 01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:07.359 I have a good spate of playing games for the week. 2429 01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:10.840 I've been playing a lot of like chill games recently, 2430 01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:12.840 and I think it's just because I'm in the throes 2431 01:46:12.880 --> 01:46:15.520 of a very stressful time at work, and so like 2432 01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:17.359 when I get off of work, I don't always have 2433 01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:20.720 the mental capacity to play a complicated game that will 2434 01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:23.399 like also stress me out. I've been stressed enough, so 2435 01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:26.960 play a game where I can like watch Alien Earth 2436 01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:31.600 on TV and like casually you know, have people change 2437 01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:34.119 spots on a bus or make a little cozy room 2438 01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:36.760 is cathartic. It's just like nice for me to have, 2439 01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:41.479 and I still play more intense games on days that 2440 01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:43.000 I can do it. But yeah, I've been on a 2441 01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.720 bit of a cozy game kick, so that one, time Flies, 2442 01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:47.119 I think is my favorite. Though, Like if you were 2443 01:46:47.119 --> 01:46:48.640 asking me, like of all these like I would be 2444 01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:51.439 like time Flies is so cool, Like it's such a neat, 2445 01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:52.399 little funky game. 2446 01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:57.199 But I think is this seat taken is a delight 2447 01:46:57.399 --> 01:46:58.680 I've I've enjoyed. 2448 01:46:58.319 --> 01:47:01.079 That experience this week after I'm recording here. 2449 01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:03.000 Yeah, that's cute kind of. 2450 01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:05.199 I liked Pickman four. 2451 01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:10.960 That much. You could pick jes that you guys. 2452 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:12.960 Remember when I had too much of a dosage of 2453 01:47:13.119 --> 01:47:17.159 uh THC and a gummy and I was like, I'm 2454 01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:19.960 playing Pickman four for six hours. No one fucking talked 2455 01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:24.239 to me, and I that game saved my life. I 2456 01:47:24.279 --> 01:47:27.239 thought I was going to die. I like, I had 2457 01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:30.199 no idea, I had like the wrong dosage. I was 2458 01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:32.359 a mess and Pickman four was the only thing that 2459 01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:34.680 I could I could do to keep my brain from melting. 2460 01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:37.680 That I feel like everyone who played Pickman four adores it, 2461 01:47:37.800 --> 01:47:40.119 but I still feel the need to any time I 2462 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:42.119 think about it, like yell about how fucking good. It 2463 01:47:42.159 --> 01:47:44.079 is because if you have not played Pickman four good, 2464 01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:46.079 it is unbelievably good. 2465 01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:49.239 All Pickmans are good. Pickman four is incredible. 2466 01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:51.920 Could it could have been Game of the Year, could have. 2467 01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:54.439 Been well, I got it over that. My tears, I 2468 01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:54.960 think tears. 2469 01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:56.079 Oh, here's the Kingdom. 2470 01:47:56.239 --> 01:48:00.720 Yeah, Mike was Mike was like gunning against it. 2471 01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.000 Because I pushed for No. 2472 01:48:02.279 --> 01:48:05.000 You did a late night push even though all the 2473 01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:08.920 evidence up to it. That's why I'm like, I so 2474 01:48:09.079 --> 01:48:10.960 resent both of you from making me the adult in 2475 01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:12.279 the room in most animations. 2476 01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:13.439 I'm gonna d right now. 2477 01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:18.640 Yeah, which has in it? Yeah? 2478 01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:21.840 The No MIC's Club is going to be poppin' after that. 2479 01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:24.720 I'm gonna make nobody else button me channel where I 2480 01:48:24.720 --> 01:48:25.760 could just talk to myself. 2481 01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:28.039 You, it's just called the Angry Dome. 2482 01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:30.319 What if I did that? What if I wrote it 2483 01:48:30.359 --> 01:48:32.680 for a year and then it. 2484 01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:35.039 Is you and a bunch of chaddbts Joe do you? 2485 01:48:36.319 --> 01:48:40.239 Yeah, I'm all telling you how right and handsome you are. 2486 01:48:40.600 --> 01:48:42.920 That's right, Mike, Yeah, good job, I am right. 2487 01:48:43.800 --> 01:48:45.840 That's the time. Mary take us into emails. 2488 01:48:46.680 --> 01:48:48.800 You guys want to read some emails? 2489 01:48:49.159 --> 01:48:54.319 Yeah? Sure, Mary, do you want to lead us into emails? 2490 01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:58.079 No, you're the host and I trust you and love you. 2491 01:48:58.079 --> 01:49:00.239 You do it. You're the best host with the. 2492 01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:03.359 Most That's what I thought. 2493 01:49:05.119 --> 01:49:07.600 Fuck with me. H hey, right, we're back. 2494 01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:09.520 As usually, you can write a fire skit cast at 2495 01:49:09.520 --> 01:49:12.479 gmail dot com. That's fireskiit cast at gmail dot com 2496 01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:15.000 for questions comments, Well, listen to all of them will 2497 01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:17.199 be great. I'm such a bubbly guy. 2498 01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:23.199 Oh my god, man, I'm a bubbly guy. Ah, I'm 2499 01:49:23.239 --> 01:49:24.199 a bubbly guy. 2500 01:49:25.159 --> 01:49:26.640 H We've got to I got to back up one 2501 01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:29.479 in case these don't go super long, but I got 2502 01:49:29.520 --> 01:49:31.680 to you right now. Uh, Mary, do you want to 2503 01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:33.199 read this first one? From Nathan? 2504 01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:34.239 Sure? 2505 01:49:35.760 --> 01:49:35.960 Hey? 2506 01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:36.720 Fire Escape. 2507 01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:39.600 Just listened through Dan's book after Mary mentioned it and 2508 01:49:39.640 --> 01:49:40.560 thought it was great. 2509 01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:41.319 Weird question. 2510 01:49:41.439 --> 01:49:44.479 At the end of the book, you acknowledged Justin McElroy 2511 01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:48.199 for helping you proofread the book before publishing? Is this 2512 01:49:48.479 --> 01:49:51.760 justin of my brother? My brother and me? I listened 2513 01:49:51.800 --> 01:49:54.479 to that show as well, and it was just a 2514 01:49:54.520 --> 01:50:00.800 weird world colliding moment. Uh Dan, is it is it him? 2515 01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:02.079 Yeah? 2516 01:50:01.840 --> 01:50:03.720 Yeah? Just Macroy? Yeah? Yeah, perfect? 2517 01:50:04.319 --> 01:50:07.239 Dan. I know you specifically said you don't listen to 2518 01:50:07.319 --> 01:50:09.840 video game podcasts in your free time. So my question 2519 01:50:09.960 --> 01:50:12.359 for all of you is what podcasts do you listen 2520 01:50:12.359 --> 01:50:16.720 to you outside of video games? Thanks Nathan, that's so 2521 01:50:17.520 --> 01:50:21.840 nice that he listened to that and that you you 2522 01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:22.199 did that. 2523 01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:22.560 Let's go. 2524 01:50:22.760 --> 01:50:25.439 Yeah, just Maclroy's awesome. I have not caught up with 2525 01:50:25.520 --> 01:50:28.800 him in quite a while, but yeah, I mean every 2526 01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:30.399 time a doct him was great. He used to be 2527 01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:31.800 a joystick, used to be like games. 2528 01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:33.199 Well, I guess you said he's on the he's on 2529 01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:35.880 the best sies right, like with Chris and yeah, okay, 2530 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:37.520 so he's still doing it. But he used to be 2531 01:50:37.600 --> 01:50:39.439 like Joystick and everything, and you used to being like 2532 01:50:39.479 --> 01:50:42.000 early bombcasts and all that stuff. What are you laughing at, Mike? 2533 01:50:42.199 --> 01:50:44.079 It's two of them are on it. It's like another 2534 01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:49.680 mac justining and Griffin and Russ fresh Stick and Chris 2535 01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:50.520 plant If Memories. 2536 01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:52.399 Oh okay, I listen to it all the time. 2537 01:50:52.439 --> 01:50:52.920 I totally know. 2538 01:50:54.119 --> 01:50:56.560 No, all the macroys have always been awesome to me 2539 01:50:56.600 --> 01:50:57.920 and always a joy to see them. 2540 01:50:58.039 --> 01:50:59.840 They're very good at what they do too, and I 2541 01:50:59.880 --> 01:51:02.199 think they just have a dynamic that can't be beat 2542 01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:05.119 because of who they are and their connection to each other. 2543 01:51:05.239 --> 01:51:08.399 So sometimes I think there's like similarities. It's like that 2544 01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:12.000 podcast is more about their dynamic than whatever it is 2545 01:51:12.039 --> 01:51:14.239 they talk about. That is just who they are, and 2546 01:51:14.279 --> 01:51:15.960 I think that is what makes you so familiar. That's 2547 01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:18.880 so special. That's right. It's like the one that it 2548 01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:22.079 can't be. You can't develop a formula for it, you 2549 01:51:22.119 --> 01:51:23.359 can't mimic it. 2550 01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.199 What I've always thought with podcasts, you know, especially when 2551 01:51:26.199 --> 01:51:28.479 I was like at companies like W DOE where it's like, oh, 2552 01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:30.800 make a you know, put these people together and they 2553 01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:33.520 both these people like anime, these two wrestlers, It's like, well, 2554 01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:35.119 do they know each other? Are they friends? Do they 2555 01:51:35.119 --> 01:51:35.760 have a report? 2556 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:38.319 Because like, yeah, okay, these two guys can like anime 2557 01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:41.039 or like video games, but like yeah, at one point 2558 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:43.399 they wanted me to host a video game podcast with 2559 01:51:43.520 --> 01:51:46.720 Ronda Rousi, and I was like, oh, just because we 2560 01:51:46.720 --> 01:51:50.239 would not like video games, which also I don't know, 2561 01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:53.520 it would be a very different history with video games, 2562 01:51:53.520 --> 01:51:55.199 like okay, wow, she said in a couple of interviews, 2563 01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:59.159 she likes Pokemon. Yeah, let's make a video game podcast anyway, Yes, 2564 01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:01.399 the rapport that is the most important part, and that's 2565 01:52:01.439 --> 01:52:04.560 why us three, why we work, That is why Giant 2566 01:52:04.600 --> 01:52:07.439 Bomb works is because there's friends and rapport and history 2567 01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:10.479 and things like that. You can't just like shove disparate 2568 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:14.159 people and personalities together despite them on paper having things 2569 01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:17.439 in common and expect a good show. So to answer 2570 01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:19.920 the question, what do you listen to outside video games? 2571 01:52:20.159 --> 01:52:23.039 The one podcast I really listen to is called Deadlock, 2572 01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:26.359 and it is a wrestling thing where they watch old 2573 01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:29.399 wrestling shows and kind of talk about it very comedically. 2574 01:52:29.479 --> 01:52:32.279 It's three guys that go way back, and it's just 2575 01:52:32.720 --> 01:52:34.239 one of those things where we listen to an episode 2576 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:36.600 now it's just all there's so many en jokes and 2577 01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:38.039 things like that, and you have to listen to like 2578 01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:39.520 a lot of it to really kind of get caught up. 2579 01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:40.840 But then you really feel like you're kind of part 2580 01:52:40.840 --> 01:52:44.800 of that club and everything. But yeah, Deadlock is the podcast. 2581 01:52:44.399 --> 01:52:44.800 I listened to. 2582 01:52:46.600 --> 01:52:48.680 I listen back in the day, I was listening to 2583 01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:51.960 like narrative podcasts, more fictional. Welcome to Night Vow was 2584 01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:56.119 a really cool format. It was like a weird not 2585 01:52:56.439 --> 01:53:01.159 X Files Twilight Zone town where each episode will be 2586 01:53:01.159 --> 01:53:03.199 about a new person from the town and weird shit 2587 01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:05.079 would be going on. That was a great show. If 2588 01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:07.279 you haven't checked it out, go back. I don't know 2589 01:53:07.319 --> 01:53:09.079 if it's still running. It might be done by now, 2590 01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:10.880 but I listened to like two seasons worth of it 2591 01:53:10.920 --> 01:53:14.039 and I liked it quite a bit. Also, I will 2592 01:53:14.079 --> 01:53:16.479 say most of my podcast these days are wine related 2593 01:53:16.520 --> 01:53:20.000 for studying or like, I think that's sweet. 2594 01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:22.680 Tell me your favorite wine podcast. 2595 01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:23.800 That's so funny. 2596 01:53:25.399 --> 01:53:28.560 I just think it's interesting. I find it fascinating. 2597 01:53:28.560 --> 01:53:31.079 We always get into these like fucking wine. 2598 01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:35.159 You know parts of this podcast, but ultimately like a 2599 01:53:35.279 --> 01:53:39.199 podcast about wine, like so wild to me that you 2600 01:53:39.239 --> 01:53:40.560 can talk about wine that much. 2601 01:53:40.680 --> 01:53:43.800 Yeah, you can talk about a specific grape for a while. 2602 01:53:44.039 --> 01:53:45.119 I now guilds. 2603 01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:49.840 Specifically purple grapes. Tell me about purple grapes. You're you're going. 2604 01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:53.399 Down the rabbit hole. I'm talking about podcasts. You're doing 2605 01:53:53.439 --> 01:53:53.840 it now. 2606 01:53:56.960 --> 01:53:58.359 I said, you can talk for a while about a grape, 2607 01:53:58.399 --> 01:53:59.479 tell me about purple grapes. 2608 01:53:59.600 --> 01:54:01.159 I will tell about purple grapes in a second. But 2609 01:54:01.239 --> 01:54:03.760 into the Glass by a GUILDSOM. GUILDSOM is the like 2610 01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:07.239 study resource and meet up resource and just general really 2611 01:54:07.279 --> 01:54:10.439 good resource to have it's a subscription service where people 2612 01:54:10.479 --> 01:54:14.079 who are studying to go through their Somier certification can 2613 01:54:14.279 --> 01:54:18.640 go to a like study hall kind of lecture on 2614 01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:21.039 this specific region. But they can also go to meetups 2615 01:54:21.039 --> 01:54:24.279 with other Sombiers in Texas or the will Aammet Valley, 2616 01:54:24.279 --> 01:54:27.239 et cetera. So it's a really good thing to have 2617 01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:29.800 in your back pocket for sure. And then Chris Tanji, 2618 01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.199 he's a master Somilee, hosts the podcast. So sometimes it'll 2619 01:54:33.199 --> 01:54:35.640 be about blind tasting specific wines. Other times it'll be 2620 01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:39.119 about different wine makers come on or experts on like 2621 01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:42.760 Mount Etta, it's in Sicily. Benjamin Spencer came on in 2622 01:54:42.760 --> 01:54:44.119 the most recent one, so it was really cool to 2623 01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:46.680 hear about how that region has evolved over the last 2624 01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:52.920 several millennia. I also there's also I'll drink to that. 2625 01:54:53.039 --> 01:54:55.399 It's basically that's the more deep dive, like people in 2626 01:54:55.479 --> 01:54:59.880 the wine industry will come on and talk to the 2627 01:55:00.039 --> 01:55:02.600 host and uh, those are but yeah, I listened to 2628 01:55:02.600 --> 01:55:06.000 those fairly often. But also like in the world of 2629 01:55:06.119 --> 01:55:08.680 video games, I don't listen to many. 2630 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.279 Well, the question is specifically not video. 2631 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.479 Games, oh right, right, right, specifically, do not. 2632 01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:18.840 Tell me video game ones. Yeah, what's about fake namee podcast? 2633 01:55:18.920 --> 01:55:23.319 It would be like, uh, you know, like I'll drink 2634 01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:26.039 to that seems like such a generic maybe like fake 2635 01:55:26.319 --> 01:55:29.399 made podcast about drinking wine. 2636 01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:31.560 Five o'clock somewhere. 2637 01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:33.760 Whine about it. 2638 01:55:33.880 --> 01:55:39.239 That's a real Yeah, it probably is one. I also, 2639 01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:41.520 you know what, I really I guess I don't listen 2640 01:55:41.560 --> 01:55:44.319 to full episodes, but I have realized how much I've 2641 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:49.960 destroyed my YouTube algorithm with x actor on why movie, like, 2642 01:55:50.039 --> 01:55:54.239 I'll get YouTube shorts like it's uh. James well Bakesale 2643 01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:59.800 is a YouTube channel that pulls clips from like What's 2644 01:55:59.840 --> 01:56:02.119 his Eli Roth's podcast where he has people come out 2645 01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:04.399 and talk about horror movies. But it'll be like Bill 2646 01:56:04.479 --> 01:56:06.840 Hayter on there will be blood and Bill Hater's like 2647 01:56:06.840 --> 01:56:08.680 one of the biggest film buffs ever, so he'll be 2648 01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:11.800 talking about what makes this movie like genuinely great. I 2649 01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:13.920 listen to a lot of those. I like listening to 2650 01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:17.079 people talk about movies in a way I don't enjoy 2651 01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:19.680 it with video games, just because I'm not inundated with 2652 01:56:19.720 --> 01:56:22.199 movies all day at work, So I think that's kind 2653 01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:24.640 of a nice break from it, and I enjoy hearing 2654 01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:27.319 people talk about movies in a really intelligent but still 2655 01:56:29.119 --> 01:56:33.159 magnetic contagious way, because I think that helps when we 2656 01:56:33.159 --> 01:56:35.880 talk about it helps inform how I talk about video 2657 01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:39.520 games or whine or stuff I love. But yeah, I 2658 01:56:39.560 --> 01:56:41.520 would say I think it's James Weyl bakes out. It's 2659 01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:44.119 just clips like you can listen to, like you can 2660 01:56:44.199 --> 01:56:46.479 hear random shit like, oh, Bill Burr talking about why 2661 01:56:47.359 --> 01:56:50.680 fucking succession was great or something like that. I just 2662 01:56:50.720 --> 01:56:52.039 pulled both of those out of my ass. I don't 2663 01:56:52.039 --> 01:56:54.399 know if that's an actual one, but that's probably it. 2664 01:56:54.439 --> 01:57:00.079 I don't listen to many podcasts same what about you. 2665 01:57:01.479 --> 01:57:07.680 I was just thinking of other fake wine podcast names. Uh, 2666 01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:09.039 vine time. 2667 01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:10.920 That's probably one. 2668 01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:12.760 It's time to talk about vine. 2669 01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:17.520 Oh god, I know, wind me about Watch Me Caberne. 2670 01:57:18.199 --> 01:57:24.079 Oh I love it. That's gross. That makes me sick. Yeah, 2671 01:57:24.439 --> 01:57:27.920 watch me Caberne is vile? 2672 01:57:28.199 --> 01:57:30.680 Come on, Mike, Yeah, beat that? 2673 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.039 Yeah. 2674 01:57:33.119 --> 01:57:38.039 Yea. Yolo but nebbi y o l o yebbi yolo 2675 01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:41.319 nebbe yolo. Nebby Yola is a grape. Famous grape from 2676 01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:44.199 Pemon in Italy, Okay. It's made some make some of 2677 01:57:44.199 --> 01:57:50.000 the best wines in the world. Specific Yeah, there's a 2678 01:57:52.159 --> 01:57:54.760 I think actually might be one I'm looking. I'm looking 2679 01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:56.920 at now guild some podcasts wine for normal people, wine, 2680 01:57:56.920 --> 01:57:57.439 one on one. 2681 01:57:58.000 --> 01:57:59.840 I've had to name a lot of shows. I'll drink that. 2682 01:58:01.159 --> 01:58:05.079 Dalton Lovey, Dalton Wine Simple. No, that's a e book 2683 01:58:05.840 --> 01:58:13.760 Wine Enthusiasts podcast. That's get Some. Oh is really good. 2684 01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:16.479 It's good. That's good. Got some? 2685 01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:23.720 Yeah, you know great, chio nice, nice. 2686 01:58:25.479 --> 01:58:27.840 Upset a comedy wine show. 2687 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:36.479 So ra ha ha ha ha. Okay, how about this? 2688 01:58:36.479 --> 01:58:37.920 How about the Merlew Down. 2689 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:42.199 Oh? I like that. That's good. That makes goense. 2690 01:58:42.920 --> 01:58:44.079 Mm hmm, it's good. 2691 01:58:44.279 --> 01:58:45.880 I like it quite a bit. I gotta send all 2692 01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:49.399 these to my sure, to the colleagues. Yeah, perfect, I 2693 01:58:49.439 --> 01:58:51.800 have your permission, you sign them over, Okay, thank you. 2694 01:58:51.800 --> 01:58:54.399 We can use them. Sweet, I'm not gonna be using it. 2695 01:58:55.119 --> 01:58:57.079 You never know. 2696 01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:01.680 One of these days I'm gonna I'm gonna get you cool. Well, 2697 01:59:01.720 --> 01:59:03.119 thank you? Or any other ones. 2698 01:59:03.439 --> 01:59:07.680 Mary, there's generic ones that everybody's heard. But the ones 2699 01:59:07.720 --> 01:59:14.479 I really liked were uh S Town and uh I 2700 01:59:14.479 --> 01:59:17.560 think it stands for shittown. But s Town is pretty 2701 01:59:17.600 --> 01:59:21.079 good and uh cereal is pretty good, and they're both 2702 01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:25.800 like mystery, like who done it? Like stuff that's pretty good. Okay, 2703 01:59:25.840 --> 01:59:28.720 here's one that might surprise you. Jill on money. I 2704 01:59:28.760 --> 01:59:32.079 listened to Jill on money. She gives a financial advice. Dan, 2705 01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:34.279 you might like that. I know you like have sometimes 2706 01:59:34.279 --> 01:59:36.840 you like talk about money. We've we've actually chatted about 2707 01:59:36.840 --> 01:59:39.760 money sometimes. And like Jill on money, just as she 2708 01:59:39.840 --> 01:59:41.960 takes callers and people will be like, you know, this 2709 01:59:42.039 --> 01:59:45.039 is how much money I have in my bank account 2710 01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:46.760 and someone told me it would be really great to 2711 01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:47.920 invest an X and she'll. 2712 01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:49.439 Be like, that's a bad idea, don't do it. This 2713 01:59:49.479 --> 01:59:50.039 is where one point. 2714 01:59:50.119 --> 01:59:51.680 And she'll just tell people where to put their money 2715 01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:53.920 and like what their goals are. And I find her 2716 01:59:54.399 --> 01:59:56.760 easy to listen to. And sometimes in the car I'll 2717 01:59:56.800 --> 01:59:58.840 listen to Jill on money. It sounds odd. I think 2718 01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:02.640 my dad recommended her to, but it's just nice if 2719 02:00:02.640 --> 02:00:04.840 you're you want like a casual way to think about 2720 02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:07.439 what you might do with some of your stocks or 2721 02:00:07.720 --> 02:00:09.279 bonds or whatever the hell. 2722 02:00:09.159 --> 02:00:10.760 You want to do with your money. But that's that's 2723 02:00:10.760 --> 02:00:11.279 what she does. 2724 02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:14.159 Jill nice to stay. Mary went bankrupt. 2725 02:00:14.359 --> 02:00:18.600 I know I worry about that. I'm not like I 2726 02:00:18.840 --> 02:00:22.000 would not consider myself very savvy. So it's nice to 2727 02:00:22.079 --> 02:00:24.640 like casually listen to someone who's like, this is what 2728 02:00:24.680 --> 02:00:28.159 I would recommend generally is a good plan for retirement. 2729 02:00:28.239 --> 02:00:29.840 I'm like, okay, and I'll think about it and not 2730 02:00:29.920 --> 02:00:30.399 do anything. 2731 02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:34.159 I have a financial guy now, and he reached out 2732 02:00:34.399 --> 02:00:36.399 recently said hey, so I got some tickets. I would 2733 02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:38.119 love to take you and Bianca out to the Saint 2734 02:00:38.199 --> 02:00:41.039 Paul Saints game. And it's like it's like minor league baseball, 2735 02:00:41.079 --> 02:00:44.760 and neither me or bank or even remotely interested in sports. 2736 02:00:44.800 --> 02:00:47.079 And it's like I just had to like, like, I'm 2737 02:00:47.079 --> 02:00:49.439 gonna be honest. If I brought that up to Bonk, 2738 02:00:49.479 --> 02:00:50.960 she'd like, why the fuck are you asking me if 2739 02:00:51.000 --> 02:00:52.800 I want to go to a baseball game? So I 2740 02:00:52.840 --> 02:00:54.680 felt like kind of an asshole, But yeah, I gotta 2741 02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:57.199 I got a buddy now. He's a financial advisor, So 2742 02:00:57.319 --> 02:00:58.039 that's my guy. 2743 02:00:58.199 --> 02:00:59.000 That's nice. 2744 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:00.960 Yeah, and they do that, they get like tickets or 2745 02:01:01.000 --> 02:01:03.079 are like, hey, i'll pay for eighteen holes, et cetera. 2746 02:01:03.199 --> 02:01:07.159 That's a big part of like developing the relationship or something. 2747 02:01:07.239 --> 02:01:10.119 Yeah, he's taken a one percent of my balance every year, 2748 02:01:10.159 --> 02:01:11.359 so yeah, you can give me a dinner. 2749 02:01:11.520 --> 02:01:15.319 He texts you, listen, there's this place where the ravioli 2750 02:01:15.399 --> 02:01:18.159 is basically vertical, and they're twinned up and each one 2751 02:01:18.279 --> 02:01:20.680 has a different filling. And you're like, oh, I know 2752 02:01:20.840 --> 02:01:23.520 this place well, I know shows really good. I think 2753 02:01:23.520 --> 02:01:27.159 about the PASA still every night. Well, thank you Nathan. 2754 02:01:27.359 --> 02:01:31.279 From Nathan Hampshire, Dan, you want to read this one? 2755 02:01:31.319 --> 02:01:32.159 From Darien? 2756 02:01:32.680 --> 02:01:33.000 Sure? 2757 02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:36.359 Hey, escape a renos nice. It is my belief that 2758 02:01:36.479 --> 02:01:39.279 Quake is the perfect distillation of the first person shooter. Now, 2759 02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:41.399 the game itself has issues. It's kind of short, its 2760 02:01:41.439 --> 02:01:44.000 maps are small, VARs and spawns are a nuisance to fight. 2761 02:01:44.079 --> 02:01:46.600 It doesn't have a super shotgun. Of the two, Doom 2762 02:01:46.680 --> 02:01:48.600 is better and more important. But when it comes to 2763 02:01:48.600 --> 02:01:51.279 the fundamental act of moving and shooting, I would legitimately 2764 02:01:51.359 --> 02:01:53.640 argue that the first Quake has yet to be surpassed. 2765 02:01:53.960 --> 02:01:57.359 This isn't just a nostalgia talking. I only really played 2766 02:01:57.359 --> 02:01:59.359 the game five ish years ago, having grown up on 2767 02:01:59.399 --> 02:02:02.359 more linear arrative shooters like Half Life and our return 2768 02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:03.279 to Castle Wolfenstein. 2769 02:02:03.960 --> 02:02:04.640 How about you, guys? 2770 02:02:04.680 --> 02:02:06.279 Can you think of a single title that you think 2771 02:02:06.279 --> 02:02:09.079 best represents a set of mechanics better than any other 2772 02:02:09.479 --> 02:02:12.920 regardless of its objective quality. That is Darien from Toronto. 2773 02:02:13.319 --> 02:02:16.680 Yeah, so I to clarify, I think three episodes ago 2774 02:02:16.680 --> 02:02:20.560 are four. Someone asked this what game best represents the genre? 2775 02:02:20.680 --> 02:02:23.840 Like what is the Mount Rushmore? I had to reread 2776 02:02:23.840 --> 02:02:25.680 this one because I wasn't going to use this, but yeah, 2777 02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:27.920 it's set of mechanics, so it's not like he said, 2778 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:31.439 Doom is probably the indicative shooter, but Quake has like 2779 02:02:31.600 --> 02:02:32.279 is better. 2780 02:02:32.039 --> 02:02:34.560 In this sure space, like the moment to moment like yeah, 2781 02:02:34.600 --> 02:02:37.319 just very nuts and bolts, like moving around shootings. 2782 02:02:37.079 --> 02:02:40.680 Like Resivil four is the quintessential inventory management game in 2783 02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:41.239 my opinion. 2784 02:02:41.439 --> 02:02:46.079 Sure, yeah, I think Soul Caliber, like I know, obviously 2785 02:02:46.079 --> 02:02:48.840 like Street Fighter and Tech and stuff have seen bigger success, 2786 02:02:48.880 --> 02:02:50.640 and I'm sure like purists and stuff would point to 2787 02:02:50.640 --> 02:02:53.680 those is better. But to me, I've never played a 2788 02:02:53.680 --> 02:02:56.520 fighting game that felt more perfect than the first Soul Caliber. 2789 02:02:56.600 --> 02:02:58.119 I just think it just has this flow to it. 2790 02:02:58.159 --> 02:02:59.760 I think all the characters are very. 2791 02:02:59.600 --> 02:03:03.239 Different and very fun to play as any character, Whereas 2792 02:03:03.279 --> 02:03:05.840 you know, I like Mortal Kombat for the characters. I 2793 02:03:05.880 --> 02:03:08.880 respect Street Fighter for just the nuance and you know, 2794 02:03:08.960 --> 02:03:10.960 the technical prowess. You can you can show in that, 2795 02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:13.600 but like, to me, Soul Caliber is just like the 2796 02:03:13.640 --> 02:03:15.840 best feeling fighting game I've ever played. 2797 02:03:16.039 --> 02:03:18.319 You beat me one on one from your basement when 2798 02:03:18.319 --> 02:03:19.319 you couldn't see the screen. 2799 02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:23.399 That's right, I'm not even going to contextualize that, right, right, 2800 02:03:23.760 --> 02:03:24.560 some tape somewhere. 2801 02:03:24.640 --> 02:03:27.079 Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say. Actually, a lot of 2802 02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:30.199 my favorite recent games kind of do this. They drill 2803 02:03:30.279 --> 02:03:32.800 down on one specific idea, Like They are Billions, which 2804 02:03:32.840 --> 02:03:35.119 is still one of my favorite strategy games ever that's 2805 02:03:35.119 --> 02:03:38.239 specifically made for people who like turtling in real time 2806 02:03:38.279 --> 02:03:41.119 strategy games, like slowly building up your defenses like that. 2807 02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:44.239 They made that game for people who play that strategy 2808 02:03:44.520 --> 02:03:48.600 within this subgenre of strategy games. So I'd say They 2809 02:03:48.600 --> 02:03:53.279 are Billions is the turtling game for sure. In terms 2810 02:03:53.279 --> 02:03:57.680 of like, I don't know what would this is really broad, 2811 02:03:57.680 --> 02:03:59.359 So maybe this is too broad and not specific enough. 2812 02:03:59.359 --> 02:04:05.159 What would be the quint essential crafting game mine craft? No, 2813 02:04:05.239 --> 02:04:07.159 But like I mean yeah, so like that's what I guess. 2814 02:04:07.199 --> 02:04:09.600 That's why I'm saying. It's You're not wrong, but that's 2815 02:04:09.600 --> 02:04:13.239 almost like terraforming though kind of crafting, Like yeah, like 2816 02:04:13.359 --> 02:04:15.920 crafting items specifically. 2817 02:04:16.199 --> 02:04:17.039 There's so many. 2818 02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:21.680 Honestly, yeah, I feel good, you know, yeah I started 2819 02:04:22.039 --> 02:04:23.840 stard like you know, you're getting a lot of like 2820 02:04:23.880 --> 02:04:26.039 you know, Okay, I've got this wood and this ore 2821 02:04:26.199 --> 02:04:26.840 and stuff like that. 2822 02:04:26.920 --> 02:04:29.359 Yeah, I think that all works great. Tears the Kingdom, 2823 02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:31.079 I guess pretty. 2824 02:04:31.399 --> 02:04:34.920 Games, it's always Tiers the Kingdom. 2825 02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:39.680 I think Tears is not super elegant because. 2826 02:04:40.720 --> 02:04:42.119 That's a complaint I have with. 2827 02:04:42.119 --> 02:04:44.119 It almost be like it it has to be something 2828 02:04:44.119 --> 02:04:46.399 semi simple, like when I think a really good crafting 2829 02:04:46.399 --> 02:04:47.640 system that didn't get in the way. I think of 2830 02:04:47.680 --> 02:04:50.439 the Last of Us, like making those weapons and. 2831 02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:54.920 Stuff between health and uh a weapon I think is 2832 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:57.560 a brilliant system. Right, it was like you were making 2833 02:04:57.720 --> 02:04:59.840 a definitive choice of whether or not you needed a 2834 02:05:00.600 --> 02:05:03.479 whether or not you wanted a Maltov cocktail. 2835 02:05:03.640 --> 02:05:04.359 Now, I think. 2836 02:05:04.159 --> 02:05:11.640 That's very smart whoever designed that for? Like co op mechanics, 2837 02:05:11.640 --> 02:05:15.079 I think Left four Dead has, like some two specifically 2838 02:05:15.159 --> 02:05:17.720 has like some really core mechanics that I just think 2839 02:05:17.760 --> 02:05:24.560 are duplicated to this day of like the idea of 2840 02:05:25.039 --> 02:05:29.520 special infected or like uniques that are shinies. Right, that 2841 02:05:29.600 --> 02:05:33.399 will be more difficult, but like there's enemies, but then 2842 02:05:33.399 --> 02:05:36.079 there's like enemies that you need to have unique or 2843 02:05:36.119 --> 02:05:39.439 special designs to be able to take down. Together, It's 2844 02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:43.680 very good, and I feel like there was a huge 2845 02:05:43.720 --> 02:05:47.600 element of that that was like about throwable items because 2846 02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:49.960 you can't always be close in that game, and I 2847 02:05:49.960 --> 02:05:52.479 feel like there's been so many games that have mimicked 2848 02:05:52.520 --> 02:05:55.319 that in the future of like needing to be able 2849 02:05:55.359 --> 02:05:57.960 to throw and get away, Like the goal isn't to 2850 02:05:58.039 --> 02:06:00.399 kill everything, the goal is to get out, and so 2851 02:06:00.520 --> 02:06:02.680 like you're not actually trying to kill everything, You're just 2852 02:06:02.680 --> 02:06:04.560 trying to to get through it. 2853 02:06:04.800 --> 02:06:05.760 I find that interesting. 2854 02:06:06.439 --> 02:06:08.920 I have a question. I'm I'm pretty sure I know 2855 02:06:08.960 --> 02:06:11.159 what both of you're going to say, but what would 2856 02:06:11.199 --> 02:06:15.720 be the game that embodies cover mechanics Gears? 2857 02:06:18.359 --> 02:06:21.279 That is probably the first one that would come to mind, 2858 02:06:21.640 --> 02:06:23.880 because you are running from cover to cover. 2859 02:06:24.039 --> 02:06:25.239 That is like the whole point of that. 2860 02:06:25.319 --> 02:06:27.479 I think that's the quintessential cover. I thought you would 2861 02:06:27.479 --> 02:06:28.439 say that immediately as well. 2862 02:06:28.439 --> 02:06:34.640 Mary. That's why that stuff existed before Everything or Nothing, 2863 02:06:34.680 --> 02:06:37.199 the Double seven game, like a year before Gears, Like I. 2864 02:06:37.199 --> 02:06:39.439 Mean that was I thought that was after Gears. 2865 02:06:39.520 --> 02:06:42.239 No, it was like a year before it like five. 2866 02:06:42.359 --> 02:06:44.600 Yeah, what I mean, man, that is Gears is thing 2867 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:47.359 and just been able to do the blind fire stuff. 2868 02:06:47.159 --> 02:06:49.239 Mind fire going from one wall. 2869 02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:54.520 Without having your head out, the fact that they didn't 2870 02:06:54.800 --> 02:06:59.239 wear helmets like you know what, even visually they were like, 2871 02:06:59.319 --> 02:07:02.359 please don't stick your head out because you are wearing 2872 02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:05.560 huge gear and not one fucking thing to covert. 2873 02:07:05.640 --> 02:07:06.680 Yeah. Yeah, I. 2874 02:07:08.359 --> 02:07:10.439 Played all those games when they came out, really liked them, 2875 02:07:10.640 --> 02:07:12.199 didn't touch them for a while, and then I played 2876 02:07:12.199 --> 02:07:14.239 through all of them with Kyla like in the last 2877 02:07:14.239 --> 02:07:16.840 couple of years. And now re reload. It's coming out 2878 02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:19.760 in PlayStation and I'm loving an excuse to just like, fuck, 2879 02:07:19.800 --> 02:07:21.000 I'll play the first Gears. 2880 02:07:20.720 --> 02:07:23.079 Again on like, let's do insane difficulty, let's just play 2881 02:07:23.119 --> 02:07:25.399 like they are just fun fucking video games too. Like 2882 02:07:25.399 --> 02:07:28.319 I think I liked them more over time instead of 2883 02:07:28.359 --> 02:07:30.000 just like, oh, this installgier thing. I they were good 2884 02:07:30.039 --> 02:07:31.840 games back then. Now I look at it and it's 2885 02:07:31.880 --> 02:07:33.600 like I think I like these better than Halo. You know, 2886 02:07:36.119 --> 02:07:36.840 that's a tough one. 2887 02:07:36.880 --> 02:07:39.600 I think I like Halos, but Gears are awesome games. 2888 02:07:40.119 --> 02:07:42.119 Gears are really good Gears. It's not unfair. 2889 02:07:42.279 --> 02:07:44.000 Yeah. I grew up on Gears, so Gears is my 2890 02:07:44.000 --> 02:07:46.760 favorite because that was the thing that got me in. 2891 02:07:47.279 --> 02:07:49.079 But for many people that's Halo. 2892 02:07:49.880 --> 02:07:52.199 Basically all the Halo games now with a mess chief collection. 2893 02:07:52.239 --> 02:07:53.880 Don't they all have like four player co op? 2894 02:07:54.840 --> 02:07:55.199 Do they? 2895 02:07:55.319 --> 02:07:58.199 I'm pretty sure they retroactively at it. No, maybe not 2896 02:07:58.279 --> 02:08:00.359 no Infinite ever at a co op that was like 2897 02:08:00.399 --> 02:08:00.840 a whole thing. 2898 02:08:00.880 --> 02:08:02.720 Wait, do I I heard they did? Did? They finally 2899 02:08:03.239 --> 02:08:05.399 said recently they didn't have it at launch, which is 2900 02:08:05.479 --> 02:08:06.960 right they didn't or for a while. 2901 02:08:06.880 --> 02:08:07.560 Great idea. 2902 02:08:09.399 --> 02:08:09.880 Yeah. 2903 02:08:10.159 --> 02:08:12.840 I would also say Gears has the definitive like wave 2904 02:08:12.920 --> 02:08:16.520 defense hord mode and two when they chose had hord 2905 02:08:16.560 --> 02:08:17.960 mode or two that was amazing. 2906 02:08:18.279 --> 02:08:20.560 Yeah, fives was so good. We played a lot of 2907 02:08:20.560 --> 02:08:21.039 that together. 2908 02:08:21.359 --> 02:08:23.840 What do you think is the first game that had 2909 02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:27.800 time that you could compare to your friends times? Because 2910 02:08:27.800 --> 02:08:30.279 that is like something that everybody fucking does now and 2911 02:08:30.319 --> 02:08:31.159 it's very good. 2912 02:08:31.680 --> 02:08:33.720 Was it super meat Boy or am I insane? 2913 02:08:33.920 --> 02:08:36.119 I mean there were definitely like ways with like older 2914 02:08:36.159 --> 02:08:38.000 like there was you know, speed run communities and stuff 2915 02:08:38.079 --> 02:08:39.239 long before that, but in. 2916 02:08:39.199 --> 02:08:43.199 Terms of like but it was a mechanic game of it. 2917 02:08:43.560 --> 02:08:45.479 I feel like you started seeing leader wards a lot 2918 02:08:45.640 --> 02:08:49.560 with three sixty and XBYX live Arcade like Geometry Wars, 2919 02:08:50.039 --> 02:08:51.600 but that wasn't a time thing, you know, but like 2920 02:08:51.640 --> 02:08:52.960 I do think it would have to be around that 2921 02:08:53.039 --> 02:08:55.560 three sixty era. I'm just trying to think specifically a 2922 02:08:55.720 --> 02:08:56.520 time thing. 2923 02:08:56.600 --> 02:08:59.119 Did Mirror's Edge have time like compare? 2924 02:08:59.439 --> 02:09:01.760 I don't know if it had leader boards. 2925 02:09:02.199 --> 02:09:05.880 I know the new one did, but yeah, I liked 2926 02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:06.880 Trial's evolution. 2927 02:09:07.119 --> 02:09:08.399 I thought I had really where you can see the 2928 02:09:08.439 --> 02:09:15.119 ghost of the your friend's list. Yeah, yeah, I don't 2929 02:09:15.239 --> 02:09:16.479 like Uh. 2930 02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:20.399 Trying to think of another mechanic that's like everywhere, but 2931 02:09:20.439 --> 02:09:21.800 there's one that just does it. 2932 02:09:22.119 --> 02:09:24.560 Uh, this is a more niche genre, I guess, but 2933 02:09:24.920 --> 02:09:27.680 Tony Hawk skating, Like I've played plenty of skating games 2934 02:09:27.680 --> 02:09:30.000 that aren't Tony Hawk. Nothing feels like Tony Hawk. Like 2935 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:32.840 that's what I want them all to feel like. I 2936 02:09:33.039 --> 02:09:34.960 never liked skate really is just because like this does 2937 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:36.520 not feel like Tony Hawk. They nailed it. 2938 02:09:38.920 --> 02:09:41.199 I think what has like the best, like Wall Running Mechanics, 2939 02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:42.159 Titan Fall two. 2940 02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:44.560 It's probably some Prince of Persia or something like that. 2941 02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:46.880 Prince of Persia. I remember had some pretty good wall 2942 02:09:46.920 --> 02:09:50.000 running titan Fall and Titan Falls mobility, that's the best 2943 02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:53.079 first person shooter mobility ever, I think, Yeah, for sure, 2944 02:09:53.760 --> 02:09:55.520 do Maternal got pretty good with that. 2945 02:09:55.680 --> 02:10:00.279 Had brilliant design in the levels though that were all 2946 02:10:00.319 --> 02:10:04.359 about min maxing wall running in such an elegant way, 2947 02:10:04.880 --> 02:10:08.439 And I do kind of look at that as in 2948 02:10:08.479 --> 02:10:12.560 some ways the best genuinely, Like Prince of Persia was first, 2949 02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:15.319 but was it the best? Because the question is is like, 2950 02:10:15.359 --> 02:10:16.840 what do we think is like the best? And man, 2951 02:10:16.880 --> 02:10:19.399 titan Fall two is so fucking good, it's so slept on. 2952 02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:23.520 There's a good argument for Titanfall two definitely. Yeah, Like 2953 02:10:23.560 --> 02:10:25.760 that had that training room where you can set the time. 2954 02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:31.000 Basically it also, yeah, Neon White basically just took that 2955 02:10:31.079 --> 02:10:34.399 and made a game out of it. But this is the. 2956 02:10:35.760 --> 02:10:38.520 Time trial game now, it's a great one. Yeah. 2957 02:10:39.479 --> 02:10:40.760 All right, well, thank you. 2958 02:10:42.399 --> 02:10:42.760 Darien. 2959 02:10:44.039 --> 02:10:46.000 All Right, that's our emails, that's our show. 2960 02:10:46.359 --> 02:10:47.319 It's a good question. 2961 02:10:47.840 --> 02:10:49.239 I feel like I could think of more because there's 2962 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:50.199 so many different mechanics. 2963 02:10:50.239 --> 02:10:53.880 But yeah, yeah, that's fire Escape Cast at gmail dot com. 2964 02:10:53.880 --> 02:10:57.079 You can write in for next episode, send in more. 2965 02:10:57.560 --> 02:10:59.880 We've got a few more left to burn through. 2966 02:11:00.399 --> 02:11:01.479 That sounds bad. We enjoy them. 2967 02:11:01.520 --> 02:11:03.119 I didn't mean burned through them, but like we got some. 2968 02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:06.279 We got some to that we're gonna dive into crash. 2969 02:11:06.000 --> 02:11:08.039 In the old heap. But if you want to throw 2970 02:11:08.119 --> 02:11:10.359 some more shrimp on the barbie, you send them right 2971 02:11:10.399 --> 02:11:13.279 on in the fire escape at gmail dot com. 2972 02:11:13.479 --> 02:11:15.840 We got plenty of turds in the toilet, but. 2973 02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:19.359 We can like two emails whenever Mike's gone, I pick 2974 02:11:19.439 --> 02:11:20.640 like eight, that's right. 2975 02:11:20.560 --> 02:11:23.079 Yeah, because I'm preserving them, conserving them. 2976 02:11:23.680 --> 02:11:26.840 But you really got to preserve those turds in the toil. 2977 02:11:27.520 --> 02:11:30.000 Yeah, you got it. I think they're shining like diamonds. 2978 02:11:30.079 --> 02:11:32.279 You're flashing too many, Dan. 2979 02:11:33.800 --> 02:11:34.600 I can't stop. 2980 02:11:36.119 --> 02:11:38.399 It's a weird addiction thing. 2981 02:11:39.159 --> 02:11:39.640 All right. 2982 02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:41.479 Well, we'll be back in a couple of weeks. But 2983 02:11:41.479 --> 02:11:45.720 in the meantime, you can go to deep Dishpussy dot com. Yeah, 2984 02:11:46.279 --> 02:11:47.960 if you're not a subscriber, if you want to get 2985 02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:51.199 ad free episodes, or you wanna be a video patron 2986 02:11:51.279 --> 02:11:54.399 and get access to uh the show for instance that 2987 02:11:54.399 --> 02:11:56.840 we're doing with Nexlander, Me and Vinnie are saving the 2988 02:11:56.840 --> 02:11:59.680 world in Total Warhammer three co op campaign and then 2989 02:12:00.239 --> 02:12:03.640 for those who are not patrons of Next Lander, you 2990 02:12:03.640 --> 02:12:06.039 can go watch where we're destroying world. There's two different factions, 2991 02:12:06.079 --> 02:12:09.239 different part of the map. That's an episodic. I think 2992 02:12:09.239 --> 02:12:12.520 we're on episodes like eleven of each something like that, twelve, 2993 02:12:12.560 --> 02:12:15.640 maybe thirteen, something like that. We're in like the getting 2994 02:12:15.640 --> 02:12:19.159 into the forties turn wise in the game. And then 2995 02:12:19.199 --> 02:12:25.880 also Resident Canievel four remake is back. We're finishing it off. 2996 02:12:25.960 --> 02:12:26.319 We are. 2997 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:31.119 We're pretty positive coming up on the last episode against Sadler. Yeah, 2998 02:12:31.199 --> 02:12:33.319 that's also on our YouTube channel. You do not need 2999 02:12:33.319 --> 02:12:35.199 to be a patron for that. You don't need to 3000 02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:39.159 subscribe anything. It's free for everybody. But just go follow 3001 02:12:39.319 --> 02:12:41.720 Firescape cast on YouTube just so you see when that 3002 02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:42.159 goes up. 3003 02:12:43.680 --> 02:12:46.319 We had some really funny moments in the last episode 3004 02:12:46.359 --> 02:12:49.520 two and they're free. I posted on our twitter the 3005 02:12:50.039 --> 02:12:52.319 I seen you to send it to you, Mike. I 3006 02:12:52.359 --> 02:12:54.760 put them all on a playlist so you can watch 3007 02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:58.199 the whole from beginning. You can watch the whole playlist 3008 02:12:58.640 --> 02:13:01.560 from the beginning without skipping a beat and tweeted it. 3009 02:13:02.239 --> 02:13:03.279 I mean, if you want to go all the way 3010 02:13:03.319 --> 02:13:05.640 back to the beginning at GameSpot, you can there's how 3011 02:13:05.640 --> 02:13:06.439 many seasons are there? 3012 02:13:06.479 --> 02:13:10.159 Four fifteen, sixteen, crazy because we've played pretty much all 3013 02:13:10.239 --> 02:13:13.239 of them, minimum all the numbered series and like you know. 3014 02:13:13.239 --> 02:13:16.720 Well we have not played the OG first game. We 3015 02:13:17.039 --> 02:13:19.479 went right to remake. That was a quality. I know, 3016 02:13:19.840 --> 02:13:21.880 that's a quality on my heart. I want to get 3017 02:13:21.880 --> 02:13:23.439 the game off to a strong note. The first one 3018 02:13:23.439 --> 02:13:27.039 has not aged all that well. Sorry Tintury for listening, 3019 02:13:29.079 --> 02:13:30.760 but we can we That's like a lost episode. So 3020 02:13:30.880 --> 02:13:32.520 is Resident Evil Revelations too. 3021 02:13:33.520 --> 02:13:35.800 So is Code Veronica. 3022 02:13:36.359 --> 02:13:40.319 No, you played Code Veronica remember father that one? Yeah, 3023 02:13:40.720 --> 02:13:45.520 the fire Extinguisher puzzle that sucks. We have not There's 3024 02:13:45.560 --> 02:13:48.880 a couple I think Jake and Ada campaigns and res 3025 02:13:48.880 --> 02:13:51.159 Evil six, which I'm champion at the bit to play 3026 02:13:51.319 --> 02:13:53.880 as always. But yeah, Mary, what else do you have 3027 02:13:53.920 --> 02:13:55.199 going on outside of Fire Skape? 3028 02:13:56.239 --> 02:14:01.199 I mean, yeah, Kanini with you and I dream every 3029 02:14:01.479 --> 02:14:07.039 Monday usually, and I played Peak last Monday and had 3030 02:14:07.039 --> 02:14:09.199 a great time, so I always look forward to it. 3031 02:14:09.279 --> 02:14:10.720 So it's a good it's a good time. 3032 02:14:10.920 --> 02:14:13.800 Come on down, Danielle. 3033 02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:18.960 What about you, Giant bomb dot Com? 3034 02:14:19.119 --> 02:14:21.479 I am feeling great about it lately. We are kind 3035 02:14:21.479 --> 02:14:24.039 of getting past the like oh ship we owned the company. 3036 02:14:24.039 --> 02:14:26.239 Oh god, but we gotta get all this stuff moved. 3037 02:14:26.039 --> 02:14:27.880 Over loves bringing that up. 3038 02:14:29.600 --> 02:14:34.680 Being an owner of a company. 3039 02:14:36.159 --> 02:14:36.239 I. 3040 02:14:38.560 --> 02:14:41.840 Didn't know how terrible we work with Mike Manati until 3041 02:14:41.920 --> 02:14:42.520 I did it. 3042 02:14:44.600 --> 02:14:46.479 Money, What am I gonna do with it? 3043 02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:49.920 What am I gonna do if I complained about this? 3044 02:14:50.119 --> 02:14:51.000 What am I gonna do? 3045 02:14:52.560 --> 02:14:59.640 Situation own giant bomb. It's very good. We're doing great 3046 02:14:59.640 --> 02:15:03.600 work there. Check out Jurassic Grub Trespasser, grub Passer, whatever 3047 02:15:03.600 --> 02:15:05.159 we call it. It's the new club season. 3048 02:15:05.159 --> 02:15:10.079 We're playing Jurassic Park Trespasser, a fascinating weird uh from 3049 02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:14.760 from like way before they were ready for it. Yes, 3050 02:15:14.840 --> 02:15:17.079 Grub is playing that now and it is a delight. 3051 02:15:17.239 --> 02:15:19.279 So check out Blake Club and everything else. We got 3052 02:15:19.279 --> 02:15:21.039 going on a giant palm because I think we're on 3053 02:15:21.079 --> 02:15:21.720 fire right now. 3054 02:15:21.880 --> 02:15:23.279 Corey Barlog worked on that game. 3055 02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:23.880 Did you know that? 3056 02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:25.439 I don't think that's true. 3057 02:15:25.560 --> 02:15:27.000 I know I made that up. That's funny, though I'm 3058 02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:27.720 gonna start doing that. 3059 02:15:27.960 --> 02:15:29.600 It's funny. Did you think it's funny? 3060 02:15:29.800 --> 02:15:33.600 Worked on Halos four. That's not a joke, I know, 3061 02:15:33.680 --> 02:15:36.119 but it throws you off, clearly off your rhythmic. 3062 02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:39.079 That's a classic mic joke because always. 3063 02:15:39.159 --> 02:15:43.880 But I think I worked on Jurassic grub evolution. 3064 02:15:46.359 --> 02:15:47.279 Fucking grow up. 3065 02:15:49.560 --> 02:15:52.039 All right, that's our episode. We'll be back in a 3066 02:15:52.079 --> 02:15:54.920 couple of weeks with episode what one fourteen? I think, God, 3067 02:15:55.039 --> 02:15:57.520 we've done this too much. We've done this for too long. 3068 02:15:57.680 --> 02:16:00.560 Is this one thirteen? Thanks? So we are four? I'm 3069 02:16:00.720 --> 02:16:01.680 I'm looking at one thirteen. 3070 02:16:01.760 --> 02:16:05.920 This right now, this is one fourteen, and we didn't celebrate. 3071 02:16:06.239 --> 02:16:07.079 The host should know. 3072 02:16:07.079 --> 02:16:10.439 That, I know, married take out. 3073 02:16:11.319 --> 02:16:14.520 Thank you all, baby boys and baby girls for listening 3074 02:16:14.640 --> 02:16:17.560 to another awesome episode. We'll see you on the next one. 3075 02:16:18.199 --> 02:16:18.680 Check it. 3076 02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:20.840 That's my exit. That's like the way I say goodbye. 3077 02:16:21.039 --> 02:16:23.560 Check it? Yeah nice? Do you like it? 3078 02:16:23.920 --> 02:16:24.680 Yeah, it's amazing. 3079 02:16:24.840 --> 02:16:26.720 I said check it like. That's it. 3080 02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:27.239 That's the end. 3081 02:16:27.520 --> 02:16:31.159 Oh yeah, sorry, go again, go again? Ya wait, wait, 3082 02:16:31.319 --> 02:16:32.920 we'll get Seana clean out. Ready, here we go, Here 3083 02:16:32.920 --> 02:17:00.879 we go and married? Check it five