WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:05.080 How much is a sausage and chip where you are? 2 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.080 Too much? I took the kids to the chip shop 3 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:14.439 the other day and it, honestly, it costs like Liberia's deficit. 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:16.480 It was insane. 5 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:19.760 Thing's too expensive now, isn't it. 6 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:22.600 Yes, sausage and batter? 7 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:25.839 You buy one? You think I'm never going to financially 8 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:26.719 recover from this? 9 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:31.839 Now? It's crazy. I couldn't agree more. There is the 10 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:35.439 cost of living crisis that Labor kept going on about 11 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:38.000 is still alive and well now. And it's funny how 12 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.600 they've managed to go and shut up about it because 13 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:46.640 everything at supermarkets is just expensive and crap, and I 14 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.439 don't exactly know why, but it is. 15 00:00:49.759 --> 00:00:50.799 I would argue. 16 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.320 That it's not it's I mean a sausage and chips. 17 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:59.119 You're basically just existing. I mean that's not cost of living. 18 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.079 You ain't living eating sausage and chips. 19 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:03.240 Wow, there you go. 20 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.239 You see, we'll drive around the country quite a lot 21 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.640 at the moment for our different work things, so we 22 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:12.000 probably all have to frequent service stations. I literally can't 23 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:14.879 afford anything in there now. I'd end up brewing up 24 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.000 coffee with the the battery powered coffee grinder on the 25 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:20.239 tailgate of the land Rover in the car park on 26 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.599 a gas stove instead of going into startup or wherever. 27 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:29.159 Oh oh yeah, it's yes. Everything is very expensive and wages, 28 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.079 to my mind, haven't gone up. I can't suddenly turn 29 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:36.560 around and go and charge you know, that much more 30 00:01:36.640 --> 00:01:39.439 for what I do. It just doesn't doesn't work. No 31 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:44.879 one's every Everyone seems to be prepared to charge higher prices, 32 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:46.799 and so you're going to have to lump here, but 33 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:51.079 they're not prepared to pay higher fees for the services 34 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:51.959 that you provide. 35 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:55.480 Yeah. Yeah, the day rates haven't gone up. 36 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.480 Yeah, same, isn't it. No, I'm just going to nip 37 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:00.480 off and get a drink a sec and night be back. 38 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:02.519 Hold on, hold on, do. 39 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:08.719 You think he knows that we're recording? So, dear listener, 40 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.719 this is what it's like most of the time. You know, 41 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:14.240 we we have all of it, We have everything on 42 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:16.599 screen in front of him. He knows it's recording. It 43 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:19.759 says recording. There's a little counter there that says recording. 44 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:23.120 It's flashed down five four three two one when I 45 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:26.159 hit record, and here we are. This is this is 46 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:28.159 real life. This is real time. 47 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:32.400 What do you think he drinks? What's a summer quencher 48 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:33.879 for Richard? 49 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:39.400 Nigus laichi juice? I think juice laichi. 50 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:42.680 Oh that's a bit out there, isn't it. 51 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:44.080 It was going to be exotic, hasn't it. 52 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:45.759 Oh? 53 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.800 Do you know what he's done as well? He's put 54 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:55.080 his he's put his mouthpiece close to his headphones, so 55 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:58.240 all I can hear is myself be repeated back in 56 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:02.840 a three second Suffolk delay directly into the microphone. 57 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.159 Well, this is you know what you sound like now 58 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:12.599 in an opulently appointed, hand carved oak extension conservatory thing. 59 00:03:13.159 --> 00:03:14.319 This is what you sound like. 60 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.120 Via a microphone that was taken from a pound shop 61 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:18.879 bargain bin. 62 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:21.520 Yeah, Richard, do you know that we're recording? 63 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.520 Yes? And now I didn't. Sorry, we've been recording minutes. 64 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:31.159 It's okay, that's all. That's all staying in. I'm back. 65 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:38.800 I've just got myself an elderflower cordial it. 66 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:41.840 Yeah, we're trying to guess what you were drinking. I 67 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.360 should have had a good go at that, Amy guest. 68 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.560 Lemon barley water, lemon barley water. 69 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:52.120 Yeah, I see that in. Yeah, he's very old school, 70 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:52.439 isn't it. 71 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.680 I'm going to go out and say that you're probably 72 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.000 not a black currant fan. I think you're more of 73 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:02.639 an orange elderflower. Call deal, and you know, the more 74 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:04.280 botanical variety. 75 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:15.120 Yes, yeah, the right cross to the bank. Guns on 76 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:17.800 pegs don't have this problem. They seem to be just 77 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:19.959 polished all the way through Farmers Weekly. 78 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:25.560 Why no, because they pre record all the stuff Farmers Weekly. 79 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.000 It's all very slickly edited together. You know, there's and 80 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:32.000 there's all recorded in chunks and guns on pegs they 81 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:34.800 just sworn about in London and sort of where they've 82 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.519 got high internet speeds. That's what I heard anyway, you know, 83 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.879 basically they're just sat in some Kensington drinking den. 84 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:41.360 Well. 85 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:43.839 I heard that they were just entirely AI generated. I 86 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:48.360 think Avian is an entirely AI generated model of a 87 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:48.959 human being. 88 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:53.399 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, it's it's not real, it's 89 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.120 not legit. It's not like us, you know, wats and all. 90 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:01.399 Yeah. So, callum, have you had any VEG related disasters recently? 91 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:02.519 Ah? 92 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:09.000 Yeah, So as of my last week's attempt at going 93 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.800 to a shoot and then breaking down and having a 94 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:14.959 what when what was it. 95 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.240 That was a mechanical breakdown, not an emotional one this time. 96 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:24.519 I mean you could use it across both. Really, where 97 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:28.519 I was stuck on the A one twenty after the 98 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.319 first long journey and my new car, which I bought 99 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:34.959 from what did you call it? Deceased spec? Yes, got 100 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.439 it on a very bargain price because the man stopped 101 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:40.639 driving for a long time and then he died. And 102 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.720 ironically I found a DVD in the Kenwood DVD player 103 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:50.199 that said longevity through exercise, which I'm not sure if 104 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:54.079 that worked or didn't work. The jury's out on that. 105 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.079 Well, I'm imagining if he's dead. If he's dead, I'm 106 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.040 going for it. It didn't work? Is that I? 107 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.000 Headphones? So did we catch zero of what Niga said? 108 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:08.000 Headphone? I don't know I heard it. I was waiting 109 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.759 for you to come back in this. 110 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:11.519 Is sheet's going off Champs. 111 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:14.439 It might be Calum this time. 112 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.199 Yeah, I think it might be me as soon as 113 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.480 Callum comes on. Is he like stealing all our country Internet? 114 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:25.199 Because when I'm speaking with you, it's all fine, Richard, 115 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.759 But then Callum comes on and he like comes in. 116 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:31.279 He did vote labor, didn't he? He did vote labor? 117 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:36.439 Perhaps they've given them special internet that if you stealing 118 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:38.680 our country internet, I'm good. 119 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.480 I mean, we've got very good rural internet here, but 120 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.079 we are constantly in danger of it going off every 121 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.160 time that the hedgecutter comes past, because there's a very 122 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.000 droopy fiber optic cable, so at some point it's going 123 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.120 to snag and all the Internet would disappear. 124 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:59.680 Dear listener, if you could just spare the three pounds 125 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:05.079 for you can get Richard Nigis internet that will allow 126 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:11.360 him to continue to record like a normal podcaster. Podcasters 127 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:17.800 in this country are seriously under threat, especially rural ones 128 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.319 that can't have the Internet. You can support us via 129 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:25.160 country slide, dot co do dot uk slash support. 130 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:29.120 Thank you for a man who I've said this many 131 00:07:29.199 --> 00:07:33.199 times before, for a man whose income increasingly relies on 132 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.839 his ability to sit in front of the laptop and 133 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:40.240 type and send things through an Internet connection. He has 134 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:44.279 spent more on wine in the last week I think 135 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.560 than he has spent on laptops in the last year. 136 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.160 Yes, that would be fair to stay. 137 00:07:54.879 --> 00:08:00.800 What's the matter? What's happening? Do you remember what was 138 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.279 the thing with Victor Meldrew in it? One foot in 139 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.079 the grave. Remember that. 140 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:06.399 I do remember that, Callum. 141 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:07.759 Yeah, I get. 142 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:12.720 I didn't realize that that was actually like an autobiographical 143 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:17.560 sort of thing. But obviously Richard Nigas is living that 144 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:19.759 in a different timeline. 145 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:23.160 I didn't. I didn't know Victor Meldrew's day job before 146 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:26.199 he retired was a hedge layer. So, Callum, whilst we're 147 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:27.920 waiting for him, do you want to keep on telling 148 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:29.360 us about your car. 149 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:33.159 So rich we might actually get a story out. 150 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:34.759 Yeah, decease spec Come on. 151 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:39.759 Yeah, disease deceased spec car. And I broke down on 152 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:42.559 the A one two n T on the way to 153 00:08:43.799 --> 00:08:46.240 Simon Garnum, so I'll give you a little talk about that. 154 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.279 It's funny. So I went to go to his house 155 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:51.159 and then I broke down, and we were going to 156 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:58.120 do like an evening bit of fishing, and well, obviously 157 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.000 I just broke down. So I'm on the side of 158 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:04.480 the motorway. I tucked myself away in. They asked me 159 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.360 if I was somewhere safe, and I was like, well, 160 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.840 not really. I'm sort of on a verge of the 161 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:14.559 of a very fast dual carriageway and the only shelter 162 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:18.240 I have is a rose bush, which, if you know, 163 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:25.200 no lorries don't don't get stopped by sort of rose bushes, 164 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:30.120 which also meant I couldn't climb It was so dense 165 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:33.120 I couldn't climb up anywhere to get out of the way, 166 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:39.080 just very dangerously close to the car. So obviously AA 167 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:43.360 still took four hours to come and get me on 168 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:44.919 a priority, high priority. 169 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:45.360 Yeah. 170 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.759 Also, you know I said kids in the car, They 171 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:56.360 ended up just leaving, so that was that because there 172 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.519 was you know, it was a half hour away whatever, 173 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.720 so they ended up leaving kids in the car. They 174 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:07.159 thought that was perfectly fine. Ended up towing me to 175 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:11.759 a garage, and the garage had the car for like 176 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:13.840 two or three days. I ended up having to get 177 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:17.600 a lift back from the garage to home at like midnight. 178 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.000 It then, what's the rest of the story. My brain's 179 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:26.759 gone dead. Yeah, got back home. They took like three 180 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.679 or four days to fit a new fuel injector and 181 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.000 got the car back, and then I drove to the 182 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:37.600 train station yesterday with a strong smell of fuel, and 183 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:41.840 then I drove home with an equally strong smell of fuel. 184 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:45.639 Lifted the bonnet up to see that there was fuel 185 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.440 pulling in the top of the engine bay, which I 186 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:50.840 don't know a lot about cars, but that's bad. 187 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.039 Generally the fuel is meant to be in the contained system. 188 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:59.840 Yeah, yeah, I had guessed that. I'm not a car expert, 189 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:02.799 but I know fee'll be bad. 190 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:04.679 Mm hmm. 191 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:08.679 So has it been resolved now? 192 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:13.759 He's sitting on the drive. In the meantime, my dog died, 193 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.559 So it's been It's been a tough one. 194 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.399 If your wife leaves you now, you are a country 195 00:11:21.399 --> 00:11:22.480 and Western song, aren't you? 196 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:26.600 Oh yeah? Do you leave me with a keen old now? 197 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:30.320 And now we're going to try and check in with 198 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.360 our Suffolk correspondent, Richard Nigus. 199 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.840 Broad Sword calling Danny Boy, broad Sword calling Danny Boy. 200 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:39.600 Can you hear me, Danny? 201 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:45.480 Oh my god, he's back, excellent, receiving you strength to hell? 202 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:47.480 Yeah? Yes? 203 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:48.879 Did you turn it off and on again? 204 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.279 Well, I've tried it with my phone. That didn't work. 205 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:56.080 I tried it with all sorts of things. I don't 206 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:57.600 know what the matter with it is. 207 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:58.320 Miss. 208 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:00.799 I think it were shut. I thought we had quite 209 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.639 good internet. I do some things. Why I talk to 210 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.360 other people, you know, with zoom and teams and things 211 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.639 and it seems to work all right, But I don't know. 212 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.480 It doesn't like this podcast. I think it's I think 213 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:16.240 it's probably sabotaged. I think guns on pegs of sabotage 214 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:16.799 the internet. 215 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:21.320 In Finningham we are hitting the guns on pegs sort 216 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:23.919 of seo quite well here on search terms, just on 217 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:27.000 words used, we're doing quite well. Do you know that 218 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:32.120 is a thing, Yeah, for podcasts and videos and YouTube 219 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:37.080 and things like that, that if you say things like finance, finance, mortgage, mortgage, 220 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:40.399 beauty products, beauty products eighteen to twenty five years range, 221 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.440 and use all these keywords, it will be AI will 222 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.279 pick you up and promote you more. 223 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.960 I listened to the podcast the other day and I 224 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:52.639 got an advert for a crypto thing. I was like, yeah, 225 00:12:52.759 --> 00:12:56.399 hopefully we've got a few quid for that big finance. 226 00:12:57.960 --> 00:13:00.480 I listened to an episode the other day and I 227 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:04.200 got an advert sent to me for a beer soaked towel. 228 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:07.639 So obviously dwell flonking is must be a search term 229 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:11.519 that chap GPT now understands. 230 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:15.879 You're like, you're like that key demographic that soon you'll 231 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:21.799 be getting targeted adverts for like over fifties pension plan, 232 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:27.919 funeral plans, and you'll probably get action slacks, you know 233 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:33.799 the type of boards the Yeah, the slippers that have 234 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:35.799 got the velcrow and you're don't have to do any 235 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:36.960 sort of stuff. 236 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.519 Zip up tart and booty slippers with the integral heating. 237 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.919 Well do you know, oh we forgot about the stair lift, yes, Stannard. Well, 238 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.600 you know it's quite interesting actually, is that the day 239 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:51.159 I turned fifty I started getting advertverts coming to me 240 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:55.600 for Saga Holidays. So you know they seem to think 241 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:59.360 I want to go on cruises and catch Legionnaire's disease 242 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:03.320 whilst tall the Fjords of Norway in a boat with 243 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.399 a load of sort of people whose hobbies are golf. No, 244 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:08.120 not really, my bag man. 245 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.000 I suppose that was a memorable day for you as well, 246 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.279 because you know, you turned fifty. You looked up at 247 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:17.240 the radio there was Margaret Thatcher just becoming Prime Minister. 248 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:22.399 And obviously you know, I remember I was laughing that 249 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:25.559 day I turned fifty. George Formby had just bought something 250 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:28.840 out which made me chuckle. You know, he was on 251 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.600 there on the stage at glaston Grill. No, he was 252 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.039 on the stage at Glastonbury again, can let's go and 253 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:38.039 kill the Nazis? He was going, No, he never did that, 254 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.120 did he? But it seems to me that it's all 255 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:41.440 right now. If you're going to be a pop star, 256 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.679 I got to go and advise that you kill people. 257 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:47.919 So when we're actually fighting real Nazis, then singers don't 258 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:51.600 go and tell us let's go and kill Nazis. But well, 259 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:52.480 do you know what I'm talking about that? 260 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:57.279 I would say the sex Pistols and the punk movement 261 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:01.840 probably did a little bit of political campaigning. 262 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.480 Yes, yes, I think they did. I wouldn't disagree with that. 263 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:12.320 I think that, however, they were certainly the alternative. You know, 264 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:14.840 I'm old enough to remember when the punks used to 265 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:18.559 be about for real, you know, I was what six 266 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.639 seven years old when the sex Pistols suddenly arrived on 267 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.720 the scene. And but everyone was just horrified that these 268 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:30.879 people came about. But it is a fair point, you know, 269 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:36.519 it hasn't been. It isn't a new thing that musicians 270 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:37.480 do so things. 271 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:39.799 This is the thing I like, they're all going on 272 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:43.679 about it because it's you know, it's it's a slove newsweek. 273 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:47.480 Other than World War three and that they all go 274 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.639 on about it, but like I was just I was 275 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:55.679 trying to think of controversial people. And then we had 276 00:15:56.840 --> 00:16:01.639 Morrissey now England for the English from the National Front Disco. 277 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:08.639 That's pretty rough, but I suppose anti Semitism that's not 278 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.559 you you know, that's not really quite normal. And when 279 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.080 you then go and see a load of sort of 280 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:18.080 Trustefarians all stand jumping around in the field shouting back 281 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:20.960 that they, you know, let's go and kill the Israeli 282 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:24.879 Defense Force. I think that was quite a new one. 283 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:29.159 But worse still, worse still that chat Bob villain real 284 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:33.799 name something double barreled comes from Ipswich. I mean, god, 285 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.080 he's really let the suffolk side down. We're not We're 286 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:41.679 not anti Seamites here, We're not, you know, it's how bad. 287 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.879 Bob Villain's real name is Pascal Robinson Foster. 288 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:52.080 Sands like the Cox for the second eleven second eight 289 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.759 to eton, doesn't he It. 290 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:56.720 Does sound like something from a sort of a Leslie 291 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:57.480 Nielsen film. 292 00:16:57.960 --> 00:16:58.159 Yeah. 293 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:02.759 Yeah, it's a levels of ridiculousness that we have. Now. 294 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.039 The other thing is that the thing with like punks 295 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:08.920 and stuff like that, if you were in London in 296 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.359 certain scenes in the seventies into the eighties, they were everywhere. 297 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.839 If you were in I don't know, rural Somerset, they 298 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:19.839 were nowhere. And I think it's we almost through media 299 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.839 and through media talking about something from five years ago, 300 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:25.920 ten years ago, or a film set in the seventies 301 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.920 or eighties, they put stuff into that to say this 302 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:31.640 is definitely shows London in the seventies. Look, we've got 303 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:36.079 punks in the background, whereas they weren't as prevalent as 304 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:40.599 those films make out. And that's probably what we're seeing 305 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:44.079 here with all this is stuff like that is said 306 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:46.880 all over the place in small areas. It's just this 307 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.599 time it happened to be broadcast on the BBC, and 308 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:52.599 that's what we're seeing here. So it's not something that 309 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.039 was said for the first time. It's just hearing it now. 310 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:57.880 But lots of other stuff is said by other people 311 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:01.039 saying other ridiculous, bloody things. 312 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.480 I think as well, there's a little bit of a 313 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:09.000 backlash fine finally, a backlash against what is perceived as 314 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:14.319 a bunch of rich, right on people, you know, spending 315 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.799 four hundred quid on a ticket that is one of 316 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:22.759 the few outdoor events that the BBC still cover. You know, 317 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.880 they say they can't afford to go and do Oh no, 318 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:27.720 we can't afford to do the Grand National. No we 319 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.960 can't afford to do any ashes test matches. No we 320 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.960 can't afford to do the Six Nations. But oh yes, 321 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:38.400 we can send four hundred crew to this thing, all 322 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.880 filled with you know, young people and bands being rude. 323 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.240 We can afford to do that. And I think there's 324 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.960 a bit of a backlashes that people. It's the same 325 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.519 reason why Reformer high in the polls, and you know, 326 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.519 Rupert Lowe came on and said, oh, we're all going 327 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:54.319 to do this thing. It's not a party, but it's 328 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:56.720 sort of a party and we're going to go. And 329 00:18:56.759 --> 00:18:58.720 there's loads of people who are just saying, I think 330 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:02.359 we've had enough of all this. And in a way 331 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:06.240 Glastonbury has taken the kicking for it rightly probably and 332 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.200 wrongly as well, because I don't think everyone goes there, 333 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:12.960 you know, with the intention of being a git like that. 334 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.720 Bob Villain clearly were a knee cap. Don't be started 335 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.480 on them, because you know, I've not got a great 336 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.400 relationship with Irish Republicans, so therefore. 337 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.359 I thought you were going to say, were your kneecaps. 338 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:27.839 My knees, were my knees, I'll be fighting. 339 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:33.279 Yeah, So talking talking of spending a lot of money 340 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.559 to go to a field, you're off to ground Swell. 341 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:35.960 I am. 342 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:39.839 I am off to ground Swell, which I have to say, 343 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:43.359 I think is a fascinating show. 344 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:45.039 Thank you. 345 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:49.039 I think that it's it's basically, for those who don't know, 346 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:55.279 ground Swell is the big regenerative farming show and it 347 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:59.880 has huge numbers selling. Okay, well, region farming is the 348 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:05.000 most important probably seed change step in farming of late 349 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:08.119 is people who are trying to go and farm more sustainably, 350 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:13.640 more environmentally friendly, just generally trying to go and farm 351 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:21.640 with nature better. And it's it starts in twenty sixteen, 352 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:25.079 relatively small, a lot of farmers just as you say, well, 353 00:20:25.079 --> 00:20:28.359 it's basically hobby farmers or hobby or farmers in sandals 354 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.400 and that sort of thing. As all the hippies go there, 355 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:34.039 and it's now it's a very big event of which 356 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.279 all the big boys go to and there's lots of talks. Yes, 357 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.799 there's a lot of snake oil salesman saying, O would 358 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.640 just add this sort of essence of seaweed to your 359 00:20:42.680 --> 00:20:46.359 field and your yield will go up. Or just plant 360 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.640 nut trees everywhere. Don't worry, I won't get in the 361 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:50.759 way of the combine harvest. But no, I think it's 362 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:52.640 fascinating that. So I'm going to be talking there in 363 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:59.000 the bookworm stand tent on Thursday. So I've already have 364 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.799 spoken by the time you listen to this, talking about 365 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:05.880 hedgerows and surprise price and my book surprise price. 366 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:10.039 But no, it would be goodlet's it about hell, we. 367 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.839 Already done that one. We will have done that one. Yeah, 368 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:14.119 So I think it's I think it's gonna be a 369 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.279 good show. And I guess it's like, you know what 370 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:22.079 the game fair is for people who have some semblance 371 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:27.680 of interest in in in the countryside. This is very 372 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:30.440 much for people who've got a semblance of interest in farming. 373 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:32.880 It's not cheap to go, but it has lots of 374 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:38.759 very interesting talkers, guest sort of lecturers who will go 375 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:43.519 and talk through their stuff. What they do this is, 376 00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:45.440 this is how I did this, and this is how 377 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:48.000 it works. You could try this on your soil, YadA 378 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:51.119 YadA ya. Yeah, I think on the whole. I give 379 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:54.240 it a eight and a half out of ten as 380 00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:56.839 a place that's worth visiting once. If you're a real 381 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.160 saddo like me and really into this stuff, I think 382 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:01.920 it's a it's a thing to go to every year. 383 00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:05.160 Eight out of ten on the places you'd go to 384 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:08.200 visit once scales. 385 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.759 No, no, No, eight and a half. I said out 386 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:13.839 of ten that you ought to go to once in 387 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.240 your life. It's one of those things that if you 388 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.279 only go once and take it for what it is, 389 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.880 you know it's there to teach you, to show you 390 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:28.319 how you can do this, and there's no point going 391 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.359 and sort of not going because even if you save 392 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.519 you're a very traditionalist farmer and you say, now I'm 393 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.599 not going to go and get rid of my plow, 394 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:39.599 Well go and see all these other guys going and 395 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:42.079 see what the alternatives are. And if you are one 396 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:46.680 of these anti anti farming sort of types, you need 397 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:48.880 to go there and need to see what people are doing. 398 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:52.680 And if you're a staunch environmentalist who believes you know 399 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.599 the work at the end of the world is nigh, 400 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:56.599 well let's go and see. And then you want to 401 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.640