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<v Speaker 1>It's night side with Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a second, Nicole, what a holiday are we talking

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<v Speaker 2>about here? You and I are both working today.

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<v Speaker 3>Just because it's not a holiday for us doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a holiday for somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, yeah, there's probably like holiday every day around

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the case National Girl Cheese Day. I'm requesting that off.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but this is probably like a holiday in Tanzania

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't celebrate. But it's not a holiday for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's I don't know. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that at nine o'clock. Okay, we're going to ask if

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<v Speaker 2>people did celebrate today and what holiday did they celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, And then how about these pesky panthers, Nicole?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I mean, you know, this is ruining my

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<v Speaker 2>winter and it's pretty early.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, started you don't let this get

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<v Speaker 3>you die.

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<v Speaker 2>Early in that, but this is this is scary, This

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<v Speaker 2>is scary. I was convinced this was the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well let's not, you know, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>We feel like I have to say that for every

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<v Speaker 3>New England sport early in the first couple months, like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's not get ahead of ourselves. Then it comes to playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we can panic. Do me a faye. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>when it's when it's time to panic, will you let me.

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<v Speaker 3>Know as soon as I found as soon as I

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<v Speaker 3>find out.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as you just let me know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to like appeer to panic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we can enter panic all we want,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just we don't want to scare everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Good good goods. Okay, that's a good that. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>prudent position to take, thank you against these pesky panthers.

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers very illiterative there the position. Yes, thanks Nicole, have

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<v Speaker 2>a good show, right, Thanks, good evening everyone, And I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you had a good holiday, whatever holiday you celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that at nine o'clock tonight, and then

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<v Speaker 2>later on tonight we're going to talk about the hotel

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<v Speaker 2>workers strike here in the in the Greater Boston area.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's going to be very interesting to understand, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>because all the stories I've read have not specified what

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<v Speaker 2>is at stake. I mean, obviously the workers on and

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<v Speaker 2>strike more pay and better pension and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'd love to know what situations they find themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in and let's get some of this out on the table,

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<v Speaker 2>because I suspect that the more information we have, the

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<v Speaker 2>better off we will be. But first, first, let me

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<v Speaker 2>introduce myself. I'm Dan Ray. I'm the host of ninth

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<v Speaker 2>Side right here on WBC entitled Nightside with Dan Ray,

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<v Speaker 2>very appropriately entitled. And this is a program that is

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<v Speaker 2>on a holiday, but it's not a holiday special, so

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<v Speaker 2>let's make that clear. Rob Brooks is also not on holiday.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob is working today, so Rob, my condolences that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to work on a holiday, even though it's really

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<v Speaker 2>not a holiday, it should be a holiday in some

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<v Speaker 2>form of fashion. We'll talk about that at nine. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to start off with our first hour tonight, which

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<v Speaker 2>there were no phone calls in the first hour. I

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<v Speaker 2>remind you of that. I need not remind regular listeners

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<v Speaker 2>of that. And we are going to go down south

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to talk with Sharon Hawa. She's the

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<v Speaker 2>senior manager of the Emergency Response a Best Friends Animal Society.

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<v Speaker 2>And there has been a two major hurricanes, Hurricane Helene

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<v Speaker 2>and then Hurricane Milton, and not only a people impact,

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<v Speaker 2>but people's pets are impacted. So Sharon, welcome to Night's

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<v Speaker 2>side tell us Best Friends Animal Society, you folks are located.

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<v Speaker 4>Where yes, hi, thank you for having me. We are

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<v Speaker 4>located in kannap Utah. But we've got Center's Pet resource

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<v Speaker 4>centers across the country and our staff is widespread across

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<v Speaker 4>the country. The work that we do is nationally focused

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<v Speaker 4>or a national organization that focuses on getting this country

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<v Speaker 4>to a no kill status with America Shelters by the

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<v Speaker 4>end of twenty twenty five. So we've been doing a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of work for the hurricanes right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's the problem that is from and Center

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. So what can people here in New

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<v Speaker 2>England do? Obviously, in New England we do a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of pet adoption from some of the southern states, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, there have been vans coming

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<v Speaker 2>have adopted pets, animals, dogs, cats. What can we in

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<v Speaker 2>New England do? I think I saw one story about

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<v Speaker 2>try to help out, just as we send electrical crews

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<v Speaker 2>from different parts of the country. What can we do

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<v Speaker 2>here in New England.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I think. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things that really does help with life

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<v Speaker 4>saving four pets is to foster and adopt from your

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<v Speaker 4>local shelters, because what that ends up doing is enabling

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<v Speaker 4>that shelter to raise their hands and say, hey, we've

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<v Speaker 4>got space. We can take some of those impacted animals

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<v Speaker 4>from those hurricane ravaged states. And that's where you see

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<v Speaker 4>the vans coming up with the animals because a group,

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<v Speaker 4>a rescue organization or a shelter organization was able to

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<v Speaker 4>make space. And that is largely in part due to

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<v Speaker 4>the public raising their hand and saying I can foster

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<v Speaker 4>or adopt to make that space. So when people foster

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<v Speaker 4>and adopt, they really are saving two lives, the animal's

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<v Speaker 4>life that they're bringing home, and they're also making space

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<v Speaker 4>for a new animal to come in from an area

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<v Speaker 4>where they may not be able to survive because of

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<v Speaker 4>hurricanes and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm very proud to say that my daughter a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago adopted from an animal shelter here in the

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<v Speaker 2>Greater Boston area Situate Animal Shelter, a beautiful, quirky dog

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<v Speaker 2>named Mustard, and all of my closest personal friends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I count my five best friends on my right hand,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mustard's right there along with Willi the dog, which

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<v Speaker 2>is another family member. So we we love dogs and

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<v Speaker 2>shelter dogs. And I suspect that there's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pets, you know, all sorts of pets

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<v Speaker 2>coming up from the South, particularly after I mean, when

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<v Speaker 2>this storm hit, it had to have tremendous impact not

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<v Speaker 2>only on families, but also in the family pets, which

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<v Speaker 2>is members of the family. Anyone who has a dog

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<v Speaker 2>understands what I'm talking about. If you don't have a dog,

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<v Speaker 2>get a dog, so you can understand that that canine

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<v Speaker 2>becomes a member of your family. Not a member of

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<v Speaker 2>your extended family, but a member of your family. Are

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<v Speaker 2>there ways that folks can help out your organization or

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<v Speaker 2>is there any sort of a fund that is intended

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<v Speaker 2>to help out pets in North Carolina? We support here

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside of a program called Shadow the Shadow Fund, the

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<v Speaker 2>Shadow Fund in even Northeast, which is an incredible program

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<v Speaker 2>that provides veterinary care for peoples pets up here when

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<v Speaker 2>the owner does not have sufficient funds to provide vetinary cures.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people up here who have to make

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<v Speaker 2>tough decisions between rent, food or or vegetan treatment for

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<v Speaker 2>their pets. So you're you're in a pet friendly territory here.

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<v Speaker 2>What more can we do to help? Let us know,

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<v Speaker 2>share and tell us what can you do?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, we do have a fund set up

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<v Speaker 4>and all the money that we raise goes to supporting

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<v Speaker 4>this disaster and future disasters because we are in the

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<v Speaker 4>height of hurricane season. So this certainly isn't going to

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<v Speaker 4>be the only hurricane. I hope so, but this isn't

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the only one left. But yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you go to best Runds dot org, you can

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<v Speaker 4>follow the work that we're doing with Hurricane Helene and

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<v Speaker 4>Hurricane Milton on our web page and there's some links

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<v Speaker 4>to go donate if you're interested. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people that are displaced right now with their pets.

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<v Speaker 4>They've been displaced since Selene, so Melton was just the

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<v Speaker 4>double whammy that kept them displaced. And you know, right now,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just about what kind of long term recovery it's

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<v Speaker 4>a state going to make available to them, and is

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<v Speaker 4>that recovery going to be inclusive of their pets? Because

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<v Speaker 4>oftentimes it doesn't always include their pets, whatever housing they

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<v Speaker 4>go to. So it's really about advocating as well for

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<v Speaker 4>these individuals so they have somewhere to go with their

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<v Speaker 2>They absolutely are. Hopefully. The one good thing about these

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<v Speaker 2>hurricanes is that as bad as it was in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was really bad, the second hurricane was not

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<v Speaker 2>as bad as had been predicted. I mean, the first

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<v Speaker 2>hurricane was horrible, and they were suggesting it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be worse. And also I don't think North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>get hit with this. Well, Milton just went across the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Florida and exited into the Atlantic Ocean, which

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<v Speaker 2>was also you know, a blessing. So hopefully, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess icond say it could have been worse and if

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<v Speaker 2>Milton followed the path of Helene. But nonetheless, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of damage done to a lot of states, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>So whatever people could do, Bestfriends dot Org, Sharon, I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining us tonight

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<v Speaker 2>to highlight the need and the program that will help

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, thank you so much, and thanks to everybody in

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<v Speaker 6>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>We love animals. We love pets here in New England

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<v Speaker 2>family pets. Thanks Sharon, appreciate it. When we return, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk ask the question, the age old question,

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<v Speaker 2>is it healthy to quit social media? Well, since social

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<v Speaker 2>media has only been around about thirty years or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is is, it's a thirty year question. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor who says that if you limit your social

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<v Speaker 2>media you're quickly going to see some health benefits. That doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Tricia pas Richa, will join us. Pas Richa will

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<v Speaker 2>join us right after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from The Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So how much social media are you on? I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>way too much, But I use as an excuse and

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually a legitimate excuse. My job. That's what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to know what people want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>with me, is doctor Tricia pas Richa. She is the

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<v Speaker 2>Ask a Doctor columnist for the Washington Post, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>Boston based. You have the best of all worlds here

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<v Speaker 2>good afternoon or good evening. I should say, doctor pas Richa, how.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you, hi, Dan, It's great to be back, great

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<v Speaker 4>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on the show again, and I thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't understand why I spend so much time

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<v Speaker 2>on social media, part of which is my job. But

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait when I retire, I'm getting off social

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<v Speaker 2>media completely. How how healthy is it to get off

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<v Speaker 2>social media, or to put it in another way, how

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<v Speaker 2>unhealthy is it to spend half your life on social media?

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<v Speaker 6>Well it's a great question, you know, there's not a

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<v Speaker 6>straightforward answer, and I think the data, you know, in

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<v Speaker 6>of that is just because of how the studies they're done.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think intuitive where we all, all of us

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<v Speaker 6>have been some studies, one that came out of the

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<v Speaker 6>social media, for example, to ten minutes per day on

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<v Speaker 6>any given platform and in that study, for example, people sound.

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<v Speaker 6>The researchers found that within three weeks of limiting your

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<v Speaker 6>really tell them, well, how does social media make you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that social media is really the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 2>douging yourself, gouging your body with junk food. There's very

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<v Speaker 6>I think this is why it's a little bit hard

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<v Speaker 6>are some areas, and there have been some studies to

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<v Speaker 6>that would be people who find forgeable social support groups

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<v Speaker 6>they might have difficulty finding those kinds of communities in

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<v Speaker 6>real life. So here have been some studies about support

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<v Speaker 6>groups that you can find on social media for breastfeeding women,

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<v Speaker 6>for example, and how kind of affirming that can be

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<v Speaker 6>to talk to other women who are going through the

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<v Speaker 6>I think there can be a lot of benefit to it.

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<v Speaker 6>I usually tell my patients this is something I've done myself.

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<v Speaker 6>Just do an experiment where you take a break, you

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<v Speaker 6>two weeks, go off entirely, and at the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the two weeks, just pause and say how do I feel?

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<v Speaker 6>Do I feel better? Do I feel worse? Do I

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<v Speaker 6>many people I've told this too, and once again I've

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<v Speaker 6>much better after two weeks that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of analogize it. And I'm not a doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>have to see those concials. People who are walking around

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<v Speaker 2>on the beach and they have these, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>magnet finders or whatever, and they're looking for diamond rings

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<v Speaker 2>and rare coins and they're walking up and down the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>They're getting a little bit of exercise, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they'll find like a beer can buried under

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<v Speaker 2>with all the social media that exists, that if there

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<v Speaker 2>you know, groups, if you're an LGBTQ teenager, or if

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<v Speaker 2>for a support group. But it's the other stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know. I don't know how you separate the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm a big sports guy. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I see something, you know, some I don't know, some

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<v Speaker 2>funny baseball play, you know, with the guy's running the

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<v Speaker 2>and his beer a mug, whatever, then you just you

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<v Speaker 2>get seduced. What's the next one? Oh, the next one

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<v Speaker 2>the fence, you know, and all of a sudden you say,

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<v Speaker 6>I think you're exactly right. I had a conversation with

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<v Speaker 6>the US Surgeon General, doctor Vivic Morphy about this because,

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<v Speaker 2>I chat about that all the time, only kidding the

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<v Speaker 2>search in General's name on me go ahead, I'm ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>But he and he, yeah, he's wonderful, he and he

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<v Speaker 6>one of the things he said to your point is

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<v Speaker 6>that he made this comparison which I thought was was

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<v Speaker 6>really appropriate, which was that social media can be like

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<v Speaker 6>trying to separate mold out of yogurt. Like you might

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<v Speaker 6>just want to eat a bold of yogurt, but if

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<v Speaker 6>it's covered in mold, you might say, let me just

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<v Speaker 7>But the problem is, I'm going to go find a

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 6>If you find out I had molded it, you would

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<v Speaker 6>the good stuff. And I think it's the same with

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<v Speaker 6>social media. And that's it, and that's his analogy, not mine,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think it's it's totally appropriate that it's it's hard.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of people leave social media feeling more upset

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<v Speaker 6>and affirmed, and that's the problem. And you know, not

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<v Speaker 6>only that it takes away from people's sleep, it takes

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<v Speaker 6>away from meaningful in person interaction or your work or

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<v Speaker 6>up and you're doing it for hours and hours every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure that when every new invention came along,

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<v Speaker 2>people said all the cards and that automobile thing's never

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<v Speaker 2>gonna last. I'm sticking with my horse and buggy, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the morning before we roll into town. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't see the value. You talk about all the sex

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<v Speaker 2>trafficking that now goes on there. You know, whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to find, whether it's good, bad, or indifferent. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a dictionary here. It's actually a dictionary, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's amazing and has all these words in it that

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<v Speaker 2>you can look up. I don't have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>social media to look up words in a dictionary. Seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the book. It's called Webster's Dictionary. And I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't it's it's a losing battle. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's just a losing battle, and I think a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people get lost in it. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a morass. I guess it's it's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a real life it's like what a corn maze is

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<v Speaker 2>can get in a corn maze. Even if you get

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the corn maze, you can call the main

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<v Speaker 2>number and they'll come and find you. We have calling

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<v Speaker 2>con mazes in New England, you know what I mean

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<v Speaker 2>by that. But if you get lost in social media,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you call? Well?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think we're all living this big if

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<v Speaker 6>you will, social experiment right now as we are gathering

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<v Speaker 6>I think we don't know yet exactly what is the

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<v Speaker 6>best way to use social media. Who are the people

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<v Speaker 6>who will benefit the most? And I think you're right that,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like, we're probably never going back as a country,

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<v Speaker 6>as a world to what it was like before social media.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't think that means that we won't reach

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<v Speaker 6>a place where we do harness the ways to really

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<v Speaker 6>extract more of that benefit and less as a harm.

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<v Speaker 6>But we're just not there yet because we haven't studied

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<v Speaker 6>it long enough. And you might say, okay, well, social media,

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<v Speaker 6>it's been around, you know, Nick, you mentioned thirty years.

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<v Speaker 6>Facebook came out in two thousand and four. But the

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<v Speaker 6>fact of the matter is we haven't been collecting data

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<v Speaker 6>as long as we should If you look at the

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<v Speaker 6>studies out there, they're small. Most of the social media

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<v Speaker 6>companies Meta x, onmly, Twitter, they haven't released all of

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<v Speaker 6>the health outcomes and data that they actually have and

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<v Speaker 6>they've been keeping over the years. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that the Surgeon General has been really calling for

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<v Speaker 6>is to try to use that data to understand how

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<v Speaker 6>we can make it better. And once we know that,

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<v Speaker 6>we can kind of enforce the right kinds of regulations.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's going to take time, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>take a little bit of lobbying of the companies in

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then then gets it into another dangerous area

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<v Speaker 2>where all of a sudden, the government is regulating social media.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want them regulating radio stations they are regularly,

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<v Speaker 2>but newspapers. I mean, I think of social media sort

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<v Speaker 2>of as a newspaper. I think they should take that

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<v Speaker 2>protection that social media has gotten from Congress as a gift,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can't be they can't be sued for imperfect

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<v Speaker 2>information or bad information that they circulate. They have that exemption.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost like an anti trust exemption. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>should be taken away, and I think maybe a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>then the junk that's on social media would disappear. Doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>I very much appreciate you taking the time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't realize you were based here in Boston. By congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>on that, and we'll talk with you soon. I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy our conversation, doctor Tricia hush Richa, thanks.

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<v Speaker 6>Again, thanks so much for having me. Take care of me.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back. When we talk about the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four Special Olympics New Hampshire State Golf Tournament coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess tomorrow at the Owls Nest Resort in Thornton,

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire. We're going to talk with Mark Eric right

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<v Speaker 2>after this. This will be a great one coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think everyone who listens to this program is

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of Special Olympics, and I believe it's tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>The twenty twenty four Special Olympics New Hampshire State Golf

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<v Speaker 2>Tournament takes place at Owl's Nest Resort in Thornton, New Hampshire,

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<v Speaker 2>with us Mark Erickson, he's the multi media manager for

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<v Speaker 2>Special Olympics New Hampshire. Tell us about this event. This

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<v Speaker 2>is not the first year. As I understand that you've

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<v Speaker 2>done this golf tournament, tell us about it, Mark, who's eligible?

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<v Speaker 2>Who plays? And I hope the weather forecast is good

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<v Speaker 5>Good evening, Dan, thanks for having us on. And right

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<v Speaker 5>now the weather forecast is looking to be pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 5>decent for Thornton for tomorrow. It is our state golf

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<v Speaker 5>tournament the Owls Nest Resort. And I'll I'll clarify this

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<v Speaker 5>upfront and tell you I'm not a golfer, but I

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<v Speaker 5>am the guy that goes and takes a video and

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<v Speaker 5>pictures and things. It is just an absolute beautiful, beautiful

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<v Speaker 5>golf facility in Thornton, New Hampshire. And we will have

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and eighteen golfers on the links there tomorrow

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<v Speaker 5>all day long. And these are Special Olympics athletes and

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<v Speaker 5>in some cases unified partners. We pair up individuals with

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<v Speaker 5>and without intellectual disabilities in the school systems and they

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<v Speaker 5>partner up and they compete and play and hang out

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<v Speaker 5>and enjoy each other's company. So we'll have one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and eighteen golfers at the state golf Tournament at Owl's

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<v Speaker 5>Nest tomorrow Harlan Electric is our is our big presenting sponsor,

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<v Speaker 5>and we thank them so much for that, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>hoping for an absolute great day of golf.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like thirty foursomes. If I'm not mistaken, I'm doing

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<v Speaker 2>the math there. I think it would be thirty foursomes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you that's a lot of golfers. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of golfers.

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<v Speaker 6>Get all through.

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<v Speaker 2>What time do you start, how early do you start

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<v Speaker 2>and when do you finish out?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we'll start to write it around eight am. And

437
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<v Speaker 5>the way that the day is going to be set

438
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<v Speaker 5>up is we've got unified alternate shot team play in

439
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<v Speaker 5>five hole, nine hole, and eighteen holes, and then we

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<v Speaker 5>have some eighteen hole games as well. Part of what

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<v Speaker 5>makes this go, the biggest part of what makes this go, honestly,

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<v Speaker 5>is our wonderful group of volunteers. They come from all

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<v Speaker 5>corners of the state and they organize all the chaos

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<v Speaker 5>and into something that is cohesive and competitive and the

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<v Speaker 5>level of competition that our athletes really deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Now refresh my recollection. I think I know where Thornton,

447
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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire is, but I'm not exactly sure. Can you

448
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<v Speaker 2>locate it for me precisely for our audience in case

449
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<v Speaker 2>someone wants to come and I assume you can't just

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<v Speaker 2>show up and participate by the people who come and

451
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<v Speaker 2>support it and maybe make a contribution right there or

452
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<v Speaker 2>of the watch some of the golf.

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<v Speaker 5>I assume, well, sure, we would love to have you

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<v Speaker 5>cheering our athletes on. Uh Forrton is it's north? It's

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<v Speaker 5>a it's a bit of a hike. Uh, it's in

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<v Speaker 5>It's in Grafton County, New Hampshire, if that if that

457
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<v Speaker 5>helps you out, Uh sort of is.

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<v Speaker 2>It a let me ask you? This is my Is

459
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<v Speaker 2>it above the Mount Washington Hotel going north?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would be how far from the Canadian border?

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<v Speaker 5>It's you know what it's Uh, it's uh, it's ahead

463
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<v Speaker 5>of the Woodstock and Lincoln however, so it's between Plymouth

464
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<v Speaker 5>and Woodstock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Plymouth, you're and it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Ninety three you get you there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that's well, that's exactly what I was using

468
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<v Speaker 2>to get over to Mount Washington. Got hook a right

469
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<v Speaker 2>at some point and that swing over what's the age

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<v Speaker 2>range tomorrow? How young and how old?

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<v Speaker 5>Is?

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<v Speaker 2>This is obviously uh a tournament that's going to involve

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<v Speaker 2>a wide variety of people. I assume, I assume with

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<v Speaker 2>the various talents and and abilities.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Special Olympics athletes start with the regular Special Olympics

476
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<v Speaker 5>program at age eight, and then there is no upper

477
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<v Speaker 5>age limit. We have athletes that are in their forties

478
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<v Speaker 5>and fifties and even a couple in their sixties that

479
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<v Speaker 5>have been with this program for years and years and

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<v Speaker 5>years prior to age eight. We have what's called a

481
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<v Speaker 5>Young Athlete program, and that's for youngsters between the ages

482
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<v Speaker 5>of two and seven, and that sort of gets them

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<v Speaker 5>prepared for Special Olympics at age eight with just some

484
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<v Speaker 5>life skills and people's skills and having fun and getting

485
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<v Speaker 5>to know one another.

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<v Speaker 2>And how many years have you been running this event?

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<v Speaker 2>This is not your first rodeo? Isome? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, no, no, the State Golf Tournament's been around,

489
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<v Speaker 5>you know, the history of it predates me, but I've

490
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<v Speaker 5>got to believe it's been twelve or fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's great. And what does the day include? Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>all the golf activity, and is there some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>an awards event at the cost?

494
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, well we'll have awards. Well, we'll have lunch

495
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<v Speaker 5>for everyone, and in between and for down times, we'll

496
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<v Speaker 5>we'll have a few other activities going on. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>before we wrap up the day, there'll be many gold

498
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<v Speaker 5>and silver and bronze medals handed out to our athletes

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<v Speaker 5>and their unified partners, and we're looking forward to a great,

500
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<v Speaker 5>great day tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>So you see, they go for the gold eighteen holes,

502
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<v Speaker 2>nine holes, five holes, and then individual skills competition. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry you must have this sounds like always a great

504
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<v Speaker 2>day for anyone who's a golfer. But I assume you

505
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<v Speaker 2>got some putting competitions and things like that where everybody

506
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<v Speaker 2>can participate. They don't have to be hitting the ball

507
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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and ten yards off the first tee.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, nothing, nothing like that. We are all

509
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<v Speaker 5>about being inclusive all the way around, and we make

510
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<v Speaker 5>sure that everyone has, as we like to say, the

511
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<v Speaker 5>competition and the day that our athletes deserve. And again

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<v Speaker 5>we have our wonderful volunteers to thank for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. Well, look, Mark, I really appreciate you joining

514
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<v Speaker 2>us tonight. I hope everyone has a great day tomorrow

515
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<v Speaker 2>and they fulfill the dreams. This has to be a

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<v Speaker 2>special day for a very special program, special Olympics of

517
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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire in Thoughton, New Hampshire at the Owls Nest Resort.

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<v Speaker 2>Wish you all the best of luck tomorrow and I

519
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<v Speaker 2>hope everyone has a memorable day. I'm sure there'll be

520
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<v Speaker 2>plenty of camaraderie and a lot of fun for everyone,

521
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<v Speaker 2>the participants and also I'm sure family members will be

522
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<v Speaker 2>there to cheer them on, and oh yeah, a few

523
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<v Speaker 2>speculators as well. It's going to be just a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much. Is there a way people can get

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<v Speaker 2>more information on Special Olympics New Hampshire. I see you

526
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<v Speaker 2>have a pretty simple website special so for Special Olympics

527
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<v Speaker 2>NH dot org. Is that the best way?

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<v Speaker 5>So O nh dot org has all things Special Olympics

529
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<v Speaker 5>New Hampshire. And we'll also let everyone know that we've

530
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<v Speaker 5>just unleashed a new fundraiser online and say pick your prize,

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<v Speaker 5>rapple the grand prize and that is a three passenger

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<v Speaker 5>c do jet ski. So if you want an information

533
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<v Speaker 5>about fundraisers or the state golf tournament or anything else,

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<v Speaker 5>it's so O n H dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect, just perfect. You hit it perfectly for us. Hit

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<v Speaker 2>him straight tomorrow too, Mark, Thanks very much. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your time tonight. Thanks thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Dan, have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet your best. I look to all the participants

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<v Speaker 2>in these New Hampshire Special Olympics twenty twenty four State

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<v Speaker 2>golf tournament. We get back. We're going to talk about

542
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<v Speaker 2>another athlete new to Boston, but he made quite a debut,

543
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<v Speaker 2>well really a starting debut yesterday. Drake May the new

544
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<v Speaker 2>star quarterback for the New England Patriots. They were dressed

545
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<v Speaker 2>out in their throwback garb. Dan Shaughnessy, Boston Globe sports writer,

546
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<v Speaker 2>will weigh in with us right after this break on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

548
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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>With us now Boston Globe sportswriter Dan Shaughnessy, great friend

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly a participant in this program periodically. Hey Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks very much for joining us tonight. You had a

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<v Speaker 2>a one story that began in the Boston Globe today

553
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<v Speaker 2>thanks to Drake May, there's finally a reason to watch

554
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<v Speaker 2>these Patriots. Not a bad performance by the quarterback yesterday.

555
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<v Speaker 2>The defense left a little bit little to be desired,

556
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit to be desired. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Okay, Dan, how are you.

558
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<v Speaker 2>Doing it well? As always? You know, his numbers last

559
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<v Speaker 2>night were yesterday afternoon, we're pretty good. I mean, he

560
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<v Speaker 2>got sacked four times, which unfortunately is a problem any

561
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<v Speaker 2>Patriots quarterback would face. Give mcgrade for his first time out.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen more than a few of these Patriots games,

563
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure that you were there for Mac Jones'

564
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<v Speaker 2>opening performance and maybe Tom Brady's opening performance back in

565
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<v Speaker 2>the day.

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<v Speaker 8>He I mean, you know, he put twenty one points

567
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<v Speaker 8>on the board, the most they've had all season. He

568
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<v Speaker 8>had three touchdown passes. They only had two in the

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<v Speaker 8>first five games, so those things are certainly in his favor.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, on the other side, he turned the

571
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<v Speaker 8>ball over the team did four times, three of them

572
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<v Speaker 8>were on him, two interceptions and a fumble of his.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, one of the picks was deflected. The first

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<v Speaker 8>one was a bad throw high over the middle, which

575
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<v Speaker 8>you can't do in the NFL. So it was uneven.

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<v Speaker 8>But again for the first start in the NFL against

577
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<v Speaker 8>a pretty good defensive team and you know, five and

578
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<v Speaker 8>one team Houston Texans, I thought it was it was good.

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<v Speaker 8>It's weird to come out of a twenty point loss.

580
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<v Speaker 8>Feeling good, But the way the Patriots are at this

581
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<v Speaker 8>juncture of their situation, I think you have to say

582
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<v Speaker 8>that they're not going to be competitive, they're not going

583
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<v Speaker 8>to be a contender, they're not going to be in

584
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<v Speaker 8>a playoff hunt. So you look for what you can

585
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<v Speaker 8>and yesterday's game was far more entertaining, more fun to watch,

586
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<v Speaker 8>and it indicated that they might have found a guy

587
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<v Speaker 8>who can lead them into the future. So I thought

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<v Speaker 8>those were all pluses.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he looked better to me yesterday as a quarterback.

590
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<v Speaker 2>And you're a closer observer. I've watched a lot of

591
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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks for the Patriots, going back to Budsong and Babe

592
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<v Speaker 2>Perilli back in the day, all the way all the

593
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<v Speaker 2>way up through you know Mac Jones. Mac Jones, he

594
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<v Speaker 2>looked much more comfortable than any quarterback recently. A lot

595
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<v Speaker 2>of the other guys have kind of that happy feet

596
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<v Speaker 2>thing going on. I didn't feel he had that at all.

597
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<v Speaker 2>I thought he'd looked like a veteran quarterback for his

598
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<v Speaker 2>pois again not necessarily a Hall of Fame rating, as

599
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<v Speaker 2>your article points out today, How did he look compared

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<v Speaker 2>to other folks who you saw.

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<v Speaker 8>There first time, Well yeah, I think, you know, he's

602
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<v Speaker 8>twenty two years old. And then you know, going back

603
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<v Speaker 8>over the time, I mean I was in high school

604
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<v Speaker 8>and Jim Plunkett came in from Stanford, a Brose Bowl

605
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<v Speaker 8>winner and number one overall pick in the draft. And

606
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<v Speaker 8>Pluckett won his first game twenty to six over the Raiders.

607
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<v Speaker 8>But he had a very tough four years here. He

608
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<v Speaker 8>took a beating and it got worse and worse, and

609
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<v Speaker 8>they eventually traded them and he went on to Okland

610
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<v Speaker 8>and won two Super Bowls with the Raiders and was

611
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<v Speaker 8>MVP the Super Bowl with the Raiders. So that was,

612
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<v Speaker 8>you know, a long time ago. It's fifty years ago.

613
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<v Speaker 8>More recent, well not really recent, Drew, but so I

614
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<v Speaker 8>was at his first game. He was in Buffalo in

615
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<v Speaker 8>nineteen ninety three. Parcels was the new coach and he

616
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<v Speaker 8>was the number one overall pick. He was only twenty one,

617
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<v Speaker 8>and he was clearly ready to start playing in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 8>But that team went one and eleven out of the gate,

619
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<v Speaker 8>so he lost his open in Buffalo. But he was

620
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<v Speaker 8>clearly a Pro Bowl bound passer, and he had him

621
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<v Speaker 8>in the Super Bowl in four years, so that's pretty good,

622
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<v Speaker 8>and that was Drew Budsoe. So Mac Jones the most

623
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<v Speaker 8>recent he was first round pick number fifteen.

624
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<v Speaker 5>Overall, had a.

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<v Speaker 8>Pretty good first game and probably a little better than

626
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<v Speaker 8>what our guy had yesterday. But I think that I

627
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<v Speaker 8>don't feel he showed quite as much pocket presence, ability

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<v Speaker 8>to do things with his feet, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 8>avoid the rush. I thought that that may kind of

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<v Speaker 8>really showed those things that you look forward to down

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<v Speaker 8>the road. I thought it was a good showing overall.

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<v Speaker 8>Like I say, unusual to come away from a twenty

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<v Speaker 8>point loss feeling okay, but I kind of did yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was watching earlier in the morning. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you probably were as well, the Jacksonville Bears game and

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears and Caleb Williams just running away with Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Jacksonville looks like a team the Patriots might

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<v Speaker 2>be able to beat. But Matt Jones came in to

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<v Speaker 2>to clean up after Trevor Lawrence was done for the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just thought, I think the last pass that

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<v Speaker 2>I had seen Jones throw on television was that that

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<v Speaker 2>horrible interception in Germany, and you know, he came out

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<v Speaker 2>through one pass was got a completion. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>got sacked or you know it just obviously the Patriots are,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, are much better shape with Drake May than

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<v Speaker 2>they would have been if they hung on another year

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<v Speaker 2>with Mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, things are a lot of issues with the

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<v Speaker 8>offensive line. They didn't have stevenson Esay running the ball

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<v Speaker 8>out of the backfield, and you know, turned though over

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<v Speaker 8>four times, You're not going to win that game. You're

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<v Speaker 8>playing a really good team, a team that it's very

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<v Speaker 8>very staunched defensively. So that was a lot to ask,

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<v Speaker 8>But I thought overall it was it was a good showing.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think Jones, I don't know, he did take

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<v Speaker 8>them to the playoffs. I mean, it wasn't a disaster,

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<v Speaker 8>but it got a little bit worse each year, and

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of that was on them and the coaching

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<v Speaker 8>that he had over him and the chaos that was

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<v Speaker 8>going on in those final years under Belichick, and he

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<v Speaker 8>didn't have a lot of weapons to deal with and

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<v Speaker 8>needed as this guy. So you got issues all over

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<v Speaker 8>the place. But I think that in a excuse me,

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<v Speaker 8>a NFL of twenty twenty four with the rebuild and

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<v Speaker 8>you know, their position to do that now, and I

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<v Speaker 8>mean I kind of you put them up against Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 8>They're playing them London nine thirty on Sunday morning. I

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<v Speaker 8>like them a little bit more than Jacksonville that that's

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<v Speaker 8>a winnable game, as I think last week at home

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<v Speaker 8>with Miami would have been a winnable game if they

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<v Speaker 8>if they had had Drake may plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the schedule only gets tougher from here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I read the opening of the early line

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<v Speaker 2>on the London game as Jacksonville I think was a

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<v Speaker 2>six point favorite, which seemed to me to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little generous, but maybe.

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<v Speaker 8>Pretty good for one in five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think they're thinking that Lawrence has to

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a big game pretty quickly. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of pressure I think on the coach Peterson. I

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<v Speaker 2>think might have to fly home alone if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>win at Webley Stadium next Saturday, next Sunday morning. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be an interesting game to watch, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing. Yesterday was interesting, and as long as

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots keep it interesting, they'll keep our attention for

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<v Speaker 2>the ballast of this season. I just don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see him get blown out by some of the really

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<v Speaker 2>good teams. That's what yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's been a tough watch. And like you said,

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<v Speaker 8>the interesting part of it to me is even in

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<v Speaker 8>the twenty point loss, it was more fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 8>He just saw some stuff. I mean the first half,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the end of the first half and he

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<v Speaker 8>throws the forty yarder into the bucket and that was

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<v Speaker 8>the best play they've had all year, and it was

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<v Speaker 8>just electric. Cut the lead to fourteen to seven. At

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<v Speaker 8>the half, they're getting the ball. Second half, you're thinking, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>they could win this game. So those were good signs.

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<v Speaker 8>And that was a good moment in the game. And

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<v Speaker 8>he was able to do things with his legs and

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<v Speaker 8>throwing the run, throw across his body, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>there was some unfortunate things. It was uneven, but I

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<v Speaker 8>think overall it's a win in terms of looking at

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<v Speaker 8>the big picture, which is what they're doing right now

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<v Speaker 8>down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so here's the big question. Do you get to

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<v Speaker 2>go to London next week for the game? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be watching?

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<v Speaker 8>I opted not to. I would get to go if

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<v Speaker 8>I chose to it. No, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>A wise decision, trust me, A wise decision. Dan Shaughnessy

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<v Speaker 2>is always thank you, my friend. Always great to have

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<v Speaker 2>you on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks so much, Dan, Thanks Dan, take care all right.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back today. It was a holiday, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a federal holiday, it was a state holiday. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working. Rob is working. We're going to find out

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<v Speaker 2>if you celebrated a holiday today and which one did

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<v Speaker 2>you celebrate. We're going to be talking with the state

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<v Speaker 2>representative from Winthrop, our state representative, Jeff Turco, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>open those phone lines up right after the nine o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 2>My name's Dan Ray. This is Night Side on a

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night, a holiday, Monday night.