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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Shonny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy news. Ope you had a good Christmas. Crack

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<v Speaker 1>dot com did a really fantastic interview with Anthony Jessenick,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are curious about the character he portrays on

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<v Speaker 1>stage and asked him does the character have a backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>Jess Nic said, I have no backstory villain. I love.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know what's happening here, We don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>their problem is. My character was like the Devil's Son,

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<v Speaker 1>where there's no motivation other than just being evil. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get into here's my upbringing. If I

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<v Speaker 1>had a better babysitter, and maybe I wouldn't be like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted none of that because that stuff always sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know why I'm like this. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to know, and I love that. I'm very interested in

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<v Speaker 1>villains and what makes someone a good villain. A lack

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<v Speaker 1>of an origin story is always preferable to me. Yeah. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Trevor Batman movie, Dark Knight. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>just called the Dark Knight? The second one where the

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<v Speaker 1>Joker tells a different origin story every time? Fascinating jess

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<v Speaker 1>Nick said, every New Hour, I can resurrect everyone. The

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<v Speaker 1>mom dies in the last bushl she's back alive. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've got five brothers and sisters, and now I've got one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm an only child. The audience doesn't care. They

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<v Speaker 1>recognize me, but they're just in it for the story.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really matter what's true and what's not. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't write a whole New Hour until the special

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<v Speaker 1>hits because I don't want any of that old stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in my head. I don't want to think about the

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<v Speaker 1>grandma killed or the grandma who's still alive. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>go from scratch and do it that way. Cracked again

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<v Speaker 1>doing a great job, asked him, are there any parts

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<v Speaker 1>of you that are actually hidden in the jokes? Or are

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<v Speaker 1>we hearing about your personal life? J just nug said

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. Really. Maybe in terms of my morality,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can probably get a sense of what

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<v Speaker 1>I think about the trans issue. I think you get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of what I think about pro choice or

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<v Speaker 1>pro life. I think you can get a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>what I think about cancel culture. But otherwise, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like I feel like I need to hide something.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listen to my podcast, you get all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are fans at different levels. Oh I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know him. I have people come up after the

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<v Speaker 1>show and they're like, can I meet Anthony, And my

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<v Speaker 1>tour manager will say, sorry, he doesn't meet people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, yeah, I know he hates people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll walk off. And I kind of got in the

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<v Speaker 1>reputation of my fans that if they're a good fan,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to leave me alone. They'll come by and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that was really funny. I don't want to bother you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want my personal life, you can find that

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<v Speaker 1>through the podcast. But I think personal stories on stage

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<v Speaker 1>and stand up for boring. Unless you have some amazing story,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear it. I don't think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it becomes the same, and my stories would

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<v Speaker 1>be the same. I'm not special. I'd rather have something

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<v Speaker 1>more creative on stage. Follow up from Cracked, You're never

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<v Speaker 1>tempted to get more personal as you get older. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tempted because it's so much easier. I try it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get sick of the story. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it is easier. I'm meeting up ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>But why I didn't only not tell stories in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning because I didn't have much to talk about. It

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<v Speaker 1>is because I was bored telling the same story. Another

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<v Speaker 1>good follow up, Will you'd toured this material for two years,

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<v Speaker 1>What are these jokes never get boring? I gotta think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because they're short. The jokes are very short, and

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<v Speaker 1>the payoff, it's not just the payoff for the audience,

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<v Speaker 1>it's to pay off for me. I like those laughs.

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<v Speaker 1>I like those bursts of energy. If I'm telling a story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like I'm bombing, but it's just that there's

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes without a laugh, I start to feel anxious,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't like feeling anxious. I don't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have those hits, which is why the

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<v Speaker 1>stories that I do have are just joke joke, joke,

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<v Speaker 1>joke joke, because I don't want to have that explanation period.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if the audience is locked in on a

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<v Speaker 1>long story, we love this and we're just focused on you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not comfortable. I'd rather have the laughs. Maybe at

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<v Speaker 1>some point I come up with a story that I

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy enough that I'll be like that, but I've tried it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why people want it from me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also understand why it's better that I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of people who do. Texas Standards spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>shang Wang, one of my faves. He said, as a toddler,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a reputation for slamming my head into the

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<v Speaker 1>ground when things didn't go my way. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>explains everything up until now. I'm originally from Texas. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in Houston. I went to the same middle

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<v Speaker 1>school as Beyonce. That's crazy, right, Beyonce alone is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big deal. But then you find out Shang Wang also

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<v Speaker 1>came from the same part of town. It's like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of talent. Most have been something in

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<v Speaker 1>the water y'all. The Standard asked what his parents think

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<v Speaker 1>of his success, and he said, I think they're proud

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<v Speaker 1>of me. I'm really grateful. Follow up, they haven't told

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<v Speaker 1>you not in so many words. You know, Asian American

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<v Speaker 1>parents or Asian parents tend to be pretty stoic when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to expressing affection or things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I'm grateful for my parents. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they're very loving folks. I feel like my folks

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<v Speaker 1>are very much hands off in a way that was like,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you're not getting into trouble and you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing well in school, you can do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't against me doing what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>They would sometimes my mom especially suggest alternatives to stand

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<v Speaker 1>up That is sort of related. She's like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on TV, maybe be a news reporter

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<v Speaker 1>or something. You know. I guess she was inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>Connie Chung. But yeah, they were pretty hands off and

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<v Speaker 1>not pushing one way or the other. Jim Gaffian spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to The La Times about touring with Jerry Seinfeld and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I never had an expectation that that would happen. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>has a very clear and concisive view and philosophy on

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<v Speaker 1>stand up comedy. Then when you talk to him, you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're talking in Aristotle. He's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a stoic who reminds you to have control of your material.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get caught up in the trend of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>You work on evolving your act in your writing. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Leno and Adam Carolla are doing a comedy Fantasy camp.

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<v Speaker 1>In January. Jay was asked about stand up comedy being

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<v Speaker 1>Ai prove Jay said, you know, it's the one form

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<v Speaker 1>of entertainment that's not changed, with the exception of the

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<v Speaker 1>invention of the microphone. It's been the same since the

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth century. You stand in the town square, you just

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<v Speaker 1>yell and say things, or do physical comedy, juggle or

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<v Speaker 1>do something. But it really hasn't changed at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>I find a lot more made of political correctness. Funny's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you have something you know. Nicki Glazer

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<v Speaker 1>is a good example. Couldn't be filthier but hilarious, and

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff is so funny you have to laugh. She

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<v Speaker 1>was the best that that Tom Brady roast. Everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>was just using obscenities. I'm thinking, I'm getting bored of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she came out and I laughed really out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really really good jokes. So that's the case

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<v Speaker 1>of if you're funny, all bets are off. Eleno and

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<v Speaker 1>Corolla were asked about a comedy renaissance. Corola said, we're there,

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<v Speaker 1>Leno said, A young comic said to me and Seinfeld,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are lucky you started when comedy was easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't easy. It's always been exactly the same. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>how old I am. You remember cabaret cards, Corola says, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Leno says, in New York that's how they got Lenny Bruce.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a license to perform in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on stage and you say the F word

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<v Speaker 1>or something, a cop can come up and tear up

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<v Speaker 1>your license, and boom, you don't work. When the Warren

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<v Speaker 1>Cord came out in sixty eight or sixty nine, boy

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<v Speaker 1>Jay is old, all that went out the windows. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 1>pornography was legal, comedy was interpretive, but all that was

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<v Speaker 1>against the law. If you said obscenity, a cop would

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<v Speaker 1>And people think, oh, it's so terrible now, it was

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<v Speaker 1>way worse back then. The thing is now is actually

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<v Speaker 1>better for comics because music is expensive to do. You

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<v Speaker 1>have teams to load in, load out, put up a stage,

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<v Speaker 1>set up the sound system. A comedian. You just show up,

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<v Speaker 1>Corolla said, every time I play a theater and see

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<v Speaker 1>the posters like Santana was here eight years ago in

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<v Speaker 1>the percussion section is fourteen dudes, and you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it and you go, well, I just sold out a

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<v Speaker 1>show and they sold out a show. How is this

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<v Speaker 1>working here? The thing that's funny, though, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>theater wants to know if you want to come by

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<v Speaker 1>that afternoon for a mic check, like you're in Santana

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<v Speaker 1>new topic, Leno said. People say to me, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you wish you were doing the Tonight Show when

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was president. No, I don't, because when you really

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<v Speaker 1>don't like a guy, it's worse. I had a fondness

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<v Speaker 1>for Bush. He then pantomimed set up for a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think President Bush quite understands and people would

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<v Speaker 1>giggle him laugh. But if I really hate it him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see how polarizing it gets. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>sort of blamed Trump for all that because at the

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight Show we used to make fun of both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>and people couldn't really figure out your politics, so you

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<v Speaker 1>got the whole audience. Now you either get the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>people like Gutfeld, or you get the anti Trump people

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<v Speaker 1>like Kimmel, which to me, I'll take everybody's money, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I play both crowds. Brandy Denise is one of vultures

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<v Speaker 1>and comedians you should and will know, Vulture asked at

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<v Speaker 1>Brandy Denise, how you've ended up becoming a comedian, Brandy said,

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<v Speaker 1>gering up, I discovered some of Adam Sandler's old comedy songs,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy said, I never knew I was listening to a

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<v Speaker 1>form of comedy, but I love them. Yeah. Right, she's

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<v Speaker 1>saying it right there. She was listening to it and

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<v Speaker 1>not realizing it was comedy because they're terrible. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I kept a notebook where I began to

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<v Speaker 1>write my own comedy parodies. I think it was then

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<v Speaker 1>when I first began my journey with enjoying being funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Whose career would you like to follow? Want of psychs.

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<v Speaker 1>She's had her own TV shows, she's hosted, she pushed

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<v Speaker 1>us out banging specials. And Adam Sandler he does what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants. He's transitioned from comedy to drama effortlessly and

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<v Speaker 1>works with his friends. That's the goal with my people.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Mack does like dramatic actor Adam Sandler. I've said

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<v Speaker 1>that before. He's not funny at all, but he's a

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<v Speaker 1>decent traumatic actor and he should just give up comedy

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<v Speaker 1>and just do dramatic movies. In my opinion, biggest financial

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<v Speaker 1>hurdle you've encountered since being a comedian, being broke is easy,

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<v Speaker 1>but making a nice six figures for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>after being broke for so long as a learning curve.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned how to spend money quickly, but after that

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<v Speaker 1>I realized investing in saving are just as important and

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<v Speaker 1>you start making money. Some years are better than others,

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<v Speaker 1>but as long as you learn to budget early, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be good. Best comedy advice, worst comedy advice. Best,

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<v Speaker 1>you're already fun. Make sure your spirit is right and

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<v Speaker 1>you know yourself, and stay grounded. Worst. A lame ass

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<v Speaker 1>stool banging comic in Atlanta told me not to move

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<v Speaker 1>to LA because it wasn't ready. Well, i'd say his name,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've never heard of him. Like I said, can't

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<v Speaker 1>rock this boat, baby, I do what I want. It's

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed on the back of my neck, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that in the most disrespectful way possible. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>your comedy news for today. If you enjoy the program,

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<v Speaker 1>notes and I'll see you tomorrow.