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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Monday edition of our show, coming up at

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<v Speaker 1>seven point thirty. It's the nickmn Geones Show, so we

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<v Speaker 1>will be with you right up until then. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about. We're gonna chat with Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 1>co defensive coordinator Chris Collins. He also coaches defensive backs

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<v Speaker 1>and of course one of his prize pupils is now

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<v Speaker 1>a Buffalo Bill thanks to being drafted in the first round,

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell Harriston. We talked about it on Friday to day

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<v Speaker 1>after the first round, which happened on Thursday, but since then,

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<v Speaker 1>Dion Walker also was drafted by the Buffalo Bills, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be teammates along with Ray Davis, the X Wildcat,

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<v Speaker 1>and a number of Wildcats signed free agent deals, including

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<v Speaker 1>jam and Dumas Johnson. Pops is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packer. At least he's going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>camp of the packer, which gives a packer nation two

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<v Speaker 1>guys at least two who can go by Pops if

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<v Speaker 1>they so desire. That's my grandkids call me. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>in the millions and millions of Packers fans there's other

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<v Speaker 1>people who call themselves or go bypops, but those are

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<v Speaker 1>two that now you know about. So we'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Collins coming up in hour number two, ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the Nickmnjeonne show coming up as well, though at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of this hour Mitch Barnhardt's gonna join us. Over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, there was a lot of chatter about a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of things. First of all, the rededication of Memorial Coliseum.

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<v Speaker 1>They finally finished it. Basically it's been open and operating

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, but this was the formal dedication of

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<v Speaker 1>the coliseum. And remember, for you younger folks, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>the varsity played, and I want you to think about

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<v Speaker 1>that the next time you go in there. That place

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<v Speaker 1>used to hold eleven thousand, five hundred. So when they

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<v Speaker 1>start playing at Rupp Arena and the UK women start

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<v Speaker 1>playing basketball and volleyball in the facility, it just really

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<v Speaker 1>began to age and it needed a facelift, and it

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<v Speaker 1>got a great one. I just thought they did a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous job on now what they're calling this year Historic

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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Coliseum. It goes back to being Memorial College next year.

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<v Speaker 1>But they wanted to pay homage to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it is Memorial Coliseum. It was dedicated with veterans in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice in World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two, in the Korean War, which I think was

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<v Speaker 1>going on when that building opened, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>later on in the Vietnam War. A lot of Kentuckians,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, lost their lives in those conflicts, and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five UK student athletes were killed in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were able to maintain a lot of that heritage,

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<v Speaker 1>but did a great job of the facelift. So we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Barnhardt about that as well. Go to UK

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<v Speaker 1>Athletics dot com if you want to learn more. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a picture page, the speeches and things like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll also talk to Mitch about the new LLC that

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge part now of the University of Kentucky Athletics,

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard a lot of talk over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>about that and grumbling on social media. Well now these

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<v Speaker 1>kids aren't playing for the school anymore, they're playing for

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<v Speaker 1>an LLC. Well, no, the LLC is part of the school.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a separate entity. Many of you out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I have an LLC in my name. It's in many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>something you do to protect yourself legally taxes involves things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But for UK it's designed to increase flexibility

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<v Speaker 1>within the department and help it find new ways to

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<v Speaker 1>generate additional revenue and manage expenses and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>College athletics is changing so quickly, as you well know,

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<v Speaker 1>not entirely for the better. You've got kids in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of the portal, a lot of kids in the

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<v Speaker 1>portal who shouldn't be there who are being disappointed, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money flying around, stuff like that, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to these schools to try to stay ahead. Arn

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<v Speaker 1>Art's been criticized for dragging his feet when all this

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<v Speaker 1>first started, but he and I were on a show

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<v Speaker 1>together on k ET and he talked about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>did ask him about that, and I've talked to him

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<v Speaker 1>about it on this show before, and his response was,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to make sure we do everything right

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<v Speaker 1>so that we don't run into a situation down the

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<v Speaker 1>road where we inadvertently break some rules and get into

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<v Speaker 1>some trouble. And sure enough, UK did. You might recall

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago there were some players involved

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<v Speaker 1>with not showing up for work and being paid and

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<v Speaker 1>they had to make restitution and things like that. That

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<v Speaker 1>could have gone a lot worse than it did. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's difficult now for universities across the country to stay

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of things, to stay on top of things, and

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<v Speaker 1>so UK really and this is the first of its

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<v Speaker 1>kind creating an LLC within the athletics department. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Champions Blue. And I want to know, how is this

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<v Speaker 1>different from what used to be the UK Athletics Association,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an independent entity independent of UK Athletics. That

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<v Speaker 1>was more of what people think the LLC is. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not external. The LLC is not It's like

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<v Speaker 1>UK Healthcare, it's part of the university. But UK Athletics

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<v Speaker 1>was a separate entity. It was run by the president

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<v Speaker 1>of the university and the athletics director. So we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that nailed down by Mitch Barnhardt. The

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<v Speaker 1>baseball Wildcats take two out of three over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>They win game number one and game number three in

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<v Speaker 1>the series. Should have swept quite frankly, not just could have,

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<v Speaker 1>Game number two, a home run, two run homer in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighth inning that turned a four to three Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>lead into a five to four South Carolina lead. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats sweep, but still they win the series. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they've won back to back series dating back to Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend, and it's the first home series the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>have won this season in baseball, So they protect their

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<v Speaker 1>to the NCAA Tournament Selections Committee. One of the services,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's D one Baseball projected Kentucky going into

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<v Speaker 1>last weekend as a three seed coming out, and especially

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<v Speaker 1>now with the wins over South Carolina, a two seed.

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<v Speaker 1>So a team that we all wondered are they even

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into the postseason about a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They're starting to figure things out. They're just grinding away

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<v Speaker 1>and they're making plays. Their defense has been solid pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all year long. The pitching started to come around

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ole Miss series, and now the hitting is

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<v Speaker 1>catching up. And as Patrick Herrera told us after the

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<v Speaker 1>blowout win over Louisville, he said, the hitters have now

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<v Speaker 1>just settled in to concentrate on quality at bats stacking

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<v Speaker 1>them up, which was pretty apparent over the weekend because

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<v Speaker 1>they were more aggressive. They weren't letting as many two

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<v Speaker 1>and oh fastballs right down the middle. And I'm oversimplifying,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were not letting as many of those pitches

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<v Speaker 1>go and it paid off. And the Sunday game was

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<v Speaker 1>hanging in the balance for a little while. They're late.

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina was down seven to three, put up two

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<v Speaker 1>to five, but the third base coach sent another runner

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<v Speaker 1>and Cole Hages from left field gunned him down at

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<v Speaker 1>the plate. That was a big momentum swing, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats tacked on four more runs. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a fun weekend. It was a good weekend in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of weather on Sunday, not so much Saturday. It was chili,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a weekend the Wildcats needed. And Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>is now heading for Western Kentucky tomorrow night. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>game you'll hear right here on six thirty WLAP and

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<v Speaker 1>then Kentucky will stay on the road and go on

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<v Speaker 1>Tossissippi State. I think they're going to stop maybe in Franklin, Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>and practice. I don't know if they'll still over a

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<v Speaker 1>night there, but they'll go from Bowling Green. They won't

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<v Speaker 1>come home. They packed extra clothes and they'll be heading

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<v Speaker 1>down to State, which is struggling this year, seven and

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen in conference play. But still anything can happen, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So the Wildcats need to keep right on

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<v Speaker 1>rolling if they can through Bowling Green and into Starkfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Lawson's softball team split two on Saturday with Mississippi State,

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<v Speaker 1>but dropped the rubber game of the three game set

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday afternoon by a final of five to nothing. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's Northern Kentucky here in Lexington tomorrow night. Then it's

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to Austin, Texas for the first time South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>or rather a Texas playing in Kentucky as an SEC team.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wildcatch are seven and fourteen in conference play, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and twenty two overall. They need wins to solidify

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<v Speaker 1>a spot in the postseason. So that's what's been happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we come back, we'll talk more about Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>Harston being drafted by the Buffalo Bills. Well here from

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<v Speaker 1>Van Hiles, the former Kentucky defensive back who played in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. That's all ahead at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>hour of Mitch Barnhart, You're on six thirty WLAP. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue and Sider. Coming up, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk with Chris Collins, the co defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>of the Kentucky Wildcats. He coaches defensive backs, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had Chris on the show a few weeks ago before

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<v Speaker 1>spring I think it was, and before spring practice. But

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<v Speaker 1>since then, Maxwell Harston of course was drafted by the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills, and so was Dion Walker. So we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get Chris's remarks about both of those guys going

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<v Speaker 1>to Buffalo, which obviously right now is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best teams in the NFL, and particularly Maxwell Harston, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a first round pick, a guy who a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago was struggling to find his way as

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<v Speaker 1>a young defensive back. Young defensive backs often struggle, but

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<v Speaker 1>then he became a real force for Kentucky. Was injured

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<v Speaker 1>last year, didn't get to play nearly as much as

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would have liked, but now is a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Bills in great standing, not just good standing,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was their first round draft pick and it

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<v Speaker 1>was also, as we all know, the guy who ran

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<v Speaker 1>the fastest at the combine that got him if you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't already looking at him, that got you looking at

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<v Speaker 1>him right away. So and you know it matters. It

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<v Speaker 1>does matter some with linemen, but clearly matters with skill players,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with defensive backs. So we'll talk to the coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Collins coming up in just a few minutes. But

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<v Speaker 1>the other day I hosted the Leach Report and one

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<v Speaker 1>of my guests was Van Hiles, who knows what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to be drafted. He was taken by the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>He played in the NFL till his injury. Injuries Cutter's

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<v Speaker 1>career are short. Now he is a pundit if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down video of Kentucky games and comments on the

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<v Speaker 1>inner on YouTube. It's fun talking football with Van and

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to chat with him about a fellow

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<v Speaker 1>d bat going in the first round of guy who

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<v Speaker 1>Van likes a lot. And if you saw the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw Maxwell Harrison well before he was drafted, congratulating

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<v Speaker 1>every player. Everybody who left the green room had to

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<v Speaker 1>walk past Max and they got a handshake and a

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<v Speaker 1>hug and a big smile, and Van like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's more happy for the other guys in

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<v Speaker 2>the draft they get drafted, and I am happy for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the best thing the op steen in the draft

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<v Speaker 2>in a long time, because at first I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>is that genuine? But then when he got picked, I'm like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was not a show, that was not an act.

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<v Speaker 2>That was him being himself and that was extremely awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great and what Van is talking about. And

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and just hugging and shaking hands for it.

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<v Speaker 3>You could tell how happy he was for every young

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<v Speaker 3>But when you wait like that, the odds are you're

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<v Speaker 2>And he did, didn't He Yes, And that's and and

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<v Speaker 2>The energy, and I am happy to see him with

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<v Speaker 2>for him. And I'm hoping that he has a great year.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly? And that's an extreme amount of pressure. But I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know he had this attitude. But I think he

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<v Speaker 2>meet those those expectations.

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<v Speaker 3>I interviewed him after the Vanity Game two years ago

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<v Speaker 3>when he had the two pick six's that game just

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<v Speaker 3>It was funny because Vandy was doing all the construction

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<v Speaker 3>with people walking by. But he couldn't have been happier,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, and more humble. He was not quite the

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<v Speaker 3>level of elation that we saw last night, which is understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>But that day, you know, breaking on the ball the

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<v Speaker 3>to see it. Just how vital was that pretty obvious

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<v Speaker 3>question Van, But next thing, you know, everybody knew who

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about it is that for me, what was

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<v Speaker 2>him for most of BBN, but the year prior when

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<v Speaker 2>coming wealth, which means he has so resilience to come

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<v Speaker 2>back and have great year after that. His eye discipline

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<v Speaker 2>is very good, and to combine that with his elite

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<v Speaker 3>You've taught me a lot about eye discipline, not just

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<v Speaker 3>the term, but exactly what it means. And it's some

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<v Speaker 3>of it's obvious, some of it is not. But you

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<v Speaker 3>is bad, can they not?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a quality that you can train for, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's also something that as an individual you have to trust.

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<v Speaker 2>And if a quarterback sees you not looking at him

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at a receiver, therefore you don't know when

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<v Speaker 2>a ball is going to be thrown for how kin

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<v Speaker 2>I react as a corner if I don't see the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>In all your head?

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<v Speaker 4>If we plan zone, if you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing man the man you should never see the quarter

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<v Speaker 2>But if we're planning zone and you're not looking at

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<v Speaker 2>me as a quarterback, I know you have no chance

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<v Speaker 2>to break on the ball. So therefore, with my quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>on that level, thirty two of the best quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 2>want to the majority of the time. So yes, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not. If you're not, I guess your intentions are

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<v Speaker 3>I watched the NFL networks coverage for a change, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>against ABCS, just wanted something different. But I did hear

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<v Speaker 3>what the guys on the ABC set had to say

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<v Speaker 3>about Harston, and they were raving about his ability. Not

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<v Speaker 3>just to break on the ball, that's pretty obvious, but

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<v Speaker 3>as Herbstreet talked about finding the ball, he talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that so many corners, so many d backs

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the case?

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<v Speaker 4>Van?

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<v Speaker 1>How tough is that? What you know? Tell me the

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<v Speaker 1>challenges there?

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<v Speaker 5>Tracking the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a god given talent and some people just have

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<v Speaker 2>come down. That is a trait that is God give

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the same trait that Travis Hunter has the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to track the ball and some people just don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it, and he has that ability. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>run a four to two whatever, now you can catch

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<v Speaker 2>up to any ball while you're tracking it. Because most people,

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<v Speaker 1>That's Van Heils, the former Kentucky defensive back, former Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bears defensive back, talking to me on the Leachs Report.

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<v Speaker 1>I love looking at his cutups online on Twitter, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course he's a podcast host, The Locker for one one.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear him on Sunday Morning Sports Talk Now and

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<v Speaker 1>then with Anthony White and Larry and the Gang, so

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<v Speaker 1>and I really enjoy talking to him. He still lives

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<v Speaker 1>eye everlastingly on his beloved Kentucky Wildcats. More Football Talk

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<v Speaker 1>comes up next with Chris Collins, the defensive backs coach

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<v Speaker 1>and co defensive coordinator for the Wildcats. That's all I

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<v Speaker 1>had on the Big Blue Insider. Plus we'll hear from

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball Cats here on six thirty WLAP. You're back

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<v Speaker 1>to work. I know you're busy today. Here is Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>in three to two one. Welcome back to the Big

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<v Speaker 1>blueing Sider, joined now by Kentucky Athletics Director Mitch Barnhardt. Mitch,

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<v Speaker 1>how has your week been going? I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's early, but you had a busy one last week,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you.

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<v Speaker 4>We did a lot going on with obviously we had

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<v Speaker 4>trustee meetings and full slate of activities on campus, and

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<v Speaker 4>so thankful for You're getting close to the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the year. We get and wrap up some of our seasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Our teams are doing well, but a lot to play

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<v Speaker 4>for in a lot of different areas. But a lot

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<v Speaker 4>to do between now and end of June as well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to touch base on a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you want to call it a bombshell,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was certainly a newsworthy A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that. If you could just sort of in

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing for.

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<v Speaker 4>UK, Well, I don't know that you know that in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of the time allotted, I think the easiest thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the easiest thing for people to understand is

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<v Speaker 4>that we've been fairly static in the world of college

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<v Speaker 4>athletics for a good long time. And we can say that, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>we've done this innovation and we've done that innovation, but

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<v Speaker 4>the relaty of it is all falls down in four

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<v Speaker 4>or five buckets of revenue for athletic departments, whether it's tickets,

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<v Speaker 4>licensing and t shirts and hats and concessions and serving

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<v Speaker 4>those kinds of things. It's sort of been in that circle.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look differently and you're trying to think differently,

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<v Speaker 4>we needed to create an entity that allowed us to

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<v Speaker 4>the university's got a thought process on this. They've put

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<v Speaker 4>we took that same concept and applied that to athletics

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<v Speaker 4>and gave us that concept to create Champions Blue, which

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<v Speaker 4>will be the entity which will house the athletic department.

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<v Speaker 4>Much different from the UK Athletic Association in the old days,

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<v Speaker 4>where that was an externally run organization with an external board.

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<v Speaker 4>This will be internally run organization with under the board

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<v Speaker 4>the auspice of the Board of Trustees and Athletics Committee. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so that will be different. And then the concept would

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<v Speaker 4>to five six new buckets of revenue streams coming into

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<v Speaker 4>these other places that have been sort of been sort

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have talked about this a few times

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<v Speaker 1>through the last few years, and we were on a

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you wanted to proceed wisely and cautiously. At

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning. Some people might have thought that you were

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're just everybody dove in. There weren't any guard rails,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I think, does this not apply guardrails where

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<v Speaker 4>likeness and the the expenses that are so difficult to

424
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<v Speaker 4>keep track of in terms of travel and medical and

425
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<v Speaker 4>food and things like that just continue to grow. Those

426
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<v Speaker 4>pieces give us some ability to say, okay, what is

427
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<v Speaker 4>necessary for us to move forward, and then it defines

428
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<v Speaker 4>it a little bit and then for us to be

429
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<v Speaker 4>able to say, yeah, here's the guardrails with which we

430
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<v Speaker 4>think we can operate under this new world that we're in.

431
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<v Speaker 4>Number one and number two, that gives us the chance

432
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<v Speaker 4>to be most effective under Kentucky law. And there are

433
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<v Speaker 4>some things that we've been able to change. Thankful for

434
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<v Speaker 4>the leadership in Frankfort in mid March that they were

435
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<v Speaker 4>able to change our our Kentucky nil law that gave

436
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<v Speaker 4>us a chance to be more in line with what

437
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<v Speaker 4>the settlement will have coming out. And in the next

438
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<v Speaker 4>few weeks, we hope and we get that that squared away.

439
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<v Speaker 4>Now we have the ability to implement the things that

440
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<v Speaker 4>are of the settlement and will give us a chance

441
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<v Speaker 4>to hopefully be thoughtful about what we do as we

442
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<v Speaker 4>as we go forward. So, you know, I don't know

443
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<v Speaker 4>if there's there's never hey, these are these are the

444
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<v Speaker 4>ten answers to every question. But in terms of the

445
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<v Speaker 4>things that we're facing, we do know that there's gonna

446
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<v Speaker 4>be a it's going to be a little bit of

447
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<v Speaker 4>a dance trying to figure our way through all of this.

448
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<v Speaker 4>We know the waters and I've said this before, the

449
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<v Speaker 4>waters are a little choppy, right now, and hopeful after

450
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<v Speaker 4>we get this and we can begin to smooth smooth

451
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<v Speaker 4>things out a little bit and give us a chance

452
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<v Speaker 4>to to operate in a way that that gives Kentucky

453
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<v Speaker 4>the best chance to be competitive in a really difficult

454
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<v Speaker 4>league and and and Nash only we have been very

455
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<v Speaker 4>competitive nationally. We want to make sure that we're still

456
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<v Speaker 4>on that.

457
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<v Speaker 1>In that conversation, what was the change in law that

458
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<v Speaker 1>came from Frankfurt if you can explain that in Senesame

459
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<v Speaker 1>Street terms to.

460
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<v Speaker 4>Us, Yeah, I think I think what it allowed it

461
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<v Speaker 4>allowed us the institution to pay directly finances from the

462
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<v Speaker 4>revenue share and arrange nil deals that will help our

463
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<v Speaker 4>student athletes in the landscape. We weren't allowed to do

464
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<v Speaker 4>some of that before. So it's not just for Kentucky,

465
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<v Speaker 4>it's for all schools in the state of Kentucky. It

466
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<v Speaker 4>gives them the flexibility for institutions to participate in the

467
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<v Speaker 4>rest share and then for the institutions to use our

468
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<v Speaker 4>money or third party money to directly pay our student

469
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<v Speaker 4>athletes in the rep share.

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<v Speaker 1>Piece, I got you, Kentucky UK is plumbing some new

471
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<v Speaker 1>ground here that's going to make you proud.

472
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm thankful, We've got a very thoughtful staff. They're

473
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<v Speaker 4>working hard at it all the time. Thankful for the

474
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<v Speaker 4>administration of the university, doctor Capludo and doctor Monday, and

475
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<v Speaker 4>they've been really helped full as we try and get

476
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<v Speaker 4>to a different spot. They've been helpful. We've been The

477
00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 4>conversation we've used a lot, Dick is that it's been

478
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<v Speaker 4>partner equity, and you hear a lot about private equity,

479
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<v Speaker 4>and that's certainly one component in the world that we're

480
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<v Speaker 4>in today in terms of all business. Ours is more

481
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<v Speaker 4>like a partner equity. We've been good partners to the university,

482
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<v Speaker 4>and the university has been great partners to us, and

483
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<v Speaker 4>so we've been able to work together and to find

484
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<v Speaker 4>a way and I appreciative of them stepping forward to

485
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 4>a time when we need we need some help and

486
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<v Speaker 4>in both administratively in terms of the things that we're

487
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<v Speaker 4>allowed to do and the things that may be financially

488
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<v Speaker 4>we're going to need to do.

489
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<v Speaker 1>When you were a young assistant ad and you were

490
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<v Speaker 1>a fundraiser and eight's around the country worried about hiring coaches,

491
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>building facilities, I mean you look down the road and

492
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<v Speaker 1>now you know every guy in your line of work,

493
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and woman is dealing with similar situations with the portal

494
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<v Speaker 1>within I with things that seem to be changing every

495
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<v Speaker 1>day in the courtrooms and things like that. I know

496
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 1>you didn't sign up for this, but what is that

497
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<v Speaker 1>like the way it's affected your job, especially you have,

498
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, a fewer years ahead of you compared to

499
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 1>what you got behind you. But man, it's it's just

500
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 1>a challenging job now more than ever, isn't it.

501
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<v Speaker 4>It really is, you know. And there's an old phrase

502
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<v Speaker 4>in it says, it doesn't have to be your fault

503
00:26:22.720 --> 00:26:25.079
<v Speaker 4>to be your responsibility. And I would say a lot

504
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<v Speaker 4>a lot of this a lot for a lot of folks.

505
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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't It wasn't what they created, it wasn't what

506
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 4>they got into. But it has our responsibilities. We go

507
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.000
<v Speaker 4>forward to try and find our way through it. So

508
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 4>that's what we'll do, and we'll try and find our

509
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<v Speaker 4>way through it. I've got again, I'm thankful for the

510
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<v Speaker 4>staff that I have. It's an amazing group of people

511
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<v Speaker 4>that have worked really really hard to sort of get

512
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<v Speaker 4>us to the starting line of all this. And we've

513
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.920
<v Speaker 4>got a lot more work ahead of us. And but

514
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 4>the goal the end of the day is still everyone

515
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 4>thinks this is trite when you say it. I did

516
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 4>an interview with a the SEC Network last week and

517
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 4>one of the comments maybe he talked about academics. I

518
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 4>guess he has to. Now that's because we want to

519
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 4>We've got We've still got five hundred student athletes. Although

520
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 4>some of them may be getting some monies that they

521
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:17.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't get before, they're still going to school, they're still

522
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<v Speaker 4>getting degrees, and they're still important for us to dial

523
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.079
<v Speaker 4>into the Academy of Higher Education. And so that's really

524
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.240
<v Speaker 4>important for us, and so we worked really hard to

525
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.359
<v Speaker 4>make sure we haven't lost that alignment between diplomas and

526
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 4>hands and rings on fingers. We talked about that all

527
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<v Speaker 4>the time.

528
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<v Speaker 1>Well, when people in my line of work who walk

529
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>my side of the street scoff at the at the

530
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>student end of things, I try to remind hey, one

531
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<v Speaker 1>percent of these kids go pro the way that you

532
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.799
<v Speaker 1>know you see within the media and we cover the

533
00:27:46.839 --> 00:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>tail that wags the dog. We've got to remember that.

534
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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking with Mitch Barnard, UK's athletics director. I

535
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>mentioned facilities. Over the weekend you all celebrated the historic

536
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<v Speaker 1>Memorial Coliseum of the formal reopening up it. And I

537
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.160
<v Speaker 1>know that the weather could have cooperated a little bit better,

538
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 1>But were you pleased at the way it turned out,

539
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<v Speaker 1>because I'll tell you what, Mitch, the renovation turned out

540
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>incredibly well.

541
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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you. We're certainly excited about it. I think

542
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.839
<v Speaker 4>we finally got to an in spot of most of them.

543
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 4>There might be a couple of punch list things still

544
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:25.039
<v Speaker 4>to do, but by and Marche the heavy liftings done

545
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 4>on the facility. It is spectacular. So much history and

546
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 4>so much so much memories for so many people, and

547
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 4>so it was wonderful to bring everybody together on Saturday

548
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.519
<v Speaker 4>and just have a chance to reflect on that. I

549
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 4>think sometimes when we see a lot of times in

550
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<v Speaker 4>facilities and different places across the country, you see the

551
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:48.720
<v Speaker 4>word memorial, and I think that just a word we

552
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:51.839
<v Speaker 4>toss away pretty casually. And I thought it was really

553
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 4>really special to listen to people talk on Saturday about

554
00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 4>what memorial meant to them, not only the word, but

555
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 4>what them meant. And for the ability to watch people

556
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 4>as they walked around the pillars out front and to

557
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.200
<v Speaker 4>find names of loved ones from their hometown or from

558
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.720
<v Speaker 4>their family or for whatever it happened to be in

559
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 4>the on the stone pillars out front was really spectacular.

560
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<v Speaker 4>It was emotional for a lot of people, and really

561
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 4>really cool to know that we've honored our veterans in

562
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 4>such a really really remarkable way and the want to

563
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:28.119
<v Speaker 4>continue to do that, so we're thankful for that. It

564
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:30.119
<v Speaker 4>was pretty neat. It was really really great. It was

565
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 4>great to ask some of our teams there, in our

566
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 4>athletes to listen. That's what it meant to be one

567
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 4>of those one of those folks that has a chance

568
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 4>to play in that facility and appreciate it.

569
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<v Speaker 1>Many years ago, I just took some time and walked

570
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<v Speaker 1>around reading the plaques of the names, and I knew

571
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<v Speaker 1>obviously there were a lot of Kentuckians who lost their

572
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<v Speaker 1>lives in World War Two. I was not aware of

573
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<v Speaker 1>Mitch that there were what twenty five UK students who

574
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<v Speaker 1>went off to fight and were killed in the war.

575
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<v Speaker 1>So so it's just it's an incredible history lesson, isn't it.

576
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<v Speaker 2>No, it really is.

577
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<v Speaker 4>In twenty five student athletes for that matter. Yeah, student

578
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 4>athletes that went that went to and went over there

579
00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.839
<v Speaker 4>and we had a chance to represent our opportunity to

580
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.000
<v Speaker 4>represent our in our country and lost their lives in battle,

581
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 4>and so I you know, you talk about it back

582
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.960
<v Speaker 4>in the day of World War two and the Korean

583
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 4>conflict in Vietnam and those they were drafted into that

584
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<v Speaker 4>at ages seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years old and brought into

585
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 4>it with you know, that's what they did. And so

586
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 4>they went in knowing that the result could be one

587
00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 4>that didn't didn't allow them to keep their life, which

588
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 4>was really So that's what we want to make sure

589
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 4>we honor that the right way. And so I think

590
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 4>we've done that. I think the facility reflects that, and

591
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 4>it reflects the incredible, incredible athletic tradition of this institution

592
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 4>and so so we're excited to be able to carry

593
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<v Speaker 4>that on.

594
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was going to say when Jack Gibbans and

595
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>I worked the pro day, boy, it seems like a

596
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.359
<v Speaker 1>long time ago, but before basketball season and here's I'm

597
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>dating myself. But the first couple of years I was

598
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a UK, I attended the varsity games in the coliseum

599
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons played, and we would tell today's players about that,

600
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 1>and they would look around and go, how did they

601
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.559
<v Speaker 1>do that? I said, well, the seating arrangement was a

602
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.799
<v Speaker 1>little bit different back then with eleven thy five hundred,

603
00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and people don't realize Adolph Rupp thought that the coliseum

604
00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>was going to be a white elephant. He was thinking,

605
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 1>how do we fill this thing? Obviously they did, but

606
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 1>now it's a show place. And and what's it like

607
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>for you when other coaches in ad eastmen around the country,

608
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>around the conference come in and look around and see

609
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the job you all have done on this building.

610
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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think I think it's it's obviously it's a

611
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 4>source of pride for our institution and for and we're

612
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 4>certainly excited about it. I think people, you know, I

613
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 4>think there was there's been a couple of facilities that

614
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 4>when we were going through the design process we took

615
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 4>note of and said, hey, we want to be like that,

616
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 4>and we want to take it. And I used the

617
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.680
<v Speaker 4>term we had a gem. I wanted to make sure

618
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 4>we turned it into a jewel, you know, And so

619
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 4>we polished up the gem and made it a really

620
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 4>beautiful jewel. And it's and it's really really well done.

621
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<v Speaker 4>And I love the fact that there's so much blue

622
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 4>in the facility. And uh, I was The greatest story

623
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 4>on Saturday was Sad Jerris. He was talking about when

624
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 4>he played for REPS, was on REPS runs and uh,

625
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 4>he said, he came in. He said, they'd go in

626
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 4>at halftime and he goes, the crowd back then there

627
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.000
<v Speaker 4>was no laws that said they couldn't smoke. So they

628
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 4>went out in the lobbies and smoked a half a

629
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 4>pack of cigarettes and came back in the seats and

630
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 4>he said, he said, when you came out from halftime,

631
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 4>there was this thin haze of smoke over the court,

632
00:32:48.839 --> 00:32:50.759
<v Speaker 4>and he goes, you're you're running up and down the

633
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 4>court and haaling all that. He goes, it was it

634
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<v Speaker 4>wasn't great. So but but you know that's yeah, we

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<v Speaker 4>laugh a little bit, but uh, that's those feelings were

636
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<v Speaker 4>full of that. And so you know, but great stories

637
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 4>and great memories and and and and times change and

638
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 4>and we've got to adjust and but at the end

639
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<v Speaker 4>of the day, we still want to capture traditions and

640
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<v Speaker 4>memories that went.

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<v Speaker 1>On to be as you know, a Lieutenant curdl in

642
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<v Speaker 1>the United States Air Force. Before I let you go,

643
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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned some teams that are coming to the ends

644
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<v Speaker 1>of their respective seasons. I work baseball over the weekend.

645
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<v Speaker 1>Looks like the baseball team is with all those new faces, Mitch,

646
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and you've been at a lot of the games lately,

647
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.039
<v Speaker 1>they're figuring things out. The pitching and the hitting are

648
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:38.839
<v Speaker 1>all coming together.

649
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're starting to work the way through it. And

650
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.160
<v Speaker 4>as I was talking to someone earlier today, we've had

651
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 4>so many injuries in all of our sports program this year.

652
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<v Speaker 4>This is most most, maybe the most injuries we've ever seen.

653
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<v Speaker 4>I'm not remembered as many as many injuries by sport

654
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 4>as we walk through that have just affected us in

655
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 4>so many ways. And so it's you know, coach Men

656
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 4>just had his share this year between some of the

657
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 4>arm injuries and the pitching staff. And then we've had

658
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<v Speaker 4>a couple of unfortunates. Well you know here the last

659
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks, just folks, we're just starting to play

660
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 4>some good baseball and they get hurt and now they're

661
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:17.800
<v Speaker 4>sitting down and and you know, it's so to walk

662
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 4>through and continue to find your way to victories through

663
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 4>all of that, regardless of teams, has been incredible this weekend.

664
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<v Speaker 4>We obviously the baseball team took two or three from

665
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina, which was important to protect home field a

666
00:34:33.079 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 4>little bit. You know. We go on the road with

667
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<v Speaker 4>Mississippi State next week, come home with Oklahoma before going

668
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<v Speaker 4>on the road to Vandy, so some games down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to finally have nine games down the stretching conference.

670
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<v Speaker 4>We need to find our way to do some work there.

671
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<v Speaker 4>But thankful that our guys are playing some really good

672
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 4>ball and so a good time of year's story would

673
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:54.800
<v Speaker 4>be trending towards postseason. So we got some other team

674
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 4>working towards that as well, and so we're thankful for

675
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 4>their efforts. And this should be a good spring season

676
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 4>for us. We're twentieth in the Director's Cup going into

677
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>the spring and so see if we can hold our

678
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.000
<v Speaker 4>spot there. It'll be tough. Our conference is really good

679
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 4>in the spring.

680
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<v Speaker 1>So really good, Mitch. Thank you so much for your

681
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 1>time and congratulations on getting out ahead of things. But

682
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you were able to clear some things up.

683
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.480
<v Speaker 1>And i hope people understand better now. People who can play, well,

684
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 1>they're not playing for the school anymore. They're playing for

685
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 1>the LLC. Well, the LLC is the school. That's what

686
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>they need to remember.

687
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is. It is as far as it just

688
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 4>gives the chance to fund it differently. Yeah, yeah, appreciate it.

689
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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk to you soon, Thanks, Dick. Appreciate all the best.

691
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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back with a quick segment and on to hour

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<v Speaker 1>number two and we talk with Chris Collins, Kentucky's co

693
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator and DB's coach. We'll talk to him about

694
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Maxwell Harston going to the NFL and Dean Walker they're

695
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 1>playing for the Buffalo Bills together now along with Ray Davis.

696
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 1>And then at seven thirty we'll make way for the

697
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<v Speaker 1>Nick Menji Ownes show here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back,

698
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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again to Mitch Barnhardt for joining us. Coming up

699
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<v Speaker 1>in our next next hour Chris Collins, the defensive coordinator

700
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.199
<v Speaker 1>and d backs coach for the Wildcats. We'll talk about

701
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Maxwell Harston being drafted along with Dean Walker by Buffalo

702
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.800
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL draft over the weekend. But we need

703
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to talk a little bit of baseball because well, of course,

704
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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned earlier, the Wildcats beating South Carolina took

705
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>advantage of four South Carolina errors, three coming in one

706
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>inning involving one Kentucky player, Luke Lawrence, who had a

707
00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 1>weekly hit ground ball to first base. The first baseman

708
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 1>flips to the pitcher trying to cover, he drops the ball.

709
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>It was there ahead of Lawrence, but Lawrence reaches on

710
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 1>the air. Then he moves up on a bunt, so

711
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>now they try to pick him off. Second pitcher throws

712
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it away, center fielder charges backs up, fires a seed

713
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>to third base, but it's wild goes and hits the

714
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 1>front of the dugout. Lawrence breaks for home and he

715
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.159
<v Speaker 1>scores a run. So one guy involved with three different

716
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.559
<v Speaker 1>errors on one one half inning as Kentucky put up

717
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 1>a run that made it what six to one, and

718
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Wildcat's going to win at eleven to five. I bring

719
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that up because making the rounds on the internet was

720
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a walk off what they call little league home run

721
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<v Speaker 1>by the San Francisco Giants over the Texas Rangers. A

722
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:22.519
<v Speaker 1>ground ball to the infield, thrown away at first base,

723
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 1>and then a comedy of errors and the base runner

724
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 1>the batter ends up scoring, comes around to score on

725
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 1>a weak round ball that never left the infield. And

726
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>when you see that kind of thing, you're reminded of

727
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>how young kids, the little kids, the little leaguers will

728
00:37:40.199 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>spray around the yard. And that's how the Giants announcers

729
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Kiper and Mike Cruco called it on the San

730
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Francisco Giants telecast promos. Is one for two tapsis one

731
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<v Speaker 1>to third and.

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00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.599
<v Speaker 4>He tells down the right Bill l.

733
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<v Speaker 1>Robinson is on the ball and he is gonna stuck.

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<v Speaker 6>No, now he's gonna go to third. Here's the throuw

735
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<v Speaker 6>the gowd. There comes rebels. This game is over. The

736
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:20.199
<v Speaker 6>Giants win the game at a.

737
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<v Speaker 1>Little league home run, and again that's courtesy Bay Area Sports.

738
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>That is the most it's gotta be the most embarrassing

739
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<v Speaker 1>way to lose the game. They were looking at extra innings,

740
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but in the bottom of the ninth inning, the Rangers

741
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>throw it all over the yard and the Giants go

742
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>home happy with a three to two win. The play

743
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 1>from the Kentucky game happened in the sixth inning. It

744
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>was later in the game that Kentucky socked it away.

745
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.639
<v Speaker 1>But teams need to get South Carolina now because Paul

746
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Minarrey is a coach and he's a great one and

747
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.320
<v Speaker 1>he will turn things around there as he did at

748
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 1>LSU and Notre Dame. Our number two is next with

749
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<v Speaker 1>Chris Collins on six thirty.

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<v Speaker 7>Wlapning at such.

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<v Speaker 6>Tact Can Anything Anything?

752
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider. Joining us

753
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 1>down our celebrity highline is a guy we talked to

754
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.599
<v Speaker 1>you back in March about Kentucky football. But we need

755
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>to revisit with Chris Collins, co defensive coordinator and Dback's

756
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 1>coach for the Wildcats, because one of your star pupils

757
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>now had the night of his life, didn't he, Chris

758
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>h Maxwell Harrison going in the first round of the

759
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills. You had to be excited, almost excited as

760
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he was.

761
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 5>I definitely definitely was, man. It was, you know, the

762
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.679
<v Speaker 5>site to see, you know, tremendously excited for Max and

763
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:29.400
<v Speaker 5>his family. I don't know if I could match his excitement, man,

764
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 5>you know, watching him, you know, watching him throughout the process. Man,

765
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 5>you know, just be who he is, you know, congratulating

766
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 5>every guy that went across the stage before him.

767
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>You know.

768
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 5>It was funny. We had some uh my wife's sister,

769
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 5>so my sister in law was in town and and

770
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 5>she's like, he always liked that, Like, yes, he really

771
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:50.719
<v Speaker 5>always liked that, you know, So it was it was

772
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 5>it was a pleasure to see. I'm so happy for

773
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 5>him and his family.

774
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And he had that that great spot right by the camera.

775
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he planned it that way or what,

776
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 1>but every person who left that room got a handshake

777
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and a hug from Maxwell. Yeah.

778
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 5>Man, good little works and mysterious ways.

779
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Man.

780
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 5>You know that that position and kind of put him

781
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 5>in a great spot to show who he was. Yeah,

782
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.559
<v Speaker 5>so he being for us and show he'll be at

783
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.039
<v Speaker 5>the next level. So you know, it's funny. And then

784
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:18.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, out of all the things that kind of

785
00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 5>could have gone viral, that was one thing that went viral.

786
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 5>You know from the experience. You know, so again, man,

787
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.119
<v Speaker 5>just excited for him and his family, the hard work

788
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.360
<v Speaker 5>he's put in, commitment to the process of being phenomenal.

789
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 5>Watch it, you know, watch it kind of unfold.

790
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've coached in several places. You've also worked with academics,

791
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 1>with with student athletes, so you get to know these guys. Uh,

792
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 1>and so there's it's more than just a coach player relationship.

793
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>It's more than just you know, having a guy helping

794
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 1>a guy move on, isn't it?

795
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it is it is, man. You know I was

796
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.800
<v Speaker 5>blessed in my career to kind of work my way

797
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.239
<v Speaker 5>up through the ranks, you know. And so at division two,

798
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 5>you know, he talked about it. We had to wear

799
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 5>a lot of caps, you know, the blessed to have

800
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 5>some guys going to the next level from Division two

801
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.920
<v Speaker 5>and every level since. But yeah, I think the Good

802
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.760
<v Speaker 5>Lord put it on my heart at that time. You know,

803
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 5>it's bigger than just football, you know, and help need

804
00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 5>you grow and develop into two quality humans, quality men,

805
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, and so you know, but yes, dealing with

806
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 5>the academics at that level and you know, doing a

807
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:23.920
<v Speaker 5>lot more than just you know the x's and o's.

808
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 5>You know, I just continue to carry that, you know,

809
00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 5>every stop and so that relationship, man, that bond, you know,

810
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 5>it's one that's really special. And you know it takes

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of time and a lot of committment, a

812
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 5>lot of sacrifice to get it to the place that's necessary.

813
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 5>But continue to be willing to do that, and you know,

814
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 5>nights like Thursday night man or you know, phenomenal deals, uh,

815
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 5>to watch that maturation process.

816
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back a few years when Maxwell was struggling

817
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.079
<v Speaker 1>a bit, uh, you know, had a particularly tough game

818
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>against Vandy when Vandy came in here to election into

819
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 1>one and then turned it around, come completely the next

820
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>year and became an All Conference performer, National Player of

821
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.159
<v Speaker 1>the Week. The two pick sixes against Vandy I had,

822
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 1>he was our player of the game on the radio network.

823
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I interviewed him out outside of that you know, inflatable

824
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>tent you guys had for a locker room, and I

825
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>talked to him before I knew how gracious and humble

826
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.760
<v Speaker 1>he was. But just how in the world did this happen? Chris?

827
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the hard work, I know, But what is

828
00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>it that he brings to that position that you think

829
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 1>enabled him to make this climb?

830
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, the Good Lord blessed Max with ability, right,

831
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.239
<v Speaker 5>and so it was our job to kind of help

832
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.760
<v Speaker 5>him home that ability, you know. But to his credit,

833
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 5>to his parents' credit. Man, you know, the kid understood

834
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 5>adversity and wasn't afraid of it, you know. And so

835
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 5>a lot of young people go through those moments, and

836
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:50.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, we call them pit moments, to where they

837
00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 5>could really make you or they could break you, you know.

838
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 5>And so we knew what type of player he could be.

839
00:44:57.760 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 5>He knew what type of player he could be. And

840
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 5>so that moment, you know, rewinding back to that young

841
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 5>freshman who probably wasn't ready for that moment at the time,

842
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, thrown in that fire in the sec in

843
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 5>the critical moment. He used it as motivation, you know,

844
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 5>he used it as fuel to continue to level and

845
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 5>elevate the level of work. You know, that was necessary

846
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 5>to take those steps. And so we knew he had

847
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:26.320
<v Speaker 5>the ability. You know, we talk about potential, and potential

848
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:29.440
<v Speaker 5>is a dangerous word, and so you know, but he

849
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 5>took advantage of what was in front of him and

850
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 5>made the most of that potential. And so you know,

851
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 5>again that just goes back to the foundation as parents

852
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:39.760
<v Speaker 5>laid in them, you know, in terms of who he

853
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 5>is character wised, His work ethic was there, but it

854
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.440
<v Speaker 5>was about honing that work ethic, right, not just going

855
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:48.000
<v Speaker 5>and doing really nearly all kinds of millions of things.

856
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 5>Let's be specific on how we're getting better and intentional

857
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:54.840
<v Speaker 5>about that process from the field work to the film study.

858
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 5>And he took the plan and ran with it, you know,

859
00:45:57.920 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 5>and took the plan and ran with it. And so

860
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 5>the results are the results. And we talk to our

861
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 5>guys about that process all the time, and so it's

862
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.039
<v Speaker 5>a great thing to see, you know, when you can

863
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 5>see those scars live and in person, you know, and

864
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:12.960
<v Speaker 5>then be able to see guys fight through that a version.

865
00:46:13.039 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 5>That wasn't the only adversity they faced in his career,

866
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 5>but that was a good starting point to it to say, hey, man,

867
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm strong and I'm mentally in physically to fight through

868
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.119
<v Speaker 5>this thing and come out on the other side better

869
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 5>because of it.

870
00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:29.400
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Kentucky co defensive coordinator Chris Collins, a

871
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 1>defensive backfield coach for the Wildcats. I've got to think, Chris,

872
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>this is kind of an obvious question, but dealing with adversity,

873
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.159
<v Speaker 1>the ability to do that, I would think has to

874
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>be especially vital for a defensive back. Am I right,

875
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 1>shortest memory on the team?

876
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 5>I gotta think, yeah, it is. It is a crucial,

877
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.920
<v Speaker 5>a crucial attribute to being successful at the position. And

878
00:46:51.960 --> 00:46:54.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, as coaches, we try to train it. You know,

879
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 5>we work really hard at trying to train it and

880
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.480
<v Speaker 5>putting our guys in adverse situations, you know, throughout practice,

881
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, throughout the off season and training, even in

882
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:05.199
<v Speaker 5>the meeting room. You know, we try to train it

883
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 5>there as well, and so it becomes a little bit easier,

884
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 5>a little bit easier.

885
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

886
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:10.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, but I tell guys all the time, nothing

887
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:12.880
<v Speaker 5>like playing in front of one hundred thousand, nothing like

888
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.159
<v Speaker 5>playing in front of you know, uh you that home crowd.

889
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 5>And so you know, we're putting you in these situations intentionally.

890
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.800
<v Speaker 5>So you get these scars now, but understand, you want

891
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 5>to get them now in practice, get them now in

892
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 5>the meeting room. Uh, so you don't have to feel

893
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 5>those same scars in the ball game. And you know,

894
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 5>Coach Stoop says it all the time. Nothing is a

895
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 5>better teacher than scars. You know, you get scard from

896
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 5>a moment. You know, you'll learn, you know, and a

897
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 5>lot of times those scars, you know, run a little

898
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.760
<v Speaker 5>bit deeper, you know, when in front of the audience.

899
00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 5>And so but but training that mentality of the next play,

900
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, is important, and so we talk about man

901
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 5>the confidence that it takes the place position is the

902
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.599
<v Speaker 5>correct reflection of the work that you're willing to put in,

903
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 5>you know. And so if you're willing to put in

904
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 5>extra you'll develop that confidence and that confidence and carry

905
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 5>you through those that situations because they're going to show up,

906
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:02.679
<v Speaker 5>especially in this league.

907
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, uh and in the NFL. You you've been

908
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>here for it four years, so you know all about

909
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Nation. But you know, there's a real

910
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>parallel I think with Bill's mafia, right, I mean, and

911
00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 1>they have been vocal and welcoming Maxwell Harriston. You got

912
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to love that for.

913
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.199
<v Speaker 4>Him, I do.

914
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 5>I do. His personality, you know, who he is as

915
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 5>a young man. I think it fits just like it's

916
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 5>fit here. You know, humble, hard working, blue collar you know,

917
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 5>a kid that that wasn't given anything, had to go

918
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 5>earn it, you know. And I think that speaks to

919
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 5>to our fan base, and of course it speaks to

920
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.800
<v Speaker 5>the Bills fan base as well, and so I think

921
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:47.480
<v Speaker 5>it's a great fit. I think that's why we have

922
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.880
<v Speaker 5>other UK former UK players you know, on their rosters. Yeah,

923
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.360
<v Speaker 5>and so you know, it's really exciting, really exciting time.

924
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.440
<v Speaker 5>But again, I think not just the Blue got a

925
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 5>lot more in common than Just the Blue in terms of,

926
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, the style of play, you know, the program

927
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 5>and the fan base.

928
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>And you gotta love the fact, like you said that

929
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Ray Davis is there so and it was Max was

930
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 1>so funny when he's that I'm moving in. But uh

931
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and now Dion Walker is going with him. So will

932
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>you talk about a safety We're not a safety blanket,

933
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.079
<v Speaker 1>but just some real comfort around him, right.

934
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:28.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, no question, no question in terms of you know,

935
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.280
<v Speaker 5>some guys that have gone through it, you know that

936
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 5>he can lean on the guys that are going through

937
00:49:32.119 --> 00:49:35.039
<v Speaker 5>it at the same time. You know, rookie year is tough.

938
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:35.159
<v Speaker 4>Man.

939
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.320
<v Speaker 5>I was talking to Drew Phillips, you know, a couple

940
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 5>of weeks back he came back training. He's like, man,

941
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 5>it just it goes so fast because you're going from

942
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 5>the draft pre draft process, you know, the end of

943
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.800
<v Speaker 5>the season, bowl games right then you go straight into

944
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Singior Bowl pre draft. Then you're going straight into to

945
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.199
<v Speaker 5>Combine right then his draft and and then he goes

946
00:49:55.199 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 5>straight in the rookie Minnie camp and it just stopped.

947
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 5>It's almost a full you know, three hundred and sixty

948
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.400
<v Speaker 5>five in terms of like you're going going going, so

949
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 5>that rookie year can be a lot, and so having

950
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.519
<v Speaker 5>guys who you know going through it, you know previous year,

951
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.239
<v Speaker 5>and guys that are going through it with you from

952
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 5>the same place. Man, I think will help tremendously.

953
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.440
<v Speaker 1>He is Chris Collins, co defensive coordinator for the Wildcats

954
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and defensive backs coach. And of course we're talking about

955
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Maxwell Harrison and Dion Walker, both drafted by the Buffalo Bills.

956
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Back in just a minute on six thirty Wlap Welcome

957
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 1>back to the Big Blue Insider. My guest is Chris Collins.

958
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>He is the co defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach

959
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 1>for the Wildcats. Dion was drafted to provide depth. They

960
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:42.519
<v Speaker 1>needed help on the D line. They drafted some other

961
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>D linemen, but Max, he's a first round pick. Now

962
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 1>they're going to expect results right away. I don't know

963
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.679
<v Speaker 1>if he'll be a starter or be a nickelback whatever,

964
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 1>but he's going to have to produce right away, isn't he.

965
00:50:54.280 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 4>Man.

966
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:56.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited for him. I know he's excited about it.

967
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.280
<v Speaker 5>You know. He doesn't run from challenges, you know, and

968
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:02.159
<v Speaker 5>I think that's shown throughout his career and I think

969
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 5>that's a big reason why you know, he's drafted the

970
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 5>first round. But outside of that, man, the kids all

971
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 5>worker like he outside of just the football piece, right,

972
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:14.079
<v Speaker 5>the kids will work. He takes the information. Let's give

973
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:15.960
<v Speaker 5>it to him and try it. Really are works really

974
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 5>hard to apply, you know. And I say work, I

975
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:21.199
<v Speaker 5>mean in the classroom, in the meeting room, right, those things,

976
00:51:21.239 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 5>those those traits, man, you can't always see on tape,

977
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 5>but they show up in big plays. And so again, man,

978
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited for his opportunity. He'll make the most of

979
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.480
<v Speaker 5>it because he'll continue to work and continue to grind

980
00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 5>that and it's gonna be hard, you know. We talked

981
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:37.559
<v Speaker 5>about it, man, at every level it is, and so

982
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 5>embracing that grind, you know, leaning on the past experiences

983
00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 5>that he's had to go through and his life stick

984
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 5>up to this point to push him through. But I

985
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 5>know he's excited for the challenge and we're excited to

986
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 5>see him accept that challenge.

987
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of work, I love the video clip I'm

988
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>sure you saw when he walked onto the field up

989
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo for the first time, saying I'm in the NFL,

990
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was so excited and I'm ready to run

991
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:03.679
<v Speaker 1>some drills right now in my loafers. A lot of

992
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 1>adrenaline happenings. But that that's typical, isn't it.

993
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh hundreds percent, hundred percent Again, like you know, that's

994
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 5>that's his DNA, you know, that's that's his DNA, you know,

995
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 5>and he learned it from his mom and his dad

996
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:20.480
<v Speaker 5>and and uh he's continued not just to again learn

997
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 5>but apply it right. And so I think that's a

998
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 5>big piece of being successful. A lot of guys can

999
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 5>get the information right, but who's willing to apply it

1000
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.320
<v Speaker 5>on a consistent basis? And so, uh, he's had guys

1001
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 5>that he's learned from in our room in the past, uh,

1002
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.440
<v Speaker 5>who have gone on to the NFL, who's still in

1003
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.880
<v Speaker 5>the NFL. And so I think he took all those

1004
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:43.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, those nuggets right that he got from from family,

1005
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 5>from from teammates, right from uh, from from myself, from

1006
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.880
<v Speaker 5>our coaching staff, from coach students and uh and worked

1007
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.000
<v Speaker 5>really hard to apply him And so, you know, getting

1008
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:54.199
<v Speaker 5>tremendously happy for him.

1009
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Some of the experts say that as great as he

1010
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:02.119
<v Speaker 1>is at breaking on the ball his speed, that he

1011
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>needs to learn to tackle a little bit better. But

1012
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 1>at least one guy said, then, you know, he was

1013
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.559
<v Speaker 1>dealing with injuries this past year. Do you have any

1014
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:12.039
<v Speaker 1>qualms about that? I mean, everybody needs to get better,

1015
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but was that Chris The result of the fact that

1016
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 1>he did have the injury he was dealing with this

1017
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>past season.

1018
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:19.719
<v Speaker 4>I do.

1019
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 5>I do believe that, you know, we never know, but

1020
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:24.599
<v Speaker 5>I do believe that because you look back, you know,

1021
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:27.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, you go back twenty three season, and he's

1022
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.239
<v Speaker 5>one of our better tackles, you know, especially out in

1023
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 5>pliminary space. He's willing to do it, you know what

1024
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 5>I mean, And so there's no fear in that regard.

1025
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.000
<v Speaker 5>And so I think, you know, dealing with the injuries,

1026
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:38.639
<v Speaker 5>because it's funny, you know, for forty injuries. I was

1027
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:40.280
<v Speaker 5>talking to one s guy and he's like, man, the

1028
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 5>best name Max needed versus South Carolina was special teams.

1029
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.400
<v Speaker 5>They had three tackles on special teams of the gunner,

1030
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, and so you know he had to strip

1031
00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 5>back and so again that was pre you know that

1032
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:54.480
<v Speaker 5>nobody really realizes that that injury was early in the season, yeah,

1033
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:57.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, and so again that's a really uncomfortable deal.

1034
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.760
<v Speaker 5>You know that he pushed through all through. But but

1035
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:02.440
<v Speaker 5>I do think they had to, you know, play the

1036
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:04.440
<v Speaker 5>part in it, played the party in the kids tough.

1037
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, he's fought through injuries in the path. You know,

1038
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:08.719
<v Speaker 5>when you're dealing with a show. You're trying to get

1039
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 5>big people on the ground. You know, it plays the part,

1040
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:14.079
<v Speaker 5>It plays the part. But but again I think he's

1041
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, he hears it, you know, just like he

1042
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 5>hears everything. Here are things here when he was a player.

1043
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.039
<v Speaker 5>You know that that that motivate him, you know, that'll

1044
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 5>push him. And again I think he's excited for the challenge.

1045
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Talking with Chris Collins, he is a co defensive coordinator

1046
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and defensive back coach for the Wildcats, and we mentioned

1047
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Dion Walker earlier. Were you surprised Dion? I don't know

1048
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:38.800
<v Speaker 1>if I want to say he slipped to the fourth

1049
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:43.079
<v Speaker 1>round because generally D tackles D linemen are quite a commodity.

1050
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I guess the team and whole kind

1051
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 1>of struggled last year, as we all know. Do you

1052
00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>think that affected his draft status?

1053
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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think I think the good little works

1054
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.079
<v Speaker 5>and mysterious ways, you know, I think it was a

1055
00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:00.960
<v Speaker 5>perfect storm that everything kind of played the way it did.

1056
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:03.679
<v Speaker 5>And you know, and Max and Dion both from the

1057
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 5>same area, right, played at the same university, get to

1058
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:11.199
<v Speaker 5>start their professional career, you know, with the with the

1059
00:55:11.239 --> 00:55:15.039
<v Speaker 5>with the same programs. So you know, I think, you know,

1060
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.159
<v Speaker 5>we can all speculate and do those things, but at

1061
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.599
<v Speaker 5>the end of the day, got an opportunity, you know, man,

1062
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 5>dream came true, get drafted and uh, and I think

1063
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.519
<v Speaker 5>he's gonna go make the most of that. And just

1064
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 5>like Max, I think his best football is in front

1065
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:28.840
<v Speaker 5>of him.

1066
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I love the video clips when they were showing Dion

1067
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 1>and they had that hit that he put on down

1068
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at Florida a couple of years ago when he stoned

1069
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the running back in the backfield. That was That was

1070
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 1>like his coming out party, wasn't it. He signaled to

1071
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>the sec Hello, I'm Deon Walker, and this is what

1072
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:46.079
<v Speaker 1>you can expect.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah he did, he did. He said, yes, I'm a

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00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:49.960
<v Speaker 5>very big human.

1075
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1076
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 5>That's really athletic. That's also got some power behind that athleticism.

1077
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<v Speaker 5>And so I'm here to stay. And he did that.

1078
00:55:57.679 --> 00:55:59.519
<v Speaker 5>And he's an anchor for us in the middle, you know,

1079
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:04.280
<v Speaker 5>three years here and really appreciative for sacrifice and you know, man,

1080
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 5>the hard work that he put in, and excited to

1081
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:08.880
<v Speaker 5>see him continue to do that at the next level

1082
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.000
<v Speaker 5>and continue to elevate and grow.

1083
00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1084
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 5>That's part of it.

1085
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 4>Man.

1086
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.920
<v Speaker 5>The process, man continuing to grow in it. Sometimes it's uncomfortable, right,

1087
00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes it doesn't look how we always envisioned it. But

1088
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 5>the opportunity, the opportunity man continue to grow and continue

1089
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.079
<v Speaker 5>to do that. I think, uh he will take full

1090
00:56:27.079 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 5>advantage of that.

1091
00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah. And and plus, as we mentioned earlier,

1092
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to carry the load on the D

1093
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>line as you know, if you were a first round pick,

1094
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.639
<v Speaker 1>which would have been nice. But uh, he can kind

1095
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.360
<v Speaker 1>of learn at a different pace, can he. I mean,

1096
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>he's gotta he's got to work hard, but he doesn't

1097
00:56:44.440 --> 00:56:46.159
<v Speaker 1>have to go in there and and and you know,

1098
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>be a superstar on day one.

1099
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<v Speaker 5>Man. I think you know, again, I think the program

1100
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.039
<v Speaker 5>that he was drafted to fit, you know, just like

1101
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, White Joe's University of Kentucky. I think I

1102
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:01.440
<v Speaker 5>think a lot of those things. You know, we can't

1103
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 5>line them up any the way we want to, right.

1104
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:06.639
<v Speaker 5>The good lawyers got our plan and we just got

1105
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.519
<v Speaker 5>to trust it. Man. But we look at it, man holistically,

1106
00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, you mentioned a great point. But holistically, man,

1107
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:14.639
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a great fit. Sure, uh, you know,

1108
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 5>for them to go go in there and be really

1109
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 5>successful and you know, again make the most of it.

1110
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Well you're a southern guy. Uh can you imagine playing

1111
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.559
<v Speaker 1>in that weather up there? And fans love it. When

1112
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 1>you talk about a new stadium and do we need

1113
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a dome, they're like, no, you know, they love the

1114
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 1>weather up there. But uh, your kids are gonna have

1115
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 1>to make that adjustment. Rate made it, but I guess

1116
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have to do it as well.

1117
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:41.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a little bit colder, just a little bit.

1118
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1119
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:45.039
<v Speaker 5>We both both of them are from you know, from Michigan, minister,

1120
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:47.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, a little bit further north as well, and

1121
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.840
<v Speaker 5>so you know they're both custom playing weather all the

1122
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 5>way through youth league, you know, and we have some

1123
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:55.599
<v Speaker 5>weather games here, you know, a couple of snow games,

1124
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:58.400
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean. And so you know, uh,

1125
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:00.679
<v Speaker 5>when you're out there that WANs pumping.

1126
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:01.519
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1127
00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, you you tend to kind of forget about it.

1128
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<v Speaker 5>Now when you get over to the sideline, you know,

1129
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 5>it might be a little bit of a reminder because

1130
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 5>you're not out there running around.

1131
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1132
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<v Speaker 1>Man, they got heated benches in the Yeah, yeah, they

1133
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>got it. I hear old school, Uh, Kentucky playing We

1134
00:58:19.480 --> 00:58:21.440
<v Speaker 1>never had those heaters on our sideline.

1135
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:22.320
<v Speaker 5>You know that's right.

1136
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure too, But.

1137
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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky, honestly, I didn't mean to cut you off. I

1138
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.039
<v Speaker 5>think it's harder for the coaching, you know in the

1139
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 5>cold weather, man, you know what I mean. You know,

1140
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 5>I'll just messing with you know, we don't get the

1141
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:38.519
<v Speaker 5>pads on running we did out there standing cold, you know,

1142
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.039
<v Speaker 5>so you gotta you know. But but but now I'm

1143
00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:43.880
<v Speaker 5>just messing. I think those guys will do well. I

1144
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:46.119
<v Speaker 5>think a lot of pieces play into the fit, you know,

1145
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:49.400
<v Speaker 5>and so I know NFL teams, man, they spend a

1146
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:51.519
<v Speaker 5>lot of time and a lot of resources, you know,

1147
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.239
<v Speaker 5>digging back and pulling back those layers saying you know, hey, man,

1148
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 5>what's the what's the backdrop behind just the you know,

1149
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 5>the film that will help them be successful. I think,

1150
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, some of that played into the part, hey,

1151
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 5>where they're from originally?

1152
00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, well before I let you go, you also

1153
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 1>coached Carrington Valentine a place for my Green Bay Packers.

1154
00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 1>I heard from Have you heard from him lately? What's

1155
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 1>the word on him?

1156
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I was actually dming with a CV a couple

1157
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.199
<v Speaker 5>of weeks back. You know, after you know, after we

1158
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:25.440
<v Speaker 5>had our pro date, after got our pro date, and

1159
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:27.800
<v Speaker 5>so kind of leading up into the draft process, checking

1160
00:59:27.800 --> 00:59:30.559
<v Speaker 5>in with him, and he's doing he's doing well, continuing

1161
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 5>to enjoy grow. You know. Uh, you know coach Angeley

1162
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.000
<v Speaker 5>who was here for a while, he's actually a dB

1163
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 5>coach you know at Green Bay, and so we had

1164
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:42.239
<v Speaker 5>a chance to talk throughout the draft process, you know,

1165
00:59:42.480 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 5>of course about Max, but also just you know house

1166
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.719
<v Speaker 5>caringson doing it. He's doing well, and they're excited about

1167
00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, this upcoming season for him, and so I'm

1168
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:50.719
<v Speaker 5>excited for him as well.

1169
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we drafted for offense for a change up in

1170
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Green Bay.

1171
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, and that was a pretty cool moment.

1172
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was surprised. Yeah, first first wide receiver drafted

1173
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:04.599
<v Speaker 1>O two. Obviously we root for Carrington and I am

1174
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:06.440
<v Speaker 1>a shareholder, so I'm an owner, so I need to

1175
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 1>keep tracking things like that. So yeah, you're talking to

1176
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>the NFL owner coach you need to Yes, yes, thanks

1177
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:15.880
<v Speaker 1>for your time and I hope to see you soon.

1178
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.239
<v Speaker 1>But I appreciate all the knowledge. Oh yes, sir, thank

1179
01:00:18.280 --> 01:00:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you can go and up next to Nick Mnjeones show

1180
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.119
<v Speaker 1>here on six thirty w l A.

1181
01:00:23.159 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 6>P shop thinking back takes to tip it down into

1182
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:17.559
<v Speaker 6>donating to BOS.
