WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.919 Kf I AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:07.719 the House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app. 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.720 Talking Cabinets today with my very special in studio guest 4 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.920 John Cordero from the Kitchen Store. John is always looking 5 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:20.719 for new things. We're just talking about trends. Let's talk 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:23.480 about that a little bit. You were just up at 7 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:27.679 the Builders show in Vegas, looking specifically from the cabinet 8 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.399 maker's viewpoint of everything. What'd you see up there that 9 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:35.560 impressed you new or trends that you're seeing. You know, 10 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.200 in the world of cabinets, lighting, light is a big thing. 11 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:42.359 Lighting is coming in strong. We see it a lot 12 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.799 in closets, but in kitchens we're gonna start seeing a 13 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:48.119 lot more lighting. So lighting beyond just the under cabinet 14 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.679 lights on the uppers, or let's say, you know, let's 15 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:53.520 say you've got a higher ceiling and we throw some 16 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:57.359 LED lighting up on top of the uppers. Our clients 17 00:00:57.560 --> 00:01:02.079 love love, love led light down in the kick because 18 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.400 it becomes actually I found it for most of our 19 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:07.400 clients becomes their favorite movie night light. They leave all 20 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.480 the other lights in the kitchen off and they just 21 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:12.760 dim those kick lights. There's just enough glow in the 22 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:16.200 kitchen to come in and make the next microwave popcorn 23 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:19.799 and head back in without disturbing everybody who's watching the movie. 24 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.120 But you're talking about stuff that's internal. Now, open a pantry, 25 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.400 boom lights, Open a pantry, Open your drawer and it 26 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.840 lights up your drawer. Open your doors. You see the 27 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:32.239 light inside. So no more having glass doors and need lighting. 28 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.879 Now you open your doors and bam, there it is. 29 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:39.840 Now we've we've traditionally talked about if you're going to 30 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:44.000 build a traditional drawer box or you know, out of 31 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.680 a wood or wood kind of structure you're building in 32 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:50.519 a cabinet shop, then you know you got your typical, 33 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:54.040 uh you know, low end kind of stapled and glued 34 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:57.799 butt end joint drawer boxes not our favorites at all. 35 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:01.879 If you're going to do one, you're looking for dovetailed drawers, 36 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.680 hardwood box sides and dovetail drawers because you're not relying 37 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.080 on any physical connection there. You've got those teeth that 38 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:12.319 are interlocking and that drawer just never comes apart but 39 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.680 going and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. That's literally 40 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.879 when it comes to a wood drawer box. There you go, 41 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:23.280 that's that's the that's the summit of that. But you're 42 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.639 seeing drawerboxes made out of all sorts of materials. 43 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:28.919 Now we're seeing them out of metal, metal, aluminum. They're 44 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:29.919 just look amazing. 45 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:31.919 A lot of these coming out of Europe these days. 46 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:33.000 Europe inspired. 47 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.319 Yeah, we kept talking about it earlier in the show 48 00:02:35.400 --> 00:02:39.159 European style cabinets. So Europe is inspiring a lot of 49 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:41.879 the new styles that are coming out. You got that 50 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:43.400 nice flat modern look. 51 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.479 Yeah, Now that's another thing we were talking about for 52 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:54.039 a while, the flat, very sleek modern look. You know, 53 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:56.000 some people were picking it up and like, I guess 54 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:59.080 if you're an ultra modern contemporary kind of a vibe, 55 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.319 that's fine. And a lot of people were letting go though, 56 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:06.599 because those materials they think of shiny melamines and for 57 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.759 micas and what you know, that kind of stuff, and 58 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.919 it feels cold, feels a little you know, antiseptic, a 59 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.719 little clinical. Uh, And I get that, I totally get that, 60 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.479 but not these days. It doesn't have to be that 61 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:22.879 way these days. Now now you can have the clean lines, 62 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:27.960 but these organic woods and these deep rich colors and 63 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:32.280 so that sense of like woodiness to a kitchen can 64 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:36.680 totally happen in a completely contemporary, clean line looking kitchen 65 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:37.120 these days. 66 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:38.960 Yeah, you get the beauty of the wood, the way 67 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.199 the mood the wood moves and everything. So it's it's 68 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:44.759 amazing with the things are coming out of Europe with 69 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:45.520 these panels. 70 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.719 And we were talking last segment about you know, like 71 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.599 the advantage of soft clothes, hardware and stuff. But you 72 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:54.000 you what you saw somebody advertising was it was a 73 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.240 forty eight inch base draw forty eight inch wide cabinet 74 00:03:57.319 --> 00:03:59.319 with a four foot wide drawer. 75 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.759 Yeah, they jumped inside the drawer. You're talking to a 76 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:05.719 grown man, probably maybe about one hundred and eighty pounds 77 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.039 jumped in the drawer, got in there, and the drawer 78 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:13.599 still functioned perfectly. The stuff that these manufacturers are bringing 79 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.399 out when it comes to hardware is just getting better. 80 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.240 And that's one thing I like doing. I like going 81 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.519 out going to conferences and learning. Then I want to 82 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.800 bring it back into the kitchen store, things that people 83 00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:25.800 don't really get to see out there. I like bringing 84 00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:28.279 new stuff in. That's what I love about you guys too. 85 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:30.439 That's why I keep sending people down. I'm like, you know, 86 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.800 you go here, you could see some things. You go there, 87 00:04:33.800 --> 00:04:36.160 you could see some things. But I know that you've 88 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.399 got the whole spectrum there, and you're always trying to 89 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.839 bring in the newest stuff so that everybody has all 90 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.079 of the options available to them. One thing I'm doing 91 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.160 at the kitchen store says something new guy there. I'm 92 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.160 trying to upgrade the showroom, trying to bring in the 93 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.600 new trends that are coming in, new stuff that's out 94 00:04:51.600 --> 00:04:53.720 there that people really don't get to see, stuff we 95 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:55.560 get to see on social media, trying to bring it 96 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.759 into the kitchen store. That's why we like to encourage 97 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:01.160 people open every drawer, try something different. You'll be surprised 98 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:02.279 what you find in our store. 99 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.680 Yeah, it's shocking how it can be changed. Let's talk 100 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:08.240 about the trend of trend. It's not a fad by 101 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:11.519 any means, but this new hardware, all of this kind 102 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:15.519 of stuff, a lot of people I would say still 103 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:19.639 still clearly well over. I don't have a scientific basis 104 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:21.680 for saying this. I'm going to say well over eighty 105 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:26.439 percent of people have older style kitchen cabinets in which 106 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:30.240 they're base cabinets. It's a drawer and door drawer and 107 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:34.040 door down below, right, and maybe if they've upgraded along 108 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.199 the way, when they open the door down below, there 109 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:41.160 may be a rollout shelf right. But by and large 110 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:45.120 in the industry we've kind of abandoned drawers, I mean 111 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:48.800 doors down below. In base camp it's all drawers now right. 112 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:53.920 I mean it's not an absolute rule, but you guys, 113 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.279 I know for a factor, designing more base cabinet drawer 114 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.959 full of drawers. And by drawers though, I mean big, 115 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.120 heavy bearing pot nine inch deep pot drawers that I 116 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:07.680 can put all my pots and pans in. And the 117 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:12.199 advantages Why open a door and then reach down and 118 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:15.120 even pull out a glide when you can just slide 119 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.480 the drawer open, then there it is all exposed. 120 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.279 Biggest advantage. I tell people, you remember what you have, 121 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.040 so you have your old doors, you open your doors, 122 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.439 you have your just shelf. You forget what you have 123 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:28.399 in the back with drawers, it's right there, it's easy 124 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:28.759 to grab. 125 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.360 It all comes out. And so when we say full exposure, 126 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:35.079 we're talking about the entire drawer coming out of the 127 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.399 cabinet box. So you can just look down on the 128 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.839 top of it and see everything in the drawer, even 129 00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:40.720 the stuff all the way. 130 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:41.959 At the back. No word luxury. 131 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:46.120 No, that's standard, that's standard, standard stuff. All right, we 132 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.199 got to talk about more about that, and we will 133 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:49.319 do it right after it. 134 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.800 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 135 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.279 KFI AM six forty. 136 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:01.720 I had my megaphone button pressed. Would you like to 137 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:02.319 hear that again? 138 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:03.120 Hello? 139 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.600 I like to use that little feature when I say 140 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:13.519 words like sign because it sounds like I have more authority. 141 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.360 But I accidentally pressed it, and all of a sudden, 142 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.000 now I'm in an echo chamber. All right, Hey, Hi, 143 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:23.360 can'fi Dean Sharp the house whisper, Welcome back. We're talking 144 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:27.759 cabinets with my very special in studio guest, John Cordero. Yes, 145 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:30.720 I took less calls today than normal because John and 146 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.160 I have just so many things to talk about and 147 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.639 I want to get as much about cabinets out as 148 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.800 I possibly can. So I apologize for not taking more callers. 149 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.600 And I also do not apologize because we're just trying 150 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:45.399 to cover and we've got so many cool things to 151 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.800 talk about. So we've been talking about new trends and 152 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:56.600 new features. We would be completely neglectful of the majority 153 00:07:56.879 --> 00:08:02.800 of kitchen cabinet shoppers or homeowners who are looking to 154 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.680 redo their cabinets, if we did not address you and 155 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:12.560 I the ever plaguing question of the blind corner. Okay, 156 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.519 right right, I mean tell me we don't need to 157 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:19.040 talk about that, right, the blind corner? What is the 158 00:08:19.079 --> 00:08:21.680 blind corner? Where you all know what the blind corner is? 159 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:25.079 If you've got a kitchen that has a corner like 160 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:28.399 it turns ninety degrees anywhere in your kitchen. Some of 161 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:30.000 you have a couple of them because you've got a 162 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:36.480 horseshoe shaped kitchen cabinet. But configuration. But when a base 163 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:40.080 cabinet twenty four inch based cabinet runs into a corner 164 00:08:40.120 --> 00:08:42.639 and then turns a corner and then more twenty four 165 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.360 inch based cabinets take off, you got a twenty four 166 00:08:45.440 --> 00:08:48.360 by twenty four inch hole back in the corner there 167 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.360 one of those cabinets. Well, it doesn't it's not a rule. 168 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.679 I mean, you could just leave it blank and just 169 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.919 ignore it. Some people, out of frustration of their previous kitchens, 170 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:02.919 have chosen to do just that, and you're like, nope, 171 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.159 not going to be there's not going to be anything 172 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:07.120 back there. The two cabinets are going to touch on 173 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:10.240 their front edge, and my life is going to go 174 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:12.759 on without frustration. Because I had that for a while, 175 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.279 and I completely forgot that I had a waffle maker. 176 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.519 It lived back in there for eighteen years. I never 177 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:22.440 saw it, and eventually I realized, Oh, when I was 178 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:25.120 cleaning out my kitchen, Oh, the waffle maker's back here. 179 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:29.480 So it's a hard to access area. It's not easy 180 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:33.240 to reach. In the eighties came along, you know, the 181 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:38.360 lazy Susan corner with the double door with the extra 182 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.240 set of hinges that gets all floppy and weird and 183 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:46.679 that people end up cursing. And I know they're still 184 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.840 very popular, those round turnstyle, you know, with the little 185 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.519 wedge cut out of them, the pie shape. 186 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:53.960 There you go. 187 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:57.960 But the point is, the blind corner has always been 188 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:01.919 a problem that gets has in the past been solved 189 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.840 in various ways. We live in the golden age of 190 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:10.159 the blind corner. We have here's here's you can announce 191 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:16.120 to the world today officially that mankind has solved the 192 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:19.440 blind corner problem. And the reason I say that is 193 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:23.879 because there's so many hardware alternatives to deal with the 194 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:27.679 blind corner. Give us at least a couple. It's getting 195 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:28.279 better too. 196 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:30.360 I'll tell you that there's certain things that we don't 197 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.919 even know about that are out there for the blind corner. 198 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.039 But your biggest ones are your LeMans. The Lamon's a 199 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:40.200 any shape that comes out, kind of swings out real nice. 200 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:42.320 It's just a single That's what I've got in mind. 201 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:46.960 I've got I've got a Laman's corner because the Lamans 202 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:50.759 doesn't take it full advantage of every square inch of 203 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.799 space back there, but it takes advantage of a lot 204 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.360 of it. And it's on this swing arm and you 205 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:59.759 just open up one side, one door on one side, 206 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.960 grab the front of this. Uh is it technically a shelf? 207 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:04.759 What do we call it? 208 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:05.919 Yeah? 209 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:08.440 I guess yeah, it's kind of a shelf. You grab 210 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.360 it and the whole thing comes out, the whole blind 211 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.799 corner disgorges itself outside, and so yeah, we load it 212 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.440 up because there's nothing I can't get to right now. 213 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.240 It's got some curves on it because of the way 214 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.399 it moves out, and that's why it doesn't take full event. 215 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.440 But there's also like the revsh shelf, a magic shelf, 216 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:29.799 those hay ful of makes them too, where literally one 217 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:33.120 thing slides out, slides over, the next thing slides over, 218 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:36.720 and it's it's taking advantage of every square inch of 219 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:39.360 the back. It's getting better. So what have you seen? 220 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:40.519 What have you heard? Tell me? 221 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:43.120 So while I was in Europe, we got to see 222 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.240 this one corner where it's actually on the countertop. So 223 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.039 it's a mechanical device that goes up and down. So 224 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.799 imagine you have your blender in the corner. It just 225 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:53.960 goes down. You never get to see it, but it 226 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.759 goes in the corner, beautiful thing. Then you just press 227 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.200 a button, comes right up. 228 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:00.759 So I never thought that that it's a great place 229 00:12:00.799 --> 00:12:05.480 to put like an elevator platform, exactly what it just appears. Yep, 230 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.000 up it comes. There are so many options now some 231 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.000 see some people are thinking right now, like, ah, that's ridiculous. 232 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.840 I would never want to do that with my That's fine, 233 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.440 that's fine, but some people would. The point is there 234 00:12:18.440 --> 00:12:21.679 are so many options these days, so many options. Like 235 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:24.279 Tina and I chose not to do the full revishelf 236 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.000 thing because we got lots of storage and we don't 237 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.039 have that much stuff, and so we didn't need to, 238 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.879 you know, we didn't need to take advantage of every 239 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:32.799 but we didn't want to leave the corner blind. So 240 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:36.840 the Lamans was a perfect a perfect option. 241 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.440 That's a great choice. The lemons. You can't go wrong 242 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.080 with the Lamans. It's either you forget what you have 243 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:43.879 back there or you bring it out. 244 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:47.759 Yeah, it just all comes out. So blind corner one 245 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.480 of the most difficult things traditionally to deal with, Like, 246 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:51.480 how are we going to deal with that? 247 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:53.200 Solved? Solved? 248 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:58.519 Are there any other problematic areas in the kitchen these days? Well, 249 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.000 let's stick with the corner. Well, the lazy suits and 250 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:03.240 the pie Yeah, I started to buy anymore. Have you 251 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.360 seen the new drawers that are in the corner, No 252 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:07.919 drawer boxes that are in the corner. Still got the 253 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.600 thirty six by thirty six cabinet in the corner. Instead 254 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.440 of putting that pie cut, you put drawers. You go 255 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.159 to three drawers, you go to four drawers. You use 256 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.080 a little space. But oh oh okay, yeah, so yeah, yeah, no, 257 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:23.639 absolutely that I've seen. Yes, the angle drawers, drawers that 258 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:26.159 are coming out of the forty five out of the corner, 259 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:27.799 full extension drawers. 260 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:30.559 Full extension there twenty four inches indeed, yeah, which is 261 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:32.679 even better, which is a lot of space and a 262 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.080 very clean look in the corner, super clean look in 263 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:38.080 the corner. And here's a better one. The doors, you know, 264 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.200 the ones you say you hate, the bifold doors, They're 265 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.519 coming out with better doors that open up kind of 266 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:47.159 like just open up, spread open, real nice, even better 267 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:48.879 to get in on the inside, as opposed to that 268 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:52.399 bifold door where you slam on your neighboring doors. 269 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:55.360 That's that's my issue with the bifol doors is the 270 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:57.279 fact that you've got an extra set of hinges and 271 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.600 as you're closing it, it swings out and and you know, 272 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:02.320 marks up the other door next to it. 273 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:05.919 Better hardware, Suasuni is coming down with some beautiful hardware 274 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:09.320 when it comes to the corners. I'll have it soon 275 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:11.759 at the kitchen store. I want to bring that in. 276 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:17.960 And then specialty inserts like Tina had mentioned, the the 277 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.639 mixer stand. Okay, tell everybody about what they can do 278 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:24.080 with a mixer. Like people are like, I need room 279 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.879 on the counter for my mixer. Well, not necessarily. You 280 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.679 don't have to necessarily have to make room for it 281 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:29.240 on the counter. 282 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:31.240 No, the mixers are big and people don't want them 283 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:33.559 on their counter You like having open counters now, so 284 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:34.200 the mixers. 285 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:37.480 But mixers are also heavy and so and so, especially 286 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:40.120 older folks don't necessarily want to be lugging a mixer 287 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:41.919 out of a base cabinet. 288 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.440 No, we have a platform that kind of comes out 289 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:46.960 evens out with your countertop. You don't even have to 290 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:48.879 take it off of the platform. You have it, just 291 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:51.720 the plug, plug it into your wall. Your mixer's there. 292 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.240 The mixer forever lives on this platform, forever lives in there, 293 00:14:55.279 --> 00:14:58.919 which kind of hydraulically slides down into the base cabinet. 294 00:14:58.919 --> 00:15:00.679 And when you need it, you open up the drawer 295 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.639 and out it comes, and it comes up and it 296 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:04.720 locks and you just work with it there. 297 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.159 And that's one thing where you work with Right, I 298 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.360 have a mixer, Where do I put it? Want to 299 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:11.840 build a cabinets for it? And let's make sure where 300 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:14.519 there's a plug in the back. Make life easy. 301 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:19.519 What about places to store baking sheets, spices? 302 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:24.559 We have that too, Spice rollouts, nice little compartments definitely 303 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:27.279 always next to the stove, little compartment slides out. You 304 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.279 got your spices, put your spices in there, even for drawers. 305 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.919 You could kind of do a little spice drawer box 306 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.559 where you line up your spices all nice and beautiful 307 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:38.559 and then quick access to them. That's what I am. 308 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:41.279 We have our cook top on the end of the 309 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:45.960 island and the first drawer under it, full extension, thirty 310 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:49.039 six inch wide drawer, nothing but spices. 311 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:50.919 How easy is it to go through your spices? 312 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:52.679 Oh my gosh, it's the easiest thing in the world, 313 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.639 because Tina decided to customize our spice system when we 314 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:57.799 redesign the kitchen. 315 00:15:57.879 --> 00:15:58.039 Right. 316 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:00.759 So that's the other thing with spy that's a pain 317 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.440 in the butt is that you go to the store 318 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.639 and you know that spice bottle is that size and 319 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:08.679 this one. I mean some of them are nice, some 320 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:10.919 of them are like all uniform, but you have to 321 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:13.480 buy within that brand then, right, so she can buy 322 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:16.519 any spice she wants from anywhere, because you know, it 323 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:18.759 was like I want to say, it was like fifty 324 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:23.799 bucks on Amazon to buy one hundred spice bottles and labels. 325 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.039 And now they're all labeled with our spices and it 326 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:30.799 doesn't matter what our refill bottles look like. They live 327 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.159 in the pantry somewhere and when the cinnamon gets low, 328 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:36.120 she you know, just refills it. But you know, when 329 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.639 I open it up, it's all alphabetized three rows of spice. 330 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.279 I think we have one hundred spices in there, and 331 00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.600 they're all just facing me right where I am wanting 332 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.559 to tap one in to the recipe or into the 333 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.600 pot or the pan or whatever. It is just the 334 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:53.759 greatest thing in the world. 335 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.240 Let me ask you, how does that make you feel 336 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:56.879 nice and organized? Oh? 337 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.080 It just it makes you feel great. It makes you 338 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.600 feel great, makes you feel like you want to be 339 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:02.679 in the kitchen. You know, you want to cook more. 340 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.319 You want to It is it is, And I know 341 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.200 what you're getting at. That's the idea, right, the idea 342 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.799 of being able to customize anything. Like you and I 343 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:12.640 were talking about, we should talk about a little more 344 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:16.880 after the break. The idea of customizing anything is the 345 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:20.519 ultimate luxury. It's the ultimate luxury. And I don't mean 346 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:23.720 it's luxury in the sense that you're paying luxury prices 347 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:28.599 for luxury materials. It's the customization is the luxury because 348 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.200 it just fits your life hand in glove. 349 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:32.119 It's just there. 350 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:33.839 It is, And you know, and so when I cook 351 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:35.759 and I just reach down and I'm like, all right, 352 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.079 and I need some oregano and I need some and 353 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:39.920 there it is and I do it and it goes 354 00:17:39.960 --> 00:17:43.000 away and it's just clean and clear and and my 355 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:44.359 my mind stays clear. 356 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:46.759 And I love. 357 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:50.200 Cooking in my kitchen, ease of life, love it, love cooking. 358 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.240 It's just just it's just the greatest thing ever. That's 359 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:57.039 that's that's what it affords. It organizes, uh, and the 360 00:17:57.119 --> 00:17:59.000 and the other fats. You know what We're going along, 361 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:02.079 So we're going to talk about this on the other side. 362 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.599 I want to talk about just the idea that a 363 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.119 if you were to replace and I've done this mathematically 364 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.119 with clients to show them sometimes, if you were to 365 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:16.480 replace pretty much an existing kitchen one for one, you know, 366 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:22.039 with new contemporary all access cabinets, how much additional storage 367 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:24.920 can we get in that exact same kitchen just by 368 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:28.000 renewing the cabinets. Don't say it now, let's talk about 369 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:29.640 it on the other side of the break. We will 370 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.559 be back with my special guest, John Cordero from the 371 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:33.480 Kitchen Store. 372 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.079 You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from 373 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:39.640 KFI AM six forty. 374 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:44.039 You are home with Dean Sharp the house whisper. 375 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:44.599 That's me. 376 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:49.480 It is a beautiful spring day here in sunny southern California. 377 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:52.880 I hope the weather is treating you well wherever you 378 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:56.359 find yourself. I know that it's not beautifully sunny everywhere 379 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.720 across the US, but I hope you're warm or cool, comfortable. 380 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.359 I hope you're just comfortable, whatever that means. And I 381 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.319 hope that you've got big plans for the day, because hey, 382 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.400 it's a day. It's a day, you know, as a 383 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:14.000 good friend of mine likes to say, any day you 384 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:17.000 wake up and find yourself above ground, that's a good day. 385 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:19.480 And so here we are, and we want to make 386 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:21.599 the most of it. We are making the most of 387 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:24.759 our time on the show today talking cabinets, which is 388 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.160 a massive subject and I think we're trying to cover 389 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:29.720 as much as we can in as meaningful a way 390 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.440 as we can with my special in studio guest John 391 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:38.000 Cordero from The Kitchen Store. John is a cabinet expert 392 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:44.359 par excellence and the Kitchen Store is, as you should 393 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:50.519 know by now, the best, my favorite kitchen design showroom 394 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:53.519 in Southern California. So John is here and we're just 395 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:59.279 picking his brain, taking full advantage of his expertise. Right 396 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:01.519 before the break, I mentioned the fact that, you know, 397 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:04.839 we were talking about cabinet efficiency and all these improvements, 398 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:08.759 and I'm not going to hold you to a percentage 399 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:12.680 or anything like that, right, just but I tell our 400 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.400 clients all the time, Hey, you just if you were 401 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:18.119