Speaker 1: Kf I AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp,
Speaker 1: the House Whisper on demand on the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 1: Talking Cabinets today with my very special in studio guest
Speaker 1: John Cordero from the Kitchen Store. John is always looking
Speaker 1: for new things. We're just talking about trends. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about that a little bit. You were just up at
Speaker 1: the Builders show in Vegas, looking specifically from the cabinet
Speaker 1: maker's viewpoint of everything. What'd you see up there that
Speaker 1: impressed you new or trends that you're seeing. You know,
Speaker 1: in the world of cabinets, lighting, light is a big thing.
Speaker 1: Lighting is coming in strong. We see it a lot
Speaker 1: in closets, but in kitchens we're gonna start seeing a
Speaker 1: lot more lighting. So lighting beyond just the under cabinet
Speaker 1: lights on the uppers, or let's say, you know, let's
Speaker 1: say you've got a higher ceiling and we throw some
Speaker 1: LED lighting up on top of the uppers. Our clients
Speaker 1: love love, love led light down in the kick because
Speaker 1: it becomes actually I found it for most of our
Speaker 1: clients becomes their favorite movie night light. They leave all
Speaker 1: the other lights in the kitchen off and they just
Speaker 1: dim those kick lights. There's just enough glow in the
Speaker 1: kitchen to come in and make the next microwave popcorn
Speaker 1: and head back in without disturbing everybody who's watching the movie.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about stuff that's internal. Now, open a pantry,
Speaker 1: boom lights, Open a pantry, Open your drawer and it
Speaker 1: lights up your drawer. Open your doors. You see the
Speaker 1: light inside. So no more having glass doors and need lighting.
Speaker 1: Now you open your doors and bam, there it is.
Speaker 1: Now we've we've traditionally talked about if you're going to
Speaker 1: build a traditional drawer box or you know, out of
Speaker 1: a wood or wood kind of structure you're building in
Speaker 1: a cabinet shop, then you know you got your typical,
Speaker 1: uh you know, low end kind of stapled and glued
Speaker 1: butt end joint drawer boxes not our favorites at all.
Speaker 1: If you're going to do one, you're looking for dovetailed drawers,
Speaker 1: hardwood box sides and dovetail drawers because you're not relying
Speaker 1: on any physical connection there. You've got those teeth that
Speaker 1: are interlocking and that drawer just never comes apart but
Speaker 1: going and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. That's literally
Speaker 1: when it comes to a wood drawer box. There you go,
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the summit of that. But you're
Speaker 1: seeing drawerboxes made out of all sorts of materials.
Speaker 2: Now we're seeing them out of metal, metal, aluminum. They're
Speaker 2: just look amazing.
Speaker 1: A lot of these coming out of Europe these days.
Speaker 1: Europe inspired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we kept talking about it earlier in the show
Speaker 2: European style cabinets. So Europe is inspiring a lot of
Speaker 2: the new styles that are coming out. You got that
Speaker 2: nice flat modern look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that's another thing we were talking about for
Speaker 1: a while, the flat, very sleek modern look. You know,
Speaker 1: some people were picking it up and like, I guess
Speaker 1: if you're an ultra modern contemporary kind of a vibe,
Speaker 1: that's fine. And a lot of people were letting go though,
Speaker 1: because those materials they think of shiny melamines and for
Speaker 1: micas and what you know, that kind of stuff, and
Speaker 1: it feels cold, feels a little you know, antiseptic, a
Speaker 1: little clinical. Uh, And I get that, I totally get that,
Speaker 1: but not these days. It doesn't have to be that
Speaker 1: way these days. Now now you can have the clean lines,
Speaker 1: but these organic woods and these deep rich colors and
Speaker 1: so that sense of like woodiness to a kitchen can
Speaker 1: totally happen in a completely contemporary, clean line looking kitchen
Speaker 1: these days.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get the beauty of the wood, the way
Speaker 2: the mood the wood moves and everything. So it's it's
Speaker 2: amazing with the things are coming out of Europe with
Speaker 2: these panels.
Speaker 1: And we were talking last segment about you know, like
Speaker 1: the advantage of soft clothes, hardware and stuff. But you
Speaker 1: you what you saw somebody advertising was it was a
Speaker 1: forty eight inch base draw forty eight inch wide cabinet
Speaker 1: with a four foot wide drawer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they jumped inside the drawer. You're talking to a
Speaker 2: grown man, probably maybe about one hundred and eighty pounds
Speaker 2: jumped in the drawer, got in there, and the drawer
Speaker 2: still functioned perfectly. The stuff that these manufacturers are bringing
Speaker 2: out when it comes to hardware is just getting better.
Speaker 2: And that's one thing I like doing. I like going
Speaker 2: out going to conferences and learning. Then I want to
Speaker 2: bring it back into the kitchen store, things that people
Speaker 2: don't really get to see out there. I like bringing
Speaker 2: new stuff in. That's what I love about you guys too.
Speaker 2: That's why I keep sending people down. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: you go here, you could see some things. You go there,
Speaker 2: you could see some things. But I know that you've
Speaker 2: got the whole spectrum there, and you're always trying to
Speaker 2: bring in the newest stuff so that everybody has all
Speaker 2: of the options available to them. One thing I'm doing
Speaker 2: at the kitchen store says something new guy there. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to upgrade the showroom, trying to bring in the
Speaker 2: new trends that are coming in, new stuff that's out
Speaker 2: there that people really don't get to see, stuff we
Speaker 2: get to see on social media, trying to bring it
Speaker 2: into the kitchen store. That's why we like to encourage
Speaker 2: people open every drawer, try something different. You'll be surprised
Speaker 2: what you find in our store.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's shocking how it can be changed. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the trend of trend. It's not a fad by
Speaker 1: any means, but this new hardware, all of this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, a lot of people I would say still
Speaker 1: still clearly well over. I don't have a scientific basis
Speaker 1: for saying this. I'm going to say well over eighty
Speaker 1: percent of people have older style kitchen cabinets in which
Speaker 1: they're base cabinets. It's a drawer and door drawer and
Speaker 1: door down below, right, and maybe if they've upgraded along
Speaker 1: the way, when they open the door down below, there
Speaker 1: may be a rollout shelf right. But by and large
Speaker 1: in the industry we've kind of abandoned drawers, I mean
Speaker 1: doors down below. In base camp it's all drawers now right.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not an absolute rule, but you guys,
Speaker 1: I know for a factor, designing more base cabinet drawer
Speaker 1: full of drawers. And by drawers though, I mean big,
Speaker 1: heavy bearing pot nine inch deep pot drawers that I
Speaker 1: can put all my pots and pans in. And the
Speaker 1: advantages Why open a door and then reach down and
Speaker 1: even pull out a glide when you can just slide
Speaker 1: the drawer open, then there it is all exposed.
Speaker 2: Biggest advantage. I tell people, you remember what you have,
Speaker 2: so you have your old doors, you open your doors,
Speaker 2: you have your just shelf. You forget what you have
Speaker 2: in the back with drawers, it's right there, it's easy
Speaker 2: to grab.
Speaker 1: It all comes out. And so when we say full exposure,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the entire drawer coming out of the
Speaker 1: cabinet box. So you can just look down on the
Speaker 1: top of it and see everything in the drawer, even
Speaker 1: the stuff all the way.
Speaker 2: At the back. No word luxury.
Speaker 1: No, that's standard, that's standard, standard stuff. All right, we
Speaker 1: got to talk about more about that, and we will
Speaker 1: do it right after it.
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Speaker 1: I had my megaphone button pressed. Would you like to
Speaker 1: hear that again?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: I like to use that little feature when I say
Speaker 1: words like sign because it sounds like I have more authority.
Speaker 1: But I accidentally pressed it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now I'm in an echo chamber. All right, Hey, Hi,
Speaker 1: can'fi Dean Sharp the house whisper, Welcome back. We're talking
Speaker 1: cabinets with my very special in studio guest, John Cordero. Yes,
Speaker 1: I took less calls today than normal because John and
Speaker 1: I have just so many things to talk about and
Speaker 1: I want to get as much about cabinets out as
Speaker 1: I possibly can. So I apologize for not taking more callers.
Speaker 1: And I also do not apologize because we're just trying
Speaker 1: to cover and we've got so many cool things to
Speaker 1: talk about. So we've been talking about new trends and
Speaker 1: new features. We would be completely neglectful of the majority
Speaker 1: of kitchen cabinet shoppers or homeowners who are looking to
Speaker 1: redo their cabinets, if we did not address you and
Speaker 1: I the ever plaguing question of the blind corner. Okay,
Speaker 1: right right, I mean tell me we don't need to
Speaker 1: talk about that, right, the blind corner? What is the
Speaker 1: blind corner? Where you all know what the blind corner is?
Speaker 1: If you've got a kitchen that has a corner like
Speaker 1: it turns ninety degrees anywhere in your kitchen. Some of
Speaker 1: you have a couple of them because you've got a
Speaker 1: horseshoe shaped kitchen cabinet. But configuration. But when a base
Speaker 1: cabinet twenty four inch based cabinet runs into a corner
Speaker 1: and then turns a corner and then more twenty four
Speaker 1: inch based cabinets take off, you got a twenty four
Speaker 1: by twenty four inch hole back in the corner there
Speaker 1: one of those cabinets. Well, it doesn't it's not a rule.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could just leave it blank and just
Speaker 1: ignore it. Some people, out of frustration of their previous kitchens,
Speaker 1: have chosen to do just that, and you're like, nope,
Speaker 1: not going to be there's not going to be anything
Speaker 1: back there. The two cabinets are going to touch on
Speaker 1: their front edge, and my life is going to go
Speaker 1: on without frustration. Because I had that for a while,
Speaker 1: and I completely forgot that I had a waffle maker.
Speaker 1: It lived back in there for eighteen years. I never
Speaker 1: saw it, and eventually I realized, Oh, when I was
Speaker 1: cleaning out my kitchen, Oh, the waffle maker's back here.
Speaker 1: So it's a hard to access area. It's not easy
Speaker 1: to reach. In the eighties came along, you know, the
Speaker 1: lazy Susan corner with the double door with the extra
Speaker 1: set of hinges that gets all floppy and weird and
Speaker 1: that people end up cursing. And I know they're still
Speaker 1: very popular, those round turnstyle, you know, with the little
Speaker 1: wedge cut out of them, the pie shape.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: But the point is, the blind corner has always been
Speaker 1: a problem that gets has in the past been solved
Speaker 1: in various ways. We live in the golden age of
Speaker 1: the blind corner. We have here's here's you can announce
Speaker 1: to the world today officially that mankind has solved the
Speaker 1: blind corner problem. And the reason I say that is
Speaker 1: because there's so many hardware alternatives to deal with the
Speaker 1: blind corner. Give us at least a couple. It's getting
Speaker 1: better too.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that there's certain things that we don't
Speaker 2: even know about that are out there for the blind corner.
Speaker 2: But your biggest ones are your LeMans. The Lamon's a
Speaker 2: any shape that comes out, kind of swings out real nice.
Speaker 1: It's just a single That's what I've got in mind.
Speaker 1: I've got I've got a Laman's corner because the Lamans
Speaker 1: doesn't take it full advantage of every square inch of
Speaker 1: space back there, but it takes advantage of a lot
Speaker 1: of it. And it's on this swing arm and you
Speaker 1: just open up one side, one door on one side,
Speaker 1: grab the front of this. Uh is it technically a shelf?
Speaker 1: What do we call it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, it's kind of a shelf. You grab
Speaker 1: it and the whole thing comes out, the whole blind
Speaker 1: corner disgorges itself outside, and so yeah, we load it
Speaker 1: up because there's nothing I can't get to right now.
Speaker 1: It's got some curves on it because of the way
Speaker 1: it moves out, and that's why it doesn't take full event.
Speaker 1: But there's also like the revsh shelf, a magic shelf,
Speaker 1: those hay ful of makes them too, where literally one
Speaker 1: thing slides out, slides over, the next thing slides over,
Speaker 1: and it's it's taking advantage of every square inch of
Speaker 1: the back. It's getting better. So what have you seen?
Speaker 1: What have you heard? Tell me?
Speaker 2: So while I was in Europe, we got to see
Speaker 2: this one corner where it's actually on the countertop. So
Speaker 2: it's a mechanical device that goes up and down. So
Speaker 2: imagine you have your blender in the corner. It just
Speaker 2: goes down. You never get to see it, but it
Speaker 2: goes in the corner, beautiful thing. Then you just press
Speaker 2: a button, comes right up.
Speaker 1: So I never thought that that it's a great place
Speaker 1: to put like an elevator platform, exactly what it just appears. Yep,
Speaker 1: up it comes. There are so many options now some
Speaker 1: see some people are thinking right now, like, ah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I would never want to do that with my That's fine,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but some people would. The point is there
Speaker 1: are so many options these days, so many options. Like
Speaker 1: Tina and I chose not to do the full revishelf
Speaker 1: thing because we got lots of storage and we don't
Speaker 1: have that much stuff, and so we didn't need to,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't need to take advantage of every
Speaker 1: but we didn't want to leave the corner blind. So
Speaker 1: the Lamans was a perfect a perfect option.
Speaker 2: That's a great choice. The lemons. You can't go wrong
Speaker 2: with the Lamans. It's either you forget what you have
Speaker 2: back there or you bring it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just all comes out. So blind corner one
Speaker 1: of the most difficult things traditionally to deal with, Like,
Speaker 1: how are we going to deal with that?
Speaker 2: Solved? Solved?
Speaker 1: Are there any other problematic areas in the kitchen these days? Well,
Speaker 1: let's stick with the corner. Well, the lazy suits and
Speaker 1: the pie Yeah, I started to buy anymore. Have you
Speaker 1: seen the new drawers that are in the corner, No
Speaker 1: drawer boxes that are in the corner. Still got the
Speaker 1: thirty six by thirty six cabinet in the corner. Instead
Speaker 1: of putting that pie cut, you put drawers. You go
Speaker 1: to three drawers, you go to four drawers. You use
Speaker 1: a little space. But oh oh okay, yeah, so yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: absolutely that I've seen. Yes, the angle drawers, drawers that
Speaker 1: are coming out of the forty five out of the corner,
Speaker 1: full extension drawers.
Speaker 2: Full extension there twenty four inches indeed, yeah, which is
Speaker 2: even better, which is a lot of space and a
Speaker 2: very clean look in the corner, super clean look in
Speaker 2: the corner. And here's a better one. The doors, you know,
Speaker 2: the ones you say you hate, the bifold doors, They're
Speaker 2: coming out with better doors that open up kind of
Speaker 2: like just open up, spread open, real nice, even better
Speaker 2: to get in on the inside, as opposed to that
Speaker 2: bifold door where you slam on your neighboring doors.
Speaker 1: That's that's my issue with the bifol doors is the
Speaker 1: fact that you've got an extra set of hinges and
Speaker 1: as you're closing it, it swings out and and you know,
Speaker 1: marks up the other door next to it.
Speaker 2: Better hardware, Suasuni is coming down with some beautiful hardware
Speaker 2: when it comes to the corners. I'll have it soon
Speaker 2: at the kitchen store. I want to bring that in.
Speaker 1: And then specialty inserts like Tina had mentioned, the the
Speaker 1: mixer stand. Okay, tell everybody about what they can do
Speaker 1: with a mixer. Like people are like, I need room
Speaker 1: on the counter for my mixer. Well, not necessarily. You
Speaker 1: don't have to necessarily have to make room for it
Speaker 1: on the counter.
Speaker 2: No, the mixers are big and people don't want them
Speaker 2: on their counter You like having open counters now, so
Speaker 2: the mixers.
Speaker 1: But mixers are also heavy and so and so, especially
Speaker 1: older folks don't necessarily want to be lugging a mixer
Speaker 1: out of a base cabinet.
Speaker 2: No, we have a platform that kind of comes out
Speaker 2: evens out with your countertop. You don't even have to
Speaker 2: take it off of the platform. You have it, just
Speaker 2: the plug, plug it into your wall. Your mixer's there.
Speaker 1: The mixer forever lives on this platform, forever lives in there,
Speaker 1: which kind of hydraulically slides down into the base cabinet.
Speaker 1: And when you need it, you open up the drawer
Speaker 1: and out it comes, and it comes up and it
Speaker 1: locks and you just work with it there.
Speaker 2: And that's one thing where you work with Right, I
Speaker 2: have a mixer, Where do I put it? Want to
Speaker 2: build a cabinets for it? And let's make sure where
Speaker 2: there's a plug in the back. Make life easy.
Speaker 1: What about places to store baking sheets, spices?
Speaker 2: We have that too, Spice rollouts, nice little compartments definitely
Speaker 2: always next to the stove, little compartment slides out. You
Speaker 2: got your spices, put your spices in there, even for drawers.
Speaker 2: You could kind of do a little spice drawer box
Speaker 2: where you line up your spices all nice and beautiful
Speaker 2: and then quick access to them. That's what I am.
Speaker 1: We have our cook top on the end of the
Speaker 1: island and the first drawer under it, full extension, thirty
Speaker 1: six inch wide drawer, nothing but spices.
Speaker 2: How easy is it to go through your spices?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's the easiest thing in the world,
Speaker 1: because Tina decided to customize our spice system when we
Speaker 1: redesign the kitchen.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's the other thing with spy that's a pain
Speaker 1: in the butt is that you go to the store
Speaker 1: and you know that spice bottle is that size and
Speaker 1: this one. I mean some of them are nice, some
Speaker 1: of them are like all uniform, but you have to
Speaker 1: buy within that brand then, right, so she can buy
Speaker 1: any spice she wants from anywhere, because you know, it
Speaker 1: was like I want to say, it was like fifty
Speaker 1: bucks on Amazon to buy one hundred spice bottles and labels.
Speaker 1: And now they're all labeled with our spices and it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what our refill bottles look like. They live
Speaker 1: in the pantry somewhere and when the cinnamon gets low,
Speaker 1: she you know, just refills it. But you know, when
Speaker 1: I open it up, it's all alphabetized three rows of spice.
Speaker 1: I think we have one hundred spices in there, and
Speaker 1: they're all just facing me right where I am wanting
Speaker 1: to tap one in to the recipe or into the
Speaker 1: pot or the pan or whatever. It is just the
Speaker 1: greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, how does that make you feel
Speaker 2: nice and organized? Oh?
Speaker 1: It just it makes you feel great. It makes you
Speaker 1: feel great, makes you feel like you want to be
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. You know, you want to cook more.
Speaker 1: You want to It is it is, And I know
Speaker 1: what you're getting at. That's the idea, right, the idea
Speaker 1: of being able to customize anything. Like you and I
Speaker 1: were talking about, we should talk about a little more
Speaker 1: after the break. The idea of customizing anything is the
Speaker 1: ultimate luxury. It's the ultimate luxury. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: it's luxury in the sense that you're paying luxury prices
Speaker 1: for luxury materials. It's the customization is the luxury because
Speaker 1: it just fits your life hand in glove.
Speaker 2: It's just there.
Speaker 1: It is, And you know, and so when I cook
Speaker 1: and I just reach down and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: and I need some oregano and I need some and
Speaker 1: there it is and I do it and it goes
Speaker 1: away and it's just clean and clear and and my
Speaker 1: my mind stays clear.
Speaker 2: And I love.
Speaker 1: Cooking in my kitchen, ease of life, love it, love cooking.
Speaker 1: It's just just it's just the greatest thing ever. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's what it affords. It organizes, uh, and the
Speaker 1: and the other fats. You know what We're going along,
Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about this on the other side.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about just the idea that a
Speaker 1: if you were to replace and I've done this mathematically
Speaker 1: with clients to show them sometimes, if you were to
Speaker 1: replace pretty much an existing kitchen one for one, you know,
Speaker 1: with new contemporary all access cabinets, how much additional storage
Speaker 1: can we get in that exact same kitchen just by
Speaker 1: renewing the cabinets. Don't say it now, let's talk about
Speaker 1: it on the other side of the break. We will
Speaker 1: be back with my special guest, John Cordero from the
Speaker 1: Kitchen Store.
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Speaker 1: Cordero from The Kitchen Store. John is a cabinet expert
Speaker 1: par excellence and the Kitchen Store is, as you should
Speaker 1: know by now, the best, my favorite kitchen design showroom
Speaker 1: in Southern California. So John is here and we're just
Speaker 1: picking his brain, taking full advantage of his expertise. Right
Speaker 1: before the break, I mentioned the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking about cabinet efficiency and all these improvements,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to hold you to a percentage
Speaker 1: or anything like that, right, just but I tell our
Speaker 1: clients all the time, Hey, you just if you were
Speaker 1: to just change out your cabinet boxes one for one
Speaker 1: from these old cabinets that you have that are forty
Speaker 1: fifty sixty years old to their modern day equivalent. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about expanding the kitchen or changing the configuration
Speaker 1: of the kitchen, just changing them out to current style,
Speaker 1: contemporary cabinets. And they don't have to be contemporary looking.
Speaker 1: I just mean new cabinets that we're going to increase
Speaker 1: your storage capacity and your organization capacity. Is that true
Speaker 1: or not true?
Speaker 2: True? It is true.
Speaker 1: I find it that the access, the storage, the usable
Speaker 1: storage space. You know, again, like pantry cabinets. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys have got pantry cabinets now where it looks
Speaker 1: like it's a I guess technically it's a door, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't have a hinge because when I grab the
Speaker 1: handle and pull on it instead of it swinging open
Speaker 1: to reveal pantry shelves. The I pull on it and
Speaker 1: the entire thing comes out. It all glides out. So,
Speaker 1: in other words, a large pantry. Everybody's dream about a
Speaker 1: pantry is, or our maybe dream slash frustration is you've
Speaker 1: got that large area. And I'm not talking about a
Speaker 1: walking pantry, a pantry cabinet, a pantry cabinet. You got
Speaker 1: this large area. You can hold a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: but if you pack it full of a lot of stuff. Again,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the blind corner. You can't get
Speaker 1: to the you never see what's in the back because
Speaker 1: it's twenty four inches deep. But now there is literally
Speaker 1: pantry hardware where the entire pantry contents slide out into
Speaker 1: full view, and so you can pack it full. And
Speaker 1: that's what I mean by a modern cabinet versus replacing
Speaker 1: the old pantry. Technically, is it the same size, sure,
Speaker 1: But in the old pantry you couldn't put that much
Speaker 1: stuff in there, otherwise you're gonna lose it. And the
Speaker 1: new one you can pack it full if you want,
Speaker 1: because it all comes out and fully exposed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you have the pantry pull out, which
Speaker 2: you just mentioned everything comes out with the door and
Speaker 2: you got all your accessories. We also have where you
Speaker 2: do rollouts. You open your double doors. It's your utility
Speaker 2: cabinet and you got your rollouts. You don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about what falls behind your cans or your goods
Speaker 2: come fall behind the shelf. The rollout comes out full extension.
Speaker 2: You get to see everything.
Speaker 1: You have upper cabinets now where the door actually lifts
Speaker 1: up like kind of like on hydraulics, it sort of
Speaker 1: lifts up above and exposes everything. And you've got cabinets
Speaker 1: where the contents of the cabinets come down closer to
Speaker 1: you and lower down closer to the countertop. So there's
Speaker 1: just all these functions these days in terms of accessibility function.
Speaker 1: And it looks good. It doesn't like and it looks good,
Speaker 1: looks good. All right, you know what here we are.
Speaker 1: We've got one more segment to do, and so you
Speaker 1: and I are going to have to discuss during the
Speaker 1: break what it is that we're gonna pump out for
Speaker 1: this last segment in order to kind of round out
Speaker 1: the show.
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Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we've got just a few minutes, John to kind
Speaker 1: of round out this discussion. We've only scratched the This
Speaker 1: is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to everything.
Speaker 1: But I'm very satisfied with where we've gone because I
Speaker 1: think we've as opposed to getting bogged down and all
Speaker 1: sorts of technicalities along the way, I think we've encouraged
Speaker 1: our listeners to really understand you that as intimidating as
Speaker 1: this subject is, because it is deep and wide, you
Speaker 1: don't have to be intimidated as you approach it if
Speaker 1: you're doing it with the right people. If you're doing
Speaker 1: it with the folks like you at the kitchen store,
Speaker 1: they will be encouraged to play, to imagine, to dream,
Speaker 1: to explore. It's all free, right windows shopping is free,
Speaker 1: and in that process you start to realize aha, wait
Speaker 1: oh ah, And before you know it, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of the cornerstones of that new dream kitchen start forming
Speaker 1: up in somebody's mind. And then with a with the
Speaker 1: aid of a creative professional design staff and everything available,
Speaker 1: it's on the market.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, it's happening. It's a reality, yep.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about wood. You wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: wood and meaning you know the material the wood materials
Speaker 1: that are available for cabinets these days. And we were
Speaker 1: laughing during the break because oak and maple send shivers
Speaker 1: down some people's spines because they think oak. Okay, here
Speaker 1: are the two kinds of wood you can have. You
Speaker 1: can have oak and it's going to be kind of
Speaker 1: honey colored, and I'm really sick of that. So that's
Speaker 1: oak is honey colored and maple is yellow, and that's
Speaker 1: what you can get in a cabinet, right right, Okay,
Speaker 1: But there's more, there is more, So what tell us, Well,
Speaker 1: there's alder cherry. Those are just two woods that are
Speaker 1: just look amazing. It's all what you're looking for. So
Speaker 1: if you want nice, warm kitchen, cherry gives you that
Speaker 1: beautiful wood. Green alder has amazing green. Does cherry have
Speaker 1: to be red? No, you add a stain to it
Speaker 1: because people think about cherry wood and they're like, but
Speaker 1: I don't want a red kitchen.
Speaker 2: Cherry has that that tradition of being red, right, But
Speaker 2: the naturalness of the cherry is just amazing. Even the
Speaker 2: clear cherry looks beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so don't think so much in terms of the
Speaker 1: color tone of the wood, but think about the grain,
Speaker 1: the beautiful, elegant grain that cherrywood is. It's a gorgeous
Speaker 1: wood grain.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, here's when I forgot walnut. Walnut is my amazing
Speaker 1: Well you saw my kitchen. I have walnut countertops around
Speaker 1: my sink. I love walnut. Walnut is one of my
Speaker 1: all time favorite woods. There's something about it that just
Speaker 1: loves me and I love it. I just think it's
Speaker 1: one of the sexiest woods ever. The color, the grain
Speaker 1: is just amazing. You want to see beautiful grain, go
Speaker 1: look at a walnut. Yeah, which, I have a kitchen
Speaker 1: at the kitchen store.
Speaker 2: We have one.
Speaker 1: Now, what about some woods that take paint wells others
Speaker 1: that really are better off stained, I mean, and and
Speaker 1: some and some paint gray cabinets. If you have like
Speaker 1: a traditional middle panel shouldn't be wood at all MDF
Speaker 1: medium density fiberboard. And people are like, what, I don't
Speaker 1: want cheap md F. Well, first of all, it's not cheap,
Speaker 1: it's not low quality. But those typical scalloped raised panels
Speaker 1: that go in the inset of a kind of a
Speaker 1: traditional cabinet door if it's if it's going to be
Speaker 1: a paint grade cabinet, there's no reason to make that
Speaker 1: natural wood because number one, if it's paint grade, we're
Speaker 1: not seeing the grain. And number two, the achilles heel
Speaker 1: of sometimes of that panel because it gets really thin
Speaker 1: on the edge where it tucks into the doorframe. The
Speaker 1: achilles heel is over time, those things can split along
Speaker 1: its grain line. So we don't want an inset cabinet
Speaker 1: panel that ever wants to split. And that's why MDF,
Speaker 1: which take paint, takes paint like like a champ is
Speaker 1: a beautiful is the right thing to put in the
Speaker 1: middle of that kind of.
Speaker 2: Door, especially if you're around a place where there's a
Speaker 2: lot of moisture. MDF is going to be your friend.
Speaker 1: No expansion, no minimal expansion and contraction versus the wood grain,
Speaker 1: true versus the wood grain. So what about paints versus stains?
Speaker 1: For certain kinds of wood, some take it better than others.
Speaker 1: Maple is always going to be your best thing when
Speaker 1: it comes to paint. It just has a tighter grain
Speaker 1: and grabs the paint very well. So when you hear
Speaker 1: maple paint grade just means it's wood that's basically good
Speaker 1: for paint. Most of our doors are all actually a
Speaker 1: lot of our doors are all maple pink grade. We
Speaker 1: do have some that are MDF. Some manufacturers do the MDF,
Speaker 1: which is also really good for your cabinets. But basically,
Speaker 1: when you do a stain, some woods where grab really
Speaker 1: nice rich tones depending on the grain maple, you could
Speaker 1: do a stain on maple you get some nice little colors,
Speaker 1: but maple does what maple does since it's such a
Speaker 1: tight grain. Walnut you can get kind of creative on
Speaker 1: wana too. Cherry and alder will give you nice different
Speaker 1: variation on different color stains. So this is what I
Speaker 1: love about. And if you've never been to the Kitchen Store,
Speaker 1: I'm going to describe the wall.
Speaker 2: The wall.
Speaker 1: This is what I love about the Kitchen Store. So
Speaker 1: you walk into the Kitchen Store showroom, the main showroom,
Speaker 1: and if you were walking, walk in about ten feet
Speaker 1: and then turn around and look at the wall that
Speaker 1: you just walked in through.
Speaker 2: Up above.
Speaker 1: You guys have every imaginable door style okay, in other words,
Speaker 1: door shape detail, you know, middle panels, shaker style, flat contempt,
Speaker 1: all of it, all of it, all of it up there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's every kind of door style up there, and
Speaker 1: then there's every kind of wood grain up there to
Speaker 1: see and every kind of color and so and the
Speaker 1: message is expand your mind, look at all of this
Speaker 1: and understand that you could get any kind of that,
Speaker 1: any type of that wood, in any kind of door
Speaker 1: style that you want, or painted any color like this.
Speaker 1: And it just it's the first part I think of that,
Speaker 1: that widening of your mind education to realize I really
Speaker 1: have options.
Speaker 2: We call it our diamond wall, your diamond wall. So
Speaker 2: you start from a clear and then you could go
Speaker 2: just down, looking down, what kind of stains, what the
Speaker 2: wood does?
Speaker 1: You start darkening in intensity pretty much, Yeah, as it
Speaker 1: goes along. Yeah, it's it's just it's just a great education. Well,
Speaker 1: here we are, John, Thank you so much for being
Speaker 1: in a studio with me. It is always a pleasure
Speaker 1: to hang out with you and just talk shop and uh.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's something that's really valuable to
Speaker 1: our listeners as well, and so I thank you again.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody where the Kitchen store is and how to
Speaker 1: get to you, and when they can get to you.
Speaker 2: Kitchen store. We're out in Coover City where we're the
Speaker 2: on Sloughson and Jefferson on the exit off of the
Speaker 2: four or five. So if you guys want to come
Speaker 2: see us, we're here. We're open Monday through Saturday from
Speaker 2: nine to five, and I'm always around. If you guys
Speaker 2: want to come, just talk to me and learn some stuff.
Speaker 2: I might not be one of the designers there, but
Speaker 2: we do have many designers that can help you out.
Speaker 2: But I'd love to talk. I love to share my knowledge.
Speaker 2: So if you guys want to come down, ask for me.
Speaker 2: I'll be more than happy to answer some questions.
Speaker 1: All right, So we haven't figured out what the special
Speaker 1: house whisper deal is yet, but I will tell you
Speaker 1: right now. You go into the kitchen store, ask for
Speaker 1: John and say I'm here because Dean Sharp sent me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Dean Sharp sent me in, And you know what,
Speaker 1: You're going to treat him right definitely, right on, right on.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much fun, Thank you. All Right, y'all, here
Speaker 1: we are. I'm limiting my closing thoughts today because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to squeeze every single thing in. I'm just
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Speaker 1: Housewhisper dot Design. Thanks again for spending this time with me.
Speaker 1: It is truly and I mean this would all sincereah.
Speaker 1: It is a privilege to be able to be of
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Speaker 1: you get out into this beautiful day and build yourself
Speaker 1: a beautiful life. All right, y'all, have a great week.
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