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five two six eighty eight sixty six. And uh, I
love that Danny's here. It's where the Hurricanes had tonight.
A man of many caps, Miami Hurricanes. But Danny says
to me, and I can't stop I can't stop laughing.
I can't stop laughing. And I know that you probably
don't want to get too far into this, but I
just it's the modern world we live in, right, It's
the modern world we live in. Because we'll say often
in a very critical way, that we have too much
information at our fingertips and it comes too quickly, right,
oh yeah, And it happens especially in the news cycle
of things. So sometimes we're jumping to conclusions or somebody's
telling us something before they know everything, or assuming or
what we decide what we really know and don't know,
and we don't know. But the same thing happens now
because we all have my chart or some version of
that with.
Speaker 1: Am I right, yes, this is exactly.
Speaker 2: And then you start to play a doctor and I
always have to.
Speaker 1: Have artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2: I used to get so faked mad, yes, and I
used to get so mad when some people was in me,
oh oh, well, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Get the invitation to your call to your doctoral medical school, degree,
graduation or whatever. It was just to say that you're
not a doctor. And I was that's a cheesy way
to just say relaxed. No, okay, no, my mind, dad.
That was too cheesy for my dad.
Speaker 2: Okay, he was above that.
Speaker 1: I didn't get your invitation to medical school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that now. My father wouldn't do that. No,
he wouldn't say that. He'd be like, you're not a
fucking doctor, he'd say, or you go, I'm not worrying
until I have something to worry about. Yeah, you know
right now. Danny had blood work done. Yeah, it's a
routine like no, no, no, yes, it's just a regular thing,
like a physical. I have not gone for my blood work,
and it's been like two weeks. I keep forgetting. I
got a fast and I meant to do it last
week and I got caught up with stuff. But like
I did go and I had some and cut off
my hand that they were biopsy and biopsy, and I
got a call today. But ninety on we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in two weeks, you weren't thinking about it.
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't thinking about it at all. You have
too much stuff going on. I don't think about these
things at all anymore. I don't I but I never
really did. I guess maybe that's a bad thing. But
I just go because it's going to take me down
the path of I don't want to go, and I
don't have answers, and so we start playing scenarios in
our heads. Yeah, but this is this is what I
would say, in a very very simple way, is suffering. Yes,
but Danny's given me all these things where this is down,
that's up, that's up. And I'm going, well, we don't
know how it all bounces out, and you know what
you're seeing numbers and maybe you're correct.
Speaker 1: Did you do some AI you mentioned that? Of course
I did, Danny, why right?
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's like that booky got me right, and it all
sounds like great advice when things are going normal. Yeah, sure,
But then when you have to apply it, Oh no, no.
Speaker 2: No, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I don't look this stuff up immediately. If you know
what's going on, I see what you're saying. Yeah, and
uh yeah. So most of the blood work came back fine,
but there were a couple of things I was like,
huh yeah, okay, Well, hey, look I've.
Speaker 2: Gone been doing some stuff.
Speaker 1: As you know, I've been doing supplements and stuff like
that to try to like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I have an article on supplements that I'm sitting
on and we're gonna put I want to put a
whole supplement podcast together, almost like an investigative podcast. I'd
like you to be on and some other people will do.
But I'm working on a bunch of projects. But that
I have been.
Speaker 1: Sitting on this, and I told you I haven't really
leafed through the whole article.
Speaker 2: It's super long.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, so yeah, So a couple of the
tests came back and the doctor hasn't reviewed them yet.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's been a couple of days. Yeah, and so
because he's not concerned.
Speaker 1: I wonder what this means. Yeah, because he's not concerned,
I wonder what that means. Did you have any KG
a couple of years ago? Okay, I get one every physical,
I think because.
Speaker 2: Maybe my age. Yeah, next year I'm doing for another one.
I'm an old fuck. My heart rate is like forty eight? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't they have to test the sever you're the
tin man.
Speaker 2: Well when I I I got myself into like a
meditative state at one and it set off alarms. I
thought that was the fucking coolest man, like running in
What happened? Drop below forty four? I don't know what
sets off the alarm. I know that that means.
Speaker 1: Your good shape. If you could get your heart rate
down at under fifty, that's pretty good heart rate.
Speaker 2: I was. I ran for probably twenty thirty years. My
hip is bad. I put on a shit ton of
weight that I am slowly slowly taking off, but it
is coming off and I just have a whole new
I'm back to I feel like, in a way, Danny,
I'm back to the way I was years ago, Okay,
which is good, like in a good way. Okay, not
in a bad way, in a good way. I'm very focused,
very But I just love that you went down the
rabbit hole, and it just is funny to me because
you're not alone. And as much as I I'm about
I was kind of laughing at it because but you
go into detail, you're like, you really you went through
this thing with a fine tooth comb. And I remember
seeing some things like by certain levels were weird or borderline, right, borderline,
And since their borderline, I call an ant of mine
who's a nurse, and she's like, well, if they're always
that way, that's your normal. You're on the low end,
but it's your normal, and you have to remember everybody's
different stuff. But god damn, it is so fun to
see Danny who goes let me tell you something, but
talk about what you were saying about the ration, because
I think this is something many people can relate to.
Speaker 1: So there's that book you got me yes about thinking,
and like the idea is that thinking is the root
of all suffering that you should think but don't think
about things you shouldn't think about exactly, or when intrusive
thoughts come in, just ignore them. They're like a cloud.
Just sweep them away, don't think about it, because everybody
has them. It's been ones like me, Oh my gosh,
I can't believe I thought that, and then you feel guilty,
and then for years you flip it out, you know.
And so what happens is there's this gentleman who is
a former CIA agent named and I think it's Aime's
Andrew Bustamante. He's got long, dark hair and real, real
smart guy, and he's been on all these podcasts and
he talks about the irrational brain versus the rational brain,
and he goes, you know, meditation is one of those
things that people like to do to clear their head.
But when the problems show up, the problems still show up.
You can't just meditate your way out of it sometimes
the real way, and I don't. I'm not a meditator.
I'm a prayer guy. Not that you can do one
or the other. But the thing is, though, is that
there's the irrational mind in the rational mind, and the
irrational mind guides the rational mind when it should be.
You gotta train your mind to have the irrational mind
guide the irrational mind.
Speaker 2: And here's what I mean.
Speaker 1: When you hear any modicum of news, the irrational mind
is like the chihuahua right who just runs out in
front of the owner and is screaming, we gotta go,
we gotta go.
Speaker 2: We gotta go fix this right now.
Speaker 1: We gotta fix this problem. We gotta problem.
Speaker 2: We gotta go alt alert, hold on, hit the button,
we gotta go. Call the cops.
Speaker 5: Here we go, and the rational mind davies having kidney failure,
liver failure, screens about to explode, He's got pancreatic something
or the other, and.
Speaker 1: Irrational mind, the rational mind is the dog walker. Hang on, Yeah,
I gotta put my shoes on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put my pants on. I gotta get off the couch. Look, everybody,
I've been down this road before. I don't know. I
always hang on, I'm coming. I always think it's a
cop out sometimes to say to justify it's almost like
arguing for your limitations, as I think is something we
shouldn't do, meaning that if the irrational brain in my
what do you call takes but I think in a
way too, like you can you can rewire a house.
You could rewire yourself, and it takes a long It
can take a while to do because don't for the discipline. Well,
I mean everybody who any psychologists will tell you like
I think it was Hitler. May have said, I you
give me the boy till five. Yeah, give me the
boy t five and I'll show you the man. I
think it was Hitler. I might be missing may have
repeated that from somebody. Yeah, maybe missing him. And I
think it's usually seven. Most psychologists tell you seven. But
that's those are those formative years and you think of
like go back and you think of things that happened then,
and some of it you can't even really remember. And
I for real, I'm still scared. Nick.
Speaker 1: Still hate putting on a tie. Okay, still won't grow
a mustache. All right, all right, still not strong? Want
me to go on?
Speaker 2: No, this swim one got me. Did you have like
a traumatic experience?
Speaker 1: And the mother says I did, Okay, so I never Yeah,
well I was the kid in the senior year of
high school or all the other kids are swimming free
swim Dan, you come with us we're gonna put on
the floaties of the life jacket.
Speaker 2: We're gonna teach you how to die today.
Speaker 1: You have to do this before you graduate.
Speaker 2: Wow. Uh, everybody's laughing at me. Yeah, that's tough. The uh,
that's tough.
Speaker 1: Class President can't swim.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I would have had such a I would
have had a field day with that. I would I'm sure. Well. Anyway,
what I was gonna say is, I think sometimes it
takes a little while, but once I here's what I do,
I can start thinking. And sometimes I'll think of something
that's gonna take me. You know, you can see where
it's gonna go, right, you can feel yourself, and I'll go,
don't don't do that. It's a waste, it's a waste
of time. So it could be about a person. It
could be about a situation, could be about a situation
involving a person. Whatever it is that those things that
we could all go down and we've had the fake
argument in our head and the fucked up you know
what I mean? All this we play out the scenarios. Yes, ridiculously.
Speaker 1: What time I caught myself like, who are you talking?
Speaker 2: Yes? Right, that guy comes in here, man, I'll deck them,
you know, or whatever, and it it's like it's a
complete waste because A, it's never gonna happen, right, it
would never go that way anyway.
Speaker 1: And see that person has no idea that you're wrapped
up with their issue exactly with the issue about them.
Speaker 2: So you just gotta so that that takes a while,
and then you also got to kind of have a
I would I guess it could be selfish, but I
always think if you're not selfish, what good are you
for anybody? You know, I got a fourteen year old
kid who's depending on me every day, and that includes
setting boundaries and things. Right, you know, they'll do better.
But so when I'm selfish, like, I'm not gonna sweat that.
I'm not going to worry about that. No, Like my
big thing now is like I think somebody on the
podcast not you, we got into a thing about and
they're not even teaching cursive in school anymore. And I
and I go, so what versus like, well, I mean,
and I go, you got a sign? I go, have
you seen doctors? Right?
Speaker 1: Have you seen pro athletes? You can't even read or write? Yeah,
they could sign their name.
Speaker 2: I'm like it's just a squiggly line. And so what
I get it, I understand, But I go, what does
that have to do with intelligence? I can show you
a lot of people have beautiful penmanship. They can write
script like it looks like it came off a printer,
and they are just idiots, you know what I mean.
I I understand that theres.
Speaker 1: Some intelligence people who can't spell to save their lives.
Speaker 2: It's smarter than I am. And we've got all kinds
of technology. Now, that's just the world we live in.
That second I was the second place spelling Bee champions.
That's awesome. Actually, good for you, that's awesome. But my
point is like technology has moved on, all right, and
why do I Why am I gonna waste my time
getting mad about something that I can't affect and, by
the way, has no impact on my daily life right now,
right now? Maybe ever, I don't know. You know, I
understand it's a discipline. I got it. Disciplines are good.
Speaker 1: I think it's that's one of those things that gets
folded into the portfolio of kids these days. Yeah, and
it's like that's that's like the least of my worries.
I don't have kids. I think it's Bill Moran who
once said, you know, I have two guys on this show,
two guys on this podcast who bitch and complain about.
Speaker 2: The way kids are being raised and.
Speaker 1: Taught and everything, and neither of them have kids. I
think I was one of them. I think I know
who the other guy is. We got the cursive guy. Yeah, right,
And at that moment I realized, you know what, Dan,
you got nieces and nephews. But the cool thing is
you can always give him back.
Speaker 2: You can always get me back. But look, I don't
care to having an opinion is a good thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My point is to get so passionate and and mad
about it seems like a waste of time. Let me
tell you it's and it's the same thing right everything
and we get and we get all this, and what
good is it gonna do? It is no good. The
only thing you want. I want to be every day
is happy in the moment right now. Happy. That's it?
Right that that that, that's it. You know what My
biggest struggle right now is it's not really my biggest struggle,
but something that's been really in my head a lot.
This is this is gonna knock you out. It's so dumb.
The time's an illusion. It's always right now. And then
we made time. We created it. We created it to
explain things. But it's made up. Uh, time is made up.
And it's hard because we think literally lineal liney, yes,
thank you.
Speaker 1: Uh time is it linear? We perceive it that way. Well,
it's like a flat circle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we think in a linear fashion. And everything
has to be sequential in some way. And it makes
sense because the sun goes down and the sun comes
up and I remember it. But I don't know anybody
that's time traveled to the past, so I don't. So
I'm and that honest to God. When I can't. When
when something sneaks in my head, I go, but it
times i'm losing and I start thinking about that and
I totally forget whatever I was doing and it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 1: As Christians, we believe that that God stepped out of
time and stepped into time. Like God is not subject
to time. You know everything, He's already got it planned out.
He already knows what route you're gonna take and how
you're gonna get there and from there from there and
from there and from there and from there and from there.
Speaker 2: And everything's already drawn out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're just a little we are just living
in the present therefore, or we are subject to time, yes,
well the creator is not.
Speaker 2: We're subjected to times, but time. And if everything is
planned out. I always think that the present in a
metaphysical sense, I.
Speaker 1: Should say planned out but played out. Everything's played out
is a is kind of a fluid situation.
Speaker 2: You have choices free, will you make the choices? Yes,
nothing set in stone until you kind of set it
in stone, and that's it. But though that's my big concern.
How do I figure out if it is? Because if
I go and find pictures, I can see something getting old,
So that means it's got to be aging. Literally right
now I'm older. But but yet it's always now? So
could it already be done? Was it always this? This
is just the same. I don't know. That's why Deep.
Speaker 1: Was at the dress rehearsal. Is this life? Yes, I
know what you mean. It's it's hard to explain it,
but then you know, like I mean, I just realized that,
like this podcast as well, over like three years old
or over two years years, two years old, and I
look back, I'm like, oh my gosh, I remember like
being that heavy, and I remember being like seeing pictures
going oh my gosh, I was that heavy, and we
were talking about this. It didn't feel like that long ago.
Speaker 2: You know. It is so strange. It isn't that long ago.
But yes, I hear what you're saying, all right, I
didn't mean to get all all kinds of deep on that.
I do have a question though, that we'll pose. I
am a fan of this person, and I think when
I bring up his name some people will squirm. And
I'm going to read a summarized piece that I kind
of put together from an article about this person, famous person,
and we will talk about it. Then I will play
the audio from this interaction and we'll see if our
opinions differ a little bit, if they change slightly. But
the question is comedians and free speech is what it is?
Comedians and free speech? And is there an unspoken rule
about how far comedians can push people in real life,
not on stage, but in real life. At what point
it almost becomes harassment? Okay? Right, you know? And is
it funny? Sure? But at the same time, and we'll
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Speaker 8: And i got a call from.
Speaker 2: The clinic today what test results are?
Speaker 8: On their way heart race and handshaking, In the truck
doctor jor gilling his dumb Mass of stuff google's got
him thinking he's gone and. DIE and simptoms i don't
even a fly and it breathe and he can't catch
a break lost.
Speaker 2: In the way less they have the clicking make.
Speaker 8: In circles fast wish someone else to. Do the rest.
Speaker 2: Danny in The healths, fetch fobby said and let them crack.
Speaker 7: In a fear danny.
Speaker 8: Don't be fine there's, nothing Of fear but, danny's brows
furrow doubts, in his.
Speaker 2: Eyes spiraling down i'm.
Speaker 8: Watching His demid, nurse, costact says hey.
Speaker 2: It's all fine danny's still.
Speaker 7: Thinking HE'S out, it's o.
Speaker 2: Yes you're healthy no. Need The fred but danny's mind
just can't. Be said teddy doctor needs a Dull mask
and tanny. And a doctor he's A dope, man's oh
wait here's, a different. Version SAME song oh. I liked
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Speaker 1: Recent, randy versy, yeah oh yeah.
Speaker 2: A little fuller a little, more country Bro. Country baby
dan he got a call from, the clinic today blood
test results. Are made, away hearts racing handshaking, in the,
truck doctor jargon his dumb. Ass is stuff who's got
him thinking? He's gonna die read.
Speaker 1: The sand dumps the dull panic breathe then he can't,
catch a break lost.
Speaker 2: In the limb with Every clip.
Speaker 7: Kings blood's great.
Speaker 2: Isn't an amazing the world we? LIVE in now, i
mean HONESTLY this IS ai and. I, did, that wow?
Speaker 1: Incredible Isn't, it chuck daily our Old friend from georgia,
still writes me still, writes me too, and.
Speaker 2: He like people put, these songs.
Speaker 1: Together make videos and he sends me these videos of
these songs that. People, just create wow of just, like
you know chick's being knocked, Up and stuff, southern type.
Stuff country. Stuff, that's funny yeah that's all. Kinds of
stuff what happened?
Speaker 2: When you, went you know in order to get the,
blood test results you have.
Speaker 1: To give blood so in two, THOUSAND and three i
worked with A Guy named brad davies and He's, Now.
Speaker 2: In Houston texas and.
Speaker 1: Brad like would always go on the air the morning
of a blood TEST and say i hate taking blood
test BECAUSE every time, I give blood.
Speaker 2: I PASS out so.
Speaker 1: I never had an issue giving blood until, he mentioned
it say tests and. Never pay, us, so he uh
you put that idea in my head that you. Could
Pass out so i've. Never passed out i've. Never passed
out i'll, never Give blood but i've. Never passed out
but the, Idea is now it's like it goes in
my HEAD every time i, go IN there so i
look away, from the test.
Speaker 2: Not The.
Speaker 1: Test the yeah So every time i'm convinced that, there's
two lines there's, two blood lines one for like. The
old people they need a real pro to. Do, old, people,
yeah yeah yeah because that and the fact that like if,
you miss man they could end up being like a
blood bath on an old person because their veins are
all messed, up and stuff like they got that skin,
that Pinches Up and.
Speaker 2: Bob ethel's certain do a sprinkler, system out here so
they have the real.
Speaker 1: Pro over. There, For me yeah for the last twelve years,
of blood tests with the exception, OF maybe twice i
end up getting the trainee who sounds like They're, not
from america so they. Have An accent so. I'm, they're
training yes they're. Phlebotomists IN training so i don't know
if we have a, flu bottomist.
Speaker 2: Shortage or there's a lot of, churn in.
Speaker 1: Phlebotomy or people don't, want the job or the only
people want the jobs are people who.
Speaker 2: Aren't from here They come to america.
Speaker 1: TO become phlebotomist.
Speaker 2: I don't know transylvania could be Very.
Speaker 1: Very popular, fromania, yeah, Yeah, YEAH right hello i want
to take your blood.
Speaker 2: For four files, so it's okay we're going to.
Speaker 1: Take your, blood i'm. Like Ok okay so i'm looking
away and the ladies just sitting there kind of watching them.
Speaker 2: The, real phlebotomist, yeah, just okay yeah just. You got,
It you're. Good you're Good i'm just i'm.
Speaker 1: JUST looking away i, feel the pinch and usually it's
just a, couple, of seconds right this pinch is last like,
fifteen TWENTY seconds and. I look down there's no. Blood coming, up, she, goes,
no no okay, pull the skin. PULL the skin i
got three gash marks. ON they couldn't i got, to
show you like kind of shitty.
Speaker 2: And, shop, my god yeah hold that off. To the,
camera my goodness.
Speaker 1: This POOR guy and i FELT bad because i know
what it's like to be training on something and you're
the new guy. And you're learning but that that IS
my that i mean they had to take the blood
like several different ways to get a couple of vials.
Speaker 2: Of, my blood yeah and what does?
Speaker 1: THAT tell YOU i don't, I don't know like do
they just run through? Phlebotomists so quickly, people take questions
Who come to america just? To become phlebotomists AND why
do i always? Get the training that's.
Speaker 2: The? Bigger question? Why? Why You why and i'm going to.
Speaker 1: TELL you why I think because i'm. A, Nice, guy
no okay they.
Speaker 2: Can't, TELL that no i think that it's the. Law
of attraction what do you? Laugh, at that, okay go
ahead wait. For the explanation the explanation is that you
always you think about this and you're Going there going i'm.
Gonna get that i'm gonna get. The rookie again i'm
gonna get the person who. Can't find that I'm gonna get.
That's What happening brad davis passed out right and you
get in there. And that's no but but, here's the
thing All your expectations. Dino, are met Yes AND by
Dino i mean Dino From The, Flint stones stones god.
FORBID somebody else I think, that, i, NO yeah yeah,
i BELIEVE me believe i Had What the dino. Bravo,
the wrestler okay. There YOU go SO i would i
would say that that's. Part of it so why don't
you say, the next, Time just go i'm gonna. GET
the pro i am so HAPPY that when i gave
blood it went smooth AND easy and i. Got a
pro and. See, what happens yeah see WHAT happens.
Speaker 1: Because i usually go, to the office the lab at.
The doctor's office, but he goes you don't want to
go There, today It's monday because i'm. Gonna send you
i'm gonna send. You another, Place he, goes trust me
you will, not, want to.
Speaker 2: Like you know.
Speaker 1: Go there today you'll never get out being at THE,
d M v which. I, did today yeah that. Took
a While, but THE yeah so i go to this,
place and like yeah it. Was it was it was a,
very small, PLACE but yeah i GOT the rook i got,
the rook again and this poor, guy, he, was oh,
sorry you know it's like, it's, all.
Speaker 2: Right man you're you turned into. A pin cushion.
Speaker 1: Yeah BUT you' and i, SAID to, him i go
how could anybody want?
Speaker 2: To, do heroin okay so here's my, Question FOR you and,
i mean this it's not needles. That, bother you no.
It's the blood not to the blood that.
Speaker 1: Doesn't bother me it's just like it's just like, for
some reason because.
Speaker 2: You CAN'T look yeah i could. Look, AT it yeah
i just.
Speaker 1: DON'T want to i don't WANT the idea i know
how MY mind OR i think i know how.
Speaker 2: My.
Speaker 1: MIND works yeah i don't want to psych myself, into
passing out especially when the test was.
Speaker 2: AROUND me and i had been eaten since like eight.
Speaker 1: O'clock, The night before so you're talking about a fast
of sixteen straight hours and then they're going to take two.
VALS of blood I Went to tim hortenson immediately scarf
down two sour. Cream glazed donuts if you passed now
and got a concussion because you get dread on, the way,
down well.
Speaker 2: Yeah because they got those like those chairs. You sit
in it's like a high chair and then the. Thing
folds over it's very easy to. Hit your head it
is on that arm like that is the worst part
of the fall, is nothing right but it could, result in,
something you know, for old people could. Be, a hip
yeah it's not the end. Of the world they. Can
be Replaced, we got okay you, get a concussion you knock.
That nogging around who the hell knows? What could happen
and that that's so far, or you know. You go
down you ever have one of these where, you trip
fall you hit your chin on like the edge. Of
the table as, you go down your. Head snaps back
you bite. Through, your, tongue yeah blood blood. And saliva
mix it's like such a mess because out the blood
it would be it. Would be wild, that's funny man that.
Speaker 1: You have that you said that law. OF attraction thing
i don't KNOW how much i. Believe of that but.
Here's another ONE every time i tell, my wife THIS
every time i park my car, and go SOMEWHERE every
time i go to my, car to leave the person
next to me is also leaving at the. Exact same
time nine times out of ten.
Speaker 2: Are this happened?
Speaker 1: At the doctors are you thinking it happened again. At
the phlebotomist are you thinking about it?
Speaker 2: As, YOU want no.
Speaker 1: I just happen it just.
Speaker 2: Happens to happen.
Speaker 1: All, that wegmans.
Speaker 2: YEAH same thing i park as far away FROM everybody.
Speaker 7: As i can.
Speaker 2: Somebody always parks, next to me and they're always leaving at.
Speaker 1: THE same time i.
Speaker 2: Don't know, what it. Is All right maybe.
Speaker 1: I'M so friendly. I don't know i'm a, magnet for.
Speaker 2: PEOPLE all right i think that if you were more
of what You Have, preached, christian, no, no no no.
YOU are that i don't mean to. Try it away let,
me rephrase that if you practice more of one thing that,
you have said just, This, ONE thing okay i think
it changes almost, everything, for, me yes, okay for everybody
for ANYBODY who do i talk? A, great, game, NO no
no i think you're very very diligent and, faithful and consistent, which.
IS important RIGHT i mean i TRY to, do I
know and i'm not mocking LIKE every.
Speaker 1: Day i look at all the characteristics OF things that
i want TO be and i try. To live them, so, serious,
okay okay yeah well.
Speaker 2: That's all right i'm just saying you have said. In
the past let Go. And let, god Let.
Speaker 1: Go let god if you, actually, let go right meaning
you stop, thinking about it you just walk, through and go,
you know WHAT here's.
Speaker 2: What i want and then go. About, your day, wash,
you know go get to wash yourself, in the shower thinking,
about something else thinking about maybe all the things. You're,
HAPPY for man. I love that, i you know my
wife made. This, great meal, Yeah you. KNOW i'm comfortable i.
GOT this car i love. WHATEVER it is i swear
it could change everything if you if we actually let go, And,
let whatever. God. Universe whatever yeah easier. Said than done jesus. Take.
The week yeah one of MY favorite people i think.
SOMETIMES is misunderstood a big fan. Of this guy the Family,
Is From. Syracuse new york.
Speaker 1: It's.
Speaker 2: Very famous yes Thomas Mappother. Aka tom cruise. No Oh. Oh.
Alec Baldwin yes alec baldwin is sixty. Six years old
he got into a heated confrontation, With A. Comedian Jason
scoop jason Scoop Is a. Donald trump impersonator He Was outside.
Baldwin's manhattan apartment so what started as a verbal Exchange
escalated when baldwin seemingly frustrated by the interaction and the presence,
of a camera. Threatened physical Violence he warned scoop that
if the, camera weren't recording he would snap his. Neck
In half doesn't alec have enough on his? Plate right
now and shove the camera? Somewhere very, Unpleasant oh, okay
baldwin said if the, cameras weren't rolling he break, the
guy's neck which is exactly why the comedian had. The cameras. Rolling,
Probably right okay so you, hear this story what what
are your? Thoughts on it what?
Speaker 1: DO you Think i think alec is under a, lot,
of STRESS okay and i think that, in the moment he's.
Speaker 2: Got a, million fucking, kids yeah right a lot of
little kids and. He's. Sixty six yeah most people have
teenage grandkids when they're in their mid sixties potentially maybe
or or or at least well from.
Speaker 1: The, Previous, generations yes like if, you're a boomer you
probably have. Grandkids that age if your gen xer going,
INTO sixties six i don't. See, that, necessaries okay.
Speaker 2: No that's True but what i'm saying is, at, sixty
six though you're more apt to have. Grandkids, than babies, yeah, oh,
yeah yeah yeah that man's got. Some, fucking babies, yeah, You,
know right, okay all right he's under a. Lot of
pressure the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That, was yeah yeah the the uh he was on.
Trial for that did that never? Get resolved that i'm, Not,
EXACTLY sure. DAN i, don't i mean that's. That's Been
stressful uh kamala, Not getting elected i'm sure. Has, bothered, him,
Okay okay. OKAY i'm Serious i think hollywood is lead.
After that election they really like got up in. Arms
ABOUT stuff so i think he's under a. Lot of
pressure he's got little. KIDS at HOME i mean i
remember my father like at, a certain age he once told.
Speaker 2: Me before HE died because i didn't mean to yell.
Speaker 7: At you.
Speaker 2: Kids.
Speaker 1: ALL yeah sure i was, a steel, worker he goes
people died of. DOING my job i would COME home
and i didn't know how to. Deal with it so
if you guys, SET me Off i would and then
like after reading, books about it it's the state. He
was in he was. In a headspace it's, Like, it's
like jake are often led by the state you're in.
Speaker 2: At the time so here's here's so getting That story
and i'm sure we could get more details, in different
places but Uh so then i'd go, find THE vid
and i. Found The Video so alec baldwin is getting
out of u uber or. Private black suv he's. At
the trunk he's getting luggage out and you can see
him in the. Video tip somebody but also in the
Video Is comedian jason scoop, in a suit red tie and,
a blonde wig. And he's impersonating he. Just, Walks Up
now alec baldman is getting out. Of the car he's,
at the trunk and this guy walks right up and
he's Right. Next to alec and this, is the exchange right.
Whoop swepp SIPPs we got lots of. Music going there hang, on,
ONE second now I forgot that I got the i
didn't know what was going to roll into other songs. We've,
done before, uh all right. Here we Go That's. See, Alec,
baum okay alli it's.
Speaker 9: Your, Favorite, PRESIDENT look alec i will offer you a
TOTAL pardon because i want, to, BE friends right i want.
Speaker 2: To be friends this. Is a Comedian and then aleck is.
Just coming home the guy's in. A blonde wig He's outside.
His manhattan apartment he's at the trunk of what is
either an, uber or whatever but. Paid driving service, and
oh no where? Did IT go did? I? Lose it
no here. Singing pardon me. Here WE go oh, I
did something. This is good. Here we, GO hang ON
i knew I should have i should have played it right.
Off the, web dang, on stand by this is where.
We at it look it's.
Speaker 9: Your, Favorite, PRESIDENT look alec i will offer you a
TOTAL pardon because i want, to, BE.
Speaker 2: Friends right i want.
Speaker 10: TO be friends i will give you a total pardon
for Murdering that woman.
Speaker 2: Alex just on the street. Outside his house it's the.
Speaker 7: Big beautiful ring come, On out.
Speaker 2: Ring come On Look. At.
Speaker 10: Alec baldwin right he did that impersonation.
Speaker 2: And it was, not too hot. Not too good but
look we're. Back in, Office you're lost kanala lost is.
Somewhere getting intoxicated look at.
Speaker 8: That.
Speaker 10: Suit, Case, unbelievable well alec if you don't want that
pardon for murdering that woman, in cold blood you can call,
it first degree you can call it.
Speaker 2: Whatever you want but it. Was not good she's looking
down on, me right.
Speaker 10: Now smiling happy thank you for confronting the man who,
took me out, Who killed me.
Speaker 2: And that's okay sure, look, at me sure sure you
got a, Camera, the ring no. It's the rig my
kids live. In this building but we.
Speaker 10: Love the children we're doing great deals For, the, children's okay,
Okay All, Right Alec.
Speaker 2: Bolden alec boldwin, ladies and. Gentlemen class, act believe.
Speaker 6: Me.
Speaker 2: Believe me okay oh he's. Yelling at me i'm. THE
sit this i was born And Raised In. NEW york city, I, Love,
you alex alex look like. You know what you don't
want to attack, Your. Favorite, PRESIDENT alex look. I love you, I.
Love you alex he's got more Balls, than DE niro
that i. Can Tell you de, Niro ran.
Speaker 10: Away alex, confronted, that's, good okay strong but also is.
Speaker 2: Weak because he.
Speaker 10: Murdered a woman, so, that's okay right look.
Speaker 2: At this, game. Wow yeah okay so my question is
where do we draw the line between free? Speech, AND
harassment well i mean. Went at about probably the most
Awful Thing in alec baldwin's sixty six years on the
planet was the incident on The set of rust where
he was holding the gun that. Killed the woman that's not,
who he is so buck up hoping to, get a
Reaction And. It's Alec baldwin alec baldwin. Is a hothead
he pops. Off about everything he's, on his bicycles yelling
at fucking people. In the street he's. Always doing that.
HE'S a hothead. I get it. I totally understand but,
IN that case i thought showed GREAT restraint BECAUSE i
think i may have wanted to punch him in the,
face and go you're Talking as though. I'M a murderer
i don't, want my kids who are little kids. To
know that we don't even bring that. Up around. THEM holy,
Shit i mean i'll give it to the. Comedian on
this if you're, gonna do, comedy like really go out
and make a, name for yourself you can't care. What
anybody says probably one of the greatest of that To
Me was gilbert godfred just did not care, what, people thought,
Right didn't care and whatever happened in his life to make,
him that way it worked for him.
Speaker 1: IN the end, i don't know but that, Is, fucking,
wild like Yes, ire TO god, because i go.
Speaker 2: You can't go she's looking. Down on me. SHE'S so
happy i confronted, you up, like oh god that's. Just
too far it really. IS too, far I MEAN am,
i i mean? Is?
Speaker 1: It legal sure but?
Speaker 2: Is.
Speaker 1: IT necessary no i understand the guy's trying to, do
A bit but i, DON'T find that. I mean funny
i don't find any. Of that funny well here's HERE'S
here's why i don't.
Speaker 2: Find it funny if we're at a roast and you
got you went a little far and, everybody's like oh
and every's on the edge, OF their seat i can
come up with, the, excuse that WELL not my i wouldn't.
Have done it, but hey man you sat up here
on the days that is, in your past and you
knew it was, gonna, Come, up right okay this is
he was, just coming home taking luggage out of the
back of tipping somebody. Going into apartment he wasn't he wasn't.
Out doing anything he was. Not doing anything this, Guy Comes,
up alec, baldwin my favorite. Your favorite PRESIDENT i'm gonna
i willing to give. You, A part YEAH i just
i think there's. JUST a, taste i MEAN it's just
i don't BE everywhere because i think it just. CAME
out today i think it might have. Happened last night,
i'm not sure. BUT alex, is i mean we could.
Go back through there's a whole.
Speaker 1: Slew of stuff, where he stood yell at one.
Speaker 2: Point, his kids well he, left her voicemail. Left her
voice remember we used.
Speaker 1: To play, it, yeah yeah. Yeah yeah yeah every year
we had so many, Different One, Years Mel, gibson.
Speaker 2: Alec baldwin You're a selfish, what was? It, little, bratt, no,
no though no he did not called. Her a pig,
well that's right it. Was, a, pig, yes okay, Yeah
hang On i'm gonna i'm Gonna find. That alec, voicemail
every year you. Got a history this. Is the thing
you have a target on your back because one. You're
an outspoken people know, your political ideologies they know where.
They line up we know what He. Did on saturday
if he did such an impersonation that it wasn't, even
an impression. Was just, Comical uh okay so we know
that you also. Are a, hothead so yeah you're a target.
IN a, SENSE i mean i, wouldn't bother you.
Speaker 1: But that's me at, the, same time though these guys
have their own private lives and this. Wasn't the situation it,
wasn't a show it wasn't. A com blub it's. Their
arsenal LIFE and yet i know the parazzi, has their
rights and this is what kind of like a paparazzi.
Type of thing he, didn't make contact wasn't but what
he but he the guy was was? HE harassing him i.
Speaker 2: Mean he was he was.
Speaker 1: Putting The line And i'll give, baldwin credit, for you know,
showing enough, restraint you know to not punch the guy
or not break his break.
Speaker 2: Him in, half all right let's see if, THIS is
IT i don't i don't want people. Talking about IT
that's what. I don't want i want. The actual voicemail
might be that's the new thing now we do videos about.
Videos about, videos, well, no no no it would be
like like a radio show or something. TALKING about it
i don't want. That hang out uh here see it
was the. Thoughtless little, PIG the mother i, mean the
MOTHER the daughter I. Think, is ireland okay is such
a Freaky Combination of kim bassenger or Her Mother and alex.
Pulman her father, oh really yeah, it's, like? Crazy okay
crazy how?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 2: She is here WE go and i want to.
Speaker 6: Leave a message for, you right now because again it's
ten Thirty Here in new York, on a wednesday And
once again i've made an ass of myself trying to
get to a phone to call you at. A specific
time when the time comes for me to make, THE
phone call I stop whatever I'M doing. And I go
when i make that phone call at eleven o'clock in
The Morning. In new york and if you don't pick
up the phone at ten o'clock at night and you
don't even have that goddamn, PHONE turned on i want you. To,
Know something okay i'm tired of the. Game with you
i'm leaving this messags with you to tell you have
insulted me for. The last time do you? Have insulted
me you don't have the brains or the decency as.
A human being i don't give a damn that you're,
twelve years old, seven years old or that, you're a
child or that your mother is a thoughtless pain in
the ass who doesn't care about. What you do As far,
as i'm concerned you have humiliated me for the last time.
Of this PHONE and when i come out, Here next
week i'm gonna fly out there for the day just
to straighten you out. On this issue i'm gonna let
you know just how DISAPPOINTED in you i am AND
how angry i am with you that you've done this.
To me again you've made me, feel like shit and
you've made me feel like a fool over and over
and over a great again and as crap you pull
on me with this goddamn phone situation that you would
never dream of doing, to your mother and you do
it to me constantly and over. AND over again i
am gonna get on A plane or i'm gonna come
out there for The day and i'm gonna straighten your
ASS out when. I see you do. You understand me
i'm gonna really make sure. You get it i'm gonna,
Get a plane i'm, gonna Turn around and i'm. Gonna
come home so you Gotta be ready friday the twentieth to.
Meet With me so i'm gonna let you KNOW just
how i feel about what a rum little pig. You
really are you are a. Rude little pig, okay to this.
Speaker 2: What? Does she do? Do you do you know? What?
She did yeah. He tells it you have to, Kind,
of yeah no you'd have to kind of know he's. A, divorced.
Speaker 1: Dad, yeah all right she's taking side.
Speaker 2: And he's trying to connect with her and she, says,
call me Yeah i'll be i'll be up, at seven thirty, and,
he goes okay that's ten thirty. My Time now alec
baldwin is one, of these guys in my OPINION that,
is i think a very very intelligent man and is
also a man that. Likes to work and if he can't,
do a movie he's done game shows because he has
little kids and he needs To Stay In. New york
city he can't be on a movie set for three
months or three weeks or. Whatever it is, so THERE'S
that and i think that he put his kid. As
a priority and who knows what call Time was and
alec comes, In and goes i'm not doing your. CALL
time today i need to talk to My daughter and
i've made an. Appointment to call and then he calls
and it goes right to voicemail and. He fucking snapped
and the, bad PART is while, i get. It you
go i'd love to hear some trained professionals, assessment of
that because you're talking about an eleven or twelve. Year
old girl you're calling her a. Thoughtless little pig i'm gonna.
Fly out there you're really for that? Visit, from dad
yeah YOU know.
Speaker 1: What i, MEAN time though I, Think, IN patrick wow.
I understand that, BUT in parenting i think. YOU'RE allowed
to i don't want to. Say you're allowed, but with
family you you, address, family differently right, you love them.
They love you know, nobody's going anywhere so you could
take more liberties. With your words i'm not saying it's, a,
Good thing, no, i'm saying like like my my father
would say some things To me that i'm sure he,
didn't mean necessarily, or my siblings but, he loved us
but at the same time he would be incredibly. Frustrated,
with us yeah and may fly off the.
Speaker 2: Handle mine too but at, the same TIME like sometimes,
i THINK now like I don't, Know i'm older. ALEC
is older i don't know how.
Speaker 1: Old he was he was about the age that, you
are now, twelve years ago because, he's sixty six, so get.
Speaker 2: BACK go back i don't Know how old. IRELAND is
today i. CAN find out i think that that had
to be what two, thousand and, eight two eight two.
Tho nineteen ten. We're, WORKING together yeah i think it
Was before mel gibson two. Thousand, and seven okay two.
Thousand and, seven all right so fall and. Having custody
ISSUE so The x wife kim over then eleven Year,
old daughter ireland and then when They Did the, alec
baldwin roast she got up and. It was, funny, oh
yeah yeah we'll be twenty eight, now, then yeah okay so,
But YOU can't like i guess MY thing AND i
wish i had, done this sooner, is don't react, don't
say anything just try to be consistent and then. There
ARE consequences but i don't need to rub your. FACE
in it. I get it you're a, twelve Year old
which i've. NEVER raised girls i, have no idea but
ask somebody. Who has it sounds like it's a tough
age kids trying to. Figure themselves out. You're not around
she lives with my, who knows right. Makes it tough
so like, MY thing is i just, don't SAY anything
or i say it once. And. That's it right three
things you got to do BY the time i get home.
Boom boom boom if, they're not done, not discussing it not.
Bringing it up just not hey For shit or i'm
not YOU know, what i mean not run any, worse
connect consequence. That's a done AND then that. I don't
need i don't. NEED to yell i don't need someone
having a recording of me yelling at my. Twelve Year
daughter but, i'm just saying you have a, History, Of
that alec so what do you think? Is gonna happen
and then you turn around and you say, to the
guy if the, camera wasn't here i'd. Snap your neck
it's not.
Speaker 1: A good look it's not. A GOOD look But i
think america, would side well oh they should.
Speaker 2: On THIS one and i know we're gonna say take politics.
Speaker 1: OUT of It, i think america, if you're asked if
you're a, common sense person. That was awful that was
you're being harassed about the probably the worst day, of
your life the worst moment, of your life which is
far more significant than probably the most the worst moments
in some. Of our LIVES and so i THINK that,
was i, Mean just yeah and if he had cocked
the guy, COLD cocked him i. COULDN'T blame him, i
REALLY couldn't, because i mean it's just, by the way
if you're that comic who would go, and do that
you better make sure that your, closet is.
Speaker 2: Empty even if, you are unknown BECAUSE that's stuff. I
DON'T know but i Don't know, the scoop guy but
he does a pretty, good, yeah right yeah he's. Got
some balls yeah he does say. That As Well, here's
ireland baldwin just one Minute From The, alec BALDWIN roast
which i believe. Was Twenty, Nineteen Hi.
Speaker 11: Dad i'm ireland.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 11: TO be here i almost didn't even know ABOUT it
because i haven't checked my voicemails from my dad from
the last like twelve.
Speaker 2: YEARS or something.
Speaker 11: I actually have a lot in common with the people
on this roast, BECAUSE like them i don't really know you.
Speaker 2: That well either.
Speaker 11: People know my Dad Has a Mission Impossible. MOVIE pretty
rock i know him as that guy from like half of.
My Birthday.
Speaker 2: Parties the road that, was pretty, Good all right yeah,
It was. Cute yeah. Cute IT'S stung ye. I felt it.
I felt it we'll, Take. Them moment danny what's the
old profession in? The book, Prostitution that's right and we.
Have a bust The Bust In, New, york city okay we'll,
get to it and then how it's all changing, in
the world. Oh sex, workers, oh, no no no.
Speaker 1: Like legitimately, changing oh, yeah all right we'll get to
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Speaker 7: Girls get, jury.
Speaker 2: Some girls you've o my bread to? Made my name
can you tell the name?
Speaker 1: Of this?
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girls ye say that's the type of Hony albums the snows.
Speaker 1: COME up with.
Speaker 2: I don't REMEMBER it's like.
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Speaker 1: Or two albums stones are still, cracking albums out give.
Speaker 2: Me a break there's a line in here that they
couldn't play on the. Radio for years, french girls SUNNING
and then i, THINK it's like i don't remember what
girls but they want. To HALF light but i don't have.
TIME for that, i DON'T know or i don't have enough.
JAM for that i. DON'T know what i forget the
line showed UP my back i can see because there's,
all THESE women and i forget which ones like? Half
the best and they thought he doesn't.
Speaker 12: Time everything, In the, WORLD.
Speaker 2: Britz clown.
Speaker 6: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: The part is listen? To the girls what? WERE you, Saying,
I apologize no It's.
Speaker 1: Like the, stones are Timeless like any stone songs you
listen to the last this.
Speaker 2: Is the seventies, some people, Say oh my i've always been.
A huge fan they sound like they could have. Been
recorded yesterday does?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Make, sense, yeah yeah sure like like. That could be
that's a very garage, man sound right so on somewhat
and that, kind of, that you know whiny, GUITAR and yeah.
I like it i love that. Kind of. Shit. That's
me uh You Looked, up hilario Baldwin who is, alex's
CURRENT wife who i believe had a whole big thing.
Where it was it was. A huge like i had
a friend who was very intrigued. By it All. She
spoke spanish she said She, was from spain, and, everybody's
like No. You're from, boston, oh, WOW okay yeah. I
don't know they tried. To bust her it sort, of
went nowhere but, it WAS embarrassing and, I kept going
I'm waiting for alec to snap. On this one. But
he didn't but how many? Kids they HAVE seven that
i counted seven. And, they're little yeah and. HE'S sixty
six i you don't want to you don't want. TO do,
That i mean i'm. Sure he's not i'm sure they. Got,
some help, Yeah of course i'm sure they. Got some
help she looks fantastic for.
Speaker 1: Having, seven kids, YEAH nor constructor i don't know, what she,
was your, CONSTRUCTOR plastic surgeon, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know i always forget about the.
Speaker 1: Plastic, SURGERY part.
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean it's.
Speaker 1: It's really expensive but THE one that i ALWAYS thought
that i Loved Locally, is sandra dorley the district attorney
of the, county were in who made headlines for ignoring
a police who tried to, pull her.
Speaker 2: Over and it pissed a. LOT of, people i mean
just had. Them FREAKING incense, and, i. Go god damn even,
in that garage. She looks great she looks. Better than
EVER and then i see her on a billboard or
a website and she had like what they call a,
deep neck contour so you get all that saggy shit that,
IT comes down, i don't know they tighten it up
and they must pull up a little bit, here and
yeah but. She admits it. Here's the thing she does not.
Hide FROM that, and i go. She looks great, she
looks right. It Looks great so hilaria, is doing SOMETHING what?
Do i know? Good for you the city here's trying?
Speaker 1: To grow hairback, wait for real, Well, not intentionally, No
me yeah i'm starting to. Lose, some hair okay? ARE you,
no i know but are you trying to grow? It,
BACK intentionally well i don't know how. To do that,
i'm just, JOKING but like i DON'T know how i
would be able.
Speaker 2: To, do that well there's there's stuff. You, CAN buy.
Speaker 1: Yeah i finesseteride the problem is that it lowers your.
Speaker 2: Testosterone, and Stuff yeah but i'm hearing. Like teacher shampoos,
oh REALLY yeah, and, i think uh there's some like
topical solutions that you can put. On.
Speaker 1: Your head yeah if you, use monoxidyl though you're gonna
need the rest. Of your life it'll kill the hair that,
you do have enhances the hair.
Speaker 2: That you don't i'm thinning. ON the top i get
a little, WORRIED back here i get a little. Friar.
Speaker 1: TUCK start yeah i starting to. Get one too it, Makes,
me nervous yeah in the corners.
Speaker 2: Of MY head so. I got it i. Don't want that.
Speaker 1: BUT that neutrafoile i. Heard, HIS garbage okay i. Heard
that stuff? DID that work i don't know Because the
supplements i've. Looked into it.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting to see as time goes by if we
become a state where, legalized sex workers we legalized sex.
Work come out we. Need, THE money well i mean
that would, be. THE thing right i think the only
place Right now Is. Denver TO colorado do, I don't Know.
I'm not, denver excuse? Me Pardon Me, uh Las vegas nev.
Speaker 1: You can't Actually, technically in Vegas.
Speaker 2: Illegal in vegas but In, parts of. EVANA that's right
i think it was like most of where Was Our?
Friends bunny ranch it Was Not. In, clark county no
it was off it was off, The beaten path. Yeah
it was it was Not, a near.
Speaker 1: Vegas it was there were two ranches, that He Owned, the, bunny,
ranch Yes, yes unf yeah he died.
Speaker 2: Running, for governor yeah and he was he was a
great kind of talking a heart. Attack, wing map yeah
he was a great kind.
Speaker 1: Of talk to. He's always friendly and then there was,
a chicken ranch which was. The other ranch he didn't.
Speaker 2: Run that. One So Uh in new york is moving
to shut down on alleged brothel operating under the guys
of a swinger Club in the Financial District Of. New
york city it's floors above a, popular police bar so
which would say to, me that cop some some police
officers may get drunk and. Go up There that's. ALL
i'm thinking, I Don't know, maybe i'm wrong because they
would know where this stuff is.
Speaker 1: More.
Speaker 2: Than anybody right It's Branded As Temptations. New york city
the club actively advertised, on social media boasting about catering
to threesomes. And, cuckold fantasies. Okay so guys undercover officers
investigating the spot reportedly bought illegal alcohol because they don't
have they must not have. A liquor license that would.
Be illegal alcohol because other thani and received lap dances
and were offered, sex for cash, The, club's operator johnny claims,
it's all misunderstanding comparing it to renting a hall. For,
an event meanwhile residents say the place has been a
well known, scene For years and instagram posts show a
mysterious Man nicknamed The, facilitator of fun flashing. Stacks of
cash the lawsuit seeks to shut down the club and.
The PROPERTY owners so i mean there's a fine line
between swingers, club, AND.
Speaker 1: Brothels, right, I guess well.
Speaker 2: I mean, you, know ones well one's paying for sex
and one is. Like, everybody's, volunteering yes yes that's exactly.
What it is. It's, volunteer work yeah you're an intern.
OR you're paid, i don't know what do you? Want
to do the private clubs are allowed to operate as
member only spaces for adult activities in a, lot of,
places you know and then, in, this case uh illegal
activity or is it just the city cracking down on?
SEX positive spaces. I can't tell i always go why
you think you have the cops in? Your, back pocket
well you know you would mean you guys. In on this.
You guy's good you're not, gonna, Bust, us right. Okay
we're good The Temptation Temptationous New york city instagram is
littered with, the raunchy post including the promotion for Twenty
Twenty three summer humping And bust a nut. Midweek play,
PARTY oh really i think this is the element. That it,
attracts see what but how are in. The financial district it's,
a secret. PLACE it's upstairs i gotta think you got some, whole,
High roller right.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make it so that like then some
guy like you Know. In, THE bronx yeah i could
do the same thing and then, he hot open. He,
gets busted well what, about these guys it's just.
Speaker 2: Not, as attractive, apparently you know you're not as attractive.
As the bronx like you.
Speaker 1: Gotta get you gotta you gotta make the rules the.
Speaker 2: Same, for everybody billy they had a merry cuckmuss and
They had swinger con twenty Twenty, five last friday Built
the largest friday night swinger Gathering in the Triste, coming
this friday the largest gathering of swingers. In one place,
hold your. Nose trit area that's not the. Sewer you're
Smelling it's swinger con. Twenty, twenty five wow. That's fucking wild.
THAT is wild. I don't know. I just Go i
just i'm not a fan of prostitution.
Speaker 1: OR legalizing CONSTITUTION i just i figure because it attracts, a,
certain element okay and.
Speaker 2: It's usually bad.
Speaker 1: Like for every quote unquote, sophisticated prostitution element there are
hundreds that go. THE other DIRECTION i.
Speaker 2: Don't, I don't know i understand. What you're saying like
if you went down into certain parts of the city,
where we live or any city anybody who's, listening is
near YOU'LL find what i would affect refer to, as, street,
squish right yeah you take confuse of. The, street meet
no this, Is, Street SQUISH yes and, i, always thought
yeah you're never gonna stop it because it's power and, money,
for women right they get the what, the guys want
or they'll do what. The guys want but then so, you,
could go well what's the problem in? High end places
but we don't know who's a sex who's? Been sex
trafficked told you got, to do this and you're gonna
be in a high end place and we're going to
buy expensive clothes and you're gonna go out there and
you're gonna be a pincushion for guys and you're gonna
have four or, five a night and each guy is
made to feel like he's. The, only guy yeah and.
That's the, job it's like that's the part. Where we
go even if you bring a higher, element into, it more,
money cleaner facility you Don't understand, what i'm saying the,
girls getting like, it's, still shitty yes because that's the
other part OF it that i think. IS going, on
i think can you imagine being one of the, undercover
COPS though like, i always go if you're. An undercover
cop that may be the greatest way to get away
with shit in. Your own, marriage OH well because i
can't TALK about.
Speaker 8: What i.
Speaker 2: DO i'm undercover i can't. TALK about IT i can't.
I can't talk i, can't, TELL you honey i. Can't,
TELL you listen i got an undercover. Sting going on
i'm not gonna be home till like two thirty three o'clock.
In the morning and you are. Going to temptations, You're
sitting there you're, getting lap dances you're, getting an offer.
You offered, sex, UH yeah boss i got three lap
dances and illegal. Bottle of, tequila you know can we expense? That, butot,
leg yeah right top part. OF the job i just
wanted to confirm the illegal activity.
Speaker 1: That, was it well that's not like a lot of like.
BAD habits, start i mean just like being undercover because
you have to do certain things to. Like fit in
like you Ever, Seen training day yes, for the guys
like smoking like angel dust because he has to, because
you know it's part. Of the job or Twenty Four
where keifer suttlin's character like became a heroin at it because.
Speaker 2: He Was, Undercover ID.
Speaker 1: Bean so i REMEMBER once when i was a kid
watching an episode of twenty twenty because it WAS. ON
after tgif i JUST left the TV on and. I
was bored this cop undercover cop talking about how like
during the day he was like hanging with like drug.
Dealers and stuff he's driving, an expensive car and then,
five o'clock comes he's got.
Speaker 2: To go home he Gets, into his no he gets.
Speaker 1: Into a station wagon, and drives home, and, he's like
MAN what? Am i doing i'm remembering thirty thousand. Dollars
a year my, WIFE'S at home i, got THREE kids
and i gotta get the station wagon to go to
this corner store. To Get milk but i'm driving Around
into freaking mercedes all day in a five.
Speaker 2: Thousand dollars suit, Yeah, it's nice. Yeah it's good and
then you.
Speaker 1: All, of, a SUDDEN Like am i i'm living?
Speaker 6: On?
Speaker 2: The, textpayers yeah hey where's my? Tax dollars going you?
Got that? Suit?
Speaker 1: Fucking movie yeah decide that says your text?
Speaker 2: Dollars, AT work well i think there was a hooker
even in like. This, area, ONE wow yeah i think
there was who? Was busted?
Speaker 1: Frock, Oh, really yeah okay doesn't that happen all the time.
Speaker 2: Or was, this, like no no this was like this
was like at her house, and somebody squealed, Oh.
Speaker 1: Really, okay well yeah that's the. Other thing too you
gotta trust your clientele and you're also. YOUR fellow.
Speaker 2: Madams, i haven't yeah there WAS a lot i lived
over in one of the nicer, parts of town right
at least, In the name and there was an al
salon down right, along the, canal and uh they were
taking they. Were doing stuff. They GOT busted and, i
always go how many times did a guy go in
there to? Get him busted and how many times did all,
of a, sudden you, know the body the, body camera,
broke ship bob what fuck? Do we? Go, wait, after.
Listen listen listen lots of. Jobs have perked some guys
get to go, to ball games some guys get to go.
On private jets he gets.
Speaker 1: His, rocks off yeah, after four years we finally cracked
the Code of this.
Speaker 2: Elid's gonna get to the bottom. Of THAT stuff it's,
i don't know because, to your point does it? Bring
DOWN neighborhoods and i wouldn't want. THAT near me i wouldn't,
want you know my. Kids and stuff we we we
talked to somebody around here who is running remember, The
transgender person and they. WERE giving massages i don't know
if you were. Here for that they were supposedly, a
massage place but really they. WERE something else i wasn't.
Here for that and we talked TO this person i
forget who the name of what they, were calling themselves,
AND uh YEAH i mean. I don't know and how
does the club thrive right above a cop popular cop?
Bar for years be? THEY were protected.
Speaker 1: I don't know so somebody really had to have it
out for these guys to go and. BUST this, player i.
Speaker 2: Guess see it feels like it. Feels like that i'm.
JUST saying that i just think these, things GO on
and i do wonder at some point to, you, just
go look we're never gonna. Stamp it out it's the
greatest game of cat. And mouse ever, and you know once,
we get one we. POP up another i understand the
sex trade that. That goes on that's, scary AND upsetting
and i like to think it doesn't go on as
much as some. People tell you you're, You're you know
i'm living in. A, crazy world look. THAT won't today
I Saw that, britney drexel's family Who We had don
drexel on our radio show often when that.
Speaker 1: Husband and her. EX husband's father.
Speaker 2: I think her family was awarded seven hundred MILLION dollars
from i don't know that they'll ever see a, dime of,
it no idea. That's LIKE oja but i think it
was from the guy. Who MURDERED her but i think
there was a lot of people who thought she got
swept up in the like THIS underground which i had.
NEVER sex trafficking i didn't really know. WHAT that was i.
NEVER really know I didn't even.
Speaker 1: I'M so naive i didn't even. Know THIS existence you
i gotta BE the most i gotta be the dumbest
forty four Year. Old, IN america no i, don't think
SO or maybe i just look through rose colored glasses.
Or just oblivious, my mother say. IGNORANCE is, bliss i
MEAN there's like i didn't realize that, stuff went On
and because i've, never really like let's put, it this
way when you when you go to like school to
become a sports writer, and a sportscaster and you spend
your whole life like just worried about sports journalism and
sports you don't look at. The outside world it's like
living at. A. Toy store yeah and then like only
in the last like SEVEN years since i started working
in like the real Real world, that i'm like, OH
my gosh i had NO idea what i.
Speaker 2: Was oblivious to still don't like what give, Me, one
example oh human trafficking is.
Speaker 1: A big one i didn't realize. In this, Country OH
yeah like i didn't realize this was. Such a thing that's.
That's one example just like how like uh quid pro
pull quid pro quo stuff and in to the levels
that it Gets, to in congress OR what the CIA
and the fbi really do to like get get confessions.
Speaker 2: OUT of, it i mean just.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing IT'S it's just i didn't realize like
how OUT of touch i. WAS with life i was
just going through life Like.
Speaker 2: That little, danny yeah, Right, hey guys, yeah wat balloon it's. A.
Speaker 1: GREAT day yeah I don't think i, was that naive,
but but uh you, never Pretty close like i'm one
of those people who always you once said, this, About
me boy I'VE never because.
Speaker 2: I don't remember i don't. Remember these things and then
they sounds. So much, worse, you, said, like no no
this isn't.
Speaker 1: A bad, THING you said i have never met someone
with more purer. Intentions, THAN you, yeah i go what? Do,
you mean yeah you're like you don't see bad in,
People at all like you don't, see, Danger nothing like
oh he's A, Good yeah danny yeah he.
Speaker 2: Told he stole oh you just you just Said It.
About dennis hoff what? Did you say what? A great
guy what a great? Guy sounding guy he was. A
great guy. He was friendly what. A Friendly guy but dennis. Had,
a business dennis he was a. He was aim he.
Speaker 1: Was, a shark yeah he was a.
Speaker 2: Shark that time you want to get on. His bad
side he Was a big i'm sure there's a whole
ugly side to that guy that we. Never knew about
but HE. Got on hbo. He did that he was he. Was,
a hustler yeah he was a hustler and could sell
it and showed Up at different like we met him
at a radio convention and he had oh YOU didn't
know i. Never met him he had two or three
broads with, him and yeah he got his card and
then we. Called him, up yeah, yeah, he answered yeah
like three. IN the morning i don't know. Something. Like
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Well that's ironic were there rumors about him before he
came out or before, He, was outed well you can't
go around look at that pretty and not have people wonder.
You were pretty you. Made yourself pretty you had the,
perfect beard line your hair was done. And it's frosted you,
had to.
Speaker 1: Cry, of Course okay because i'm, a LITTLE young, like
I Wrote like george, MICHAEL went out i didn't know
who he was or.
Speaker 2: What he DID and then, I got, older, i'm.
Speaker 1: Like oh that's The. Guy, from wham yeah.
Speaker 2: And then that story came out abou him.
Speaker 8: In.
Speaker 1: The, bathroom yes oh because when he was at the
when he was singing at The concert For Life, For freddie,
mercury i'm like he's more in? A pink suit is?
This guy, gay Oh No. That's, elton, john oh. Okay
going along talk, about being, Naive.
Speaker 2: You Know vinny gett as, was going on you're a
dumbass and. Ignorance.
Speaker 5: IS bliss yeah I don't think i, was that, IGNORANT
but no, I don't either.
Speaker 1: Like there WERE some things i just oblivious to it
didn't know exist time parked in an episode about, NAMBLA
uh right i thought they made the. Whole thing up
and then the.
Speaker 2: Man, BOY loveless yeah i had a saying this is
real sex. And, FOR it yeah i thought. It, was terrible.
Speaker 1: YEAH it's awful I Thought the south PARK made the
mambla and THEN found that I was working wait. Wait
that's real oh yeah all yeah, Before, THE right yeah. I,
Think SO yeah well.
Speaker 2: MAMBLO was around. I don't whatever i only know that,
BECAUSE mm hmm, i, know, yeah, NO no no i
had nothing to do with. ME being molassed i wasn't molassed,
by a member a card CARRYING. MEMBER of mambla. I
don't know. I don't know, I JUST know like, i
told you my dad wrote grants for something called this center. For, missing, children.
MISSING yeah missing i don't know if they, were unexploded
children but there was a center. For missing children what
their purpose was was to work with the family. That's
left behind So mom and dad's focuses on the, kid
that left and they Were You, know stephen stainer who
you could watch. THE whole movie i think there's a
movie about It Where, he timothy. White his abductor. Steven's now,
fifteen you, KNOW you know I have a jamieson's fifteen.
IN two weeks i have another man living in, my house,
right six foot. Two, hundred pounds yeah it's. A man
physically i'm not gonna, say that, mentally BUT physically and
i think that. That's not attractive that's not what. You're.
Attracted to unfortunately so he went and got, This Other,
kid Timothy white and steven didn't want him to go
through what, he went through so he turned him in
and then when he comes back to live. With his
family that's what. This center was it Was based in
rochester and it was about working with the family and
the kids that are left behind and trying to help
the kid who the parents only remember. Up to eight
he has been missing for seven. Years, asimilate that yeah
and how? Hard that, is oh yeah. It was interesting life,
is so cool and so they did these. CONFERENCES and
things i remember my father coming, HOME and going i
don't know if he said. It to us he couldn't
have said it to us because this isn't something you
would say. To YOUR kids but i. Heard everything right,
AS a kid i was ALWAYS spying BECAUSE i figured
i was, always IN trouble so i had to be
one step.
Speaker 1: Ahead OF them and i, remember, hearing go yeah the
man boy, Loves those yes and their theory is, or
they're saying is sex before eight before, it's too late
and He goes and i'm not talking, about THE time
and i remember being a kid going ill like?
Speaker 2: What you? Know? Like what yeah and so that that's.
Speaker 1: Remember A movie and i think it was the Guy who,
started Oh Gosh.
Speaker 2: Not crime stoppers but? What was That, Oh, h, walsh Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: RANDOM walsh adam I remember. THE nbc, movie, i go mom?
Speaker 1: What's, this about well you don't want. To watch that
it's about. A little bit and she told me, the
whole STORY and then. I became, paranoid i'm like so we're,
at the store, this is why why why are you're still?
CLOSE to me i don't want to be Abducted like.
Speaker 2: That adam kid you were telling. Me about it they
made a movie about off. Game, for you yeah and It. Was,
So adam yeah MONDAY. Night at Nbc, I'M. Seeing yeah
nbc i'm seeing. A little TRANSITION. YOU mentioned nbc i
am seeing a lot. Of media, cuts, Oh yeah no i'm.
Speaker 1: NOT just talking Espn just told baseball we're not gonna pay.
Speaker 2: For baseball. Anymore We're Done So. Sunday night baseball things
won't be yet.
Speaker 1: After twenty twenty five or. After, twenty twenty yeah after,
Twenty twenty FIVE baseball and espn. Are parting. WAYS they're
done i Don't know where baseball Is GONNA get apple Tv,
five hundred yeah but for five hundred and fifty million
dollars to take, an entire.
Speaker 2: Package THEY'LL split Apple.
Speaker 1: Tv and, prime they could but the problem is THAT,
everybody has espn even though they're.
Speaker 2: Pulling the plug MORE people at espn.
Speaker 1: Than anything else there's still.
Speaker 2: The sports lamb but they can totally fuck on them.
Speaker 1: A little, bit they could, and they have but they
they just paid seventy billion or they're gonna pay seventy
billion DOLLARS. For the nba but Yet they told, baseball.
Speaker 2: They like now we.
Speaker 1: Can't, AFFORD it, yeah i, mean but. Yeah, Media cuts yes.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about well media cuts because you'll probably SEE,
headlines About msnbc and i'm sure, it'll, be like, well
the politically it's. Not that's that i'm not. Gonna say
that maybe that does play A. Piecent, two msnbc certainly
the tide seems to have changed politically. As a country
right most people Voted For. FOR president trump msnbc would
probably be on. The other side. Of, that aisle yeah
But that's not that's not The only one. I'm hearing
about like cuts you're not. Even aware, of you know people,
who schedule things people, who you know make sure that,
Commercials get, Played, producers directly yeah. They're shop sup and
you know people's money's. Money's BEING cut, and i THINK.
Speaker 1: Who did? I, just see well we have friends that
we know that we're on air programming and things.
Speaker 2: Of Different things but i'm NOT talking when. I actual
media i Don't mean just i'm. Not talking RADIO i'm talking. Tv,
EVERYWHERE everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah i think a lot of it is to do with,
streaming at it with YouTube and independent journalism if you
can call it that in some Cases.
Speaker 2: Yesterday yeh yeah there's nothing that depends on.
Speaker 1: The, other thing too is that a big chunk of
media's money is coming. From big Pharma And with bobby
kennedy now running that whole thing, for the government there's
talks that like, laws could change and it's going To.
GO through congress i don't think it's ever never, to
get passed, BUT you know i think people are on,
edge right now holding their breadth to wait and see what's.
Speaker 2: Going, to, happen yeah well talk to your doctor. About,
your problems listen if you're looking, for another job let
me just give you a pitch. For, sex work, yeah
hang on don't judge before you hear. The. WHOLE story
folks i read. This thing today there's a woman that Are.
Over in europe Her Name, is CATHERINE denore and i
don't know if she is making this all up. OR
it's legit i. DID no research i just. READ the
article a manager of your's. Largest legal brothels she originally.
Started studying neuropsychology NEUROPSYCHOLOGY the psychology. I could, get you
know you like being around. People and stuff but she
stumbled upon an academic paper. Discussing brothel management.
Speaker 1: But you gotta get your. PhD, in, something well boy you.
Speaker 2: Get your PhD but my father always talks about my
sister has a. PhD in linguistics somebody wrote their dissertation
on the word the that's how like focused. You can
get so. You're probably right so she it led her
to pursue sex work as a career. After eight years
she highlights the surprising corporate structure, of legal brothels WHICH,
include hr it security. And marketing departments it's not it's
like what happened to the pimp? And, the coat yeah no, More,
at all. Yeah streamline everything she also discussed the emotional complexity, of, role,
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Speaker 1: From Insurance Plans adult Star, Yeah HMOs, yeah.
Speaker 2: Angela white who reveals the heavy compliance regulations in, the
PORN industry from id verification to. Detailed boundary checklists both
women emphasize that legal sex work is far from the shady.
Reputation many assume it's a business just. Like, any other wow. Yeah,
that's incredible YEAH brothels. Have hr departments well HERE'S ONCE
THE i r.
Speaker 1: S gets, involved, but well no think about it like
you're dealing you're dealing. WITH like workers i, mean you
can't don't think you just, there's contract.
Speaker 2: Work right yes and then. There's like employees YOU'RE either
do w two or you're.
Speaker 1: Ten ninety nine all that's got to be documented because the,
money's coming in so it's got to. Be, Accounted for
right SO ONCE THE i r, s gets involved that's
when you have to. Have a bus imagine if prostitution
Were Legal In, new york state do you realize all
the hoops you have to go through to own A
Business In? New, york state yeah how?
Speaker 2: Much, it sucks yes and? All, the, paperwork yeah no imagine. That. For,
Hookers yes well, i'm, just saying well you got to get.
Speaker 1: The doctors involved because like there's got to be. Like
regular testing come.
Speaker 2: Back with me. For, A moment, oka i'm sorry. Let's
just go THEY have. An, hr department yeah the.
Speaker 1: Sexual, harassument, exists well okay do you imagine being written
up for inappropriate Behavior, Of, a.
Speaker 2: Hey dan? WHAT'S the matter i got FIRED for what
i called one of the.
Speaker 3: Girls, a whore.
Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't get any any. Dirtier than that, I'm,
ay rights HEY where's? The it department johnny wants To pay.
With apple pay we can't have this crisis going. Down
like this our, computers are down. We're, Backed up hey.
I'M a pamp i could take care of. Shit, for, it, no, no,
no no we don't do it. That way anymore we
reschedule you for Four. O'clock on tuesday you paid. For,
THE hour yeah i mean they got more compliance work
PaperWorks than. Most accounting offices probably they probably have.
Speaker 1: To, hire accountants well just Think about mister young's got
to come.
Speaker 2: Into this one how, about right now there's Some guy
named john the accountants sitting, THERE going fuck i could have.
HAD parking there i could have. Been. WORKING there yeah
i get free car washes once, in a while, but
go hey we're Really gonna get we'll give you the
undercarriage wash as well at. AN oil change i can
get an undercarriage wash and an oil change as a.
Perkin a broth they. Had, A tyrontation yeah i didn't
know that they were that. WELL legal sex i mean
when you, think about it it, all makes sense especially
if you want to run it. As a business many people,
have often said like even strip clubs and things should
be owned by women because they'll look out for each
other and have more invested. In the business they're not
just there to do, a lap, dance? You know snort
how does it work at? A?
Speaker 1: Strip, club, though like like how does how do? THEY
get paid i know. That sounds stupid just hear me. Out,
on this okay there's the. Lap dance part well is it?
Speaker 2: All in cash are?
Speaker 1: They all cash sometimes she's really really really rude to,
you or unattractive you take you just slip some change into.
Speaker 2: Her che strength. IT looks, no i uh how do?
They get paid are? THEY independent contractors. I don't know
i would assume. They probably are but, if you were
then to put them under a contract and give them
ownership so they so when the, place does well. They
do well whatever. That Percentage is.
Speaker 1: Like walmart cashiers it's what what?
Speaker 2: Do you mean do they they haven't percentage they get
they do the.
Speaker 1: Early the Early, days of walmart the cash ears actually
got like stock options. In the company they're like. Millionaire cash.
Speaker 2: Here it's. AWESOME that's Amazing i don't i'll. Take, so
anymore no probably not because. They're too big but what. An, amazing,
thing yeah.
Speaker 1: Right My God, like delta airlines like a lot of
the flight. Attendants and millionaires delta they have like. Like,
profit share yeah profit share? What, it's called, YEAH but
uh i mean you had To be in delta. A
long time you had To be at walmart a long time.
To get that but do they have like profit sharing
In the pro?
Speaker 2: Delta's upside DOWN from when I, hear in toronto do
you hear about the two Planes, THAT don't. Yes i did. It's,
Getting SCARY yeah and i know that we can go
is it seems like there's the.
Speaker 1: RIGHT, says it's dei the Left.
Speaker 2: Says it's trump that's, where, We're At right But i'm
not I'm not sure i'll go. DEEPER than that i
think there's dark, Forces, AT work okay I think there's
i think there's.
Speaker 1: Agents of chaos you think there are people that are trying,
to do this, THAT there's people i just the elements
that are trying to do. This, on purpose yeah.
Speaker 2: IT could be i. CAN see, that i mean look
for every OTHER argument De, EI or trump i think
this one's. Just, as valid Yeah that's. WHAT i'm saying.
I don't know i THINK there's. A i DO i, think,
i think man it never was like, a CONSPIRACY theorist
and i think most of these things. Fall under conspiracy
and we used to have Somebody on and i've been
thinking about this person. A lot lately we used to
have them on when we did the break room and
we made, fun OF them AND i think i. Pissed
him off But. IT was james i think His Name.
Is james dolan HE. Was a ufo he wrote about
UFOs and aliens, and different things and He lived in.
ROCHESTER educated guy i think he had A, master's in
english was also, maybe a professor and we would. Rip,
on him well now we're hearing things like, it's coming
out like there are, the great people. They really exist
some people. Are, saying this now where are they? GETTING
that information. I don't know i don't until you, really
TELL me or i get, something, that says yeah we knew,
this all along we, being the government but we just
figured people, couldn't handle it and we cut an agreement
that they would leave us alone and we'll. LEAVE them alone.
I don't know, i Don't know but i'm starting to
think like there's, different THINGS here and i am waiting
for all this information. To come out i'm waiting for it.
To come out i'm WAITING for, the i mean people
are going there's, going to, be you Know the the
epstein stuff, to, come out Right or the diddy stuff.
To come out i'm more excited about the it's tough.
TO go out i don't want to see who is
the Creepy. PEOPLE in ftein i don't want TO see,
SOMEBODY I, go i. GOD damn it i, like that guy.
Speaker 1: My old thing, that's, THE thing right i mean like
it goes back to the ignorance and, SPLITS part, like
i oh. Let's, be Honest Okay the cosby show was.
A wholesome show you'll never, see, It again no.
Speaker 2: God damn it what he.
Speaker 1: Did, was awful yes but the. Show, is phenomenal yeah
and well you'll.
Speaker 2: Never, see it no you. Can't, WATCH it no i don't.
Speaker 1: Think, unless you have like unless it's buried on one
of those like two b's or one of those, like you.
Know app channels that's the New. Channel rape ROKU you,
know i mean, BUT you know i mean like it
was A great. Show thursday nights, it revives sitcoms like
like they ushered in a new a new kind of
Sitcom with the thursday NIGHT.
Speaker 2: Lineup butt nbc yet you'll never see. That show again
Why because?
Speaker 1: WHAT cosby did i mean not that we're better off
not knowing, about.
Speaker 2: Saying yeah that's. A good point that's. A good point
i take the.
Speaker 1: Art from The Are like bill marer talks about separating
the art. From, the artist, yes you know and having
the ability, to do that and. It's not easy but
if you look, AT the, art I mean doctor huxtable
and that family raised a generation of kids and taught them.
Speaker 2: Right from wrong and, by the way, a black family.
Speaker 1: Which you didn't see a successful black family On Television Until.
Speaker 2: The cosby show and to the, POINT where like i don't.
KNOW about that i don't. KNOW about, That i mean
I'm gonna say, i'll Say, This, the, jeffersons.
Speaker 1: Okay right but there was kind of A caricature archie
bunker were but they were like and they moved, On
up right.
Speaker 2: So you're right but they were a wealthy black family
and they also had one of the first probably, not
the first but one. OF the first, I would think
i don't know the answer to this interracial relationships on
there as well with one OF the, neighbors, i Remember yeah. The,
british Guy. Yeah no british There was. A british guy,
you are correct but this Was no WHITE american guy
i think had kind, of blonde hair, married to uh.
A black, woman and yeah so there. Was that stuff,
BUT you're right i. Mean there was they didn't have
kids though there were no Kids. On the jeffersons well, yeah,
there were yeah because there was even the they. Were
getting engaged she was the daughter was Dating, a white
okay and you. Are, fucking naive no you didn't, grow
up then so he didn't know that.
Speaker 1: WAS the seventies i was.
Speaker 2: An, eighties kid yeah they. Had, in nineteen Yeah So,
The cosby show, you're absolutely.
Speaker 1: Right it.
Speaker 2: Was it was it was.
Speaker 1: Because like the closest thing that was different strokes where
the rich white guy comes in and adopts the two
black kids and. Saves, the day, Right that's right.
Speaker 2: I'm saving you and here so here comes Like Well.
Speaker 1: The cosby show originally he was supposed to be she
was supposed to, be a plumber and he was supposed
to be. A cab driver and then the house They
Found in brooklyn heights was supposed to be the house.
For the, show they're, like oh wait this house is
way too expensive for a cab driver. And a plumber
let's make them a doctor. And a lawyer so that's,
what they did and they brought. In the kids and
then all, of a sudden now like even the Woman
who played sondra, on the show because, Remember watching interviews
so it Changed the way america has looked. At BLACK
people and i was like young enough, to hear that
go what? Do you mean, my, father goes oh you
don't you have. No, look naive okay we raised you
in this Shelter of. A christian. Home no idea how
what life Was Like, Outside Silver Creek, new york.
Speaker 2: Man no idea. It's My favorite now i'm going to
write a new Song Life, in silver Creek or maybe
i'll do my Own Life. In pine, Plains, they're similar.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're similar we'll never We'll never have cosby again
because because of.
Speaker 2: What, We, did right So When the epstein island, stuff
COMES out, like i know there's a lot of People
or things I've Read about president Trump And then president
trump was Seen. WITH with epstein i hate, to TELL
you but I don't think trump was involved. In. THAT
stuff No i think i'm Pretty sure that trump is
part of the reason. This stuff twisted, but years ago
like was coming out saying and wouldn't do, anything WITH
him and i thought at some point had contacted law,
enforcement and said you got to look. Into, THIS guy now,
i don't know but It's different. Things i've. Read that's it,
nothing concrete again little things sometimes snippets Of articles that
i'll see on SOCIAL media that i can't even really.
Attribute To anything so i'd say take that with a.
Grain OF salt maybe. I don't know. I don't know i'm,
just TELLING you like i think a, Lot, of people
yeah let's. JUST come out i want to see. At
the table i'm not sure that that's really gonna. HAPPENED
for him i don't think. HE was involved i don't
Think he was too many of THESE articles and i
can't really attribute them to, any One source but i've
seen a. Lot of it and sometimes when there's smoke like,
that there's fire and that this, fire is bad it
would be he didn't, do anything? Right? Do, it? Yeah
YEAH weird but i, mean it's uh it's gonna be
the next. VERY interesting year i think the next five are. Gonna,
be interesting Yeah that's. WHAT i'll say i think the
next five years we're going to see a lot and
you're gonna FIND out that i really want to. Know
all this some of, it, YOU do right i think
you want. To know it you just don't want to
know how.
Speaker 1: Much of it like you have certain, expectations of people
whether we want to believe. It, Or not RIGHT like
if i found out a certain athlete like a current
buffalo bill or, something like, that, let's say yeah it
Was Was at. Epstein island again and this is just
totally hypothetical that would really like of course, it would
course it would. Would, crush you yes You know. What
i'm saying think about anybody you've, learned, something, about yeah
yeah or that.
Speaker 2: You, really like yes you know. That you admire you
don't want to buy? Your FIRST comedies. THAT i mean
i fell in love. With Comedy absolutely go. Oh My
God was BILL cosby and i think it was his
whole bit. About THE family and i forget the name.
Of the special IT. WAS on hbo i was in.
MY grandmother's house i thought it. WAS so. FUNNY i
waited i could see either we're going to rerun it
or it was coming Up to, GET at eight i knew.
WHAT it was i got a tape recorder out to
RECORD it because i wanted to listen, to IT again
and i recorded IT. Off, the tv Yeah the. Whole
dennis thing you Go to the dennis and they try
to talk to you, and you're like how? You doing today,
i've been, good you know because. Your lips all it's
just at the, time to me it was so funny
and to hear, him talk, about you, Know his kids
daddy's great gives us, choc and cake, it's got eggs.
It's got milk why did you give? Them chocolate cake
and the whole bit. Like all that so when, THERE'S cospy, shit, i,
GO yeah man i had heard those stories for years
from different people WHO would why i.
Speaker 1: Had Heard Them FROM duffie and i Broke The news
tommy mulay. On the air you were gone, at that, Point,
HE goes, no, i go dude you, didn't hear, this
hanill burst you didn't. Hear this story story's been going.
Speaker 7: Out for years.
Speaker 2: Brow, shout out well we. All For real but i'm
surprised because he knew a lot OF the people i
knew in the business who would even had and they
would always Tell you a cosby there were just just,
rumors about it and the thing was like you can't, so.
Speaker 1: They said, oh he, was he was he wasn't faithful.
To his wife well that but. We didn't, know but
here but here's what you Don't know.
Speaker 2: About COSBY too and i don't want to, go too long,
but with groundbreaking uh for black people in, many many,
Places right uh kodak being, one of THEM and then.
Nascar was another he got. People black driver THERE was
a i forget, the, guy's name uh because He, drove
for indie HE, drove for nascar he drove for. Some other,
circuit he won like. At every circuit but he was
such a hothead and they always referred to him as
the uppity blank so and because he would push, back
against things and and he was a bit, of a hothead,
which didn't help and he would be. Out OF here
But i think cosby got investors and got that guy's
asked behind the Wheel of. A cosby car I'm Pretty
sure old cosby was involved, in doing that which EVEN,
today in nascar how many black? Drivers? Are, there one
Yeah that's. What I'm saying and i'm. Not, saying that
okay maybe it's maybe it's not. An appealing sport maybe it's.
Not a. SPORT they're exposed i don't know. WHAT it
is i can just tell you that there was One
guy and i'm, forgetting HIS name and i think, he's
still alive and he was the one. THAT went around
i Think he Did formula one indy was it just.
A great driver the guy, could drive anything and that's
not easy at. Those high speeds it's not we can
all make jokes say they're. Just going around you gotta have.
Nerves of steel you are centimeters away. From other cars
you gotta just. Go, for, it, there's it's. It's and
it's you're on an adrenaline high like none other when you.
Do THAT stuff Because i know cosby was influential and,
GETTING black investors I, think in nascar or JUST. Think,
about oj yeah that's.
Speaker 1: The, OBVIOUS one YEAH i mean i asked myself, THE
other night, i said SELF what if oj just stayed
home that night.
Speaker 2: It, wasn't gonna happen it wasn't Meant?
Speaker 1: To be yeah or how many times did he try
to do it and he? PUT it off. I, don't
know no you can only fight that. Demon, SO much
sure i Mean. When you're YEAH but.
Speaker 2: Like i Mean like like buffalo especially was crushed when IT. CAME.
Speaker 1: To o j simpson because he was. Their biggest ambassador.
Speaker 2: I'm the biggest. HERE'S my naivete i did not grow
up in. A sports household. I love sports parents got.
ME sports ILLUSTRATED i remember oj on the cover in
A forty. Nine yers uniform didn't even know He played
for buffalo. UNTIL years later i, had no idea no.
Idea that, wild, it's like yeah. But you're right i'm
sure the Whole city.
Speaker 7: Of.
Speaker 2: BUFFALO was yeah. I was here i. REMEMBER watching it
i was. On the RADIO well when i don't know
How what rothhell.
Speaker 1: Rochester COVERED it but nbc when they SHOW In, the
nba finals they put like they JUST went to oj exclusively,
forget Or two and, buffalo was LIKE we're going oj
wall the.
Speaker 2: Wall that was the. Network did that the network, did.
Speaker 1: Do It but like buffalo just knocked the game out. Of, the, box,
yeah completely yeah like so it depended on like so
We had the, eerie station too so if you want
to watch the GAME and, the oj chase you could
watch Both on.
Speaker 2: The erie Station, but in, buffalo, oh no no the.
HELL with basketball i thought They were, DOING oh okay
oj got.
Speaker 1: THE big box i think. It, WAS screen yeah i
think it was. Picture, and picture yeah it was, picture
and picture. Picture and Picture but in buffalo they, were
just no WE'RE just. Going oj period all the all
The stations to, mighty, have, fallen, Right yeah yeah. Mighty have,
Fallen all right well more stuff, WE'LL come.
Speaker 2: Out i guess daniel, Always, A pleasure. Yeah ford tomorrow
just talk. TO your doctor i think before before.
Speaker 1: You make it the rational guy has gotten off out.
Speaker 2: Of, the chair everything everything's Fuck Okay, FOR, Dann Marilla,
i bill moran will. See you tomorrow? What to do I'M.
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