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Speaker 4: the allegory of the Prometheus Lens to take a second
Speaker 4: look at everything. Well, I got a great guest for
Speaker 4: you guys today. I know I say that every week,
Speaker 4: but I mean it every week.
Speaker 2: I know I'm partial.
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Speaker 4: But this is a brother that got lined up to
Speaker 4: a good mutual friend of the show, somebody that we love,
Speaker 4: the River Winds. So this is a man that's been
Speaker 4: studying some things and got involved with the River Winds
Speaker 4: and they hooked me up with this guy, and I
Speaker 4: got a great conversation lined.
Speaker 2: Up for you.
Speaker 4: But I like to welcome to the show for the
Speaker 4: first time, hopefully the first of many, doctor Dan Biddle. Dan,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 4: Well, just for those that's not familiar with you, and
Speaker 4: this is your first time on the show, just kind
Speaker 4: of give an introduction who you are, what you do,
Speaker 4: and just give everybody a feel great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So my name's Dan Biddle are I'm president of
Speaker 2: a ministry called Genesis Apologetics. We provide faith based training
Speaker 2: primarily to Christians along the creation evolution discussion. Teenagers nowadays
Speaker 2: to graduate through high school are drowning in evolution theory.
Speaker 2: And for most students, and that's not an exaggeration, it's
Speaker 2: most about more than half of the students, it's wiping
Speaker 2: out their faith at least in biblical credibility. So we
Speaker 2: produce all kinds of videos and books and movies that
Speaker 2: substantiate the Genesis account because it's true God really did
Speaker 2: what he said in Genesis chapters one through eleven. It's
Speaker 2: real literal history that we can rely on today. So
Speaker 2: by way a personal background, I didn't used to believe
Speaker 2: all of this Genesis stuff was real history. I've been
Speaker 2: at Christian since age eleven. I strayed away for a
Speaker 2: few years, came back at age seventeen, and love studying
Speaker 2: the Bible and apologetics ever since age seventeen. But when
Speaker 2: it came to origins, I didn't know if Genesis was myth,
Speaker 2: allegory or real history. Until about fifteen years ago. I
Speaker 2: took a journey and I specifically studied paleontology, geology, looked
Speaker 2: at the dinosaur record in Noah's flood, and I pressure
Speaker 2: tested that topic of Noah's flood four months, and I
Speaker 2: spent thousands of dollars worth of research, and I flew
Speaker 2: to locations and became unwaveringly convinced that Noah's flood really happened,
Speaker 2: and it happened just recently and accounted for the demise
Speaker 2: of the dinosaurs, and that's led me to help start
Speaker 2: this ministry and get behind a lot of different movies
Speaker 2: that we put out. So I'm a research guy by training.
Speaker 2: I spent about twenty years as a testifying expert in
Speaker 2: both state and federal court cases. I was involved in
Speaker 2: over one hundred court cases dealing with statistics and research methods.
Speaker 2: So I love data, love research, and the Genesis account
Speaker 2: holds up every which way you want to pressure it
Speaker 2: and look at it and test it, it holds up
Speaker 2: as a very very valid account. And that's been a
Speaker 2: life changing awakening for me to realize that. So now
Speaker 2: our passion is to share that with others.
Speaker 4: Amen. Well, how we encountered was, like I said, the
Speaker 4: River Winds. They're good friends of mine and their neighbors,
Speaker 4: and any time they're doing anything cool down there on
Speaker 4: their property, they'll call me up. And they called me
Speaker 4: up a couple months back and was like, Hey, justin
Speaker 4: we're filming a documentary down here on the property and
Speaker 4: if you'd like to come, we got permission. If you'd
Speaker 4: like to come and do some filming and play with
Speaker 4: your drones and stuff, you're more than welcome to come
Speaker 4: on down. And so I came down and they were
Speaker 4: filming this documentary on these artifacts and these tablets called
Speaker 4: the wallam Olum, and I'd never heard of it. And
Speaker 4: they explained to me that it was this Native American
Speaker 4: tribe called the le Nape, and that there was these
Speaker 4: birch wood tablets that they had found, and that basically
Speaker 4: these tablets mirrored the Genesis account of creation, and that
Speaker 4: they had found these tablets, and that this company that
Speaker 4: was producing this movie wanted to uh do this movie
Speaker 4: with them on these tablets. And so that's how I
Speaker 4: got introduced to this subject. And they showed me your
Speaker 4: book and basically introduced us and give us give me
Speaker 4: your contact information. So that's why we're here today to
Speaker 4: talk about this wallam Olum. How did you come across
Speaker 4: uh this uh this find?
Speaker 2: You know, we had just finished our flood movie called
Speaker 2: The Arc in the Darkness. It was at about a
Speaker 2: thousand theaters last year since been seen by millions of people. Really, then,
Speaker 2: this is not a boast. It's it's probably the leading
Speaker 2: movie ever done about the historicity and the credibility of
Speaker 2: Noah's Flood. We had spent years doing the research worked
Speaker 2: with Sevenfold Films to produce it, and now it's out.
Speaker 2: It's free on YouTube. You can just go to Noah's
Speaker 2: Flood dot com to watch it for free. But we
Speaker 2: had just finished that and we thought, well, okay, well
Speaker 2: what's next. Well, the Tower Babbel is next. So let's
Speaker 2: research all the stories that we can find from all
Speaker 2: these different people groups around the world and find out
Speaker 2: how that account of the Babel dispersion is echoed throughout history.
Speaker 2: And you know what it was like shooting fish in
Speaker 2: a barrel. Every culture, every major culture knows where they
Speaker 2: came from. Secular historians won't admit it typically, but if
Speaker 2: you just take one piece, if you look at the
Speaker 2: echo of Noah's flood. Nick Legarty, a researcher, spent about
Speaker 2: ten years researching hundreds of Native American tribes in North
Speaker 2: and South America, and he documented three hundred independent, verifiable
Speaker 2: stories about Noah's Flood. Where they took the myth and
Speaker 2: the legend of that account and it echoed through multiple
Speaker 2: generations leading up to today. Over two hundred tribes have
Speaker 2: a story about Noah's Flood, over three hundred documented different accounts,
Speaker 2: and the uncanny thing is a number of the accounts
Speaker 2: have an undeniably similar overlap with scripture themes, like sending
Speaker 2: out a bird to find dry land or coming back
Speaker 2: with a twig, or he's seeing in the canoe. He's
Speaker 2: in there with his family, he lands on a high mountain,
Speaker 2: he sends a bird out to go look for dry land.
Speaker 2: It's just and you can't make this up. And we're
Speaker 2: talking about groups that were completely isolated from the European
Speaker 2: scriptures that we had been copying for centuries, and that
Speaker 2: you get these cultures back together and the stories that
Speaker 2: they have happened to overlap the Bible. So and then
Speaker 2: one of those stories that stood out was the wollem Oulam.
Speaker 2: It's otherwise known as the red score red record. Now,
Speaker 2: the word red has no connotation with respect to sometimes
Speaker 2: Native Americans, oftentimes in a disparaging way, being called red
Speaker 2: or red people. It doesn't mean the red score, the
Speaker 2: red history, the red record. It refers to the color
Speaker 2: of the pigment of the ink that was used on
Speaker 2: the tablet. So that's what it's called the red record
Speaker 2: or the red score. Other wise known as a Wallamollam.
Speaker 2: We hit that found some limited initial research that had
Speaker 2: been done on it back in the fifties, and then
Speaker 2: like Noah's Flood, the more we pressure tested and looked
Speaker 2: into the Wallamollam, we came away overwhelmingly convinced that it's
Speaker 2: a true historical artifact carried by the Native Americans for centuries,
Speaker 2: covering the history of ninety five of their chiefs or
Speaker 2: their sachems over a three thousand year period. And I'll
Speaker 2: get into some of the evidence that substantiates that as
Speaker 2: we go through the presentation.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: That's amazing because, like I said earlier, you know, when
Speaker 4: you just find all these supporting evidences throughout the world,
Speaker 4: like you'd mentioned, these these cultures that were just isolated,
Speaker 4: there's you know, too many coincidences to be coincidences. And
Speaker 4: when that went down there, when I went down there
Speaker 4: with the river winds, uh Ins had sent forward this
Speaker 4: crate with the what's the word, I'm looking for the artifacts,
Speaker 4: not not the actual ones, but the remakes. What's the word,
Speaker 4: I'm looking.
Speaker 2: For the wooden tablets of the Wallomon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that they were remakes of them,
Speaker 4: but man, they looked so cool when genuine, just like
Speaker 4: the actual pictures of it, and I actually got to
Speaker 4: see those and take some pictures and stuff of them.
Speaker 4: That that was really cool.
Speaker 2: Oh, that that's great. You know what's interesting about the
Speaker 2: Walla Molum and the flood accounts in general, is that
Speaker 2: when when you testify and provide evidence in a core case,
Speaker 2: sometimes the judge will use a litmus test for evidence
Speaker 2: and they'll call it what is the preponderance of evidence show?
Speaker 2: And I can tell you if there was only ten
Speaker 2: little scrimpy stories about Noah's flood echoed by the Native Americans,
Speaker 2: or maybe fifteen, or maybe even twenty, and they didn't
Speaker 2: have thematic overlaps with Noah's flood, I would probably dismiss
Speaker 2: the whole thing, as would most reasonable people. But the
Speaker 2: preponderance of evidence, the overwhelming amount of evidence, is that
Speaker 2: there's three hundred independent historical accounts of Noah's flood carried
Speaker 2: by Native Americans. I don't know, quite frankly, how secular
Speaker 2: researchers put a blindfold on and stick their head in
Speaker 2: the sand when it comes to things like this, because
Speaker 2: why is it that it is three high hundred accounts
Speaker 2: of Noah's flood? Why isn't in only five. If the
Speaker 2: Bible is just all myth and fairy tales, like the
Speaker 2: secular narrative would hold, how do you get three hundred
Speaker 2: accounts from two hundred different tribal records in history, two
Speaker 2: hundred independent, verifiable groups. Because sometimes you look at Native
Speaker 2: American tribes, they have a lot of overlap with how
Speaker 2: they identify. But like, for example, the Sue has got
Speaker 2: all kinds of different branches of it. But you know,
Speaker 2: we've got three hundred of these and they all echo
Speaker 2: the themes of Noah's flood, And sometimes the overlap with
Speaker 2: the Biblical account in both the sequence and the themes
Speaker 2: is undeniably overlapping. So, yeah, we're standing on good history
Speaker 2: his story when we look at things like Noah's flood,
Speaker 2: and so you come to something like the wallam molement,
Speaker 2: it shouldn't shouldn't be a big surprise that there's a
Speaker 2: very clear overlap with this Native American artifact going back
Speaker 2: to the eighteen hundreds and the modern Bibles that we have.
Speaker 4: To yes, replica that is the word that was escaping
Speaker 4: me earlier. Yes, but yeah, and even even the giant narrative,
Speaker 4: you know, how many stories do you have with the
Speaker 4: Native Americans about giants, even in North America, you know,
Speaker 4: awarding to that giant tribes, and even in South America
Speaker 4: talks about their god just getting mad at the giants
Speaker 4: and destroying the world with a flood, and then afterwards
Speaker 4: they built this tall tower to try to evade judgment
Speaker 4: if he destroys the world with a flood again. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's everywhere, brother.
Speaker 2: It is. It's incredible. I just found an account the
Speaker 2: other day where the Mayas and the Mayans and the
Speaker 2: Aztec line somewhere back in their history, it had been
Speaker 2: recorded that they even said that the flood had covered
Speaker 2: the highest hills by fifteen cubits of water, and they
Speaker 2: said that before they had ever seen a Bible, which
Speaker 2: fifteen cubans of water. So that's just one example. There's
Speaker 2: a whole host of them just like that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I will definitely cover some of the giants today as well,
Speaker 2: because that is also recorded in the wall. Imo.
Speaker 4: Nice. Yeah, I'm excited to see what you got because
Speaker 4: the river Winds didn't really get into detail with me.
Speaker 4: They just kind of just give me the thirty thousand
Speaker 4: foot view and I kind of got to look at
Speaker 4: some of the tablets. So this is my maiden voyage.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, well let's you want to go ahead and
Speaker 2: jump into the presentation. Then yeah, let's go. Great. Sounds good.
Speaker 2: So just a little bit about our ministry. I mentioned
Speaker 2: a little bit already, but our goal is to provide
Speaker 2: free creation training through video and book to students around
Speaker 2: the world. We have a YouTube channel with over thirty
Speaker 2: million views now about a quarter million subscribers, and I
Speaker 2: think we get about five thousand views a day. On
Speaker 2: some days it's more than that, but I think that's
Speaker 2: what we average. Lately, we put out a lot of
Speaker 2: movies like Genesis Impact, which is a great movie to
Speaker 2: see before you go into a secular history museum. We've
Speaker 2: got a movie on Foundations that talks about the significance
Speaker 2: of believing in a historical version of Genesis and how
Speaker 2: it can impact your life and how you live it.
Speaker 2: Here's our slide about Noah's Flood. You can watch it
Speaker 2: free these days. It's also available on streaming platforms several
Speaker 2: different streaming platforms like Amazon Prime and Hulu and all
Speaker 2: those different streaming channels. But you can also watch it free.
Speaker 2: Just go to Noah's Flood dot com. And it's called
Speaker 2: The Arc and the Darkness. It's about just under two
Speaker 2: hours long, but it's just packed with the evidence about
Speaker 2: Noah's flood. Our next one is called Out of Babel.
Speaker 2: You can see that just by going to Outofbabbel dot com.
Speaker 2: We've just finished filming in Arizona and it will be
Speaker 2: out later in twenty twenty six, so give us about
Speaker 2: nine months to a year. In this mo will also
Speaker 2: be hitting the theaters, and I'm going to actually be
Speaker 2: covering a lot of the evidence and themes that are
Speaker 2: in that movie. I'm going to be covering today because
Speaker 2: this movie really does put the Wallamullam front and center,
Speaker 2: where it shows the pilgrims and the Native American people
Speaker 2: coming together and comparing and contrasting their histories. It's a
Speaker 2: really fun movie. And here are some of the three
Speaker 2: of the most recent books that we've recently come out
Speaker 2: with that overlap and show the Native American histories and
Speaker 2: how it confirms the Bible. The first one there is
Speaker 2: called the Wallamollum, which is of course what we're talking
Speaker 2: today talking about today. I've got a book on the
Speaker 2: Nephelum and the Giants in North America and then one
Speaker 2: that we just finished on thunderbirds. You would be amazed
Speaker 2: at the number of tribes as over twenty tribes have
Speaker 2: histories and legends about thunderbirds, and many people, well everyone
Speaker 2: would admit that thunderbirds have a significant spiritual significance to
Speaker 2: Native Americans. But if you go back and look at
Speaker 2: their histories and what the Europeans wrote about their histories
Speaker 2: from the sixteenth century to the nineteenth century, most Native
Speaker 2: American tribes also regarded these thunderbirds as real flying creatures
Speaker 2: that were extinct, that went extinct within their recent histories,
Speaker 2: maybe the fifteen hundreds or sixteen hundreds, But we have
Speaker 2: all kinds of accounts from Native American historians and the
Speaker 2: Europeans who wrote and recorded the Native American histories about
Speaker 2: the Native Americans saying, no, these thunderbirds were real creatures.
Speaker 2: They flew down and scooped up our kids, predominantly women
Speaker 2: because the men sometimes are too heavy for these bigger birds.
Speaker 2: But it's basically post flood pterosaurs that were living and
Speaker 2: large territorns that lived during what we would frame as
Speaker 2: the Ice Age, and the biblical version of the Ice
Speaker 2: Age is that there's only one of them lasted about
Speaker 2: one thousand years after the flood, but there were large
Speaker 2: territories with twenty five foot wingspans flying around, and the
Speaker 2: Native Americans reported being terrorized by these large creatures. So
Speaker 2: we took all the stories, accounts and histories we could
Speaker 2: find and put that in that book on Thunderbirds and
Speaker 2: Flying Dragon's Great Book. We've got a video that will
Speaker 2: be coming out for free on YouTube in about two
Speaker 2: months on that same topic. So those are three that
Speaker 2: are kind of relevant to what we're going to be
Speaker 2: covering today. And looking at the walam Olum. Here's a
Speaker 2: painting that was done, I believe by a Native artist
Speaker 2: and he depicts a picture of how this wallem olam started.
Speaker 2: Mister Raffhanesquez is the credited person for recording the wallam Ollam.
Speaker 2: He was a historian and a professor in the early
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds. But as he said, there was a European
Speaker 2: doctor named doctor Ward who nursed an ailing, a Native
Speaker 2: American a Lenni Lenape historian, back to health. This was
Speaker 2: the guy was on the verge of death and doctor
Speaker 2: Ward provided him treatment in medicine. And then this guy,
Speaker 2: as a way of repaying him gave him a copy
Speaker 2: of the Wollomoll Records, which were birch bark tablets with
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty three glyphs on them that recorded
Speaker 2: the early history of humanity and creation as reported by
Speaker 2: the Lenni Lenape people. So that's where its origin starts.
Speaker 2: Here's what the book looks like by Raphanesque. He wrote
Speaker 2: it in eighteen eighty three, and of course it narrates
Speaker 2: incredibly with the story of the Bible, the first eleven
Speaker 2: chapters a historical account of creation, the flood, etc. So
Speaker 2: as you go through this book, you can see it's
Speaker 2: got one hundred and eighty three different glyphs in it
Speaker 2: that were allegedly recorded on these tablets. He worked for
Speaker 2: years and years and years with other people to interpret
Speaker 2: and record these glyphs that were recorded and memorized in songs,
Speaker 2: using the glyphs as pneumonics for the people who were
Speaker 2: the designated historians within tribes to remember him. That's how
Speaker 2: they would remember them both in sign song and glyph
Speaker 2: and then they would have them also written down on
Speaker 2: these tablets. Here's what the tablets and the glyphs looked like. Well,
Speaker 2: actually the tablets themselves are lost. We don't know what
Speaker 2: exactly the tablets look like, but it's been believed that
Speaker 2: they were recorded using red pigment ink like okra on
Speaker 2: birch tablets. So the first glyph you can see here,
Speaker 2: it says at the first there was the Great Manito
Speaker 2: was hovering over the waters. The Great creedor God was
Speaker 2: hovering over the water. And that's got an obvious motif
Speaker 2: that's very similar to to scripture. And this God was everywhere.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go through and we're going to be
Speaker 2: reading English translations of these as I go on, But
Speaker 2: I just wanted you to see the original book itself
Speaker 2: from eighteen thirty three and how he recorded these things,
Speaker 2: and the scholarship that he went through to work with
Speaker 2: Native Americans and others to get these things interpreted into English.
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Speaker 2: There were also other scholars Britain and Squire came along
Speaker 2: and did very significant scholarship and heavy lifting validating these
Speaker 2: glyphs and the language and the interpretations of them or
Speaker 2: the translations of them as well. All that's been documented
Speaker 2: in our book. I'm going to try to stay above
Speaker 2: the weeds during this presentation on the scholarship of them
Speaker 2: and just treat them at face value. But you can
Speaker 2: see here the original book in eighteen thirty three and
Speaker 2: what it looked like. If you want a quick distilled
Speaker 2: version of what we're going to be covering today, you
Speaker 2: can just go to Wallumolam dot com. A's w A.
Speaker 2: L amol Um and then you can see our video
Speaker 2: that we put on YouTube about the wallam Olum and
Speaker 2: it is I think it's about twenty minutes long or
Speaker 2: so when it goes through the history, significance, finding, and
Speaker 2: the credit ability of it. And then of course you've
Speaker 2: got the book on the Wallamulum. I think it's twelve
Speaker 2: dollars on Amazon or you can buy it through our website.
Speaker 2: But if you want to watch that video, just go
Speaker 2: to the wallum Olam. The Red Record of Creation, the
Speaker 2: Flood Babbel and the migration to the Americas, and that
Speaker 2: should pop right up on YouTube. So can we trust
Speaker 2: the walum Olam is credible? Well, I'd like to spell
Speaker 2: that out to you in three different ways. I'm going
Speaker 2: to block this in here. I'm going to prove as
Speaker 2: much as I can in maybe thirty minutes, using early
Speaker 2: history history that was written before the wallamo Ullam was discovered.
Speaker 2: Then we'll look at the wallum Olam credibility itself, and
Speaker 2: then we'll look at some things that were discovered after
Speaker 2: the walam Olam that validate the wallum Olm itself. So
Speaker 2: just looking at these briefly, we can validate the practice
Speaker 2: of using bark to record significant history. I've got some
Speaker 2: evidence to show you that that shows very clearly that
Speaker 2: it was, in fact a practice of Native American tribes,
Speaker 2: particularly in the Lenni Lenape region, for recording history on bark,
Speaker 2: using okra or etching. We'll look at a rare seventeenth
Speaker 2: century testimony from a Lenni Lenape native about this topic.
Speaker 2: Then we'll look at some internal credibility of the Wallamolum,
Speaker 2: and then we'll look at how the recent migratory path
Speaker 2: that's recorded in the Wallamolam has actually just recently been
Speaker 2: validated by doctor Nathaniel Jensen by looking at genetic markers
Speaker 2: that showed the direction and the timing of this people
Speaker 2: group coming from the west to the east coast. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: It maps right on top of the Wallamollam's history. And
Speaker 2: then we'll also look at some historical places and events
Speaker 2: that were discovered after the Wallamolam that validates the event
Speaker 2: that validate the events in the Wallamlum. So that's how
Speaker 2: we're going to break it down. We'll look at the
Speaker 2: early history that valid days beforehand, we'll look at a
Speaker 2: snapshot of the document itself, and we'll discuss some things
Speaker 2: that happened afterwards that give it credibility. This is a
Speaker 2: fun story. I'm just gonna have to read this to
Speaker 2: you because it is a significant introduction to the Wallamollum.
Speaker 2: Imagine this, this guy Jasper I can't pronounce that last name,
Speaker 2: Dan Cartz. Perhaps it's probably got a spin to it there,
Speaker 2: but imagine this. It's he's writing this in his journal.
Speaker 2: He's talking about this eighty year old Native Lenna Lenape
Speaker 2: guy that he meets. It's Monday October sixteenth, sixteen seventy nine. Now,
Speaker 2: the Wallamolum was allegedly discovered abround eighteen twenty, that was
Speaker 2: documented and written about in eighteen thirty three. But here's
Speaker 2: this account from this Jesuit European explorer on Monday October sixteenth,
Speaker 2: sixteen seventy nine. And as I read this, I just
Speaker 2: want you to think about one thing. This is an
Speaker 2: account of what an eighty year old Lennon Lenape guy
Speaker 2: said in sixteen seventy nine, And it sounds to me,
Speaker 2: as we're going to go through the Wallamolam, that this
Speaker 2: guy learned his history from the walam Olam, and we'll
Speaker 2: go through and just read this together. I know it's long,
Speaker 2: but it's really cool as we get through it. So
Speaker 2: this guy's writing in his diary in sixteen seventy ninety says,
Speaker 2: I was occupied today in copying my journal. In the morning,
Speaker 2: there came an Indian to our house, a man about
Speaker 2: eighty years of age, whom are people called Jasper, who
Speaker 2: lived at hassanak or at Akinon. We asked him where
Speaker 2: he believed he came from. He answered from his father.
Speaker 2: And where did your father come? From we said, and
Speaker 2: your grandfather and great grandfather owned so onto the first
Speaker 2: of the race. He was silent for a little while,
Speaker 2: either as if unable to climb up at once so
Speaker 2: high with the thoughts, or to express them without help.
Speaker 2: This guy was eighty years old. Then he took a
Speaker 2: piece of coal out of the fire where he sat,
Speaker 2: and he began to write upon the floor. So I
Speaker 2: wonder if this guy's reflecting back to a glyph that
Speaker 2: he was seen or trained in in his earlier years.
Speaker 2: He first drew a circle, then an oval, to which
Speaker 2: he made four paws or feet ahead, and a tail.
Speaker 2: It's obviously drawing a turtle, and the Lenni Lenape called
Speaker 2: themselves sometimes the turtle people. They talked about the turtle land. This,
Speaker 2: he says, is a tortoise lying in the water around it.
Speaker 2: It's almost as if he's describing a glyph from the Wallamollum.
Speaker 2: And he moved his hand round the figure, continuing, this
Speaker 2: was or is all water, and so at first was
Speaker 2: the world or the earth When the tortoise gradually raised
Speaker 2: its round back up high and the water ran off
Speaker 2: of it. These are exactly like the Wallamolla glyphs. As
Speaker 2: we go through, and thus the earth be came dry.
Speaker 2: And then he took a little straw and placed it
Speaker 2: on the end of the middle of the figure, and proceeded.
Speaker 2: The earth was now dry, and there grew a tree
Speaker 2: in the middle of the earth. And the root of
Speaker 2: this tree sent forth a sprout beside it, and there
Speaker 2: grew upon it a man, who was the first male.
Speaker 2: This man was then alone, and would have remained alone.
Speaker 2: But the tree bent over until its top touched the earth,
Speaker 2: and there shot up another route, from which came another sprout,
Speaker 2: and there grew upon it the woman. And from these
Speaker 2: two are all men produced. Now we're reading this and
Speaker 2: we're conditioned, we don't see how profoundly similar this is
Speaker 2: to Genesis. Why isn't he talking about a cricket that
Speaker 2: turned into a rat that turned into of the first man?
Speaker 2: Or why didn't the woman get created first and then
Speaker 2: the first man? Or why isn't that the chicken in
Speaker 2: the eight thing get reversed? And why is he talking
Speaker 2: about earth being raised up of water and then the
Speaker 2: earth being responsible for giving birth to the first man,
Speaker 2: and then a woman that comes afterwards. In fact, there
Speaker 2: are ten different things that this pre Wallamollam Lenni lenape Man,
Speaker 2: which is the people that gave birth to the Swallomollan.
Speaker 2: There are ten things that overlap with both the Wallomolm
Speaker 2: and the Bible anyways. So the first is this guy's
Speaker 2: talking about a turtle and a tortoise, which is a
Speaker 2: consistent theme throughout the Wallum Wallomolum. He's got a circle
Speaker 2: with water, land rising out of the water with water
Speaker 2: running off the land right there. That's Genesis one and
Speaker 2: this guy's riding in sixteen seventy nine. Earth became dry
Speaker 2: after this emergence, only land and water were at the
Speaker 2: very beginning, just like the Bible, and just like the Wallamollam,
Speaker 2: a tree grew from the middle of the earth. The
Speaker 2: human race began with the first male, a lonely man
Speaker 2: would have remained in that state without the first woman
Speaker 2: who came along. The first woman was created after man,
Speaker 2: and all humans came from this first couple. So we
Speaker 2: think this is just a common story because we're conditioned
Speaker 2: about the Genesis account. But if this is just some
Speaker 2: odd story, some myth that this guy chose to redraw
Speaker 2: with a glyph that he was probably trained in from
Speaker 2: his earlier years. It could have been about anything a frog,
Speaker 2: a cow, a lizard, a stream, a separate planet. There's
Speaker 2: anything he could have pulled from. But it just so
Speaker 2: happens that this eighty year old Lenni Lenape native in
Speaker 2: the year sixteen seventy nine polls from something that's incredibly
Speaker 2: overlapping with the Bible and incredibly overlapping with the Wollomolem
Speaker 2: all at the same time. And he even draws a
Speaker 2: glyph in the ground. It's what his defacto way was
Speaker 2: for explaining how he came from where he came from,
Speaker 2: and the sequence in the order of creation was almost
Speaker 2: an exact repetition of what we're going to see in
Speaker 2: the Wallamalum. So there we have. It's something in sixteen
Speaker 2: seventy nine that was pre dating of the Wallamolm. That's
Speaker 2: just like it. So here we have something from the
Speaker 2: seventh Annual Report of the Smithsonian, and it is a
Speaker 2: pre eighteen twenties or a birch bark etching of the
Speaker 2: histories that was recorded by these people groups. This is
Speaker 2: not the Lenin Lenape, it's it's an adjacent tribe. But
Speaker 2: here we have an example of how the Native peoples
Speaker 2: were recording their histories on birch tablets. Here's another one
Speaker 2: that was done in before eighteen twenty five, a sacred
Speaker 2: birch bark records. So we know these Native Americans were
Speaker 2: doing this practice before eighteen twenty They were etching out
Speaker 2: member and significant historical events on birch bark, So why
Speaker 2: wouldn't they go all the way back to their early beginning.
Speaker 2: So here we have just an example of the practice.
Speaker 4: Is just a levers thing. Guys. You know something we
Speaker 4: come up with, you know, going in the woods and
Speaker 4: writing your sweetheart's name with a hardy and they were
Speaker 4: doing this long before us.
Speaker 2: Yes, you've got it, and we still have these artifacts
Speaker 2: today proving this is exactly what they what they did good.
Speaker 2: So let's look at the Wallamollum Bible overlaps. So you'll
Speaker 2: notice two things very similar as we go through comparing
Speaker 2: the Bible and the Wallamollam. It's both the sequence of
Speaker 2: the events and the events themselves. When you want to
Speaker 2: look at validating something, it's one thing to have the
Speaker 2: same basic elements between two different stories, But if the
Speaker 2: elements are timed in sequence, going together and they're connected
Speaker 2: in the same way. Now, all of a sudden, we
Speaker 2: have a real strong overlap. It's a two dimensional overlap.
Speaker 2: You've got the same basic components and they're arranged in
Speaker 2: the same way, in the same order. And that's exactly
Speaker 2: what we have when we compare the Wallamollum with the Bible.
Speaker 2: Here are the same major themes that are connected in
Speaker 2: a similar order. And I would also argue that the
Speaker 2: differences and the distinctions that exist between these one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty three glyphs and the Bible also validates the
Speaker 2: fact that they are telling their own history because it's
Speaker 2: not an identical overlap. There are some distinctions, which is
Speaker 2: exactly what you would expect if this group carried. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're their genesis history from millennia in the past. We've
Speaker 2: got things like you know. They both talk about one creator, God,
Speaker 2: the first man and the first woman. They talk about
Speaker 2: a garden and food. There's one primary evil spirit being.
Speaker 2: They both talk about that. They both talk about Noah's flood.
Speaker 2: Here we have a small difference in the Lena Lenape
Speaker 2: account with the Wallamolem. They ascribe the flood to being
Speaker 2: caused by Satan, the one evil Manito as they they
Speaker 2: would call it is the one that sent the flood.
Speaker 2: They also said that Satan is responsible for creating gnats
Speaker 2: and mosquitoes and some evil giant reptiles. Is not increasing,
Speaker 2: we would agree. Anyone who's lived in the on the
Speaker 2: and the down south would agree. I would think so.
Speaker 2: And then of course we have a human restart with
Speaker 2: the patriarch like Noah. The Wallamullum talks about giants, it
Speaker 2: talks about the ice age, and it has the migration
Speaker 2: that goes across ninety five different setchems or chiefs spanning
Speaker 2: of three thousand year period. So for me, these are
Speaker 2: very confirmatory things in two in two ways. Number one,
Speaker 2: it's a legit history, historical account of the Lenning Lenape
Speaker 2: people and its substantiates. The history that they had was
Speaker 2: echoed from the Babbel dispersion, which they kept the same
Speaker 2: sequence and order in same basic events in Genesis all
Speaker 2: the way through to their histories. And you know what's
Speaker 2: fascinating is it's not just the Lenning Lenape. If you
Speaker 2: go back through Native American history, many of them have
Speaker 2: the motif of the flood, as we talked about earlier,
Speaker 2: as well as the Babbel dispersion, and some of the
Speaker 2: other basic things that are in the Bible's history. All right,
Speaker 2: moving on from there, let's just dig right in now.
Speaker 2: I don't have time, of course, to read through all
Speaker 2: of these, so let's just look at the first one,
Speaker 2: the first tablet, at the first eight glyphs, and then
Speaker 2: we'll kind of scan through some of the other ones,
Speaker 2: because I think I've got maybe seven or eight of
Speaker 2: these tablets up to Let's just look at the first one.
Speaker 2: So mentioned this before. So the first which glyphs is
Speaker 2: at first in that place at all times above the earth.
Speaker 2: Second gliph over in an extended fog. There was a
Speaker 2: great Manito, and of course the Bible is God hovering
Speaker 2: over the water at the beginning, right, and there was
Speaker 2: nothing there, and God breathed the Latin ex nihilo, he breathe,
Speaker 2: He spoke a word and put an established creation. So
Speaker 2: at first, forever lost in space, everywhere this great Manito was.
Speaker 2: He made the extended land and the sky, he made
Speaker 2: the sun, moon and stars, he made them all move evenly.
Speaker 2: And look at the order of events here. We don't
Speaker 2: have mam and mammals, yet we don't have fish with
Speaker 2: the Genesis account, God forms the earth and then he
Speaker 2: fills it. We don't have mammals, man, fish, and birds
Speaker 2: until days five and six, So so far we're very
Speaker 2: similar to the Bible's account. Then the wind blew violently,
Speaker 2: and it cleared off, and the water flowed off far
Speaker 2: and strong, so almost like let the dry land appear
Speaker 2: day through creation, and all groups of island grew nearly
Speaker 2: and then they remained. Then if we look at the
Speaker 2: next book here glyphs nine through fourteen, it continues. It
Speaker 2: puts a man the grandfather of all men, and also
Speaker 2: puts a sign of dominion on that man, like everything
Speaker 2: is going to be underneath that man. Then we put
Speaker 2: in the first mother. Then we have the fish and
Speaker 2: the beasts and the birds like under his dominion. And
Speaker 2: then we have a glyph fourteen an evil Manito made
Speaker 2: evil beings only monsters. That's the first sign of the
Speaker 2: Genesis sixth problem. We've got a very clear record here
Speaker 2: with the Lenni Lenape breaching this subject of giants, because
Speaker 2: they called it the Manito made evil beings only monsters.
Speaker 2: And later we'll see that they called the snake people
Speaker 2: that were birthed by or of this evil minido. They
Speaker 2: called him the Goweni, which means big men. Very very interesting,
Speaker 2: very significant to what the Bible does for people too,
Speaker 2: you know, yes, yeah, exactly, the snake people. So we
Speaker 2: have here the snake. Continuing on book number one at
Speaker 2: the you know, we've got them in the middle. Here
Speaker 2: we have to those very first men, the very first mothers,
Speaker 2: the wives came, they found food in a garden. Everything
Speaker 2: was great. But then and glyph twenty one, very secretly,
Speaker 2: an evil being, a mighty magician came on earth. A
Speaker 2: powerful evil snake came about. Look he's hiding underneath the
Speaker 2: ground and he comes up, and then he starts wrecking things.
Speaker 2: We go on, and then on glyph number two, our
Speaker 2: book number two, glyph one, we have the first introduction
Speaker 2: of the mac oweeny long ago there was a mighty
Speaker 2: snake and beings evil to men. And then there's another
Speaker 2: translation that says when the big men stayed there, human
Speaker 2: beings lived on earth. There's another footnote there that they
Speaker 2: say human beings who lived on this earth prior to
Speaker 2: the deluge are said by the Shawnee to have been
Speaker 2: larger than people who aren't living now and lived longer,
Speaker 2: which is exactly what the Bible account has with the
Speaker 2: Genesis patriarchs living in average of nine hundred and twelve years.
Speaker 2: Very fascinating. So this evil snake starts conflict with the
Speaker 2: human line. Glynum of Book two to there, this mighty
Speaker 2: steak hated those who were there, and greatly disquieted those
Speaker 2: whom he hated. They did both harm, they'd injured each other.
Speaker 2: They were not at peace. They were driven from their homes.
Speaker 2: And now we go on. Now we have the flood.
Speaker 2: The mighty snake firmly resolved to flood and to harm men.
Speaker 2: He brought three persons a monster rushing water between the hills,
Speaker 2: and the water rushed and rushed, dashing through and through,
Speaker 2: destroying much. But then we have Nana Bush, which is
Speaker 2: also a similarly named patriarch Noah theme that's carried over
Speaker 2: in many different tribes. They all have a Noah type
Speaker 2: of guy, and sometimes his name actually sounds like Noah.
Speaker 2: And here we have Nana Bush. This strong white one,
Speaker 2: the grandfather of all beings of all men, was on
Speaker 2: Turtle Island. He preserves humanity and then gets off as
Speaker 2: we see in booked as Book two continues, and then
Speaker 2: book three Glyph one and two, after the rushing waters
Speaker 2: have subsided the lenape of the turtle. We're close together
Speaker 2: at hollow houses, living together. And then look at this,
Speaker 2: we have the onset of the ice age. Now from
Speaker 2: a biblical creation standpoint, this science is very very clear.
Speaker 2: We are the only group around that has a true
Speaker 2: mechanism for one single mass ice age. The secularists have
Speaker 2: got five. They have different mechanisms that they think started
Speaker 2: the ice age, but we've got it. It's very clear.
Speaker 2: When you cover the Earth with flood and you have
Speaker 2: traffic plate tectonics and volcanism going on the ash, and
Speaker 2: the aeroshols go up from the From the volcanics, they
Speaker 2: block the sun, they bring cooling. You've got the glaciers
Speaker 2: being pulled up and held in water, waters held in ice.
Speaker 2: You've got perfect conditions for a ice age that began
Speaker 2: about one hundred years after the flood had lasted for
Speaker 2: about one thousand years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's there's there's there's two somewhat competing
Speaker 2: theories in creation science. You've got the hydroplate theory framed
Speaker 2: by Brown, and you've got catastrophic plate tectonics. We lean
Speaker 2: catastrophic plate tectonics. But I can tell you that I
Speaker 2: think we all go to heaven and we get to
Speaker 2: see the replay button. I think people from both camps
Speaker 2: are going to be surprised how it actually happened. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's tons of evidence that it absolutely happened. We've got
Speaker 2: all kinds of geological evidence that it happened. But here
Speaker 2: we've got this Native American document allegedly from the early
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds that have got the sequence of events the
Speaker 2: same as the Bible. They've got one great creator, they've
Speaker 2: got Satan, they've got the creative creation of man and woman,
Speaker 2: and then a garden, and then they've got an evil
Speaker 2: snake that comes and brings bad things, and then we've
Speaker 2: got the flood. Then we've got an ice age after
Speaker 2: the flood. How on Earth when Native Americans know to
Speaker 2: park the ice age after Noah's flood. It's incredible, amazing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just incredible. Then the last one we'll take a look
Speaker 2: at here is really the beginning of the dispersion. On
Speaker 2: book three, it talks about how they're going to start
Speaker 2: spreading around. Now they're going to be chasing the deer
Speaker 2: and the buffalo. They're going to stretch. They separate into
Speaker 2: house builders and hunters, and then after this time they
Speaker 2: start naming significant sachems or chiefs who were leading their
Speaker 2: tribe and their community through these various parts of America
Speaker 2: as they go travel from the west coast to the
Speaker 2: east coast. And the amazing thing that we'll see here
Speaker 2: is they run into this snake land that had this
Speaker 2: snake people, and they were terrified of these snake people,
Speaker 2: and they did battle with the snake people, and they
Speaker 2: actually formed an alliance with other Native American tribes that
Speaker 2: drive them down the Mississippi. And we've got great evidence
Speaker 2: for that too. All I continue on here as we
Speaker 2: go through. So we've got this migration of the lenning
Speaker 2: Lenape people to the Americas. So the biblical account is
Speaker 2: that they dispersed from the Tower Babble about forty three
Speaker 2: hundred years ago or so, and the Lenning Lenape people
Speaker 2: went this direction, and when we pick it up across
Speaker 2: the bearing straight they go into the Americas. This is
Speaker 2: where doctor Nathaniel Jensen's ever is clutch. He comes in
Speaker 2: and shows, using genetic markers and evidence, how this migratory
Speaker 2: path absolutely happened, just like the Wallam Olam said, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: Here's the his capstone article on the piece it's his
Speaker 2: Young Earth why chromosome clocks confirmed known post Columbian Amerindian
Speaker 2: population history and suggests pre Columbian population replacement in the Americas.
Speaker 2: Fancy speak for he tracked the Lena Lenape people and
Speaker 2: confirmed the wallam Oulam. He's an endorser of the walam Oulm.
Speaker 2: He was as surprised as we were to see how
Speaker 2: much genetic evidence maps right on top of two things,
Speaker 2: both the direction of the migratory path and the and
Speaker 2: the timing of the migratory path. So this is an
Speaker 2: interesting graph here that shows as a start going from
Speaker 2: the north west here, they start coming down when they
Speaker 2: get into where we find most of the giant skeletons
Speaker 2: in America. They said the strong Stone people, or the
Speaker 2: snakes or the invaders, that's where they started having combat
Speaker 2: with the Macaweeny, the snake people. River Valley, the Higher
Speaker 2: River Valley, and lo and behold, I'm going to show
Speaker 2: you that next. Let me just speed up to that one.
Speaker 2: I'm going to come back. Here is a map of
Speaker 2: three thousand giant skeletons that have been reported all over America.
Speaker 2: So we don't want to be branded as conspiracy people.
Speaker 2: So we did our own research and dug into the
Speaker 2: research of others. We found eight hundred and eighty five
Speaker 2: documented accounts of giant skeletons reported by one two hundred
Speaker 2: people over reporting over three thousand giant skeletons, found most
Speaker 2: of them between seven and twelve feet tall, all over America.
Speaker 2: And isn't it interesting when you look at this map,
Speaker 2: because we plotted the whole thing out. Where they start
Speaker 2: saying that they ran into the snake people is where
Speaker 2: the clustering is of the Ohio River Valley. Here's a
Speaker 2: Smithsonian document and it's hard to see here, but each
Speaker 2: one of these little tiny orange dots is where they
Speaker 2: found mounds. And when they found this in eighteen ninety four,
Speaker 2: well before this is when the map was made and
Speaker 2: they had the Smithsonian historians document all these They estimated
Speaker 2: that there were tens of thousands of these mounds. We
Speaker 2: now know there's hundreds of thousands of these mounds, and
Speaker 2: there's hundreds and hundreds of earthworks that happened to be
Speaker 2: aligned with the sun, moon and stars, the solstices equinoxes.
Speaker 2: These people who built these mounds were really into star warship,
Speaker 2: which is expressly forbidden in the Bible, and a number
Speaker 2: of them were tall and worked with advanced metallurgy and copper,
Speaker 2: and they were into human sacrifice and all kinds of
Speaker 2: stuff that they shouldn't be into. So we would say
Speaker 2: that they're Nephilim associated or Nephilam influenced tribes. I'll go
Speaker 2: back to where we left off right here, isn't as interesting.
Speaker 2: Look at this guy, a Native American Lenny Lenape historian says,
Speaker 2: quote the cannibals, And we know that the Bible talks
Speaker 2: about the nephylima, sometimes the land that eats itself, or
Speaker 2: sometimes the cannibalistic practices. Many Native American tribes report that
Speaker 2: these ogres, the large ones, the tall ones, were eating
Speaker 2: other humans. It's a very consistent theme we see in
Speaker 2: Native American legends. And this Lenny Lenape guy says, the
Speaker 2: cannibals began to grow until they became vicious giants. It
Speaker 2: is these giants who are buried in the Indian mounds.
Speaker 2: Fortunately the giants finally died out. Freddie Washington, what a
Speaker 2: nice succinct story confirming this, and he doesn't even mention
Speaker 2: the wallamollum. But we've got the Nephalem associated events and
Speaker 2: creatures described as a snake people, the Macaweeni, and the Wallamulum.
Speaker 2: Moving on here. You know, we talked about this a
Speaker 2: little bit before the show. This is a wake up
Speaker 2: pill that many Christians have not taken yet. But if
Speaker 2: you just take the Bible itself. Look, i am a
Speaker 2: sola scriptorra Christian. I'm not into crazy stuff. I'm not
Speaker 2: into crazy conspiracy. I'm not in I don't wear ten hats.
Speaker 2: If you just take the Bible at face value, and
Speaker 2: you disregard all the other books to talk about giants,
Speaker 2: Josh er Enoch, all that other stuff, all the extra biblical books,
Speaker 2: just focus on the Bible itself. You've got twenty passages
Speaker 2: of scripture alone that talk about the Rafayen, the Onaquem,
Speaker 2: Goliath and all his brothers, the Nephylum. It's quite obvious
Speaker 2: that something was going on. You've got a picture of
Speaker 2: King Aug's bed here, fourteen feet long. Goliath was nine
Speaker 2: feet nine inches. The giant was a phenomenon in just
Speaker 2: scripture alone. And then we go around in Israel and
Speaker 2: find things like this in nineteen sixty two, this guy's
Speaker 2: out tilling his field in Israel and uncovers a twenty
Speaker 2: six inch spearhead. You can go see the museums today.
Speaker 2: It weighed only one third the weight of Goliaths Goliath, says.
Speaker 2: The Bible says his armor weighed one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: five pounds. His spearhead was fifteen pounds and some ounces,
Speaker 2: and the shaft was a diameter of a weaver's beam,
Speaker 2: about the size of a man's wrist. And this spearhead
Speaker 2: that he found that she's got battle scars on. It
Speaker 2: was found next to hundreds of copper scales that would
Speaker 2: have been woven together in a goliath like halbert or
Speaker 2: coat of coat of arms, or like a big shield
Speaker 2: breastplate that he would have worn. So but this spear
Speaker 2: was only four and a half pounds, still very unwieldable
Speaker 2: by your normal human today. And here we've got the
Speaker 2: story in Second Samuel that talks about this guy ish
Speaker 2: Banab was also a giant, had a spirit that weighed
Speaker 2: three hundred shekels, which was much lighter than Golias. It
Speaker 2: was only about half the weight of Golias, but still
Speaker 2: seven point three pounds reported in the Bible, Golias is
Speaker 2: fifteen pounds here we have a four and a half
Speaker 2: pound spearhead. And we even get to things like Abraham
Speaker 2: Lincoln himself, who says, the eyes of that species of
Speaker 2: extinct giants whose bones filled the mounds of America have
Speaker 2: gazed on Niagara as ours do now. So he wrote
Speaker 2: this in his diary while looking at Niagara Falls. Into
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln and the og guys that he was spending
Speaker 2: time with the people who were archaeologists and professors of
Speaker 2: the then burgeoning institutions of America, it was common knowledge
Speaker 2: that what they were finding in these mounds was not
Speaker 2: of plain human origin. They're finding copper and metallurgy and
Speaker 2: human sacrifice stuff, and these big copper axes and skeletons
Speaker 2: that are averaging seven to nine feet tall. Abraham Lincoln's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're giants and they're extinct. Very interesting that he would
Speaker 2: say that, sod that in eighteen forty eight we covered this.
Speaker 2: We've got all these different The whole Ohio val Valley
Speaker 2: here is peppered with all these giant mounds that let
Speaker 2: In Lenape says, these giant mounds were built by by
Speaker 2: the giants. Here we have the map that we talked
Speaker 2: about before, you guys. Again, it's just like the flood
Speaker 2: with Native Americans. If it was just twelve Native American
Speaker 2: tribes and twelve accounts that talked about the flood, I
Speaker 2: dismiss it. It's a wacky theory, right, But it's three
Speaker 2: hundred different accounts from Native Americans and the giants come on.
Speaker 2: There's three thousand reported giant skeletons by ninety four people
Speaker 2: in eight hundred and eighty five accounts. And so don't
Speaker 2: tell me there's not something going on in the eighteen
Speaker 2: hundreds and nineteen hundreds when all these accounts are coming
Speaker 2: out and.
Speaker 4: The four spearhead you talked about, Yeah, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 4: that spearhead you talked about, I'll throw it up in
Speaker 4: the b ro in the editing. But Joseph, Chief, Joseph
Speaker 4: up there in the Ohio Valley, up next to Michigan,
Speaker 4: next to the Ale Roisle where that big copper mine is,
Speaker 4: he found a huge bronze spear and it's just a spearhead,
Speaker 4: and it's I don't know how many inches it is,
Speaker 4: but if it's ever bit of two and a half
Speaker 4: to three foot, and that thing weighs probably ten to
Speaker 4: twelve pounds. Ever, bit, it is huge.
Speaker 2: It is incredible, and in fact it looks just like
Speaker 2: this one on the far right. That one's out of flint,
Speaker 2: I believe. But that was found in the mounds. This
Speaker 2: thirty eight pound copper axe was found in the mound,
Speaker 2: and the one and the other guys am was the
Speaker 2: center guy's other hand is twenty seven pounds. And then
Speaker 2: we have these huge stone axes that are found all
Speaker 2: over the place. So yeah, people were not building these implements.
Speaker 2: And the secularist is just like, oh, well, that's just ceremonial. Well,
Speaker 2: I I'm not sure about that. You know how long
Speaker 2: it would take to make a thirty eight pounds ceremonial axe.
Speaker 2: And in some places, when they found these copper implements
Speaker 2: buried in graves, they learned that they were and they
Speaker 2: were found them like beneath giant skeletons. The copper axes
Speaker 2: are more aged and antiqued and patina then the copper
Speaker 2: implements that were buried with their burial, So obviously they
Speaker 2: were keeping these implements from previous generations. Very interesting looking
Speaker 2: at this. So but look at this, you guys again,
Speaker 2: it's not some it's not like just the Choctaw had
Speaker 2: one little random story about the giants. These giant myths
Speaker 2: and legends are echoed all over the place. This is
Speaker 2: just an example. I think it's actually twenty six tribes
Speaker 2: that have giant histories to them. So it's all over
Speaker 2: the place, and we've got implements like like this, And
Speaker 2: it's not just the fact that they were tall people.
Speaker 2: We've learned that these earthworks that they were building not
Speaker 2: only had shapes and dimensions that were based upon what
Speaker 2: they call like the Hope Well Acre, the Hopebol dimensions
Speaker 2: that were very very specific that required very advanced measuring
Speaker 2: and distance tools that we would say that the Native
Speaker 2: Americans did not have when the Europeans arrived in the
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundreds. It's almost like technology went
Speaker 2: backwards when you go back on the history, which is
Speaker 2: a good tell that they were getting nephilim associated information
Speaker 2: and technology back then. But whoever built and design these
Speaker 2: earthworks in Ohio, there's four hundred and ninety eight earthworks
Speaker 2: in just one state, four hundred and ninety eight, and
Speaker 2: a number of these, not all of them, but dozens
Speaker 2: of them do have planetary alignments. Whoever built these things
Speaker 2: were able to read the sun, moon and stars, the orbits,
Speaker 2: all that stuff with technology. That the Native Americans that
Speaker 2: the Europeans encountered in the seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds
Speaker 2: were not using those types of technologies has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with some evolutionary timeline. It's just the fact that
Speaker 2: the nomads and the Native Americans who were cruising around
Speaker 2: North America and when the Europeans arrived and they documented
Speaker 2: the then present history, were not into building these types
Speaker 2: of structures. And when the Native Americans were interviewed about
Speaker 2: these structures, he repeatedly said they were built by the
Speaker 2: giants who were here before us. Fascinating, fascinating history.
Speaker 4: New York site. Zimmerman just discovered recently that the hinge
Speaker 4: of that site lines up perfectly to the sunrise on
Speaker 4: Bail Tang.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: I mean that, I mean that's Nephelee mcright there. The
Speaker 4: worship of Bail.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the history of what happened to North America
Speaker 2: has got some some dark hit history to it. So
Speaker 2: this guy, Doug van dorn I watched a presentation that
Speaker 2: he did. He was able to find not only just
Speaker 2: the study the Serpent Mountain in Ohio, which is over
Speaker 2: a mile long, and it also lines up with the sun, moon,
Speaker 2: and stars. He found five others just like it worldwide.
Speaker 2: And why are people obsessed with serpents? Where would they
Speaker 2: get that idea from? You know? Why? Why are they
Speaker 2: doing that? Why are they into worshiping them? And a
Speaker 2: number of them had pedestals and altars in front of
Speaker 2: them for sacrificial practices. So who's driving these people to
Speaker 2: make big serpent snake replicas and kill people.
Speaker 4: Of the power of the air?
Speaker 2: You got it? It's amazing. And Van Dorn found five
Speaker 2: other types of serpent effigies all over the world. And
Speaker 2: when you look at some of the mound builders and
Speaker 2: you look at their quote ceremonial axes that were thirty
Speaker 2: seven pounds or thirty eight pounds or twenty seven pounds,
Speaker 2: and the fact that they're wearing horns on their head,
Speaker 2: and they've got all these signs and symbols, a number
Speaker 2: of which look to be carried over by the Illuminati
Speaker 2: type of groups today. They seem to be significant to
Speaker 2: other pagan dark practices today. Why were they so into
Speaker 2: this stuff? Working with copper metallurgy and one of the
Speaker 2: sites they found over one hundred sacrificially killed young ladies
Speaker 2: like eighteen to twenty five year old who were all
Speaker 2: ceremonially killed. This is not the Native Americans that the
Speaker 2: Europeans encountered when they came here in the sixteen hundreds
Speaker 2: and seventeen hundreds. They weren't doing this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: The mound builders were. Some of the mound builders were,
Speaker 2: especially the old ones. And you go back and you
Speaker 2: find that's where the seventy nine footers came from. And
Speaker 2: they were in to serpents. They had an obsession with
Speaker 2: serpents and worshiping the sun, moon and stars, which I
Speaker 2: can't tell you how many times in the Old Testament
Speaker 2: God said no, no, no, don't you dare worship the sun,
Speaker 2: moon and stars. That's forbidden. And here we have this
Speaker 2: group obsessed with it. Then we've got things like this.
Speaker 2: This is the Bureau of Anology. They call them the
Speaker 2: stone people or the stone Cannibals. These are are written
Speaker 2: and colored and illustrated by the Native Americans who are
Speaker 2: carrying these traditions and saying things that are specific enough
Speaker 2: this saying, yeah, the giant dants were cannibals, and the
Speaker 2: only way we could kill them is by shooting them
Speaker 2: in the face with bows and arrows. That's just one example.
Speaker 2: You know, we've got the Lovelock Caves where they're finding
Speaker 2: these mortar and pestles that really outweighed what normal people
Speaker 2: could do this. This secular curator of this museum in
Speaker 2: Nevada says that this had to be wielded by a
Speaker 2: giant because it's huge. I forget how heavy this pestle is,
Speaker 2: but it's gigantic. Then we've got other stories by this
Speaker 2: one recorded by a historic historian named Kusick, who's talking
Speaker 2: about this Native American myth and legend that was carried
Speaker 2: on and on and on. This giant would go and
Speaker 2: put a bear in a deer in his belt and
Speaker 2: walk around with these things. Why are the repeating stories
Speaker 2: like these giants? Why is it in the wall, mom?
Speaker 2: And why is it in the Bible over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. In fact, the Bible giant wars that
Speaker 2: happened around the time of David were about a thousand BC,
Speaker 2: and prior then Native American stories overlap right on top
Speaker 2: of that whatever giant phenomenon. What's going on in North
Speaker 2: America could have also been happening at the same time
Speaker 2: in Israel. There's a couple more things here, and then
Speaker 2: we'll wrap up and maybe take some Q and ages
Speaker 2: a couple more slides. The other thing is, of course,
Speaker 2: just go look at the maps of South America, Peru,
Speaker 2: South America, these areas and Virginia. When people were getting here,
Speaker 2: why are they saying that these giant Native Americans? In
Speaker 2: some cases Captain Smith is saying, yeah, their calves were
Speaker 2: twenty seven inches around and you know, seven eight nine
Speaker 2: feet tall, and they're drawing these pictures of them and saying,
Speaker 2: gigantis people. You know, they're writing down all these giants,
Speaker 2: and these these map after map after map shows these
Speaker 2: giant Native Americans. I hear some from Captain Smith, and
Speaker 2: then of course, well what about the physical evidence? So
Speaker 2: I think it's quite obvious. La Marzouli went to Catalina
Speaker 2: and initially found this picture that's on the right side
Speaker 2: of your screen in a state publicly funded museum on
Speaker 2: Catalina Island, which is right off the shore of southern California.
Speaker 2: And he sewed in this museum that they only had
Speaker 2: the top half of this picture shown here where this
Speaker 2: is Ralph Glyddon. I believe it's the nineteen thirties. All
Speaker 2: they showed, but they used to show was just the
Speaker 2: top half of this picture. Interestingly, now they took the
Speaker 2: whole exhibit out. It's no longer in the museum. I've
Speaker 2: got pictures of it. It's always originally there. But when
Speaker 2: Marzouli found it, they only had the top half of
Speaker 2: this picture. But he had found in the museum archives
Speaker 2: a complete picture which shows Ralph Glyndon standing in front
Speaker 2: of a nine foot skeleton. You can see as I'm
Speaker 2: talking about the picture that's in the right half of
Speaker 2: the screen. If you look in the top left of
Speaker 2: that picture, you can see a human skull. Compare the
Speaker 2: size of that human skull to the one that's in
Speaker 2: the foreground, and it can't be more than what maybe
Speaker 2: ten feet in front of it. It's got to be
Speaker 2: about double the size. They know how tall Ralph Clinton was.
Speaker 2: He hired three independent forensic photograph experts to measure this
Speaker 2: skeleton and the estimates came in between eight and a
Speaker 2: half feet tall and nine feet tall. So here we've
Speaker 2: got a picture of Ralph glibbn Glynn digging up giant
Speaker 2: skeletons on Katalina Island, and the sequence of events is
Speaker 2: the museum displayed only the top half initially. Then Elie
Speaker 2: mar zu Leige called him out and said, you guys
Speaker 2: are misrepresenting what's going on here. Show the whole picture.
Speaker 2: So they did show the whole picture for years, and
Speaker 2: now recently they just removed the whole thing, expecting the
Speaker 2: whole thing deal to be forgotten. But then we've got,
Speaker 2: you know, other pictures of these giants skeletons and Ohio
Speaker 2: clearly over seven feet seven and a half feet tall.
Speaker 4: At bottom left one. I have a copy of that
Speaker 4: one that's from the Serpent Mound. That one was seven
Speaker 4: feet at the knees and when they dug it up,
Speaker 4: the feet and hands were missing. And so I pose
Speaker 4: the question, did it have six fingers and six toes?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I don't see the hands there. But Ralph
Speaker 2: Glindon's pictures, the one that that Marzulli found, He's got
Speaker 2: documented pictures from Glitden skeletons that he found with six
Speaker 2: fingers on hands. Incredible, So let's see. And of course
Speaker 2: they've got places like Monks Mound in Kahoki how many
Speaker 2: people didn't even know this. But these mound builders were
Speaker 2: building pyramids that were the size of the Pyramid of Giza,
Speaker 2: larger at its base than the Pyramid of Giza. And
Speaker 2: a number of these things were built in coordination with
Speaker 2: the sun, moon and stars and equinoxes and solstices, and
Speaker 2: in some places they found you know, all kinds of
Speaker 2: sacri feist bodies and everything. So so this this led
Speaker 2: these legends about the snake people that they were so
Speaker 2: afraid of and called cannibals. By their recent line of
Speaker 2: Lenape history, they've just ditched this stuff. But the wollem
Speaker 2: Olam had it right. They recorded the giants, and they
Speaker 2: framed in a way that is very overlapping to what
Speaker 2: the how the Bible would would regard giants. So that
Speaker 2: is the last slide that I have today. I'll stop
Speaker 2: sharing my screen, but would love to talk about this
Speaker 2: some more. I know I just give a didactic rundown
Speaker 2: of everything, but would love to hear what you think
Speaker 2: and go from there.
Speaker 4: Oh no, shoot, I just loved hearing about the stories
Speaker 4: and stuff because me and my audience, man, we've we've
Speaker 4: went down a lot of those trails that you kind
Speaker 4: of touched on. I've talked with the la several times
Speaker 4: and he's give us the story about them pictures and
Speaker 4: talked about that stuff. I've talked with another guy named
Speaker 4: Charles and he went through all the histories of I
Speaker 4: can't remember the name of it now, but it was
Speaker 4: all these different books of the Native American stories and
Speaker 4: he deep dived with us on shoot Alla gaywee. Oh, Yes,
Speaker 4: how they were a giant.
Speaker 2: They absolutely were. In fact, that word even means giant
Speaker 2: when you start appeeling the onion layer back. There was
Speaker 2: a famous kernel, I think he was a historian that
Speaker 2: talked about those people and very much said that they
Speaker 2: were giants. And you've you've got the Native American traditions
Speaker 2: that are carried and echoed for centuries verbally. But then
Speaker 2: when the Europeans arrived in the sixteen hundred and seventy hundreds,
Speaker 2: the Jesuits explores all this stuff. They began recording in
Speaker 2: fortune writing what these Native Americans were saying. And it's
Speaker 2: amazing because I think the most honoring thing we can
Speaker 2: do for the Native Americans is represent their stories as
Speaker 2: recorded as historically recorded. And I had to dig a
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff up from books you will not
Speaker 2: find in libraries. But the Smithsonian themselves are documenting a
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff. So and they're not we know
Speaker 2: these books existed, you know, I've got the eighteen ninety
Speaker 2: Smithsonian book where you know, the Smithsonian itself nowadays says
Speaker 2: their formal position is that zero giants have ever been
Speaker 2: recorded or talked about by anybody in North America. That's
Speaker 2: their official position. And then I can go back with
Speaker 2: Smithsonian documents I have in my possession published by the
Speaker 2: Smithsonian that we report being sent or discovering seventeen Native
Speaker 2: American or seventeen giant skeletons uncovered in Native American burials,
Speaker 2: seventeen of them between seven and nine feet tall. So
Speaker 2: which is it? Yeah, you know, so it's but you
Speaker 2: know all this does for me as as a as
Speaker 2: a Christian is it just confirms the Bible?
Speaker 4: Yes, solidifies my faith.
Speaker 2: And a number of Christians are not ready to take
Speaker 2: is it the red pillar or the blue pill? I
Speaker 2: think it's the red pill, right, the one that wakes
Speaker 2: you up up, and many people are not ready for
Speaker 2: it or or or or don't believe it or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't just Goliath and Goliaths brothers were tribes
Speaker 2: of the of the Anachem, and they were likely tall
Speaker 2: giants as well. And you've got the rafae Eem and
Speaker 2: the Hebrew His historians back then they knew what this
Speaker 2: giant thing was, and then they recorded it in a
Speaker 2: lot of extra biblical books as well, and it was normal.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is, like a lot of people,
Speaker 4: like when I was growing up, they struck up Goliath.
Speaker 4: Was like, oh, you know, you guys watch basketball. You
Speaker 4: know who s Sheequille O'Neil is. He was like Shaquille
Speaker 4: O'Neil And yeah he might have been, you know, but
Speaker 4: we see these guys on TV and were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's that's normal. That's not normal. Uh yeah, seven foot
Speaker 4: seven foot seven and a half to eight foot tall people,
Speaker 4: just because you see him on TV, that's not normal.
Speaker 4: That's less than two percent of the population. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm not saying these NBA players
Speaker 4: in aflom, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the Europeans were in the mid five feet,
Speaker 2: lower lower five feet, and the Native Americans were not
Speaker 2: over six feet traditionally. So and you look at Shaquille
Speaker 2: O'Neil okay three hundred and forty three fifty pounds, seven
Speaker 2: foot three. And then I hired a guy who's six
Speaker 2: and a half feet tall and played D one basketball
Speaker 2: or D one football to wield a Goliath spear replica.
Speaker 2: And if he was coming after me, he wouldn't put
Speaker 2: a scratch on me because I'd see it coming. It
Speaker 2: moves like a snail. You know, it's too heavy. You
Speaker 2: have fifteen pounds spearhead that's gonna be over two feet long,
Speaker 2: and the it's the diameter of a weaver's beam. And
Speaker 2: Goliath was nine feet nine inches. That's two and a
Speaker 2: half feet taller than Shaquille O'Neal. And typically people are
Speaker 2: you know, the width to height ratio is two to one.
Speaker 2: So if Goliath was nine feet nine inches at if
Speaker 2: shaq was seven it or is seven to three, and
Speaker 2: it's in the three hundreds, what would Goliath be at
Speaker 2: nine feet nine inches, Well, our calculations show about four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds at least. Well, think about it.
Speaker 2: He was he was wearing a coat of mail that
Speaker 2: was one hundred and twenty five pounds, and he had
Speaker 2: a bronze helmet on and then he had a spear.
Speaker 2: Then just the head of it weighed fifteen pounds. So
Speaker 2: we're not talking about a human here, we're talking about
Speaker 2: a nephelum. He was a you know, half breed, highbred.
Speaker 2: It's very very clear that the Sons of God were
Speaker 2: that was their origin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was a normal thing. And that's why
Speaker 4: in the Bible they just kind of touch on it
Speaker 4: and go. They don't really focus on it because it
Speaker 4: was a normal thing. They've seen it everywhere. Like you said,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not just the Native Americans, it's in
Speaker 4: the Bible, it's the Spanish explorers. I spoke with a woman.
Speaker 4: She was from Aruba, and she found a lot of
Speaker 4: Amerigo Vespucci's journal writings and stuff from down there, and
Speaker 4: he said that when he first came to Aruba that
Speaker 4: he was met on the beach by a group of
Speaker 4: women and said that on their knees they were head
Speaker 4: and shoulders taller than the men.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Yeah, it's it's everywhere. In fact, you could
Speaker 2: just take all the Native American tribal stories that chapter
Speaker 2: and just look at what the sailors and explorers found
Speaker 2: in South America. I mean, I look at at Peru
Speaker 2: and all those different places. I mean even some of
Speaker 2: the names of the countries even mean big Feet Patagonia,
Speaker 2: you know, that was derived from them, from the word
Speaker 2: big feet, you know. And there's all kinds of spiritual
Speaker 2: things that were going on back then too about how
Speaker 2: they were associated with the giants. So it's uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: most every culture has got some history that can be
Speaker 2: traced back to the giants like this. But the Native Americans,
Speaker 2: like I said, it's over twenty tribes have caught this story,
Speaker 2: and it's in the len Lenape history, and it's in
Speaker 2: the Wallamolem as well. It's it's everywhere for those of
Speaker 2: us who want to drill into it. The Bible only,
Speaker 2: you know, only confirms the Bible's history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm of the belief that even America, and
Speaker 4: you get into the etymology of that, there's two ways
Speaker 4: you can go about it. I mean, some people say, oh,
Speaker 4: it's named after Amerigo Vespucci, and then another etymological path
Speaker 4: you could go down is the amaru the Serpent, the
Speaker 4: land of the Serpent.
Speaker 2: Wow, I've never learned that. I don't know the history
Speaker 2: of the name, but very very interesting. But yeah, the
Speaker 2: South Americans, the maps and everything. We tried to represent
Speaker 2: a number of the maps that have giants on them
Speaker 2: in our Out of Babble movie. I think we managed
Speaker 2: to get three or four in the final cut, but
Speaker 2: there's at least a half a dozen fifteen hundreds, fourteen hundred,
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred maps that talk about Land of the Giants.
Speaker 2: Watch out, don't go over here, you know, So it's
Speaker 2: very prevalent.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, man, Well, Dan, I appreciate you coming on
Speaker 4: and spending your time with us and in lighting us all.
Speaker 4: This was very fascinating. And like I said, I had
Speaker 4: a thirty thousand foot view, so you took me on
Speaker 4: the maiden voyage and blew my mind. And I'm sure
Speaker 4: you blew the a lot of my listeners' mind. So
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's great. And look, we're not here to sell anything.
Speaker 2: Most of our stuff is free and downloadable. But the
Speaker 2: Wallamullum book is like what ten bucks, eleven bucks, something
Speaker 2: like that. You can buy it on Amazon. If we've
Speaker 2: got some skeptics online today, I challenge people read that book.
Speaker 2: It's not I just covered the tips of the trees.
Speaker 2: There's so much evidence supporting this as real history and
Speaker 2: we've put a lot of in that book or where
Speaker 2: you can watch the video. I think the video is
Speaker 2: about twenty minutes long and it's got tons of very
Speaker 2: credible goosebump level evidence is that this is a real
Speaker 2: artifact from the Native Americans.
Speaker 4: Nice, before we go, let everybody know the website and
Speaker 4: like the YouTube channel where they can find this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, our ministry name is just Genesis Apollogetics, and
Speaker 2: the Wallamollum website is just wallem Ollam walamol Um wallumolam
Speaker 2: dot com and you can go there and you can
Speaker 2: see where to buy the book and watch the video
Speaker 2: for for free. Nice.
Speaker 4: Well, guys, be sure to check out his stuff and
Speaker 4: take a deep dive. Like he said, he just scratched
Speaker 4: the service and kind of give you guys the highlight version.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of meat to be had, so dive
Speaker 4: in and gets you forks and your knives out and
Speaker 4: dive in, guys. How until next time, porches, Hi, guys,