WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.040 Golf Smarter number four hundred and forty three, originally published 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:06.080 on July first, twenty fourteen. 3 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:11.400 Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 4 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:15.039 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:21.079 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction never gets old. Our 6 00:00:21.160 --> 00:00:25.960 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:29.600 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:31.760 It's not just the clubhead to me, it's their hands. 9 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:34.479 Very often when they're swinging, their hands are stopping at 10 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.200 the ball, and that snaps that clubhead ahead. You'll hit 11 00:00:37.240 --> 00:00:39.079 behind the ball, that you can hook the ball. There's 12 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:41.399 many unfortunate things that can happen on your handstop. So 13 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.479 I want somebody to take their hands as they're hitting 14 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:45.600 the ball and to swing their hands out to the 15 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:48.359 target so that ensures that their hands stay forward. We 16 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:50.200 don't want to hit at the ball, like you said, 17 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:51.799 you want to hit through the ball. So you try 18 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.039 to think of either hitting through the ball swinging your 19 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.039 hands to the target. I like to have people pick 20 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:58.439 a spot beyond the ball, maybe an inch or two beyond, 21 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.479 and try to hit the ground or see their club 22 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:02.880 go through the grass beyond the ball. It can help 23 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:06.480 a tremendous amount in short game and long to actually 24 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:09.439 see your club go through the grass pass the ball. 25 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.079 And I've also used this opposite effect. 26 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:13.760 People want to get the ball in the air, so 27 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:15.760 what they do is they try to flip their hands, 28 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.959 they stay behind the ball, they fall away. I've told people, 29 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.280 I want you to hit this ball as low as possible, 30 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:23.920 drill it five feet off the ground, and they've made 31 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:27.359 perfect golf shots that go exactly the height they're supposed to, 32 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:30.159 and they hit them crisply. When somebody tries to hit 33 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.560 the ball low, they instinctively know, Okay, I've got to 34 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:35.560 del off the club. I got to get my hands 35 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:37.680 forward and try to hit this ball low and get 36 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:38.560 my way to the left. 37 00:01:38.799 --> 00:01:45.439 That's how you hit a golf ball. 38 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:47.840 How to take your a game from the range to 39 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:49.920 the course With Ken Doherty. 40 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.560 This is Golf Smarter. 41 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.799 Welcome back to the Golf Smarter podcast. Ken. Thank you, 42 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:58.239 it's great to have you back on the show. It's 43 00:01:58.239 --> 00:02:00.000 great to have you back on the studio. I appreciate 44 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:03.840 also let people know you and I recently did a 45 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:08.039 video together that's on the golf Smarter YouTube page golf 46 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:11.520 Smarter TV. And even though we did it for Marine 47 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:15.280 Country Club, I think everybody should be aware of this 48 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:19.159 because we did it on course care and little things 49 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:22.680 that you should know, and most importantly to me, how 50 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:24.000 to clean up your divots on the green. 51 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:28.560 Yeah, what we did applies to every golf course, every 52 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:29.439 single golf course. 53 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:33.840 Absolutely. I mean I now since I feel like, okay, 54 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:36.000 this is how you put a rake back in the bunker. 55 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.680 You know, some people just throw them there, they're in 56 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.840 the bunker, they're sitting on the side. No, we put 57 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.159 it down with the handle sticking out. 58 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.639 Well, there are different rules when it comes to that 59 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.080 for different clubs. Some like them in, some like them out. 60 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.639 So some like the head in with a handle out. 61 00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:53.039 That's how we do it, but there are different rules 62 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.759 for there. But as far as fixing a ball mark 63 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:00.000 and raking the bunker and things like that, they're pretty standard. 64 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:02.680 And I still go back to my number one rule 65 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:05.639 that everyone should be following, which is spend more time 66 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:08.400 cleaning up divots on the green than looking for lost balls. 67 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:15.520 Yeah if only, Yeah, okay, I guess so. 68 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.479 But today I wanted to talk about taking your a game. 69 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:23.199 How do we take our a game from the driving 70 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:26.360 range to the golf course? And you and I were 71 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.120 having a conversation about this once and you mentioned that 72 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:33.840 it's a very different type of golf on the range 73 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:37.039 because of the balls, your mindset, things like that, and 74 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.719 I thought it was worth pursuing because there's some tidbits 75 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:41.199 in there that someone's gonna be able to walk away 76 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.439 with going, Okay, I'm going to be a better player 77 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:44.039 because of that. 78 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:45.000 Yeah. 79 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.599 I don't even know where to begin. I mean, there's 80 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:48.919 so many variables when it comes to all right, let 81 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:52.240 me let me throw one out on the range. The balls, yeah, 82 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.120 well let's start with that. In most cases, they're very different. 83 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:56.960 They're not the quality of the golf ball you use 84 00:03:57.000 --> 00:04:00.280 on the on the golf course. In fact, we took 85 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.400 our yardage markers away because we have limited flight golf 86 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.800 ballsk because we have a little shorter range, and we 87 00:04:07.879 --> 00:04:10.520 don't feel that are if they hit range ball, If 88 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.240 they hit a range ball one hundred and fifty yards, 89 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:15.840 a good golf ball or one that you take to 90 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:17.800 the golf course will go further. So it's really not 91 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.000 a good indication of how far they're hitting the golf ball. 92 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:23.040 So I don't want I don't want that, for lack 93 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.600 of a better phrase, that false advertisement. I don't want 94 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.000 them thinking they're hitting at one hundred and fifty yards. 95 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.160 They go to the golf course, take that eight iron 96 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.240 or seven iron, and now they're hitting at one hundred 97 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.240 and sixty hundred and sixty five yards, don't I don't 98 00:04:37.240 --> 00:04:39.000 think the range should be used for yardage anyways. I 99 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.319 think that should be used for hitting the ball straight 100 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.560 and working the ball and working some of those kinks. 101 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:48.279 Out well, I would tend to I don't know if 102 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.759 I'm gonna disagree with you on this, but where are 103 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.079 you going to learn how far you hit each club? 104 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:56.839 It's really hard to do on the golf course because 105 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.240 you need to know. It's one of the things that 106 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:01.879 I'm having with my right now is like he's really 107 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.839 complaining he's not very good, and I said, well, learn 108 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.680 how far you hit each club? You don't know. You're 109 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.120 asking me if I had a five iron here. I 110 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.040 don't know how far do you hit a five iron? 111 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:11.319 You know? 112 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:13.279 Yeah, I think you can do some of that on 113 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:17.920 the range, but to be exact and know exactly how 114 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.759 you hit it. I will tell somebody to go out 115 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.319 in the late evening when nobody's around, and if you're 116 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:25.279 not quite sure how far your clubs go, or how 117 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.759 far your seven iron goes, or whatever the club you're 118 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.600 you're looking to find out, take three or four golf 119 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:34.040 balls from certain distances and hit them to the green 120 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:37.480 using you know, your GPS or whatever device you have 121 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:39.439 to see how far. And then you'll know for sure 122 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.680 because it's on the golf course, it's actual yardage, it's 123 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:43.959 the real ball, and so on. 124 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:45.959 That's fine for country clubs. 125 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:48.199 Yeah, you're right, you're right. It's not an easy task. 126 00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:49.000 You're right. 127 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:53.040 No, So is there a way? Well, should we basically 128 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:57.199 assume that every course is using low compression golf balls 129 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.639 on the range? Not necessarily, So how do we find 130 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:02.720 so we need to find that out before we even 131 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:03.800 start hitting balls from them. 132 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.839 Well, it's not just low compression. I don't think a 133 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.879 lot of people use the the limited flight golf. 134 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:10.399 Balls as we do. 135 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:12.480 Yeah, I meant limited flight. 136 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:18.079 But there's also range ball differences from from your average 137 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:22.279 golf balls. Some some country clubs use brand new titleists 138 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:24.959 or brand new callaways for their range balls. They might 139 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.240 have a stripe around them, but they're actual golf balls. 140 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:31.279 To me, that's realistic. But how many of those practice 141 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.639 on the Yeah, if they say practice, you know they're 142 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.680 they're they're not the quality of a golf ball you're 143 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:37.759 gonna be playing on the golf course. 144 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:45.600 So how are we able to compute that? When we're like, Okay, good, 145 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:50.480 I'm hitting these limited range, limited flight balls. I'm hitting 146 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:53.000 at one hundred and fifty yards with my six iron. 147 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:56.120 How do I say, okay, So that means with my 148 00:06:56.279 --> 00:06:59.920 pro V one X, my pro V one, my Dixon 149 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:04.360 Earth Dixon wind ball, how much more is that gonna fly? 150 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:05.639 How do we figure that out? 151 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:07.959 How do we I don't think you can do it exactly. 152 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.120 And let's just say you've got a bucket of brand 153 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:14.279 new range balls. Well, then you can have some idea, 154 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.680 maybe calculate ten percent or whatever. 155 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:17.879 You're not going to get exact. 156 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.839 But the problem with with with most ranges is you've 157 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:24.600 got some old golf balls, you've got some new golf balls. 158 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:26.879 They're not going to fly the same. I've hit two 159 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:28.759 shots that I thought that were the same. One falls 160 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.240 out of the sky and the other one sails. That's 161 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.399 too inconsistent for me to to be concerned about how 162 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:35.360 far that ball's going. 163 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:36.439 Hmm. 164 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.160 It's a real tough one because that's the first place 165 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.000 in the uh in the golf course where you definitely 166 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.040 see a difference. Like I was hitting that one a 167 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.439 you know, like all day long, I can hit it, 168 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:51.720 so I know that for me, what I'll what I'll 169 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:56.680 tend to do is with a bucket that has mixed 170 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.600 balls of old and new, and you eats pretty obvious 171 00:07:59.639 --> 00:08:01.319 which they are a lot older and which ones are 172 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:02.959 a lot newer, just by the shining, because they don't 173 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:05.079 really clean them that well, just get the dirt off 174 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.319 of it. But if it's if it's a beat up ball, 175 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.680 I'll use that for my short game. I'll just use 176 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:12.879 that to work on my stroke for the pitching and 177 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.199 the chipping, which I do a lot of. Like I 178 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:19.399 have one driving range over here Indian Valley that it's 179 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:23.480 a line of mats, and what I do is just 180 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:24.839 hit over the mat. It's like, Okay, I want to 181 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.519 hit that mat. Now, I want to hit that because 182 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.079 there's no one else there. I want to hit the 183 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:29.680 third mat. Now, I want to hit the fourth mat, 184 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:31.319 you know, and see if I can get it to 185 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:34.000 bounce on each mat from thing to think. So I 186 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:34.799 take you a much. 187 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:37.720 Better way to practice, actually because you want to You 188 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.240 want to practice how far you hit the golf ball. 189 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.320 There's a lot of people that are they look at 190 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.159 the flag stick, and then there's others that are very 191 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:47.720 good at chipping and pitching and they pick at location 192 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.000 to land the ball. And picking a location to land 193 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.440 the ball and having a lamb. There is very important. 194 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:59.399 Target oriented golf. So let let's talk about that. Okay, Well, 195 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:03.879 I'm glad that I'm doing something right. The thing that's 196 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:05.240 hard to figure out then is how long is it 197 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.480 going to roll? You know, depending on But when we 198 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.600 talked to Dave Stockton a while ago, he said that 199 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:11.720 it's for him, it's all about is it a low 200 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:12.840 shot or is it a high shot? 201 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.120 And that's how I describe them as well. If I'm 202 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.000 teaching that, you know, people get confused with different shots 203 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:22.039 and chip pitch, whatever you call them. It's a high 204 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.240 ball or a low ball, and you know, the low 205 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:25.639 ball is the one you want to hit as much 206 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.080 as you can, and the green's going to tell you 207 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:29.840 or the surrounding area is going to tell you whether 208 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.039 you need to hit a high ball, and I think 209 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.679 you should be hitting the high ball only when forced. 210 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:34.919 Two. 211 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.639 You're a big proponent of keeping the ball on the 212 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:38.720 ground as long as possible. 213 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.320 Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, Not only do I believe people are 214 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:45.679 more consistent that way, but they eliminate disaster too. You 215 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:47.759 take a bigger swing and try to hit it up 216 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:49.440 in the air and you miss it slightly, and you 217 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:51.639 could hit it right over the green or put the 218 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.399 club in the ground and leave it right in front 219 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:55.240 of you, where if you try to hit it low 220 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:58.320 it's more of a short putting type of stroke, or 221 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:02.559 certainly below the waist, your inconsistency is much less, and 222 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.759 obviously you can almost eliminate the disastrous shot. 223 00:10:07.399 --> 00:10:12.759 Yeah, And I've definitely taken to that idea and really 224 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:14.679 worked on do I need to hit a high shot 225 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:17.200 or a low shot here? Okay, there's a you know, 226 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:19.759 there's a sprinkler head there if I just need to 227 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:21.159 get over that, all right, So I'm gonna have to 228 00:10:21.159 --> 00:10:22.559 go a little higher, obviously, but I just want to 229 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:24.519 get over it, or there's a bunker in the way, 230 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:28.399 or the pin is close to the side of the 231 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:30.639 green I'm on. Obviously, you don't want the ball to 232 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:32.120 roll a lot. You want to just kind of let 233 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:33.879 it land softly and stop. 234 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:37.399 There are some people that are one club chip pitchers 235 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.639 and they use just their sandwedge or whatever it is, and. 236 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.279 If they're good at it, God bless them. Good good. 237 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.120 But if you know, if you are struggling or you 238 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.879 occasionally miss one pretty badly, you probably shouldn't be using 239 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:50.799 that unless you're forced to. 240 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.080 Actually, there's a video that I put on our members 241 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:00.879 site from Tony Manzoni a great tip about keeping it 242 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.559 on the ground that when you're on the fringe or 243 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.639 just off the fringe on the green. He has this 244 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.879 tip and I've been using it and I cannot believe 245 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:10.600 how close I've been getting to the pin with these. 246 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.480 I take the eight iron and I use it like 247 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:15.120 a putter, but I stand it on the toe. 248 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.840 Yeah, toe down, absolutely, and just use. 249 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:18.399 A putting motion. 250 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:18.600 Now. 251 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:21.000 Absolutely, people are like, how'd you do that? It's like, 252 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.879 it's not that hard. And what's funny to watch when 253 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:29.159 I show people when I learned with this is putting 254 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:31.919 it on the toe. It makes them very uncomfortable. Yeah, 255 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:34.159 people do not like to do that. Yeah, my friends 256 00:11:34.159 --> 00:11:34.840 don't at least. 257 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:35.320 Yeah. 258 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.279 I saw somebody using that method thirty years ago and 259 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.200 he was very consistent with it. Now, it's not one 260 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.600 where you want to you're going to hit it a 261 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.919 long chip. I think that most of the time you're 262 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:49.879 going to use that method, you're fairly close because the 263 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:53.000 ball doesn't come off hot. It comes off kind of dead, 264 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:54.879 which is kind of nice. The ball doesn't get away 265 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:55.159 from you. 266 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:58.200 Yeah, and it feels like a putter roll. Yeah, once 267 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:00.320 it gets going. And I've never done it where the 268 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:02.320 ball was in the air. And when I say in 269 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:05.480 the air about six inches off the ground, I've never 270 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:06.679 done it where the ball is in the air from 271 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:08.200 more than four maybe. 272 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.240 Five feet exactly. 273 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:13.039 And I have a friend who likes to use his 274 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.120 hybrid to do that and just get over. 275 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.039 But that ball, that's perfect. When you're immediately around the green, 276 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:19.080 around that fringe area, right. 277 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.480 The ball explodes off the face of the hybrid. 278 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:22.440 Well, that's true. 279 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.399 I mean it's a very different stroke than a putting 280 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:28.879 stroke at that point because it just it goes really 281 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:32.480 fast and I'm really good at going in other directions. 282 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:35.879 So back to the driving range and the difference between. 283 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:37.840 All right, so we started with balls, so there's really 284 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:40.519 no way of knowing you know, what kind of balls 285 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:42.399 they use. You can ask, but you're really not going 286 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:44.799 to be able to send. So you're just saying, and 287 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.799 even the older balls in these buckets that have lost 288 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.679 a lot of the dimples that are worn out, are 289 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.320 you going to be able to tell if you you're 290 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:53.559 hitting the ball straight that day? 291 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.480 I mean, it's going to be less curvature with a 292 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.799 ball that doesn't have any dimples. So it's you know, 293 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.399 I a lot of times ago it depends on the 294 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:04.120 golf balls. But if they're not very good to me, 295 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:08.120 that's just stretching an exercise more than practice. 296 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:13.360 So work on your short game with those bat absolutely, yeah, okay, 297 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.039 all right, so just no way to know. So and 298 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.519 I'm surprised that you took away the yardage things. I would. 299 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:22.480 Well think about it. 300 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:25.279 If I've got range balls that are fifteen anywhere from 301 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:28.679 ten to fifteen percent less plus, we're hitting a little uphill. 302 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:29.440 Right, you're hitting up hills. 303 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:32.799 You've got somebody who normally hits a seven iron, and 304 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:34.480 I'll just throw a figure out there. One hundred and 305 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.440 forty five yards and now they're hitting it one hundred 306 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:40.480 and thirty five yards and coming to me wondering, you know, 307 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.480 or they're misjudging when they're going to the golf course 308 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.440 and vice versa. It's just it's not a good representation 309 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:49.440 of what they're actually doing. So I don't want to 310 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:53.960 give them any false advertisement and believe it or not. 311 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.679 I you know, out of five hundred golfers over there, 312 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:01.480 well more than that, five hundred memberships and eight or 313 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:04.720 nine hundred golfers, I had two people ask me about 314 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:05.679 where they were. 315 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:08.559 No one else, really, two people. 316 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.240 That's it really, So it's not that big of an issue. Now, 317 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.440 what is the issue that comes back to you? What 318 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.440 are the members come back to you with this? I'm 319 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.159 having an issue with the driving range. 320 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.759 Well, it's what we're going to talk about today. 321 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:28.240 Is I hit the ball great on the driving range, 322 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.159 but I can't take it to the golf course. 323 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.080 All right, Well, before we get there, how about the 324 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:34.919 difference between hitting off of mats versus hitting off of grass. 325 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.759 Mats are very forgiving, and again it's not a true 326 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.159 test of compression, and where you're hitting on the ground, 327 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:44.799 you can hit behind the ball on a mat and 328 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:45.919 get away with it right. 329 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.279 You can hit the ground first exactly and you're going 330 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.519 to get a good stroke off against Yeah. 331 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.799 Yeah again, I much prefer as most players probably prefer 332 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.159 to be off the grass because there's a true test 333 00:14:57.879 --> 00:14:59.200 versus the mats, that's for sure. 334 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:03.519 And some mats are very different. I mean, you guys 335 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:06.840 have really nice cushiony mats that I mean they don't 336 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:10.960 even the bottom of the bottom of your clubs don't 337 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:12.360 turn green on those. 338 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:13.879 Well yeah, yeah, And I'll tell you what, if you 339 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.200 want to give a lesson and have it be successful, 340 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:19.000 put them on the mats. 341 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.639 Oh that was it. We'll get to the lesson in 342 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:29.279 a minute, all right. So let's let's see how we 343 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.320 can take our a game from the course, from the 344 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:36.519 from the range to the course. How do we take 345 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.840 our a game when we just leaving the range going oh, 346 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:42.639 I feel great today, and then it just doesn't pan out. 347 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.960 Well. Most people that hit driving range balls don't have 348 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.759 a care in the world. They're free, they let it fly, 349 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.159 there's no penalty, there's no score. They've got a whole 350 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:57.320 bucket of golf balls to hit, and they swing freely, 351 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:01.519 and I mean mind. And when you go to the 352 00:16:01.559 --> 00:16:05.320 golf course, that's a very different scenario there. It's one ball, 353 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.159 one hole, one score, and so on. So we tend 354 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:11.720 to get a little bit tighter, we tend to steer 355 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:16.240 a little bit course. On the golf course. Our mind 356 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:20.399 is cluttered with information, mechanics and so on, and that 357 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:23.200 is not conducive to hitting a good golf ball or 358 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:28.120 playing good golf. You've got to be able to go 359 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:31.919 to the golf course and be free. I'm sure there's 360 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.600 some of you with either played a golf course that 361 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.799 is wide open and you can just swing for the fences, 362 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:40.919 and those are the days that you hit it really good. 363 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.000 And then there's a golf course that you play very 364 00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.960 tight and you don't swing the same. You try to 365 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:48.919 steer it or you get a little afraid to let 366 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:51.600 it go, and you won't hit it as good. And 367 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:53.039 you need to be able to go to that tight 368 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:55.919 golf course or that tight hole and be loose and 369 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.279 let it fly. And that's a tough thing to do. 370 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.359 Would you recommend if you feel that tension, if you 371 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.279 know well, you know the other thing at the driving 372 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.240 range is that you have multiple swings. I mean, you know, 373 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.640 it's like, Okay, I just took three swings and one 374 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:16.839 of them was worked. I'm ready to go. 375 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:17.200 Yeah. 376 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:19.039 Yeah, you know it's like get three in a row. 377 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:20.960 You don't get a second serve, do you know? 378 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.519 You know I'm a second swing all American is what 379 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:23.799 we will. 380 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.039 Well, you can go back, we can go right into 381 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:28.440 how many times do you take a second put or 382 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:31.759 second swing and you hit it very well. That's because 383 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.359 it doesn't mean anything, So you're relaxed and you let 384 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:36.839 it fly, and that should give you some information about 385 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:39.000 what you should do. On the first one, we do 386 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:43.359 get too tense and swing too tightly and steer it, 387 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.319 and we're much freer on the second one when it 388 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.599 doesn't matter. And I've told people it seems kind of strange, 389 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:51.400 but you don't play well because you care too much. 390 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:54.880 If you didn't care, you would play well better. 391 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:57.200 And it's is that, like people say, play like a 392 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:57.759 little kid. 393 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:02.200 Yeah. Absolutely. When you're young, you're fearless and you let 394 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.519 it fly. And when we're old, our mind moves a 395 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:07.960 lot more, and different experiences make us think differently as 396 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.480 we go on, and it makes a big difference. 397 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.519 Well, a couple of shows back Jim Waldron of Balance 398 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.480 Point Golf School, and I hate to be name dropping, 399 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:20.119 but this is my show, so I will. But Jim 400 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:25.079 talked about on putting and this was a huge one 401 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.559