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It is Wednesday's New Year's Eve and we got a
lot of bowl games to go over, so that's gonna
be the focus of the show. We are going to
talk a little NBA and college basketball to gets ready,
joined by Dan and Dan was always the under yesterday,
it was always it was Under.
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Speaker 3: I'm scrambling now, though, Andy, I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 2: Keep up the reputation that we have set for ourselves
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Speaker 2: Today man, First things first, Happy New Year everyone, if
you're celebrating the night, make sure you're being safe. We
have a hell of a show to send us into
the new year, the final show of twenty twenty five.
We'll not only have one guy who spells his name
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the program. Brian Power going to kick things off for us.
He has got an in depth breakdown for you on
Miami versus Ohio State the Cotton Bowl. He's also going
to take a look at Nick's versus Spurs, Drew Martin
joining the show.
Speaker 3: That's right relya Quest Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's the one we really want to know about Duke
seeing some steam on Duke against Arizona State. We'll figure
out what Drew Martin thinks about that one. He's gonna
break down the hardwood for us as well, Saint John's
versus Georgia, and then Brian Leonard rounding things out. He's
got your Citrus Bowl play Michigan versus Texas, and then
we're also going to take a look at the Orange
Bowl Oregon versus Texas Tech for tomorrow. That's what we
have going andy, including WTFNLFG. We're gonna go all around
the world. This is how we end the year here
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We'll cost you a nickel there, cheap California.
Speaker 3: All right, Brian, you've got you got the big one.
Speaker 1: You got Miami Ohio State, and then we're just gonna
casually give you Nixon spurs uh to of the hottest
teams in the NBA to talk about. Sure, bring us
to and oh on the on these plays, but we're
gonna start with the big win.
Speaker 3: We got Miami, we got Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Ohio State coming in at minus nine and have over
undered a putrid at forty one. But it makes sense
these Ohio State Buckeyes place some intense defense.
Speaker 6: What's your breakdown on the game tonight?
Speaker 5: A putrid forty one?
Speaker 4: You see right there the numbers on the screen, guys,
Ohio State minus nine and a half over under forty one.
It is interesting of the four court college football playoff
quarter final matchups, this game has both the highest spread
and the lowest total. I'll let you all know right
off the rip, I do not have a very strong
conviction on the side of this game. My power ratings
right in line with the market here. I got Ohio
State minus nine since a half point difference from the
current number not enough of an edge for me to bet,
So let's talk about this putrid total instead. Andy, you
can count me among those who believe that points are
likely to be at a premium tonight in Arlington, Texas.
I'll start with the obvious Ohio State you mentioned it
off the top outstanding defense, The Buckeys have held all
thirteen opponents this season guys to sixteen points or fewer.
That's why Miami's team total currently sitting around fourteen and
a half for this game. By the way, eight of
Ohio State's opponents have been held to nine points or
fewer this season, So do not expect Miami to have
a lot of success offensively in this game, which I
don't think is a bit of a stretch. You go
back to their first round win over Texas A and
m the Kings only put up two hundred and seventy
eight total yards and twelve first downs in that game,
did not score a touchdown. It was the game's only
touchdown until very late. Really, if you go back and
watch that game, and I'll just save you the time here,
the entire offensive game plan for Miami was just finding
creative ways for Malachai Tony to get involved, just you know,
whether it just be pitches or screens. I think the
Buckeys this defense is going to be ready for that, guys.
And also in that A and M game, I thought
Miami needed to feed running back Mark Fletcher more. But
here against this Ohio State defense, I don't think feeding
Fletcher more necessarily is a bit of a is going
to be that much of a game changer. I also
don't think quarterback Carson Beck, quite candidly, is very good
for Miami, so that's a problem.
Speaker 5: All that being.
Speaker 4: Said, I think there is still a path for Miami
to cover the number here, and that's because of its
own defense ferocious pass rush, seven sacks, nine tackles for
a loss In the win over A and M. They
did not allow a touchdown the entire game, and while
Reuben Bain junior gets most the headlines. Guys, I think
we all saw what a difference Keyante Scott is for
this Miami defense when he is on the field. I
think he's somebody who can really make a difference on
Sundays when he gets to the NFL. And if there
is one weakness of this Ohio State team right side
of the offensive line circle that the starting right guard
is out.
Speaker 5: Buckey's allowed six sacks.
Speaker 4: To Indiana the Big Ten Championship, So I don't expect
the big point total from them either. Ryan Day is
calling plays for Ohio State. Make sure you're aware of that.
Brian Hartline the OC he took the head coaching job
at South Florida. He's going to go back to simply
managing the wide receiver room, which he obviously did a
very excellent job of prior to this season. I know
it's a low total, Dan and Andy, but it's low
for a reason. If game script wise, if Miami's to
win or at least cover here, it's gonna because it's
a low scoring game. Right Conversely, Ohio State covering this
number probably means they didn't give up many points, so.
Speaker 5: Not a lot of So yeah, I caught me.
Speaker 4: Like I said, among those who think it's gonna be
a low scoring game, I think the best angle to
take though, and I know this is pretty popular. We
were talking before the show under in the first half.
Ohio State's number one in the country and points allowed
in the first half just three point nine points per
game allowed in the first half. Well, Miami right behind
them at number two, allowing just four point five points
per game in the first half. I had the first
half under when Miami faced A and m It does
not get much easier than that. It was zero zero
going into the break. You wish they could all be
that easy. We had Miami outright as well.
Speaker 5: Eight and two.
Speaker 4: Start to the bulls, oh by the way for yours
truly and one final point.
Speaker 5: I'll make both kickers kind of suck for these teams.
Speaker 4: We saw the kicker for Miami go one for four,
Carter Davis against an m and then Jaden fielding for
Ohio State. I think we all remember it was a
little bit of goal, but as soon as I bring
it up, will all go ah, Yes, I remember that
he missed the chip shot in the Big Ten Championship.
So my official lead here. First half under twenty and
a half. I mentioned I'm eating two in the Bulls
guys twenty three and ten with all college football since
November first. We do have a five percent play on
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Speaker 3: Brian.
Speaker 1: How much do you put into account that the Big
Ten Championship game against IU I put zero into it.
My thought going into that game was I thought both
teams got bigger fish to fry, especially Ohio State. I
don't think they're going to show that much. It meant
more to Indiana than it did to Ohio State. Do
you put any stock into that game? Do you think
there's any takeaways that affect the point spread total on
this game?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're alluding to the fact that Ohio
State maybe called kind of a vanilla game plan they
didn't want to put much on tape, I would concur
with that, and so you know, as far as the
totals goes, Okay, that's a concern, are they because we
remember last year? Okay, Ohio State very vanilla game plan
against Michigan cost them that game. Then you know Ryan
Day and Chip Kelly allegedly, if you're to believe reports
had it out kind of behind the scenes. Ohio State
comes out uber aggressive in the playoff, put up like
a million points against Tennessee and Oregon right off the rip.
I here's a difference, though, Andy and Dan. Last year,
Ohio State had Will Howard at quarterback. Now they have
Julian Sane and and they also went a stronger offensive
line Ohio State last year going against this Miami pass rush.
I do think it is a concern for the Ohio
State offense, as talented as that receiver room it always is.
I don't I don't see Ohio State putting up a
big point total against this Miami defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, Joey, Joey as the bluck guys
played two real defenses and looked trash Texas and IU.
Speaker 3: This OSU team.
Speaker 4: Is garbage, garbage Cheese, classic Joey Cheese comment right there
that say, what if you've ever met Joey Cheese.
Speaker 5: I can hear him saying that my voice.
Speaker 6: I know, good man, Thanks for joining us, Joey.
Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you, Happy New Year to everybody
in the chat. I have to laugh, Block, says Hay.
Speaker 3: Andy.
Speaker 1: It's new Year's not fourth of July. I listen, I'm
wearing the red, white and blue shirt. Is there a
New Year's Eve theme shirt?
Speaker 5: Is there off option?
Speaker 3: Well? I mean anybody wants that.
Speaker 5: No, not not, not in my household, I'll tell you that.
But you know whatever, I'm too old. Maybe once upon
a time.
Speaker 3: We did that.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to the NBA here, Uh, two teams
that look poised to make playoff runs, and the Spurs
maybe the team that benefits the most from this gok injury.
It looks like they probably got a stranglehold on this
two seed definitely, you know, a top three seeds. So
NIXT you're playing the Spurs tonight. Here, it looks like
Wenby's gonna play. It looks like most everybody for Knicks
are going to play, So we've got pretty clear rosters here.
What's your take on Nixon Spurs, Brian?
Speaker 4: Yeah, great point about the Spurs possibly benefiting from the
Yokachin injury, Andy, because I think we would all concur.
Speaker 5: You know, as at the start of this.
Speaker 4: Week, you were looking kind of at a it was
really close between the Nuggets, the Rockets, and the Spurs.
For who who could lay claim to being the second
best team in the Western Conference. The Spurs have dropped
back to back games after a five game win streak
that included the back to back surprising wins over ok
See prior to losing the last two games, both of
which here at home by the Way to Cleveland and
to Utah.
Speaker 5: The spurs previous loss, well, it was in the NBA
Cup Final to these very Nicks. So perhaps more so
than normal, we do have a legit revenge angle tonight
in the NBA. Revenge, you know, that's it's not often
that we you know, revenge can be overblown in the NBA.
Speaker 4: It rarely means much. But I think the Spurs probably
care here after losing it. You know, Number one, they've
lost back to back games. Two, they remember what happened
the last time they faced this Nick team. It should
be noted poor fourth quarters are with doom the Spurs
these last two games. They were thirteen and a half
point favorites when they lost the Jazz by the way,
one and a half point dogs to Cleveland. Meanwhile, the Knicks,
they're looking to win a third road game in four nights,
not a great situation New Year's Eve, third road game
in four nights. They did not cover the spread the
Knicks either of those last two victories. By the way,
and this is the second night of a back to back.
They were down as many as ten in the second
half last night. New Orleans won that game one thirty
to one to twenty five. Eventually, guys, I would play
the Spurs here, not just because of revenge and the
fact that Knicks are on the second night of a
back to back, but as you both know, the Knicks
are not the same team on the road as they
are at home. Yes, they won the last two nights,
but I mentioned they did not cover. Okay, this is
a team that's fifteen and two straight up at MSG,
just seven and seven straight up on the road, even
with those two wins the last two games, and then
they're a league worse three and eleven against the number
on the road, the Knicks. That's something that you're gonna
want to file away, including oh and three against the
number as a road dog. If you're more juice tolerant,
I would say, go ahead, find a cheap money line
here to play. When I was doing my notes about
a half hour ago, I saw minus one twenty in
a pretty popular place, So I would I would.
Speaker 5: Take that with I think San Antonio wins his bet
this game.
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, you got the we did the blitz yesterday, correct, that's.
Speaker 3: Still it is.
Speaker 5: It is in the Can industry turned in it recorded.
Speaker 4: So people can check this out on the way to
talking YouTube channel. You know again, comment down below if
you've missed US live, we'll be checking the comments section.
So any questions on those bowl games? Uh, you know
we've got obviously the three more quarter finals tomorrow New
Year's Day. We've got some interesting games on Friday as well.
And again, guys, five percent max bet for me on
New Year's Day. We're eight and two in the bowls.
That's number two overall, twenty three and ten in college football.
In November first and it was last year I remember
New Year's Date quite well. We had a five percent
max bet as Ohio State absolutely dump trucked Oregon in
the Rose Bowl. Hoping to start twenty twenty six off
on the same note, five percent max bet WT do
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Speaker 3: BP Brian Power.
Speaker 6: Love it when Brian uses the phrase in the Can always.
Speaker 5: It is an industry term. Like I said, you know,
I'm learning the street term.
Speaker 6: You can use that phrase in multiple industries.
Speaker 5: Brian, Yes you can. What do I know about that?
Speaker 3: Enjoy Brian, you two guys, Thank you so much. Andy.
One thing I wanted to say.
Speaker 2: We got Drew Martin waiting in the wings, and of
course he will be bringing down the Sun Bowl. The
relya Quest Bowl is actually going on as we speak.
Iowa currently up seven points over Vandy at Raymond James
Stadium down in Florida. We're gonna be talking the Sun
Bowl Arizona State versus Duke. I don't know if you
saw the the back end here with wager Talk, but
everybody loved that x Miss two five special so much.
Andy Brian was just mentioning what he had up New
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Speaker 3: Huge deal.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: As we're ringing in the new.
Speaker 2: Year here, right, you have anything up already for clients.
Speaker 1: I have one NBA play, but I'm gonna give it
out on the on the on the the all around
the world.
Speaker 3: Actually I got to a man of the people, Andy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a five percent UFC bet that is
going to go up. That play isn't out for a
couple of weeks, so I'll put it up tomorrow right
after the first of the year to get twenty twenty
six started off on the right foot. But yeah, lines
are coming out. That event isn'tntil January twenty fourth, But
we got to get this play in to get the
best of the number. So lost my five dollars best
bet last night, Dan and excruciating fashion. The write up
was it was Jake Loravia over his points and the
thinking was the books didn'td justice point total. But we
knew he was gonna play a lot more minutes because
he's not coming off the bench, he's starting. He played
more minutes than any person in the game. Played thirty
eight minutes. Uh, Lebron and Lucas shot at like forty times.
He didn't get the he didn't get the production. He
didn't get there. If you told me he's gonna play
thirty eight minutes, I'd make that bet a million times.
So I let everybody down. I apologize, but appreciate you
guys joining in for that one one to five from
three pointers.
Speaker 3: It was a bummer.
Speaker 6: So I will well, I will tell you guys this.
Speaker 1: If Ruey continues to be out and he starts again
in the next game, just go right back to him
and play him over. We saw how many minutes Jake
Larrabi is gonna play. He'snna play thirty plus minutes. So
like I know, he lost a five dollars. Play play
it the next game if he's in the starting lineup.
We'll talk about it on the show as well. So yeah,
I blame Jesse.
Speaker 3: I blame Jesse Schure. That's uh, that's that's the way
that I'll do it. But you know I won't blame
is our man Drew Martin joining us here.
Speaker 2: On the program, Auburn Ablazed on the lid there as
the the Alum. We got a little hardwood action for
the folks. People want to know Saint John's and Georgia.
We're heading into that part of the year, Drew, where
that's going to be top billing here coming up on
wager Talk today.
Speaker 3: But let's start off with the sun Bull.
Speaker 2: I'm interested on here in your handicap because now we're
seeing Duke over a field goal favored. I think three
and a half is basically the market consensus that we're
seeing here for Duke taking on Arizona State. Yeah, three
and a half painted, you know, minus one oh eight,
minus one oh five, so you can call it three
and a quarter. How are you looking to bet this game?
And I think it's an interesting handicap. Who has the
motivation in this one? Duke versus Arizona State? How are
you betting it?
Speaker 3: Drew? Yeah? Sure, Dan.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know who doesn't like heading down to
the border for a little sun Bowl action, you know,
Passo Texas. And I'll tell you Dan, you know, sometimes
we forget this is our ACC Conference champion, Duke. Blue
Devils in the market like him. You know last night
DK was dealing a minus three flat. But you're right,
it's about three and a hook across the board. That's
the only way I could look at.
Speaker 3: This, Dan. It is towards the Blue Devils.
Speaker 7: I mean, Manny Diaz has his team peeking at the
right time, quarterbacks playing. They beat Virginia in that ACC
Conference championship game. Virginia came back, bounced back in the
bowl game, knocked off their SEC opponent in Missouri looking
pretty good. You know, A plus B doesn't always equal
C in bowl season, but it is something to notice.
And they're up against Arizona State. This is the other
side of the equation. I would say as important. Arizona
State is losing a bunch right now. They're playing kind
of with their second stringers at a lot of positions,
including their quarterback who's banged up in Sam Levitt. He's
also looks to be transferring their best player why receiver
Tyson likely a first first round pick in the NFL draft.
He's not gonna be playing. They likely got Jeff Simms,
who's been in college for seems like ten years by now.
He's gonna be taking snaps here for the Sun Devils.
I don't think it adds up. I know they're both
eight win teams. I just think Duke a little bit
better positioned here to win this game. So in the
Sun Bowl, El Paso, Texas should be a fun one.
I would lay the number minus three in the hook
with the blue with the Duke Blue Devils.
Speaker 2: Dan, don't fear the steam, don't fear the hook, says
our man Drew Martin. And Drew before we start talking hardwood,
you heard us talking about that new twenty five special
that we have rocking right now, take twenty five percent
of anything over at the site. How's bullseason been going
for you? How's college basketball been going to people? Head
on over to your page? What are they gonna find?
Speaker 6: Brother?
Speaker 7: Guys that that's some talent right there from Dan and
he's teeing it up pretty good because Bull season five?
Speaker 3: And oh Dan, I learned I learned from watching you.
This is this is how we do it. You know. Yeah, no,
I appreciate that. So hey, it's been great.
Speaker 7: And that's also, by the way, following seventy percent in
Bowl season last year. And Dan, you know, it kind
of comes up to what you were talking about with Duke.
You know, it painted the hook on the three, something
that I've done.
Speaker 3: I'd like to hear both of your opinions on this,
but it's worked for me.
Speaker 7: Is waiting until the day before, maybe two days before
maybe day of game releasing the play and a lot
of people would argue, well, you're not getting the best
of the number, right, Like, if you like Duke in
the situation, it ends up cashing. You lay a three
and a half. There will be people in this industry
that say, uh, you were late, you got you didn't
get the best of the number.
Speaker 3: I go back.
Speaker 7: I make the argument this time of year, it's not
apples to apples. You know, NFL Week eight is not
the same as college football bowl season. I want to
be getting the best of the infan in college football
bowl season. Now, getting good numbers is always important, but
getting the best of the information is more important this
time of year in college football bowl season. That's what
I've been doing. It's obviously been great this year. We
got one going tonight in the college football playoffs, so
attacking that with a four percenter up. But yeah, I
just wanted to throw that out there and see, you know,
in the comments as well, what people think about that.
But I don't always think it's apples to apples, you know,
the number in the information in college football bowl season,
it's more important to have the best of the information.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I couldn't agree more Drew, And you
use the exact term I was gonna use. Okay, you
can get the best of the line come bull season.
You want the best of the information. And I almost
like in week eighteen of the NFL the same exact way,
because who's playing, Who cares about their seating, who cares
about their draft pick, Who's gonna be a for instance,
just the Eagles. You know, there was just some news
that it looks like they're going to be resting their
starters in this game. They go from seven and a
half point favorites down to three and a half point favorites.
I would argue maybe their backups could still be able
to cover three and a half points against Washington, but
you have to know who is in. And it's the
same way with these bowl games. So, yeah, this time
of year more than ever. Yes, long term, you want
to be beat in the market. That's that's the game
that we all play, right. You have to get your
closing line value. You want to have the best of
the number. But best of the number doesn't matter if
you got the best of the number and the starting
quarterback isn't going to be playing, you know. So I
think a great point that you make there, Drew, And yeah,
comment below and let us know how do you attack
bull season.
Speaker 3: We talked about it at the top.
Speaker 2: Now that we're you know, rolling through the end, let
us know what you guys are thinking as well, let's
take a look at the hardwood though, Drew.
Speaker 3: People want to know that.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a decently big game coming up
eight o'clock this evening. Really not much line move outside
of one offshore. We're kind of seeing eight and a half.
Now nine's nine and a half. So we're talking Saint
John's road shock taking on Georgetown this evening total right
around one fifty three, as high as one fifty four
and a half. Fuck a little college basketball, Drew, how
are you betting this one?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 7: Dan? Yeah, Nation's Capital, New Year's Eve here Fox Sports
one actionally eight o'clock Eastern. I'll tell you, Dan, I'd
like Saint John's sidewise. I mean, if you need something sidewise,
I just think, you know, Rick Patino a little bit
of an edge here over Ed Cooley.
Speaker 5: He really hasn't got it going.
Speaker 7: What in a couple of years he's been here at Georgetown,
no tournament appearances. They've lost this season to their last
four Top one hundred opponents, that being Xavier, UNC, Miami, Dayton,
So not a lot of like big wins for Georgetown.
The problem with Saint John's is, you know, they lost
to the three SEC teams they played. They did be
Baylor just laying nine and a hook on the road.
It's not really my cup of tea. You know, you're
asking this team to win by double digits. You know,
obviously it's possible, the ultimate equalizer being nine and a hook.
It's just not what I like to do instead, Dan,
there has been a little bit of line movement in
the total. Last night it was one fifty three. Now
we're seeing as high as one fifty five. And I'll
tell you this, Saint John's very quietly has cashed six
straight games to the under. I don't think we get
to the mid one fifties here, guys. I think we
stay in the one forties, if not below that. Against
six straight unders for Saint John's, this is a top
twenty defensive efficiency team. They've let up sixty six points
or less in four of their last five games. So
Rick Patino coaching up the defense here. Also, this is
a kind of thing I keep in my back pocket
and betting college basketball totals that's worked the last couple
of years. Early conference scheduling, I look under and sure enough,
this is the first Big East Conference game for both
of these two teams, you know, Ed Cooley, Rick Patino
gonna be preaching get back on defense kind of, you know,
a little bit slower game come early conference college basketball season.
So what I'm getting at, guys, one fifty five, I
think it's too tall. I don't think we get there.
Speaker 3: I stay.
Speaker 7: I think we stayed below. And lastly, here these two
teams you know, playing in the Big East Conference last year,
both games stayed short of one twenty. So it's been
low scoring in this series. Saint John's Georgetown under one fifty.
Speaker 3: Five under the total, says Drew Martin.
Speaker 2: Folks, we're not even thirty minutes in and we've already
talked NBA, two college football games and the college basketball game.
Speaker 3: Hit that like button. I mean, these guys are putting.
Speaker 2: In the work for you, hitting everything you'll want to
be betting here to end the year, Drew, always a
pleasure man. Happy new year to you. One more time
on the way out. Remind folks about that bull record
of what we got rocket.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a nice bullseason so far. Guys five
and zero out the gates seventy percent last year, got
a four percenter up tonight about the release the New
Year's Day cards, so you know you can always grab
that three day, seven day or what you get that
huge dis count on the full year package. So with
college football, college basketball, NFL going, that could be a
good thing to jump on. Here come for twenty twenty six.
But yeah, I got the big play going tonight. Got
tomorrow's card coming out, Dan, And uh you don't. Happy
New Year to you, Dan, Happy New Year to you, Andy.
And if Brian's on as well, Happy New Year to him.
So you guys enjoy it and cash those tickets.
Speaker 1: He he's true, Dan, I just I just realized something, Dan.
I know what you were in a previous life. Oh god,
you were in the medieval times. One of the guys
that hypes up and introduces the guys that go out
and does.
Speaker 3: I'm a great hype man.
Speaker 6: I'm an incredible hype man. You one hundred percent did
that in a previous life.
Speaker 3: There is no Well, I just.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, like the guy who brings out like
the Gladiators, you know, like hypes up Decimus, Miss Meridius.
Speaker 3: But that's it. It's it also.
Speaker 2: When it when a dude's on a five and oh
bowl run, Andy it kind of makes the job easy
of hyping up someone who hasn't drissed yet. But but no,
I always I always was, you know, on football, on lacrosse,
you know, team captain. I was always the rally the
troops kind of guy.
Speaker 3: Andy. So you you know me, well, my my reputation
does proceed me.
Speaker 1: I suppose I I played sports with the guy that
played in the NFL, and it was hilarious. I was captain,
and when it come time to like be like before
the game, I would be like, all right, guys, let's
let's try and play hard and be like that.
Speaker 3: Ain't how you do it? You're just like slapping in
the face. It's like, all right, neck. There are levels
to this. There are absolutely, yeah, there there are there
are certainly, yeah, there are certainly levels to this.
Speaker 2: Indeed, Andy coming up. We obviously got all around the world.
Andy's gonna get you some free plays. I have w
T F or l F G. But waiting in the
wings very patiently, we got Brian, so I say we
bring him in now, Andy and Brian joining us well
quaffed as always, buddy, how are we doing today?
Speaker 8: Happy New Year, man, Happy new Year to you too,
and this has been a really good show. I've learned
a lot, a lot of good information. And I got
to tell you when when Brian mentioned putting it in
the can uh, I was, I was Andy, I'm thinking
if I was on the show, I would say something
really embarrassing right now, And when Andy, I just smile,
and that says I like that guy even more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, you ever know what Brian?
Speaker 2: Brian has like twelve different sayings that he always rolls through,
and some of them.
Speaker 3: Like they make sense, Brian, and other ones.
Speaker 2: Come on, mister Powers, that one bole file in the
in the latter category.
Speaker 3: Maybe on that one.
Speaker 2: But but man, it's great getting to have you on here,
Great getting to do a show with you. Two college
football games are going to be breaking down for so Brian,
why why don't you pick first?
Speaker 3: Which one you want to talk?
Speaker 2: Citrus Bowl obviously the one going today tomorrow we got
Oregon in Texas.
Speaker 3: But both of them should be hell of a good game.
Speaker 8: Yeah they should be. Let's talk about the game today.
I set this up as a free play for my
clients yesterday when the line was seven, and my quote was,
I think Texas wins the game, but I think Michigan
gets the cover. Well, now money is flying in on
Michigan as if this game is already over. We saw
it earlier when iowa my top play today, I gave
it out I believe at five and a half and
now it got down to as low as three before
that game went off. Trying to stay ahead of the
lines maker is something we try to do. But I
also agree, well what you guys said about this time,
you're the information being so key. It's some of that
information is why these lines have been moving. So if
you're going to back off these lines, you've got to
have a pretty good reason. So look into Michigan and Texas.
You know, neither team has really been very impressive on
the road. Now, I know it's not a true road game,
but they are playing away from home, especially when these
two teams have stepped up in class. You look at
the Wolverines. They lost to Oklahoma by eleven and at
USC by eighteen. Texas lost at Ohio State in the
regular season open up by seven, but if you remember,
they were completely uplayed in that game, they were lucky
to stay within that number. And then they also lost
by twenty five at Georgia. So we got both teams
who's actually faced even though they're not in the same conference,
they've actually faced Ohio State in Oklahoma, with Michigan being
I scored fifty one to twenty two against those two
opponents and Texas outscoring the two thirty to twenty. Michigan's
really upgraded with the new coach, Cali Weddingham. I thought
that was maybe the first or second best signing in
the offseason. Being from Ohio. I've never been a Michigan fan,
but if you are a Michigan fan, I like the
future of this team. But he's I'm going to be
on the sideline here. The interim coach, bit Pogy has
been promoted from within that we're in the team in
this contest, and we always have to talk about guys
that they're no longer there. Two of the Wolverine's top defenders,
Derek Moore and Jayshawn Barum, have opted out. Those are
two big losses on the defensive side for Michigan here.
Texas wanted Michigan a year ago, by the way, so
this is a bit of a revenge game here for
Michigan and they enter here.
Speaker 3: I did have him.
Speaker 8: I not this is a seven point favorite, but now
it's down to five, five and a half. It's a
lot of money coming in here on Michigan, but Texas
has got some players that are going to be out
with going to be out. Also, they'll be out their
top three rushers and running backs. For the most part,
I hate to say a dime a dozen in college,
he makes more difference than a dozen in the NFL.
But losing your top three that has to be a concern.
And they also have six players overall they're opting out,
which is more than what we're seeing out of in Michigan.
This game's lucky to be sided by the better defense,
and I do think the better defense is the long Horns.
So I had them having the advantage here, but I
can't get there with the line of seven. But now
we're down to five. Going through six and seven, I
hate to be a stickler for I'm an older guy.
I hate to be a stickler for key numbers. But
that means a lot. So I originally liked the Michigan
at the seven, and I hope my people that got
to the free plays yesterday we're able to get the seven.
But right now I said, Texas is going to win.
But now if you can get if you like Texas,
you don't have to lay the six or seven. You
get them at five five and a half. It's makes
it more of a tougher handicap. I like Michigan better
at plus seven. I still lean that way a little bit.
As long as you're catching four and a half or more.
I think Missian's the way to go here. But h
lowis is six and seven. But as as was said,
the information is telling you at Michigan's the right side here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty massive line movement for a big Bowl game
like that tells tells a big, big story. So this
is the fascinating game to me, the Orange Bowl. We
got Oregon and Texas Tech. I can't wait to watch
this one. Actually, my Hoosiers went.
Speaker 3: Into Oregon and beat Oregon.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the quarterback is going to do
with the NFL draft, So we got Oregon here less
than field goal minus two and a half over under
fifty one and a half.
Speaker 3: Brian, what's your take on this game?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't wait. This is my favorite ball game
of the season. I'm excited about this one, even though
we're from Ohio. I think this is going to be
the best matchup of the Bowl season. These two teams
combined to finish the regular season with a nine to
one record against top fifty competition. They've been very good.
The lone loss is a thirty to twenty home defeat
for the Ducks against Indiana, as you mentioned, and I
had Indiana in that game. I liked the situation for Indiana.
I thought they were the better team, and they've looked
really good on the road this year, so I backed
them in that game and got the victory. But both
teams have performed very well against good opposition, and it's
tough to find fault with the ether of these two
teams when you break down what they do. They're both
well deserving of this game, and as I said, I'm
very excited. But every time we try to break this
game down from a side perspective, I can't find a
legitimate edge of this number. Now I know, or against
taking a little bit of money, we're seeing two and
a half, maybe maybe leaning a little bit towards the three.
If I can get three at minus one ten, I
may have to put on a bet here, a bet
on the underdog Texas Tech. But right now, I'm just
sitting back and I want to look at the total.
I think the value is in the total right now,
let's take a look at that it's currently since in
about fifty one and a half. Yes, both teams have
had terrific after seasons, no doubt about it. But the
majority of the games in which they did very well
offensively was against lesser teams and weaker defenses. I went
facing the best of the best. Both teams relied on
their stop units. Oregon against Indiana, Iowa and Washington, three
teams that I have in my Top twenty in college football.
Oregon against Indiana, Iowa, Washington, they gave up point total.
There was a total points in those games of fifty
thirty four and forty. Texas Tech played two games against
top twenty opposition that was Utah and BYU. In those games,
forty four and thirty six points were scored. So I expect,
even though we know both teams have the ability to
score offensively and score in a hurry, I expect this
to be more of a playing for field position type
of game, especially when we take it the first half
of this game. We see this a lot Ohio State's
playing a little bit later today. They in Miami are
basically very slow scoring in the first quarter of feeling
out periods. I think we're going to see that in
this game as well. Tomorrow. Both teams close to the vest.
So I'm gonna look at the under twenty four and
a half in the first half of this game, like
the game, like the team total, game to go under
as well, But we're always looking for key numbers, and
if we can get twenty four and a half in
the first half, that's what I'm looking to play. That's
my best bet right now on this game. Although like
I said, I do like the under in the game
and if I can catch three. I like Texas Tech.
But I'm very excited about these two teams. You know,
I know you're an Indiana fan. I'm an Ohio State fan.
Other than those two, I think Texas Tech could surprise
and win this whole thing. We'll have to see, but
I can't wait for this game to be played.
Speaker 6: You like your buck Guys like you like your buck Geys.
Speaker 3: Chances here in the playoffs, I like.
Speaker 8: The buck Eys, and I was in agreement with the
Indiana when they played Indiana that was coming off the
Michigan A lot of people didn't talk about that. That
was the big game, and they knew they were gonna
play Indiana again for the later on. So the Indiana
wanted that game more than Ohio State did, but they
were very impressive. Indiana's Hey, Indiana's just as good as
Ohio State is. Where you take a look at power ratings,
it goes anywhere from like a two point advantage either
way from a lot of the guys I respect. So
those are clearly the two best teams in college football.
And without Notre Dame in there, Texas Tech and Oregon
right up there as well.
Speaker 1: Brian, we got a lot of specials going on. We
get this new promo code new twenty five take twenty
five percent off anything.
Speaker 6: How can we use this on what you have up
at wager TP.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've I've played a lot of games lately. I've
expanded the quantity of my games because I'm seeing the
games very well. We've got a wedding record in every
sport twenty three and ten recently twelve and four in
the bowl games. And as I said, I've got Iowa
up there right now. We've got two more Bowl games,
We've got three hockey games, We've got two games in
college basketball, one game in the NBA today, So grab
that full day special and you get it for twenty
five percent off. In fact, you're probably better off just
getting an extended amount of time because I have been
putting out more plays than I normally do, and I
will I will do that once in a while when
I'm seeing the card. If I'm not doing well, that's
when I cut back. I don't want to cost anybody
being on a losing streak and start putting up seven plays.
So if you like a lot of plays, that's what's
going on with us right now. And because the specials
we've been having, a lot of guys are signing up
for extended periods, some full seasons, some full twelve months.
So a lot of that going on right now, and
I appreciate that from everybody. But it's been great the
last five months. I'm over on profit, so I've doubled
everybody's back roll in the last five months, even a
little bit more than that. So let's keep it going.
And I've got a big deck's schedule for today and
hopefully Iowa comes in for us and we can catch
the rest of these games.
Speaker 6: Nice work, Brian, Brian lard great, great breakdown, great great
last five months. So congratulations on the second half of
twenty twenty five, looking.
Speaker 1: Forward to a big twenty twenty six. Good luck to
your buck eyes unless they face.
Speaker 6: The Hoosiers, and then I hope they laying.
Speaker 2: That was a great backhanded compliment out of you, and
I hope you have a great game, and then I
hope you lose.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, all right, So Brian has doubled bank rolls
last five months. I did not double people's bank rolls
last night, that's for sure. But if you followed the
under Dan in that disastrous game, did you did you
watch any of that game that we had the under
on the coastal car.
Speaker 2: Oh dear God, no, no, it was I was scoreboard
checking for me.
Speaker 3: That was That was it.
Speaker 5: Andy.
Speaker 3: I couldn't I couldn't do it to myself. Twenty five
penalties for two hundred.
Speaker 9: And twenty eight yards, and they let a lot go
like like they let some of the most hilarious like
there was one because they were like.
Speaker 3: We can't keep calling this. This game's gonna be nine
hours long.
Speaker 1: They were the rest were so fed up at the end.
They were just like and it was like, just don't
make it obvious.
Speaker 3: Then the guy would like rip a guy's helmet off
with the face man.
Speaker 1: There was one play in particular where the offensive player
is going for a deep ball and just shoves the
defensive player and as the defensive player is falling down,
he just grabs the arm of the offensive player drags
him to the ground, and the ref is looking and
he just doesn't throw flag.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know what, you guys both bound the
shit out of each other.
Speaker 6: I'm just not throwing a flag.
Speaker 3: Play on it was, It was wild.
Speaker 6: But the under the under was pretty much never in
doubt with those two.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, that was a nice rocking chair winner for us.
We love to.
Speaker 1: See fumbling and bubbling their way up and down the field.
Speaker 3: What do we have for WTFLFG today? So Andy, I mean,
I've been kicking around, so we're coming in here ending
the year.
Speaker 2: What ten and four, So we've hit both of our
plays to start this week two and oh start to
the week here, so let's end.
Speaker 3: It with a winner. Initially, I was actually looking towards.
Speaker 2: Fading the common conception in this Miami and Ohio State game,
Brian Howard comes on his play he gave out was
looking towards the under in the first half. Everyone who
I've talked to who I trust in college football is
on this under, including folks who are pretty public as well.
So I was leaning towards going the over on that
plus one oh five sitting at twenty and a half,
I think partially because of Ohio State, probably just gonna
look at how Miami won against Texas A and M
and say, hey, if we can get up early on
him and don't let them hang around. But then when
I started diving in, I get why people are towards
the under. Miami only averages around fourteen points per game
in the first half, Ohio State only sixteen and a half,
so you're looking for three touchdowns between two teams with
solid defenses. So I soured on that a bit, andy
And now I just look like I'm a steamchaser because
the official play for me, we're looking at Michigan. This
thing's down to four and a half on the green book,
five and a half everywhere else. So this is a
betit now if you want to take the points with Michigan.
But for me, Andy, you can grade me not even
with the points, since we don't know what this thing
is gonna close with.
Speaker 3: I like Michigan out right against Texas.
Speaker 2: So for the play today, let's take Michigan money line
against Texas plus one eighty five. This thing is crashing,
like I said, plus one seventy at some spots say
I'm steamchasing. Say whatever you want. Michigan wins this game
out right. I mean, Texas has been a tough candy
cap all year long, and all the drama with Michigan
makes it even that tougher of a handicap on what's
on the other sideline. However, the interim coach is coming in.
He's had a couple different chances with this team, and
he likes opening up the playbooks. So I think there's
gonna be some trickery. There's gonna be some things that
Texas maybe hasn't seen, and Michigan.
Speaker 3: What would be a greater way.
Speaker 2: To take the stink of this last month off than
beating Texas in an almost standalone ball with the Citrus
Bowl going down in Orlando, Florida. Last thing on this one, Andy,
is the big ten clearly views bowl season and obviously
the playoffs. You know there's motivation there, but bowl season
as well as a chance to elevate their conference versus
the other conferences, elevate and say hey, we can hang
with these teams. Big ten teams are six and one
when they're facing off against SEC teams in bowl games
where there's fire, there's smoke. I think it becomes seven
in one. Andy, I'm taking the money line Michigan plus
one eighty five. We follow in our face eating. Is
this a w t F or any This a situation
where we will.
Speaker 6: Say, l all right, we got some red flags here.
Speaker 3: I like.
Speaker 6: First is the first is you had to work really
hard to sell me on this play.
Speaker 3: I was working really hard. I wasn't really hard. Uh
So that's a red flag.
Speaker 6: Number two, I I don't like when you pick a
big game in this segment.
Speaker 3: We do like the disgustingness.
Speaker 6: Give me the coastal Carolina under give me the lacrosse.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 6: What do we do with breaking down big games?
Speaker 1: Uh So for that for those two reasons, and you've
been on quite the hot streak.
Speaker 6: I believe it too, but unsustainable. I'm gonna go with
w t F.
Speaker 1: Now I realize that when I do that, I'm taking
the minus two hundred. But I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna
rock with Rob.
Speaker 6: Here and say w t F. They're they're they're taking men.
Speaker 2: And then in the comment tomorrow Andy, people can be like, dude,
why didn't you just take the points they lost by
a field goal?
Speaker 3: Well, that's not what we do here.
Speaker 2: If I'm giving a big game, we're given some plus
money here disgusting as it is Michigan money line and Rob, yes,
Michigan is a mess. Archie is playing. I don't care
about arch Manning. If his last name was Hoosi, what's it,
we wouldn't even be talking about him his last name.
So that's what's LFG. That's where we are are following
the play. It stands for let's fing go as opposed
to what the F? So that's the idea behind the
segment there. But all WTF, Sandy, You know we love it,
Michigan money line?
Speaker 3: What do you got going for all around the world?
Speaker 2: I know you you flirted with the fact that we
got some fun plays in this one.
Speaker 3: How are you looking to bet? All? Right? Well?
Speaker 1: First off, so yeah, we went. We went over Jake Laarabia.
He was one for five from the field last night.
We got hooked on his points. But the way that
you make money in the props market is you come
right back to this play. So there's your first free
play the very next game. And someone in the chat
are already said his next game is against the Grizzlies,
that's its former team. Reeves is still going to be out.
If Ruy's going to be out and he's in the
starting lineup, I mean, the man played thirty eight minutes.
He's going to get to tim ten points. So I
would expect him to uh to to be a play,
not expect he's going to be a client play before
us next game. So all right, let's yeah, let's go
all around the world. We got a few plays to
go over tonight. We got we got a little of everything.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: Dan uh Duck's lightning mckel granlin over one and a
half shots on goal. He's starting to be on fire.
Over in six straight last five games. He's getting four
point four shots on goal. But here's shots, but he's
he's missing less than one shot per game.
Speaker 6: So he's putting. He's accurate. That's what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: If you've got a guy that's not taking a lot
of shots, but he's accurate, that's when you can catch these.
Speaker 3: And that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1: There cannot be anybody else on the planet that talks
about Luke Cornett more than me.
Speaker 3: Every single time I feel like.
Speaker 1: He's playing, I'm giving out a free play on him.
But the fact is he's hitting this six and a
half point total.
Speaker 6: He goes back to the bench. But here's the thing.
Wemby is the starter, but Cornett comes in and he
plays twenty plus minutes and he's going up against the
backups of the other team, and he's really good.
Speaker 1: This is a really skilled guy. He shoots right at
the rims, he's shooting seventy percent from the field, he's
making his free throws, and this line just continues to
be too low. As long as they're hanging six and
a half points. When Wemby is playing, Cornett is just
gonna be undervalued. He's gonna get you some points, he's
gonna get easy baskets. So I'll go with Cornett here
over six and a half points. And then this is
what we've been doing for Ohio State games. If you
are This only works if you have draft kings or
books that have alt team totals. Okay, if you have
alt team totals, you go to the highest team total
of the Ohio State opponent. You take the under, and
then you take the lowest team total for the Ohio
State team and you take the over, and you parlay
that together and you're always getting like minus one twenty five.
So it's gonna be Miami under nineteen and a half
Ohio State over nineteen and a half on their team totals.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 6: This has hit all year long, all year long.
Speaker 1: You just take this Ohio State opponent to go under
their all team total and you take the Ohio State
offense to get over their all team total. So minus
won twenty five. Pretty good price. That's how it's just
been working all year. So you know, if it ain't broke,
don't fix it. So those are free plays that we
got for today.
Speaker 3: Beautiful Andy, well done, good sir. I like it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also so me and me and my team the other
guys on the other YouTube channel. Every every end of
the year we do an end of the year kind
of break down and recap and we talk about you
know twenty twenty six, and we get pretty personal, Like
we're pretty open and honest. But Dan, you have agreed
to do this with us, and we're gonna do it
next week. So this is gonna be something I think
is really important. It can be therapeutic and we're just
gonna talk open and honest. So I asked Dan if
you wanted to do this, So we're gonna do it
next week Tuesday or Wednesday. And if you all want
to join us and put it out into the into
the the ethos, we invite you to do that. But
we're gonna recap personal and professional twenty twenty five. We're
gonna talk about our biggest professional win, our biggest personal win,
and we talk about our losses, things that didn't go well.
Speaker 3: We'll do us.
Speaker 1: We'll do my recap on how twenty twenty five went.
We'll do some takeaways, and then we'll look forward to
twenty twenty six, where we'll talk about some of our
professional goals, personal goals, and our sports wage. You like goals, Yeah, yeah,
it's it's good.
Speaker 3: Every time we do.
Speaker 2: It, it's important and yeah, but like you know, the
world keeps turning, so is it that crazy? You know
when you're you're you're turning the page to another year.
Not really, but it's a good chance if you do
take stock and you do reflect.
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to it. Man.
Speaker 2: We've had a big twenty twenty five, and the fact
that you and I are sitting next to each other
alone indicates it has been a crazy twenty twenty five,
but twenty twenty six bigger, better, more exciting. So man,
I'm pumped to go on the journey here with you and.
Speaker 3: Breaking that down next week. It'll be great. But yeah,
dropping the comments along along with us.
Speaker 2: Man, not any New Year's resolutions you got, you can
drop that as well. But what were you what were
you learning about yourself in twenty twenty five? What are
you looking forward to in twenty twenty six? It was
the hell of a lot to do, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll do that next week. So that's gonna do
it for today. Again. Please hit the like button.
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Speaker 3: Insane today, I can't be. I'm gonna be messing up
right the date for at least three months. At least
three months.
Speaker 6: We already we already have New York's resolutions to bet less, parlays, take.
Speaker 3: The over, take the over, triple f Let's.
Speaker 1: Check in on January fourth, see see how this is going?
Speaker 3: Like this too, Rob, I plan on putting on a
lot of weight. I like that reverse reverse.
Speaker 2: Let don't let society program your mind, Rob, well done.
Speaker 6: Some societies being a fat tub of shit is sexy.
Speaker 2: Yeah in this society, like decades and decades ago in
different generations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: That was a sign of opulence, Sandy, and we can
bring that as old as new.
Speaker 3: We are going to have our usual show tomorrow, so
I'm probably I'm not doing are you doing much tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm not a big I'm not a big go out
party guy. I'm usually a hangout on the couch. But
we have family in town, so we're actually gonna be
making a little road trip down to uh, down to
Orange County, and we're gonna be seeing uh, you know,
I told you about the band that played our wedding
a few times. They're they're having a big show and
actually Andy I maybe joining them on stage for a song.
Speaker 3: So that's that we'll so we'll see, we'll see how
that goes. There may be it was a must. There
may be a video, yes, yes, there should be.
Speaker 2: So that's that's what we're doing. The family is gonna
drive on down there and we're gonna rock out with
the bright Siders down in Santa Ana for the night.
So that's I'm not a go out guy, but this
is the only going out that I will be doing.
Speaker 3: That's for sure.
Speaker 1: Nice nice, I got uh, let's see me and wife
are gonna do big Italian dinner tonight.
Speaker 6: Maybe movie maybe maybe just but yeah, it's it's an inside.
Speaker 2: So Andy will be carrying the weight on tomorrow's show,
is what it's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 6: I'm just kind of now absorbing the information, going, okay,
I better be prepped, ready to gain coming.
Speaker 3: And he's coming proper.
Speaker 2: I'll be about seventy five percent if if all goes right, no.
Speaker 3: All good, all good.
Speaker 6: Be safe out there, guys, wake up and let's get
after it.
Speaker 3: In twenty two, we've been drinking, hopping, an uber alyft.
Just be safe and have a great one. Guys, we
appreciate it absolutely, Thank you so much. Its been a
great twenty twenty five. We'll see everyone tomorrow.
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty six, good look on your bets, see
everyone tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Take care,