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<v Speaker 1>Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say the word EmPATH, what comes to mind feelings, feelings,

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<v Speaker 2>but specifically someone who is an EmPATH?

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<v Speaker 3>What comes to mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Someone who really feels the feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great and others.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, you know, the dictionary defines an EmPATH ready for

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<v Speaker 2>this as a person with the paranormal ability to apprehend

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<v Speaker 2>the mental or emotional state of another individual.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a Kakamami definition. If I've ever heard one for

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<v Speaker 3>someone who feels feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think not only is it cock, maybe it's myopic. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>What the word EmPATH actually embodies to me is someone

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<v Speaker 2>that feels others' emotions and can sometimes even be affected

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<v Speaker 2>by them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Now this is something that you have had to

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<v Speaker 2>contend with all your life, pretty much?

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<v Speaker 4>No, pretty much yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too. But has it ever gotten to the

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<v Speaker 2>point where you feel that you're going to lose it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know about losing it, but it's gotten,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I've woken up some days just on the

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<v Speaker 1>bridgetiers all day long form.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, where some people sometimes have a really difficult

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<v Speaker 2>time being an EmPATH and not being able to get

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<v Speaker 2>a grip. Luckily, today's guest is going to teach us

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<v Speaker 2>just how to get a grip and, in her words,

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<v Speaker 2>move from hot mess and world class awfuliser to thriving success,

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<v Speaker 2>all while maintaining your empathic abilities.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I'm ready to not be a hot mess anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is the interview from me.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Will and unlike Boulder and Scully, both

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<v Speaker 2>want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to Skeptic Medicians Classic. You are listening to classic

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<v Speaker 5>skeptic metaphysicians. Welcome to our version of a walkdown memory

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<v Speaker 5>lane as we present classics from the Skeptic met Physician Library,

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<v Speaker 5>warts and all.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, how old were you the first time you got

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<v Speaker 4>your palm read?

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<v Speaker 2>The first time I got my palm red? I think

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<v Speaker 2>the first time was probably when I was in high

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<v Speaker 2>school at some point, but the paint kind of wore off.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, you're so funny, Oh my god, didn't shitn't?

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<v Speaker 4>How about the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the last time I got my palm read.

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<v Speaker 2>It was must have been a very long time ago.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I don't remember either. I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 4>I've had it read before.

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<v Speaker 1>I think and then I've gotten some of those magazines

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<v Speaker 1>or books where you try to read your own palm,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was never very good.

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<v Speaker 3>At it, palm reading.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's something that everyone knows about, but not really

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<v Speaker 4>many people have gotten done.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, we did that one episode with the hand analyst.

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<v Speaker 4>Hand that seems different.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's more scientific, right, it was love more scientific?

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<v Speaker 2>But what I mean, couldn't it be somewhat similar? And

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that palm readers tell you your future

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<v Speaker 2>beasts and the lines are on your hand and hand

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<v Speaker 2>anauly analysts also tell you what your future is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be, or what your life's purpose is supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be based on your lines in your hands.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was her telling us who we were,

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<v Speaker 4>but I guess that's your life purpose too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, your like's purpose is what is what she does?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>So though she uses it in a very scientific way,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean that the people in a local carnival

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<v Speaker 2>that take a look at your line tell you how

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<v Speaker 2>many kids you're going to have. That might be a

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<v Speaker 2>little different, because I don't think hand analysis can foretell.

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<v Speaker 3>Your future that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think in terms of tell you how many

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<v Speaker 2>how many kids you're gonna have?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know about that, but I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to go get my palm read again. So since we

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that right now, why don't we just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the interview?

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like a plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. I am Will and I'm Karing.

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<v Speaker 3>We are your hosts.

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<v Speaker 2>As always in today, we have Jennifer Elizabeth Moore with us.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the all of empathic mastery, an intuitive mentor and

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<v Speaker 2>a master trainer for EFT International. She helps empaths, creatives,

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<v Speaker 2>and light workers control the empathic overwhelm that keeps them

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in life and business and to harness their abilities

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<v Speaker 2>to manifest their deepest heart desire.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't that sound just wonderful?

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait to speak with her. Jennifer, thanks so

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<v Speaker 2>much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, Will and Karen, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just have to say, you guys made me

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<v Speaker 6>chuckle listening to you talk about the definition. I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>realize that apprehended. I would be more inclined to say

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<v Speaker 6>if I was going to change one thing in that definition,

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<v Speaker 6>it would be observed would be absorbs all the thoughts, feelings, energy,

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<v Speaker 6>and sensations of the world around us, not apprehends them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was pretty a big surprise for me when

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<v Speaker 2>I researched it and said, no, this can't possibly So

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<v Speaker 2>I looked it up like three four times and yep,

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<v Speaker 2>sure enough, that that's what it says.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, and actually, it strikes me that this may really

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<v Speaker 6>have to do with the origins of the word, because

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<v Speaker 6>the origins of the word came from a science fiction

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<v Speaker 6>story that was written back in the nineteen fifties called

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<v Speaker 6>The Mpath and it was basically about this this special

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<v Speaker 6>subgroup of human beings with extrasensory perception and abilities and

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<v Speaker 6>paranormal abilities who were basically being used by the government

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<v Speaker 6>to apprehend emotions and pick up on what was going on.

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<v Speaker 6>And then the word sort of went from that science

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<v Speaker 6>fiction thing. And I can never remember the name of

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<v Speaker 6>the author.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so sorry, sir, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Cara call your name, but that was where it started.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you know, we saw the first sort of

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<v Speaker 6>exposure in science fiction and in media with the Star Trek,

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<v Speaker 6>the first generation of Star Trek, where there was the

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<v Speaker 6>episode called Them, and that's when it started to get

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<v Speaker 6>into common language. But it comes it was a word

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<v Speaker 6>that didn't even exist until the nineteen fifties and was

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<v Speaker 6>basically coined by science fiction people. So it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 6>the dictionary is using kind of the science fiction y

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<v Speaker 6>definition of it as opposed to our more sort of

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<v Speaker 6>common understanding of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now seems to be kind of part for the course

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<v Speaker 2>the way society is go in these days. Right everything

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<v Speaker 2>is based on a science fiction book. At least it

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<v Speaker 2>feels like we're living through a science fiction book right

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<v Speaker 2>now myself.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, we're excited to talk to you because I

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<v Speaker 2>know Karen is really excited to talk to you because

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<v Speaker 2>she has suffered a lot with empathic abilities. She is

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<v Speaker 2>very much affected the emotions of other people and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>has a hard time snapping out of it. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking for you, Karen, but that's okay, and she

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<v Speaker 2>I think she probably pretty much identifies with that term

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, the former hot mess and world class awfulizer.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm curious what did that look.

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<v Speaker 6>Like for you, So I'm imagining I look very similar

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<v Speaker 6>to Karen's experience with this. For me, as a child,

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<v Speaker 6>I was super sensitive. I was constantly feeling a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of intense feelings. I was in a state of anxiousness

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<v Speaker 6>sort of imagine worst case scenarios. And the thing was

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<v Speaker 6>that I was very frequently feeling out of sorts, even

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<v Speaker 6>if there was nothing going on in my life that

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<v Speaker 6>correlated to that. And so, because you know we're talking,

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<v Speaker 6>was constantly basically being told that I was overreacting, that

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<v Speaker 6>I was taking it too personally, that I was making

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<v Speaker 6>to stop worrying about it, and that basically I just

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<v Speaker 6>So I started to imagine, by the time I was

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<v Speaker 6>and third decade of my life really struggling with what's

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<v Speaker 4>I this way?

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<v Speaker 6>Why am I reacting to things so frequently? Why do

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<v Speaker 6>I feel blue for no reason? Why do I feel

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<v Speaker 6>terrified for no reason? Why am I experiencing these horrible nightmares?

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<v Speaker 6>Why am I having these sort of visions of apocalyptic possibilities?

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<v Speaker 6>Like all of the discomfort, and I was just living

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<v Speaker 6>time that I was feeling unexplainable distress, there was a

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<v Speaker 6>correlation with either reconnecting to other people, or being in

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<v Speaker 6>started to realize that what I was imagining was my

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<v Speaker 6>own personal overwhelming distress was partially mine, but more of

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<v Speaker 6>it was actually coming from the world around me. And

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<v Speaker 6>in my experience, there are people who are empaths, where

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<v Speaker 6>what they pick up on is just the people around them,

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<v Speaker 6>like the thoughts, feelings, energy sensation that are coming from

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<v Speaker 6>the world around them. But then there are those of

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<v Speaker 6>us who are so sensitive that we are also picking

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<v Speaker 6>up on the geopathic stress. We are picking up on

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<v Speaker 6>the climate change emergency, we are picking up on the

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<v Speaker 6>sort of social unrest that is going on. And a

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<v Speaker 6>can also be sort of feeling like ripples coming from

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<v Speaker 6>the future into the present where we pick this up. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't explain why or how we have this capacity

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<v Speaker 6>for premonition, but what I can say is that I

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<v Speaker 6>can say that multiple times in my life, like to

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<v Speaker 6>the point where I can no longer count, there has

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<v Speaker 6>been this sort of sense of the rumble underneath my feet,

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<v Speaker 6>ten days to three weeks later, sometimes a bit longer,

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<v Speaker 2>Now as I'm watching you speak, I'm watching Karen not

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<v Speaker 1>So my eyes started to tear up, like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 6>of it's okay. And so as very sensitive children, we

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<v Speaker 6>but as sensitive people, we were picking them up. And

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<v Speaker 6>what I've seen so frequently happen is the parents, like

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<v Speaker 6>not happening, even if it actually is. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 6>this very frequently, is that one of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, and that's and as empouse We're like,

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<v Speaker 2>We've had a lot of guests who has spoken directly

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<v Speaker 2>to me about stuff. This time, Karen, I told you

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<v Speaker 2>this one is for you because I'm seeing you just

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<v Speaker 2>resonate with every single things that she's saying. I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 2>seeing you like blossom up like yes, yeah, someone else

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<v Speaker 2>understands what I'm going through. So I guess what we

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<v Speaker 2>need to figure out now that we know what an

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<v Speaker 2>EmPATH is. And I think Karing you were you were

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<v Speaker 2>told that you were Claire sentient.

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<v Speaker 3>That's clear.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a way of feeling a clear like what typical

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<v Speaker 2>what EmPATH goes by? But how does someone get a grip?

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<v Speaker 6>How does someone get a grip? So I actually so

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<v Speaker 6>I'd love to hold that for a second. Let's put

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<v Speaker 6>a pin in that question because I want to talk

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<v Speaker 6>about the difference between Claire sentience and mpath.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good, yes, so listen to the podcast longer for

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<v Speaker 3>the answer. That's perfect, good idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Y okay, yeah, okay, So what I want to talk

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<v Speaker 6>Claire's the you know, you've got sort of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 6>of psychic ability or paranormal ability. You've got people who

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<v Speaker 6>You've got people who identify as having one dominant Claire.

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<v Speaker 6>You also have people who identify as mediums, and you

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<v Speaker 6>have people who are empaths. What I have found is

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<v Speaker 6>that in all of these cases we are more open

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<v Speaker 6>and capable of receiving information than the average bear. We

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<v Speaker 6>are receiving and getting stuff. But what I have found,

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<v Speaker 6>and this is what makes being an mpath really challenging,

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<v Speaker 6>is that where an intuitive, a psychic, clairvoyant, clarecentient Claire,

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<v Speaker 6>audience Claire, you know, Claire, cognizant Claire Claire, Gustin's Claire

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<v Speaker 6>alliens whatever. You know, all of these clarity there's one

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<v Speaker 6>of those jukes you are threatening, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 6>The thing is that in all of these cases they

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<v Speaker 6>can distinguish what is theirs and what is not theirs.

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<v Speaker 6>They know they're picking up information, but they know that

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<v Speaker 6>they're picking up information that is separate from them there's

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<v Speaker 6>discernment m paths. By our very nature experience the data

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<v Speaker 6>as if it's our own. And so not only are

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<v Speaker 6>we picking up the thoughts, feelings, energy and sensations from

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<v Speaker 6>the world around us. A Claires sentient can be picking

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<v Speaker 6>up the thoughts, feeling, sensations, energy from the world around them,

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<v Speaker 6>but they know it's coming from the world around them.

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<v Speaker 6>What makes being an mpath so hard is that we

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<v Speaker 6>experience everything through our own sensory filters, and so what

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<v Speaker 6>happens is the information comes in, but then we interpret

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<v Speaker 6>it through our own body. We interpret it through our

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<v Speaker 6>so we start feeling sad as if it's our sadness.

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<v Speaker 6>We start feeling fear if it's our fear, We start

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<v Speaker 6>feeling rage if it's our rate. We start feeling the

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<v Speaker 6>confinking we're finding the distress like, we will find a

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<v Speaker 6>way to sort of create the scenario or the story,

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<v Speaker 6>to dial it into our own perspective, so that then

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<v Speaker 6>we are perseverating about something that's going on. So like,

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<v Speaker 6>for example, I was at reached a conference a number

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<v Speaker 6>of years ago, and I came there feeling absolutely confident

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<v Speaker 6>and fine and excited to be there, and all of

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<v Speaker 6>a sudden, I was like there for a couple hours

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<v Speaker 6>and I started to feel like a fraud. I started

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<v Speaker 6>to feel like, who do you think you are? I

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<v Speaker 6>started to experience my confidence flagging, and I just really

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<v Speaker 6>started to like feel like insecure and uncomfortable. And all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden it dawned on me that I was

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<v Speaker 6>in a room. This was a business retreat for transformational entrepreneurs,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was in a room where there were a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people who were not succeeding, and where the

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<v Speaker 6>way that this person that the people were leading the

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<v Speaker 6>event were teaching was that they were helping people to

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<v Speaker 6>see their deficiencies and what it was that they needed

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<v Speaker 6>to address. And so there was a whole room of

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<v Speaker 6>the head revelations of their inadequacies. But instead of it

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<v Speaker 6>being like, oh wow, I'm feeling all of this or

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<v Speaker 6>sensing all of these people who are really struggling with

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<v Speaker 6>their self esteem because they're realizing, maybe for the first time,

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<v Speaker 6>that they don't have all the answers, I experienced it

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<v Speaker 6>as if it was my problem. And so what I

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<v Speaker 6>have found and this kind of leads us to the

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<v Speaker 6>question you asked, which is, how is EmPATH do we

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<v Speaker 6>deal with this? So the reason that I set up

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<v Speaker 6>the five step system that's in my book is because

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<v Speaker 6>what I found is that a lot of the solutions

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<v Speaker 6>that are being offered to highly sensitive empathic people do

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<v Speaker 6>not cut it. And part of it is like, how

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<v Speaker 6>many times have you been told something like, oh, just

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<v Speaker 6>put up a bubble of light, Like have you ever

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<v Speaker 6>been you know, have you either of you guys ever

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<v Speaker 6>gotten that one? Just put up a bubble of light,

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<v Speaker 6>you'll be okay, or just think positive thoughts, you'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And what I noticed was that the problem is that

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<v Speaker 6>this is this is a step in the process, but

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<v Speaker 6>it is not the first step. And if we are

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<v Speaker 6>already carrying around a whole bunch of distress that we've

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<v Speaker 6>absorbed and taken on from the world around us, the

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<v Speaker 6>problem is that we if you put a bubble of

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<v Speaker 6>light up around that, it's kind of like taking a

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<v Speaker 6>of the tub and letting the dirty water sit there

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<v Speaker 6>and then pulling the curtain back around. It's not going

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<v Speaker 6>to address what you're already carrying inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, that's not what you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not what you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Oop.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, it's like you drain the bathtub.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll pull the plug, Karen, Sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pull the plug, you know, let it drain. And so,

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<v Speaker 6>what I discovered is that the first step of being

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<v Speaker 6>is first just to even recognize that you are an mpath.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the first literally the first step in the

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<v Speaker 6>system is recognized, and there's three levels to recognize. The

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<v Speaker 6>first is just oh, I am an mpath and I

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<v Speaker 6>am affected by these things. The second step is recognizing

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<v Speaker 6>that you are actually feeling something like going like I'm

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<v Speaker 6>feeling really out of sorts, I'm feeling really disoriented, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>is to start working on recognizing what's mine, what's not mine,

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<v Speaker 6>how much of this is actually coming from within me,

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<v Speaker 6>how much of it is coming from without me. Most

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<v Speaker 6>of the time it's a combination of you know, like

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<v Speaker 6>I'll ask myself is this mine? And I would say

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<v Speaker 6>that ninety five percent of the time the answer is yes,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's also something else. So the first step that

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<v Speaker 6>to be an EmPATH and instead of like kind of

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<v Speaker 6>can get over it, stuff worrying about it. Instead, we

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<v Speaker 6>need to validate that we are picking something up, that

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<v Speaker 6>that's like the first step when it comes to empathic

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<v Speaker 6>mastery is just to recognize what's going on. And very simply,

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<v Speaker 6>some of my distress has been I've been really sort

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<v Speaker 6>of having echoes of life during the Reagan administration and

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<v Speaker 6>just kind of like what life was like back then

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<v Speaker 6>when we were, you know, worrying about acid rain, and

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<v Speaker 6>also like worrying about the right sort of a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of different things happening, but I know that there is that,

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<v Speaker 6>recognize as the first step. The second step before we

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<v Speaker 6>is release. We need to release the stuff that is

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<v Speaker 6>because in the more than three decades of work that

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<v Speaker 6>I have never ever ever found a tool more effective

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<v Speaker 6>than EFT also known as tapping, but it stands for

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<v Speaker 6>emotional freedom techniques, and honestly, I have yet to find

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<v Speaker 6>also other ways we can release. We can go for walks,

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<v Speaker 6>we can use our breath, we can use journaling. You

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<v Speaker 6>could just you know, throw yourself into a clean bathtub

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<v Speaker 6>and sort of imagine all the extra stuff kind of

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<v Speaker 6>coming out of you you clean bathtub. That idea YU yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>or you pull the you know, you put the plug in,

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<v Speaker 6>you run the clean water and then you pull the

429
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<v Speaker 6>plug when you're done, and so you know releases. The

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<v Speaker 6>second step, the third step is when we start to

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<v Speaker 6>build up our psychic filters and shields. It's the third

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<v Speaker 6>step is protect. This is when we can start building

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<v Speaker 6>up more robust filters and shields, because if we build

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<v Speaker 6>up filters and shields in a state of distress, the

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<v Speaker 6>distress that is going on internally is almost like it's

436
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<v Speaker 6>kind of like verdict. It's kind of like lacquer remover

437
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<v Speaker 6>from the inside. It weakens our filters and shields internally,

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<v Speaker 6>so it compromises our ability to sustain any.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of protection.

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<v Speaker 6>So we come to the third step of setting up

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<v Speaker 6>our energetic filters and shields, but also logistically having boundaries

442
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<v Speaker 6>recognizing where are we saying yes when we should be

443
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<v Speaker 6>saying no, Where are we acquiescing, where are we going along?

444
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<v Speaker 6>Where are we withholding our truth? Where are we overextending ourselves?

445
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<v Speaker 6>Where are we overdoing overgiving? Where are we people pleasing?

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<v Speaker 6>Because these are also traits that are very common for

447
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<v Speaker 6>mpaths because we feel people's disapproval, We feel people's like

448
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<v Speaker 6>disappointment and we don't and it's uncomfortable, and so we

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<v Speaker 6>will often want to please people so that we don't

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<v Speaker 6>have to feel the discomfort. And that's a whole other

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<v Speaker 6>piece of it, because what I have found is that,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, some people would say that empafs are codependent

453
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<v Speaker 6>because we are sort of enmeshed or invested in helping people,

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<v Speaker 6>are rescuing people. What I believe is that we feel

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<v Speaker 6>better when other people feel better. So it is absolutely

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<v Speaker 6>understandable that we're going to want to rush into rescue

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<v Speaker 6>and we're going to want to help people to feel better.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a selfish thing saying it.

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<v Speaker 6>Is a selfish thing to do. Yeah, we have an agenda.

460
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<v Speaker 6>It's it's very uncomfortable to be around people in distress.

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<v Speaker 6>So you know. So then the fourth step after we

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<v Speaker 6>learn to protect, is connect and I look at that

463
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<v Speaker 6>as connecting to a power greater than ourselves because I

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<v Speaker 6>really have found that the universe of core is a vacuum.

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<v Speaker 6>If you just clear things out, you get rid of

466
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<v Speaker 6>the negativity and the toxicity, but you don't replace it

467
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<v Speaker 6>with anything, then unfortunately, the negative that he is going

468
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<v Speaker 6>to come back. And so what I have found is

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<v Speaker 6>that we need to start connecting to a force, a power,

470
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<v Speaker 6>a wisdom, a love that is greater than ourselves. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to tell you what your sense of

472
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<v Speaker 6>a higher power is. I believe that is an incredibly

473
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<v Speaker 6>intimate thing, and that is a very very deeply personal thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But in order to not keep on repeating the same

475
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<v Speaker 6>pattern of taking on all the energy that's coming from

476
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<v Speaker 6>the world around us, we really need to connect to

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<v Speaker 6>something different. So it's sort of like we're replacing the

478
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<v Speaker 6>energy with a more positive energy, with a more positive frequency.

479
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<v Speaker 6>So instead of us running away from things, what we're

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<v Speaker 6>starting to do is we're moving towards our desire and

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<v Speaker 6>moving towards the things that feel good to us. And

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<v Speaker 6>then the final step of empathic mastery, which comes after

483
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<v Speaker 6>we've really kind of gotten ourselves stabilized and we're not

484
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<v Speaker 6>wobbling all over the place, is act, which has to

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<v Speaker 6>do with really looking at how are we living in

486
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<v Speaker 6>our How are we living our life in a way

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<v Speaker 6>that allows us to be of service in the world,

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<v Speaker 6>but also allows us to do the things that keep

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<v Speaker 6>us healthy and thriving, and living in a way that

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<v Speaker 6>reinforces and supports us as opposed to keeps getting us

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<v Speaker 6>into trouble. So long answer but the thing is that

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<v Speaker 6>where some people might have a short, sweet, quick, easy answer,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I wrote a three hundred and eighty page

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<v Speaker 6>book about what we need to do to deal with this,

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<v Speaker 6>and I have spent the last like multiple decades of

496
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<v Speaker 6>my life really learning how to navigate it because it

497
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<v Speaker 6>is complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we need to take a break, but we'll be

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<v Speaker 4>Are there any benefits at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Exhausted like, well, okay, I'm not the only one, but man,

544
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<v Speaker 1>this kind of sucks.

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<v Speaker 6>So I really do believe there are benefits. And what

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<v Speaker 6>I actually believe I actually interestingly channeled an entire book.

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<v Speaker 6>Was the very first time I've ever channeled in an entire book.

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<v Speaker 6>But I channeled an entire book last week. And what

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<v Speaker 6>kept coming through was I was doing this was the

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<v Speaker 6>explanation that that the thing is, we are in the

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<v Speaker 6>first wave of empaths. We are the ones who are

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<v Speaker 6>awakening to our sensitivity in order for this planet, for

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<v Speaker 6>our Actually, the planet is going to survive regardless of

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<v Speaker 6>what we as human beings do, Like the planet will

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<v Speaker 6>find her way and we'll keep going. But us as

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<v Speaker 6>a species, we are on a precarious We're kind of

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<v Speaker 6>on a precarious moving in a direction that like we

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<v Speaker 6>need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Train.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we are making some interesting choices, let's just say.

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<v Speaker 6>And what I what they What my sort of counsel

562
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<v Speaker 6>explained to me was that there are more and more

563
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<v Speaker 6>people are awakening to their empathic nature, because in order

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<v Speaker 6>for us to change the course of our behavior as

565
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<v Speaker 6>a species, we must feel the consequences of our choices,

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<v Speaker 6>and we must understand what that is. And the thing

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<v Speaker 6>is that this idea, one of the things that they

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<v Speaker 6>keep on I keep hearing over and over again, is

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<v Speaker 6>that we are the cells in the body of this earth.

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<v Speaker 6>We are not individuals, We are not separated. We are

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<v Speaker 6>all cells in the body of the earth. We are

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<v Speaker 6>part of a larger organism. And as part of a

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<v Speaker 6>larger organism, we are not actually separate. And so when

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<v Speaker 6>we are feeling ourselves compartmentalized, when we are feeling ourselves

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<v Speaker 6>in this sort of you know, world of human dominion,

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<v Speaker 6>we don't feel the repercussions of our choices and our

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<v Speaker 6>actions as a species. And what I believe is happening

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<v Speaker 6>is that there are those of us who are sort

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<v Speaker 6>of born in the first wave. And I'm imagining, Karen,

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<v Speaker 6>you and I are kind of in that first you know,

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<v Speaker 6>sort of those first really highly sensitive people who are

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<v Speaker 6>sensing what is going on, not just with ourselves, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like whether it's like within your environment. It

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<v Speaker 6>could be just in your community or your circle of people,

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<v Speaker 6>it could be in your region, it could be it

586
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<v Speaker 6>could be just and it can it can sort of

587
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<v Speaker 6>expand out to globally. But I really believe that we

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<v Speaker 6>are the ones who are feeling what is happening on

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<v Speaker 6>the planet and weird, and part of it is that

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<v Speaker 6>our job is to actually feel it, but also to

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<v Speaker 6>access love and to access hope and possibility. But in

592
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<v Speaker 6>many ways, it's like we we are here to feel

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<v Speaker 6>what everybody needs to be feeling in order for us

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<v Speaker 6>to turn this around. And what I will say is

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<v Speaker 6>that in my experience, the more comfortable I have gotten

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<v Speaker 6>with feeling my own grief, my own anxious, my own fear,

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<v Speaker 6>and my own disappointment and anger, and the more work

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<v Speaker 6>I've done around sort of reconciling the past wounds, the

599
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<v Speaker 6>more capable I am of holding space for the pain

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<v Speaker 6>without having to finding myself being submerged in it. So

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<v Speaker 6>but it is It's a tall order because we are

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<v Speaker 6>hidding crisis for portions a as the species right now,

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<v Speaker 6>and you and me, those of us who are feeling it.

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<v Speaker 6>It is not easy by any means, and especially these

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<v Speaker 6>last like two and a half years with the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 6>it has been brutal. And I will just say, Karen,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're not talking to a lot of mpaths, you

608
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<v Speaker 6>are so not alone, Like this is the experience that

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<v Speaker 6>many of us are having right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was so excited because I finally, after however

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<v Speaker 1>many years old, I am learned how to compartmentalize.

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<v Speaker 6>I had to learn how to curate. I learned how

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<v Speaker 6>to curate with this with One of the gifts of

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<v Speaker 6>the pandemic was being able to tap out and say

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<v Speaker 6>I've had it. I spent the first six months of

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<v Speaker 6>the pandemic watching good Witch and Gray's Anatomy. God only

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<v Speaker 6>knows why Grey's Anatomy was safe, but there was something

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<v Speaker 6>about the over the top dramatization of it. But also

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<v Speaker 6>what I realized is that what I love about Grey's

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<v Speaker 6>Anatomy is that it's like it's like there's no there's

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<v Speaker 6>no suppression of emotion. It's like it's all like big, big,

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<v Speaker 6>big feelings all the time. And for mpaths, when people

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<v Speaker 6>own their feelings, we don't have to own them. So

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<v Speaker 6>there was almost like a comfort of being able to

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<v Speaker 6>see people processing their feelings on Grey's Anatomy without having

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<v Speaker 6>to be the person to process the feelings for them.

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<v Speaker 6>And that Goodwitch, which I don't know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 6>watched it, and it's a very adorable Hallmark series about

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<v Speaker 6>this lovely healer named Cassie Nightingale and runs metaphysical shop somewhere,

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, in this lovely little small town in Canada,

631
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<v Speaker 6>and it just has, like you know, like episode upon

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<v Speaker 6>episode with just very very benign and tame things where

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<v Speaker 6>the villain literally wears a black hat and like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's so tame, it's just so sweet, and those

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<v Speaker 6>about what I could tolerate. So I also, I would say,

636
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<v Speaker 6>I learned to curate, not necessarily mental life about to curate.

637
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<v Speaker 2>So I need to step in here and say this

638
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<v Speaker 2>episode is not brought to you by a good Witch

639
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<v Speaker 2>or Grey's Anatomy.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you a lot of as I would say. And

641
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<v Speaker 6>I am not a doctor, nor I play do I

642
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<v Speaker 6>play one on TV?

643
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<v Speaker 2>I want to touch base a little bit on what

644
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<v Speaker 2>you said, and you touched on this a little bit,

645
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<v Speaker 2>but when someone probably the best way to say this

646
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is I've constantly told Karen that I think she's on

647
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>this planet to share love, to spread love, right because

648
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>she is an unbelievably loving human being who cares so

649
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>deeply for people that she has so much love from it.

650
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>But societal norms keep things like that at arm's length.

651
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:42.039
<v Speaker 3>But I encourage her to.

652
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Share that love if someone, if enough of us were

653
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.519
<v Speaker 2>to go out there and really just screw the as

654
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:51.480
<v Speaker 2>title norms and just allow yourself to love others and

655
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>express your love with that tilt the scales a little bit.

656
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<v Speaker 6>I really believe we are in the pivot right now,

657
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<v Speaker 6>and that we are in you know, I believe, And

658
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 6>one of the things that I said in the book

659
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<v Speaker 6>is that I think we're kind of If you've ever

660
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<v Speaker 6>heard of Ken Kesey the hundredth Monkey theory and the

661
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.760
<v Speaker 6>idea of basically the hundred monkey theory was a story

662
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<v Speaker 6>where there were there was this island and these monkeys

663
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 6>learned how to wash their potatoes, and so the scientists

664
00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 6>were watching this and then like one tribe of monkeys

665
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<v Speaker 6>or one group of monkeys would teach their young how

666
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:26.280
<v Speaker 6>to do this, and then eventually, sort of these other

667
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 6>monkeys started to pick it up from the other monkeys

668
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 6>and they started teaching their young. So eventually the entire

669
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<v Speaker 6>the entire population of monkeys on this one island were

670
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<v Speaker 6>washing their potatoes. And then all of a sudden, these

671
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 6>other scientists who are sort of observing this or observing

672
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.840
<v Speaker 6>monkeys in another island separate from this, starting to notice

673
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 6>this phenomenon where all of a sudden, these other monkeys

674
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 6>were washing the potatoes. And so the theory of the

675
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 6>hundredth monkey is that when we get to critical mass

676
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 6>in terms of a consciousness or an awareness, there will

677
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.960
<v Speaker 6>be a quantum shift where suddenly the under the monkey

678
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.159
<v Speaker 6>sort of flips the switch and everybody has this access

679
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.039
<v Speaker 6>to this thing. My theory is that, you know, Karen

680
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 6>and I are in the eighty seventh monkey category. We

681
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 6>are getting there, but as a species, we haven't quite

682
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 6>hit critical mess. And our job is absolutely to be

683
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 6>turning the switch and to be doing the things that

684
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 6>not everybody is doing yet, which is expressing love. And

685
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<v Speaker 6>I want to speak a little bit more about why

686
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 6>do we have this ability. The thing about an mpath

687
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 6>is that we have both the ability to receive, but

688
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 6>we also have the ability to broadcast and beam. And

689
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 6>so when we are taking on the thoughts, feelings, energy,

690
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 6>sensation of the world around us, and we're spinning out

691
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 6>with the misery of it, it is very, very very

692
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 6>hard to do anything else. But as we learn how

693
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:51.000
<v Speaker 6>to release this, and we learn how to find our

694
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 6>center and sort of recalibrate within, what we can do

695
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:59.199
<v Speaker 6>is we can start to become beacons for love, for compassion,

696
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 6>for hope, and for healing, and we can actually start

697
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 6>broadcasting a signal instead of being part of the problem

698
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 6>where we're just absorbing and then amplifying the distress.

699
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<v Speaker 1>That's really interesting, and I'm just kind of thinking of

700
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>all my life experiences and how many people are probably

701
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>in the same boat that I'm in that are just

702
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of opening up or I'm not even really realizing

703
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.559
<v Speaker 1>this now, and so many things are clicking. For example,

704
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>like my parents split up when I was very young,

705
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.599
<v Speaker 1>but my father was very much you know, don't make

706
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, don't be so emotional, blah blah blah.

707
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>But when anybody, including my father, even now had any

708
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of life issues, who's the one they talk to

709
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 1>and who's the one that hangs up the phone crying?

710
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 1>And so I was thinking about you know all you're

711
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.159
<v Speaker 1>speaking and just how you know it shouldn't only be

712
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the sadness that you hold. I'm like, well, and this

713
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.159
<v Speaker 1>is not like I'm not tooting my own horn, but

714
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I have been told hundreds of times that when I

715
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 1>walk into a room, it lightens up, that I bring

716
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>happiness and joy, and I think maybe I'm just getting

717
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 1>those little bits in everybody and just reflecting that out

718
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.039
<v Speaker 1>that it's not me, it's their own joy that they're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, too, dead horn, baby, because you have a light

720
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 2>about you. You aren't on this planet and you're bringing

721
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 2>that energy with you wherever you go.

722
00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 6>I can absolutely see it. And this is my first

723
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 6>meeting with you, Karen, but I can feel your glorious

724
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 6>heart and I can completely see your beautiful light.

725
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>That have confirmed it six people maybe have confirmed it,

726
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>now a lot of people have confirmed it. So eventually

727
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 2>you're going to decide to believe what we're all telling you.

728
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 3>Eventually.

729
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 6>Well, and you know, you say something that I think

730
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 6>is so incredibly important because so often we really do

731
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 6>have to fake it till we make it an act,

732
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:28.400
<v Speaker 6>as if we have to take the words of the

733
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 6>people we love at face the people that we love

734
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 6>and trust, not the ones who are gaslighting us, but

735
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.519
<v Speaker 6>the ones who we really do love and trust at

736
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Speaker 6>face value, and go if they believe in me, maybe

737
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 6>they can see something that I am too distressed to

738
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 6>see right now, but maybe I can go with that

739
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 6>and just really living with knowing that we are enough,

740
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 6>that we are a beacon for love, that we do

741
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 6>have a mission, that we are here and actually, and

742
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.679
<v Speaker 6>recently I've been I've been starting to do what I'm

743
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.519
<v Speaker 6>calling the Fairy Godmother Apprenticeship program with a number of

744
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.239
<v Speaker 6>people who I've been working with and mentoring, and where

745
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 6>it's all about not just fixing the problems and focusing

746
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:06.880
<v Speaker 6>on the problems, but taking it to the next level,

747
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 6>which is how do we share joy in a world

748
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:12.480
<v Speaker 6>that is so focused on so externally focused on issues

749
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 6>and problems. And I think that's another part of it,

750
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 6>is like we do. While I am not a fan

751
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:23.079
<v Speaker 6>of spiritual bypassing or lightwashing or ignoring the major social

752
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 6>issues that are going on in our planet right now,

753
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 6>I do think that we have a tendency as a

754
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:32.119
<v Speaker 6>species to perseverate on all the wrong things and not

755
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.159
<v Speaker 6>give ourselves permission to feel pleasure, to play, to have fun,

756
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 6>to go for delight, and if anything, Like Karen, your

757
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 6>job in my job is to radiate love and to

758
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:47.119
<v Speaker 6>share joy, to share a pleasure, to share fun, and

759
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 6>to help people flip the switch so that they're not

760
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 6>just sinking in despair because you know, I've been really

761
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 6>getting the sense of like, At the same time that

762
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.320
<v Speaker 6>we have people who are aged in just abs salute,

763
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 6>abject terror, and agony, we also have a mother who

764
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 6>has just been handed her brand new baby, who is

765
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 6>falling in love for the first time. We have people

766
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 6>who are having their first like they have fallen in

767
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:15.719
<v Speaker 6>love and they're you know, haven't They're getting it on

768
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:18.840
<v Speaker 6>for the first time, and that ecstatic reunion of like

769
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.480
<v Speaker 6>I just found my boo, I just connected. We have

770
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.440
<v Speaker 6>people who are performers, who are musicians, who are out

771
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:29.639
<v Speaker 6>in the world in stadiums experiencing the ecstasy of an

772
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 6>entire stadium of thousands and thousands and thousands of people

773
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 6>grooving with their music and feeling it. We have people

774
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.559
<v Speaker 6>who are dancing. We have you know, football players and

775
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.480
<v Speaker 6>other athletes who are doing their optimum performance, who are

776
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 6>winning awards and championships, and who are just elated. All

777
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.880
<v Speaker 6>of this is going on at the same time. And

778
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:51.880
<v Speaker 6>yet so as a society, you know, turn on the

779
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 6>news and find out what's wrong. And so I think

780
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.119
<v Speaker 6>that for those of us who are highly sensitive empathic,

781
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 6>it's really important to start trying to feel the joy

782
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.960
<v Speaker 6>that is in the world as well as feeling or

783
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.079
<v Speaker 6>acknowledging the sorrow.

784
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:07.559
<v Speaker 3>Wow, there's so much talk about on this topic.

785
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.239
<v Speaker 6>No, I know, this is one of the conversations that

786
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 6>can go on and on.

787
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 2>And you're right before we start recording, You're like, we're

788
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 2>not gonna have any problem.

789
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Filling out the time. So you're absolutely right. We might

790
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 3>have to go along. But I do want to talk

791
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:21.079
<v Speaker 3>about your book, because your book brings a.

792
00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 2>Lot of practical, tactical knowledge and tips on how to

793
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>handle this stuff.

794
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 3>Again one more times called empathic mastery, but it is.

795
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 6>Called empathic mastery a five step system to go from

796
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 6>emotional hot mess thriving success.

797
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And in the book you really do a deep dive

798
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:38.480
<v Speaker 2>on each one of those steps. I mean it's a

799
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:40.559
<v Speaker 2>wonderful book. But one of the things that I've heard

800
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned as I was researching is that you should

801
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 2>try to stay away from processed sugar. Yes, what does

802
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 2>that have to do with empathic abilities?

803
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:53.000
<v Speaker 6>Okay, so sugar, this is so let me see if

804
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 6>I can try it. So, sugar is an endocrine disruptor

805
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 6>in the sense that you know, insulin is a hormone,

806
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 6>and when we are consuming large amounts of carbohydrate, we

807
00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 6>are basically disrupting our hormones. And if you are a

808
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 6>human being, but especially if you're female, and you've ever

809
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 6>experienced PMS, you know how much our hormones impact us.

810
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Now, hold on, don you I have experienced it, but

811
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 3>from the other side.

812
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 6>Of the Yes, but you know too, you know too.

813
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 6>And the thing is that there are you know, we

814
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 6>don't necessarily think about insulin as a hormone. We don't

815
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.760
<v Speaker 6>necessarily think of but when we are, sugar is something

816
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 6>that will cause our blood our blood sugar. It will

817
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 6>cause our system to spike with really high blood sugar

818
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 6>and then crash with really low blood sugar. And our

819
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.199
<v Speaker 6>bodies are not meant to process a lot of sugar.

820
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.719
<v Speaker 6>Our bodies like as a species, we didn't like even fruits.

821
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 6>We're not really like easy to access like up until recently.

822
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 6>Sugar is a very modern concept. It was a very

823
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 6>very special treat until very very recently. And the problem

824
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.599
<v Speaker 6>is that sugar influences and affects our blood. Sugar our

825
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 6>and it deeply, deeply imp our mood. But it also

826
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 6>compromises the bacteria the flora that grows in our gut.

827
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 6>And essentially there is more understanding that our gut has

828
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 6>the same cellular makeup as the gray matter of our brain.

829
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:17.239
<v Speaker 6>And there's a sort of you know when people talk

830
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.840
<v Speaker 6>about trusting your gut, that's because there's a deep connection

831
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.519
<v Speaker 6>between the gut. We're pointing at my head. There's a

832
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 6>deep connection between the gut and the brain.

833
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 3>That's a strong connection there.

834
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.480
<v Speaker 6>That's strong connection there. And the thing is that when

835
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 6>we are food, we feed our gut unfavorable foods that

836
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 6>contribute to or help unfavorable flora to grow in our gut.

837
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 6>We develop what it's called gut dyspiosis. And as we

838
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 6>develop gut dyspiosis, what happens is we throw our entire

839
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.280
<v Speaker 6>system out of whack and we cause we compromise the

840
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:58.039
<v Speaker 6>integrity and the literal sort of like filtering system of

841
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 6>our internal gut. And so, if you have ever heard

842
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 6>the saying in metaphysics as above so below or as

843
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:09.159
<v Speaker 6>within so without, when we compromise the the filters and

844
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 6>the sort of extremely resilient internal lining of our gut,

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<v Speaker 6>we are not only compromising our internal gut, we are

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<v Speaker 6>also compromising our external filters and shields. So, sugar is

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<v Speaker 6>something that affects us deeply emotionally, and it affects us

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<v Speaker 6>and it affects us also very much physically. And so

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<v Speaker 6>what I have found is that while there certainly are

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<v Speaker 6>exceptions to the rule, and there are some mpaths who

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<v Speaker 6>are way more physically resilient and able to kind of

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<v Speaker 6>get away with it, or they're just so much younger

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<v Speaker 6>that their body has not reached that sort of critical mass.

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<v Speaker 6>But in my experience, once you start talking about people

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<v Speaker 6>getting into their mid twenties and beyond, the more sugar

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<v Speaker 6>you concern consume, or the more and the more sort

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<v Speaker 6>of processed carbohydrates you consume, because you know, like whitebread

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<v Speaker 6>turns into sugar, the more compromised your gut becomes, and

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<v Speaker 6>the more compromised, your entire hormonal system becomes, and the

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<v Speaker 6>more disregulated one becomes. So I have found that stopping

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<v Speaker 6>sugar is actually one of the very it's it's one

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<v Speaker 6>of the most important things we can do. But what

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<v Speaker 6>I will say is that if you do not have

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<v Speaker 6>healthy alternatives in place, and you just go cold turkey.

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<v Speaker 6>In the same way if you ever quit smoking, and

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<v Speaker 6>you know that, like when you quit smoking, it's sort

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<v Speaker 6>of like all your stuff comes up. If you've been

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<v Speaker 6>using sugar to self sued, then the challenge is that

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<v Speaker 6>unless you've got some kind of other way to take

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<v Speaker 6>care of yourself and support yourself, it is going to

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<v Speaker 6>really excuse can I say, use it, use it letter word.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it's going to really suck.

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<v Speaker 6>It's gonna really suck, like to okay, I but I

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<v Speaker 6>just wanted to be sure that you know, I could

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<v Speaker 6>believe me, I could drop the fom all over the place. Actually,

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<v Speaker 6>I have a friend who is a friend who crochetes

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<v Speaker 6>bombs with the word F on them. So I'm getting

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<v Speaker 6>a set of purple crocheted f bombs during podcasts and

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<v Speaker 6>Facebook lives and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then that gives you a roadmap Cairn right for

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<v Speaker 2>how you need to live your life moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got the five steps.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to know more about how to get

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<v Speaker 2>a grip on stuff and pathic mastery, the book is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nobs tell it like it is guide written

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<v Speaker 2>specifically band paths.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have to figure out what it's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>No, Nope, tell me directly.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a nobs tell it like it is and

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<v Speaker 2>it's written by an mpath who cracked the code on

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<v Speaker 2>how to handle it. So if you recognize any of

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<v Speaker 2>this in you, I would urge you to check out

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer's book. We're going to add a direct link to

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<v Speaker 2>it in our show notes. So if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this on the radio, all you need to do is

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<v Speaker 2>go to Skeptic Metaphysition dot com, go to her episode

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<v Speaker 2>page and just click the link.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be that easy for you to find it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're listening it to on your phone right now,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the little I on the corner that gives you

902
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<v Speaker 2>the show notes and you will find the link there.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even need to leave your couch. So you

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<v Speaker 2>have given us so much to think about. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>Karen her life has now been changed. So thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for taking the time to share your expertise

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<v Speaker 2>with us, because it's something that we've been wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>tackle for a long time and something that I think

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<v Speaker 2>will help Karen and a lot of folks who are

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<v Speaker 2>listening right now at all crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not yeah crazy. If I can just say, I'd

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<v Speaker 6>love to say two things. One is that in addition

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<v Speaker 6>to the book, I also have a free Facebook group

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<v Speaker 6>where I offer a lot of support. I teach master classes,

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<v Speaker 6>and you can learn more about that by going over

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<v Speaker 6>with the show notes and everything, because I would really

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<v Speaker 6>you know, my mission is to help other highly sensitive,

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<v Speaker 6>empathic people to understand what they are, why they feel

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<v Speaker 6>the way they feel, and to really turn it around.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just want to say, Karen, my heart, I

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<v Speaker 6>know what you I really can identify and relate with

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<v Speaker 6>what you're going through, and that it does get better.

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<v Speaker 6>I promise it can get better. You are not crazy,

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<v Speaker 6>You are not making stuff up. You are and you

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<v Speaker 6>are like and for a reason. You are here for

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<v Speaker 6>a reason, and you are part and I really believe

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<v Speaker 6>that you and the rest of us, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the empathic tribe that is rising up in the world

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<v Speaker 6>that we are here to be part of the solution

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<v Speaker 6>and to help birth a new world where things can

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<v Speaker 6>be better. So you guys, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 6>having me on this time is whizzed by Sure. Oh

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<v Speaker 6>my god, what an amazing conversation. It has been such

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<v Speaker 6>a pleasure to talk with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, we feel exactly the same way, and we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to add all of those links directly on our

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<v Speaker 2>show notes so that you have a way to connect

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<v Speaker 2>not just find her book, but also connect directly with Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's her Facebook group or on her social media accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Will have all those links on our show notes, so

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<v Speaker 2>feel fee to click goes and connect with her directly. Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 2>once again, thank you so much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We look forward to maintaining contact with the Petens.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you absolutely, yes, please.

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<v Speaker 3>A huge thank you to you.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that there are tons of options out there,

947
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<v Speaker 2>and having you decide to come along on our journey

948
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<v Speaker 2>of discovery with us is an absolute honor for us.

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<v Speaker 3>We hope you've enjoyed this conversation as much as we have.

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<v Speaker 2>If you did and you feel called to give back,

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<v Speaker 2>we invite you to visit our website at Skepticmanaphysition dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>where you can donate to the show or subscribe as

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<v Speaker 2>a member through our buy me a Coffee campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>Your support will go a.

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<v Speaker 2>Long way towards allowing Karen and I to bring you

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<v Speaker 2>these wonderful conversations and teachings in more and.

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<v Speaker 3>More robust ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's all for now, we will see you on

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<v Speaker 2>the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician.

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<v Speaker 3>Until then, take care,