WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:12.519 There are typical scenarios found in many criminal cases. A 2 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:16.760 crime is committed, it's discovered, investigation occurs, and it gets solved. 3 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.640 From there, it goes to trial, where it's followed up 4 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:24.760 by convictions and sentencing. But what if an individual who 5 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:29.039 was involved in the investigation was responsible for the actual 6 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:33.679 crime in the first place, could they get away with it? Well? 7 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.439 In the case of Candace Hilts, it is highly theorized 8 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:42.759 that a local deputy who investigated the case was pulling 9 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:46.640 far more strings behind the scene than anybody could have 10 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.079 ever guessed. 11 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.399 My name's Ben, I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked 12 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.280 and Grim, a true crime podcast. 13 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:28.200 The following audience listeners, It's Wicked and Grim Friday. How's 14 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:28.599 it going. 15 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:30.840 Yeah, we've been doing this for a few weeks now. 16 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.840 We have been the two week episode releases. How you 17 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.120 guys liking it? Enjoying it? Is it too much? Is 18 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:41.079 it not enough? I'm curious, tell us tell us all 19 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:44.079 it just perfect? Maybe it's just right. Maybe could you 20 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:46.239 turn my head headphone volume up a little bit? It 21 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.719 sounds weird and my headphones to me. Sorry, but yeah, 22 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:51.760 the two week thing has been it's been good. For us. 23 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:54.000 It's been keeping us busy, that's for sure. And as 24 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:55.760 far as I can tell, everyone else likes it. So 25 00:01:56.680 --> 00:01:58.159 you didn't turn the volume up? What are you hear 26 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.680 this volume control? I have no idea I turned you 27 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:03.879 up over here. That's the audio gain for my mic. 28 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:05.719 I don't know what the hell I'm doing here. 29 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:09.120 All that's way better? Oh, little lower, little lower? There 30 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:11.520 we go, perfect? Okay, God, I couldn't hear like anything 31 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:12.439 out of my headphones. 32 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:16.360 Did you know I have gotten such minimal steps today? 33 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:18.080 I just looked at my fit bit and it's actually 34 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:18.960 quite embarrassing. 35 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.800 How many steps? Three thousand? Wow? 36 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.479 I even like went out and shit, so is this 37 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:28.400 thing broken? Maybe what's going on here? 38 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.159 Maybe I got to reach over and turn the volume down. 39 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:33.400 So I can't believe this three thousand. I definitely got 40 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:36.719 more than three step three thousand steps? Huh. I was 41 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:40.680 out working with Defense Electric today dropping some names, doing 42 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.039 some video. So yeah, cool, Yeah, it was good. It 43 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:43.599 was a good time. 44 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:45.719 Maybe I shouldn't have skipped the gym today. 45 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:47.199 Maybe you shouldn't, But do you want to know what 46 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.240 else is a really good time? Gym? Of course? Is 47 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:55.439 this is a really good time. Yeah, it is. Yeah, 48 00:02:55.439 --> 00:03:01.120 it was also another thing, it's a fantastic good time, 49 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.560 is going to be on Saturday where we're doing a 50 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.240 live stream over on Patreon for our month and case. 51 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.240 The exclusive case is going to be a live stream 52 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:14.680 PST noon Pacific Standard time. 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Maybe 75 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.519 we'll even drop drop some price in the last week 76 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.480 or so before we retire these ones. Who knows, we'll see, 77 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.480 but yeah, go ahead and take it is. There are 78 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.240 some good ones in there. I'm gonna have to order 79 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:38.560 some shit, I will say. Some of these ones that 80 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.439 are being retired, it doesn't mean that they won't eventually 81 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:45.240 come back, but they're being retired for now. They're going 82 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.800 to the vault. Okay, the Jacko ones, the exclusive ones, 83 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.319 those ones are retired for good. But these ones, they 84 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.680 may come back one day or maybe a different iteration 85 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:53.319 of it, who knows. 86 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.800 My all time favorite one is the like skeleton hens 87 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.319 cheers cheersing with like wine and Scotch. 88 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.800 It's just it's perfect. See I'm kind of partial to 89 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.240 just like our logo. Yeah, I like that one. You 90 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:06.040 do like that one? 91 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:10.759 I do too, But why did you stop and stare 92 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:11.639 at me weird. 93 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.360 Because it sounds like you're going to say something else. 94 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:17.240 I do too. But and then but what. 95 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:19.879 I I don't know. 96 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:21.920 I wasn't going to you do too. 97 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.560 Those we're really awkward, and I was off guard. 98 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:30.000 I was awkward anyways, awkwardness aside, Are you ready for 99 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.480 today's case of Candice Hilt? Have you heard of this one? No? 100 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:37.319 You know what? I don't hear of shit? Apparently, What 101 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:39.920 do you mean apparently? I just like, I don't know. 102 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:41.759 I sometimes think I live in a bubble and I 103 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.240 just I should know more true crime cases than I do. 104 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.120 Well, we research two different cases a week. We hear 105 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:52.959 about many cases. It's it's not a pastime for us 106 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:55.399 much anymore to really dive into true crime. You know, 107 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.759 it's a bit more work. So, I mean, in our pastime, 108 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:01.800 in our in our downtime, in our extracurricular we don't 109 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:06.199 watch a whole lot of like Netflix crime documentaries anymore. Yeah, 110 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:08.319 I know, I do a bit, but not much. I 111 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:09.639 think I've said this. 112 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:12.560 I just like listen to audiobooks mostly in my pastime. 113 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:14.839 Yeah, so I can't blame you for not keeping up 114 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.879 on the latest and great Well, I won't say greatest 115 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:20.480 but the latest of true crime, because I don't really either, 116 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:24.399 and I honestly I rely heavily on listeners and Patreon 117 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.879 to fill us in which they constantly thank Goodness for them, 118 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:30.720 which I actually that reminds me. I got to get 119 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:32.879 back to Larissa, who messaged me about a case and 120 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.759 asking me my thoughts. Yeah, so I Larissa, if I 121 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:38.879 still haven't answered you, if you're listening to this message 122 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:40.720 me again and call me out because I saw your message. 123 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.959 I just haven't got to it yet. My bad. Anyways, 124 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:47.639 Let's get onto this. Ka, I've die, I digress. Let's 125 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:51.120 do this. Let's do it, okay. So Candace Hilts. Candace 126 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.639 was born on December twenty second, nineteen eighty eight, in 127 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:59.480 Canyon City, Colorado. Now she lived here with her mother 128 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:04.319 or Sibl and father until unfortunately, would of course be 129 00:07:04.439 --> 00:07:12.519 the subject of today's case. Now, her father would unfortunately 130 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.160 pass away when she was only five years old. And 131 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.800 despite this early loss, life must go on, as they say, 132 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:23.079 and Candice would thrive. She was a star academically and 133 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:27.439 quickly gained a reputation as an exceptionally gifted student. Her 134 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.800 intelligence was so remarkable that by the age of eleven, 135 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.680 she was already tackling calculus, earning the title of a 136 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:37.360 child prodigy. 137 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.720 Wow, that is hard. Like I've taken freaking calculus. I 138 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.439 feel like I almost failed it, to be honest. 139 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:49.319 And almost every single other true crime podcast or YouTube 140 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.439 video that I saw regarding this case or doing my 141 00:07:52.480 --> 00:07:55.439 research and other people's opinions and stuff like that, everyone 142 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.920 makes a joke here about how they couldn't even do 143 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.000 calculus today if they tried. And I'm going to be 144 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:01.959 one of them, because I still use my fingers and 145 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.160 toes at times to do some math. So being eleven 146 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.319 and calculus is impressive. That's very impressive. 147 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.160 But I do feel like there's certain people that just 148 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:13.639 math comes or they like it, or it comes like 149 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:15.680 a little bit more naturally to them, right, like they're 150 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:16.560 just gifted with it. 151 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:19.680 I feel like, and she clearly is. Definitely it came 152 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:22.240 natural to her. Whether she was gifted or just enjoyed it, 153 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.920 I don't know. She was, like I said, a child prodigy. Yeah. Now. 154 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:29.120 Growing up in a household with brothers, Candace was often 155 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.399 described as a bit of a tomboy. She enjoyed many 156 00:08:31.399 --> 00:08:33.320 of the same activities as their brothers, like you know, 157 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:37.000 working out for example, that kind of bodybuilding sort of stuff, 158 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.639 but also had a fondness for more traditionally feminine things 159 00:08:40.720 --> 00:08:44.440 such as jewelry, particularly beaded necklaces, which she loved to wear. 160 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:47.559 Not going to say that like bodybuilding is a dude's 161 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.360 thing and not like woman's whatever, but it's just like, 162 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:52.759 you know, like traditionally speaking, there's yeah, you guys know 163 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:55.879 what I mean. So from an early age, Candace developed 164 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:58.960 a strong sense of justice. She was known for standing 165 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.559 up against bullies and always wanting to help that was 166 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.679 in need. To put it simple, she didn't take nobody's 167 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:07.759 shit like it. I like that a lot. Yeah, Her 168 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:11.399 ambition in life was clear. She dreamed of attending Stanford 169 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.759 Law School and aspired to one day serve as a 170 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:17.879 Supreme Court justice. By the time she was only seventeen 171 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.639 years old, she was already in her third year at 172 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:27.919 Birmingham University. You're kidding me, seventeen, third year at university, 173 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.399 and she had even at this point now been accepted 174 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.679 into Stanford Home. Accepted to Stanford at seventeen. 175 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:41.519 That's wild, hey, yeah, like how wow, Yeah, she's she's 176 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:42.120 a genius. 177 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:46.480 Well, yeah, that's incredible. Now. However, everything seemed to be 178 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:48.080 going great for her, but her life took a little 179 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:50.639 bit of a different turn than she expected when she 180 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.559 became pregnant. It was a difficult choice for her, but 181 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.399 at the time it was an easy one. She knew 182 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.919 what she had to do. She chose to prioritize her 183 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.480 a new role as a mother and care for her child. 184 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.799 So Candace decided to continue her education online so that 185 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.000 she could stay at home and care for her new 186 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.600 kid to come. Oh wow, Okay, now it may have 187 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:13.320 actually set her back academically, but she was already so 188 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.919 far ahead of her peers that if it were to 189 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.000 take a few years off, by the time she went back, 190 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:20.759 everyone else who she was like going to high school 191 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:22.600 with would now be caught up to her right and 192 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.440 she'd be right back on track. So it's not like 193 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:27.679 she's really actually losing at all. That's true. Yeah, that's 194 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.360 totally true. Yeah, So to her it really wasn't much 195 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.240 of a loss. She gets to, like, hey, raise her kid, 196 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.519 be part of the kid's life, be present, and then 197 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:37.159 go back to school and be right back on track 198 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.799 with everyone else. That's a win win in all honesty, Yeah, 199 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:43.399 it is so. In September of twenty fifteen, Candace would 200 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:47.320 give birth to her daughter Page. Now tragically though, Paige 201 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:51.000 was born with hydro cephalis, which is a condition that 202 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:55.399 causes an abnormal buildup of cerebral spinal fluid in the 203 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.360 brain's ventricles. Now, this is something we've actually talked about 204 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.919 a bit on the show before. I've heard this. Now 205 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:04.399 this condition can lead to severe complications, including brain damage, 206 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.679 development delays, and in some cases, can be life threatening 207 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.759 at young ages. Now, understanding the challenges that her daughter faced, 208 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.320 Candace dedicated herself to making every moment of Page's life 209 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:20.039 as joyful and as meaningful as possible. To Candace, each 210 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.440 day with Page was special, as if she was celebrating 211 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:25.000 her birthday every day. 212 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.559 Oh my gosh, could this lady be any more perfect? 213 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:31.360 Right? Could Candace get any more perfect? I don't think so. 214 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.200 Yeah, it doesn't seem. Wow, I'm amazed by her. 215 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:40.600 She's selfless, she wants to have a very fulfilling career. 216 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.759 She is a genius, super kind. 217 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:47.919 Like dedicated, medicated, Like yeah, we could go on here, yeah. 218 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:50.480 Like I'm already put to shame like easy, no problem, 219 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:54.600 She's just way better of a person all around. But now, Candace, though, 220 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.919 her worst nightmare would become a reality as Page would 221 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:00.759 pass away at the age of only seven years old. 222 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:07.639 Oh no, now, Page though, did actually outlive her mother, 223 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.200 as Candace would ultimately meet her end before her daughter did. 224 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:16.759 Holy shit. Yes, okay, I wasn't expecting this, but either 225 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.399 of these. We'll get to that soon though. For now, 226 00:12:19.480 --> 00:12:21.639 let's keep talking a little bit about who Candace. 227 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:22.960 Was like she would have been in her twenties. 228 00:12:23.360 --> 00:12:28.679 Yes, ah. Candace also had an older brother named James. Now, 229 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:33.879 James struggled with severe psychological issues. He had paranoia that 230 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:37.000 was so intense that he isolated himself from society so 231 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:39.879 much though, that he actually chose to live alone in 232 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.679 a tent in the woods a few miles behind his parents. 233 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:48.039 Okay, I mean sometimes that sounds kind of nice to 234 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.519 just like, fuck off, get a grid. 235 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.159 And blame me the fuck alone and I'm out. I 236 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.720 can appreciate that. Through and through yea. His mental health 237 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.679 challenges made it impossible, though, for him to hold a job, 238 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:01.240 made it impossible for him to maintain friendships or even 239 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:04.799 comfortably interact with his own family, but at the very 240 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:07.639 least he was close to home, making it easy for 241 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.399 his family to you know, somewhat kind of help care, 242 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:13.000 keep an eye on him. On him, yeah, well, not 243 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.440 so much check up on him, but it was easy 244 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.480 for him to come home if he needed some Okay, Yeah, 245 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.879 Now things with James only went downhill though, as his 246 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.919 condition worsened to the point where he no longer believed 247 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.279 that Dolores, which was his real mother. He never believed 248 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.519 that she was actually his real mother. He was suspecting 249 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:35.159 that she had been replaced by an impostor. Oh wow, Yeah, 250 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.440 so his condition was degrading. 251 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:39.080 Yeah, that's kind of sad. 252 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.840 So because of his fears, he avoided entering the family 253 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:47.759 home unless it was completely empty, and to accommodate him, 254 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.399 Dolores would leave a butter knife under a door mat 255 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.679 where he could like unlock a door or something like that. 256 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:54.720 I'm not too sure how he would gain access, but 257 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:56.639 she left a butter knife so he could gain access 258 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.960 to the house when people are away, so he could 259 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:01.639 like come in and you know, maybe shower, grab some 260 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.159 food or something whatever he needed. 261 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:05.440 Right, that would have to be quite tough for her. 262 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:08.080 It would be yeah. Yeah, I think it'd be tough 263 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:10.559 for the whole family, and I think particularly for her 264 00:14:10.960 --> 00:14:13.039 being the fact that, you know, her own son doesn't 265 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:17.399 believe that he's that she's really his mother. Yeah, that's 266 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:20.279 got to be hard. Yeah. Now, through all of what 267 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.200 was going on in Candace's life, she remained fiercely protective 268 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:26.879 of James, her brother, despite his struggles, she loved him. 269 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:30.799 She stood by him, always ready to defend him again sorry, 270 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:35.200 defend against those who might not understand his condition, being 271 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.559 on his side, just like a family should. So now 272 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.919 we know who Candace is, we know how she grew up, 273 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.120 you know what's happening here in her life, a little 274 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:48.240 bit about her family. So let's fast forward to August tenth, 275 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.159 two thousand and six. 276 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:53.399 Does she just have the one sibling then, just the 277 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:53.919 one brother? 278 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.960 No, She's got another brother, I believe. Yeah. So on 279 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:02.559 this day, Robert daw, a deputy from Fremont County Sheriff's Office, 280 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.519 came to the Hilts home and he knocked on their 281 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:11.159 front door. It was an unexpected visit, but he was 282 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.080 there to question James about some trespassing incidents in the area. 283 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.960 There had been some recent reports of someone snooping around properties, 284 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.679 and they suspected him of being the culprit. However, James 285 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.240 wasn't home, as he no longer technically lived there. He 286 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:27.320 was living a few miles out in the bush behind 287 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:29.519 the house and didn't know exactly where. It's like, well, 288 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:34.360 good luck, right, Yeah, so he wasn't home. So Deputy 289 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:38.159 DoD ended up speaking with Dolores, his mother, and Candace instead, 290 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:41.320 who were both home now. The conversation quickly grew tense 291 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.399 as neither Dolores nor Candace appreciated the fact that James 292 00:15:44.519 --> 00:15:48.200 was an immediate suspect without any proof pointing towards him. 293 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:50.759 It felt like the police were simply targeting him for 294 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:52.639 who he was and what he was struggling with. 295 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:55.360 Yeah, and it was kind of like an easy target exactly. 296 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:00.519 So Candace in particular was extremely defensive of her, as 297 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.879 I had already mentioned, and she immediately became angry with 298 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.399 the way that Deputy DoD was approaching the situation and 299 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:11.759 how he was acting towards specifically, even addressing Dolores when 300 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.159 they were there. As a result, the whole situation began 301 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.360 to escalate, and it did so to the point that 302 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.600 Deputy DoD even threatened to arrest Candace if she didn't 303 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.240 control her temper and calm the fuck down. 304 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:26.919 Oh wow, Yeah, this is escalating. 305 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.759 Which if there is one thing I've learned in marriage, 306 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:31.639 it's never tell a woman to calm down in a 307 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.919 situation like this because you well feel their wrath, which 308 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.120 is exactly what happened in this case. 309 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.960 She well to be fair, to be fair, to be fair, 310 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.120 I told you to calm the fuck down. I don't 311 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:45.960 think it would go very well for me either. 312 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.799 I think I think it would go better for you 313 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:51.480 than it would for me. I'm not saying this is 314 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.000 a detriment or a bad thing, because in this case 315 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.879 with Candace, like she was being a fucking badass. She 316 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.080 didn't back down. He was like calmed down. She's like, fuck, 317 00:16:59.120 --> 00:17:02.519 excuse me. She doubles down. Okay, I'm not meaning it 318 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.559 in a bad sense, don't get me wrong, because like 319 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.799 with Candace, like I said, she doubled down, and she 320 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:10.880 held out her wrists, and she fucking dared him to 321 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:18.039 arrest her. Yeah, do it? Do it? Yeah? Bad? Now? 322 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:20.759 Not only this, no picture this, So she's holding out 323 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.640 her wrists, she's daring him to arrest her, and she 324 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:26.640 also adds that if he does, she's going to be 325 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.640 talking to the rest of the police and be telling 326 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:33.559 them about how she's seen him accepting suspicious envelopes from 327 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:38.960 known drug dealers on the streets. Oh shit, So not 328 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:42.319 only is she like daring him to do, she's now 329 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.680 threatening him. She's got the back into it. Really. Yeah. 330 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.039 Now there is no evidence to back this claim though, 331 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.799 but there is. But there was not an empty threat. 332 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.920 Candace did claim she in fact has seen this happening, 333 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:58.960 So she has a shady potentially what we may seem 334 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.079 to have here. Yeah. So Deputy Dot at this point 335 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:05.039 was was pissed and visibly shaken, like visibly pissed and 336 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:08.000 angry by this whole confrontation. So he turned around and 337 00:18:08.039 --> 00:18:09.720 he left the house in a bit of a rage. 338 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.960 Now the incident wasn't exactly the most pleasant, to say 339 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:17.480 the least, and also not the most professional. Now, not 340 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:21.160 too long after this had all occurred, the Hilt's family 341 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:25.759 dog went missing. Now they didn't think too much of 342 00:18:25.759 --> 00:18:27.960 it at the time, you know, they it might have 343 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:30.519 been a tragic possibility of something occurring to the dog. 344 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:32.720 Like they lived a little bit like you know, out 345 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:34.319 in the woods, a bit kind of thing. I don't 346 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:36.200 know how much property they had or how far out 347 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:40.240 like dirt road, I'm not certain, but they did think, well, 348 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:43.559 it's a possibility, like a wild animal got the dog. Tragic, 349 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:47.759 but like, there's no suspicious stuff going on the red flags, 350 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:52.880 right except Candice was like, nah, something's fucking suspicious. 351 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.279 Okay, she doesn't like I kind of like her, Yeah, 352 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.039 Like she just like doesn't just I don't know, most 353 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:01.519 people just make ex right, but she's like, she just 354 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:03.759 seems like she trusts her gut and she's like, Nope, 355 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:06.440 something fucking happened to my dog exactly. 356 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:10.200 The timing to her was just like it's too coincidental. Yeah, right, 357 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:14.279 And I think that's what I mean. It's easy to 358 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.200 say in the position that we're in sitting here talking 359 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:19.119 about it, but in the outsider perspective right now, yeah, 360 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.319 it does seem fucking suspicious. Yeah it does. 361 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:23.519 But I honestly would I'm one of those people that 362 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:27.119 would probably just like justify it to like be absolutely heartbroken, 363 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.559 but probably justify it. 364 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:33.319 Now. Though I don't know the exact date that the 365 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.759 dog went missing, but my judgment it was probably the 366 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:41.599 next day after this occurred, Okay, Yeah, so if it's 367 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.359 another day, it would be a maximum two days after. 368 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:46.359 So it's either the next day or the day after. 369 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:51.240 But yeah, so this is all after that whole incident, 370 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:54.160 right the dog disappeared, and she's believing that this was 371 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.880 an intentional act, possibly a message or a threat directly 372 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:01.319 from her to the family. Right now, because of this 373 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:05.680 whole situation, the family was a bit on edge, Dolores, 374 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.240 you know, listening to her daughter talking about, you know, 375 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:11.000 like someone could have done this, it could be a threat. 376 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:14.000 She grew a little bit concerned about leaving Candace and 377 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:17.240 her now eleven month old daughter Page at home alone 378 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:19.680 in case something were to happen, you know, what if 379 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.559 someone is threatening the family, right Yeah, So when she 380 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.960 would go run errands, Dolores would ask a neighbor to 381 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:26.440 keep an eye out on the house and check in 382 00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:29.000 on Candace while she was away. Now, there are a 383 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:31.519 couple conflicting accounts about what happened on the day of 384 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:34.720 August fifteenth, two thousand and six, but according to the 385 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.200 neighbor who asked who was asked to check on Candace 386 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.319 when Dolores was out he went over to the Hilts 387 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.799 home and couldn't find Candace anywhere inside. The only sign 388 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:45.400 of life was Paige, who was crying in her crip. 389 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:47.960 Now concerned, the neighbor picked up Page and took her 390 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.880 to his house to soothe her until Dolores returned at 391 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:55.799 around three thirty pm. However, Dolores tells a bit of 392 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.839 a different story, and this is the one that's most 393 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:00.000 commonly talked about. So this is the one that I'm 394 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.200 going to say is the proper account, Okay, but there 395 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:06.039 are conflicting ones. Just want to point that out. So 396 00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.920 Dolores says, she arrived at home and she was met 397 00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:13.759 with a horrific scene. There was blood scattered throughout the home, 398 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:17.680 but no immediate sign of Candace. She panicked. She rushed 399 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.000 into the bedroom, where she found Paige still crying hysterically 400 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:24.319 in her crib. It was then that she noticed the 401 00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:29.599