WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:08.000 Hey, everybody. 2 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:10.960 Welcome to the Game and Former Show, a weekly podcast 3 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.960 covering the video game industry. Join us each and every 4 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.800 week for a discussion of the latest gaming news, reviews, 5 00:00:16.839 --> 00:00:20.079 and exclusive reviews with Game and Former staff and special 6 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.920 guests from around the industry. I am your host, Marcus Stewart. 7 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:27.719 I am joined by Charles Hart. Hi. 8 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:29.719 Ho, Charles the Heart here. 9 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:36.320 Oh my god, it's Kermit the Heart. What was that noise? 10 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:36.799 That was? 11 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:37.920 Oh? 12 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.359 That was when just when I laugh, I just kind 13 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.399 of make that sound. It's like a it's kind of 14 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:43.640 like I'm choking a little bit. 15 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:47.039 Oh okay, Well, that's good to know someone I hopefully 16 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.159 is in better shape. Eric van Allen, Hello. 17 00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:53.079 I didn't know we were supposed to be doing voices today. Brother, 18 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:55.280 I can't. I can't do a bane on command. I 19 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:56.520 gotta like work my way into it. 20 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:57.079 Oh. 21 00:00:57.439 --> 00:00:59.280 At first, some reason, I was really certain you were 22 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:00.960 Magneto from the X Men. 23 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:05.120 There's a small difference between them. It's just one is 24 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:06.920 like to me, my X Men, and then the one 25 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:08.680 is three or my x Man. 26 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:13.400 It's not a Sean conneriness to it. And that I 27 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.439 was trying to figure out which Muppet you were doing, 28 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:17.439 like which muppet sounds like Sean Connery. 29 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:20.439 Yeah, well that's a crazy take on miss Picky. 30 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:24.480 That's like a delta of like Sean Connery, Magneto and Baane, 31 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:26.640 you know, and you just kind of like pivot around. 32 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.079 That sounds like every I can't even say high schoolers 33 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.280 because Sean Connery really ages a lot of people, but 34 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:35.519 that sounds like a Venn diagram of what like someone 35 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.599 of a certain age considers like pinnacle coolness is like 36 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.159 the intersection of those three names. 37 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.040 You gotta put like Sonic the Hedgehog on there somewhere too, 38 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:48.079 because there are there are a lot of people who 39 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:54.040 they even shadow the Hedgehog shadow. That's the coolest thing 40 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:55.040 I've ever seen. 41 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.000 That's the person that has a boon a Boondock Saints 42 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.719 poster hanging in nerve room. Back when that was like 43 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.840 the definitive like I'm cool and I love cinema and 44 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:06.959 no disrespecting boot doos ants. I think it's a good movie. 45 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.759 But there was an and I say this to someone, 46 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:10.919 I had a poster that was like the era of 47 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:13.840 like I'm showing how cool I am because I like 48 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.879 the Boondocks Saints, I had a Fight Club poster in 49 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:18.159 my college dorm room. 50 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.280 What I want to make a joke come out. I 51 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.639 never had a poster. But that's also in that. 52 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:27.120 You gotta what you call it, the most flanderized version 53 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:28.080 of yourself for sure. 54 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:33.240 Well everyone, we hope everyone is living their best life 55 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:35.039 as well. We're gonna we got a bunch of games 56 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.680 talk about. We're gonna be talking about Fire Emblem, Fortunes, 57 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:43.360 Weave sixteen sixty six Amsterdam Marvel Tocon Fighting Souls, as 58 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:45.360 well as a one point zero launch of Fields of 59 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.960 Mystery up. But before we do that, you know, the 60 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:50.280 best way to support Game Informer is by getting yourself 61 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.719 a Game Informer magazine subscription. That's right holding up the 62 00:02:53.759 --> 00:02:56.360 magazines here if you're watching the video version. 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And yeah, like I said, 85 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.240 is the number one way to support us and help 86 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.240 us continue to do what we do. Gamiforma dot com 87 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.240 slash subscribe. What is that, Eric, Nintendo moving into HD 88 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.719 big news. Yeah, they're finally doing it. That was the 89 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.959 big feature in the Revelations issue was talking about Nintendo's moving. 90 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:19.040 That was like, I'm not kidding you. I think that's 91 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:22.000 the first article in the magazine past Like the toc 92 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.800 is Nintendo moves into HD like this is huge news. 93 00:04:27.720 --> 00:04:30.120 Well, you know what else is huge news is Fire 94 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:35.360 Emblem fortunes Weave. We had a Nintendo direct recently sort 95 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:38.839 of laying out uh, kind of its big sort of 96 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.839 gameplay and narrative layout, breaking down to game systems, talking 97 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:47.079 about the apparently the real plot of this game, just 98 00:04:47.120 --> 00:04:49.839 the game where you're controlling four different kind of champions 99 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.920 and as sort of like Roman gladiator esque competition called 100 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:58.319 the Heroic Games, I believe, and uh, sort of like 101 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:02.360 in reality being this kind of like future character who 102 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:05.560 is like manipulating the events of this tournament in the 103 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:09.399 future to kind of help prevent and incoming apocalypse of sorts. 104 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:13.720 But uh, Eric, you've been checking this game out, you 105 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:16.439 know more about it than probably any of us here. 106 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:18.199 How what do you think of Fire Emblem and what 107 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.399 can you share with us so far about it? 108 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:23.720 Yeah, it's it's Fire Emblem. I'll tell you that up front. 109 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:27.959 It is as somebody who's played a lot of these 110 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:32.560 games coming into this. I started with Fire Emblum on 111 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:34.879 Game Boy Advance, you know, the first one that came 112 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:38.040 over to the US, and I've loved the series ever since. 113 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:43.079 And I was going into Fortunes. We've kind of wondering, Okay, 114 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:46.040 what is the what's the setup, How's it gonna work. 115 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:47.759 Is this going to be more of a three houses 116 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.120 type game. Is this going to be more of a 117 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.519 traditional fire emblem. Is it going to maybe find the 118 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:57.720 middle ground like Fates and Engaged kind of did. And 119 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.920 the answer is is just a lot. It's a really 120 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.720 really big game in ways that I can't even start 121 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.000 to tell you about because of the restrictions of our 122 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:11.839 preview window Embarco, but Firemlin Fortunes weave like they showed 123 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.600 in the direct the setup is that you are going 124 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:21.040 back to change the causality, change the events that would 125 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:24.199 happen in order to build up your forces against this 126 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:27.240 great evil. And that is kind of your framing device 127 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:30.439 for how you end up working with these four lords 128 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:35.800 who we know are Kai, Theodora, Dietrich, and Letta, and 129 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:39.759 they all kind of have different approaches reasons why they're 130 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:44.600 in the heroic games. And the cool thing is playing 131 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.120 through this stuff. You do play as the lords. You're 132 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:53.639 playing through their stories through their eyes with the future 133 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:56.839 timey stuff kind of used as a framing device for 134 00:06:56.920 --> 00:07:02.439 you to jump between them or to offer insight, offer foresight. 135 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.959 There's there's kind of ways that your character ends up 136 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.160 giving them help in some ways. Usually it's through this 137 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.759 kind of mechanic in the game called the Pale Ravens Perch, 138 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.120 where you go and talk to this this bird who 139 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.519 gives you foresights about an incoming battle that kind of 140 00:07:19.560 --> 00:07:22.480 gives you a hint towards what the end of chapter 141 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:24.600 battle will look like so you can build up your forces, 142 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:27.240 but the actual playing of firem unfortunes weave. So I 143 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:29.519 picked Kai because he. 144 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:32.800 Seemed like like is either like happy go like the 145 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:34.079 kind of like plucky kid. 146 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.879 Yes, he's he's the plucky kid. He's very gone from 147 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:41.279 from Hunter ex Hunter coded like he is he's there 148 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:43.160 to have an adventure, And I was like, cool, this 149 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:46.759 seems like a really good protagonist type character to start with, 150 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:54.560 versus Dietrich is basically just Ala card from Theodora. Is 151 00:07:54.639 --> 00:08:02.319 this like war warrior, queen conqueror hype? I don't know 152 00:08:02.399 --> 00:08:05.040 a ton about her. She seems really interesting. I'm mentioned 153 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:05.959 she's wonder woman. 154 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.720 If we're gonna keep assigning other characters to these people, 155 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.560 is she is she like Amazon. 156 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.959 Like like Dom wonder Woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because. 157 00:08:14.600 --> 00:08:16.560 She's got a little bit of just wonder Woman. 158 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.759 Yeah, Eric, there's a little bit of Ivy from Soul 159 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:24.240 Caliber in there. She has this really cool like not 160 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.519 bionic arm, but like just arm that that where her 161 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:29.800 powers kind of flow from, because all the four lords 162 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.840 have these blaze arts that are their superpowers that kind 163 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.080 of give them their edge over all the other units. 164 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:42.720 And Kais is from a like a pearl in his hand, Dietrix. 165 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.600 I actually don't know where Dietrix comes from because I 166 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.600 haven't like played as him yet. There's probably information out 167 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:51.879 there speculation as to where it comes from. But Theodora 168 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.879 has the the arm like this this giant arm that 169 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.080 she can use to like throw rocks and stuff like that. 170 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:00.720 And then Leta has the uh I forgot the name 171 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:02.320 of the universe. 172 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:06.600 Yeah, it's almost, but it's like, yeah, the Spanish Spanish. 173 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:07.000 Loot type thing. 174 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.039 Yeah, it's It's got kind of like a Flambanco tune 175 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:11.240 to it, and she'll like strum it and then it 176 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.360 can kind of do different things depending on what she 177 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:16.559 opts to do. I think in the direct they showed 178 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.120 uh summoning the beasts and stuff. 179 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:19.440 Like that. 180 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.320 I haven't seen the totality of what that is yet, 181 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:25.080 and I'm being very coy because I've really just stayed 182 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:29.840 focused in on playing Kai's Path because the way the 183 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.720 game takes it is you can jump between paths if 184 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.840 you want to, or you can focus in on one path, 185 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:36.440 and it just kind of gives you an option to 186 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.600 do what you want to do. And I can't talk 187 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.480 about the overall structure of the game too much, but 188 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.720 I like that in this game, you know, Three Houses, 189 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.639 I really loved for the way it made you make 190 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:50.799 a choice and said, you've got to make a choice, 191 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.360 live with the consequences. Who are you willing to put 192 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:57.480 your weight behind and fight for ultimately? And I thought 193 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:00.159 that was a really really cool thing and let to 194 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:02.759 some really differing routes with differing outcomes that had a 195 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:05.480 lot of emotional impact. I know that there are also 196 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.840 probably a lot of people who played Three Houses and 197 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.840 were aching for some sort of golden route, some sort 198 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:16.120 of way to see everything and do everything and have 199 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.840 everybody on your side, et cetera. I'm not sure if 200 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:21.279 that exists in Fortune's Weave. But the nice thing about 201 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.919 Fortune's Weave is that if you hop into a lord's 202 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.080 story and you get three chapters in and you're like, 203 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.679 I don't really know if I'm vibing with this or 204 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:32.200 I actually kind of want to go see what's going 205 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:34.080 on with this other character, or maybe it ran into 206 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.440 that character once I got to Dagson, which is the 207 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:40.399 main city where the heroic games are taking place. Which, 208 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:42.679 by the way, the hero games, like you said, gladiatorial 209 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.879 combat where the winner gets their wish granted. It's very 210 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:48.279 holy Grail war coded. 211 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:49.879 Twisted metal. 212 00:10:50.559 --> 00:10:53.600 Yeah, yeah, twisted metal. Yeah, my favorite face day night's 213 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:59.360 been off twisted metal and yeah, everybody's fighting for their 214 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:03.080 dream to be fulfilled, their wish to be had. I 215 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.960 only know what two of those are. I know what 216 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:10.720 kaises which Kai? Yeah, I can talk about this. Kai 217 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.919 wants to get his dad out of prison. His dad 218 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:17.799 has been imprisoned for capital r reasons that happened in 219 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:21.159 the story, uh, and he wants to get his dad out, 220 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.080 So he's fighting in the games for that, alongside his 221 00:11:23.159 --> 00:11:26.279 childhood friends Tiala and Peter. Peter, by the way, one 222 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.000 of my favorite characters, just because everybody else has fantasy names. 223 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.480 It is like a fantasy warrior and then there's little 224 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:36.399 Peter with his bo just trying to not die is 225 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:40.159 just like Brad and Beast and reincarnation of like yeah, yeah. 226 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.840 It's like the Adventures of Elliott. Like it's just like 227 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.320 that's just a name. What the heck? 228 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.840 I love the vibe of just a dude in the 229 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:51.000 coliseum who's just like, I'm just trying not to die. 230 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.480 You know, I don't really know what I'm doing here. 231 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:57.639 Yeah, Peter, don't want to ask. 232 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:02.960 Referring to the characters as lords, yes, are they lords 233 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.679 like they become lords or are they all going into it? 234 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:07.639 They're like lords of some area already. 235 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:11.440 I might even not be using the technical term for 236 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.679 it in game. Lords is kind of a colloquial term 237 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.480 that gets used in the Fire Emblem community for these 238 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.159 are the like if you play firemlanm the Sacred Stones, 239 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:26.480 f Raim and Erica are the lords of that game, 240 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.039 or like Lynn is a Lord of the original or 241 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.360 fire Emblum seven but Fire Emblem on the GBA that 242 00:12:32.480 --> 00:12:34.600 sort of the ike is a lord. It's just kind 243 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:39.399 of a designation of this is a main character sometimes 244 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.759 of some kind. They might have the Lord class, although 245 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:44.600 I have not seen a lord class, but that it's 246 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:46.519 kind of just a helpful designation to say, like, these 247 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:49.159 are the focal viewpoint characters. 248 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:51.039 So that's when I use that, that's i I refer 249 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:51.399 to it. 250 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.200 I think in the Nintendo direct they call them champions. 251 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:56.840 Yeah, that'd be another way to put it. Because the 252 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:00.039 way it works is you enter the Heroic Games and 253 00:12:59.879 --> 00:13:03.519 you make a clan as like a team, and they 254 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:06.879 all have names, and you compete in these matches. The 255 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:10.279 early matches are basically just qualifier matches where they have 256 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:13.679 you kind of working with or against other teams to 257 00:13:13.879 --> 00:13:16.679 determine like who is the strongest and all that, and 258 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.440 so you get to kind of see all the different 259 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.440 characters and meet them and stuff like that, so you 260 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.320 get an idea of what they're doing before you go 261 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.399 into that. So with Kai, we form the clan of 262 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.279 Ribera Wins, and it was made up of like Kai 263 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.840 and his two childhood friends. But then as the game 264 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:35.120 goes on, you can recruit more characters through you build 265 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:37.440 up renown, which is kind of a meter that's like 266 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:41.720 as you do quests, as you achieve things, even as 267 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.639 you do stuff in the game that's considered like building 268 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:48.320 your prestige, building your perception amongst those and DAGs in 269 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.799 and around the games. It'll build your renown and then 270 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.080 you hit certain renown markers that will open up more 271 00:13:54.279 --> 00:13:56.399 activities for you. It's kind of the gate for some 272 00:13:56.480 --> 00:14:00.559 of the more complicated and involved mechanics in the management 273 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.519 side of the game, and then also opens up recruitment 274 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.840 for other characters alongside support, which you can do support stuff. 275 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.159 You can talk to character characters, you can give them gifts, 276 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.159 you can eat meals with them, you can do things 277 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:14.840 like that to kind of build up your support and 278 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:18.960 rapport with characters, eventually getting support conversations, which are classic 279 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:23.360 fire emblem two characters talking, story builds up between them, 280 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.279 see how their friendship grows. Each character kind of has 281 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:30.000 different levels of supports. I have some characters that have 282 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.559 tons of supports that I can unlock. It looks like 283 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.120 some characters that only have like two or three. 284 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.720 I was like, I don't know if they have supports. 285 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.240 You mean like they have options of people they can 286 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:41.600 talk to. 287 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:42.840 Yes, yeah, yeah. 288 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:46.840 It's it's interesting because that is depending on what FIREMM 289 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:48.600 you play. There are a lot of characters who it's 290 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:52.080 like this character can have supports with tons of characters, 291 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.639 and this other character only has like a few And 292 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.039 that's a pretty common thing, especially depending on whether the 293 00:14:58.120 --> 00:15:01.159 characters are really story critical or if they're just kind 294 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.639 of an optional character you could get. I still don't 295 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.600 have a sense of how important some of these characters 296 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:09.559 I get are throughout the story, because some of them 297 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.399 are definitely core to the story, work alongside the lords 298 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.879 or champions and work with them, and it seemed kind 299 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:21.879 of core to who they are. Other characters kind of 300 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:24.799 just seem to be drifting through. You know, here's here's 301 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:27.960 this guy who's a gladiator and he's just going to 302 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.720 help out because you need somebody who can swing swords 303 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:34.039 and you can recruit him if you need that. Or 304 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.559 there's another character that was like I was going into 305 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:39.759 a chapter where I was like, I could really use 306 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.279 an archer. I don't really have a lot of Peter, 307 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.080 who's kind of my main archer, but I could use 308 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:46.399 a secondary archer, you know, if I run into a 309 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.799 situation where I need range or to deal with flyers 310 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:51.759 or something. And character opened up, it was like, hey, 311 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.240 you can go recruit this character if you want. They're 312 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:57.759 an archer and I was like, cool, awesome, thanksgame, and 313 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.679 Anna a longtime Firemolm series stay shows up to kind 314 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:05.279 of give you some direction on that and gives you 315 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.240 this kind of board for every cow. We're getting into 316 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:09.600 a lot. Okay, so this is a really big game. 317 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.879 Between matches, between like chapter matches and stuff, there is 318 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.799 free time where you can spend your time however you want. 319 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:19.879 You have a certain amount of turns and each turn 320 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.679 is like a segment of a day, and you have 321 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:24.759 a certain amount of time between your matches where you 322 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:28.000 can go train. You can go talk to characters, like 323 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:30.720 I said, give them gifts, eat meals with them, try 324 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.360 to recruit them, things like that. You can also just 325 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:37.039 go explore the world map outside Dagson and go running 326 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:42.279 around and farm resources, travel through dungeons. They brought back 327 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:45.679 the dungeon mechanic from Fire Embalm Echo Shadows of Valencia. 328 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:48.840 So you have kind of a small party and it 329 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:50.559 almost it will remind a lot of. 330 00:16:50.480 --> 00:16:51.320 People of metaphor. 331 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:52.840 They will see this and they will be like that 332 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.600 looks like metaphor, and like, yeah, it kinda is like 333 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.279 metaphor in some ways. Where you're in these very scaled 334 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:04.559 back JRPG style party battles against other people in the dungeon, 335 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.799 and it plays more like a traditional party RPG than 336 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:10.559 a tactical RPG. But then you also have tactical RPG 337 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.559 battles on the map as well. You have quests you 338 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:16.519 can undertake for renown and rewards and things like that. 339 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.880 There are other towns you can go to to visit 340 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.519 to get items. You can find merchants on the map 341 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.599 that will give you rare things. Some merchants only operate 342 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.480 on a barter system, so you have to trade them 343 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:29.440 certain rare items to get certain rare items in return. 344 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:34.400 There's so much in this game that I think the 345 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:39.640 really interesting thing for me is that you kind of 346 00:17:39.680 --> 00:17:42.640 have to juggle a lot of different systems early on, 347 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.680 and it starts to make sense the deeper in you get. 348 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.720 But I think the first few chapters where they start 349 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:52.680 dumping all this stuff on you is a little overwhelming. 350 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:53.279 At first. 351 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:55.640 I was returning to the tutorials a lot. I was 352 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:57.400 having to look at the menus to be like, Okay, 353 00:17:58.039 --> 00:17:59.839 if I need to do this thing, or I need 354 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:01.960 to find this thing, or I need to look for this, 355 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.240 how do I find that? And there are a lot 356 00:18:05.240 --> 00:18:07.640 of quality of life things that have been baked in 357 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:09.200 to help with that, but you do have to kind 358 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.359 of go find them. My hottest tip is that when 359 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:15.720 you're looking at the city map and you tab over, 360 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:17.680 you can see a list of all the characters that 361 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:20.279 you have met already, and not only will it let 362 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:22.200 you fast travel to where they are to go talk 363 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.000 to them, but it will list their requirements for recruiting. 364 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.559 So if they need like support level two and renowned 365 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.519 level six or something like that, it will tell you 366 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:32.400 that on there, so you don't have to make a 367 00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:35.720 spreadsheet like I did tracking all of that. It is 368 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:41.240 in the game already that you madadsheet. 369 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:44.279 I my you know's you though? Yeah? Yeah it. 370 00:18:44.480 --> 00:18:46.880 It did feel kind of cool to make because I 371 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:48.519 just had this big thing and then I could sort 372 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:50.920 it because the nice part was I could sort it 373 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:52.680 and then I could be like, Okay, well I'm at 374 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:55.200 renowned level three, but now I know that when I 375 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.519 get to Renowned level four, these are the characters that 376 00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:58.799 will open up and I need to be at this 377 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:00.759 support level with them, so I need to start working 378 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:01.720 on their supports now. 379 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.359 And yeah, I love a good spreadshet You don't you 380 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:05.720 know you're pretty Yeah. 381 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:07.640 Yeah, there's there's a lot of people out there who 382 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:09.400 might be listening to this and being like, Eric's a 383 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:11.720 crazy person, and then like four people who are like 384 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:15.079 that that makes brain gobert. And let me tell you this, 385 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:16.400 This will make your brain go bert. 386 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.880 But you don't have to. There's people like me that 387 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:21.519 are like, oh my gosh, I don't want to go spread. 388 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.359 Yeah, that was that was the part of the direct 389 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.000 when I showed people how to open up microsoftic cell. 390 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:28.200 Yeah, it comes with a free Microsoft extent. 391 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:30.880 You imagine the Sakarai presents where he teaches you how 392 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:35.240 Google sheet works. That's what I'm talking about. But I'm 393 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:37.559 enjoying it. It's it's really really good. I think it's 394 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:41.599 good Firemlum. I think the the largest hurdle to overcome 395 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.480 so far for for your traditional firemlum fans, because there 396 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.440 is always kind of different parties in schools of thought 397 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.400 about a fire emline game and how it should be, 398 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:54.559 is that there are kind of the traditionalists who love 399 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:59.039 those sorts of fire emblem of of your who want 400 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:04.640 a more campaign driven, uh you know, durability driven challenge 401 00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:07.000 to get ready for this actually because I knew I 402 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:09.960 was likely to cover this game in some way, I've 403 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.119 been playing the old fire Emblum's on game Boy Advance 404 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:17.759 just to kind of recenter myself and get back to, Okay, 405 00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:21.759 you know, where where did my history with this series start? 406 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:25.839 And also remember kind of how Firemlum has changed over 407 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:30.839 the years, because even from Firemblum seven on the GBA 408 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.039 to FIREMLM Awakening, there's a pretty big difference in changing 409 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.759 mechanics and things like that. So the interesting thing has 410 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:40.359 been that it's cool to see the ways in which 411 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:46.079 fortunes we've kind of ducks around certain trends and and 412 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.839 things that have been true in FIREMBLM for a while, 413 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.640 like there's there's not really a weapon wheel. There's and 414 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.279 that's not new for fire Emblum. They've they've been toying 415 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.160 with the idea of getting rid of that or just 416 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:01.200 moving it more into the background with each new entry. 417 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:05.799 But there are ways in which using certain weapons or 418 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:08.599 how they can turn tune that from certain classes having 419 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.440 access to certain weapons, or what those certain weapon classes 420 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:15.240 can do that others can't. For example, like lances often 421 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.680 have a higher priority against mounted units. In general, they're 422 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:21.440 better against mounted units, and so you know that even 423 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.920 though lances aren't going to be within a traditional triangle, 424 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:25.400 you know that if you're going into a map with 425 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.039 cavalry probably want lances. 426 00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:30.279 It's still cool to see that. 427 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:32.799 And there's even some you know, combat arts are here, 428 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:34.680 so there's a lot of playing with durability in that 429 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.440 way where you can spend that durability to amplify your attacks. 430 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.960 But then if you run out of durability on the weapon, 431 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.759 it becomes a lesser version of itself. It doesn't break, 432 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:45.759 you still have access to it, it's just a worse 433 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:50.640 version of it. And there's been some really smart overall, 434 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.680 just kind of like congealing of the different fire emlms here. 435 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:58.920 In a lot of ways, this feels like a combination 436 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:01.240 of a lot of fire emblems over the years of 437 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.519 having all these different mechanics, all the the resource management 438 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:07.559 and out of battle stuff that you saw in Three 439 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:12.960 Houses School arc in having the maps, which the maps 440 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.759 are kind of a I've had a few maps that 441 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.680 are really really like and are standouts to me. They 442 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:21.960 mostly happen within the coliseum, which should not surprise you, 443 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.000 whereas the maps you kind of get into on the 444 00:22:25.000 --> 00:22:28.599 fringes on the outside of the city. You see a 445 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.720 lot of them. They're very small, very fast battles. They 446 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:34.319 almost remind me of playing Firemlam Heroes in a way. 447 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:36.200 If you ever played that one. Oh yeah, that's the 448 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:40.880 Mussile game, right, No, No, that's Fireball Games. Yeah yeah, 449 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.240 Firemlam Heroes. The mobile game which was Fireblum scaled down 450 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.160 to just four on four I think that was what 451 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.119 it was when I was playing it, and just very 452 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:54.599 small maps and very quick battles. Some of the fights 453 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.880 on the outskirts of Dackson, where you're fighting on different 454 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:01.519 maps against you know, Brandon like bandit encampments or wild 455 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.000 animals or something like that, they kind of move faster 456 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:07.200 and they go faster because you don't want those to 457 00:23:07.240 --> 00:23:09.880 be the long drawn out epic battles. You want those 458 00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:13.880 to be the story battles, right, And so I like it. 459 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:15.680 I think it has found a really good balance of 460 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:18.160 how to handle all that stuff, and the theming of 461 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:20.759 the game is one that I really really have to emphasize. 462 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:22.279 They nailed. 463 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.880 This is such a good world. I mean, it's cool 464 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.000 that we're going back to I forget what the overall 465 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:33.400 world is called but three Houses virus. Yeah, because because 466 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.880 fire molm traditionally don't get at me fire more heads 467 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:39.960 if I'm wrong about this. But most gains, with the 468 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:42.400 exception of say like path of Radiance into Radian Dawn 469 00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:45.000 and stuff like that, are kind of their own entries. 470 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.759 But we are back in the world of Three Houses. 471 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:53.000 So Fodling was the continent to the north, Dagda is 472 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.920 kind of the larger area to the south, and we've 473 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:59.559 actually in Three Houses. We saw characters from this region 474 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.000 in that area. Now we're kind of down there, we 475 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:05.880 do see characters from Fodland. No, not specific characters. I'm saying, 476 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.400 like people from Fodland. 477 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:09.200 People are like, hey, I'm from here. 478 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.039 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Like oh I I was in 479 00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.680 a town and they they were selling Fodland tea that 480 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:21.839 they had imported from. 481 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:23.759 It to T shirts like Photland yeah yeah yeah, like 482 00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:25.279 like I heart New York shirts. 483 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.440 Yes, yes, I went to Gerrik Mack Monastery and all 484 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:31.880 I got was this lousy T shirt. 485 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:33.720 Yeah. That's really good. 486 00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.680 It's it's it's cool to see that because you get 487 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.920 a sense of a larger world. But also, I mean 488 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:44.039 just the music you can hear. I think one of 489 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.039 the smartest things they did for promoting this game was 490 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:49.079 to put some of the soundtrack on Nintendo Music, uh 491 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:53.519 that you could listen to early bangers banger tracks in 492 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:58.359 this game, like like non Alarmo, you can't listen to 493 00:24:58.440 --> 00:24:59.640 fire moment when you wake up. 494 00:24:59.720 --> 00:24:59.920 Yeah. 495 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.279 I don't know, maybe they'll add that, but I think 496 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.200 the theming of this game of taking this sort of 497 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.200 it's it's Rome with some Spanish influence and even some 498 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:15.079 North African influence and kind of that whole part of 499 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:19.079 our world. Yeah yeah, yeah, like like there's kind of 500 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.599 like a strip of land if you think about it 501 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.440 like that in that area that all of it is 502 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.079 combined together into this one locale and you have a 503 00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:30.440 lot of influences there throughout and you can even see 504 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.039 it as you move around the world map and you 505 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:35.559 see those different places and how they resemble that both 506 00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:41.279 in culinary, in sound, in just everything, and it's really 507 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.279 really cool. I think it really works, and it just 508 00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:45.079 adds that moment if you get into a fight in 509 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.599 the coliseum and the guitars start kicking up and there's 510 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:50.359 kind of just like a pace to it it like 511 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.960 it weirdly brings me back to like the Ridley Scott 512 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.920 Gladiator because there's even a dude that goes out into 513 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:01.039 the arena. Is like back in the year so and so, 514 00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.599 the great battle was held between this general and another. 515 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.759 Today we recreate this with our competitors and it's like 516 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:12.079 it it gets your blood going. You're like, yes, dude, 517 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:12.920 this is awesome. 518 00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:15.519 Do you think Marcus is gonna like this as a 519 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:21.079 like wrestling fan. Does it evoke any of that sort 520 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:22.000 of energy at all? 521 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.880 I don't know if it has wrestling in I guess. 522 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:29.319 It's like the spectacle of wrestling because it's so adjacent 523 00:26:29.359 --> 00:26:31.200 to I mean, if you really want to trace the 524 00:26:31.240 --> 00:26:33.519 lineage of wrestling, I mean like wrestling back in like 525 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.440 ancient Greece and Rome and stuff. 526 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:39.319 Then it really comes down to do you think it's 527 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.960 cool when this there's like this crew of ragtag heroes 528 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.640 trying to make it, trying to survive and then roaring out. 529 00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.880 There's like some chariots that come out and you're like 530 00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:52.640 and it's all dangerous and you're like, how do we 531 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:54.759 deal with these things? And you're having like band together 532 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:57.960 it Like I was thinking about the Ridley Scott Gladiator 533 00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:59.400 movie constantly while. 534 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:06.799 Playing scanned sequel. I'm sure, right, there's a sequel. I've 535 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.720 never I never I never watched the sequel. I was 536 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:12.400 like kind of interested in it, and then it just 537 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.359 fell off my radar, so I never got Okay, I 538 00:27:14.359 --> 00:27:15.920 think it'd be good research for this game. 539 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:17.599 Yeah, you're so right. 540 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.880 I gotta watch the second Gladiator as well. Yeah, Fireing 541 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.240 Blum Fortunes Weave. I think the slice that we've seen 542 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:27.599 so far has been pretty pretty cool. As a Firemlue fan, 543 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:33.000 I'm pretty excited for this one. Yeah, it's Fire Amblem. 544 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.160 Oh yeah, game comes out very soon. It's like next 545 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.079 it's a September release, right, one of the fifty. 546 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.319 You're saying very soon, we're still like a month out, 547 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:46.839 which in game release calendar time is still eons away 548 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.599 because there's so many I think of it in terms 549 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.519 of how many games between then and now, and there's 550 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.160 there's many mini games between then and now, so we 551 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:56.759 do have some time, but. 552 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.279 It feels about about five weeks from the day this episod. 553 00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:01.480 So it comes out okay. 554 00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.640 Like sometimes with game releases, it either is far away, 555 00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.839 but then sometimes it feels like it's tomorrow, because sometimes 556 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.440 it just releases just creep up on you. Yeah, you know, 557 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:13.279 having fun. 558 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:15.839 It's it's always there, you know, there's always new games 559 00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.960 coming out, in new things that we're seeing speaking of yes, Marcus. 560 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.599 And by the way, yeah, and by the way, off 561 00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.119 the top of you might have if you can hear 562 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.720 rain and thunder. That is on my end because I 563 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.839 live in Florida and it's the summertime and we get 564 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.839 a lot of that during this time. But I like 565 00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.960 to think it adds like a nice maybe like a 566 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.240 cozy atmosphere if you like that. But also I think 567 00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:39.359 it's great table setting because thematically it fits the next 568 00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:43.279 game about to talk about just sixteen sixty six Amsterdam, 569 00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.359 which I got to go see. I got to travel 570 00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:50.160 all the way to Amsterdam itself to go play an 571 00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.160 hour of this game, which on paper sounds insane to 572 00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:55.759 go to travel that far to play an hour of 573 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.319 a video game. But that that's out. Is this business 574 00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:03.880 be sometimes? But yeah, if you've heard of this game, 575 00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:07.519 it's been around for a long long time, And honestly 576 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.119 so I wrote through the new story when they re 577 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:13.079 revealed this game during some Summer games fest and in it, 578 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:14.960 I phrased it as if it was like a new 579 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.279 reveal because I had forgotten that this had been floating 580 00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:21.039 around since like the early twenty tens. But in a way, 581 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.039 it still works the way I framed it, because I 582 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.200 think this is still it the first time it's ever 583 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.440 had like a formal reveal, Like I think it had 584 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.240 just been known by name as a thing that was 585 00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:32.599 kind of maybe happening in the background, but never had 586 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.599 like it never progressed far enough to get like a 587 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.000 full proper reveal back in the day. I guess, like 588 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.599 short recap. This is the next game by Panash Digital Games, 589 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.880 which is the studio led by Patrese de Sila, who 590 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.400 you might know that name as he's kind of credited 591 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.039 as one of the principal creators of the Assassin's Creed series. 592 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.400 Formally at ubisof he was the director of Assassin's Creed 593 00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.279 one and two and was one of the lead writers 594 00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:02.160 on Assassin's Creed Brotherhood when he left Ubisoft under less 595 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.039 than great terms, and this game was sort of something 596 00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:08.160 he conceived while he was at Ubisoft, Like he's told 597 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:11.119 this story before where he took a family vacation to Amsterdam, 598 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.759 came across a building that had a marker that said 599 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.359 Anno sixteen sixty six, and sort of like the spark 600 00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.319 of an idea of setting the game or making a 601 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:23.039 game set in the seventeenth century in the city was 602 00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:24.960 something that he had been wanting to play with. And 603 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.880 we actually, you know, Patrice was on this trip and 604 00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.079 part of the preview beat was that we took like 605 00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.480 a two hour city tour where we just walked around 606 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.240 with him and a local historian and he's just kind 607 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.359 of like they're pointing out buildings, and some of the 608 00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:40.279 buildings are in the game, and then some just sort 609 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.279 of like took some thematic inspiration. But he took us 610 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.839 to the Anno building and he talked about how originally 611 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:46.720 he was like, oh, it'd be cool to make an 612 00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.079 Assassin's Creed game in Amsterdam, which makes sense because he 613 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.160 was still at UBI Soft. Just because of the architecture 614 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.680 and you know, like it's if you've ever seen or 615 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.920 been to Amsterdam, like it is nothing but just like 616 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:01.160 rose and Rose and Rose of like built like very 617 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.640 narrow but tall buildings. A lot of them have very 618 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.519 like crooked facades kind of like in some cases intentionally. 619 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.480 In other cases, it's because Amsterdam is built on basically 620 00:31:10.519 --> 00:31:13.480 swamp land, Like there's a lot of river ways, Like 621 00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.079 it's very much like I think the nickname has it's 622 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.759 the Venice of the North End because of that building 623 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:23.000 started to sag under the saturated earth until they were 624 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.599 reinforced with more modern means over the years. So it's 625 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:27.480 just got like a it's got a funky look to 626 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.359 it that kind of makes it ideal for like setting 627 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:32.720 up cool sort of like open world sandbox to like 628 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:35.039 run around in h He never got to do that 629 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:38.319 with Ubisoft because he left went to go to TCHQ 630 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:42.480 in Montreal and where he kind of started working on 631 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.039 the game. Then THHQ went out of business and then 632 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.759 funny enough, Ubisoft bought THHK Montreal, So I mean he 633 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.680 was brought back into Ubisau, but then he was immediately 634 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.559 terminated when he came back, and there was a whole 635 00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.240 legal battle that kind of spun off from this because 636 00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:03.000 they terminated him. But the IP and depending on who 637 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.680 you listen to on both sides, Patrese kind of ash 638 00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:08.759 said that, hey, they basically tried to steal my idea 639 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.880 and didn't want me there. Would be off, kind of 640 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.519 said the opposite, and he kicked off like a year's 641 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.519 long legal battle that Patrese won and got the rights 642 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.559 back to the game. And fast forward many years later, 643 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:23.839 he's been working on it since twenty twenty and now 644 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:28.039 it's about to launch in early access August twenty fifth. 645 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:33.160 So yeah, a lot of a lot of turmoil surrounding 646 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.559 this game, and after playing it for an hour, I'm 647 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:42.680 I'm like cautiously hopeful that'll be worth it. The synopsis 648 00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.519 is that it's actually set it's set in sixteen sixty six, 649 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.759 but it's actually taking place over the course of three periods, 650 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:49.960 which is it's pretty appropriate coming from the guy that 651 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:55.440 made Assassin's Creed the sixteen sixty six Like main Eras 652 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.720 has he controlling a witch named Noah who is kind 653 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.519 of a newiated into her well say coven. I think 654 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.640 they're they're called the Zandaris, and she has the role 655 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:07.920 of a collector, which is like a very specific but 656 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.599 important role in the faction, where she is tasked with 657 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:18.240 hunting down these entities called originals, which are these beings 658 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:21.079 that a long long time ago in the game's lore, 659 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:26.880 the Zanders had given specific humans this ancient magic called 660 00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.640 nucks with the idea of like, hey, this is really 661 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:32.359 gonna help humanity. We're gonna only pick the people that 662 00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.599 we think are most worthy to have this, but it 663 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.279 basically gives them these powers, and I guess also allows 664 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.680 them to kind of live almost forever, it seems like. 665 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.680 But then I wound up backfiring because the longer that 666 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.960 these people had the nucks, it began to corrupt some 667 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.720 of them to where they just became more or less 668 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.039 monsters than are now like threats to humanity and so 669 00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.160 and I guess also they've just spread throughout history. We 670 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.519 are you gonna say, Charles. 671 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.759 Well, when you say monsters, are we talking like they're 672 00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.000 doing really bad things? Are you talking like they literally 673 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.480 transform into like a monster. 674 00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:13.039 Or physical monsters or like, uh, not performative monsters, but 675 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.920 like action based monsters, a bit of both. 676 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.440 Like there's one point of demo where you do confront 677 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.119 an original and granted this guy is actually like cool 678 00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.039 with you, like he's he's like nice and has worked 679 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.679 with the Zaan Dares, but you also need to collect 680 00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.800 his power. So when you when you do that, it 681 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.679 like manifests this like weird shadow creature that you have 682 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.679 to fight God. So yeah, I guess it's it's kind 683 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.760 of both. And so this kind of kicked off like 684 00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:44.559 a generation's long cycle of like, Okay, we need to 685 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.880 take back the power that we've given these originals. We 686 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.480 need to train someone specialized in doing that, because the 687 00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.880 problem is that the originals just look like people and 688 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:55.199 they just blended into society over the century. So we 689 00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:57.440 need to figure out how to find them and then 690 00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.400 confront them and then basically kill them more less and 691 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.800 get their power back. And the way to do that 692 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.199 is that you need like their original name, because some 693 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.079 of them been alive so long that they've just you know, 694 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:09.679 just assumed different identities. 695 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.000 They have changed names. Yeah. 696 00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.800 Yeah, there's like a seal that they have that's tied 697 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:17.519 to them Genie to find and then you just need 698 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:20.440 to get like a visual like identity of them, like 699 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.760 what does this person look like? So you are going 700 00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:26.639 around as this switch and like a like an open world, 701 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.199 but it's not like a big open world because Panash 702 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.440 is not a huge team. I think there's roughly about 703 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.079 seventy people there. So, like Patrice described it as like 704 00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:37.159 Amsterdam itself, it is like a sandbox, but it's more 705 00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.760 dense than it is wide. For example, Like one of 706 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:42.519 the cool things about the game is that he he 707 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:44.760 and a team are making sure that every single building 708 00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:47.840 can be explored inside like the interiors. You can just 709 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.719 walk into any building, and because of just the way 710 00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.599 Amsterdam's laid out, there's like multiple floors that you can explore, 711 00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.519 and that kind of like level design choice will play 712 00:35:56.559 --> 00:36:00.519 into a feature I'll discuss later. But Noah has a 713 00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.960 partner who is a cat. And the thing about this cat, 714 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.840 who kind of becomes basically her familiar of sorts, is 715 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.920 that it has the consciousness of a man from nineteen 716 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.440 ninety nine who is named Aaron, and sort of like 717 00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.760 on New Year's Even nineteen ninety nine, he and his 718 00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.960 partner go to Amsterdam to celebrate the New Year's It 719 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:24.360 turns out his partner is actually a modern day zam Daris, 720 00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:29.599 and he kind of like unwilling or unwittingly, engages on 721 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:34.519 like a sex ritual with her that sends his consciousness 722 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.079 back to sixteen sixty six inside of a cat on 723 00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.039 the night that Noah is initiated as a collector, and 724 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:43.800 so as part of the initiation like, hey, you need 725 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.480 to pick a cat, which is actually like a gameplay choice, 726 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.679 like there's multiple different cats you can choose from, and 727 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:52.360 each cat has like different gameplay sort of like differences 728 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.400 that weren't unlocked in the bill that I played, but 729 00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.360 Patri said in the in the early access build, the 730 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.960 cats will have like a difference between them. But you know, 731 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:04.159 he gets transported there, he has no idea where he is. 732 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.119 Noah knows this, like there's a point where he she 733 00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.360 encounters his like true self in this kind of voice, 734 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:14.679 so she knows that he's from the future. So he's 735 00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:18.559 very like understandably freaking out and confused about what is 736 00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:21.519 happening and why he's in like three hundred years in 737 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.239 the past. But it kind of forms is like kind 738 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.559 of fun dynamic between the two because you know, Noah's 739 00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:29.679 very stoic and kind of steadfast, and he's just like 740 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:33.039 he's just like a dude, Like when I like the 741 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.519 future to be like, what is happening here? This is crazy? 742 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.920 Magic is real. I've in sixteen sixty six here, You're 743 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.840 a witch. This is wild. And then there's a third 744 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.239 time period that, uh, did either of you guys play 745 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.920 the free prologue that they put out on Steam. Okay, 746 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.559 I asked, because this prologue is set in the third period, 747 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.280 which is seemingly like the present day, like the twenty 748 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:58.320 twenties where you play it as this woman named Cleo 749 00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.760 who visits this library because he got a letter from 750 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.320 her dad basically tasking her with finding some information from 751 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:06.920 a guy that she knows, like tied to like this 752 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.039 magical book. But it turns out that her father is Arin, 753 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:15.719 So future Aarin has left a message basically serving as 754 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.159 the narration for what happens during his adventure as a 755 00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:20.800 cat in sixteen sixty six. 756 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:24.199 You're rubbing your eyes, Charles. 757 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.440 Is he in the future? Is he like back? 758 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:32.880 It is anymore? Like, we don't know. 759 00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.519 I think we might assume he's not a cat anymore 760 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.880 because he wrote this, But I don't know magic who knows, 761 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.239 But they just because they treat him like he's either 762 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:42.960 missing or dead in the future. 763 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:44.880 Well, I was just gonna say, like, if he got 764 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.840 his consciousness sent back to be a cat, I guess 765 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.000 the part of the equation I'm missing is he could 766 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.239 have written it before he was sent No, that wouldn't 767 00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:54.559 make sense. 768 00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.400 He definitely wrote as well after because he addressed it 769 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:01.199 to his daughter. He's like, hey, this is something you 770 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:03.559 need to know. Here's what happened to me this one 771 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:06.119 time where I became a cat and got sent to 772 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.039 the past. But I need you to find some things 773 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:12.599 in the future because Cleo, just if you line up 774 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.280 the information, it seems like she was conceived during the 775 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.880 sex ritual that sends to the past. 776 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.440 That's where my question was that that was the sticking 777 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:22.920 point for. 778 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:26.360 Crazy, that the line she was conceived during the sex 779 00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:27.800 swittual made me an, Eric. 780 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:32.480 Go, these things happen, you know. 781 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.239 This is also like very funny, like from from an 782 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.840 original Assassine s creed guy, like he couldn't have the animis, 783 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:45.199 so there's a really convoluted magical thing of It's like, well, 784 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:47.039 it's the present, but it's also the past and it's 785 00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:49.320 also more in the present. And don't think about it. 786 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.639 We don't have the animus, but we have cats and magic, and. 787 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.440 It makes more sense than the animates because the animis 788 00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:00.519 was like a borderline magical machine, just like this is 789 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.320 exactly this is just magic at least just straight up magic. 790 00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:08.679 A h here, there's less explaining that has to happen. 791 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.599 If you just say it's magic, it's like, okay, that's fine. 792 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.559 If you say it's technology, then you're like, how. 793 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.880 Did you get all that tech? What does it do? Exactly? 794 00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:18.360 Like sequencing DNA makes me like basically relive someone's memories. 795 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.360 Is that how it works? That? 796 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.519 I mean, that is okay. I'm not going to get 797 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.960 into semantics, but I'm like that at least like has 798 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.960 quasi believability, whereas magic is just like I don't know 799 00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.360 man magic, and then everybody's just like cool. 800 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.280 I think I don't have to try to understand the magic, 801 00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:40.440 whereas you would have to understand that. 802 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.039 I mean not that you even have to understand. 803 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.800 You accept that we have thrown the bounds of reality 804 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.960 and we are completely entering made up time. 805 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:48.079 Yeah, exactly. 806 00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:49.800 It's like the animals, they try to have their best 807 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.840 to explain it, which only makes you scrutinize it more. 808 00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:56.000 Again, we still just end up doing magic. By Assassin's 809 00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.719 career is they're just like, yeah, we just do magic now, 810 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.159 and it's like yeah, fine, but so. 811 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.360 Yeah, So it's like three different eras. But the main 812 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:09.440 story is like the sixteen sixty sixth story so I 813 00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:11.599 played like an hour. Like the section I played for 814 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:17.079 the preview was like immediately after the prologue ends, where 815 00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:22.599 you are Noah, like you're you're doing your witch witch rual. 816 00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:24.679 It gets jumped by a bunch of militia who are 817 00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.239 witch hunters, and you get to try out some of 818 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.159 the combat, which is very if you've seen the trailers, 819 00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:33.719 kind of like very melee action coded, like, uh, she 820 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.840 has a staff that you're swinging around. It's like basic combos, uh, 821 00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:42.679 three hits, like dropped some It looks nice. It felt 822 00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:47.000 really a bit weightless in kind of this early build, 823 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.639 but it like looked cool. And then you also have 824 00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.679 a magic spells that you can use, Like the only 825 00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.079 spell that I had available during this demo was like 826 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:56.400 I could target certain ops just like crates and whatever 827 00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.840 and just make them explode, which were just like instantly 828 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.800 kill anyone that was nearby or at least heavily damage him. 829 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.119 If it was like a stronger enemy type, you're finding 830 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.199 like waves of enemies, which it was like a bit 831 00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.119 dated sort of like it reminded me a lot of 832 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:12.440 the old Assassin's creeds where you would just kind of 833 00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.760 have like enemies circling you, and they would like one 834 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.800 or two at a time would kind of take turns attacking. 835 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.639 So I'm hoping that gets changed a bit to maybe 836 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.360 feel a little bit more interesting and dynamic. But if 837 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.920 anything else, it felt like kind of nostalgic in a 838 00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:30.360 weird way of like this is what games used to be, 839 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:32.440 and like managing mobs used to be, Like. 840 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:33.880 Is there a counter button? 841 00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.960 Uh, there's a dodge. There's not a counter, but you 842 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.000 can do like a kind of like a perfect dodge 843 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.400 thing at the last minute that kind of like warps 844 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.239 her like behind her behind a which not which time, 845 00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:50.559 It doesn't show, it doesn't slow time. It's just sort 846 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.000 of like she just very quickly like just whists behind 847 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.880 them like she she she does like a very supernatural 848 00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.760 sort of like side step, like she's not like rolling 849 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.760 or anything like that. Does that make sense? But we 850 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:06.760 had a separate hands off demo with Patrice where he 851 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:08.480 was showing us more of the game and some of 852 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.599 the powers that he had in his build. Was like 853 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:13.920 she could petrify enemies, like turn them a stone temporarily. 854 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.760 She had one where she like summoned these weird like 855 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.079 tendrils from the ground and it just lifted enemies in 856 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:21.679 the area. Then you could just like wail on them 857 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.480 while they were suspended. So there's other things you can 858 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.400 play around with. And then when you get into the 859 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.920 into like the city proper, it opens up this other 860 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.920 part of the game that is like investigating the Originals. 861 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.920 And so this is like maybe the most interesting part 862 00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.239 of the game to me because it's very open ended 863 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:42.679 in terms of how you go about with your investigation. So, 864 00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:44.519 like I mentioned Foard, there's three things you need to 865 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:47.199 find from the originals to point them out, and how 866 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.679 you do that is a lot of like exploring buildings 867 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.360 and talking to people in the street and just trying 868 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:59.440 to find clues. So as Noah, you can switch between 869 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:03.440 her witch and her like civilian form, which is important 870 00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:06.360 because citizens won't interact with you if you're a witch 871 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.800 or they'll be scared of you. And there's like an 872 00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.039 awareness sort of like meter that builds up like kind 873 00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:13.320 of like if you want to be reductive. It's almost 874 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.679 like a GTA star system, where like the more sort 875 00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:18.960 of like questionable things you do, the more kind of 876 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:21.760 like of the wrong attention you start to attract. And 877 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.280 then if you fill up the meter, the militia comes 878 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.079 after you, and then you either have to fight your 879 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.760 way out or go like retreat to like a safe house. 880 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.639 But then he showed us a thing where like, oh, 881 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:32.679 if you get in a fight with the militia to 882 00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:34.920 kill you, they'll take you to jail, and then you're 883 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:36.840 like sitting in jail in almost like in a middle 884 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.360 gear fashion. You have to break out of jail, so 885 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.760 get Yeah, he said, He's like candidly, he's like we're 886 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:45.440 still working on the jail part of the game, like 887 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.599 because we're trying to figure out like, well, there'll be 888 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:49.480 like a penalty. 889 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.639 For like multiple incarcerations. 890 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.679 Like if I just get arrested three times straight, should 891 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:58.880 something happen or like yeah, yeah, like well I will 892 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.119 that be like a hard game over at that point 893 00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:04.039 or like you know that that part of the game 894 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.559 is still very much tentative. But you can also switch 895 00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.119 between Aaron. You can switch to him anytime because he's 896 00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.599 a cat, he's smaller. He can get into spaces that 897 00:45:13.719 --> 00:45:16.599 Noah can't, Like to get into this one building to 898 00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:20.480 find an original I had to use Aaron to do 899 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.480 some like platform and that very much reminded me of 900 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.000 stray and how like kind of like deliberate but graceful 901 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.800 it is, and find like an open window, slink in, 902 00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.639 go to the front door, open it up, and then 903 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.320 let Noah in and have her takeover. Aaron also has 904 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.159 the ability to possess people, which is pretty cool. So 905 00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.360 there's like the in game Lores that apparently people that 906 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:49.079 are afraid of cats are vulnerable to possession. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 907 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.599 It's like Charles will never be borne. He's a cat guy, 908 00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:52.960 so you'll never have this happen to you. 909 00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.239 But Aaron lives with a cat named after a ghost. 910 00:45:56.840 --> 00:46:01.199 Yeah yeah, I'm like double protected. So you guys are 911 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:06.079 basically witches. Actually not a thing about it, bulocks, but yeah, 912 00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:10.599 oh that's true, I guess. So. So yeah, so if 913 00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:12.800 you find a citizen that's afraid of you, there's like 914 00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.960 a whole mini game where you like hiss at them 915 00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.480 and then you jump on their face and literally scratch 916 00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:19.239 their face. 917 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:19.880 Yees. 918 00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.119 And that's like an important part of the rich because 919 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.360 even Noah apparently like she has a scratch in her 920 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:28.360 face from a cat, and like, I guess, cat scratching 921 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:31.280 you in the face is basically like the way you 922 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:34.360 kind of like interapact with them or to have like 923 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:36.880 a magical cat interact with you in some way, Like 924 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:40.440 I think it's kind of how Aaron became her familiar 925 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:42.199 in the first place. So there's a lot of like 926 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:46.719 face scratching going on in this game. But yeah, there's 927 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.320 one point where this is when Patrice was playing, he 928 00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.199 like possessed a woman because we needed to get into 929 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.159 a building that was like it seems like there's like 930 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:55.880 a party going on in there, but are like, Okay, 931 00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:57.760 Noah can't get in because she's not invited to this. 932 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.559 So Aaron, you go in there, that's one of the 933 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.199 people in there is like a housekeeper. 934 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:04.280 Then let Noah in. 935 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.800 And then because the housekeeper let Noah in, everyone's cool 936 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:09.800 with things like oh, I guess she was invited, and 937 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:15.039 like you can even take well, it's more just like 938 00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.760 she's not supposed to be here because this isn't her 939 00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.760 house or she's not invited to whatever this event is. 940 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.039 But you know, like hey, if I. 941 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.000 See yeah, it's like yeah, okay, okay, yeah. 942 00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:29.280 It's like if someone in the party lets someone else in, 943 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:31.280 everyone else in the party is going to assume that 944 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.639 they're supposed to be here. 945 00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:35.079 Yeah, Okay, I get for a second, I thought you 946 00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.360 meant that, like the character couldn't enter the building unless 947 00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:39.960 they were invited in, And I was like, that's a 948 00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:41.840 vampire rule, not a which rule. 949 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:44.639 I think that's just a rule. I think that's just 950 00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:55.119 how society works there. No but but so yeah, and 951 00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.679 there's in terms of the investigations, Patrice was saying that 952 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.440 you can kind of in terms of like the information, 953 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.599 you can gather them in any order. It just depends 954 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.239 like you can be loud or you can be stealthy. 955 00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.119 In fact, he even said that you can play most 956 00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.800 of his game outside of like the original the confrontation 957 00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.480 with the Originals. You can play it pretty non violently. 958 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.360 It's just like, okay, and then when you do find 959 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.320 an original and you kind of have all the information 960 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.280 you need, it triggers this boss fight, of which I 961 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:25.760 only got to see one against the sort of like 962 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:28.880 book Maker, who was actually like cool with Noah and 963 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:32.360 sort of like willingly gives his power to hurt as 964 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.079 like a debt to Noah's mother, but sort of like 965 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:39.440 the entity that I guess makes up the core of 966 00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:42.400 the original is sort of like this almost like rabid beast, 967 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.639 so like even though his like physical shell dies, now 968 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:47.880 you have like just the raw power that is just 969 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.599 kind of belevolent. And then I got into a boss 970 00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.480 fight with that that was pretty pretty basic, honestly, Like 971 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:55.920 it was it felt very much like the first boss 972 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:57.480 in a video game, just to get you used to 973 00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.000 the idea. Like it was just kind of like rampaging around. 974 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.960 It kind of just looked like a weird shadow creature, 975 00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.199 so it was like a good exercise in dodging and 976 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.159 knowing how to. They had crates and like junk set 977 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:10.880 up around the arenas. It's like, oh, I can target 978 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.280 those and blow those up when the monster gets near, 979 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:17.159 that'll be that'll do some damage. It's like fine, Like 980 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.679 it's it's not like the combat seems like like totally serviceable. 981 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.880 But the stuff that I'm most interested in that I 982 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:25.360 did not get to play myself is more of the 983 00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.800 investigation stuff, just because I like being able to take 984 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.840 in the city. I think the city itself looks really 985 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:33.920 nice so far, like just how they've kind of not 986 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:36.719 only captured it from like a realistic standpoint, but they 987 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.920 also have added sort of like a like something about 988 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.320 the graphical filter they're using. They're they're trying to make 989 00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.840 it look like a old Dutch paintings. There's one painter 990 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:48.639 and particulate that they cited. 991 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.239 Rand. I mean they did cite rem Brandt, but this 992 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.039 is off the top of my head. 993 00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.719 Yeah, I did go to Rembrandt's house while I was 994 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.320 in there, but I was not invite you in or Yeah, okay, 995 00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.159 he did not. I don't think he's invited anyone in 996 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:06.079 a very long time. 997 00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:12.199 That's the secret. Yeah, I want to say Vermire. 998 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:16.079 Yeah yeah. Uh, Like apparently there's something about the way 999 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.280 that the art direction that it's got a bit of 1000 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.400 a almost like a paintull equality that maybe you you 1001 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:24.559 really you don't see immediately in screenshot, but in motion 1002 00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.039 you kind of get a sense of it. But apparently 1003 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:30.000 that was like a very big artistic influence for the 1004 00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:31.360 presentation of this game. 1005 00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:33.000 Yeah. 1006 00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.519 Like my my overall impressions, like the game's cool, and 1007 00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.039 the setup and premise is wild in a way that 1008 00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:44.920 I'm interested in. Uh, but you know, this is not unsurprising. 1009 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.639 It was rough, like you know, there was no way around, 1010 00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:49.320 Like it was really rough in the state that it 1011 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:51.639 was in, but it was like a like I said, 1012 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.639 like an in development build of a game that is 1013 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:57.760 launching into early access. So I guess that's not crazy surprising. 1014 00:50:58.119 --> 00:50:59.920 I just hope that at least when it launched an 1015 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:02.760 early access, that it's a bit cleaner and more stable 1016 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.079 than what I played. But I think Patrice said in 1017 00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:07.920 the early access build it's supposed to have like the 1018 00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:12.559 game's first few chapters what she kind of described as 1019 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.119 like a substantial like chunk of the game, and that 1020 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.000 overall he expects the game to be an early access 1021 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.800 for at least the year, assuming that things go well 1022 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.360 and based on whatever feedback they get. But he said 1023 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.920 that pretty much the only thing that they're going to 1024 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.719 be working on is like expanding the gameplay and like 1025 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.679 finalizing a dialogue. But apparently the story's written and it's 1026 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:35.880 like mapped out, like they know where they're going with 1027 00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:39.159 this and whatnot, Like the rules of the world haven't 1028 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.880 been established in a lot of good stuff. One thing 1029 00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.039 I will note real quick is that there was one 1030 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.400 section at the end where I did jump back to 1031 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.360 nineteen ninety nine where just through story Shenanigans, you play 1032 00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:57.920 as Aaron after the ritual, but then Noah comes with you, 1033 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:00.960 but she's the cat now, so it's like again the 1034 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.199 roles were reversed. We're like, no, what's exploring nineteen ninety 1035 00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.639 nine as a cat because there's some stuff you have 1036 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:11.920 to do in nineteen ninety nine with Aaron And yeah, 1037 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:19.199 Eric's face is Yeah. Time traveling via cat consciousness is 1038 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:20.000 like a big I was. 1039 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:24.119 So sure that I had like the timeline laid out 1040 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.079 of my head. I was like really, it was like 1041 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.039 you're watching Memento and you're like, yeah, I know how 1042 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.199 this movie works, and then you get to one part 1043 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.360 and you're like wait a minute, oh no, and you're 1044 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.079 just no, there's a new wrinkle. 1045 00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:40.199 Yeah. I don't know how often this will happen or 1046 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.559 if it was just the one time thing this. 1047 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.280 They're swapping cats too. 1048 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:46.800 They're swapping cats. I guess it would be a different 1049 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.280 cat to be crazy. If this is the same like 1050 00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:50.679 three hundred year old cat that she's in'thappening. 1051 00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.199 I mean they're tied. 1052 00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:59.239 It's already where that's where we draw. Yeah, magic exctly, 1053 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:00.960 that's what magic's for. You just explained away like I 1054 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.519 don't know, man, It's a magical cat, magical immortal cat, 1055 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.280 But there was one I didn't mention this in my 1056 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:11.599 preview just because it was I didn't have like it 1057 00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:13.519 wasn't like a huge game play in theclation, but it 1058 00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:15.960 was just kind of a weird moment where this is 1059 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:18.000 where they kind of like properly teach you how to 1060 00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:20.840 possess people because you need to go. You need to 1061 00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.519 make your way down to the hotel courtyard to find 1062 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.760 an object, and there's like certain areas you can't access 1063 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:30.480 because you're it's for employees only. Also, Aaron's like in 1064 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.719 his underwear the entire time because he had just had 1065 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.480 sex and he just did a change because the situation 1066 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:40.559 is dire. Times of the essence, he just has to go, 1067 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:44.519 which he remarks about. But like as soon as the 1068 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:50.199 segment starts, they start playing free Bird, okay, like like 1069 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:54.159 straight the Lice, like the license song their starts playing, 1070 00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:57.119 and this entire segment where you have to make your 1071 00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:01.880 way down multiple floors and kind of like stealth your 1072 00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:08.000 way across like like curious onlookers the other hotel residents 1073 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.440 that are seeing like a man in his underwear just 1074 00:54:10.519 --> 00:54:13.960 randomly walking around and then you're switching to Noah to 1075 00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.280 get ahead and like a lot doors for airon to continue. 1076 00:54:17.639 --> 00:54:20.400 Free Bird is playing the entire time that this. 1077 00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:24.599 Is happening first half of Freebird or second half of Freebird. 1078 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:26.760 It's the start of the song. I think it does 1079 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:29.599 finish a song because I this was a long section, 1080 00:54:29.679 --> 00:54:31.480 and obviously it's a long song, but I'm pretty sure 1081 00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:35.000 I heard like almost the entire song by the time 1082 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:35.719 I wrapped it up. 1083 00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.920 Because I was going to say, playing a stealth section, 1084 00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:43.519 I would think that the second half of Freebird would 1085 00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:46.360 not match the energy of that dynamic. You know, I 1086 00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:49.239 can't imagine trying to like sneak through an area in 1087 00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:56.360 the backgrounds, Like It's like that would not tonally contrast 1088 00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.880 maybe the first part. That's still a weird choice. 1089 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:04.159 I would argue, no, it based on the just to 1090 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.880 get the premise. It's just like what what like I 1091 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.679 did a double take, was like is that what I 1092 00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:10.599 think it is? The opening notes of We. 1093 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:11.519 Couldn't get Layla. 1094 00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:14.159 We couldn't get like like the second half of Layla 1095 00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:17.039 or anything like that. We had to go with first 1096 00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:17.960 half of free Bird. 1097 00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.800 I don't know what's the like most occult band that 1098 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:26.719 would fit like a witchcraft game I mean, yeah, like 1099 00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.840 a Stevie Nick's Stevie Nick song on there. Yeah, yeah, 1100 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.360 I don't know, get ghost to do a song. I 1101 00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:36.400 get a ghost song in there, but yeah, but yeah, 1102 00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.719 that's sixteen sixty after sam it seems cool. Coustously optimistic. 1103 00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:41.719 I hope it gets cleaned up soon. But I like 1104 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.519 the premise. I like the world. I think it's I 1105 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.039 think there's something there, but it'll be curious to see 1106 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:50.800 how it just comes together over time in early access 1107 00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:52.559 all right? 1108 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.400 That was that was Yeah, it was to see some 1109 00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.000 footage of this game, because at the time of recording 1110 00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:03.519 we haven't and it just sounds so so wild. 1111 00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:05.159 I was gonna say, do you guys think you were 1112 00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.880 jumping into the early access bill checking out. 1113 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.760 Or honestly, like, do you want to I'm interested in 1114 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.639 the game and concept your description of it, I'm not 1115 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.599 sure you liked it all that much. Like you you 1116 00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.320 said you're cautiously optimistic. It just sounds like a lot 1117 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.559 of the stuff was very basic. The interest is more 1118 00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:27.840 in the world and the framing of the game than 1119 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:32.239 like the game itself. But the time travel Shenanigans is like, 1120 00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.840 I mean, I just got to figure out what the 1121 00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:35.199 heck is going on there? 1122 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:39.320 Yeah, I think you're I think you're mostly right, Charles, Like, 1123 00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:42.199 it's like did I in terms of like being on 1124 00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:46.519 the sticks playing the game. I wish I liked it more, 1125 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:48.039 but a lot of it had to do it polish 1126 00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:52.360 more than anything, sure cause, like the combat looks cool, 1127 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:55.280 it just didn't feel great yet hopefully it gets there. 1128 00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:58.000 And the investigation stuff I didn't get to do at all, 1129 00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:00.679 but watching Patrice play it, it's like, that's cool. I 1130 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:02.280 would like to mess around with that to see how 1131 00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:04.480 deep thatst system goes. Oh god, I forgot to mention 1132 00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:07.000 one last thing about the investigations. It's got like a 1133 00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.320 roguelike thing to it, which is something that they had 1134 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.599 not talked about until this point. Like when you take 1135 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.360 a contract to go after an original, you get like 1136 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.719 a choice of one of three randomized powers that you 1137 00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:21.320 can pick or like stat buffs, and then I guess 1138 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:24.199 throughout the mission you can find more abilities. But basically 1139 00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:27.880 every mission you'll have like a different suite of abilities 1140 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.159 that is like like kind of like roguelike in nature, 1141 00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:34.920 and I believe when you die you lose some of them. 1142 00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:37.679 But yeah, that was another thing that I did not 1143 00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.639 get to play, but Patrice was showing off and I 1144 00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.480 was like, oh, interesting, it seems like the roguelike stuff, 1145 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.920 Like this isn't a run based game over all on 1146 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:47.760 what people to think that the entire game is a roguelike. 1147 00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.519 It just seems to be these contracts to go after 1148 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:51.719 the originals. 1149 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:58.880 I I want to say this gently while holding of 1150 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.920 whoever is listening, that this feels like a Supreme Pizza 1151 00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:06.559 of gameplay ideas where we just kind of put whatever 1152 00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:11.199 on there. Sounded good, and that makes me really curious 1153 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:15.599 about what the final game is gonna look like because 1154 00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:17.800 there's just everyone you're like, oh, I think, I yeah, 1155 00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:20.119 that sounds like a game I've I've played or would play. 1156 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:21.519 And then you're like, oh, and it does this, and 1157 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.719 I'm like, what, It's like a. 1158 00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:28.400 Supreme pizza, but like like a smaller medium at like 1159 00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.239 in terms of like maximum size. 1160 00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:32.519 This is like those party supreme pizza. 1161 00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:33.159 Yeah. 1162 00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:35.920 Yeah, Like this isn't like a Crimson Desert situation where 1163 00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.719 it's like, here's like an absurdly large pizza that has 1164 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:41.679 every possible topping. It's like kitchen, It's like a reasonable 1165 00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.000 size pizza, but it's like dense with toppings. 1166 00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:48.280 Okay, okay, more topping than cheese. 1167 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:49.440 Sure, that might work. 1168 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.719 I like cheese, but you know a flavorful bite. Yeah, 1169 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.960 it's like, oh, cheese and pepperoni cup. Oh but you 1170 00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.079 added this like less common ingredient with like the like, oh, 1171 00:58:58.079 --> 00:58:58.920 I didn't expect. 1172 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:01.599 That banana pepper in there. I was gonna say, but. 1173 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.840 I was gonna say hotney of like hot. You're like, oh, 1174 00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.519 hot honey. Interesting that I could be good. 1175 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:13.840 Hot honeys of more reliable edition. Hot honey is the roguelikeney. 1176 00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:18.159 Specially, hot honey is the Pick three rogue light thing 1177 00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.519 because it's like, yeah, it's tasty, but like everybody's doing 1178 00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.679 it now, so it's kind of losing it's allure a 1179 00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.440 little bit. You know, it used to be like hot honey, 1180 00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.800 and now you're like hot honey again, Like yeah, take 1181 00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:31.360 it back to red pepper chili flakes. You know what 1182 00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:34.119 I'm saying, Mmm, hot honey is better. 1183 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.880 Mm hmmmmmm. 1184 00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.239 Okay, well well that's a different podcast. 1185 00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.000 But yeah, that's sixteen six six afternoon. You can go 1186 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.159 to vamformer dot com right now. You can read my 1187 00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.800 written thoughts over there. 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X x Man is more 1215 01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:19.280 of my speed. 1216 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.360 I would say, which team, whatever team you've joined in 1217 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.920 Marvel Token and Fighting Souls. 1218 01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:26.920 Can actually Marcus you and I let's do a game 1219 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:31.519 we try to guess Eric's like character that. 1220 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.440 Yeah, okay, so I do have a four I have 1221 01:01:34.519 --> 01:01:36.320 a locked in for Yeah. 1222 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:38.119 All right, So well real quick, if you don't know 1223 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:41.599 what this is, this is the four on four tag 1224 01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.760 team fighting game by Arc system Works. So you might 1225 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:49.119 know as the team behind Guilty Gear, Blaze Blue, dragon 1226 01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:50.280 Ball Fighters. 1227 01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:53.280 That is important, which, yeah, all. 1228 01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:56.239 Great fighting game series, but I especially am a fan 1229 01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.360 of dragon Ball Fighters for the DNA of this game, 1230 01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:03.039 especially like Dragon Ball Fighters for sure. Yeah, you have 1231 01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.119 a team of Marvel characters all duking it out, and 1232 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.639 so since you have a team of four, we're gonna 1233 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.039 guess the team that, uh, Eric's going with I'm gonna say, 1234 01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:14.840 there's definitely an X man in there, like an X 1235 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:20.079 main character. I'm gonna guess because who's it. Who's in 1236 01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:21.599 the case, Wolverine, Storm. 1237 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.239 Can I manage? Run down the roster? 1238 01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:25.679 Run down the roster because it is it's not a 1239 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:29.239 large loss roster, but it is like a decently roster. 1240 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:33.639 So we've got Miss Marvel, spider Man, Penny Parker, star Lord, 1241 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:40.760 Black Panther, Just Shurry, Hulk, Captain America, iron Man, Carnage, 1242 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:52.679 Green Goblin, Doctor Doom, Magneto, Blade, ghost Rider, Deadpool, low Key, Danger, Storm, Magic, Wolverine. 1243 01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:58.079 Okay, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go Danger. I'm gonna say, 1244 01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:00.639 you got a little weird dangers on my team. Yeah. 1245 01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.239 Wait, Eric, don't don't confirm it yet. 1246 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:06.880 Oh okay, Okay, I want. 1247 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.840 To and I want to guess. Okay, so I want 1248 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:10.320 to compare it. 1249 01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:13.920 I'm musa say Danger. I'm gonna say, because I know 1250 01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.559 you're a big Marvel's capcom fan, I'm going I want 1251 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:20.159 to say either Doctor Drum or Magneto. I'm gonna say 1252 01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.639 Magneto because he's he's pretty, he's you know, he's a 1253 01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:29.360 mainstay in NBC say Danger, Magneto, I'm gonna spider manns 1254 01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:35.639 He's classic and then m I'm trying to think of 1255 01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:37.760 it like someone like super left Field. Like I feel 1256 01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:39.840 like you're going to pick someone maybe that hasn't been 1257 01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:43.360 in any like NBC, just to maybe try them. So 1258 01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:46.239 like that would be like Miss Marvel or ghost Writer? 1259 01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:49.880 Who else has it never been? Magic's never been in 1260 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.280 m VC. I'm would say, you know, I'm gonna say, 1261 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.039 Miss Marvel, why not? So what is that? Danger, Miss Marvel, 1262 01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:58.719 Spider Man, and and Magneto was my team. 1263 01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:05.679 Right, I'm reading this down Danger, Miss Marvel, Magneto, and 1264 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:07.840 who was the last one was a spider Man, Spidery. 1265 01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:11.119 My guest is. 1266 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.960 Danger, Doom, Magic. 1267 01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:17.920 Ghost Rider. 1268 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:24.400 Charles was the closest by getting two of them right, 1269 01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:29.119 and granted one of those I gave to you, Doom. 1270 01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.320 Doom is on the team. Uh, Doom was. 1271 01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:34.480 Most confident about. For what it's worth, I probably wouldn't 1272 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:35.199 have guessed Danger. 1273 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.840 So we're watching because because I was streaming or or 1274 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:42.199 I was on Jesse's Uh Jesse Vittelli friend of the 1275 01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:45.480 show who was on last week was was laid off 1276 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:51.920 between us recording the episode and publishing the episode from 1277 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:55.960 his gig, but in response did a sabbath on over 1278 01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.039 the weekend up through this week in which he managed 1279 01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:03.280 to a career through a thousand subscribers over the course 1280 01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.559 of like five days of streaming, which actually put him 1281 01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:09.960 in the top one thousand for active subs in Twitch, 1282 01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:12.079 which is just wild shout outs to Jesse. 1283 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:13.639 We love Jesse. 1284 01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.360 We're gonna try and probably get him on the show 1285 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.519 a little bit more often because he's just a good time, 1286 01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:20.960 good person to have around. But also he did some 1287 01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:22.559 really really fun stuff on there. So I was over 1288 01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:24.840 there for a little bit streaming with him playing some 1289 01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:25.519 token but. 1290 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:28.679 My team. 1291 01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:34.519 On Point Blade, which I did not see coming. But 1292 01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:40.000 Blade is a little bit like almost Vergil from MVC 1293 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.800 three style. I really he's just got some good neutrals. 1294 01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.039 I really like his options. I think when I look 1295 01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:47.760 for a point character in a game like this, I 1296 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:49.239 kind of want somebody who's going to be able to 1297 01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:52.440 play the neutral game very well. And I think with him, 1298 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:54.880 I found like a really a character whose neutral game 1299 01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:58.800 I vibe with. He's got a lot of good sized 1300 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:03.360 swings throw out, he's got some ranged attacks, He's got 1301 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:05.719 this really cool ability where he throws a steak and 1302 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:09.519 can follow up and like zip to the opponent attack 1303 01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:12.000 with it, which leads to some cool trap moments and 1304 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:14.159 stuff like that where you can kind of follow up 1305 01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.000 on attacks that people think you can't follow up on 1306 01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:17.679 and things like that. So I really really like Blade 1307 01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:23.159 for that. I also my next on the lineup is 1308 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:26.239 danger because it does matter what order you put them in, 1309 01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:29.920 and this is maybe one of the weirder stranger things 1310 01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:33.400 about Marvel to Con is that, so you think of 1311 01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:36.119 Marvel versus Capcom or Dragon Ball Fighters, and you have 1312 01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:39.920 a team of three, each with their own life bar. 1313 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:42.880 You can call in assists or you can tag out 1314 01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.119 to them. You also have the ability to do follow 1315 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:48.239 up supers and things like that, so if you do 1316 01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:50.679 a level one super, you can then follow it up 1317 01:06:50.679 --> 01:06:53.400 with another character's level one super and that'll also tag 1318 01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.480 you out, so they come in and be the point character. 1319 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.039 So you always have a point character who's out and 1320 01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.159 fighting on the screen al a street fighter, and then 1321 01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:01.920 two people kind of in the background who can help 1322 01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:06.360 the varying degrees on timers. Marvel TOKN does all that, 1323 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:09.519 but they give you four people on a team, a 1324 01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:14.159 singular life bar for the entire team, and you start 1325 01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:17.039 the match with only two of your characters, your point 1326 01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:21.840 character and your first assist available, And there's also some weird, 1327 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.440 funky mechanics. I'm still kind of getting my head around 1328 01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:28.480 where depending on how your characters are arranged in the roster, 1329 01:07:28.679 --> 01:07:31.360 they will have different assists that they throw out when 1330 01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:34.000 they come out and help you, And this changes depending 1331 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.199 on who you have swapped to as your point character 1332 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:38.039 as well. So I've been doing a lot of changing 1333 01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:39.960 around of my team to figure out how I want 1334 01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.599 that to sort of line up and play out and 1335 01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:43.519 who should be where. 1336 01:07:43.639 --> 01:07:46.079 So I was seeing is. 1337 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:48.559 The type of the differences between the assists? Is it 1338 01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:50.760 similar to like how you can choose different types of 1339 01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:54.239 assists than Marvel's capcom like this exists more defensive, this 1340 01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:55.440 is when it's more offensive. 1341 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:58.480 Yes, So, I think the best example I can give 1342 01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:02.679 is Danger, who is currently my second slot character. Her 1343 01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.760 second slot assist is she bounces out. For those who 1344 01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:08.000 don't know, Danger is basically just like what if the 1345 01:08:08.079 --> 01:08:11.199 Danger Room was an anime robot girl like to be 1346 01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:16.479 from near and that's that's Danger. Uh, so Danger jumps 1347 01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:21.119 out the dango. Finally, I've always said this the most 1348 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:25.279 dangerous game. Uh, Danger like hops out and like shoots 1349 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.319 a laser blast, and that's just that's a classic you know, 1350 01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:31.760 tag fighter assist. She's going to put some long range 1351 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:34.039 pressure out. I do like Doom's laser a little bit 1352 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:35.840 more so. I did have him in that second slot 1353 01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:37.840 for a while, but I've I've been going back and 1354 01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:39.760 forth on that, but that's ranged. 1355 01:08:39.800 --> 01:08:40.960 One is the first. 1356 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:43.880 Yeah, usually some sort of range thing, which I like 1357 01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:46.680 having in that first lot. Also, Spider Man do his 1358 01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:52.359 web ball. He just like like I think he shoots 1359 01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:54.359 out three or whatever. I'ven't played against a lot of 1360 01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.600 Spider Man players, so I don't know Spider Man as well, 1361 01:08:57.640 --> 01:08:58.159 but he just kind of. 1362 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:03.640 Like these people not seeing brand New Day. 1363 01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:04.119 I assume he'd be the number one guy. 1364 01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:08.760 He's he's actually I know, he's supposed to be pretty 1365 01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:11.720 strong in terms of just his ability to do some 1366 01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.039 some catch and and some catchup and we'll get to 1367 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:19.079 that in a moment, but he so so Danger is 1368 01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:21.960 my second Doom is my third doom Is is like 1369 01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:25.960 Zone God. He he wants to put out all kinds 1370 01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:30.119 of projectiles and different things on the screen. They're just 1371 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.640 difficult for you to deal with, and he's going to 1372 01:09:32.720 --> 01:09:36.279 pressure you like crazy. So he has a laser that is, 1373 01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:39.039 for my money, the best projectile in the game. He 1374 01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:41.600 has a laser he can call down from above that 1375 01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:44.359 kind of is on a delay and then just drops 1376 01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:46.159 a laser from wherever the character is standing. When it 1377 01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:48.920 finally the delay is up. Uh, and he's just got 1378 01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:50.880 a lot of great pressure. I love his uh, he 1379 01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:53.439 puts out. If you've played Street Fighter, he's got the 1380 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:57.600 urin shield, the slow advancing like mirror shield that you 1381 01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:00.159 get used to combo people with. He's got that, and 1382 01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:02.239 it can also do the You can put it so 1383 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.239 it forms in front of him and moves forward, or 1384 01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:05.920 you can make it so it forms behind them and 1385 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.960 dvances toward you, which I love doing because that's real. 1386 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:14.840 That's it's so good. If you can't sell I, I 1387 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:17.920 want to induce anxiety in my opponents. I want my 1388 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:21.560 characters to just be unrelenting pressure to where they don't 1389 01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.439 know what to do because so much is happening on 1390 01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:27.239 the screen and they think my combo is over, but 1391 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:30.199 I've actually just hidden the fact that I called an assistant, 1392 01:10:30.279 --> 01:10:32.159 backed up, let them swing, and then went in for 1393 01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:32.840 the upper cut. 1394 01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:35.119 Like I love pressure. It's so good. 1395 01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:38.840 I'm so excited to see doom zone people and Avengers zoomsday. 1396 01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.039 Yes, yeah, the Doones go crazy. 1397 01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.600 Yeah, just the Avengers charging him. He just shoots a 1398 01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:46.520 laser to keep them back. They're just really annoyed. 1399 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.119 Like he just uses this same mirror shield over and 1400 01:10:49.159 --> 01:10:49.720 over and over. 1401 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:55.000 That's how we stop Thor in the trailer, my fourth character, 1402 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.399 who I bounced around a lot of characters in the 1403 01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:01.279 slot because I think those first three crystallized pretty fast 1404 01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.760 for me. This one's a bit of a surprise and 1405 01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:06.319 might be a bit strange considering the makeup of the 1406 01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:08.119 rest of my team, but I kind of like this 1407 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:10.840 character as sort of a curveball I throw in there 1408 01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:15.880 right at the end. Is Black Panther is Shuri. Oh nice, Okay. 1409 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:22.800 She is a rush down, super high combo potential. Character 1410 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.000 has the ability to cancel out of a lot of 1411 01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:27.960 moves and do some really nasty mix up stuff in 1412 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.840 close range, which I think if I've spent kind of 1413 01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:33.079 the first two rounds of a game playing a zone 1414 01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:34.920 game with you and playing pressure and stuff like that. 1415 01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:37.680 When Shury comes in and suddenly all I'm like up 1416 01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:39.479 in your face and throwing a bunch of stuff like 1417 01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:42.119 right in front of you, it really throws people on 1418 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:44.399 their back foot. They think they know what game I'm 1419 01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:45.920 going to play, and then they're like, oh, wait, what 1420 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:46.159 is this? 1421 01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:46.560 What is this? 1422 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:51.159 Also, her assists are really really good. I really like them. 1423 01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:52.880 They're they're the kind of assists that I like in 1424 01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:55.159 a Marvel game. There's one where she hops out and 1425 01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:57.479 kind of throws two spears under her and then throws 1426 01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.960 two spears out like the side of her. That just 1427 01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:02.720 does great coverage on the ground for when you're trying 1428 01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:05.520 to like advance forward or knock out somebody else's assist. 1429 01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:11.319 And this is the thing that tag games just require 1430 01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:16.079 so much mental ram Yes, they really really do, because 1431 01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:17.399 you have to consider. 1432 01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:20.079 Because you have so many people now like, how's that 1433 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:23.600 kind of how does that adjusted your play style? Because 1434 01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.920 you're so that's three. 1435 01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.920 Sixteen matchups in any given fight. 1436 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:33.800 And the nice the nice part is making it so 1437 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:36.199 it's a singular health bar, so you only have to 1438 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.600 chew through one health bar per round, even though like 1439 01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:41.039 matches still go long We've been playing first to three 1440 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:43.279 mostly in our sets online, and it still feels like 1441 01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:47.640 those sets go on pretty long because it's also internally 1442 01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.680 first to three. So we would play, say you go 1443 01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:54.399 like three wins to two, that's that's like the first round, 1444 01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:56.359 and then you go to like five of that, You've 1445 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.279 played a lot of games in that time, You've played 1446 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.520 a lot of rounds. There's just a lot of game 1447 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.760 to happen there. So I do think this will be 1448 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:05.880 in the FGC side, in the competitive side, it will 1449 01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:07.960 be a game where you're probably going to see fewer 1450 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.039 sets until you get to like finals and stuff like that. 1451 01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:14.479 But it does just make it a mentally taxing game. 1452 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.000 It makes it a you have to think about all 1453 01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:21.680 these different characters, what they can do, what those assists 1454 01:13:21.680 --> 01:13:24.800 look like. And granted, the thing about tag games is 1455 01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:29.279 you learn a lot to then unlearn a lot of 1456 01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:31.640 it because you start thinking, you said earlier, okay, well 1457 01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:34.760 that's a projectaly assist. You learn Okay, well, if I 1458 01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:38.119 see like Doom Danger Blade stuff like that, I know 1459 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.560 kind of how their assists are going to work and 1460 01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:43.920 what they're capable of doing at any given time. You 1461 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.319 can play with those expectations a bit on your end. 1462 01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.279 Blade especially has some some fun changeups if you change 1463 01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.920 what slot he's in, same with Danger, but for the 1464 01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:54.520 most part, you're like, if I see them in that 1465 01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:56.600 second slot, I know it's a projectile that they're going 1466 01:13:56.640 --> 01:13:59.439 to throw out at me. And most assists do kind 1467 01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:02.760 of fit in to some broad categories of your providing 1468 01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.159 cover for yourself. You're extending a combo, maybe you have 1469 01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:08.319 something that's in anti air or is meant to kind 1470 01:14:08.359 --> 01:14:10.680 of knock things off the screen. So if somebody's jumping 1471 01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:13.560 at you, or somebody's calling an assist to advance on you, 1472 01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:15.560 you can call this assist out to kind of provide 1473 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:18.439 that cover and knock them back a little bit. It's 1474 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:21.079 just figuring out kind of where all those things fall 1475 01:14:21.119 --> 01:14:23.720 into those buckets, so you can then reduce the mental 1476 01:14:23.800 --> 01:14:26.359 ramload back down to the like what are my options 1477 01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:28.560 right now and how do I execute? And that's the 1478 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:30.720 hardest part. It's the hardest part of every fighting game, 1479 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:34.680 is your knowledge funnel goes out really far and then 1480 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:37.840 has to funnel back in, and most people drop out 1481 01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:40.079 at the widest part of the funnel right where it's 1482 01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:42.960 like I am so overwhelmed by the amount of information 1483 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.520 that exists when really it's about it's like driving a car. 1484 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:48.880 You know, you have to start to move things to 1485 01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:50.319 the back of your mind and be like, this is 1486 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:54.079 muscle memory. This is I'm just instinctively checking my mirrors 1487 01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.079 and my rear view and stuff like that. I don't 1488 01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:59.640 have to tell myself remember to do this, remember. 1489 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:01.560 To do that, do this, so you just do it naturally. 1490 01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.439 Do you feel like this game is because there's so 1491 01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:06.600 many characters on screen and it's you know, tag fighters 1492 01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:10.720 are inherently just chaotic. Do you find it difficult or 1493 01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:14.680 maybe early on, to like visually parse what was happening, 1494 01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.640 Like it just seems like so much is happening at 1495 01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:18.840 all times, Like do you ever get lost in the 1496 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:21.439 chaos of like which character am I? Or where even 1497 01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:23.920 am I? Right now? Am I being illy juggled because 1498 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:25.199 like four people are coming at me. 1499 01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:28.079 I think the one of the funniest things that happens 1500 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.800 in this game is when both players panic call all 1501 01:15:30.840 --> 01:15:34.079 of their assists at the same time and there's just 1502 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.399 an audible like We'll be on discord and I'll just 1503 01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:38.760 laugh and we'll both be like I have no idea 1504 01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:40.920 what just happened. I have no idea who I'm playing 1505 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:44.479 as right now, and there's there's definitely a little bit 1506 01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:47.680 of that. But for all the ways in which I 1507 01:15:47.720 --> 01:15:49.880 do think this game can be very overwhelming, it's also 1508 01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:54.600 surprisingly new player friendly, I think, because again, a singular 1509 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.640 health bar means you're not thinking about Kay, I need 1510 01:15:57.640 --> 01:15:59.560 to rotate this character out because they've taken a lot 1511 01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:01.119 of great day image and I want to recover that, 1512 01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:02.600 so I need to move around and stuff like that. 1513 01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:04.119 You don't have to worry about some of the higher 1514 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:08.319 level Marvel versus Capcom three stuff of X factors and 1515 01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:10.960 things like that. You can kind of just play the 1516 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:13.439 game that's in front of you. And there's a lot 1517 01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:17.640 of mechanical things that Arxis is implemented, like auto combos 1518 01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:21.720 and even some of the defensive and offensive mechanics. You 1519 01:16:21.800 --> 01:16:25.000 have a I forgot what their proper names are, but 1520 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.640 it's like an Avengers Assemble attack, which is this kind 1521 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:33.159 of like Armored jump forward, which is if you've played 1522 01:16:33.159 --> 01:16:35.359 Persona for Arena, there was a similar move in it 1523 01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:38.119 where you just kind of like do a hot forward 1524 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.039 and if you connect with it, it just starts a 1525 01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.119 like tag attack where your character jumps in and then 1526 01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:45.840 another character jumps in, and you can kind of just 1527 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:47.720 do a one two punch, and that's just kind of 1528 01:16:47.720 --> 01:16:52.199 an offensive move forward that isn't always the most effective 1529 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:52.800 thing to do. 1530 01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:53.840 But can be effective. 1531 01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:57.800 What's very effective is the Avengers counter, which is the 1532 01:16:57.800 --> 01:17:00.479 opposite direction of that input, where you kind of do 1533 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:03.680 a backstep and they'll have kind of a an orange 1534 01:17:03.720 --> 01:17:07.239 shade over them, and if your opponent swings into that, 1535 01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:10.239 it's effectively a pairry and you get like kind of 1536 01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:12.359 a follow up attack on it and then reset neutral. 1537 01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:15.680 And that one I've found a little bit harder to 1538 01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.840 gauge because it kind of feels very very forgiving. The 1539 01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:24.319 trade off is that there's there is no way to 1540 01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:26.960 break a combo once you're in it. Once you are 1541 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.520 in the combo in this game, there is not like, 1542 01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.039 you know, a burst or anything like that that is 1543 01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:34.800 your your get out of jail free card. Once you 1544 01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:39.359 are getting juggled, you better hope somebody drops a combo 1545 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:41.520 or leaves a window wide enough for you to do 1546 01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.159 the air recovery and land and start blocking again, because 1547 01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:46.960 otherwise you are in the combo is that frustrating. 1548 01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:50.399 I feel like a little bit I have no defense 1549 01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:51.199 for that whatsoever. 1550 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.600 That's been one of the more. 1551 01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:59.039 Like high level criticisms I've seen of this game. I mean, 1552 01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:02.000 there are other critics that Arcist has been addressing, mainly 1553 01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.600 the performance on PC, which I've been playing on, and 1554 01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:07.319 I can attest it was really rough early on, and 1555 01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:10.439 they have taken measures to fix it, but it is 1556 01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:13.439 still a work in progress, although much better than it 1557 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:19.199 was before. But I think from a I wouldn't call 1558 01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.359 myself a high level player. I wouldn't call myself a 1559 01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:23.640 low level player. I'm just kind of somewhere in the middle. 1560 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:28.960 It is a little yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody who plays 1561 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.520 fighting games has you know, gone one in two and 1562 01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:37.439 a few tournaments and can kind of somewhat converse in 1563 01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:41.239 this language. Is that I do think it's a little 1564 01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:44.000 frustrating that I don't have a get out of jail 1565 01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:46.199 free card because I've been used to having that in 1566 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:49.159 other games. But at the same time, it does mean 1567 01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:51.760 I'm having to rethink my approach and that I have 1568 01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:54.640 to play knowing that I don't have like a gimme 1569 01:18:54.880 --> 01:18:56.800 to get out of some pressure. If I you know 1570 01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.279 if I need it, and that does change the way 1571 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:02.960 I play. I do think it forces a more thoughtful 1572 01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:05.880 approach compared to how fast this game can feel sometimes 1573 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:10.479 where high level play. I mentioned chasing and stuff like 1574 01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:12.960 that earlier. There's so many movement options. There's so much 1575 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:15.479 movement tech already in this game for characters to just 1576 01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:18.600 zip around the screen and put out projectiles and really 1577 01:19:18.640 --> 01:19:22.920 just I mean it is a tag tag. Fighters love abundance. 1578 01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:27.000 They love over the top exaggerated action. I did a 1579 01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:29.760 story years ago about Marvel versus Capcom two and how 1580 01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:33.119 that kind of changed the fighting game landscape because of 1581 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:37.680 you just had these matches where it was just everything 1582 01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:38.960 on screen all at once. 1583 01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:44.720 It's spectacle. It's fun to watch even when you're not playing. 1584 01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:47.760 Yeah, and it's it is I think to con does 1585 01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:51.039 check that box of it is a spectacle fighter. It 1586 01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:54.840 is entertaining to watch. You can do some things where 1587 01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:58.239 I had one combo in the corner where I I 1588 01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:01.479 apologize to my opponent. It made combo because I was 1589 01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:05.000 just hitting everything and I was discovering new lines as 1590 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.520 I was doing it, and I just found some nasty 1591 01:20:07.560 --> 01:20:10.840 ways to keep the pressure up and just keep them 1592 01:20:10.920 --> 01:20:13.359 stuck on the wall and all that, and I was like, 1593 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:16.279 I am so sorry, but I am just absolutely styling 1594 01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:19.960 on you right now and it feels awesome and that 1595 01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:22.920 sometimes look, sometimes you are the hammer and sometimes you 1596 01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:25.760 are the nail, and that is the way of this 1597 01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:30.720 game and this type of fighter. But I think given 1598 01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:33.600 all that, it is one of the more approachable versions 1599 01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.079 of this that we've seen since at least Dragon Ball Fighters, 1600 01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:38.079 which and people really like it for that. 1601 01:20:38.399 --> 01:20:40.199 You've been playing it too, and I kind of want 1602 01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:42.600 to pass it to you as how do you feel 1603 01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:46.000 about the approachability because you're not like a big fighting 1604 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.159 game guy. I think you've said before, like you'll play that. 1605 01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:52.199 I love to watch a fighting game. 1606 01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:56.920 I just have never been able to get into one 1607 01:20:57.039 --> 01:20:59.119 enough that I ever felt like I really knew what 1608 01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:01.479 I was doing, and I feel like I didn't have. 1609 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:05.000 What I needed was like a college. 1610 01:21:04.520 --> 01:21:07.319 Dorm with four people where we all were really into 1611 01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:10.319 a game for like a year, right, Like I I'm 1612 01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:12.439 up to that with like Smash Bros. Like I can 1613 01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:16.119 play Smash Bros With people, but like other like more 1614 01:21:16.159 --> 01:21:18.399 traditional fighting gips, I've ever been into this one. 1615 01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:19.520 I just was enjoying. 1616 01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:25.159 Uh, there's there's a lot of like auto combo strings 1617 01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:27.279 where you can kind of feel like you know what 1618 01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.399 you're doing on like some basic levels without having to 1619 01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:31.600 like memorize and. 1620 01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:32.680 Execute in the same way. 1621 01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:36.039 I think there's still advantages for if you do like 1622 01:21:36.119 --> 01:21:38.039 the classic inputs. I think it does a little bit 1623 01:21:38.039 --> 01:21:42.760 more damage or just like better at times usually, But 1624 01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:45.319 as someone who doesn't really know what I'm doing, it's 1625 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:46.800 nice to be able to just jump in and kind 1626 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:48.880 of like fill around. And also, I was just playing 1627 01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:54.560 through the story a little bit, which has alway it's honestly, 1628 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:57.680 I'm not that far in. I just started playing the 1629 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:01.760 there's like different teams of the characters. They split the 1630 01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:04.640 cast of twenty into five teams of four, so it's 1631 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:08.920 playing as the fighting Avengers, which is Captain America, Black Panther, Hulk, 1632 01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:13.720 and Iron Man. And there's these like bigger anime style 1633 01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:16.640 cut scenes, and then there's these comic book cut scenes 1634 01:22:17.159 --> 01:22:21.159 where it's like just slightly animated comic book frames and 1635 01:22:21.159 --> 01:22:23.119 then just kind of telling the story. And the whole 1636 01:22:23.720 --> 01:22:26.600 plot is that the Champion has come to Earth and 1637 01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:28.800 he will only fight the best, and so he's got 1638 01:22:28.840 --> 01:22:29.800 a big tournament. 1639 01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:31.600 Going on, and you guys almost champion each other. 1640 01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:33.239 Character. 1641 01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:35.039 He's a new original character, I think. 1642 01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:39.560 Okay, like the Beyonder or something like they were doing like. 1643 01:22:39.520 --> 01:22:41.640 A Super Wars thing. It is. 1644 01:22:41.680 --> 01:22:44.399 I have seen nobody run this character. By the way, 1645 01:22:45.079 --> 01:22:48.279 I have seen nobody this character. Yeah, I think I 1646 01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:50.720 think it's a story mode un lock or something. I 1647 01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:53.960 have heard tell of one of my friends matching up 1648 01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:57.279 against somebody running Champion online and otherwise, like I've heard 1649 01:22:57.279 --> 01:23:00.560 of nobody blaying. It's this character I don't even seen. 1650 01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.119 Because it's like you'll you'll see him in like the 1651 01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:05.439 key art, like he's in the background. It is one 1652 01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:07.359 of those things where it's like the game is built 1653 01:23:07.399 --> 01:23:12.239 around being these recognizable characters everyone spent decades of their 1654 01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:14.840 life loving and becoming attached to, and then they're also 1655 01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.000 like and there's the big bad guy. 1656 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:20.159 It's like that fighting game, what was it, Marvel Nemesis. 1657 01:23:20.199 --> 01:23:22.079 Do you guys remember that game where it was like 1658 01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:25.119 half the roster was half Marvel characters and then the 1659 01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:27.800 other half of a roster were these original characters called 1660 01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:31.359 like the Imperfects, And it was just like I'm playing 1661 01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:33.039 that and being like, why would I ever pick any 1662 01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:33.279 of these? 1663 01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:37.279 I just want to be my dudes, I will say 1664 01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:40.239 to Marvel. To CON's credit, I think this is a 1665 01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:43.039 really good selection of my characters. 1666 01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:45.359 I think it's one of the most inspired. So, like, 1667 01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:48.000 there's characters in here I've been wanting in an NVC 1668 01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:51.279 game for a long time, like Carnage, Green Goblin. 1669 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.600 Blade Goblin's so fun. 1670 01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:55.800 I love his design too, he just looks cool. 1671 01:23:56.319 --> 01:23:58.239 Is Loki new to this sort of realm too? Am 1672 01:23:58.239 --> 01:23:59.079 I correct? Yeah? 1673 01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:03.800 Yeah, he's never been in a Magic game. Magic's also 1674 01:24:03.880 --> 01:24:07.520 a great pick. I mean Magic almost feels like like 1675 01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:10.520 there's some cool nods in this game. Obviously, Deadpool is 1676 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:14.920 nothing but references to other fighting games, both internally at 1677 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:18.560 Arc system Works and also uh broader games. He has 1678 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:21.920 the Yoshimitsu self stab and stuff like that. Uh, there's 1679 01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:25.960 just like, yeah, he he is literally just fighting game 1680 01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:29.680 memes the character, which I normally am like Deadpool, like, 1681 01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:32.000 come on, have we not already run this into the 1682 01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:37.439 ground with this character? Like yeah, but but they found 1683 01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:39.359 a way to make him really fun and interesting and 1684 01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:42.600 speak to the game that he's in, and Magic and 1685 01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.439 Blade and ghost Rider being in there is like, yeah, 1686 01:24:45.640 --> 01:24:47.920 we also agree that Midnight Suns was a really cool 1687 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:50.520 game that more people should play, and we're gonna shout 1688 01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:55.279 that out. I really really love the lineup with this game. 1689 01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:58.479 When I went to I was talking to the guys 1690 01:24:58.479 --> 01:25:03.199 that did Cosmic Invasion, Marvel Cosmic Invasion. They were talking 1691 01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:05.720 about the like roster that they chose for that game, 1692 01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.760 and just like the process of picking them and just 1693 01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:12.600 how Marvel is like when they're like guiding people to choose, 1694 01:25:12.680 --> 01:25:15.359 like the rosters that they're doing, they're very much They're 1695 01:25:15.399 --> 01:25:18.720 not like you can't have these characters, but they're like 1696 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:20.880 go ahead, take like take Spider Man if you want 1697 01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:23.520 to take Iron Man, but we just want that you 1698 01:25:23.640 --> 01:25:26.279 also make room for like those kind of weird polls, 1699 01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:28.720 like they want to make sure that it feels different enough, 1700 01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:33.319 and like people are gonna be introduced to Danger for example, 1701 01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:35.439 because they come because they're like cool. 1702 01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:36.600 I like the Hulk. I want to play a game 1703 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:38.239 with the Hulk, and then they get interested. 1704 01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:42.000 Like don't just pick the guys like you have a rich, 1705 01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:45.079 a rich roster of characters, like you can literally you 1706 01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:46.199 can dig deeper if you want. 1707 01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:51.079 Yeah, even the first DLC character they've announced is Phoenix Cyclops. 1708 01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:51.359 Yeah. 1709 01:25:51.359 --> 01:25:54.319 It's such a cool pivot because like Cyclops. I'm like, yeah, 1710 01:25:54.359 --> 01:25:57.359 it's it's it's a Marvel Tag fighter. Cyclops should be 1711 01:25:57.439 --> 01:25:59.520 in that game. There's there's no reason not to. But 1712 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.720 then they said, okay, but what if Phoenix Cyclops And 1713 01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:04.560 I'm okay, all right. 1714 01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:08.199 From one specific story arc or that, like my Avengers 1715 01:26:08.279 --> 01:26:10.399 versus X Men, it's like the only time that's really 1716 01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:14.119 been a thing that I can remember. I remember saying now, 1717 01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:16.119 I was like, that's such a specific pool that I 1718 01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:16.840 really really love. 1719 01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:19.600 The thing I want to say also about the story 1720 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:23.840 mode is that Thor is not on this lineup, but 1721 01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:26.720 he is like in this world they like the the 1722 01:26:26.760 --> 01:26:30.039 Avenger story starts with Captain America is going to like 1723 01:26:30.039 --> 01:26:32.880 a big opening of like the Avengers Park and there's 1724 01:26:32.920 --> 01:26:35.239 a statue in the park of Ironman, Captain America, and 1725 01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:38.359 Thoor and everyone's like, yep, those are the Avengers, those 1726 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:42.399 are the three Avengers, and Captain America's like, poor Hulk. Yeah, well, 1727 01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:45.399 Captain America is like, the plot is they have to 1728 01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:48.560 go get Hulk, but they he's so scary. They lied 1729 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:50.359 and they were like, oh, No, he wasn't a part 1730 01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:52.279 of this. He was just kind of around, but he's 1731 01:26:52.319 --> 01:26:54.520 not going to be your permanent protector, so they kind 1732 01:26:54.520 --> 01:26:56.560 of like shunned him off to the Savage Lands. 1733 01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:57.600 But they keep. 1734 01:26:57.439 --> 01:27:00.239 Referencing the fact that like four has left, like he's 1735 01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:03.479 gone missing, and I assume he'll be a DLC character, 1736 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:04.479 but he also might. 1737 01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:05.760 Just not be a DLC character. 1738 01:27:06.039 --> 01:27:07.520 But I think the main thing I like is that 1739 01:27:07.560 --> 01:27:10.520 they're not just because someone's not on the roster doesn't 1740 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:11.439 mean they're not reference. 1741 01:27:11.479 --> 01:27:12.079 They're not like. 1742 01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:14.840 Still key parts of the universe because also. 1743 01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:15.880 Loki's here, so. 1744 01:27:18.119 --> 01:27:20.439 The stages have a lot of references. Remember looking at 1745 01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.720 trailers and seeing like, okay, there's like five different references 1746 01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:25.640 to like different other characters that may or may not 1747 01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:26.279 be in the game. 1748 01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:28.039 There ain't seen. 1749 01:27:29.319 --> 01:27:29.760 You go ahead. 1750 01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:32.239 I was saying, I ain't never seen a thing that 1751 01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:35.680 has Dazzler in it. But she's not in every video 1752 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:38.520 game I've ever seen, and she is a billboyd in 1753 01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:39.000 this game. 1754 01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:41.439 You gotta play x many arcade game. That's like the 1755 01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:43.199 only game you could play is Dazzler. 1756 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.439 Yeah, I was gonna say, there's a there's an Xavier 1757 01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:50.640 academy level that just has tons of X men in 1758 01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:53.439 the background and the stage, and every time we play 1759 01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:56.000 on it, I'm just like, please, come on, put put 1760 01:27:56.039 --> 01:27:58.000 some of them in the game. Come on, like just 1761 01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:01.840 I would love to see, like Sielock could get such 1762 01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.199 a cool treatment here, Iceman could get such a cool 1763 01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:06.800 treatment here. But I also want them to just keep 1764 01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:10.880 up this energy of like, you know, doing the cool thing, 1765 01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:13.880 but maybe swerving in a way that we don't normally expect. 1766 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:15.720 I think a lot of people would have expected Venom, 1767 01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:18.359 for example, Instead we got Carnage, which is really cool 1768 01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:22.279 option yeah, because Carnage is gnarly in this game. I mean, 1769 01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:25.000 he just looks cool. He's got such a cool style 1770 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:26.319 style to him. 1771 01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:29.960 He got he got really pronounced hip bones. 1772 01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:35.239 He's like the he's like the what are the liquors from? 1773 01:28:35.279 --> 01:28:36.239 From Resident Evil? 1774 01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:38.479 Like he's kind of like he kind of built like 1775 01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:44.159 one of those, yeah, like liquor. I mean that Cletus 1776 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:46.079 Can said he known for two things, one being a 1777 01:28:46.119 --> 01:28:49.079 horrible serial killer too gatam hips. 1778 01:28:50.199 --> 01:28:56.239 God damn he got damn liquor hips. 1779 01:28:56.439 --> 01:28:57.960 I don't know I had to say that in that voice. 1780 01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:05.119 But and at this time, he's gonna. 1781 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:06.760 Bleep me out and people could be like, what what 1782 01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:08.439 could he have possibly said. 1783 01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:08.640 That I did. 1784 01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:11.359 I had to believe I had to bleep Wes On 1785 01:29:11.399 --> 01:29:15.359 the last episod he said something we could Yeah. I 1786 01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:17.359 was like, we cannot air that. 1787 01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:21.520 It's really good, it's only we will never tell. Yeah. 1788 01:29:21.560 --> 01:29:24.960 But yeah, marvelto Gone Fighting Souls. It is out now. 1789 01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:27.199 I'm so excited. Like I've been out of town on 1790 01:29:27.279 --> 01:29:30.359 a work trip, and honestly, one of the hardest things 1791 01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:32.840 about being away was getting code and not being able 1792 01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:34.239 to download it. Like I was like, I have to 1793 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:37.520 wait for days. It's installed now I'm gonna try to 1794 01:29:37.560 --> 01:29:39.600 fire it up tonight. But I've been so excited for 1795 01:29:39.640 --> 01:29:42.760 this game. It's it's a good time. 1796 01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:46.000 It's really fun and honestly, like I again, I think 1797 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.359 it's very approachable, which is the right thing for them 1798 01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.600 to do, was to make this game that has kind 1799 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:52.479 of a low floor but a high ceiling, and it 1800 01:29:52.479 --> 01:29:53.880 feels like they have they have nailed that. 1801 01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:55.800 Hell yeah. 1802 01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:56.199 Well. 1803 01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:59.039 The last game that we'll talk about today is a 1804 01:29:59.239 --> 01:30:02.319 Fields of Mystery, which has gone one point. 1805 01:30:02.399 --> 01:30:03.479 Oh uh. 1806 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:08.359 It is a cozy sort of like a farm sim 1807 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:12.359 life sim uh that we've uh. I think we've all 1808 01:30:12.399 --> 01:30:14.560 had kind of had our eye on. I actually have 1809 01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:16.680 not played it in early access. I've kind of took 1810 01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:18.119 I took the approach of like, I'll wait for this 1811 01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:20.359 to go one point. Oh, but it looks it looks 1812 01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:23.840 really cool. Charles, you've checked it out. How is it 1813 01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:26.640 shaped up now that it is out in full. 1814 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:28.520 Yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. I had 1815 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:30.840 not played this game, even though I was excited for it. 1816 01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:35.279 I will start by disclosing that the Prfist game is 1817 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:38.039 handled by Sarah Putzorski, who's one of the mid mexicalhorts. 1818 01:30:38.119 --> 01:30:40.760 And I'm over at Mimax sometimes and I know sarah've 1819 01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:43.039 played D and D with hers. She's cool size it's 1820 01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:44.359 a potential conflict of interest. 1821 01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:45.279 Shout out to Sarah. 1822 01:30:45.439 --> 01:30:46.880 Yeah, I just want to address that top. 1823 01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.560 I like this game though it's it's not not an 1824 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:54.600 unpopular opinion. It's sold a million copies in the first 1825 01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:57.760 like six hours, like being out. Yeah, it's doing doing 1826 01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:00.640 quite well. 1827 01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:05.000 And it is basically Stardoo Valley. 1828 01:31:05.319 --> 01:31:08.800 It feels very much and I assume what it is 1829 01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:11.319 is a bunch of indie developers saying we liked Stardoo Valley, 1830 01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:12.960 but there's some things about it we would do a 1831 01:31:12.960 --> 01:31:15.159 little bit different. So we're gonna do our own take 1832 01:31:15.239 --> 01:31:18.600 on it. And it's not an exact one to one, 1833 01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:21.359 but it's close enough that if you've played Starduo Valley, 1834 01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:23.399 it's it's all gonna feel very, very familiar to you 1835 01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:27.720 in terms of like just the structure, the days, the 1836 01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.239 way everything is worked. Even a lot of the like 1837 01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:34.600 animations and sprites are vaguely similar. Hey, Charles, you want 1838 01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:35.920 to know my deep secret. 1839 01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:37.760 Have you not played Starduo Valley. 1840 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:42.600 I've never played Starting Velle. Oh wow, it's one of 1841 01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:45.399 my biggest gaps in terms of, like, I guess the 1842 01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:49.760 last decade of gaming. I've put it off so many times, 1843 01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.720 mainly because it kept switching to more appealing platforms or like, 1844 01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:55.720 oh it's only on PC, and like, I mean that's okay, 1845 01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:57.640 I bet I'll play because everyone says it's amazing. Then 1846 01:31:57.680 --> 01:31:59.600 it came to PlayStation, I was like, okay, that'll be 1847 01:31:59.640 --> 01:32:01.680 the one play. Then it came to Switch, I. 1848 01:32:01.640 --> 01:32:03.399 Was like that's perfect handheld. 1849 01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:05.399 Hell yeah, And it's been on my switch wishless for 1850 01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:06.880 years and I still have never gotten to it. 1851 01:32:07.399 --> 01:32:08.640 That's wild. 1852 01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:11.359 So this will be like my first exposure I guess 1853 01:32:11.399 --> 01:32:14.239 to that a Stardo esque game. 1854 01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:20.720 Yeah, that genuinely had not occurred to me was someone 1855 01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:23.199 who was interested in Fields of Mysteri but had. 1856 01:32:23.079 --> 01:32:26.039 Not played Stardoo Valley, which I've played. Fine. 1857 01:32:26.119 --> 01:32:29.159 Yeah, you played like a Harvest Moon before. If you 1858 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:32.720 played like a something where you kind of manage a farm. 1859 01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:34.640 You reviewed Harvest Stella. 1860 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:35.439 That's. 1861 01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:41.640 I just do that and then coming back and you're like, 1862 01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:46.000 that's like an RPG with light farming elements, where like 1863 01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:49.920 Harvest Moon and Stardew Valley are farming games with light 1864 01:32:50.039 --> 01:32:53.199 RPG elements. Yeah, like Iron Factory is somewhere in the middle. 1865 01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:55.640 Yeah, I've never played Harvest Moon or those like. I 1866 01:32:55.680 --> 01:33:00.359 got into like life semi stuff and like my he's 1867 01:33:00.399 --> 01:33:02.640 like in a like And even then, I don't go 1868 01:33:02.680 --> 01:33:04.079 out of my way to play every single one of 1869 01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:06.680 these ones because there's just so many of them, and 1870 01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:10.239 they tend to all require a huge time investment, where 1871 01:33:10.279 --> 01:33:12.159 like I don't I don't want to play, Like, I 1872 01:33:12.159 --> 01:33:13.760 don't even want to play. Multiple of these are the 1873 01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:15.760 same times. They all kind of hit the same They 1874 01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:17.840 scratched the same niche. At least for me, it's like, 1875 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.239 give me one good one to sink my teeth into. 1876 01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:23.760 So I play, like I don't know if animal crossing counts, 1877 01:33:23.800 --> 01:33:25.600 but like it's in the vein right. 1878 01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:27.960 Like yeah, it's kind of. 1879 01:33:28.239 --> 01:33:31.920 Like there's a way that you get sucked into a 1880 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:34.920 game like Fields of Mystra or Starry Valley that doesn't 1881 01:33:34.960 --> 01:33:38.640 happen with animal crossing because the real time clock, right. 1882 01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:43.560 So so the they wants you to log off, yeah, yeah, 1883 01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:45.000 they turn off your system. 1884 01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:46.680 Yeah. 1885 01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:49.319 So the base premise of this game is it is 1886 01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:52.560 a takes place in a sort of kingdom. 1887 01:33:52.840 --> 01:33:54.000 Where like magic is presence. 1888 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:57.640 So it's kind of a it's a light fantasy world. 1889 01:33:58.119 --> 01:34:01.880 And uh, there's a town and it's not doing great, 1890 01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:05.359 but they think maybe we can get an adventure in 1891 01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:07.920 to come fix up the farm that's on the south 1892 01:34:07.960 --> 01:34:10.159 of the town and then kind of help out around town. 1893 01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:12.760 They're basically giving you the farm in exchange for you 1894 01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:17.800 becoming like the town's main helper guy. So you come in, 1895 01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:20.600 you have your house, and then you have like this 1896 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:23.439 land that's all your farmland, and you can chop down 1897 01:34:23.439 --> 01:34:26.520 the trees, break up the rocks, plants some plants, plant them, 1898 01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:28.439 grow them, sell them, et cetera, et cetera. And then 1899 01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:31.479 there's also lots of villagers to talk to you can 1900 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:35.680 romance them, and then all sorts of systems. 1901 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:36.640 From these sorts of similar games. 1902 01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:40.039 So something that's not in Sardi Valley is there's a museum. 1903 01:34:40.439 --> 01:34:44.880 So every crop you grow, every bug and fish you catch, 1904 01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:46.079 that sort of thing, you can bring it. 1905 01:34:46.079 --> 01:34:47.319 Over the museum, get it logged. 1906 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.800 You're trying to get money. But there's also renown, which 1907 01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:54.079 that was a fire embloom word and I was like, oh, 1908 01:34:54.359 --> 01:35:00.359 it'll come back. Is that like upgrade your town which 1909 01:35:00.439 --> 01:35:02.800 lets you unlock more stuff. So last I played, I 1910 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:05.359 just unlocked the minds, but I haven't gone there yet. 1911 01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:10.560 I'm also five or six hours, not even I'm probably 1912 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:13.119 probably five hours in, and I'm on like week one 1913 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:15.199 of the game, and it's just the sort of game 1914 01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:19.079 where five hours is like a good amount, but one 1915 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:19.600 week of. 1916 01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:21.079 Game is like nothing. 1917 01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:24.920 Basically, early game in these games is usually a lot 1918 01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:28.960 of walking around, meeting people, talking to people. It's usually 1919 01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:32.520 a little bit slower at the start because you are 1920 01:35:32.520 --> 01:35:36.000 just getting acquainted with everything right, and then by the 1921 01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.800 time you're in week four or whatever, you're just in 1922 01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:40.560 the mindset of like I need to do this, I 1923 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:41.800 need to wake up and do this and do this. 1924 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:44.800 Does it have like stamina meters and things like that, 1925 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:47.680 kind of like your your traditional trappings of what forms 1926 01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:48.920 a day in a game like this. 1927 01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:52.520 Yeah, so there is like a clock, so you day 1928 01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:55.720 can run out just like time wise, but there's also 1929 01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.920 stamina meter. So there's only so much like labor you 1930 01:35:58.960 --> 01:36:01.079 can do in a day, Like you can only chop 1931 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:04.279 down so many trees and break so many rocks. You 1932 01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:07.479 can cook, so like if you cook food, you can 1933 01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:09.560 get stuff that can replenish your stamina. There's like a 1934 01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.239 whole wide like cooking menu. 1935 01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:14.720 Name me a dish that you're made. I'm curious about. 1936 01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:19.560 That sliced turnips. I got that recipe because I grew turnips. 1937 01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:21.960 Their recipe is one turnip. 1938 01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:24.560 That's it. 1939 01:36:25.319 --> 01:36:26.960 Do you even cook this or do you just slice 1940 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:27.600 it into meath? 1941 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:29.960 You gotta take it to a cooking station, which in 1942 01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:32.119 this case, I guess it means just the cutting. 1943 01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:36.319 Board just kind of blanchet or like put some salt 1944 01:36:36.399 --> 01:36:37.039 on there, like. 1945 01:36:38.439 --> 01:36:40.640 It might not be cooking. I got a recipe for 1946 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:45.600 baked potato. Also, you got these recipes also over time, 1947 01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:47.880 so it's not like you can just It's not like Minecraft, 1948 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:49.640 where it's like if you know how the pieces work, 1949 01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:52.239 you can do that. These are like once you sell 1950 01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:54.039 your first potato, they're like, by the way, you can 1951 01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:54.680 bake these and. 1952 01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:56.399 You're like, I never even thought of that. 1953 01:36:56.399 --> 01:36:58.399 That's crazy. 1954 01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:03.720 Yeah, Also to say, I do really like it, and 1955 01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:06.239 I do really like the ways that you can tell 1956 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:08.319 they played Starduo Valley and they were like, I wish 1957 01:37:08.319 --> 01:37:11.279 it was this way. So like in Stardoo Valley, famously, 1958 01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:14.680 if you want to buy stuff, you gotta go to 1959 01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:17.159 the shop, and the shop is closed on Wednesdays, and 1960 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:19.520 it also only opens at a certain time and it 1961 01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:22.319 closes at a certain time. And in this game, I'm 1962 01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:25.560 ninety five percent sure as long as you go up 1963 01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:28.760 to like the menu ordering board at a shop, you 1964 01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:30.760 can just like leave the money there and take something. 1965 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:32.199 They're just like, yeah, you're good for it. 1966 01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:34.720 Like the town just operates on a level of trust 1967 01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:36.640 where you don't have to like wait for the clock 1968 01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:37.720 to do that sort of thing. 1969 01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:41.760 I aspire to live in a city where that such 1970 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:42.800 an honor system the. 1971 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:44.119 Dream right there. 1972 01:37:44.319 --> 01:37:49.560 Yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm still very early on. But 1973 01:37:49.760 --> 01:37:52.960 I like the characters a lot. I like the art 1974 01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:53.239 a lot. 1975 01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:54.399 I really like the music. 1976 01:37:55.600 --> 01:38:00.279 The sound palette kind of reminds me of the song 1977 01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:02.840 that keeps playing remunds me of Twin Leaf Town from 1978 01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:06.319 Pokemon Diamond and Pearl that has like a similar flute. 1979 01:38:05.960 --> 01:38:07.000 Synth sound in it. 1980 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:10.079 Yeah, I don't have I don't have all that much 1981 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:12.279 to say except that it's it's about what I expected, 1982 01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.760 which is to say, Starduo Valley with some new added stuff. 1983 01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:18.880 It kind of feels like a sequel in a lot 1984 01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:21.239 of ways, where you're they're taking a lot of stuff, 1985 01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:25.520 they're not even being that crazy about adding things. The 1986 01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:27.640 other thing I really like that I'll mention to clothes 1987 01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:30.479 with is there's so much customizability that's just kind of 1988 01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:35.560 freely available. So once you unlock a clothing item, it's 1989 01:38:35.640 --> 01:38:37.880 just always in the menu. You can just swap out 1990 01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:39.840 what your appearance looks like at any moment. You can 1991 01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:45.239 change your name, your pronouns, your skin color, your outfit. 1992 01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:47.760 You can pre save appearances if you want to do that. 1993 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:50.520 I just got a pet and I didn't have to 1994 01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:53.359 unlock the pet. It was just like a familiar A 1995 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:55.920 familiar pet came to Well, it's a cat now, but 1996 01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:57.640 I can just go on the menu and swap it 1997 01:38:57.680 --> 01:38:59.199 over to a dog if I feel like I want 1998 01:38:59.199 --> 01:38:59.880 it to be a dog. 1999 01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:02.560 So it's it's just like a thing of. 2000 01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:05.000 Does it happen the consciousness of a man from nineteen 2001 01:39:05.039 --> 01:39:05.520 ninety nine? 2002 01:39:05.920 --> 01:39:12.640 Yes, you got to make him what's his name? Aaron? 2003 01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:17.159 Aaron, Aaron the cat. 2004 01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:18.479 Yeah. 2005 01:39:18.520 --> 01:39:20.680 And then the other big thing that's in this game 2006 01:39:20.680 --> 01:39:23.039 that I haven't gotten to yet, and I'm not getting 2007 01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:25.079 the vibe. I'm gonna get to it soon. But there 2008 01:39:25.159 --> 01:39:27.039 is like magic in this game, so you can cast 2009 01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:30.039 spells that will help you crops go faster, and you'll 2010 01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:31.520 you'll do different things. 2011 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:34.399 But it does have a vaguely magic vibe to it. 2012 01:39:34.479 --> 01:39:35.960 I don't know if that is some of the more 2013 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.199 pixel yards or just kind of the bright you know, 2014 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:40.199 there's a lot of characters that are very brightly colored 2015 01:39:40.199 --> 01:39:41.239 and stuff, and I looked at that, I was like, 2016 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:46.439 it seems very fantasy. So I do love the art 2017 01:39:46.640 --> 01:39:52.319 just being a total like late eighties early nineties anime throwback, 2018 01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:57.680 like some very RNMA inspired early Sailor Moon even like 2019 01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:00.880 hard cap or soccer type stuff. I feel like, between 2020 01:40:00.880 --> 01:40:02.840 this and Orbitals and some other stuff, we're having like 2021 01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:05.880 a real renaissance of this art style, and I'm all 2022 01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:06.399 for it. 2023 01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:08.920 It seems like totally really good the way game developers 2024 01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.600 like went back and had their like, man, we've want 2025 01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:13.640 to make sixteen bit eight big gangs. That's what we 2026 01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:15.119 grew up with. It seems like now like, yeah, I 2027 01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:17.439 just want like that same time period, but just for 2028 01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:21.199 anime aesthetics for my game. Yeah, I want eight nineties anime. 2029 01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:24.880 I want a game that looks like Lapoot the Castle 2030 01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:26.119 in the Sky or Capital in the Sky. 2031 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:28.840 I think it's Castle in the Sky the Gibi. 2032 01:40:29.319 --> 01:40:33.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 2033 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:36.600 I will say that that's one thing that the character 2034 01:40:36.680 --> 01:40:38.840 porches in this game miles better than the ones in 2035 01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:41.560 Stardu Valley, which are like fine, it's just like little heads, 2036 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:43.960 and this one it is like that full anime art style, 2037 01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:44.960 which I really like. 2038 01:40:45.079 --> 01:40:45.520 That's good. 2039 01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:48.239 Yeah, we should do. I was thinking about this when 2040 01:40:48.239 --> 01:40:50.039 I was playing The Mermaid Mask, which I finished, by 2041 01:40:50.039 --> 01:40:51.000 the way, during my trip. 2042 01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:53.399 We've all finished it, right, did you finish it, Eric. 2043 01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:54.600 Yeah, I finished it. 2044 01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:56.880 Yeah, okay, oh yeah, look at us. It's a really 2045 01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:00.239 good game. Look at us, smarty pants a game. Yeah, 2046 01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:02.319 but I was gonna say, like, that's like in the IF. 2047 01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:04.600 I almost want to pitch a category for best character 2048 01:41:04.680 --> 01:41:07.640 portraits for Gody, just to give this game, to give 2049 01:41:07.720 --> 01:41:09.720 Murray mac to Shadows. I love the character portraits so 2050 01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.399 much in Mermay Matt, So I'm wondering, like, oh, do 2051 01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:14.079 I need to look at Fields of Mystery now? Like 2052 01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:16.520 is it? Could that be in the running too? Basically 2053 01:41:16.520 --> 01:41:17.199 I do like that. 2054 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:19.039 As a as a running because I will say Fire 2055 01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:21.960 Moment has got some good character portraits too. Oh sure, 2056 01:41:22.199 --> 01:41:25.760 we didn't talk about none with gun Oh my gosh, 2057 01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:28.960 gun none. We got to leave some things as surprise 2058 01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:29.840 for the folks at home. 2059 01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:31.359 You know that. 2060 01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:34.119 Everyone's seen that screenshat. That's like the It may as 2061 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:36.319 well be the cover art of the game at this point. Yeah. 2062 01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:40.720 Yeah, my my fire emblem don't want none if she 2063 01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:45.760 ain't got gun hunt hunt. Yeah, yeah, there we go 2064 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:47.920 there that whoever give used the game, that can be 2065 01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:48.399 the title. 2066 01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:50.840 I'll let you'll let you have them. 2067 01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:54.199 Yeah, alrighty, Fields of Mystery I like I mentioned out 2068 01:41:54.239 --> 01:41:58.239 now on PC only in one point. Oh, I'm again. 2069 01:41:58.319 --> 01:41:59.840 It's I have a pile of games. I need the 2070 01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:02.680 gap between this and Token and also Big Walk. I 2071 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:04.000 still haven't h fired. 2072 01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:05.720 Oh yeah, Big Walk is so good. 2073 01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:07.960 I'm gonna be playing with my brother. I'm very excited. 2074 01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:11.359 Yeah, I'm playing with my girlfriend and I'm excited. 2075 01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:15.680 I've entered the phase where I can't replay Big Walk. 2076 01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:18.119 I might try and hop in with some people to 2077 01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:20.319 clear up some of their puzzles and help them out 2078 01:42:20.359 --> 01:42:23.720 and stuff, but you know, you can't ever really recapture 2079 01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:25.039 the first play through magic. 2080 01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:26.279 And so I've just been. 2081 01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:29.159 Watching other people play through it and on on streams 2082 01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:31.319 and on YouTube and stuff, and just to get a 2083 01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:33.079 little bit of the good feeling. 2084 01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:34.399 And it does hit. 2085 01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:36.920 It's it's very good. You should become to let me 2086 01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:41.720 solo her of Big Walk a Big Walk. And I 2087 01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:42.880 have other people that. 2088 01:42:44.239 --> 01:42:48.960 Just ruining the game, where people I love that there's ruining. 2089 01:42:49.119 --> 01:42:52.520 There's some tech out there. So there's speed running tech 2090 01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:54.840 that people already discovered where if you have the big 2091 01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:57.680 uh there, they kind of look like a yoga ball 2092 01:42:57.720 --> 01:43:00.319 that you go like cuckoo and it like lights up. 2093 01:43:01.439 --> 01:43:03.520 People have found a way to basically do a very 2094 01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:05.000 similar thing to what you would do in a Half 2095 01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:08.000 Life speed run where you just kind of drop the object, 2096 01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:09.880 hop on top of it and pick it back up 2097 01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:11.880 and then do that over and over again to just 2098 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:16.520 elevate yourself into the sky, uh and fly essentially. And 2099 01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:18.680 so it would be cool to just show up as like, 2100 01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:24.840 let me solo, let me solo walk, I walk alone, 2101 01:43:25.039 --> 01:43:27.199 and just pick up an orb and just take off 2102 01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:28.880 into the sky and finish the game. 2103 01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:31.079 Can you wear a pot on your head in this game? 2104 01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:35.479 No comment? I don't. I don't wanna. 2105 01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:39.960 I don't wanna spoil something there there there is a there's. 2106 01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:41.039 One of those. It's one of those. 2107 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.960 It's one of those something on your head is potentially spoil. Yeah, yeah, 2108 01:43:45.039 --> 01:43:47.880 there's a there's a pot on your head adjacent mechanic. 2109 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:52.479 Let's say, yeah, a pothead mechanic. Some might say, uh, 2110 01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:55.079 well yeah everyone. 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