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get started on something I want to talk to you about.

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I did get an email this week from Sarah and

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here is Sarah's question. My twelve year old Westipooh and interestingly,

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just another Pooh out there, because those poodles, boy, they're

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getting everywhere. They're mixing with sheet shows and Losses and

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Maltese and be Shans and labradors, so there are a

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lot of Poohs out there. Has recently started going to

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the bathroom in the house. I am thinking it is

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because of our very cold and snowy winter, but I

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wanted your opinion. She has also started panting quite a bit.

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Should I be well? Actually, Sarah, there are a couple

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of things that do concern me, and that is that

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dogs that are stuck inside but want to go out

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that are twelve years of age pretty much know the routine,

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and that routine is they're going outside. They actually know

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which door to go out. So when a dog is

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sort of truly stuck, but they also know where they're

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supposed to go, what do they got? That's where you're

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gonna find the mistake. And when you find it there,

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you can't even remotely begin to worry or get upset,

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because chances are they knew they had to go out,

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they knew it was time, But they know that nobody

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wanted to go out there in the cold and let

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them outside. So therefore they go usually right by, in

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my case, would be the back door. Now, when you

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have a twelve year old dog, however, especially a Westy

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and a lot of these breeds, the smaller breeds that

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are panting and nerves have that nerve and anxiety. The

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panting could be pain, could be nerves and anxiety, and

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it could be just because oh my god, I want

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to go out and Mom's not taking me. Therefore I'm

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starting to pant a lot, and I'm going to just

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go or I gotta go. But I would worry about

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some other urinary tract issues, and very commonly I'd be

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worried about stones, urinary bladder stones, and those can cause

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some anxiety. It gives them that sensation that they have

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to go more often, more frequently, and therefore they just

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may go wherever they are. We also have to worry

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about some sort of cystitis, which is an inflammation of

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the bladder. And again the bladder now that is inflamed,

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A can't fill up as much as it used to,

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and b because of the increased pressure being put on

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the bladder wall by whatever urine is in there, understanding

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of course that it is the pressure against the bladder

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wall that says the signal to the brain that you

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got to go. So when one has a thick and bladder,

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ask any woman that has a bladder infection, and they

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know you feel the urge to need to go every

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twenty minutes, and it's because the bladder wall is thick

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and it's lose its elasticity, and therefore that signal is

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being sent to the brain that your bladder is huge

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and you got to empty it way before it ever

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gets huge. And it's because of the thick and bladder

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So that too can cause this panting. So what I

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would recommend doing if it's still a problem is go

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have your twelve year old westpoo checked out by your veterinarian,

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running some simple tests, maybe your analysis, maybe a quick

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ultrasound of the bladder, and typically when we collect urine,

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we're going to use an ultrasound probe. Anyway, then we

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get a chance to look at the ultrasound, look at

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the bladder wall, see how thick it is, see how

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regular or irregular it is. Note if there are any

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stones or very large crystals inside, then make our decision

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that way. If everything is perfect, then maybe increase the walks.

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And also one last thing to think about is that

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a lot of dogs, especially spade females, as they get older,

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suffer from what's called urinary incontinence, and that's where the

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bladder sphincter is weak and they're not actively urinating in

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places they typically wouldn't, but when they're sleeping, the urine

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is leaking out. So then what happens is they wake

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up to a puddle of urine, so they know there

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was an accident. And for some dogs, especially if they're

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extremely well house trained, that is going to create anxiety.

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Uh ohiped, Mom's gonna get mad at me, and they

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therefore start the panting. So that is one other thing

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to check, and it's very important to note if you

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can observe the behavior, is she actively squatting to urinate

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or is she waking up from a nap or from

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her sleep and there's a puddle sitting there. There's a

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big difference between that is urinary incontinence and a bladder infection,

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bladder inflammation or some other cause of urine where she's

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actually breaking house training because of some underlying medical or

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physiologic reason. So, Sarah, thank you very much for the note.

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I'll be sending you an email. I want your home address,

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And I have a lot of good ideas for your

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twelve year old Westipoo female, because we have some good

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products for twelve year old dogs anyway, So why don't

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touch with me right away. Now. One of the things

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that I did want to mention and talk about, I

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don't remember two weeks ago we were live if we

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talked about Henry. Henry was or is I'm happy to

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say a probably a man. We're thinking seven or eight

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year old American Eskimo that was found on a street

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in Los Angeles, walking around aimlessly, weak as can be,

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with a basically a neck gash so large that you

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can literally see everything inside the neck and I'm talking muscles.

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You can actually see the trachia and a hole in

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the trachia because whatever bit poor Henry and Henry was

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just a name we gave him, clearly went through the

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neck mangled. I'm thinking a very large, aggressive, powerfully mouthed

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dog or even coyotes. We have done this to this dog,

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and we do see coyotes running loose and beingcoming more

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and more bold here in Los Angeles. So good Samaritan

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picked up this poor dog, taking him to a shelter

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for I'm sure what she thought would be euthanasia, and honestly,

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in this case, I would not have blamed anybody for

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putting his poor dog out of his misery. Well, one

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of the shelter volunteers thought that maybe Henry had a chance.

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So called one of the rescue groups, the rescu group

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that I don't work with, but the rescue group that's

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not really based here, at least the woman who manages

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the rescue is not based here. So she called a

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colleague of hers who is based here with a different

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rescue group. My friend Blake over at Rescue pet and

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Blake immediately called me, told me a little bit about

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the story and said, look, the vet that I want

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you to see is doctor Jeff. So she brings this

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dog in and I'm telling you, it was a disgusting

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site to see. I'm telling you. The exposed tissue was black.

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That means necrotic, that means dead, that means dying. There's

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no way to help it. The tissue around it that

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was wide open, the gap was five six inches wide,

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was also like leather. Now had no blood supply. It

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was dead, dying tissue. I called Blake. I said, Blake, no,

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this is not the kind of dog that we should

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be trying to put money into this dog is really

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it's suffering. So interestingly she this woman, and the woman said, look,

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the problem is we got this dog out because of

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a good Samaritan act, and we need to try something.

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So if he goes, he goes, but at least try

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for the next couple of days at least. So here

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it is the Thursday evening. I said, look, I'll do

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what I can, but really this is a hopeless case.

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But we'll do what we can. So sure enough we

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go ahead and start Henry on ivy fluids, start pumping

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them with antibiotics and vitamins and plenty of fluids, and

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by the next morning Henry actually came to life a

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little bit. He was able to at least sit up,

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hold his head up. And we then went ahead and

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an esthetized and did what we need to do to

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remove all the toxic tissue, this dead necrotic tissue from

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the area, trimming away tissue, skin muscle. In the course

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of doing this, we actually could visualize the trachia. It

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was amazing that the crowded ary and the jugular vein

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were not severed, and we see the traichia. I sew

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up to trachia. We close up as much of the

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defect as we could still had a very low defect.

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So now we're treating it what we call is an

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open wound with compresses and even sugar. Believe it or not,

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and it's healthy for the tissue. And waited a day,

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two days, three days, and it darned if Henry started

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didn't come coming to sitting up, starting to eat, And

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I'm amazed. We did a second procedure a couple of

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days later to remove some more dying skin and to

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actually fix and close some more of the gap. Well, ps,

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it's been two weeks now, Henry his gap, the granulation

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bed is almost complete. That means the body's own attempt

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to close and fix the defect. He is eating, he

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is breathing normally, he's not losing any air through the trachea.

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he's still you know, we're not one hundred percent there,

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but we're like ninety percent there. And I got to

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tell you that people are practically lining up to provide

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a forever home for this dog. It is just amazing.

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It's amazing, you know, it really what it did because

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I become I wouldn't say hard. Obviously, I opened my

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heart and my hospital to these rescue groups. But I've

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become very practical. I learned a lesson a long time

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ago that I like to call the lesson of the

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herd health mentality. When you're practicing small animal medicine, we

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rarely have to deal with this mentality called the herd

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health mentality. But my colleagues, my classmates, my friends that

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practice large animal medicine, I mean it happens all the time.

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And that loosely said is if you have a herd

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of sheep, for example, or a herd of cows, for example,

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and a few get sick, you're not as concerned with

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saving these two as you are as finding out what happened,

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what is the problem, because we can't afford to have

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whatever this disease is go through the entire herd. So

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if anything, instead of trying to save the one or two,

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you sacrifice them to do your post mortems, your nie cropsies,

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your find out what disease culturing and finding out what

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the disease is, and immediately trying to prevent this disease

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from spreading through the rest of the herd. Well, when

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you're dealing with rescues and these rescue groups, when you're

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dealing with the fact that you have thousands of animals

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that are literally on death row, that are going to

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be put to sleep tomorrow, that are extremely healthy and adoptable,

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you can't. You have to stop yourself as a rescuer

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from putting all this energy into one dog and spending

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several hundreds or sometimes even one thousand dollars on the

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one dog, when with a thousand dollars, you can pull

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out close to forty fifty animals from a shelter. So

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why spend your time and money on the one and

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one that may not even survive? And I'm continuously having

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this discussion with my rescue groups when they bring these

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animals in that really don't have much of a chance.

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You have to separate your bleeding heart from your practical

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heart and save hundreds instead of trying to save the one.

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And yet in this case, boy, good old Henry, those

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bleeding hearts won out, and I realized, you know what,

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here on cut Like Radio. I am your host, doctor

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Jeff Werber. And before we move on, we just finished

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in the first fifteen minutes and we were talking about Henry.

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I'd like to hear from me. I'd like to get

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some opinions, you know, just hearing the commercial from the

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new show from American Demain Association, I would love to

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hear what some of you have to say, if any

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of you are active in your local rescues rescue world.

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This is I know it's a great subject for open debate,

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and so why don't you give us a call? Come

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get the guts up eight seven seven three eight five

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eight eight eight two. Let me know how you feel

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about this concept of sometimes having to make these tough

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decisions on spending a lot on a few animals when

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you could take that money and pull hundreds out of shelters. Again,

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if you live in community as I do, where shelters

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are not no kill, they are kill shelters, Timing is everything,

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and you know it's amazing that sometimes we will h

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a day for these poor guys. Makes a difference they're

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there today and not there tomorrow because they are five

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days or seven days whatever we're up. So anyway, think

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about that. A couple of other things that I've been

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doing a lot of blogging and do a lot of blogging,

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and in addition to Pet Health Network, there seems to

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be a renewed interest I'm getting about toxins, but not

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your standard normal things that people know about. But now

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some of the things that people may not know about.

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A couple came to mind that we've been writing about.

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Most of you I know have heard of raisins and

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grapes being poisonous. The problem is we don't know which

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dogs might have this hyper sensitivity. It's not every in fact,

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it's probably not even a majority, but those that do

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it's very dangerous. And since there's nothing that we can

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test for, so you can take your dog into your

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veterinarian and say, can you run that test to see

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if my dog is going to be sensitive to raisins

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and grapes. So the recommendation now is we no longer

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let our dogs treat on razins grape. I iced to

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get my dog's rapes all the time and never had

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a problem, but obviously a lucky one. It didn't have

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this problem. And people here, you know here about chocolate.

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Chocolate's a little overrated. Baker's chocolate, pure, pure, unsweetened dark chocolate, yes,

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can be fairly toxic when by the time you start

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making it semi sweeter, especially milk chocolate or using the

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cocoa powder to make your chocolate cake or your icing,

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by that point they'd have to eat way enough, they'd

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be full before they eat, you know, they would get

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any kind of poisonous reaction. So you know, keep that

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in mind. Raw onions, raw garlic can be a problem.

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it seems like a lot of people don't realize. And

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maybe if you do, that's great, but one that's important

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would be xylotol. Now, what is xylotol. Xylotol is an

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active ingredient that's used as a sweetener, an artificial sweetener

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in a lot of chewing gums, sugarless gum especially, and

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also mints like little breath mints or you know, if

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you look at your ingredients, you're going to see xylotol,

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x yl i t o l be really care because

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xylotol is toxic to dogs and cats and can cause

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kidney disease, and so it's something you really need to

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know about and other things that really has a terrible

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effect on kidney's. It is being reformulated, interestingly because of

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a young girl who wrote to some of the manufacturers

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and started a whole campaign in her community that got

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something onto a ballot because her dog died from licking

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anti freeze. An anti freeze, one of the active ingredients

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is ethlene glycol, which has a very sweet sugary taste,

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and that too can be a problem. So just one

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thing to keep in mind. And it's not just not

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that they have to eat anti freeze from the bottle,

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but if you have a leak and a radiator and

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so the anti freeze leaks out of the radiator in

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the morning, you take the car away, and you got

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that little puddle there, and then unsuspecting dog, because it

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is smells good and is sweet, will go ahead and

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lap it up. Therein lies the problem what this little

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girl has succeeded in doing. Is now any, if not most,

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of the manufacturers have to put in a bittering agent

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into the anna freeze so the dogs will not find

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it palatable. I think that's amazing now speaking of something

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that I just learned for the first time yesterday. And

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I've been doing this for this is my thirtieth year.

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actively practices with this particular species, has heard of this

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disease but had never even seen it, and so this

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is how rare it is, but frightening. Nonetheless, I got

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a call yesterday from one of the big news shows,

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Inside Edition, and they want me to discuss a particular story.

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What is a story? The story is in June of

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twenty thirteen, a grandmother takes her grandson into a local

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pet co here in southern California. They're actually based in

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San Diego, and to buy a rat, A pet rat.

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How harmless is that I grew up? I had pet rats.

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In fact, of all the little rodents that people like

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to get for their kids to start their pets, I

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think rats are better than hampster's. Hampster's bite way more

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than they're better than mice. They bite way less than mice.

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And the other thing that's comparable as far as personality

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and cute is a guinea pig. And they don't bite

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very much either, so they've always been safe. Well, a

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few days after the purchase, this little boy starts getting sick.

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Grandma Mom thought it was a flu, headache, fever, chills.

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Then the boy started exhibiting symptoms of weakness, pain, and

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the legs and the joints had a tough time walking.

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Then it went to the I guess the brain because

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he couldn't speak. Rushed him to the hospital after collapsing,

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and a day later, this ten year old boy was dead.

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And what happened, Well, it turns out there is an

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infectionate bacterium that is present in many many, many, if

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not most rats. It's in their mucous tissues, it's in

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their body fluids like saliva like the naser fringal fluids,

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So any discharge from a nose, their eyes, their urine,

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their feces, and it's called strepto basillis manila formis, and

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it is a streptoccle b bacterium that can cause this

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disease depending on strength, on how powerful or viral the

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bacterium is. And it can be transmitted of course a

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rat bite. So a little rat nipples on your finger,

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you don't think twice about it. It can even be

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transmitted in urine feces. So check this one out. Your

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kid is playing with a rat that urinated on itself. Okay,

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then you're calling in for a snack, and you made

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a wonderful little peanut butter and jelly sandwich form or

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you made them popcorn. And the kid goes into the

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kitchen and starts eating his popcorn of course with his hands,

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eating his jelly peanut butter and jelly sandwich of course

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with his hands, and he can ingest this bacterium. And

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so the take home lesson don't not get rats. That's

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not the answer. It's so rare, but just to be

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smart playing with a rat before you eat, wash your hands.

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And it's true for dogs. Your cats, your anything, Wash

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your hands before you eat. If you get a rat bite,

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clean it well with soap and water, a little disinfectant

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with little beatade, the little chlorhexidine. Then maybe put it

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on the osporn on it and keep an eye on it.

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If it looks like it's turning into an infected bite,

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go to the doctor. Some antibiotics is an easy, easy,

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very effective solution to the problem. But you need to

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recognize the problem. So my recommendation is be smart, be practical.

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As I said, the reason why we don't get sicker

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from our pets is because we are smart. We wash

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our hands before eating after we play with them, and

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that's how for example, certain parasites can even be transmitted

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to kids from our dogs. Am I saying don't get dogs?

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Of course not. I have five dogs and I have

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eight cats. But you just have to practice a little

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common sense, a little hygiene, and you can easily still

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have these pets. But something that I just wanted to

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share with you because I just found out about it,

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and that's how uncommon this problem is. Inside edition. If

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you're in the West side of Los Angeles three point

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thirty today k CAL channel nine, then you get to

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watch the segment on Inside Edition. Anyway, our time is up.

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I want to thank you all for joining me once again.

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