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Speaker 1: Let's see Jody's in there. V five SAR saw him
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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys being here tonight. Thank you for the support.
Speaker 1: So you might recognize that we have maybe done this
Speaker 1: intenna bill before, okay, and if you do recognize that,
Speaker 1: I would like to thank you for watching my live
Speaker 1: streams because you saw that live stream back last earlier
Speaker 1: this year, like maybe March April sometime in there, and
Speaker 1: they we'll talk about this, I'm sure after I bring
Speaker 1: them on. But they they didn't send me all the parts,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't build it on stream. So we watched
Speaker 1: Chuck build it, which he did a better job than
Speaker 1: I probably gonna do anyway. And then that was one
Speaker 1: of the live streams that disappeared. Yes, Jody, that was
Speaker 1: one of the live streams that disappeared, because the Thursday
Speaker 1: before him Vention, I wake up in the morning and
Speaker 1: we're at the campground at him Vention. I look at
Speaker 1: my channel and all of my live streams from twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four were just gone. So opened a ticket with
Speaker 1: YouTube and went through a few things, and they were
Speaker 1: able to restore some of them, and I restored a
Speaker 1: few more of them myself. But some of them, like
Speaker 1: this one, I'm like, well, you know what, they've sent
Speaker 1: me the parts for the kid. I still got the kit.
Speaker 1: They sent me the parts for it that I was
Speaker 1: missing when we couldn't do the live stream the first time.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let's just do another live stream, So
Speaker 1: why not? So here we are. So I appreciate, appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys showing up for that tonight. There is a
Speaker 1: link to this intene kit in the description. Will probably
Speaker 1: show that here in a minute as well, but uh
Speaker 1: I will talk about that here in a second. And uh,
Speaker 1: I just want to right now before we get started,
Speaker 1: I want to point out that I made a bunch
Speaker 1: of updates to my website. Right here. You might recognize
Speaker 1: some new stuff here. I have antennas right here, and
Speaker 1: some of these I haven't stocked the Dfhong stuff I
Speaker 1: carry in stock, but these Phara Jay antennas, and these
Speaker 1: Mellow Wave and the Signal sticks, these are all of
Speaker 1: my affiliate links here and they go directly to the website.
Speaker 1: So like view on VF Coms right there and boom
Speaker 1: it comes up. So you're buying that directly from VF Comms.
Speaker 1: The pharajay. I'm not selling that to you. I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you a link to it to my website. Same
Speaker 1: thing as here. Like that. So perhaps I will add
Speaker 1: some of these cartenas to this section of my website
Speaker 1: which I'm expanding. We do have some mystery boxes left
Speaker 1: or some twenty five dollars mystery boxes left in there,
Speaker 1: and inside of those is some of this stuff. I
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Speaker 1: I think Frank's mugs are still there. These are on
Speaker 1: pre order right now. He's gonna want to talk about
Speaker 1: this later, so I'll let him tell you about that later.
Speaker 1: But that that is still a thing on the website. Hello,
Speaker 1: there we go, there it is, and go check that out.
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Speaker 1: Radio two dot com. And you can find that. So
Speaker 1: all right, let's bring them on. I hear them talking
Speaker 1: in the background here and now you can see them.
Speaker 1: You can hear them, but they still can't hear me.
Speaker 1: Probably by okay, here we go. Let's up. Guys, were
Speaker 1: just talking about you, I know, I know, I forge.
Speaker 1: I had you muted on the on obs and I
Speaker 1: had myself muted to you, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew that part.
Speaker 3: We were wondering if you could hear us, if we
Speaker 3: yelled real loud in the can.
Speaker 1: I could hear. I could hear you yelling, but I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell what you were saying.
Speaker 4: So it was nothing good.
Speaker 5: I wasn't just me.
Speaker 2: They said something about a wrong link or something.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the wrong link to the aries antenna in
Speaker 3: the show notes, is it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's our fault. We upgraded it. Well, we'll humbly
Speaker 5: follow On the sword.
Speaker 1: I did you know when I pulled that up from
Speaker 1: my computer upstairs and it was showing fine, And then
Speaker 1: when I came into the shack and pulled it up,
Speaker 1: it said we've moved go to coffee and him ridos
Speaker 1: dot com and I'm like, it's not on Square site. Anymore.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know the square sucks.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, okay, I can definitely say on stream, live
Speaker 4: in front of a humongous audience, square sucks.
Speaker 1: Square sucks. Okay from again post that link or yeah
Speaker 1: we will uh we will get that fixed in the because.
Speaker 2: I can't post, and I'll get it out there.
Speaker 3: In the zoom chat.
Speaker 5: Okay mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't have the Coffee Hood Radio notes up.
Speaker 1: So I did this today.
Speaker 5: It's always part.
Speaker 1: I already did that part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the hardest part.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I know. Yeah, that was the hardest
Speaker 1: part was the part that Uh so I went back
Speaker 1: and watched the video, the video that's no longer on
Speaker 1: YouTube because I downloaded my live streams and then I
Speaker 1: ripped ripped the audio out and no, I've always done that.
Speaker 1: I ripped the audio out and I upload them to
Speaker 1: a podcast episodes on the podcasting audio only podcasting service.
Speaker 1: So you can find those everywhere, uh, Spotify, iTunes, SoundCloud,
Speaker 1: all the.
Speaker 2: All the just search radio and you'll find it.
Speaker 1: Well, you can, yeah, you will find those as well.
Speaker 1: If you want to find something interesting, you'd search for
Speaker 1: just tam Radio two point zero same logo and everything.
Speaker 1: So but so I so I was watching this Chuck,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, I know I remember because it
Speaker 1: was several months ago. I was I remember Chuck building this,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't remember how many turns it was. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you guys to tie. But Ape made
Speaker 1: a big how are you doing that?
Speaker 4: It bested up. It wasn't supposed to do that.
Speaker 1: Was it not supposed to follow you? It's following you.
Speaker 3: I'm just it was supposed to follow me.
Speaker 4: But then it followed the beer, and then it just
Speaker 4: you know, like beer, what it's like.
Speaker 1: Trying to show you the sounds like a smart It
Speaker 1: sounds like okay, oklahoma, Okay.
Speaker 4: It's everything smart these days? Is not smart enough?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? So? Uh so, yeah, apparently it was a One
Speaker 1: of the points of discussion on the last live stream
Speaker 1: was that the reason you guys chose nine turns on
Speaker 1: this because Ape was talking about how the fact you
Speaker 1: had tested five and seven turns and you saw a
Speaker 1: minimal difference between saying right, you said something like seven
Speaker 1: turns performed a little bit better, but it was the
Speaker 1: the level that it performed better was minuscule. Compared to
Speaker 1: nine turns.
Speaker 4: And well, it's the difference between thirty two ground radios
Speaker 4: and sixty four ground radials, like just enough to win
Speaker 4: a race, but not enough to spend any money on.
Speaker 4: And we're not racing, so we're okay, that.
Speaker 1: Makes sense, Okay, all right, well but that's you're driven
Speaker 1: a race car before. That's yeah, So this is it?
Speaker 1: Make sure, yeah, make sure.
Speaker 2: That Drew does that count?
Speaker 1: This is it right here? So I I started here,
Speaker 1: and I hope you guys can see that, because my
Speaker 1: zoom was messed up on you guys earlier. But I
Speaker 1: started here and I put a zip tie around it,
Speaker 1: and then I wound it nine times, with the last
Speaker 1: one coming out the back here. But the question I
Speaker 1: had that I didn't hear us discuss on the last
Speaker 1: one was does it matter what order these three colors
Speaker 1: are in? I kept them the same. I kept them
Speaker 1: the same, and I put them the way that chucked
Speaker 1: at them on the live stream on the last stream.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't sure if that mattered. So explain that.
Speaker 6: Explain what it just matters for the diagram. It doesn't
Speaker 6: really matter, okay, But if you're if you hook it
Speaker 6: up the way the diagram is, and you don't have
Speaker 6: the wires like somebody over there did.
Speaker 4: Well, first, the diagram is left handed. Let's put that
Speaker 4: out there. The diagram is less left hand because they
Speaker 4: all this because they Yeah, it only matters in terms
Speaker 4: of st I told you that you marry the right
Speaker 4: colors in the right order. It doesn't matter which spiral,
Speaker 4: crazy stupid you make them on the to roid nor
Speaker 4: He doesn't care, but we as human start tweaking.
Speaker 2: So so we're picking on smoking ape who's not here
Speaker 2: don and points out it's all marked night.
Speaker 3: Marked night son.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's his Yeah, that's his excuse on
Speaker 1: Friday nights when we do the Happy r too. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how many Hallmark nights
Speaker 1: there are in a week. I'm thinking I'm thinking it's
Speaker 1: like seven, it's on every day.
Speaker 3: I think it's Jason. I think it's code for the
Speaker 3: old lady won't let me stream again?
Speaker 5: Right now?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I think that's yeah, yeah, it's kind of
Speaker 1: I get that to get that impression.
Speaker 5: Myself got the collar, that's right.
Speaker 1: But okay, so here's everything that I've got.
Speaker 6: Give me what colors do you have on your wires.
Speaker 1: On on these on the tour Royd wires red, black,
Speaker 1: and blue? Okay, good, which I think is the same
Speaker 1: as you had, Chuck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we had to I think we changed to
Speaker 6: gray on one of the colors because we couldn't get
Speaker 6: one of the colors. Oh okay, that is that's solid
Speaker 6: core wire. That solid core wire actually sticks when you
Speaker 6: bend in around. Stays better for one. And we found
Speaker 6: a problem getting it, and we bought some different wire.
Speaker 6: T O thought he found it and it was hard.
Speaker 6: Even though it was the same gauge, it was thicker
Speaker 6: and wouldn't fit. And we're like, that won't work because
Speaker 6: the thickness of the jack the wire gauge thick.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh yeah so that yeah, the jacket.
Speaker 6: Was so then we had to pick instead of having
Speaker 6: the same colors that we had originally, we I think
Speaker 6: we went with the ray if I remember, but I
Speaker 6: forget which I think the blue we could. I want
Speaker 6: to do red, white and blue, but we couldn't get
Speaker 6: all the colors.
Speaker 1: Oh, that didn't work.
Speaker 5: That didn't work. Well, that's at least at that time.
Speaker 1: At least that okay, all right, well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: obviously the colors don't matter. But my question was was
Speaker 1: when I asked that a second. My question was mainly
Speaker 1: around if if it's gonna be like I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess according to the diagram, if as long as you like,
Speaker 1: do the the red to the red and the blue
Speaker 1: to the blue, if you're going to be the same.
Speaker 6: So if you get the wires wrong, just make a
Speaker 6: note of what you have, how you have it, what
Speaker 6: order you have them.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 6: And then like if you have black where red goes,
Speaker 6: then black is now red on the on the chart.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay it makes sense. Yes, yeah it does, it
Speaker 1: does make sense. I've got the chart here, let me
Speaker 1: pull it up.
Speaker 5: I wish I could get bigger.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the this is the website where the
Speaker 1: where the sale pages here, So you guys have it.
Speaker 1: And I've got that same yellow element wire as well. Orange,
Speaker 1: I guess that's orange, not yellow colored whatever.
Speaker 5: Orange.
Speaker 1: It's like a whitish orange. It's not a very bright
Speaker 1: orange orange enough orange.
Speaker 6: Enough, probably because the sof fans around it.
Speaker 5: It looks really good on the winder though. Look at that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I agree, no, I do agree. It does
Speaker 1: look good like that.
Speaker 3: But it will fade, and then in the sun it
Speaker 3: does fade.
Speaker 5: You probably never go outside, so.
Speaker 6: Jim's is perfect.
Speaker 5: Oh that's right, your intends outside.
Speaker 1: And then this one, this is the build page here,
Speaker 1: and I just want to make sure I've got all
Speaker 1: this stuff. I want to make sure I got everything
Speaker 1: because I put this together last time. Well, I put
Speaker 1: it in this camera, so I put the sore. We're
Speaker 1: probably we probably are about halfway done through it. But
Speaker 1: this I just put the stud in here, which I
Speaker 1: think is the ground lug, I'm not sure. And then
Speaker 1: I attached the B and C with the the little
Speaker 1: lip on it right here, and I'll show that on
Speaker 1: the overhead here in a minute.
Speaker 6: Wh that side right towards towards that that bolt, the
Speaker 6: side of the bolt, yeah.
Speaker 1: Towards the s yes, correct, towards the side of the bolt.
Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, it's here's the bolt. Here's the bolt here,
Speaker 1: and it's the little lip on it's right there.
Speaker 2: So the soldering point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I put that together. I put that together
Speaker 1: last time. So when I opened up my kid, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I already did that sots, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't anything to that because that was as far
Speaker 1: as we got. Because I couldn't because the next step
Speaker 1: is the wind the toroid, and I didn't have the
Speaker 1: wire for it, so uh but I used my own.
Speaker 1: It came with these black Let me switch back to
Speaker 1: this overhead view here because I like that better.
Speaker 5: Right here.
Speaker 1: It came with these black zip ties, and I used
Speaker 1: a bright orange or bright yellow zip tie, like a
Speaker 1: like a char truce colored if you guys are fishermen,
Speaker 1: a shark truse colored.
Speaker 4: Sorry, there's only eight colors origin yeh, yeah, because it's truce.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's like a it's like a bright yellow.
Speaker 3: Oh so that's yellow or green okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah right yeah, greenish yellow kind of. But but there,
Speaker 1: and there's everything right I've got right there. I think
Speaker 1: that's probably everything that. I've got an extra nut and
Speaker 1: bolt right there. I've got four ring terminals, small ring terminals.
Speaker 1: Of course, this is the radiating element or the element wire.
Speaker 1: And then we've got the heat shrink right here. It
Speaker 1: goes around it when we're done, I assume. So, but
Speaker 1: that's everything there. So the instructions once again are right here.
Speaker 1: And those are just linked from the website as I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't. There's not any special thing there. If you
Speaker 1: go to the Coffy and Hen Radio's website right here
Speaker 1: and you click it's build instructions right here, it takes
Speaker 1: you to uh, yep, it's a bitly link, but it's this.
Speaker 1: It's this ge hub link right.
Speaker 3: Here, coffeeinhem radios dot com. And then all this stuff
Speaker 3: is on that website.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, but it's I mean, it's pretty straightforward really.
Speaker 1: So the first step is to take a look at
Speaker 1: the antenter wander. She's a Butte Clark ship. Find the
Speaker 1: screw and the nut in your kit and put it
Speaker 1: together like that right there, which we have.
Speaker 2: And that's going to be the anchor point later.
Speaker 4: Correct, yeah, yeah, And then the next step is like
Speaker 4: three and a half hours.
Speaker 5: The other steps are like two seconds.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: This one here is the long one.
Speaker 1: It didn't. It took me maybe twenty minutes to wind.
Speaker 1: Not take that long.
Speaker 3: It's not it's really not an easy one.
Speaker 5: It's hard.
Speaker 4: It's just it's tedious.
Speaker 5: Going to make sure you don't cross things.
Speaker 1: Ye yes, yes, I was. I was being careful not
Speaker 1: to cross things. And also I noticed that since the
Speaker 1: wire is rather rigid when you when you when you
Speaker 1: wind it around the toll roid and put it back
Speaker 1: through the center of the toll roid and you start
Speaker 1: to pull it down off the other end, it seemed
Speaker 1: to me like the wire was trying to twist on itself,
Speaker 1: like trying to roll up an extension cord where they
Speaker 1: twist together, so you had to kind of be careful
Speaker 1: not to twist it too much. So I just I
Speaker 1: was just I just did it slowly and it worked.
Speaker 1: It worked fine, it with any big deal. But that's
Speaker 1: but it took, you know, like I said, it took
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe twenty minutes for me to
Speaker 1: do that. I just turned the t turn the TV on,
Speaker 1: and sat down, put my glasses on. I could see
Speaker 1: what I was doing.
Speaker 2: Question for you guys, So Jason has the wire kind
Speaker 2: of bunched up there at the end, so he has
Speaker 2: like good some good spacing, good spacing, good spacing. By
Speaker 2: the end, it's like bunched up. Is that? Okay?
Speaker 6: Yeah, perfectly fine, But you just well, what I usually
Speaker 6: do is when I get done, just kind of trying
Speaker 6: space everything is even as possible before.
Speaker 3: I okay, now, Chucks toroids are a work of art,
Speaker 3: but they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't live.
Speaker 2: Up to Chucks level. You're trying our.
Speaker 1: Best there, I I kind of and I did. I
Speaker 1: did space this out a little bit like you. Like
Speaker 1: I was trying to make physical binds, like there's a
Speaker 1: physical bend around this tour right here here, so I
Speaker 1: would I would kind of press down on it and
Speaker 1: press down on this side when i'd winder around there.
Speaker 1: So I was trying to do that, and it was
Speaker 1: it was a little bit harder to I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to get all nine
Speaker 1: of them around there. I was looking at it's like
Speaker 1: it's fit, it's got a fit it and it did
Speaker 1: it fit because that's nine if you count it. But
Speaker 1: that's uh, but that's where that is. So I hope
Speaker 1: I got enough length on this side. And it looks
Speaker 1: like we've got a lot of extra on this side
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're you're pretty good. Okay, there only needs to
Speaker 6: be one one long wire.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well good, we've got that.
Speaker 6: So now I'm gonna ends up being one of the
Speaker 6: red ones. Yeah, because that's your your will be your
Speaker 6: antenna lead at least.
Speaker 1: See I can I can move this if I need
Speaker 1: to a little bit because it is there. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are separated, but they are next to each other over here.
Speaker 6: So it's you can't keep from doing that. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 6: if we if we went to the next size small
Speaker 6: or a wire, it would probably but then it wouldn't
Speaker 6: be quite as robust.
Speaker 1: Well what if you what if you go to the
Speaker 1: next size to roid up?
Speaker 5: Then wouldn't that.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's well, I mean, well that's three D printed.
Speaker 1: You could just change that.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't typically not three D printed, but technically three
Speaker 4: D printed.
Speaker 5: That makes a big.
Speaker 1: Difference professional three D printing.
Speaker 4: It's it's nylon, it's multi jet fusion injection.
Speaker 6: Hm, it's infield because it's basically a powder.
Speaker 4: Take that and try and break it. See if you
Speaker 4: can break it.
Speaker 3: Please don't do that, Jason.
Speaker 2: We want to finish this stream.
Speaker 1: You want me to see I'll break this if you
Speaker 1: really want.
Speaker 5: To break it.
Speaker 6: If you if you could break you won't break it
Speaker 6: under normal use?
Speaker 1: How normal use?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it won't it won't.
Speaker 4: I would assume you'd WinCE before you broke it, because like,
Speaker 4: why would I do this?
Speaker 5: This is hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But then also if you said in your car unlike
Speaker 6: like p l A, it won't twist all up and
Speaker 6: be crooked when you take it out of the car.
Speaker 2: This is be honest. I love this winder, like like
Speaker 2: you said, is the best printed winder out there. It's rucketed, strong,
Speaker 2: and I I love it. I love it. So I'm
Speaker 2: literally saying that because I bought all my kits from
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 4: Just just to be specific, these winders are like seventy
Speaker 4: five percent of the cost of the antenna. And you
Speaker 4: you guys who do D printing, you know that if
Speaker 4: you were to three D print this yourself, it would
Speaker 4: be like thirty seven cents. So out of the seventy
Speaker 4: five eighty five dollars that this kit costs, the winder
Speaker 4: is most of that cost because we want to put
Speaker 4: some quality in there and make sure it lasts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you had the winder in the wild idea,
Speaker 6: the one hundred foot of wire that you're pretty much
Speaker 6: the most important part cost.
Speaker 3: Yeah, plus which the scale because you can't I mean
Speaker 3: maybe now with a newer printer, but those things take
Speaker 3: a minute to print. And then if we're trying to
Speaker 3: get enter fifteen up done.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, I hear you. You have Have you
Speaker 1: ever printed one into pet G?
Speaker 5: Yes, I have. Okay, I'm printing the essay now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Say it's the best.
Speaker 1: You think that's better than So one of the one
Speaker 1: of the mesh tastic cases I have is done in
Speaker 1: pet G. And they say that. I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to leave it in my truck. In texts
Speaker 1: they're like, no, it'll be okay that one. Uh no,
Speaker 1: not that.
Speaker 2: One too close, back off, back off the no.
Speaker 1: But I have that one, Jim his first half. I
Speaker 1: have that one.
Speaker 3: I know, right, I think this is this. This might
Speaker 3: be nylon, Jason, I'm not sure, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one, that one, I'm not sure what that
Speaker 1: is that But that's not the one I'm talking. I
Speaker 1: have one from Spec five that's done in pet G.
Speaker 3: PEG should be fine outside, it has excellent heat resistance.
Speaker 5: So so this is as a.
Speaker 6: Fancy and I also put if you look at the sides,
Speaker 6: also put like a it's called I forget what they
Speaker 6: call it, but this is like it makes a nice
Speaker 6: little grip and it takes you don't see any lines.
Speaker 3: In it at all.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: And then that's what the bottom looks like.
Speaker 6: And it doesn't want to focus here, Hang on, that's
Speaker 6: all right, But this stuff is I think a s A.
Speaker 6: I've done Pegg and I've done this, and I like,
Speaker 6: you prefer this. You have to have a heated enclosure.
Speaker 6: You have enclosure to do that though. That's why a
Speaker 6: lot of people like PG because you don't have to
Speaker 6: enclose it. That's pretty good too.
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, okay, it's it's.
Speaker 5: Been deier though.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do so co hosting jobs. What's what's the
Speaker 2: next step.
Speaker 1: The next step is for me to wait for my
Speaker 1: camera to come back.
Speaker 2: On over the show here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't you know. I've changed power supplies,
Speaker 1: I've changed USBK or I'm sorry, HD my cables. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't I guess it's something internal with
Speaker 1: the camera. I'm gonna have to probably.
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about sending it back last streak.
Speaker 1: We were, and you know, and quite frankly, it's probably HI.
Speaker 1: They've got they've got a this is a G this
Speaker 1: is a G fifty Canon Vixie a G fifty, and
Speaker 1: they've got a new one that's out and this one's
Speaker 1: actually not that old.
Speaker 2: But I wonder just running it straight, not through the logos.
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of Delgatto, by the way, that's
Speaker 4: what Frank's talking about. Mm hmm Frank Frank pronounces al
Speaker 4: Gatto as logos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the video capture card. Maybe maybe there's another
Speaker 2: way of running it.
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with the no I
Speaker 1: because I can see, Okay, hold on a sec, let
Speaker 1: me fix it.
Speaker 2: It's going on a little longer. Oh well, he's doing that.
Speaker 2: I did have a question I wrote down. We were
Speaker 2: talking about different wires and if you're going to try
Speaker 2: to wine this yourself and kit this out yourself, because
Speaker 2: you do show everything that you use for this kit.
Speaker 2: Is there a difference between solid core and stranded core?
Speaker 4: What just has more of a strength to it. It
Speaker 4: just wraps the core tighter. It's it's actually harder to
Speaker 4: work with but makes a better finished product.
Speaker 2: But but as far as electrical everything's it should perform.
Speaker 5: Twelve betch wires twelve gage.
Speaker 3: Theoretically have more surface area with stranded wire, but the
Speaker 3: difference is thirty two and sixty or radios.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was it's just a question to give some.
Speaker 1: No that's fine question. Yeah, it is a good question.
Speaker 1: I saw another question there to answer your question about
Speaker 1: my camera, Frank, my video camera right now that I'm
Speaker 1: looking at has a screen on it, and I look
Speaker 1: at the screen, I can see myself on the screen
Speaker 1: on the camera, and it goes off. So it goes
Speaker 1: off before it ever comes down through the capture card.
Speaker 1: So it's not a cap. And my overhead that is
Speaker 1: right here. Hi, how are you doing? Hi? That is
Speaker 1: on the same cap. I've got the go to for
Speaker 1: four port capture card. Then it's a camera issue.
Speaker 2: It's the last thing I'm going to throw out you
Speaker 2: maybe because it does feel like it's kind of regular,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a sleep setting.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm done right.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't come back on by itself. If it was
Speaker 1: a sleep setting, it would go to sleep and then
Speaker 1: you'd have to ticket or something.
Speaker 5: Fancy French words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually it comes back on myself, but English, but
Speaker 1: he can pronounce. For now, we can troubleshoot my my
Speaker 1: camera at the later date. Today we're building an antenna.
Speaker 2: So so we got the the to words round and
Speaker 2: now we're going to start mounting it.
Speaker 6: Let's set your your tour right up, so that it's
Speaker 6: red black blue on top and then red black blue
Speaker 6: on the bottom in that order.
Speaker 1: It made like this. Can you see that barely?
Speaker 5: Okay, Chuck's a little color blind like I am.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, red black blue is the order. It is
Speaker 1: on the top one here, and then when it comes
Speaker 1: out to the bottom, it's the same at the bottom.
Speaker 1: And someone asked in the chat earlier, did I wind
Speaker 1: these together or individually? I wound them together. I unrolled them.
Speaker 1: They were individually rolled up. They were just rolled up
Speaker 1: in a little They came in this sleeve.
Speaker 2: Here separately, and so let's.
Speaker 1: Get they separately. So i'd unrolled them all. I put
Speaker 1: them together in the order that I saw in Chuck's
Speaker 1: last video, and I put it and I wound them
Speaker 1: all together.
Speaker 5: Let's do this. Let's do this.
Speaker 6: Take the top red one, uh huh, and the and
Speaker 6: the black bottom one and just kind of twist. Take
Speaker 6: them over to the side and twist them together.
Speaker 1: Top red and black bottom.
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, okay, look at Chuck trying to move us along.
Speaker 6: And then the then the top black one and the
Speaker 6: bottom blue one together, so top of twist.
Speaker 1: Got it? Are we gonna untwist these.
Speaker 5: Later, you're gonna you're gonna slide them together.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, eventually eventually, okay, all right, and then.
Speaker 6: The bottom red one, it will be your antenna leite,
Speaker 6: so that'll that'll wrap around into the back when you
Speaker 6: put it on, so the opposite end of where it's
Speaker 6: at now, so you can just get out of the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, the bottom the bottom red that's that's this one
Speaker 1: right here.
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm assuming that you're following what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because it doesn't look the same for me.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, well is it is the zoom still
Speaker 1: freezing it.
Speaker 2: It's lagging a bit, but it's also a little bit pixelated.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be a that's gonna well, they just did
Speaker 1: a zoom update. It's gonna be something zoom because you
Speaker 1: guys look fine to me. The stream looks stream is good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stream is good. So, yes, this is the bottom
Speaker 1: red one. I've got you, chuck, no problem. Okay, So
Speaker 1: we got the top blue one separated by itself now
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 6: Okay, the top blue one, we'll go to your eventually,
Speaker 6: we'll go to your your ground lug.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 6: So it'll stay by itself. The redmonen will be your
Speaker 6: antenna leads those both of those don't get soldered in anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, good dual. All right, so what's next?
Speaker 6: Then the top thread, the top bread and the bottom
Speaker 6: black are gonna be your center of your B and C.
Speaker 6: So you're gonna you're gonna you can make tick one.
Speaker 6: Just pick one of them to be longer, and then
Speaker 6: right at the uh right, just just like an eighth
Speaker 6: of an inch away from the tour roid sorder the
Speaker 6: two together and just keep one of them long.
Speaker 1: I would have to. So you want me to strip them, because.
Speaker 6: They yeah, about about about a quarter inch away from
Speaker 6: the core igous stripped.
Speaker 4: So take the red and black wire and make them
Speaker 4: into one long wire. However you feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 1: I get that. I just I wrapped them together and
Speaker 1: they're still insulated, so I'm gonna have to unwrap them.
Speaker 6: You can, you can just yeah, yeah, oh I didn't
Speaker 6: want to. I just wanted to kind of want a
Speaker 6: little wrap just so.
Speaker 4: That's just for identification, Jason, just to just to get
Speaker 4: you into the like, now you know that this goes here,
Speaker 4: that goes there, that goes there. Now we can start
Speaker 4: working with them.
Speaker 6: You can like just a little ways away from the
Speaker 6: tour riid strip them all the way.
Speaker 5: Who cares nothing.
Speaker 6: I mean everything's like shorty together anyhow, It's not like
Speaker 6: it's right pretty much. Okay, I've gotten to where I
Speaker 6: just take liquid tape later if I want to isolate
Speaker 6: something and just put that on there.
Speaker 1: He am just am I not going to cut these
Speaker 1: down or what?
Speaker 6: Yeah, once you solve those two together, you can you
Speaker 6: can twist those two together, and you can twist the
Speaker 6: other two together.
Speaker 4: So so let me put this out there real quick, Chuck.
Speaker 4: We're going to put this together. And there's no way
Speaker 4: that you can make a mistake that isn't recoverable. Oh okay,
Speaker 4: good because you'll have plenty of spare wire to fix
Speaker 4: a mistake or you know, like look at this as
Speaker 4: a learning process. Your your first and this is not
Speaker 4: your first antenna, Bill Jason. But for the chat, your
Speaker 4: first antenna build is going to go sideways in thirty
Speaker 4: seven different manners, and we're here to help you. We
Speaker 4: can we can solve these problems. This is this is
Speaker 4: not a big deal.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, good to know.
Speaker 4: If you had four different people telling you instructions like
Speaker 4: we are right now, you're gonna get four different ways
Speaker 4: of doing this.
Speaker 7: True.
Speaker 6: The other two that you had together, you can just
Speaker 6: pretty much cut them like a little ways away and
Speaker 6: twist them and twist them together. Well'll twist them together first,
Speaker 6: and then just cut them and solder and just right
Speaker 6: by the right by the tour roid. You probably can
Speaker 6: see that.
Speaker 1: Let me let me finish this from first, because I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm going, I'm okay, So I've stripped those down,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna I'm gonna twist them together. I'll put
Speaker 1: I'll twist them together two or three times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: And then the black one is the one that you are.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter at that point that the same wire
Speaker 1: right so direct.
Speaker 6: The one thing you do want to check is kind
Speaker 6: of center your tour right to make sure you don't
Speaker 6: wrap them too far to where you can't have a
Speaker 6: straight piece and get it in that B and C.
Speaker 5: Does that makes sense?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: So so, so those wires that you're twisting together are
Speaker 6: gonna go into the center of the B and C.
Speaker 5: So just the opposite way of you have it.
Speaker 4: I see like this, So you don't want to lay
Speaker 4: it on a frame and take a look at it.
Speaker 5: Yep, there you go.
Speaker 6: You don't want to twist it so far that you
Speaker 6: can't that you have two of them. You don't you
Speaker 6: want a single wire because only a single wire will
Speaker 6: go in there.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Okay, all right, okay, we yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes you can. Just we're getting closer and we're just
Speaker 1: gonna we're just gonna solder these together before we put
Speaker 1: it into the B and C.
Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, so real fast, Jason, what wire strippers
Speaker 2: do you have the see.
Speaker 1: If these are I got these at AutoZone like ten
Speaker 1: years ago. It's just AutoZone special. That's all there. There's
Speaker 1: not there's nothing special. I'm pretty sure I've got a
Speaker 1: pair of those on my Amazon store somewhere as well.
Speaker 3: Those look like the Irwin ones. Those are, yes, they are.
Speaker 5: They're good.
Speaker 3: But those are decent, dude, those are yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I've had them for ten years. They weren't great.
Speaker 1: I never had a problem with them. So but I
Speaker 1: mean they were like twelve bucks. They're not expensive.
Speaker 3: They're not expensive, and they're awesome wire cutters.
Speaker 1: Okay, So if I go here.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're a little tough On'm not the right account.
Speaker 5: I can't link in the chat.
Speaker 1: I noticed that earlier. Steve, you were you were?
Speaker 2: If you want to throw it in the in our
Speaker 2: our chat, I will forward it long.
Speaker 3: Frank, don't hand out no wrenches. I can't no wrenches
Speaker 3: around here.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: O has a wrench. He's just on the wrong account.
Speaker 4: It's a problem with Firefox. I don't know how to
Speaker 4: fix it because I've actually wiped out all my cookies
Speaker 4: and stored settings and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Let you log into the other account.
Speaker 4: I'm logged in as my ham radio channel, and the
Speaker 4: chat shows up as my r V channel, and I
Speaker 4: right right during the beginning of the stream, I switched over,
Speaker 4: switched back, and it's it's a Firefox thing.
Speaker 5: It's a mess.
Speaker 4: I can go into a whole different browser and set
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 5: It's a mess.
Speaker 1: I have to get those closer together, I think, because
Speaker 1: it's awfully close to that. It's awfully close to that
Speaker 1: B and C. Once you put that toroid in the
Speaker 1: center of that winder.
Speaker 5: Ye, the thing you have to watch for. We used
Speaker 5: to have more, make it longer. We can cut it
Speaker 5: later it's good. Somebody didn't like the of that was
Speaker 5: set up, so we changed it. Somebody somebody who's not
Speaker 5: here on stream with us right now.
Speaker 1: Oh that guy name but he ran was great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, his initials are the Smoking Ape.
Speaker 6: So for anybody out in the audience, if you do
Speaker 6: buy one of our kids, always join the Toads discord
Speaker 6: because if you have any problems at all, you'll you'll
Speaker 6: lay it. You'll actually just leave a question the best
Speaker 6: corrector you can and you hit ME or APE. Usually
Speaker 6: APE usually sees that I'm you have to you have
Speaker 6: to DM me, as far as if you go into
Speaker 6: you go into Cartens, leave a message and just write
Speaker 6: something in there and ask for help and if if
Speaker 6: we don't have somebody will help you. But we usually
Speaker 6: we found a few problems on the Apollo, and I
Speaker 6: actually did a video on the problems that we were finding,
Speaker 6: so we we pushed people to that.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we also do tech support via email right.
Speaker 6: And usually a good quality picture of what you've done
Speaker 6: when you post your problem, and a lot of times
Speaker 6: we can just tell what's wrong with it by looking
Speaker 6: at the picture. There's a mistake and usually it's not
Speaker 6: usually something simple you.
Speaker 3: Have the ground wire.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the apollo when you when you break the two
Speaker 6: wires to go to the ground, you have to solder
Speaker 6: them back together. And that's what people miss a lot,
Speaker 6: and it just throws everything off. Or they need to
Speaker 6: be one enamel on wire or yeah, the enamels of pain.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Okay, I screwed up and cut that way short. But
Speaker 1: I can still get this wire around it, so we're good.
Speaker 3: More solder, Buddy, more solder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can solder a piece of that extra wire
Speaker 5: to it too, if you have to, that's right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I've torn things apart and rebuilt them, and.
Speaker 3: He doesn't show us all those.
Speaker 5: When I show it to you just can't tell.
Speaker 3: Is we only see the beauty shots. That's all we
Speaker 3: post in our private discord.
Speaker 1: I bet, I bet that's true. So okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna I think that's gonna work. Fine.
Speaker 6: Now I'm talking part you should have seen when when
Speaker 6: I was doing the beside man, I I probably built
Speaker 6: that thing fifteen times because we tried different raps and
Speaker 6: different tour roids and different raps on different to roads.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, just experimenting with it until you get
Speaker 1: something that works right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I usually start with a lot and just
Speaker 6: start pulling them off if I can. Okay, But yeah,
Speaker 6: if you guys have any if you buy one, there's
Speaker 6: just we have support. Let's just say that if you
Speaker 6: if you feel intimidated by building it, we're there to
Speaker 6: help you.
Speaker 2: So I went ahead and dropped the discord link in
Speaker 2: the chat. Thank you, and if Jason is kind enough
Speaker 2: to talk it out of our back of the chat
Speaker 2: and maybe put it into the show notes later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can do that.
Speaker 6: Sure, that's just the easiest way we can help you.
Speaker 7: Really, all right, let's see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the smell of solder smoke in the morning.
Speaker 2: You know what's good in the morning, cigar and bourbon.
Speaker 5: Frank had a little hair of the dog.
Speaker 3: Frank may have an issue there, Frank, No, I think
Speaker 3: I'm quite Coffee and cigarette hell to the Yeah, but no.
Speaker 2: Coffee.
Speaker 6: Make a beer that's coffee like a morning beer. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's actually pretty good.
Speaker 3: I'm not denying you, but no, it.
Speaker 5: Was a beer. Yeah, it was a good beer.
Speaker 3: PVR, it ain't real.
Speaker 6: It's over and uh it's one of the one of
Speaker 6: the ones that the brew houses in San Francisco did it.
Speaker 6: They're like like one of the most proper ones over
Speaker 6: there at the time.
Speaker 1: I remember you guys, you car guys.
Speaker 3: You know beer whoa son pbr. I'm not talking that
Speaker 3: Miller led stuff that the other guy drinking.
Speaker 4: Three three out of four of us drink bad beer.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Jason, don't is your coffee stuff off the ground
Speaker 2: or are you doing that?
Speaker 3: Is that a poissy pants beer's going to give.
Speaker 5: Two out of four? Of course, say two out of four.
Speaker 1: I was gonna get with vern this week your.
Speaker 2: Beer, Okay, I was going to drop that in there
Speaker 2: since you're talking.
Speaker 1: So I'm okay to cut this wire that's going to
Speaker 1: go into the B and C to I'm okay to
Speaker 1: cut it to links.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: What I usually do is just I stick it in
Speaker 6: there a little you know, I stick it in and
Speaker 6: and and you want to line up that that that
Speaker 6: center hole the center of the toll, right, so you
Speaker 6: have a little holes, the two little holes on the
Speaker 6: front and back around the big one, just so it
Speaker 6: lines up there, and just I just kind of play
Speaker 6: with it until I get the the length right and
Speaker 6: then just it's.
Speaker 5: Not always about you.
Speaker 1: The center hole this big this big center hole in
Speaker 1: the winder needs to go in the center of the
Speaker 1: toll roid.
Speaker 5: Correct say that again, Sorry.
Speaker 1: The center hole in the winder needs to go in
Speaker 1: the center, in the center of the toll roid. Correct Okay, yes, okay.
Speaker 6: And that's how you kind of figure your link out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that wire I go quite a ways in there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, cut it a little long, just in case,
Speaker 2: and then you can trim it down.
Speaker 3: Yep, you can have a little bit of a bolt.
Speaker 3: So I just left mine a little long because I
Speaker 3: when I cut it, I cut it like past where
Speaker 3: I knew the end of that connector was inside stripped
Speaker 3: it just to allow for me screwing up stripping it
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, would be an excellent service idea. What
Speaker 2: a Bourbon and Cigar of the Month club?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, I'm in a coffee of the month club.
Speaker 1: We need we need to figure out how to get
Speaker 1: our own bourbon Frank we are talking about the other day,
Speaker 1: to get our own bourbon branded bottle and whatnot. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we got to figure out how to do that.
Speaker 2: So you need to sell it through a cellar.
Speaker 1: I think maybe they will sell it like they just
Speaker 1: print it for you. They print the bottle for you
Speaker 1: and then you just share the link and you and
Speaker 1: the customer buys it through them. I guess mail order.
Speaker 1: I don't know how mail. If they do mail order,
Speaker 1: they got to go pick it up. You got to
Speaker 1: do a little.
Speaker 3: States some states, well you can't mail booze Alabama, not
Speaker 3: male booze here at all. So no beer, coffee, well coffee,
Speaker 3: beer fe liquor.
Speaker 5: We have coffee, Irish coffee.
Speaker 3: I've got that too, because I got jameson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we're good. Uh okay, I got that cut
Speaker 1: to where I think it should be good. What's next?
Speaker 6: So we just did the red and the black right
Speaker 6: red and the black correct.
Speaker 5: So the top the.
Speaker 6: Top black, in the bottom blue. You can they're going
Speaker 6: to go right next to the to and you're just
Speaker 6: gonna start with them together.
Speaker 5: And then where do they go after that? Chuck, That's
Speaker 5: that's the only place they go, right. Oh, they just
Speaker 5: connect to each other and you're done. Those connect each
Speaker 5: other and they're done.
Speaker 1: They connect to each other and you're done. Okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just put him somewhere near the tour right,
Speaker 6: So the matter wherever where it looks good for you.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So Chuck, there's a good question in the chat. Okay,
Speaker 3: of course, I think the man asking this must be crazy,
Speaker 3: and you'll understand why I say that. No, it's not.
Speaker 3: Don We know he's crazy, doesn't like coffee, doesn't like baseball. No,
Speaker 3: John A C eight x U is asking. He said
Speaker 3: he wants to use this antenna as an example. He
Speaker 3: he likes to ice fish. We have we figured out
Speaker 3: the crazy part now and ice fishing and radio. I'm
Speaker 3: out in the middle of a frozen bridge ground anywhere?
Speaker 3: How well will it work?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: Work great?
Speaker 3: It should work fine, I would think. So it's a
Speaker 3: large flat ground.
Speaker 4: Well, you're making your own ground plane with the ground
Speaker 4: radio that we give you.
Speaker 6: We're giving you a counterpoise, right, and that'll be seventeen
Speaker 6: for this is this antenna. Once you get what Jason's
Speaker 6: doing done, is one of the easiest because you cut
Speaker 6: a forty one foot piece of wire and a seventeen
Speaker 6: foot piece of wire and you hook them up and
Speaker 6: you're done.
Speaker 4: It's not like you don't need an antenna analyzer. You
Speaker 4: don't need a nano VNA, you don't need a rig expert,
Speaker 4: you don't need none of that.
Speaker 3: You need it Hey, nobody needs a nanovna or.
Speaker 2: A big expert.
Speaker 6: And usually I've had luck with my internal tuner just
Speaker 6: like the Poseidon will tune it. But usually I put
Speaker 6: a choke at the antenna, and an APE does a
Speaker 6: choke at both ends, and it should tune at least
Speaker 6: most bands. The nice thing about this antenna.
Speaker 1: It's the co ax.
Speaker 5: Yeah he does.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I do, but APE chokes a lot. The nice
Speaker 6: thing about this antenna is compared to a infant halfway
Speaker 6: where you don't have to tune, you can be a
Speaker 6: lot shorter. So if you're if space is a problem,
Speaker 6: I mean there's there's a lot of different which you
Speaker 6: have to look up, the non random, the random wires.
Speaker 6: There's certain links that you should go for and if
Speaker 6: you if you do that, you can look up random
Speaker 6: wire on.
Speaker 2: The it's a very misleading.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's not random, right, it's not that random.
Speaker 1: Get it.
Speaker 2: This is a nine to one Again, A couple of
Speaker 2: people are asking, yeah.
Speaker 1: Nine to one, random wire, okay, and now we're okay
Speaker 1: to solder that together.
Speaker 5: Chuck mm hm.
Speaker 1: I got the bires stripped and twisted together pretty pretty
Speaker 1: close to the tol roid.
Speaker 5: There Yeah.
Speaker 6: What I would do is just get them nice and tight,
Speaker 6: do it, and then i'd leave them there until you
Speaker 6: maybe put some liquid tape on them, and then you
Speaker 6: can just kind of bend them wherever you need to,
Speaker 6: or or not do you need to?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 6: Nothing's gonna touch once once you put everything on the wine,
Speaker 6: or nothing's gonna touch itself, you know, another wire across
Speaker 6: it or something.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, okay, all right, so yeah, I'll do that,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna solder this now so that it's just done,
Speaker 1: and then I might go.
Speaker 5: Next to the right, next to the one.
Speaker 1: You guys see it. I don't see it.
Speaker 2: Geez.
Speaker 6: Well, it's like you can look at something on the
Speaker 6: computer and the guy standing behind you'll see exactly what
Speaker 6: you're looking for.
Speaker 2: Oh geez, I hate that. I hate that so much.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there helping someone over their shoulder, click starting
Speaker 2: go here, go here, go here, and I'm flying through it.
Speaker 2: But then I'll do the exact same thing with them
Speaker 2: behind me, and I'm like, where is it. I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing it.
Speaker 3: I'm watching my wife click something and she's an it
Speaker 3: gal on her iPad. Her finger is hovering for like
Speaker 3: five seconds per click. I'm like, oh my god, please
Speaker 3: quit it.
Speaker 5: Make a decision.
Speaker 2: That's that's why they she has an iPad.
Speaker 5: Well, she has a computer.
Speaker 3: She has her own computer, and she has an iPad
Speaker 3: as well. Just usually uses the iPad. But it's just
Speaker 3: she's always hovering over everything like click it. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: my minion at work. My minion at work does the
Speaker 3: same thing. I hate having to supervise him doing stuff.
Speaker 3: We do it at my desk so I can drive
Speaker 3: is watching him hover that mouse drives me nuts.
Speaker 6: You're right, Okay, So mic makes a good mic radio
Speaker 6: repair makes a good tea. There's nothing random about It's
Speaker 6: a non resonant in FED. The keyboard is non resonant. Yes,
Speaker 6: So you don't want it to be good for any band.
Speaker 5: You just want to be close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Jason, you got it there?
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, we're done. So I've got the top blue
Speaker 1: one and the bottom red one left.
Speaker 6: Okay, the bottom red one goes to the antenna side,
Speaker 6: So that's going to wrap around to that second screw
Speaker 6: on the top of the end. Well, just right here,
Speaker 6: that's going to be your ground lug. That's the blue.
Speaker 6: When I think, yeah, the blue one. You have a
Speaker 6: blue one this left.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, a blue one.
Speaker 6: That blue one goes through your ground lug and then
Speaker 6: it goes to the ground lug and the to that screw.
Speaker 6: So what you want to do is you want to
Speaker 6: get enough of the insulation off where you can feed
Speaker 6: it through that and then feed it to a Basically,
Speaker 6: you want to put a what do you call the
Speaker 6: ring turmino there and hook it to a ring turma
Speaker 6: and then hook it to.
Speaker 1: Does it go underneath the one that goes into the
Speaker 1: B and C or do I turn the toe roid
Speaker 1: over or does it matter?
Speaker 6: You just go you go through that ground lug. Make
Speaker 6: it a bare wire. What I would do is measure
Speaker 6: it close. I mean like a quarter inch away from
Speaker 6: that ground lug wherever you have that. And you want
Speaker 6: to bend the ground lug out a little bit probably,
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's straight. I can't see it.
Speaker 1: Oh you mean the ground I see, I see, I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying. Okay, so the so what I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can see my screen or not.
Speaker 1: But the blue wire is on the right side of
Speaker 1: the wire of the the other wire that goes into
Speaker 1: the B and c.
Speaker 5: Oh, you have it.
Speaker 6: Just just turn it to the way just turned upside down.
Speaker 1: Turn it upside down. Okay, yeah, I'm going to have
Speaker 1: to move this, uh which I can do that. I
Speaker 1: have to move this zip tie because I put it
Speaker 1: with the knob of it is there.
Speaker 5: So just push them up inside, push the knob up inside.
Speaker 5: If that helps.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's yeah. I tighten it down.
Speaker 2: It's kind of you can still push you Well, you're
Speaker 2: doing that. Jason TC fits with a ten dollars super
Speaker 2: chat says, Happy Sunday.
Speaker 5: Thanks in a while. I good to see.
Speaker 3: I haven't I have one to comment I wanted to address.
Speaker 3: Jason Lockwood asked if we put these together? Not really.
Speaker 3: We have done it a couple of times in extenuating circumstances.
Speaker 3: If you can't physically put it together, hit us up
Speaker 3: and we'll talk about it. But the shipping department is
Speaker 3: sketchy enough as it is. And if we have him
Speaker 3: building antennas, then God knows what's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need at least five reasons, five good reasons,
Speaker 4: you know, call anoscopy coming up.
Speaker 3: Gout is really bad today. I mean, you know, if
Speaker 3: there's like those if you've got a civic reason, just
Speaker 3: hit us up. We'll have to charge you extra for it,
Speaker 3: which is all a manual process. But typically, no, we
Speaker 3: don't we sell these as kids. We don't build them
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: So you want me to put it through this this
Speaker 1: ground lug on the B and C. Put a ring
Speaker 1: terminal on the other end of it that goes to
Speaker 1: this lug here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're frozen. But yeah, okay, the lug near the
Speaker 6: B and C.
Speaker 1: Right, the lug near the B and C. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lug on the left side of the B and C.
Speaker 5: But yeah, okay, Zoom is letting us down tonight.
Speaker 1: I guess, so, yeah, I guess. I mean again, it's
Speaker 1: you guys look great. I haven't had any issues on
Speaker 1: this side.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Right, we always look great?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you, Jason.
Speaker 1: All I really care about is my live stream. I
Speaker 1: don't really care what you guys are seeing.
Speaker 6: So if for some reason, forty one feet isn't the
Speaker 6: right length for what you want to do, if you
Speaker 6: go to I just posted the m universe, I think
Speaker 6: it is there, and if you go down to the
Speaker 6: where it says it's in green, it has revised the
Speaker 6: links that are good are twenty nine feet, thirty five
Speaker 6: and a half feet, forty one feet, fifty eight feet,
Speaker 6: seventy one feet eighty four feete, I forget how much,
Speaker 6: Well you take seventeen away from one hundred, and that's
Speaker 6: how much wire you had to play with. So if
Speaker 6: you want to make it more eighty three, so you
Speaker 6: could go to seventy one feet or have a piece.
Speaker 6: But and that what that gets you is a little
Speaker 6: bit better on the low bands. The longer the wire,
Speaker 6: the better it will be on the like forty and
Speaker 6: eighty and stuff like that. Okay, that makes sense, So
Speaker 6: I put that. I put that in the if you
Speaker 6: look under her mind, I'll put it in again. That's
Speaker 6: a good reference for anybody doing the these top antennas
Speaker 6: or any kind of antenna that doesn't that you don't
Speaker 6: let you have a tune.
Speaker 7: Frank, what did I do?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: What didn't you do?
Speaker 2: I can't you look at the man?
Speaker 3: It was just it was just funny.
Speaker 2: Look at that.
Speaker 3: A soon as I made my face, you knew exactly
Speaker 3: what I was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Lockwood, thank you for the twenty dollars, Thank.
Speaker 1: You for the super chat.
Speaker 5: Thanks thanks Jason, Awesome.
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna you're gonna do first super chat
Speaker 3: on the live stream too.
Speaker 2: The second tonight.
Speaker 1: Where gym has been but it hadn't been.
Speaker 6: Don says, nine hundred and eighty four feet is good
Speaker 6: for the win.
Speaker 5: I don't know, Don, I didn't.
Speaker 2: That's what that one means. I get it now.
Speaker 6: Goes to three. It only goes to four hundred and
Speaker 6: twenty three, so I don't know, Don.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: And if you google random wire intend and if you
Speaker 3: will find any number of charts available, true, that tell
Speaker 3: you what the magic numbers are.
Speaker 1: There's more than one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's there's a ton of them.
Speaker 1: There's a multip doesn't always have to be the same.
Speaker 1: That's why it's random because it kind of works the
Speaker 1: same way even though you yeah, different links of wire
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: I actually built my own before we release the aries kit,
Speaker 3: and I did. I did a thirty five foot thirty five.
Speaker 4: Okay, random being not a resonant.
Speaker 3: Yes, starts all over the internet about this.
Speaker 2: Now. Sonic God's going to make me read online here,
Speaker 2: So we're going to give this a shot. Sonic gout. Yeah,
Speaker 2: five dollars super Chat says thank you Jason for being
Speaker 2: inspiration inspiration one, inspiration one one for the community to
Speaker 2: help me get my extra license in July keep being
Speaker 2: awesome seven to three and his call site is Keilo
Speaker 2: Fox Art zero Quebec November.
Speaker 1: Mike, well, that is cool that you got your extra man.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to do seriously.
Speaker 2: And if I'm gonna have to keep reading these, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna charge you a service fee.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just charge your service feet for all the
Speaker 1: coffee bunks. You know.
Speaker 3: You call them Sonic Gout, which is pretty funny.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what it's what. It's g O.
Speaker 5: T Scott got got.
Speaker 2: I think it's got.
Speaker 3: You said got the first time and.
Speaker 5: The first time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first time.
Speaker 3: That's a cool name though. They sound like a superhero thing.
Speaker 2: I'm Sonic Gout Jason Lockwood another twenty dollars super.
Speaker 3: Chat thanks son.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't make.
Speaker 2: Me read, so you get a free pass on that one.
Speaker 3: Frank's been in the brown liquor already.
Speaker 5: What are you talking about? He ain't shame.
Speaker 2: This is Canadian club whiskey. I got this from.
Speaker 3: Good middle tier blended whiskey.
Speaker 5: All right, mm hmm, says the PBR man.
Speaker 3: No, that's my beer. I like Glenn Livitt Scott or
Speaker 3: really good b.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you Orops on
Speaker 1: that one. Jim. Glenn Livid is a good Scott.
Speaker 2: Well Jason's work.
Speaker 3: I have tried a ton of them and some of
Speaker 3: them are Glenn.
Speaker 1: Glenn Fittich and Glenn Livid are probably my two favorites.
Speaker 3: Glenn Fittich is a little sweet for me, I thought.
Speaker 1: And I tried, which one you get? But yeah, can be.
Speaker 3: I bought leg of ulin one time, right because it was.
Speaker 4: Can you say that again? I don't think you can.
Speaker 3: Leg of vulin?
Speaker 5: Yep, I was right, leg of ulin.
Speaker 3: I was trying to put a Scottish accent on it,
Speaker 3: but I can't really say Scottish accent. And I despised
Speaker 3: leg of ulin, so it was not good. I gave
Speaker 3: it to my nephew. He said, oh this is this
Speaker 3: is okay? Like dude, it's one hundred dollars a bottle.
Speaker 3: It better be. It's not okay.
Speaker 2: It better talking talking about good whiskey.
Speaker 4: You know what's your favorite whiskey? Who amen in the
Speaker 4: chat am I seven DJ.
Speaker 3: And I also love Jameson. I drink Jamison all night.
Speaker 1: See, Jamison is just cheap, cheap, it is. It's blue
Speaker 1: like it. It's blue collar, very blue collar. I do
Speaker 1: not dislike it, but I'm just like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like the last Like, if I'm going to drink something
Speaker 1: that that I want to taste good, that's and even
Speaker 1: though I kind of like Jamison, I'm just like I'd
Speaker 1: rather have like an actual bourbon or or a Scotch
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: Jamison is like the mixer of whiskey. It's like Jack Daniels,
Speaker 3: only it tastes yes, Jack Daniels tastes horrible.
Speaker 2: You keep talking about all these other brands. I just
Speaker 2: got the hook up and it came in today. I
Speaker 2: got two bottles of Eagle Rare.
Speaker 1: Did you really yes?
Speaker 2: Thanks to uh, a gentleman we met up at Huntsville.
Speaker 2: Aaron UH sent them to me, and.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta find a smaller crimper to crimp
Speaker 1: this thing. Can't get my crimpers down right.
Speaker 3: That is the problem you're going to have, because that
Speaker 3: wire is smaller than those red crimp. Those red crimps
Speaker 3: are You're gonna have to double the wire or solder
Speaker 3: them too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: That's fine. Well I wanted to crimp that. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It is quite a bit smaller, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: crimp it, get a good crimp on it, and then
Speaker 1: I was gonna solder it afterwards.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you saw.
Speaker 3: If you use the non insulated crimps instead of the
Speaker 3: insulated crimps, you might be able to get it to
Speaker 3: close enough to at least hold the wire for you.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: The colored the colored crimps. So if you have a
Speaker 3: crimper that has colors on it, or the wide U
Speaker 3: shaped crimp like this, that is for insulated terminals. If
Speaker 3: you have the crimpers that have a little noogie sticking
Speaker 3: up in a rounded hole that it pushes into.
Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to do the Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: For non insulated terminals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's the one. I was trying to
Speaker 1: use the insulated one.
Speaker 2: But okay, I got to read this. The E five
Speaker 2: S A R has Jody. He said hook hooked on
Speaker 2: phoenix didn't work for me.
Speaker 3: Phonics. He said that phonetically frank.
Speaker 1: Hooked on phonics did not work for me.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 5: You already cut it.
Speaker 1: You already cut it, Jason already cut it, so and
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't.
Speaker 6: I'll just bend it up and then just been if
Speaker 6: you can have a little enough extra where you can
Speaker 6: just bend it up where you can get to it
Speaker 6: with the crimpers. The bigger crimpers are not the greatest
Speaker 6: for doing antenna work.
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I use I've got some smaller crimpers, but
Speaker 1: I think they're in my truck, and I.
Speaker 5: Usually use a style like this for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Maybe not those, yeah, chuck, hold those up, pull those up. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Jason can get your pick any bigger,
Speaker 3: but that will do insulated and non insulated. That one
Speaker 3: in the middle would let you do insulated crimps. Those
Speaker 3: two on the outsider for are the two on the
Speaker 3: outside of for insulated, and the one on the inside
Speaker 3: is non insulated. Okay, or you can peel that plastic
Speaker 3: crap off and roll with it on the non insulated connectors.
Speaker 1: I already peeled the plastic off, yeah, so I always
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: Still probably too big for that antenna wire, but pro
Speaker 3: tip for that, if you take a little lighter and
Speaker 3: heat that up.
Speaker 6: It'll pull right off easy, Yes, it will. I've messed
Speaker 6: up quite a few trying not trying to get that
Speaker 6: off without doing that. It's like finally figured that out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, that will. That will work there,
Speaker 1: and we'll tighten that down in the second here.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mike, Glenn Morange is decent too.
Speaker 1: Glenn Moraney is decent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not Glenn Livitt, but it's decent. Agreed and
Speaker 3: honestly for a bar brand, Doers is drinkable.
Speaker 1: No, I never I tried that. I tried the Doers
Speaker 1: white label one time and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, I've never had that. I've had the regular Doers.
Speaker 3: That's not the call brand. That's mostly bar brand everywhere it's.
Speaker 1: I went, I went and ordered a Dimple Pinch after
Speaker 1: after watching the final episode of Breaking Bad, because when
Speaker 1: he goes to that bar to give it turn himself in,
Speaker 1: he orders a dimple Pinch.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: It's just a brand of Scotch, gotcha? And and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm always up for trying new stop.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah yeah, And it was it was good.
Speaker 1: I the Glenn Levitt and the Glenn fittature are better
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I'm like, oh, that's good. But if
Speaker 1: I see it in a bar, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: something different, I might try that.
Speaker 3: There was a restaurant I went to it Atlanta one time,
Speaker 3: and I can't remember the name of it. And it's
Speaker 3: been twenty years ago. Their whiskey book, which included Scotch
Speaker 3: and bourbon. M hm, yeah, probably had fifty brands in there,
Speaker 3: and some of them were forty five and fifty sixty
Speaker 3: dollars a shot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, and let's go there.
Speaker 3: Wasn't driving. I wasn't paying the bill.
Speaker 2: Let's go there, Jim.
Speaker 3: If you're paying the bill, I'll find out who it
Speaker 3: is and we'll go. Frank, I'm not going to try
Speaker 3: not drink you, Frank, I am. I ain't think big
Speaker 3: time YouTuber son.
Speaker 2: We will book it or a bill at all to
Speaker 2: coffee at Ham Radio.
Speaker 1: That's right, t O.
Speaker 3: It's sure to go for the ape.
Speaker 1: We Uh. There's a place in Galveston, Frank called Sugar
Speaker 1: and Rye which ry like, yeah, drink and they have
Speaker 1: about I don't know, fifteen or twenty different bourbons, whiskeys
Speaker 1: and Bourbons under me. It's like a whiskey cake, but
Speaker 1: it's it's independently owned, so it's you know, it's better
Speaker 1: than a chain in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whiskey take is a chain.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah, and it's good. I like whiskey cake.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've had lafroid. I don't remember. I
Speaker 3: might have.
Speaker 2: You're not sharing what you're doing Jason.
Speaker 1: By the way, yes, I know. I'm not really, I'm
Speaker 1: still working on the same thing. But he was, I'll
Speaker 1: switch back.
Speaker 7: That's fine.
Speaker 1: So I've got this, I've got the I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to get a wrench to uh probably par needle knows
Speaker 1: to hold that nut down and then screw that screw
Speaker 1: in from the backside.
Speaker 4: But I've got to everybody, James, and the chat is
Speaker 4: saying we're out of stock on these what's up with that?
Speaker 3: No, we're not. He needs to check again because I've
Speaker 3: dated it just before this show started.
Speaker 1: And how many of you sold since then?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't sit here and watch it live.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Him Radio two point oh Sony, won't you
Speaker 1: check your sales?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: I can't. I can only sell the number of kits Jason.
Speaker 3: Remember we've had this.
Speaker 5: Look at deflect.
Speaker 3: It's Jason that Chuck tells me, you know how kits work.
Speaker 2: He's making one right now.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not going to get into the drama
Speaker 1: that exists between all you guys.
Speaker 5: Oh there's so much drama. Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Actually the drama left, didn't it.
Speaker 5: It's not here.
Speaker 1: Drama didn't make it to ye. He said he had
Speaker 1: to go watch Hallmark tonight.
Speaker 3: The drama is drinking Miller Lite and watching Hallmark.
Speaker 4: Right now, he's doing he's doing homework. We learned how
Speaker 4: to be more drama next week.
Speaker 3: Ten aries in stock Right now. You need to be
Speaker 3: going to coffee and Ham Radios dot com. If you're
Speaker 3: going to any other U r L you're the old site.
Speaker 3: Don't go. It's the old old link, yes, which.
Speaker 1: I shared the old link in my description. I will
Speaker 1: update it when the stream ends.
Speaker 4: Look at that, Jim. This is how a real man
Speaker 4: takes responsibility for his actions.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jason, Yeah, no.
Speaker 2: Problem, Jason, sounds like we need to.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got that. I've got this part in,
Speaker 1: I've got it connect, I've got it soldered to the
Speaker 1: little lip come off the B and C connector Am
Speaker 1: I okay to go ahead and solder the other wire
Speaker 1: into the center of the bn C? Now sure? Or
Speaker 1: do I need to do something else first?
Speaker 5: It's I do mine all different each time.
Speaker 4: I don't Jason's desk there, Chuck.
Speaker 3: Look on YouTube, Chuck, you can see it much better.
Speaker 1: These are the these two right here. Let me get where.
Speaker 4: You should have one going to the B n C,
Speaker 4: one going to the ground, one set that's married, and
Speaker 4: one is the red that goes off to your antenna.
Speaker 1: There's the red right there. This is the set that's
Speaker 1: married right here. This is the one going to the BC,
Speaker 1: and this is the ground right here. The ground should
Speaker 1: be done, except for I got to tighten that nut down.
Speaker 1: I don't have a wrench with me right here.
Speaker 6: You're well, you don't want to tighten it down down
Speaker 6: you because you're gonna put a ground a ground radio
Speaker 6: to it.
Speaker 5: Anything?
Speaker 4: Oh right, okay, all right, Jody, that is way too
Speaker 4: much experience. What is Jody made a comment it's a
Speaker 4: bit surprising. More of apes drama doesn't hinge on a
Speaker 4: recently single young professional woman moving to a small town
Speaker 4: for Christmas and finding love with a local handyman, Jody,
Speaker 4: seek help please, dude, that is awesome.
Speaker 3: Jody, you are a freaking genius.
Speaker 2: It was superchet to Jody here.
Speaker 4: I don't under how we all got that reference. I
Speaker 4: don't get that.
Speaker 3: Because apparently we're all married to women who have watched
Speaker 3: that movie at least once.
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: It's the same movie movie, the same movie, with different
Speaker 1: actors and actresses and different names. It comes out different
Speaker 1: time of year. It's all the same thing. So if
Speaker 1: you've seen one, you've seen them all. It's like watching
Speaker 1: the Expendless movie. They're all the same, but they're badass,
Speaker 1: so you have to watch them all.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got to watch Incredibles or not Incredible Indespicable Me.
Speaker 3: I haven't rented I haven't seen that.
Speaker 5: You have a child, Jim.
Speaker 3: She didn't want to watch it. She was too busy
Speaker 3: playing roadblocks when I rented it. So I'm saving it
Speaker 3: for when she comes back over. But I'm afraid it's
Speaker 3: gonna run out before she shows up, so I need
Speaker 3: to watch it.
Speaker 5: You go into that firewall, Sun and block that Roadblox.
Speaker 5: You'll have a kid back.
Speaker 3: I'll have a revolt on my hands.
Speaker 4: Okay, sepretations don't last forever.
Speaker 1: Center is in the B and C. What's next?
Speaker 5: She'll thank you when she's thirty.
Speaker 6: And so that that red wire needs that red wire
Speaker 6: needs to wrap around the opposite side back to the
Speaker 6: Did you put the screw in the back?
Speaker 5: Also?
Speaker 1: No, the back of what I have one screw left
Speaker 1: right here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it goes you see if you're looking at it.
Speaker 6: I don't know if you're looking at the way's see, yeah,
Speaker 6: you are that that screw straight down into the right
Speaker 6: of the screw hole, straight down to the right. Yeh,
Speaker 6: where you're left right, You were right there while you're
Speaker 6: lefting the right hand.
Speaker 5: I guess. So that wire is what I would do is.
Speaker 6: Take that wire and bend it down to the to
Speaker 6: the go straight down to the winder and then start
Speaker 6: winding in around the edge.
Speaker 4: Does it?
Speaker 1: Does it go on the back behind the to roid
Speaker 1: as the opposite side of the B and C.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So you see where you're if you're looking at
Speaker 6: your at your ground lug, if you look kitty corner
Speaker 6: to the other side, that's where that's going to go.
Speaker 1: That red wires wanting to go there, and.
Speaker 6: Then that's where you're that's where your antenna wire is
Speaker 6: gonna go to there. Once you feed it through.
Speaker 1: The put do you put it through the same direction.
Speaker 5: Put the screw through just like you did the other one.
Speaker 1: Just like the other one. Okay, that's what we'll do. Kay.
Speaker 6: I probably bypassed this online because I don't use as
Speaker 6: many screws, but it's easier for most people who did this.
Speaker 1: So I need to put this down here.
Speaker 2: It's also acts as a string relief.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, the stream releas built into the if you do that,
Speaker 6: it's built into the winder.
Speaker 3: That is actually one of the features of our winder.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: All right, So I don't know if you can see that, Chuck.
Speaker 5: But uh yeah, put the other one through just like that.
Speaker 1: What other one?
Speaker 6: The one you just put through? So just leave that there,
Speaker 6: and then now you're going to bend that down close
Speaker 6: to the winder and just run it right along the
Speaker 6: winder and then make it reach to there.
Speaker 1: So Jason, ask no idea what you're saying.
Speaker 6: You're gonna cut that and you're gonna put a ring
Speaker 6: eyelet on that one also like you did the other one.
Speaker 1: Okay, cut the red wire and put a put a
Speaker 1: ring terminal on it.
Speaker 5: You have the instructions. You have the instructions up.
Speaker 3: Uh, you got no instructions.
Speaker 1: No, I've got them. I've got them.
Speaker 3: Read them? Why would you read them? Your chuck?
Speaker 6: You're the if it looks at the picture. A picture
Speaker 6: is worth a thousand words, you know.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Okay, okay, I see what
Speaker 1: you're saying.
Speaker 3: Forty through ten officially, but it requires a tuner. So
Speaker 3: depending on your tuner, you can probably get six and
Speaker 3: eighty out of it as well.
Speaker 2: I was about to ask that.
Speaker 6: So you're going to make it come to there, but
Speaker 6: make it inside just lock wrap it right down the
Speaker 6: side of the the toroid so it doesn't stick out
Speaker 6: the sides, and then make it just fit to the
Speaker 6: to that screw with your Islet gotcha your ring terminal?
Speaker 1: Yep, I got you, I got.
Speaker 3: You, Chuck. What is our power rating on this antenna?
Speaker 3: It's one hundred hundred voice SSD.
Speaker 6: In fifty watts digital.
Speaker 1: There's just there's, there's there's. There's entirely too many of
Speaker 1: those antennas on the market. One hundred sideband and like
Speaker 1: a forty or fifty or sixty watte digital.
Speaker 2: It's a sweet it's a sweet spot. You know.
Speaker 1: It's not if you want to run one hundred wats
Speaker 1: on FT eight, it's.
Speaker 3: Not sun Unofficially. Unofficially, I have abused every INTENTNA car
Speaker 3: sales with more than the rated wattage and they still
Speaker 3: all work just fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, good. I'm saying, is there needs to be something
Speaker 1: that is sold that way.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 5: So I think depends on whether you're in Florida or
Speaker 5: you're in Alaska.
Speaker 2: So from if you wanted to try to beat this up,
Speaker 2: is the wires need to be bigger? Or is it.
Speaker 4: Depends on the heat of the environment that you're in
Speaker 4: as well. Like in Orlando, Florida and hamm caashion, we
Speaker 4: took our and fed halfwave and rent it on a
Speaker 4: hundred watch digital and it didn't work. But it didn't
Speaker 4: work because it's Orlando and it's Florida, and it's hot.
Speaker 3: In Texas gets.
Speaker 1: Harder here than it is in Florida.
Speaker 4: Man, So now there's ways to get around older in
Speaker 4: Wisconsin that it is in Alaska.
Speaker 3: Theoretically you could true you could liquid cool it like
Speaker 3: with oil or something just oil bath it.
Speaker 5: That would work radiator water oil gets hot.
Speaker 3: And well, I mean, yes, it's going to get hot.
Speaker 3: Put a lot, put a ton of oil in it,
Speaker 3: or circulated through radiator.
Speaker 5: I don't put the heat drink on mine.
Speaker 3: And Chuck is ding ding ding. I don't put the
Speaker 3: heat drink on either.
Speaker 1: You mean this piece? You mean this piece? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't put that on their route.
Speaker 6: I don't use it.
Speaker 5: It's pretty, but it's optional.
Speaker 2: And the toilet melt or will it just lose residents
Speaker 2: and up when you hit the half of the tour,
Speaker 2: which is around depending on the toroid in the mix
Speaker 2: or the composition of the toroid, the kury temperatures somewhere
Speaker 2: around one hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 3: To one hundred and fifty C. It just varies a
Speaker 3: little bit and it will saturate. And when it saturates,
Speaker 3: like Jason said, your SWR is going to go and
Speaker 3: once it cools off, it'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it usually doesn't take that long. I was, I
Speaker 1: was in Galveston and I was working on a I
Speaker 1: forget which intenda this was. I think it was. Oh,
Speaker 1: it was my Myota real Poda able antenna, the one
Speaker 1: that's in the the Painter's reel and you just reel
Speaker 1: it out and in.
Speaker 2: That video is coming out tomorrow on my channel.
Speaker 1: Good Good. That's a great intent. I love that antenna
Speaker 1: because you can you can wind it to any band.
Speaker 1: It is multi band resonant because you just wind it
Speaker 1: in and out until until it's the right length. It
Speaker 1: works right on twelve and sixteen twelve meters seventeen meters
Speaker 1: ten meters if you want on the top of the band,
Speaker 1: bottom of the dand whatever.
Speaker 6: I've actually kiken our our our infed halfway and I've
Speaker 6: run it at two hundred watts SSB.
Speaker 1: Really oh really, okay, I ran three.
Speaker 6: When I went to three hundred, watch it decided to
Speaker 6: get hot. Finally eventually I ran them poseidon at we
Speaker 6: don't undred digit all right?
Speaker 3: Really yep, that was now, to be fair, it was January,
Speaker 3: so it was not hot here, but right it was
Speaker 3: still up. It was still up in there. It will
Speaker 3: cook an egg range. It was above well.
Speaker 1: My point was to saying that was I was. I
Speaker 1: was running FT eight. In fact, I think that was
Speaker 1: the video where I was doing the digi rig. The
Speaker 1: new did DR eight ninety one for the FT eight
Speaker 1: ninety one. Yes, and I was running FT eight and
Speaker 1: I wasn't really making that many contacts really, I mean,
Speaker 1: but but it was going. It was working, and uh,
Speaker 1: and I noticed that the SFR started getting high. I've
Speaker 1: walked over the antenna and I kind of touched it.
Speaker 1: I didn't grab it real fast, but I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a little hot.
Speaker 2: So I saw.
Speaker 1: I waited like five seven minutes something like that, and
Speaker 1: then did another test. I'm like, okay, there's back, and
Speaker 1: I started going again. I think I turned my power down,
Speaker 1: but I was running like like because that intent I
Speaker 1: think is rated at thirty five watts on FT eight
Speaker 1: and I was running thirty five watts. So I turned
Speaker 1: it down to thirty watts and I never had a
Speaker 1: problem with it after.
Speaker 3: That, and it will cool down. There have been some
Speaker 3: incidents that someone who's not here because he's watching Hallmark did.
Speaker 3: Some of it is banned dependent He may or may
Speaker 3: not have melted all his zip ties. This colored the
Speaker 3: toroid and fused the toroid to the white, twisted this
Speaker 3: tree because it was I don't know about that. He
Speaker 3: because I got.
Speaker 5: He's more answered, he said it was all twisted up
Speaker 5: in Okay, but he was.
Speaker 3: Also doing it on eighty meters and that has a
Speaker 3: huge bearing on it as well. So if you're playing
Speaker 3: podat twenty or something during the daytime, it's not really
Speaker 3: going to be a consideration. But if you're playing high
Speaker 3: band like eighty meters, you need to watch it because
Speaker 3: it will. Yeah, that was with a poseidon. I think
Speaker 3: I've I didn't have an amp with the Apollo. I
Speaker 3: haven't headed up in a long time.
Speaker 1: So now you guys keep throwing out these words beside
Speaker 1: the pollen all that, go ahead and explain to the audience.
Speaker 1: You've got four intennas, sure, correct, Okay, yes, so tell
Speaker 1: everybody what the differences between all those.
Speaker 3: The Apollo is the infed halfway, then the ares is
Speaker 3: the random wire.
Speaker 1: That's what we're building, I know, which is what.
Speaker 3: You're building right now. The Mercury is a linked dipole
Speaker 3: and we send enough wire with that, Chuck, how do
Speaker 3: you send the kit for the Mercury, I don't remember.
Speaker 6: All of our kids get one hundred fet of wire
Speaker 6: and it gets well, yeah, I know, but I think
Speaker 6: the Mercury does forty twenty and fifteen.
Speaker 3: That's what I was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably, I think and I give you the measurements
Speaker 6: for whatever. I give you the measurements for I forget.
Speaker 3: That seems right, And you could cut it for any
Speaker 3: other link you want, and if you want more links,
Speaker 3: just to add more links and make it bigger. But
Speaker 3: and then the poseidon is the vertical antenna that we're selling.
Speaker 2: And building that I can't Waitip.
Speaker 1: That's the one that that's the one that yes.
Speaker 3: At Orlando, and and yes, that's the one he was
Speaker 3: using a Huntsville.
Speaker 1: That's hunt at the camp.
Speaker 5: YEP.
Speaker 2: The the thing the note on that antenna though you said,
Speaker 2: don't use it if you have a carbon mast.
Speaker 5: Okay, you gotta hang that way.
Speaker 3: Ape's not here to yell at me. You can use
Speaker 3: it with a carbon fiber mast, but understand that the
Speaker 3: carbon fiber mast is going to affect the way the
Speaker 3: antenna works. If you're using a carbon fiber mask, masks
Speaker 3: try and separate the wire from it. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have a carbon fiber mast, so I can't
Speaker 3: really test it.
Speaker 5: The problem the thing is not worried about it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 6: I won't use it with a carbon mast, okay. Usually
Speaker 6: a ten meter Paul is perfect for that antenna, and
Speaker 6: most of those are fiberglass.
Speaker 5: Yeah, carbon fiber.
Speaker 6: Even if you can get it a tune, will still
Speaker 6: mess with your the way it radiates and stuff.
Speaker 5: So if you are if all you have is.
Speaker 6: A carbon fiber, take the thing and try to get
Speaker 6: it away from it and just put it as a
Speaker 6: slope or something. That's all you have. It'll still work.
Speaker 2: And the d X yeah I said that right. DX
Speaker 2: commander's masks are plastic, so that should be working fied.
Speaker 3: Fiberglass, fiberglass.
Speaker 5: So if you if you.
Speaker 6: Some days find get a really good carbon fiber mast,
Speaker 6: try to cut a vertical for twenty twenty meters and
Speaker 6: see what happens.
Speaker 2: I have the twenty which is a carbon fiber, but
Speaker 2: it won't work with this antenna because it's too short.
Speaker 5: It's not yeah, it's too short anyhow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the carbon fiber is electrically conductive, so it's going
Speaker 3: to interfere with your antenna.
Speaker 5: And honestly, a sloper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the best deals around for masts, and
Speaker 3: we don't sell the mast. You buy whatever mass floats
Speaker 3: your boat. And if you want to be like don
Speaker 3: and be a carbon fiber rogue, then rock on. We're
Speaker 3: not judging apes judging, we're not judging. But the the
Speaker 3: DX commander mask, DX Engineering sells it. It's eighty bucks
Speaker 3: for a ten meters mast. There you go, promp solved.
Speaker 1: The spider beams is the one I prefer. Now I
Speaker 1: take issue, and you're not wrong, Jim. Let me just
Speaker 1: say this out loud. You're not wrong about the conductive
Speaker 1: quality of the carbon fiber. But every time I hear
Speaker 1: someone say that, the first thing I think is, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what does your freaking tower do? What is your
Speaker 1: run twenty five tower? Because it's a conductive thing, and
Speaker 1: everybody I know, right, everybody runs a tout. Well I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say everybody, many many, many people run tower with
Speaker 1: a vertical GP nine on top of a tower or
Speaker 1: standing off to the side of a tower. So yes,
Speaker 1: you're not wrong, but I'm just like who cares. I mean,
Speaker 1: like every radio, every commercial radio antenna in the world
Speaker 1: is on an aluminum tower, so a metal tower.
Speaker 3: So now one difference would be potentially and you're right,
Speaker 3: like I said, it'll work. It just affects it.
Speaker 1: Yes, it absolutely does affect it. I'm not saying it doesn't.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a tower if you're facing if you're
Speaker 3: facing two antennas, you have two antennas side by side,
Speaker 3: that's going to affect their radiation pattern. And that's what's
Speaker 3: gonna happen with a carbon fiber mast and a vertical antenna.
Speaker 3: And then what Chuck was saying, he beat me to
Speaker 3: the punch. Most of those antennas are on top of
Speaker 3: the metal base, so the pattern is not getting But.
Speaker 1: You can run it. You can run vertical intent on
Speaker 1: the side of a tower. I've seen many people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen him do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they'll hold it away from it, like we're saying,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to run it right down the tower.
Speaker 1: No, that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's so you want to do.
Speaker 1: In fact, well, what what VHQ hex did? What David
Speaker 1: VHQ hex did? He created these and I told him
Speaker 1: he should sell these. He said they were painting the
Speaker 1: butt to print. They were these standoffs that he would
Speaker 1: put down the center of the mast underneath his hex
Speaker 1: bean and they would hold the coats about I don't know,
Speaker 1: five or six inches off of the mast, and he
Speaker 1: said that lowered the impedance. He was having problems with
Speaker 1: high impedance, and he's like that completely fixed mind pedans
Speaker 1: problem just to move it that short five or six
Speaker 1: inch distance off of the mast. So perhaps what you
Speaker 1: guys can do is come up with some sort of
Speaker 1: like standoffs for your vertical intenna that people can buy
Speaker 1: his assessories if they want to run it on a
Speaker 1: carbon fiber mast.
Speaker 3: It's just that could be a profit center, thank you.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, I'm always saying it's an entrepreneurship shop.
Speaker 1: It's a great thing. It So, okay, so here's what
Speaker 1: we've got. Uh we move that back over here. I've
Speaker 1: got this and I don't have I put some heat
Speaker 1: shrink here. My heat gun is over there. I'll go
Speaker 1: get it shortly. I'm gonna finish this probably off camera. Uh,
Speaker 1: but the ground lug is and I probably you said,
Speaker 1: you guys said liquid tape. Is that what you said?
Speaker 1: To use? Some liquid? Is that what you use in Yeah,
Speaker 1: of heat shrink?
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, make sure you pull that off off the
Speaker 6: winder before you because you can melt winder with the
Speaker 6: heat with the heat gun.
Speaker 1: So just okay, well I can I'll just take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. I can do that. So I'll
Speaker 1: put some liquid tape on that and on that, and
Speaker 1: then and then I put heat shrink on this one.
Speaker 1: So that So that's where we're at. Now we've got all.
Speaker 1: I think that's everything.
Speaker 6: Okay, the only thing you have left to do is
Speaker 6: cut the forty one feet that's the length you want,
Speaker 6: and I would do forty really good. Okay, you need addition,
Speaker 6: show him how to thread that through. If you have
Speaker 6: another piece of wire shown at the end of the
Speaker 6: the end of our winder has right in the center
Speaker 6: of it. You put the wire through it and then
Speaker 6: you bring it up down up.
Speaker 1: It's right here. Yeah, just like that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: dude did his similar to that. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: it was a it was a lyric to wire that thing.
Speaker 5: But yeah, ours is easy.
Speaker 3: Chuck, how do you how do you recommend to deploy
Speaker 3: the aries because we haven't talked about that. I used
Speaker 3: to do it a sloper, a sloper because somebody asked
Speaker 3: in the chat. Mine was an inverted kind of a No,
Speaker 3: mine was horizontal, I think up.
Speaker 5: In the air.
Speaker 4: Yeah, play with it. It kind of doesn't matter, not really,
Speaker 4: but it's really enough matter.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter. I have I had a Nelson
Speaker 1: antenna's nine to one, and I'm pretty sure it was
Speaker 1: forty one feet. That's that number sounds frommiliar and I
Speaker 1: ran it. It powed it for a long long time.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I do. I think I've lost
Speaker 1: that intention. I don't know, but but I ran it
Speaker 1: as a sloper. I ran it as a near vertical
Speaker 1: one time because I was in a confined space. I
Speaker 1: never had any issues with it. It was it was simple.
Speaker 1: So yeah, just however you want to hang it up,
Speaker 1: just go ahead and do it. All right, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna cut this wire because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: so this this end right here, that connects here, chuck,
Speaker 1: this goes to the This will be the forty one
Speaker 1: feet of wire, right or am I cutting a separate
Speaker 1: piece for that?
Speaker 6: Well, you'll cut forty one feet and then I usually
Speaker 6: leave a couple of inches extra so I could do
Speaker 6: a like a loop in the end of it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: leave it a couple of inches that way, you can
Speaker 6: do a loop. That way you can tie it off.
Speaker 6: But that just goes through.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, So is that part of this wire here
Speaker 1: that I'm winding through the winder? Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you don't have to.
Speaker 6: I was just showing people how it goes through. That
Speaker 6: was something I came up in our first areas. It
Speaker 6: was like like brainstorming when we built.
Speaker 5: The first one. Yeah, if you take if you.
Speaker 6: Take the end of it and put a ninety in it,
Speaker 6: nine Yeah, just put a little like a little ninety
Speaker 6: in the end of the.
Speaker 5: Wire, spend it first, and then shove it in the
Speaker 5: hole up.
Speaker 3: Where you can catch it with a screwdriver, fingernail or
Speaker 3: the end of a zip tie works well too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, that's what I was going to grab.
Speaker 1: Here's this this piece of wire here.
Speaker 6: But what it ends up doing is our our antenna
Speaker 6: is a straight line instead of being you know, ninety
Speaker 6: degrees someplace the coax in the line, everything's a straight line.
Speaker 6: It lays out in ice. All the holes we have
Speaker 6: on it. I've taken just a bunge of cords, stuck
Speaker 6: it through one of the holes and stuck it to
Speaker 6: a like a you know the post that they have
Speaker 6: campgrounds that keep you from driving off the side, and
Speaker 6: just took it over it. Yeah, And and usually keep
Speaker 6: them fairly close to the ground too.
Speaker 2: And that puts all the strain through the winder itself
Speaker 2: and not on any of the towards or any of
Speaker 2: the components you connected to it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you go through that, it goes over to
Speaker 6: the side, and then because you go up down and
Speaker 6: back up.
Speaker 1: Right down through here through the center back and then
Speaker 1: and then back up and then it connects to this
Speaker 1: set to this lug nut here right right.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: So that's your stream relief.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. Sometimes do you put a
Speaker 1: uh do you put one of.
Speaker 6: The terminals on the end of this this?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So r don n five s k T says Jason
Speaker 2: just cracked a uh n t O seven.
Speaker 5: Did you crack it one time? Did you blow the
Speaker 5: blow the thing up?
Speaker 1: Oh no, well yeah, alcohol was involved, it was it
Speaker 1: was it was very proud moment. I need to replay
Speaker 1: that live stream.
Speaker 5: Probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I melted one of their matching units. They have a
Speaker 1: matching unit that goes in the bottom of the bunch
Speaker 1: of their antennas that he says, it's patent it it's
Speaker 1: a patent and matching unit that'll let you allow they
Speaker 1: allow you to use the antenna with no tuner ten
Speaker 1: to eighty meters and it works great. The first PoTA
Speaker 1: activation I ever did was on that SFP one two
Speaker 1: thirty one foot flag flagpole antenna, and I had that
Speaker 1: and I was doing a livestream here for something. I
Speaker 1: ran one hundred wots of FTA through it and I
Speaker 1: emailed him. He's like, no, no, no, don't do that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, too late now, dude. So he wanted
Speaker 1: me to send it to him, so I did. He
Speaker 1: was like, send that to me because I want to
Speaker 1: see what that looks like. And he replaced it for me.
Speaker 1: Really cool guy Bob Petrie out there at T and
Speaker 1: zero seven. But yeah, that wasn't when you said cracked it.
Speaker 1: I was thinking that you were meant the mast because
Speaker 1: we were talking about masts a minute ago. But that
Speaker 1: T and zero seven mass came for Ack mentioned this,
Speaker 1: and he's correct that T and zero seven mess is
Speaker 1: just as good as a DX commander mast. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: both of them are great masts. That T and zero
Speaker 1: sevens are green masts and the d X commeanter is
Speaker 1: a black ones, so they're both about the same size,
Speaker 1: about the same durability. In my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just need you just need twenty five ish
Speaker 3: twenty five is feet seven and the half meters I
Speaker 3: think for the Canadians and the audience and the bridge.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. Yeah, well, and that's the thing about
Speaker 1: the spider beams, they're measured in meters. The X Commander
Speaker 1: ones probably are two meters. Yeah. The one I have
Speaker 1: is a seven I have a seven meter spider beams
Speaker 1: and a twelve meter I think spider beams and I
Speaker 1: just I just love those masks. They're so great. But
Speaker 1: I have the and the reason I like this spider
Speaker 1: beams better than the DX Commander and the T and
Speaker 1: zero seven is because they break down smaller.
Speaker 3: Took. Yeah, so I mean the mass which is what
Speaker 3: I have a spare one of is, yes.
Speaker 1: It's the Classic, the classic mast yeah yeah, well and
Speaker 1: the exped what the expedition mask is smart, it breaks.
Speaker 3: Down smaller, now t has the is that the one
Speaker 3: you have, Steve?
Speaker 4: The expedition is when I carry with me, I've got
Speaker 4: the ten Expedition, the ten Classic and the seven meter,
Speaker 4: And I like the Expedition because, again because.
Speaker 5: It just packs up smaller.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah. So it depends on what you're doing.
Speaker 1: If you're going on an airplane. You want something to
Speaker 1: pack up smaller but.
Speaker 5: Or living carry on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I've taken the d X Commander as a
Speaker 2: carry on.
Speaker 3: It's it's not They probably hated you on that airplane, Frank.
Speaker 5: Oh, they hate me all the time, well for other reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Frank gets stopped every time he goes through TSA.
Speaker 8: Everything looks like he should be I know, yeah, Brank,
Speaker 8: do you enjoy it? He doesn't have He doesn't have
Speaker 8: pre checks, So I always go in the pre check
Speaker 8: line and let him go through the other line, and
Speaker 8: I go get a drink.
Speaker 1: I get like maybe a maybe a Scotch or something.
Speaker 1: I sit there and I check my email and I
Speaker 1: record a whole video, and then by the by the
Speaker 1: time I'm done with all that, he's usually ready to go.
Speaker 2: Have you seen Roberts pictures on Twitter of me last time?
Speaker 1: Yes, I get stopped. That was good.
Speaker 2: He sold me though, He's like I posted these.
Speaker 3: I thought, I was like, ah, yes, neither spider beam
Speaker 3: foled up, Jason or collapse too.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry say that again.
Speaker 3: How how short does the spider beam mass collapse to.
Speaker 1: It's about the same size. Maybe it I think it's
Speaker 1: about the same size as the d X Commander expedition mast,
Speaker 1: so it's like like the the the classic mast that
Speaker 1: I have DX Commander is like what four and a
Speaker 1: half four and a half feet something like that. The
Speaker 1: excuse me, the expedition mask. The spider beams mass is
Speaker 1: like three feet maybe three and a half feet something
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, something like that. Somebody said in
Speaker 1: the Chatterman to Go the spider memes fits well into
Speaker 1: checked luggage, Yes, it does. I very rarely check luggage.
Speaker 1: I like to try to carry everything on that way.
Speaker 1: I'm not DFW Airport has the absolute slowest check bag
Speaker 1: of any airport get your bags from check luggage spot
Speaker 1: of any airport in the nation. So when we go
Speaker 1: somewhere it's not a big deal. But when we come
Speaker 1: home we have to check luggage. It sucks, especially if
Speaker 1: you're your flight is landing at like eleven pm at night.
Speaker 1: You're going to be there till midnight. It's freaking waiting
Speaker 1: on your back terrible. So I very rarely check luggage.
Speaker 1: Plus they can lose it, like I've I've literally had
Speaker 1: luggage that was lost before on a check bag, So.
Speaker 3: You don't know what right feeling is like when you
Speaker 3: fly to Korea and all your luggage didn't show up
Speaker 3: and you have the clothes you're wearing in Korea.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's bad. That's bad.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: So here's the here's the nearly finished project. This will
Speaker 1: get a ring terminal on it. I've got I think
Speaker 1: I've got two left. You guys gave an extra one.
Speaker 6: It looks like no that you have a seventeen foot
Speaker 6: ground radio yet to make two out of that hundred feet?
Speaker 1: Does that go to the same lug here?
Speaker 6: No, the grounding lug, ground radio, the ground.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know which one the ground is. But okay,
Speaker 1: so the so the is that your counterpoise, that's your counterpoise. Okay,
Speaker 1: So seventeen foot here and forty one foot here?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, right, So so I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: measure that. I'll make another video. I'll go out in
Speaker 1: the field and measure all that. Put all that together.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's easy. That that video would just be Hey,
Speaker 2: let's let's test it out exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, the worst so home you're going to have
Speaker 3: is that you put the wires on backwards and then
Speaker 3: you'll figure that out. It's not working.
Speaker 1: And so how do you attach how do you attach
Speaker 1: the toll roid to the winder because it's there right now, but.
Speaker 6: That's what the middle hole and the two holes on
Speaker 6: the side of it to the front and back do
Speaker 6: you just put You put it through the middle and
Speaker 6: then go through the other ones. See the one behind
Speaker 6: it and one in the front of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so you just put it through both of those. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's easy enough.
Speaker 6: Right, straight in a straight line and right, yeah, a
Speaker 6: straight line.
Speaker 3: Ok.
Speaker 6: And I just usually take the head of the thing
Speaker 6: and just push it and make sure it goes down
Speaker 6: inside it doesn't stick up so it doesn't snag your
Speaker 6: heat shrink.
Speaker 1: And then after that you put the heat shrink on
Speaker 1: it like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and just keep working it slowly and it'll it'll
Speaker 6: straighten out.
Speaker 5: It's the heat is going to shrink a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. This is similar to the heat shrink that I
Speaker 1: think A c. K uses on his antenna.
Speaker 3: Pro tip, make sure you test it well before you
Speaker 3: put the shrink and test.
Speaker 1: It's a that's a good idea, yeah, okay, all.
Speaker 6: Right, And and for my ground lug, what I'll usually
Speaker 6: do well. I will usually run it through that little
Speaker 6: that little hole right but next to.
Speaker 1: It first, this one doesn't it'll way to be one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll run up through that.
Speaker 1: And then that way that for tension relief and.
Speaker 6: Then when you yeah, and then you're really not going
Speaker 6: to have any tension on it. But then it's it's
Speaker 6: kind of putting it where you're going to wind.
Speaker 1: It later, gotcha, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. I mean if you take it off
Speaker 5: and on, you can. You can.
Speaker 6: Also, there's so many things you can do with our
Speaker 6: winder that like some people will do a like for
Speaker 6: the for the radios, they'll do a clip on where
Speaker 6: they can clip it off.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, I think t O is doing
Speaker 1: that with his Okay.
Speaker 5: All kinds of things.
Speaker 6: Basically, that's our whole Our whole thing is make it
Speaker 6: yours how you want it. We'll give you the basics
Speaker 6: and then you just kind of do what you want.
Speaker 6: If you want to do something a little bit different,
Speaker 6: do it. It's your antent that you're building it yourself.
Speaker 6: You're not buying something already built, you know, and you're learning.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that it comes with the strap
Speaker 1: that you can wrap it around it once you once
Speaker 1: you wind all the wire up on the winder itself,
Speaker 1: and you can put the strap around it and just
Speaker 1: keep it tight.
Speaker 6: And I wish we could get those in eleven inches
Speaker 6: because it's just barely small enough to fit.
Speaker 5: Hmhm.
Speaker 6: But it works. Wind it, wind it big and it'll
Speaker 6: it'll do fine. Cool, you got it? Okay, you're got
Speaker 6: to take that out on a on a poda.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean hang them on my wall.
Speaker 1: Right, well, you know what I mean. I've got so
Speaker 1: many of them now I should probably start doing that,
Speaker 1: but I've been wanting to do it. I built that
Speaker 1: K six er K one hundred watt infant halfwave and
Speaker 1: I took it out to put the wire on it,
Speaker 1: and I did a short. I haven't completed the video
Speaker 1: yet because he hadn't had this in stocking like a
Speaker 1: year and a half. I'm like, well, if he ever
Speaker 1: gets him back in stock, maybe i'll put the video up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we.
Speaker 6: Keep our stock going. Yeah, we don't run out like
Speaker 6: everybody else makes kids makes kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, well good, yeah, this is uh, this is
Speaker 1: I like having I've got a lot of infed half waves,
Speaker 1: I say a lot. I've probably got six or eight
Speaker 1: of them, maybe ten of them something like that. Got
Speaker 1: a couple of new pac tens this week actually, and
Speaker 1: then in fed half waves are great, especially if you're
Speaker 1: using a radio like an FT eight ninety one or
Speaker 1: a an older f IC seven thousand or some of
Speaker 1: the sick. Yeah right, well, a radio without a tuner.
Speaker 1: But yes, because but because there it's you're you either
Speaker 1: have a compromised radio or a compromised antenna because an
Speaker 1: infed halfwave is resonant on four different bands, or it
Speaker 1: can be well, actually, if you want to do an
Speaker 1: eighty meter, it can be resien on seven different bands.
Speaker 1: But it's uh, those are great into but I like
Speaker 1: to have options as well. I've used a random wire
Speaker 1: I was I was talking earlier about that Nelson antenna's
Speaker 1: random wire that I used on Poto a few years ago.
Speaker 1: I made a lot of contacts with it, no problems,
Speaker 1: so I wanted something different, so I'm glad I got
Speaker 1: I got this model from you guys.
Speaker 6: Definitely, it's one of that's one of apes favorites because
Speaker 6: he likes the shorter antennas.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and that's true. Also, yeah, it was only
Speaker 1: for forty one feet a wire as opposed to like
Speaker 1: sixty five ish feet on an infant halfway four forty right,
Speaker 1: so that's true. Also, all right, Well, all you got
Speaker 1: to do now is go out and use it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I will. I will do that. In fact, I've got
Speaker 1: that new Zaigu sitting here that I was going to
Speaker 1: take on Poda and Galveston. I just ran out of
Speaker 1: time when I was there at Labor Day, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably take it up to LBJ Grasslands here maybe
Speaker 1: next week. And uh, those those Zygu radios have fantastic
Speaker 1: tuners in them, so not that you not that you
Speaker 1: really need a robust antenna or a robust tuner for
Speaker 1: the antenna.
Speaker 5: But you're no problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah three to one will get you, yeah, in business.
Speaker 6: But use a choke at the at the antenna. That
Speaker 6: helps a lot of times.
Speaker 1: A choke in the co acts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just took it to the antenna or close.
Speaker 1: I've got it built in, uh, choking one of my
Speaker 1: I've got that ab R coax with the built in
Speaker 1: yeah perfect, yeah, choking and at the one end of it.
Speaker 1: So yeah cool, perfect, Well thanks, uh all right, thanks
Speaker 1: thanks for being here. Guys appreciate this. I like to
Speaker 1: do these types of builds and see how they work
Speaker 1: after that. So anything anything else that you want to
Speaker 1: cover about this or any of the other three intennas
Speaker 1: you guys offer.
Speaker 6: Now we're we're actually coming out with a couple couple
Speaker 6: maybe a couple more things here eventually something.
Speaker 3: The check is in the mail, Well, Chuck is in
Speaker 3: the mail.
Speaker 1: The chuck is in the mail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we've got an update coming out. It's not
Speaker 3: an update. It's a beefier version of the Poseidon called
Speaker 3: the Kronos, and it's it's in prototype testing now. We're
Speaker 3: playing with different wraps and different toroids. It will be
Speaker 3: rated for one digital and two hundred watts single sideband,
Speaker 3: which means at least and it's been blood tested up
Speaker 3: to probably four or five hundred wots.
Speaker 1: Okay, anything I see that? Jason Lockwood, thank you for
Speaker 1: the twenty dollars super chat. What's that the third one?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 3: Jason?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason, than you.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Well, send me one of those
Speaker 1: when you when you guys get them ready. I would
Speaker 1: love to fuel test that one as well. In fact,
Speaker 1: we'll do another build on the stream if you want to.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be is that have a lot
Speaker 1: bigger toroid?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chronos will have a different toroid box.
Speaker 1: It's going to be in a box. Okay, in a box.
Speaker 3: With some socks while you're eating locks.
Speaker 5: I actually had my Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the one you had a yellow See you
Speaker 1: said you had a prototype something at Yellowstone.
Speaker 5: I remember that, always playing with something.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the poseidon correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: That's the vertical, yes, yes, yes, yes, and will be
Speaker 3: just the bigger, bigger vertical, same same vertical element, same counterpoise. Okay,
Speaker 3: just more more better, guts more stouter, guts.
Speaker 1: More better okay, yeah, okay, cool, all right, guys, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you very much and look forward to seeing the
Speaker 1: next project. And uh these I really like these bills.
Speaker 1: Hopefully YouTube won't delete this live stream so it'll stay
Speaker 1: anything any closing arguments for Moody. I know Frank wants
Speaker 1: to talk about his mugs one more time, but do
Speaker 1: you guys have anything about coffee and hen radios?
Speaker 5: Before that?
Speaker 1: Tell everybody when your live stream.
Speaker 4: Is Thursday night, seven pm Central, Saturday morning nine am Central,
Speaker 4: and we We just argue NonStop.
Speaker 5: Is what we do best. Right.
Speaker 3: It's like a bunch of howler monkeys flinging poo at
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: Sometimes.
Speaker 2: I like these guys' comments. Here is this intenda Frank proof?
Speaker 3: So nothing is Frank proof.
Speaker 4: It might be maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm still using mine. I had a cold sarda joint
Speaker 2: that came lists, so I don't have to fix that
Speaker 2: other than that.
Speaker 3: Just add more solder frank. That works for a lot
Speaker 3: of people.
Speaker 1: But you, but you did fix it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I desided it and use a solder sucker to
Speaker 2: suck it all up, and.
Speaker 5: I redid it.
Speaker 6: What was the old stuff used to make yourself?
Speaker 5: The radio stuff? Heath kits. It's like our antennas are.
Speaker 6: Like a heath kit. It's it's as good as you
Speaker 6: make it.
Speaker 5: Basically.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. Okay, Well, hey, once again, thanks guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody in the chat. Check out the
Speaker 1: link that I will update in the description here in
Speaker 1: just like two or three minutes. Radio dot com, Yeah,
Speaker 1: coffee and him radios dot com. Click on shop they've
Speaker 1: got their four antennas up there at some other stuff too,
Speaker 1: I think, and go check that out and what's this
Speaker 1: like seventy three seventy four dollars?
Speaker 3: It's seventy I believe seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, so not. I mean that's for
Speaker 1: a for a kit that you build and you can
Speaker 1: kind of build the way you want it. That's that's
Speaker 1: a that's a decent price. That's a really good, good deal.
Speaker 6: And you I don't care where you buy it. You
Speaker 6: won't find a better winder if you buy it made
Speaker 6: or not guaranteed.
Speaker 1: That winder is quite quite fancy.
Speaker 6: You drop it on a rock, it's not gonna snap
Speaker 6: because it's not brutal. It's right, well, it won't melt
Speaker 6: in your car, and it won't. That's in your car.
Speaker 1: It's good too.
Speaker 6: That's good for you, Texas for six months right to
Speaker 6: you in the car.
Speaker 1: Exactly good good, So cool. Well, thanks everybody. We will
Speaker 1: catch you sometime later this week and everyone go out there,
Speaker 1: and uh, I hope to work you on the air
Speaker 1: sometime because I want to do it probably next week.
Speaker 1: Put it on ya, see guys, everybody, Hey toss a
Speaker 1: frank Yeah, oh yeah, okay, Frank, okay, yeah, oh god,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, Jason didn't mention this at the top of the string.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say at the bottom of because usually
Speaker 2: there's more people. Now, the Coffee Tank Radio Coffee Mugs
Speaker 2: is the last couple of days for pre order. We
Speaker 2: are probably gonna pull these down this coming week, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna put the orders in this coming week, So
Speaker 2: just go ahead and order those now. It's probably gonna
Speaker 2: be Friday, or not Friday, this coming Monday. I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the last day September sixteenth, So orders
Speaker 2: yours now, and there's a probably good chance. I don't
Speaker 2: think they're gonna be offered again. So get it now. Good,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 1: That's okay, Yeah, you already you already shared that. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: all right, thanks guys once again, fun build and go
Speaker 1: out there and see what you can do with it.
Speaker 1: Seventy three All bye to y