WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.080 Welcome back to Making It. So this is episode number 2 00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:07.639 forty seven. On this one, we are covering Star Trek 3 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:13.119 Strange New World's season four episode one, Vallas MARINERUS. I'm 4 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:15.960 your host, Craig and my co host all the way 5 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:19.039 from the US, Steve. Hey, you going, buddy? 6 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:20.359 How are we doing? 7 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:23.160 I am freezing my ass off right now. It is 8 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:26.640 the coldest winter morning in Australia in Queensland that we've 9 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:29.239 had so far. And it might not sound a lot 10 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.640 to you guys where you're from, but it's only five 11 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:34.679 degrees celsius here, which is that's fucking cold. It was 12 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:38.159 ten degrees at the same time yesterday, so we've literally. 13 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.399 Had the seeing is no I only deal with freedom units. 14 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:43.280 I don't really know what that even means, but I 15 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:45.719 do know it's hot as balls over here and I 16 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:47.920 went through back right now. 17 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:51.799 This season, Maddie. He's too busy with work and everything 18 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.200 else going on in his life at the moment, so 19 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:56.560 I think Steve's probably going to join us for most 20 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:01.640 of this season. Not only we doing the normal podcast 21 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:05.000 using just the audio medium, I'm a video recording this 22 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.159 for the first time as well, so I might chuck 23 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.000 it up on my YouTube, so we'll see what goes 24 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:10.400 on there. 25 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:13.000 It just depends on how many times I pick my nerves. 26 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:18.120 I really don't care. Like I'm definitely not going to 27 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:27.480 blur anything out mate, So yeah, behave anyway, so you 28 00:01:27.519 --> 00:01:31.799 can hear that nicely. Steva here clear as David excellent. 29 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:35.079 All right, So spoilers. This is going to be a 30 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:39.120 heavy spoiler chat for season four, episode one of Star 31 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:42.879 Trek Strange New Worlds Vallas Marinerus. If you haven't seen 32 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.640 the episode and you don't want to be spoiled, just 33 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.000 to pause this podcast right now and go away and 34 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.239 watch the episode. If you don't mind being spoiled, Yeah, 35 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:52.159 come listen, you know, all. 36 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.560 Right, and I'm going to spoil my teake on it. 37 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.120 Go and watch it, Go and watch it. 38 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.000 Well before were we actually start talking about it too much. 39 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.560 Let's get into the synopsis and I'm going to read 40 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:06.680 the synopsis off of Prime Video here in Australia. It 41 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.919 says Pike leads the crew into a stellar storm, which 42 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.639 sends the Enterprise back sixty five million years to the 43 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.400 time of the dinosaurs. The crew must find their way 44 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:21.039 home before their actions affect the past. And change the 45 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:28.080 distant future. Okay, I deliberately made sure that I didn't 46 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.960 read the synopsis before the episode. I didn't even read 47 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:36.400 the name of the episode, jam, But I got curious 48 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:39.240 once I did sort of turn it on, and I'm like, 49 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.800 what is Valus Marinerus? And then obviously they sort of 50 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.319 spoke about it throughout the episode. But the Valas Marinerus 51 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:48.919 is the largest canyon system in the Solar System. It 52 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.520 stretches over four thousand kilometers or for Steve two five 53 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:57.360 hundred miles. It's up to six hundred kilometers wide or 54 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.000 three hundred and seventy miles, and up to seven kilometers 55 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:03.800 or twenty three thousand feet deep. It's located along the 56 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.039 marsh and Equator and is roughly ten times longer and 57 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:11.159 five times deeper than Earth's Grand Canyon, all right, and 58 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.960 just massive. Yeah. They've got a picture of it here 59 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.479 that I'm looking at on the Google and it's got 60 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:20.599 a map of the US superposed over it, and it's 61 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:22.879 actually longer than the US is wide. Yeah. 62 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:25.439 I mean, I've been to the Grand Canyon and that 63 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:28.319 is something to behold. But they can only imagine what 64 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:29.080 that would look like. 65 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.400 It's like a massive scar on the surface of Mars. 66 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.479 So as we get through, we'll. 67 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:36.240 Yeah. 68 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:40.039 Anyway, so the season or this sorry, this episode opens 69 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:43.560 up with a season recap, and I guess the biggest 70 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:47.639 thing from the recap Captain Bettel, you know, Captain Pike's 71 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:52.280 girlprind Gone, you know, and spoken la they're sort of 72 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:54.800 a they're a thing to use. What a twenty twenty 73 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:58.639 six sort of thing. They're in a situationship? I guess 74 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.879 are they still yeah? Yeah, well they definitely got something 75 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:08.080 going on. We'll The episode itself opens on the surface 76 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:09.840 of a planet, and I didn't really catch the name 77 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.439 of the planet. With Pike, Laan and then Benga riding horses, 78 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.160 it was. It was a pretty cool looking planet. It 79 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.319 was very desert like but rusty looking. It's sort of 80 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.000 it reminded me of like some of the Old West 81 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:22.720 in the US. 82 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.680 Yes, the thing, Yeah, that's what the vibe I got 83 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:29.079 off it right away. Did you we doing like a. 84 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:33.839 Hollow deck or is this did you not? Laan was 85 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.639 carrying a six shooter on her hip as well. It 86 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:37.279 wasn't a phaser, it was a six. 87 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:41.040 Shoot that's something you pointed out. But like I did 88 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:42.519 not notice that at all. But what I was saying 89 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.279 before is I did notice that there was that she 90 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.560 had like a bullet belt on whatever that might be. 91 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.959 Yeah, yeah, I noticed in one of the behind the 92 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.199 scenes photos as well, you could quite clearly see that 93 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:56.600 it was a revolver on her hip, which is cool 94 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.920 core that was carrying a phaser pistol. That was really 95 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.160 from them. They went for the whole aesthetic, they really did. 96 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.519 I have a really, I have a question, all right, 97 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.360 So that they beamed up to the Enterprise, what happened 98 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.279 to the horse? Where the horses? 99 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:16.199 Though you've never heard of the USS Enterprise steeble Master, Well, 100 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:20.360 I'm thin the horses back that's the cargo B three. 101 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.920 I'm actually wondering if they were horses that were on 102 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.240 the Enterprise and they did beam them up into like 103 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:28.839 a cargo bay or something like that, or if they 104 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:30.240 just left them on the planet. 105 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.439 And that just pipped into my hand to that maybe 106 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.759 they would just clumbered while they were at the planet 107 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.480 or acquired they were at the planet and they're just 108 00:05:37.519 --> 00:05:38.639 being themselves back up. 109 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:42.360 Yeah, Well, they were there for a was it to 110 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:45.480 hand out some vaccines to some locals on the planet. 111 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:48.279 Now they didn't say if they it was a human 112 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.519 colony or not that I picked up or not. Now 113 00:05:51.560 --> 00:05:54.680 I didn't heal either, you know, but it was interesting 114 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.759 that Pike did take his own saddle, and they did 115 00:05:56.800 --> 00:05:58.839 look like they were Earth type horses. 116 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:02.319 Yeah, they were like the horses from Revenge. Was it 117 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:04.920 that Revenge of the Jetto or whatever it was the 118 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:07.680 newest one. Yeah, you know what I mean. They have 119 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.240 the space horses that were working on the ship with sticks, 120 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:11.319 legs or whatever they were. 121 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:15.439 I thought it was cool though, and it obviously goes 122 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.000 all the way back to the very first episode of 123 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.279 Ye ob there and Pike loves his horses, which is 124 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:21.839 pretty cool. 125 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.959 I did like that callback. I noticed that rode away. 126 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.480 I say, now, the saddlers in just about every episode, 127 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:32.000 if not every episode. 128 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:34.160 Because it's hinge on his wall, right, Oh, it sits 129 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.560 in his ready room. That's what it was a conference 130 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:39.040 room because it seems. 131 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.959 To double us both Spock meets them in the transporter 132 00:06:42.120 --> 00:06:44.879 room and he's actually not there to meet the captain. 133 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.959 He's there to meet la arm So and you don't 134 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:52.920 don't agree or no, no, it's out yeah, so he Yeah, 135 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:56.319 they're they're definitely still a thing, and she invites him 136 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.439 back to her quarters to help her take her boots 137 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:01.199 off because it's rather difficulked. 138 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.720 Apparently, sometimes you need to help taking your boots after 139 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:04.920 you in a while, you. 140 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.800 Just taking your jacket off, taking your underwear off, like 141 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.879 I don't know if you've ever been around horse people, Steve, 142 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.680 but they kind of have a horse smell. So yeah, 143 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.240 I don't know. I grew up next to one. Actually 144 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:20.079 that in a donkey. 145 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:24.639 They have a couple of pitbulls, some chickens, an interesting 146 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.040 little little spot in the middle of the suburbia. 147 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:29.000 I'm just going to say it right now. I'm probably 148 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.079 need to shower before her and spot get down with anything, 149 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:34.639 especially with his vulcan nose. You would take your smell 150 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:36.759 on like that, to have. 151 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.040 A sip of my Earl Gray tee that I've got 152 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:43.439 going on here, Earl Gray hot it is, except it's milk, 153 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:47.399 and get my New York American Ferotogla water. 154 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.079 Just a nice big blue bottle of water. Okay. So 155 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.480 next we go back to Pike's ready room and UNA's 156 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.279 in there with Pike, and she's talking about how busy 157 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.879 they have been in the last six months, so essentially 158 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:04.680 it's been six months since Marie Bttel has died by 159 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:07.560 the sounds of it, and Pike has been keeping himself 160 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:13.079 distracted by keeping the Enterprise busy with missions. Now is 161 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.680 that fair to the crew? Probably not. And UNA's basically 162 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:19.800 saying that they need a break because it's just it's 163 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:25.399 been too busy. Yeah, yeah, she's She is also asking 164 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:27.399 that maybe she could do an away mission at some 165 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:29.800 point as well, because as much as she loves commanding 166 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:33.399 the Enterprise, while he's down doing away missions. Like, realistically, 167 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:35.840 as we know, the captain should be really staying on 168 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.559 the ship and the number one should be off doing 169 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:39.679 the away missions. 170 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.159 But as we've seen through our Star Trek, that's number 171 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:45.799 the case. The full complement of officers goes down to 172 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.080 the planet at all times. It's the wild I'll never 173 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:52.879 understand that. Let's say that science officer, I'm medical chief 174 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:54.720 and medical like everybody just. 175 00:08:55.399 --> 00:09:02.000 You know, the whole senior stuff. Yeah people every night. Yeah, 176 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:05.519 Admiral April comes to visit as well, and he's talking 177 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:07.960 to Captain Pike about promotion. 178 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:08.480 Yeah. 179 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.840 Look, Chris really doesn't want it. He wants to stay 180 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.080 on the Enterprise, and I don't blame him, Like, you know, 181 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:17.000 even Kirk he wanted to stay on the Enterprise. Picard 182 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.720 he wanted to stay on the Enterprise. Everybody stays longer 183 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.720 than they probably should, and I don't blame them, because 184 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:24.519 you know, who wants an office job at the end 185 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:26.000 of the day, especially if you're. 186 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.759 Yeah, you're going to you're going to miss that action 187 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:32.200 one hundred per especially with dealing it on a daily 188 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:34.639 basis as well, because you're going to be coordinating with 189 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.240 other captains and seeing what they're doing on field. So 190 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.759 he's going to miss it every day if he does that. 191 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.240 Yeah, Like when I was in the Army, I avoided 192 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:46.120 promotion for quite a while so I could still continue 193 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:51.360 being a frontline soldier. But yeah, I still ended up 194 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:52.399 in an office at the end. 195 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:57.159 Anybody took a little bit longer, though, definitely did take 196 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:57.759 a bit longer. 197 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:03.759 Yeah, so Pike gets his next mission the next mission. Yeah, 198 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:08.159 this is basically what sets us up for the whole episode. So, yeah, 199 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:13.000 or tagus. She's talking to her about Scottie putting alarms 200 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:15.879 on her console because as we know, Erica likes to 201 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.200 push the ship quite hard. As she's piloting and probably 202 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.159 goes past the design parameters of the ship, and Scotty's 203 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.399 trying to protect the ship as a good engineer and 204 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:28.279 it's really not like that now. 205 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.320 Well yeah, yeah, so obviously this is a little combat 206 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.000 to when he was more cautious, you know. 207 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.679 Yeah, yeah, so yeah, she's having a bit of a 208 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:40.840 complaint about that. Hourah is distracted in that conversation because 209 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:44.039 they've got a new staff leet cadet from the Academy 210 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.919 on board, like when she first came on board, and 211 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:49.960 she's going to be mentoring her. Now, this is a 212 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.480 young Vulcan lady. I didn't catch her name, but I 213 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:58.000 did not either, And she seems rude, this vulcan. Like 214 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:00.720 is it that she's very rude or is it that 215 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:05.159 the writers just don't understand how to write a Vulcan. 216 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:06.679 I mean, you've seen it. 217 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.080 I think a numerous amounts of different Vulcans and how 218 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.720 they interact with humans throughout the different shows, and I 219 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:16.440 think that's pretty much on power for most one hundred 220 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.679 Vulcans with no mixed blood, you know what I mean, 221 00:11:20.039 --> 00:11:20.480 even to. 222 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:21.679 Like to stand up. 223 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.639 She seems very Maybe she's like the like to begin with, 224 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.879 she to be mean, but maybe she's the Asperger's the 225 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:34.000 Fulcan because she seemed very very focused on whatever whatever 226 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:36.919 she was focused on, which was nothing to do with 227 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:37.559 anybody else. 228 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:39.919 Yeah, she was very very abrasive this one. 229 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:40.200 Yeah. 230 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.879 So her had been practicing her Vulcan with Spock, but 231 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.519 then apparently she was terrible at it and she had 232 00:11:46.519 --> 00:11:48.960 a very bad accent, and the cadet asked her not 233 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:54.200 to speak Vulcan's good. Yeah, it was like for a 234 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.279 cadet to be speaking to a commissioned officer that way. 235 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:59.919 I thought it was like, coming from my military background 236 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.679 and everything, I was like, oh damn, that's really pushing it. 237 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:06.960 Well, so one thing with the whole house, how she acts, Yeah, 238 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.879 but how she reacted to it. I said, you know, 239 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:12.399 she is definitely Vulcan, but at the same time, you 240 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.919 would think that somebody who's progressed that far in either 241 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.000 the Vulcan Science Academy, which I think she was rejected from. 242 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:22.240 I think she said at one point or the starts 243 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.480 with the academy that she would know normal mannerisms and 244 00:12:27.080 --> 00:12:31.600 normal social you know, cues from humans because she was 245 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.320 just trying obviously to be nice and connect with her. 246 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.080 But she didn't get that one, not like not at all, 247 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:38.080 which was kind of odd. 248 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.799 Actually, No, I suppose yeah, coming from a different culture, 249 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.000 like she doesn't understand humans and she doesn't understand how 250 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.879 we react to things, and so she's this is probably 251 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.919 her first like real interaction with humans apart from it, 252 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:52.240 like she would. 253 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.519 Have had you, Well, that's what I mean though, Yeah, 254 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.279 I feel like she would have had that a little 255 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:00.080 bit more interactions. And if she's reached that level of 256 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.039 intellect and in where she's at in her career, you'd 257 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:06.320 think that that that one thing as simple as they 258 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.960 could gesture from somebody that should be able to understand. 259 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.879 I know, Vulcans don't really deal with emotions, and they 260 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.320 are definitely a different species, but they definitely understand emotions, 261 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:16.120 I guess to a point. 262 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.120 Do you remember in the I don't know if you 263 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.480 actually watched this when Tallinn came over to the Critos 264 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.720 in lower Decks she came straight from a Vulcan ship. 265 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.559 She wasn't even that abrasive, and she'd comes straight from 266 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:33.279 working on a Vulcan ship, where she'd come out of 267 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:36.080 the Vulcan science Academy, and so she hadn't had a 268 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:37.519 lot to do with humans. 269 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:39.879 And she was like, she wasn't part of Star a 270 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:40.480 Fleet at all. 271 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.639 So she was on like a exchange program essentially. But 272 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.159 she's what I mean, she was wearing a Starfleet uniform. 273 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:55.399 But yeah, she she came over directly from a Vulcan ship. Yeah, 274 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:56.080 I've never. 275 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:59.039 Seen the show, as you know. So yeah, I've tried. 276 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:02.080 I've tried, but yet Steve and I are somehow still friends. 277 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:05.519 I know, I know, I know. Okay, So they go 278 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:09.240 on the mission that am April sent them on, and 279 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.440 there is a Category ten interstellar squall. It's not a 280 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:17.279 very common thing, but Pellia interestingly, she says that she 281 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:20.399 saw one a long time ago ago from a phone box. 282 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.120 Now that is definitely what did she say? She said 283 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.559 that she's seen one a long time ago from a phone. 284 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:29.840 Box colon blocks but a phone booth, phone booths. Yeah, 285 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:37.559 so that is definitely a Doctor Who reference. Okay, okay, 286 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.320 so there is somebody on the writing staff for this 287 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.120 show that is a massive Doctor Who fan. Not only 288 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:47.919 have we seen we've seen the phone the police phone 289 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:52.080 box from Doctor Who last season. Very quickly, Yeah, Pellia 290 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.879 has mentioned a couple of Doctor Who things a couple 291 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.559 of times, so, and apparently early on in Star Trek 292 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:02.440 they were trying to do a crossover between Doctor Who 293 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:05.320 and Star Trek, but it never happened because of different 294 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:10.039 studios and different countries and all that sort of stuff. So, yeah, 295 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:13.440 but they say they're a shared universe. That's what they claim, 296 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.799 at least a pseudo shared universe like non Cannon. 297 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.799 It could work, it could work good. But when she 298 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.960 did say that, Pike's face was like a little bit 299 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.519 of like, what are you talking about? Confusion? It was 300 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:34.200 pretty funny. So apparently this squawl is around a star 301 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:38.919 and there's no they've got no idea why Ryan, but 302 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:42.600 Spock is very concerned about the ship being destroyed if 303 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:47.559 they get too close to it, so her she picks 304 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.840 up a calm signal from inside the storm with a 305 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:54.799 may day. So obviously, as the Enterprise does, and Pike 306 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.399 orders Erica take us in so you know, we can 307 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.039 try and help. Essentially, this next part is the one 308 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:06.360 part that really really annoyed me about this episode, and 309 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:12.720 it's unnecessary and it reminds me of that terrible Stargate origin. 310 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:16.159 The scene where they spin the camera around as the 311 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.960 ship was spiraling into this storm. The camera is just 312 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:22.679 spinning around and around and around, and. 313 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.799 Like, why, terrible choice, terrible choice with a show full 314 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.440 of beautiful film work or you know, film whatever you 315 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:32.519 want to go, film work, animation, c G. 316 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:37.039 I that was so bad, Like the director of episode, 317 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.440 Chris Fisher, like, bro, come on, like they just do 318 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:43.279 that to us. It didn't need to happen, mate, But 319 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:45.960 I guess it was a choice. It was a choice. 320 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:48.519 Yeah, And it was just where I really got into 321 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:51.799 the episode. By the way, this right after this is 322 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.519 where I started going because I had my my my 323 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.720 my walls up and my my barriers up because I 324 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.799 really loved last season what was season before? So I've 325 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.240 been kind of cautious on this, and that's just where 326 00:17:04.319 --> 00:17:07.200 I felt like completely into the show when I was 327 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:08.839 one one hundred gig. 328 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:12.400 Well, yeah, last season, didn't They blame last season on 329 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:15.200 like the right strike and you know how they didn't 330 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:16.519 have a lot of time or something. 331 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:20.960 Yeah, but it happened still there, It definitely happened. There's 332 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.640 a lot of bad choices in my opinion, but and 333 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.000 I just some people love it, but I just hard 334 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:27.119 know the hardest of No. 335 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.880 I have heard that this is the worst of the 336 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.599 first six episodes of the season, and I'm like, if 337 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:37.720 that is, If this is the worst of the first 338 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.599 six episodes, I'm pretty impressed. So like, well, well we'll see. 339 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:46.240 But Erica tries to reverse them out of this space 340 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.359 storm thing, but the Enterprise gets caught and sucked in. 341 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.240 So when they get sucked in, it like cuts for 342 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:54.640 a second, and then we go back to the Enterprise 343 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:58.759 and life support is the only thing that's working essentially, 344 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:01.599 so they've got no weapons, no shields. 345 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.920 And the ship is still spinning, just we're not seeing 346 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:05.519 it through the camera. Yeah. 347 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:10.039 Yeah, So according to Scotty, they've lost their iridium, so 348 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:14.240 they can't relight the warp Corps. So is that something 349 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.880 we've heard before that we need a ridiom to relight 350 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:17.839 the warp Corps. 351 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.640 I was kind of curious about how they last it. 352 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.400 I didn't really understand that part or what happened to 353 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.039 make them lose power during that storm. Did their systems 354 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.200 get fried? Like I didn't understand that part. 355 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:34.359 Actually, yeah, like the systems get fried, yep, cool, But yeah, 356 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:38.119 why is there a ridium all gone like somehow did 357 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.920 the storm suck it out or like yeah that's what 358 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.279 made me Yeah, okay cool, But yeah, I've never heard 359 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.880 that we need iridium to you know, ignite the warp 360 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.519 corps or ignite the warp engines at least. 361 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:54.480 So meanwhile, we got hardcore TRACKI fans, But this has 362 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:57.720 been established since the original series. 363 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:04.640 Book or something somewhere. They can't determine where they are, 364 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:08.599 so in the universe or in the galaxy, they've got 365 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.319 no idea at this point, like they've been sucked into 366 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.000 this storm and they've got no idea where they are. However, 367 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:18.039 they can detect iridium on the nearest planet to them, 368 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:21.039 am like okay, all right, well that's quite convenient that 369 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:24.279 they've got some very close to where they they are. 370 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.279 So they decide that Uner is going to take a 371 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:32.519 shuttle mission down and she takes Lan and Erica with her. Anyway, 372 00:19:32.640 --> 00:19:34.799 they go down to this planet on the shuttle. Now, 373 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:36.920 when they open up the side of the shuttle to 374 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:40.599 get out, it puts out this little i'm gonna call 375 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:43.799 it a little ramp bridge thing that goes onto the 376 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:46.319 cell on the shuttle. But it's like there's like a 377 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.240 part on the cell that opens up as well, so 378 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.920 the bridge can go across onto it. It's I actually 379 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.680 didn't mind it. I didn't mind it either, but it 380 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:56.839 was I don't know, I've not seen that before, But 381 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:58.880 why wouldn't you make it so the door was just 382 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.000 a little bit higher so it didn't need to do 383 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:01.480 or the. 384 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:03.319 Door was on the back of the ship where there's 385 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:03.839 no engine. 386 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:05.799 It's got a ramp on the back, doesn't it. 387 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.039 Like yeah, usually I want to say the shuttle pudged 388 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.400 from that era where they released from the back. I'm 389 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:12.039 not mistaken. 390 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.799 Yeah, I know, I knew the door on the side, 391 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.640 but yeah, it was interesting anyway. I liked it. 392 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.680 I thought it was smooth. I thought it was it wasn't. 393 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.240 It didn't like interfere with the n cell, so I knew. 394 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:25.079 I knew that was going to be. Like people will 395 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.279 be like, good, what the hell's going on there? But 396 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:29.359 it doesn't interfere with the ntelle though. 397 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.599 It was something I wasn't expecting. Like not that it's 398 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:34.920 bad at all, it was just different, and it seems 399 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.559 like a different It seems like a redundant thing to have. 400 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:41.440 Like you just I think they wanted something cool, if 401 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:43.839