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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. I am not Dan Capless.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that all of you wonderful listeners are smart

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<v Speaker 2>enough to realize it the immediate moment that I opened

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<v Speaker 2>my mouth. No, I am Deborah Flora is so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be sitting in this chier again. So enjoyed our

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<v Speaker 2>time together on Tuesday. And also I'll be here with

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan Schuling, our very own Ryan Shuling every Friday at

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<v Speaker 2>two pm. Looking forward to that tomorrow as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>want to jump right into this because we've got some

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<v Speaker 2>great guests coming up after the break. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>John Prepregatory joining us. He was the former ice director

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<v Speaker 2>over Wyoming and Colorado, former CD six candidate. He and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually went down to the border with a few

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<v Speaker 2>others when I was with a different radio station last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we've had a lot of great conversations about that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at five o'clock, Jennifer say is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be joining me. She's the former just top notch gymnast

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<v Speaker 2>who also started xx x Y as a clothing company

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<v Speaker 2>to protect women in girls' sports and safe spaces. I

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<v Speaker 2>do have one of those baseball caps. Love it, work

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<v Speaker 2>out with it all the time. It's very fun. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, let's just jump right into the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to preface this part of it that

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much everything I've done has been for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Love of country, love of my children.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a mom to say the least, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I hear stories like this, they both come together. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I've been involved in educational freedom parental rights running

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<v Speaker 2>for office. I'm traveling around currently doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>national policy work in the area of school choice and

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<v Speaker 2>parental rights.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I share this story.

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<v Speaker 2>With you, the mom and me comes out even more

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<v Speaker 2>than the policy expert. Because the behavior of this particular

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<v Speaker 2>witness when he was in front of the House Oversight

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<v Speaker 2>Committee about why he should receive an A I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you would say grade is very reminiscent of how I

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<v Speaker 2>had to deal with my own children. How to set

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<v Speaker 2>the stage, this clip you're about to here is Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>Representative Rich McCormick. He is asking the current Postmaster General,

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis de Joy. I think that's a funny name, because

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<v Speaker 2>this clip actually brings me a lot of joy because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just darn funny. But here's what happened when Representative

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<v Speaker 2>McCormick said to the current Postmaster General, and keep us

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, by the way, I think we all know

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<v Speaker 2>that everything now is compared to the post Office and

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<v Speaker 2>the Postal Service as being the bottom level of customer

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<v Speaker 2>service and efficiency. But this is what Rich McCormick said

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<v Speaker 2>to him and Lewis de Joy's response when he was

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<v Speaker 2>asked to rate himself and he gave himself an A rating.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Ryan for playing that clip number five.

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<v Speaker 4>You, sir, do not get.

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<v Speaker 5>An A grade.

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<v Speaker 4>You cannot give yourself that grade. I just think you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't create your on paper, sir. I've been to

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<v Speaker 4>medical school. I bet I got my MBA.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>You were greater by the United States people and they

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<v Speaker 4>don't use your service anymore. You bankrupt. You bankrupt this

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<v Speaker 4>through your reputations. Only through your reputations, you are responsible

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<v Speaker 4>for the fall of the Postal Service.

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<v Speaker 5>And the lack of accountability is responsible.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's kind I'm trying to fix.

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<v Speaker 3>I am trying to fix.

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<v Speaker 5>On your service.

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<v Speaker 4>With all my watch the same stuff, with all the AI,

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<v Speaker 4>with all the computer systems, you're worse than if I

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<v Speaker 4>took yourself and picked up the mail and delivered it

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<v Speaker 4>two miles down the road. That's you.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope you got that on camera.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the response that the postmaster just gave Congress

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<v Speaker 4>when he doesn't like what he hears, literally covered his

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<v Speaker 4>ears and gave himself the grade of A And with that, sir,

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<v Speaker 4>I rest good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure which part of that to address first. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I do wish you could see this. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it, make sure you go and you actually watch

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<v Speaker 2>the visual the visual of this interchange. So, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the person that is over our entire postal service.

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<v Speaker 2>And first of all, let's just set the stage. Since

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis de Joy took over as a Postmaster General in

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<v Speaker 2>controversy about it because he actually came from the private

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<v Speaker 2>so there was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Conflict of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people thought he was the first person to take

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<v Speaker 2>that role since nineteen ninety two without any previous experience

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<v Speaker 2>in the USPS.

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<v Speaker 3>And what did he do.

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<v Speaker 2>He continued to decline the USPS volume of service, slowed down,

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<v Speaker 2>the turnaround he limited over time. He banned additional trips

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver mail that is not exactly great customer service.

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<v Speaker 2>He decommissioned hundreds of high speed mail sorting machines.

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<v Speaker 3>Have no idea why he would do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it actually increased a concern about mail and ballots

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<v Speaker 2>getting to where they needed to be in time. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what is interesting about this is not only if you

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<v Speaker 2>hear his responses when being called on the carpet. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, I love the comment you do not get

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<v Speaker 2>to grade yourself. That was the teacher comment to the

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<v Speaker 2>students sitting there deflecting.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the current Postmaster General said, I just did That

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<v Speaker 3>was his response. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>That was another response, you blamed someone else in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>namely Congress. Then he said some derogatory thing like you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not kidding you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think every mother has heard those kind of deflections.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when he simply put his hands over his ears,

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<v Speaker 2>The visual.

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<v Speaker 3>Is absolutely studing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know whether to laugh or cry, because, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, this is someone that is in a very

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<v Speaker 2>high position in the government. And when you think about

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<v Speaker 2>how important our postal service is now so much of

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<v Speaker 2>it has gone private, to see that kind of childish

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<v Speaker 2>behavior is amazing. The only thing that was missing was

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<v Speaker 2>him putting his hands over his ears and then saying, Nana, Nana,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hear you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's basically what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, I think that you know, we need

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<v Speaker 2>more moms to rise up and just put a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people in time out. He would have been in

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<v Speaker 2>time out had I been sitting in that seat. So

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<v Speaker 2>there you go, another episode that builds the American's confidence

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<v Speaker 2>and those who are appointed to government.

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<v Speaker 3>We just want people that are good at what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's another situation that is undermining people's confidence in

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<v Speaker 2>the current government to say the least. And many of

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<v Speaker 2>us have been hearing about these dozens of mysterious drones

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<v Speaker 2>over New Jersey and New York.

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<v Speaker 3>They're basically the two states that they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Over three thousand reports suspiciously near by the way the

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<v Speaker 2>Picatinny Arsenal Military base, the Trump National Golf Club in

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<v Speaker 2>the area, the Verrizanto Brisno And why is this important?

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<v Speaker 2>It connects Brooklyn's US Army Garrison, Fort Hamilton and Staten Island,

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<v Speaker 2>US Coast Guard station in New York, the largest of

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<v Speaker 2>its kind on the East Coast. Now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about you, but that seems like some sites that people

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<v Speaker 2>would want to look at if they were wishing us ill.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the incompetence part again. While we are hearing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more from New Jersey senators and representatives who

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to get to the bottom of this, here's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're hearing from the FBI. The FBI said these

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<v Speaker 2>drones could range from quote sophisticated state actors and adversaries

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<v Speaker 2>that want to hurt us to quote just a nuisance

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<v Speaker 2>drone that could cause harm. But they don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>answer yet. How does this happen in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America? I mean, really, it is time that we

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<v Speaker 2>demand from our government. I think that's why there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a changeover. Actually, they're doing their job. When

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it. What is government's job in a

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional republic? It is two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Protect the constitutional.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights of its citizens, and protect their security. That's it

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<v Speaker 2>failing miserably. By the way, the Pentagon gave us this

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<v Speaker 2>little gem. It said, definitively it is not from a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign actor. However, they cannot tell us what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how they can tell us it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitively not from a foreign entity when they can't even

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<v Speaker 2>tell us what it actually is. New Jersey Congressman Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew has stated that confidential sources that have talked to

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<v Speaker 2>him have talked about an Iran mothership that while the

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<v Speaker 2>Pentagon is denying that it is actually off of our mainland,

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<v Speaker 2>all that is being said it is no longer in

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<v Speaker 2>its own port. I don't know about you, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you're having flashes of all kinds of disaster, movies of

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<v Speaker 2>a mother ship and three thousand sightings of drones, well

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<v Speaker 2>you are not alone. I'm going to head to the

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<v Speaker 2>break early because when we come back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have John Fabrigatory joining me. He is the former director

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<v Speaker 2>of ICE covering Colorado as well as Yoming. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about safety and security because he also served

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<v Speaker 2>in the Air Force in a security role as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we come back, we're going to find out

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<v Speaker 2>how much confidence that John has perhaps in those statements

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<v Speaker 2>of it's not this, but we have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Time to get better from our government. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere when we come back of John Fabricatory. This

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<v Speaker 2>is Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. I am Deborah

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<v Speaker 2>Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis, and we have been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about things that make you go pause and lose

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of confidence in our current safety and security.

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<v Speaker 2>And I cannot think of anyone I would rather have

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<v Speaker 2>joined me to talk about these topics than a good friend,

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<v Speaker 2>John Fabricatory.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of you may know him.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a retired field office director for the Denver

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<v Speaker 2>Office of Ice. He oversaw areas including Colorado and Wyoming,

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<v Speaker 2>covering nearly two hundred thousand square miles and more than

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred federal employees. I did feel safer when he

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<v Speaker 2>was in that position, to say the least. He was

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<v Speaker 2>also the Republican nominee for Congressional District six against Jason Crowe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, John, thank you so much for joining me

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you for always being willing to serve our country.

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<v Speaker 3>I so appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me on. It's just been a

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<v Speaker 6>little while since you and I have been together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had a lot of experience with that when

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<v Speaker 2>we were down at the border in El Paso in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three and many times since then. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>good to do this again, and once again, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for running. I just want to say that anyone who

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<v Speaker 6>It was very unnecessary and it really it shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>No, it has been.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, we've been dealing with the situation and you and

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<v Speaker 2>of years that since twenty nineteen we're basically a sanctuary

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<v Speaker 2>state where there's already prohibition between this coordination between federal

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<v Speaker 2>changes that are coming. You know, when we were down

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<v Speaker 2>there the border together, you introduced us to so many

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<v Speaker 2>great people. We heard that you know, a huge portion

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<v Speaker 2>Stans Afghanistan to Jikistan, Uzbekistan, et cetera, Russia and China.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>About Tom homan As being named by Donald Trump to

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<v Speaker 2>be the incoming new borders are obviously he has a

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<v Speaker 6>Tom is absolutely awesome. I have the opportunity to work

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<v Speaker 6>from many times. You know, with ICE is a cops cop.

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<v Speaker 6>He says exactly what he means, which is awesome when

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<v Speaker 6>forcing the law. He's just going to take the laws

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<v Speaker 6>that we have and say, hey, guys and girls, go

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<v Speaker 6>out there and actually enforce this. Yes, it's what Trump

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<v Speaker 6>just you know, they just rallied against them and they

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<v Speaker 6>sued him hundreds of times. You know, But this time around,

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<v Speaker 6>I think prisident Trump is way more prepared for it

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Campus. My guest is

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<v Speaker 2>John fabrigatory.

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<v Speaker 3>John.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was talking in the opening of the

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<v Speaker 2>what they are, what they're not, all of these sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of things. I love that Tom Homan coming in is

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<v Speaker 2>oversee maritime and aviation security. How refreshing is that after

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<v Speaker 2>a Chinese balloon just traped its way across our missile sites.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think you served in.

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<v Speaker 2>The Air Force as a security police and security forces member.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me your thoughts about this whole drone siding and

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<v Speaker 2>the lack of intel that is out there seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be out there about what's really going.

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<v Speaker 6>On, And that is the key point, the last part

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<v Speaker 6>that you just said, the lack of that's what really

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<v Speaker 6>worries me. So, you know, the last few days, I've

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<v Speaker 6>been on the phone with a lot of buddies who

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<v Speaker 6>in and they are even like, we don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, And the fact that.

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<v Speaker 6>We don't shows how far behind we are with our

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<v Speaker 6>security methods as technology advances. Now, some of these drones

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<v Speaker 6>that they're spotting seem to be pretty advanced drones. It

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<v Speaker 6>does seem like they're your backyard type drones that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>just your basic persons flying out there. So it kind

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<v Speaker 6>of worries me that our security apertures not to the

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<v Speaker 6>safe for the potential damage that these drones can bring

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<v Speaker 6>in because remember Dubbra, these drones could be packed with explosives, right,

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<v Speaker 6>things like that. I mean, we've seen it over in

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<v Speaker 6>Ukraine how drones are being used in warfare right now,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, it's something that we should be highly

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<v Speaker 6>concerned about. And it worries me that there's really no

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<v Speaker 6>effort or or even intel coming in to let the

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<v Speaker 6>American people know that we're safe from this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I mean it feels like we're going backwards. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you think about under the Reagan administration, we helped Israel

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<v Speaker 2>build their iron dome technology, and we can't even figure

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<v Speaker 2>out what some drones are. Unfortunately, we have a break

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<v Speaker 2>coming up, a heartbreak at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 3>But I want to ask you this.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of historyonics about what deportation will look like,

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<v Speaker 2>people saying, oh, I'll stand in front of the takes

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<v Speaker 2>like Tianneman Square, and you know, federal law enforcement will

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<v Speaker 2>be firing into civilians, which is so irresponsible to say, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us what you think in the last couple of

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<v Speaker 6>Initially, it's going to be going after criminal aliens. That's

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<v Speaker 6>where they're going to go after people who are you know,

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<v Speaker 6>on the radar of law enforcement who are currently in

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<v Speaker 6>many of the jails that we have right now. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's going to be the initial drive. And then secondary

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<v Speaker 6>to that are going to be people who have already

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<v Speaker 6>seen an immigration judge and are refusing to leave the

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<v Speaker 6>and they're still refusing to follow our immigration laws. Those

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<v Speaker 6>are who are going to go after initially, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>people saying that they're going to do this and that

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<v Speaker 6>it's just immature and it's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it seems very irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the last things I want to say is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thank you again for your service, John, and

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that we see you a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>More helping in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, why don't you just give a last view

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<v Speaker 2>for folks of what we heard of who's actually coming

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<v Speaker 2>over the border, so we can just always position this

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we know we need to be concerned because it's

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<v Speaker 6>people from all over the world that are coming across

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<v Speaker 6>is we're seeing, you know, people from China, people like

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<v Speaker 6>you said, from the stands, there are criminal aliens coming

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<v Speaker 6>across the border. Gang members. That's who was allowed in

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<v Speaker 6>these last four years. That's who Tom Holman is going

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<v Speaker 6>to focus in on, and that's how we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>I so appreciate Thank you so much, John, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think everybody's before that that's not even partisan, but at

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<v Speaker 2>least there's going to be a real borders are. It

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<v Speaker 2>kind of makes me laugh that Kamala Harris was the

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<v Speaker 3>Happened when she was when she was in that position.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, John, I appreciate your joining the show and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for your continued service.

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<v Speaker 3>To Colorades into our country.

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<v Speaker 6>Happy Holidays, Deborah.

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<v Speaker 3>You too, Merry Christmas to you. Well, don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back where you continue this conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>how do we secure our country.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be right back on.

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<v Speaker 2>Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to the Dan capless Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Dankaplis Show. I'm Deborah Flora sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in for Dan today and so enjoying the conversations we

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<v Speaker 2>are having. We just had John Fabricatory join us. He's

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<v Speaker 2>Wyoming and Colorado, ran for CD six, served in the

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force, someone who knows security, and we had a

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<v Speaker 2>great conversation. By the way, if you've missed any of

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<v Speaker 2>this or the great show that we had on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>where a Dallas Jenkins, the creator of The Chosen and

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<v Speaker 2>the director of the current Christmas movie that is in theaters,

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<v Speaker 2>you get everywhere the best Christmas pageant ever. You can

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<v Speaker 2>see those where they are posted for podcasts. But wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to continue this conversation because John shared and confirmed what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was the biggest and most concerning thing about

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<v Speaker 2>this headline going on the drones. Nearly three thousand have

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<v Speaker 2>been cited, or three thousand sightings of them, shall we

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<v Speaker 2>say over New Jersey and New York. Now, let's we

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's just an odd place to have them.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's remember that they are suspiciously near according to sources

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<v Speaker 2>Picatinny Arsenal Military Base and Arsenal Military Base, Trump National

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<v Speaker 2>Golf Club in the area. We know there's already been

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<v Speaker 2>threats against the President elect and former present ccident against him.

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<v Speaker 3>The Verrizono Bridge. Now, why is that important?

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<v Speaker 2>Because in New York it connects Brooklyn's US Army Garrison,

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We're being told all these things that these drones are not,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not being told anything that they are. Case

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<v Speaker 2>in point, here is a clip from John Kirby. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a White House National Security Communications advisor, and let's hear

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<v Speaker 2>that clip, clip number twenty four, that said, we.

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<v Speaker 7>Certainly take seriously the threat that can be posed by

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<v Speaker 7>Even though they have uncovered no malicious activity or intent

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<v Speaker 7>the reported sightings there do, however, highlight a gap in authority,

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<v Speaker 7>and so we urge Congress to pass important legislation that

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<v Speaker 7>threats to airports or other critical infrastructure, and so that

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<v Speaker 7>state and local authorities are provided all the tools that

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that sounds like some good old fashioned passing

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<v Speaker 2>of the buck, because let's just hear who he said

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<v Speaker 2>should be a responsible for this local law enforcement, as though,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, our wonderful lawforcement, our police officers and

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<v Speaker 3>Then the next one was Congress, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He did say, oh, we do take it very seriously,

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<v Speaker 2>but the reality is this, really the American people have

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<v Speaker 2>no confidence because this is the same exact administration. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>recall this, shall we two years ago Chinese balloon the

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<v Speaker 2>size of three school buses let's just refresh your memory.

428
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<v Speaker 2>It was the size of three school buses, hovered about

429
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<v Speaker 2>sixty thousand feet in the air, drifting across the continental US.

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<v Speaker 2>From reports, it started in Alaska, went all the way

431
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<v Speaker 2>across down through Montana, and they didn't even bother to

432
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<v Speaker 2>shoot it down until it was off of our coast. Now,

433
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<v Speaker 2>that happened for seven days, passing over sensitive security areas

434
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<v Speaker 2>including Maelstrom Air Force Base and Great Falls, Montana, which

435
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<v Speaker 2>was a home to stockpiles of missile and nuclear defense infrastructure.

436
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<v Speaker 2>What happened at the time that this was, you know,

437
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<v Speaker 2>was going on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same Biden White House.

439
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<v Speaker 2>And this is where I have to give Kirby the

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<v Speaker 2>Bless your Heart Award of the Day, because bless your

441
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<v Speaker 2>heart that you have to keep covering for this kind

442
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<v Speaker 2>of ineptitude of security in this current administration. But at

443
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<v Speaker 2>that time Biden claimed it was quote not a major

444
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<v Speaker 2>security breach. What did we find out after it was

445
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<v Speaker 2>shot down? It was communicating with China through an American

446
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<v Speaker 2>Internet provider equipped with thousands of pounds of equipment, including

447
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<v Speaker 2>a massive surveillance payload. Well, yes, that did not turn

448
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<v Speaker 2>out to be nothing to worry about. So as we're

449
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<v Speaker 2>hearing this right now, they can't tell us what it is.

450
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<v Speaker 2>And John Fabricatory confirmed my suspicion that that's probably the

451
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<v Speaker 2>biggest issue right now. And now they're saying that this

452
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<v Speaker 2>is really nothing to worry about. You know, it's time

453
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<v Speaker 2>that we absolutely demand greater accountability and protection from our government.

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<v Speaker 2>I keep returning to this, what is the role of government.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not to dictate every part of our lives

456
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<v Speaker 2>or our constitutional representative republic is to protect our individual

457
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<v Speaker 2>liberties and our safety and security. Let's say that under

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<v Speaker 2>this administration that has been an abject failure. I was

459
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<v Speaker 2>very encouraged by the way John Fabrigatory also shared he

460
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<v Speaker 2>knows Tom Homan, who is going to be the incoming

461
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<v Speaker 2>borders are. Let's remember by the way he takes that

462
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<v Speaker 2>mantle from Kamala Harris, which.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Is unfortunately a low bar. He will far surpass that.

464
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<v Speaker 2>And I love the fact that he will actually be

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<v Speaker 2>over not just the southern border, not just the northern border,

466
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<v Speaker 2>but also maritime and aviation security. I have a feeling

467
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<v Speaker 2>that starting January twentieth, there'll be a lot more information

468
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<v Speaker 2>and a lot more action about anything that just happens

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<v Speaker 2>to be floating over our sovereign nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly hope so.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, switching gears by the way, speaking of borders ours Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>I was sharing that the Time magazine was about to

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<v Speaker 2>announce their person of the year. We went through on

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday who they were looking at. One of them was

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris, the outgoing borders are who did not even

476
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<v Speaker 2>go down to the border for years, and in fact

477
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<v Speaker 2>actually went to Guatemala first.

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the biggest, oh biggest things that.

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<v Speaker 3>Irked me when we were down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember talking to a border agent and these are

482
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<v Speaker 2>stoic guys that deal with constant threats. They're dealing with

483
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 2>the people they call the stands Afghanistan to Jikistan, Whuzbekistan, Russia, China,

484
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<v Speaker 2>Venezuelan gangs coming over. So to see this man break

485
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<v Speaker 2>down in tears, and why did he under Kamala Harris

486
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<v Speaker 2>as the quote unquote borders are. They so rushed through

487
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<v Speaker 2>the processing because they did not want there to be

488
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<v Speaker 2>any children down there where it could be a bad

489
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<v Speaker 2>photo op where it could look like maybe they were

490
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<v Speaker 2>holding children, you know, the way that they falsely accused

491
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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration of having children in cages. That's not

492
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<v Speaker 2>what it was. I saw those places firsthand, their chain

493
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<v Speaker 2>link fences just separating areas, but nobody was chained up

494
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<v Speaker 2>or put in, you know, some kind of a cage.

495
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<v Speaker 2>But what happened under the Biden administration, under Kamala Harris, well,

496
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<v Speaker 2>according to this border security agent, and it is the

497
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<v Speaker 2>reason why quietly Susan Rice retired because a report was

498
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<v Speaker 2>going to come out that tens of thousands of children

499
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<v Speaker 2>are now lost somewhere in America.

500
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<v Speaker 3>And this border patrol agent told me that they were.

501
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<v Speaker 2>So rushed by the Trump administration to process people that

502
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<v Speaker 2>they actually would just hand these children off to whoever

503
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<v Speaker 2>would show off show up to take them, no verification

504
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<v Speaker 2>process at all. So I'm happy to announce that that

505
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<v Speaker 2>very same former borders are Kamala Harris was not chosen

506
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<v Speaker 2>as the Time magazine Person of the Year because, as

507
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<v Speaker 2>we talked about, her claims to fame would have been

508
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<v Speaker 2>having a one hundred and seven day presidential campaign where

509
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<v Speaker 2>she did not receive a single vote to be the

510
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<v Speaker 2>Democrat nominee, having run a one point five billion dollar

511
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<v Speaker 2>spending account just in those one hundred and seven days

512
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<v Speaker 2>and still being twenty million dollars in debt. Nope, they

513
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<v Speaker 2>did not choose her. Well, you may have already seen.

514
00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:20.079
<v Speaker 2>The other people they were considering was Joe Rogan, Kate Middleton,

515
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>who certainly our prayers go out to Kate Middleton, but

516
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.160
<v Speaker 2>would not have been my choice. Elon Musk would have

517
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.319
<v Speaker 2>been one of my choices. Benjamin Nett and Yahoo, Claudius Scheinbaum,

518
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:33.759
<v Speaker 2>the first woman president of Mexico, Donald Trump, and Mark Zuckerberg,

519
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and the person they named is actually Donald Trump. Nice

520
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 2>to see when they do something the right way. But

521
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<v Speaker 2>one of the first leaks of the magazine cover had

522
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<v Speaker 2>this state man underneath it, President of the Divided States

523
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<v Speaker 2>of America. You know what, It's time for the mainstream

524
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>media to pull back because they are part of what

525
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>is dividing us. When you see CNN, MSNBC and by

526
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<v Speaker 2>the way, the N in both of those stands for nonsense.

527
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<v Speaker 2>When you have pundits on those shows saying that we're

528
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<v Speaker 2>going to see American US military or federal officials shooting

529
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<v Speaker 2>into crowds of civilians, saying that you should cut off

530
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<v Speaker 2>your relatives if they voted for Donald Trump. We know

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<v Speaker 2>where the division comes from, and I believe that we

532
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 2>may have an opportunity now to begin to be the United.

533
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<v Speaker 3>States of America once again. Well, don't go anywhere. We're

534
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<v Speaker 3>heading to a break.

535
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<v Speaker 2>I am Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Cappas and Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, here's your question five seven seven three

537
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<v Speaker 2>nine text into the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you think are behind the mystery drones? Don't

539
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<v Speaker 3>go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora sitting in for Dan Caplis.

540
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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dankapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. I'm Deborah Flora

542
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<v Speaker 2>sitting in for Dan Kaplas. Love that song, Stand in

543
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>the place where you live, Stand in the place where

544
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<v Speaker 2>you work.

545
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<v Speaker 3>That is a perfect setup for the.

546
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<v Speaker 2>Guests we're going to have at the top of the

547
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<v Speaker 2>hour after the break. That is going to be Jennifer Say,

548
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>who is someone who has stood up against so many

549
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 2>injustices in our society, and she definitely has a message

550
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<v Speaker 2>to encourage each and every one of us to do that.

551
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Jennifer and I recently stood together in August.

552
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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the co hosts. I guess kind

553
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<v Speaker 2>of co organizers of the first ever March for Kids

554
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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, d C. We had people like Tulca Gabbard,

555
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<v Speaker 2>Glenn Beck, Jennifer Say, and others were we stood together

556
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<v Speaker 2>to really basically advocate for this radical idea, which is

557
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<v Speaker 2>parents have the right to be the ultimate authority in

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<v Speaker 2>their children's upbringing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, I know crazy.

560
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<v Speaker 2>You would think it's crazy from all the things that

561
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<v Speaker 2>are happening in our culture right now. I've often said

562
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<v Speaker 2>that if our founding fathers ever thought that they would

563
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<v Speaker 2>get to the place where that is even being questioned

564
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<v Speaker 2>in the slightest they would have put parental rights in

565
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<v Speaker 2>the Bill of Rights. But it was unthinkable to them

566
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<v Speaker 2>that that would happen. In fact, when you look over

567
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<v Speaker 2>the history of Western civilization, the family is the building block.

568
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<v Speaker 3>It is the building block.

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<v Speaker 2>Of our civilization, which is perhaps why it is being

570
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<v Speaker 2>so attacked right now. It's an area that I've been

571
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<v Speaker 2>involved with a lot. My husband and I have a

572
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<v Speaker 2>media company. We made the documentary called Whose Children Are They?

573
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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why we did that is to show

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<v Speaker 2>every single area where this is being undermined. Now, what

575
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<v Speaker 2>does this have to do with Jennifer She is standing

576
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<v Speaker 2>up against some of the craziness that is going on

577
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<v Speaker 2>and protecting girls and women's sports and safe spaces. How

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<v Speaker 2>does this intertwine with all that, Well, let's just say this.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance, in my home school district where I went,

580
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<v Speaker 2>Sherry Creed School District, there is evidence that they have

581
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<v Speaker 2>been socially transitioning children without their parents' knowledge or consent.

582
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<v Speaker 2>When you have these situations going on where Title nine

583
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<v Speaker 2>is being undermined, that is another part of this radical movement.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, let's just talk a little bit about what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on. As we all know.

586
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<v Speaker 2>A little over a week ago, the US Supreme Court

587
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<v Speaker 2>heard the Tennessee case United States Versus Scrimmetti. Now, what

588
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<v Speaker 2>is this In Tennessee, there's a law prohibiting transgender medical

589
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>procedures for miners. And what's interesting about it, it's just

590
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<v Speaker 2>one of twenty five US states, Tennessee is that has

591
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<v Speaker 2>banned gender transitions for transgender miners.

592
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:37.799
<v Speaker 3>More than fifteen have enacted.

593
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<v Speaker 2>Shield laws that protect against such procedures.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's what's interesting.

595
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<v Speaker 2>Many people think, oh, you know, there's a puritanical nature

596
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<v Speaker 2>of America. Let's just put this a little bit in context,

597
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>shall we. The United Kingdom socialist country that has led

598
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<v Speaker 2>the way on some of these medical procedures, just voted

599
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<v Speaker 2>to detect miners from puberty blockers and it will not

600
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<v Speaker 2>allow them for children under the age of eighteen with

601
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>gender dysphoria. Now, their gender dysporia is a real thing,

602
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:17.079
<v Speaker 2>and any child that has it deserves support, deserves to

603
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of help through that process, but not

604
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<v Speaker 2>necessarily irreversible medical procedures.

605
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<v Speaker 3>Well, the UK just voted against it. And why did

606
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<v Speaker 3>they do that.

607
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<v Speaker 2>Here is what they said, following official advice from medical experts.

608
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<v Speaker 2>And let's be clear, because the UK is a nationalized

609
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<v Speaker 2>socialist medicine situation, they have incredible records on this, and

610
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<v Speaker 2>they are reversing course because here's what they said. Quote,

611
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<v Speaker 2>there's currently an unacceptable safety risk and the continued prescription

612
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<v Speaker 2>of puberty blockers to children. Now, let's contrast this, shall

613
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<v Speaker 2>we with our own Supreme Court. Now, first of all,

614
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<v Speaker 2>Katanji Brown Jackson should recuse herself from this case because

615
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<v Speaker 2>when she was confirmed, she literally said she is not

616
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<v Speaker 2>able to define what a woman is because she's not

617
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<v Speaker 2>a biologist. Well, if you can't define a woman because

618
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<v Speaker 2>she's not a biologist, she should not be weighing in

619
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<v Speaker 2>on the veracity of using this irreversible medical procedures frequently

620
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<v Speaker 2>irreversible on children. And then let's let's also contrast that

621
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<v Speaker 2>with sodomayor who compared compared this procedure, these chemicals that

622
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<v Speaker 2>are given surgeries, et cetera, to aspirin, saying that there

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<v Speaker 2>is always a risk with any medical procedure. Well, last

624
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<v Speaker 2>thing I heard, aspirin is not irreversible. In fact, that's

625
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<v Speaker 2>why you need to take a couple every so often

626
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<v Speaker 2>if you have a headache.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's also remember, by the way, we are more

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<v Speaker 2>radical than Europe in many fronts, even when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to abortion. Let's say, wherever you are on that issue,

631
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<v Speaker 2>let's just put this in context. By the way, most

632
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<v Speaker 2>European countries have waiting periods before an abortion, and it

633
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<v Speaker 2>is in most of them not legal after the first trimester.

634
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<v Speaker 2>Here in Colorado up to the moment of birth for

635
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<v Speaker 2>any reason at all time, to bring some common sense

636
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<v Speaker 2>back to our state and back to our country. And

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of a last lack of common sense and the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court, when I've led a couple of rallies on

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court steps when certain cases were being argued.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those was the Lorie Smith case, once again

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<v Speaker 2>right here in Colorado, and that was the case where

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<v Speaker 2>rightfully the Supreme Court determined they cannot force someone to

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<v Speaker 2>create anything, or create a message, or speak against their

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<v Speaker 2>dearly held beliefs. I got to tell you when I

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<v Speaker 2>led that rally, it was one of the most frightening

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<v Speaker 2>things I've actually been a.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of because we had to have security as we were.

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<v Speaker 2>Being bum rushed by those who were standing up and

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<v Speaker 2>was predominantly for those who were pushing an ex extream

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<v Speaker 2>social agenda. So you know, when we come back, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have Jennifer say join us. She has been fearless

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<v Speaker 2>and courageous to speak up and say biology is not bigotrat.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna learn from her how we can have that

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<v Speaker 2>courage and make a difference. Don't go anywhere. I'm Deborah Flora,

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in for Dan Catlis
